2007 NCAA Football Thread

[Fran]

Hello fellow college football fanatics!

Thanks to Dew, I have been allowed to start a new thread. The '06 season is completely over.

To summarize last season:
-Boise State finishes 13-0, still doesn't play for National Title amongst many angry fans of the NCAA.
-Michigan State suffers another crappy season, but gets hope in the form of Mark Dantonio.
-Florida finishes with a BCS title win against the Ohio State Buckeyes, owning Troy Smith in the process.
-Western Michigan, down 24-0 against Cincy, comes back to tie it 24-24, only to lose 27-24. Valiant effort, Broncos!

Let the discussion begin!

Interesting thing I heard on ESPN.. Mark May believes the Gators have a 70% chance to repeat... but then again, it's the BCS.

[Ben Urich]

Mike D'Antoni?
Doesn't he coach the Phoenix Suns of the NBA? :huh:

[Fran]

Mike D'Antoni?
Doesn't he coach the Phoenix Suns of the NBA? :huh:

I never said that :o :o

[Ben Urich]

Damn me and my reluctance to quote! :cmad:

[Fran]

Discuss teh college footballs! :cmad:

Go Spartans. :up:

[Ben Urich]

UCF! :cmad::up:

[Fran]

Call a Spartans national title. Then quote it.

[Byrd Man]

USC!

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6480/happycockyum2.gif

[Ben Urich]

Call a Spartans national title. Then quote it.

Benstradamos? :huh:

[Tangled Web]

USC!

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6480/happycockyum2.gif

That looks like a bouncing phallace.


Go Bruins!

[Ben Urich]

That looks like a bouncing phallace.


Go Bruins!

Yeah, it's like a dildo with eyes. :huh:

[Immortalfire]

Goooooooooooo DAWGS! Sic 'em! WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF!!!!

[Ebil Gig]

Go Gators!! :D

[Fran]

GO MICHIGAN STATE SPARTANS. DON'T SUCK IT UP AGAIN.

[Byrd Man]

Yeah, it's like a dildo with eyes. :huh:

Well, it is a Gamecock.

[Fran]

You should have said "SCAR" instead of "USC" dude. :dry:

[Byrd Man]

You should have said "SCAR" instead of "USC" dude. :dry:

University of South Carolina founded in 1801
University of Southern California founded in 1880

We were first.

[Ben Urich]

Well, it is a Gamecock.

I thought USC was the Trojans. :huh:

[Immortalfire]

University of South Carolina founded in 1801
University of Southern California founded in 1880

We were first. Owned :up:

[Ben Urich]

For what it's worth, Southern California owns the domain www.usc.edu, whereas South Carolina's domain www.sc.edu

[Byrd Man]

For what it's worth, Southern Carolina owns the domain www.usc.edu (http://www.usc.edu), whereas South Carolina's domain www.sc.edu (http://www.sc.edu)

Then they were first, Cyberly speaking, but we were first, historically speaking. Just goes to show you that ***** did indeed come before trojans

[Immortalfire]

For what it's worth, Southern Carolina owns the domain www.usc.edu, whereas South Carolina's domain www.sc.edu Southern Carolina...*snort* :woot:

[Tangled Web]

This is an interesting read about a new weight lifting technique being used at UCLA this off season.

http://www.bruingold.com/forums/index.php?az=show_topic&forum=108&topic_id=33032&mode=full&page=

This poll seems kind of eh...
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=2725188

So USC should be #1 because Booty had a 381 yard passing game against Michigan? How many of those yards were to Steve Smith and Dwayne Jarrett? Michigan is big and slow. Look at how USC did against that small quick defense across town.

And UCLA shouldn't be in the top 20. Maybe 22. But hey, I'll take it.

This may be the best team we've had in years. If Ben Olson starts this WILL be the best team we've had in years.

BCS or bust.

[Fran]

This isn't about weightlifting or techniques, this is about football!

[Fran]

Actually, techniques may come into play.

No weightlifting though!

[Tangled Web]

A moment in silence for Those in the football world who have lost their lives.

Marcus Cassel
http://usera.imagecave.com/wonderfalls/UCLA/web.sp.football.jpg

Mario Danelo
http://usera.imagecave.com/wonderfalls/UCLA/mariodanelo.jpg

Bo schembechler
http://www.cbc.ca/cp/football/061117/f111741A.jpg

Gerald Ford
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/051213/051213_ford_vmed_10a.widec.jpg

Darrent Willaims
http://www.lastampa.it/sport/cmssezioni/footballamericano/200612images/williams01g.jpg

Brian Pata
http://www.jesuslist.com/blog/images/bryan-pata.jpeg

[Addendum]

Go Blue

[Fran]

Nope.

[Tangled Web]

Marlin McKeever
http://www.footballcardgallery.com/pics/1965-Philadelphia/91.jpg

Jack Snow
http://www2.irishsports.com/stories/subscription/2006/02/05/Snow.jpeg

If anyone has someone they'd like to add, feel free.

[Addendum]

It's all good as long as Michican and the Spartans beat the damned buckeyes.

Cool?

[Fran]

Now we're cool :up:

[Addendum]

My mom grew up in Michigan. She pissed off both Michigan and Spartan fans because she liked both schools. She had friends who went to both and refused to take one over the other.

But her brothers are all Michigan fans, except one of them who is a Texas fan. They got to me with Michigan football, but my dad got me with the Cubs and Bears

[Fran]

My stepdad is MSU alumni, so that's my story. :hyper:

[Darth Elektra]

Dang it!

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=Akc1vJpCJEeA4kgwr17nf0AcvrYF?slug=ap-clemson-gaddis&prov=ap&type=lgns

We needed his expierence... :( I can't wait to see him in the NFL :)

[Byrd Man]

Dang it!

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=Akc1vJpCJEeA4kgwr17nf0AcvrYF?slug=ap-clemson-gaddis&prov=ap&type=lgns

We needed his expierence... :( I can't wait to see him in the NFL :)

I feel your pain.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=Ah0ft.4uPOIlGsekE4ZeELjh1LYF?slug=ap-scarolina-rice&prov=ap&type=lgns

I also can't wait to see what he can do at the next level.

[Fran]

Da Spartans.

Isn't USC gonna be pre-ranked #1 to start the year :huh:

[Mister J]

More than likely.

It's already starting.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=2725188

[Fran]

1. USC
2. Florida
3. Michigan
4. WVU
5. Wisconsin
6. Oklahoma
7. Virginia Tech
8. Texas
9. OSU
10. Cal
11. Arkansas
12. Nebraska
13. LSU
14. Penn State
15. Texas A&M
16. Auburn
17. Georgia
18. TCU
19. Tennessee
20. UCLA
21. Rutgers
22. Wake Forest
23. Boise State
24. Alabama
25. Louisville

[StorminNorman]

UCF! :cmad::up:

I will be at every Golden Knight game next year :up:

[StorminNorman]

1. USC
2. Florida
3. Michigan
4. WVU
5. Wisconsin
6. Oklahoma
7. Virginia Tech
8. Texas
9. OSU
10. Cal
11. Arkansas
12. Nebraska
13. LSU
14. Penn State
15. Texas A&M
16. Auburn
17. Georgia
18. TCU
19. Tennessee
20. UCLA
21. Rutgers
22. Wake Forest
23. Boise State
24. Alabama
25. Louisville

No reason Cal should be near that high.

[Fran]

I agree, Michigan State should be in there :up:

[Brian2887]

WVU! Woot Woot!

Slaton and White are the most electrifying players is college football.

[Darth Elektra]

I feel your pain.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=Ah0ft.4uPOIlGsekE4ZeELjh1LYF?slug=ap-scarolina-rice&prov=ap&type=lgns

I also can't wait to see what he can do at the next level.


Yeah... hearing that made, tigers around the world smile.

[Darth Elektra]

Here's how recruiting is panning out so far...

