Donald Rumsfeld stepping down...

[lazur]

Coming over the wires now. No news stories to post as of yet.

[04nbod]

just saw it on sky news and posted it on the results thread- yay- republicans are feelin the heat of iraq finally

someone called robert gates expected to take the post

[kane9321]

this day just keeps getting better and better.....if its true

[04nbod]

bush to speak now on news channels

[jaguarr]

Awesome news. Maybe we'll get a Sec. of Defense who will actually listen to the Generals and other military personnel who have YEARS of experience when it comes to these kinds of matters.

jag

[Halcohol]

SWEET. This is the guy who SHOULD'VE been hunting with Cheney.

[Shifty]

That will bump the Britney sex tape off the front page.

[Darren Daring]

Ha, I doubt it.

[Lackey]

That will bump the Britney sex tape off the front page.


dammit :cmad:

[04nbod]

yeah , have you heard of a little tabloid paper called the Daily sport lol

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Whocares? Bush is the real problem.

[04nbod]

"time for new leadership at the pentagon"
"superb leader during a time of change"
Bush quotes about rumsfeld. he urged his enemies not to celebrate and iraquis not to be afraid.
he said while leading texas he used' common sense' judgements :huh:

[Shifty]

As long as there isn't a Rumsfeld sex tape released....

[Iceman]

That will bump the Britney sex tape off the front page.Not in the good ol' UK :yay:

[I SEE SPIDEY]

As long as there isn't a Rumsfeld sex tape released....*vomits*:csad:

[I SEE SPIDEY]

As long as there isn't a Rumsfeld sex tape released....*vomits*:csad: I was going to edit but that idea is worthy of two vomits.

[Mr Sparkle]

Awesome news. Maybe we'll get a Sec. of Defense who will actually listen to the Generals and other military personnel who have YEARS of experience when it comes to these kinds of matters.

jag

you know, generals and majors uh-hu, they're never too far, from battlefields so glorious.

[Halcohol]

*vomits*:(
So bad you had to do it twice?

[Shifty]

America needs James Heller.

http://twentyfouronline.com/imagearchive/albums/screencaptures/season4/4x02/04-02-665.jpg

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[thewhitequeen]

Yeah CNN is reporting on it now. Crazy. It's about time. This has been the best election season ever.

[Shifty]

*vomits*:csad: I was going to edit but that idea is worthy of two vomits.

That's next week's South Park. You know it.

[Lackey]

America needs James Heller.

http://twentyfouronline.com/imagearchive/albums/screencaptures/season4/4x02/04-02-665.jpg

http://twentyfouronline.com/imagearchive/albums/screencaptures/season4/4x06/04-06-140.jpg

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nah, he didin't listen to Jack and messed everything up :cmad:

[Tangled Web]

Awesome news. Maybe we'll get a Sec. of Defense who will actually listen to the Generals and other military personnel who have YEARS of experience when it comes to these kinds of matters.

jag
Exactly.

[raybia]

THANK THE LORD ALMIGHTY!!

First Whitney leaving Bobby, then Britney leaving K-Fed now Bush leaving Rumsfield.

Who's next?

[Shifty]

nah, he didin't listen to Jack and messed everything up :cmad:

He did admit he was wrong and sacrifice himself.

[Lackey]

THANK THE LORD ALMIGHTY!!

First Whitney leaving Bobby, then Britney leaving K-Fed now Bush leaving Rumsfield.

Who's next?
Reese Witherspoon and Ryan Phillippe split :confused:

[kane9321]

thank god

[Lackey]

He did admit he was wrong and sacrifice himself.


but I'm still so mad at him :csad:

[Daisy]

YEA!

Rumsfeld quitting as defense secretary
POSTED: 1:39 p.m. EST, November 8, 2006

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush announced Wednesday that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is stepping down from his post.

"The timing is right for new leadership at the Pentagon," Bush said at the White House Wednesday afternoon.

Rumsfeld has been heavily criticized for his policies in Iraq, and exit polls taken during Tuesday's midterm election showed strong voter dissatisfaction -- 57 percent -- with the Iraq war.

"I recognize that many Americans voted last night to register their displeasure with the lack of progress being made" in Iraq, Bush said. (Bush discusses Rumsfeld's resignation -- 1:27)

Bush said he has "a series of thoughtful conversations" with Rumsfeld about the defense secretary's resignation.

