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redmarvel
01-12-2007, 11:32 AM
Here's what led to the question, a cop was off duty and struck a pedestrian with his car and took off... he "was sentenced yesterday to two years less a day, to be served in the community, for leaving the scene of an accident causing bodily harm"

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/170442

Should cops get an easier or harder time of it when they commit a crime?

black_dust
01-12-2007, 11:35 AM
No they should get the same or worse and set an example.

Was a case here a police man was caught doing 150mph on the motorway (free way) for no reason but to see how fast his car would go, he got off with a ligth sentence as well i think.

BRUTAL
01-12-2007, 11:37 AM
FIRST VOTE! :woot:

Cops should be treated the same as everyone else when breaking the law.

blind_fury
01-12-2007, 11:37 AM
They should be set to higher standard because they have more authority and power. In other words they get tougher sentances like military men and women who break the law while serving

Darthphere
01-12-2007, 11:37 AM
Um no. Dumb question.

jimmy
01-12-2007, 11:38 AM
Harsher; The Wire is my evidence to support this claim.

redmarvel
01-12-2007, 11:41 AM
Hey, I agree they should be treated the same as everyone else or get a harsher sentence because they are supposed to be setting an example for the public. However, if there are people out there who believe they should get an easier sentence, I'ld like to know what their logic is. I want to understand WHY this officer got such a light sentence.

terry78
01-12-2007, 11:43 AM
The officer had pull. Every person in the line of government work will have some type of tenure and ability to get off in some way or another. You flash your badge at any public place, people will treat you very differently.

Mr Sparkle
01-12-2007, 11:45 AM
Should cops get an easier or harder time of it when they commit a crime?

stricter, because they should be more aware of the laws, seeing as how they enforce them and all.

Iceman
01-12-2007, 11:45 AM
They should be treated more harshly. They need to set an example.

BRUTAL
01-12-2007, 11:51 AM
Hey, I agree they should be treated the same as everyone else or get a harsher sentence because they are supposed to be setting an example for the public. However, if there are people out there who believe they should get an easier sentence, I'ld like to know what their logic is. I want to understand WHY this officer got such a light sentence.

Police officers are NOT employed to set examples for the public. That's what PARENTS are for. If police officers were hired to set examples for the rest of the public then why doesn't everyone prevent crime? Why doesn't everyone run down people in high speed chases. Why not just call you neighbor when you're getting beat up at home? Police officers are hired to enforce the law, that's the job. If they break the law off duty then should be treated the same as anyone else. If they break the law while on duty then the should be treated as someone who broke the law while AT WORK.

As far as the light sentence, he has friends. Just as in every other occupation on the planet, in law enforcement, it's not what you do but who you know. There are no Super-Cop/Commissioner Gordon types in real life. I have been involved in law enforcement for quite some time now and the fact of the matter is that if you know the right people you can actually get out of most things. The system is flawed and in some parts corrupt and it sucks but that's the way it is.

redmarvel
01-12-2007, 12:03 PM
At no time in my life did I ever take an oath to "uphold the law". When a police officer breaks the law he is also breaking that oath. He should get a harsher penalty. Also, police officers are more aware of what the different laws are and what the penalties could be than your average member of the public.

NHawk19
01-12-2007, 12:17 PM
Depends on the crime and circumstances.

Generally I think they should recieve longer sentences but I may be against putting them in the general prison population.

Ben Urich
01-12-2007, 12:23 PM
They should be treated the same. :o

Super Kal
01-12-2007, 12:26 PM
no, they shouldn't... they should be treated just like everyone else.

Wilhelm-Scream
01-12-2007, 12:29 PM
If they're off duty and not using their police-powers to commit the crime, then they should be treated exactly as everyone else.

If they're on-duty or using their police-powers to commit the crime, it should be much harder on them...seeing as how, you get into a lot more trouble for hitting a cop than you do for hitting a civilian.

JustABill
01-12-2007, 12:34 PM
Harsher sentence. They deserve it if they are there to uphold the law and go around breaking it.

StorminNorman
01-12-2007, 12:37 PM
The same. There should be no government imposed punishments to being a police officer, if one makes a mistake (even if it is horrible) they should not be more penalized than someone else for being human.

Darthphere
01-12-2007, 12:42 PM
The same. There should be no government imposed punishments to being a police officer, if one makes a mistake (even if it is horrible) they should not be more penalized than someone else for being human.

Thats assuming it was a mistake.

Wilhelm-Scream
01-12-2007, 12:45 PM
The same. There should be no government imposed punishments to being a police officer, if one makes a mistake (even if it is horrible) they should not be more penalized than someone else for being human.
That's not fair though.
If you punch a guy during a barroom brawl, you can get 6 months in jail.
If you punch a cop, you can get 20 years.
'Cause cops aren't "just humans".
They're entrusted with a ton of authority over the rest of us, even the power to kill.

StorminNorman
01-12-2007, 12:53 PM
That's not fair though.
If you punch a guy during a barroom brawl, you can get 6 months in jail.
If you punch a cop, you can get 20 years.
'Cause cops aren't "just humans".
They're entrusted with a ton of authority over the rest of us, even the power to kill.

You make a very good point. I would say that a cop in uniform should suffer a greater penalty, but that should come in the form of a seperate charge (a cop breaking the law should be one penalty, a person breaking hte law together - so you face both if you are a law breaking cop), but if an off duty cop breaks the law, they should be treated as anyone else.

Wilhelm-Scream
01-12-2007, 12:57 PM
Then we agree.
This reminds me of the insanity of how if you stab a guy, you get one sentence, but if you call him a n***** or a f***** before stabbing him, suddenly it's a "Hate Crime" and you get a tougher sentence.

Gonking
01-12-2007, 01:07 PM
No.

ReTrO JuNkIe 42
01-12-2007, 02:44 PM
Yes

Kyalesyin
01-12-2007, 02:47 PM
They're only human, and their job isn't exactly easy. Unless the crime was an abuse of police power [hiding a drug smuggling ring behind the uniform, for example] they should be treated just the same.

terry78
01-12-2007, 03:18 PM
^True, cops are only human, but when you choose to be a member of a group that can wield power that affects the lives of those around you so severly, you're held to a different standard. It's not fair, but you knew what the job was when you took it.

Wilhelm-Scream
01-12-2007, 03:50 PM
And let us look at all the unfair advantages a criminal cop has.

Remember the New York (Freak) Cop who nearly killed the Haitian guy by arresting him and then repeatedly ramming a wooden plunger handle up his ass?
Well, if you were walking down the street, and some strange guy said, "Get down on the ground!"...you'd say, "Uh....no. :dry:" and then either ignore him. kick his ass or run away.

But all a cop has to do is flash his wallet, and the majority of society would get down on the ground, thinking, "There must be some mix-up. He must think I've done something. I'll cooperate so he sees that I'm law abiding."

At which point, he can hand cuff you, take you to his car, drive you to the woods and rape you with a plunger, if that his his sick desire.



Also, here in Washington...this highly decorated police officer was irrationally jealous and abusive with his wife.
She told all of her loved ones that she was seriously scared that he'd kill her one day, 'cause he was such a psycho and...had told her that he'd kill her if she ever tried to leave him.

But, this cop was very popular with his cohorts, to the point that when the wife called about abuse, they'd come and tell her to calm down, that she was being paranoid, etc.
Next, a fellow cop, a female, actually started harrassing and threatening the woman on behalf of the husband.

And why do I know all of this? 'Cause of course, the Cop shot his wife. She's dead now.

When you have a corrupt cop, it is most likely that other cops are aware of their corruption, and dig it! And that "loyalty" can be used to cover up or even abett crimes.

Kaleb
01-12-2007, 04:30 PM
My uncle is a high ranking official in the police force here, and i know he is currupt,like he drives a sportscar to work and there is no way in hell you can afford that on a policemans salary.

ang_hulk
01-12-2007, 04:31 PM
they should get worse,civies get worse if they commit crimes towards cops,copps should get worse for commiting crimes towards civies,its there job to uphold the law.

kytrigger
01-12-2007, 04:40 PM
They should get teh saem punishment (the only difference might be where they are incarcerated).

I disagree with people saying they should get a harsher punishment because their job is to uphold the law. IMO, if you are living in this country, then you should abide by that country's laws. It's every person's job to uphold the law. Now, if they break the law whiel abusing their power, then it should just be an extra crime committed (and therefore more of a punishment), but it shouldn't just mean that they get a tougher sentence for the one crime.

Wolfwood
01-12-2007, 04:40 PM
If they're off duty and not using their police-powers to commit the crime, then they should be treated exactly as everyone else.

If they're on-duty or using their police-powers to commit the crime, it should be much harder on them...seeing as how, you get into a lot more trouble for hitting a cop than you do for hitting a civilian.

Agreed, if he screws up out of uniform and in a way in which he wasn't abusing his power, then it should be treated no better or no worse then any other person.

It's when they use their power to commit a crime that they should receive a harsher punishment. Cops are human, they make mistakes and screw up, it just happens so they shouldn't have more punishment thrust upon them just for something that could happen to anyone. However, it takes more malicious forethought to abuse the power you have and thus I believe those people should be tried harder then others.

The Spawn
01-12-2007, 04:48 PM
Why in the hell would anyone vote for any option other than they should be treated like everyone else?

ROOR
01-12-2007, 05:02 PM
Why in the hell would anyone vote for any option other than they should be treated like everyone else?


Eh probably because a lot of people have a skewed opinion of cops. I really dislike cops, but they should still be treated like everyone else. I think the question should be, should they be investigated like everyone else? I mean, I'm sure cops don't 'have probable' cause used against them for searches and stuff as much as a regular person. And honestly the out of uniform thing seems kind of silly to me, because I mean it's not like they WOULDN'T identify themselves as a cop right away if they thought it could get them out of whatever they were doing.

The Darkness
01-12-2007, 05:39 PM
Probable.

ROOR
01-12-2007, 05:44 PM
Probable.


Wow good call, and here I was anxious about posting for a first time....

Asteroid-Man
01-12-2007, 06:57 PM
I think it should be easier, they help people all the time, if they realize what they did wrong yes I say easier if they plead guilty it should be harder

Arkady Rossovich
01-12-2007, 08:05 PM
They should be treated like anyone else...or a more harsh sentence because they broke or abused their vow to serve the public.

ScottyBBadd
01-13-2007, 03:15 AM
The system is flawed and in some parts corrupt and it sucks but that's the way it is.

That is why police should get harsher sentences. To make an example of those who are susposed to uphold the law, but choose to break it. You do that to every corrupt police officer, and corruption goes way down.

Kritish
01-13-2007, 03:16 AM
Everyone deserves the same justice.

So no.