1 Texas
2 Tennessee
3 LSU
4 Florida
5 Southern Cal
6 Notre Dame
7 Nebraska
8 Georgia
9 South Carolina
10 Michigan
11 Illinois
12 Auburn
13 Georgia Tech
14 Oregon
15 Virginia
16 Ole Miss
17 Ohio State
18 Clemson
19 Virginia Tech
20 California
21 Oklahoma
22 Colorado
23 Alabama
24 Penn State
25 Iowa

Per rivals.com

[Mister J]

Blimey. Miami's not even on there. There's still a chance to make a jump though. A few guys on still on the fence. It'd be fantastic if Noel Devine would come through. He's barely on the Canes' radar anymore.

[NewYorkSpider]

1. USC
2. Florida
3. Michigan
4. WVU
5. Wisconsin
6. Oklahoma
7. Virginia Tech
8. Texas
9. OSU
10. Cal
11. Arkansas
12. Nebraska
13. LSU
14. Penn State
15. Texas A&M
16. Auburn
17. Georgia
18. TCU
19. Tennessee
20. UCLA
21. Rutgers
22. Wake Forest
23. Boise State
24. Alabama
25. Louisville

Where in the heck is Notre Dame?:cmad:

[Caliber]

Go Gators!! :D

Florida was given the title shot when it should have been USC playing Ohio State. I hope USC wins the title next year.

[Caliber]

Where in the heck is Notre Dame?:cmad:

Nowhere so they can cry about the 9 bowl games in row they've lost.

[Mee]

Florida was given the title shot when it should have been USC playing Ohio State. I hope USC wins the title next year.
Pfft. :down

Florida earned it. They definately showed that in the game too. :arm chomp:

[NewYorkSpider]

Pfft. :down

Florida earned it. They definately showed that in the game too. :arm chomp:

Florida definately earned it. If USC was in the championship game though, i think Ohio State would have one by a slim margin.

[Caliber]

Pfft. :down

Florida earned it. They definately showed that in the game too. :arm chomp:

They earned nothing. Its Boise State who should have been in that game but I guess going 13-0 means nothing.

[Tangled Web]

They earned nothing. Its Boise State who should have been in that game but I guess going 13-0 means nothing.

Oh, you mean going 13-0 against teams like San Jose State or Nevada?

[Milkman95]

Boise State DID NOT belong in the BCS Championship Game, sorry. They can pull off an upset now and then, but hanging with the big dogs week in and week out wouldn't happen.

Florida earned it. Top 3 Teams in 2007:

1. USC
2. FLORIDA
3. MICHIGAN

Notre Dame isn't even ranked in the TOP 25.......Awesome.

[Fran]

SI's top 10 are a little too off compared to ESPN's.

[Kaleb]

someone on espn said that Urban Meyer whinned his way into the national title.

[Fran]

That's what my buddy (NOTE: A diehard U-M fan) says.

SI had a little spotlight about it. They had dates where he'd promote his team and complain about getting in.

I sort of believe it. But hell, Michigan had its chance.

And this year they're gonna be killer again.

[Mister J]

He did whine if you wanna get down to it. I saw the SI highlight of some of his quotes. In all reality, I don't blame him. Voters are susceptible to that type of thing. He felt like his team had a strong case and he knows the system is flawed, so he did what he could to get a favorable result.

He didn't make anybody do anything, just called attention to the matter. There was no harm in it and if it actually helped a few voters go the other way and vote for Florida, then it was well worth it. It's no different from what Mack Brown did to get Texas into the Rose Bowl in 2004. The articles that were written about Lloyd Carr afterwards, touting his 'integrity' for not politicking were nice and all, but at the end of the day you're trying to get to the title game. The BCS has screwed teams over in the past and it'll screw some over in the future. Meyer did what he could to try to keep his team's name off that list. I can't find fault in that.

[Immortalfire]

I always get a laugh from the "Who earned/deserves" chat, lol :whatever:

[Fran]

To be honest, I would have wanted to see the rematch. I mean, this is one of, if not the most hated rivalry in College Sports.

Playing for the BCS title would just add more fuel to the fire, and many more people would have watched it (except for Floridians and some other Southerners possibly).

[Darth Elektra]

Florida definately earned it. If USC was in the championship game though, i think Ohio State would have one by a slim margin.

The way Ohio St. played that night... and team in the top 10 would have beaten them.

[Darth Elektra]

They earned nothing. Its Boise State who should have been in that game but I guess going 13-0 means nothing.

Lol, you funny.

[StorminNorman]

Boise State DID NOT belong in the BCS Championship Game, sorry. They can pull off an upset now and then, but hanging with the big dogs week in and week out wouldn't happen.

Florida earned it. Top 3 Teams in 2007:

1. USC
2. FLORIDA
3. MICHIGAN

Notre Dame isn't even ranked in the TOP 25.......Awesome.

Top 3 Teams in 2007? Florida lost its QB and is trying to replace him with a RB.

[StorminNorman]

I always get a laugh from the "Who earned/deserves" chat, lol :whatever:

All that matters is that right now Georgia has a good shot at being on top of the SEC come December 2007.

- Stafford ended the season one of the best QB's in the SEC.

- Most of our Defense (especially our Secondary) returns.

- Neil Calloway is gone, hopefully his underperforming OL performances are too.

- Number 14 is calling our plays.

- Mark Richt is still our coach.

- Thomas Brown, Kregg Lumpkin, Knoweshon Morenson in our back field - along with Brandon Southerland.

- Martrez Milner is no longer on the roster.

[Immortalfire]

Top 3 Teams in 2007? Florida lost its QB and is trying to replace him with a RB. Tim Tebow...the white Michael Vick :ninja:


Though, that might be stretching it. At least Vick tries to get the ball to someone else. Timmy just takes the snap and runs.

[Darth Elektra]

Boise State DID NOT belong in the BCS Championship Game, sorry. They can pull off an upset now and then, but hanging with the big dogs week in and week out wouldn't happen.

Florida earned it. Top 3 Teams in 2007:

1. USC
2. FLORIDA
3. MICHIGAN

Notre Dame isn't even ranked in the TOP 25.......Awesome.


Look for USC and LSU to be the dominant teams.

[Immortalfire]

- Stafford '09 Heisman winner

[StorminNorman]

Tim Tebow...the white Michael Vick :ninja:


Though, that might be stretching it. At least Vick tries to get the ball to someone else. Timmy just takes the snap and runs.

Its funny when you are watching the game with friends and as soon as Tebow comes in everyone can shout out the play (run left).

Damn did we get lucky with Stafford over Tebow or Mistang

[Darth Elektra]

Its funny when you are watching the game with friends and as soon as Tebow comes in everyone can shout out the play (run left).

And whats funny is everyone knew it, but no one could stop it.

[Darth Elektra]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=2725188

Top 25 breakdown, it was a interesting read.

[Mister J]

More than likely.

It's already starting.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=2725188

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=2725188

Top 25 breakdown, it was a interesting read.
:cmad:

:ninja:

:trans:

[StorminNorman]

And whats funny is everyone knew it, but no one could stop it.

Georgia did :)

[Tangled Web]

How does Nebraska look next year?

Oh and Notre Dame looks like crap but it should still be a hot ticket when they come to Pasedena this year.

[Darth Elektra]

Georgia did :)

Did they? That was one of the few big SEC games I didnt get to see.

[Ben Urich]

UCF = 2007 BCS Champions. :up:

[DarthRekal]

1. USC Trojans (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=30)
http://sportsmed.starwave.com/i/teamlogos/ncaa/sml/trans/30.gif (http://college.espn.go.com/ncaa/clubhouse?collegeId=30) Why: Quarterback John David Booty (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=145168)'s stellar performance (391 passing yards, four touchdowns) in the Trojans' 32-18 win over Michigan in the Rose Bowl presented by Citi showed he's among the best passers in the country. The Trojans played a boatload of underclassmen this season; if junior defensive end Lawrence Jackson and defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis return, they could have 10 starters back on defense.




WORD!:woot:

[Tangled Web]

1. USC Trojans (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=30)
http://sportsmed.starwave.com/i/teamlogos/ncaa/sml/trans/30.gif (http://college.espn.go.com/ncaa/clubhouse?collegeId=30) Why: Quarterback John David Booty (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=145168)'s stellar performance (391 passing yards, four touchdowns) in the Trojans' 32-18 win over Michigan in the Rose Bowl presented by Citi showed he's among the best passers in the country. The Trojans played a boatload of underclassmen this season; if junior defensive end Lawrence Jackson and defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis return, they could have 10 starters back on defense.




