The Official Start/Release Date & Location Thread

[SatEL]

Am I the only one who doesn’t go anywhere near a cinema around Christmas? I tend to be to occupied with other things, I assumed others would be the same.

[mclay18]

People also forget that Superman: The Movie came out December 15, 1978 and did exceptionally well during that period.

Why are people questioning the film's Christmas 2012 slot? The LOTR trilogy, Avatar and Sherlock Holmes prove that you can have blockbuster films in the winter as well as the summer.

[Wise]

21st release would be a good way to spend the last day of the Mayan long count calaneder.

[DorkyFresh]

21st release would be a good way to spend the last day of the Mayan long count calaneder.

haha yeah, as long as Superman's released before the end of the world i'll be alright.

[FilmNerdJamie]

All about competition, kiddos, and right now Superman only has Snow White & the Huntsman. Something granted Universal is confident in, but still. The reboot will dominant next Christmas.

Unlike Spider-Man 2.0 (which I don't know anybody who cares about it and/or likes Andrew Garfield from those pictures) that'll get its ass kicked by Star Trek 2.

[SatEL]

All about competition, kiddos, and right now Superman only has Snow White & the Huntsman. Something granted Universal is confident in, but still. The reboot will dominant next Christmas.

Unlike Spider-Man 2.0 (which I don't know anybody who cares it and/or likes Andrew Garfield from those pictures) that'll get its ass kicked by Star Trek 2.

No chance my friend, lol its still Spiderman after all don’t forget that.

[Armored Avenger]

December 2012 seems like a strange date to release Superman. Warner Brothers are also releasing The Hobbit in December of 2012 and I doubt they would have 2 of their biggest upcoming films competing against each other.

[Jake Cassidy]

^ The Hobbit has been moved to 2013.

[FilmNerdJamie]

^ The Hobbit has been moved to 2013.

Not yet, dude. Officially. Just a matter of time.

[Jake Cassidy]

^ Close enough.

[Dark Knight]

All about competition, kiddos, and right now Superman only has Snow White & the Huntsman. Something granted Universal is confident in, but still. The reboot will dominant next Christmas.

Unlike Spider-Man 2.0 (which I don't know anybody who cares about it and/or likes Andrew Garfield from those pictures) that'll get its ass kicked by Star Trek 2.




Exactly. WB's will be able to "corner the market" by releasing the Superman film Wednesday December 19th or Friday the 21st of 2012.

Basically the weekend before XMas.

The Superman film will be the MAIN attraction without a doubt with this release date, especially if WB's chooses to just push the release date of The Hobbit Part 1 to Summer 2013. Which they should do IMO.

By doing this, they would be setting the Man Of Steel film up for three solid and successful #1 Weekends in row at the Box Office due to school being out for Winter Holiday break for high school teens and college tweens. Plus adults usually take two weeks off as well for their winter vacation or end of the year Holiday break.

Potentially of course, the film could be #1 the weekend of the 21st, 28th and the 4th most likely.

Then momentum would simply keep building after that IF the film is any good that is. Plus the rewatch value will most likely be high.

:supes:

[FilmNerdJamie]

^ Close enough.

Let me put it this way. If this was hitting next Christmas, then they wouldn't be working around Martin Freeman's Sherlock schedule (They'd have merely gone elsewhere) and Sir Ian McKellen wouldn't be having such epic gaps to run off and do other **** over the next 18 months.

[Poopyman]

Legendary Pictures also plans on releasing Godzilla (untitled) in December 2012. I still dont understand why they would release two big franchise names in the same month to compete with themselves.

[Jake Cassidy]

I wasn't questioning you, Jamie. :yay:

I don't really care since I'm not gonna see The Hobbit anyway.


I don't think Godzilla would stand a chance against Superman.

[FilmNerdJamie]

All Godzilla has is a unspecified 2012 release and a director - no story, screenwriter, etc. Not holding my breath expecting that next year.

[Showtime]

No chance my friend, lol its still Spiderman after all don’t forget that.

Wedged between Star Trek 2 & Dark Knight Rises? Good luck Spidey.

I'm thinking either the 14th or the 19th. Big opening weekend followed by the holiday bumps.

[SatEL]

Wedged between Star Trek 2 & Dark Knight Rises? Good luck Spidey.

I'm thinking either the 14th or the 19th. Big opening weekend followed by the holiday bumps.

