The man who laughs: The Joker thread

[Keyser Sushi]

the joker pic reminds me of the exorcist...
http://www.moviemachine.nl/images/articles/exorcist8.jpg

That picture reminds me of Gollum.

http://freak.blogs.sapo.pt/arquivo/gollum.jpg


Does that mean Gollum is the Joker? :huh:

[Eros]

No the joker pic reminds me a of a junkie, who decided to paint his face one night.

[Noir]

the joker pic reminds me of the exorcist...
http://www.moviemachine.nl/images/articles/exorcist8.jpg
Captain Howdy :D

Reminds me of Dafoe.

[breyfogle_rules]

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8163/heathh4.jpg

[Noir]

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8163/heathh4.jpg
OMGZ! ATTACK OF TEH ZOMBIE PIMPZ!!1!

[Tonight It Ends]

i think Nolan's Joker looks AMAZING!!!!! I LOVE IT!! It fits with the dark direction Nolan is going with. i mean c'mon what'd ya expect he was going to look like. a purple suit with a flower shooting out water. WE ALL KNEW he was goona look much, much more darker and sadistic. i for one think it looks amazing! Just when i thought i couldn't get any more excited about this frickin' movie, i was provin wrong! july 2008 can't come fast enough!!!! Nolan is a genius

[not_a_victim]

I would just like to point out that I was one of the few people who accurately predicted that Nolan was going with the "scarred" Joker concept. Normally, I would not boast about such a thing, but i was flamed pretty hard for pushing it.

[Obsidian]

I'd prefer it if the gash wasn't self-inflicted and rather a byproduct of some accident, which would further damage what's left of the Joker's stable mind. I've never really considered Joker as someone who would even try self-mutilation.

[LostSon88]

Well if the spoilers are true, its Batman who causes the gash across the Joker's lips (albiet inadvertantly).

[FlawlessVictory]

Well if the spoilers are true, its Batman who causes the gash across the Joker's lips (albiet inadvertantly).

Yup, I'm just as curious as to how he gets the white face and green hair.

[Obsidian]

Yup, I'm just as curious as to how he gets the white face and green hair.

they could bring up that Joker had vitiligo and just bleached his skin.....just like Michael Jackson

[Stanley Ipkiss]

Do any of u guys read The Mask

[not_a_victim]

Yup, I'm just as curious as to how he gets the white face and green hair.

Yeah, I wonder about that, too. I figured if Nolan was going for realism, the Joker would be very pale, and have the red around the eyes of a strung-out junkie. The whole white-face thing has me at a loss. Not saying I don't like it, just wondering how it's gonna fit in the storyline.
However, I now have hope that Two-Face won't have purple hair...

[TheBatman072]

Yup, I'm just as curious as to how he gets the white face and green hair.


I think he has it throughout the entire movie, and it's permanent. At least, that's what I've heard on here.

[LostSon88]

I'd rather they keep it ambigious. Makes it more interesting.

[not_a_victim]

I'd rather they keep it ambigious. Makes it more interesting.

Yeah, but it's also interesting when they can come up with realistic, reasonable ways that something like that could happen. If I see a guy who has white skin from the begining of the movie with no explanation, I feel kinda cheated. Now if he uses whiteface make up to cosmetically exagerrate the injuries that Batman gives him, I am a little more satiated.

[TheBatman072]

Yeah, but it's also interesting when they can come up with realistic, reasonable ways that something like that could happen. If I see a guy who has white skin from the begining of the movie with no explanation, I feel kinda cheated. Now if he uses whiteface make up to cosmetically exagerrate the injuries that Batman gives him, I am a little more satiated.


Well, Joker's skin is bleached white. And his hair is dyed green. Permanently. I think the only thing Nolan would mess with is the red lips. Which can be applied with make-up. As was done in The Dark Knight Returns.

[not_a_victim]

Well, Joker's skin is bleached white. And his hair is dyed green. Permanently. I think the only thing Nolan would mess with is the red lips. Which can be applied with make-up. As was done in The Dark Knight Returns.

With this new pic, I don't think we can make any assumptions about how this is going down. With the realism of the scarring, but the "painted" look of the white, black, and red on his face, I'm betting that he (the Joker) is using makeup to exagerrate his appearance. I don't think we are going to get the "chemical/acid bath" as an explanation of his appearance. The colors are too contrived to be anything done by accident, butt the scarring looks real.

[TheBatman072]

With this new pic, I don't think we can make any assumptions about how this is going down. With the realism of the scarring, but the "painted" look of the white, black, and red on his face, I'm betting that he (the Joker) is using makeup to exagerrate his appearance. I don't think we are going to get the "chemical/acid bath" as an explanation of his appearance. The colors are too contrived to be anything done by accident, butt the scarring looks real.


We don't have any reason to think that it's make-up either. Other then the red.

And a chemical bath wouldn't necessarily make his skin a clean, even white. I'm sure there would be some uneven spots here and there.

[dchisholm]

We don't have any reason to think that it's make-up either. Other then the red.

And a chemical bath wouldn't necessarily make his skin a clean, even white. I'm sure there would be some uneven spots here and there.

maybe he had the makeup on when he got thrown into the chemical bath and the chemicals burned the shape/color of the makeup onto his skin.

perhaps.

[Bandyt]

He could have been acid-ized....I've said it before, that bottom lip looks like it's...fused or melted down in some way...he have severe chemical burns and cover it up with makeup. The white looks like it's been applied on in my opinion...it's clagged and lumped up in some parts and has gone into some crevasses on his lips if you look closely. Call me whatever but the lips look like they could be his normal burned skin colour and the white applied around it....Or it could be makeup....we'll find out eventually.

[Crook]

Lol, reminds me of the age old question: Is a Zebra, black with white stripes, or white with black stripes?

:ninja:

[XXTBWCXX]

The Joker starts out in the movie with the make-up...there won't be a story behind it...only the story behind his gash; from a batarang.

[Bandyt]

White with black stripes. Tru Fax.

[Bandyt]

If you look at the pic it's undoubtful that a batarang could make a scar like that, it's too big and it's not one long gash, bits of his lips are still joined and some aren't.

[Mike_D202]

I like the look, but I think the pic is a little bland. I'll reserve my total judgement until I see him in different pics or on screen (he IS supposed to get more joker-ish over a period of time, maybe he goes to a plastic surgeon for the wound or something).

He wont be drinking anything citris-y for awhile, thats for sure.

[XXTBWCXX]

If you look at the pic it's undoubtful that a batarang could make a scar like that, it's too big and it's not one long gash, bits of his lips are still joined and some aren't.

Well that's what happens, I'm only spreading the word.

While he's trying to escape with his goons, he hoisters himself up on a wire to go to the building next to it, Batman throws his batarang, and the batarang mix with the wire slashes his face...could possibly be one side from the batarang and the other side from the wire.

[Crook]

That's basically just rumor at this point. I recall it being said that it was an idea thrown out there, and will not necessarily make it to the final cut.

[XXTBWCXX]

That's basically just rumor at this point. I recall it being said that it was an idea thrown out there, and will not necessarily make it to the final cut.

No...a poster made a thread giving out information about the movie.

[Mike_D202]

Oh geeze....everybody KNOWS that the reason he looks like that is because he dove into a steaming hot cherry pie.

[Crook]

No...a poster made a thread giving out information about the movie.
It was Miranda or Anjow, right? They BOTH said the idea wasn't final. :huh:

[Bandyt]

Hahah, a POSTER made it? Oh, it must be true then! How could we doubt something that was POSTED on a FORUM!

[DarkJester]

http://thejosheffect.com/images/random/jokermanipbyme.jpg

[hannya]

From all the spy reports, pics and general info:

1 - The Joker is grey. This tallies with a previous spy report when you look at the official pic; under the white make-up his skin looks mottled and grey-ish.
2 - He wears messy white and red make up on his face (and flesh-coloured make-up on his neck during the bank job).
3 - He has green hair, and a patchy brown dye-job for the bank robbery.
4 - His face is cut by the end of a loose cable, cut by Batman's batarang.
5 - He evens up the smile with a knife (this is PURE speculation by another poster but it makes sense).

I would say you can pretty much count on all of the above except (5).
If I'm wrong...
Bite me!:yay:

[hannya]

http://thejosheffect.com/images/random/jokermanipbyme.jpg
Bloody hell this frightened the life out of me

[Bandyt]

A combination of Face cutting and chemical burning mutilation-funness!! I like it!

[GREEN =w= DAY]

this Joker is gonna sooooo much ass!!!!

[not_a_victim]

I'm thinking more and more that the poster who said it was makeup is right on. I can see the make up being his disguise when he is out robbing banks, and then keeping it after his injury.

[not_a_victim]

From all the spy reports, pics and general info:

1 - The Joker is grey. This tallies with a previous spy report when you look at the official pic; under the white make-up his skin looks mottled and grey-ish.
2 - He wears messy white and red make up on his face (and flesh-coloured make-up on his neck during the bank job).
3 - He has green hair, and a patchy brown dye-job for the bank robbery.
4 - His face is cut by the end of a loose cable, cut by Batman's batarang.
5 - He evens up the smile with a knife (this is PURE speculation by another poster but it makes sense).

