Mac or PC?

[Noir]

Well, what did you guys do? I have a PC and a Mac, but I use my Mac alot more.. infact right now I'm using my Powerbook Wallstreet with OS 10.2.8
I think the Macs are alot cooler.. what do you guys us?
Mac or PC (Linux, Windows, Unix)?

[Ben Urich]

Mac Powerbook G4 :up:

[Cinemaman]

Windows XP Professional owns!!! :mad: :up:

[hippy fascist]

I used to be a big mac fan but then they went from a quality pc manufacturer to a ****ing designer label and jacked all their prices up. Not to mention their constant *****ing over the years about microsoft's monopoly, only for them to introduce the Ipod as incompatible with anything other than I-tunes :cmad:

[jimmy]

PC for me. but Mac owns for recording and studio stuff.

[Spoarz™]

I'm currently using an eMac. I prefer Apple Macs by a mile. :up:

[Darth Elektra]

I own both... I use my PC the most.

[Bat Attack]

Pc.

[huskerwebhead]

PC....for work and at home.

[tzarinna]

Powerbook G4
OSX 10.4.7

[Master Chief]

PC.

Had a laptop but the CMOS battery or something is all f**ked.

[Ben Urich]

Powerbook G4
OSX 10.4.7

They're up to 10.4.8 now. :up:

[tzarinna]

I think I might hang with this for a little bit longer.

[Noir]

I think I might hang with this for a little bit longer.
Wait til Leopard comes out, thats gonna blow you away.

[Asteroid-Man]

Pc!

[PhotoJones]

i don't even like to look at PCs anymore. MACs all the way, for me.

[TRUE]

mac

[WTFimVENOM]

alienware :up:

[fu manchu]

I currently own a PC. but I like to get a Mac computer.

[Moon |つき|]

I used to be a big mac fan but then they went from a quality pc manufacturer to a ****ing designer label and jacked all their prices up. Not to mention their constant *****ing over the years about microsoft's monopoly, only for them to introduce the Ipod as incompatible with anything other than I-tunes :cmad:
-claps- Agreed.
alienware :up:

Okay, so where was that option at?


PC all the way. :D

[Moviefan2k4]

PC all the way; mine started out as an EMachine, but over the last 3 years I've replaced a few components (mouse, power supply, motherboard, network card) and installed a couple more (another 512 MB of RAM memory, graphics tablet, and a DVD+DL drive). I use my computer primarily for Photoshop, but I also have a slight affinity for screenwriting (been trying to finish my own scifi script; no luck as of yet). I took a computer literacy class on a Mac in junior high, but since then I've done my best to avoid Apple like the plague.

[Matt Murdock]

mac.

[Locs]

You would think all the years of abuse from PCs would thrust me towards MACs, but like an abuse addicted whore I creep back to PCs time and time again. The cycle must be stopped!

[arachnid-guy]

PC.

[Though I do plan on getting a MAC.....eventually- but for the time being, I love my new Laptop. It's very, very buff.]


:woot:

[Locs]

^Hmm, so you're too lazy to tranfer your porn?

[arachnid-guy]

Yes.

























:dry:

[swifty]

pc mainly because everything on the net is primarily available for windows xp soon to be vista otherwise I would have made the Mac switch a long time ago.

I love Mac's interface by a long shot, I can fully turn windows xp interface with that of OS X with a freeware program called FlyakiteOSX 3.5, it does the job amicably.

[arachnid-guy]

pc mainly because everything on the net is primarily available for windows xp soon to be vista otherwise I would have made the Mac switch a long time ago.

I love Mac's interface by a long shot, I can fully turn windows xp interface with that of OS X with a freeware program called FlyakiteOSX 3.5, it does the job amicably.

Once you change the look...can you reset it back to XP style? :huh:

And what changes/improvements does it hold over XP?

[wiegeabo]

Why are Linux, Unix, and Windows lumped together?

Vista is the best thing to happen to Apple. I'm not even going to touch it until at least service pack 1 comes out. And I've always been die hard PC. But now, Mac's got the big advantage. Better hardware and more user-friendly OS. There stuff just seems to work, while I have to fight with XP sometimes. And Apple provides much nicer software with their OS than Microsoft does. I can't wait for Leopard just so I can use Time Machine.

