How can they top or create a successful follow-up for the next three films?! [Archive]

Road Warrior

01-21-2007, 12:59 AM

It seems like Spider-Man 4 is pretty much confirmed. Now, the biggest question in my mind is how are they gonna follow-up the first trilogy? Spider-Man has accepted his responsibility, dealt with it, and learned not to abuse them. He has fought Green Goblin I+II, Doc Ock, Sandman, and Venom. And, he got MJ. (Whether or not he keeps her we'll have to wait till Spider-Man 3 is released to find out.) So, what else is there?

I have two solutions. One is very realistic and the other isn't so much. I'll start with the less likely solution. Spider-Man 3 hasn't been released yet, but I'm pretty sure that in the film Peter Parker will have figured it out. When we see him in Spider-Man 4 he won't be making any major mistakes. The man knows what he's doing. So, what he will do is try to prevent things from getting out of control. In the first two films (not sure what happens in the third one) he waits for something to happen. When the Green Goblin attacked during the Parade he didn't try to figure out who he was and stop him before he does something. He just waited for the next attack. In Spider-Man 2 he does the same thing. He just waits for Doc Ock to attack. I think Peter will stop doing that. The man works in a newspaper and now has the Gwen/Capt. Stacy police connection. He'll start becoming more of a detective/reporter. He'll start investigating his villains. Now, if Spider-Man is gonna become a detective/reporter then who would make the PERFECT villain? The Kingpin, of course. Unforunately, Fox has the movie rights. But. . .I don't see any Daredevil sequels being made. So, Sony and Fox will arrive on some agreement. I think the Kingpin will become a Blofeld-type villain. Spider-Man will battle Kingpin in the last three movies, but only go one-on-one in Spider-Man 6. In Spider-Man 4 and 5 he'll battle the Kingpin's version of Dr. No and #2. As for Peter's personal life, I think Peter and MJ will probably break up at the end of Spider-Man 3. Of course we don't know for sure since the film hasn't been released yet. But, if that is the case then they'll introduce Felicia Hardy/Black Cat in Spider-Man 4. So, Peter will become a pimp and be involved with MJ, Gwen, and Felicia/Black Cat. And, I think Aunt May will survive Spider-Man 3 but of course she's old so we'll see her health get bad in the next three films and its something he'll have to deal with, of course.

Now, for the more realistic approach! They have about five major villains left: Lizard, Mysterio, HobGoblin, Carnage, and apparently the symbiote survives so he'll be back. That's good! All those villains will be used in the next three films. But, if they really wanna create good hype they'll have to bring someone back from the dead. It'll most likely be Doc Ock. I think Ock will create the Sinister Six and that'll be Spider-Man's villain in Spider-Man 6.

Your thoughts?

Catman

01-21-2007, 01:13 AM

Sounds good to me.

NewYorkSpider

01-21-2007, 01:23 AM

First off I think that Kingpin and Black Cat should never be in a movie. I don't think that it would live up to it's expectations the way people think it would, but that is just my opinion.

As far as making a successful follow up. Have a possible cliffhanger in the movie or like in SM2 at the end. That of course would leave people guessing whats gonna happen with that particular character. In our case, that would probably be The Lizard.

As far as bringing Doc Ock back, that would be a good idea for the franchise. A huge character in the comics and one of Spideys hardest foes. I beleive that this would work great with the Gwen Stacy storyline because Doc Ock was the cause of Captain Stacy's death.

There are a lot of storylines the franchise could make. I think those are two of the important thing they need to look at doing.

Catman

01-21-2007, 01:28 AM

First off I think that Kingpin and Black Cat should never be in a movie. I don't think that it would live up to it's expectations the way people think it would, but that is just my opinion.

Why, dude?

As far as making a successful follow up. Have a possible cliffhanger in the movie or like in SM2 at the end. That of course would leave people guessing whats gonna happen with that particular character. In our case, that would probably be The Lizard.

I don't know if Spider-Man 3 will have a cliffhanger, but there's enough time to film a quick one now.

As far as bringing Doc Ock back, that would be a good idea for the franchise. A huge character in the comics and one of Spideys hardest foes. I beleive that this would work great with the Gwen Stacy storyline because Doc Ock was the cause of Captain Stacy's death.

The comic book fans would love that!

There are a lot of storylines the franchise could make. I think those are two of the important thing they need to look at doing.