I would say you can pretty much count on all of the above except (5).
If I'm wrong...
Bite me!:yay:

This makes sense, as the pic shows grey patches under his right eye.
ALSO.... In that long-distance shot we saw a while back of a man in a purple suit w/green hair, I pointed out that the bottom 1/3 of his face seemed to be regular flesh colored. I postulated that this was so the appliance that would become the "smile" could be attached, or it had just been taken off. Looks like I was posibly right.

Now, the question is why in the world would he have grey skin?

[Keyser Soze]

This makes sense, as the pic shows grey patches under his right eye.
ALSO.... In that long-distance shot we saw a while back of a man in a purple suit w/green hair, I pointed out that the bottom 1/3 of his face seemed to be regular flesh colored. I postulated that this was so the appliance that would become the "smile" could be attached, or it had just been taken off. Looks like I was posibly right.

Now, the question is why in the world would he have grey skin?

Let's hope they keep that a secret... :cwink:

[dark_b]

ok one day after all thsi i like the look better.
it is extreme dark and scary. it looks very sick. he looks like a guy who wants to be a clow nbut is to ugly ;)

teh best thing about hes look is what people hate the most. the lipstick. i like how it looks like he did a terrible job. a psycho IMO.

i hope that this isnt just the angel. i hope that i will like him after i see him in the movie.

p.s. i have to admit that i had to get used to hes look. the first time i saw him i didnt like it. it was nto the perfect look for him. but thats normal after so many good manips that were posted here.

[ghost_x]

I've been thinking long and hard about the look over the weekend. Trying to figure out if I should be disapointed that it doesn't look like he was ripped from the comics. After deep thought I've come to the conlcusion that this is in fact a great movie Joker. Certain things need to be accounted for, before the people who dislike it make a final judgement. First and foremost we have to realise that this is just the face, and one aspect of the Joker that really completes his look is the hair and outfit. If people take a moment to think about this image with the green hair it really makes a difference to how the final look would look drastically improved. Antother factor that at first I was weary about but have grown to accept and to a degree like is the open wound on the cheeks. This is the Joker not Superman, no matter how much damage this man can cause, he is still essentially a human, if he gets injured he will have the scars and damage to prove it. Whatever caused the scars be it zip line etc will be intergral to the story, thus making it an extremely necessary factor of the look.

We need to wait for performance footage before we can moan about the look. I see nothing here that any fan of the classic Joker would really hate.

[dark_b]

ghost i agree.
plus is think the angles is perfect for teasing. that kind of angle doenst give you the right idea of how the face looks.
i think they spend hours to make the rihgt pic.

belive me guys when you will see hes face from a normal angle(side ,front) belive me it will look 100% different. of course the lipstick will be the same but the scar around hes mouth will be different.
fact is that some people dont have an idea how perspective works. i found that out when the 1. SR pic was realesed. it was all about the angle. the angle was the reason why the shield looekd so small.

[ghost_x]

I think minor grumbles get over analysed in still shots but flow and become more neutral in footage, so much so that people forget or don't care so much about it.

[dark_b]

I think minor grumbles get over analysed in still shots but flow and become more neutral in footage, so much so that people forget or don't care so much about it.
yes

plus people need to get used to something new. thats why it was a great idea to show this pic in may. in december people will get used to it.

[MJZ]

I really dig it. And I haven't received any spam, you cads...

[ghost_x]

It took over a year and a half for most people to get used to the new symbiote suit, and than people started to love it. So much so that when a picture was released of test shots of the classic comic look,people claimed to hating it and were relieved they got the movie version. Thats pretty ridiuclous.

[uchiha_itachi]

^ there was test shots of a comic version? i didnt see them :csad:

[ghost_x]

ye they were from the Production Art Book for Spiderman 3. Along with concept art of Vulture, who was originally intended as the villain instead of Venom. Apparantly Ben Kingsley had actually been chosen for the role when they decided to put Venom in.

[uchiha_itachi]

damn, i might have to see if i can find that. he would own as vulture:D

[ghost_x]

I still want Larry David for Vulture

[uchiha_itachi]

lol that would be funny

[ghost_x]

His moaning would really bring something to the Spiderman series. It'll be the first time Peter hasn't whined

[uchiha_itachi]

but then theres the danger you would get a scene with both of them trying to out whine each other..that would probly be there final fight

[3 Dev Adam]

Sorry, but judging by this image, this is the worst Joker concept ever. Even Cesar Romero was a better joker with the painted on moustache. Once agains, fans prove that they can do a better job than WB and their millions.


http://www.superherohype.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4589&stc=1&d=1179746824
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[uchiha_itachi]

^ but he looks un-realistic. just wait for footage til you judge properly.i have faith it will be great

[ghost_x]

Peter and Sandman basically outwhined eachother in the battle royale, so I suppose it couldn't be rehashed. What about a thumbwar?

[3 Dev Adam]

Unrealistic my ass. The nose bridge looks funny but I DO know people who look like Joker in real life, big nose and all.

And while we're at it, when we're talking about a traumatized rich kid who was trained by ninjas and dresses as a flying rodent to fight crime, "realistic" is NOT the operative word.

[ghost_x]

Ledger is going to own this role, I can promise it

[ghost_x]

There are far more ninja vigiliantes than clown anarchists

[Two-Face]

Sorry, but judging by this image, this is the worst Joker concept ever. Even Cesar Romero was a better joker with the painted on moustache. Once agains, fans prove that they can do a better job than WB and their millions.


http://www.superherohype.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4589&stc=1&d=1179746824
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That's just one picture, wait til you seen the movie.:whatever:

[regwec]

I can't be bothered to read all of the reactions to the "image", though I imagine that it is safe to say that many who would have deplored it were it crafted by a fan have had a Damascean conversion now that it is "official".

It looks dreadful. Not "alarming", or "different", or "shocking". Just...crap. The face looks fat, messy and somehow pathetic. The eyes are sleepy- there is no spark of intelligence there. The mouth is a mess, which I suppose it central to the concept, but it is actually just a distraction from the man behind it, which makes Ledger's job a lot more difficult. Why is their paint smeared around the mouth? What does that say about "The Joker's" character? That it is ruined.

I am truly, bitterly disappointed. This could not be any worse.

[Punch]

Sorry, but judging by this image, this is the worst Joker concept ever. Even Cesar Romero was a better joker with the painted on moustache. Once agains, fans prove that they can do a better job than WB and their millions.


http://www.superherohype.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4589&stc=1&d=1179746824
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4588&stc=1&d=1179746824
Thank God you're not making this film

[Mike_D202]

Unrealistic my ass. The nose bridge looks funny but I DO know people who look like Joker in real life, big nose and all.

And while we're at it, when we're talking about a traumatized rich kid who was trained by ninjas and dresses as a flying rodent to fight crime, "realistic" is NOT the operative word.

Oh jeeze, if you want something thats exactly like the comic/cartoon then go beg Aron Shonke (or whatever his last name is) or Sandy Collora to make another fan film, let Chris Nolan realize his vision.

I'm all for a realistic approach to Batman (well as realistic as you can get).

[dark_b]

I can't be bothered to read all of the reactions to the "image", though I imagine that it is safe to say that many who would have deplored it were it crafted by a fan have had a Damascean conversion now that it is "official".

It looks dreadful. Not "alarming", or "different", or "shocking". Just...crap. The face looks fat, messy and somehow pathetic. The eyes are sleepy- there is no spark of intelligence there. The mouth is a mess, which I suppose it central to the concept, but it is actually just a distraction from the man behind it, which makes Ledger's job a lot more difficult. Why is their paint smeared around the mouth? What does that say about "The Joker's" character? That it is ruined.

I am truly, bitterly disappointed. This could not be any worse.so this is hte worst joker that they could have done?

[regwec]

It's the worst it could be without a wilfull attempt at parody, yes.

[Hunter Rider]

I can't be bothered to read all of the reactions to the "image", though I imagine that it is safe to say that many who would have deplored it were it crafted by a fan have had a Damascean conversion now that it is "official".

It looks dreadful. Not "alarming", or "different", or "shocking". Just...crap. The face looks fat, messy and somehow pathetic. The eyes are sleepy- there is no spark of intelligence there. The mouth is a mess, which I suppose it central to the concept, but it is actually just a distraction from the man behind it, which makes Ledger's job a lot more difficult. Why is their paint smeared around the mouth? What does that say about "The Joker's" character? That it is ruined.


100% agreed

[uchiha_itachi]

Peter and Sandman basically outwhined eachother in the battle royale, so I suppose it couldn't be rehashed. What about a thumbwar?
that could work. and that just reminded me of a funni program i saw once called bat-thumb lol oooh now thats good comedy.

[uchiha_itachi]

Ledger is going to own this role, I can promise it

i have a hell of alot of faith that he will :woot:

[hannya]

It's the worst it could be without a wilfull attempt at parody, yes.

