The man who laughs: The Joker thread

[BubbaGump]

It could go either way with ra's. they left openings to have him come back or consider him dead. I just think of everything he taught bruce and so many others, to say he wanted them trained warrior capable of the job and missions yes, but would a master teach all of his tricks, devulge everything he has learned, in the real world or supernatural, i think not. just watch that scene of ra's about to go down in the train again. He does not look like a man about to die

Yeah, Nolan left an opening (we never really see him die) just in case. I could see him returning for a future film, with a decent explanation of how he escaped the train.

[TheBat812]

Well they never alluded to the Lazarus Pit or anything except for that one line where he says "Is Ra's Al Ghul immortal? Are his methods supernatural?" That made me think of it, but to an average Joe, it might seem like a cheap gimmick to bring back an old character unless they know about the Lazarus Pit already.
If anything, that line is conformation that his "supernatural" abilities are merely his ideals and cheap parlor tricks. There will be no Lazarus Pit.

[Maggotx9]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm heath appears to have lost a lot of weight
yeah he looks much thinner

[NoName86]

Damn, if you'll look at the high res pic of Heath above, you'll notice that even still not all of the green has washe dout his hair. Most of it, but definitely not all.

Hmm, maybe not. After looking at it again I swear I catch glimpses of green, but then when I look hard I don't really see any specific areas. Still seems that there is green in there though.

[ThorsRage]

If anything, that line is conformation that his "supernatural" abilities are merely his ideals and cheap parlor tricks. There will be no Lazarus Pit.


I don't think its conformation, to me its sound like he uses both but the illusion is your never sure which one he is using. but i definately respect your view, but i hope your wrong because i think there is just so much more to explore with ra's.

[undyingsoul]

what if ra's is in TDK but helps batman defeat the joker...that would be interesting

[ThorsRage]

i think i see a little green in the bottom left pic when its blown up on my computer. Or maybe its my eyes just seeing what they want to see

[ThorsRage]

what if ra's is in TDK but helps batman defeat the joker...that would be interesting



haha, that would be an interesting twist. but i doubt ra's will be back they got the villians setup for the next two films.

but one thing to ponder Crane was working for ra's in the first film, who's he working for now?

[NoName86]

Not much but amusing

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/05/20/115847.php#comment-605133

It's a shame the person didn't give more of a description on what he seen. Cool though!

[Conebone69]

The heath pic in HQ if someone wants to make any manip:
http://img3.shareavenue.com/thumbnails/1/5/e/0/15e04f91dbffd3c655a8102b267c3a3337976f51.jpg (http://img3.shareavenue.com/image.php?file=15e04f91dbffd3c655a8102b267c3a33379 76f51)

And 2 with Bale:
http://img4.shareavenue.com/thumbnails/5/b/7/4/5b746af29b3ba8155eeda3317fbad537c5dae791.jpg (http://img4.shareavenue.com/image.php?file=5b746af29b3ba8155eeda3317fbad537c5d ae791) http://img3.shareavenue.com/thumbnails/6/a/5/d/6a5de8fd27775625b267518dd465097d02608294.jpg (http://img3.shareavenue.com/image.php?file=6a5de8fd27775625b267518dd465097d026 08294)

:hyper:
Bale looks different, hes not as buff as he was in BB and it looks like his chins bigger

[Victory]

Victory are you referring to the good samaratin law as in the last Sienfeld episode? This is an unrealistic world even though Nolan tries his damndest to "realize" it you cannot apply real world logic/law here

Something like that sure. The point I was trying to make is that there is a big difference between intentionally killing someone and not saving them. Although Batman chose not to save Ra's, he's still not a killer. And I tried to elaborate on that by comparing that to how if it did mean as such, then just about everyone who has ever seen a crime take place would be just as guilty as the criminal committing the crime... Basically, if this were true, Bruce would be just as guilty as Joe Chill. Obviously, he's not. But whether that actually came across in my post, I've no idea.

I mean, with all due respect, I find it kind of ridiculous how one of the darkest comic book heroes of all time can be so easily protested when taboo subjects are actually portrayed for once. Don't get me wrong, I prefer the older interpretations of Batman to the Frank Miller version but Batman is a dark character for far more reasons than just because he wears black. And a lot of it is due to what he has to encounter and the decisions he must make.

Cheers! :yay:

[Batty Belfry]

Ledger is very thin these days, compared to those older papparazzi pics where he's giving the finger with his beard and pot belly. He's looking very Joker-esque as of late. :)

[Dark Sentinel]

Well they never alluded to the Lazarus Pit or anything except for that one line where he says "Is Ra's Al Ghul immortal? Are his methods supernatural?" That made me think of it, but to an average Joe, it might seem like a cheap gimmick to bring back an old character unless they know about the Lazarus Pit already.

the Lazarus Pit was mentioned in the novelization (if its worth mentioning at all)

[wikum]

they can bring back ra's without using a lazarus pit. its called a movie.

[Harley Quinn]

his hair is almost green here:

http://www.****************.com/2007/06/20/heath-ledger-takes-matilda-for-a-walk/
http://i8.tinypic.com/4kdab7l.jpg

[ghost_x]

Very similar final shade of green to what we've seen on the set/promo shots

[wikum]

his hair won't be green.

his face won't be white.

his lips won't be red.

nolan wants REALISM.

[Harley Quinn]

his hair won't be green.

his face won't be white.

his lips won't be red.

nolan wants REALISM.

so i guess heath's hair guess came down with a case of the fungus :X

[ghost_x]

The amount of moronic posting I've ever seen on the hype, it's generally hard to decipher a post made in jest, or complete retardation. Which is yours wikum?

[DieSmiling]

his hair won't be green.

his face won't be white.

his lips won't be red.

nolan wants REALISM.

Yes they will. We know this for a fact. Hopefully you're joking.

[wikum]

so i guess heath's hair guess came down with a case of the fungus :X

yea...allegedly there is a fungus epidemic going about the tdk set.

[wikum]

Yes they will. We know this for a fact.

(sarcasm) (/sarcasm)

[gangsta_crizzab]

face it man, no one speaks that tounge round these here parts :whatever:

[DieSmiling]

(sarcasm) (/sarcasm)

Well, it was kinda random and not very funny.

[Joker'sHenchman]

Have Joker and Riddler ever worked together or against each other?

[wikum]

Well, it was kinda random and not very funny.

It was just a random post because of how people get so wound up about every single little detail of The Jokers look.

I'm sorry *hugs*

[Infinity9999x]

his hair won't be green.

his face won't be white.

his lips won't be red.

nolan wants REALISM.

For some reason when I read that I thought of the line in Hook....

