Favorite Smallville Plotholes

[Red]

Some of my favorites have been:

> Lex's condition that was introduced in "Crusade", that he need an injection each day to stay alive.

> How did Fine reappear after his death in "Solitude"? Was it just a copy that died?

Thoughts?

[Serene]

Some of my favorites have been:

> Lex's condition that was introduced in "Crusade", that he need an injection each day to stay alive.

> How did Fine reappear after his death in "Solitude"? Was it just a copy that died?

Thoughts?

Not that I'm saying there aren't some gaping wide plotholes in the show, but I believe that both of those were explained, at least to a degree, in subsequent shows.

Lex simply became stronger and fully recovered from the damage the poison caused eventually. He always heals, that time just took a while longer.

And I do believe that Jor-El? said something that sorta covered how Brainiac could continue coming back - I think as long as the "ship" existed, Brainiac could still become corporeal.

Perhaps someone with a more detailed memory than I can be more specific though.

[avidreader]

Not that I'm saying there aren't some gaping wide plotholes in the show, but I believe that both of those were explained, at least to a degree, in subsequent shows.

Lex simply became stronger and fully recovered from the damage the poison caused eventually. He always heals, that time just took a while longer.

That's true and they even took it one step further in the Verizon Text Messages. Lex received an email from his Dr. saying that his system had completely recovered from the poisoning.

And I do believe that Jor-El? said something that sorta covered how Brainiac could continue coming back - I think as long as the "ship" existed, Brainiac could still become corporeal.

Perhaps someone with a more detailed memory than I can be more specific though.

The corporeal being known as Milton Fine, was just an extension of the black ship. The black ship was actually the REAL danger known as Brainiac.

[Serene]

Heh. I knew avid would be able to quote the specifics on the above.
She's like my SV reference library. ;)

[Kaboom]

up until recently it was 33.1

[avidreader]

Heh. I knew avid would be able to quote the specifics on the above.
She's like my SV reference library. ;)

Nice to know I'm good for something. :yay: :heart:

[Kaboom]

Nice to know I'm good for something. :yay: :heart:

youre good at hair rufling

[avidreader]

youre good at hair rufling

Jee thanks. :o

:heart:

[Eros]

what happend to that dog the kents had, did he move out?

Why is Lois Lane such a *****?

[Brainiac 8]

^ the first one is a good point. We have yet to see Shelby at all this season. Poor missing dog, and the Kents don't seem to care.:csad:


BIG plot hole....when did the kryptonians visit china to place a map and kryptonite in a secret vault.:huh:

[Lt. Figgnuts]

BIG plot hole....when did the kryptonians visit china to place a map and kryptonite in a secret vault.:huh:

Not to mention how they would have actually gotten kryptonite before the planet exploded...

...and if it wasn't Kryptonians, how would they know to place the kryptonite in the vicinity of the map? Coincidence?

That's true and they even took it one step further in the Verizon Text Messages. Lex received an email from his Dr. saying that his system had completely recovered from the poisoning.

Now, usually I'm all for these little side-thingies that delve into the nooks and crannies that just one fit into the story of the season (ie, the Chronicles). However, I think something like this really should've been stated on camera, because honestly I don't think it ever was mentioned (although I'm willing to admit I could be wrong).

I think my favorite plothole is the insane fluctuation of the weather that seems to happen in Smallville. It seems like every season, the weather is so on and off...they'll wear coats in the summer, or in one episode the ground will be covered in snow and in the episodes before and after the ground will be completely clean (not that that's impossible). Always just find it amusing is all...

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Also, we're still waiting for those damn kids to go back to college...shouldn't a new semester have started up by now?

[avidreader]

Also, we're still waiting for those damn kids to go back to college...shouldn't a new semester have started up by now?

I doubt that Lana is going to go back to College now. Chloe most likely will, but I dont think second semester starts for another couple of weeks.

[Kebab gud]

Why is Lois Lane such a *****?
i donmt know what's behind those stars but if its whore then i must say ..
Lois has only been with what .. 2 guys lana on the other hand has a new guy for every seson...

[triplet]

i donmt know what's behind those stars but if its whore then i must say ..
Lois has only been with what .. 2 guys lana on the other hand has a new guy for every seson...

Don't ya think you're being a little harsh?

She was a virgin until last season and only just started having sex with Lex the third episode in this season...

She's only had sex with Clark and Lex so she's hardly sleeping around.

:rolleyes:

[Serene]

i donmt know what's behind those stars but if its whore then i must say ..
Lois has only been with what .. 2 guys lana on the other hand has a new guy for every seson...

How do you know how many guys Lois has been with? All we know is that she's not a virgin. She could have been with only one guy, or several. Lana, we know has only been with Clark, and now Lex. Hardly worthy of a "whore" classification.

I really hate how easily people throw around the "whore" label. Interesting that no one has felt the need to comment on how many sex partners Lex has had - and we KNOW he's been around (and around, and around..).

[Spider-Gamer]

I want a t-shirt that says "Lex is a whore"! :word:

[triplet]

How do you know how many guys Lois has been with? All we know is that she's not a virgin. She could have been with only one guy, or several. Lana, we know has only been with Clark, and now Lex. Hardly worthy of a "whore" classification.

I really hate how easily people throw around the "whore" label. Interesting that no one has felt the need to comment on how many sex partners Lex has had - and we KNOW he's been around (and around, and around..).

Misogyny ain't pretty...

:mad:

You bring up a good point: Lex's number of partners never comes up.

Double standards stink.

[avidreader]

Misogyny ain't pretty...

:mad:

You bring up a good point: Lex's number of partners never comes up.

Double standards stink.

Well there was that one episode Bound, where it was brought up, but I think its something that they should have brought up again, especially when Lana was contemplating a sexual relationship with him.

[Serene]

Well there was that one episode Bound, where it was brought up, but I think its something that they should have brought up again, especially when Lana was contemplating a sexual relationship with him.

I think trip and I are referring to it not being brought up by fans, not that it wasn't addressed in the show. I've read way too many comments calling Lois and/or Lana on their sexual activities.

[giggs11uk]

clark being injected with kryptonite (and not staying completely dead) in a season 5 episode were lana became a junkie to c her dead parents

[Zorex]

Smallville has no plotholes.

[triplet]

Well there was that one episode Bound, where it was brought up, but I think its something that they should have brought up again, especially when Lana was contemplating a sexual relationship with him.

I actually mentioned that in my review for Wither, I believe, that Lex had asked her to move in and said that he hadn't done that before, which isn't true.

Why didn't she remember him asking Helen Bryce to move in back in season two? Lana was a business partner with Lex at the time in the Talon... he's the only billionaire in town.

Wouldn't a prominent local doctor moving in with him have been noticed? Especially by a girl who would have undoubtedly heard rumors, owing to her close relationship with Lex, even if she didn't know first hand?

Stupid she didn't mention it and called him on his lie when he asked her to move in...

[The Incredible Hulk]

Also, we're still waiting for those damn kids to go back to college...shouldn't a new semester have started up by now?

Spring semester in most colleges starts in late January/early February, so we should see them going back not too long after the show comes back on Jan 11th

[triplet]

I think trip and I are referring to it not being brought up by fans, not that it wasn't addressed in the show. I've read way too many comments calling Lois and/or Lana on their sexual activities.

No, I meant in the show.

Although they talked about it in that episode, and referred to it in a couple of others, it hasn't been a point of contention for Lana. Why wouldn't she point out his lies to him when he's obviously lying?

It's inconsistant. She always pointed out Clark's lies, why doesn't she do that to Lex too?

*shrug*

I don't think Lana's been a bad girl. She has been very picky, in fact, about her men but she should have known when Lex lied to her and she should have pointed it out to him.

It's a pretty big plot hole since she's been so unsure about Lex, yet defends him as being more honest than Clark and there he is telling her an outright lie should have recognized as such.

It doesn't make sense...

But I do agree that Lana and Lois being called "whores" is going too far... They're clearly not.

[Lunar_Wolf]

I want a t-shirt that says "Lex is a whore"! :word:

LMAO That would be a good dam T-shirt!

Plothole I think! Whatever happed to Lana's father? Henry Small.

[Red]

Ok heres one, why do all Kryptonians speak perfect english?

[Brainiac 8]

Ok heres one, why do all Kryptonians speak perfect english?

It's just a given...it's just like in Star Wars; why is it that most of the empire in a faraway galaxy speak in british accents?:huh:

[SatEL]

wait a minute guys heres a good one why is Jorel a god?

How can a human be turned into a kryptonian?

[NHawk19]

^Alter the DNA, which may be why Jor-El was able to turn on and off Clarks powers. He did go into that light thing for training. Who knows what other ways it altered him.

[AgentPat]

wait a minute guys heres a good one why is Jorel a god?

How can a human be turned into a kryptonian?I dunno? Same way Kryptonians can be turned into humans, I s'pose (reference SII.) It's dumb anyway you slice it though, I agree.

[Migu-EL]

Not to mention how they would have actually gotten kryptonite before the planet exploded...

...and if it wasn't Kryptonians, how would they know to place the kryptonite in the vicinity of the map? Coincidence?






It was Milton Fine.:wow: :huh: The Kryptonite could have been a sample of Krypton's terrain or Milton Fine could have created it.:wow: :woot: :huh: :ninja:

[Abaddon]

how is it that Lana is still able to make good use of her hand after having had it impaled?

[Brainiac 8]

Not only that, but having a kryptonite necklace for so many years around her neck should have caused her head to fall off.

I mean, Lex lost his hand because of the kryptonite ring he wore for so long.:oldrazz:

[Abaddon]

The Krptonite necklace gave her the ability to attract freaks.

[AssMan]

Lex & the whole security thing. You would think that by now there would be nothing but security guards at that mansion he relies to much on cameras that always gets disabled first & when security guards do come in they are idiots :o

[Red]

The Krptonite necklace gave her the ability to attract freaks.

Nope, just bad choice in men. All of Lana's boyfriends besides form Clark have either died, gone evil(er) or both.

[Jack O Lantern]

Clark died.

Plus I feel bad for Lionel, Whiteny lost his father while dating her, Jason lost his mother, Clark his father.

Mr Lurthor say out of those dark allies

[Abaddon]

Nope, just bad choice in men. All of Lana's boyfriends besides form Clark have either died, gone evil(er) or both.


Yes, they were freaks. And I'm including the ones she didn't date(Tina Grier, that fish guy, and some others).

[amazingfantasy15]

There were a lot of holes in the pilot episode. Can't remember most of them right now, but a couple are, Clark driving the truck as a freshman in High School, most people don't even take drivers ed until Sophmore year. Chloe had quite an impressive Wall of Weird going on for the first few days in High School and how did a Freshman become in charge of the School newspaper. Finally, nobody seemed weirded out by freshman Lana Lang dating a Senior and they've supposedly been dating a while. What was Whitney cruising around Smallivlle Middle School last year for girls? Also, that season Lana took over the Talon, who in their right mind would give over ownership of a business to a Freshman in High School

[avidreader]

There were a lot of holes in the pilot episode. Can't remember most of them right now, but a couple are, Clark driving the truck as a freshman in High School, most people don't even take drivers ed until Sophmore year.

He didnt drive in the Pilot. I think its Hulk who has pointed out before, that the driving age in Kansas is 15.

Chloe had quite an impressive Wall of Weird going on for the first few days in High School and how did a Freshman become in charge of the School newspaper.

Maybe she ran the paper in Middle School and took over the High School paper during the summer break, due to her impressive skills and nobody else being interested.

Finally, nobody seemed weirded out by freshman Lana Lang dating a Senior and they've supposedly been dating a while. What was Whitney cruising around Smallivlle Middle School last year for girls?

I think in a small town, there is nothing very weird about that. Also Lana loved horses, the Fordman's had stables, maybe she got to know Whitney because of that.

Also, that season Lana took over the Talon, who in their right mind would give over ownership of a business to a Freshman in High School

Lex was the owner of the land. Lex, Nell and Lana were part owners of the busines with Nell being the Manager. Lana had more of interest in it than Nell though, so she was there more often.

See, with a bit of creativity you can explain your way around anything. :cwink:

[AgentPat]

...See, with a bit of creativity you can explain your way around anything. :cwink:Indeed, but those things AF brought up aren't even plotholes; they're nitpicks. And silly ones to boot. ;)

[avidreader]

Indeed, but those things AF brought up aren't even plotholes; they're nitpicks. And silly ones to boot. ;)

Exactly! When I think of a plothole, I think of a solution being made for a plot that doesnt make any sense within the context of what's been happening. Or the course in which a story is heading, has bits missing which doesnt make any sense. I think Thirst might have suffered from this, which is why they had Chloe narrating. To fill in the missing pieces, so to speak.

Did that make sense? :huh: :cwink:

[Brainiac 8]

Perfect sense Avid.:yay: :huh: :cwink:

[AgentPat]

Exactly! When I think of a plothole, I think of a solution being made for a plot that doesn't make any sense within the context of what's been happening.

Did that make sense? :huh: :cwink:Yes, basically. Superman choosing to become mortal in SII was an irreversible choice according to Lara, but lo and behold... :D

[Serene]

Not only that, but having a kryptonite necklace for so many years around her neck should have caused her head to fall off.

LMAO!

I needed that laugh, B8. ;)

[Kaboom]

time crystal?

[Jack O Lantern]

Wasn't Clark told that the only way to stop Zod was to kill the Vessel?

[AgentPat]

Wasn't Clark told that the only way to stop Zod was to kill the Vessel?HAHAHA!!! Niiiiiice!!! Yup, now THAT's a SV plothole. :up:

[SatEL]

time crystal?

Excatly i mean for crying out loud Jorels a darn god in smallville simple as that the things he does for a supposed dead guy are really quite impressive.

[Jack O Lantern]

Excatly i mean for crying out loud Jorels a darn god in smallville simple as that the things he does for a supposed dead guy are really quite impressive.

It's proably technolgy, I mean everyone thinks that Dr. Emmett Brown can travel in time but a lead scientist in advanced civilisation, no.

[RakuMon]

After watching "Arrow" last night, what about the fact that Lois gets kidnapped in Smallville, but Clark and Ollie save her in Metropolis?

That wouldn't be a problem, aside from the fact that it's been established that Metropolis is a 3-hour drive from Smallville. So how did Ollie get there in time to save Lois?

I think sometimes, the writers forget Smallville's not just a suburb of Metropolis. Coz that's how they treat it, especially this season more than ever.

[Eros]

It's proably technolgy, I mean everyone thinks that Dr. Emmett Brown can travel in time but a lead scientist in advanced civilisation, no.

if Jor-el and the krytponians can alter time and space why didn't they do this and save themsleves from being destroyed?

[Jack O Lantern]

if Jor-el and the krytponians can alter time and space why didn't they do this and save themsleves from being destroyed?

No on believed Jor El, also Jor El says that the universe will balance itself out, saving themselves would lead to the death of another planet.

[avidreader]

Wasn't Clark told that the only way to stop Zod was to kill the Vessel?

That was to stop Zod from taking over Lex's body. Once Zod did take over the body, there were other ways to stop him.

[amazingfantasy15]

After watching "Arrow" last night, what about the fact that Lois gets kidnapped in Smallville, but Clark and Ollie save her in Metropolis?

That wouldn't be a problem, aside from the fact that it's been established that Metropolis is a 3-hour drive from Smallville. So how did Ollie get there in time to save Lois?

I think sometimes, the writers forget Smallville's not just a suburb of Metropolis. Coz that's how they treat it, especially this season more than ever.

Yeah, ever since season 5 started people are going to and from Metropolis every day it seems. Chloe will be at the Planet in one scene and the next will be at the Kent Farm in Smallville. At least in shows like Buffy and Veronica Mars the colleges are pretty much in the same town/city as their parents/non-college friends.

[Kaboom]

HAHAHA!!! Niiiiiice!!! Yup, now THAT's a SV plothole. :up:

to be fair, zod sent to clark to the pz where he got the s shield. before that clark had no way to get to the pz so the only way he could have killed zod was to destroy the vessel.

[Brainiac 8]

LMAO!

I needed that laugh, B8. ;)


I always aim to please Rene.:woot:

[Abaddon]

Plot Hole: How does Chloe go back to leading a normal life after faking her death and going into witness protection? And I wont even bother mentioning the horse **** contrivance involving her faked death.

[Brainiac 8]

What I always wonder is how poor college students can afford the gas it takes to drive back and forth between Metropolis and Smallville so much.

I mean here is an example, in "Hypnotic" last year...Lana was with Lex, she left to go back to her dorm, when she got there she got a call from Clark to come to his house...she just turns aorund and drives back to Smallville...that is like 60 bucks or so worth of gas right there, not to mention six hours out of her day.

[Abaddon]

What I always wonder is how poor college students can afford the gas it takes to drive back and forth between Metropolis and Smallville so much.

I mean here is an example, in "Hypnotic" last year...Lana was with Lex, she left to go back to her dorm, when she got there she got a call from Clark to come to his house...she just turns aorund and drives back to Smallville...that is like 60 bucks or so worth of gas right there, not to mention six hours out of her day.


Those kinds of plot holes can be explained away with one word: Lex.:o

[avidreader]

Plot Hole: How does Chloe go back to leading a normal life after faking her death and going into witness protection? And I wont even bother mentioning the horse **** contrivance involving her faked death.

Lionel was sentenced to life in prison. And any way going by Lois's conversation with Lionel at the prison, I think Lex set up that whole blowing up the house and faking Chloe's death.

[Abaddon]

Lionel was sentenced to life in prison. And any way going by Lois's conversation with Lionel at the prison, I think Lex set up that whole blowing up the house and faking Chloe's death.

That still doesn't make much sense.:huh:

[avidreader]

That still doesn't make much sense.:huh:

Yeah it does, well to me it does. ;) She could go back to leading a normal life, because Lex arranged the whole plot from beginning to end. Sam Lane was in on it at the end as well, so the whole thing was completely fake.

Maybe, I've misunderstood what you were saying in the first place.

*shrug*

[Abaddon]

Yeah it does, well to me it does. ;) She could go back to leading a normal life, because Lex arranged the whole plot from beginning to end. Sam Lane was in on it at the end as well, so the whole thing was completely fake.

Maybe, I've misunderstood what you were saying in the first place.

*shrug*

maybe.:o:oldrazz:
I don't remember all the details of that arc so I can't really comment, but I'm sure it doesn't make sense anyway.:o

[Eros]

No on believed Jor El, also Jor El says that the universe will balance itself out, saving themselves would lead to the death of another planet.

your post makes no sense. All kryptonians had time travel technology not just Jor-el. also do you actually think anyone on krypton could care less about another random planet blowing up[if it menat svaing themsleves] let alone someone like Jor-el? But i disliked reckoning so much, it doesn't matter.

[Moviefan2k4]

Don't forget one of the most glaring plotholes in Season 3 of the series: Dr. Swann's unresolved deal with Lionel. Somehow, Swann winds up with the Kryptonian Key, and it's a full year or more before Lionel's liver cancer is cured. No explanation, no description, nothing...just they have some mysterious deal that's never mentioned again.

[Kaboom]

to be fair, swann "died"

and lionels cancer was eradicated in transferrence.

[Brainiac 8]

Plus, Swann sent a care package back to Clark in the event of his death that held the key he had of Clark's.

[avidreader]

I always thought the key being in Swann's possession was a sign that the caves had transporter capabilities. Which it does, it transports Clark from Kansas to the North Pole.

Why it went to Swann, I have no idea. :huh:

[Brainiac 8]

I always thought the key being in Swann's possession was a sign that the caves had transporter capabilities. Which it does, it transports Clark from Kansas to the North Pole.

Why it went to Swann, I have no idea. :huh:


Because he was Superman, duh.:cwink: :p

[Jack O Lantern]

your post makes no sense. All kryptonians had time travel technology not just Jor-el. also do you actually think anyone on krypton could care less about another random planet blowing up[if it menat svaing themsleves] let alone someone like Jor-el? But i disliked reckoning so much, it doesn't matter.


No one believed Jor El about Krypton's fate. Also even if all kryptonians had axcess to time travel (there's no argument to support that BTW, just because a lead scientist has it does not mean evryone had it, I mean Vince McMahon has a jet, I don't) how would they use that technogly if they had died.

I do think that Kryptonians would care about destroying another planet. Both Clark and Jor El are good and if Jor El was high up in the cousel then I would assume that most of the rest were as well.

[Eros]

No one believed Jor El about Krypton's fate. Also even if all kryptonians had axcess to time travel (there's no argument to support that BTW, just because a lead scientist has it does not mean evryone had it, I mean Vince McMahon has a jet, I don't) how would they use that technogly if they had died.

I do think that Kryptonians would care about destroying another planet. Both Clark and Jor El are good and if Jor El was high up in the cousel then I would assume that most of the rest were as well.

Clark is good becuse he was raised buy good people, Jor-el has done some qusuestionable things that would not classify him as good. and to assume that a group of advanced alien beings who isolated themsleves, would give a damn about another random planet exploding is bit of a stretch to beleive. If Jor-el reversed time so clark could save his freaking girlfirend, i highly doubt he would not of used this to save his entire race.

[AgentPat]

Clark is good because he was raised buy good people, Jor-el has done some questionable things that would not classify him as good.His "program" did questionable things to keep Jor-El's son on track to fulfilling his destiny. Raya's description of Jor-El was one of utmost praise and honor.

to assume that a group of advanced alien beings who isolated themselves, would give a damn about another random planet exploding is bit of a stretch to beleive.You mean Earth? Jor-El's reasoning for saving Earth and its inhabitants can be presumed based on his experiences in 1961 (Relic episode.)

If Jor-el reversed time so clark could save his freaking girlfriend, i highly doubt he would not of used this to save his entire race.Hmmm... Lets assume the rest of the Kryptonian council just thought Krypton was shifting its orbit, as explained in S:TM. Until Krypton started to break apart, there would be nothing to indicate to the rest of the council that there was anything to be concerned with. SO, if Jor-El reversed time at the moment the planet started breaking up, he'd be right back where he started, arguing Krypton's immanent doom to a council of non-believers. Only he, like Clark, would have any knowledge of the near future. Add on top of this the logistics involved in transporting a whole planet's worth of inhabitants off world in a short period of time, even if they DID believe the world was coming to an end it would be a VERY difficult task.

Tune in next season for Kandor...

[Red]

Kandor!

[RakuMon]

What I always wonder is how poor college students can afford the gas it takes to drive back and forth between Metropolis and Smallville so much.

I mean here is an example, in "Hypnotic" last year...Lana was with Lex, she left to go back to her dorm, when she got there she got a call from Clark to come to his house...she just turns aorund and drives back to Smallville...that is like 60 bucks or so worth of gas right there, not to mention six hours out of her day.
Exactly! Not to mention the fact that Clark and Simone started to remove their clothes when he called her, and they still hadn't started having sex when Lana showed up. That means Clark and Simone were engaged in THREE HOURS OF FOREPLAY!!!:wow: Go Clark! ;)


Hmmm... Lets assume the rest of the Kryptonian council just thought Krypton was shifting its orbit, as explained in S:TM. Until Krypton started to break apart, there would be nothing to indicate to the rest of the council that there was anything to be concerned with.

Didn't they establish last season that Zod was somehow responsible for the destruction of Krypton?

[Jack O Lantern]

Clark is good becuse he was raised buy good people, Jor-el has done some qusuestionable things that would not classify him as good.

Everything Jor El did, was to keep Clark on his journey to become a hero and protect Earth, what a bastard.

and to assume that a group of advanced alien beings who isolated themsleves, would give a damn about another random planet exploding is bit of a stretch to beleive.

Kind of like America isolated itself in the aftermath of First World War but still helped the allies by the 1940's, true they were attacked but they way things were going they were going to interject themselves eventually.

If Jor-el reversed time so clark could save his freaking girlfirend, i highly doubt he would not of used this to save his entire race.

Jor El didn't reverse time, Clark did, all Jor El did was tell Clark the option was there, and try to talk him out of it as well

[tonytr1687]

What happened to Lana's ability to see through the eyes of a kidnapper? Remember that episode in Season 1? Oh and why havnt Chloe and Lana been back to college yet? I'm not talking about the second semester, I'm talking about the FIRST! Last thing we heard from Lana was they were rebuilding the school after Dark Thursday or something like that. The school should be open again by now. Chloe's never at school either, she's always at the Daily Planet.

Plus, and I'm not sure if this is necessarily a plothole but...whens Clark gonna get his act together again and go back to school? I thought this break was just temporary. How is he gonna get a good job at the Planet if he has only one semester of college?

[avidreader]

What happened to Lana's ability to see through the eyes of a kidnapper? Remember that episode in Season 1?

The guy who's eyes she was able to see through, was shot dead and her ability died with him.

Oh and why havnt Chloe and Lana been back to college yet? I'm not talking about the second semester, I'm talking about the FIRST! Last thing we heard from Lana was they were rebuilding the school after Dark Thursday or something like that. The school should be open again by now.

They specifically said that the school would not re-open until second semester.

Chloe's never at school either, she's always at the Daily Planet.

Just because whenever we see her she's at the Daily Planet it doesnt necessarily mean that she's never anywhere else.

Plus, and I'm not sure if this is necessarily a plothole but...whens Clark gonna get his act together again and go back to school?

I was thinking about this and I think I can see why they arent going to have Clark go back to school during the remaining lifetime of the show. If they want us to show Clark maturing and tackling more worldly issues then having him attend College is going to put him back in the same place that he was when he was going to High School.

I thought this break was just temporary. How is he gonna get a good job at the Planet if he has only one semester of college?

I'm guessing they'll cover that through his training at the FOS like they did in the movie.

[Jack O Lantern]

You don't need a college education to work for a Newspaper, if I'm correct in Lois and Clark he never went to College (I could be wrong here) in the movies he didn't.

[Eros]

You don't need a college education to work for a Newspaper, if I'm correct in Lois and Clark he never went to College (I could be wrong here) in the movies he didn't.

Clark went to college in Lois and Clark, he played football thier to. Clarks gone to college in the comics and most other versions save for the old superman movies.

[Eros]

Everything Jor El did, was to keep Clark on his journey to become a hero and protect Earth, what a bastard.



Kind of like America isolated itself in the aftermath of First World War but still helped the allies by the 1940's, true they were attacked but they way things were going they were going to interject themselves eventually.


Jor El didn't reverse time, Clark did, all Jor El did was tell Clark the option was there, and try to talk him out of it as well

Are you compareing america's behavior to that of a fictional technologically advanced alien culture?:huh:

[triplet]

I think some of you guys are thinking about this stuff too much...

It's making my head hurt.

[Lunar_Wolf]

Not a plothole but in the ep about Jor-el on earth annoyed me because he was played by Tom, and why would Jor-el look perfectly like his son?

[Kaboom]

some people just dont get it

[blksuperman2]

Here's a plothole. How come no matter how many times the kent pick-up truck gets destroyed it always manages to reappear. Albeit it's either red or blue but still.

[Lunar_Wolf]

Here's a plothole. How come no matter how many times the kent pick-up truck gets destroyed it always manages to reappear. Albeit it's either red or blue but still.

Because it's a magic truck:huh:

[Kaboom]

Here's a plothole. How come no matter how many times the kent pick-up truck gets destroyed it always manages to reappear. Albeit it's either red or blue but still.
geico

[Lunar_Wolf]

How come in one ep Lana tried to cut some of clark's hair but the sissors broke, but in some eps Clarks hair is shorter then the pervious eps? How is this possible, how would he cut his hair? J/K :oldrazz: Thats just nip picking!

[avidreader]

Here's a plothole. How come no matter how many times the kent pick-up truck gets destroyed it always manages to reappear. Albeit it's either red or blue but still.

Because Clark is Superman and he can unbend all the dents.

[Lunar_Wolf]

I bet the Kent's insurance is high!

[triplet]

Not a plothole but in the ep about Jor-el on earth annoyed me because he was played by Tom, and why would Jor-el look perfectly like his son?

It was because at the time they had a prohibition against showing any other real kryptonian besides Clark. (Kara in the third season ender, Covenant, wasn't really kryptonian...)

[Kaboom]

How come in one ep Lana tried to cut some of clark's hair but the sissors broke, but in some eps Clarks hair is shorter then the pervious eps? How is this possible, how would he cut his hair? J/K :oldrazz: Thats just nip picking!
heat vision

[SouLeSS]

Here's a plothole. How come no matter how many times the kent pick-up truck gets destroyed it always manages to reappear. Albeit it's either red or blue but still.

Why do you think they're so in debt or have no money all the time? It's been family owned land for years. Family owned land like that doesn't cost that much money.

[Kaboom]

seeds and cultivation do, theyre not susistence farmers

[Eros]

Kaboom

[StorminNorman]

Clark went to college in Lois and Clark, he played football thier to. Clarks gone to college in the comics and most other versions save for the old superman movies.

In Superman Birthright he didnt really attend College - he got enough Journalism credits from Study Abroad assignments that he got his degree in Journalism at age 24. Except I dont think it really happens like that in real life :)

[Kaboom]

Kaboom
GAH!

Why dost thou followeth me you following follower!

[Migu-EL]

How does Clark shave?:huh:

[Brainiac 8]

Mirror and Heat Vision.:yay:

[Kaboom]

Mirror and Heat Vision.:yay:
that was in L and C where they showed it for the first time i think.

[Brainiac 8]

that was in L and C where they showed it for the first time i think.

Yea, that's where they had Clark doing it..great scene actually.

[avidreader]

that was in L and C where they showed it for the first time i think.

But would that work? The intensity of the heat that he would need to use to have it reflect off the mirror, surely would break the mirror.

Where are our resident physicists? :cwink:

[AgentPat]

But would that work? The intensity of the heat that he would need to use to have it reflect off the mirror, surely would break the mirror.

Where are our resident physicists? :cwink::D

http://www.willthomas.net/Convergence/Weekly/Burning_Mirrors.htm

Superhero fans will get a kick out of reading that. ;)

[Kaboom]

But would that work? The intensity of the heat that he would need to use to have it reflect off the mirror, surely would break the mirror.

Where are our resident physicists? :cwink:

using a heat vision and a mirror to shave :down:

being an alien visitor from a nother planet that conveniently looks human, has super breath, heat vision, strength, invulnerability, and the power of flight :up:

[Kaboom]

:D

http://www.willthomas.net/Convergence/Weekly/Burning_Mirrors.htm

Superhero fans will get a kick out of reading that. ;)

see also, lighthouse of alexandria

[triplet]

But would that work? The intensity of the heat that he would need to use to have it reflect off the mirror, surely would break the mirror.

Where are our resident physicists? :cwink:

You can't reflect heat with a mirror, just the light, or so my light designer hubby told me once...

:D

http://www.willthomas.net/Convergenc...ng_Mirrors.htm (http://www.willthomas.net/Convergence/Weekly/Burning_Mirrors.htm)

Superhero fans will get a kick out of reading that. ;)

Hmmm....

[Brainiac 8]

You can't reflect heat with a mirror, just the light, or so my light designer hubby told me once...



Hmmm....


There also are not wormholes that send you from one part of the galaxy to another, but we accept it because it's science fiction.

If you want reality, watch Soap Operas.....oh wait.:oldrazz:

[avidreader]

http://www.willthomas.net/Convergence/Weekly/Burning_Mirrors.htm

Superhero fans will get a kick out of reading that.

How do you find this stuff? :whatever:

using a heat vision and a mirror to shave :down:

being an alien visitor from a nother planet that conveniently looks human, has super breath, heat vision, strength, invulnerability, and the power of flight :up:

Yeah, so what's your point. :cwink:

You can't reflect heat with a mirror, just the light, or so my light designer hubby told me once...




See, proves my point. I think. :huh:

There also are not wormholes that send you from one part of the galaxy to another, but we accept it because it's science fiction.

If you want reality, watch Soap Operas.....oh wait.:oldrazz:

I have nothing to say to this, but I just love the multiple quote button. :woot:

[Brainiac 8]

Yes, the multi quote was a good idea...and what was wrong with my comment!?!:cmad: :csad:

[Lt. Figgnuts]

It was Milton Fine.:wow: :huh: The Kryptonite could have been a sample of Krypton's terrain or Milton Fine could have created it.:wow: :woot: :huh: :ninja:

Milton Fine came to Earth and put Kryptonite in China a few months before the ship containing his artificial intelligence landed?

Not to mention that Kryptonians wouldn't be able to get Kryptonite before the Krypton exploded, because the rock is only harmful once irradiated, and that didn't happen until the big boom.

Maybe she ran the paper in Middle School and took over the High School paper during the summer break, due to her impressive skills and nobody else being interested.

That one is just a matter of them changing sets between the production of the pilot episode and the production of the rest of the series.

It actually kind of frustrates me, because in the first episode they're in an actual computer lab, like journalism is an actual department at the school, and then after that it's this little office with, like, a computer - oh well. That's the nature of the beast, though.

Speaking of that lone computer, though - was it ever mentioned how often the Torch actually comes out? Was it daily? Weekly?

As a budding journalist myself, I know enough to know that it would be almost impossible to design a full newspaper with one (or even two) computers, let alone considering the fact that most of the time Chloe was probably the only one doing it. That stuff takes a while for one person. She'd have to give up ALL of her free time - and considering that we DID see her outside of the Torch office often, that's obviously not the case...

there's no argument to support that BTW, just because a lead scientist has it does not mean evryone had it, I mean Vince McMahon has a jet, I don't

:confused: Vince McMahon isn't a scientist...

[avidreader]

Yes, the multi quote was a good idea...and what was wrong with my comment!?!:cmad: :csad:

Oh, I didnt say there was anything wrong with your comment, it was just that I had nothing to add to it, because I dont know enough about wormholes to argue your point. I was just having fun with the quote button.

Dont be sad :csad: or mad :o !

[Zorex]

Milton Fine came to Earth and put Kryptonite in China a few months before the ship containing his artificial intelligence landed?

That sounds...so ridiculous. A takes emphasis away from his actual Arrival in the black ship in Commencement.

Not to mention that Kryptonians wouldn't be able to get Kryptonite before the Krypton exploded, because the rock is only harmful once irradiated, and that didn't happen until the big boom.

OOP. Maybe they manufactured some. Y'know...for kicks.

[Brainiac 8]

Ok I won't be...:woot:


Actually I was just making a silly reference to Stargate and how in Science Fiction you just have to accept some things without question.

You want some logic and reality behind the science fiction...then you read Asimov, otherwise you watch Stargate or Smallville.:cwink:

[triplet]

That one is just a matter of them changing sets between the production of the pilot episode and the production of the rest of the series.

It actually kind of frustrates me, because in the first episode they're in an actual computer lab, like journalism is an actual department at the school, and then after that it's this little office with, like, a computer - oh well. That's the nature of the beast, though.

They didn't change sets, they built them.

The Pilot had a lot of locations because they didn't have a series order yet and probably no budget to build a lot of sets. The only sets they built were the Kent farm and barn set, which they're still using.

The other sets - like the mansion, any locations in the school, the rest of the barn - were locations originally.

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

They didn't change sets, they built them.

The Pilot had a lot of locations because they didn't have a series order yet and probably no budget to build a lot of sets. The only sets they built were the Kent farm and barn set, which they're still using.

The other sets - like the mansion, any locations in the school, the rest of the barn - were locations originally.

I remember. The most significant change came in the Luthor Mansion. The pilot was actually shot in a mansion. Now, they shoot it in a sound stage with a few corridors and that huge office/panic room area of Lex.

By the way, it's good to be back here guys.

So, Trip, howz my favorite Smallville diva been all these months? :)

[triplet]

I remember. The most significant change came in the Luthor Mansion. The pilot was actually shot in a mansion. Now, they shoot it in a sound stage with a few corridors and that huge office/panic room area of Lex.

*nods*

Yep.

By the way, it's good to be back here guys.

Good to have you back! :D :up:

So, Trip, howz my favorite Smallville diva been all these months? :)

Nursing something that is making me feel pretty lousy today (going to take a nap now, I think) and I still need a new job like last month, but other than that, I'm good.

:D

Oh, btw: I'm REAAAHHHHEAAALLLY looking forward to Hydro!

Can't wait til thursday cause I need a tommy/smallville fix something fierce!

The fact the his Super-ness directed said ep is just adding to the anticipation this fangirl is feeling.

:up: :D

Now, if only he could take his shirt off once this season, I'd be in heaven.

;)

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

Oh, btw: I'm REAAAHHHHEAAALLLY looking forward to Hydro!

As am I.


Can't wait til thursday cause I need a tommy/smallville fix something fierce!

The fact the his Super-ness directed said ep is just adding to the anticipation this fangirl is feeling.

:up: :D


I have high hopes for this one. :up:

And contrary to popular belief, I'm a smallville fanboy myself :oldrazz:

I was very disappointed with Subterrenean, though, and I sincerely hope that it gets better from here onwards.


Now, if only he could take his shirt off once this season, I'd be in heaven.

;)


I'm sure it'll happen as the season unravels ;)

[Brainiac 8]

What's funny is I didn't think Subterranean was that bad, other than the inconsistencies dealing with the schedule shuffle I enjoyed it.

[Migu-EL]

^^ Me too.

[avidreader]

^^^ Me three. :yay:

[Kaboom]

^^^^me four

[Brainiac 8]

^^Me five....oh wait...I started it.:ninja:

[Kaboom]

^^^me six, but wait i was four



oh no ive gone cross-eyed

[Brainiac 8]

http://www.getfit.ru/pic/dcontent/news.pagepublication.cross-eyed_man307.jpg

[Lt. Figgnuts]

That sounds...so ridiculous. A takes emphasis away from his actual Arrival in the black ship in Commencement.

Those were pretty much my thoughts.

OOP. Maybe they manufactured some. Y'know...for kicks.

Yep, those wacky Kryptonians, always messing with radiation and the like.

[Eros]

that was in L and C where they showed it for the first time i think.

actually superman used the mirror to shave on superman the animated series, he never did it on Lois and Clark.

[blksuperman2]

actually superman used the mirror to shave on superman the animated series, he never did it on Lois and Clark.

I could've sworn he did in a couple of episodes. It has been like 8 yrs since I've seen the show though.

[Kaboom]

actually superman used the mirror to shave on superman the animated series, he never did it on Lois and Clark.
i am almost positive he did...but i have been wrong before

[blksuperman2]

How do you find this stuff? :whatever:



Yeah, so what's your point. :cwink:



See, proves my point. I think. :huh:



I have nothing to say to this, but I just love the multiple quote button. :woot:

There's a multiple quote button? Sorry for my newbie ignorance.:o :csad:

[Eros]

i am almost positive he did...but i have been wrong before

Well their are very few times have you been wrong imo.....Kaboom.

[Brainiac 8]

actually superman used the mirror to shave on superman the animated series, he never did it on Lois and Clark.


Yes, he did, I watched the episode with it a few days ago in fact.

[Eros]

Yes, he did, I watched the episode with it a few days ago in fact.


really what episode was it?

[avidreader]

There's a multiple quote button? Sorry for my newbie ignorance.:o :csad:

Its part of the groovy new updates. Its very handy.

And I'll chime in and say that Clark on LnC did shave using his heat vision and a mirror. It was in the first season, but I cant remember which episode.

[Eros]

Its part of the groovy new updates. Its very handy.

And I'll chime in and say that Clark on LnC did shave using his heat vision and a mirror. It was in the first season, but I cant remember which episode.

I have the first season on DVD, and he never did that.

[Brainiac 8]

really what episode was it?


It's within the first few episodes they did it. I'll have to check, I've been rewatching the L&C seasons.

[Kaboom]

i too have season one of LnC on dvd so ill check...but not till after i watch my gators play

[Eros]

i too have season one of LnC on dvd so ill check...but not till after i watch my gators play


and watch the gators win.

[Brainiac 8]

and watch the gators lose.


Sounds almost like you just called Boomster out.:wow: :hyper:

[Lt. Figgnuts]

actually superman used the mirror to shave on superman the animated series, he never did it on Lois and Clark.

That's what I thought too, but I checked and Lois and Clark predates TAS by a good three years or so. So if Lois and Clark DID do it, they definitely did it first. :o

[AgentPat]

I have the first season on DVD, and he never did that.L&C? Dean Cain? Shaving using heat vision and a mirror? Yes, he did. First season. 100% POSITIVE I am. :)

[Spider-Gamer]

and watch the gators win.
Why change your post when Brainiac 8 has your original post in a quote? :oldrazz:

[ariellem]

Now, if only he could take his shirt off once this season, I'd be in heaven.;)

Just once? Aim higher! :woot:

[ariellem]

Why do you think they're so in debt or have no money all the time? It's been family owned land for years. Family owned land like that doesn't cost that much money.

Kent family budget addendum
(assumes the eps we see are the "critical" days in their year and that the rest are pretty much normal human stuff):
----------------------
truck repair/replacement - est. 8x/yr @5-10k ~= 40-80k
replacement everyday clothes for Clark - est. 25x/yr @ avg. $25-50 ~= $625-$1250
home/barn/tractor repair/replacement - varies. In a good year, 1 of each :woot:

No wonder Martha took the political seat!

[ariellem]

Originally Posted by MJD http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10897941#post10897941)
Wasn't Clark told that the only way to stop Zod was to kill the Vessel?
That was to stop Zod from taking over Lex's body. Once Zod did take over the body, there were other ways to stop him.

Did he say "vessel" specifically? If so, perhaps this is a red herring for all of us! Maybe Jor-el meant Clark had to destroy Fine's ship to get rid of Zod.

[Brainiac 8]

L&C? Dean Cain? Shaving using heat vision and a mirror? Yes, he did. First season. 100% POSITIVE I am. :)


Me too, over the last week I have been blowing through my season one again, and I'm certain that it was within that season. It's just a bugger trying to find which episode.

I'll run through them tomorrow and try to find which one. I still think it was within the first few though.

Hopefully I can tell you tomorrow night.

[AgentPat]

Did he say "vessel" specifically?"Lex is the vessel of Zod."
- Clark to Lionel (from the episode, Vessel)

[triplet]

Just once? Aim higher! :woot:

Well, at least once...

It's almost halfway through the season and we've yet to see him shed his shirt.

*pouts*

Used to be we could depend on Clark being sans t-shirt a couple of times a year at least... I think we only got it once last year in Hypnotic, and the perfect chance for Clark to shed his shirt this year only had him pulling on a shirt as he walked down the steps.

:(

[Brainiac 8]

They are just readjusting you gals, since you all got spoiled during the fourth season.:cwink:

[LexCorp]

Shouldn't Lexs dad be dead already? I thought he died when he was young, in the comics of course.

[Brainiac 8]

Yes, he died in the comics...Lex killed him.

This aint the comics though.:o

[LexCorp]

My bad.

[Jack O Lantern]

:confused: Vince McMahon isn't a scientist...

I know my point was that just because a lead scienetist has axcess to time travel the general public doesn't. And since I don't know the name of a lead scientist I choose someone famous and I just happened to remember seeing his jet with DX

[ariellem]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ariellem http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10927164#post10927164)
Did he say "vessel" specifically?

"Lex is the vessel of Zod."
- Clark to Lionel (from the episode, Vessel)

Right. Should have been clearer - I meant during Jor-El's "must destroy the vessel to get rid of Zod" speech - did he specify the Lex vessel or could he have been referring *either* to Lex as the vessel of Zod's spirit *or* to the ship as the vessel for Fine/Brainiac?

[ariellem]

They are just readjusting you gals, since you all got spoiled during the fourth season.:cwink:

Verrry spoiled, and that was perfectly fine.

I hope they're not doing this on purpose, as a maturation indicator - first he was too young/shy to, then he was all over the place and "finding" himself (along with the audience!), and now he's on a mission and has better things to do than dilly-dally like that :csad:

[AgentPat]

Right. Should have been clearer - I meant during Jor-El's "must destroy the vessel to get rid of Zod" speech - did he specify the Lex vessel or could he have been referring *either* to Lex as the vessel of Zod's spirit *or* to the ship as the vessel for Fine/Brainiac?Does it matter what we heard Jor-El say? I mean, clearly Clark's task (as described by Clark himself) is to use the knife to kill the vessel of Zod, which Clark knows is Lex Luthor. If you're questioning whether Clark interpreted Jor-El's instruction wrong, then I guess that's a different ball of wax. But what use would a pocket knife be on Brainiac's ship? You'd think it would be some form of key or something. LOL :D

[KALEL114]

^ the first one is a good point. We have yet to see Shelby at all this season. Poor missing dog, and the Kents don't seem to care.:csad:


BIG plot hole....when did the kryptonians visit china to place a map and kryptonite in a secret vault.:huh:
I thought it was common knowledge that Kryptonians had visited Earth several times, hence the caves and the Indian prophecy. They were in Egypt why can't they be in China????

[Kaboom]

or that the tree from the map looked the same thousands of years later

[ariellem]

Does it matter what we heard Jor-El say? I mean, clearly Clark's task (as described by Clark himself) is to use the knife to kill the vessel of Zod, which Clark knows is Lex Luthor. If you're questioning whether Clark interpreted Jor-El's instruction wrong, then I guess that's a different ball of wax. But what use would a pocket knife be on Brainiac's ship? You'd think it would be some form of key or something. LOL :D

I guess I am wondering if Clark failed to catch an alternative to killing Lex.

Knife vs. ship: well, it's a *special* knife <LOL>. A special knife made from *good* crystals, to be used against the "black oil" ship (X-Files nod here) or any other evil, extraterrestrial entity... like those escaped PZ monsters.

Knife vs. key: the key is to get *into* something; the knife is to get something *out* :woot:

Doesn't much matter - but I am wondering if Clark is going to try to attack the ship itself at some point. I'm assuming he can't kill Brainiac in SV since the latter is such a major villain, but he could sure try to hurt him or send him into space or whatever - maybe disable the ship (remove its energy source) and hurl it into space, so Brainiac has to recover, repower, and return... It would be interesting to see this play out.

[Lt. Figgnuts]

I thought it was common knowledge that Kryptonians had visited Earth several times, hence the caves and the Indian prophecy. They were in Egypt why can't they be in China????

Well, we know that Jor-El was there for a while (Relic, right?) but why else would other Kryptonians see the need to come to Earth?

Especially to hide pieces of a key to an ice fortress which harbors an artificial intelligence?

I suppose Jor-El could have done it during his time on Earth (or later, since apparently Kryptonians were zipping all across the galaxy before they got blowed up), but it once again begs the question of where they got the Kryptonite with which to protect the stones (at least the one in China, I can't remember about Egypt or wherever the hell the other one was). Considering the fact that Kryptonite is an irradiated piece of Krypton, it seems inconsistent.

Not to mention the fact that, if it were KRYPTONIANS that hid the stones, why would they put Kryptonite there to protect it? Protect it from who? From them? Kryptonite only effects Kryptonians (unless we're in Smallvilleverse, in which case Krypton CAN affect others, but only with some outside interference - lightning or some other contributing factor - and it usually doesn't kill them, but just give them abilities), so I guess one could argue that it was indeed humans that hid the stones - but again, where did they get the stones and how did they know that Kryptonite would keep people like Clark out? Secondly, why would they WANT to?

When you really stop and think about it, there seem to a be a few holes in the stones plot...

[AgentPat]

or that the tree from the map looked the same thousands of years laterLOL! I wondered about that too.

...I am wondering if Clark is going to try to attack the ship itself at some point. I'm assuming he can't kill Brainiac in SV since the latter is such a major villain, but he could sure try to hurt him or send him into space or whatever - maybe disable the ship (remove its energy source) and hurl it into space, so Brainiac has to recover, repower, and return... It would be interesting to see this play out.Brainiac, the ship and Zod are gone. According to G&M, that arc is over - for now. SV's Superman (e.g. Tom Welling's version *cough*) may or may not encounter Zod or Brainiac again in the future. Other versions? Who knows?

[KALEL114]

Well, we know that Jor-El was there for a while (Relic, right?) but why else would other Kryptonians see the need to come to Earth?

Especially to hide pieces of a key to an ice fortress which harbors an artificial intelligence?

I suppose Jor-El could have done it during his time on Earth (or later, since apparently Kryptonians were zipping all across the galaxy before they got blowed up), but it once again begs the question of where they got the Kryptonite with which to protect the stones (at least the one in China, I can't remember about Egypt or wherever the hell the other one was). Considering the fact that Kryptonite is an irradiated piece of Krypton, it seems inconsistent.

Not to mention the fact that, if it were KRYPTONIANS that hid the stones, why would they put Kryptonite there to protect it? Protect it from who? From them? Kryptonite only effects Kryptonians (unless we're in Smallvilleverse, in which case Krypton CAN affect others, but only with some outside interference - lightning or some other contributing factor - and it usually doesn't kill them, but just give them abilities), so I guess one could argue that it was indeed humans that hid the stones - but again, where did they get the stones and how did they know that Kryptonite would keep people like Clark out? Secondly, why would they WANT to?

When you really stop and think about it, there seem to a be a few holes in the stones plot...
This should help clear things up a bit.
16th Century
1502 AD: An ancestor of Kal-El's comes to Earth with several radiated rocks of Krypton. He falls in love with a Native American woman, resulting in the start of the Kawatche people. During some point along, this prophetic Kryptonian man forged the prophecies in the Kawatche caves, hiding several "parasites" from his home-world within the cave walls, and burying the ancient "star blade" so that it would take at least 500 years to recover it. Knowing his destiny did not lay on Earth with the first of the Kawatche, Kal-El's ancestor bids them farewell, promising he (or rather his descendant, "Na-Man") would return to protect them all again. He then swiftly flies off, hides the sacred Kryptonian crystals of Fire, Water, and Air all around the world while building the reputation as a mighty "god" along the way. He then leaves for Krypton once and for all, swearing to the natives of China that he would return for what was his (the Air crystal) one day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallville_Timeline

[Lt. Figgnuts]

That's total speculation, with no source to back it up.

[Brainiac 8]

That sounds like a quick fanfic to explain some of the inconsistencies. Especially since Wiki is written by about anyone, it can't be used as a deffinite source, unless they had a link to some official site.

Plus, if the Kawatchee came from a relationship between a Kryptonian and a Earth woman, wouldn't that make the Kawatchee a race of suedo Super people? Plus, how does that explain the wolf changing?

[KALEL114]

Skinwalker season 2 episode 10 pretty much explains it the same way. If you don't have access to it here is a recap.
http://www.tv.com/smallville/skinwalker/episode/202570/summary.html?tag=ep_list;title;9
http://smallville.wikia.com/wiki/Skinwalker
This is really not a plot hole.

[Lunar_Wolf]

Remember the ep where Clark goes blind?(Whisper) he goes to his locker with Pete to pick up books? What the hell does a blind Clark want books for?

[blksuperman2]

Remember the ep where Clark goes blind?(Whisper) he goes to his locker with Pete to pick up books? What the hell does a blind Clark want books for?


LOL. I remember when I first saw that scene I thought the same thing.

I see says the blind man.:word:

[triplet]

LOL. I remember when I first saw that scene I thought the same thing.

I had the impression that he was getting them so his mom could help him study...

*shrug*

It didn't bother me.

[blksuperman2]

I had the impression that he was getting them so his mom could help him study...

*shrug*

It didn't bother me.

Maybe that is what the scene implied. I just thought it was odd.

[Lunar_Wolf]

Or maybe he was going to get the books translated into Braille:huh:

[Bruce_Wayne29]

I was just watching Hidden yesterday and something occured to me.
When Lana had last seen Clark he was without clothes in the hospital bed pronounced dead right ?
How the hell does Clark explain re-appearing not only alive but with his clothes all full of holes and burnt (plus he has his face all dark from smoke) to Lana ? loooool

[Cmill216]

Just read through this thread. Good times.

A couple of notes:

-I also found it weird that Chloe, a freshman, was running the school paper. And what else I found weird was that we know from episodes like "Metamorphisis" and "Pariah" that there were other writers on the Torch, but we never actually see anyone in the Torch office besides Chloe, Clark, and Pete. And what kind of sane high school journalism department would leave their paper in the hands of a freshman team? :p

-Lana and Whitney: Maybe this isn't the case in other towns, but the hotshot senior quarterback of the football team dating a friggin' freshman IS odd.

-Nitpicking on Clark's hair: re-tar-ded. (my dad does this with Supernatural. "How do Sam and Dean keep themselves looking sharp while their on the road?" :woot:)

[RakuMon]

Just read through this thread. Good times.

-Lana and Whitney: Maybe this isn't the case in other towns, but the hotshot senior quarterback of the football team dating a friggin' freshman IS odd.


This really isn't that odd. Lana might have been a freshman, but she was still one of the most popular girls in school. I'm from a small town in which there was no middle school. Elementary was K-7, High School was 8-12. And seniors not only dated freshmen, but they also dated eighth graders. All. The. Time.

I forget which episode it was, but I know it was first season. Clark's talking to Lana about Chloe. I forget why, but Clark's worried Chloe's going to die and he tells Lana about the first time Chloe planted a kiss on him and how they'd been friends "ever since the eighth grade." I remember thinking at the time, "isn't that just last year?"

[Cmill216]

but she was still one of the most popular girls in school.

How is that even possible? SHE WAS A FRESHMAN!

And seniors not only dated freshmen, but they also dated eighth graders. All. The. Time.

That's not right. :wow:

I forget which episode it was, but I know it was first season. Clark's talking to Lana about Chloe. I forget why, but Clark's worried Chloe's going to die and he tells Lana about the first time Chloe planted a kiss on him and how they'd been friends "ever since the eighth grade." I remember thinking at the time, "isn't that just last year?"

I think it was Season 3.

[RakuMon]

How is that even possible? SHE WAS A FRESHMAN!
Well, Smallville's a small town and the Langs were probably one of the cornerstones of the community. Ever since she was a little girl, everyone in Smallville knew who Lana Lang was. Remember, she was the "sad little girl" on the cover of TIME.

Also, the fact that Nell's flower shop was across the street from Fordman's Sporting Goods probably added to the relationship between Whit and Lana. That might have been how they met.

That's not right. :wow:

Just said that it's not unusual. Never said it was right!

I think it was Season 3.
Really? Which one?

[Cmill216]

Well, Smallville's a small town and the Langs were probably one of the cornerstones of the community. Ever since she was a little girl, everyone in Smallville knew who Lana Lang was. Remember, she was the "sad little girl" on the cover of TIME.

Also, the fact that Nell's flower shop was across the street from Fordman's Sporting Goods probably added to the relationship between Whit and Lana. That might have been how they met.

Hmm. Good points.

Really? Which one?

You're right. It's Season 1, "Obscura".

[avidreader]

I think it was Season 3.

Actually, it was the first season. Obscura, when Chloe is kidnapped by the hero wannabe cop.

edit. oops. I see you already remembered. :D

[ariellem]

Don't know if this qualifies as a plothole - and I'll move it to the Justice discussion if you prefer - but why does Ollie/GA suddenly need to leave town for good rather than simply hop his jet and take a business trip?

[RakuMon]

Don't know if this qualifies as a plothole - and I'll move it to the Justice discussion if you prefer - but why does Ollie/GA suddenly need to leave town for good rather than simply hop his jet and take a business trip?
Haven't been to the Justice thread yet, so this may have already been answered.

Apparently the whole reason he was even in Metropolis was to investigate Luthor's 33.1 project. Once Cyborg and A.C. were able to access Luthor's mainframe, they learned he was setting up facilities all over the globe. Ollie has to leave to take out those facilities with the rest of the League and go "save the world."