It's true that the comics have plenty of storylines, but comics and movies are two different things. In comics they take their time. We only 6 movies to cram everything in.

NewYorkSpider

01-21-2007, 01:46 AM

Why, dude? Kingpin would be ok. I don't like the idea of Black Cat though. I think I have visions of Batman Returns.

I don't know if Spider-Man 3 will have a cliffhanger, but there's enough time to film a quick one now.

I'm sure they will show us a scene with Doctor Conners working on reptile DNA

The comic book fans would love that!

I would love to see this happen for SM4. Alfered Molina has an option for SM4..

It's true that the comics have plenty of storylines, but comics and movies are two different things. In comics they take their time. We only 6 movies to cram everything in.

It will be hard to cram every single villain in a movie. I don't think they need to use anymore goblins though.

Catman

01-21-2007, 01:54 AM

Kingpin would be ok. I don't like the idea of Black Cat though. I think I have visions of Batman Returns.

lol. :D We've had that discussion before. But, I think they can pull something off.

I'm sure they will show us a scene with Doctor Conners working on reptile DNA

Wouldn't be surprised.

I would love to see this happen for SM4. Alfered Molina has an option for SM4..

Agreed.

It will be hard to cram every single villain in a movie. I don't think they need to use anymore goblins though.

They could pull off a Sinister Six.

NewYorkSpider

01-21-2007, 02:05 AM

They could pull off a Sinster Six only if we knew the characters backgrounds. Or at least 4 or 5 of the villians, then introduce them into the movie.

Shifty

01-21-2007, 02:16 AM

They could pull off a Sinster Six only if we knew the characters backgrounds. Or at least 4 or 5 of the villians, then introduce them into the movie.

Doc Ock, Kraven, Sandman, Hobgoblin from Spider-Man 5, could be familiar characters.

Road Warrior

01-21-2007, 02:21 AM

I like the Sinister Six idea, but that could only be done for Spider-Man 6. What are they gonna do for the fourth installment? The Lizard? That works, I guess. So...

Spider-Man 4---> The Lizard & Kraven
Spider-Man 5---> Carnage
Spider-Man 6---> The Sinister Six w/ Mysterio.

Catman

01-21-2007, 02:28 AM

The Sinister Six idea kicks ass, but I also want some Kingpin! :cmad:

NewYorkSpider

01-21-2007, 02:33 AM

Spider-Man 4---> The Lizard & Kraven
Spider-Man 5---> Carnage
Spider-Man 6---> The Sinister Six w/ Mysterio.

Carnage should never be in a movie unless it has Venom in it.

Catman

01-21-2007, 02:36 AM

Carnage should never be in a movie unless it has Venom in it.

They say that the symbiote survives Spider-Man 3. Although Eddie Brock doesn't so, they are up to something.

NewYorkSpider

01-21-2007, 02:37 AM

They say that the symbiote survives Spider-Man 3. Although Eddie Brock doesn't so, they are up to something.

That scares me.

Catman

01-21-2007, 02:38 AM

That scares me.

Trust in Raimi, man! :ninja:

NewYorkSpider

01-21-2007, 02:41 AM

Trust in Raimi, man! :ninja:

I trust him, but i would have rather seen Eddie Brock go to jail then to die.

Shifty

01-21-2007, 02:43 AM

I trust him, but i would have rather seen Eddie Brock go to jail then to die.

Then wouldn't he tell the media that Peter Parker is :spidey: ? Just like Normie, he's gotta go. Either in SM3 or SM4.

NewYorkSpider

01-21-2007, 02:45 AM

Then wouldn't he tell the media that Peter Parker is :spidey: ? Just like Normie, he's gotta go. Either in SM3 or SM4.

Never thought of it that way.

Catman

01-21-2007, 02:59 AM

^ It all makes sense now.

Road Warrior

01-21-2007, 03:07 AM

Carnage should never be in a movie unless it has Venom in it.

They say that the symbiote survives Spider-Man 3. Although Eddie Brock doesn't so, they are up to something.

That scares me.

Trust in Raimi, man! :ninja:

I trust him, but i would have rather seen Eddie Brock go to jail then to die.

Then wouldn't he tell the media that Peter Parker is :spidey: ? Just like Normie, he's gotta go. Either in SM3 or SM4.

Never thought of it that way.

^ It all makes sense now.

Venom should have had his own movie, but if he's in Spider-Man 3 then should go out in a blaze of glory. Or is it blaze of evil. :huh: You know what I mean!