Oh! I think this really has split the vote straight down the middle. I love the concept, but I agree that the execution is puzzlingly low key. There was no need to reveal the Joker this early, and I would have preferred the promotion photograph to have been the cackling, demonic ledger Joker in all his glory. While I'm personally delighted by the design I think it's a shame that Nolan seems to have (deliberately?) disappointed a lot of fans. And I'm convinced now that he's chosen the gashed smile route because he couldn't get Sean Penn. Ledger doesn't look like the Joker, so he's changed the look of the Joker to compensate. To which I repeat for the umpteenth time: Ryan bloody Gosling!!!

[Two-Face]

You guys forgot Joker from The Batman, that's worse.

[Ultimate_Superman]

I like the Jokers look he reminds me alot like Supreme Powers Joker

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4589&stc=1&d=1179746824


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[Nepenthes]

I'm beginning to like it a lot more but ONLY on the condition that he won't look like that the entire film, and the scarring is subtle and flesh-toned underneath the make-up. We also don't know if his lips are permanently red under that make-up.

As an idea I think it's got a lot of legs, and will make a BIG impression on general audiences. It also can also be made to fit the character of the Joker quite nicely, despite the initial dissonance of scarring and messy make-up on the Joker. Remember we will probably get to the the 'classical' Joker before the mouth accident.

People should also accept that it IS a shiiity photograph taken on a weird angle with a deliberately vague lighting and posing.

[hannya]

People should also accept that it IS a shiiity photograph taken on a weird angle with a deliberately vague lighting and posing.

Yes, I think it's supposed to suggest he took it himself on a cellphone camera

[regwec]

People should also accept that it IS a shiiity photograph taken on a weird angle with a deliberately vague lighting and posing.

But it is all we have, and I think that it looks really, really dreadful. And neither the angle of the camera nor the brightness of the light alters the fact that a truly misguided concept lies beneath the makeup. All of the phoney leaked pictures were better than this, and I curse myself for assuming that Nolan would not be so arrogant as to ruin such a legendary character in such a ham fisted fashion.

I don't want to provoke a fight here, and I am genuinely pleased for those of you who like this concept (that is, those of you who instantly liked it, rather than felt that you had to find a way to live with it), but I have had all enthusiasm knocked right out of me. It really does seem to recall The Penguin in Batman Returns- an indulgent realisation of the sterile imagination of a complacent director.

The rule seems to be that we get one proper Batman film every eighteen years. I can only hope that I haven't outgrown this particular quirk of interest by the time I am 41...

[chrisguyver]

I can't be bothered to read all of the reactions to the "image", though I imagine that it is safe to say that many who would have deplored it were it crafted by a fan have had a Damascean conversion now that it is "official".

It looks dreadful. Not "alarming", or "different", or "shocking". Just...crap. The face looks fat, messy and somehow pathetic. The eyes are sleepy- there is no spark of intelligence there. The mouth is a mess, which I suppose it central to the concept, but it is actually just a distraction from the man behind it, which makes Ledger's job a lot more difficult. Why is their paint smeared around the mouth? What does that say about "The Joker's" character? That it is ruined.

I am truly, bitterly disappointed. This could not be any worse.

Oh boo hoo baby. I hate fanboys.

[Nepenthes]

There was no need to reveal the Joker this early,and I would have preferred the promotion photograph to have been the cackling, demonic ledger Joker in all his glory.

That would have made people happier but it also would have been kind of boring, predictable no? Even if this design only appears in one scene of the film (which I think it might e.g. a climax confrontation with Uber Joker) it's still a perfect teaser image for the reactions it provokes. Similair to BB's first image of the Tumbler it makes people think 'wtf are they doing here?'

[regwec]

Unanimous agreement and consensus is not condusive to good conversation: if you really "hate" those of us who may express discontent with certain artistic decisions taken by film makers, then I can only advise you that this message board may become an uncomfortable environment for you.

[dark_b]

i still think the lipstick is the best part of hes look.
i have an image in my head of joker infront of a mirror smiling like a psycho and putting lipstick on hes face.

[hannya]

That would have made people happier but it also would have been kind of boring, predictable no? Even if this design only appears in one scene of the film (which I think it might e.g. a climax confrontation with Uber Joker) it's still a perfect teaser image for the reactions it provokes. Similair to BB's first image of the Tumbler it makes people think 'wtf are they doing here?'

Well yes, but I feel a bit like I've opened my Christmas presents on December 23rd. I guess I shouldn't be on the boards at all!
:yay:
I agree that the idea was a good teaser concept, and as I said I love the design itself. But wouldn't you agree that it does seem like a deliberate two fingers up by Nolan to people who favour the "classic" look?

[Keyser Soze]

But it is all we have, and I think that it looks really, really dreadful. And neither the angle of the camera nor the brightness of the light alters the fact that a truly misguided concept lies beneath the makeup. All of the phoney leaked pictures were better than this, and I curse myself for assuming that Nolan would not be so arrogant as to ruin such a legendary character in such a ham fisted fashion.

I don't want to provoke a fight here, and I am genuinely pleased for those of you who like this concept (that is, those of you who instantly liked it, rather than felt that you had to find a way to live with it), but I have had all enthusiasm knocked right out of me. It really does seem to recall The Penguin in Batman Returns- an indulgent realisation of the sterile imagination of a complacent director.

The rule seems to be that we get one proper Batman film every eighteen years. I can only hope that I haven't outgrown this particular quirk of interest by the time I am 41...

What, are you saying you assumed Nolan wouldn't screw up? Are you saying you were actually optimistic before this? Funny, I seem to remember you being the resident malcontent in many a positive discussion, long before news of The Joker's appearance was leaked.

And once again, I find it hilarious that - based on a SET OF LIPS - Nolan suddenly becomes "arrogant", "ham fisted" and "complacent", and all of a sudden this isn't a "proper Batman film". Forget about the cast, the writing, the storyline, the OVERALL CHARACTERISATION of The Joker, all that stuff we've yet to see. The lips are wrong, and so Nolan has undone a decade-long career with a 100& hit rate and - more specifically - undone all the great work he did in "Batman Begins".

Me? I don't think the character is "ruined". He's different, yes. But look at the whole marketing campaign:

"It's like I always say, you don't know what a man's really made of until you peel away his face piece by piece."

"Trying to cheat a cheater? You make me smile."

"People always ask me about my charming, boyish smile. Jessica used to love it. She was the loneliest girl in high school, and my first big kiss..."

It's creepy. It's unnerving. It's The Joker. And though it's still too early to really tell, those initial lines of "dialogue" from The Joker seem to be an early indication that the personality of The Joker has been nailed. The Joker not looking how you like, and the character being "ruined", are two entirely different things.

[regwec]

What, are you saying you assumed Nolan wouldn't screw up? Are you saying you were actually optimistic before this? Funny, I seem to remember you being the resident malcontent in many a positive discussion, long before news of The Joker's appearance was leaked.

Then you remember selectively: I have been negative about some things an positive about many others. I think this is healthy. I have always described C. Nolan as a "good director".

And once again, I find it hilarious that - based on a SET OF LIPS - Nolan suddenly becomes "arrogant", "ham fisted" and "complacent", and all of a sudden this isn't a "proper Batman film". Forget about the cast, the writing, the storyline, the OVERALL CHARACTERISATION of The Joker, all that stuff we've yet to see. The lips are wrong, and so Nolan has undone a decade-long career with a 100& hit rate and - more specifically - undone all the great work he did in "Batman Begins".

Granted, but I do think that the image betrays many things about the character's core and self.

The Joker not looking how you like, and the character being "ruined", are two entirely different things.

Yes, I have already expressed my gladness that some of you do like it. I shall rephrase: The Joker has been ruined for me. I'm sure you knew that was what I meant, anyway.

[Mysterio]

How did Burton come up with Napier.Napier was the last name of the guy who played Alfred in the '60s tv show. i assume that's where he got it.

[ghost_x]

Alfred in the previous batman movies (Michael Godfrey, I think?) used to babysit my dad. Ironic huh.

[breyfogle_rules]

The image is growing on me. Thats the best I can say.
Now Anthony Michael Hall?
Why not just cast Ron Reagan Jr and Nia Peoples?

Cheapens the film for me bit.

I think since Nolan is British, he can't tell which American actors are schlock to a lot of people. Both Hall AND Roberts are television schlock.

How would you islanders like Benny Hill cast as Commisioner Gordon
even if he did a good job?

BUT STILL, I know I'm going to love this movie. As usual, all my issues are superficial. And I'm working on that.

Thank you.

[regwec]

As usual, all my issues are superficial. And I'm working on that.

I envy you, in a way. I don't see it as my job to try to force myself to like it. But I suppose you will enjoy the film more, so you win.

[FlawlessVictory]

New Heath Ledger Joker image is a fake!
The movie world is duped…again!
21 May 2007 11:34am

It was one of the biggest stories of the weekend, but we’ve got some bad news for Batfans – there’s plenty of evidence to suggest that the latest pic of Heath Ledger in his Joker guise is yet another fake.

If it is indeed a scam, it’s surely one of the most elaborate hoaxes in cinematic history, a gag worthy of the Clown Prince Of Crime himself.

