Forget Routh! Bring back Dean Cain!

[Catman]

You know what would be funny? If WB suddenly said, "Singer you f--ked up! Brandon Routh was a cheap Christopher Reeve imitation. So, we're bring back our boy, Dean Cain. Now he made us some REAL money back in da day!"

I don't know why but I just thought of this. Honestly, if I saw the trailer for Man of Steel and it said "starring Dean Cain" I would fall off this chair laughing. lol.

http://a1259.g.akamai.net/f/1259/5586/5d/images.art.com/images/-/Dean-Cain---Lois-Clark--C10103224.jpeg
http://www.patfullerton.com/superman/pix/dean/deancain3.jpg

[The Kid]

Laugh?? I'm seriously thinking it'd be better than having super kid adventures...

[Abaddon]

I remember some people being upset because Dean was too ethnic looking.

[Catman]

Laugh?? I'm seriously thinking it'd be better than having super kid adventures...

Once again you bring up a good point. So, the sequel will star Dean Cain and he will fight Nuclear Man.

Dude...this movie is gonna be huge!

And, now some nostalgia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdcvM-vBV1s

[Catman]

Dean Cain in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ia43_r2u4

[Catman]

In this clip, Dean Cain displays more emotions than 2 and a 1/2 hours of Brandon Routh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EZ1vdcHnDw

[dude love]

Once again you bring up a good point. So, the sequel will star Dean Cain and he will fight Nuclear Man.

Dude...this movie is gonna be huge!

And, now some nostalgia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdcvM-vBV1s

Dean Cain as evil Supeman?

[Catman]

Dean Cain as evil Supeman?

:huh:

Dean Cain is the good guy:
http://www.soapsgirl.org/images/primetime/lois&clark/superman.jpg

[dude love]

Oh, sorry in the Nuclear Man thread it was established that Evil Superman was going to take on Nuclear Man. I assumed Evil Superman was the main Superman of the peice.

[Catman]

This is Dean Cain telling Brandon Routh he's gonna kick his ass:
http://ffmedia.ign.com/filmforce/image/article/638/638992/dean-cain-superman_1123181055.jpg

[dude love]

Maybe Brandon Routh should star as evil Superman and Dean Cain as good Superman. That way, we get Evil Superman vs. Nuclear Man and Dean Cain gets to pwn Routh in a Junkyard.

[Catman]

Dean Cain gets to pwn Routh in a Junkyard.

I LOVE IT! :woot:

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Isn't he too old?

[Antonello Blueberry]

This is Dean Cain at the Premiere of Superman Returns:
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/superman_returns/dean_cain/returnsprejs.jpg

[NotFadeAway]

Either David Boreanaz or Henry Cavil could own as Superman, depending on what age you wanted Superman to be.

[dude love]

Man I wish Christophe Reeve was still alive. Can you imagine the visual of Dean Cain, Brandon Routh and Chris Reeve hangin; out at the premiere?

[dark_b]

dean was in an extreme shape. you could see the veins through the suit.

dear god.

[GreenKToo]

I wouldnt mind him having a role in the sequel,maybe as bizzaro.:D

[Antonello Blueberry]

I wouldnt mind him having a role in the sequel,maybe as bizzaro.:D
Fatzarro

[DrMylesOBoogie]

He's actually alot better then Routh.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

:huh:

Dean Cain is the good guy:
http://www.soapsgirl.org/images/primetime/lois&clark/superman.jpgThat would look so cool with a spit curl and messier hair.

[Catman]

This is Dean Cain at the Premiere of Superman Returns:
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/superman_returns/dean_cain/returnsprejs.jpg

He was invited to the premiere? That's cool! Hey, maybe he could get a cameo in the sequel. Why not? Noel Neil and the guy who played Jimmy Olson in `50s series got cameos. So why not Dean Cain?! That would be awesome!

[Catman]

He's actually alot better then Routh.

I hate to say it but you're right. Atleast Cain (with all his flaws) tried to make the role his own. Brandon Routh was just trying to imitate Chris Reeve.

[04nbod]

i loved dean cain back in the day. saturday mornings aren't the same without him

[Catman]

i loved dean cain back in the day. saturday mornings aren't the same without him

Saturday mornings?! :huh: Lois & Clark was an ABC primetime show.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

sorry, superman is already here in the form of Brandon Routh..

apart from chris,the only other guy who owns as supes is george reeves.

[Catman]

apart from chris,the only other guy who owns as supes is george reeves.

I may get beat up for this but I'm not a big George Reeves fan. To me, Reeves is the Adam West of the Superman franchise. You can tell he never took the role seriously. He thought it was a joke.

I think Chris Reeve, Brandon Routh, and Dean Cain were better in the role. And, I guess I could squeeze in Tim Daly for his incredible voice-work in the animated series.

[bunk]

close thread.

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

These threads are not "speculation" threads, nor are they anyway related to the upcoming sequel. I'm inclined to ask the thread-starter two questions at this point:

1) What is the point of "What-if" threads like this?

2) Why would WB even think of firing Routh, when they were gullible enough to re-sign Singer?