Shifty

01-21-2007, 03:09 AM

Why can't Spidey keep his identity hidden? USM, Civil War, the movies. The Animated Series was the best since only the Osbornes and Venom knew who Spidey was. The one time his mask was taken off no one believed a punk like Parker could be it and his powers were gone. Superman has the worst ****ing disguise yet Clark Kent can take a crap in peace knowing the some bad guy or the media won't break down the door looking for him.

Catman

01-21-2007, 03:13 AM

Why can't Spidey keep his identity hidden?

lol. The million dollar question. :D

USM, Civil War, the movies.

:csad:

The Animated Series was the best since only the Osbornes and Venom knew who Spidey was.

And, MJ when they got married. Oh, and Madam Web. And, that little girl he told his story too. It was based on a famous comic issue. Already forgot the name.

The one time his mask was taken off no one believed a punk like Parker could be it and his powers were gone.

I don't remember that episode.

Superman has the worst ****ing disguise yet Clark Kent can take a crap in piece knowing the some bad guy or the media won't brake down the door looking for him.

lol :D

Shifty

01-21-2007, 03:24 AM

lol. The million dollar question. :D

:csad:

And, MJ when they got married. Oh, and Madam Web. And, that little girl he told his story too. It was based on a famous comic issue. Already forgot the name.

I don't remember that episode.

lol :D

MJ was a clone who died.

Pete couldn't hide his identity from Madame Web.

The Insidious Six, remember Spidey's powers would go off and on. His powers were off and he showed up to save Aunt May, mask was revealed. They start attacking him and Pete has some good luck and doesn't die but I think Doc Ock said that he couldn't find the real Spider-Man so he dressed up in the costume.

And yet if you asked me stuff from my Contempo Islam I couldn't tell you anything :woot: :csad:

Visionary

01-21-2007, 12:14 PM

SPIDER-MAN 4:

THE LIZARD (main villain) and KRAVEN THE HUNTER (secondary villain) and ELECTRO (seperate story). Using elements from the comic book story arc "Kraven's Last Hunt" as the blueprint. At the end of the film could also bring back Doctor Octopus, as Afred Molina/Sam Raimi said he's optioned for SM3/SM4--and he's not in SM3.

Catman

01-21-2007, 01:45 PM

MJ was a clone who died.

I don't remember that.

Pete couldn't hide his identity from Madame Web.

Wasn't the last episode when Madame Web sent Spider-Man to another dimension and he met Stan Lee? lol.

The Insidious Six, remember Spidey's powers would go off and on. His powers were off and he showed up to save Aunt May, mask was revealed. They start attacking him and Pete has some good luck and doesn't die but I think Doc Ock said that he couldn't find the real Spider-Man so he dressed up in the costume.

Oh yeah! I also remember in an episode of Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends that they dressed up Flash Thompson as Spider-Man and had Sandman, I think, believe he was Spider-Man. lol.

Shifty

01-21-2007, 02:34 PM

I don't remember that.

Hydro-Man's return. On their honeymoon she turned into water and then later evaporated. That's when Madame Web showed up for the Secret War.

Catman

01-21-2007, 02:37 PM

Hydro-Man's return. On their honeymoon she turned into water and then later evaporated. That's when Madame Web showed up for the Secret War.

Wasn't the Secret War before their wedding? Damn...its been a while. I have to watch the show again.

rockportspidey

01-21-2007, 03:34 PM

Don't use Kingpin...Black Cat would be ok to see on the screen.

I like the idea of Kraven hunting The Lizard and Spidey torn between stopping Dr. Connors' rampage and at the same time trying to protect him from Kraven. That would be pretty cool.

But wow, they really have to do a lot of work to make this one even close to being as good as the other 3. We haven't even seen the 3rd one yet, and you can already tell that this movie is going to be extremely hard to top.

Catman

01-21-2007, 03:53 PM

Don't use Kingpin...Black Cat would be ok to see on the screen.

Kingpin is awesome! I would love to see him in the film.

I like the idea of Kraven hunting The Lizard and Spidey torn between stopping Dr. Connors' rampage and at the same time trying to protect him from Kraven. That would be pretty cool.

Kraven will only work if it's cast by a big star. The MAIN reason 90% of people are gonna see Spider-Man 3 is to see symbiote Spidey and Venom. So, how are they gonna top Venom with Lizard and Kraven? You get what I mean? So, Kraven has to be a big star.

