Birds of Prey

[GLfan]

Anyone like it? I did, too bad it was cancelled it got better ratings than Angel. I think it would have worked better if Huntress wore a mask, and Harley Quinn wore her costume. I really liked the final episode, which brought the series to a nice conclusion.

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

um...are you sure about it getting higher ratings than angel? I believe that was only for the pilot episode, then they were dropping like flies.

[Spidey-Fan700]

It was okay at first, but it soon soured for me. It wasn't on Smallville's level.

[BeserkerHilf]

the only good part was when mark hamill voiced the joker in the pilot episode when the joker killed everyone and destroyed batman's life. that's it.

[Lighthouse]

I wanted it to be good and watched 5 episodes waiting for it to get good, but they all sucked. Too much camp and cringe-inducing lines.

[Assassin32]

I liked it, but that's just because i'm desperate to see anything new, and Batman-related.

[Superman]

I like it alot, But I do agree with what some others have said though. It wasn't on Smallville's or Angel's level, But it was good.

[Jehuty]

Angel owned this show.

[GLfan]

I believe The Birds Of Prey were consistently getting 3.9 to 4.2 in the ratings and Angel was getting 3.8.

[zanos]

It deserved what it got. Anyone who would play TATU during a fight scene should be canned immediately. Simply a horrible show.

[WEB OF SPIDEY]

I prefer Angel to Birds Of Prey, Birds of Prey just finished over here in England, I liked it but It just lacked Batman, the joker etc.

[Morg]

I wasn't very good, Angel was much better.

[wiegeabo]

It would have done better if it would of had a timeslot following Smallville. Why they didn't, I can't figure out. A new superhero show with a strong premier after an already strong superhero show. Could have been a ratings monster.

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

It got better every episode...except for gladiatrix, that was horrible. :mad: :mad:

[Lazarus440]

where did all the bad guys go? was the joker the last one, and batman was like well i am out of here; towns your batgirl?

[MarvelMovies]

It was ok.... but wasn't that great... the few episodes I did watch were pretty boring to me...

[Generation Lee]

I found 1 line that made the show. It was when Barbra was talking about Dick, Jason, Tim and herself to Huntresses and she replied something like Batman was your mentor (or maybe it was hero damn I hate 4getting things) not mine. I really liked that and that was about it I hate meta humans have them were they are made ie Ivy Freeze not born with the abilities.

[Superfreak]

Simply... the overall atmosphere was NOT DARK ENOUGH. It is essentially a Batman spin off. Everybody was a little too happy with their situations. Oracle HAS NO LEGS, wet she is happy as anything. Huntress was independent as designed, but nowhere near angry enough. And Canary/Dinah, it's like they plucked that character right out of full house.

'Batman Universe' characters should be dark and brooding... even girls. It was just too happy most of the time. Example of what doesn't fit into this kind of show: Lets all hold hands to stop the villain at the end of the pilot episode. That's just stupid. THEY SHOULDA FOUGHT

That's why I didn't like the show too much. I too was interested, with the lack of Batman 'media' out there. But was severly dissappointed with the series.

PS. All of the villains were Lame.

PPS. I'd equate Birds of Prey with Lois and Clark. These two shows had similar quality. Smallville is far above both of these in quality.

[GLfan]

Originally posted by wiegeabo
It would have done better if it would of had a timeslot following Smallville. Why they didn't, I can't figure out. A new superhero show with a strong premier after an already strong superhero show. Could have been a ratings monster. That's how it was suppose to be originally, somewhere along the line they changed the lineup.

[blind_fury]

i will NOT dignify this thread with a response! :mad:

oops... i already did. :o

[Jehuty]

The only good thing was the first episode with batman.

[MarvelMovieFan]

The show was made for guys on hormones, that;s why there were three female leads in it.

It deserved to be canned.


There is a website called BirdsofPrey online that is trying to get the show back on, but it's run by someone who has no life...

[Istari Wizard]

Birds of prey sucked

[TheSpyAssassin]

I liked th show for what it was, yet it had flaws. I never expected much out of the series. I liked DIna Meyer and her portrayal. however........................................... ...............
I think if the show stuck to the formula that certain episodes had (for the instance the episodes featuring: Lady Shiva, Black Canary, Clayface, and the The final Episodes) it would ahve been a cool show. What those pisodes have that made them stand out? the link between past Batman/Batgirl Adventures and the Future Gotham Protectors. I wanted to see more things that would uncover the past of Batgirl and Batman, not random metahumans with horrible methods and motives. I would also wouldve liked to see past Batman villians or even the child of Batman villians come about. One of the tings i was liked was how Harley Quinn was transformed into a psychopathic yet serious main villian. If the show stook to a consisten Batman theme wiht Batman villians it would have been a great show. Not to mention with soem better script writing. Also, i think it would avebeen neccesary to ahve Dinah call herself Black Canary during the final episode.

[skorponok]

I watched part of one episode...I did not enjoy it.

[BlackStorm]

I loved it

[Spidey-Fan700]

I was disappointed. I thought that it would have been on par with "Smallville".

[riotgirl77]

I tried watching it but eh..it seemed they wanted to focus on it more looking stylish than the storylines...

[mrhan73]

THIS SHOW SUCKED IF ANY SHOW NEEDED COSTUMES IT WAS THIS ONE.

[Lazarus440]

Originally posted by mrhan73
THIS SHOW SUCKED IF ANY SHOW NEEDED COSTUMES IT WAS THIS ONE. um no it need writers more then costumes. costmes could only hide the crapeyness of the show.

[ReaperFett]

It was alright. Could be better, could be worse.

[MarvelMovies]

I saw some episodes... and didn't like it, maybe because I was expecting a lot since it was based of Batman... or thought there was going to be more action.. but nope..

[new_member]

its sucked alot, and i didnt see batman in the pilot...mabye i was in the bathroom for the 3 seconds of airtime he got???

[3dman27]

it might have been good except they were stuck with the wb's "no flights no tights"mantra [man iHATE that] costumed superheroes should wear thier costumes if you want plainclothes superheroes make them like the six million dollar man or jake2.0[undercover agents with superpowers]

[MarvelMovies]

Maybe they could bring it back... but with a different style.. and I dunno.. something else to make it better

[medguy]

NOw Austrailians can see what we hated so much... The Turds of Prey!

[lord vegeta]

i watched the final episode i likes the line "i'm gonna kill u now" mmmm and she made that sexy smirk..other than that i thought it was gonna be more,no batman camoes..grrrr

[lady_ribena]

if you would like to no it wasnt the writers or producers fault it was the WB that made the it not as good as it could have been
one of the producers answerd alot of our questions on birds of prey online
he said they couldnt put batman or the joker in it they only just managed to pursade them on putting them in for just a few secounds, they also wernt aloud to put in other big names like catwoman and all the other big villians

also most of the scripts the writers wrote had to be binned as the wb didnt want them so the scripts got rewrote and rewrote
he also said alot of the scripts they wrote and ideas they wanted to do again where said no to from the wb as they said it was to dark
also their was no person in charge he said most tv shows have a person who will direct them and put them on a stable path but their was no one to that, he also said their was other big problems, and they where just geting over most of the problems and then they where cancelled. also he said on the last 2 episodes they really had not alot of money and they didnt hjave much areas to build sets as most of their warehouse was taken over by the tom cruise film the last samari so they had to use the same gotham street over and over again

so their was alot of behind the scenes problems

[Lazarus440]

Originally posted by lady_ribena
if you would like to no it wasnt the writers or producers fault it was the WB that made the it not as good as it could have been
one of the producers answerd alot of our questions on birds of prey online
he said they couldnt put batman or the joker in it they only just managed to pursade them on putting them in for just a few secounds, they also wernt aloud to put in other big names like catwoman and all the other big villians

also most of the scripts the writers wrote had to be binned as the wb didnt want them so the scripts got rewrote and rewrote
he also said alot of the scripts they wrote and ideas they wanted to do again where said no to from the wb as they said it was to dark
also their was no person in charge he said most tv shows have a person who will direct them and put them on a stable path but their was no one to that, he also said their was other big problems, and they where just geting over most of the problems and then they where cancelled. also he said on the last 2 episodes they really had not alot of money and they didnt hjave much areas to build sets as most of their warehouse was taken over by the tom cruise film the last samari so they had to use the same gotham street over and over again

so their was alot of behind the scenes problems well if thats ture then they should have waited to make the show if it was good people would have waited and watched. people watch a good show, they won't watch bad show that is slapped togather in a weekend.

[MarvelMovieFan]

The show sucked. ALL DC TV SHOWS DO...

[Rob-el]

I watched the pilot and was disapointed but watched a couple of more shows and was even more disappointed. The only thing I can even recall from the show was the ad with the Huntress's line "I am a weapon" (which was well done). Aside from that the show was too forgettable for me

[3dman27]

Originally posted by MarvelMovies
Maybe they could bring it back... but with a different style.. and I dunno.. something else to make it better i might hope they would maybe on another network where they can do it right this time

[Raven76187]

I liked it, I watched every episode....it got better every episode...except for the last one...it wasn't just felt rushed, like they put what was gonna happen the WHOLE SECOND HALF of the season into one double(i think?) episode.

[enigmabze]

does any one if they will be putting birds of prey out on dvd any time soon?

[Deep Hardthrust]

sucked

[Mr_Rocal]

I watched the show.........it wasn't the greatest, but I watched the show. But I think the best thing about the show is Ashley Scott (the one who plays Helena/Huntress). I think that was the only reason why I watched it. Or, maybe I did like the show.............

[sithgoblin]

I just saw the second episode (I missed the first one last week)... the show is ****ing horrible. I didn't even watch all of it. I couldn't. I could feel myself getting dumber as I watched it...

[DDRSkata]

You can't expect much from WB, the writer of Tomb Raider, and the producers of Charmed...

[portland2002]

Great series. Loved it.

[clashingtitan]

The show had a lot of potential, but there were a lot of things that could have been done better, Black Canary could have been a better actress. Huntress needed a mask.

Dina Meyer was born for Batgirl/Oracle. I hope they find some way to incorporate her into the new movie.

[MarvelMovies]

I wanted it to be good... but it wasn't that great..

I watched the first couple episodes... and the first one was pretty good because it had Batman and Joker.. then went downhill..

:( Too bad, had great potential..

[Batman the 6th]

Talk about the short lived/cancelled show here. I thought it was pretty good, and was hoping that eventually Batman would return. :batty:

[twylight]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72452&highlight=Birds+Prey

[Elijya]

in all fairness, Twy, that thread is THREE years old

What's a brid, anyway?

[Batman the 6th]

twylight, the link isn't working.

[Wolfwood]

Talk about the short lived/cancelled show here. I thought it was pretty good, and was hoping that eventually Batman would return. :batty:

I think if Batman had returned, he probably wouldn't have been apart of the show.

[Batman the 6th]

But it could have given some closure, or he could be off and on, like he comes in every 2-3 epsidoes, trying to have a relationship with his daughter.

[Shifty]

Well once Smallville is finished and The Dark Knight has been released hopefully WB will do a Gotham Central show.

[MOIDANGEREUX]

http://www.ashleyscotthaven.com/Big%20ones/Big/Ashley.Scott.1.jpg

[Kebab gud]

My problem with the show was;
Huntress was the daughter of Selina kyle and Buce Wayne
Black Canary wassent Black Canary
Oracle was Camp as hell!
Harley Quinn was just weak

[Elijya]

I didn't even know they did Harley Quinn

[04nbod]

she was the pyschiatrist wasn't she?

[Batman the 6th]

Yes she was. I liked that Huntress was the daughter, but I didn't like that Bruce never tried to have a relationship with her, he just disappeared.

[Kebab gud]

They chould have done the show alot better just by making Huntress Helena Bertinelli.. MUTCH better strory..

[COMPO]

hey, does any one have a link so that i can watch it? I saw a clip on youtube. How'd did Barbara start walking again?

[04nbod]

all the episodes are on you tube

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=naru138&page=5

scroll the bar- each episode is split into five- like it had adverts

[lars573]

The show had a lot of potential, but there were a lot of things that could have been done better, Black Canary could have been a better actress. Huntress needed a mask.
The outfit she wore in the pilot worked better than the biker outfit+great coat they had her in for the rest of the series.

Dina Meyer was born for Batgirl/Oracle. I hope they find some way to incorporate her into the new movie.
Dina Meyer is a talented actress. Ashley Scot and that blonde bozo that played Canary jr. aren't. So ofcourse she would shine.

Also there is no way she could be incorporated into the new movies. She's 6 years older than Christian Bale you know. So she's 15-20 years too old for Batgirl next to Batman. How rediculous is it to have a 40 yearold Batgirl next to a 34 yearold Batman.

it might have been good except they were stuck with the wb's "no flights no tights"mantra [man iHATE that] costumed superheroes should wear thier costumes if you want plainclothes superheroes make them like the six million dollar man or jake2.0[undercover agents with superpowers]
Truth. I mean for SV it works because it's the origin of the first superhero. But in BoP you already had superheros so it makes no sense. But considring BoP obvious budget "no flight, no tights" wa a cost cutting measure rather than a narrative decision.

[Batman the 6th]

Dina Meyer could play a love interest in a sequel. Not Batgirl. Maybe she could be Catwoman.

[Primal Slayer]

its a shame that we wont be seeing another BOP live action show after this. If they made it more like the show it could actually work and not get bad ratings.

[COMPO]

hey, you know on the final fight between the BOP and Harley. WHo was that guy acting like tarzan on the gears of the clock?

[Batman the 6th]

Too bad they can't make a movie series out of it, or could they? Its not like the comic book movies follow Pre-crisis and post crisis and what not. SR, Smallville, etc.

[Abaddon]

The show was atrocious. Though I did like the chick who played Barbara.

[Kebab gud]

Lets face it .. they didnt have a hard task when they started to work on the show..
but they still got almost everything wrong..
the worst part is that they got Black Canary all wrong..
Dinah lance had the wrong powers, her mother was Black Canary, but she wassent Dinah Drake Lance.. she was Carolyn Lance.. a name that has NEVER been in the DC univers, But she did have the Canary Cry... soooo if Dinah Laura Lance changed her name and had a daughter and named her Dinah ... then Dinah Lance in BoP might have been Black Canary III... but eho is her father? Green Arrow? :P
and the show had Huntress "in charge" in a way under Oracle..
but Black Canary is the leader after Oracle.. Huntress is "just" a member

[Primal Slayer]

Thus why the show failed, helped by the very bad writing.

And they made Catwoman a meta and they made Huntress a meta...and her going all cat eyed did not help the charecter.

But atleast TheWB let them air a proper finale to the show.

[Kebab gud]

in shure that Dinah in the show was third gen Canary...
just for some reson saw the episode "sins of the mother" .. and "Carolyn" aka Black Canary mention that she was tortured.. just like Dinah Laura Lance (Black Canary II)

that kinda brings a new level to the show... still sucks.. but hey.. awnsers a few questions about dinah

[Batman the 6th]

They weren't allowed to have the daughter and or mother the actual Black Canary. Huntress eyes were messed up 2. They could have done alot of things better, and then the show could have pospered.

[Kebab gud]

in the episode"sins of the mother" "Carolyn" Lance is calld Black Canary like 20 times, the episode is even calld Black Canary in some places..
but still sucks..

[Batman the 6th]

I meant by real names, not the alter ego superhero names.

[HR-PUFF&STUFF]

this i a show that proves that you can't just slap batman onto somthing and people will watch it.

they tryed to use the smallville method of useing pre/post crisis superman. and they works fine for superman, but not for batman, you can't combine camp and dark, they are like oil and water they just don't mix.

i would have used the versions from JLU For Huntress and Black Canary. and if the show went on long enough you could have gotten Green Arrow, and the Question seeing as he worked so well off of Huntress in JLU.

[Golgo-13]

this i a show that proves that you can't just slap batman onto somthing and people will watch it.

they tryed to use the smallville method of useing pre/post crisis superman. and they works fine for superman, but not for batman, you can't combine camp and dark, they are like oil and water they just don't mix.


Well put.:up:

[Kebab gud]

You know.. the more i think about it .. the more i realise that they can do a GRATE! Birds of Prey live action TVshow for .. not really that mutch money..
and that only if they stick to comicbook storys and follow the comic continuity..

Lets sey they just start off with Black canary on a mission talking to Oracle like they do in BOP#1 .. they dont know etcother but still they talk like freinds.
and keep them seperated for about one seson and have the seson finale beeing that Canary comes to save oracle (BOP#21) and ther you have seson one! and have seson one be a mix of on the job episode and some few getting to know etcother episode and maybe ende with them bringin inn Huntress

but then again.. can you have a BOP seris without Bruce Wayne? nooo! so bring inn Christian Bale and Michael Caine for one of two cameos a seson..

i think they CAN make a good BOP show..

[HR-PUFF&STUFF]

but then again.. can you have a BOP seris without Bruce Wayne? nooo! so bring inn Christian Bale and Michael Caine for one of two cameos a seson..

i think they CAN make a good BOP show.. yes you can, is it easy, no. but if they got Writers that know what they are doing they can make it look easy.

the only time that you would need batman/Bruce is for Oracle's back story and even then you don't have to show Bruce and if shot right you wouldn't have to show him on screen and just have it be a shadow and a voice if its a flash back there is more then one way to do it.

[Kebab gud]

well you CAN have a BOP series without Bruce .. but you cant have a begining of BOP series without bruce.. after all .. he did spy on oracle for some time just to make shure she wassnt in danger

[Batman the 6th]

It seemed as if Alfred also was in contact with him, as the series finale suggested.

[HR-PUFF&STUFF]

well you CAN have a BOP series without Bruce .. but you cant have a begining of BOP series without bruce.. after all .. he did spy on oracle for some time just to make shure she wassnt in dangershow doesn't need to use that part of the comics, thats why you set the show in another city that way it keeps bats out.

[Lighthouse]

Batman would simply never leave Gotham City. That would be like Superman leaving for 5......oh wait.