The man who laughs: The Joker thread

[darknight7]

Dont ask me captain... the guy is a dork anyways lol

--dk7

[TheBatman072]

...why are you so afraid to admit your age...

Is it because you are a 17 year old kid just causing a ruckus...

or are you embaressed that you are a dad talking to your kids friends on a Batman message board?

:)Just curious

--dk7


I don't think my age is any of your business. Just becuase YOU guys are open books doesn't mean everyone has to be.

[Darkness Falls]

Or...what?

you don't want to know :cmad:

[TheBatman072]

I'm not being smug! I was actually laughing my ass off at those quotes! I really was.

[Darkness Falls]

I don't think my age is any of your business. Just becuase YOU guys are open books doesn't mean everyone has to be.


maybe your one of those people who prey on young boys
that's why we want to know ur age

[TheBatman072]

you don't want to know :cmad:


*snicker*


No I really do. Please tell me.

[darknight7]

For him to be putting a stink up like this...he has to be like 11...

But who cares... its a message board and it is late. I will be immature if I wish to be...

Age shouldnt matter on here...only attitude should, and personally...TheBatman027, no matter what your age is...you have a poor attitude pal. So 11, 18, 22, 45...it doesnt matter...your just a jerk either way

:)

--dk7

[TheBatman072]

maybe your one of those people who prey on young boys
that's why we want to know ur age


Wow. THAT was predictable.

[CaptainClown]

I'm not being smug! I was actually laughing my ass off at those quotes! I really was.

Alright the way it came off is as if it was more mocking which I still get the vibe that it is but oh well.

[TheBatman072]

I'm not a jerk. I'm just honest.


It's not MY fault you guys can't handle a little criticism.

[Darkness Falls]

Wow. THAT was predictable.


so are your lame comebacks

[darknight7]

After that offensive lash back about why we are open...

...clearly proves that he is one of those guys that dates little boys...



--dk7

[TheBatman072]

so are your lame comebacks


Really. Seems to have worked so far. You guys are all in a tizzy, and I'm enjoying myself.


I think I've succeeded.

[CaptainClown]

I will remain making quotes.. But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?
thats one of my favorite

[darknight7]

Well I was having a good time until Mr. Party Pooper came and pooped all over the party...

The guy tweaked on me in another thread for saying that too much has been released for TDK.

I called him some names, but than realised it was uncalled for, and apologized like a real man would.

But the guy just continues to be a jerk...so...:)Im just going to have fun

--dk7

[Gianakin_]

CaptainClown: Since I like your avatar here goes:
You're the king of Jack and sh&t, and Jack just left town!

[CaptainClown]

eh Batman072 I disagree with no reason for me to get mad over anything he has done. (shrug) oh well

Always floss after you eat.

[TheBatman072]

Well I was having a good time until Mr. Party Pooper came and pooped all over the party...

The guy tweaked on me in another thread for saying that too much has been released for TDK.

I called him some names, but than realised it was uncalled for, and apologized like a real man would.

But the guy just continues to be a jerk...so...:)Im just going to have fun

--dk7


Yeah. Becuase calling somebody names is what a REAL man would do.

[darknight7]

TheBatman072...your not the only one laughing...

because I am having a hell of a time pal:)...you are crackin me up

--dk7

[CaptainClown]

It is never right to wear white after labor day.

[CaptainClown]

CaptainClown: Since I like your avatar here goes:
You're the king of Jack and sh&t, and Jack just left town!

I like you gianakin even though you called me king of *****:woot:

[Darkness Falls]

Really. Seems to have worked so far. You guys are all in a tizzy, and I'm enjoying myself.


I think I've succeeded.

you really want a war don't you
u were at me about scarface before
now a discussion that u weren't even part of
plus u seem to be really intrested in us u can't tell us ur age (very Suss)

so why don't u just stop being such a jerk
and get over yourself

[TheBatman072]

TheBatman072...your not the only one laughing...

because I am having a hell of a time pal:)...you are crackin me up

--dk7


Oh I believe you.

[darknight7]

Yeah. Becuase calling somebody names is what a REAL man would do.

Oh...but it is...but it is...

The point is, the respect factor...

one of the hardest things is to admit your wrongs...ESPECIALLY when you are admitting it to some dork like yourself:cwink:

--dk7

[darknight7]

But let me ask you TheBatman072...

Are you trying to make me laugh??

If you are...its working...

--dk7

[Gianakin_]

I think this thread is gone a BIT off-topic. I hope nobody ignites the hunter-signal.

[TheBatman072]

you really want a war don't you
u were at me about scarface before
now a discussion that u weren't even part of
plus u seem to be really intrested in us as u can't tell us ur age (very Suss)

so why don't u just stop being such a jerk
and get over yourself


The reason why I asked your age is becuase I found it absolutely HILARIOUS that a couple of teenagers were posting quotes about enemies and manipulating friends and trusting no one and blah, blah, blah. Sounding like some seasoned vet coming right out of the war or something.

What was the worst thing a friend did to you? And please don't say "stole the woman I loved." I'll bust a gut RIGHT HERE if you do.

[TheBatman072]

Oh...but it is...but it is...

The point is, the respect factor...

one of the hardest things is to admit your wrongs...ESPECIALLY when you are admitting it to some dork like yourself:cwink:

--dk7


I'll let you know when that happens.

[darknight7]

what the hell am i still awake for...the damn sun is starting to set, and I am wasting my time bickering on the net... WHEN I COULD BE SLEEPING...God I LOVE to Sleep:)!!!

WELL, TA TA

--dk7

[Darkness Falls]

The reason why I asked your age is becuase I found it absolutely HILARIOUS that a couple of teenagers were posting quotes about enemies and manipulating friends and trusting no one and blah, blah, blah. Sounding like some seasoned vet coming right out of the war or something.

What was the worst thing a friend did to you? And please don't say "stole the woman I loved." I'll bust a gut RIGHT HERE if you do.

well let me see
beat me half to death
put me in the hospital for 3 weeks

satisfy u JERK

[CaptainClown]

The reason why I asked your age is becuase I found it absolutely HILARIOUS that a couple of teenagers were posting quotes about enemies and manipulating friends and trusting no one and blah, blah, blah. Sounding like some seasoned vet coming right out of the war or something.

What was the worst thing a friend did to you? And please don't say "stole the woman I loved." I'll bust a gut RIGHT HERE if you do.
Well to be fair almost all the quotes about enemies I got from Godfather and really there is no way to judge by our age events that might have actually brought about application of the quotes.

And another thing is that the quotes can be used in a lot of things.

[darknight7]

The reason why I asked your age is becuase I found it absolutely HILARIOUS that a couple of teenagers were posting quotes about enemies and manipulating friends and trusting no one and blah, blah, blah. Sounding like some seasoned vet coming right out of the war or something.

What was the worst thing a friend did to you? And please don't say "stole the woman I loved." I'll bust a gut RIGHT HERE if you do.


STOLE THE WOMAN I LOVE...

Did you gut bust?

NO??...I knew you were full of crap:)

--dk7

[TheBatman072]

well let me see
beat me half to death
put me in the hospital for 3 weeks

satisfy u JERK


Oh, if ONLY there was a way for you to actually PROVE that.

[darknight7]

ya...friends can be jerks man...You gotta watch who you trust...people are deadly these days

--dk7

[TheBatman072]

STOLE THE WOMAN I LOVE...

Did you gut bust?

NO??...I knew you were full of crap:)

--dk7


Isn't it past your bedtime or something?