Answers please.

[Catman]

These threads are not "speculation" threads, nor are they anyway related to the upcoming sequel. I'm inclined to ask the thread-starter two questions at this point:

1) What is the point of "What-if" threads like this?

2) Why would WB even think of firing Routh, when they were gullible enough to re-sign Singer?

Answers please.

Relax, man! We're just having some fun. Go read the Nuclear Man thread and this thread and its all light-hearted fun. Chill out. Geez.

[NotFadeAway]

Cavill or Boreanaz!!!

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

Relax, man! We're just having some fun. Go read the Nuclear Man thread and this thread and its all light-hearted fun. Chill out. Geez.

Then, by all means, let the merriment continue! :word:

[Catman]

word :up:

[dude love]

Cain and Routh should fight in the junyard exactly the same way the fight went in Superman III, except, this time Cain should should ask Routh "What did the closed fist say to the face?" then Routh would be like "...." and then Cain would say "Punch!" and punch Routh into the acid tank. Finally he would proclaim "I'm Superman, b***h!"

[GreenKToo]

I'm sorry,but to me cain was not superman.I never got that feeling from him..but each to their own I always say..

[Catman]

Cain and Routh should fight in the junyard exactly the same way the fight went in Superman III, except, this time Cain should should ask Routh "What did the closed fist say to the face?" then Routh would be like "...." and then Cain would say "Punch!" and punch Routh into the acid tank. Finally he would proclaim "I'm Superman, b***h!"

I would love to see that. lol. Even if its in the form of an MTV Movie Award sketch. lol.

[KaptainKrypton]

Seeing as I couldn't actually read until about 1999, I always thought Dean Cain was starring in "The Adventures of Bizarro." This was mainly due to his acting. And Catman...that "No!" clip almost made me piss my pants.

[Brainiac 2009]

In this clip, Dean Cain displays more emotions than 2 and a 1/2 hours of Brandon Routh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EZ1vdcHnDw


No thank you.


Brandon is still king. Even Cain was praising Brandon in SR at the premiere.

[Catman]

And Catman...that "No!" clip almost made me piss my pants.

LOL :woot:

[David33]

In this clip, Dean Cain displays more emotions than 2 and a 1/2 hours of Brandon Routh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EZ1vdcHnDw

Agree :up: :up:

[Catman]

lol.

[TwilightPro101]

Routh is here to stay.

[hippie_hunter]

:huh:

Dean Cain is the good guy:
http://www.soapsgirl.org/images/primetime/lois&clark/superman.jpg

His nipple is hard :csad:

[DrMylesOBoogie]

Routh is here to stay.There will be other actors playing Superman long after we are all gone. Everyone of them will most likely be better then Routh too.

[Elisha Cuthbert]

His nipple is hard :csad:He's not the only one. :ninja:

[Catman]

His nipple is hard :csad:

You were looking for that, huh? :woot:

[hippie_hunter]

You were looking for that, huh? :woot:

No, I was simply looking at the picture after someone mentioned how it would look better with the split curl and messier hair. Then I noticed this gigantic nipple poking out.

[Walks Unseen]

Dean Cain was a horrible Superman. He just stood around posing for most of Lois and Clark: AOS. Routh was great as Superman, they just need to develop his Superman is all.

[Catman]

Dean Cain was a horrible Superman. He just stood around posing for most of Lois and Clark: AOS.

He wasn't posing here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EZ1vdcHnDw

[DvilDog]

He wasn't posing here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EZ1vdcHnDw

What episode was that from. I havent seen these in years. Too lazy to go buy the dvd's:)

[Road Warrior]

I believe that was the episode in which Lois and Lex Luthor get engaged. Superman was stalking Lois outside her windown then ran off into the middle of nowhere and screamed like a *****. Looks like Bryan Singer was also ripping-off this show. ;)

[Catman]

There was not one inch of originality in Superman Returns!

[DvilDog]

The kid was original wasnt it? :)

[DvilDog]

edit stupid dp

[Catman]

The kid was original wasnt it? :)

Sort of. Lois & Clark ended with someone leaving a kid on their front door.

[Karea07]

that youtube clip is freakin amazing :up:

[Catman]

I know! I laugh everytime1

[dude love]

I would love to see that. lol. Even if its in the form of an MTV Movie Award sketch. lol.

It's official me and you should write the Superman sequel.

[Catman]

lol :D

[Eros]

Cain was not a great suerman, but his clark Kent was the best. and considering cain was suppose to play superman as the disguise, that is pefectly understandable.

[Catman]

^Agreed.

[NotFadeAway]

Cain was not a great suerman, but his clark Kent was the best. and considering cain was suppose to play superman as the disguise, that is pefectly understandable.

Finally, somebody gets it around here. Clark Kent came first in L&C!

[Catman]

I thought it was common knowledge. The show is called Lois & Clark

[NotFadeAway]

I thought it was common knowledge. The show is called Lois & Clark

You would think so, but alot of people around here seem to not understand that concept.

[Catman]

Shocking :o

[NotFadeAway]

Shocking :o

lol

[Brainiac 2009]

Finally, somebody gets it around here. Clark Kent came first in L&C!

Which is why Cain's portrayal came off as totally unbelieveable and dumb.

CK needs to be the disguise for live action portrayals.

It just isnt believeable the other way around.

[Catman]

I liked it either way. It's a show about Lois & Clark not Superman...you know?

[NotFadeAway]

Which is why Cain's portrayal came off as totally unbelieveable and dumb.

CK needs to be the disguise for live action portrayals.

It just isnt believeable the other way around.

Thats the boring route. With good writing, it's better to have CK as the real man, Superman as the disguise.

[Catman]

Actually...Kal-El is the real person. Clark Kent and Superman are simply two aspects of his personality.

[thechubbysaint]

Actually...Kal-El is the real person. Clark Kent and Superman are simply two aspects of his personality.

How so? He was raised as Clark for 25ish years. That would be his primary personality with Superman being an alter ego he uses. Kal-El would just be a name given to him by his folks, a kyrptonian personality wouldn't be imprinted because of that.

[Brainiac 2009]

Thats the boring route. With good writing, it's better to have CK as the real man, Superman as the disguise.

It just isnt physically possible unless you suspend all disbelief like in L+C.

I'm curious to see how you would write it to make it believeable though.


Then again the boringness of the CK disguise is relevant to how its written also.

[Brainiac 2009]

How so? He was raised as Clark for 25ish years. That would be his primary personality with Superman being an alter ego he uses. Kal-El would just be a name given to him by his folks, a kyrptonian personality wouldn't be imprinted because of that.

Theres 2 Clarks though, the real man....and the disguise he uses in Metropolis to fool ppl.

Superman is the 3rd identity; his public one.

[04nbod]

Saturday mornings?! :huh: Lois & Clark was an ABC primetime show.

in england... that would never be put on prime time in the UK:csad:

[jcas0516]

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9gnMiCOT3dFcpYA_d6jzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN 0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=12nnaabfl/EXP=1165533454/**http%3a//supermanfanart.com/artists/sebastian/brandon-routh_small.jpg
http://supermanfanart.com/artists/Grundfast/updated-routh.jpg

If these changes are met for SR-Man of Steel...Cain is not even a conversacion. ...

[dude love]

Wow. The traditional suit looks so much better. I'd never noticed. I hope to god they use the more traditional look in MOS.

[Myrddin_Emrys]

in england... that would never be put on prime time in the UK:csad:

In england when Lois and Clark was released (the name was changed to the New Adventures of Superman for some reason), this show WAS prime time. 7pm every Saturday evening.

BTW, Routh is a credible Superman, I think he did a pretty good job... Dean Cain? Hes not tall enough, hes not handsome enough and he cant act enough.

[04nbod]

its been on prime time recently on itv2 but thats a second class channel. i remember it being on 6 on BBC2- prime time is from 7 i believe- thats why the soaps are there

[superdupersuper]

i remember lois and clark was Primetime on saturday evenings 7pm, back from 93 to 97.

i used to watch it every week, it was awesome back then

still a good show

although the level of camp is probably the same as the spiderman movies

[Catman]

How so? He was raised as Clark for 25ish years. That would be his primary personality with Superman being an alter ego he uses. Kal-El would just be a name given to him by his folks, a kyrptonian personality wouldn't be imprinted because of that.

The kid from Smallville is the real him. The Clark we see running around Metropolis and Superman are two aspects of his personality.

[Superman]

In a word...

NO!!

[Catman]

In a word...

NO!!

:csad:

[Spoarz™]

Bring back...Dean Cain? *shudders*

[Catman]

Why shudder when you can smile? :D

[Immortalfire]

This is Dean Cain telling Brandon Routh he's gonna kick his ass:
http://ffmedia.ign.com/filmforce/image/article/638/638992/dean-cain-superman_1123181055.jpg LoL

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Catman, I can never take anything you say seriously. Anyone who even suggests Dean Cain be Superman again should have his opinion card revoked, burned, torn into shreds, and placed into a rocket and shot into the sun.

Worst. Idea. Evar. Period.

[Catman]

LoL
:woot:

Catman, I can never take anything you say seriously. Anyone who even suggests Dean Cain be Superman again should have his opinion card revoked, burned, torn into shreds, and placed into a rocket and shot into the sun.

Worst. Idea. Evar. Period.

Too much hate coming out of you. :cmad:

[SANSHORYU]

Great reading...

But I always liked Cain's Clark, but his Superman was really lacking.
Routh's a good Superman and good goofy Clark, but his Superman needs some changes.

[Cats]

I'll have to agree with venom420 and catman - although I don't think it was fully Dean Cain that made Lois and Clark great, it was producer Deborah Joy LeVine, together with her team of scriptwriters. They always knew how to give just that little bit of oomph, that you had to tune in next week to find out what was going to happen.

Brandon Routh had all the potential in the world - just look at the guy during interviews, he has a presence that screams golden boy. Has a kinda self conscious walk, shy and humble manner, and gentle voice that I'd imagine Supes would have. Routh had only to be himself to have been both a suitable Clark Kent and Superman. I don't really know whose fault it was, but he came off quite different during the film.

Dean Cain in Lois and Clark came off as all that Brandon Routh is in real person. If LeVine had her hands on Brandon, SR might've been a much more memorable piece.

[Catman]

Yes, Cats, Debbie was the best producer on the show. Unforunately, she didn't stick around for the entire series. :(

[Spoarz™]

Why shudder when you can smile? :D
Oh, ok then. :)

*thinks about bringing back Dean Cain* :dry:

*shudders again*

Sorry dude, I did try. :D

[pifpaf]

http://www.soapsgirl.org/images/primetime/lois&clark/superman.jpg[/quote]

the suit suck he to small 5.10

[Two-Face]

Cain probably don't want to play Superman again anyway, Stick with Routh and it's his first movie so I think he'll will be great in SR sequel also he's got some acting chops too.

[KaptainKrypton]

Catman, I can never take anything you say seriously. Anyone who even suggests Dean Cain be Superman again should have his opinion card revoked, burned, torn into shreds, and placed into a rocket and shot into the sun.
I wouldn't go this far. His opinion could come back as "Nuclear Opinion." Just roaring all the time and saying things like "destroy Superman, now...IMO!"

[DvilDog]

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9gnMiCOT3dFcpYA_d6jzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN 0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=12nnaabfl/EXP=1165533454/**http%3a//supermanfanart.com/artists/sebastian/brandon-routh_small.jpg
http://supermanfanart.com/artists/Grundfast/updated-routh.jpg

If these changes are met for SR-Man of Steel...Cain is not even a conversacion. ...

The bigger S does look pretty good. But just like DF said. Look at the haircut, and the trunks. The colors do help too.

[NotFadeAway]

Guys.......

Putting all personal beliefs aside for a moment, Tom Welling looks like he could beat the wholy sh^t out of both Routh and Cain.

[GreenKToo]

I wouldnt have minded welling,but cain???sorry,but no.

[04nbod]

The kid from Smallville is the real him. The Clark we see running around Metropolis and Superman are two aspects of his personality.

i fully agree. Clark kent is an act,superman is a symbol like batman said in batman begins- when you become a symbol you can't be tainted. The farm boy is the real kal- there is no need to act around his mother.i think routh played that side well as well as the bumbling clark kent side.- very few people can become big enough in stature to be superman.i hope martha is in the next movie.

[dark_b]

Guys.......

Putting all personal beliefs aside for a moment, Tom Welling looks like he could beat the wholy sh^t out of both Routh and Cain.i guess you see something that i dont.

[Showtime]

http://www.all-pictures-photos.com/images/chris-klein/chris-klein-003-img.jpg

Before Superman Returns was even mentioned as becoming a movie, I was thinking that Chris Klein really looked the part of Superman/Clark.

[Showtime]

Guys.......

Putting all personal beliefs aside for a moment, Tom Welling looks like he could beat the wholy sh^t out of both Routh and Cain.

I don't know how you can decipher that by looking at somebody.

Van Damme looks like he could bungle Steven Segal, but because Van Damme was originally a ballet dancer and Segal actually teaches asian martial artists how to fight.

[Catman]

http://www.all-pictures-photos.com/images/chris-klein/chris-klein-003-img.jpg

Before Superman Returns was even mentioned as becoming a movie, I was thinking that Chris Klein really looked the part of Superman/Clark.

Chris Klein is a horrible actor!

[KaptainKrypton]

I don't know how you can decipher that by looking at somebody.

Van Damme looks like he could bungle Steven Segal, but because Van Damme was originally a ballet dancer and Segal actually teaches asian martial artists how to fight.
In defense of Van Damme, he won the Champion Du Monde when he was like 19. Granted, Seagal was the first American to teach Aikido in Japan, Van Damme was a prodigy who would've ruled kickboxing throughout the eighties, but he had this weird idea of getting into movies instead. Van Damme is a serious fighter who still has loads of speed. Seagal has been making too many bad CDs and eating too many hoagies to do anything damaging to anyone.

As for the topic of Welling being able to beat Routh or Cain, it doesn't matter because they're all ex-models (with the exception of Cain who was a football player) who probably fight like wieners anyway. It'd be worse than watching basketball players fight. Besides, Dean-o would probably whip both of their arses anyway.

[LL2K2]

You're kidding, right? :whatever:

And besides, Cain's getting up there in age - he turned the big 4-0 this year.

[NotFadeAway]

I don't know how you can decipher that by looking at somebody.

Van Damme looks like he could bungle Steven Segal, but because Van Damme was originally a ballet dancer and Segal actually teaches asian martial artists how to fight.

Thats what I was implying about Welling. He LOOKS like he could beat the hell outta Routh and Cain. Can Welling take either in a real fist fight, I have no idea. But on screen, from a looks standpoint, Welling looks like he would dominate both.

Like another poster said, Cain would probably win a brawl seeing that he was a football player, although Welling was a construction worker after high school.

[NotFadeAway]

http://www.all-pictures-photos.com/images/chris-klein/chris-klein-003-img.jpg

Before Superman Returns was even mentioned as becoming a movie, I was thinking that Chris Klein really looked the part of Superman/Clark.

One of the worst actors in the business, along with Paul Walker!!

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Seagal could kick everybodys ass...if he could be bothered to do the fights himself..

[Matt]

Guys.......

Putting all personal beliefs aside for a moment, Tom Welling looks like he could beat the wholy sh^t out of both Routh and Cain.

Welling is also a 25 year old guy where as Dain Cain is 40. Dean Cain in his prime would break Welling in half. Look at him in his Baywatch days. The guy was a monster.

[Matt]

Oh, and for the record, Dean Cain still did the best Clark to date. If he had more to work with he would've made a good Superman but the show was called Lois and CLARK not Lois and SUPERMAN. The writers clearly thought of Superman as an after thought. Therefore he never got the opportunity to shine. But Cain is more talented than people give credit for.

[dark_b]

Welling is also a 25 year old guy where as Dain Cain is 40. Dean Cain in his prime would break Welling in half. Look at him in his Baywatch days. The guy was a monster.he was in baywatch? :wow:

[Matt]

he was in baywatch? :wow:

Erm, no actually, my mistake. I was confusing him with someone else. But my point stands. He was huge in his prime. When Dean Cain was Welling's age he was far bigger than Welling is now.

[NotFadeAway]

Oh, and for the record, Dean Cain still did the best Clark to date. If he had more to work with he would've made a good Superman but the show was called Lois and CLARK not Lois and SUPERMAN. The writers clearly thought of Superman as an after thought. Therefore he never got the opportunity to shine. But Cain is more talented than people give credit for.

I agree with you 100%. Cain was the best Clark Kent to date.

Also, Teri Hatcher was worlds above Kidder or Bosworth, Lane Smith was the best Perry White ever, and Landes/Whalin were better Jimmy's than the "man crush, gee whiz" versions played by Mcclure/Huntington.

The Smallville parents are my favorite version of the Kents, but I also enjoy the Kents on L&C.

[James Bond 007]

nobody bring back dean cain, if anyone brings back dean cain i'll commit suicide by overdosing on superfriends

[Kid_Kaos]

Dean Cain's Clark pretty much made me believe in Superman again. As a kid, I didn't care for the camp of the old movies. They we're fun and good action. But as a teen and adult now, I just need a character to relate to. The whole Kal-El/Clark/Superman crap from those movies just doesn't work for me.
"Lois & Clark" and the TAS versions are the way to go with Superman today. I love the way Clark and Lois interact and the way Luthor works against them and Supes.

Yes, Superman is different from other comic heroes because of the switched disguise. Thats fine and dandy, keep it to the comics. A movie must have a main character I can relate to, otherwise I don't care for him. When i wanna see a freaky alien creature that longs for acception in humanity, I watch "Hellboy". Even though I want a superhero movie to stick close to the source, there need to be slight adaptations to work in a movieworld. For ex.: the organic webbing for Spider-Man. It creates smoother stories and makes more sense on the screen because Peter is a normal guy rather than a crazy weird scientist teenboy. That way more people can relate to him and understand him.

Superman is, if you erase the Krypton origin, just a human with powers. He grew up on a farm and when the time was right, he created himself a disguise and went public to make the world a better place. The disguise is stupid whatever way you turn it. He wears no mask and at least the DP staff would expose him very fast. But that's part of the character in every portrayal, accept it or don't watch it.

The whole alien heritage was added to give him more stories, seeing as he was intended to be a Sci-Fi character. That doesn't erase his 20 something years he grew up as human on a farm. When he finds the fortress or creates it (whatever you like) he uses the knowledge to help earth and other civilizations in space. He doesn't suddenly turn into some weird alien that plays human like the old movies showed it. Donner worked with the material he was given at the time and if DC wouldn't have made a clean cut and recreated Superman in a more "Marvel" way, he would be dead by now.

That's my main problem with "Returns". I can't connect to the characters. Superman is some stupid alien I don't care for, Lois is a bit and the rest of the cast is plain boring. I can forgive a terrible story as long as the characters work, but in this case they just do not.

I wouldn't bring back Dean Cain, but someone who can act, looks the part and plays the Superman I, and many other people, know since the 90's.

[Spidey888]

Brandon Routh Is Better

[dude love]

http://www.all-pictures-photos.com/images/chris-klein/chris-klein-003-img.jpg

Before Superman Returns was even mentioned as becoming a movie, I was thinking that Chris Klein really looked the part of Superman/Clark.

Keanu Reeves? Hell no!

Wait... that's not Keanu...

[Brainiac 2009]

Someone else wants Dean Cain back:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Efa5hPWxQk

[Canadian Rider]

:huh:

Dean Cain is the good guy:
http://www.soapsgirl.org/images/primetime/lois&clark/superman.jpg

Seriously though ... did they get this costume at Toys 'R Us? And is the S so huge to cover up the lack of definition in his pecs?:whatever:

Scary to think his Lois is on the Biggest show this year ... Yikes!:wow:

[dark_b]

Seriously though ... did they get this costume at Toys 'R Us? And is the S so huge to cover up the lack of definition in his pecs?:whatever:

Scary to think his Lois is on the Biggest show this year ... Yikes!:wow:
1. low budget tv-show.
2. hes mom made it at home.

everything makes sense

[Uncanny]

Oh, and for the record, Dean Cain still did the best Clark to date. If he had more to work with he would've made a good Superman but the show was called Lois and CLARK not Lois and SUPERMAN. The writers clearly thought of Superman as an after thought. Therefore he never got the opportunity to shine. But Cain is more talented than people give credit for.

:up:


I also think that Teri Hatcher was worlds above Kate Bosworth.

[Mike]

:up:


I also think that Teri Hatcher was worlds above Kate Bosworth. The best lois!

[04nbod]

i hate terri hatcher-and in lois and clark she got really whiney- i prefer erica durance- she has more wit

[Catman]

Oh, and for the record, Dean Cain still did the best Clark to date.

Agreed. Chris Reeve's Clark Kent made perfect sense. But, if you were gonna do a show that revolved around Clark Kent then that interpretation would get annoying after two episodes. So, Dean Cain's take on Clark Kent was perfect for the show and in a strange way makes him the best Clark Kent in my book.

If he had more to work with he would've made a good Superman but the show was called Lois and CLARK not Lois and SUPERMAN.

Thats what I always tell people.

But Cain is more talented than people give credit for.

I guess.

[lexlives]

I actually like Routh a lot from the vibe I get in interviews. He is not full of himself, seems like a real good guy - someone I would love to have as a friend.

But those qualities do not make a great actor. Brandon is an average actor as is Dean. Ironically Dean's Clark was good and so was Brandon's but they did not have the skills to carry the dual role. Not a lot of actors would.

You know where Singer made his mistake in going with Routh?

Simple - he went for a physical clone or as close to a clone of Reeve as he could find. But Reeve's looks, though great, are not what made him Superman. It was his persona, charisma, presence.

That is what Singer should have looked for in the new Superman actor - a Reeve-like presnces, not a Reeve-like look.

Its clear to me that Reeve's presence is what made him a perfect Superman. His chisled features come after that.

[dude love]

Sort of. Lois & Clark ended with someone leaving a kid on their front door.

It was Dean Cain's idea to give Superman a son. He said so in the "Look! Up in the sky!" documentary.

They need to involve Dean Cain badly. Hal Jordan cameo anyone?

[Catman]

It was Dean Cain's idea to give Superman a son. He said so in the "Look! Up in the sky!" documentary.

They need to involve Dean Cain badly. Hal Jordan cameo anyone?

Interesting! Too bad that never got a chance to play out!

[dude love]

It would turn into The Incredibles. At least in current movie cannon, Superman's out of the family picture.

[Catman]

No, he's dead-beat dad in the movie world. Atleast in Lois & Clark he would be a responsible father!

[lexlives]

Is that the only choice? I say forget Routh and Cain as they both are average actors ans Superman deserves much better than that.

[Big Supes]

'Forget Routh! Bring back Dean Cain!'

I've heard it all now......

:wow: :woot:



Dean Cain's portrayal ouzzed slime from every orffice of his body. His CK was a smug show off and his Superman embraced showing his powers a little too easily.

[dude love]

No, he's dead-beat dad in the movie world. Atleast in Lois & Clark he would be a responsible father!

It's not so much he's a dead beat dad. It's because Jason himself is an accident.

[Catman]

He should have worn a condom. :o

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

He should have worn a condom. :o



A kryptonite one? lets face it dude..it would fire like a shot gun.

[GreenKToo]

haha,it really kills me how folks call supes a ''deadbeat'' dad.A deadbeat dad is a man who knows he has a child, and does not take responsibility for them.If you dont know you have a child,how in the world can you be a deadbeat dad??you cant.plus,Supes has placed himself into jason's life now,and I hardly call that being "deadbeat''..If you dont like him having a kid,thats fine,but a deadbeat dad he is not.

[Brainiac 8]

I love Lois and Clark, some of my most watched DVDs at home.

Dean Cain was a much better Superman than most give him credit for. He was a better Superman and Clark Kent than Routh was.

[GreenKToo]

wow,you really think so??I personally couldnt stand cain's superman,but his clark was pretty cool.I love Lois and Clark, some of my most watched DVDs at home.

Dean Cain was a much better Superman than most give him credit for. He was a better Superman and Clark Kent than Routh was.

[Brainiac 8]

Yea, I am in the minority that really enjoyed his Superman. To each his own though...

I think the reason I feel the way I do is that Cain made his Superman his own, Routh was forced by Singer to fit a mold that noone could fit into. SInger forced him to try and be Reeve, and he should have let Routh become his own Superman instead of following in a shadow far too big for him.

[Karea07]

Teri Hatcher should come back into the picture too... forget Kate Bosworth. She is a bobble head with a disgustingly (if that's a word) skinny body.

Oh wait, Teri Hatcher is becoming that way too... nevermind. :p

[GreenKToo]

hey, thats kool.the world would be a boring place if we all had the same opinions..:yay: Yea, I am in the minority that really enjoyed his Superman. To each his own though...

I think the reason I feel the way I do is that Cain made his Superman his own, Routh was forced by Singer to fit a mold that noone could fit into. SInger forced him to try and be Reeve, and he should have let Routh become his own Superman instead of following in a shadow far too big for him.

[Brainiac 8]

Tis true.. :up:

Oh and yes, Hatcher to date is still my favorite Lois. :D

http://www.sandcastlevi.com/images/scifi_other/teri-02.jpg
Need I say more.

[GreenKToo]

she's still too fine...:hyper:Tis true.. :up:

Oh and yes, Hatcher to date is still my favorite Lois. :D

http://www.sandcastlevi.com/images/scifi_other/teri-02.jpg
Need I say more.

[Road Warrior]

Teri Hatcher should come back into the picture too...

She hasn't really aged that well. Or maybe she has:

http://www.desperateblog.com/wp-content/uploads/teri%20hatcher.jpg
http://www.myclassiclyrics.com/artist_biographies/Teri_Hatcher_Biography.jpg

[GreenKToo]

^ she's like a fine wine...

[Catman]

I guess :)

[resentment]

Seriously though ... did they get this costume at Toys 'R Us? And is the S so huge to cover up the lack of definition in his pecs?:whatever:

Scary to think his Lois is on the Biggest show this year ... Yikes!:wow:

So you obviously never saw the first episode of Lois & Clark during the "bath towel" scene.

He's as big, if not noticably bigger, than Brandon.

[Brainiac 2009]

He was bigger than Brandon.

But his Clark and Superman both sucked. I rewatched Lois and Clark recently.

While it was nice they tried to characterize Metropolis Clark as a real person, it was totally cartoony and lame how they played off the duality of Superman/Clark Kent.

Cain played them EXACTLY the same.

That would never have worked for the cinematic version. It worked with the cheesiness and campiness of Lois and Clark though.

[Road Warrior]

It worked with the cheesiness and campiness of Lois and Clark though.

The Lois & Clark show was never meant to be taken that seriously.

[Crowforge]

I dont want to see this
http://www.presswhores.com/images/teri_hatcher_wrinkles_ugly_too_much_makeup_small.j pg

[Brainiac 2009]

The Lois & Clark show was never meant to be taken that seriously.

Which is fine but it would be a wrong approach for a cinematic version for sure.

[Jimmy, GL]

We need somone who can do the job right... I hate to say this but I say bring in a comedian. Maybe even Jim Carrey. If you think about it Jim has actually some of the wierdest roles but that only gives him experience. It's a wierd idea but could be expanded upon.

Also I think the Supe's of the movie should be like the Supe's from Birthright. At first I didn't like him but then by the end I was thinking how perfect that Supe's is. Even for a movie. If we could get an actor that could show off the kind of emotion that Kal-El did in Birthright we'd be set. Plus his costume was perfect as well. The S was exactly the size it should be and he was at the right physical condition. I love the artists did in Birthright and hope that one day a Director/writer could translate the way Supe's acts in all his aspects to movie form.

[Road Warrior]

Which is fine but it would be a wrong approach for a cinematic version for sure.

But of course! But, don't hate L&C because it wasn't cinematic material. It was a simple light-hearted television series.

I liked it. :yay:

[Mr. Socko]

The SR costume looks like the greatest thing ever made compared to Cain's.

[Brainiac 2009]

The funny thing is Cain's is almost exactly like the Ross version.... but it just looked so bad in real life.

[Catman]

Ross' Superman was half-Asian :huh:

[dark_b]

The funny thing is Cain's is almost exactly like the Ross version.... but it just looked so bad in real life.you have to really show some pics for comparison.

[Brainiac 2009]

Ross' Superman was half-Asian :huh:

How can someone's costume be half asian?

[Brainiac 2009]

you have to really show some pics for comparison.

http://supermanjaviolivares.iespana.es/lcsuperman2.jpg

Same neckline, Similar oversized \S/, Similar colors (darker navy blue and red) .....the only major difference is the belt buckle.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/tifflover/hill_superman2.jpg <- Same colors.

If someone could find more pics of this live model of the Ross Superman thatd be good.

[dark_b]

i thought that you said that cain is like ross superman

[Brainiac 2009]

Nah. Just the suit is similar. Not that I like Cain or the Ross Superman.

I like Ross's Kingdom Come version though but his regular Superman just isnt the right look for the movie version.

[Catman]

i thought that you said that cain is like ross superman

Thats what I thought as well. :o

[Lightning54SC]

BRING BACK CAIN? Lets NOT and say we did

[FanboyX_Returns]

She hasn't really aged that well. Or maybe she has:

http://www.desperateblog.com/wp-content/uploads/teri%20hatcher.jpg
http://www.myclassiclyrics.com/artist_biographies/Teri_Hatcher_Biography.jpg

Not aged well? You kidding? Id tear that ass up!
She's still every bit as hot as she was when she played Lois!

[FanboyX_Returns]

Chris Klein is a horrible actor!

He's better then Routh, and he does actually looks the part.

I wouldn't have minded Klein but still not my top choice.

[Lightning54SC]

He's better then Routh, and he does actually looks the part.

I wouldn't have minded Klein but still not my top choice.

can someone maniup Klein as superman?

[CGHulk]

http://supermanjaviolivares.iespana.es/lcsuperman2.jpg

Same neckline, Similar oversized \S/, Similar colors (darker navy blue and red) .....the only major difference is the belt buckle.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/tifflover/hill_superman2.jpg <- Same colors.

If someone could find more pics of this live model of the Ross Superman thatd be good.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3577/alexrossmannequin1uq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[PenanceStare]

Not aged well? You kidding? Id tear that ass up!
She's still every bit as hot as she was when she played Lois!

If not hotter....:ghost:

[Superman Prime]

Dean Cain made a fairly decent Superman. Not so sure he'd look the part now, though. I mean he hardly even looked the part back then.

[Yellow Cyclone]

cain's clark is still the best live action version period. even better than chris' (yeah i said it)

the only thing that beats it is the TAS version, but that's unfair.

[Stripesy Strip]

THe Alex Ross Superman model: is he a real actor? Because if he is...then pick him!

[Buttman]

THe Alex Ross Superman model: is he a real actor? Because if he is...then pick him!
Yeah, he's just a little.. wooden. Heh.

[Superman Prime]

cain's clark is still the best live action version period. even better than chris' (yeah i said it)

the only thing that beats it is the TAS version, but that's unfair.

:wow: ??!!!??

Oh no you didn't!

[Road Warrior]

If not hotter....:ghost:

She still looks good, but she looked better in 1993.

[rogue trooper]

He's better then Routh, and he does actually looks the part.

I wouldn't have minded Klein but still not my top choice.



Klein does not have the commanding presence that Routh has.

[KrypJonian]

i loved dean cain back in the day. saturday mornings aren't the same without him

Saturday mornings, huh?

What about before?

:huh:

[KrypJonian]

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3577/alexrossmannequin1uq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Alright, we have a look for Supes when he's 50

But it'll never get to that:whatever:

[Handout]

Dont bring back Dean Cain, he simply does not look the part.
His physical appearance is not impressive enough.
Im not speaking of his acting ability, he certainly exuded enough confidence but it was not satisfactory to make me believe the whole package.
Honestly, if youre going to cast someone as Kal el you have to find someone with both acting skill and appearance.

[Catman]

Dont bring back Dean Cain, he simply does not look the part.
His physical appearance is not impressive enough.
Im not speaking of his acting ability, he certainly exuded enough confidence but it was not satisfactory to make me believe the whole package.
Honestly, if youre going to cast someone as Kal el you have to find someone with both acting skill and appearance.

This thread was a joke BTW.

[dude love]

It was a what? :csad: I'm shocked. Shocked and appaled. :csad:

[Catman]

It was a what? :csad: I'm shocked. Shocked and appaled. :csad:

;)I kid. I kid. Dean Cain is da man!

[Zigno]

catman, u cant be serius...

[Texas Ranger]

what! no keep brandon routh

[Jimmy, GL]

Somebody should make an animated image of Cain's "NOOOO!" :woot:

[dude love]

;)I kid. I kid. Dean Cain is da man!

:woot: You damn skippy hippy!

[Catman]

catman, u cant be serius...

Don't be a Cain-hater! :dry:
http://www.wrhs.net/webdesignprojects/gbh_final_project/dean_cain.jpg

[dude love]

Don't be a Cain-hater! :dry:
http://www.wrhs.net/webdesignprojects/gbh_final_project/dean_cain.jpg

^ Cain's expression when watching Routh get his ass kicked by Luthors thugs.

[Eros]

Dont bring back Dean Cain, he simply does not look the part.
His physical appearance is not impressive enough.
Im not speaking of his acting ability, he certainly exuded enough confidence but it was not satisfactory to make me believe the whole package.
Honestly, if youre going to cast someone as Kal el you have to find someone with both acting skill and appearance.

Interesting enough, Cain had more muscle mass then Routh. Not to mention his clark kent had an actual human personality and cool charm about him.

[FaT_tONle]

Bring back Caine and Keaton and do that Bat Supes cross over like the trailer on you tube... you know u want it

[lexlives]

Interesting enough, Cain had more muscle mass then Routh. Not to mention his clark kent had an actual human personality and cool charm about him.

Cain's Superman was bad, but his Clark had cool charm. Routh simply does not have the charm or presence - either as Superman or as Clark.

[Jimmy, GL]

Has anyone noticed that all the supermen have had higher pitched voices. It's a little thought I had. Isn't Superman supposed to have a deep yet calm and loving tone in his vocals. I just thought i'd point this out.:ninja:

[Catman]

Dean Cain in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1ZVRm1KcZY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66_STZ7YCS8

[El Payaso]

This thread was a joke BTW.

I guess we're still looking for the punchline before page 10. :yay:

[Catman]

Page 11 ;)