If you haven’t already heard, here’s the story. At the weekend, what appeared to be a viral marketer littered a comic-book store in Southern California with playing cards, daubed with the phrase I Believe In Harvey Dent Too, a play on Warner Brothers’ official ibelieveinharveydent teaser site domain name.

Now, here’s where it gets really interesting. Fanboys who typed in ibelieveinharveydenttoo were sent to a new site, encouraging them to send off their email address, to receive a code which would allow them to gradually reveal a Bat-picture, hidden behind the official teaser.

Cleverly, whoever created the site (and we’ll prove in a moment that it wasn’t WB) didn’t announce that the image was Heath Ledger as the Joker, making fanboys even more desperate to see it.

Eventually – and trust us, it took a long time, suspicious in itself considering how many people were eventually attempting to reveal the image, once the word spread – this picture appeared.

Looks good, right? Well, before you get too overexcited, consider the following two points…

Warner Brothers’ first wave of this elaborate viral marketing campaign was to litter one comic-book store with home-made cards. Which is quite small-scale, even for a guerilla marketing campaign.

The official teaser’s full address is http://ibelieveinharveydent.warnerbros.com/, note the warnerbros part of the address. The Joker’s address? http://www.ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com/

Both facts were suspicious enough to peak our interest, but not conclusive. After all, even if Warners did litter only one comic-book store with cards, it worked. And perhaps they’d left the official branding off the new site to make it seem more anarchic, more Joker-esque.

Still, it was enough to make us dig further. And we didn’t like what we found.

A simple WHOIS search revealed that, whilst ibelieveinharveydent was registered by Warner Brothers on 11 May, ibelieveinharveydenttoo was created by a private registration company, Domains by Proxy, Inc. on 14 May. We doubt Warner Brothers would go that far to keep their part in the enterprise a secret (after all, we sort of know they'll be behind the eventual Joker reveal).

Which, obviously, is a massive disapointment. But still, keep your eye on Total Film for the first image of the real Joker. We won’t report it ‘til we’ve seen it.http://www.totalfilm.com/movie_news/new_heath_ledger_joker_image_is_a_fake! (http://www.totalfilm.com/movie_news/new_heath_ledger_joker_image_is_a_fake%21)

[Nepenthes]

I don't see it as my job to try to force myself to like it.

Ha you sound like my grandpa right there....he never liked colour television.

I agree that the idea was a good teaser concept, and as I said I love the design itself. But wouldn't you agree that it does seem like a deliberate two fingers up by Nolan to people who favour the "classic" look?

Yep, very deliberate, almost obnoxious. But then they did say they wanted something 'never before seen', it's like they're softening us up so we have time to get used to it.

[breyfogle_rules]

Breath with me Regwec.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:AD0KPJlQKbu56M:http://yoda.zoy.org/photos/2002/01-06-Asakusa/01-Buddha-VS-Pigeon.jpg

Breath.

[ghost_x]

I really don't understand how anyone could finalise a conclusion of the Joker so hastily from a single image. I think many assumed the first ever picture released of him would be a full on head/body shot, complete with everything typical of the Joker. Why would you want that? go look at an image from the comics for that kind of justification. We have been given an unexpected and frankly unique look at what to expect in TDK. It's a dodgy image, because it's meant to be, Nolan wouldn't release such a secretive factor of the movie without thought into fan reaction. He hasn't included the green hair for a reason, thats the defining feature of the character and releasing that would essentially spoil the suprise. The angle of the photo as well is confusing, what may appear, chubby or round is merely an illusion of the perspective.

I can understand the distaste for the picture, I really can, but I feel people are hating on it mainly because they were expecting a picture showing, 'the comic joker', something that won't be revealed till closer the release. As far as the character goes, filming has only just begun and we have already got a solid idea that the personality and traits have been nailed, just from a few lines of promotion.

[ghost_x]

Since the images release, all those factors pointing to it being fake have been considered, and totalfilm has told us nothing new, nor has it got evidence that it is a fake, just speculation.

Until they get solid information they shouldn't post fake news

[FlawlessVictory]

I can understand the distaste for the picture, I really can, but I feel people are hating on it mainly because they were expecting a picture showing, 'the comic joker', something that won't be revealed till closer the release. As far as the character goes, filming has only just begun and we have already got a solid idea that the personality and traits have been nailed, just from a few lines of promotion.

Very true.

[regwec]

I really don't understand how anyone could finalise a conclusion of the Joker so hastily from a single image.

Because that single image is almost triumphantly crap.

[dark_b]

i am not suprised that we got the news that it is fake.
there is no way that this si fake.

[Nepenthes]

We doubt Warner Brothers would go that far to keep their part in the enterprise a secret (after all, we sort of know they'll be behind the eventual Joker reveal).

You doubt it?

Gee guys, you really busted that one :down People here spotted the proxy on the first night.



The site handled a MASSIVE amount of traffic. I don't know much about web design but that usually means there's a bit of money behind the site right? Why didn't it freeze?

IT'S REAL. GO CRY IN YOUR SOUP, REGWEC :cwink:

[Batman FREAK]

Why are people still in denial that it's real? It's one pic that doesn't show THAT much yet...don't pass judgment so quickly.

[union_jak]

That Total Film hasn't done its homework. ibelieveinharveydenttoo was registered before anyone knew about ibelieveinharveydent, so the faker had to be psychic.

[Batman FREAK]

^ Like I said...."Denial". :whatever:

[ghost_x]

Because that single image is almost triumphantly crap.

I can see it may not represent what you would like to see in a Joker, but to label the image as crap is far and along a bold and exagerrated statement. The picture is a teaser, they have witheld the hair and the suit particuarly because they didn't want to reveal to much. We are still a year away.

[regwec]

IT'S REAL. GO CRY IN YOUR SOUP, REGWEC :cwink:

I haven't claimed otherwise. Go and masturbate into yours.

[fabman]

Also, the site was done by the same guys that did interactive websites for Warner Bros.' A.I.

[Mysterio]

Ironic huh.not really, Alanis.

[hannya]

http://www.totalfilm.com/movie_news/new_heath_ledger_joker_image_is_a_fake! (http://www.totalfilm.com/movie_news/new_heath_ledger_joker_image_is_a_fake%21)

Blimey O'Reilly!!! This is fabulous stuff.
Firstly, Total Film is going way, way out on a limb here. If they're wrong, which they ARE, they are going to look pretty damned stupid.
Secondly, WTF??? A faked Ledger as Joker pic which is OBVIOUSLY LEDGER???
Which means Ledger participated in the scam? Excellent!!! Even better! Maybe the whole movie isn't really being made, it's just a huge practical joke by... oh wait, hang on a minute.
Seriously, come on guys. It's Ledger. It's the Joker. Deal with it. So WB didn't use a WB domain. And? Isn't that the point? It's SUPPOSED TO BE A MOCK GUERILLA CAMPAIGN BY THE JOKER!!!

[Octoberist]

im still shocked at the mix response, even to this very day. It's not 'classic' JOker, but I think people are overreacting. I just hope that some of these 'angry' people don't ruin the vibe for Dark Knight, you know? And in many ways, it's a vicious circle anyway, and when the movie comes out, it'll play a different and more positive tune.

I mean, as a whole, the design of the make-up is cool.

[regwec]

I can see it may not represent what you would like to see in a Joker, but to label the image as crap is far and along a bold and exagerrated statement. The picture is a teaser, they have witheld the hair and the suit particuarly because they didn't want to reveal to much. We are still a year away.

Yes, yes. Look, will it really make a difference to you if I type "IMO" after every sentence? I will do that for you, if needs must.

[ghost_x]

not really, Alanis.

Ya really, owl.

[Mysterio]

http://www.totalfilm.com/movie_news/new_heath_ledger_joker_image_is_a_fake! (http://www.totalfilm.com/movie_news/new_heath_ledger_joker_image_is_a_fake%21)what an idiot. (the author of that, not you Flawless)

[Octoberist]

Yes, yes. Look, will it really make a difference to you if I type "IMO" after every sentence? I will do that for you, if needs must.

You're fine.

at least you're not like "I hate teh Joka, tha movi is goin' to sux". Those peole bother me b/c they're lifeless fanboys.

[FlawlessVictory]

Blimey O'Reilly!!! This is fabulous stuff.
Firstly, Total Film is going way, way out on a limb here. If they're wrong, which they ARE, they are going to look pretty damned stupid.
Secondly, WTF??? A faked Ledger as Joker pic which is OBVIOUSLY LEDGER???
Which means Ledger participated in the scam? Excellent!!! Even better! Maybe the whole movie isn't really being made, it's just a huge practical joke by... oh wait, hang on a minute.
Seriously, come on guys. It's Ledger. It's the Joker. Deal with it. So WB didn't use a WB domain. And? Isn't that the point? It's SUPPOSED TO BE A MOCK GUERILLA CAMPAIGN BY THE JOKER!!!

Oh yea, I totally think it's real. I just thought the fact that website is pointing out that it's a fake is interesting/funny.

[Mysterio]

Ya really, owl.uh, no. coincidence? yes. irony? no.

[hannya]

Civil war in the fanboy dimension. This is the most fun I've had in ages!