Former CIA chief Robert Gates,who headed that agency from 1991 until 1993, will be nominated to take over as defense secretary, Bush said Wednesday.

Gates is now president of Texas A&M University in College Station, Texas.

Rumsfeld, 74, has served as defense secretary since January 20, 2001, the beginning of Bush's first term.

He also served as defense secretary under President Ford from 1975 to 1977.

"Don Rumsfeld has been a superb leader during a time of change," Bush said Wednesday. "Yet he also appreciates the value of bringing in a fresh perspective during a critical period in this war."

With the change, Bush pledged to stand by the people of Iraq.

"Do not be fearful," Bush said in reference to Iraqis. "As you take the difficult steps toward democracy and peace, America's going to stand with you. We know you want a better way of life, and now is the time to seize it."

Bush also expressed support for U.S. military personnel.

"Don't be doubtful. America will always support you," the president said. "Our nation is blessed to have men and women who volunteer to serve and are willing to risk their own lives for the safety of our fellow citizens."

Rumsfeld has been under increasing pressure as U.S. casualties mount in Iraq.

October was the fourth-deadliest month for U.S. troops since the 2003 invasion, with 105 Americans killed.

Earlier this year, eight retired generals, including former NATO commander Wesley Clark and the former head of U.S. Central Command Anthony Zinni, called on Rumsfeld to resign.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/08/rumsfeld/index.html

[Shifty]

but I'm still so mad at him :csad:

What about Dell Rusk?

[raybia]

I'm happy to see him go but Rumfield was just a yes man who was just the front person on the strategy on Iraq and Bush will just replace him with another yes man. The people who make the real decisions are still in power.




"Don Rumsfeld has been a superb leader during a time of change," Bush said Wednesday. "Yet he also appreciates the value of bringing in a fresh perspective during a critical period in this war."

[ShadowBoxing]

wow!

[sinewave]

What about Dell Rusk?

I support him.

[raybia]

Reese Witherspoon and Ryan Phillippe split :confused:


Thats right! :wow: I forgot.

Oh man, please don't let Mike & Mike in the morning (ESPN) be next. :csad:

[Fanticon]

Hey, Rumsfeld....Tank says
http://www.madtv.com/html/characters/bobby/images/pic5.jpg
PASS!!!

[Motown Marvel]

did he really tell iraqi's not to be fearful? seriously? come on! "hey, you know that whole war thing going on outside your front door? yeah, its the one thats probably killed lots of your friends and family and may very well kill you. uh....dont worry about that, nothing to be afraid of there. its cool. we got it. go america."

[04nbod]

yep and he told his enemies no to celebrate:woot:

[raybia]

did he really tell iraqi's not to be fearful? seriously? come on! "hey, you know that whole war thing going on outside your front door? yeah, its the one thats probably killed lots of your friends and family and may very well kill you. uh....dont worry about that, nothing to be afraid of there. its cool. we got it. go america."


Yeah,

"Don't worry Iraqis, as you take the difficult steps toward democracy and peace, America's going to stand with you. Soon you'll too have:

No universal healthcare

Partisianship instead of sectarianism

Easy access to drugs, alcohol, and porn. (And legal too, well except the drugs, but there are ways around that so don't worry.)


Freedom of Religion and speech (but of course no talking about politics while in service)

Freedom to dress like as scantly as you want (Hey it gets hot in Iraq)

And to get your mind off any personal problems you may experience we bring you the world of entertainment! Hours of personalized programming like Sports, American Idol (or Iraqi Idol in your case) and equipment like TVs, computers, and video games that will pacifiy any urge of dissidence.

Oh, and your have Fast Food! No trans fats of course, us Americans are trying to become more health.

[Quietstorm]

I had a non reaction when I heard about this. It was kind of like "Oh".

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I'm happy to see him go but Rumfield was just a yes man who was just the front person on the strategy on Iraq.

Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. If anything it's the other way around.
You need to watch or read some documentaries on Rumsfeld. :csad:

[Erundur]

Yes, Rumsfeld was not a yes man ^^^

[Hotwire]

Whoo-Hoo!! Time to do a happy dance!!! It's about time that guy left! It's just a shame he wasn't fired. That would have been better. Anyone here think that he'll start to throw Bush and Cheney under the bus now? I'm sure he's got plenty of dirt on both of them.