But wow, they really have to do a lot of work to make this one even close to being as good as the other 3. We haven't even seen the 3rd one yet, and you can already tell that this movie is going to be extremely hard to top.

Yeah, I know.

GoldGoblin

01-21-2007, 06:18 PM

The MAIN reason 90% of people are gonna see Spider-Man 3 is to see symbiote Spidey and Venom.

^Most people don't even know Venom is gonna be in this film,most people are gonna see spider-man 3 so they can see spider-man.

Catman

01-21-2007, 06:56 PM

^Most people don't even know Venom is gonna be in this film,most people are gonna see spider-man 3 so they can see spider-man.

um. . .EVERYBODY knows that the Venom is in the movie. The trailers are showing symbiote Spidey. And, everyone knows that symbiote Spidey leads to Venom. Even if they are not sure that Venom is indeed the film they know that Eddie Brock is in the film and we'll get some kind of a cliffhanger kind of like Spider-Man 2.

GoldGoblin

01-21-2007, 07:14 PM

um. . .EVERYBODY knows that the Venom is in the movie. The trailers are showing symbiote Spidey. And, everyone knows that symbiote Spidey leads to Venom. Even if they are not sure that Venom is indeed the film they know that Eddie Brock is in the film and we'll get some kind of a cliffhanger kind of like Spider-Man 2.

^You said 90% of people know that Venom is gonna be in this movie,there are way more than 10% of moviegoers who have no clue that he is in this movie.

SamuraiSon6

01-21-2007, 07:54 PM

back to the spider-man always revealing himself issue, i think if that is the best route for the next movie actually. whether its lizard, sinister six, or whoever, they should know his real identity very well and haunt him on a day to day basis. i think there has to be some sort of struggle for the movies to work, and i think that is probably the most likely

Catman

01-21-2007, 08:00 PM

^You said 90% of people know that Venom is gonna be in this movie,there are way more than 10% of moviegoers who have no clue that he is in this movie.

Hey, as long as those 90% pay to see the movie we'll be alright. ;)

back to the spider-man always revealing himself issue, i think if that is the best route for the next movie actually. whether its lizard, sinister six, or whoever, they should know his real identity very well and haunt him on a day to day basis. i think there has to be some sort of struggle for the movies to work, and i think that is probably the most likely

I think it would be much more unique if the villains didn't know his identity for a change!

GoldGoblin

01-22-2007, 12:24 AM

I think it would be much more unique if the villains didn't know his identity for a change!

^That's what I've been looking forward too.

Catman

01-22-2007, 01:38 AM

^ Hopefully we'll get it.

Mr. Wooden Alligator

01-23-2007, 05:40 PM

How do you top: The Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, Sandman, and Venom in terms of visuals, power, and story potential?

In a twisted way, Venom is kind of a goldmine of potential, since most of Eddie's material is weak and could be rewritten to be better.

-Morzan

kansas boy

01-23-2007, 06:21 PM

I wouldn't make it so obivious that Doc Ock was back, I would leave clues behind for Spidey to figure out. The last and final clue would be an indentation of one of his tentacle claws somewhere, so when he sees it, he knows, and he starts to worry.

It would be more of a cameo, than anything else, 10-15 minutes tops. I would want to build up the suspense and surprise everybody. It would definitely have to do with Dr. Connors/The Lizard.

Visionary

01-23-2007, 06:58 PM

^Most people don't even know Venom is gonna be in this film,most people are gonna see spider-man 3 so they can see spider-man.
Exactly, most Venom fans have hyped Venom up so much, that they forgot who movie it is, idiots. :dry:

GoldGoblin

01-23-2007, 08:14 PM

Exactly, most Venom fans have hyped Venom up so much, that they forgot who movie it is, idiots. :dry:

^That is why I can't wait to see Venom die in this movie,because they want to see Venom be a hero fighting Carnage in SM4.They really have forgot whose movie this is.

Catman

01-24-2007, 01:32 PM

Its been some-what confirmed that the symbiote survives. . .so they are up to something.

DACrowe

01-24-2007, 04:05 PM

I say make 4 a lesson of him now being more resilent and less "green" as he was in the first two (and in the third it looks like he is getting his crap together but is becoming too arrogant and gets sidetracked with revenge) and in 4 he now has to save a villain instead of giving up on them (like he did for Norman and Otto). Enter Curt Conners, who has a wife and kids, like what Pete and MJ has.