[FlawlessVictory]

what an idiot. (the author of that, not you Flawless)

Edit.

[ghost_x]

Yes, yes. Look, will it really make a difference to you if I type "IMO" after every sentence? I will do that for you, if needs must.

Yes it would, if it would mean you could learn to accept the backlash for your comments, rather than repeatedly side stepping them by keep saying it is your opinion rather than a general consensus.

[ghost_x]

uh, no. coincidence? yes. irony? no.

I'd consider art imitating life, ironic, so ye?

[breyfogle_rules]

Ha you sound like my grandpa right there....he never liked colour television.

Funny.

Alas. A fellow Hypster is suffering. Regwec is giving a cry for help.
The way I got my head to a place where I was cool with this official image was quite easy, inspite of my ranking it a 2 on a scale of 10.

In a word - "Jonathan".

Where Chris fails, his brother will pick up the slack. The real Joker is going to come alive in those literary in-between places. He lives in the Arkham font we saw on the playing cards and the so far pretty spot on character lines we got from the viral site. If the things he says and dooes are actually really funny and actually really scary in this movie then this look will work just fine.
A John Wayne Gacy painting.
Also, if he looked like an Alex Ross Joker, we would like him too much and root for him. The pretty one in this movie should be Bats. Joker should be a piece of sh** that we really want to see destroyed.

To this end, I believe I will be stimulated to a beautiful frontier of pleasure.

Won't you join me? Dear friends...

[regwec]

Yes it would, if it would mean you could learn to accept the backlash for your comments, rather than repeatedly side stepping them by keep saying it is your opinion rather than a general consensus.
I have never once claimed that mine was the majority view. It has always been quite clear to me that most people here would lap up anything whatsoever that was done to the Batman mythos in a film. I am shocked at how poor (imo - there you go) the Joker concept is, but I am not in the least surprised that it is being lapped up in the same way as all the fake pictures that preceeded it.

[union_jak]

I'd consider art imitating life, ironic, so ye?
So how is your little trivia imitated then?

[Kleric]

I feel for you regwec. You are a passionate fan and have every right to your opinion.

I too am disappointed. I feel that this type of Joker ignores some of the core aspects of the character that I enjoy. Similar to the "circus" raggy Joker in "The Batman" cartoon.

However that being said the small snippet of character dialogue has me believing the the charterer interpretation is very close if not dead on!
There were some visual aspects that I did not love in Begins but every character was spot on so this does bode well for J man.

[ghost_x]

So how is your little trivia imitated then?

You can't see how the guy that once looked after children in reality, and became a servant/carer in a film imitated?

[The-Dark-Knight]

Napier was the last name of the guy who played Alfred in the '60s tv show. i assume that's where he got it.

your half right, his name jack napier is also a play on the words jack a napes.

[union_jak]

You can't see how the guy that once looked after children in reality, and became a servant/carer in a film imitated?
Right, I see now. That's not irony. Irony could be if you became his real life butler, given that he was famous for playing one. Either way, it's off topic...

[union_jak]

your half right, his name jack napier is also a play on the words jack a napes.
Alan Napier, who played Alfred died just before B89 was filmed, the name was used as a tribute.

[ghost_x]

I have never once claimed that mine was the majority view. It has always been quite clear to me that most people here would lap up anything whatsoever that was done to the Batman mythos in a film. I am shocked at how poor (imo - there you go) the Joker concept is, but I am not in the least surprised that it is being lapped up in the same way as all the fake pictures that preceeded it.

I didn't mean that you said your views are the general consensus, but thats what you were accusing others of saying to you, which is why twice you said 'should I say IMO'.

Do you know how bitter and ignorant you sound by claiming that because other people like what you dislike they are merely 'lapping it up' and can't have a thought process to actually relish in the quality of the image. I can assure that in regard to how my beloved comic books are translated, I am the first to scrutinize and analyse in an attempt to justify an aspect that doesn't accurately relate to it's source, but I can fish out what is altered for story purposes and what is changed merely to update a look to fit in with the films tone, and this image serves every purpose with in the context of the movie.

[hannya]

I am not in the least surprised that it is being lapped up in the same way as all the fake pictures that preceeded it.

Oh, regwec! Come on old chap. We're not all mindless Nolan hangers-on with no class. It's the spirit of adventure...
As you're the torch-bearer (no pun intended :cwink: ) for advocates of the classic look, I want to ask you a couple of questions. Indulge me, I think the questions are interesting.
1) Who was your first choice casting for the Joker?
2) What, if any, explanation/origin did you want for the white skin/green hair (I'm guessing Red Hood back story) ?
3) Who would your first choice director be for a film which told the classic Batman V Joker story, with production design that honoured the comic books as far as possible?
If this is re-treading old ground, then... like I said, humour me :yay:

[The-Dark-Knight]

^^yeah i know, thats why i said half right, the name though was also a play on the word jackanapes, but imot disagreeing with the fact he was also named after actor alan napier.

[ghost_x]

Right, I see now. That's not irony. Irony could be if you became his real life butler, given that he was famous for playing one. Either way, it's off topic...

You do realise that there are other forms of irony. I would also like to point out that this is not Batman 89 nor is Ledger playing Jack Napier, so please correct me if I'm using the wrong term, but I would consider that hypocrisy.

Now before you get all up in arms about this, I would recommend taking your own advice, before this becomes a 'real off topic' discussion

[breyfogle_rules]

I feel for you regwec. You are a passionate fan and have every right to your opinion.

I too am disappointed. I feel that this type of Joker ignores some of the core aspects of the character that I enjoy. Similar to the "circus" raggy Joker in "The Batman" cartoon.

However that being said the small snippet of character dialogue has me believing the the charterer interpretation is very close if not dead on!
There were some visual aspects that I did not love in Begins but every character was spot on so this does bode well for J man.

Love it. Preach on.

[regwec]

Do you know how bitter and ignorant you sound by claiming that because other people like what you dislike they are merely 'lapping it up' and can't have a thought process to actually relish in the quality of the image.

If this was an isolated incident, then I would make no such criticism. As it is, every image, leak or snippet that proports to be genuine is treated with exactly this kind of blanket acclaimation, even if they echo ideas that were poo-pooed when mooted by other fans.

I am quite prepared to believe that some people really do like it, and I believe you, too. You got what you wanted- congratulations.

[union_jak]

You do realise that there are other forms of irony. I would also like to point out that this is not Batman 89 nor is Ledger playing Jack Napier, so please correct me if I'm using the wrong term, but I would consider that hypocrisy.

Now before you get all up in arms about this, I would recommend taking your own advice, before this becomes a 'real off topic' discussion
Hey it wasn't me who started talking about Napier, I just responded and I wasn't attacking, just pointing out we were distracting from the main discussion.

[ghost_x]

Reg I just wrote a length reply to your post, but the quick automatic log out time for the hype got rid of it, and I definietly can't be bothered to write it again. We'll just have to leave the discussion here.

[breyfogle_rules]

If this was an isolated incident, then I would make no such criticism. As it is, every image, leak or snippet that proports to be genuine is treated with exactly this kind of blanket acclaimation, even if they echo ideas that were poo-pooed when mooted by other fans.

I am quite prepared to believe that some people really do like it, and I believe you, too. You got what you wanted- congratulations.

FINALLY! A name for my memoirs.

"Poo-Pooed When Mooted"

[regwec]

1) Who was your first choice casting for the Joker?
2) What, if any, explanation/origin did you want for the white skin/green hair (I'm guessing Red Hood back story) ?
3) Who would your first choice director be for a film which told the classic Batman V Joker story, with production design that honoured the comic books as far as possible?
If this is re-treading old ground, then... like I said, humour me :yay:

1) Christoper Eccleston. A damn fine actor.

2) I didn't want an explanation. I like The Joker's classical appearance, but agree that it is not realistic. I thought that the best solution was not to address the issue at all, rather than alter the character or his appearance.

3) Well, I would have said Christopher Nolan. This somehow seems out of character for him. I wouldn't have guessed that he would misjudge a character by toning it up, rather than down.

[ghost_x]

Christopher Eccleston I think is far too old looking.

I want Joker to be Batman's equal in as many ways as possible, so I feel Joker should be of a similar age to Bruce. Also you have to remember this is still in the Begins timeline, so the characters are all essentially younger. That's particuarly why I was a fan of Ryan Phillipe for Dent, I always saw TDK as introducing Harvey as the young hotshot D.A.

[hannya]

1) Christoper Eccleston. A damn fine actor.

2) I didn't want an explanation. I like The Joker's classical appearance, but agree that it is not realistic. I thought that the best solution was not to address the issue at all, rather than alter the character or his appearance.

3) Well, I would have said Christopher Nolan. This somehow seems out of character for him. I wouldn't have guessed that he would misjudge a character by toning it up, rather than down.

Can't argue with that :up:
EXCEPT Peter Weir to direct :yay:

[LexCorp]

No silly enhancements.

His smile needs to be all natural.

Yep I agree all natural and it will be. No point putting in the effort.

[HandsomePETE]

$200 Million surprise?

am i the only one here thinking that Ledger is just a decoy and that Anthony Michael Hall will end up being the real Joker?

.... another "Ra's Al Ghul surprse", anyone?

[ghost_x]

I think everyone who has read his script, we can all agree that Frank Miller's interpretation would be a no no.

[Nepenthes]

I haven't claimed otherwise.

Didn't mean to say that you did.

Go and masturbate into yours.

Damn you're cranky...you must of missed the cwink:.

[ghost_x]

hey if I felt someone butchered a beloved characcter of mine, I would be pissed as well. You should of seen me the time when they released the first image of Green 'Norman' Goblin, I was punching babies all over the place

[Nepenthes]

^ Of course Regwec is allowed to be cranky. I wouldn't begrudge him that.

He is an old man after all :oldrazz:



EDIT:
yeah. Green Goblin. It was around then I decided to 'grow up' and leave comics and superheroes behind. Took me years to recover. Damn costume.

[jsf]

$200 Million surprise?

am i the only one here thinking that Ledger is just a decoy and that Anthony Michael Hall will end up being the real Joker?

.... another "Ra's Al Ghul surprse", anyone?

... a younger Ra's Al Ghul?

[ghost_x]

^ Talia?

[ghost_x]

^ Of course Regwec is allowed to be cranky. I wouldn't begrudge him that.

He is an old man after all :oldrazz:



EDIT:
yeah. Green Goblin. It was around then I decided to 'grow up' and leave comics and superheroes behind. Took me years to recover. Damn costume.

I've had 6 years of intense psychological shock therapy, and still the image is burnt in my brain.

[breyfogle_rules]

hey if I felt someone butchered a beloved characcter of mine, I would be pissed as well. You should of seen me the time when they released the first image of Green 'Norman' Goblin, I was punching babies all over the place

Yes, that was unforgivable.

In fact, I will say that as upset as I am with Heath's look it is not as bad as Raimi's rape of the goblin. At least you can see Heaths face.
Raimi would have put joker in a big, clunky mask-helmet that looked like a clown power ranger.

And (please don't start on this guys) I'm even less upset about Heath's look than Nicholson. Nicholson had a big pregnant gut...looked like tweedle dee to me.

Basically on a scale of 1 - 10 (looks alone)
Raimi Goblin: 1
B89 Joker: 3
Nolan joker: 4

IN MY OPINION!

[ghost_x]

I have to agree on all points, I can see where Raimi was going with GG and the whole Goblin suit being a Soliders armour, but something along the way messed up, and in the end the most appropiate and realistic option would be to approach the traditional look.

Nicholson although delivering a perfect performance, did look odd at times and resembled BoBo the clown rather than Joker the clown prince of crime.

I think Ledger in full get up will knock this one out the park

[ghost_x]

Also, and I know this is a horrible and ruthless comparison, and I'm not even 100% certain, but in Batman and Robin Schumacher, there was a gang who dressed in neon (no suprise there), and I believe the leader had a skull mask. If i remember it actually closely resembles Ledger's Joker.

If anyone could find a picture that would be fantastic.

[hannya]

You know you guys should have seen this coming. How can you be upset with Ledger's look when he doesn't, has never, and never will, look like the Joker? Honestly, once he was cast, what were you expecting? A prosthetic chin? Lord have mercy.
Nolan has cast someone who looks nothing like the Joker, and his decision is based purely on the kinetic energy this particular actor can bring to the role. So when you think about it, the make-up is a minor concern. I thought the Batman Begins batsuit was a pile of ****e, but I liked Bale's take on Bruce Wayne. See where I'm going with this?

[ghost_x]

I think alot of people were thinking that he would have a prosthetic nose and chin. I agree with you entirely, the idea of unexpected casting is to suprise the audience with something sporadic and unique, I would rather have a new take on the Joker rather than a rehash starring Crispin Glover, merely because he resembles the Joker.

[itsthebatman]

1) Christoper Eccleston. A damn fine actor.

2) I didn't want an explanation. I like The Joker's classical appearance, but agree that it is not realistic. I thought that the best solution was not to address the issue at all, rather than alter the character or his appearance.

3) Well, I would have said Christopher Nolan. This somehow seems out of character for him. I wouldn't have guessed that he would misjudge a character by toning it up, rather than down.
Hi Reg. Man, you're in a bad mood. I can see why. I'm not thta fond of the look, it looks too messy, grotesque and over-the-top (which, as you say, is unusual for Nolan). But this is the first photo, and is not a shot of him in all his glory. We haven't seen the hair, we haven't seen the costume, and it's still early days to call it. At least you've got 14 months to get used to the look! So the baby remains with the bathwater... for the time being.

[ghost_x]

What's all this talk of babies and bathwater, your going to get some hypesters excited :oldrazz:

[kenellard]

I've noticed alot of posters commenting on the vibe from the joker pic, that he's going to be a more creepy and sadistic character and so on, but my point is that no matter what he looks like these should be elements of his persona. Even in his usual "comic" guise the joker is grotesque, just not in such and obvious, and in my opinion, cheap way. I believe if there was one place in Nolan's world where he was going to offer up something of the fantastical, it really should've been with the joker

[Nepenthes]

You know you guys should have seen this coming. How can you be upset with Ledger's look when he doesn't, has never, and never will, look like the Joker? Honestly, once he was cast, what were you expecting? A prosthetic chin? Lord have mercy.
Nolan has cast someone who looks nothing like the Joker, and his decision is based purely on the kinetic energy this particular actor can bring to the role. So when you think about it, the make-up is a minor concern. I thought the Batman Begins batsuit was a pile of ****e, but I liked Bale's take on Bruce Wayne. See where I'm going with this?

Heath ledger is a real person, the Joker is a drawing. Is Heath tall? Check? Have an evil grin? Check. Can he wear make-up? Check. Amamizing actor? Check check check. The rest is meaningless. The Joker is NOT defined by a bony face structure and a lanky frame, really dude.

[breyfogle_rules]

Heath ledger is a real person, the Joker is a drawing. Is Heath tall? Check? Have an evil grin? Check. Can he wear make-up? Check. Amamizing actor? Check check check. The rest is meaningless. The Joker is NOT defined by a bony face structure and a lanky frame, really dude.

Aw man. I was SO with you until you said "dude".

"Dude" is like one one click under "bro" on the insult scale!

[breyfogle_rules]

Hey, can anyone tell me who has been doing the awsome black and white covers for Detective recently?

[3 Dev Adam]

That's just one picture, wait til you seen the movie.:whatever:

So? I saw BATMAN BEGINS and that awful rubber suit a la cockroach meets Robocop annoyed the hell out of me from beginning to end. No matter how good Bareback Hedger is going to be as The Joker, his looks will still look like crap to me til the end of days.

[bobguy64]

I've read little excerpts (you all probably have, too) about how Heath Ledger has gone on record about the Joker. The main thing Heath and Nolan have been stressing is HIS EYES.

What I've always thought was creepiest about the Joker is that the smile on his face is frozen (going all the way to 'The Man who Laughs') and his eyes are DEAD. Lifeless. Evil.

This makes the smile ironic and scary as hell.

This is also a Joker we haven't seen yet. Jack Nicholson was great, but this is going all the way back to the very beginning.

Another broad, flamboyant Joker characterization would be suicide for any actor (countless Nicholson comparisons) and death for Nolan (no originality).

I really feel good about this. I think we're in for a wild ride. A brand new Joker that's true to his roots.



bobguy

[Crook]

Another broad, flamboyant Joker characterization would be suicide for any actor (countless Nicholson comparisons)
That's not going to stop anyone from comparing him to Nicholson. Ledger will be the 3rd live-action Joker in about 40 years the character has been on-screen. Comparisons are unavoidable.

and death for Nolan (no originality)
Because we all know Nolan was crucified the first time for utilizing many elements from the comics, and is doing the same for the story of TDK...

[regwec]

Hi Reg. Man, you're in a bad mood. I can see why. I'm not thta fond of the look, it looks too messy, grotesque and over-the-top (which, as you say, is unusual for Nolan). But this is the first photo, and is not a shot of him in all his glory. We haven't seen the hair, we haven't seen the costume, and it's still early days to call it. At least you've got 14 months to get used to the look! So the baby remains with the bathwater... for the time being.

You've been missed, old boy. What you say is all very rational and fair, but I can't escape a sensation of crushing disappointment. It will be hard for me to recover enthusiasm for the whole movie after this. Oh well. We may be getting a Spirit film in a few years! :)

[Mike_D202]

Good design, Bad picture. Period.

Nobody needs to be writing essays saying how "Chris Nolan raped my childhood!" because we dont see him smiling, wearing the cloths, heck we dont even see his hair!

Jeeze.

[Agentsands77]

That's not going to stop anyone from comparing him to Nicholson. Ledger will be the 3rd live-action Joker in about 40 years the character has been on-screen. Comparisons are unavoidable.
Sure, but there's been consensus that Ledger's Joker needed to set itself apart from Nicholson's Joker, both visually and in personality, so it didn't seem like a shameless retread. After all, there's no point in re-doing the Joker unless you're going to bring something new.

[Crook]

Sure, but there's been consensus that Ledger's Joker needed to set itself apart from Nicholson's Joker, both visually and in personality, so it didn't seem like a shameless retread. After all, there's no point in re-doing the Joker unless you're going to bring something new.
I saw a consensus in a Joker that set itself apart from the others in the same vain as Bale with Keaton, and Craig with Brosnan.

Not once did I read a huge vote in favor of making Joker's look completely different than Nicholson and Romero. Deviations so it'd stand on it's own, yes, but not this.

[Agentsands77]

I saw a consensus in a Joker that set itself apart from the others in the same vain as Bale with Keaton, and Craig with Brosnan.
Eh, there was a lot of deviation in that. There was a consensus that the Joker had to set itself apart, but there was a lot of discussion as to how. That discussion has now spilled over into this debate.

Not once did I read a huge vote in favor of making Joker's look completely different than Nicholson and Romero. Deviations so it'd stand on it's own, yes, but not this.
Well, Ledger's Joker is hardly completely different than those other two. They share the basics - white skin, red lips, green hair. Okay, we've got to that point.

Now, Nicholson. Obviously, this Joker does not have the same style as Nicholson. But Nicholson's Joker also had a scarred smile, and the script called for facial scarring along the cheeks. A permasmile Joker also had no precedent in the history of the character.

As for Romero, I'd say Ledger's Joker compares favorably. Ledger's Joker is like the darker, grittier cousin of the Romero look. Romero looked very clownish, with a broadly drawn red smile that extended beyond the corners of his cheeks. Well, Ledger's Joker face does just that... it extends beyond the cheeks and ends in clown-like dots.

[Batman jr.]

First of all, I don't want to see anymore Brosnan vs Craig threads or posts, I think I've read about 10000 of them, all with the same BS. 95% of those posters haven't seen all the previous Bonds, that's what I still think.

Second, I'm starting to really like this Joker look, and I think this is not the way we'll see him first. It looks like he's "gashed", after his first encounter with Batman? As long has he has green hair & acts like Joker, it's all fine with me.

Third, some fanboys still think that Nicholson IS the Joker, he can't do anything wrong. Even today, I read remarks on the IMDB boards that Ledger is actually gay and that he'll never be able to play Joker. WTF ?

I keep saying that during the entire run of the Batman comics, Joker has changed more than once. Is it so hard to realise that there is no "ultimate Joker" ? I'm starting think that Arkham asylum serves as a huge inspiration for this movie, and he sure looks freaky in that one, but it's just one comicbook out of a ton others.

Fourth: see also my first statement. Yes, Aaron Eckhart is blonde. So what ???

[itsthebatman]

You've been missed, old boy. What you say is all very rational and fair, but I can't escape a sensation of crushing disappointment. It will be hard for me to recover enthusiasm for the whole movie after this. Oh well. We may be getting a Spirit film in a few years! :)
Thank you for your kind opening statement:yay: . Rational and fair is what I do - my other half complains I do it too much, that I should go nuts more often. I also try to be an optimistic chap, so I'm gonna see what other snippets we get (new Batsuit, modified Tumbler, more Dent stuff) before getting too upset. And if your expectations have been considerably lowered by this news, how great would it be if the movie excels in all other departments and cancels out that disappointment about his look?

[breyfogle_rules]

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[JackBauer24]

$200 Million surprise?

am i the only one here thinking that Ledger is just a decoy and that Anthony Michael Hall will end up being the real Joker?

.... another "Ra's Al Ghul surprse", anyone?

Well here's a 3 minute manip that already looks better than the official Ledger photo!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/JackBauer24/jokerother.jpg

[Batman jr.]

Good design, Bad picture. Period.

Nobody needs to be writing essays saying how "Chris Nolan raped my childhood!" because we dont see him smiling, wearing the cloths, heck we dont even see his hair!

Jeeze.

I totally agree!

[itsthebatman]

The hidden message is 'See you in December'. Sound familiar?

[itsthebatman]

The hidden message is 'See you in December'. Sound familiar?

[Agentsands77]

The hidden message is 'See you in December'. Sound familiar?
Yeah. But what does that mean for the site?

[mad-sci]

HA!!!!


The EXACT same message in that 'fake' TDK side (on 1st April), which everyone assumed was fan-made. Suggests its more legit.


Looks like you should expect the next wave of marketing (teaser trailer) in December... excluding the Comic-Con in July (posters/cast interviews MINIMUM).

[batman11]

Where do you see the December message, all I see is hahahahha????

[Robin91939]

Yes...I was just going to say:
Some one dig up that Casting side that said "see you in December".

This film is turning into the sequel to the Da Vinci Code. And becoming worse than the "there's something in the eye" arguements at the Spider-man boards...cause there actually are secret codes now.

So, does this mean we'll get a teaser with the Joker in December? What's WB's biggest film in December that they'd attach it with?

-R

[regwec]

HA!!!!


The EXACT same message in that 'fake' TDK side (on 1st April), which everyone assumed was fan-made. Suggests its more legit.

Er...actually, that side was so badly written it was barely legible. I think that a connection between it and the dreadful image weakens the case for the latter, rather than strengthens the case for the former.

[mad-sci]

I think the next MAJOR update to the site will be in December.

Think teaser poster/teaser trailer.

There'll probably be more released inbetween, but don't expect anything BIG officially until then.


As for the April 1st side, reading the first words down the unintelligent side gave the message "See You in December". The side was assumed to be released by WB, this site IS WB (too much support to not be fake), therefore the message is real.

[strikezone89]

i like the teasers.

[Two-Face]

Love that Joker :joker: now it says "Page not found"

[breyfogle_rules]

The hidden message is 'See you in December'. Sound familiar?
Familiar from where?

[mad-sci]

^

The 'fake' April 1st side.

[ghost_x]

Has WB given the seal of authenticity yet, because if this is fake, it's the best promotion ever conjured up.

[Mysterio]

Er...actually, that side was so badly written it was barely legible. I think that a connection between it and the dreadful image weakens the case for the latter, rather than strengthens the case for the former.then you missed the point. the writing was just a means for hiding the message. obviously, there is a connection and obviously, the side is legit.

[Mysterio]

Has WB given the seal of authenticity yet, because if this is fake, it's the best promotion ever conjured up.no, and i don't expect them to. it would ruin it if they did.

[Anjow1060]

someone post the fake side please?

[riskproductions]

OK THIS DESERVES A NEW THREAD. If every little detail about the Joker goes into this thread theres only going to be one thread in this forum. I really dont want to have to sift through 6500 posts to find info on stuff like the hahahahaha page. Mods please stop closing threads already

[FlawlessVictory]

someone post the fake side please?

Anjow, just read your sig. Is there a reason why she left?

[itsthebatman]

someone post the fake side please?
It's not on the boards anymore, I just checked the thread which discussed it. Image Shack has taken it down. So unless someone saved it to their hard drive and can post it...
Silver Souper, didn't you save all the sides?

[mad-sci]

here...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v367/madsci/sfirstkisssidespapsiderru8.jpg

[sasquatchs]

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/7849/sfirstkisssidespapsidercg3.jpg

How long after we read the sides was this released? Who posted it? Did WB anticipate us getting them or just react to it?

[regwec]

then you missed the point. the writing was just a means for hiding the message. obviously, there is a connection and obviously, the side is legit.

Of course I understand that, but even without the vertical text, the side had basic grammatical errors and a massively stilted style. We know there to be a connection between the side and the image; I think that both are crap, so I prefer to hope that they are both fake. We shall see. But I don't think that anything is exactly obvious, here.

[Anjow1060]

Anjow, just read your sig. Is there a reason why she left?


yep.

[breyfogle_rules]

yep.

Oh come ON MAN! Couldnt she just use the ignore feature?

Doesnt she know she is loved? Cherished? This is real life here! Just because we are really just a faceless, needy conglomeration of ones and zero's doesnt mean she can abandon us.

poo

[Boom]

You're kidding. Miranda left?

She was one of our better members :csad:.

[dark_b]

ok stop here.
time out.
miranda left?

why ?????????????????

[breyfogle_rules]

Of course I understand that, but even without the vertical text, the side had basic grammatical errors and a massively stilted style. We know there to be a connection between the side and the image; I think that both are crap, so I prefer to hope that they are both fake. We shall see. But I don't think that anything is exactly obvious, here.

Sorry Reg, but seeyouindecember.com is registered to 42entertainment,
the leading Hollywood ARG viral marketing company. It's real.
The good news is that the characterization is spot on.

[regwec]

Hmmm. Well, could it be that the side and the image are both genuine and both fake at the same time? The side is obviously too badly written to bare any relation to anything in the real script. Perhaps that dreadful image is a parody of some manips floating around the net? Would anyone care to pass me a straw that I might grasp?

[Caliber]

The pic looks great, Joker looks creepy. The website thing is interesting.

[mcilroga]

This has been said before, but deserves to be said again.

This marketing campaign is ****ing genius... hands down the coolest, most innovative idea I've ever seen for a film. It's completely in-character of The Joker as well, which is neat in itself. It's like he's really out there, messing with us. Good job, Warner Bros. Keep up the good work.