"cannot fly,
cannot fight,
cannot crow"

Don't know why, but when I read your post I imagined it being said in the same voice of dude that said the line I typed from Hook.

[ghost_x]

It was just a random post because of how people get so wound up about every single little detail of The Jokers look.

I'm sorry *hugs*

Satire, on Superherohype...absurd

[gangsta_crizzab]

Satire, on Superherohype...absurd

you got that right, you can say that Brett Ratner is directing Spider-Man 4, and these guys will take it literally and flip :woot:

[Bandyt]

you got that right, you can say that Brett Ratner is directing Spider-Man 4, and these guys will take it literally and flip :woot:

He is, it was confirmed a few hours ago.

[gangsta_crizzab]

He is, it was confirmed a few hours ago.

:wow: :wow: :wow:

GENTLEMAN, WE MUST STAND TOGETHER AND FIGHT THIS MENACE


:oldrazz:

[Noir]

He is, it was confirmed a few hours ago.:dry::dry::dry:...No.

[Bandyt]

hmmm, Joker news really IS slow, isn't it?

[itsthebatman]

Have Joker and Riddler ever worked together or against each other?
Hush is the only instance that springs to mind where they've been involved in the same scheme.

[TV's Frank]

For some reason when I read that I thought of the line in Hook....

"cannot fly,
cannot fight,
cannot crow"

Don't know why, but when I read your post I imagined it being said in the same voice of dude that said the line I typed from Hook.

RUFI-OOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! :woot:

[J. J. Jameson]

He is, it was confirmed a few hours ago.

Not funny. :dry:

I'll burn the Sony offices if he does.

[JTIZZLEVILLE]

Not funny. :dry:

I'll burn the Sony offices if he does.

I'm saving this post. Maybe I'll get some kind of reward in the lawsuits.

:oldrazz:

[uchiha_itachi]

can't be serious..

[wikum]

RUFI-OOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! :woot:


http://ucsu.colorado.edu/~mcnally/net/images/rufio.gif

[Joker'sHenchman]

http://ucsu.colorado.edu/~mcnally/net/images/rufio.gif

I just saw Rufio in some dance movie the other night. I can't remember the title but it had Antonio Banderas as a ballroom dance teacher. It was a so-so movie.

[J. J. Jameson]

I'm saving this post. Maybe I'll get some kind of reward in the lawsuits.

:oldrazz:

Yeah...if you count a subpoena a reward.







Wow this thread is off topic :whatever:

[Jungianarchetyp]

When I first discovered that Ledger was playing the Joker I was disappointed, to say the least, but I've recently warmed to the idea. Not least because the look is really clever, very creative and extremely unnerving in much the same way as sack-over-the-head Scarecrow was.

I find the prospect of the Joker in TDK actually unsettling and disturbing, which presumably is the desired effect. I can see him being a really sick puppy and somehow Ledger seems appropriate for that, because he actually strikes me as a bit of a nutcase.

That said, when the FA appointed Steve McLaren as England manager I was at first disappointed, then I warmed to the idea a little. And he turned out to be useless. Maybe Ledger will be a big ball of overly 'sinister' cheese. Like everyone else, though, I expect both Nolan and Bale to deliver.

[Lord Thanos]

i only hope he has the chops,jokes almost shakespierian in character,if they get this right(and improve mind u)it will be something audences havent whitnessed before(89 joker was great minus the camp part but he didnt truly seen like a man who could be anythin at any givin momment)which is one of the defining traits(he could kill u one day,or hug u another

[Juanigi]

Have Joker and Riddler ever worked together or against each other?http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3d/1966_batman_movie_poster.jpg

[Bandyt]

Ledger will deliver...in one way or another. But yeah, guess who's seeing Transformers in a few hours? ^_^

[Lord Thanos]

does any one hav a list of david goyers statements regarding his take/idea of the joker

[Lord Thanos]

please tell me theres some life out there...

[Shot Gun Shy]

I just saw Rufio in some dance movie the other night. I can't remember the title but it had Antonio Banderas as a ballroom dance teacher. It was a so-so movie.


Take The Lead.
Its funny cus that actor ha been in a ton of movies, the problem is he doesnt really look the same he did back when he made Hook, so NOBODY even knows when its him, lol.
He gained a lot of weight, too.

[Schlosser85]

Seems like we haven't heard anything about Ledger lately (unless you count that pic of him having lunch with Bale). Hope he shows up on the set again soon.

[sasquatchs]

The Joker's probably not much of an outdoors type, I imagine most of Ledger's work will be in London

[Bandyt]

Maybe the pictures we've seen of ledger with Green foils in is just the risidual hair dye after trying to wash it out. I know for a fact that colour is much difficult to get out of lighter hair than dark.

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3443/hclolnk0.jpg

[dark_b]

Maybe the pictures we've seen of ledger with Green foils in is just the risidual hair dye after trying to wash it out. I know for a fact that colour is much difficult to get out of lighter hair than dark.

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3443/hclolnk0.jpgthe question still remains: why wash almost every day the colour out if it is so hard to do?

i think he has a wig.

[Boom]

the question still remains: why wash almost every day the colour out if it is so hard to do?

i think he has a wig.
So he doesn't have to walk around in public with green hair :dry:?

[dark_b]

So he doesn't have to walk around in public with green hair :dry:?
poor actors who have long hair and then they shave for a movie :o

its easier to make blond hair look brown than to make ledgers hair look green.

talking about lois i am. fact is that its very easier now with wigs than it was in the past. they look 100% realistic.


i just think its strange that he would destroy hes hair so much in 3 months just because of this.

[Boom]

poor actors who have long hair and then they shave for a movie :o

its easier to make blond hair look brown than to make ledgers hair look green.

talking about lois i am. fact is that its very easier now with wigs than it was in the past. they look 100% realistic.


i just think its strange that he would destroy hes hair so much in 3 months just because of this.
Well from what we've been hearing, The Joker's hair isn't fully green.

[dark_b]

Well from what we've been hearing, The Joker's hair isn't fully green.from what i ahve been hearing it doesnt matter :cwink:

even if he has only 50% green hair its still 50% of damage.

[Boom]

from what i ahve been hearing it doesnt matter :cwink:

even if he has only 50% green hair its still 50% of damage.
He'll live.

[Bandyt]

He just needs a good Conditioner, that's all.