He sees the strain that being "super-powered" can be and how it may ruin a family, even with good intentions. He must protect him from the police, himself and Kraven the Hunter, who is in town trying to kill him as a trophy. Give Kraven a new AND DEEPER backstory (like Sandman). And the Lizard is a dangerous monster that Pete must use his scientific know-how to save. At the same time Kraven is now hunting him and it becomes cat and mouse (before the climax it would be amazing if he got a dramatic buried alive sequence similar to Kill Bill Vol. 2 but straight out of Kraven's Last Hunt).

Have it end dark with Pete having given hope on Conners but after Aunt May dies, revealing she knew all along, he realizes he is a good man and just not for Uncle Ben, but for himself he cannot give up on Conners like he did on Norman, Otto and his failure to save Harry due to his own selfishness.

In the end Kraven kills himself after he is defeated (changing it a little) by the Spider and thinks he killed the Lizard. Spidey saves Conners and everything is okay.

Then for 5 I'd bring back the symbiote and perhaps it melds with a sociopath named Kassidy (I know they are different symbiotes in the comics but hey, you have to condense for movies)?

But after 4 it will get even harder to keep it on Peter's inner-struggles and he and MJ trying to make things work. In fact by 5, and especially 6, I could see them being forced to face the ultimatum of the comics that he either continues to grow (starts trying/does become a father) or remain in the boring status quo (what has been killing the comics for the last 10 years or so).

I think 4 or 5 would be good. 6 may be pushing it before it becomes Bond-ish and too episodic, I'm afraid though.

Arcturus

01-24-2007, 06:09 PM

I can't wait for Venom.

Catman

01-24-2007, 06:52 PM

Mr. Wooden Alligator

01-24-2007, 08:17 PM

There is NO WAY any other Spider-Man flicks can top Spider-Man 3. Period. Venom is there.

-Morzan

GoldGoblin

01-24-2007, 08:39 PM

There is NO WAY any other Spider-Man flicks can top Spider-Man 3. Period. Venom is there.

-Morzan

^That's what we thought after the first movie,after SM2,and we will think it again after SM3,but SM4 will top it.

Mr. Wooden Alligator

01-24-2007, 08:48 PM

^That's what we thought after the first movie,after SM2,and we will think it again after SM3,but SM4 will top it.

A philosophy I've come to adopt when it comes to Superheroes is that once they've faced their inner demons, there's not much more MOVIE potential left...btw, have u heard that Sam expressed interest in The Clone Saga?

-Morzan

Catman

01-24-2007, 10:53 PM

have u heard that Sam expressed interest in The Clone Saga?

-Morzan

Bull S--t!

Shifty

01-24-2007, 11:03 PM

A philosophy I've come to adopt when it comes to Superheroes is that once they've faced their inner demons, there's not much more MOVIE potential left...btw, have u heard that Sam expressed interest in The Clone Saga?

-Morzan

He didn't want Venom in Spider-Man 3 and Marvel wouldn't want the fan boys up in arms. Carnage has a better chance than any clones showing up.

Catman

01-24-2007, 11:52 PM

^ Exactly.

Arcturus

01-25-2007, 08:27 AM

In my honest opinion, I think Spider-Man 3 will be better then the first two. I mean we've got three villains, what appears to be another excellent plot etc. I hope to high heaven that they will be able to follow up in SM-4, but for me to form a complete opinion, i'll have to see Spider-Man 3 first.

Besides, when the times comes, we've got the likes of Lizard, Electro, Scorpion etc, can't go wrong with em. Im sure their are lots of stories to be told.

November Rain

01-25-2007, 09:15 AM

wow, if you think they can't top the stories already shown based on the decades of reference stories one could go on, then i really am quite surprised...

wow indeed.

i could top them in my sleep.

only five villains have been used and goblin and ock were used at their most basic forms, i doubt sandman is going to be terribly complex, hence why they are adding story history to him and harry is going to be different and venom is going to be limited (althouth he is a very limiting character, so that's not a problem).

I mean the whole of spidey's true psyche has yet to be revealed and let's not forget his relationship with jonah

a kraven lizard film could better what's been seen, setting up the chameleon being his son.

so could an accurate tale of the scorpion and jonah with an evil twist

and a god like being such as electro with low self confidence could also hold his own with cameos with the rhino or possibly the chameleon.

meh, those are all fare more interesting than a watered down gobby and ock, with angry spidey taking on some dude who wasn't anywhere near his uncle when he died.