Besides all that, it's just fun. Man, I feel like I'm 12 years old again. Hahaha.

[breyfogle_rules]

Oh dear God.
He's officially twisting with inertia from this ugly image.
Get the smelling salts...
perhaps some yeast spread.

Malcontent Englishman on the loose!

[Cycloptis]

Hmmm. Well, could it be that the side and the image are both genuine and both fake at the same time? The side is obviously too badly written to bare any relation to anything in the real script. Perhaps that dreadful image is a parody of some manips floating around the net? Would anyone care to pass me a straw that I might grasp?

The theory is floating around BoF. It seems plausible. I mean, the Joker has a picture of himself, then withdraws it within a day of its complete revealing. Then he laughs at us and says "see you in December."

[breyfogle_rules]

The theory is floating around BoF. It seems plausible. I mean, the Joker has a picture of himself, then withdraws it within a day of its complete revealing. Then he laughs at us and says "see you in December."

Yeah

And maybe women don't be shoppin'

[breyfogle_rules]

You know what Mo-Fo's?

I think I'll b getting my self a NIIIIICE little avatar today.

I then I REALLY wont be loser!

Superheroes make me go YAY!

[mad-sci]

I got a feeling that Batman will be the focus of the 2007 Comic-Con (not Joker).

I see:-
A brand new Bat-poster (new outfit)

new vehicle pics

MAYBE cast interviews (Goyer, Jonah Nolan, Eckhart, Gyllenhaal, Ledger?).

[The Last Meatbag]

Oh come ON MAN! Couldnt she just use the ignore feature?

Doesnt she know she is loved? Cherished? This is real life here! Just because we are really just a faceless, needy conglomeration of ones and zero's doesnt mean she can abandon us.

poo



Ugh, get over her. Jesus.

[breyfogle_rules]

Ugh, get over her. Jesus.

well can I love YOU then?

Please.

Must. Love. Somebody.

[Dark52Knight]

This has been said before, but deserves to be said again.

This marketing campaign is ****ing genius... hands down the coolest, most innovative idea I've ever seen for a film. It's completely in-character of The Joker as well, which is neat in itself. It's like he's really out there, messing with us. Good job, Warner Bros. Keep up the good work.

Besides all that, it's just fun. Man, I feel like I'm 12 years old again. Hahaha.


Oh Yeah

[ryan dube]

http://www.arisingthreat.com/cgcrew/joker.jpg

[BruceWayne]

Seriously, probably the best marketing/PR campaign I've seen in a while. I've become obsessed with "Mr. Happy's" myspace page. I keep playing "Mr. Sandman" over and over. Three blog entries so far....

[IamtheBatman]

Probably the best marketing campaign since Batman 89'.

[Mr. Socko]

http://www.arisingthreat.com/cgcrew/joker.jpg

That's not the Joker I want :csad:

[Juanigi]

You know you guys should have seen this coming. How can you be upset with Ledger's look when he doesn't, has never, and never will, look like the Joker? Honestly, once he was cast, what were you expecting? A prosthetic chin? Lord have mercy.
Nolan has cast someone who looks nothing like the Jokerhttp://www.mywasteofspace.com/heathjoker.jpg

[Spidro Man]

That's not the Joker I want :csad:
Well thats kinda what you're getting.

[IamtheBatman]

Why aren't people accepting the fact that this is our Joker.

[Mr. Socko]

I know that's what we're pretty much getting but....






















That's not the Joker I want ;)

[Punch]

Well thats kinda what you're getting.

not at all

[Closerframe]

Jokers smile is being described as a Glasgow smile the smile also is called the Chelsea grinfor gangs hoping to leave a message to rival gang membersand its for gangs hoping to leave a message to rival gang members.

[Closerframe]

Jokers smile is being described as a Glasgow smile the smile also is called the Chelsea grin for gangs hoping to leave a message to rival gang membersand its for gangs hoping to leave a message to rival gang members.

[Killing Joke926]

Hey guys, I just went over to "I Believe In Harvey Dent Too.com" and suprisingly found out that the page doesn't work. Hmmm......I wonder why? I guess we'll find out soon enough. Hoping and praying that maybe the new Joker's a fake.

[Mr. Socko]

Hey guys, I just went over to "I Believe In Harvey Dent Too.com" and suprisingly found out that the page doesn't work. Hmmm......I wonder why? I guess we'll find out soon enough. Hoping and praying that maybe the new Joker's a fake.


This link explains it.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5721

[IamtheBatman]

Jokers smile is being described as a Glasgow smile the smile also is called the Chelsea grin for gangs hoping to leave a message to rival gang membersand its for gangs hoping to leave a message to rival gang members.

For, opposite gang member to have that done to you must be hell. Getting kicked nuts could kill a person.

[The Joker]

This link explains it.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5721

December is such a long time away :csad:

[Comicfan]

http://www.arisingthreat.com/cgcrew/joker.jpg

Crap... that looks so bad... :csad: :csad:

[Killing Joke926]

This link explains it.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5721

CRAP!:cmad: *sigh*.....back to the drawing board.

[Keyser Soze]

http://www.arisingthreat.com/cgcrew/joker.jpg

Awesome manip, ryan! Gives us an idea what The Joker's smile will look like in context (actually a lot less prominent than it was in EXTREME CLOSE-UP), and the picture you chose is a nice nod to "The Killing Joke". Good work!

[nerdybat]

http://www.arisingthreat.com/cgcrew/joker.jpg


http://www.ethanwiner.com/Smiley%20Land/Sad03.gif

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[Lunar_Wolf]

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[nerdybat]

I love iT!!!!!

[Killing Joke926]

http://www.ethanwiner.com/Smiley%20Land/Sad03.gif

WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I feel your pain.......:csad:

[nerdybat]

Actually me like!!!!!!!!!

[Robin91939]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/robin91939/TeaserPoster.jpg

Just for kicks.

-R

[IamtheBatman]

http://www.ethanwiner.com/Smiley%20Land/Sad03.gif

WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You can cry on my shoulder.

[Bond]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/robin91939/TeaserPoster.jpg

Just for kicks.

-R
Nice work there, Robin (heh).

The text at the top looks a little choppy, and the logo from TDK website would look better... but still, good job.

[Jekyll Faygo]

Props to the guy on here who translated the code in the sides months ago that read:

"See You In December"

You are not forgotten by this poster.

[The Joker]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/robin91939/TeaserPoster.jpg

Just for kicks.

-R

Excellent work :up:

[bluejake01]

I also posted this in the Joker Revealed thread.

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m314/bluejake0123/tdkjokerkl0JM2.jpg
I based this on an earlier photo-manip, so it's a manip of a manip. Not sure who did the original, but it's very good. I was wanting to see what the Joker design that was revealed might look like when he is smiling. The question is, if the Joker looks like this when a better picture is revealed and he is smiling, would the people that hate the design feel differently? Is it just a bad picture, or a bad design altogether in your eyes?

[IamtheBatman]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/robin91939/TeaserPoster.jpg


Man, I thought was the real thing until I saw the BB bat.

[Juanigi]

I was thinking of doing a poster with the bat over his mouth but it was a little too silence of the lambs

[Comicfan]

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4143/jokermanipsf0.jpg

[The-Dark-Knight]

I just want to know if the Joker Picture is Legit, i mean I for the record think it is (and i like it, its better than i expected)

but i cant help but think that maybe, just maybe it might not be legit, i mean take this, the dates the sites they were set up and who they were registered to-

http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=IBELIEVEINHARVEYDENT&tld=com

or this-

http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=IBELIEVEINHARVEYDENTTOO&tld=com

like i said i think it is, but i still have that niggling feeling.:huh:

[IamtheBatman]

Its legit Its legit from SHH, BOF, and numerous other sources.

[Robin91939]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/robin91939/TeaserPoster-1.jpg

I reworked the fonts and the Bat logo.

-R

[Bond]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/robin91939/TeaserPoster-1.jpg

I reworked the fonts and the Bat logo.

-R
:up:

[The-Dark-Knight]

Its legit Its legit from SHH, BOF, and numerous other sources.


I'd Believe SHH, BOF not so much

[Lunar_Wolf]

It's legit. It came from the dark knight official site.

[Noir]

http://www.arisingthreat.com/cgcrew/joker.jpg
I LOVE THAT.

[Mr. Socko]

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4143/jokermanipsf0.jpg


That is scary.



And not in a horrific way, in a Michael Jackson way.

[Robin91939]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/robin91939/TeaserPoster-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/robin91939/Darkknightteaser.png

I didn't know where else to put these cause there is no art thread that I can find.

-R

[IamtheBatman]

OOFAH can't wait to see the new batsuit in that picture.

[Doc Holliday]

Props to the guy on here who translated the code in the sides months ago that read:

"See You In December"

You are not forgotten by this poster.

I totally forgot about that!

AAAAAAAAH! Nolan and his subtleties man.

[Robin91939]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/robin91939/poster1.jpg

I think this is my finished product. Sorry for posting it like 3 times lol.

-R

[Steelsheen]

good work there Robin :up: