Who Misses Pierce Brosnan As 007?

[BloodyWolverine]

I may be alone on this but does anyone miss Pierce Brosnan as James Bond for i really thaught he was the ideal Bond. But no the producers had to piss Pierce off. He may come back like Sean did but i doubt it.

I will give Craig a chance and i am glad to see the Goldeye director back doing Bond. But no Moneypenny or Q really stinks. Unless Bond was there before them but i doubt it. Maybe he had to do this mission to get to the gadget room.

Many don't think Dench should be M but thats not a big problem but for a prequel i could see Anthony Hopkins, John Hurt, Sam Neil or Patrick Stewart as M. My dream M would have been Sean Connery but anyway Dench has made her own M and i can live with it.

My ideal Bond with no Pierce would have been. Christian Bale, Hugh Jackman or Clive Owen. I may be wrong but even Julian McMahon would have been a better Bond. I will give Craig like i said a chance but he is not my top choice.

[Majik1387]

I liked him but I'll reserve judgement until after I see Casino Royale. But I will say Pierce is so much better looking to me than Daniel.

[BatMatt]

not the critics, that's for damn sure

[블라스]

That ass clown who runs http://www.danielcraigisnotbond.com/ LOL!

[War Party]

I wasn't a big Pierce fan. I loved Goldeneye, but the rest of his Bond films I could care less about. Daniel Craig is awesome in Layer Cake and Munich, and I expect the same from him Casino Royale.

[cyborg ninja 14]

Im glad to see a new fresh spin on Bond.

[LostSon88]

Shouldn't you have waited until you actually see Casino Royale before making a thread like this?

[Poetic Chaos]

I wasn't excited for one Bond film while Pierce was in. As a result I didn't watch any of them. Casino Royale looks awesome. I'll most likely watch it. So no, I don't miss him.

[Lighthouse]

I loved Brosnan and thought he was the best Bond since Connery. That said, I'm very excited to see Craig as Bond.

[Cаrter]

I do.
Goldeneye was my introduction into Bond.

I must have played that n64 game for years.
Multiplayer was the best.

[Halcohol]

I do.
Goldeneye was my introduction into Bond.

I must have played that n64 game for years.
Multiplayer was the best.
Totally. Everyone knows the RCP-90 was pure awesome :)

[Cаrter]

That ass clown who runs http://www.danielcraigisnotbond.com/ LOL!

"To make matters that much worse, this story will turn Bond into a combination of
Jason Bourne and The Transporter. "

[Galactus]

He was a good Bond. It's a shame the quality of the movies just went down with each one after GoldenEye. Should be intersting to see if Daniel Craig's run as Bon will follow the same pattern.

[The Kid]

I wish they'd make bond like green lantern and have a new bond every movie, and maybe sometimes a bond would be a weird alien... I can dream.

[Superhero Hype!]

After seeing Casino Royale, I think Craig and Connery are my favorite Bonds.

[primemover]

Not a fan of Brosnan as bond, I liked Timothy Dalton better.

Even though it looks like the new movie is good and Craig did a good job in the role, I think Christian Bale would've been a superb choice for a year one Bond.

[GREEN =w= DAY]

Daniel Craig is one ugly ass mofo! i dunno how the hell he managed to be Bond :cmad: Pierce should have been given one more shot. or at least, cast someone who LOOKS like Bond and has the charisma (Christian Bale, Hugh Jackman, Julian McMahon, etc => HELL!! i would have rather preffered Orlando Bloom than Craig!!!)

[The Kid]

That guy who played doom would have made a great bond... though his name's julian so maybe not...

[BloodyWolverine]

My only true complaint is no Q or Moneypenny. The real good thing is that the Goldeneye director is back as director for Casino Royale. I liked Judy Dench as M but would love to have seen Hopkins or John Hurt play the prequel male M. My dream M would have been to see Sean Connery to play M just once as a call back to Bond in general.

[blind_fury]

Brosnan never convinced me he was as badass or as smooth as Bond should be. Craig looks like the real deal.

Bring it on! :cmad:

[BloodyWolverine]

I heard Hugh Jackman was really close but he could not agree to do multipal Bond movies with all the other projects he wanted to do. But Craig is in The Golden Compus. I think many actors are afraid of being typcast. Pierce was ideal already but Sean proved to be the only one bigger then Bond.

Orlando Bloom would have been the only choice worse then Craig except for maybe Heath Ledger or Jud Law. Ewan McGregor now that would have been Bond.

[Majik1387]

My only true complaint is no Q or Moneypenny. The real good thing is that the Goldeneye director is back as director for Casino Royale. I liked Judy Dench as M but would love to have seen Hopkins or John Hurt play the prequel male M. My dream M would have been to see Sean Connery to play M just once as a call back to Bond in general.
:cmad: WHAT!?!?! :cmad:
That just makes my interest in the movie go down some more.:o

[HellOnEarth]

Man, the spiderman 3 trailer looks horrible.

Black CGI Spiderman looks even worse, than the red and blue spandex one. :down

[BloodyWolverine]

Man, the spiderman 3 trailer looks horrible.

Black CGI Spiderman looks even worse, than the red and blue spandex one. :down
I agree for if this is Spiderman 3 best then Pirates 3 teaser trailer could make the movies have differant out come in may. Because everyone says Spiderman 3 will bury Pirates 3 for it will be the best Spiderman movie. Not if that is there best cgi work. Maybe they should get weta to take a look at it since they are doing Silver Surfer for FF2. Wait this is about James Bond not Spiderman 3.

[LostSon88]

Black CGI Spiderman looks even worse, than the red and blue spandex one. :down

You really think those effects were they're best efforts? C'mon dude, they've got 6 months to refine the effects...they just wanted to get something out there for the public to see.

[Kent]

I'm a big fan of Pierce Brosnan as Bond, and I'm sure I'll miss him, just as Sean Connery fans miss him as Bond... doesn't mean I won't give Craig his fair shot. I'm not too fond of his look for Bond, but he certainly has the acting chops.

[xwolverine2]

not i

[Kevin Roegele]

I heard Hugh Jackman was really close

Not true. There was a leaked document stating that EON found Jackman, 'too fey'.

[BloodyWolverine]

Anyway would i be wrong to say that Christian Bale or Ewan Mcgregor would be perfect Bonds. I mean Bale is playing Bruce Wayne.

[kit1982]

Anyway would i be wrong to say that Christian Bale or Ewan Mcgregor would be perfect Bonds. I mean Bale is playing Bruce Wayne.

Eh?:huh:
Ewan Mcgregor? As in the poor mans Alec Guiness star wars impersonator? I can't see it to be honest, he doesn't seem mature or cold enough to be Bond but hey thats just my two cents.

[Bad Superman]

IMO Brosnan is up there with Connery and Moore.

[Matt]

Call me crazy, but I don't want to see a dark, broody James Bond. I don't like where the character seems to be going in Casino Royale. Why does every hero now-a-days have to be the dark, troubled, hero? I mean, even Superman for Godsake caught that syndrome.

[Immortalfire]

007 isn't supposed to be blonde.

[Dr. Fate]

007's not supposed to be under 6-feet tall either.

Anyhow, I liked Brosnan well enough as Bond, but felt that GoldenEye was the only Bond film that was really good for him. The other 3 he did felt very poor in comparison to the first one and seemed to just coast along on his ability to be Bond but without giving him a more solid story.

[블라스]

Call me crazy, but I don't want to see a dark, broody James Bond. I don't like where the character seems to be going in Casino Royale. Why does every hero now-a-days have to be the dark, troubled, hero? I mean, even Superman for Godsake caught that syndrome.

Crazy! :cmad: :huh:

[pointman]

Pierce who???? Please this is my review go see the movie. You'll forget about Brosnan easily.

This movie ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just got back from seeing it.

Let me 1st say that, Craig is NOT Connery, However, Craig has easily and effortlessly established himself as the 2nd best James Bond. CR ranks the 3rd best Bond movie. Goldfinger comes first, FRWL comes second, followed by CR.

SPOILERS AHEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Do you believe in God"?

"No. I believe in a reasonable return"

What we got with CR after investing Craig into the franchise was a richly, overwhelming return.