:confused:

even as a fan, i've never sat down to a comic film and gone 'wow, nothing can top that'

as films, they are all very mediocre at telling good stories, which when their adaptive novels are compared to classic comic, they pale in comparison.

the true potential of a superhero film has yet to be reached and i fear due to the settling standards of a lot of people, they never really will be.

SpideyZERO

01-25-2007, 10:20 AM

To make Spider-Man 4 sucessful, Spidey must discover the spider within. The Other!

ManSpider412

01-25-2007, 11:37 AM

The first film was the origin of Spiderman, the 2nd was Spiderman giving up his powers and in the third him abusing those powers. Now the thread creator's idea of having the kingpin is a good one but so long as Sam Raimi is still directing these films I belive Peter will agin have to go through some sort of trial. This film could be about Peter in a race to clear his name, Maybe the public believe he killed Harry osborn and Norman. Possibly in some point in the film Peter goes to jail. Then Peter has to deal with his emotions in prison and possibly a villian could be out their tormenting MJ or May. When he breaks out Peter must clear his name and defeat that vilian(s)

Road Warrior

01-25-2007, 08:18 PM

Now the thread creator's idea of having the kingpin is a good one

Thanks. :yay:

but so long as Sam Raimi is still directing these films I belive Peter will agin have to go through some sort of trial. This film could be about Peter in a race to clear his name, Maybe the public believe he killed Harry osborn and Norman. Possibly in some point in the film Peter goes to jail. Then Peter has to deal with his emotions in prison and possibly a villian could be out their tormenting MJ or May. When he breaks out Peter must clear his name and defeat that vilian(s)

No. I want Spidey to become more active as a crimefigher. He always waits for something to happen. He needs to see a villain and track them down.

Mr Jide

01-26-2007, 04:01 AM

To make Spider-Man 4 sucessful, Spidey must discover the spider within. The Other!

Dont start. Knowing sony they'd probably think its a novel idea.

ManSpider412

01-26-2007, 09:43 AM

Thanks. :yay:

No. I want Spidey to become more active as a crimefigher. He always waits for something to happen. He needs to see a villain and track them down.

True. Maybe Spidey could fight Kingpin, chameleon ( employed by kingpin) and the Lizard. Still though these films are character driven so Peter needs to go through some emotional crap. Aunt May could fall ill I dunno but something like that is needed. do you agree?

Dangerous

01-26-2007, 10:34 AM

[It seems like Spider-Man 4 is pretty much confirmed. Now, the biggest question in my mind is how are they gonna follow-up the first trilogy? course.

It is not a trilogy since there will be a forth film dooder.
A trilogy denotes a set of 3, without a further instalment.

Catman

01-26-2007, 02:46 PM

these films are character driven so Peter needs to go through some emotional crap. Aunt May could fall ill I dunno but something like that is needed. do you agree?

But of course!

Hugebear

01-26-2007, 04:09 PM

They still have many villains left to choose from, so I think they can still top Spider-man 3.
As for the Chameleon, I prefer they use the Chameleon from Amazing Spider-man #1. Except, that he could be employed by HYDRA as a spy and maybe not be related to Kraven in the movies.

doomreaper X

01-26-2007, 04:47 PM

Seeing as Connors will be in SM3, I think there's a good chance the Lizard will be in SM4. The main SM4 villain is still up for grabs, though.

A return of Doc Ock would be awesome, as long as they don't screw him up. (ie, a scar or two from his 'demise' as opposed to, I dunno, him being horribly injured and fixing himself up with more robotic parts. :woot: )

Spiderine

01-28-2007, 11:45 AM

Kraven and Lizard. the end

Road Warrior

01-30-2007, 01:57 AM

Iceburgeruk

02-01-2007, 11:40 AM

There is NO WAY any other Spider-Man flicks can top Spider-Man 3. Period. Venom is there.

-Morzan

Yeah because venom is the be all and end all.

Can venom fly? (Vulture)
Can venom mess with spidey`s senses? (Mysterio)
Can venom be a symapthetic threat for spidey? (Lizard)
Can Venom be far stronger or faster than spidey?(Scorpion)
Can venom keep spidey literally at arms length? (Doc Ock Returns)

(SARCASM ENGAGED)Yeah venom is sooo cool they must stop the spidey films now they ahve done him.(SARCASM DISENGAGED)

I mean carnage is deadlier than venom even and he is s`posed to be venom`s son.