Pregnency Question

[Crazy Venom]

Okay, I recently noticed that my GF hasn't been taking her BC that often, missing many days.... She ussualy gets her period every 3 weeks, and this month, it's been close to four weeks, and she still hasn't gotten it yet....

Last week though, she went to the doctor with me, because she was feeling like crap... the doctors did some blood work, then did a throat swab... turned out she had strep throat, and she was prescribed some medication.... wouldn't they automatically check for pregnency when doing bloodwork? and before prescribing medication?

I'm probably just being parinoid... but still, I'm worried.... serious answers only, thanks

[The Amazing Lee]

BABY SHOWER!

:woot:

[jaguarr]

She hasn't been taking her BC that often? *waits for someone to post one of those Star Wars "It's A Trap!" pictures*

jag

[Erzengel]

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[The Amazing Lee]

She hasn't been taking her BC that often? *waits for someone to post one of those Star Wars "It's A Trap!" pictures*

jag

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[Lurk]

Have you asked her about missing pills? Are you sure it isn't the placebo ones she's not taking?

[Angry Sentinel]

When did you notice she hadn't taken the BC? And WHY didn't you say anything?

[The Amazing Lee]

What is BC? :confused:

[Crazy Venom]

When did you notice she hadn't taken the BC? And WHY didn't you say anything?

a few weeks back... I did say something, and we haven't had sex since....

[Lurk]

BC=birth control


Sooooo, why haven't you asked her to take a pregnancy test? And what was her response about not taking the pills?

[The Amazing Lee]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

[Crazy Venom]

BC=birth control


Sooooo, why haven't you asked her to take a pregnancy test? And what was her response about not taking the pills?

well, she has no "signs" yet.... but last week, she went to doctor because she felt like crap, and they did a bunch of tests.... wouldn't they check for that in a 21 year old sexualy active girl?

[Crazy Venom]

Have you asked her about missing pills? Are you sure it isn't the placebo ones she's not taking?

she took half of the real pills..... this is the first month she did this.... she always took them religously before.. she said she skipped a few because she was feeling sick off of them....

[Angry Sentinel]

a few weeks back... I did say something, and we haven't had sex since.... She's not a girlfriend, she's

THE DEVIL!:yellow:

Seriously, you and her have to have a very long talk about starting a family. And YES, if they actually ran blood work, they would have informed her if she was pregnant or not.

So maybe this is something else she isn't telling you.

[Erzengel]

well, she has no "signs" yet.... but last week, she went to doctor because she felt like crap, and they did a bunch of tests.... wouldn't they check for that in a 21 year old sexualy active girl?

Feeling like crap is kinda a broad, general issue.

Does she feel fatiqued, nausea, peeing a lot, sensitivity to odors, her girls are swollen?

[Duende Verde]

Venom, You So Crazy!

[Crazy Venom]

She's not a girlfriend, she's

THE DEVIL!:yellow:

Seriously, you and her have to have a very long talk about starting a family. And YES, if they actually ran blood work, they would have informed her if she was pregnant or not.

So maybe this is something else she isn't telling you.

well she's isn't my GF, she's actually my fiance.....

sucks, because today's my birthday, and this is the only thing on my mind...

that's what I though, because before prescribing meds, they would have to know if she's pregnent of not...

[Ultimate_Superman]

Do you warp it up or go bareback because if you bareback it this is as much as your fault as it is hers

[Crazy Venom]

Feeling like crap is kinda a broad, general issue.

Does she feel fatiqued, nausea, peeing a lot, sensitivity to odors, her girls are swollen?

well, that's why they did a blood test... and they never said if she was or wasn't...

[X-Chick]

well, she has no "signs" yet.... but last week, she went to doctor because she felt like crap, and they did a bunch of tests.... wouldn't they check for that in a 21 year old sexualy active girl?

You don't get any signs or symptoms until you're a few weeks into your pregnancy. They don't just pop up the moment of conception. And no, not all doctors check for that, but most would. Most likely, she's just late because taking the pills sporadically screwed up her cycle. She needs to either take them every day or not at all. Also, you need to be careful because after coming off birth control, you are more fertile than before you started taking them. So, if's she not pregnant now, she very well could become pregnant in the near future.

[Crazy Venom]

Do you warp it up or go bareback because if you bareback it this is as much as your fault as it is hers

I'm not directly placing the blame on her, it is half my fualt if she is..... I just wish she would have told me she stopped, then I would have bought some porn.... lol....

[Crazy Venom]

You don't get any signs or symptoms until you're a few weeks into your pregnancy. They don't just pop up the moment of conception. And no, not all doctors check for that, but most would. Most likely, she's just late because taking the pills sporadically screwed up her cycle. She needs to either take them every day or not at all. Also, you need to be careful because after coming off birth control, you are more fertile than before you started taking them. So, if's she not pregnant now, she very well could become pregnant in the near future.

gotcha...

well, last month, her period ended, then we had sex right away.. the next day she got her BC.... we didn't do anything for atleast 5 days.... she took the pills those 5 days, then stopped... she took 5 sparitacly the next two weeks, and we only had sex twice during those times....

wouldn't they check before prescribing medication though

[The Amazing Lee]

Venom, You So Crazy!

LOL"!

[Crazy Venom]

LOL"!

I know, i hate my new SN..... miss my old one

[The Amazing Lee]

It's not a bad screen name. Just Deunde made it seem funny. :woot::up:

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I'm probably just being parinoid.
parAnoid. :csad:

[jaguarr]

I'm not directly placing the blame on her, it is half my fualt if she is..... I just wish she would have told me she stopped, then I would have bought some porn.... lol....

Son...nobody actually PAYS for porn these days. At any rate, yeah...time for some serious discussion with your girl to find out what's really going on.

jag

[Duende Verde]

well she's isn't my GF, she's actually my fiance.....

sucks, because today's my birthday, and this is the only thing on my mind...

that's what I though, because before prescribing meds, they would have to know if she's pregnent of not...
Why didn't you say so before!
Lets turn this thread into a
"Happy Birthday, Crazy Venom!" thread.:up::up::up:


Happy Birthday, Venom! You SO Crazy!http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j144/duende_verde/ddevil.gif:sym:http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j144/duende_verde/wolvhappy.gif

[Erzengel]

Today on SHH
http://www.elektronikaldia.org/2001/imagen/Hitop_After_School_Special_.jpg

Crazy Venom and Girlfriend could be pregnant.

CV: Have you taken your birth control pills?
GF: No, I forgot today.

GF: I don't feel so good.
CV: I should take you to the doctor.

How will they deal with this?

Find out on a Very Special Episode of SHH! Community.

"People smile and tell me I'm the lucky one....
And we've just begun...
Think I'm going have a son...."

[The Amazing Lee]

Pregnancy scare AND a birthday thread....all we need now is some aids and this thread has EVERYTHING!

[Crazy Venom]

Today on SHH
http://www.elektronikaldia.org/2001/imagen/Hitop_After_School_Special_.jpg

Crazy Venom and Girlfriend could be pregnant.

CV: Have you taken your birth control pills?
GF: No, I forgot today.

GF: I don't feel so good.
CV: I should take you to the doctor.

How will they deal with this?

Find out on a Very Special Episode of SHH! Community.

"People try and tell me I'm the lucky one....
And it just begun...
Think I'm going to have a son....

