View Full Version : R.I.P. - Zelda:TP for GC
imdaly
10-19-2006, 04:35 PM
We are gathered here today to mourn the loss of The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess for the Nintendo Gamecube, we hardly knew ye.
Joystiq has confirmed with numerous Gamestop and EB Games retailers that the Gamecube version of the newest Zelda offering has been removed from their computer system. Their websites have also been updated to reflect the change. We have yet to receive any official word from Nintendo, but all signs point to this as a done deal.
Get out the pine box and some nails, prepare to bury your Gamecube. It's over. The Gamecube is dead, long live the Wii.
Unless -- Nintendo announces they'll offer Zelda:TP from their online outlet (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/11/gamecube-twilight-princess-sold-online-only-in-japan/) like they will in Japan.
Source (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/19/zelda-twilight-princess-for-gamecube-is-no-more/)
Kinda sucks, but I was just going to get the Wii version anyway...
Spidey-Bat
10-19-2006, 04:51 PM
Not that I care, but I will wait until official word. I don't really trust Gamestop/EB Games for this kinda stuff.
WhatsHisFace
10-19-2006, 05:07 PM
The Gamecube only has one good game now. :(
DACrowe
10-19-2006, 05:33 PM
Lies.
I count (officials and not ports) a few more than that: The Legend of Zelda Wind Waker, Resident Evil 4, Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 2, Resident Evil remake (better version)....AND the biggest of 'em all, Super Smash Bros. Melee (in my opinion the best multi-player ever).
Sure overall, that is DWARFED in comparison to the offers on PS2 for exclusivity and to a lesser extent by Xbox, but the Gamecube had more than "just one good game." That's not mentioning ports, which I often times felt more comfortable playing on the GC than the other two systems (though I still prefer PS2 over Gamecube).
Anyway, this is sad news. I had planned (and reserved) to get the Wii version anyway, but at the pitt of my stomach I felt the controls would probably be better on the Gamecube and I could go get a Gamecube copy instead of the Wii version was iffy.
Oh well, just more incentive to have the Wii I guess then.
TheGrayGhost
10-19-2006, 07:35 PM
The Gamecube only has one good game now. :(
In any case, it's still better than Xbox or PS2 (or Xbox 360), which have 0 good games between the two (or three). Oh, see what I did there? Burn.
)....AND the biggest of 'em all, Super Smash Bros. Melee (in my opinion the best multi-player ever).
Next to Mario Kart and Pokemon, that is. But yeah, Melee is phenomenal. I feel sorry for the guys who still play Soul Calibur and Tekken.
jaydawg
10-19-2006, 07:55 PM
Thats retarded. I play both Soul Calibur and Smash.
Yeah well that's because you're fake, yo :cmad:
:rolleyes:x infinity
Panophobia
10-19-2006, 08:01 PM
They just stopped the pre-orders for it, it's still coming.
SpiderFan17
10-19-2006, 08:59 PM
At the very least, they will offer it through the Nintendo online store
War Party
10-19-2006, 10:20 PM
Who cares
Kipobe
10-20-2006, 08:01 AM
It's been debunked. Nintendo announced it'll still be released for GCN. I wish they'd do what other countries are doing, and just make it an internet/over the phone order. We don't need it clogging up our stores:cmad:
Not Jake
10-20-2006, 01:46 PM
yeah this is coming out Dec 13th for 'cube
i refuse to link, just trust me:cmad:
Zenien
10-20-2006, 05:59 PM
It's been debunked. Nintendo announced it'll still be released for GCN. I wish they'd do what other countries are doing, and just make it an internet/over the phone order. We don't need it clogging up our stores:cmad:
Clogging up the stores by giving people the chance to buy the non bull**** tacked on gimmick version you mean? Because that's exactly what the Wii version is.
Spidey-Bat
10-20-2006, 06:06 PM
The Wii isn't a gimmick :o
Glogging up the stores by giving people the chance to buy the non bull**** tacked on gimmick version you mean.
Wow :dry:
You're not your usual relaxed self, woman :confused:
WhatsHisFace
10-20-2006, 06:12 PM
Clogging up the stores by giving people the chance to buy the non bull**** tacked on gimmick version you mean? Because that's exactly what the Wii version is.
I suddenly don't hate you anymore. You saw something my way for once. :huh: :huh: :huh:
XwolverineX
10-20-2006, 06:30 PM
Clogging up the stores by giving people the chance to buy the non bull**** tacked on gimmick version you mean? Because that's exactly what the Wii version is.
It's okay, let it out, the Wii is better then PS3. :csad: It's okay to cry. :csad:
Zenien
10-20-2006, 08:00 PM
I suddenly don't hate you anymore. You saw something my way for once. :huh: :huh: :huh:
Weird, this is only suppose to happen like once every 100 years. :huh:
TheGrayGhost
10-20-2006, 08:52 PM
Clogging up the stores by giving people the chance to buy the non bull**** tacked on gimmick version you mean? Because that's exactly what the Wii version is.
Miyamoto himself said that he can't go back to playing the GC version because the Wii version is that much better. Not saying that he's right, but I think he is sincere. Matt from IGN also reported the same. At the very least, give it a chance.
DACrowe
10-20-2006, 10:05 PM
The Wii IS NOT A GIMMECK. Hell, the PS3 liked the idea so much, they STOLE it while in development stage. If you wnat the deintion of TACKED ON look no further than the "tilt feature" of the horribly archaic (as in iti s the same controller three generations in a row, still relying on the D-Pad to take emphasis over the analog stick, my only gripe about the superior PS2 of this last generation) "Six-axis" controller.
As for the game being ported to Wii. I dunno. While part of me doesn't like it and is a bit worried, Nintendo has been working on this version for over a year and when the creator says it is superior (when he surely doesn't have to as he pretty much is what makes Nitnendo run anymore, at least until the Wii makes up for the Gamecube) I'll put some faith in it.
At the very least give it a chance though.
jaydawg
10-20-2006, 11:31 PM
It's okay, let it out, the Wii is better then PS3. :csad: It's okay to cry. :csad:
As someone who's played PS3.... thats very true.
She's only calling the Wii a gimmick because Sony is scared ****less of the 360 and Wii.
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/19/zelda-twilight-princess-for-gamecube-is-no-more/
It is coming to U.S. retailers on December 13th for Gamecube.
Nintendo's reps confirmed it.
I was pretty much decided to get the Wii version, but I guess I'll wai for some kind of "Gametrailers" compare, or something.
It sucks that the GC version doesn't have Widescreen support :(
XwolverineX
10-21-2006, 10:58 AM
As someone who's played PS3.... thats very true.
How did you play it? :huh:
Rowen
10-21-2006, 12:25 PM
well thats good to hear that its coming to the gamecube in december, cause i much rathe play it on the gamecube with a controller in my hand, than playing it on on the wii consule, & half to fling my arm all over the place to just hit a bad guy,
i rather stick the orgianl format of playing games, tv=gameconsule= conculse controller.
I.......well........ummmmmm....................... ....what? :confused:
XwolverineX
10-21-2006, 12:32 PM
well thats good to hear that its coming to the gamecube in december, cause i much rathe play it on the gamecube with a controller in my hand, than playing it on on the wii consule, & half to fling my arm all over the place to just hit a bad guy,
i rather stick the orgianl format of playing games, tv=gameconsule= conculse controller.
I can't read that. Please, english.
XwolverineX
10-21-2006, 12:33 PM
I.......well........ummmmmm....................... ....what? :confused:
Ermugh, you got that post in just before mine. :cmad:
Aiden
10-21-2006, 01:17 PM
well thats good to hear that its coming to the gamecube in december, cause i much rathe play it on the gamecube with a controller in my hand, than playing it on on the wii consule, & half to fling my arm all over the place to just hit a bad guy,
i rather stick the orgianl format of playing games, tv=gameconsule= conculse controller.:dry:
jaydawg
10-21-2006, 03:45 PM
How did you play it? :huh:
Gamespot After hours. Its like a mini E3.:oldrazz:
Rowen
10-21-2006, 05:49 PM
I can't read that. Please, english.
let me elaborate it better. i rather play the zelda game with the gamcube controller, than the wii controllor, cause with the wii controllor you have to move it around everywhere, & i don't want to do that.
id rather just sit with the controllor in my lap & play the game.
You don't have to move it "everywhere" :dry:
Panophobia
10-21-2006, 08:09 PM
No, but might is help fi u speek with in English of the language.
Clearly, Rowern am want to play teh Zelda foir gamecube becaue he play in lap wit controller insted of move around everywhere cux he noo want do that.
i compleetkyl agwee. 1000%
Rowen
10-21-2006, 08:20 PM
No, but might is help fi u speek with in English of the language.
Clearly, Rowern am want to play teh Zelda foir gamecube becaue he play in lap wit controller insted of move around everywhere cux he noo want do that.
i compleetkyl agwee. 1000%
exactly!:up: , by goarge i think he's got it.:woot:
DACrowe
10-21-2006, 08:42 PM
Doesn't make sense though (the general thought process and not gramatical mistakes).
You don't have to make "big motions" everywhere. It can simply be the flick of a wrist or the turn of a hand. The gaiming console allows both. And it is more intuitive. Trust me, it won't be "stupid" but is rather the next step in gaming though.
Spidey-Bat
10-21-2006, 09:12 PM
let me elaborate it better. i rather play the zelda game with the gamcube controller, than the wii controllor, cause with the wii controllor you have to move it around everywhere, & i don't want to do that.
id rather just sit with the controllor in my lap & play the game.
You don't have to move it everywhere. A flick of the wrist is enough to move it around the screen. If you don't want to play games that way, don't buy a Wii.
Panophobia
10-21-2006, 11:08 PM
exactly!:up: , by goarge i think he's got it.:woot:
yeah i am no wut u is mean by youre first ppost
Rowen
10-22-2006, 02:50 PM
You don't have to move it everywhere. A flick of the wrist is enough to move it around the screen. If you don't want to play games that way, don't buy a Wii.
if you read my first post i wrote i said im GLAD that zelda tw princess is going to be on the GAMECUBE, since i have a gamecube already thats an added bonus for me. cause i don't have to pay hundreds of dollors for a new sytem. i wasn't palnning on playing the wii version of it anyway.
don't skim through peoples post, if you do you, than you miss the meaning.witch you clearly have already.:down
Spidey-Bat
10-22-2006, 02:55 PM
if you read my first post i wrote i said im GLAD that zelda tw princess is going to be on the GAMECUBE, since i have a gamecube already thats an added bonus for me. cause i don't have to pay hundreds of dollors for a new sytem. i wasn't palnning on playing the wii version of it anyway.
don't skim through peoples post, if you do you, than you miss the meaning.witch you clearly have already.:down
Read what I replied to.
let me elaborate it better. i rather play the zelda game with the gamcube controller, than the wii controllor, cause with the wii controllor you have to move it around everywhere, & i don't want to do that.
id rather just sit with the controllor in my lap & play the game.
It seems you were the one who skimmed my post.
Speedball
10-26-2006, 09:35 PM
I reserved this game almost a year and a half ago, when it was coming out in Nov. of 05. It better damn well come out on the gamecube. I don't have the money to buy a Wii.
WhatsHisFace
10-26-2006, 10:48 PM
We have a Gamecube in the room and I'm definitely getting this and RE4 when it comes to the Cube.
Kipobe
10-27-2006, 12:40 AM
........?
Brainiac 8
10-27-2006, 01:08 AM
let me elaborate it better. i rather play the zelda game with the gamcube controller, than the wii controllor, cause with the wii controllor you have to move it around everywhere, & i don't want to do that.
id rather just sit with the controllor in my lap & play the game.
The actual sword fighting with the Wii-mote is what has me stoked to play it. But...to each his own.
Speedball
10-28-2006, 05:57 PM
We have a Gamecube in the room and I'm definitely getting this and RE4 when it comes to the Cube.
Umm....Resident Evil 4 has been on the Gamecube for more than a year now...?
CantThinkOfAName
10-28-2006, 09:24 PM
We have a Gamecube in the room and I'm definitely getting this and RE4 when it comes to the Cube.
We have an Xbox in the room and we're gonna see how many of our penises we can fit into it. Then we'll tape it and send it to the police to taunt them.
Galactus
10-30-2006, 07:33 AM
New Zelda: TP details arise
Monday 30-Oct-2006 12:23 PM A hands-on preview in UK magazine Edge uncovers several new gameplay gems for the latest Zelda quest, which it deems to be "a fanboy's wet-dream".
As you all should know, the game has a light world and a Twilight realm - areas of Hyrule that have been engulfed in a dark shadow of evil. Apparently, light is returned to Twilight-covered areas of the game by "hunting down shadow insects and collecting the tears of light they've consumed, restoring one of the four great Light Spirits."
The preview discloses interesting details concerning Link's abilities in wolf form. "As a wolf, Link controls almost exactly as he does in human form; every attack has its equivalent. Dashing with the A instigates a burst of speed, and though he cannot access items, D-pad shortcuts allow him to dig and access his senses."
These senses are used to detect digging spots, shadow insects and spirits of Hyrule citizens. These spirits apparently do not engage in conversations with Link, but you can sort of listen to their mutterings, no doubt to gather essential information.
It is already known that Link transforms into a wolf when in the Twilight realm. But Edge interestingly reveals that: "Link can also re-enter the light-world in the form of a wolf. There, people fear him but he can talk to animals."
Link's relationship with animals plays a huge part in many areas of his quest. As well as the return of Link's horse, Epona, who he can summon with a horseshoe-shaped reed, he will also interact with a hawk (again summoned with a reed), which he can launch at meddling monkeys or bees' nests.
Some of the mysteries behind Midna, the strange character riding on Link's back when in wolf form, have also been answered. When teamed with Link, Midna will apparently take on a Navy-style role, offering helpful hints and tips as the player explores. She can also help out with battle, conjuring a force field around Link that can instantly destroy groups of enemies in the Twilight realm that will otherwise revive each other.
Edge also reveals the existence of "a highly unusual character called Ooccoo - a chicken homunculus with a human head - who appears in dungeons, takes residence in your inventory and allows you to warp out and return to exactly the same spot, should you need supplies."
Edge was is full of praise for Twilight Princess. Yes, we're all going to buy it anyway, but that's always encouraging. Will it be better than Ocarina of Time, though. All evidence seems to suggest it might just be
MrHateYourself
11-04-2006, 02:10 AM
How did you play it? :huh:
They ship and show these things all over LONG before release. I played with a Wii and PS3 two, around three months ago. Holiday retailers convention.
Gimmick gimmick gimmick. Neat or not, it's what it is. Just like pointless dual screens. It's a system revolved around an accessory/interface, how do you NOT call that a gimping gimmick?
Sony "ripped" motion sensitive controls? Motion sensitive controls have been around FOREVER. You could buy controllers for the PS1 that were motion sensitive-move left to "press" left, etc.
DACrowe
11-04-2006, 03:51 PM
It is quite obvious it was ripped off the Wiimote image. That is much more gimmecky.
You call it gimmecky, but if it works it will be innovation. Was the analog stick on N64 a gimmeck? Was Playstation's CD-rom based game a gimmeck? Did Sega Genesis being the first to do 16-bits instead of 8-bits a gimmeck?
Please. It's the next step in gaming and there is a reason why almost everyone who has used them calls them brilliant. Now, I don't know if it is that (I bet next generation will be MUCH more refined than the wii-mote is now) but I thinki it deserves to be called more than a gimmeck. If that is a case than the PS3 bringing in 1080p HD is nothing but a gimmeck too then.
MrHateYourself
11-04-2006, 05:04 PM
Was the analog stick on N64 a gimmeck? Was Playstation's CD-rom based game a gimmeck? Did Sega Genesis being the first to do 16-bits instead of 8-bits a gimmeck?
Jeebus. The word GIMMICK is there RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU and you STILL can't spell it right. Your post if full of idiocy before I even start to read it.
Technology updates such as memory, storage, etc are not gimmicks as it's an essentially unchanging part of gaming. But to design an entire product around a more limited interface, yes. It's a gimmick. Like the Dual Screen-two screens, totally pointless, nothing you can't do with ONE screen, but look-IT HAS TWO! TWO! Wave your remote around-it doesn't actually know what you're doing, it only senses basic movement, but isn't it almost sorta kinda not quite but we can hype you into almost thinking about virtual reality?! Who needs precise control and options!?
PS, if you're talking rips/gimmicks, analog wasn't exactly a Nintendo innovation. Hello, PC gaming AGAIN.
jaydawg
11-04-2006, 05:44 PM
Such anger. He really does hate himself.
Spidey-Bat
11-04-2006, 05:52 PM
Technology updates such as memory, storage, etc are not gimmicks as it's an essentially unchanging part of gaming. But to design an entire product around a more limited interface, yes. It's a gimmick. Like the Dual Screen-two screens, totally pointless, nothing you can't do with ONE screen, but look-IT HAS TWO! TWO! Wave your remote around-it doesn't actually know what you're doing, it only senses basic movement, but isn't it almost sorta kinda not quite but we can hype you into almost thinking about virtual reality?! Who needs precise control and options!?
A gimmick that has sold 35.88 million units and made Nintendo millions. Some pointless gimmick, huh?
PS, if you're talking rips/gimmicks, analog wasn't exactly a Nintendo innovation. Hello, PC gaming AGAIN.
1) The technology of analog sticks and the joysticks on computers are completely different.
2) PC games have done just about everything before console games have so the statement holds little weight.
MrHateYourself
11-04-2006, 08:36 PM
A gimmick that has sold 35.88 million units and made Nintendo millions. Some pointless gimmick, huh?
Yes, yes it is. Explain what you can only do with two screens that you couldn't with one? It's a slightly different beast for PC/Mac users-I can run software fullscreen on one screen (say, WoW or Unreal 2004) and run AIM, a window with a walkthrough, etc. For console gaming?
Well, I guess it does have it's uses-all those years ago, playing Mario on the tv, I always wished that I could block half of my visible area with a bar displaying how far in the level I am.....or Metroid Prime, that corner minimap is silly-I need HALF my screenspace dominated by a few blips, not some detailed map. I've also always wished that the top half and bottom half of my tv/monitor wouldn't synch up if there were an image that needed the full space.
Spidey-Bat
11-04-2006, 08:44 PM
Yes, yes it is. Explain what you can only do with two screens that you couldn't with one?
Well, I guess it does have it's uses-all those years ago, playing Mario on the tv, I always wished that I could block half of my visible area with a bar displaying how far in the level I am.....or Metroid Prime, that corner minimap is silly-I need HALF my screenspace dominated by a few blips, not some detailed map. I've also always wished that the top half and bottom half of my tv/monitor wouldn't synch up if there were an image that needed the full space.
What you can do with a touch screen that you can't do with a regular screen?
You are oversimplifying the DS. You're ignoring the fact that one screen is a touch screen and just using the whole "2 screens are useless" argument. If you've every played a DS (and I don't mean playing the demos at kiosks in stores), you'd know what they are used for. It's simple stuff, not really ground breaking, but it makes the gameplay more interactive. It's not just about pressing buttons with the DS.
MrHateYourself
11-05-2006, 02:35 AM
Yes, I have a DS.
So, if it's all about the touch, then what's the point of hyping dual screens or even designing the system around two screens? Why isn't it the Nintendo Touch, with a single very nicely sized touch screen?
DACrowe
11-05-2006, 02:37 AM
MrHateYourself (the name really does say it all?) I spelled gimmick wrong, so what? Grow the **** up. Do you understand INNOVATION? When Sony and Microsoft start using their own (probably more refined) versions of the Wiimote in 5 years or so and the industry goes in that direction, will it still be "just a gimmick?"
YOur argument is bull****. By your logic than we might as well say the analog stick was a gimmick, as was the 16 bit jump, the 3D jump (why play video games like Mario 64, when Super Mario World works just as well and I also got Final Fantasy III and Metal Gear....what does PSX offer?! :rolleyes: ), the disc based gaming (which actually comes from Sega CDs if we're getting anal), the 128 bit jump and now the HD jump....(deep breath).....
ARE ALL GIMMICKS. And don't give me this memory based bull****. If innovating it to motion control is a gimmick than changing it so you can get more quality in the details of graphics, framerates, movements, HD features etc. is a gimmick.
What we have here is a case of hypocracy in the inth degree, I guess.
Spidey-Bat
11-05-2006, 11:05 AM
Yes, I have a DS.
So, if it's all about the touch, then what's the point of hyping dual screens or even designing the system around two screens? Why isn't it the Nintendo Touch, with a single very nicely sized touch screen?
I don't believe you. If you did, you'd understand more why there are 2 screens and you wouldn't be *****ing about there being 2 screens.
They probably went with 2 screens instead of 1 touch b/c:
A) resolution on the touch screen is poor (play a GBA game and set it that it plays on the touch screen part).
B) It opens up opportunities for developers. The touch screen allows new, interactive gameplay for handhelds. The old style of the d-pad and a few buttons could not last forever.
Lackey
11-05-2006, 05:05 PM
We have an Xbox in the room and we're gonna see how many of our penises we can fit into it. Then we'll tape it and send it to the police to taunt them.
You too? dammit...and here I thought I was being so original :csad:
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