[Hotwire]

I'm happy to see him go but Rumfield was just a yes man who was just the front person on the strategy on Iraq and Bush will just replace him with another yes man. The people who make the real decisions are still in power.
True, Cheney is still there. To me, Bush is a puppet. Cheney is definitely the brains of that group.

[Hotwire]

Anyone else think it's a bit of a coinsidence that Donny steps down the day after the democrats take over the House? You think he could just be doing this in order to avoid being investigated by congress?

[jaguarr]

All I have to say to Rummy is this: Door. Knob. Ass. Bye. :up:

jag

[Matt]

I figure Cheney will be going soon too. They are going to want to prepare their 2008 election to avoid another disaster so they may put someone in the VP spot (Santorum or Allen perhaps) and then they can play the "we tried to cross party lines but the democrat congress blocked us" card.

[sinewave]

I figure Cheney will be going soon too. They are going to want to prepare their 2008 election to avoid another disaster so they may put someone in the VP spot (Santorum or Allen perhaps) and then they can play the "we tried to cross party lines but the democrat congress blocked us" card.

You honestly think they'll try and tap Santorum or Allen to replace Cheney? Santorum is not very well liked by the majority of Americans and Allen is just a Bush clone. I'd think someone like Giulliani would be a better choice for the Republicans in the long run.

[Matt]

You honestly think they'll try and tap Santorum or Allen to replace Cheney? Santorum is not very well liked by the majority of Americans and Allen is just a Bush clone. I'd think someone like Giulliani would be a better choice for the Republicans in the long run.

Giulliani is too far off from party leadership, and while Santorum is hated in PA, the southern and middle states would love him.

[sinewave]

Giulliani is too far off from party leadership, and while Santorum is hated in PA, the southern and middle states would love him.

oh, you're thinking they'll try and respond to the change in power by finding another divisive, controversial character to replace cheney with, as a sort of f-u to the democrats, right?

[jaguarr]

Cheney's going nowhere. Even if they kill him.

jag

[Halcohol]

Cheney's going nowhere. Even if they kill him.

jag
He's already died like 4 times.

[jaguarr]

He's already died like 4 times.

See? I'm right. :up:

jag

[Superman]

YEA!

Rumsfeld quitting as defense secretary
POSTED: 1:39 p.m. EST, November 8, 2006

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush announced Wednesday that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is stepping down from his post.

"The timing is right for new leadership at the Pentagon," Bush said at the White House Wednesday afternoon.

Rumsfeld has been heavily criticized for his policies in Iraq, and exit polls taken during Tuesday's midterm election showed strong voter dissatisfaction -- 57 percent -- with the Iraq war.

"I recognize that many Americans voted last night to register their displeasure with the lack of progress being made" in Iraq, Bush said. (Bush discusses Rumsfeld's resignation -- 1:27)

Bush said he has "a series of thoughtful conversations" with Rumsfeld about the defense secretary's resignation.

Former CIA chief Robert Gates,who headed that agency from 1991 until 1993, will be nominated to take over as defense secretary, Bush said Wednesday.

Gates is now president of Texas A&M University in College Station, Texas.

Rumsfeld, 74, has served as defense secretary since January 20, 2001, the beginning of Bush's first term.

He also served as defense secretary under President Ford from 1975 to 1977.

"Don Rumsfeld has been a superb leader during a time of change," Bush said Wednesday. "Yet he also appreciates the value of bringing in a fresh perspective during a critical period in this war."

With the change, Bush pledged to stand by the people of Iraq.

"Do not be fearful," Bush said in reference to Iraqis. "As you take the difficult steps toward democracy and peace, America's going to stand with you. We know you want a better way of life, and now is the time to seize it."

Bush also expressed support for U.S. military personnel.

"Don't be doubtful. America will always support you," the president said. "Our nation is blessed to have men and women who volunteer to serve and are willing to risk their own lives for the safety of our fellow citizens."

Rumsfeld has been under increasing pressure as U.S. casualties mount in Iraq.

October was the fourth-deadliest month for U.S. troops since the 2003 invasion, with 105 Americans killed.

Earlier this year, eight retired generals, including former NATO commander Wesley Clark and the former head of U.S. Central Command Anthony Zinni, called on Rumsfeld to resign.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/08/rumsfeld/index.html

Ceeeeelebrate good times.....Come on!!!:woot: :woot:

[Matt]

Just out of curiousity, while Bush is saying he has been planning this for awhile...do you really believe it would've happened if Democrats lost?

[thewhitequeen]

Yeah,

"Don't worry Iraqis, as you take the difficult steps toward democracy and peace, America's going to stand with you. Soon you'll too have:

No universal healthcare

Partisianship instead of sectarianism

Easy access to drugs, alcohol, and porn. (And legal too, well except the drugs, but there are ways around that so don't worry.)


Freedom of Religion and speech (but of course no talking about politics while in service)

Freedom to dress like as scantly as you want (Hey it gets hot in Iraq)

And to get your mind off any personal problems you may experience we bring you the world of entertainment! Hours of personalized programming like Sports, American Idol (or Iraqi Idol in your case) and equipment like TVs, computers, and video games that will pacifiy any urge of dissidence.

Oh, and your have Fast Food! No trans fats of course, us Americans are trying to become more health.

what's wrong with legal porn and alcohol??

[C. Lee]

Just out of curiousity, while Bush is saying he has been planning this for awhile...do you really believe it would've happened if Democrats lost?
Nope.....the vote yesterday was like when I worked on the farm....sometimes you just have to hit a cow with a 2x4 accross the head to get his attention.

[SoulManX]

Just out of curiousity, while Bush is saying he has been planning this for awhile...do you really believe it would've happened if Democrats lost?

Nope:o

[SoulManX]

Nope.....the vote yesterday was like when I worked on the farm....sometimes you just have to hit a cow with a 2x4 accross the head to get his attention.

C. Lee I like that statement.

[Halcohol]

Nope.....the vote yesterday was like when I worked on the farm....sometimes you just have to hit a cow with a 2x4 accross the head to get his attention.
Q: What's the last thing that goes through the mind of a cow?

A: A steel bolt

[hippie_hunter]

Wow, this just came practically out of nowhere. That's a good thing. Rumsfeld was definetely the most blameworth of the Bush Administration, was arrogant and pig-headed, and I personally think is the one mostly responsible for f**king up the situation in Iraq.

The biggest shame however is that Rumsfeld had some great ideas for the military, he just implimented them poorly and too soon.

[04nbod]

True, Cheney is still there. To me, Bush is a puppet. Cheney is definitely the brains of that group.

whos scared at this statement

[maxwell's demon]

well, Bush kinda had to do it now. he has to try to get Rumsfeld's repalcement in and approved before the january inaugrations, right?

[C.F. Kane]

HOLY F**KING ASSCRACKERS!!!!!!

































I mean, I'm very surprised.

[Matt]

Wow, this just came practically out of nowhere. That's a good thing. Rumsfeld was definetely the most blameworth of the Bush Administration, was arrogant and pig-headed, and I personally think is the one mostly responsible for f**king up the situation in Iraq.

The biggest shame however is that Rumsfeld had some great ideas for the military, he just implimented them poorly and too soon.

If Bush's warmongering ended on Afgahnistan, and Rummy could've kept it under control, he would've gone down as the most brilliant secretary of defense in US history.

[raybia]

Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. If anything it's the other way around.
You need to watch or read some documentaries on Rumsfeld. :csad:

I'm not implying that Bush is the brains that people like Rumsfeld anwsers to, nor that Rumsfeld didn't make his contributions.

Its not any one person that is directing the Bush Adminstration but a committee.

[lazur]

Just out of curiousity, while Bush is saying he has been planning this for awhile...do you really believe it would've happened if Democrats lost?

Just out of curiousity, I'm wondering why Bush hasn't been given at least *some* credit for Rumsfeld's departure, since he could have just ignored the will of the people and kept him in office.

[Matt]

Just out of curiousity, I'm wondering why Bush hasn't been given at least *some* credit for Rumsfeld's departure, since he could have just ignored the will of the people and kept him in office.

You're such a moderate. :whatever:

Maybe because Bush has ignored the will of the people, the will of the generals, and the will of pretty much everyone for the past 3 years.

[lazur]

You're such a moderate. :whatever:

Maybe because Bush has ignored the will of the people, the will of the generals, and the will of pretty much everyone for the past 3 years.

I don't think so, though. I mean, he considered his re-election a "mandate" from the American people, remember? There was no mechanism (i.e. some vote from the masses) to let him know what the American people were wanting, other than polling, which everyone claims isn't accurate anyway.

And this is a legit question. Why do you think it's not a moderate question, because it asks an objective question from the "other point of view"?

[Prodigy]

good day in the news... dems take house and possibly senate, and rumsfeld resigns... I will sleep a little easier tonight

even though technically I won't be sleeping cause the spider-man trailer premieres tomorrow and I'll be cracked out waiting for that

[blind_fury]

haha. If Rumsfeld had done this a week ago the republicans would still have control of the senate.

dumbasses.

[bunk]

Bush fires people hoping they'll take a little blame with them.

[raybia]

haha. If Rumsfeld had done this a week ago the republicans would still have control of the senate.

dumbasses.

I can only guess that this was done with 2008 in mind. If a democrat wins the White House then Democrats will have total control of the U.S. :wow:

And who knows better than the Bush Adminstration of what can happen when one party controls the country.

[Revolver_Ocelot]

Uhm, All I heard was "Britney sex tape"
I think I've got permanent wood

[raybia]

Uhm, All I heard was "Britney sex tape"
I think I've got permanent wood


Look up the Mark Foley sex tape to get rid of it.

[lazur]

haha. If Rumsfeld had done this a week ago the republicans would still have control of the senate.

dumbasses.

And if Rumsfeld had done this a week ago, wouldn't you be sitting here claiming it was "just in time" for the election and blaming Bush for being underhanded?

[Mr Sparkle]

old but appropriate

the fighting styles of rumsfeld (http://www.poe-news.com/features.php?feat=31845)

[raybia]

old but appropriate

the fighting styles of rumsfeld (http://www.poe-news.com/features.php?feat=31845)

What about the choking chicken technique?

[FreeRadical]

Looks like Rumsfeld is the fall guy.....Didn't Bush only recently say that he wanted Rumsfeld to stay until 2009 before todays K.O by the Democrats.

:dew:

[bunk]

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/6385/rumsfeldjb0.jpg

[unstoppable]

this means they'll be a new Chain of Command member for me to memorize:cmad:

[Matt]

Bush should be careful who he fires. His last few fire-ees wrote some rather damaging books. I could only imagine what Rummy could write.

[maxwell's demon]

i dont think so. Rummy, cheney, they're more in the Ashcroft crowd. all those guys are part of an old guard with ties to W's dad. they ain't talkin.

[Halcohol]

i dont think so. Rummy, cheney, they're more in the Ashcroft crowd. all those guys are part of an old guard with ties to W's dad. they ain't talkin.
it wouldn't exactly help them... if they talked they're the ones that would end up getting f***ed.

[Matt]

i dont think so. Rummy, cheney, all those guys are part of an old guard with ties to W's dad. they ain't talkin.

Come now Max, these guys will do anything for money and more power. Even if it means selling out their friends.

[maxwell's demon]

but thats the thing- they'd LOSE money (and by corollary, power) if they sold out.

book money<business investment money

[Matt]

but thats the thing- they'd LOSE money (and by corollary, power) if they sold out.

book money<business investment money
Point well taken.

[Arkady Rossovich]

Good news for the Americans.He left because the Democrats and the people were about to call for his head,he would have been bombarded by critisim.

[Demon Within]

Think of how many lives could have been saved had this come 2 years ago.

[Hotwire]

Think of how many lives could have been saved had this come 2 years ago.
Thousands! But thank God he's gone now.

[raybia]

i dont think so. Rummy, cheney, they're more in the Ashcroft crowd. all those guys are part of an old guard with ties to W's dad. they ain't talkin.

Especially if they don't want to end up with a bullet in the back of the head. Seriously.

[terry78]

it wouldn't exactly help them... if they talked they're the ones that would end up getting f***ed.
Literally.

[hippie_hunter]

Good news for the Americans.He left because the Democrats and the people were about to call for his head,he would have been bombarded by critisim.

I would have to agree with you. The Democrats may have taken Bush's removal off the table, but the others like Rumsfeld and Cheney are still free game.

[tomahawk53]

I never did really trust that guy anyway. And I agree it was a smart move for him stepping down...just a matter of time before he would have been ousted anyway.

Sayonara

[sinewave]

I really have to hand it to Bush, he's saying all the right things since the Democrats took over Congress and the Senate. I'm glad to hear him discuss bipartisanship like he's doing. I only wish he had tried that when he first took office. I hope he follows through with it.