[Darkness Falls]

Oh, if ONLY there was a way for you to actually PROVE that.


Raises middle finger

[darknight7]

Anyways...

THE MAN WHO LAUGHS...The....JOOOOKKKEEEER...thread

--dk7

[Darkness Falls]

Isn't it past your bedtime or something?

why do u want to know what time he goes to bed

[TheBatman072]

Raises middle finger


Priceless.

[darknight7]

Isn't it past your bedtime or something?


damn right it is, Im dying for a bottle of milk too...lol

im just trying to get this thread back on track...because you know...thats why we are on these boards...

--dk7

[TheBatman072]

why do u want to know what time he goes to bed


So he can stop making a fool of himself?

[darknight7]

He just wants me to get off because he is having fun pissing people off, but Im just laughing...(if I am wrong, than sorry for assuming, but Im just guessing you are one of those people who likes getting a rise out of people and since your not out of me, your fun is over)

--dk7

[Darkness Falls]

So he can stop making a fool of himself?


u seem to be a very disturbed person

[TheBatman072]

He just wants me to get off because he is having fun pissing people off, but Im just laughing...(if I am wrong, than sorry for assuming, but Im just guessing you are one of those people who likes getting a rise out of people and since your not out of me, your fun is over)

--dk7


Even if that was my goal, I've GOTTEN a rise out of you.


But it's not. So...there you go.


Like I said, I'm not a jerk. I'm HONEST.

[darknight7]

fool of myself??...because I am on a message board with people I will never meet ...lol... and even if I did, I would laugh because making a fool does not exist to me. I am not insecure.

--dk7

[TheBatman072]

u seem to be a very disturbed person



"You."


Lookout! Your friend's behind you!

[CaptainClown]

uh huh.. There are two kinds of spurs. Ones that come in through the door and others who come in through the window

[darknight7]

I admit, you did get a rise out of me early, but I just needed some prep time, once I learned how you played this game of yours, I thought Ide pick up some cards and join in

--dk7

[Darkness Falls]

Even if that was my goal, I've GOTTEN a rise out of you.


But it's not. So...there you go.


Like I said, I'm not a jerk. I'm HONEST.


You're very good





at passing yourself off as a JERK

[TheBatman072]

fool of myself??...because I am on a message board with people I will never meet ...lol... and even if I did, I would laugh because making a fool does not exist to me. I am not insecure.

--dk7


...


You just gave up didn't you?

[darknight7]

uh huh.. There are two kinds of spurs. Ones that come in through the door and others who come in through the window

You gotta know this one Captain?

WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH, THE TOUGH GOES SHOPPING!

--dk7

[Darkness Falls]

"You."


Lookout! Your friend's behind you!

LOOK OUt ur mums behind u
sonny


you are very gullible TheBatman072

as if my friend would do that
like life

it was just a game of chess and u fell like a pawn

[TheBatman072]

LOOK OUt ur mums behind u
sonny


http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/originality.jpg

[darknight7]

...


You just gave up didn't you?

lol gave up on what. Making a fool of yourself can only exsist if you let it. Me, I dont care what people think or say ...so personally you can call me all you want or say I made a fool of myself...but I just laugh, because I dont know you, I dont care about you...like think about it.lol, i just dont care...your no one, just some guy messaging me on the net...lol, so that fact that you are still palying this game makes me laugh more, because I gave up a while ago...there is no need to play, its getting old, but you continue?

But I wont ask why, because personally, Idont care...lol

By the wya, Im just being Honest

--dk7

[Darkness Falls]

you are very gullible TheBatman072

as if my friend would do that
like life

it was just a game of chess and u fell like a pawn

[TheBatman072]

lol gave up on what. Making a fool of yourself can only exsist if you let it. Me, I dont care what people think or say ...so personally you can call me all you want or say I made a fool of myself...but I just laugh, because I dont know you, I dont care about you...like think about it.lol, i just dont care...your no one, just some guy messaging me on the net...lol, so that fact that you are still palying this game makes me laugh more, because I gave up a while ago...there is no need to play, its getting old, but you continue?

But I wont ask why, because personally, Idont care...lol

By the wya, Im just being Honest

--dk7


And honesty is always the best policy.

And if you REALLY didn't care, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

[darknight7]

And that wasnt a back lash at you Bat072...

Im just letting you know that I am done, because I am bored. So if I dont play anymore, you know why. Im following Captains route, he just gave up on this game...soo, adios amigo

--dk7

[Gianakin_]

Unbelievable. It went off-topic to the off-topic that had been established.

[darknight7]

So TheBatman072... what do you think of Heaths look as Joker

did you see the spy pics

--dk7

[TheBatman072]

And that wasnt a back lash at you Bat072...

Im just letting you know that I am done, because I am bored. So if I dont play anymore, you know why. Im following Captains route, he just gave up on this game...soo, adios amigo

--dk7


Third time's the charm.

[Darkness Falls]

And honesty is always the best policy.

And if you REALLY didn't care, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

we're only having the conversation because u
were out to ruin our fun

BTW did u read my last post

[darknight7]

Actually this goes out to everyone...Heath...with his runny make up in those pic...did you guys think that was cool looking, or did it kind of bother yuo?

personally I think it was cool...it looks like he took a bit of a punt...

I just hope most of hte time he looks cleaend uop

--dk7

[darknight7]

adios amigo meaning. I want to get back on topic. and say goodbye to the old one.

By the way, The Jokers socks are FRICKING AWESOME!!! i just wanted to point that out
--dk7

[CaptainClown]

I can't believe you guys really argued with him for so long.

[darknight7]

tonight just got my posts WAY up there...only 7050 to go and I can get a bigger AVVY:)

--dk7

[Darkness Falls]

adios amigo meaning. I want to get back on topic. and say goodbye to the old one.

By the way, The Jokers socks are FRICKING AWESOME!!! i just wanted to point that out
--dk7

while i respect your attempts to get back on toppic
I dont' think it will last
the joker socks are cool

[TheBatman072]

you are very gullible TheBatman072

as if my friend would do that
like life

it was just a game of chess and u fell like a pawn


Gullible:

easily deceived or cheated.


See, being 16, you might not have known that. But I called you on that crap from the beginning.

[darknight7]

I know Captain...whats with that.

But anyways did you see my post:

WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH, THE TOUGH GOES SHOPPING
What are some other good quotes from that epsiode

(Batman says something when he gets to Jokers boat of garbage)

Something like: Just your style Joker, IM here to clean you up. SOMETHING like that

--dk7

[TheBatman072]

we're only having the conversation because u
were out to ruin our fun

BTW did u read my last post


I didn't ruin anything. I asked a question and was perfectly content with the answer. You guys got all offended and started whining at me.

[CaptainClown]

actually that sounds very familiar. I have to bust out that episode again.

[darknight7]

while i respect your attempts to get back on toppic
I dont' think it will last
the joker socks are cool

It isnt hard...

I love how Heath looks, but ...I wish his face was just a BIIIIT more classic Joker. Because his lenth and everything is awesome

--dk7

[TheBatman072]

Well, this thread is finally back on freakin' topic, and it's 5:48 in the morning. I'm out.


And yeah, it'll still say I'm logged on. Becuase I don't bother to log OUT when I turn of my computer. So I'm actually not really here.

[Darkness Falls]

Gullible:

easily deceived or cheated.


See, being 16, you might not have known that. But I called you on that crap from the beginning.

i am well aware on the defininition
thats why i wrote it


DDDDDDDDDDDUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHH


anyway ur post bore me

so

DARKNESS FALLS 1

THEBATMAN072 0

and if i were you (plus a brain) i would stop trying to be a internet bully as no one is buying it

[CaptainClown]

um k i'll take note of that...

[darknight7]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wEBLOSkBMZ4

HAHAHHA

[darknight7]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wEBLOSkBMZ4
--dk7

[darknight7]

I want to see Heath pull out a voice like that

Anyways im off.
Peace guys

--dk7

[Gianakin_]

Bye mate, see you again later.

[Mr. Socko]

Just read Man Who Laughs, great comic. Noticed that there's a scene in the comic where Gordon says Joker's fingerprints aren't in the database and they've interrogated him and have gotten nothing out of him, it appears as if he doesn't even know who he is.

[itsthebatman]

Just read Man Who Laughs, great comic. Noticed that there's a scene in the comic where Gordon says Joker's fingerprints aren't in the database and they've interrogated him and have gotten nothing out of him, it appears as if he doesn't even know who he is.
You just read it for the first time today? Great read, love Joker's characterisation. Doug Mahnke's work is awesome to behold.

[Mr. Socko]

Yep, first time. Joker's characterization was definitely one of my favorite versions. The art was great, had a very gritty feel to it, I loved it.

Just wondering though, when was it first released?

[itsthebatman]

I got it June 2005 (around the time Begins came out, actually). I don't think it was long out by then. Did you read Batman and the Mad Monk yet (it links to TMWL at the end)?

[gdw]

Well, this certainly did not warrant a thread of its own, so I figure I'll say it here.

As much as i would like to see some things a bit different with the DK Joker, when you think about it;


The Joker is a man who was disfigured to look like a clown/harlequin, and he embraced that disfigurement and ran with it into insanity (and genius).

I doubt ANYONE could argue that as being an accurate description of the Joker. Very true to his core and boiled down to what he really is.

Now I also can't see how you can't describe the "HeathJoker: in exactly the same way.

Again, I would have LOVED if he looked just like that fake with the colour chart, but this is what we have.

[TromaFreak64]

Well, this certainly did not warrant a thread of its own, so I figure I'll say it here.

As much as i would like to see some things a bit different with the DK Joker, when you think about it;


The Joker is a man who was disfigured to look like a clown/harlequin, and he embraced that disfigurement and ran with it into insanity (and genius).

I doubt ANYONE could argue that as being an accurate description of the Joker. Very true to his core and boiled down to what he really is.

Now I also can't see how you can't describe the "HeathJoker: in exactly the same way.

Again, I would have LOVED if he looked just like that fake with the colour chart, but this is what we have.

First, THANKS for not making a new thread for that, but to let you know, I very much see where you are coming from with that analysis.

[xmenrules]

What are some of the large action sequences between Batman and The Joker? Also, will The Joker have all those chemicals?

[Bishop]

What are some of the large action sequences between Batman and The Joker?

all that's confirmed so far is that Batman beats the snot out of the Joker in an interrogation room.

[TheBatman072]

What are some of the large action sequences between Batman and The Joker?


Batman in the Tumbler or Bat-Pod chasing Joker in an 18 wheeler.

[BubbaGump]

I just went back a few pages and why the hell was there a big argument?

[Spade]

I just went back a few pages and why the hell was there a big argument?

That's the epic question of the Batman Begins forum. A few years later, we still haven't answered it.

[CaptainClown]

which argument?

[TheBatman072]

Isn't this entire forum basically one great big arguement?

[Spade]

I recently discovered the excess testosterone this place is dripping in makes for a good cleanser to shine my posts with. :up:

[Untilteld]

Hey Chibi, did you just add me on xbox live?

[Spade]

If my X-Box had X-Box Live, I would add you Geekz...but I can't say I have.

[Untilteld]

Hmm, cause someone added me with that exact name you have, thought it'd be you.

[darknight7]

Does anyone have any screencaps of panels form TMWL? I am curious of what the artwork looks like...

--dk7

[darknight7]

It has been said over and over that The Joker was influenced by Conrad Veidt's character from The Man Who Laughs...

Kind of interesting description I just found (which is the synopsis for the movie THE MAN WHO LAUGHS):


Gwynplaine, son of Lord Clancharlie, has a permanent smile carved on his face by the King, in revenge for Gwynplaine's father's treachery. Gwynplaine is adopted by a travelling showman and becomes a popular idol. He falls in love with the blind Dea. The king dies, and his evil jester tries to destroy or corrupt Gwynplaine. Unlike in the original story by Victor Hugo, the lovers escape to France.


Interesting how Heath's Joker now has a CARVED smile, but in the comics he was usually just a guy with a big grin...

:joker:

--dk7

[gwynplaine]

It has been said over and over that The Joker was influenced by Conrad Veidt's character from The Man Who Laughs...

Kind of interesting description I just found (which is the synopsis for the movie THE MAN WHO LAUGHS):





Interesting how Heath's Joker now has a CARVED smile, but in the comics he was usually just a guy with a big grin...

:joker:

--dk7
The comprachicos, a band of nomads, mentionned in the Victor Hugo novel used to kidnap children and turn them into monsters, hence the carved smile on poor little Gwynplaine, before selling them to various courts around Europe.

[Mr. Socko]

Lee Bermejo's Joker actually has a gruesome carved smile however I don't believe it's been used inside the comics, just covers and single illustrations he has drawn. I'm not a big fan though.

[darknight7]

I like the idea, it's different, either way works for me.

I just find it interesting that it has never been touched upon (in detail)...in the comics, considering The Joker's influence had a carved smile

--dk7

[Noir]

The Carved smile is just a way to get the bigger grin that the Joker has always had :D

[gwynplaine]

When the opening of TDK gets closer will probably get a few comics with the carved smile, so we'll see how the artists handle it. I'd love to see the Joker go back to his origin and be drawn, not with a carved smile necessary, but like Conrad Veidt or more in the manner of Bob Kane's original art.

[Noir]

When the opening of TDK gets closer will probably get a few comics with the carved smile, so we'll see how the artists handle it. I'd love to see the Joker go back to his origin and be drawn, not with a carved smile necessary, but like Conrad Veidt or more in the manner of Bob Kane's original art.
In the latest Batman comics the Joker already sports a cut smile. :dry:

[Spade]

Didn't they backtrack on that already?

[Noir]

Didn't they backtrack on that already?Just in Countdown I believe.

[darknight7]

NOIR, I like your avvvy

--dk7

[Noir]

NOIR, I like your avvvy

--dk7Thanks. Cobra + Decepticons = Always awesome.

[darknight7]

I'm not to good with G.I. JOE, so don't laugh at me...

But I thought that was...a Cobracon logo or something...with Decepticons in the middle...

If that is what it is?:confused:

--dk7

[360sculptguy]

So the original inspiration for the Joker was from a film based on a story about a character who had a carved smile. So doesn't it make sense then that the makers of the TDK film might think a carved smile would be a viable option for the core of Joker's character? As opposed to say an ill fitting chemical bath?

(church lady voice)
Hmmm... Its a mystery.

You might get your chemical bath at some point but the carved smile serves the same purpose to drive Mr. Kerr towards his Joker obsession. The significance, or the impact, or the motivation caused by his bleaching is still there. One, he can't look like everyone else. Two, he looks like a clown. And three, he is sent over the top to insanity. But maybe it isn't spelled out in neon and he doesn't look enough like a clown, right? Well, then put some frickin white make-up on him and be grateful that it's plausible. The more gimmicks they come up with to make this villain, from this director, in this movie, in this sequel, in this previously established style look exactly like the character with the over the top comic book origin, the more it will be ridiculously out of place and the film will suffer. Thats just Movies 101. Now, if you still can't fathom why there need to be differences, Comics 101 is down the hall. I'm sure there you'll be aces.

[Mr. Socko]

The Carved smile is just a way to get the bigger grin that the Joker has always had :D


That's what I figured it was for in the film. In the comics, The Joker's grin is extremely exaggerated, much bigger than any person's normal grin. The only way to get this effect is to add something to a live action Joker's face. In the 60s, they simply extended the lipstick beyond Romero's lips. In '89, they gave Jack a perma-grin, and now in TDK, Heath will have a scarred smile. All of these things are used to make the Joker's grin appear wider. But now in TDK, it seems like the scarred smile will also serve the story.

[Crook]

That's what I figured it was for in the film. In the comics, The Joker's grin is extremely exaggerated, much bigger than any person's normal grin. The only way to get this effect is to add something to a live action Joker's face. In the 60s, they simply extended the lipstick beyond Romero's lips. In '89, they gave Jack a perma-grin, and now in TDK, Heath will have a scarred smile. All of these things are used to make the Joker's grin appear wider. But now in TDK, it seems like the scarred smile will also serve the story.
Jack's grin wasn't actually wider though. They just made Jack's already naturally wide grin into a fixed position.

Imo, they don't really need to translate the obnoxiously large grin. We don't expect our superheroes to look like steroid-infused bodybuilders, so I don't see why we'd need a direct translation for this.

[Mr. Socko]

Jack's grin wasn't actually wider though. They just made Jack's already naturally wide grin into a fixed position.

Imo, they don't really need to translate the obnoxiously large grin. We don't expect our superheroes to look like steroid-infused bodybuilders, so I don't see why we'd need a direct translation for this.


It could just be a small coincidence that I'm just looking into too much:oldrazz:

[Noir]

I'm not to good with G.I. JOE, so don't laugh at me...

But I thought that was...a Cobracon logo or something...with Decepticons in the middle...

If that is what it is?:confused:

--dk7

It is, from the Devil's Due series G.I. Joe/Transformers comic. I'm only saying its Cobra + Decepticons because well it is. and its ass-kicking awesome.

[darknight7]

Ya it totally is awesome!
--dk7

[Noir]

Ya it totally is awesome!
--dk7
I wish I could find someone who would animate it so the the Cobra logo zooms back from the screen and locks into place then the Decepticon logo zooms back and locks into the middle then the both zoom back towards the screen.

[darknight7]

Ask around on here, many people have animated avatars and are usually willing to help out. I would do it if I could...

sorry noir

--dk7

[Noir]

Its okay.

Did everyone see my Manip of the Leaked Ledger?

[turtlefocker]

I never saw the manip you speak of

[CaptainClown]

the chef one ya.. perfect

[Yurka]

noooo I want to though, some of the manips of the leaked pics I've seen have been pretty cool.

[Mr. Socko]

noooo I want to though, some of the manips of the leaked pics I've seen have been pretty cool.


I haven't seen any manips of the leaked pics:csad:

[CaptainClown]

Noir did one of the smiling Joker with the makeup running down and he put the 89 chef attire on him. It's really funny

[turtlefocker]

Id liked to have seen that.


I wasn't here for the X3 picks leak. How long until WB will lighten up and let us post them? If ever.

[turtlefocker]

EDIT -double psot

[CaptainClown]

they will when they officially release the photos =)

[Noir]

Okay here is the link, I can't post the actual pic because Hunter doesn't want me to.

http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p237/AetherTank/?action=view&current=jack11.jpg

[Nessy]

Haha, great :up: Looks really good :D

[Noir]

Thanks.

[The Caped Knight]

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x315/tsukiwriter/Comic%20Scans/cg01.jpg

[CaptainClown]

heh

[The Caped Knight]

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/beyond/episodes/rotj/media/12laughanyway.mp3

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/beyond/episodes/rotj/media/13adversary.mp3

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/beyond/episodes/rotj/media/112.jpg
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/beyond/episodes/rotj/media/16senseofhumor.mp3

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/beyond/episodes/rotj/media/17makemelaugh.mp3

[Ender Durden]

return of the joker Joker is probly my favorite depection of the joker ever

[CaptainClown]

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/beyond/episodes/rotj/media/12laughanyway.mp3

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/beyond/episodes/rotj/media/13adversary.mp3

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/beyond/episodes/rotj/media/112.jpg
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/beyond/episodes/rotj/media/16senseofhumor.mp3

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/beyond/episodes/rotj/media/17makemelaugh.mp3

I love Joker and how Joker keeps calling Terry a punk and not batman

[Agentsands77]

Jack's grin wasn't actually wider though. They just made Jack's already naturally wide grin into a fixed position.

Imo, they don't really need to translate the obnoxiously large grin. We don't expect our superheroes to look like steroid-infused bodybuilders, so I don't see why we'd need a direct translation for this.
Perhaps we don't need a direct translation, but it is interesting to see the wide smile inspire something else.

Nevermind that the carved smile ties back to Gwynplaine and The Man Who Laughs, bringing some of the Joker's inspiration back into the character. I'm certainly on board with that.

[Darkness Falls]

I have a question for those who were at ww
about the leaked pic of batman behind joker in interrogation room
is the jokers hair messed up or ripped out

[Gianakin_]

I love Joker and how Joker keeps calling Terry a punk and not batman

What's more funny is, he's right. Terry could be the son of Peter Parker with all that characterization. It's like Spidey having to borrow Bruce's costume because his was torn.

[Darkness Falls]

at the end of batman of the future series
wasn't terry bruce's son?

[CaptainClown]

Ya terry was bruces son. But that was what I loved about Terry, he wasn't Bruce. He even made fun of Bruce but had similar elements. It wasn't like a new kid who is exactly like the predecessor, but a new hero.

[NoName86]

Tonight while I was working I began to wonder yet again about whether Joker is indeed fully bleached white or if he is wearing make up, and something someone said a time ago came back to me and now, in light of the description we got of the WW footage, something has occurred to me. Nolan likes to ground these a bit, but at the same time fans feel that the bleached skin is both part of the character as well as "within the realm of realism". Then it hit me, the line Gordon said about Joker in the WW footage. "No id, no fingerprints, custom clothes". Is anyone else getting the feeling that the Joker will mose surely be this enigma, this myserious man who no on understand. Maybe then Nolan will go this route:No one will ever definitively know whether Joker is bleached or make up. Make hints that he is indeed wearing make up only to hint in some way he is bleached fully, and then just keep flipping it on us, keeping us guessing. I think that is something that everyone will mostly feel comfortable with. I know there are probably a few flaws, one being when he gets caught and they try to wipe the make up off. Who knows...just throwing ideas out there....personally I love the idea of us never really knowing. It stays true to the character, as well as adding mystery.

[Gianakin_]

Ya terry was bruces son. But that was what I loved about Terry, he wasn't Bruce. He even made fun of Bruce but had similar elements. It wasn't like a new kid who is exactly like the predecessor, but a new hero.

Yeah, I like that when it happens, too. However, Terry was, like I said, too much of a Peter Parker clone. The best passing-the-torch relationship for me, where the new guy is different that the previous, has to be Banderas-Hopkins in the Mask of Zorro. Now, THAT was a good legacy film.

[CaptainClown]

Well he really was only like Parker in that movie. He does come off as Peter Parker though so if they brought it back I think they would need to give him different problems. Like he is hot headed (cliche but still could work) well more hot headed then usual.

Ya I liked Banderas-Hopkins passing the torch. Banderas was funny in Zorro.

[TromaFreak64]

Tonight while I was working I began to wonder yet again about whether Joker is indeed fully bleached white or if he is wearing make up, and something someone said a time ago came back to me and now, in light of the description we got of the WW footage, something has occurred to me. Nolan likes to ground these a bit, but at the same time fans feel that the bleached skin is both part of the character as well as "within the realm of realism". Then it hit me, the line Gordon said about Joker in the WW footage. "No id, no fingerprints, custom clothes". Is anyone else getting the feeling that the Joker will mose surely be this enigma, this myserious man who no on understand. Maybe then Nolan will go this route:No one will ever definitively know whether Joker is bleached or make up. Make hints that he is indeed wearing make up only to hint in some way he is bleached fully, and then just keep flipping it on us, keeping us guessing. I think that is something that everyone will mostly feel comfortable with. I know there are probably a few flaws, one being when he gets caught and they try to wipe the make up off. Who knows...just throwing ideas out there....personally I love the idea of us never really knowing. It stays true to the character, as well as adding mystery.

I've consider this option and thought it was VERY much possible... similar to never saying if Ra's was or was not immortal but leaving hints that are interpreted different ways by different people - some thing his lines were mocking, some think they were honest -- regardless I believe the Joker may very well be done this way.

[CaptainClown]

There are soo many different routes Nolan could use based on the photos we really wont know for 11 months or so.

[Darkness Falls]

That sounds very interesting
as each pic of the joker has been different
we really have no clue

[NoName86]

I've consider this option and thought it was VERY much possible... similar to never saying if Ra's was or was not immortal but leaving hints that are interpreted different ways by different people - some thing his lines were mocking, some think they were honest -- regardless I believe the Joker may very well be done this way.Precisely.

[MAKIEVELLI]

Tonight while I was working I began to wonder yet again about whether Joker is indeed fully bleached white or if he is wearing make up, and something someone said a time ago came back to me and now, in light of the description we got of the WW footage, something has occurred to me. Nolan likes to ground these a bit, but at the same time fans feel that the bleached skin is both part of the character as well as "within the realm of realism". Then it hit me, the line Gordon said about Joker in the WW footage. "No id, no fingerprints, custom clothes". Is anyone else getting the feeling that the Joker will mose surely be this enigma, this myserious man who no on understand. Maybe then Nolan will go this route:No one will ever definitively know whether Joker is bleached or make up. Make hints that he is indeed wearing make up only to hint in some way he is bleached fully, and then just keep flipping it on us, keeping us guessing. I think that is something that everyone will mostly feel comfortable with. I know there are probably a few flaws, one being when he gets caught and they try to wipe the make up off. Who knows...just throwing ideas out there....personally I love the idea of us never really knowing. It stays true to the character, as well as adding mystery.

After seeing the leaked pics I'm like 95% sure the man is wearing makeup. 96% actually.:dry: I don't care how much I love the rest of the movie, if the man turns out to be wearing makeup it will always be a dark spot with me. Kind of like Katie Holmes in Batman Begins.

[NoName86]

After seeing the leaked pics I'm like 95% sure the man is wearing makeup. 96% actually.:dry: I don't care how much I love the rest of the movie, if the man turns out to be wearing makeup it will always be a dark spot with me. Kind of like Katie Holmes in Batman Begins.I'm just saying, you never know. I share your ideas though. I'm almost positive that I'll enjoy the Joker in this film, but if he is indeed just wearing make up it would kill some of the enthusiasm for me. Yup, it's me being picky but now I'm pretty much to a point where, even if he is indeed wearing make up, as long as I never see his real face without the make up then I'll get along fine. Grranted though it would lessen some of my enthusiasm. That said, you never really know...Nolan could always be pulling a fast one on us, and if he were then obviously he wouldn't make it so obvious that Joker isn't wearing make up. That would kill the surprise.

[KrypJonian]

Yeah, I like that when it happens, too. However, Terry was, like I said, too much of a Peter Parker clone. The best passing-the-torch relationship for me, where the new guy is different that the previous, has to be Banderas-Hopkins in the Mask of Zorro. Now, THAT was a good legacy film.

I agree 100%

[KrypJonian]

Tonight while I was working I began to wonder yet again about whether Joker is indeed fully bleached white or if he is wearing make up, and something someone said a time ago came back to me and now, in light of the description we got of the WW footage, something has occurred to me. Nolan likes to ground these a bit, but at the same time fans feel that the bleached skin is both part of the character as well as "within the realm of realism". Then it hit me, the line Gordon said about Joker in the WW footage. "No id, no fingerprints, custom clothes". Is anyone else getting the feeling that the Joker will mose surely be this enigma, this myserious man who no on understand. Maybe then Nolan will go this route:No one will ever definitively know whether Joker is bleached or make up. Make hints that he is indeed wearing make up only to hint in some way he is bleached fully, and then just keep flipping it on us, keeping us guessing. I think that is something that everyone will mostly feel comfortable with. I know there are probably a few flaws, one being when he gets caught and they try to wipe the make up off. Who knows...just throwing ideas out there....personally I love the idea of us never really knowing. It stays true to the character, as well as adding mystery.

I've been out of the loop for a while...is that the Watman Wegins footage?

Oh, you mean Wizard World, I haven't seen that....:whatever:

[LexCorp]

They need to have Patrick Bateman as a suprise villian in the film lol

[Two-Sided-Deal]

After seeing the leaked pics I'm like 95% sure the man is wearing makeup. 96% actually.:dry: I don't care how much I love the rest of the movie, if the man turns out to be wearing makeup it will always be a dark spot with me. Kind of like Katie Holmes in Batman Begins.

Doubtful that they would go the same route again with the film. Ra's being Ducard was a tricky twist, but leaving hints all over the film and keeping us guessing is just dumb. They need to give us the exact detail and leave it that way.

[KrypJonian]

There's no way I'm going to look through 577 pages to respond to Makievelli, so I'll just add on.

HE'S WEARING MAKEUP. IT'S NOT JACK NICHOLSON, GET OVER IT.

Now I'm sure you'll enjoy the movie more.

[Two-Sided-Deal]

There's no way I'm going to look through 577 pages to respond to Makievelli, so I'll just add on.

HE'S WEARING MAKEUP. IT'S NOT JACK NICHOLSON, GET OVER IT.

Now I'm sure you'll enjoy the movie more.

Yeah. Wat' he said!

[Mr. Socko]

There's no way I'm going to look through 577 pages to respond to Makievelli, so I'll just add on.

HE'S WEARING MAKEUP. IT'S NOT JACK NICHOLSON, GET OVER IT.

Now I'm sure you'll enjoy the movie more.


Don't look now...but I think you're being stalked.

[Mercurius]

I, for one, would like if it could depart from Nicholson a lot more than it seems to do by now.

The picture with the watered make up in the interrogation room and even the way they enlarged Ledger's mouth there are too Nicholson-like.

[The Caped Knight]

return of the joker Joker is probly my favorite depection of the joker ever

WORD

[Untilteld]

Jack Nicholson Joker is teh suck

[Vile]

There's no way I'm going to look through 577 pages to respond to Makievelli, so I'll just add on.

HE'S WEARING MAKEUP. IT'S NOT JACK NICHOLSON, GET OVER IT.

Now I'm sure you'll enjoy the movie more.


Indeed, in all actuality we probably should have seen the make-up coming - lets face it, Jack left a MAJOR impression on the free world as The Joker, bleached skin and all. Seems to me Nolan is trying to be as different as he can in terms of the character appearance without changing the character personality.

Whereas Jack's Joker was forced to become the Joker ala the comics (ie chemical bath, bleached skin, green hair, yadda yadda) Nolan's Joker is a man who CHOOSES to be the Joker by applying Make-up and whatnot; considering how screwed up the Joker is....thats pretty disturbing and hardly a 'new origin' I have a problem with.

Yes, I'm all for perma-clown and I would love Nolan to surprise us with a surprise bleaching job but if not it will hardly ruin the film for me - Nolan's Joker is turning out fantastic!

I only hope if/when Nolan's Joker blows all other screen-Jokers out of the water the comics dont try and re-conn the bleached skin (ie: Spidey with organic webs).

It might be awesome in the film, but leave comic Joker alone!

[Figs]

Indeed, in all actuality we probably should have seen the make-up coming - lets face it, Jack left a MAJOR impression on the free world as The Joker, bleached skin and all. Seems to me Nolan is trying to be as different as he can in terms of the character appearance without changing the character personality.

Whereas Jack's Joker was forced to become the Joker ala the comics (ie chemical bath, bleached skin, green hair, yadda yadda) Nolan's Joker is a man who CHOOSES to be the Joker by applying Make-up and whatnot; considering how screwed up the Joker is....thats pretty disturbing and hardly a 'new origin' I have a problem with.

Yes, I'm all for perma-clown and I would love Nolan to surprise us with a surprise bleaching job but if not it will hardly ruin the film for me - Nolan's Joker is turning out fantastic!

I only hope if/when Nolan's Joker blows all other screen-Jokers out of the water the comics dont try and re-conn the bleached skin (ie: Spidey with organic webs).

It might be awesome in the film, but leave comic Joker alone!


Don't be surprised if they do. Sometimes the comic companies can be pretty shameless.

[Vile]

Don't be surprised if they do. Sometimes the comic companies can be pretty shameless.


Then we'll riot in the streets! :woot:

[Figs]

Then we'll riot in the streets! :woot:


Oh Yes! The streets will run red with blood!

[Lunar_Wolf]

Never liked Jack as Joker too much, but my fav line in that whole movie was ''Oh, that Joker:woot: ''.

[SeattleBatman]

Never liked Jack as Joker too much, but my fav line in that whole movie was ''Oh, that Joker:woot: ''.

I believe you mean, "Love that Joker.."

http://www.patfullerton.com/batman/pix/joker/joker1989b-sm.jpg

[Lunar_Wolf]

I believe you mean, "Love that Joker.."

http://www.patfullerton.com/batman/pix/joker/joker1989b-sm.jpg
Ah thats the line!!!!

[deathfromabove]

Well, this certainly did not warrant a thread of its own, so I figure I'll say it here.

As much as i would like to see some things a bit different with the DK Joker, when you think about it;


The Joker is a man who was disfigured to look like a clown/harlequin, and he embraced that disfigurement and ran with it into insanity (and genius).

I doubt ANYONE could argue that as being an accurate description of the Joker. Very true to his core and boiled down to what he really is.

Now I also can't see how you can't describe the "HeathJoker: in exactly the same way.

Again, I would have LOVED if he looked just like that fake with the colour chart, but this is what we have.

exactly.

although i think the fake picture was kinda sucky.

[Yurka]

Jack Nicholson Joker is teh suck


:down

eat my tits Geekz

[Mr. Socko]

Indeed, in all actuality we probably should have seen the make-up coming - lets face it, Jack left a MAJOR impression on the free world as The Joker, bleached skin and all. Seems to me Nolan is trying to be as different as he can in terms of the character appearance without changing the character personality.

Whereas Jack's Joker was forced to become the Joker ala the comics (ie chemical bath, bleached skin, green hair, yadda yadda) Nolan's Joker is a man who CHOOSES to be the Joker by applying Make-up and whatnot; considering how screwed up the Joker is....thats pretty disturbing and hardly a 'new origin' I have a problem with.

Yes, I'm all for perma-clown and I would love Nolan to surprise us with a surprise bleaching job but if not it will hardly ruin the film for me - Nolan's Joker is turning out fantastic!

I only hope if/when Nolan's Joker blows all other screen-Jokers out of the water the comics dont try and re-conn the bleached skin (ie: Spidey with organic webs).

It might be awesome in the film, but leave comic Joker alone!

Completely agree. I hadn't even thought of the "Jack had to be Joker, Ledger chooses to be Joker" angle. As I had put it before.

Nicholson: Shorter, fat, zany, light purple clothing, fully green pompadour hair, permanent-grin, bleached skin

Heath: Tall, skinny, psychotic, dark purple clothing, partially long green hair, scarred-grin, dark circles, makeup for effects

It appears to me that they're going the opposite of Nicholson while still essentially bringing the same character to screen.

[turtlefocker]

Nicholson: Shorter, fat, zany, light purple clothing, fully green pompadour hair, permanent-grin, bleached skin

Heath: Tall, skinny, psychotic, dark purple clothing, partially long green hair, scarred-grin, dark circles, makeup for effects



Good observation

[donk70]

IMO, it's more than comic fans wanting Ledger to be a carbon copy of Jack's Joker, it's comic fans wanting Ledger to resemble the canon Joker. Truth be told, Jack's was more in line with the comics looks wise, but a tad more tame than what we were seeing in the comics at the time. B89 came out after Joker killed Jason Todd, so the Joker was already a homicidal maniac. The Joker killed in B89, Burton just didn't delve into the psyche like Nolan is rumored to.

Personally, I feel that the Joker can be a serial killer AND still retain his canon look. If Nolan wants the movie goer to be filled with terror, why not rely on his actor who is portraying the Joker to convey how sick and demented the Joker is? By all accounts, Ledger has nailed the persona, and I'm eagerly waiting this Joker on screen. IMO, Jack was a little too tame for the Joker but the look was great. Would I have liked Jack to be a little taller and a little thinner back then? Sure I do, but the costume and makeup looked great. I think if Jack was 20 years younger then and in better physical condition, we wouldn't hear the complaints about his Jokers physical appearance.

[regwec]

IMO, it's more than comic fans wanting Ledger to be a carbon copy of Jack's Joker, it's comic fans wanting Ledger to resemble the canon Joker.

You're absolutely right, but it's futile to point that out to people who are unable to distinguish the two.

[Bishop]

WORD


and the word is: no.

[Bishop]

Jack Nicholson Joker is teh suck

Jack Nicholson Joker is teh product of a different era and thus responding to it now and comparing it to modern Joker is teh silly

[FlawlessVictory]

This was brought this up in the make-up Joker thread:

I mentioned this earlier: Is it possible that the part we do see in these pictures is his real face (from chemical burn/scarring) after a wash, and that he just uses makeup to complete the clown look?

People have said before he was permawhite. But maybe he's inconsistently permawhite, splotchy and what-not.

How does this sit with people? I like this idea.

[gwynplaine]

Completely agree. I hadn't even thought of the "Jack had to be Joker, Ledger chooses to be Joker" angle. As I had put it before.

Nicholson: Shorter, fat, zany, light purple clothing, fully green pompadour hair, permanent-grin, bleached skin

Heath: Tall, skinny, psychotic, dark purple clothing, partially long green hair, scarred-grin, dark circles, makeup for effects

It appears to me that they're going the opposite of Nicholson while still essentially bringing the same character to screen.
Good observation.

[turtlefocker]

http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/images/2004/jan7/joker.jpg

http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/images/2004/jan7/jokerinrepose.jpg

http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/images/2004/jan7/jokervsbatman.jpg

http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/images/2004/jan7/chiefjoker.jpg

[Crook]

This was brought this up in the make-up Joker thread:

How does this sit with people? I like this idea.
That logic might have applied for the WSS pic, but not for the leaked ones. The cracks of his face being a single color is a dead give-away.

[gwynplaine]

http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/images/2004/jan7/joker.jpg

http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/images/2004/jan7/jokerinrepose.jpg

http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/images/2004/jan7/jokervsbatman.jpg

http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/images/2004/jan7/chiefjoker.jpg
Bob Kane's Joker is magnificent. I love how he is capable of different expression and doesn't have the permasmile.The pimp Joker still cool but not as great.
As for the splotchy theory who knows, a skin diseased patient would more likely have them than the permawhite look seen in the comics.

[Mr. Socko]

The Pimp Joker is actually one of my all time favorites. Those pinstripe pants and that purple fedora! lol

I also love the pre-Joker pic of his face next to it. Who drew that one?

[TheComicbookKid]

Can I ask this? Why does everyone think the twist in the movie involves the Joker and not another character? Assuming there is a twist at all.

[Mr. Thing]

Can I ask this? Why does everyone think the twist in the movie involves the Joker and not another character? Assuming there is a twist at all.

It's a Nolan movie, there's bound to be some sort of twist, no matter how big or small.

[Bishop]

Can I ask this? Why does everyone think the twist in the movie involves the Joker and not another character? Assuming there is a twist at all.

well, the joker is one of two central characters. we've already seen Batman's past, but we know nothing of Joker. therefore, it makes sense that he's hiding something, he's behind something, or he's not as he seems.

[Mr. Socko]

But will TDK also have a nonlinear narrative structure of not telling the story in chronological order? Every Nolan film has included that as well.

[turtlefocker]

Hope so

[Figs]

But will TDK also have a nonlinear narrative structure of not telling the story in chronological order? Every Nolan film has included that as well.


That is actually the big question. If not it will be his first right? If it does than we just might get a Joker backstory.

[Mr. Socko]

Yep, if this movie is told in complete chronological order, it will be the first Nolan film to do so.

Very good point, it could be a backstory.

[CaptainClown]

chances are its going to be non linear. He has a habit of doing that, also the things we have seen make sense in a non linear sequence

[turtlefocker]

We should have asked Scissor Puppy if the script was written in a on-linear fashion

[CaptainClown]

eh its not that big of a deal though.

[gwynplaine]

I hope they don't incorporate flashbacks from BB, I hate when the cheap bastards do that. Just reshoot it and show it in a different light or something.

[Noir]

I hope they don't incorporate flashbacks from BB, I hate when the cheap bastards do that. Just reshoot it and show it in a different light or something.
Like in Back to the Future II!

[gwynplaine]

Like in Back to the Future II!
Exactly ! Flashback to the future 2.

[ABleedingCorpse]

So anyone here see the new Heath Ledger spy pic? It's not of him in Joker character, but just of him as himself. I saw it on TMZ and his hair...wooo...bad. He has definatly cut his hair a little bit and it's so much more blonde looking. I'm just saying, either The Joker gets a new hair cut in the movie, or Heath is done with filming.

[regwec]

No, I haven't seen it. Share?

[CaptainClown]

well he could put ona wig.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Just go check it out on TMZ.com. Should be first or second page of their news. They go ahead and make a joke that Heath is doing what Donald Trump does and has a come-over. Which he does, b/c we all should know Heath is loosing his hair.

[gwynplaine]

well he could put ona wig.
I think he wears extensions attached to his real hair, hence the still pronounced receding hairline perfect for the Joker.

[CaptainClown]

ya thats the ticket

[regwec]

Just go check it out on TMZ.com. Should be first or second page of their news. They go ahead and make a joke that Heath is doing what Donald Trump does and has a come-over. Which he does, b/c we all should know Heath is loosing his hair.

It's just Heath looking like an ordinary Joe when taking a break from filming. I don't see what all the fuss is about.

[ABleedingCorpse]

Oh..no fuss from me. Just pointing something out.

[gwynplaine]

The dude is a family man, he saves Maggie from her skirt on fire, he seems like a cool guy, actually from various reports this whole cast seem pretty down to earth.

[CaptainClown]

thankyou!

[Batman*]

and the word is: no.

Shut up he wasn't talking to you.

[Monster]

Easy lads, no need to get nasty.

[Batman*]

I just get sick of people like him acting like jerks just because someone out there happens to like a different version of a character than they do.

[jimmy]

Ladies, we must stop quarreling amongst ourselves. . .

[Monster]

Batman*, everyone has different opinions. It's life mate. Try to just remain civil when others are not.

That way we can all get along :D

[Batman*]

I know. The only reason I got angry was because someone was just saying that the Batman Beyond Joker was their favorite version of the Joker, and as usual, some jerk comes along and responds just to tell them that they are wrong for having that opinion. The guy basically just said "If you think the Batman Beyond joker is the best Joker, you are wrong" not "in my opinion you are wrong" or "in my opinion you are wrong because..." just, "you are wrong".

[turtlefocker]

The guy basically just said "If you think the Batman Beyond joker is the best Joker, you are wrong" not "in my opinion you are wrong" or "in my opinion you are wrong because..." just, "you are wrong".


Oh stop *****ing. It was obviously his opinion. Why should everyone have to be so ****ing politically correct. If it helps just imagine that right before every post it says "in my opinion" they maybe you'll be able to sleep at night.

this is all just my opinion of course

[Batman*]

Kindly shut the hell up you sulky little brat, that of course is my opinion.

[turtlefocker]

I am a homosexual

That is kind of off topic don't yea think?

[Figs]

Lmfao!!

[Batman*]

you both have the intelligence of eight year olds.

Oh and "Turtle****er" thanks for proving my point. You know? the one about you being a sulky little brat.

[itsthebatman]

Woah, woah, woah. Let's all have a
http://www.jakehowlett.com/tuckshop/wrappers/chocolate/filled/timeout-ozzy.jpg

[turtlefocker]

So I hear Heath Ledger is going to be playing the Joker in TDK

[Figs]

you're both eight year olds.


Both!? Just cause I thought it was funny that makes me an eight year old??? Last time I checked I was a lot older than 8. Learn to have a sense of humour, having one doesn't make you immature or stupid. It actually shows that you can enjoy life and aren't uptight.

[turtlefocker]

well maybe you should check again

[CaptainClown]

Put Them Each In A Corner! Noo Juice Boxes!

[turtlefocker]

Jokes on you my dady owns the juice box company

[Figs]

well maybe you should check again


What the **** is that supposed to mean. I wasn't giving you crap turtle.

[CaptainClown]

your daddy doesn't love you and your adopted now no more juice boxes.

[turtlefocker]

I was just kidding around FigmanJ, I don't have a problem with you... or anyone here.

[Figs]

I was just kidding around FigmanJ, I don't have a problem with you... or anyone here.


No prob, kinda in heated mood right now. Another hour and 45 before im off of work. It's been a slow day.

[Crook]

Wow, I can cut the tension in here with a knife.. :dry:

[Figs]

Wow, I can cut the tension in here with a knife.. :dry:


We need one of your Girl tips of the month!

[turtlefocker]

"Turtle****er" thanks for proving my point. You know? the one about you being a sulky little brat.

It just stands to reason when it came time to cash in you're chips some sulky little brat would be your banker.

Tonight while I was working I began to wonder yet again about whether Joker is indeed fully bleached white or if he is wearing make up, and something someone said a time ago came back to me and now, in light of the description we got of the WW footage, something has occurred to me. Nolan likes to ground these a bit, but at the same time fans feel that the bleached skin is both part of the character as well as "within the realm of realism". Then it hit me, the line Gordon said about Joker in the WW footage. "No id, no fingerprints, custom clothes". Is anyone else getting the feeling that the Joker will mose surely be this enigma, this mysterious man who no on understand. Maybe then Nolan will go this route:No one will ever definitively know whether Joker is bleached or make up. Make hints that he is indeed wearing make up only to hint in some way he is bleached fully, and then just keep flipping it on us, keeping us guessing. I think that is something that everyone will mostly feel comfortable with. I know there are probably a few flaws, one being when he gets caught and they try to wipe the make up off. Who knows...just throwing ideas out there....personally I love the idea of us never really knowing. It stays true to the character, as well as adding mystery.

That is an interesting idea. I have also toyed with the idea that the climax of the film will have Joker falling into a vat of chemicals. Then the ending will be similar to BB only instead of Gordon saying "we still haven't picked up crane..." hell say something along the lines of not finding a body. Hinting at the Joker still being out there.

I've consider this option and thought it was VERY much possible... similar to never saying if Ra's was or was not immortal but leaving hints that are interpreted different ways by different people - some thing his lines were mocking, some think they were honest -- regardless I believe the Joker may very well be done this way.

I could go for this idea much more than Joker painting his face. Nolan has many options.

[Batman*]

Why are you quoting an old post a wrote?. Are you trying to start again? Either way, it stands that I was minding my own buisness and you provoked me, so don't get offended when I retaliate.

[turtlefocker]

I was watching Superman and that line came up and I was like "YES"

[turtlefocker]

As you can see though I got back on topic with

"I have also toyed with the idea that the climax of the film will have Joker falling into a vat of chemicals. Then the ending will be similar to BB only instead of Gordon saying "we still haven't picked up crane..." hell say something along the lines of not finding a body. Hinting at the Joker still being out there."

[superkong 500]

As you can see though I got back on topic with

"I have also toyed with the idea that the climax of the film will have Joker falling into a vat of chemicals. Then the ending will be similar to BB only instead of Gordon saying "we still haven't picked up crane..." hell say something along the lines of not finding a body. Hinting at the Joker still being out there."

Then when the screen fades to black it will appear in white text "Joker Begins"

No just kidding I think it would be good if that happened, like totally unexpected but at the same time i don't see it happening.
Too convenient perhaps.

[CaptainClown]

soo is there still an argument? what news is there

[Figs]

soo is there still an argument? what news is there


No more argument, and no news as fars I've seen.:csad:

[CaptainClown]

ahh same crap new day.. Was it this thread I just started talking about Superman Returns?

[Figs]

ahh same crap new day.. Was it this thread I just started talking about Superman Returns?


LOL, I believe so. So how about that suckiness of a film Captain? :oldrazz:

[CaptainClown]

GOOD GOD!

I WANT TO DESTROY THE WORLD TO CREATE REAL ESTATE!!

actually I think X-men were as bad also.

[Figs]

GOOD GOD!

I WANT TO DESTROY THE WORLD TO CREATE REAL ESTATE!!

actually I think X-men were as bad also.


All 3 of them??:csad:

[CaptainClown]

The second one was the best IMO but the whole thing just seemed so miscast. Minus a few of the actors were right but the rest were just , ummm not right. Now that I am thinking about it most Superhero movies I don't care for, mainly because they don't reach their full potential or stray on huge tangents.

[Figs]

The second one was the best IMO but the whole thing just seemed so miscast. Minus a few of the actors were right but the rest were just , ummm not right. Now that I am thinking about it most Superhero movies I don't care for, mainly because they don't reach their full potential or stray on huge tangents.


Yeah, I will have to agree on the miscasts. I don't care what anyone says I didn't hate Halle but she wasn't no damn Storm. Not even a change in dialogue would have helped. She needs to be tall and elegant like.

[CaptainClown]

She was just a pretty face, I think they also gave her a BS role. Same with everyone who wasn't wolverine. On another note was it just me or did rogue just look ummmm lets see... UGH

[Crook]

Haha, yeah a great part of Rogue is she was a bodacious hottie who no one could touch. I didn't really feel too bad for the live-action version. :o

[CaptainClown]

She reminded me too much of Georgia Fox I think thats her name from CSI.. Can't say that helped her though.

[Luchastyle]

so, i want the joker socks. and i found a place that will make them. BUT you have to order 120 pairs. so...that's like a buttload of socks. so i was wondering if people would be interested in throwing down like 20 bucks each. 20 bucks will get u 3 pairs of joker socks. so i would go on one of those websites where it sets up an account that tries to reach a certain point. then after i get all the money, i would order the socks and i would personally ship the pairs people bought to them. i know it's kind of a ridiculous thing. but i personally want the socks. i sent the pics to the website that makes custom sock. and he said he could make em. it would take like 3-4 weeks. it would be awesome. i wanted one pair but his minimum order is 120 pairs. unbelievable. so if there is anybody who would, in theory, be willing to throw down 20 bucks or so to get themselves some joker socks, post I WANT ME SOME JOKER SOCKS because i seriously would be willing to go through all the work of shipping them out to people if it meant me gettin some of those killer socks. (figure 20 bucks would cover the cost of 3 or 4 pairs and then the cost of shipping, i would use the cheapest shipping possible, probably shove em in a big bubblewrap envelope) anyway, respond if you MIGHT be interested (this is all just an idea, i might not do it at all)

[mackblack01]

I found something really interesting, someone did some edits on the teaser trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7SSdvXAXbQ

Personnally, I prefer the Heath Ledger's voice, but this guy made a great job!

[Luchastyle]

I found something really interesting, someone did some edits on the teaser trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7SSdvXAXbQ

Personnally, I prefer the Heath Ledger's voice, but this guy made a great job!

yeah, that's been posted before. pretty decent.

[CaptainClown]

I swear it sounds like Hamil

[The Joker_1000]

I think Heath Ledger will do great as the Joker but I still don't want the Joker to just apply make-up to his face.

[Bishop]

She was just a pretty face, I think they also gave her a BS role. Same with everyone who wasn't wolverine. On another note was it just me or did rogue just look ummmm lets see... UGH


what about the wolverine spin-off film, though? the first film was largely about him, the second film was largely about him, and in the third film his only rival in terms of screen time was Jean Grey. cyclops got about thirty seconds screen time in the third, and was generally portrayed as a dick in the other films to highlight how freewheeling and cool logan is.

i don't think we need more wolverine.

[CaptainClown]

I am saying they gave a BS role to everyone who wasn't wolverine. Implying that basically all X-men was about is Wolverine

[Bishop]

i know, i just wanted to vent about how unfair those films were to the other characters.

[Lunar_Wolf]

I am saying they gave a BS role to everyone who wasn't wolverine. Implying that basically all X-men was about is Wolverine

X-Men movies should have been called Wolverine&Friends.

[Spade]

I liked Singer's vision for the X-Men. It's a shame he didn't get to flesh out the other characters the way he intended, that Ratner took over a mediocre script, and that the pain was worsened when he joined a Superman project with little understanding of what the public wanted to see.