WORD!:woot:

Neh. How many of those yards were passes to Steve Smith and Dwayne Jarrett? :D

[DarthRekal]

good point...im not really a BOOTY fan....

but i think we will be okay..i know are d will be hella good... and the RB's should be more seasoned now....

[Ben Urich]

I love it when people use "seasoned" to mean "experienced."
When I think "seasoned," I think "spicy" You know, like seasoning.

[Darth Elektra]

Mister J...

Shannon narrows list on offense.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/colleges/university_of_miami/16455545.htm?source=rss&channel=miamiherald_university_of_miami

[Mister J]

Thanx, DE. :up:

I haven't followed the OC hunt since Koetter decided to go to Jacksonville. I'm most familiar with Sumlin from Oklahoma than the other guys.

[Cmill216]

UCF = 2007 BCS Champions. :up:

Kyle Israel = 2007 Heisman Trophy Winner :cmad:

[Darth Elektra]

I love it when people use "seasoned" to mean "experienced."
When I think "seasoned," I think "spicy" You know, like seasoning.

You know how hard experienced is to spell. :cwink:

[DarthRekal]

You know how hard experienced is to spell. :cwink:
is it i before e or e before i:oldrazz:

[Tangled Web]

Hey, will you look at that?

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=166730

UCLA at #6?

That must be without taking coaching into consideration.

[Darth Elektra]

is it i before e or e before i:oldrazz:

lol.

[Mister J]

Hey, will you look at that?

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=166730

UCLA at #6?

That must be without taking coaching into consideration.
Florida State is #8, largely predicated on the new arrival of a new O-line coach who "will light an emotional fire within the entire team". There was a lot more wrong with Florida State than the offensive line. What a bunch of crap.

[Darth Elektra]

Hey, will you look at that?

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=166730

UCLA at #6?

That must be without taking coaching into consideration.

wow... three Pac 10 schools in the top 10.

[Tangled Web]

wow... three Pac 10 schools in the top 10.

That guy is nuts. UCLA should be like #20. Cal should be around UCLA. USC should be like #5.

[DarthRekal]

thats two polls for USC.. thats gonna jinx us watch

[Darth Elektra]

thats two polls for USC.. thats gonna jinx us watch

lol... its never jinxed Pete Carroll and the Trojans before.

[DarthRekal]

lol... its never jinxed Pete Carroll and the Trojans before.
well lets hope so:trans:

[Darth Elektra]

Former USC kicker Danelo remembered for love
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2729498

[Ben Urich]

Kyle Israel = 2007 Heisman Trophy Winner :cmad:

Yer damn right!
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2005-12/20792889.jpg

Florida State is #8, largely predicated on the new arrival of a new O-line coach who "will light an emotional fire within the entire team". There was a lot more wrong with Florida State than the offensive line. What a bunch of crap.

Yeah, because we all know that the offensive line is the heart and soul of every football team. :dry:

[Cmill216]

Yer damn right!
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2005-12/20792889.jpg


Ironically that's the only picture of him online. :huh:

[DarthRekal]

Former USC kicker Danelo remembered for love
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2729498

yeah i know someone in san pedro whose school was involved( ithink mario went there) with the funeral..


hey ben can you make me an avy(not now for the start of next season)


of mario danelo... so i can sport it next season?

[Ben Urich]

Ironically that's the only picture of him online. :huh:

Seriously. :csad:

[Tangled Web]

You know, I'm wondering. How did he fall off a cliff? I'm waiting on the toxicology.

[DarthRekal]

You know, I'm wondering. How did he fall off a cliff? I'm waiting on the toxicology.

they stil havent said... they think its either suicide or an accident no foul play they said...

thing is i highly doubt he was alone...

big mystery hope its solved soon helps with closure

[ShadowBoxing]

edit: wrong Football thread :rolleyes: at self.

[Darth Elektra]

edit: wrong Football thread :rolleyes: at self.

lol, I did the same thing.

[Tangled Web]

they stil havent said... they think its either suicide or an accident no foul play they said...

thing is i highly doubt he was alone...

big mystery hope its solved soon helps with closure

It had to have been a drunken accident. I've heard of kids standing on the cliff and letting the wind keep them up until a gust blows the other way and sends them to death, but I don't think he'd be that dumb to try that.

[Darth Elektra]

The Hula Bowl:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2731520

Gailey to have second interview with Dolphins:
http://www.ajc.com/services/content/...svc=7&cxcat=21

[Darth Elektra]

Adrian Peterson enters the NFL draft:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2732041

[Mister J]

Buckeyes Lose Ginn and Pittman to NFL Draft (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2731753)

OK, so Smith and Laurinaitis graduate and Gonzalez, Pittman and Ginn all leave early. With Henne, Hart and Manningham coming back, even with losing Branch on Burgess on D, I will lose my mind if Michigan doesn't kick Ohio State's ass in the Big House next year.

[Fran]

I sure as hell hope OSU gets the **** beat outta them :up:

You know... next year's bowl games, a pool could be made here... !

[Mister J]

You know... next year's bowl games, a pool could be made here... !
You're really enjoying this whole thing, aren't you? :woot:

[Tangled Web]

It looks like this is Michigan's year to beat OSU.

[Fran]

You're really enjoying this whole thing, aren't you? :woot:

Yeah I am. It makes this place more enjoyable :up:

DarthRekal wants an NBA one. I'm gonna do it, but I'm not sure how to formulate it. Any ideas?

[Darth Elektra]

You know... next year's bowl games, a pool could be made here... !

Deffinetly need to set that up this year...

So is anyone suprised by Peterson's desicion? Im kindaof suprised he left... He was going to be a shoo-in(is that even a word?) for the Heisman. However no doubt he'll go as the first running back in the draft, probably in the top 5 spots.

[Mister J]

Deffinetly need to set that up this year...
Did we ever figure out who had the best record in predicting this past bowl season? Odin knows it wasn't me.
So is anyone suprised by Peterson's desicion? Im kindaof suprised he left... He was going to be a shoo-in(is that even a word?) for the Heisman. However no doubt he'll go as the first running back in the draft, probably in the top 5 spots.
Actually, I was surprised it took him as long as he did. He's expected to be a top 5 pick and that injury had to scare him a bit. College is a good time, but
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7741/moneytalksye5.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[Darth Elektra]

Guys it looks like (rumors) Clemson will play Florida ST on labor day... We've won the last 2... but this would suck... :(

[Mister J]

That does suck. Miami's had them there for the last 2 years and they thankfully moved it. I like a couple of 'warm-up' games before you get into some real competition. There's too much riding on losing a game to have your team go up against another top program before they've had a chance to get some field time.

[Tangled Web]

I hate the idea of starting off the season with a conference game. We have @ Stanford as the first game.

[Darth Elektra]

That does suck. Miami's had them there for the last 2 years and they thankfully moved it. I like a couple of 'warm-up' games before you get into some real competition. There's too much riding on losing a game to have your team go up against another top program before they've had a chance to get some field time.

I want the game at the end of October.

[Darth Elektra]

Jim Donnan on the new clock rules:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?id=2731820

[Darth Elektra]

Mitch Mustain makes decision to leave Razorbacks

http://5newsonline.com/Global/story.asp?S=5946776

[Cmill216]

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/scorecard/cfootballnews.asp?articleID=188825

South Florida freshman running back collapses during team workout and passes away. Tough tough news.

[Fran]

Wow, that's sad to hear :csad:

[Darth Elektra]

Bruins Fire offensive Cord.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16692294/

[Mister J]

Georgia Congressman Opposes Pro-Gators Resolution (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2735433)
Congressman Jack Kingston (R-Ga.) rarely goes against GOP opinion in key votes on Capitol Hill. But on Tuesday, the eight-term Congressman really found himself in the minority.

Kingston, who has represented District 1 in southeast Georgia since 1993, was the only member of Congress to oppose House Resolution 39, which commended "the University of Florida Gators for their victory in the 2006 Bowl Championship Series (BCS) and for winning the national college football championship."

His reason? Kingston grew up in Athens, Ga., home of the University of Georgia, his alma mater and one of the Gators' fiercest rivals. Kingston still lives in Savannah, Ga., and flies to Washington weekly.

"Any time you can see Ohio State lose, it's a good day," said Kingston, who also attended Michigan State for two years. "However, there's just so far you can go. The Bulldog tendency in me hit and I had to vote no in a good, friendly rivalry."

The House bill passed by a vote of 414-1. Eight other congressmen from Georgia voted yes to the proposal, two voted present and two others didn't vote at all. The bill was sponsored by Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) and 19 other representatives from Florida.

The Gators defeated unbeaten and then-No. 1 Ohio State 41-14 in the BCS title game Jan. 8 in Glendale, Ariz., to win the school's second national championship in football. The Gators also won a national championship in men's basketball last season, becoming the first Division I-A school to hold both titles concurrently.

"I supported Florida in the game and wanted them to win and win big," Kingston told ESPN.com Thursday. "I'm obviously going to be partial to the SEC."

Such bills typically pass unanimously in Congress. For example, House Resolution 43, a bill that commended "the Boise State University Broncos football team for winning the 2007 Fiesta Bowl and completing an undefeated season," passed by a vote of 415-0 on Tuesday.
Hilarious. Reminds me of ESPN's 'Never Graduate' series of commercials. I love college sports. :D

[Cmill216]

Bruins Fire offensive Cord.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16692294/

Damn. They dropped 13 PPG from '05? Ouchies.

[Tangled Web]

Svoboda ran a boring offense, but it's hard to see any coordinator being productive under Dorrell's West Coast Offense.

[X-Ray]

Hey, will you look at that?

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=166730

UCLA at #6?

That must be without taking coaching into consideration.

Here's another pre-season poll to look at. (http://cfn.scout.com/2/609740.html)

And yes. They also have USC as the #1 team. With UCLA at #9.

[Darth Elektra]

Clemson vs. Florida State on Labor Day Night

http://tigernet.com/view/story.do?id=6446

[Tangled Web]

Tom Cable may come back to UCLA. This is it. Do or die for Dorrell. If we get Cable back, there are no excuses.

[Tangled Web]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/01/19/cubs.samardzija/

Hmmm...Nice to have options Jeff.

[slipknotrocks]

Clemson vs. Florida State on Labor Day Night

http://tigernet.com/view/story.do?id=6446

Sweet, gives us something to watch on Labor Day.

[Mister J]

Nix Leaving Georgia Tech To Run Miami's Offense (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2736032)

Hmm. Georgia Tech's offense hasn't struck me as particularly innovative or badass, but having Reggie Ball under center will do that. I trust Randy, so I'm guessing this is a good thing.

[Darth Elektra]

Nix Leaving Georgia Tech To Run Miami's Offense (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2736032)

Hmm. Georgia Tech's offense hasn't struck me as particularly innovative or badass, but having Reggie Ball under center will do that. I trust Randy, so I'm guessing this is a good thing.

hmmm... Yeah, Gtech's offense has never been great.

But Gtech will be hard to beat next year.

[StorminNorman]

Jack Kingston For PRESIDENT Goddamn it!

[Mister J]

USC O-Coordinator Kiffin To Be Raiders Next Coach (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2739645)

[Byrd Man]

Please god, as a Radiers fan. Let him do something positive.

[Darth Elektra]

USC O-Coordinator Kiffin To Be Raiders Next Coach (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2739645)

Lane Kiffin is a good coach... :up:

[Cmill216]

The son of Monte? He cool with me. :up:

[StorminNorman]

Forget everything that has happened in the past - the hiring of a COLLEGE Offensive Coordinator as your head coach is pathetic. A new low for Al Davis.

[Darth Elektra]

A week to go before Signing Day...

1. Florida
2. Tennessee
3. Texas
4. Notre Dame
5. LSU
6. South Carolina
7. Southern California
8. Georgia
9. Auburn
10. Nebraski
11. Oregon
12. Illinois
13. Ohio ST.
14. Georgia Tech
15. Clemson
16. Alabama
17. Michigan
18. Oklohoma
19. Ole Miss
20. Virginia
21. Pittsburg
22. Penn ST
23. Maimia Fl
24. Cal
25. Virgina Tech.

Per Rivals.com
http://rivals100.rivals.com/teamrank.asp?SID=1014

[Byrd Man]

A week to go before Signing Day...


6. South Carolina


Per Rivals.com
http://rivals100.rivals.com/teamrank.asp?SID=1014

:wow: Way to go Steve-O.

[Darth Elektra]

:wow: Way to go Steve-O.

You may want to take a look at this:
SC greatest class...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/cory_mccartney/01/30/sc.recruiting/index.html

[Byrd Man]

Oh ****! I don't pay attention to recruiting until NSD, but they've got one hell of a class. I know it could all be for crap, but hopefully they can compete in SEC play in the coming years.

[StorminNorman]

8? Not as good as 4- but I can dig it :up:

[Mister J]

The Canes scored a big commitment today from Robert Marve (QB), Florida's Mr. Football. Got some top notch receivers on the line too. :up:

[slipknotrocks]

Oh ****! I don't pay attention to recruiting until NSD, but they've got one hell of a class. I know it could all be for crap, but hopefully they can compete in SEC play in the coming years.

Yeah, Spurrier is doing pretty good. Should be intresting to see what happens now that Spurrier has the talent he needs.

[Darth Elektra]

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/2510/sp2007acccoachesfn8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Immortalfire]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/immortalfire/image001.jpg

[Byrd Man]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/immortalfire/image001.jpg

Lol. Where did you get those from? A buddy of mine from a Carolina Board made the SEC ones.

[Immortalfire]

Lol. Where did you get those from? The UGA sports blog, a few months back. http://georgiasports.blogspot.com/

You can tell it's not new, Schula is still on it..lol

[slipknotrocks]

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/2510/sp2007acccoachesfn8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/immortalfire/image001.jpg

lol, i love those.

especially Ralph 'The Fridge', Tommy Bowden and Steve Spurrier.

[Byrd Man]

Why does Butch Davis look a stoner?

[Immortalfire]

I'd look funnier if Bowden had a cane, and more wrinkles. lol

[Darth Elektra]

This is deffinetly differant:

The Clemson Tigers picked up a verbal commitment from the son of Georgia head coach Mark Richt:
http://clemson.scout.com/2/615299.html

[Immortalfire]

This is deffinetly differant:

The Clemson Tigers picked up a verbal commitment from the son of Georgia head coach Mark Richt:
http://clemson.scout.com/2/615299.html http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/immortalfire/vadernooo.jpg

[Byrd Man]

I don't blame him. If my father were a football coach there is no way in hell I would play for him and there is no way in hell he would let me play for him.

[Immortalfire]

I just love posting that Vader Noooooo pic, is all. lol :hyper:


Pete Maravich played for father. He worked him, a lot..and it obviously paid off. But it did strain them a bit.

[Byrd Man]

I just love posting that Vader Noooooo pic, is all. lol :hyper:


Pete Maravich played for father. He worked him, a lot..and it obviously paid off. But it did strain them a bit.

That's why Pete had a heart attack and died at the ripe old age of 40.

[slipknotrocks]

Since Ritch is only a junior, we dont know much about him. Should be intresting to see him develope over this fall.

[Byrd Man]

Since today is National Signing Day....Here are the recruiting ranks as of last night.



Pre-signing day Top 25
1. Florida

2. USC

3. Texas

4. South Carolina

5. Notre Dame

6. Tennessee

7. LSU

8. Auburn

9. Georgia

10. Illinois

11. Georgia Tech

12. Michigan

13. Virginia Tech

14. Texas A&M

15. Clemson

16. Miami (Fla.)

17. Pittsburgh

18. Alabama

19. Ohio State

20. Penn State

21. North Carolina

22. Nebraska

23. Iowa

24. Oregon

25. Mississippi


Not one, not two, but six SEC teams in the top ten.

[Immortalfire]

The best.

[Darth Elektra]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2756629

Coach Karl Dorrell, gets extension.

[Darth Elektra]

Spurrier, Game***** expected to sign top-10 class:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=2757053

[Immortalfire]

Georgia could pull a surprise or two..
http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/sports/colleges/university_of_georgia/16639593.htm?source=rss&channel=macon_university_of_georgia

[Darth Elektra]

SEC powers at it again -- in recruiting:

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ap-secrecruiting&prov=ap&type=lgns

[Cmill216]

UCF in the top 50? Interesting.

[Byrd Man]

I know recruitng don't mean ****, but damn.

[StorminNorman]

UCF in the top 50? Interesting.

I guess the scouts havn't heard I am not playing football anymore. :up:

[Superman79]

Go Huskers!!!!

[Darth Elektra]

Lol... Florida and USC are loading up...

Florida got 2 of the top 6 QB's in the nation.

USC got 3 RB's this year including the #1 running back according to Rivals.

[StorminNorman]

Lol... Florida and USC are loading up...

Florida got 2 of the top 6 QB's in the nation.

USC got 3 RB's this year including the #1 running back according to Rivals.

Georgia got the number 1 back according to Lemmings :up:

[Byrd Man]

Damn...DE, Who all did Clemson get? I know they got Korn from up in Byrnes, but that's about all I know.

[Fran]

Where the hell is Michigan State on that list! :cmad:

[Darth Elektra]

Damn...DE, Who all did Clemson get? I know they got Korn from up in Byrnes, but that's about all I know.

Well our class isnt really impressing. We had a shot at two 5 star WR's but one chose F.St. and UNC.
We did get Korn... but thats pretty much it. :(

[Byrd Man]

But your still in the top 20. That's something to be proud of.

[Darth Elektra]

But your still in the top 20. That's something to be proud of.

Yeah, I guess.

[Tangled Web]

USC got 3 RB's this year including the #1 running back according to Rivals.
Yeah, that's not going to cause a log jam. :whatever:

[rdh007]

Michigan got the #15 class, which is where they usually finish. Makes sense.

[StorminNorman]

Yeah, that's not going to cause a log jam. :whatever:

Mad because USC completely out classes UCLA in recruits every year?

[Cmill216]

I guess the scouts havn't heard I am not playing football anymore. :up:

Every offense needs a little Norman. :hyper:

Yeah, that's not going to cause a log jam. :whatever:

And I wonder if those RBs knew that when they signed their name on the paper.

[Tangled Web]

And I wonder if those RBs knew that when they signed their name on the paper.
Well, Petey tells each one of them that they'll win the Heisman and they buy into that. Look at their past three years recruiting. Only one guy can carry the ball at a time.
Mad because USC completely out classes UCLA in recruits every year?
That won't last much longer. It's a question of which will come first 'SC having sub par lines with golden running backs or NCAA sanctions.

[Cmill216]

Well, Petey tells each one of them that they'll win the Heisman and they buy into that. Look at their past three years recruiting. Only one guy can carry the ball at a time.

Well, unless he converts one of them into a receiver, that's pretty friggin' ridiculous. There's no way a team needs to get three RBs out of one recruiting class.

[StorminNorman]

Well, Petey tells each one of them that they'll win the Heisman and they buy into that. Look at their past three years recruiting. Only one guy can carry the ball at a time.

That won't last much longer. It's a question of which will come first 'SC having sub par lines with golden running backs or NCAA sanctions.

Petey has 3 Heisman winners in his tenure - he has the right to tell the kids that.

Yes, because having 2 great RB's really hurt them when White and Bush patrolled the backfield. Plus any USC line will be okay against most Pac 10 DL.

As far as NCAA Sanctions go, lets see them before predicting anything.

[Mister J]

SC and Florida's classes were ridiculous. McKnight surprised me by going with SC. I thought he was staying at home with LSU, but that damn Pete Carroll is a hell of a recruiter.

Freakin' Florida snatched Deonte Thompson at the last minute. There was a decent chance of him going to Miami. I'm happy with what Randy was able to accomplish. He got some big signings (Marve, Bailey, Cooper and swiping Van Dyke away from the damn Gators).

Michigan did well too. Mallet is huge and I can't wait to see him under center. Of course, the damn Gators snagged Finch, but hey, Meyer was a machine this year.

I can't believe how well North Carolina and Illinois did. I know about Butch Davis and I'm not surprised he got some guys to come in (getting Marvin Austin was incredible), but Illinois sucks. Zooky recruited well at Florida, but how does he pull this off with the Illini. Some coaches in the Big 10 were griping that he had to be doing something fishy.

[StorminNorman]

Every offense needs a little Norman. :hyper:


:up:

[Darth Elektra]

Well its all said and done:

1 Florida
2 Southern Cal
3 Tennessee
4 LSU
5 Texas
6 South Carolina
7 Auburn
8 Notre Dame
9 Georgia
10 Alabama
11 Oregon
12 Michigan
13 Nebraska
14 Oklahoma
15 Ohio State
16 North Carolina
17 Illinois
18 Florida State
19 Georgia Tech
20 Clemson
21 California
22 Miami-FL
23 Penn State
24 Virginia
25 Pittsburgh

Per Rivals.com
http://rivals100.rivals.com/teamrank.asp?SID=1014

[Darth Elektra]

SC and Florida's classes were ridiculous. McKnight surprised me by going with SC. I thought he was staying at home with LSU, but that damn Pete Carroll is a hell of a recruiter.


Agreed.

Mad because USC completely out classes UCLA in recruits every year?

Pretty much sums it up.

[Darth Elektra]

Is anyone else suprised that neither Rutgers, Lousville or West Virginia is in the top 25.

[Darth Elektra]

The top 10 recruiting classes as rated by four of the top recruiting analysts:

CSTV NBC RC SP

1. Florida Florida Florida Florida

2. Tenn. USC Tenn. USC

3. Texas LSU USC LSU

4. USC Tenn. LSU Tenn.

5. LSU Texas Texas Texas

6. S. Car. Auburn S. Car. S. Car.

7. ND S. Car. Auburn Auburn

8. Nebraska Ohio St. ND Michigan

9. Auburn ND Georgia Oregon

10. Georgia Georgia Michigan ND

[Darth Elektra]

ACC:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...itz/index.html

SEC:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...itz/index.html

Big East:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...itz/index.html

Big Ten:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...itz/index.html

Big 12:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...itz/index.html

Pac 10:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...itz/index.html

Over all Rankings:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...ing/index.html

[Tangled Web]

Pretty much sums it up.
Gee, I wonder why USC is able to do so well in recruiting when they "bend" the rules every year.


http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/sports/abox/article_1576035.php

University of Suspensions Coming

[slipknotrocks]

wow, I really enjoyed this recruiting year. Can't believe its allready over...

Now we have to wait till the spring game.

[Immortalfire]

Oh praise Jesus...:yay:

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/stories/2007/02/14/0214sptncaarules.html

NCAA resets controversial clock rules

In all his years sitting in Sanford Stadium, Walter Corish can't recall ever hearing a fellow Georgia fan gripe about a football game lasting too long.

But the longtime Bulldogs season-ticket holder heard plenty of complaining last fall when NCAA rules changes started cutting his favorite team's games short by a few downs.

"I thought the rules took away part of the game from the kids," Corish said, "and they darn sure took something away from the fans."

Responding to negative reaction by fans and coaches, the NCAA football rules committee on Wednesday recommended completely eliminating the controversial clock rules of 2006 and implementing a new set of time-saving measures.

Last season's rules shortened the average game by about 14 minutes, but they also eliminated about 13 plays and reduced scoring by about five points a game. Coaches overwhelmingly complained that the rules changed the structure and flow of the game too much. After reviewing the data, the committee agreed.

The new rules are designed to put those plays back into the game but still shorten the game by eliminating "a lot of standing-around time," said Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville, one of two Division I-A coaches on the NCAA committee.

The most unpopular new rule last season called for the game clock to start as soon as the ball was marked ready for play after a change of possession. That rule was eliminated; the clock now won't start until after the first snap of a possession.

"What we lost was the playing opportunities for our athletes," said committee chairman Mike Clark, head coach at Virginia's Bridgewater College. "What we have done now will hopefully put more action into the game but diminish the dead time. At the same time, we plan to work at many levels to maintain the game length [we had]."

The rules changes include:

• Kickoffs will be from the 30-yard line instead of the 35. The clock won't start until the receiver touches the ball; last season it started as soon as the ball was kicked. Tuberville estimates 90 percent of kickoffs will now be returned.

"You'll find that kicking it out of the end zone will be rare, and it will add excitement to the game," Oregon coach Mike Bellotti said. "There will be more pressure on the kick-coverage team and more pressure on the defense because the offense is going to get better field position."

• Coming out of a television timeout, the play clock for the first play of a possession will be 15 seconds instead of the normal 25.

"The teams have been standing out there for almost three minutes during a TV timeout," Tuberville said. "They don't need 25 more seconds to get to the line and run a play."

• Charged team timeouts — not TV timeouts — will be cut by 30 seconds. This will be football's version of basketball's 30-second timeout. It will allow a coach to stop the clock but without a long delay. The timeout will last 30 seconds plus the 25 seconds on the play clock.

• On kickoffs, the play clock will start once the kicker is handed the ball by the official. In the past, the kicker could take as much time as he wanted before kicking the ball. Now, he is on the clock and a violation will result in a 5-yard penalty.

"That idea actually came from the coaches," said Rogers Redding, the SEC's supervisor of officials. "They thought a lot of time was being wasted getting the guys in position to kick the ball. This will speed up that process."

• The time allowed for instant replay reviews will be capped at two minutes. This will save some time but not a lot. The average replay review last season was 1:49, according to the NCAA.

The rules committee also announced that starting in 2008, college football will go to a 40-second play clock like that now used in the NFL. The 40-second clock will start at the end of every play. College football currently uses a 25-second clock that doesn't start until the ball is put in position and declared ready for play.

All of the proposals still need to be rubber-stamped by the NCAA's playing rules oversight panel on March 12

[Mister J]

Good stuff. I hated the new clock rules last year.

[Superman79]

There ARE football gods...It'll be nice to actually see the old rules back. If I recall, there was a couple games last season that might have gone differently but for the damn clock rule.

[Darth Elektra]

Nice! Glad the rules we're changed!
(We would have been 12-0 if they wouldnt have changed those clock rules :cwink: )

Spurrier and Bowden are at it agian(They did this back in Dec.)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17161641/

[Byrd Man]

Nice! Glad the rules we're changed!
(We would have been 12-0 if they wouldnt have changed those clock rules :cwink: )

Spurrier and Bowden are at it agian(They did this back in Dec.)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17161641/

hehe. Diffrent Bowden, same old ball coach.

[Tangled Web]

Petey has 3 Heisman winners in his tenure - he has the right to tell the kids that.

Yes, because having 2 great RB's really hurt them when White and Bush patrolled the backfield. Plus any USC line will be okay against most Pac 10 DL.

As far as NCAA Sanctions go, lets see them before predicting anything.
That's as far as traditional soft PAC-10 defenses are. But look how they played against a superior PAC-10 defense last year. USC's (very good) O-line got dominated. Our QB had more rushing yards than 'SC's entire all star back field in the second half.
As the log jam goes, their O-line won't be as good. UCLA keeps building the lines. The lack of skill players is hurting the Bruins, but building the lines is always a good strategy.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2756629

Coach Karl Dorrell, gets extension.
Meh...He's gone after this year. The media has set the expectations pretty high.




On a side not, I'm glad they changed the rules back. We don't need the NCAA to turn into the NFL with its attempts to shorten the game.

[Darth Elektra]

How much would it cost your university to fire Karl?

[Tangled Web]

How much would it cost your university to fire Karl?

Well, Dorell isn't getting paid the millions of dollars you see at other schools. He has his base pay but gets a lot of money off of incentives such as winning ten game, The Rose Bowl, BCS. So it wouldn't cost us too much. I'm sure he could find a new job right away. He's a young coach who is still learning. This isn't the place were a coach who is learning should be.

[Darth Elektra]

Well I know for Clemson, Tommy would have been fired after the Kentucky game but it would cost 2.5 million this year. It drops off to half a million next year.

[Tangled Web]

Well I know for Clemson, Tommy would have been fired after the Kentucky game but it would cost 2.5 million this year. It drops off to half a million next year.

Oh snapz. Yeah, Dorrell doesn't have that kind of security. Be careful. Maybe he'll be your next coach.

[Darth Elektra]

Maybe he'll be your next coach.

lol.

Yeah... Im hoping John Gruden of Tampa Bay gets a call from us next year.

[Buford The Sly]

Good stuff. I hated the new clock rules last year.
It was the worst rule ever...

[Tangled Web]

lol.

Yeah... Im hoping John Gruden of Tampa Bay gets a call from us next year.

Must be nice.

[StorminNorman]

I don't see Clemson being the type of College to lure away a big name NFL coach.

[Byrd Man]

Yeah. Jon Gruden could find work in the NFL. I think he wouldn't go to NCAA after being in the pros for so long.

[slipknotrocks]

I don't see Clemson being the type of College to lure away a big name NFL coach.

I do.


Spurrier and Bowden are at it agian(They did this back in Dec.)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17161641/

Thats why I dislike Spurrier.

Well I know for Clemson, Tommy would have been fired after the Kentucky game but it would cost 2.5 million this year. It drops off to half a million next year.

Yeah, you guys will have a tough descision next year, You guys will be forced to choose wether to fire him or give him an extension.
Im not sure its Tommy's fault, After hearing what your president did...

[Byrd Man]

Thats why I dislike Spurrier.


:dry:

[StorminNorman]

I do.



Thats why I dislike Spurrier.



Yeah, you guys will have a tough descision next year, You guys will be forced to choose wether to fire him or give him an extension.
Im not sure its Tommy's fault, After hearing what your president did...

I love Spurrier for his balls to say stuff that isn't very PC :up:

And Clemson is not a top tier program in College football, thus no premier NFL coach coming.

[slipknotrocks]

:dry:

If I remember correctly he was attacking Fulmer back in sept, then he lost and now he doesnt say anything. Why not? I just dislike coaches who come out and attack other coaches. It shows that Spurrier is very immature.

And think about it for a sec. Tommy was right, 7-5 up at Clemson gets you fired, 7-5 down here gets you a raise. I also hate to say it but does 2 of the last 10 sound like we have the right to bash Tommy?

Thankfully Spurrier is doing an AMAZING job here... but all Im saying is he's putting wood on the fire(Because there's alot of coaches that want to eat Spurrier alive, and if they get the chance they will.

[Byrd Man]

If I remember correctly he was attacking Fulmer back in sept, then he lost and now he doesnt say anything. Why not? I just dislike coaches who come out and attack other coaches. It shows that Spurrier is very immature.

And think about it for a sec. Tommy was right, 7-5 up at Clemson gets you fired, 7-5 down here gets you a raise. I also hate to say it but does 2 of the last 10 sound like we have the right to bash Tommy?

Thankfully Spurrier is doing an AMAZING job here... but all Im saying is he's putting wood on the fire(Because there's alot of coaches that want to eat Spurrier alive, and if they get the chance they will.

But that's Spurrier. "Free Shoes University" that ring a bell?

Here's a quote he said when he was at Florida.

"But the real tragedy was that 15 hadn't been colored yet." (telling Gator fans that a fire at Auburn's football dorm had destroyed 20 books)

[slipknotrocks]

And Clemson is not a top tier program in College football, thus no premier NFL coach coming.

Why not?

Clemson has one of the best fanbases(Sure, They want to win, and if they dont they get pissed. But last time I checked thats what Spurrier said SC needs to get a little of that attitude.)
They always recruit very well(always in the top 20.) If they would have landed Jo Jo and D. Jones then they would have been in the top 15... and they would have landed the best recruiting class in the ACC.
Clemson has already began to get their 08 recruiting class ready.
Death Valley is in no doubt the best Stadium. Their facilities is top-notch.
The Campus/People are very nice. (I lived in Anderson for about 2 years.)
Clemson has alot of traditions.
Tommy has shown that Clemson can easily win the ACC. They were one point away from the championship game this year and last year. They've beaten F.St 3 out of the last 4.
Clemson has Willy Korn, a 5 star QB about a month ago, now he's a 4 star. Then you've got Ritch, and Parker both 4 star QB's coming in next year.


Im not sure if Gruden would come but Clemson has alot to offer to any coach.

[StorminNorman]

If I remember correctly he was attacking Fulmer back in sept, then he lost and now he doesnt say anything. Why not? I just dislike coaches who come out and attack other coaches. It shows that Spurrier is very immature.

And think about it for a sec. Tommy was right, 7-5 up at Clemson gets you fired, 7-5 down here gets you a raise. I also hate to say it but does 2 of the last 10 sound like we have the right to bash Tommy?

Thankfully Spurrier is doing an AMAZING job here... but all Im saying is he's putting wood on the fire(Because there's alot of coaches that want to eat Spurrier alive, and if they get the chance they will.

Its Spurrier being Spurrier, he is a personality. USCar knew that when they hired him, and it is one of the reasons he is such a media darling. Sure, there are a lot of coaches that would love to knock him out, but Spurrier is one of the best coaches College Football has ever had and he can out coach just about anyone that he opposes...and he knows it, so he can get away with his comments.

[slipknotrocks]

Its Spurrier being Spurrier, he is a personality. USCar knew that when they hired him, and it is one of the reasons he is such a media darling. Sure, there are a lot of coaches that would love to knock him out, but Spurrier is one of the best coaches College Football has ever had and he can out coach just about anyone that he opposes...and he knows it, so he can get away with his comments.

Exactly. He's an amazing coach. One of the best. Im glad we got him. He's the best we could get. I just dont like how he talks agianst other coaches.

[StorminNorman]

Why not?

Clemson has one of the best fanbases(Sure, They want to win, and if they dont they get pissed. But last time I checked thats what Spurrier said SC needs to get a little of that attitude.)
They always recruit very well(always in the top 20.) If they would have landed Jo Jo and D. Jones then they would have been in the top 15... and they would have landed the best recruiting class in the ACC.
Clemson has already began to get their 08 recruiting class ready.
Death Valley is in no doubt the best Stadium. Their facilities is top-notch.
The Campus/People are very nice. (I lived in Anderson for about 2 years.)
Clemson has alot of traditions.
Tommy has shown that Clemson can easily win the ACC. They were one point away from the championship game this year and last year. They've beaten F.St 3 out of the last 4.
Clemson has Willy Korn, a 5 star QB about a month ago, now he's a 4 star. Then you've got Ritch, and Parker both 4 star QB's coming in next year.


Im not sure if Gruden would come but Clemson has alot to offer to any coach.

But when was the last time Clemson won a conference championship? When was the last time Clemson got to a BCS Game? When was the last time Clemson was a top 5 Recruiting School? When was the last time Clemson finished the season in the top 10.

Sure, Clemson is a GOOD Program - but there are a lot of good programs. They are not an ELITE Program. They can not stand toe to toe with the USC's, the Ohio States, the Georgias and Floridas. They are not a top tier team.

Do they have potential? Yes. Can they offer a lot to a Coach that comes in? Yes. Is it a very sexy job? No. And that is why they wouldn't get a Jon Gruden.

[Byrd Man]

But when was the last time Clemson won a conference championship? When was the last time Clemson got to a BCS Game? When was the last time Clemson was a top 5 Recruiting School? When was the last time Clemson finished the season in the top 10.

Sure, Clemson is a GOOD Program - but there are a lot of good programs. They are not an ELITE Program. They can not stand toe to toe with the USC's, the Ohio States, the Georgias and Floridas. They are not a top tier team.

Do they have potential? Yes. Can they offer a lot to a Coach that comes in? Yes. Is it a very sexy job? No. And that is why they wouldn't get a Jon Gruden.

Damn. Your a good debater. **** Jim Rome! I want Norman is burning and I am out!

[StorminNorman]

Damn. Your a good debater. **** Jim Rome! I want Norman is burning and I am out!

I plan on being a lawyer and politician :up:

[Byrd Man]

I plan on being a lawyer and politician :up:

Well. Even as a lawyer and politician, you'd still be less of an ass-hole than Jime Rome.

[StorminNorman]

Well. Even as a lawyer and politician, you'd still be less of an ass-hole than Jime Rome.

Thats why I like Jim Rome, he is the Bill O'Reilly of Sports.

[Cmill216]

Jon Gruden taking a job at Clemson?

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9540/lmaoqx8.gif

[Darth Elektra]

But when was the last time Clemson won a conference championship?

1990.

However, a point away from being in the ACC championship this year and last.

[slipknotrocks]

But when was the last time Clemson won a conference championship? When was the last time Clemson got to a BCS Game? When was the last time Clemson was a top 5 Recruiting School? When was the last time Clemson finished the season in the top 10.

Sure, Clemson is a GOOD Program - but there are a lot of good programs. They are not an ELITE Program. They can not stand toe to toe with the USC's, the Ohio States, the Georgias and Floridas. They are not a top tier team.

Do they have potential? Yes. Can they offer a lot to a Coach that comes in? Yes. Is it a very sexy job? No. And that is why they wouldn't get a Jon Gruden.

LOL. ok, so when is USC going to fire Carroll? When is Ohio ST. going to fire Jim Tressel? It doesnt happen. Plus why would he want to go there where he doesnt get to build the team up.

Lets look a Pete Carroll. USC wasnt that good before he came but in just 2 years he had the team as an "elite" team. Im not saying Clemson is a elite team but they have a great shot... and there's alot of coaches that would come. Plus, I love how you slid Georgia in there... very funny.

[Darth Elektra]

Lets not forget Clemson was ranked number 8th in the nation this year until our team collasped. Which falls on the shoulders of Tommy.

Tommy Bowden is a mediocre coach... he's a good coach but not great. If Clemson gets a great coach, we could easily become a "elite" team.

[StorminNorman]

LOL. ok, so when is USC going to fire Carroll? When is Ohio ST. going to fire Jim Tressel? It doesnt happen. Plus why would he want to go there where he doesnt get to build the team up.

Lets look a Pete Carroll. USC wasnt that good before he came but in just 2 years he had the team as an "elite" team. Im not saying Clemson is a elite team but they have a great shot... and there's alot of coaches that would come. Plus, I love how you slid Georgia in there... very funny.

Pete Carrol gets job offers every year, he is bound to find a Pro Job he wants. Top teams don't fire coaches, their coaches move on.

Georgia IS an elite program: 2 SEC Championships, 2 BCS Appearances, 1 BCS Victory, 3 SEC East titles, Back to Back top 10 Recruiting Classes, and a top coach. All in 6 years.

That is an elite program, period.

[StorminNorman]

1990.

However, a point away from being in the ACC championship this year and last.

Close doesn't count it. Close if forgotten. Again, Clemson is not a very sexy job.

Can Clemson get a great coach? Sure. Can they get a currently employed NFL Coach? No.

[Cmill216]

Close doesn't count it. Close if forgotten. Again, Clemson is not a very sexy job.

Can Clemson get a great coach? Sure. Can they get a currently employed NFL Coach just a few years removed from a Super Bowl victory? No.

Tweaked for accuracy.

[StorminNorman]

Tweaked for accuracy.

Clemson wouldn't be able to sway any NFL Coach at this point. Clemson doesn't have Alabama money to spend on an HC, which is the only reason they got Saban.

[Byrd Man]

Clemson wouldn't be able to sway any NFL Coach at this point. Clemson doesn't have Alabama money to spend on an HC, which is the only reason they got Saban.

True. The only way Clemson can get a NFL coach is if he was a once great college coach and went to the pros only to get disgraced and come back to the confrence he use to coach in................................Wait a minute. :huh:

[StorminNorman]

True. The only way Clemson can get a NFL coach is if he was a once great college coach and went to the pros only to get disgraced and come back to the confrence he use to coach in................................Wait a minute. :huh:

LOL, exactly.

[Tangled Web]

Clemson hasn't won the conference since 1990? Dude...

[Darth Elektra]

Clemson wouldn't be able to sway any NFL Coach at this point. Clemson doesn't have Alabama money to spend on an HC, which is the only reason they got Saban.

Exscuse me, but how do you know how much money our university has?

[Darth Elektra]

Some Tampa Bay fans were calling for Grudens head this year, what makes you think it will get better for him? The Falcons/Panthers/ and Saints are all going to battle for the Division this year, not Tampa.

However, I just brought up a name, Wish I hadnt now. But anyways we'll see who we get come next December(That is if TB doesnt secure his job).

[Cmill216]

Some Tampa Bay fans were calling for Grudens head this year, what makes you think it will get better for him? The Falcons/Panthers/ and Saints are all going to battle for the Division this year, not Tampa.

Funny fact:

Did you know that since 2003 the team that had finished last in the NFC South finished first the very next season?

Carolina finished last in 2002, and first in 2003.
Atlanta finished last in 2003, and first in 2004.
Tampa Bay finished last in 2004, and first in 2005.
New Orleans finished last in 2005, and first in 2006.

And who finished last in 2006? ;)

Not saying it'll happen, but because they had a sucky ass year this year, means absolutely nothing for '07. If the team is healthy, and they make the right moves in free agency and the draft, they can easily shoot right back up to the top of the division. The NFC South is THAT wide open.

[StorminNorman]

Exscuse me, but how do you know how much money our university has?

I know Clemson has major bucks, but they wont spend as much as Alabama did on a coach. That was ridiculous money.

[Mister J]

I know Clemson has major bucks, but they wont spend as much as Alabama did on a coach. That was ridiculous money.
It was insane. They gave Mike Shula 4M just to go away. Then Saban gets like, 32M guaranteed over 8 years. Good googa mooga. :wow:

[Byrd Man]

It was insane. They gave Mike Shula 4M just to go away. Then Saban gets like, 32M guaranteed over 8 years. Good googa mooga. :wow:

Damn......damn.......that's alot of money. I also hear Saban has the option of becoming Bama's AD if/when he retires from head coaching.

[Darth Elektra]

4 star WR, Markish Jones decides F.St isnt the place for him... signs with Clemson!

http://clemsontigers.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/021607aaa.html
http://tigernet.com/view/story.do?id=6491
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4179/926712yy4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
He looks good as a Tiger!

This is the icing on the cake!
Tommy Bowden gets the last laugh over Papa Bowden!

[Tangled Web]

It was insane. They gave Mike Shula 4M just to go away. Then Saban gets like, 32M guaranteed over 8 years. Good googa mooga. :wow:

Good to see that school has its priorities in order. :whatever:

[Darth Elektra]

Pac10-

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=2767809

[Cmill216]

Question for ya D. Elektra:

What kind of offense does Clemson run currently?

[Immortalfire]

Trying to find a link, but it looks like Kevin Bulter's son is gonna play for us. :up:

[StorminNorman]

Awesome, hopefully another installment in Georgia's legacy of great kickers.

[StorminNorman]

Good to see that school has its priorities in order. :whatever:

Sad because UCLA doesn't have that type of money to spend on athletics?

The money spent on Saban came from Alabama Alumni donations to the FOOTBALL PROGRAM. So no money was taken away from the academic portion of the University.

If Saban wins (which I think most expect him to) then Alabama will get tons more money coming into the school by way of merchandise, bowls, tv deals, etc (I don't mention tickets because ticket sells at Alabama are a constant - just like they are at Georgia ;)) This brings money INTO the academic part of the school and thus benefiting EVERYONE.

Understand?

[Tangled Web]

When Alabama does something noteworthy in academics and not football then give me a notice.

[Tangled Web]

And another thing, Nick Saban is likely to bail and run off with that money. He's bailed everywhere else he's been.

[StorminNorman]

When Alabama does something noteworthy in academics and not football then give me a notice.

The University of Alabama was named a top 50 public university (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_university_%28U.S.%29) in the nation by U.S. News & World Report (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._News_%26_World_Report) for 2006.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Alabama#endnote_UA_News_Aug19)

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Alabama#endnote_UA_News_Aug19)
In 2003, five students from the University were named to the 2003 USA Today (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_Today) All-USA College Academic Team. UA students garnered the most awards of any college or university, claiming five of 83 spots on the list. Four students were named to the 2004 team, five students were named to the 2005 team, and six students were named to the 2006 teams.


UA graduates include 15 Rhodes Scholars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodes_Scholarship), 15 Goldwater Scholars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater_Scholarship), nine Truman Scholars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truman_Scholarship), and one Portz Scholar (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portz_Scholarship&action=edit).


UA's School of Law ranks as one of the top law schools in the southeast, as it has been named one of the top 50 law schools in the United States several years in a row by U.S. News and World Report (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._News_and_World_Report). UA Law scored in as the 43rd ranked law school in the country in the latest report. The law school boasts prestigious alumni such as United States Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Black), long time Alabama senator Howell Heflin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howell_Heflin), and both current U.S. Senators from Alabama (Richard Shelby (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Shelby) and Jeff Sessions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Sessions)).
UA is one of the 113 members of the Association of Research Libraries, which yearly compiles internal rankings. In 2004-2005, the last year for which statistics are available, the University of Alabama ranked 94th (out of 113) in support staff; 98th in total expenditures; 83rd in total volumes; 73rd in current serials; and 103rd in total items loaned, a measurement of the library’s use.


Published reports have ranked UA among the top four flagship universities in the Southeast and among the nation's top 25 public flagship universities in terms of minority enrollment.

[StorminNorman]

And another thing, Nick Saban is likely to bail and run off with that money. He's bailed everywhere else he's been.

Who will pay him more money than Alabama? Alabama has alumni who will give Saban their first born child if he wins a National Championship.

[Tangled Web]

The University of Alabama was named a top 50 public university (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_university_%28U.S.%29) in the nation by U.S. News & World Report (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._News_%26_World_Report) for 2006.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Alabama#endnote_UA_News_Aug19)

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Alabama#endnote_UA_News_Aug19)
In 2003, five students from the University were named to the 2003 USA Today (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_Today) All-USA College Academic Team. UA students garnered the most awards of any college or university, claiming five of 83 spots on the list. Four students were named to the 2004 team, five students were named to the 2005 team, and six students were named to the 2006 teams.


UA graduates include 15 Rhodes Scholars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodes_Scholarship), 15 Goldwater Scholars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater_Scholarship), nine Truman Scholars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truman_Scholarship), and one Portz Scholar (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portz_Scholarship&action=edit).


UA's School of Law ranks as one of the top law schools in the southeast, as it has been named one of the top 50 law schools in the United States several years in a row by U.S. News and World Report (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._News_and_World_Report). UA Law scored in as the 43rd ranked law school in the country in the latest report. The law school boasts prestigious alumni such as United States Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Black), long time Alabama senator Howell Heflin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howell_Heflin), and both current U.S. Senators from Alabama (Richard Shelby (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Shelby) and Jeff Sessions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Sessions)).
UA is one of the 113 members of the Association of Research Libraries, which yearly compiles internal rankings. In 2004-2005, the last year for which statistics are available, the University of Alabama ranked 94th (out of 113) in support staff; 98th in total expenditures; 83rd in total volumes; 73rd in current serials; and 103rd in total items loaned, a measurement of the library’s use.


Published reports have ranked UA among the top four flagship universities in the Southeast and among the nation's top 25 public flagship universities in terms of minority enrollment.

I'm sure that's just great for a school in that conference.

[slipknotrocks]

QB Garcia gets arrested:
http://southcarolina.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=643155

[StorminNorman]

I'm sure that's just great for a school in that conference.

You do realize that we have Vanderbilt, one of the top universities IN THE NATION in our conference right?

UF ranked 13th in the U.S. News and World Report "Top Public Universities"

U.S. News & World Report (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._News_%26_World_Report) magazine ranked UGA 19th on its 2005 list of the 50 top public universities for a sixth year in a row. UGA also ranks 58th overall in the nation.

I could go on, but you get my point.

[Mister J]

I'm sure that's just great for a school in that conference.
Unnecessary.

[Tangled Web]

You have to understand that the Pac-10 has UCLA, Stanford, UC Berkely, Washington and USC in it.

[StorminNorman]

Sure, but to talk down to the SEC's Athletics because you were losing an argument is a pretty immature thing to do - which given your history should of been expected.

I am sorry to have higher expectations.