Spiderman will win, of course I would want TDKR to take it but I just don’t see Spidey losing. Of course I might just be getting influenced by how Raimi Spidey used to clean up at the Box office.

[Jake Cassidy]

^ Where does Avengers fit in there?

[Armored Avenger]

^ The Hobbit has been moved to 2013.

Part 2 is 2013, Part 1 is still 2012. Filming starts next month for a December 2012 release date.

[mclay18]

Wedged between Star Trek 2 & Dark Knight Rises? Good luck Spidey.

I'm thinking either the 14th or the 19th. Big opening weekend followed by the holiday bumps.

Why the 19th? Granted, WB's released several films on Wednesday (SR, HP6, T4, et al) but the movies opening up on 12/14 and 12/21 don't pose a significant threat for the Superman movie since they're aimed at different people.

Unless WB's so confident they want both TDKR and Superman almost exactly 5 months apart...

[FilmNerdJamie]

Superman hitting Christmas has nothing to do with confidence or lack thereof. It has to be released by the end of the year at the latest or they'll lose their share of the rights.

[Catman]

The LOTR trilogy, Avatar and Sherlock Holmes prove that you can have blockbuster films in the winter as well as the summer.

People think that the most successful movies are always released in the summer. That's not true. In the last 30 years, these winter releases dominated the year:

Beverly Hills Cop (released on December 5)
Three Men and a Baby (released on November 25)
Rain Man (released on December 16)
Home Alone (released on November 16)
Aladdin (released on November 25)
Toy Story (released on November 22)
Titanic (released on December 19); highest grossing film ever for 12 years
The Grinch (released on November 17)
Harry Potter 1 (released on November 16)
LOTR 3 (released on December 17)
Avatar (released on December 18); currently the highest grossing film ever

Also, Gone with the Wind, Doctor Zhivago, The Exorcist (that's right), and Snow White, 4 of the top 10 highest grossing films of all-time (adjusted for inflation) were winter releases.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Wedged between Star Trek 2 & Dark Knight Rises? Good luck Spidey.I agree, Spidey is going to have to build the fanbase back up again after Spidey 3 left a bad taste in people's mouths plus it has a other cast so it can't even play off of people's good memories of the franchise. I expect it to gross like 210 to 225mil total if people still give a s**t about 3D by the time it comes out. I expect Star Trek 2 to gross atleast as much as the first one did. (after Iron Man 2's disappointing numbers I'm not going to be so bold anymore)Unlike Iron Man 2, if Trek 2 is just as good/better I expect 280 to 310mil for it.

I'm thinking either the 14th or the 19th. Big opening weekend followed by the holiday bumps.I perfer a Summer release date for Superman but I can see how it could thrive during the hollidays. It's going to have to do a great deal better than Holmes did domesticially though.

[Jake Cassidy]

TDKR and Avengers are gonna be the 1's to beat.

[mclay18]

People think that the most successful movies are always released in the summer. That's not true. In the last 30 years, these winter releases dominated the year:

*snip*

Also, Gone with the Wind, Doctor Zhivago, The Exorcist (that's right), and Snow White, 4 of the top 10 highest grossing films of all-time (adjusted for inflation) were winter releases.

You have a point there. However, the earlier ones (from the 1980s up to mid-1990s) were mostly comedies or Disney films. It wasn't until Titanic came out that studios realized they could release big-budget fare in the winter. And even with the numerous successes with Cameron's last two films and franchise tentpoles like HP and Twilight during the winter, the studios still aren't staking out many prime winter releases for big-budget films.

[KRIM]

You have a point there. However, the earlier ones (from the 1980s up to mid-1990s) were mostly comedies or Disney films. It wasn't until Titanic came out that studios realized they could release big-budget fare in the winter. And even with the numerous successes with Cameron's last two films and franchise tentpoles like HP and Twilight during the winter, the studios still aren't staking out many prime winter releases for big-budget films.
I consider that a fortunate advantage for whoever is due in that slot. Spring and Summer is always crowded which leads to many of the films eating into each other's grosses. The Christmas slot allows one film (or even two) almost an entire month all to themselves. If it's a tentpole blockbuster, all the better for the cash to come in.

[mclay18]

Superman hitting Christmas has nothing to do with confidence or lack thereof. It has to be released by the end of the year at the latest or they'll lose their share of the rights.

I wasn't questioning why WB was releasing Superman in December 2012, I was questioning why they're pondering a Wednesday release. A Friday release would make the opening weekend look better by comparison.

*looks at the films released around that period*

Oh, so maybe the WB hopes for an Avatar-style opening and hold for Superman? It has to be really good if it hopes to reach even half that number domestically. But hey, not complaining at all.

[batlovescatDC]

There is always a huge "blockbuster Christmas movie" that comes out each year (usually). I think Superman could definitely be that for 2012. It's a very smart release date if you ask me. Theaters are PACKED on Christmas day with families. You put out a movie like The Man of Steel, you are gonna have a every fanboy, fangirl, mom, dad, and child seeing that movie. Smart move, WB.

[Catman]

You have a point there. However, the earlier ones (from the 1980s up to mid-1990s) were mostly comedies or Disney films.

That's because the winter season is also the holiday season, so it makes sense to release family friendly content. And, to this day, many of the blockbusters follow in that mold. Harry Potter is very family friendly. Especially the earlier installments. The first Chronicles of Narnia was a huge hit in 2005. Those National Treasure flicks were big hits.

Superman, compared to Batman, is very family friendly. So, it works as a holiday film. Heck, the `78 movie was a holiday release.

[mclay18]

^ Where does Avengers fit in there?

What are you talking about, specifically? The Avengers is coming out May 4, 2012 -- and it has a solid two weeks to itself. (Not to mention that Disney will get a full marketing blitz for their first Marvel film.) I doubt Battleship will pose a serious challenge, especially since Mi3 will crush it the week after.

Compared to TDKR and Superman, I'd say WB picked a good spot for both. The former will be the last big film of the summer, and Superman will rake in serious Christmas money like the first.

[Zachhelms]

December 2012 seems like the perfect time. I will be there opening night first in line.

[FilmNerdJamie]

The Avengers...I don't know...still wondering if that might move. That thing should have gotten going by now and I've read conflicting reports as to when that starts filming; some had this spring, others said fall. Now they're casting a separate actor for the angry green giant in addition to Ruffalo when that should have already been done quite a ways back.

[KRIM]

Huh? Ruffalo just gave an interview yesterday clearly stating he's playing the Hulk, following in the footsteps of Ferrigno.

[Jake Cassidy]

What are you talking about, specifically? The Avengers is coming out May 4, 2012 -- and it has a solid two weeks to itself. (Not to mention that Disney will get a full marketing blitz for their first Marvel film.) I doubt Battleship will pose a serious challenge, especially since Mi3 will crush it the week after.

Compared to TDKR and Superman, I'd say WB picked a good spot for both. The former will be the last big film of the summer, and Superman will rake in serious Christmas money like the first.

I was just asking when the Avengers was getting released, which you have answered. Thanks. :yay:

[Marvin]

december is the best time to release if you have a solid or hype machine film (see Avatar) but a death sentence if your film is a let down (see tron)

thing about dec is that that there is no competition during release or in the subsequent months unlike summer where you have windows and then micheael bay and then window and then will smith and so on. however summer is good because people go see movies inspite of themselves.

If superman is solid I would very much like to see it have legs.

[solidsnake86]

I think what some are forgetting about the winter release date besides avatar, of course, was how well sherlock holmes did and I think thats definitely why WB likes that release date. If superman can manage to be a good movie and have strong legs it will do even better than being lost in the summer which if you look at SR it had the unlucky fate of being close to pirates of the carribean.

[sf2]

People also forget that Superman: The Movie came out December 15, 1978 and did exceptionally well during that period.

Why are people questioning the film's Christmas 2012 slot? The LOTR trilogy, Avatar and Sherlock Holmes prove that you can have blockbuster films in the winter as well as the summer.
let's repeat the history then.

[mclay18]

If superman is solid I would very much like to see it have legs.

If WB markets the film properly, the Nolan involvement with Snyder directing should draw in a good amount of people opening weekend. Depending on how well audiences react, could have legs comparable to Sherlock Holmes. Hoping it'll have the word-of-mouth and weekend retention Avatar did when it opened December '09 is kidding themselves.

[matrix_ghost]

December can be just as crowded as the summer.
Right now there isn't much competition for Dec 2012 and if i were WB , i'd try to secure the IMAX screens for a long time in december.

[Kal-El.9859]

I'm ok with the December release...it's like a huge Christmas present for me!

[FilmNerdJamie]

Also curious as to where the Wolverine sequel stands. Fox was aiming for summer 2012, but that's getting stuffed (although a few more things will move around) and they already have Ridley Scott's Prometheus, Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter and the fourth Ice Age on docket for then.

Billington had suggested on Twitter possibly for November/December. Which is possible. But considering where that franchise stands right now (after two generally-unpopular installments), Bond 3 and Superman would wipe the floor against old Logan.

[Iron_Stark]

I agree, Spidey is going to have to build the fanbase back up again after Spidey 3 left a bad taste in people's mouths plus it has a other cast so it can't even play off of people's good memories of the franchise. I expect it to gross like 210 to 225mil total if people still give a s**t about 3D by the time it comes out. I expect Star Trek 2 to gross atleast as much as the first one did. (after Iron Man 2's disappointing numbers I'm not going to be so bold anymore)Unlike Iron Man 2, if Trek 2 is just as good/better I expect 280 to 310mil for it.

I perfer a Summer release date for Superman but I can see how it could thrive during the hollidays. It's going to have to do a great deal better than Holmes did domesticially though.

lmao, It's. Still. Spider-Man.

They could have Spider-Man jump rope for two hours and he'd still kick Star Treks ass.

Didn't you also predict Iron Man 2's dvd/blu ray sales weren't going to sell squat because of the apparent bad taste that it left in people's mouth, yet it ended up breaking IM 1's sales?

Oh and get over yourself, there are about 98% of movies coming out, including this Superman reboot, that will be hoping to have IM2's "disappointing numbers"

The Avengers...I don't know...still wondering if that might move. That thing should have gotten going by now and I've read conflicting reports as to when that starts filming; some had this spring, others said fall. Now they're casting a separate actor for the angry green giant in addition to Ruffalo when that should have already been done quite a ways back.

The Avengers aren't moving for anyone.

They start filming pretty soon. Ruffalo was cast last summer in the weekend of the San Diego Comic Con, and has been in constant contact with the director and RDJ. If that's not quite a ways back, then I don't know what is.

edit, misunderstood your post, the twitter guy that said he auditioned to play the cgi Hulk, no one has confirmed it, because Ruffalo just recently at the SAG awards confirmed, again, that he will be the cgi Hulk.

[Dark Knight]

Plus with WB's "cornering the market" with a release date of either Wednesday Dec 19th or Friday Dec 21st, it is setting this next Superman film to have 3 straight weekends of being #1 at the Box Office during the 2012 XMas Holiday and New Years break.

This film will NOT be Superman Returns.....only way to go is up for the Superman franchise after hitting rock bottom with Returns, so to speak.

Yeah, the December Holiday release date is not just a good time to release the film....it's a freakin GREAT time to release it IMO! :word:

:supes:

[Excel]

um yeah.

someone-pref. show or jamie-tell me w.b. arent really planning on opening supes and hobbit in the same month.

tell me thats not the current plan.

plz.

[Astrodust]

I'd say if you spread the 2 films 3 weeks apart it should be fine. But they can't consider that till they see how the production of The Hobbit progresses. But moving The Hobbit to January is a mistake as well. If they are going to move The Hobbit, it has to be March or later.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think that the Hobbit is going to be pushed to winter of 2013 and Superman will make his 2012 debut.

I disagree with the opening post in this thread though, Superman Returns did not disappoint because of Pirates. Superman Returns disappointed because the people at WB thought that people were as fond of the original Superman movie as they were Star Wars and they weren't. The series was never as beloved as Star Wars or Indy for that matter.

They didn't gage the situation accurately when it came to Superman, they should have been looking at the popular comicbook movies of the 2000's instead of some old ass movie that is more fondly remembered for Reeve's wonderful star making performance and silly plot-points than anything else. If the original Superman movies were as beloved as those afore mentioned classics the new one would have easily made 300mil, no matter how awful or mediocre it was.

I can't prove this because we are in a world where Superman Returns exists but I think that in 2006, if a modern full on reboot of Superman had come out 19 years after the last Reeve movie, it would have crushed Batman Begins gross (That movie was dealing with a recent hated flop), that it would have hit 300mil. Alas, now they have to start all over again, 200mil would ironically be a huge gross for a reboot after 7 years.

[KrypJonian]

^ Similarity, how great Superman is, how many comic book fans there are, and all these other things being argued aren't the issue at hand. LOTR is already an established, MAJORLY successful, and modernly known film franchise which has made unconscionable amounts of money and gathered a fan base to rival Superman's (to say the least). They ****ed up with Superman Returns because they made it a follow up to a franchise that has been dead for over 20 years. People don't know it and don't care about it... they want a modern take, a modern story, and a modern feel... SR failed to do that majorly. And lets keep in mind that it'll only be 7 yrs since SR came out when the reboot comes out. May seem like a long time but it'll still be in people's minds. Opening Superman up against The Hobbit would be an absolute suicide for the studio, plain and simple. I really think we'll be seeing Superman in 2013, probably in March 2013 to be exact.

Wow, try again...

I agree with how much money LOTR made, and how it brought the story into the public's mind, but do you honestly believe the Hobbit would be able to capture that same audience? Especially after how tired of the 3 hour fantasy movies everyone was after "Return of the King"?

Everyone knows how SR performed, and whether or not that had to do with Pirates 2 nobody really cares. It was weak.

Now WB isn't going to open two franchises at the same time to compete with themselves... There's all sorts of problems so far with the Hobbitt, but I'd gather they care more about Superman making a splash...

And according to the calendar, it will have been 6 years, stupid..

[KrypJonian]

I think that the Hobbit is going to be pushed to winter of 2013 and Superman will make his 2012 debut.

I disagree with the opening post in this thread though, Superman Returns did not disappoint because of Pirates. Superman Returns disappointed because the people at WB thought that people were as fond of the original Superman movie as they were Star Wars and they weren't. The series was never as beloved as Star Wars or Indy for that matter.

They didn't gage the situation accurately when it came to Superman, they should have been looking at the popular comicbook movies of the 2000's instead of some old ass movie that is more fondly remembered for Reeve's wonderful star making performance and silly plot-points than anything else. If the original Superman movies were as beloved as those afore mentioned classics the new one would have easily made 300mil, no matter how awful or mediocre it was.

I can't prove this because we are in a world where Superman Returns exists but I think that in 2006, if a modern full on reboot of Superman had come out 19 years after the last Reeve movie, it would have crushed Batman Begins gross (That movie was dealing with a recent hated flop), that it would have hit 300mil. Alas, now they have to start all over again, 200mil would ironically be a huge gross for a reboot after 7 years.

I disagree... I may be delusional, but I'm fairly certain SR would have made a sh** ton of money if Pirates hadn't have come the week after....

But to be fair, SR was not that strong, but the world would be different with a different release date...

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Superman Returns didn't even open as well as alot of people were predicting and Pirates 2 didn't come out that weekend. Superman Returns was screwed before Pirates 2 even came out so I don't know how Pirates hurt it. If anything it would have hurt Pirates.

Pirates 2 being the reason that Returns didn't put up Spider-Man numbers is a myth fanboys tell to make themselves feel better about it's far lower than expected boxoffice numbers.

[KrypJonian]

Superman Returns didn't even open as well as alot of people were predicting and Pirates 2 didn't come out that weekend. Superman Returns was screwed before Pirates 2 even came out so I don't know how Pirates hurt it. If anything it would have hurt Pirates.

Pirates 2 being the reason that Returns didn't put up Spider-Man numbers is a myth fanboys tell to make themselves feel better about it's far lower than expected boxoffice numbers.

SR had huge opening reciepts.... Pirates opening a week after took away from any residual BO reciepts cause it was just so damn huge....

And you are stupid to think otherwise....

[KrypJonian]

Superman Returns didn't even open as well as alot of people were predicting and Pirates 2 didn't come out that weekend. Superman Returns was screwed before Pirates 2 even came out so I don't know how Pirates hurt it. If anything it would have hurt Pirates.

Pirates 2 being the reason that Returns didn't put up Spider-Man numbers is a myth fanboys tell to make themselves feel better about it's far lower than expected boxoffice numbers.

Gah! Jeez! Just reading this again makes me wanna barf in frustration at how dumb you are... Blech....

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Uh we are talking about a film's boxoffice, there is no need to call me dumb, what are you 12 years old?

Anyway, SR did not open huge. Transformers 2 had a huge five day opening, Twilight: Eclipse had a huge five day opening, Spider-Man 2, had huge five day opening and one of the Harry Potter movies had a huge five day opening. Superman Returns was a disappointment from day one. It opened to decent enough numbers but not good enough at all, it didn't even hit 90mil in it's 5 and 1/3 opening week release. The fact that it was a Superman movie got it the decent/okay for a blockbuster five day start that it had but if the advertisements had actually worked the movie would have did atleast 110 in it's opening week and if it was so well recieved then it would have had better legs too.

It doesn't matter how much one loves or hates the film blaming Pirates 2 for it's low boxoffice is silly and has no bases in reality what-so-ever. Now I'm going to escape 2006arguements because I'm getting bored.

[Hunter Rider]

Gah! Jeez! Just reading this again makes me wanna barf in frustration at how dumb you are... Blech....

I'm giving you an on thread warning to knock off the insults, one and only as next time it will be an infraction. If you have a differing viewpoint make a counter pint post instead of resorting to that.

[KyleDW2]

1) Even if The Hobbit started filming right now, right this second, they wouldn't be done by next winter. There's just no way. Remember, they are making two huge three hour movies at the same time. Its the Lord of the Rings strategy. Film them all at once. And then they'd still have all the VFX work to do. So I think Superman will be safe and sound next December.

2) Even if they were to come out at the same time and one of them had to move, Superman would be the one pushed out of December. The Hobbit is seen as a Christmastime movie. Hell, it was my Christmas tradition for four years in a row. Watch the movie one year, get the extended edition for Christmas the next year. Ah, good times...

With Superman, however, and the superhero movie genre in general, its seen as a summer type of movie. So if WB were forced to rethink their strategy, I'd think they'd get Superman into the summer slot.

3) Even if, after all that, they were forced to open within the same month time frame, so long as Superman is good it shouldn't really matter. "Oh, but Pirates..." No. Wrong. Sorry. People always say that. Pirates hurt Superman. No, says I. Pirates did not hurt Superman. Superman helped Pirates. The poor quality of Superman Returns meant that there wasn't any other quality entertainment out...until Pirates, with its wacky protagonist and huge action set pieces and gallons and gallons of spectacle appeared. Pirates was nothing but pure, nonstop summer entertainment for two and a half hours. So why does nobody ever look at it the other way? Couldn't it be that the dour and dull quality of Superman Returns allowed the more fun movie to do better than it would with a more exciting movie released next to it?

But what if they did both have lots of action and CGI and spectacle and what have you? Well, remember summer of 2007. Spider-Man 3. Pirates 3. Shrek 3. All released around the same time. And they are still the three highest grossing movies of that year. Despite their somewhat dubious quality and reputations, they proved that three big huge movies can co-exist within the same month.

So really, just think of it this way. If Superman is good it should be fine, no matter what competition it is up against.

[FilmNerdJamie]

The reason we're even talking about a new Superman movie is because of the lawsuits and court rulings. The reboot has to be released by the end of next year, at the latest or WB will lose the rights. If anything, it could conceivably move up to say summer or Thanksgiving 2012. But that's doubtful.

The Hobbit, on the other hand, is a month and a half away from the start of its 18 month shoot, after literally years worth of delays. Factor in them filming with 3D cameras and all the effects-work to be done. Reaching next Christmas is not physically doable. It feels like all these announcements of returning LOTR cast members is to soften the blow for fans that it's going to have to wait another year.

[Dark Knight]

The logical move by WB's would be to just push The Hobbit Part 1 release date to Summer 2013.

Then Man Of Steel has the Dec 19th or 21st release date all to itself.

By releasing the Supes film then, it has a legit shot of having 3 #1 weekends in a row for the XMas Holiday and New Years break.

[ohmshalone]

I'm giving you an on thread warning to knock off the insults, one and only as next time it will be an infraction. If you have a differing viewpoint make a counter pint post instead of resorting to that.

I'm still amazed that people will talk like that on forums, knowing that they can be suspended/banned. :doh:

[Donut]

I would be more worried about Lindsay Lohan in this movie then The Hobbit

[Kal-El.9859]

well I can't stand Lohan or the Hobbit..soooo

[Tomar-Re]

Superman shouldn't worry about other films stealing it's thunder. You put out a good product people will go see the movie. Plain and simple.

[Kal-El.9859]

They should put LiLo in the Hobbit...jus' saying

[Dark Knight]

1) Even if The Hobbit started filming right now, right this second, they wouldn't be done by next winter. There's just no way. Remember, they are making two huge three hour movies at the same time. Its the Lord of the Rings strategy. Film them all at once. And then they'd still have all the VFX work to do. So I think Superman will be safe and sound next December.

2) Even if they were to come out at the same time and one of them had to move, Superman would be the one pushed out of December. The Hobbit is seen as a Christmastime movie. Hell, it was my Christmas tradition for four years in a row. Watch the movie one year, get the extended edition for Christmas the next year. Ah, good times...

With Superman, however, and the superhero movie genre in general, its seen as a summer type of movie. So if WB were forced to rethink their strategy, I'd think they'd get Superman into the summer slot.

3) Even if, after all that, they were forced to open within the same month time frame, so long as Superman is good it shouldn't really matter. "Oh, but Pirates..." No. Wrong. Sorry. People always say that. Pirates hurt Superman. No, says I. Pirates did not hurt Superman. Superman helped Pirates. The poor quality of Superman Returns meant that there wasn't any other quality entertainment out...until Pirates, with its wacky protagonist and huge action set pieces and gallons and gallons of spectacle appeared. Pirates was nothing but pure, nonstop summer entertainment for two and a half hours. So why does nobody ever look at it the other way? Couldn't it be that the dour and dull quality of Superman Returns allowed the more fun movie to do better than it would with a more exciting movie released next to it?

But what if they did both have lots of action and CGI and spectacle and what have you? Well, remember summer of 2007. Spider-Man 3. Pirates 3. Shrek 3. All released around the same time. And they are still the three highest grossing movies of that year. Despite their somewhat dubious quality and reputations, they proved that three big huge movies can co-exist within the same month.

So really, just think of it this way. If Superman is good it should be fine, no matter what competition it is up against.





Agreed. It will be fine.....but the logical move for WB's since they don't have a set Summer tent pole for 2013 is to move Hobbit Part 1 to a June release date and then they can release Part 2 in December 2013.

Leave Man of Steel all by itself for the December Holiday and New Years break release dates and watch it kick butt for 3 weekends in a row.....at least!

[FilmNerdJamie]

Not directly related, but it occurred to me.

Although I don't think Paramount will allow this to happen (They need it too badly after losing The Avengers, and thus why they suddenly greenlit that G.I. Joe sequel), but if need be Star Trek 2 could go towards Christmas 2012 as opposed to at the very end of June that year. Where it would duke it out against Superman: The Man of Steel instead of The Amazing Spider-Man.

In both outcomes of the either/or case, Trek 2 would slaughter its competition.

[Excel]

Recently ZS stated that he was unsure if the film would make its Dec 2012 release date. Further evidence may be the lack of an actual date; with WB continuing to simply say "December".

That said, theyre awfully far along in the casting process to not being going for that date. Theyre supposably shooting in Illinois starting July, which would make winter 2012 right on schedule.

My question is...whats the hold up? WB have yet to announce the hobbit, which is also supposably December 2012 release. I find it odd they have yet to announce either...thoughts?

[Zack Snyder]

Supposedly owns Supposably.

Anyhoo,

I think just stating its out by Christmas is good enough for me :up:

[matrix_ghost]

I've posted many times that WB won't release SUpes and Hobbit in the same month ( X-mas 2012). And i've also said that Hobbit won''t be released in X-Mas 2012.
Now though i'll have to eat my words :
PJ's own words :
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=76341

However, while it's predicted that there may be over 10,000 screens capable of projecting THE HOBBIT at 48 fps by our release date in Dec, 2012, we don’t yet know what the reality will be.


Seems Hobbit is set for Dec 2012.
Supes won't be released Christmas 2012.



However WB could potentially release the movie in Nov 2012 seeing as their isn't any WB released in that month.

[RoughNTumble]

give us thanksgiving

over even late summer

[matrix_ghost]

give us thanksgiving

over even late summer

LAte summer might be pushing it in terms of post.
Plus in WB eyes , TDKR is the big summer movie.

[Zack Snyder]

I think it will stay in x-mas. I don't see THE HOBBIT taking away any of Superman's potential viewers either.

[matrix_ghost]

I think it will stay in x-mas. I don't see THE HOBBIT taking away any of Superman's potential viewers either.

In the states , mayeb.
International markets ? Forget is. Hobbit is going to crush Superman.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Dude, you already opened a thread about the exact same subject.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=342930

[Showtime]

Not to mention we have two other release date threads...

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=347616

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=262254

It would be helpful the staff if you guys could check to see if there is a related thread before opening a new one.

Merge it up.

[Showtime]

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