:up:

[Lurk]

Once you start messing with the regularity of your BC pill consumption, you are at a greatly increased risk to get pregnant. Some doctors even suggest that taking pills at different times of the day can have an effect. If she thinks she's getting sick from them (which is possible), she needs to tell her doctor and find an alternative BC method. But she can't just take the pills when she feels like it and think she's "protected" because she popped a pill that day.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Pregnancy scare AND a birthday thread....all we need now is some aids and this thread has EVERYTHING!There's a little puddle of it in the backroom, if only I had a scanner.

[The Amazing Lee]

There's a little puddle of it in the backroom, if only I had a scanner.

Cup some, for later evidence. :up:

[The Amazing Lee]

GAH had a pregnancy scare....then he realised, you can't get your hand pregnant. :o:up:

[y2jversion1]

Once you start messing with the regularity of your BC pill consumption, you are at a greatly increased risk to get pregnant. Some doctors even suggest that taking pills at different times of the day can have an affect. If she thinks she's getting sick from them (which is possible), she needs to tell her doctor and find an alternative BC method. But she can't just take the pills when she feels like it and think she's "protected" because she popped a pill that day.

Or... just use a got-dang condom so the poor girl don't have to flurk with her hormones!

[Lurk]

Yeah, that would fall under the category of "alternative BC method."

[Erzengel]

http://www.jwolfe.clara.net/Humour/NonMedPicts/SpermPassedTonsils.jpg

[Mr Sparkle]

Venom, You So Crazy!

you know the best part.
a guy that has a "pregnency" question is bringing another human life into the planet...possibly.


YAY!

[Mr Sparkle]

oh, he also wrote "parinoid"
oh holy mother of gawd.


he's having a kid....YAY!

[Jplaya2023]

Okay, I recently noticed that my GF hasn't been taking her BC that often, missing many days.... She ussualy gets her period every 3 weeks, and this month, it's been close to four weeks, and she still hasn't gotten it yet....

Last week though, she went to the doctor with me, because she was feeling like crap... the doctors did some blood work, then did a throat swab... turned out she had strep throat, and she was prescribed some medication.... wouldn't they automatically check for pregnency when doing bloodwork? and before prescribing medication?

I'm probably just being parinoid... but still, I'm worried.... serious answers only, thanks

damn son you bout to be a daddy. And you trusting females taking birthcontrol? SMH? I hope you had some rubbers on.

Jplaya Styles *Slaps Tray Venom in the back of his head with Clippers*

Jplaya Styles "Boy what i tell you about not using condoms, I'm to young to be a grandfather"

[redmarvel]

Once you start messing with the regularity of your BC pill consumption, you are at a greatly increased risk to get pregnant. Some doctors even suggest that taking pills at different times of the day can have an affect. If she thinks she's getting sick from them (which is possible), she needs to tell her doctor and find an alternative BC method. But she can't just take the pills when she feels like it and think she's "protected" because she popped a pill that day.

And THIS is why you should always use at least 2 methods of protection.

Another thing you may not have known, cold remedies will also affect the BC pill. My sister got pregnant twice because she did not know that the cold remedy she was taking counter-acted the BC pill (yeah, she only figured it out after the second child - she's blond).

[Jplaya2023]

And THIS is why you should always use at least 2 methods of protection.

Another thing you may not have known, cold remedies will also affect the BC pill. My sister got pregnant twice because she did not know that the cold remedy she was taking counter-acted the BC pill (yeah, she only figured it out after the second child - she's blond).


how old is she? You didnt slap the sheeeit outta her and her man the first time?

[Lackey]

birth control pills are bad for you... I hope your girlfriend smokes

[AndThePickles]

Okay, I recently noticed that my GF hasn't been taking her BC that often, missing many days.... She ussualy gets her period every 3 weeks, and this month, it's been close to four weeks, and she still hasn't gotten it yet....

Last week though, she went to the doctor with me, because she was feeling like crap... the doctors did some blood work, then did a throat swab... turned out she had strep throat, and she was prescribed some medication.... wouldn't they automatically check for pregnency when doing bloodwork? and before prescribing medication?

I'm probably just being parinoid... but still, I'm worried.... serious answers only, thanks

Oh boy. Ok, first of all: Your girlfriend should be taking her pills at the same time EVERY DAY. If she keeps missing days then guess what, she's taking birth control for nothing because it isn't preventing pregnancy unless they're being taken properly.

Second of all: no, no doctor will "automatically" check for pregnancy during bloodwork, how silly. I highly doubt that strep throat medication would be dangerous to a pregnant woman or yes, they WOULD have asked her if she was pregnant and done a test. You need to get your girlfriend tested pronto though if she hasn't been taking her pills.

[triplefive]

well, she has no "signs" yet.... but last week, she went to doctor because she felt like crap, and they did a bunch of tests.... wouldn't they check for that in a 21 year old sexualy active girl?
She's not taking her pills on time, so there's a HUGE risk... but then you said you haven't been having sex since.

Anyway, it's possible that since she got the bloodwork done due to feeling fatigued, they might have checked for pregnancy. I went for a similar issue a couple years ago and they checked for anemia, pregnancy and mono among other things.

It's not a guarantee though, if you don't specifically ask the doctor to check for it. You could buy her a couple home pregnancy tests -- the better ones can tell you very soon after your missed period.

However, it also could be that her period is late because of her inconsistency with the pill... but just to be safe, I'd try out a test.

[The Amazing Lee]

Let me guess....she stuck the pills up her baby box and thought that would protect her? :o:up:

[black_dust]

If she is taking meds like Aniti bios that will **** her pill up they dont work when taking any type of antibiotics. Also if she isnt taking them in some sort of routine everyday you screwed basicaly. you should really just talk to HER about it and not us.

[triplefive]

If she is taking meds like Aniti bios that will **** her pill up they dont work when taking any type of antibiotics. Also if she isnt taking them in some sort of routine everyday you screwed basicaly. you should really just talk to HER about it and not us.
SERIOUSLY.

She should also consider other methods, like the shot, or an IUD, or any of the many other methods of birth control out there that don't involve remembering to take a pill every day.

[black_dust]

SERIOUSLY.

She should also consider other methods, like the shot, or an IUD, or any of the many other methods of birth control out there that don't involve remembering to take a pill every day.
Indeed if you have a ****ty memory over somthing as important as that, a shot would be way better. thats somthing like once a month or somthing aint it?

Or better yet wrap your tool!

[AndThePickles]

I've heard good things about the shot. Just don't have her go on the birth control patch, there's been a heap of problems with it.

[Canadian Rider]

I feel very old suddenly explaining to a Grown man that his responsibility is to lead by example - ie Condom and multiple forms of Birth Control - and that if you fiancé is doing this now, what do you think your marriage will be like?

You need to speak to her and sort this out brother. Tell her your concerns and get some home tests.

Then go to the pharmacist and get yourself some rubbers.

Then get your GF/fiancé into her doctor -- the pill is bad for a lot of woman and see if you can find something else.

Then get yourself into some couples counselling so you can learn how to communicate.

Then please take any firearms you may own and drop them off at the nearest police station. If you are running around shooting off sperm creating new lives like this, you scare me in terms of your responsibility. :wow:

[Lurk]

I think you're only supposed to do the shots for a limited number of years. Nuvaring is a nice option; it has a lower dose of hormones and you only deal with it once a month instead of every day.

[AndThePickles]

The only caution I've heard about those rings is that if you tend to have rigorous sex in many positions, this is probably not the best option for you because the ring tends to pop out.

[Darthphere]

You know its sad the people who can't even spell pregnancy are old enough to actually get someone pregnant.

[triplefive]

I've heard good things about the shot. Just don't have her go on the birth control patch, there's been a heap of problems with it.
The shot's not recommended if you're short and have a small build, or have a family history of osteoporosis, and ... something else.

You take it four times a year. It's recommended that you stop after two years because of problems with bone loss (hence the recommendations)



Or just make pill-taking routine... if people can remember to brush their teeth twice a day, they should be able to remember to take a little pill.

[triplefive]

The only caution I've heard about those rings is that if you tend to have rigorous sex in many positions, this is probably not the best option for you because the ring tends to pop out.
That would be SO awkward :dry:

[Wilhelm-Scream]

The only caution I've heard about those rings is that if you tend to have rigorous sex in many positions, this is probably not the best option for you because the ring tends to pop out.But they're fine for sedentary sex.

[triplefive]

But they're fine for sedentary sex.
:fans self:

[The Amazing Lee]

Someone told me and I can't remember who it was, I think it may have been my girlfriend, but one of her friend's said the ring came out when she had the baby, ans the baby was holding it :up:

[AndThePickles]

The shot's not recommended if you're short and have a small build, or have a family history of osteoporosis, and ... something else.

You take it four times a year. It's recommended that you stop after two years because of problems with bone loss (hence the recommendations)



Or just make pill-taking routine... if people can remember to brush their teeth twice a day, they should be able to remember to take a little pill.

Hmm. Yeah, I think just taking the pill is the best thing......it really IS NOT hard...baffles me when women can't remember to do it. I even have an alarm set on my cell phone to remind me.

[Lurk]

The only caution I've heard about those rings is that if you tend to have rigorous sex in many positions, this is probably not the best option for you because the ring tends to pop out.

You can take it out for three hours at a time if it interferes with sex.

[triplefive]

I've missed a pill three times in four years.

I always associate it with something, whichever is most consistent with my life at the time. Lunch, dinner, bedtime, etc.

[Lurk]

Someone told me and I can't remember who it was, I think it may have been my girlfriend, but one of her friend's said the ring came out when she had the baby, ans the baby was holding it :up:

That sounds like a giant load of crap. Why would she be using birth control if she's pregnant? Besides, unless it was a surprise birth, the doctors would take that out first.

[The Amazing Lee]

I have no idea. it just didn't work. :confused:

[comicgirl]

Son...nobody actually PAYS for porn these days. At any rate, yeah...time for some serious discussion with your girl to find out what's really going on.

jagBetter yet, how 'bout you wrap it up. If you don't take precautions on your end, you've got nothing to say afterward. An unplanned pregnancy would be the least of your worries.

[PhePhe112]

i did the depo shot. i got it every three months. it was def easy to remember. i stopped tho because when you do want to have baby it takes forever to be able to. i was on it for a year and that's how long it took to be fertile again.

[Kyalesyin]

What the heck is with people saying that doc should have tested for pregnancy straight away?! They can't legally pregnancy test you over here unless you specifically request it. Otherwise, you can take them to court for invasion of privacy... damn.

I can't take the pill- gives me morning sickness, which sucks when you're not even pregnant. My advice? Use condoms. Absolute failsafe, and ask your damn girlfriend about it.

[Crazy Venom]

well, I went to her work, and dropped off a pregnency test... yeah, that didn't go well...

[Crazy Venom]

well, I went to her work, and dropped off a pregnency test... yeah, that didn't go well...

[Kaleb]

I really wish I could find my gif of the episode of family guy when peter pushes lewis down the stairs after asking if she is pregnant :(

[Mr Sparkle]

You know its sad the people who can't even spell pregnancy are old enough to actually get someone pregnant.

you know the best part.
a guy that has a "pregnency" question is bringing another human life into the planet...possibly.


YAY!

are Darthphere and I the only ones that appreciate this? :confused:

[Wilhelm-Scream]

My advice? Use condoms. Absolute failsafe,lol, wrong.

[Kaleb]

dont catholics practice it in da butt, to prevent this type of problem?

[Lurk]

Are you serious?

[triplefive]

lol, wrong.
seriously. been there -- never, ever want to go through that again.

[Kyalesyin]

seriously. been there -- never, ever want to go through that again.

Still better for you than just the pill, or indeed 'lets play our luck!'

[Wilhelm-Scream]

:fans self:She hops on and I sit on the washing machine and we calmly wait for orgasm.

[triplefive]

Still better for you than just the pill, or indeed 'lets play our luck!'
anything is better than "let's play our luck!"

but just, due to my very personal experience, i would not rely solely on a condom for birth control.

certainly, people should always use them if they're not in a monogamous relationship in which both parties' sexual histories check out... but condoms are definitely not failsafe.


eta: just realized how this sounds, so for clarification: i was lucky, i didn't get pregnant.

[Crazy Venom]

well, she took the test this morning and she is indeed pregnent....

[Erzengel]

So I guess congratulations are in order.

[Crazy Venom]

So I guess congratulations are in order.

don't know what we are going to do.... right now, I just graduated college, and am working at a entry level, so i don't make decent money yet.... I'm 23, and honestly, I'm not mature enough to handle raising a child.

[Canadian Rider]

Pregnant.

Now what?

[Lurk]

How did she take the news? It seems strange that she'd be upset when you brought her a pregnancy test (post #70).

[jaguarr]

well, she took the test this morning and she is indeed pregnent....

Was the test one you bought for her? If that came out positive, she needs to get in and get the appropriate tests done with her doctor to truly confirm. Those store bought tests are usually right, but occassionally they have a misreading. She'll want to connect with her doc on this, anyway, though.

jag

[jaguarr]

don't know what we are going to do.... right now, I just graduated college, and am working at a entry level, so i don't make decent money yet.... I'm 23, and honestly, I'm not mature enough to handle raising a child.

One thing young couples in your situation who really aren't ready to have a family have done is to put the baby up for adoption prior to delivery and found a good, loving family who is ready and prepared to have a child. Your fiancee' most likely would never go for that, I'm guessing, but it is an option that is available to you.

jag

[redmarvel]

how old is she? You didnt slap the sheeeit outta her and her man the first time?

They were married... what kind of sister would I be if I did that? :wow:

[redmarvel]

don't know what we are going to do.... right now, I just graduated college, and am working at a entry level, so i don't make decent money yet.... I'm 23, and honestly, I'm not mature enough to handle raising a child.

Well you have a few choices.

1. Do the "right" thing, get married and raise the child to the best of your ability.
2. Don't get married but help her support the child.
3. Put the child up for adoption (but this will ruin your relationship)
4. Encourage her to have an abortion (but this will ruin your relationship)
5. Take off, disclaiming any and all responsibility.

[Canadian Rider]

don't know what we are going to do.... right now, I just graduated college, and am working at a entry level, so i don't make decent money yet.... I'm 23, and honestly, I'm not mature enough to handle raising a child.

Wow. That is pretty honest. I wonder why people feel they are responsible enough to handle sex but not the consequences. The same with those who drink too much, then drive.

We all have choices to make and know you and your GF have some very tough and life changing things you need to face. As suggested adoption is a very viable way to approach this.

You may be surprised by what she wants to do now, but definitely she needs to get into the Doctor and see how she and her baby are doing.

My prayers are with you and her at this time brother.

[Canadian Rider]

Well you have a few choices.

1. Do the "right" thing, get married and raise the child to the best of your ability.
2. Don't get married but help her support the child.
3. Put the child up for adoption (but this will ruin your relationship)
4. Encourage her to have an abortion (but this will ruin your relationship)
5. Take off, disclaiming any and all responsibility.