But sometimes Apple makes things too easy on the Mac, and it's actually faster to do the stuff in Windows because of the keyboard interactivity Microsoft provides (Mac's are too mouse heavy). And I like how programs install/unistall on Windows better than they do on the Mac.

And now I'm trying to get back into Linux.

[Crooklyn]

But sometimes Apple makes things too easy on the Mac, and it's actually faster to do the stuff in Windows because of the keyboard interactivity Microsoft provides (Mac's are too mouse heavy). And I like how programs install/unistall on Windows better than they do on the Mac.
This whole paragraph is a huge "WTF". :huh:

[wiegeabo]

Try to do the same complicated task on a PC or Mac, and you usually can. Now, take the mouse away and try to do it. On a PC, you'll slow down a little, but be fine. On a Mac, you're generally screwed.

And when you need to do repetitive tasks, it's much easier and faster to do them with keyboard shortcuts. Mac's keyboard shortcuts are a joke when compared to how fast they can be done on a Windows machine. (Being able to use Alt+letter combinations is much better than memorizing shortcuts.)


When it come to installing programs, Mac has the advantage when the package can just be dropped as a whole into the Applications folder, and it's installed. And uninstalling is just a matter of deleting that package.

The problem comes when Mac software needs to be installed with an installer program. The installation is fine, but they rarely ever package an uninstaller. So you have to dig around the system getting rid of all the files the software uses when you want to get rid of it. Whereas Windows programs either come with an uninstaller that cleans everything up, or Windows can uninstall programs through Add/Remove Program in Control Panel.

[Crooklyn]

Try to do the same complicated task on a PC or Mac, and you usually can. Now, take the mouse away and try to do it. On a PC, you'll slow down a little, but be fine. On a Mac, you're generally screwed.
Yeah, but...there's always a mouse handy. :huh:


And when you need to do repetitive tasks, it's much easier and faster to do them with keyboard shortcuts. Mac's keyboard shortcuts are a joke when compared to how fast they can be done on a Windows machine. (Being able to use Alt+letter combinations is much better than memorizing shortcuts.)
I'm pretty sure most of the shortcuts are the same. Ctrl in Windows, is equal to Cmd in OSX.

When it come to installing programs, Mac has the advantage when the package can just be dropped as a whole into the Applications folder, and it's installed. And uninstalling is just a matter of deleting that package.

The problem comes when Mac software needs to be installed with an installer program. The installation is fine, but they rarely ever package an uninstaller. So you have to dig around the system getting rid of all the files the software uses when you want to get rid of it. Whereas Windows programs either come with an uninstaller that cleans everything up, or Windows can uninstall programs through Add/Remove Program in Control Panel.
Windows has that exact problem though. And is worse off since the search program isn't nearly as good as Finder. And in any case, I bypass all this by using a third-party program that uninstalls EVERYTHING from the get-go. I say both operating systems are even here, but a slight edge to the Mac.

[wiegeabo]

Yeah, but...there's always a mouse handy.
Not when it breaks. And, yes, I've had mice break after the stores have closed.


I don't mean those shortcuts. Copy/Paste is the same on both, although using Ctrl is a little easier than Cmd because of where the keys are placed.

I'm referring to all the shortcuts a program may offer. On a Mac, there's no way to use the commands in the menubar without memorizing the shortcut keys (for every program) or using the mouse.

In Windows, I may never have to move my hands from the keyboard because I can quickly navigate using Alt and letter combinations. Especially when commands don't have a shortcut. And when you're doing a lot of typing along with menu driven actions, not having to go back and forth between mouse and keyboard is a big time saver.


But I still voted Mac because I've got BootCamp when I need Windows.

[dpm07]

PC definitely.

Most places one goes will have a PC, but not everyone has a Mac. If you need to check files out someplace, and you have a disk or Jumpdrive, you have a better chance of finding a PC than you do a Mac. Not to mention, a Mac isn't compatibile with PC stuff.

[black_dust]

Pc all the way baby :D

[french joker]

http://www.cedmagic.com/history/imac-2002.jpg
:word:

[Golgo-13]

Mac.