[fcrowelle06]

Character
The Joker has been referred to as the Clown Prince of Crime, the Harlequin of Hate, and the Ace of Knaves. Throughout the evolution of the DC universe, interpretations and incarnations of the Joker have taken two forms. The original and currently dominant image is of a sadistic, fiendishly intelligent lunatic with a warped sense of humor, deriving pleasure from inflicting twisted, morbid death and terror upon innocent people. In this interpretation, he is a textbook example of antisocial personality disorder. The other interpretation of the character, popular in the late 1940s through 1960s comic books as well as the 1960s television series, is that of an eccentric but harmless prankster and thief. The 1990s cartoon Batman: The Animated Series is notable for blending these two aspects to great acclaim, although most interpretations tend to embrace one characterization or the other.

The Joker's victims have included men, women, children, and even his own henchmen. A 1996 issue of Hitman stated that the Joker once gassed an entire kindergarten class. In the graphic novel The Joker: Devil's Advocate, the Joker is reported to have killed well over 2,000 people. Despite having murdered enough people to get the death penalty thousands of times over, he is always found not guilty by reason of insanity. In the Batman story line "War Crimes", this continued ruling of insanity is in fact made possible by The Joker's own dream team of lawyers. He is then placed in Arkham Asylum, from which he appears able to escape at will.

There have been times when Batman has been tempted to put the Joker down once and for all, but has relented at the last minute. After capturing the Joker in one story, he threatens to kill his old foe, but then says, "But that would give you the final victory, making me into a killer like yourself!" Conversely, the Joker has given up many chances to kill Batman. Their mutual obsession is unique compared to other superheroes and villains:

[fcrowelle06]

that's the joker I want to see, hopefully Nolan can do that...since he wrote the freakin script

[Bandyt]

You didn't state a Joker you wanted to see. You just did a wikipedia-style entry on what the joker is and was. I personally like the sick demented freak version. It's doubtful Nolan will make him a harmless prankster, it's laughable.

[Kakihara]

You didn't state a Joker you wanted to see. You just did a wikipedia-style entry on what the joker is and was. I personally like the sick demented freak version. It's doubtful Nolan will make him a harmless prankster, it's laughable.
You don't have to worry about that. It's the former description. He kills a number of people in TDK, seemingly for his own amusement.

[Bandyt]

You don't have to worry about that. It's the former description. He kills a number of people in TDK, seemingly for his own amusement.

Ah, that's the Joker I know and love.

[Motown Marvel]

Maybe the pictures we've seen of ledger with Green foils in is just the risidual hair dye after trying to wash it out. I know for a fact that colour is much difficult to get out of lighter hair than dark.

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3443/hclolnk0.jpg

ahhhhh! sitting next to christian bale is bearded christian bale. psychadellic!

[Orko Is King]

ahhhhh! sitting next to christian bale is bearded christian bale. psychadellic!

Borden is up to his old tricks again it seems.:oldrazz:

[Akimych]

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5/akimych/hallo.jpg

[Bond]

Ok..?

[chitownballer]

If you think thats heath in that pic, it's not. Thats Matt the Production assistant he was in charge of all of us extras yesterday.

[The Mighty Wind]

If you think thats heath in that pic, it's not. Thats Matt the Production assistant he was in charge of all of us extras yesterday.
I was going to say, it seems doubtful that Heath would be standing up in the middle of an evacuation.

[donk70]

If you think thats heath in that pic, it's not. Thats Matt the Production assistant he was in charge of all of us extras yesterday.
See what happens when you don't feed the "dogs" regularly?

Everything starts looking like a steak ;)

[breyfogle_rules]

See what happens when you don't feed the "dogs" regularly?

Everything starts looking like a steak ;)

Ha!

[Bandyt]

Did you end up seeing the Joker at all, chitownballer?

[strikezone89]

If you think thats heath in that pic, it's not. Thats Matt the Production assistant he was in charge of all of us extras yesterday.

fo' sooo

[Untilteld]

ahhhhh! sitting next to christian bale is bearded christian bale. psychadellic!

glad I'm not the only one who noticed that.

[Bandyt]

Need...more...joker...news....!*splodes*

[Acid Snowman]

Hello chaps, I think I have the "cherry-pie lipstick" thing worked out; Joker wanted to kiss Poison Ivy, but found he was allergic to the prosthetic lips, leaving him frustrated and and with a ghastly red smile. Best origin story so far.
In all seriousnous, It's great how much information we're getting for a film that ain't coming out for a while.

[stonecold]

i think the dude next to christian bale in that photo is the director of 'the machinist'.

rescue dawn is amazing!!!

[chitownballer]

Did you end up seeing the Joker at all, chitownballer?

No not lucky enough to have that happen, but I did talk to some of the production crew who have worked on scenes with him and they say the look is just psychotic and heaths portrayal is intense and works very well for the part

[Bandyt]

Ah! Very nicely awesome!

[miisterwilson]

i love this video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=74fOJ8ibPc4

[Bandyt]

Haha, man, as much as I love the Joker, when he gets shot by Tim it's a really awesome scene.

[Bond]

I like these 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuPEfCjsTUw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6Dz_B8dV-w

[shapeshifter]

the TAS joker was so cool in all of his incarnations. i like the last one best, but still, they all had merit

[jgiant]

Looks like two-face has stolen Joker's thunder lately on this forum...what the hell...

[bestever23]

I just hope JOKER will have more screen time then Venom did In Spiderman 3

[BubbaGump]

I like these 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuPEfCjsTUw



This one was really well-made. I hate System of a Down, but it fits really well in this video.

[strikezone89]

y are peeps freaking out about ledger's hair??

[Daredevil_2003]

I didn't like the perma smile from B89 all that much, but in the context of why he had it in the film (nerve damage/botched plastic surgery) it did look natural, IMO.

[The Geek Vault]

You know what I just realized in Batman: TAS why are Jokers eyes black with white pupils? Who the hell has eyes like that?

[Octoberist]

You know what I just realized in Batman: TAS why are Jokers eyes black with white pupils? Who the hell has eyes like that?

it's simply for a pure artistic style.

[Daredevil_2003]

it's simply for a pure artistic style.Yeah, makes him look more evil, even though I thought he looked plenty evil before, and better. :whatever: The JL version was the best looking Timm Joker.

[Compi716]

rescue dawn is amazing!!!
Is it? Good. I really want to see it. Bale's performance is stellar, no doubt.

[Fresh Tendrils]

Is it? Good. I really want to see it. Bale's performance is stellar, no doubt.
I really want to see it too, but I doubt my theatre will have it.

[Bond]

I also want to see it. Bale looks amazing in it.

[Juanigi]

You know what I just realized in Batman: TAS why are Jokers eyes black with white pupils? Who the hell has eyes like that?looking back on that design now, I keep seeing him as an animaniacs character

[TheBatman072]

looking back on that design now, I keep seeing him as an animaniacs character


Yep. My least favorite Joker design.


For me it goes:


JL Joker
TAS Joker
TNBA Joker

[Bandyt]

What does the Justice League character look like? and what's TNBA?

[Juanigi]

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/beyond/backstage/rotjedits/cut/12.jpg

the new batman adventures is the kids wb redesign era:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/31/Joker1.JPG

[Shoemeister]

the new batman adventures is the kids wb redesign era:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/31/Joker1.JPG

I wasn't too fond of these re-designs. The animation seemed to get a lot less darker, slightly anime-ish and a lot LESS interesting. And don't even get me started on that pile of crap known as "The Batman". Seriously.

[Juanigi]

some of the extremely stylized looks worked better than others, but the justice league designs are the best compromise

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/14/The_animated_batmans.JPG

[BubbaGump]

I wasn't too fond of these re-designs. The animation seemed to get a lot less darker, slightly anime-ish and a lot LESS interesting. And don't even get me started on that pile of crap known as "The Batman". Seriously.

No way was TNBA Anime-ish. I actually liked the TNBA Batman design better than TAS, though TAS was a better show. The Justice League Batman ranks third for me (second is BTAS). In JL, you can begin to see Batman's hourglass form that would come into full effect in "Teh Batman."

[Crook]

He has the same exact basic design (large shoulders, slim lower body) in all 4. :huh:

[BatoutofHell]

He has the same exact basic design (large shoulders, slim lower body) in all 4. :huh:

Batman doesn't own a squat rack.

[itsthebatman]

He has the same exact basic design (large shoulders, slim lower body) in all 4. :huh:
But no.3 , for instance, looks more stylised with the longer ears and a slimmer looking lower-body than Batman no 1 (the best of all).
They're variations on a theme, no doubt.

[Untilteld]

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/beyond/backstage/rotjedits/cut/12.jpg

the new batman adventures is the kids wb redesign era:



This will always be my favourite look for Mister J.

[marty mcfly]

some of the extremely stylized looks worked better than others, but the justice league designs are the best compromise

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/14/The_animated_batmans.JPG


i'm not the biggest fan of batman's design for "The Batman" (2004 - ) but at least they gave him some more normal proportions, instead of that huge chest, tiny stick legs, and pointy feet.

the joker design for that show is just... i mean... just terrible. am i wrong? no, i'm not.

[Steelsheen]

i'm not the biggest fan of batman's design for "The Batman" (2004 - ) but at least they gave him some more normal proportions, instead of that huge chest, tiny stick legs, and pointy feet.
yeah, they just gave him a tiny waist ;)

[Ender Durden]

97-98 bats is easily my fav

the fact that its the darkest design probably

[donk70]

Didn't care for any of the cartoon Batman or cartoon Joker.

The latest Joker, however, is the worse of them all. Since when is the Joker a cross between a clown and a gorilla?

[turtlefocker]

The Joker in The Batman takes some getting used to but hes not THAT bad. The animated film Batman vs. Dracula was entertaining and I liked Joker in that.

[Keyser Soze]

Just because I'm bored, and this thread is pretty dead:

CINEMATIC JOKEROMETRY

http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/recording/pix/clockwork-orange2.jpg

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http://www.barillo.com/worlds_biggest_scumbags_files/frank%2520booth.jpg

+

http://www.haroldsaxon.co.uk/gallery/saxongallery06.jpg

x

http://www.patfullerton.com/batman/pix/batwallpaper/batwallpaper5.jpg

=

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/JokerFinal.jpg

[TheBatman072]

I have no idea who the person in the third picture is.

[Mercurius]

Thom Yorke? (hahahaha)

[Mr. Thing]

I have no idea who the person in the third picture is.

The Master... ie. one crazy, evil, sonofa*****. That's all you need to know, really.

[DaoinSidhe]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1156/718087389_d598bd2809.jpg

Just my attempt at creating a smiling picture with hair of the new Joker-Look, so we have more of an idea, what it would look like on screen. What do you think?
Hello everybody, by the way.

[Keyser Soze]

I have no idea who the person in the third picture is.

Harold Saxon is your man! Vote Saxon!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGoTxNrhrk0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJSwo02q3kw&mode=related&search=

[TheBatman072]

Huh.


Yep. I agree with the Jokerometry post.

[ToddIsDead]

I see it more as:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41073000/jpg/_41073134_panda7_ap.jpg

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http://images.acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_SM/0018-0603-2016-2921_SM.jpg

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http://www.patfullerton.com/batman/pix/batwallpaper/batwallpaper5.jpg

=

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/JokerFinal.jpg

[Keyser Soze]

I see it more as:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41073000/jpg/_41073134_panda7_ap.jpg

+

http://images.acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_SM/0018-0603-2016-2921_SM.jpg

-

http://www.patfullerton.com/batman/pix/batwallpaper/batwallpaper5.jpg

=

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/JokerFinal.jpg


Nah I prefer mine's... :cwink:

[Keyser Soze]

Ah yes, I forgot....

http://www.rackham.dk/artikel/billeder/mgm/joke.jpg
= JOKER

http://ca.geocities.com/tfernan@rogers.com/joke1.jpg
= JINO~!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!

[ToddIsDead]

Yes, that seems fair.

I knew something was wrong with my equation. Thanks for the correction.

[regwec]

Who came up with "Jino"? They were a satirino.

[Keyser Soze]

Who came up with "Jino"? They were a satirino.

I swear, I didn't come up with that. That's what all the naysayers were using before you came up with "The Joke". I literally facepalmed.

[fcrowelle06]

Heath's gotta have the laugh, the laugh will set him apart as the Joker or someone just playing him....Mark Hamill had it, Jack Nicholson had it, now it's Heath's turn

[TheBatman072]

http://ca.geocities.com/tfernan@rogers.com/joke1.jpg

Yeah, that doesn't look bad at all.

[dark_b]

why the panda eyes? i sear if joker makes a joke that they both have panda eyes i will hunt nolan down and kick him.

[ICXCNIKA]

There's a great selection of Batman TAS images, here, with pics of both the characters' original deigns and re-designs, for the animated series that followed.

http://www.cartoondepot.com/pages/img/wb/batman.htm (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9iby4LWM41GDzYBgV6jzbkF/SIG=127erf99l/EXP=1183745366/**http%3A//www.cartoondepot.com/pages/img/wb/batman.htm)

[Bandyt]

Am I the only one who doesn't mind The Batman's Batman design. The waist is tiny, but you haven't said anything about how the others have ballerina legs and fairy shoes. I just like the long cape, it's use more to signify him as a symbol of fear in the Cartoon. The only things I don't like about The Batman cartoon is that it could use more blood, the Joker's look is just bad but the character is alrighty, and the kids that are Batgirl and Robin are waaay too young.

[fcrowelle06]

I actually like the design, (ears could be bigger and sharper though) but I want the Joker to be more like Mark Hamill, love the Riddler

[Socrates858]

I am wondering how jokers gets his smile? Does Batman Curb Smile the Joker, AMerica History X style???

[TheBat812]

here's what i think we'll see for joker's makeup:

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/922/ledjokermorecopygy9.jpg

[Dark52Knight]

Thats real good

[Dark52Knight]

**** that is cool, thats the best I HAVE SEEN YET, I bet that is really close to what we are going to get. Nice job Bat812

[sasquatchs]

Very nice. Did you color his stubble green? :woot:

[Yurka]

thats been my favorite manip of Ledger so far.
Awesome work.

[Kakihara]

If he ends up looking like that in the film, I'll be happy. I doubt the eyes will be as subtle, though:(

[dchisholm]

something is telling me that the area around the eyes is going to look less like shadows or dull makeup and more like someone who hasn't slept in a very very long time...very dark bags, maybe accentuated by some eyeliner or something.
just a hunch.

[TheBatman072]

Whiten his skin a little more, take away the...cracks, I guess? And you've got TDK Joker.

Or what I hope he'll look like.

[jdsolno7]

I know a lot of people are worried about the cut smile in the movie, but I'm not so sure the scars are going to be as big as everyone thinks. You have to look at the lines on Ledger's face when he smiles. If the scars go up too far on his cheeks, the look won't come out right because the scars will go in too many different directions. I found a picture of Ledger with a huge smile that I think can show what I mean and here's the link.

http://www.iballer.com/malecelebs/ledger/images/l48_jpg.jpg

Its an older picture so his face will have naturally changed slightly, but if the scar follows the lines of his face he won't look bad at all. I'd do a manip on the pic, but my photoshop skills leave much to be desired. Just my thoughts on the subject.

[Juanigi]

I know a lot of people are worried about the cut smile in the movie, but I'm not so sure the scars are going to be as big as everyone thinks. You have to look at the lines on Ledger's face when he smiles. If the scars go up too far on his cheeks, the look won't come out right because the scars will go in too many different directions. I found a picture of Ledger with a huge smile that I think can show what I mean and here's the link.

http://www.iballer.com/malecelebs/ledger/images/l48_jpg.jpg

Its an older picture so his face will have naturally changed slightly, but if the scar follows the lines of his face he won't look bad at all. I'd do a manip on the pic, but my photoshop skills leave much to be desired. Just my thoughts on the subject.http://www.mywasteofspace.com/heathjoker.jpg

[Batman jr.]

Sorry, see above. Edit, of course!

[Yurka]

That manip is on this very page

[Batman jr.]

Thank you. :word:

[gwynplaine]

I used to swear by Bolland's Joker, but now in retrospect I still love it but I think the chin is too pointy, I see the Joker more in his Judge Death than his actual Joker.
Kelley Jones' Bloodstorm and The wild' Joker are pretty cool, realistic and very creepy.
Ichi and Nicholson didn't work for me, let's see what Heath does with it and let's pray they don't screw it up this time.

[thedarks0ldier]

i dont know if this has been brought up but, what if the bank robbery scene takes place prior to the end of “begins”, and thats what the “armed robbery double homicide” is about. that would lend more time to have fun with joker stories in the animated tie-in. just a thought

[turtlefocker]

Everyone loves The Joker jsut having him in the movie pumps me up for it

[Yurka]

i dont know if this has been brought up but, what if the bank robbery scene takes place prior to the end of “begins”, and thats what the “armed robbery double homicide” is about. that would lend more time to have fun with joker stories in the animated tie-in. just a thought


Yea that idea has been thrown around.
I dont like the idea of seeing flashbacks of the joker though. he needs no backstory IMO, other than saying hes insane, and a murderer. which they did in begins

[MechaOrga]

here's what i think we'll see for joker's makeup:

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/922/ledjokermorecopygy9.jpg


I love this manip and thought this was sooo spot on.

BUT,

did you know that Jett just recently said this Manip was way off in some respects?

hmmmmm....i have no idea what this joker is going to look like

[turtlefocker]

I hate that manip, I hate the look of this JOKER


but the characterization seems perfect

[gwynplaine]

The Joker should probably be a loner just like Batman, henchmen bring back bad memories of B89.
Killer croc, played by Mickey Rourke, should be his body guard and handle the wet works.
Tony Jaa should be in Batman's costume to do all the fights, anything but the lame action sequences in the overrated Batman Begins.
The Joker should play the harpsichord or the organ for that nice phantom of the opera vibe.
The dark knight, please make dark the operative word like you promised.
Heath Ledger please be like Klaus Kinski, scary, unpredictable and friggin' crazy !

[The Last Meatbag]

Hi welcome to the Hype.


You're a dumb****. Leave now.

[LegendaryCaleb]

Hi welcome to the Hype.


You're a dumb****. Leave now.
i laughed when u told him that....does that make me a bad person? lol

[Untilteld]

I laughed too ^, it's all good

[MAKIEVELLI]

The Joker should probably be a loner just like Batman, henchmen bring back bad memories of B89.
Killer croc, played by Mickey Rourke, should be his body guard and handle the wet works.
Tony Jaa should be in Batman's costume to do all the fights, anything but the lame action sequences in the overrated Batman Begins.
The Joker should play the harpsichord or the organ for that nice phantom of the opera vibe.
The dark knight, please make dark the operative word like you promised.
Heath Ledger please be like Klaus Kinski, scary, unpredictable and friggin' crazy !

This post is one you should edit. It's so bad I'm feeling sorry for you over a computer.:csad:

[gwynplaine]

Wow ! Just trying to initiate a form of dialogue, thanks for the welcome and f**k you too.

[hannya]

Wow ! Just trying to initiate a form of dialogue, thanks for the welcome and f**k you too.

Gwynplaine: don't let it bother you. There are a lot of people on this board who think that spending a huge part of their day online makes them authoritative and intelligent. Next time someone flames you like that just think "Comic Book Guy". Or better still, the guy who terrorized Warcraft in South Park.
By the way the Tony Jaa idea was pretty lame. The problem with the fight scenes in BB was Nolan shooting them too tight. Hopefully he'll open things up a bit for TDK.

[Steelsheen]

kids, take it easy with the name calling. criticize the post, not the poster.


http://www.mywasteofspace.com/heathjoker.jpg

*sigh* whenever i see this, i keep thinking "wasted opportunity" :(

[Acid Snowman]

Has it been established that the double-homicide doesn't have to do with Henry Claridge and the millionaires? I think they said it will have strong ties to Batman #1 and Batman; The Man who Laughs , which makes me suspicious.

[Keyser Soze]

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/922/ledjokermorecopygy9.jpg

That is freaking awesome! If The Joker did end up looking something like this, I certainly wouldn't be complaining.

[Untilteld]

I don't like the lips/scarring in that manip.

[gwynplaine]

Thank you Hannya, I totally agree with you on Nolan's way of filming the fights, and my ideas were probably lame, but I prefer the way you informed me of it. That's what I call dialogue, thank you again.

[gwynplaine]

I love the SP Warcraft episode, I hope they'll spoof TDK somehow.

[gwynplaine]

Thank you Hannya, I totally agree with you on Nolan's way of filming the fight sequences, and it's true my ideas were probably lame, but I prefer the way you informed me of it. That's what I call dialogue, thank you again. Sorry for repeating myself but I couldn't post for a while.

[breyfogle_rules]

Hi welcome to the Hype.


You're a dumb****. Leave now.

Clean up your act dude. People are here to talk about TDK. Does that suprise you?

[breyfogle_rules]

Wow ! Just trying to initiate a form of dialogue, thanks for the welcome and f**k you too.

Well said. You'll get some good info here so stick around! Don't be thrown off by the oafs. (just put them in your ignore list. I just put "meat bag" in mine. And what a nice experience I am having.)

[gwynplaine]

It feels good to read an articulated post, thank you Breyfogle rules. And thanks for the tip too.

[NoName86]

Yea, one thing that never surprises me here at this place is the level of ignorance and immaturity that some folks display. I think they feel that by saying such things they seem authoritative and smart or whatever, but in fact they just look like a bunch of retards.

[gwynplaine]

Well put, nice to see that they are the exceptions rather than the norm.

[Juanigi]

have you guys seen this heath joker fansite? pretty cool drawings on there:

http://chelseagrin.com/gallery.htm

[Crook]

http://chelseagrin.com/images/gallery/004.jpg

That's the best one. :up:

[uchiha_itachi]

drawing 4 is the best

[hannya]

have you guys seen this heath joker fansite? pretty cool drawings on there:

http://chelseagrin.com/gallery.htm

Nice one! I LOVE the third pic. It really captures what the Ledger Joker will (hopefully) be all about. Very well drawn to boot!

[ToddIsDead]

http://chelseagrin.com/images/gallery/004.jpg

That's the best one. :up:

Not really a fan of my Joker having a gaping vagina-like orifice on the side of his face.

[ghost_x]

have you guys seen this heath joker fansite? pretty cool drawings on there:

http://chelseagrin.com/gallery.htm

Picture 3s sick, love it

[Lightning54SC]

i think its about tie the WB give us a ful shot of the J man ... they gave a pic of superman well over a year before the move was released and same with bats... id liek to see the joker now... who agrees with me

[TheBat812]

I don't want to see him until the movie. Hopefully they'll just have little teases in the trailers rather than a full on shot. Save those for the actual movie.

[ghost_x]

I think Sony managed to conceal Venom perfectly throughout production, it's a shame though that they ruined it by overkill nearer the release.

[TheBat812]

I love this manip and thought this was sooo spot on.

BUT,

did you know that Jett just recently said this Manip was way off in some respects?

hmmmmm....i have no idea what this joker is going to look like
Where did he say that? I made the manip, and am curious. Some people who have seen Joker said the face is basically spot on, but obviously, not perfect. Link?

[Juanigi]

http://p088.ezboard.com/fbatmanonfilm81780frm31.showMessage?topicID=66.top ic

[Orko Is King]

I love this manip and thought this was sooo spot on.

BUT,

did you know that Jett just recently said this Manip was way off in some respects?

hmmmmm....i have no idea what this joker is going to look like

Jett needs to STFU. We have several reports from last's filming claiming that manip is pretty much what we'll be getting save for the messy hair.

[Figs]

Jett needs to STFU. We have several reports from last's filming claiming that manip is pretty much what we'll be getting save for the messy hair.


Yeah, he might have said that just because he was butthurt about not being the first to see Joker and say what he looks like.

[Keyser Sushi]

Well put, nice to see that they are the exceptions rather than the norm.

My first reaction to you was actually not unlike Meatbag's... but if you want some friendly advice, I'd say work on your posting style. Making five or six short posts back-to-back doesn't make you look good. Looks like spamming. Posting several thoughts as sentence fragments on separate lines doesn't do much for you, either.

You said you like articulated posts. So make a few. Spend a few words, pick them well, say some insightful or intelligent things, have a sense of humor and above all a thick skin because people ARE going to trash you for while if you're new.

But stick around and give people a chance to know you, and you'll find that this is a great place full of some very nice people, and some people who will always disagree with you and give you different perspectives. That's what keeps me coming back.

[itsthebatman]

Gmynplaine (nice name, btw), listen to Keyser. He... well, he rules. Everyone loves Keyser Sushi.

[donk70]

Not everyone ;)

[gwynplaine]

Thanks for the tips, I welcome disagreement and different perspectives with open arms, I am just not too fond of being insulted, that's all. As for my posts, practice makes perfect, I guess.

[itsthebatman]

Not really a fan of my Joker having a gaping vagina-like orifice on the side of his face.
Dude, what are you on about? There's a hole in his face, but it doesn't look like a you-know-what. Are you smoking something, and if so, can I have some?
Not everyone ;)
Well, you don't like anyone, you sociopath.:cwink:

[donk70]

Well, you don't like anyone, you sociopath.:cwink:
That's true, but I'm not a bigot

I hate everyone equally :woot:

[itsthebatman]

That's true, but I'm not a bigot

I hate everyone equally :woot:
My point exactly. You're an equal opportunities misanthrope.
Shouldn't you be keeping an eye on your kids?:woot:

[donk70]

My point exactly. You're an equal opportunities misanthrope.
Shouldn't you be keeping an eye on your kids?:woot:
Ones staying over night at a friends and the other one is busy with the Xbox

[itsthebatman]

Ones staying over night at a friends and the other one is busy with the Xbox
Ah, modern technology. Where would parenting be without it.

[Keyser Soze]

Gmynplaine (nice name, btw), listen to Keyser. He... well, he rules. Everyone loves Keyser Sushi.

:cmad:

You're such a cock-tease. :o

[itsthebatman]

:cmad:

You're such a cock-tease. :o
*tickles Soze's crotch area*
Amn't I just. I just didn't want any confusion, sport.:o

[Crook]

*tickles Soze's crotch area*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Scared/008.gif

[Yurka]

Jett needs to STFU. We have several reports from last's filming claiming that manip is pretty much what we'll be getting save for the messy hair.


yeah Jett is a moron. we do have multiple reports that that manip is nearly identical to Heath's Joker.

[BubbaGump]

*tickles Soze's crotch area*

:wow:

I just didn't want any confusion, sport.:o

:ninja:

[Keyser Soze]

Would "tickled pink" be an inappropriate expression right about now? :dry:

[BubbaGump]

Would "tickled pink" be an inappropriate expression right about now? :dry:

Right about...

...now.

Yes.

[gwynplaine]

OK, let's try again. What kind of music would you like to hear associated with the Joker in the movie ? Classical, silent film music, Goth, Prince (just kidding) ?

[Keyser Soze]

OK, let's try again. What kind of music would you like to hear associated with the Joker in the movie ? Classical, silent film music, Goth, Prince (just kidding) ?

Oh, we had lots of fun coming up with lists of potential songs earlier! :woot: Though our list seemed to be "songs Joker could torture people while playing". Let's see...

Anything by "The Rolling Stones", pretty much. Especially "Satisfaction" and "Paint It Black".

"Hurdy Gurdy Man" by Donovan, if they hadn't used it for "Zodiac"! :cmad:

"Dimension" by Wolfmother

"The Killing Moon" by Echo & The Bunnymen

"Don't Stop Believing" by Journey

I could go on. But as far as "Joker's theme" goes, I'd expect some suitably atmospheric piece composed as part of the score.

[donk70]

How about something by Danny Elfman? I'm serious

[gwynplaine]

Pretty cool list. For his theme maybe a sad and creepy lullaby along the lines of what Del Toro did in Pan's Labyrinth. And Dany Elfman could probably nail it too.

[gwynplaine]

What do you think are some of the best non-joker Joker performances in cinema (not including Conrad Veidt) ? My list : Mc Dowell in a clockwork orange, Donald Sutherland in MASH, Perkins in Psycho (when he smiles), Joel Grey in Cabaret, John Cazale in Dog day afternoon and Klaus Kinski in anything.

[donk70]

Anthony Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs for the pure mind ****ing that he puts on Jody Foster and the way he "talks" the inmate next to him into dying after he says some pretty nasty things to Clarise

[Sam18]

Maybe some sort of crazy violin music?

[sasquatchs]

Oh, we had lots of fun coming up with lists of potential songs earlier! :woot: Though our list seemed to be "songs Joker could torture people while playing". Let's see...

Anything by "The Rolling Stones", pretty much. Especially "Satisfaction" and "Paint It Black".

"Hurdy Gurdy Man" by Donovan, if they hadn't used it for "Zodiac"! :cmad:

"Dimension" by Wolfmother

"The Killing Moon" by Echo & The Bunnymen

"Don't Stop Believing" by Journey

I could go on. But as far as "Joker's theme" goes, I'd expect some suitably atmospheric piece composed as part of the score.

Yea, I can't see them using anything besides Zimmer/Newton's score. I don't want something wacky but its great to pervert a track like in Zodiac, or contrast what's on screen with far different music. It'll be fun to mix them in fan trailers once the film is released though

[gwynplaine]

Anthony Hopkins in Silence of the lambs is spot on. I hope they go that route in TDK. And I wouldn't mind the crazy violin music either.

[Johnichi Chiba]

What about the Joker humming some of his favorite tunes while he goes to work?

[Batman jr.]

What about the Joker humming some of his favorite tunes while he goes to work?


It's possible :yay: A very Joker thing to do!

[TheBatman072]

Since we're on the subject of possible Joker themes, what about a creepy strings version of Entry of the Gladiators?

[dark_b]

say it is the lighting and i will scream hehe
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/typeorocks/TDK%20Set/Jokercloseup.jpg

panda eyes :wow: :woot:

[Bandyt]

I like the Panda eyes. As for music, Twinkle Twinkle Little Star, or some other creepily sung nursery rhyme. Just worth noting that the Jokers MySpace had Mr. Sandman on it before it got taken down.

[Keyser Soze]

say it is the lighting and i will scream hehe
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/typeorocks/TDK%20Set/Jokercloseup.jpg

panda eyes :wow: :woot:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/typeorocks/TDK%20Set/Jokerwalking.jpg

Purple suit, green hair...

[Keyser Soze]

What do you think are some of the best non-joker Joker performances in cinema (not including Conrad Veidt) ? My list : Mc Dowell in a clockwork orange, Donald Sutherland in MASH, Perkins in Psycho (when he smiles), Joel Grey in Cabaret, John Cazale in Dog day afternoon and Klaus Kinski in anything.

Good idea for discussion! I came up with this a little earlier:

CINEMATIC JOKEROMETRY

http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/recording/pix/clockwork-orange2.jpg

+

http://www.barillo.com/worlds_biggest_scumbags_files/frank%2520booth.jpg

+

http://www.haroldsaxon.co.uk/gallery/saxongallery06.jpg

x

http://www.patfullerton.com/batman/pix/batwallpaper/batwallpaper5.jpg

=

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/JokerFinal.jpg

[Keyser Soze]

I like the Panda eyes. As for music, Twinkle Twinkle Little Star, or some other creepily sung nursery rhyme. Just worth noting that the Jokers MySpace had Mr. Sandman on it before it got taken down.

Here's one out of left-field:

"Can You Feel It?" By The Jacksons.

Just imagine it playing on the radio while some poor sap is tied to a chair, The Joker circling them menacingly with a scalpel.

Can you feel it?
Can you feel it?

Joker sticks a scalpel in their eye.

"CAN YOU FEEL IT? WOOOOO!"

:woot:

[knifeedgedave]

HE adds the makeup to an already joker-esque face i reckon.

[Batman jr.]