Query -- does number 5 not ruin the relationship? Just curious.

He doesn't have a choice with number 2. If it is his, he has to pay child support. He also need to find out if she wants him in her life.

There is a court case pending right now where a woman got pregnant even though the BF did not want a child. She did so by not taking her BC pills. Sounds strangely familiar ...

[redmarvel]

Query -- does number 5 not ruin the relationship? Just curious.

He doesn't have a choice with number 2. If it is his, he has to pay child support. He also need to find out if she wants him in her life.

There is a court case pending right now where a woman got pregnant even though the BF did not want a child. She did so by not taking her BC pills. Sounds strangely familiar ...

If he goes with option 5, there's nothing to ruin because he really wasn't concerned about the relationship and it was toast anyways.

As far as option 2 goes, willingly paying child support and being ordered to do so by a court of law are two very different things. Even though some folks have been ordered to pay child support, you'ld be amazed at how many do not do so. Also, there is more to supporting a child than just the money. There is also a "time" component, spending time with the child, letting her have a break now and again.

[jaguarr]

Well you have a few choices.

1. Do the "right" thing, get married and raise the child to the best of your ability.
2. Don't get married but help her support the child.
3. Put the child up for adoption (but this will ruin your relationship)
4. Encourage her to have an abortion (but this will ruin your relationship)
5. Take off, disclaiming any and all responsibility.

You say some of these things will ruin their relationship with absolute certainty and that's really not true. It MAY ruin their relationship, it may not. Every couple, their relationship, circumstances, maturity and bond are different. You can't say for sure how they will or will not be impacted by some of these things.

jag

[Canadian Rider]

If he goes with option 5, there's nothing to ruin because he really wasn't concerned about the relationship and it was toast anyways.

True enough.

As far as option 2 goes, willingly paying child support and being ordered to do so by a court of law are two very different things. Even though some folks have been ordered to pay child support, you'ld be amazed at how many do not do so. Also, there is more to supporting a child than just the money. There is also a "time" component, spending time with the child, letting her have a break now and again.

Also true. You have refined and broadened/expanded the thought.

[redmarvel]

You say some of these things will ruin their relationship with absolute certainty and that's really not true. It MAY ruin their relationship, it may not. Every couple, their relationship, circumstances, maturity and bond are different. You can't say for sure how they will or will not be impacted by some of these things.

jag

Frankly, as far as I know, I don't know anyone who has put a child up for adoption or had an abortion. However, they would have to have a very unusual relationship to be willing to stay together after separating their lives from the life they created together.

[mightiest_mortal]

Well you have a few choices.

1. Do the "right" thing, get married and raise the child to the best of your ability.
2. Don't get married but help her support the child.
3. Put the child up for adoption (but this will ruin your relationship)
4. Encourage her to have an abortion (but this will ruin your relationship)
5. Take off, disclaiming any and all responsibility.

Ooh Ooh! Option 5 option 5!

Thats why i never tell people my real name. It makes situations like these so much easier :)

[lars573]

don't know what we are going to do.... right now, I just graduated college, and am working at a entry level, so i don't make decent money yet.... I'm 23, and honestly, I'm not mature enough to handle raising a child.
Nobody ever is. My dad is 52 and has been a father for 25 years, and he still acts like he's 19. He's only just started saying how he has to start saving money for the future. :whatever: Having seen how all my cousins have handled the whole parenthood thing. The best you can hope for is not unprepared.

Still it seems your still freaking out. Which is fine (I know I would be). Just don't do it for too long. You've graduated uni which means you have good prospects for a career. And thus a good financial situation, better than you might think. It just means you'll have to go without some luxueries till you can get the decent money.

1. Do the "right" thing, get married and raise the child to the best of your ability.
2. Don't get married but help her support the child.
Why do they have to get married ASAP? Marriage certificate has zero bearing on how much of a family you are.

[jaguarr]

Frankly, as far as I know, I don't know anyone who has put a child up for adoption or had an abortion. However, they would have to have a very unusual relationship to be willing to stay together after separating their lives from the life they created together.

So, I DO know couples who have done BOTH of those things. Four of them, actually. Only one had marriage problems as a direct result and they sought counselling and worked through it together. The others are still married and happy. *bigI'mnotadoctorbutIplayoneonTVshrug*

jag

[redmarvel]

Why do they have to get married ASAP? Marriage certificate has zero bearing on how much of a family you are.

They don't have to. That's what option 2 is for.

[AndThePickles]

Not surprised one bit that she's pregnant. Good luck with that.

[Superman79]

Well you have a few choices.

1. Do the "right" thing, get married and raise the child to the best of your ability.
2. Don't get married but help her support the child.
3. Put the child up for adoption (but this will ruin your relationship)
4. Encourage her to have an abortion (but this will ruin your relationship)
5. Take off, disclaiming any and all responsibility.


Far as I'm concerned #'s 1-3 are the OONLY options, but then again, this isn't gonna be my kid. Honestly, knowing your a decent guy, CV...if you love her then run with #1 but if not, 3 would likely be the best for the kid (you know happy family with a mommy and a daddy).

I have a friend that has adopted 3 kids with his wife...honestly they are the coolest/kindest/picture perfect family I know...:woot:

[Kyalesyin]

Damn.. not sure if congrats are in order or not. Whatever happens to the baby though, really its her choice first and foremost. It might not stay. A vast number of pregnancies miscarry naturally before three months. I know that for a fact. Thats why you never formally announce it before then.

Whatever happens, don't make a choice you'll regret because it seems like what you should do. Make a choice that feels right to you.

[Son Of Logan]

Whatever happens to the baby though, really its her choice first and foremost.

Why do people always say this? If a woman has more right to make the decision than the man then how is it we can be held responsible for child support? The man has just as much right and just as much say to something that is his flesh too!

[Dew k. Mosi]

don't know what we are going to do.... right now, I just graduated college, and am working at a entry level, so i don't make decent money yet.... I'm 23, and honestly, I'm not mature enough to handle raising a child.
Then, you weren't mature enough to have unprotected sex, even with her taking the pill (which I assume atthe time you thought she was taking it properly.) Sex is great. It feels good and it's fun to do when done right. But it is not without risks, and if you aren't prepared for the consequences then the risks are too great. You will have to do what needs to be done. Your life is no longer your own. It belongs to that child and you will have to do what it takes to make it right. If that means a second job, if that means you can't spend your money on beer and comic books, if that means getting married, if that means being a grown up, you BOTH have to do it, end of story.

[Crazy Venom]

Then, you weren't mature enough to have unprotected sex, even with her taking the pill (which I assume atthe time you thought she was taking it properly.) Sex is great. It feels good and it's fun to do when done right. But it is not without risks, and if you aren't prepared for the consequences then the risks are too great. You will have to do what needs to be done. Your life is no longer your own. It belongs to that child and you will have to do what it takes to make it right. If that means a second job, if that means you can't spend your money on beer and comic books, if that means getting married, if that means being a grown up, you BOTH have to do it, end of story.

That's really easier said then done.... we are engaged, and have been for the past 3 months, and we have lived together for more then a year...

