Evanscence's Open Door album

[GoldenAgeHero]

am i the only one dissapointed with this album? i expected something alot more better then the first album, this one does'nt even come close. if ben moody was the person behind the first album, might as well bring his ass back into the group.



i really really wish i had downloaded this album instead. bought the first and was hugely satisfied thus why i bought it. but this really deserved a download.

[Socrates]

I'm quite sure you're not the only one who felt disappointed with this album. Although, I have to admit, their song Snow White Queen was pretty cool.

[GoldenAgeHero]

I'm quite sure you're not the only one who felt disappointed with this album. Although, I have to admit, their song Snow White Queen was pretty cool.


yeah i liked that song. but man, this album really falls short of the first.

[JustABill]

Yeah. I'm disappointed with the album too. I've only listened to it like once or twice since buying it. I still ike the album, but it wasn't worth the wait IMO.

[Venom Drool]

i like it.. was worth the money.. 12 bucks isnt much. but i didnt expect something more..once a quarter of the album is gone.. it feels like its the same song over and over again.. like the mixing made it sound like the songs flowed together..but just way too close together..regardless..i thin kthere are a few good ones.. a couple of gems... but whatever...

[Holly Goodhead]

Amy Lee sounds like crap live.

[Venom Drool]

never seen her live so..

[Mxtt]

I can't watch the videos because. Her head. :csad:

[Venom Drool]

that makes sense


loser

[Mxtt]

Go fall in the forest, then come back and I'll tell you if a Venom Drool falls in the forest, would anyone care. :heart:

[Kmack]

A lot of these "blockbuster follow-ups" don't really live up to the hype. What did you guys think about Sam's Town?

[Venom Drool]

why are you stupid?

[Holly Goodhead]

A lot of these "blockbuster follow-ups" don't really live up to the hype. What did you guys think about Sam's Town?

Killers?

I only like Bones and When You Were Young remix

[Socrates]

A lot of these "blockbuster follow-ups" don't really live up to the hype. What did you guys think about Sam's Town?

I only liked a few songs. Specifically, Bling (Confessions of a King), and Read My Mind. I think I liked Uncle Johnny too, but I haven't heard it recently so I couldn't be sure. :huh:

[Mxtt]

why are you stupid?

Because my IQ is a negative number, dduuduURUurRr.

[Venom Drool]

right..

[Holly Goodhead]

I like the Marilyn Manson version of This Is Halloween :down

[Venom Drool]

i dont want to listen to that if youre serious :down

[Mxtt]

A lot of these "blockbuster follow-ups" don't really live up to the hype. What did you guys think about Sam's Town?

Nice drumming, but compared to Hot Fuss, whatever. I hum "For Reasons Unknow"n to myself but I don't really like the song, and "Bones" is all right. But I don't think I'd want to listen to the whole thing through another time. Maybe in a few months or years. Decades.

right..

it's k, lots of luffles. :heart:

[Venom Drool]

i hate you though so no.

[Mxtt]

i hate you though so no.

I'll still watch you when you sleep. :yay:

[Venom Drool]

no you wont

[KingOfDreams]

Amy Lee sounds like crap live.

I agree. She does. But she sounds pretty good on the albums. A bit of echo goes a long way with people's vocals. I mean, I would never call myself a vocalist but it's not like I'm tone deaf either. But when I hook my mic up to my Boss DD-6 my vocals sound much better.

[Socrates]

no you wont

Better start searching for those cameras he's probably got set-up in your room. :up: Probably your house too.

[Venom Drool]

ya but no..

[Mxtt]

Better start searching for those cameras he's probably got set-up in your room. :up: Probably your house too.

:heart::heart: For him, I go personally, **** cameras. :heart::heart:

I agree. She does. But she sounds pretty good on the albums. A bit of echo goes a long way with people's vocals. I mean, I would never call myself a vocalist but it's not like I'm tone deaf either. But when I hook my mic up to my Boss DD-6 my vocals sound much better.

Studio singing is hotter than live always, usually, there are a lot of people who sound great live and on an album but there are lots who sound *BLAH!* live. Even some who sound *BLAH!* on an album.

[Socrates]

:heart::heart: For him, I go personally, **** cameras. :heart::heart:

Do you use binoculars? And if so, what kind?

[Mxtt]

I stand over the bed. **** binoculars. Up close is the way to go.

[Socrates]

I suppose that applies to Sofa too.

Perv.

[Mxtt]

Nope. :up: Only Venom Drool. Constantly getting called loser makes me hot and bothered in a way that'd be sexy if I were a really hot chick.

[Socrates]

That's a disturbing mental picture, you know. :down

[Mxtt]

That's a disturbing mental picture, you know. :down

Yeah, very disturbing. :huh:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/LilBrother/hotandbothered.jpg

If you tried to picture me as a hot chick hot and bothered. I think that's more disturbing than anything. Well, maybe not, but it's around that level. Maybe a little lower. A little.

[Socrates]

Not as a chick, but for some reason I thought of the whole t-shirt ninja thing and that's just weird on a whole 'nother level. :dry:

[Erundur]

if ben moody was the person behind the first album, might as well bring his ass back into the group.

yup, they should of went with his direction, whatever the hell that was suppose to be.

[imdaly]

Y'know, listening to the album for the first few times, I was also pretty disappointed. I LOVE me some Evanescence, and couldn't wait to hear this album. But I was a little worried to see what the band would sound like making new songs withou Moody's help.

And like I said, the first few times hearing each song (CMWYS included), I was unfortunately disappointed. It was good...but just now WOW like "Fallen" was to me.

...but then the songs started growing on me. And now I can safely say I love this album, too. Still not as much as "Fallen", no, but I do love it. I realize now that it was the same exact thing with "Fallen": at first I only really cared for the first single. But before I knew it, I let go of the 'skip track' button and could let that CD fly through front to back over and over and over again, and I'd love every song.

So yes, at first I was disappointed by "The Open Door"...but not anymore. I love it.

My new favorite Evanescence song is most definitely "Good Enough", the last song. That song's freaking BEAUTIFUL!!

[cyclonesfury]

yeah i loved that song "good enough"... tried transcribing it and wasnt so successful so if anyones got any sheet music... can u please send it to me

[PLAS]

I was dissapointed when I heard that bring me to life song, which sounded kinda like Lacuna Park

[Dangerous]

next time buy an album by a band that does not suck and the maybe you will not be dissapointed.

May I reccomend Necrophagia- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YdLDiEPwsU

or

Mortician
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgFVy5bNbjU&mode=related&search=

two of my favourite bands.

[jaguarr]

I agree. She does. But she sounds pretty good on the albums. A bit of echo goes a long way with people's vocals. I mean, I would never call myself a vocalist but it's not like I'm tone deaf either. But when I hook my mic up to my Boss DD-6 my vocals sound much better.

It's pretty amazing what they can do to someone's voice with auto-pitch correctors and some compression, EQ and filters. I've heard the rumors that Amy Lee can't do it live, and that's a deal breaker for me. Most of Evanescence's stuff is too repetitive for my tastes. It's like they keep playing different version of the same three songs over and over again.

Want a killer rock album with female vocals? Check out Flyleaf. Now THAT girl can sing! :up:

jag

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I'm sorry the album wasn't more better, GAH.

[the_ultimate_evil]

wasnt that impressed but it was on £10 so i'm not gonna complain, withen temptation is a decent band you should check them out

[El ASESINO]

next time buy an album by a band that does not suck and the maybe you will not be dissapointed.

May I reccomend Necrophagia- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YdLDiEPwsU

or

Mortician
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgFVy5bNbjU&mode=related&search=

two of my favourite bands.

Necrophagia awsome :up:
I have the dvd with all of there videos

Mortician just plain sucks
they don't even have a drumer
They are a horrible band live

[kane9321]

Amy Lee sounds like crap live.

watch your mouth:cmad:

[Bastila]

I really like this album, lose control is a great track.

[guitarsingerguy]

I didn't buy the cd nor would I, but you do know Ben Moody is writing songs for Avril Lavigne now right? I seriously doubt he was the "powerhouse" in the band.

[guitarsingerguy]

I agree. She does. But she sounds pretty good on the albums. A bit of echo goes a long way with people's vocals. I mean, I would never call myself a vocalist but it's not like I'm tone deaf either. But when I hook my mic up to my Boss DD-6 my vocals sound much better.

You do realize you're pumping your vocals through a delay pedal designed to accept completely opposite frenquencies from what your voice produces right? In other words, it makes it sound bad. Do yourself a favor and go buy a delay pedal or vocal effects processor MADE for your voice. It will make a world of difference.

[Dangerous]

Necrophagia awsome :up:
I have the dvd with all of there videos

Mortician just plain sucks
they don't even have a drumer
They are a horrible band live

Well atleast you have the goodtaste to dig necrophagia.
That bloodfreak vid is cool, heheheh

Mortician are solid on record, sure the music is simple and dumb, but that is half the fun. They make me laugh, plus I can rock out to em.
and they have the coolest album covers ever, also live they have a real drummer. They are the heavyiest band on the planet and no one can ***** w/ em.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

OMFG, KOD!!!
You didn't put your voice through a BOSS DD-SIX?!?!?!
What were you THINKING?!?
Oh Mother of GAwd WHYYYyy?!?!?

[guitarsingerguy]

OMFG, KOD!!!
You didn't put your voice through a BOSS DD-SIX?!?!?!
What were you THINKING?!?
Oh Mother of GAwd WHYYYyy?!?!?

See Wilhelm knows. I swear it feels like everytime I'm on here I have to give a gear lesson.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

and yet if you made a useful GSG's Gear Thread, there'd be 6 posts and it would drift away into the forgotten annals of Hype history

[guitarsingerguy]

and yet if you made a useful GSG's Gear Thread, there'd be 6 posts and it would drift away into the forgotten annals of Hype history

Why Wilhelm? Why?????????????????? :(

[Wilhelm-Scream]

These Philistines don't care about "frequencies"! :cmad:
They don't care about "tone". :rolleyes:

[guitarsingerguy]

These Philistines don't care about "frequencies"! :cmad:
They don't care about "tone". :rolleyes:

I've dedicated the past five years of my life at Zeagler Music in Baton Rouge to teaching and instructing guitar players and vocalists alike about TONE. I'm not about to stop just because I'm on a message board where people think DD6's are for your voice dammit. :mad:

[KenK]

Want a killer rock album with female vocals? Check out Flyleaf. Now THAT girl can sing! :up:

jag

Heard it, didn't like it. Outside of "Sick" and "I'm Sorry", I didn't particularly care for the singer's vocals.

I liked The Open Door. It did have to grow on me, but once it did, I really enjoyed it. Definitely not better than Fallen, but I found it to be a solid enough effort.

[KingOfDreams]

OMFG, KOD!!!
You didn't put your voice through a BOSS DD-SIX?!?!?!
What were you THINKING?!?
Oh Mother of GAwd WHYYYyy?!?!?

You do realize you're pumping your vocals through a delay pedal designed to accept completely opposite frenquencies from what your voice produces right? In other words, it makes it sound bad. Do yourself a favor and go buy a delay pedal or vocal effects processor MADE for your voice. It will make a world of difference.

Haha. Seriously though, the DD-6 is all I have and I was experimenting. And honestly, my voice probably sounds better through my amp's reverb than through the DD-6 anyway. And yeah, I know both aren't built for voice. But I'm not a huge gear-head either. Part of me thinks I should learn more about tone and pitch and frequencies and keys and **** that like but also, part of me just doesn't care. If I can find something that sounds good to me than it's fine. If I ever play in a band again I'll probably make more of an effort because then it's important that you sound good to other people, even if you sound bad. Bad can be good if you know what I mean. Grunge, lo-fi, etc.

[KingOfDreams]

Want a killer rock album with female vocals? Check out Flyleaf. Now THAT girl can sing! :up:


Yeah, she's a great singer. However, I like the music of Evanescene better. Put that band with her as the singer and you might have something.

[guitarsingerguy]

Haha. Seriously though, the DD-6 is all I have and I was experimenting. And honestly, my voice probably sounds better through my amp's reverb than through the DD-6 anyway. And yeah, I know both aren't built for voice. But I'm not a huge gear-head either. Part of me thinks I should learn more about tone and pitch and frequencies and keys and **** that like but also, part of me just doesn't care. If I can find something that sounds good to me than it's fine. If I ever play in a band again I'll probably make more of an effort because then it's important that you sound good to other people, even if you sound bad. Bad can be good if you know what I mean. Grunge, lo-fi, etc.

Look, anything you wanna know, I'll be more then happy to help you learn. I've spent thousands of dollars on this **** to find out all this crap, and I work with absolute gear junkies. I used to be one until I quit playing. If you ever wanna know anything just send me a PM.

[KingOfDreams]

Look, anything you wanna know, I'll be more then happy to help you learn. I've spent thousands of dollars on this **** to find out all this crap, and I work with absolute gear junkies. I used to be one until I quit playing. If you ever wanna know anything just send me a PM.

Alright. Thanks.

[jaguarr]

Look, anything you wanna know, I'll be more then happy to help you learn. I've spent thousands of dollars on this **** to find out all this crap, and I work with absolute gear junkies. I used to be one until I quit playing. If you ever wanna know anything just send me a PM.

All I ever needed was my Sure SM58, a good monitor and a tiny, tiny little bit of reverb. :p

jag

[El ASESINO]

Well atleast you have the goodtaste to dig necrophagia.
That bloodfreak vid is cool, heheheh

Mortician are solid on record, sure the music is simple and dumb, but that is half the fun. They make me laugh, plus I can rock out to em.
and they have the coolest album covers ever, also live they have a real drummer. They are the heavyiest band on the planet and no one can ***** w/ em.


I agree about there covers
They have some of the best album covers

The Polish police F**** with Will


Vital reamins are the heavyiest band then mayhem

[guitarsingerguy]

All I ever needed was my Sure SM58, a good monitor and a tiny, tiny little bit of reverb. :p

jag

Look, we can't all sound like a big black guy who has smoked five packs of Camel unfiltereds everyday for the past ten years. :mad: On another note, the Betas are SO MUCH better than the SM series. The added frequency bands make all the difference in the world.

[jaguarr]

Look, we can't all sound like a big black guy who has smoked five packs of Camel unfiltereds everyday for the past ten years. :mad: On another note, the Betas are SO MUCH better than the SM series. The added frequency bands make all the difference in the world.

Yeah, but the SM58's are in-freaking-destructible! I could throw my mic through a bus window and it would still work like a champ. :up:

jag

[guitarsingerguy]

Yeah, but the SM58's are in-freaking-destructible! I could throw my mic through a bus window and it would still work like a champ. :up:

jag

Guess what buddy? Betas are built using the same exact housing, a dent resistant grill (which the SM doesn't have), and all around better construction. They took all of the good of the SM and improved upon it. No more excuses. GO BUY A BETA!!!!!! :mad:

[jaguarr]

Guess what buddy? Betas are built using the same exact housing, a dent resistant grill (which the SM doesn't have), and all around better construction. They took all of the good of the SM and improved upon it. No more excuses. GO BUY A BETA!!!!!! :mad:

Yes sir. :csad:

Actually, I have been considering getting another mic (sold the old one) and an m-audio box so I can start doing some vocal recording on my original stuff, so this is good info that I'll probably use at some point. :up:

jag

[guitarsingerguy]

Don't do that if you're going to record with it. Go get you an MAudio Nova mic on the cheap end of things and a pop filter.

[jaguarr]

Don't do that if you're going to record with it. Go get you an MAudio Nova mic on the cheap end of things and a pop filter.

I haven't been all that impressed with the mic's MAudio's been putting out. I'll have to do a little research when I get closer to actually doing it, I suppose. A pop filter's kind of a given for recording, though. :)

jag

[guitarsingerguy]

All I'm saying is don't get a stage mic like a 58. You need something LIKE the Nova. And sure, a pop filter is given TO YOU, but you should come work at the store here for a few weeks. And for the record, NONE of MAudios stuff is really impressive. It is what it is: fairly cheap gear.

[jaguarr]

All I'm saying is don't get a stage mic like a 58. You need something LIKE the Nova. And sure, a pop filter is given TO YOU, but you should come work at the store here for a few weeks. And for the record, NONE of MAudios stuff is really impressive. It is what it is: fairly cheap gear.

So find me a moderately priced mic that performs well in recording situations through something like an m-audio box connected to a Mac.

The only thing M-Audio makes that i like are their interface boxes and their keyboards aren't too shabby for cheap make MIDI interface keyboards.

jag

[Kaleb]

oh good im glad I read this thread I was tempted to purchase this cd

[guitarsingerguy]

So find me a moderately priced mic that performs well in recording situations through something like an m-audio box connected to a Mac.

The only thing M-Audio makes that i like are their interface boxes and their keyboards aren't too shabby for cheap make MIDI interface keyboards.

jag

I'm on the job. :up:

[guitarsingerguy]

So find me a moderately priced mic that performs well in recording situations through something like an m-audio box connected to a Mac.

The only thing M-Audio makes that i like are their interface boxes and their keyboards aren't too shabby for cheap make MIDI interface keyboards.

jag

Rode NT1 - $199
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/R0DE-NT1A-Anniversary-Model-Microphone?sku=271593

AKG C 3000 B - $299 (Much better mic for minimum added cost. Not only good for voice but other instruments as well)
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/AKG-C-3000-B-Condenser-Microphone?sku=271137

Just please, PLEASE go buy from a local merchant if you can. :up:

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Just please, PLEASE go buy from a local merchant if you can. :up:No prob. There's this cool place here locally called "Guitar Center".

[guitarsingerguy]

No prob. There's this cool place here locally called "Guitar Center".

You know what I mean. Please stay away form the WalMarts of the music industry. If you prefer going into a place where you buy "used" **** brand new then be my guest. Just know you're hurting people that really care about what they do and how their job is done. You generally get nothing but mindless morons in the supermarket guitar shops. Take your business to someone who needs it, and show places like GC that they can't sell cheap gear with moron salesmen and stay in business. Brook Mays went out the picture for the same reason. End rant.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Duh, kidding.
I used to be pals with Progressive Music in Utah. They wouldn't sell you any guitar until they'd checked the intonation, put brand new strings on it and checked it out all over and inquired as to how you'd like it set up as far as action and s***.

You go to the GC here, point at the guitar on the wall and ask for "that", they'll get a ladder, take it off the wall, hand it to you and ask "Will that be cash or credit?"

Then you get home and 12th fret on the E string is a freaking Fsharp, LOL.

[jaguarr]

Rode NT1 - $199
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/R0DE-NT1A-Anniversary-Model-Microphone?sku=271593

AKG C 3000 B - $299 (Much better mic for minimum added cost. Not only good for voice but other instruments as well)
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/AKG-C-3000-B-Condenser-Microphone?sku=271137

Just please, PLEASE go buy from a local merchant if you can. :up:

Thanks, mate! AKG is a brand I know and trust. I've got a local shop that always has great deals and guarantees their gear. They get my business. :up:

jag

[Darth Elektra]

The first album was much better but I still liked this album.

[The Chairman]

I'm always disappointed by Evanessence. With the exception of "My Immortal", which actually does manage to bring a tear to my eye, I find them to be an incredibly dreadful band. Amy Lee is hot, though. And she has the same birthday as me.

[kainedamo]

Terrible band. Predictable, bland, nu metal rubbish.

Their new songs sound just like their old ones. Very predictable. You can write an evanscence song in your sleep.

Song begins, insert female wailing with piano. Lasts for about a minute.

Kick in some guitar, song gets faster.

Insert more female wailing. Insert a white guy that thinks he's a rapper or something, who throws in the odd comment into the song here and there.

More electric guitar.

That's about 90% if not all Evanscence songs.

[kainedamo]

The only difference between Evanscence and so many other nu metal rubbish is the groups lead singer.

What bands like Evanscence lack is actual musical quality. They also wouldn't know subtlety if it bit them in the backside.

[04nbod]

i bought this the first day it came out because i loved their first album but this was nothing special- the first song excited me and then there was the single after that they all melded into one- none stood out,maybe with some videos more of the songs will pack a punch. i loved the cover art though- one of the best this year

[Bastila]

The first album was much better but I still liked this album.

Yeah I think that as well, most people think this is better, but I think the first one is heavier as well.
But I still like the open door.

[Decay]

am i the only one dissapointed with this album? i expected something alot more better then the first album, this one does'nt even come close. if ben moody was the person behind the first album, might as well bring his ass back into the group.



i really really wish i had downloaded this album instead. bought the first and was hugely satisfied thus why i bought it. but this really deserved a download.
I felt dissapointed too! They could've done better!

[kainedamo]

I felt dissapointed too! They could've done better!


No they couldn't. They suck.

[kainedamo]

Want female rock singers who's music isn't over produced mass market rubbish??

PJ Harvey.
Aimee Mann.

[*xmenfan*]

A lot of these "blockbuster follow-ups" don't really live up to the hype. What did you guys think about Sam's Town?
Its not as fun as their first hot fuss. But it is more older I like the album its quite good.

I have both Evanscences albums i bought them the other day but i havent listened to them.

[kane9321]

Terrible band. Predictable, bland, nu metal rubbish.

Their new songs sound just like their old ones. Very predictable. You can write an evanscence song in your sleep.

Song begins, insert female wailing with piano. Lasts for about a minute.

Kick in some guitar, song gets faster.

Insert more female wailing. Insert a white guy that thinks he's a rapper or something, who throws in the odd comment into the song here and there.

More electric guitar.

That's about 90% if not all Evanscence songs.


^^^ thats why I like them:woot:

[kainedamo]

Because all their songs are the same??? :confused:

[imdaly]

Terrible band. Predictable, bland, nu metal rubbish.

Their new songs sound just like their old ones. Very predictable. You can write an evanscence song in your sleep.

Song begins, insert female wailing with piano. Lasts for about a minute.

Kick in some guitar, song gets faster.

Insert more female wailing. Insert a white guy that thinks he's a rapper or something, who throws in the odd comment into the song here and there.

More electric guitar.

That's about 90% if not all Evanscence songs.

Some of their songs feature Amy on the piano...most don't.

There's definitely going to be a lot of guitar in their songs...they ARE a rock band, after all.

and your mentioning about "Insert a white guy that thinks he's a rapper or something, who throws in the odd comment into the song here and there" occurs in a grand total of ONE of their songs. Ever. Every other Evanescence song has Amy Lee only, unless you count female back-up vocals in many of their songs.

[kainedamo]

I still don't like them. They sound so produced and commercial and they're just bland.