[swifty]

arachnid-guy;11393306]Once you change the look...can you reset it back to XP style? :huh:

it should reset back to normal once you uninstall it otherwise it might be prudent to make a restore point just to be on the safe side, I haven't used it myself yet but my brother has and he's been happy with it so far, no change in system performance.

And what changes/improvements does it hold over XP?

well! you get the best of both worlds, Mac's interface with XP's functionality. The main improvement is Mac's Dock where you can arrange all of your very important applications and also Mac's high-res icons.

[Noir]

it should reset back to normal once you uninstall it otherwise it might be prudent to make a restore point just to be on the safe side, I haven't used it myself yet but my brother has and he's been happy with it so far, no change in system performance.



well! you get the best of both worlds, Mac's interface with XP's functionality. The main improvement is Mac's Dock where you can arrange all of your very important applications and also Mac's high-res icons.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/a/a8/Windows_XP_BSOD.png

[Kyalesyin]

Apparently, the windows blue screen was originally gonna be red, but that prompted some really unfavorable reaction from people.

I'm on a PC. I actually had a massive hissy fit a few days ago because we upgraded from 98 to XP, and now none of my games will work, except DK and I've played that to death since it came out in 95. I'm tempted to go back to 98 just so things will work.

[black_dust]

Apparently, the windows blue screen was originally gonna be red, but that prompted some really unfavorable reaction from people.

I'm on a PC. I actually had a massive hissy fit a few days ago because we upgraded from 98 to XP, and now none of my games will work, except DK and I've played that to death since it came out in 95. I'm tempted to go back to 98 just so things will work.

You would have to reformat your hard drive to do that and you`ll lose all your stuff, uninstall the games and install them again that sometimes works

[Kyalesyin]

You would have to reformat your hard drive to do that and you`ll lose all your stuff, uninstall the games and install them again that sometimes works

I can fit everything I need onto Stefs waytoomanygig spare hard drive. I don't think anything short of magic will get my 95 games to work on XP. I've installed DK1 three times and it still won't play. 2 works fine. The original? No chance. Same with Diablo 1, the original quake games...

I can't help it if I'm holding on to my childhood really, really tight.

[Mr. Thing]

PC. I would like to get a Mac someday, but Mac's cost almost double that of a PC. So I'm sticking with Windows for the time being.

[Crooklyn]

PC. I would like to get a Mac someday, but Mac's cost almost double that of a PC. So I'm sticking with Windows for the time being.
I can't believe people still get this notion. What prices are you people looking at? :huh:

[Noir]

I can fit everything I need onto Stefs waytoomanygig spare hard drive. I don't think anything short of magic will get my 95 games to work on XP. I've installed DK1 three times and it still won't play. 2 works fine. The original? No chance. Same with Diablo 1, the original quake games...

I can't help it if I'm holding on to my childhood really, really tight.
Get Windows 2000 Family Server. You can torrent it.

[mightiest_mortal]

Mac. Theyre really overrated but I still prefer them to PCs.

[black_dust]

I can fit everything I need onto Stefs waytoomanygig spare hard drive. I don't think anything short of magic will get my 95 games to work on XP. I've installed DK1 three times and it still won't play. 2 works fine. The original? No chance. Same with Diablo 1, the original quake games...

I can't help it if I'm holding on to my childhood really, really tight.

I play worms from time to time on mine :D haha

[jaguarr]

PC definitely.

Most places one goes will have a PC, but not everyone has a Mac. If you need to check files out someplace, and you have a disk or Jumpdrive, you have a better chance of finding a PC than you do a Mac. Not to mention, a Mac isn't compatibile with PC stuff.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

jag

[StorminNorman]

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20021126.jpg

:D

[WTFimVENOM]

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/neuspeed674/100_0041.jpg
Bad photo but good computer :woot:

[Addendum]

I'll stick with a PC for my games

[Deleted User]

PC. Basically, this is the exact summation of my feelings for Macs and Mac users: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant

And to the person that said that Macs are not over-priced, I would have to disagree with you there. I can get a PC with:

a NZXT Zero Aluminum Full Tower
NZXT 500W power supply
Core Duo 2 E6700 @ 2.66GHz
CoolerMaster Liquid CPU Cooling Fan + 2 extra case fans
2 GB (2x1GB) Corsair XM2 Xtreme Memory w/ heat spreader
nVidia 8800GTS 640MB graphics card
ViewSonic VA1912WB (Widescreen) 19" monitor
320GB SATA-II 3.0 Gb/s HDD
etc. and so forth (Creative Labs sound system, X-Fi 24-BIT PCI)
And a three-year protection plan

for about.. $2,600 ($2,571.00)

I can get a Mac with similar (and even lesser) features:
Intel Xeon 2.0GHz
250GB HDD
20" monitor
ATI X1900 XT 512MB
and the three year protection plan for a grand total of...

$3,696.00.

That's over a $1000 difference based on name alone. And unlike PCs, I don't believe there are any Mac configurators where you can customize them yourself..

[jaguarr]

^^^

Just curious which specific systems you are referencing because those numbers look very off. And it's not so cut and dry (nor disparate in pricing) as you'd like to lead people to believe. Some interesting reading on the subject:

http://lowendmac.com/fishkin/07/0109.html

http://www.systemshootouts.org/shootouts/desktop/2006/0809_dt3200.html

http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=22738

http://www.macworld.com/2006/08/features/macproprice/index.php
http://www.macworld.com/2006/08/opinion/dellmacprofollowup/index.php

Not to mention, you are talking about building your OWN PC by purchasing the separate components you prefer and then assembling it yourself if I am not mistaken. Definitely cheaper to build your own, but....you have to build your own. How many average consumers are going to do that? And if that's the case, you also didn't include the cost of the OS nor the fact that the protection plan only covers hardware and not head to toe technical support. You're basically comparing an apple to an orange (how punny of me) and talking about how the orange is cheaper without disclosing that you had to buy the seeds and grow the damn orange tree yourself. Most consumers either don't want to build their own computer or they don't know how. Not a straight across comparison, really. If I were to buy all the needed components to construct a Mac myself (some of which aren't available because of the way Apple controls the availability of certain things in the after-market hardware distribution channels), it would be far cheaper than just buying a Mac from Apple. Would it be fair for me to talk about how much cheaper it is to build my own Mac, if that were the case, than it is to buy a PC? Not in the least.

jag

[Deleted User]

^^^

Just curious which specific systems you are referencing because those numbers look very off. And it's not so cut and dry (nor disparate in pricing) as you'd like to lead people to believe. Some interesting reading on the subject:

http://lowendmac.com/fishkin/07/0109.html

http://www.systemshootouts.org/shootouts/desktop/2006/0809_dt3200.html

http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=22738

http://www.macworld.com/2006/08/features/macproprice/index.php
http://www.macworld.com/2006/08/opinion/dellmacprofollowup/index.php

jag

The problem is that the pricing really is that disparate. Why? Because you can get PCs other places than Dell, Alienware, Falcon-Northwest, or any other number of sites/PC providers. PCs can easily be configured and tuned to tastes at configurator sites like cyberpowerpc.com, viciouspc.com, and other sites for cheap. And they usually work much better than the junk you get from Dell.

As far as I can see, there is no "Mac configurator" or Mac online store where you can get a mid-to-high end machine made with exactly the parts you want that isn't Apple.com. The comparison between the Dell and Apple machine is bull**** because you can easily get a PC from anywhere else (and of higher quality) and have it cost less. You can't do the same with a Mac. This is the trump card that PCs have over Macs. You have much more flexibility with the "PC" name brand because it doesn't belong to one company. This is the opposite for Macs.

End rant.

[jaguarr]

The problem is that the pricing really is that disparate. Why? Because you can get PCs other places than Dell, Alienware, Falcon-Northwest, or any other number of sites/PC providers. PCs can easily be configured and tuned to tastes at configurator sites like cyberpowerpc.com, viciouspc.com, and other sites for cheap. And they usually work much better than the junk you get from Dell.

As far as I can see, there is no "Mac configurator" or Mac online store where you can get a mid-to-high end machine made with exactly the parts you want that isn't Apple.com. The comparison between the Dell and Apple machine is bull**** because you can easily get a PC from anywhere else (and of higher quality) and have it cost less. You can't do the same with a Mac. This is the trump card that PCs have over Macs. You have much more flexibility with the "PC" name brand because it doesn't belong to one company. This is the opposite for Macs.

End rant.

Give me the site that sells the exact configuration you listed above, then. I'd like to check it out. Or are you building your own system as was my first guess?

jag

[JTStarkiller]

I'll never own a PC in my life ever again.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Pc.

[JustABill]

Got a notebook PC, but wouldn't mind having a Mac. :up:

[wiegeabo]

What I'm noticing is that five years ago, probably only 5 or 10 percent of the votes would have been for Mac. Now, a third of them are for Mac.

[The Squirrel]

I use the PC the most because I like to play games.

But MACs have some cool features.

But I hate the one button mouse.

[04nbod]

i was using a mac last week in college, apparantly it is the standard for art and design. However simple functions like copy and paste are atrocious. I tried to copy a picture from my photobucket to photoshop and like hell would it let me. It didn't even had a print screen button. I've heard people complain that windows's simple interface is patronising but if it gets the job done quickly and effecively i'm all for it. I'm on a PC at home and I have very few problems with it. I can safely say never to touch a mac as my personal computer but i'm going to wait until i buy a new laptop for vista

[jaguarr]

i was using a mac last week in college, apparantly it is the standard for art and design. However simple functions like copy and paste are atrocious. I tried to copy a picture from my photobucket to photoshop and like hell would it let me. It didn't even had a print screen button. I've heard people complain that windows's simple interface is patronising but if it gets the job done quickly and effecively i'm all for it. I'm on a PC at home and I have very few problems with it. I can safely say never to touch a mac as my personal computer but i'm going to wait until i buy a new laptop for vista

How hard is it to drag and drop an image from the web onto your desktop in a Mac and then open it in Photoshop? Or use Command+C to copy and Command+V to paste? :huh:

jag

[ghosthorse]

I own pc.

[04nbod]

How hard is it to drag and drop an image from the web onto your desktop in a Mac and then open it in Photoshop? Or use Command+C to copy and Command+V to paste? :huh:

jag

it kept on asking me to select all and then copying the entire page. It was just really inconveniant. I didn't want to put the pic on the hard drive either so saving and opening was out of the question. the shortcuts wouldn't work either it again would copy the entire page, maybe my machine was faulty either way its taking the long way round.

[jaguarr]

it kept on asking me to select all and then copying the entire page. It was just really inconveniant. I didn't want to put the pic on the hard drive either so saving and opening was out of the question. the shortcuts wouldn't work either it again would copy the entire page, maybe my machine was faulty either way its taking the long way round.

Sorry, but this really sounds like more of an issue with you just being unfamiliar with how a Mac works than anything else. A lot of Windows users try to use them just like Windows and wind up with troubles similar to yours.

jag

[04nbod]

Sorry, but this really sounds like more of an issue with you just being unfamiliar with how a Mac works than anything else. A lot of Windows users try to use them just like Windows and wind up with troubles similar to yours.

jag

i've been using mac in college since september prior to that i had never used it. I knew the shortcuts and the dragging and dropping techniques but in this instance it was really tempremental and wouldn't do anything properly. The mac suite has become a source of humour in my college:oldrazz: :woot:

[jaguarr]

i've been using mac in college since september prior to that i had never used it. I knew the shortcuts and the dragging and dropping techniques but in this instance it was really tempremental and wouldn't do anything properly. The mac suite has become a source of humour in my college:oldrazz: :woot:

Could have been a problem with that particular Mac, but honestly (and I'm really not trying to ding you at all), it does sound like a PEBCAK error more than anything else. :)

jag

[Scarlet spidey]

I use the PC the most because I like to play games.

But MACs have some cool features.

But I hate the one button mouse.
So... buy one that has two buttons?:confused:

[Kaboom]

ive had pcs for fifteen years, my next comp which i will be buying in the newxt few weeks will be a mac

[Sugarculted]

I used to hate Macs, just due to me not being used to them.

Now though, I can't get through my course without using one. I've always preferred the PC, until now. I've been tempted to get a Mac for some while now. Features like Garageband and iMovie are pretty cool.