If it was soley up to me, and I know it's not, I would have her have an abortion, I have beer pro-life my whole life, except for extreme circumstances; life threatening, rape, incest. But like I said, I can not support a child right now, I'm paying back around 40grand worth of student loans, paying rent, car payment, insurance, all that good stuff, and I'm sure plenty of you know what that's like. It sounds selfish, and maybe in a way it is, but I don't want to be making the choice of paying the electric bill or buying diapers.... she is unsure right now what she want's to do, and I can understand, it's her body, her life.... abortion can cause serious mental problems as well as serious bodily harm.... what if she has it and is unable to get pregnent again because of it? what if she suffers from serious post partem depression?.... that's why, I told her we need to first sit down and discuss everything.... there are so many issues to take into account...

if we decide to have it... money issues? daycare? family, since her's is deeply religious? if we decide to go the abortion route, all the issues I stated above plus more I probably haven't even thought of...

it's just hard, right now I don't even know who I am... and whoever said it was right, my life will be his, and vice-versa...... so much to think about,

[Kyalesyin]

Why do people always say this? If a woman has more right to make the decision than the man then how is it we can be held responsible for child support? The man has just as much right and just as much say to something that is his flesh too!

Because she's the one that has to carry it and she's the one that has to squeeze it out. I'm not saying men should be absolved of the responsibility but the mother is the one getting put through the emotional wringer on a much deeper level. The father can say 'go on, keep it' but he isn't the one putting up with being pregnant, giving birth and all the stuff that goes along with it. At the end of the day, its her body.

[Crazy Venom]

by the way, my name is an Alias, I'm not a n00b... I think my other SN is at over 6,000 posts..... FYI... just trying to show this is not a joke....

[Kyalesyin]

So, why use the alias?

[Crazy Venom]

So, why use the alias?

just seemed like a good idea at the time, in retrospect, it didn't matter because everyone's name is an alias on here, it's not like anyone here know's me personaly.... but whatever... not really the point anymore

[Kyalesyin]

just seemed like a good idea at the time, in retrospect, it didn't matter because everyone's name is an alias on here, it's not like anyone here know's me personaly.... but whatever... not really the point anymore

So, effectively you didn't want this hampering the way the regular posters look at 'you' under your other alias? Lame.

[Crazy Venom]

So, effectively you didn't want this hampering the way the regular posters look at 'you' under your other alias? Lame.

agreed... but, if i did use my other SN, people would have thought I was joking.... but anyways, back to topic....

has anyone ever heard of mifepristone.....? Like I said, we are unsure of what we will do, I just want every option layed out in front of us.... I looked up stuff on this drug, and really didn't find anything of use... not going to go by what wikipedia says

[Kyalesyin]

agreed... but, if i did use my other SN, people would have thought I was joking.... but anyways, back to topic....

I think I can repeat that lame...

Back on topic- made any life-changing decisions yet?

[Crazy Venom]

I think I can repeat that lame...

Back on topic- made any life-changing decisions yet?

no, my mother (OBGYN) and my fiance went out for dinner tonight to discuss the hole situation......

[Gotendbz-2]

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[Kyalesyin]

no, my mother (OBGYN) and my fiance went out for dinner tonight to discuss the hole situation......

And you aren't with them why?

[Crazy Venom]

And you aren't with them why?

lets just say i broke the news to my mom this morning, and she isn't too thrilled to say the least.... she said she wants to talk to Katie alone... and the truth is, I rather have them do it.. she can become some submissive around me, and not be as vocal with her feelings (trust me, something we are working on), so I rather let her discuss it alone, female to female, plus, there is no one better to talk to then my mom, since she is knowlegable in the field....

[Angry Sentinel]

let's be honest... it's not the JUST the financial burden that you are not ready for. A child means, your life is not your own anymore. Which in reality it was always that way, but for some reason a child helps us to understand that like nothing else can. So what you really don't want is the responsibility. I won't try to tell you what to do, but you are going to have to be REALLY, BRUTALLY, HONEST with yourself and then that young woman about how you see yourself measuring up. THIS WILL NOT BE EASY, but if you do it right things will eventually be good again.

[Kyalesyin]

lets just say i broke the news to my mom this morning, and she isn't too thrilled to say the least.... she said she wants to talk to Katie alone... and the truth is, I rather have them do it.. she can become some submissive around me, and not be as vocal with her feelings (trust me, something we are working on), so I rather let her discuss it alone, female to female, plus, there is no one better to talk to then my mom, since she is knowlegable in the field....

Fair enough. I must admit I wouldn't subject anyone to my mother if she was in the wrong mood. Hope it goes well, to be honest. This isn't a nice situation to be in. I had a similar situation when I was fifteen.

[Scarlett]

I'm on the shot, and it works great.

[Kyalesyin]

I wish it did the same for me. Gave me morning sickness.

[triplefive]

good luck with whatever you end up doing, JN!

[triplefive]

I wish it did the same for me. Gave me morning sickness.
i hope you don't mind my asking, but why do you need birth control anyway?

[Kyalesyin]

i hope you don't mind my asking, but why do you need birth control anyway?

I wasn't born married you know.

Actually, its because I was in competitive martial arts. Periods on competition day? Not good when you're wearing white. Worked fine for stopping them. Gave me morning sickness instead. I know which I prefer.

[Crazy Venom]

let's be honest... it's not the JUST the financial burden that you are not ready for. A child means, your life is not your own anymore. Which in reality it was always that way, but for some reason a child helps us to understand that like nothing else can. So what you really don't want is the responsibility. I won't try to tell you what to do, but you are going to have to be REALLY, BRUTALLY, HONEST with yourself and then that young woman about how you see yourself measuring up. THIS WILL NOT BE EASY, but if you do it right things will eventually be good again.

that's the issue.... I am not responsible enough right now, and I thik it would be iresponsible for me to raise someone right now... in a few years maybe, but right now I am not ready... how can someone, who has no idea who they are, raise someone correctly.... and that's just me... my fiance, couldn't even remember to take her BC.... how is she going to be able to get the child up, dress him, get him to wherever, then get to work, she can't, she has trouble right now, she's your typical 21 year old girl.... right now in her life, I couldn't trust her taking care of the baby while I'm away... I start work at 6am ussualy, and work till 6pm or later....

and yes, budget is an issue... the world revolved around money sadly..... if I can't afford food one week, WTF... I can live off a Raman Noodles, but a baby can't... what about daycare, my parents are in there mid 40s and both work over 60 hours a week, so they can't take care of them, plus, they have a five year old........ who is taken care of by my grandparents while they work... two 80 year olds can't handle a baby, so what should I do, pay for sub par child care, and wait for the call that they left my child in the van on a summer day.... it's not feasable right now.... I may seem selfish, but I see myself as being realalistic....

adobtion will never fly with her.....

[triplefive]

I wasn't born married you know.

Actually, its because I was in competitive martial arts. Periods on competition day? Not good when you're wearing white. Worked fine for stopping them. Gave me morning sickness instead. I know which I prefer.
ah.. how many kinds of pills have you tried? i went through 3 before i found one that worked for me.

[Kyalesyin]

ah.. how many kinds of pills have you tried? i went through 3 before i found one that worked for me.

Five or six. Nice for control and good for skirting periods around key training sessions and competiton matches but all gave me morning sickness and with three of them my body was overring the pill and back on my regular cycle after four months. I always ended up overriding the pill and I'd be on in the high hormone week and not get anything during the off week, all that ****.

[Angry Sentinel]

adobtion will never fly with her..... Maybe not, but she should still know how you feel. and I mean all of how you feel. Just the fact that you've been honest with her will help you in the long run.

More importantly, do you have a religious faith?

[triplefive]

Five or six. Nice for control and good for skirting periods around key training sessions and competiton matches but all gave me morning sickness and with three of them my body was overring the pill and back on my regular cycle after four months. I always ended up overriding the pill and I'd be on in the high hormone week and not get anything during the off week, all that ****.
:down i just remember that the first one made me bat**** crazy. the other two weren't strong enough.

[Kyalesyin]

:down i just remember that the first one made me bat**** crazy. the other two weren't strong enough.

I kept going up stronger and stronger, but the stronger they got the worse the morning sickness got. The shot was the same. I just overrode it after seven weeks.

After that I gave up on pills and jabs and went for damage control.

[Crazy Venom]

Maybe not, but she should still know how you feel. and I mean all of how you feel. Just the fact that you've been honest with her will help you in the long run.

More importantly, do you have a religious faith?

not lately..... long story short, I was drugged, and raped by my male cousin 5 years ago.... ever since then, my whole extended family blamed me, my cousin then "found god" and everyone threw that in my face, saying I should forgive him because he's all religious now... after that, my faith went down the toliet.... all goes back to me not knowing who I am anymore.... really sucks when you have no one but your parents..... but atleast I have them...

[Kyalesyin]

not lately..... long story short, I was drugged, and raped by my male cousin 5 years ago.... ever since then, my whole extended family blamed me, my cousin then "found god" and everyone threw that in my face, saying I should forgive him because he's all religious now... after that, my faith went down the toliet.... all goes back to me not knowing who I am anymore.... really sucks when you have no one but your parents..... but atleast I have them...

Wow. Thats harsh. My family did at least excommunicate my cousin for doing the same. You can still keep your faith though- faith is what you make it hon.

[Crazy Venom]

Wow. Thats harsh. My family did at least excommunicate my cousin for doing the same. You can still keep your faith though- faith is what you make it hon.

I know, and I really wish I had some....

that's another thing though, is I have a real bad side to me... violent angry side.... it's scarry sometimes... not to showboat, but I'm a pretty decent size guy, 6'3" 225lb... avid kickboxer and wieghtlifter.... my violent side came after that above incident... I'm still trying to "terminate" that side of myself... but it's not gone yet... I would never want my child to see that side of me unless it was completely for the right reasons...

[Kritish]

I think she's trying to get knocked up so you'll feel compelled to marry her.
Don't fall for it, if she gets prego leave her, 'cause she probably did it on purpose.

[Kritish]

not lately..... long story short, I was drugged, and raped by my male cousin 5 years ago.... ever since then, my whole extended family blamed me, my cousin then "found god" and everyone threw that in my face, saying I should forgive him because he's all religious now... after that, my faith went down the toliet.... all goes back to me not knowing who I am anymore.... really sucks when you have no one but your parents..... but atleast I have them...

Yep, as long as they make a quick prayer that asks god to forgive whatever they did before that is okay.:whatever:

[Kyalesyin]

I know, and I really wish I had some....

that's another thing though, is I have a real bad side to me... violent angry side.... it's scarry sometimes... not to showboat, but I'm a pretty decent size guy, 6'3" 225lb... avid kickboxer and wieghtlifter.... my violent side came after that above incident... I'm still trying to "terminate" that side of myself... but it's not gone yet... I would never want my child to see that side of me unless it was completely for the right reasons...

Having faith is easy. Start it with something small- 'I have faith that I can suceed today at---' set one simple goal. Then take one step up, and then another.

I know how you feel about that 'bad side'. When I get a bad day, I get a bad day. It took a fair few nurses to hold me down in hospital when another patient said he was gonna creep into my room in the night. I honestly believe I might have beaten the guy to death. I'm not big, but size isn't any odds on knowing how to use fists and feet. Fact is, everyone is hardwired to protect their children, so we're always more sensitive and more likely to blow up when we have them. However, we'll also have a whole other reason to keep it under control.

If you look at it from the caluclated risk angle, we are never ready for children. The situation could always be better. We are never emotionally able to cope. Why? Because we've never done it before. We can't practice. We can't dip our toes and adjust. Sometimes, you just gotta take that bull by the horns.

[Crazy Venom]

I think she's trying to get knocked up so you'll feel compelled to marry her.
Don't fall for it, if she gets prego leave her, 'cause she probably did it on purpose.

we've been engaged for a few months now

[Crazy Venom]

Having faith is easy. Start it with something small- 'I have faith that I can suceed today at---' set one simple goal. Then take one step up, and then another.

I know how you feel about that 'bad side'. When I get a bad day, I get a bad day. It took a fair few nurses to hold me down in hospital when another patient said he was gonna creep into my room in the night. I honestly believe I might have beaten the guy to death. I'm not big, but size isn't any odds on knowing how to use fists and feet. Fact is, everyone is hardwired to protect their children, so we're always more sensitive and more likely to blow up when we have them. However, we'll also have a whole other reason to keep it under control.

If you look at it from the caluclated risk angle, we are never ready for children. The situation could always be better. We are never emotionally able to cope. Why? Because we've never done it before. We can't practice. We can't dip our toes and adjust. Sometimes, you just gotta take that bull by the horns.

that is honestly the best response I have gotten so far... thanks.....

[Kritish]

we've been engaged for a few months now

Then she's simply got "baby fever" if she's prego and you don't a baby you could either help her get an abortion or put it up for adoption.

*waits for baby loving pro lifers to attack*:whatever:

[Kyalesyin]

that is honestly the best response I have gotten so far... thanks.....

I have my moments. I have been where you are, from the other side, and I admire your balls for not running a mile. That if nothing else wins you my respect. I also admire your openess about what happened to you. That also takes a lot. As for not having faith? Most people won't admit when their faith is shaky, let alone admit its gone. They tend to hide behind the pretense of faith and hope it never catches up to them.

Take this one day at a time. Nothing is set in stone yet, and if there is one thing that every person on this earth is capable of, its growth.

[Kritish]

You could always tell her that it takes a total of 100,000 to raise a child to adulthood.
I think the money will scare her away from the pitter patter of little feet.

[Crazy Venom]

Then she's simply got "baby fever" if she's prego and you don't a baby you could either help her get an abortion or put it up for adoption.

*waits for baby loving pro lifers to attack*:whatever:

it's one of two camps right now.... abortion or keeping it

the reasons I have for keeping it too are all wrong...... showing off basically.... I love babies... always wanted to have some... just right now is the worst time.... I find nothing sexier then thinking of my girl pregnent... but again, wrong reasons... I also love just holding babies and all that stuff.... I have a 5 year old brother.. so I was 17 when he was born, and I never left his side, my parents would get mad because I would hog him... but again, those are the wrong reasons....

[Kyalesyin]

it's one of two camps right now.... abortion or keeping it

the reasons I have for keeping it too are all wrong...... showing off basically.... I love babies... always wanted to have some... just right now is the worst time.... I find nothing sexier then thinking of my girl pregnent... but again, wrong reasons... I also love just holding babies and all that stuff.... I have a 5 year old brother.. so I was 17 when he was born, and I never left his side, my parents would get mad because I would hog him... but again, those are the wrong reasons....

Those aren't the wrong reasons, I don't think. I mean, what would you term as the right reasons? At least you want to have a kid because you think you could care for them emotionally and bond with them, rather than wanting one as a fashion accessory or to get a free ride from the government.

[Crazy Venom]

I have my moments. I have been where you are, from the other side, and I admire your balls for not running a mile. That if nothing else wins you my respect. I also admire your openess about what happened to you. That also takes a lot. As for not having faith? Most people won't admit when their faith is shaky, let alone admit its gone. They tend to hide behind the pretense of faith and hope it never catches up to them.

Take this one day at a time. Nothing is set in stone yet, and if there is one thing that every person on this earth is capable of, its growth.

and that's the one thing I need, is growth...

I mean, today, I went to my boss and was like, okay, I need to know where I stand here, I've worked her a total of 3 years, 2 of them being an intern, and one full time assistant designer.... "where do you see me going, because I feel that I have shown you I can handle being a full designer"... he agreed, I never used the sympophy way of saying my GF is pregnent.... and he said that after the first of the year, I will have my own sales team,.. and they will bump up my salary by 8 grand a year, which isn't bad for only 23, Ill be making 40 grand a year starting next..... so it's a start, but I have a long way to go. it will go up once I earn my MBA

[Kritish]

it's one of two camps right now.... abortion or keeping it

the reasons I have for keeping it too are all wrong...... showing off basically.... I love babies... always wanted to have some... just right now is the worst time.... I find nothing sexier then thinking of my girl pregnent... but again, wrong reasons... I also love just holding babies and all that stuff.... I have a 5 year old brother.. so I was 17 when he was born, and I never left his side, my parents would get mad because I would hog him... but again, those are the wrong reasons....

You find strech marks sexy?

The odds are you simply can't afford it, you need to look at this problem logically instead of "I love babies".

[Kyalesyin]

and that's the one thing I need, is growth...

I mean, today, I went to my boss and was like, okay, I need to know where I stand here, I've worked her a total of 3 years, 2 of them being an intern, and one full time assistant designer.... "where do you see me going, because I feel that I have shown you I can handle being a full designer"... he agreed, I never used the sympophy way of saying my GF is pregnent.... and he said that after the first of the year, I will have my own sales team,.. and they will bump up my salary by 8 grand a year, which isn't bad for only 23, Ill be making 40 grand a year starting next..... so it's a start, but I have a long way to go. it will go up once I earn my MBA

Thats a good start. At least you're looking at the future. It doesn't take much planning to be able to provide for a kid. You've got at least 7 months to get things in order if you decide to keep it. The important thing now though, is not planning. Don't plan until you know what you're doing.

Nothing hurts more than having a cradle blanket, a bundle of lifetime plans and a name, and then you loose it.

[Crazy Venom]

Those aren't the wrong reasons, I don't think. I mean, what would you term as the right reasons? At least you want to have a kid because you think you could care for them emotionally and bond with them, rather than wanting one as a fashion accessory or to get a free ride from the government.

I think the right reasons would be you wanting to see an image of yourself enter this world, and wanting the responsibilty of raising him in this world....

I'm a pretty tough guy, but seeing a baby is one of the things that gets to me, makes me want be nuturing and caring....

and that's another thing, I want to spoil the hell out of my kid at first.... give him everything.... right now I don't think I can

[Kritish]

As long as he's sure that he can do it without any problems go for it.

[Crazy Venom]

You find strech marks sexy?

The odds are you simply can't afford it, you need to look at this problem logically instead of "I love babies".

lol.... I don't know why I find a pregnent woman attractive, i just do... primal instincts I guess.....

[The Amazing Lee]

Crazy Venom.

You know what the best contraceptive is?







































NEUTER TIME!

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[Kritish]

I think the right reasons would be you wanting to see an image of yourself enter this world, and wanting the responsibilty of raising him in this world....

I'm a pretty tough guy, but seeing a baby is one of the things that gets to me, makes me want be nuturing and caring....

and that's another thing, I want to spoil the hell out of my kid at first.... give him everything.... right now I don't think I can

Actually it's been proven that in males the testosterone levels go down while holding a baby. It also happens in wolf packs, that's why it's unheard of for wolves killing pups.

[Crazy Venom]

Thats a good start. At least you're looking at the future. It doesn't take much planning to be able to provide for a kid. You've got at least 7 months to get things in order if you decide to keep it. The important thing now though, is not planning. Don't plan until you know what you're doing.

Nothing hurts more than having a cradle blanket, a bundle of lifetime plans and a name, and then you loose it.

the thing that sucks, it we were going to get married next year.... getting married on a beach... I have a good portion saved up, but I don't know if it's responsible to continue with those plans....

[Kyalesyin]

I think the right reasons would be you wanting to see an image of yourself enter this world, and wanting the responsibilty of raising him in this world....

I'm a pretty tough guy, but seeing a baby is one of the things that gets to me, makes me want be nuturing and caring....

and that's another thing, I want to spoil the hell out of my kid at first.... give him everything.... right now I don't think I can

Everything is a warm and loving home, and the emotional support to help them develop. You can give someone all the material goods in the world, but that doesn't count for **** if they don't know where to get a hug. My parents were counting the pennies at the end of every month, and I never had new clothes, but emotionally there was no issue.

[Kyalesyin]

the thing that sucks, it we were going to get married next year.... getting married on a beach... I have a good portion saved up, but I don't know if it's responsible to continue with those plans....

You can still get married after you have the kid, if thats what you pick. I was the youngest bridesmaid at my mothers wedding- four months old!

[Crazy Venom]

Everything is a warm and loving home, and the emotional support to help them develop. You can give someone all the material goods in the world, but that doesn't count for **** if they don't know where to get a hug. My parents were counting the pennies at the end of every month, and I never had new clothes, but emotionally there was no issue.

i think that's why Katie went for me.... she had a bunch of guys going after her a few years back.... some having more money then me.... but she saw that undernieth my tattoo's, piercing, and my unemotional ways, that I was actually a nuturing caring type of guy... that rather hold her, then party with my friends.....

[Kyalesyin]

i think that's why Katie went for me.... she had a bunch of guys going after her a few years back.... some having more money then me.... but she saw that undernieth my tattoo's, piercing, and my unemotional ways, that I was actually a nuturing caring type of guy... that rather hold her, then party with my friends.....

As my father said 'It takes a man to cry, or to say I'm sorry. Only cowards pretend not to feel.'

[Kritish]

Crazy Venom.

You know what the best contraceptive is?
NEUTER TIME!

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You don't need no stinkin' contraceptives!
You've got erectile dysfunction lee!
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[The Amazing Lee]

You don't need no stinkin' contraceptives!
You've got erectile dysfunction lee!
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LOL!

that was SO yesterday's news. besides, that problem has waaaay gone. :o

[Crazy Venom]

As my father said 'It takes a man to cry, or to say I'm sorry. Only cowards pretend not to feel.'

I guess I'm a coward then.. since I haven't cried in years... and I don't remember the last time I said I was sorry

[Kritish]

LOL!

that was SO yesterday's news. besides, that problem has waaaay gone. :o

You're in denile...
http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/ehlee/Images/Pictures/nelson.gif

[The Amazing Lee]

You're in denile...
http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/ehlee/Images/Pictures/nelson.gif

I'm in England, not Africa. you jack-ass. :cmad:

[Kyalesyin]

I guess I'm a coward then.. since I haven't cried in years... and I don't remember the last time I said I was sorry

But were you avoiding it because its an affront to your manhood, or did you simply not get the occasion? I only saw my father cry twice- once when our dog died, and once when his grandmother died. I only heard him apologise a few times. He goes to great lengths not to mess up.

[Kritish]

I'm in England, not Africa. you jack-ass. :cmad:

Where about's?

[Crazy Venom]

But were you avoiding it because its an affront to your manhood, or did you simply not get the occasion? I only saw my father cry twice- once when our dog died, and once when his grandmother died. I only heard him apologise a few times. He goes to great lengths not to mess up.

don't know honesty.... occasion never came up I guess

[The Amazing Lee]

Where about's?

Londonish.

[Kritish]

Londonish.

How's the east end?
Still a crap hole?

[Kyalesyin]

don't know honesty.... occasion never came up I guess

So mayhaps you make a point of making sure you do when the occasion comes up? How often do you tell your woman that you love her?

[The Amazing Lee]

How's the east end?
Still a crap hole?

At times, yup.

Ever heard of Romford?

[Crazy Venom]

So mayhaps you make a point of making sure you do when the occasion comes up? How often do you tell your woman that you love her?

50 times a day atleast.....
everytime we talk on the phone or message each other... all the time... before we fall asleep... waking up... can't remember one day when we haven't

[Kritish]

At times, yup.

Ever heard of Romford?

Nope, I was in London for 'bout a week.

I love your title.:woot:

[Kritish]

Everything is a warm and loving home, and the emotional support to help them develop. You can give someone all the material goods in the world, but that doesn't count for **** if they don't know where to get a hug. My parents were counting the pennies at the end of every month, and I never had new clothes, but emotionally there was no issue.

That just plain stupid.

It's okay no matter what the money level is as long as there's love in the house.:meow: :heart:

Do you live in Rainbow alley or Unicorn plaza?

[Kyalesyin]

50 times a day atleast.....
everytime we talk on the phone or message each other... all the time... before we fall asleep... waking up... can't remember one day when we haven't

You know how many guys will not say that to their women? She says "I love you" and his response is "Yeah, me too."

How about when you two see eachother next you give her a hug and tell her something along the lines of "whatever happens, you got me right here." She'll be needing to hear it. Four AM knows all your secrets, and people will do whatever it takes to get through the night.

[Kyalesyin]

That just plain stupid.

It's okay no matter what the money level is as long as there's love in the house.:meow: :heart:

Do you live in Rainbow alley or Unicorn plaza?

No. I'm merely working off my own experience. Sure, kids need to be well fed and well clothed and all that, but how many rich kids wind up emotionally ****ed because they have everything they need materially, but nobody takes care of their emotional needs?

[Crazy Venom]

You know how many guys will not say that to their women? She says "I love you" and his response is "Yeah, me too."

How about when you two see eachother next you give her a hug and tell her something along the lines of "whatever happens, you got me right here." She'll be needing to hear it. Four AM knows all your secrets, and people will do whatever it takes to get through the night.

yeah, I got off that phone with her just a minute ago, I told her "whatever happens, happens, but atleast we know we got each other"

[Kritish]

No. I'm merely working off my own experience. Sure, kids need to be well fed and well clothed and all that, but how many rich kids wind up emotionally ****ed because they have everything they need materially, but nobody takes care of their emotional needs?

That's still stupid, you need to be able to have enougth money to feed them and be able to help them get into college.

[Crazy Venom]

That's still stupid, you need to be able to have enougth money to feed them and be able to help them get into college.

actually man, my parent's are very well off, making over 500K a year, and ya know what, i didn't get a penny for college.... all I got was a co-signer for loans... and I made it through

[Kyalesyin]

That's still stupid, you need to be able to have enougth money to feed them and be able to help them get into college.

Which is exactly what I said, but a kid is better off with fewer flashy toys and more emotional support than the other way around. Computer games can't soothe a scraped up knee or dispel a kids fears.

[Kritish]

actually man, my parent's are very well off, making over 500K a year, and ya know what, i didn't get a penny for college.... all I got was a co-signer for loans... and I made it through

Then your parents were coo coo for coco puffs.

[Superman4ever]

http://www.jwolfe.clara.net/Humour/NonMedPicts/SpermPassedTonsils.jpg

OOOOOoooo....:oldrazz:

[Crazy Venom]

Then your parents were coo coo for coco puffs.

not really, they wanted me to etablish myself, and to know the value of a dollar... they've never spoiled me, yes, I had a BWM M3 and a bunch of other nice crap that was given to me, but my parent's also made me get a job when I turned 16, and helped my estalbish credit and how to manage investments....

[Kyalesyin]

not really, they wanted me to etablish myself, and to know the value of a dollar... they've never spoiled me, yes, I had a BWM M3 and a bunch of other nice crap that was given to me, but my parent's also made me get a job when I turned 16, and helped my estalbish credit and how to manage investments....

Then your parents had brains and I hope you follow their example. It sounds like they didn't do all that bad a job.

[Crazy Venom]

Then your parents had brains and I hope you follow their example. It sounds like they didn't do all that bad a job.

they gave me everything I needed and many things I wanted....

there whole reasoning for not giving me money for college was "if I paid for it on my own, I would understand the value of what I'm recieving, and would be more likely to take it seriously then to take it forgranted"

[Kyalesyin]

they gave me everything I needed and many things I wanted....

there whole reasoning for not giving me money for college was "if I paid for it on my own, I would understand the value of what I'm recieving, and would be more likely to take it seriously then to take it forgranted"

Pretty much the reason that I've managed to hang on at college through everything- I'm paying my own way. I only got the real basics as a kid, but I was always better socially and academically than my peers.

[Crazy Venom]

Pretty much the reason that I've managed to hang on at college through everything- I'm paying my own way. I only got the real basics as a kid, but I was always better socially and academically than my peers.

I remember my first years in high school when I wore expensive clothing, people really look down upon you... everyone else wearing Nike or whatever, I was wearing Armani, and Boss... I felt out of place...

[Kyalesyin]

I remember my first years in high school when I wore expensive clothing, people really look down upon you... everyone else wearing Nike or whatever, I was wearing Armani, and Boss... I felt out of place...

I was wearing neighbour hand-me-downs. I got the crap kicked outta me, but it taught me to be confident no matter what I'm wearing. I've never followed fashion or bothered with trends and its made me a lot more confident.

[Gotendbz-2]

Females... So strange.... and scary....

[Kyalesyin]

Females... So strange.... and scary....

You're telling me. I even scare myself sometimes.

[redmarvel]

Far as I'm concerned #'s 1-3 are the OONLY options, but then again, this isn't gonna be my kid. Honestly, knowing your a decent guy, CV...if you love her then run with #1 but if not, 3 would likely be the best for the kid (you know happy family with a mommy and a daddy).

I have a friend that has adopted 3 kids with his wife...honestly they are the coolest/kindest/picture perfect family I know...:woot:

I know a couple like that. One of there 3 kids is a good friend of mine. They're all well adjusted adults now.

The point is #1 is only viable if it will be a loving family. If you consider #1 "to get married" only because you "have to" and resent the kid for it, then #1 is not the option for you. #2 might actually be the healthier relationship. Kids need love. Parents need to be able to respect themselves and each other.

[Canadian Rider]

Marriage has become a meaningless "symbol" in most parts of the world.

Put the kid ahead of your own needs for the rest of your life and things will work out fine. PS - start saving if you want your kid to go to college or university. It will probably only cost $1,000,000 a year by the time they are ready to go.

Cheers! :yay:

[Crazy Venom]

Well, she had an ultrasound today, heard a heartbeat... due date is around august 9th

[Kyalesyin]

Damn! Thats good news. Now all you got is a few months of fretting about wether it'll come out healthy, wether you can look after it and what the best course of action is.

Best of luck to you!

[Shuley]

You play,you pay. hehehe

[Lurk]

It helps to scan the thread before posting.:whatever:

[Crazy Venom]

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3066/babyzn0.jpg

first baby pic....