The 2 kills were seriously brutal, trust me Craig makes Brosnan look like a girly scout. Just watch Bond's face as he's beating the crap out of the guy in the toilet and the way he drowns him. The second kill was just kept clean. The idiot tried to unload some bullets into Bond but Bond had taken the clip out prior to the guys arrival. (Again, this scene reminds me of the Bond/Dent kill in Dr.No)
Back to the bathroom scenes, the guy who Bond beat the ***** out of isn't dead and tries to reach for his gun but Bond bends down to pick up his gun, swerves around blasting him in the face( This is also the gunbarrel scene) Enter colour.

That sebastian guy, the free runner is one beast of an athlete, can somebody please put him in a spider-man costume for goodness sake! His stunts were noting short f astonishing whilst evading Bond. Craig as Bond was so briliant in the role that its easy to forget that there was a huge outcry as to why he was cast. Hell, you dont even see Craig, you see Bond.

As Bond finally catches the bomber after brilliant stunts of running, chasing evasion, bullet dodging and explosions it all comes to head when Bond is surrounded and thows down his gun and hands the bomber back to his people....only to whip out another gun from his midsection and blast the bomber in the heart and then proceeds to shoot a huge gas tank blowing the ***** out of everything (kind of reminds me of the boat scene in FRWL when Connery shoots those tanks he released into the water, blowing everything up.
Anyway, after the huge explosion Bond is nowhere to be found, he of course pulled a kaizer soze and dissapeared into the bushes.

Enter M. I love her character in this movie, she gives off this maternal vibe as she rants about bond, "celebrating his 00 license by blowing up an embassy". The way she spoke to him wasn't in a condescending manner but more like how a mother rants and disciplines her child. Her scenes with Craig were excellent and despite the tongue lashings she gave him, you could tell she was astonishingly impressed by his resorcefulness (jacking her password and info to get secure files and info amongst other things).

Then there's sologne and her husband. Solonge is fine as hell, I could tap that ass all day every damn day. Bond beats her husband in a card game and wins his aston martin db5.
Bond kills him with dimitrius' wn knife, slick and stylishly infront of amy people at some skeleton's playing cards room or whatever....I cant think properly right now, I'm still buzzing.
The airport-bomb scene was nothing short of slick, explosions and bond doing a lot of running (he does that a lot in this movie which isn't a bad thing at all) As Bond pursues this cargo bomber he hangs on for dear life as the truck turns and swerves. As Bond is hanging to the side of the truck, he notices the bomb is attached to the underbelly of the truck.
Finally Bond has a serious altercation no doubt with the bomber inside the truck and just when you think the bomber is about to jump out of the truck, Bond repeatedly pulls him back in. Finally, the bomber gets out and Bond is left to steer an out control, oil-leaking truck away from the plane. The Police aprehend Bond and the bomber watches from the sidelines. The bomber pulls out the detonator and presses the button BUt he hears the beeping sound and its too close for comfort for him, realising that the Bomb had been removed from under the truck, he finds the bomb attached to the back of his belt and looks at an apprehended Bond. Bond smiles at him and the bomber is fittingly blown into bits.

Vesper is stunning but not in a casual sexy way but more a, sexy-classical way. The pshyco analysis Bond and Vesper trade with each other regarding the sort of person they each were and their background was classic. Both gave as good as they got.
Both Bond and Vesper reach the hotel but Vesper is p1ssed at Bond because he used his real name to book in as opposed to the fake ID's they were given but Bond insists it doesn't matter. Vesper tells Bond that LeChiffre will know that Bond is reckless and proceeds into the elevator byherself, forbidding Bond to go in with her because there isn't space for her and his ego. Nice. Meanwhile Bond gets a package and proceeds to a slick, beautiful Aston Martin. Inside the glove compartment is a gun and some med-kits and whatnot. Bond goes inside the hotel and hands over to vesper a sexy dress, a tool which he wants her to wear to distract the other poker players. Vesper has left a dinner suit on Bond's bed in which he protests he already has 1 but moments later he's wearing the suit Vesper gave him and checks himself out in the mirror.

The game card game begins....Bond wants a drink and tells the barman the ingredients of what to include in his drink. Suddenly everyone else playing much to LeChiffre's frustration wants the exact same drink, lol quite a funny scene. Later Vesper shows up, kisses James and then goes over and sits with Mathis. Time for a break. LeChifre and his chic go into their room and are nabbed by the guys who LeChifre *****ed up heir money. One guy has a machette and badly want to use it and tells LeChiffre's chick to stick her arm out. Bond and Vesper hear the screaming but the goons come out before Bond can do anything and for Vesper to reach the stares to move away from the area. So, Bond and Vesper act as though they're making out against a wall and then 1 of the guys try to blast Bond in the back of the head but naturally Bond shifts out of the way thus, the stairwell fight takes place. Gritty, Brutal and Bloody are the words to describe this fight. Bond chockes the last guy to death whilst vesper had struggled to move the gun away from the chokee's hand.
Bond and Vesper sit in a shower as Bond sucks her fingers to "clean" her hands because she couldn't get the blood off. Very touching and powerful stuff.
To cut the card game short, Bond loses money after analysing LeChiffre in which he notices his eye bleeds when he's bluffing. Bond tells Vesper and Mathis but you find out later Mathis tells LeChiffre and thats how LeChiffre beat Bond. Anyway, Vesper doesn't stake Bond in again and a rather funny by scene takes place in which Bond acts a little childish by mumbling something to vesper and she's like, "What"? and Bond says, "I said you're a bloody idiot" and then storms off. Bond meets Felix Leiter and he doesn't want Bond to quit and agrees to stake him in as long as the CIA take in LeChiffre. Bond agrees But LeChiffre isn't happy. Bond gets a drink and when he sips it, he goes all weird-looking, like he's having a fit and is about to explode. Bond stumbles out of the casino, almost getting mowed over by speeding cars, makes his way into the Aston Martin and contacts MI6. He's been poisoned. Bond is about to have 1 serious heart attack and is given instructions to remedee the problem, he only has seconds to live. Bond opens up the glove compartment and taks out this blue syringe and sticks it into the vein in his neck and he has that heart-jumpstarter thing that he needs to attach and then presses he red button before he passes out. Bond epeatedly presses the red button but nothing's happening, Bond isn't going to make it. One of the wires isn't inserted into the heart-jumpstart and before Bond can do anything, he passes out......

Seconds later esper shoes up, inserts the red wire and presses the button. Bond comes to and acts as though nothing bad happened and even asks vesper if she is ok. Bond's attitude to his own life is strange, weird and quite humourous. Bond refuses to go to the hospital and gets back into the game. LeChiffre is shocked to see Bond much less Bond looking so well. Anyway Bond wins the money, LeChiffre is p1ssed and walks out. Bond and Vesper have dinner to celebrate Bond's victory, Vesper gets an alledged call from Mathis. Bond realises a little too late that its some sort of trap, Bond tries to find vesper and sees her being shoved into a car. Bond chases after the car and then dives into his beautiful Aston Martin. The AM gets *****ed as Bond swerevs away to avoid running over vesper who is tied up, lying on the road. Bond and vesper are both shoved into LeChiffre's car, Bond who was barely conscious passes out in the car.

Bond is stripped from his clothing. 1 guy cuts out the seat part from a chair. LeChifre wastes little time getting down to business. He wants the password and account number so he can get the money back that he owes. LeChiffre gets a rope and goes to town on Bond's balls. IT WAS PAINFUL!!

Bond cries out in agony, his screams are deafening. Bond then tries to wind up LeChiffre by telling him he has an itch and that if he didn't mind....LeChiffre starts whacking away. Bond bares the obvious pain, gritting his teeth and cryng out. His cries soon turn to tortourous laughter, goading LeChiffre to wack him on the other side of his balls. LeChifre is really p1ssed and knows he's getting nowhere with Bond. Bond laughs at him saying that, Lechiffre is going to die scratching Bond's balls. LeChiffre is confused as to why Bond thinks lechiffre is going to die because the present situation dictates that if anything lechiffre is not in any position to be killed. Bond explains that lechiffre wont get the money and that lechiffre's crditors will kill lechiffre. He has nowhere to hide. Lechiffre clearly knows Bond is right but fails to accept such a thing and tells Bond that he's going to cut his balls off and feed them to him. LeChiffre kicks the chair over, with Bond now on his back on the floor and then gun shots interrupt lechiffre's planned testicular surgery. A gunman walks out of where vesper and her captors were held and lechifre is scared ****less, begging him to spare his life, that he'll have the money. Lechiffre gets a bullet to the brain end of.

Bond momentarily regains consciousness, he's in a hospital, he calls out for vesper but then passes out. Bond wakes up again, he's in a wheel chair outside ina garden with Mathis. The conversation doesn't last long because 2 guys come up and use a teaser on Mathis. Vesper and Bond are happy and in love. Bond resigns from MI6. They give the code and password to some swiss guy who'll transfer the money, all is good.

Later vesper goes off to extract the money. Bond gets a call from M saying that the money hasn't reached the account. Something's not right. Bond calls up the swiss guy and the swiss guy tells him whats happening at that the money is being withdrawn as they speak by vesper. Bond races over to the bank. Vesper is nowhere to be seen. Bond finally sees her and folows her. Bond blasts some look-out goon in the side of his head but is later spotted by the guy who vesper's giving the money to. The guy takes vesper hostage and says come out or she dies and bond coldly replies, "let me" a shoot out takes ensues. What I like about Bond in this movie is that there's no "A-team" style of shooting. Bond doesn't shoot for the sake of shooting, wasting ammo and bullets, he knows what he's doing, hits his targets, he's a smart shooter. Another brutal fight/shootout takes place, Bond gets shot in the shoulder with a nail gun and then shoots the guy who was going to be given the money in his eye with the same nail gun. Vesper has betrayed Bond and cant forgive herself and allows herself to die, trapped in a sunken elevator. Bond was lied to, betrayed, heart broken, used and has now been robbed of genuine affection and emotion. He trusts nobody.

M calls Bond. Se offers him more time away from work but Bond wants to go back to work straight away. "Why do I need more time? I got the job done the ***** is dead". Bond finds out that Vesper had been comprmised. Her husband or boyfriend was being held captive and she needed to cooperate with the bad guys in order to save his life. We also find out that vesper made a deal with them to spare hers and Bond's life when they came and killed leChiffre. Vesper left Bond one last gift. Mr White. White had taken the money.

White recieves a phone call, "hello, who is this"? As he walks, you hear an ear-piercing gun shot. White gets shot in the leg. He's on the floor and is crawling to some steps. A man with nice shoes is walking up those steps and as the camera pans out you see Bond wearing a slick (the mother of all suits) suit, holding a bigass gun.

"The name's Bond......Jamess Bond"

BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Enter Bond theme tune.

I could have cried with happiness after watching this movie. It was beautiful and well acted out. Daniel Craig is the best thing that happened to the Bond franchise since TSWL. Make no mistake, he's here to stay and all the naysayers can go ***** themselves. Craig takes the pain and dishes out. This is 1 bond you could put in a ring with Bauer and Bourne and know that Bond can batter the living day lights out of them. Bond throughout this movie never gives up and keeps going. He's relentless. This movie shows Bond growing and acquiring the tastes and attitude we usually see him display. He's reckless, resourceful, cool, smart and egotistical BUt he is still human. He gets upset, makes mistakes and gets told off alot by M. I'm glad that Bond recognised how M was treating him and even calls her, mum as he leaves her apartment. Go see this movie now, its easily movie of the year and you'll be pleased.
I might just go and see it again tonight, I cant wait for tomorrow to see it again.
This movie has been well worth the wait and if you call yourself a Bond fan and think this movie sucks, my opinion is that you know nothing about Bond and you can sit there and clutch onto your TWINE's and DADs.

Babs, Wilson and Craig have delivered bring on Bond 22 dammit!!!

The movie gets 9.5/10 because it should have been longer.

[pointman]

Call me crazy, but I don't want to see a dark, broody James Bond. I don't like where the character seems to be going in Casino Royale. Why does every hero now-a-days have to be the dark, troubled, hero? I mean, even Superman for Godsake caught that syndrome.

CR is THE Bond movie. This is nothing like Dalton's movies, if you love Jmaes Bond, you'll love this movie.

[Matt]

So what studio hired you Pointman? ;)

[pointman]

Hey, if the price is right I'll work for any studio and be their pr spokesperson.

[November Rain]

well after seeing what he could do in the thomas crown affair (which is pretty much a crazy low level end bond-esque film), then perhaps


unfortunately the franchise was going downa bad path, he was simply playing the right character at the wrong time...

[regwec]

I didn't like Brosnan at all. Of the other Bonds, he resembled Roger Moore the most: old, stiff, foppish and too self regarding. He also lacked sufficient natural charm to prevent his lewder double entendres sounding anything other than sickly and boorish.

I did like Golden Eye but, as with Boromir and Aragorn, I kept feeling that Sean Bean was playing the wrong guy.

[LastSunrise1981]

Meh, I got over Pierce the minute it was confirmed he wasn't coming back. In his defense it's not his fault the product got more retarded with each film.

So far from the reviews of Casino Royale it seems Craig nails the part and is up there with Connery, which is fine by me. :up: :up:

[Ultimate_Superman]

Totally. Everyone knows the RCP-90 was pure awesome :)Your wrong it was the mines setting traps everywhere was pure magic.

[Warhammer]

Brosnan will always be my favorite Bond because he is the Bond that I grew up with. Technically, Dalton was Bond when I was born, but I don't count him. Dalton was good too, IMO.

I have faith in Craig, though.
Reviews are sounding great in his favor, besides, Casino Royale comes out tomorrow, so judgment shouldn't be placed on Craig yet.

[pointman]

CR came out on Tuesday here in London at selected cinemas but officially came out today. I pre-judged, have judged and passed judgement and my comments have all been the same, Craig owns this role and CR is an awesome movie.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Brosnan was a great Bond, and some of the people who hate him (on this board, esp.) haven't seen his films and blindly defend Casino Royale to their deaths.

Unlike Craig, Brosnan is sophisticated looking, darkly, and OVER 6 ft tall. He was a great Bond, however unfortunately his movies after Goldeneye get worse and worse. Halle Berry and Denise Richards being Bond girls is proof enough of that.

I am giving Craig and Casino Royale a chance though.

[Majik1387]

I didn't mind Denise Richards as a Bond girl, but some Nuclear scientist I just couldn't believe. I believed Tara Reid in Alone in the Dark more than I believed Denise Richards.

[Crimson_L]

I liked Pierce Brosnan as Bond for awhile but when my parents introduced me to the original, Sean Connery he was my favorite. I still like Pierce Brosnan but for some reason seeing him leave I just don't care at all...

[regwec]

Brosnan was a great Bond, and some of the people who hate him (on this board, esp.) haven't seen his films and blindly defend Casino Royale to their deaths.
Well, I did. And he underwhelmed me throughout.

Unlike Craig, Brosnan is sophisticated looking,
I don't understand the notion that somebody can look innately sophisticated. One can dress or behave in a sophisticated manner, but it isn't genetic. Brosnan certainly looked feminine and (in his last film, at least) very old, but I don't think that prettiness and sophistication are the same thing. Daniel Craig at least sounds sophisticated, whilst Brosnan sounded like an Irish peasant.

OVER 6 ft tall.
I think this is an even feebler form of commendation than hair colour. Does it honestly make even the barest difference whether an actor is an inch over or under an arbitery measure of height? These things are almost indetectable on screen, anyway.

Having re-read my post, I realise that I now sound like an arse. But I can't be bothered to rephrase: just rest assured that I intend no offence to you. Only Brosnan.

[pointman]

Brosnan was a great Bond, and some of the people who hate him (on this board, esp.) haven't seen his films and blindly defend Casino Royale to their deaths.

Unlike Craig, Brosnan is sophisticated looking, darkly, and OVER 6 ft tall. He was a great Bond, however unfortunately his movies after Goldeneye get worse and worse. Halle Berry and Denise Richards being Bond girls is proof enough of that.

I am giving Craig and Casino Royale a chance though.

Your comments about sophistication and being 6ft is absurd. You havn't seen the movie and clearly dont know what this movie is about. See the evidence before you start criticising.
Brosnan imo wasn't great he was just good. Mnay people hated Dalton's movies because they were a departure from the usual mood of what Bond had set and established and with the 6 year gap Brosnan then exploded onto the screen bringing a return to the Bond people were used to. Again this is just my opinion of course but GE is clearly Brosnan's best Bond movie and that movie is ridiculously overrated. Brosnan brought nothing new, he was merely a latter day roger moore with cheesier entendres. I dont hate him but I couldn't take him too seriously, he came off as trying to hard to be Bond where as Connery and Craig were Bond. I've seen every single Bond movie multiple times, I own all 20 released movies and after seeing CR they hype I had fro Craig and this movie is more than justified. Craig has offered to the Bond franchise something that Brosnan has never managed to do.
Go and see CR you'll love it.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Your comments about sophistication and being 6ft is absurd. You havn't seen the movie and clearly dont know what this movie is about. See the evidence before you start criticising.
Brosnan imo wasn't great he was just good. Mnay people hated Dalton's movies because they were a departure from the usual mood of what Bond had set and established and with the 6 year gap Brosnan then exploded onto the screen bringing a return to the Bond people were used to. Again this is just my opinion of course but GE is clearly Brosnan's best Bond movie and that movie is ridiculously overrated. Brosnan brought nothing new, he was merely a latter day roger moore with cheesier entendres. I dont hate him but I couldn't take him too seriously, he came off as trying to hard to be Bond where as Connery and Craig were Bond. I've seen every single Bond movie multiple times, I own all 20 released movies and after seeing CR they hype I had fro Craig and this movie is more than justified. Craig has offered to the Bond franchise something that Brosnan has never managed to do.
Go and see CR you'll love it.

I hope you earned your paycheck from the studios with your posts. Isn't it time for you to go water yourself?

Let me explain something to you, my photosynthetic friend, I criticized what I could without seeing the movie, based SOLELY on his appearance which many people have rightfully done so. Bond's appearance is extremely important, and will be scrutinized before the movie itself is seen.

Also, I guess in all of your foliage-flinging, you overlooked my last statement. Let me repeat for you:

I am giving Craig and Casino Royale a chance though.

[pointman]

Good. Give Craig a chance but prior to the movies release I saw the sophistication and the charm and as for his height and darkened hair issues, its not a problem. Its actually a stupid reason for someone to still use after seeing the movie. I hope you enjoy the movie, if you are a bondd fan it wont dissapoint but if your a Brosnan drone, you'll be too chocked up on Brosnan's absence from the movie.

[GoldGoblin]

007's not supposed to be under 6-feet tall either.

Anyhow, I liked Brosnan well enough as Bond, but felt that GoldenEye was the only Bond film that was really good for him. The other 3 he did felt very poor in comparison to the first one and seemed to just coast along on his ability to be Bond but without giving him a more solid story.

^Yep,I agree.

[KenK]

So can we agree that Brosnan simply needed better films?

'Cause I think most would agree, from the time Bronsan gained notariety for Remington Steele, it was a no-brainer that he'd one day be Bond. Hell, he'd have been Bond a decade earlier if not for his committment to that show. I will always say, though, Tomorrow Never Dies was good. I thought the idea of the villain being a journalist concocting a war through the press was a novel approach.

[LastSunrise1981]

Pierce was the one who kept on screaming about wanting to leave anyways.

[KenK]

Pierce was the one who kept on screaming about wanting to leave anyways.

I think it more had to do with the studio constantly giving him the runaround. He would have gladly done another film, but he kept hearing that he was gonna be replaced, then hearing that they wanted him back.

[pointman]

Well sony aren't losing any sleep over it and rightfully so too.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

I miss him alot. To me he was THE Bond along with Roger Moore. I like and respect Sean alot but not as Bond. And unfortunatly I think Craig (who doesn't convince me one bit as Bond) who again I also like and respect as an actor is gonna follow that line of performance.
I also didn't like how they fired Pierce from the franchise. So I'll probably pass on this one, at least on the theaters anyway...
And I wouldn't be surprised that just like Superman Returns the 007 producers are gonna have their payback in terms of low box office profit.

[LostSon88]

Even though Casino Royale is getting universal praise across the boards?!

Why not just give the movie a shot? :huh:

[Cаrter]

More than half of the front page of the NY Daily News is covered by Bond
3 1/2 stars

[blind_fury]

3 1/2 out of 4 or 5?

[Movies205]

I bought the two volumes of James Bond, and when you watch the films objectively, you quickly realized how deluded James Bond fans are especially those who pledge allegiance to a specific Bond. "Timothy Dalton is a ***" ... "Pierce Brosnan was metrosexual and a pansy", etc... What's really even funnier is how godlike people make Sean Connery out to be... When in actuallity every Bond has unique qualities that were good and bad. I just watched Tommorrow Never Dies and Goldeneye, I can say I prefer Tommorrow Never Dies simply because it's more fun and that it gelled more with Pierce's style than did Goldeneye. For all those who say that Pierce never got any good movies, blah blah it simply the flavor of his nature in the same way that Timothy Dalton was a stern and realistic bond, and Roger Moore was tongue in cheek. In many ways Pierce harkened back to Sean Connery which was silly yet it still touch based with realism and the character was played with dignity. I'm got Diamonds are Forever next up... Then I need to get around to World is Not Enough and DIe ANother Day... But I tend to appriciate all the bonds for what they bring to the table. And as for Casino Royale it's a different approach, and in another 10 years we'll probably be back to where we are now, bickering over the new bond and how cool Craig was...

[BloodyWolverine]

I think Pierce leaving likely came down to this. In his love scenes with Berry he looks alot older. I think the prodcuers likely wanted a fitter Bond for another set of movies. I liked Pierces humor as Bond he had the joke timing down good with Q. I hope Q and Moneypenny will be in 22nd movie and we will get into more bond things. Maybe then Craig will grow on people.

[Movies205]

I think Pierce leaving likely came down to this. In his love scenes with Berry he looks alot older. I think the prodcuers likely wanted a fitter Bond for another set of movies. I liked Pierces humor as Bond he had the joke timing down good with Q. I hope Q and Moneypenny will be in 22nd movie and we will get into more bond things. Maybe then Craig will grow on people.

Craig has already grown on people... Just look at the latest story on SHH! and the reviews... People were weary a year ago but due to the intense media coverage it's been getting all year, people have warmed up to him... Hell I started liking Craig out of sympathy for all the **** he had to put up with cuz of ***** who ptu up that boycott site, they did the exact opposite of what they wanted to accomplished.

[pointman]

I miss him alot. To me he was THE Bond along with Roger Moore. I like and respect Sean alot but not as Bond. And unfortunatly I think Craig (who doesn't convince me one bit as Bond) who again I also like and respect as an actor is gonna follow that line of performance.
I also didn't like how they fired Pierce from the franchise. So I'll probably pass on this one, at least on the theaters anyway...
And I wouldn't be surprised that just like Superman Returns the 007 producers are gonna have their payback in terms of low box office profit.

Have you even seen the connery movies??
CR will do better than SR, wait and see the movie 1st. I have and I'll tell you this movie anihalates every Bond movie since TSWL.

[Backdrifter]

After watching Casino Royale, I don't miss Brosnan. In fact, I don't miss any of the other Bonds. Craig is the new standard for Bond, as far as I am concerned.

[xwolverine2]

oh god.... i laugh at brosnan now..... :(

CASINO ROYALE WAS AWESOMENESs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[regwec]

I miss him alot. To me he was THE Bond along with Roger Moore.
That pretty much sums it up: people who like Bond as a bone-breaking assassin with a taste for luxury will tend to like Connery and Craig; people who prefer a prettier, stiffer Bond with more reliance on hardware will prefer the Moore/Brosnan construct.

[Mike059jig]

Golden Eye IMO was one of the best bond movies I've ever seen and its one of my favorite movies!!!!...

But Sadly after that the movies just got bad the cars and the chicks were all good though...

Casino Royale is a reboot I hear...so maybe craig will carry the banner

whats this im hearin about a POTC 3 teaser trailer???

[The Chairman]

While I do love Brosnan, I'm now anxious to give Craig a chance, especially since Casino Royale is said to be utterly awesome.

[KenK]

Oh, Craig's the man!! But I do think Brosnan could have done just as good with the same material. Although Craig does benefit from having an unconventional look. He has to work that much harder. Brosnan never had to really work to be Bond. He had essentially been Bond on Remington Steele.

[Warhammer]

I'm seeing Casino Royale somewhere between tomorrow and Tuesday.
With all of the buzz that it's getting, I know Daniel Craig and Martin Campbell didn't let the people down.

[Chaos Bringer]

[quote=KenK]So can we agree that Brosnan simply needed better films?[quote]

Nope.
Nothing is going to top Craig's brutal way of dealing with scenarios. THIS is exactly what it might be like if a spy had to sort stuff out. His quick and ruthless reactions or problem solving is what it's all about. No drama. No funny faces. No dumbed out one liners. Just kill. That's much more realistic than anything Brosnan was given to do. There's more. The obvious. Craig would kick the living snot out of Brosnan in a fight one on one. In fact, Craig would take out any of the previous Bonds.
I would have no issue getting into the ring with Brosnan, Moore, Dalton...but Craig. That guy is fit and ready top rock.

Oh and by the way-this classic Bond many of you say is missed isn't missed at all. The dumbed one liners. The suave stupid cold war wastoid turkey, the paint by numbers action scenes, actors playing basa$$e$ but who couldn't box their way into reality if they could act... The Producers don't miss it, the financial backers don't miss it, the audience doesn't miss it(just check out Box office mojo on Mon. morn), you're alone...good bye 'old' Bond. Hello CR and DCraig. I'm locked in for future releases.

[xwolverine2]

ive seen the movie twice already....

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Oh and by the way-this classic Bond many of you say is missed isn't missed at all. The dumbed one liners. The suave stupid cold war wastoid turkey, the paint by numbers action scenes, actors playing basa$$e$ but who couldn't box their way into reality if they could act... The Producers don't miss it, the financial backers don't miss it, the audience doesn't miss it(just check out Box office mojo on Mon. morn), you're alone...good bye 'old' Bond. Hello CR and DCraig. I'm locked in for future releases.

Wow, glad you can speak for everyone. We all thank you for lumping our opinion into yours!


:whatever::whatever:

[DACrowe]

I enjoyed Brosnan emmnsley as Bond. He only had two good entries though. But hey no one *****es that at least 2 (arguably 3) of Connery's movies were duds (Diamonds Are Forever, You Only Live Twice and the questionable Thunderball).

Craig was a tougher son of a *****, but Brosnan was smoother and gave the most complex Bond to date when he performed the role. He wanted to go deeper but hte producers wouldn't let him. I wish they had given him one more back in 2004 to go out on in a much darker tone. He obviously wanted to go there in all his movies and gave a great performance.

Some may dislike Brosnan, but I find it is mostly because he was too handsome and not enough about his performance. I think he nailed James Bond for his interpretation and is the best since Connery. Craig may top him, but he hasn't yet in my opinion though.

[DACrowe]

P.S. Brosnan was amazing in a film just as good as CR in GE. Now imgaine (though I hop;e this is not the case) Craig does 3 more Bond movies. One is decent with poorly shot action (TWINE) but a good story. However the other two are mindless shoot 'em ups that are way over the top.

Would y'all stil lbe praising how good of an actor Craig was through the thick and thin or would you turn on him as quickly as Brosnan went from "Best since Connery" to "pretty boy metrosexual who was never convincing."

It isn't the preference of Craig it is the sheer fanboy bandwagonism that annoys me now. :rolleyes:

[LastSunrise1981]

P.S. Brosnan was amazing in a film just as good as CR in GE. Now imgaine (though I hop;e this is not the case) Craig does 3 more Bond movies. One is decent with poorly shot action (TWINE) but a good story. However the other two are mindless shoot 'em ups that are way over the top.

Would y'all stil lbe praising how good of an actor Craig was through the thick and thin or would you turn on him as quickly as Brosnan went from "Best since Connery" to "pretty boy metrosexual who was never convincing."

It isn't the preference of Craig it is the sheer fanboy bandwagonism that annoys me now. :rolleyes:

Sounds to be you're bitter about those having a difference of opinion.

I'll say it again. CRAIG IS BOND. In MY opinion, he is better than Connery and Brosnan combined.

[Warhammer]

P.S. Brosnan was amazing in a film just as good as CR in GE. Now imgaine (though I hop;e this is not the case) Craig does 3 more Bond movies. One is decent with poorly shot action (TWINE) but a good story. However the other two are mindless shoot 'em ups that are way over the top.

Would y'all stil lbe praising how good of an actor Craig was through the thick and thin or would you turn on him as quickly as Brosnan went from "Best since Connery" to "pretty boy metrosexual who was never convincing."

It isn't the preference of Craig it is the sheer fanboy bandwagonism that annoys me now. :rolleyes:

Some people do judge Brosnan based on the movie he was in, not his performance. IMO, Brosnan was an amazing Bond. He was just playing the right role in the wrong movies, except for Goldeneye.

I actually did like TWINE, and the car sequence in TND was great.

[regwec]

P.S. Brosnan was amazing in a film just as good as CR in GE. Now imgaine (though I hop;e this is not the case) Craig does 3 more Bond movies. One is decent with poorly shot action (TWINE) but a good story. However the other two are mindless shoot 'em ups that are way over the top.

Would y'all stil lbe praising how good of an actor Craig was through the thick and thin or would you turn on him as quickly as Brosnan went from "Best since Connery" to "pretty boy metrosexual who was never convincing."

It isn't the preference of Craig it is the sheer fanboy bandwagonism that annoys me now. :rolleyes:

I have liked Daniel as an actor for years and years. That's why I always saw his potential in the role. I am not on a bandwagon; I already arrived in Craigtown on the Left-field Express, several years ago.

I must say that I find the assertion that Brosnan played the "most complex" Bond rather strange. His approach was clearly more two dimensional than not only Craig's, but Lazenby's and Dalton's. They both portrayed a cold but vulnerable orphan. Brosnan just played a kind of blank-canvas that was adorned with suits, gadgets and other paraphernalia. He had potential for a dramatic tour-de-force on the occassion of Paris Carver's death, but it didn't come accross at all.

[jaydawg]

I liked Craig, but I just couldn't get past the fact that he looks nothing like any Bond before. The thing about Brosnan was that he got the short end of the stick in terms of movies. They never knew what to do with him aside from pimp out some brand, like Erickson mobile or BMW.

[Golgo-13]

After seeing Caino Royale, i don't really miss Brosnon, although he is one of my favorite Bonds in looks and style, his movies sucked.

[The Last Meatbag]

Appearance wise, I don't look at Craig as Bond...however, I'm going to give him a chance to wow me in Casino Royale...

[Cinemaman]

I didn't like him.

He was too pretty and I didn't find there anything close to real agent 007.

Bond shoul look like a man, who saw a lot in his life. He should always look good, but with some wounds and effective look of very mysterious character.

Only Connery and Craig (even if I was disappointed in CR) showed me this.

[TheVileOne]

I certainly don't miss the smarmy bed-hopper.

[BloodyWolverine]

Sounds to be you're bitter about those having a difference of opinion.

I'll say it again. CRAIG IS BOND. In MY opinion, he is better than Connery and Brosnan combined.
I'm sorry he is not a Connery for he has done one film. Lets see if he can further do Bond justice in Bond 22. This producers need to wake up. The characters worked in Casino Royale but the fans will boycott if they leave out Q and Moneypenny in all the Craig movies. I'm sorry but Bond's banter with Q and Moneypenny was part of Bond. They can get a younger Q and M. Although Samantha Bond was a great Moneypenny.

[TheVileOne]

Q and Moneypenny are not essential to Bond and Casino Royale was fine without it. The story did not call for them.

[Morgoth]

Brosnan was a great Bond. He's right up there with Connery.

Roger's okay, the more campy Bond, and the other two were meh, especially since one only did it once.:whatever:

This new Bond looks more like Bond Villian than Bond himself, but I'm growing to like him just because the more I see the commercials the more I want to see it, and because I love Bond, and I have to go see it when I'm off Wednesday.

I've seen them all but, I haven't ever seen one in the theater, except for the last one with Pierce, I saw it in a cheap theater in the mall, and that doesn't count. I need to go see it in a first run theater with a huge screen and a theater that doesn't feel like I'm sitting ina hallway with a tv on.:woot:

[Mentok]

Brosnan was good in GOLDENEYE... Everything after that was just bad.

[regwec]

It was definately his best film. The problem was that his career as 007 started with Timothy Brosnan and ended with Pierce Moore.

[Fanticon]

his time was up...I liked him as Bond...Goldeneye was one of my all time faves...but Craig was...is amazing...and he'll be appearing in Bond movies for the next decade. Get used to it.

[BloodyWolverine]

Q and Moneypenny are not essential to Bond and Casino Royale was fine without it. The story did not call for them.
I was meaning for one film it is fine to exclude them but you can't do 3 Craig Bond movies without parts of every single Bond from Connery to Brosnan. You can exclude them once. You may not agree and that is fine but for the 22nd and 23rd Bond films they have to have Q and Moneypenny. They are a part of Bond. Even though the guy who payed Q is dead.

[green]

Eh I never really liked Brosnan as Bond, this stems back from never really liking Remington Steele, so no I dont miss him at all.

[Chaos Bringer]

I certainly don't miss the smarmy bed-hopper.
me neither.
or the gadgets, or the uber thick one liners that winked at us with hopes we're as dumb as the script. CR was so tight on every level I cringe at previous Bond films just like I cringe at Burton's Batman.

[GoldenAgeHero]

burtons batman was awesome.

[Fran]

Brosnan was too much of a pansy for me.

Craig owns all except Connery.

[XwolverineX]

After seeing Craig as Bond, I could never see Pierce portray him again.

[DACrowe]

I like Craig as Bond A LOT. I was just mocking how quickly disfavor falls on the old. There was a time when many called Brosnan the best since Connery and now it's as if he was terrible in the role. There is a word for this.

With that said, I do not miss Brosnan and think it is fine Craig has taken over, I just want to see if Craig produces a few duds and is replaced in 10 years if he'll stil lbe popular. And yes, when GE came out I would say that is the most complex portrayal of Bond since OHMSS (which suffered from a poor Bond in Lazenby). Sure CR has taken it to the next level, I was merely stating what Brosnan brought to the role has been uncermoniously forgotten in some respects.

I like Craig in the role, it is just odd how a year ago everyone liked Brosnan here and now we see posts mostly say "Brosnan was too much of a sissy/metrosexual/pansy/[insert insult] to play Bond."

Whatever. The same people will most likely be bad mouthing Craig for hte new Bond in a decade then. :rolleyes:

[LastSunrise1981]

I like Craig as Bond A LOT. I was just mocking how quickly disfavor falls on the old. There was a time when many called Brosnan the best since Connery and now it's as if he was terrible in the role. There is a word for this.

With that said, I do not miss Brosnan and think it is fine Craig has taken over, I just want to see if Craig produces a few duds and is replaced in 10 years if he'll stil lbe popular. And yes, when GE came out I would say that is the most complex portrayal of Bond since OHMSS (which suffered from a poor Bond in Lazenby). Sure CR has taken it to the next level, I was merely stating what Brosnan brought to the role has been uncermoniously forgotten in some respects.

I like Craig in the role, it is just odd how a year ago everyone liked Brosnan here and now we see posts mostly say "Brosnan was too much of a sissy/metrosexual/pansy/[insert insult] to play Bond."

Whatever. The same people will most likely be bad mouthing Craig for hte new Bond in a decade then. :rolleyes:

Why are you bitter because someone prefers Craig over Connery?

I happened to LOVE the Connery, Moore, Dalton, Lazenby, and well, Pierce's only good Bond film was Goldeneye and the rest weren't his fault. So I'm not going to bash him because the material was given sucked.

But in MY OPINION, Craig surpasses Connery in everyway. If you don't like the difference of opinion, don't come to the forums or open that particular thread that may have a different thought.

No one is forgetting Brosnan. People are saying that as good as he was, his potential wasn't realized because the sequels after GE sucked horribly.

[Backdrifter]

DaD just left a bad taste in people's mouths. If DaD had never happed, I doubt Brosnan would not be getting this much undeserved ****. He had a good run, at least his Bond wasn't a complete joke like Roger Moore.

[Tojo]

I don't miss Brosnan but i would have been interested to see him him do one more after DAD. Something more serious and written by anyone other than Purvis And Wade.

But not for Casino Royale. I don't miss the gadgets either, and i don't miss Moneypenny, but i think since they are tradition they should be re-introduced. But the relationship with both should be witty and intelligent. Less clowning around and low-key gadgets(althoguh not sure a Q scene with low key gadgets would work?)

[batman7289]

i loved pierce as bond but craig kicked ass

[DACrowe]

Y'see I'm not defending Brosnan. Go ahead and prefer one over the other. But someone in this thread already said it best. By saying they compare it to not being able to stand Tim Burton's Batman and Keaton anymore now that BB is out.

I agree but from a diff. POV. I prefer Bale and Nolan, but what Burton did was revolutionary. He made comic books films serious and mature in theme. People no longer went "Pow and bam" with Batman. Keaton was great in the role and Nicholson WAS the Joker, etc. But now that something better and newer comes out it is "silly" and "outdated" and there is a need for fanboys not just to say they prefer the new movie but to state disdain for something they previously liked but like a kid with a new toy has now disgarded as old and weak.

It is a commentary on the mindset of some and the overall theme, just not Brosnan. I myself am not sure if I did prefer Craig over Brosnan. I think they were both quite good for different reasons. You say you are a fan of all the Bond movies and Brosnan's "one good one," well that is fair. I respect your opinion. I would say I think all of Dalton's movies (or rather both of them) were terrible and below TWINE standrads, but I'm sure you'd disagree.

I respect your opinion to do so. But you aren't jumping up and down after seeing CR saying "Craig is the best Bond ever" and "Brosnan was a pansy" or "Forget Sean Connery" and other such nonsense.

It is an annoyance of fanboy mindsets. Same as when SM2 was better therefore all other superhero movies are ****, including the popular SM1 and X2, which ahd just turned SM1 and X1 into crap. Then BB comes out and SM2 is no longer cool. It is the same mindset that when DD came out it was better than SM1 and B'89 (in a poll in 2003 B'89 lost 3 to 1 to DD on which was better). No one thinks that now. When X1 came out it was the first "really good movie, not a comic book movie," then when Spider-Man came out it was "the first really good movie, just not a superhero movie," but then the same was said about X2, Hulk, Spider-Man 2 and now Batman Begins is the first "really good mature movie, and not a silly comic book movie."

It is the simple ficklness and hypocracy that annoys me. I was just using the current example of those who once may have liked Brosnan to bash him as weak because the new toy just came off the shelf.

That is my point, not that Brosnan is better or wrose than Craig. I'm not sure either way and liked them both in the role. I was talking about the bandwagoning fans do and not the particulars of who is better. If I was to state my point of view I'd agree that Brosnan suffered from poor screenplays after Goldeneye, albeit TWINE was a helluva a lot better than half of Connery and Moore's shtick (I think DAF, YOLT, Moonraker, Octopussy, AVTAK were awful movies) and thought Dalton was as bland and dull as his films were.

You may disagree and that is fine. That wasn't what I was talking about. Fine though.

[Warhammer]

I love Brosnan to death, but as of now, Craig IS Bond.

[SLYspyder]

Casino Royale is the first time I've been excited enough to go see a James Bond movie.
and it paid off. This will definitely be the first James Bond movie I add to my DVD collection. This movie was absolutely amazing, and Daniel Craig made the movie.

He IS james Bond. Perfect acting and he brings such a sense of realism to the role. i salute him.

[Chaos Bringer]

happy feet beat it domestically at the BO but CR did over $80 million worldwide this weekend. That's great!

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

before casino royale..yes i did..

after..brosnan who?

[hippie_hunter]

After seeing Craig, I don't miss Pierce one bit :o

[BatJeff7786]

Pierce will always be my first Bond (Goldeneye was the first Bond I ever saw) But Craig is the Bond for the 21st century. I wish all the James Bond movies had the sense of scale that Casino Royale did. Can't wait for Bond 22!

[Darth Elektra]

Craig kicked ass.

[cryptic name]

Goldeneye was the first Bond I ever saw, so i will always have a soft spot for Pierce, he was a great Bond. But, Craig OWNS that role now. Casino Royale was simply incredible.

[Bishop2]

I definitely miss Brosnan. He had such an air about him. He had some REALLY bad movies, but he emoted fantastically - better than any other Bond, I'd say. And he had immediate charisma. He brought a definite strength to the role in the form of his own personality.

Casino Royale was great in the writing department, but Craig's portrayal was lacking... really, anything to make it distinct. He reminds me of George Lazenby - a personality-free face who's perfectly servicable, but in no way memorable. None of the immediate PRESENCE that the other Bonds uniquely brought to the role. Ironically, Lazenby and Craig can both claim to star in two of the best Bond movies to date, so... that's not really the end of the world.

[Agentsands77]

Daniel Craig IS James Bond.

Craig made the role his own in a way Brosnan never did. And, to be fair, was Brosnan was never really given that opportunity. But the bottom line is that Craig is absolutely fantastic.

[BloodyWolverine]

Pengiuns beat OO7 but Craig wins out globally as i expected. Casino was edged out by Happ Feet at the american box office but its a global hit and it will make more and more. Happy Feet and Casino Royale should make another good hall over the thanksgiving holiday and its weekend after that. I see Casino not edging out Happy Feet for its a kids movie. I say both will make a good buck but i doubt Casino will make Die Another Day american numbers. Simply because more peole were going in 2002.

[Tojo]

Whye were more people going in 2002. Was it because of the film itself or other factors?

I mean if people would rather watch DAD than CR then there is no hope for them, but maybe it's because of other things?

[regwec]

Well, the hype for DAD was better in the US, partly because a famous American actress more or less starred in it.

Casino Royale is, by all accounts (I still won't get a chance to see it until this weekend) a much better film in every way- but it is also a more "difficult" film. It has controversial (though excellent) casting, it is a reinvention, it is "stripped down" where DAD layed it on as thick as possible. There's an analogy to be made between Batman Begins and Batman and Robin.

The popularity of Happy Feet just shows that America's children need more red meat in their diets.

[Darknightnomis]

I miss Brosnan as Bond and I had hopd he got to do one more before they went with a "new" Bond. 5 movies would've been a great number of movies for him, 4 just seems like it's not enough.

After Sean Connery I thought he was the ideal look and style for Bond.

[Chaos Bringer]

Whye were more people going in 2002. Was it because of the film itself or other factors?

I mean if people would rather watch DAD than CR then there is no hope for them, but maybe it's because of other things?

Attendance is down. With BT & Renting people aren't hitting theatres the same way they used to.
Still, CR kicked so much Butt and as I posted several posts up it only took second place in NorthAm. It was #1 World Wide. So Happy Feet can do a backflip.

[DACrowe]

Oh and to answer the thread. No, I don't miss Brosnan. I thought he was a great Bond and I wish he had gotten one more in '04 that was more down to earth like this one as I think Brosnan's potrayal of 007 would have benefitted greatly from it, but by now he is too old and Craig was very good.

I won't say Craig was better than Brosnan....yet. But Craig was damn amazing. Not going to start bashing the old movies over it though. ;)

[SLYspyder]

Pengiuns beat OO7 but Craig wins out globally as i expected. Casino was edged out by Happ Feet at the american box office but its a global hit and it will make more and more. Happy Feet and Casino Royale should make another good hall over the thanksgiving holiday and its weekend after that. I see Casino not edging out Happy Feet for its a kids movie. I say both will make a good buck but i doubt Casino will make Die Another Day american numbers. Simply because more peole were going in 2002.


to make a fair comparison. this is the most any james bond movie with a new actor has made. and dad also starred halle berry.

And there is a huge possibility it could beat dad numbers. Attendance is not down, you make a quality movie, people will see it. Quite possibly, the great word of mouth could keep it at number 2 this coming weekend.

[Tojo]

Yeah i f-ukin hate bit torrent....and Happy Feet. No, really i hate those stupid kids who want to see happy feet. Go watch torture, sex and violence instead!

[The Joker]

I really loved Pierce as Bond. But after just seeing Daniel Craig as Bond, I don't miss Brosnan at all.

Craig owned the role IMO.

[DACrowe]

Also keep in mind that Craig got (unfair) bad buzz in the role as did CR. And it is a new Bond, DAD came out when for all intensive purposes Brosnan was James Bond to the massive public. Let the word of mouth spread and this will do fabulously well. Then when Craig's next picture comes out in '08, it will be received much better and between Craig now being accepted as Bond and inflation, it could have even bigger numbers than DAD then.

[Movies205]

To those who say pierce got bad movies:

I bought the two volumes of James Bond, and when you watch the films objectively, you quickly realized how deluded James Bond fans are especially those who pledge allegiance to a specific Bond. "Timothy Dalton is a ***" ... "Pierce Brosnan was metrosexual and a pansy", etc... What's really even funnier is how godlike people make Sean Connery out to be... When in actuallity every Bond has unique qualities that were good and bad. I just watched Tommorrow Never Dies and Goldeneye, I can say I prefer Tommorrow Never Dies simply because it's more fun and that it gelled more with Pierce's style than did Goldeneye. For all those who say that Pierce never got any good movies, blah blah it simply the flavor of his nature in the same way that Timothy Dalton was a stern and realistic bond, and Roger Moore was tongue in cheek. Pierce fit best in campy movies, just look at every movie he stars in MAtador, Remmington Steele(TV), After Sunset, etc... In many ways Pierce harkened back to Sean Connery which was silly yet it still touch based with realism and the character was played with dignity. I've got Diamonds are Forever next up... Then I need to get around to World is Not Enough and DIe ANother Day, which I've seen before but I need to watch again. But I tend to appriciate all the bonds for what they bring to the table. And as for Casino Royale it's a different approach, and in another 10 years we'll probably be back to where we are now, bickering over the new bond and how cool Craig was...

[Jolie_Desastre]

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[Jolie_Desastre]

before casino royale..yes i did..

after..brosnan who?

exactly ^^

[Frodo]

I saw CR and I gotta say , I still prefer Brosnan. However , I thought Craig did well. I hope that they will give Craig more leeway to make the role his own. I felt that he was stiff at the beginning but once Vesper came into the picture, he began to shine . Actually, what made CR for me was Eva Green. She brought such a humanity to the film . She had such a tenderness to her which I've never felt in any of the previous Bond women . It's her performance that I've taken away from the film .

[Bishop2]

Actually, what made CR for me was Eva Green. She brought such a humanity to the film . She had such a tenderness to her which I've never felt in any of the previous Bond women . It's her performance that I've taken away from the film .

Totally agreed.

Craig was just too generic to me... even when he's giving the "I have no armor left" speed, he can't even muster a different facial expression from his previous "I kill you now" scenes. Even when he's being tortured or dying, he just looks MOIST and talks LOUDER, but his face barely seems to crack as he yells. It's bizarre. But Eva Green was fantastic.

But yeah, I miss Brosnan's ability to emote. The way he seemed so hurt by the death of Teri Hatcher or the way Elektra King's betrayal actually bothered him. The giddy grin in the backseat of the BMW while he used the remote control car. The way he would react to experience real, physical pain. He had more range. But this new version of Bond isn't really supposed to have range - he's supposed to be cold, hard and remote. And Craig IS very cold and remote, but it's a hard transition.

[DorkyFresh]

Even when he's being tortured or dying, he just looks MOIST and talks LOUDER, but his face barely seems to crack as he yells.

are you blind or somethin' dude? that's some bias if i've ever read any. i liked Pierce when he was in the role, but give credit where credit is due man...

...that torture scene ALONE was more acting that anything Pierce ever did in any of his Bond movies (sans Goldeneye).

[Bishop2]

are you blind or somethin' dude? that's some bias if i've ever read any. i liked Pierce when he was in the role, but give credit where credit is due man...

...that torture scene ALONE was more acting that anything Pierce ever did in any of his Bond movies (sans Goldeneye).

Okay, you're right, I'm not being fair. While I was watching that scene, I kept thinking that Brosnan conveyed more pain and anguish when he was being tortured in TWINE - hell, even when someone would hit him in his bad shoulder, he seemed to be hurting worse. However, I think part of what was really bugging me was the fact that, clearly, Daniel Craig has never been hit in the balls.

Sounds silly I know, but did you ever see On Deadly Ground? For your sake, I hope not. It's a Steven Seagal movie, which tells you right away that it's awful, but it was also written and directed by Seagal, which makes it HILARIOUSLY bad. There's a scene where he kicks a couple of guys in the crotch in a bar, and they scream "MY NUTS!" or "MY BALLS!" at their top of their lungs when it happens...

It's hilarious, and I never quite understood why until reading a review of the movie online years later. It's something everyone who's ever had the misfortune to be hit in the balls knows - the first thing you lose is all the air out of your lungs, almost before you feel the pain shooting through you and up your back. You're left gasping and unable to vocalize. SCREAMING? It's just silly as hell. Really, Craig should've been gasping, shaking, then whispering his dialogue. That would've been effective.

I know what you're thinking - that seems pretty damn picky, but man, you'd think no filmmakers on this Earth had ever been hit in the balls or somethin'. :p

[BloodyWolverine]

Are you guys forgetting the Die Another Day opening credits were arund a torture scene. That was Brosnans best performance for Bond.

[Bishop2]

Are you guys forgetting the Die Another Day opening credits were arund a torture scene. That was Brosnans best performance for Bond.

Did we really see him much during those credits? It seemed like the credits were more concerned with the girls torturing him and the scorpions.

[Speedball]

Who's Pierce Brosnan and why is he mentioned in a James Bond thread? LOL! No...He's now the third best. His best performance for me was in Everything or Nothing.

[KenK]

Who's Pierce Brosnan and why is he mentioned in a James Bond thread? LOL! No...He's now the third best. His best performance for me was in Everything or Nothing.

That game rocks exponentially! Good graphics, and GREAT gameplay! I was addicted to it for months!!

Are you guys forgetting the Die Another Day opening credits were arund a torture scene. That was Brosnans best performance for Bond.

I think a lot of people's disappointment towards DAD comes from the fact that this scene gave you the impression that it was gonna treat the rest of the film radically different from other Bond films. Usually, Bond makes his escape with a smile, and cue the opening. So it was a nice change to see Bond NOT get away. But after about ten minutes, it's business as usual, and it's like it didn't even matter than he had been in a North Korean prison for 18 months.

[regwec]

...matters weren't helped by Brosnan sucking the gut in, either.

[Bishop2]

...matters weren't helped by Brosnan sucking the gut in, either.

I think that's just in your mind. :oldrazz:

[DorkyFresh]

It's something everyone who's ever had the misfortune to be hit in the balls knows - the first thing you lose is all the air out of your lungs, almost before you feel the pain shooting through you and up your back. You're left gasping and unable to vocalize. SCREAMING? It's just silly as hell.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZnfwQkAUHz8

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vUWVm7DLSLQ

you were saying?

I think that's just in your mind. :oldrazz:
go watch DAD again. you can see him with his gut tucked in and his chest out when he walks into the lobby in just his pants and unkept hair.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Brosnan is my 2nd fav after Connery but yeah, he was the "heaviest" of his Bond career in DAD.

[Lazlo Panaflex]

Daniel Craig while not a handsome dude sure pulled off the James Bond character, and it was fun actually seeing real fist fights instead of fancy gadgets.

[BloodyWolverine]

Why can't you have gadgets and physical encounters. I can't help it but i like the gadget's and the Q aspect of the Bond films. Thats one of those classic things i liked about these Bond spy movies. The car was a bit over blown in DAD with the weapons but the invisble car was cool. I liked the smaller gadgets per say. I am simply meaning to have lower keyd gadgets not per say a flying car for Bond 22nd.

[LastSunrise1981]

I truly feel those who say Craig wasn't a brilliant actor in this has no idea what they're talking about. Bond, as a whole, while being tortured by having his balls beaten mustered up courage and attitude to show no matter what he wasn't going to break.

He screamed, he winced, shuddered, and passed out after the torture.

In real life a male would've passed out after the first or second hit.

In closing? I think it's mostly nitpicking and they want to be in the crowd by saying "Craig sucked and I miss Brosnan".

Craig> Brosnan. Craig is Bond, get over it.

[jimmylace]

I may be alone on this but does anyone miss Pierce Brosnan as James Bond for i really thaught he was the ideal Bond. But no the producers had to piss Pierce off. He may come back like Sean did but i doubt it.

I will give Craig a chance and i am glad to see the Goldeye director back doing Bond. But no Moneypenny or Q really stinks. Unless Bond was there before them but i doubt it. Maybe he had to do this mission to get to the gadget room.

Many don't think Dench should be M but thats not a big problem but for a prequel i could see Anthony Hopkins, John Hurt, Sam Neil or Patrick Stewart as M. My dream M would have been Sean Connery but anyway Dench has made her own M and i can live with it.

My ideal Bond with no Pierce would have been. Christian Bale, Hugh Jackman or Clive Owen. I may be wrong but even Julian McMahon would have been a better Bond. I will give Craig like i said a chance but he is not my top choice.

no youre not the only one....pierce brosnan is the guy that got me into bond....and dare I say, with the exception of a few other bond movies, his are the only one I find myself watching.

Why? not because I'm ignorant of flemings original vision....just because pierce struck a great balance between being ruthless and...still managing to be likeable.

When I was watching CR, I didnt miss brosnan *tryin to keep an open-mind* but when the curtains came up I REALLY felt crappy that Ill never see another brosnan bond. I sorta thought..."craig CAN act really well...but this guy just isnt bond"

and tbh I cant figure out why craig didnt feel like bond to me....oh well, I'm pretty much finished with bond now I guess.

[nocomics]

heh,
I still prefer Roger Moore..I don't think i saw but one or two 007 movies with bronsan,as I just couldnt get into it. They just seemed so carbon copied from eachother. Typical,hollywood glorified action movie....but thats me..
I haven't seen CR yet,not sure if I will. If ya take away the 007 name-tag its ur A-typical action movie...

[Van Petrol]

Craig is a super Bond, but he's still not my James Bond.

[LastSunrise1981]

heh,
I still prefer Roger Moore..I don't think i saw but one or two 007 movies with bronsan,as I just couldnt get into it. They just seemed so carbon copied from eachother. Typical,hollywood glorified action movie....but thats me..
I haven't seen CR yet,not sure if I will. If ya take away the 007 name-tag its ur A-typical action movie...

Maybe you need to watch Casino Royale before dismissing it.

[LastSunrise1981]

no youre not the only one....pierce brosnan is the guy that got me into bond....and dare I say, with the exception of a few other bond movies, his are the only one I find myself watching.

Why? not because I'm ignorant of flemings original vision....just because pierce struck a great balance between being ruthless and...still managing to be likeable.

When I was watching CR, I didnt miss brosnan *tryin to keep an open-mind* but when the curtains came up I REALLY felt crappy that Ill never see another brosnan bond. I sorta thought..."craig CAN act really well...but this guy just isnt bond"

and tbh I cant figure out why craig didnt feel like bond to me....oh well, I'm pretty much finished with bond now I guess.

:whatever:

Typical Brosnan fanboy response. Sean Connery and Craig were the only ones to capture the essence of Bond. Pierce was excellent in Goldeneye which was the last great Bond film before Casino Royale.

In Pierce's defense it's not his fault the material got more cliche and more retarded with the sequels.

But it's time to move on. Brosnan ISN'T coming back. If you're finished with Bond then be finished with it and stop whining about Pierce being gone already. :whatever:

[jimmylace]

:whatever:

Typical Brosnan fanboy response. Sean Connery and Craig were the only ones to capture the essence of Bond. Pierce was excellent in Goldeneye which was the last great Bond film before Casino Royale.

In Pierce's defense it's not his fault the material got more cliche and more retarded with the sequels.

But it's time to move on. Brosnan ISN'T coming back. If you're finished with Bond then be finished with it and stop whining about Pierce being gone already. :whatever:


whilst brosnan is my fave, the reason why I wasnt impressed with Casino Royale is that it didnt go FAR enough in shaking things up!

I found Casino Royale to be an underwhelming film that promised so much and delivered a mediocre movie at best. With the exception of DAD, all of the brosnan movies were better than this lukewarm turd.

CR had some strong moments, but the majority of the movie boasted some pretty god-awful dialogue.

CR shined when it "broke" the rules...

Bond being poisoned. Torture scene. Bond girl. The valet scene. Le Chiffre

...but then it would sink into the depths with crappy quips (that dont suit craig as bond) clunky romance scenes..crapply inserted action, boring direction, and pretty much everything else.

If youre going to strip bond of his gadgets and give him a character driven movie, then great!

...but youve got to back it up with decent writing, and I think the biggest mistake that the producers made was keeping purvis and wade on board. They changed the only thing that was still working!

and because of this, the majority of the movie was like watching the "serious" parts of a brosnan, but without any of the fun or the charisma, when it should have been edgier

Daniel Craig is a fine actor, CR has a very interesting multi-layered lead...but it's not the "Bond. James Bond" that most of the people on this planet know and love.

I gave the guy a chance but all throughout the movie I felt that he was miscast. And I'm sure I'm not the only one who felt like that when the curtains rolled...I doubt the sequel will perform as well, and think that the franchise will slip into obscurity again.

Many people may be lining up to praise CR now, but give it five years and it won't be so fondly remembered.

CR will be seen as a half-baked attempt of an unnecessary restart that only managed to take a few baby-steps in the desired direction.

You either go one way or the other. Theres no inbetween.

And I reserved judgement. I went in to CR with an open-mind but now informed I still felt CR would have been better with brosnan in the role- even if that's just for the "wow brosnan got a vaguely decent bond story for once"

Anyhow that's my opinion- CR should have gone further, but held back too much. By far the best bond girl of recent though.