Most Captivating Score ever!

[Lando81]

I love this score to the film. it fits perfectly just like Elfmans fit the first two.

[OBSERVER]

I hope the entire score is released eventually. It may all fit on 2 cd's.

[CConn]

Everyone knows the most captivating score of all time is the Adams Family Values soundtrack.

[BatScot]

Surely you jest.

[The Chairman]

I disagree with the OP.

The BB score was fine for the movie, but ultimately held little resonance and was ultimately forgettable IMO. One of the film's weaker elements. Elfman's score is vastly superior. As are many, many other great scores. Someone who claims the score for BB as the best score ever, even if they didn't necessarily mean it in some epistemological sense, obviously has not seen many movies, or at least hasn't heard many great scores.

[strider]

I disagree with the OP.

The BB score was fine for the movie, but ultimately held little resonance and was ultimately forgettable IMO. One of the film's weaker elements. Elfman's score is vastly superior. As are many, many other great scores. Someone who claims the score for BB as the best score ever, even if they didn't necessarily mean it in some epistemological sense, obviously has not seen many movies, or at least hasn't heard many great scores.

Im working on my master in music performance and I can tell you that Elfman's scores were mainly fanfares that are not entirely difficult to come up with...Yes they are memorable and note wrothy but non the less werent every original of different from other heroic fan fare music.

Zimmerman and Newton-Howard are not only leading film composers but respected classical musicians. The BB is far superior in structure, music motives and uses more advanced harmony. They weret trying to give batman a theme per say...it was music to fit emotions, memories and certain elements of the movie...Both scores are different types of music...I perfer the BB score over pervious Batman scores.

[The Kid]

Nothing beats the batman forever score. But Elfman's is really excellent though. The bb score was ok, nothing that stays with you really like Howard's other work.

[El Payaso]

Im working on my master in music performance and I can tell you that Elfman's scores were mainly fanfares that are not entirely difficult to come up with...Yes they are memorable and note wrothy but non the less werent every original of different from other heroic fan fare music.

Zimmerman and Newton-Howard are not only leading film composers but respected classical musicians. The BB is far superior in structure, music motives and uses more advanced harmony. They weret trying to give batman a theme per say...it was music to fit emotions, memories and certain elements of the movie...

This really sounds like you just-

I perfer the BB score over pervious Batman scores.

Exactly. That I can agree with.

[strider]

This really sounds like you just-



Exactly. That I can agree with.


Indeed.

[Thot]

The score to BB was beautifully evocative and gave the film a deeper resonance than any previous. I like Elfman's work alot but found the BB score to be the best yet, right up there with other great ones like Gladiator and Shawshank Redemption.

[Super Kal]

I love this score a lot as well... I love it SOOO much more than any other DC score out there right now.

[El Payaso]

I love this score a lot as well... I love it SOOO much more than any other DC score out there right now.

:huh:

like.... Superman and... what else?

[Super Kal]

well, just that one for now...

[Damiean Dark]

BB is sooo forgetable and at the end of the day soundtracks are made to be remembered and B89 Elfmans theme will always be remembered as THE Batman theme.

[OBSERVER]

Oh, great.
Mr. Negative from the BOF forum.

[Super Kal]

BB is sooo forgetable and at the end of the day soundtracks are made to be remembered and B89 Elfmans theme will always be remembered as THE Batman theme.
I disagree... while the B89 soundtrack has the nostalgic feel to it, the new soundtrack gives it a more modern feel to it and at the same time gives it a very dark feel to it.

Unlike the SR soundtrack, I can sit and listen to this soundtrack all day long and not get bored with it.

[Excel]

the batman forever score would fit spiderman so well.....

[jeffsbaker]

The Batman Begins score is not memorable enough. I think we need a poll: “Which Batman music do you like best?”

IMHO Batman and every other superhero movie needs a tremendous superhero score of heroic fanfare. You need to be able to just hang out with your friends and be able to remember the music and hum it and your friend says, “Hey, your humming Batman.”

The original 1989 Batman theme has a few notes that are memorable in that way.

[CConn]

The Batman Begins score is not memorable enough. I think we need a poll: “Which Batman music do you like best?”

IMHO Batman and every other superhero movie needs a tremendous superhero score of heroic fanfare. You need to be able to just hang out with your friends and be able to remember the music and hum it and your friend says, “Hey, your humming Batman.”

The original 1989 Batman theme has a few notes that are memorable in that way.Are you talking about a score or a theme? BB didn't really have a theme. Which is something you can complain about, sure. But your post really doesn't address the quality of the score as a whole.

[Agentsands77]

The BEGINS score works for the film, especially as a mood setter. It's not instantly memorable, but if it wasn't there, the film would be a very different experience.

[Damiean Dark]

yes let someone do a poll on which score will be remembered more but not by the fanboys but the average movie goer if every voter is honest they will have to admit that B89 will be remembered more.

[NolGoyHater]

Im working on my master in music performance....

I'm sure you would tell that to Danny Elfman if given the chance right? A student who has never ever written one score for a movie, tells a guy who has scored many MANY movies that his musical writing talent is mostly fanfares that are not entirely difficult to come up with.

I go to film school, does that make me a cinematic know it all? In your case I guess it does.

Pompous student w/o any experience < Elfman FTMFW!!!!

[jeffsbaker]

Are you talking about a score or a theme? BB didn't really have a theme. Which is something you can complain about, sure. But your post really doesn't address the quality of the score as a whole.

Ok, the Batman Begins score is just ok in my opinion. It does what it was intended to do: build up excitement. But I say it is just ok, because there is not a good, memorable Batman theme.

So let’s make a poll on which is the best Batman song.

Oh and I somewhat agree with you on the Adams Family Values.

[Castlewood]

The score for Batman Begins, in my opinion, is better than Elfman's, as well as one of the best I've ever heard. As a major in music as well, I'm here to tell you that Elfman's was very simple and cliche, while Zimmer/Howard created ''moods'' in their music that were simply haunting.

In fact, the BB score HAUNTS me in my sleep. Late at night, I hum ''Molossus'' in my head... I hum Track 12 - the title escapes me - as well as Track 2. I swear to god, I have to get OUT OF MY BED and pop in the CD, or else I won't sleep. The soundtrack is.... a part of me. Being a music person, I'm not ashamed to admit that, lol. It's just brilliant all across the board. You could hear the first track, the tenth track, and then the twelfth, and you could swear that they were from three different movies if you hadn't seen BB.

As pieces of music, NOT related to a movie, they are brilliant classical pieces as well.

Elfman's score was very ''predictable''. I always knew where it was going. I dare say that anyone could've written it. The Animated Series had better music than B'89, in my opinion.

[El Payaso]

The score for Batman Begins, in my opinion, is better than Elfman's, as well as one of the best I've ever heard. As a major in music as well, I'm here to tell you that Elfman's was very simple and cliche, while Zimmer/Howard created ''moods'' in their music that were simply haunting.

In fact, the BB score HAUNTS me in my sleep. Late at night, I hum ''Molossus'' in my head... I hum Track 12 - the title escapes me - as well as Track 2. I swear to god, I have to get OUT OF MY BED and pop in the CD, or else I won't sleep. The soundtrack is.... a part of me. Being a music person, I'm not ashamed to admit that, lol. It's just brilliant all across the board. You could hear the first track, the tenth track, and then the twelfth, and you could swear that they were from three different movies if you hadn't seen BB.

As pieces of music, NOT related to a movie, they are brilliant classical pieces as well.

Elfman's score was very ''predictable''. I always knew where it was going. I dare say that anyone could've written it. The Animated Series had better music than B'89, in my opinion.

Hohoho. The comedic tone improves the rest of the post.

[dude love]

BB's score was forgettable. Elfman delivered a dark gothic score that suited Batman, those cords that played when Batman appeared where perfect.

Not a patch on Williams' Krypton Theme though. The best peice of cinematic music. Ever.

[jeffsbaker]

BB's score was forgettable. Elfman delivered a dark gothic score that suited Batman, those cords that played when Batman appeared where perfect.

Not a patch on Williams' Krypton Theme though. The best peice of cinematic music. Ever.

John Williams is the greatest composer of our time, period. Kind of like Lex Luthor is "the greatest criminal mind of our time." If they hired John Williams to write the Batman theme song there would be kids whistling it all over the world. As it is, we have Danny Elfman's Batman theme which is recognizable. Then we have Zimmer/Howard Batman Begins score. Of course there is always the original Batman theme, "Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, Batman!"

[Castlewood]

John Williams is the greatest composer of our time, period. Kind of like Lex Luthor is "the greatest criminal mind of our time." If they hired John Williams to write the Batman theme song there would be kids whistling it all over the world. As it is, we have Danny Elfman's Batman theme which is recognizable. Then we have Zimmer/Howard Batman Begins score. Of course there is always the original Batman theme, "Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, Batman!"

I'm so bored, I actually counted your ''na's'' and they are the exact amount. Good job. :up:

[mclay18]

I think the main theme to Batman: Mask of the Phantasm, composed by Shirley Walker (R.I.P.) is the definitive Batman theme. It was composed in a style similar to Elfman's, but also featured some subtle electronics that recall BB. (In fact, I think Walker said that Hans Zimmer did the synths and electronics stuff for B:MotP.) It had the best of both worlds, in my opinion. If she didn't pass away, I would've picked her to score BB and TDK instead of Zimmer and Howard.

Elfman's score to the first Batman movie is an excellent example of an orchestral superhero score and the Zimmer-Howard score to BB is an evocative score that has an epic, heroic sound as it progresses. I like all three scores, I just prefer Walker's theme instead. (Elliot Goldenthal's scores for BF and B&R are good too, but it's an Elfman-style ripoff.)

[Sun_Down]

It's funny, I literally just finished watching the movie and remember thinking how much I liked the score. I agree it's not ground-breaking musically, but it works perfectly IMO.

[TheBat812]

The 89 score is only good because of the theme, but other than that the BB one is superior. They purposely left out a theme as he was just coming into his own and did not really "deserve" a full theme yet. I believe they said they wrote a theme, but did not really use it because of that. It's a much more emotional score than the 89 score and much more complex. It's also much more beautiful, in my opinion.