Who is the best detective in all fiction.

[Sloth7d]

Personally, I think Sherlock Holmes is. I know, typical answer, but I think its typical for a reason. Sherlock Holmes is so perceptive that he can tell where a persons been and what they were doing just by looking at them. He always manages to see the fine details of an area that everyone misses. And has figured out crimes that would be deemed unsolvable, during his time period. I would say Jimmy Kuddo is the best, but the creator of Case Closed specifically went out of his way to make Jimmy exactly like Sherlock. Now even though IMO Jimmy is probably a better detective, he would have never existed if not for Sherlock. But if you want you can rebut that he is better and easily win that debate.Now I've been having this debate with a friend(Batman fanboy), and I think Bruce is smart but definately no Sherlock. Batman has been baffled far too many times to be considered on his level IMO. From what I've read from the fine works of Aythor Conan Doyle, I must say that Holmes is a better detective than any I read or seen so far in fiction, unless someone else would like to add their 2 cents.

[Fred_Fury]

Batman is the best, he has all the technology to analyze DNA, determine the molecular structure of the evdence, surveilence cameras, surveilence amplifiers, high powered microscopes, telescopes, even satelites at his disposal. Batman makes Sherlock Holmes look like an amateur.

[Not Jake]

Veronica Mars:cmad:

[War Lord]

Encyclopedia Brown.

[Parker]

In all of fiction, I couldn't tell you, but as far as the comic book medium goes, Tim Drake has the potential to become the world's greatest detective, surpassing even Batman himself, as stated by said character in Robin #136.

[Andy C.]

Batman is the best, he has all the technology to analyze DNA, determine the molecular structure of the evdence, surveilence cameras, surveilence amplifiers, high powered microscopes, telescopes, even satelites at his disposal. Batman makes Sherlock Holmes look like an amateur.

And yet even with all that stuff, Batman keeps getting caught off-guard by the same criminals. Sherlock managed to do similar stuff with technology 100 years behind Batman, and he didn't even need half a dozen sidekicks.

[Quimby2999]

Nobody can hold a candle to Inspector Gadget's neice, Penny.

[War Lord]

Nobody can hold a candle to Inspector Gadget's neice, Penny.

I bet that Brain could hold that candle.

[Darthphere]

Veronica Mars:cmad:


Seconded.

[Silicon Surfer]

Detective Chimp

[SuperFerret]

Adrian Monk

[RockSP]

Duck Twacy

[Red Mask]

If technology and brains make Batman better than Holmes, then Lincoln Rhyme is far better than Bats. Both as a forensic specialist and a criminalist. Professionally, both Batman and Holmes fall under the 'amateur detective' category simply because they are not professionals.

[spiderbob]

:batman:

:o :woot:

[Not Jake]

If technology and brains make Batman better than Holmes, then Lincoln Rhyme is far better than Bats. Both as a forensic specialist and a criminalist. Professionally, both Batman and Holmes fall under the 'amateur detective' category simply because they are not professionals.
What is Sherlock Holmes' job if not detective work?:huh: I only read Hound of the Baskervilles and that was when I was like 10:csad:

[Sloth7d]

And yet even with all that stuff, Batman keeps getting caught off-guard by the same criminals. Sherlock managed to do similar stuff with technology 100 years behind Batman, and he didn't even need half a dozen sidekicks.
Exactly. And he did he always figured out the mystery no matter how elaborate the plot. He could tell how strong or what hobbies a person is into just by looking at the. In batmans first encounter with Clark, he couldn't even tell their was something strange about him.

[Red Mask]

What is Sherlock Holmes' job if not detective work?:huh: I only read Hound of the Baskervilles and that was when I was like 10:csad:

Read the essay of "The Guilty Vicarage" by W.H. Auden. Technically, Holmes & Batman do not fall under the same league of professionals. Holmes's brilliance was recognized by Scotland Yard. And yet, he pursued cases out of his own curiousity, without a license and sometimes without consent or notification of necessary parties. The pursuit of Professor Moriarty was a more a private matter. Holmes's formal education and training was not directed towards detective work. He only later applied his mind to that field.

Criminalists like Lincoln Rhyme are more professional. Although curiousity is what partly drives Rhyme to his work he is formally retained. He is also able to testify as a witness, and has recognized credentials that can support his deductions.

[Red Mask]

And yet even with all that stuff, Batman keeps getting caught off-guard by the same criminals. Sherlock managed to do similar stuff with technology 100 years behind Batman, and he didn't even need half a dozen sidekicks.

Sherlock Holmes and Watson sometimes employed the Baker Street Regulars. But they were smart enough not to put the kids in harm's way.

[The Shredder]

Columbo :o

[twylight]

Miss. Marple

[Kool-Aid]

Cam Jansen

[droogiedroogie2]

And yet even with all that stuff, Batman keeps getting caught off-guard by the same criminals. Sherlock managed to do similar stuff with technology 100 years behind Batman, and he didn't even need half a dozen sidekicks.Detection is reactive, not proactive. You detect after a crime. Holmes didn't stop crimes from happening either. He solved them.

That said, Holmes is the greatest detective in fiction, ever. Technology does not make one a greater detective, it just amplifies talent. Holmes is tops. Followed by Batman.

[Sloth7d]

Nah, I say its Holmes followed by Jimmy Kuddo. And it could even be argued that Jimmy is better.

[Pink Ranger]

Will Graham, IMO. He caught Hannibal Lecter, a foe who was of exponentially greater intellect than he was.

Holmes was good, but he always had the advantage of being way smarter than the person he was trying to catch (with just one exception, of course).

[LadyMoira]

My top three have to be Sherlock Holmes, Gideon Fell, and Miss Marple. I say we send them all to a country house where a murder took place to fight it out for the top slot.

[twylight]

Hercule Poirot

Nero Wolfe

Remington Steele :up:

[mawo32]

Sam Spade.

[Fading]

Nah, I say its Holmes followed by Jimmy Kuddo. And it could even be argued that Jimmy is better.

Heh, knew you were an anime fan, not that you talking about it before or you avatar didn't give it away :).

Yes, Holmes first, and I would probably put Jimmy Kuddo in the top 5. As far as I remember it was a book before it was made an anime. Anyway never read the anime that was modeled after the book, but Jimmy was a Holmes fan, and a genius detective (to those of you that haven't seen it). Like being able to tell a man was a surgeon from marks on his finger from pressing against a scalpel over the years, to knowing a woman was a gymnist by shaking her hands and her body type, to knowing a woman was a serial killer by seeing the lines on her hands from where she had been using a wire to strangle victims.

Batman probably gets either the 5th or close to it spot for me, but the problem is he doesn't detect as often as he could. A lot is in response to a crime having already have happened, or catching a criminal in the act. Then most clues that are found are solved with scientific instruments, and not always old fashioned deducing like Holmes does. Instead of noticing a torn shred of clothing and knowing that the fabric is made of a specific fiber only found in a certain part of the world, it's off to the batcave to run it thru the computer where it deduces the same thing.

[droogiedroogie2]

Will Graham, IMO. He caught Hannibal Lecter, a foe who was of exponentially greater intellect than he was.

Holmes was good, but he always had the advantage of being way smarter than the person he was trying to catch (with just one exception, of course).Which makes him the best detective. You gonna give him a handicap because he's incredibly smart?

[droogiedroogie2]

Remington Steele :up:Unfortunately, with a name like "Remington Steele," one can't be the best or coolest or most badass at anything. At all.

[droogiedroogie2]

Batman probably gets either the 5th or close to it spot for me, but the problem is he doesn't detect as often as he could. A lot is in response to a crime having already have happened, or catching a criminal in the act. Then most clues that are found are solved with scientific instruments, and not always old fashioned deducing like Holmes does. Instead of noticing a torn shred of clothing and knowing that the fabric is made of a specific fiber only found in a certain part of the world, it's off to the batcave to run it thru the computer where it deduces the same thing.He does know a lot of that stuff though, and he programmed those computers. Furthermore, this is the same as arguing that Holmes' intelligence is an unfair advantage. These are the conditions of the person's detection, in their time and context. Given the way they do their work, who's the best?

[Cyrusbales]

Sam spade, Dick tracey, Philip marlowe

[Sloth7d]

Will Graham, IMO. He caught Hannibal Lecter, a foe who was of exponentially greater intellect than he was.

Holmes was good, but he always had the advantage of being way smarter than the person he was trying to catch (with just one exception, of course).
I don't think thats a good argument. Heres an example. Spiderman has defeated several villains stronger than him. But does that make him a better superhero than Superman, a guy who hardly has any villains that can challenge him without kryptonite and magic?

[A.J.Rimmer(BSC)]

Columbo :o


Damn you beat me to it.

[Union Jack]

ace ventura.

at being a PET detective.

other than that i'd give it to sherlock holmes.

[War Lord]

Batman probably gets either the 5th or close to it spot for me, but the problem is he doesn't detect as often as he could. A lot is in response to a crime having already have happened, or catching a criminal in the act. Then most clues that are found are solved with scientific instruments, and not always old fashioned deducing like Holmes does. Instead of noticing a torn shred of clothing and knowing that the fabric is made of a specific fiber only found in a certain part of the world, it's off to the batcave to run it thru the computer where it deduces the same thing.

What kind of detective goes looking for suspects before a crime has happened?

[twylight]

Unfortunately, with a name like "Remington Steele," one can't be the best or coolest or most badass at anything. At all.

http://www.familie-im-web.de/familie/cyberserien/r/remington_steele/00/remington_steele_02.jpg

[Abaddon]

Shelby Woo

[Sloth7d]

Shelby Woo
OMG! I remember that show. It really was a sleeper hit.
Well, maybe I think that way because I weas young when I saw it.

[Red]

Jessica Fletcher

[droogiedroogie2]

What kind of detective goes looking for suspects before a crime has happened?Exactly. That's why half this conversation has been retarded.

[droogiedroogie2]

http://www.familie-im-web.de/familie/cyberserien/r/remington_steele/00/remington_steele_02.jpgAnd he was cool as Bond. But nobody can make a name like "Remington Steele" cool or badass. Not even my boy Pierce. Not even Sean Connery could do it. Maybe Jesus Christ could. But I kind of doubt it.

[Abaddon]

Cam Jansen


Haha, I remember reading her when i was in the third grade.:yay:

[CConn]

http://img2.imagepile.net/img2b/3046623_400x600.jpg

:up:

[Max J Power]

I don't know who's the best, but none are cooler than Batman.

[Quimby2999]

http://img2.imagepile.net/img2b/3046623_400x600.jpg

:up:

Yeah, definitely that guy.

[yenaled]

Mark Sloan

[Spike_x1]

The Hardy Boys. :o :up:

[droogiedroogie2]

The Hardy Boys. :o :up:Them guys kicked ass.

[Silicon Surfer]

More candidates: The Saint, Magnum, Jessica Fletcher, Doc Savage.

[yenaled]

Dr. Mark Sloan pisses all over Jessica Fletcher.

[Silicon Surfer]

Then maybe he needs his prostate checked.

[CBG]

Batman is the best, he has all the technology to analyze DNA, determine the molecular structure of the evdence, surveilence cameras, surveilence amplifiers, high powered microscopes, telescopes, even satelites at his disposal. Batman makes Sherlock Holmes look like an amateur.

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/1205/batmanmeetsholmeskj1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[jono11]

Then maybe he needs his prostate checked.He's got a lawsuit coming. And Dave Chappelle is going to make a hilarious parody music video about him.

What issue is that page from?

Batman is the best, he has all the technology to analyze DNA, determine the molecular structure of the evdence, surveilence cameras, surveilence amplifiers, high powered microscopes, telescopes, even satelites at his disposal. Batman makes Sherlock Holmes look like an amateur.Have you ever even read Sherlock Holmes? He was written with an impossible aptitude for deduction and logical skill. Doyle would come up with problems that would be impossible for anyone to solve, and then work backwards from there, coming up with tiny details that nobody would notice.

[jono11]

dbl post deleted.

[Spike_x1]

Doctor Gregory House?

[DarkNick]

I'll say Batman, just because this is a comic forum.

That said, he's "the world's greatest detective" and all, but what stories really showcased this?

[Crimson_L]

Holmes yo.

[Flexo]

Tintin.

[st barbara]

Dr John Silence or maybe Carnacki !