Enter Sandman, Metallica
Don't stop believing, Journey (as a message to Batman for not giving up on Gotham, he might be able to save it, they play it, but all of a sudden it stops... oh wait, this has already been done :csad: :woot: )

The memory remains, Metallica ("gone insane...")
Crazy, Aerosmith
Back in black, AC/DC (after Gotham is destroyed and everybody returns)
Shoot to thrill, AC/DC
Highway to hell, AC/DC
Tears of a clown, Smokey Robinson
Yesterday, The Beatles
Mixed emotions, The Rolling Stones
Smack my ***** up, The Prodigy (Bruce about Rachel because he's sick of her whining about justice)
Communication breakdown, Led Zeppelin
Ace of spades, Motörhead
Sunday bloody sunday, U2
Panic attack, Dream Theater

[donk70]

I thought this was kinda cool. Jim Lee's version of The Joker, but look who he dedicated it to.

http://a718.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/7/l_36f584c6cca4d274e8f449d23582d2c5.jpg

[Crook]

Sweet! Hope Heath got it. :up:

[Yurka]

That is awesome,
goddamn I love Jim Lee

[McGarnagle]

That is utterly cool. :up:

[gwynplaine]

The pictures are great (cinematic jokerometry). Other potential non-joker Jokers : Christian Bale in American Psycho, Brandon Lee in the crow, Nicholson in the shining (that's 2 Kubrick movies with a clockwork orange, he too probably had a joker fetish and I would have loved to see his version), Michael Keaton in Beetlejuice and Christopher Lee in The Wicker Man and as Saruman (old joker).

[gwynplaine]

Dark circus music (for all my coulrophobic friends out there), a broken music box, Mozart's Requiem, Gustav Mahler. And the idea of Mr J humming or whistling a tune a la Peter Lorre in M is pretty cool too.

[OSM]

I thought this was kinda cool. Jim Lee's version of The Joker, but look who he dedicated it to.

http://a718.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/7/l_36f584c6cca4d274e8f449d23582d2c5.jpg
That is the most kick ass piece of art I have ever seen. Jim Lee is <3

[donk70]

I found this rather.............disturbing

But he gets his point accross

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1VEl2Uh5jI

[gwynplaine]

A musical seesaw might be a good weird instrument for the Joker's music, so would the harmonium like they used in silent horror film. Maybe Lullaby by the Cure or Pagliacci (I'd love to see a scene where Bruce Wayne goes to see that opera about a sad and tragic clown).
What do you think would be a good Tagline for the movie ? Mine : On July 2008, Joker's wild !

[The Caped Knight]

I thought this was kinda cool. Jim Lee's version of The Joker, but look who he dedicated it to.

http://a718.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/7/l_36f584c6cca4d274e8f449d23582d2c5.jpg

that amazing :cwink:

[ICXCNIKA]

Does anyone think the Joker will actually apply red lipstick/makeup to his lips in this movie, to maybe accentuate the scars, perhaps?:huh: I sure hope not.:csad:

In the "official" pick, it definitely looks like there's red paint of some kind on his bottom lip. And the bottom right side of his lip looks kind of melted. Chemical scars?

[chamber-music]

I think it would be cool if one of the mob guys give joker the 'cut smile' to warn him off because he was messing with their bussiness/turf or something.

[dchisholm]

why can't jim lee draw like THAT in his comics?

[itsthebatman]

Would "tickled pink" be an inappropriate expression right about now? :dry:
You saucy devil.
I'll stop now.
I thought this was kinda cool. Jim Lee's version of The Joker, but look who he dedicated it to.

http://a718.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/7/l_36f584c6cca4d274e8f449d23582d2c5.jpg
That is sweeter than apple pie with fresh cream. Just love it. And the latest spy reports are pretty cool. I'd say things were looking up.

[turtlefocker]

Not a fan of that pic actually.

[itsthebatman]

It's the dedication that rocks my sox. Lee's not my favourite Joker artist either.

[ToddIsDead]

I like Jim Lee's art, but I'm not a huge fan of his Joker.

[donk70]

Same here

[shapeshifter]

me too. his nose looks like a giant.... um...
yeah so new teaser out soon huh. sweet

[gwynplaine]

Likewise, nice colours but it looks too much like a caricature and is not realistic enough. The dedication is cool though. I wish Bolland had done it.

[Steelsheen]

about the dedication:

how sure are we that its meant of Heath Ledger?

Heath isnt exactly a unique name you know....

[Crook]

:dry:

[Comicfan]

I have to ask something...

Whats is the "official" origin of the Joker in the comics...

And what other versions of the origin have been told over the years?

[itsthebatman]

I have to ask something...

Whats is the "official" origin of the Joker in the comics...

And what other versions of the origin have been told over the years?
He's generally acknowledged as being the Red Hood, and fell into a chemical bath after a fight with Batman that turned him insane. The Killing Joke, which retells this story, is NOT the canon version, indeed Dick Grayson says in one recent edition of Detective that he's heard that Joker was a failed comedian before the incident as many times as he's heard he was already a criminal. Batman Confidential is currently telling the definitive version, as I understand.

[Crook]

There should be a damn site outlining all the important stories. I can't keep up with this nonsense. :(

[Comicfan]

He's generally acknowledged as being the Red Hood, and fell into a chemical bath after a fight with Batman that turned him insane. The Killing Joke, which retells this story, is NOT the canon version, indeed Dick Grayson says in one recent edition of Detective that he's heard that Joker was a failed comedian before the incident as many times as he's heard he was already a criminal. Batman Confidential is currently telling the definitive version, as I understand.

I see... I have the killing joke...so basically the official take is that there isn´t one?

[itsthebatman]

I see... I have the killing joke...so basically the official take is that there isn´t one?
that's it in a nutshell.

[donk70]

He's generally acknowledged as being the Red Hood, and fell into a chemical bath after a fight with Batman that turned him insane. The Killing Joke, which retells this story, is NOT the canon version, indeed Dick Grayson says in one recent edition of Detective that he's heard that Joker was a failed comedian before the incident as many times as he's heard he was already a criminal. Batman Confidential is currently telling the definitive version, as I understand.
Ehhh, I hope it's not the definitive version

It's got her in it :wow:

[Comicfan]

Ehhh, I hope it's not the definitive version

It's got her in it :wow:

who is her?

(As you might notice, I haven´t following batman comics for a while)

[itsthebatman]

Ehhh, I hope it's not the definitive version

It's got her in it :wow:
I'm pretty sure it's being touted as such.
Do you mean HQ? If so:
:huh: :cmad: :csad:

[Crook]

What issues are you guys talking about?

[itsthebatman]

What issues are you guys talking about?
I haven't a clue, it was donk70. *points finger*

[donk70]

I'm pretty sure it's being touted as such.
Do you mean HQ? If so:
:huh: :cmad: :csad:
That's who Im referring to, yes

[Steelsheen]

He's generally acknowledged as being the Red Hood, and fell into a chemical bath after a fight with Batman that turned him insane. The Killing Joke, which retells this story, is NOT the canon version, indeed Dick Grayson says in one recent edition of Detective that he's heard that Joker was a failed comedian before the incident as many times as he's heard he was already a criminal. Batman Confidential is currently telling the definitive version, as I understand.

wait a minute... i thought BC isnt continuity?

or was that the All Star line :huh: