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Hugebear
02-03-2007, 02:35 PM
This thread is for those who like the Chameleon and want him to be in a sequel. So if you can’t say anything nice, please don’t post at all.
The Chameleon was Spider-man’s first super villain.
He is right up there with Sandman, Doctor Octopus, and Green Goblin. He is the villain I’d like most to see in a Spider-man movie. The Chameleon from the Amazing Spider-man #1 and not the cartoon version.
In the comic, he wears masks to disguise himself similar to the Impossible Mission movies.
Mind over Muscle. I feel that he has the potential to be as good as Lex, Magneto, and the Joker. I am aware he has no powers to fight Spider-man, but he has a great story that can be told with just him as the villain.
kooguy911
02-03-2007, 03:38 PM
if you remember there used to be heavy rumors that chameleon was gonna be the villan in 3 before we found out about venom and sandman.
Hugebear
02-03-2007, 08:34 PM
Yes. I remember .
A source very close to production recently dropped us a line with the following information about who is playing who in the new Spider-Man 3 film!
A source close to the production of Spider-Man 3 confirmed for me that the main villain played by Mr. Thomas Hayden Church will in fact be the Chameleon.
Church plays Dmitri Smerdyakov, who goes by false name Dr. Turner at Peter's college. The Chameleon also has a brother in this film, which will set up Kraven the Hunter for a future sequel I'm told. Le'ts just say that the Chameleon will use his powers of performance and identify theft to bridge a gap between MJ and Peter Parker in this film.
The producers and Raimi have a big publicity event right before production starts to make this announcement. Look for it after Thanksgiving, with production to start this winter. This will begin the hype for Spider-Man again. They will also start issuing a new animated DVD featuring the Chameleon right before the new movie hits theatres.
Also, Harry does become the Second Green Goblin, but only at the very end. He's kind of like Anakin in Episode III -- growing evil throughout the film, and not donning the full mantle of recognizable villain until the climax.
It's official: the Chameleon is the character Hayden Church will play, I promise.
This comes from a VERY reliable source, so we’re saying you can take this to the bank!
Source: C2F
Hugebear
02-03-2007, 09:07 PM
Now that I read it again, it doesn't sound too bad. With some changes maybe it could of worked.
Hugebear
02-04-2007, 02:31 PM
[quote]Church plays Dmitri Smerdyakov, who goes by false name Dr. Turner at Peter's college.[quote]
It's kind of good and bad. I like it because maybe they would have done a scene like in Spider-man when Peter meets Harry's father.
Imagine Michael Keaton playing the part of Dr. Turner and the Chameleon.
You see him walking in a great looking buisness suit, coming down the hall way.
Miss Rebecca: Peter meet Dr. Turner. He is the new head of research on the project.
Peter: Hi, nice to meet you sir.
Turner: It's a pleasure Peter.
No one, not even Peter would suspect that Dr. Turner is the Chameleon till the end of the movie. The audience would know of course. But Peter would finally discover who it was at the end.
The bad is what is he doing there in the first place and that Peter and him know each other.
But there is a way. Spider-man keeps getting in the way of the Chameleon getting the secret plans for the serum that Kraven would use to hunt the Lizard in the sequel.
Venom'sDad
02-04-2007, 02:48 PM
I would love to see the Chameleon in a future movie; however, I think his opportunity was in this one. I hope we do get a chance to see him before comic book movies start to play out.
The Villain
02-05-2007, 07:17 AM
Chameleon would be great to see on screen and he is as said before a simple but complex enemy to make use of.
Still would love to see old Mysterio first but can understand if they use Chameleon first.
I do not want Chameleon to be a hired goon but simply a manical mastermind.
Raimi could have gone places with him and I love Sandman and glad he's in SP3 but next up should be another classic like Chameleon, Kraven, Lizard or Mysterio.
:oldrazz:
kooguy911
02-05-2007, 07:35 AM
if theres a chance for SM4 then theres a chance for any villian besides GreenGoblin, Docter Octopus, Sandman, or Venom. That leaves a pretty open playing field especially if thers 2 villians in SP4.
Visionary
02-05-2007, 12:30 PM
No Chameleon!
Thank you.
Eggyman
02-05-2007, 12:46 PM
No Chameleon!
Thank you.
Couldn't agree more.
kooguy911
02-05-2007, 03:25 PM
This thread is for those who like the Chameleon and want him to be in a sequel. So if you can’t say anything nice, please don’t post at all.
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Spiderine
02-05-2007, 04:29 PM
Wouldnt mind seeing him at all, he would add an element to the story in a way that could get many of the actors on board bigger roles when chameleon is impersonating them. Of course I have no problem seeing many of his classic villains adapted to the big sceen.
Hugebear
02-08-2007, 05:50 PM
Should they show the Chameleon's real face in the movie?
SPIDER-MAN 4 CHAMELEON
Spider-Fan83
02-10-2007, 08:58 PM
how about Joseph Gatt for the Chameleon
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3549/indexue7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
did this quick, so, it's kinda crappy
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/6328/thechameleonao5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
SpideyZERO
02-10-2007, 09:24 PM
That's Voldemort :woot:
Hugebear
02-10-2007, 10:20 PM
Not bad.
I got two suggestions for you. Could you add rectangles around the eyes like Doom, from the FF4 and paint his lips white.
He wears a mask to never show his real face.
Venom 1988
02-10-2007, 10:44 PM
Not bad.
I got two suggestions for you. Could you add rectangles around the eyes like Doom, from the FF4 and paint his lips white.
He wears a mask to never show his real face.
You do realize Chameleon only wore that mask like twice when he first met Spidey. He stoped wearing a mask and made his actual face featureless back in his 3rd spidey appearence.
Hugebear
02-11-2007, 12:39 PM
I must acknowledge that I forgot about that. After I had posted, I remembered the cartoon version. I thought that it was possible he was doing that version, but did not want to edit my post.
I suppose, considering the Chameleon remained with the white face, the only way I could explain the white face was that it was a mask.
Spider-Fan83
02-11-2007, 04:29 PM
ya, i was going for the look from the cartoon
http://marvel.toonzone.net/spideytas/bios/villains/chameleon/02.jpg
not of the masked look, though that would be the more realistic, and easier way of doing it in the movie
http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/7/7d/Imm-chameleon.jpg/442px-Imm-chameleon.jpg
Venom 1988
02-11-2007, 07:40 PM
Like I said Chameleon hasnt had the masked for awhile now. He has had the featureless white face for a long time now, even before the 90s cartoon.
Hugebear
02-11-2007, 09:31 PM
Like I said Chameleon hasnt had the masked for awhile now. He has had the featureless white face for a long time now, even before the 90s cartoon.
Yes. Your right. But I like the Chameleon from Amazing Spider-man #1 more than the other two. I think the Chameleon that made his actual face featureless is just too much for the movie. With the mask they don’t need to explain how and why his face became featureless.
rockportspidey
02-11-2007, 09:51 PM
I like the character, and I think he could be pulled off in the movies. I don't think he's "main villain" material though. He'd be great in a small side plot role.
Spider-Fan83
02-12-2007, 11:11 AM
I like the character, and I think he could be pulled off in the movies. I don't think he's "main villain" material though. He'd be great in a small side plot role.
ya, the chameleon is more of a hired gun type villain, not a main villain, he would probably have to be part of a set up to a larger crime organization, like Kingpins, Silvermaines, ... with the chameleon being one of they enforcers, or hitmen
maybe they could just have him working with oscorp, or one of they competitors, and have them trying to design a holograph imager, as some type of high tech cloaking device, that he steals, for whatever reason
i guess it would be possible for him to carry him own movie, they are some decent storylines of just him in them, but it would most likly be a secondary villain
Closerframe
02-12-2007, 01:42 PM
Chameleon doesn't fit into the Spider-Man series maybe as a minor villain at best but nothing major. I mean the action scenes would be so boring.
Hugebear
02-12-2007, 02:27 PM
Thats not true. The Chameleon does fit in the Spider-man series as a major villain. It just takes a great and creative writer to make the Chameleon as good as he can be. Magneto even with out his powers is a very interesting character.
The next movie could be the right place for the Chameleon. All they need to do is end all the major plots in Spider-man 3 and start fresh. The start of the next trilogy.
He could be amazing, just look at the Joker. He has no powers but he is not boring.
There is a way to have action scenes with the Chameleon. Now fighting scenes, I can see where people would get sad, but if they have a great and entertaining story to make up for it, It will be exciting!
Hugebear
02-13-2007, 02:29 PM
There are many ways the Chameleon could be used in the Spider-man movies and there is atleast one great story for him as the main villain.
I had considered him being used for the benefit of the next trilogy, but he could just be in one movie and that would be fine.
lordofthenerds
02-13-2007, 03:05 PM
I want the classic Chameleon if they do end up putting him in a sequel, not a mutation like the Lizard.
Closerframe
02-13-2007, 06:01 PM
Thats not true. The Chameleon does fit in the Spider-man series as a major villain. It just takes a great and creative writer to make the Chameleon as good as he can be. Magneto even with out his powers is a very interesting character.
The next movie could be the right place for the Chameleon. All they need to do is end all the major plots in Spider-man 3 and start fresh. The start of the next trilogy.
He could be amazing, just look at the Joker. He has no powers but he is not boring.
There is a way to have action scenes with the Chameleon. Now fighting scenes, I can see where people would get sad, but if they have a great and entertaining story to make up for it, It will be exciting!
The reason the the Joker is so amazing cause he's one crazy mother ****er and Batman is human and Batman movies are combined with a compelling story and action. Now if they have Chameleon as a major villain with no one else then people will sit there and be bored of Chameleon continuning to change into people like Mystique. Now if you have Chameleon behind the brains of an operation and someone throwing the punches then I could see a good Spider-Man sequel. Maybe Vulture. But there a more villains people want to see before Chameleon.
Hugebear
02-13-2007, 07:42 PM
I think you missed the point. Just because the character is not one crazy mother ****er does not mean he can’t be amazing and interesting. Its a lot more than that. A villain does not have to fight and have powers to be great.
The Chameleon can be a main villain, like the Joker in the movie Batman. He does have a compelling story and will have action.
Each person in the world has a villain they want to see before the others, so that is a not logical for the discussion.
Doomriderr666
02-13-2007, 08:08 PM
I think it would be great to have the Chameleon as a side plot for SM4, retain elements from all his stories while having Kraven introduced for a 5th movie. They could then have The Lizard appear half way through the movie and become the major villain.
SM5- Kraven the Hunter, maybe a continuation of The Lizard. And possibly Scorpion? Who's with me? we need to see them all in action
GoldGoblin
02-13-2007, 08:16 PM
Maybe they could change the Chameleon a little bit.They could make him an alien who has come to earth in search of the symbiote,because the symbiote holds all the secrets to his planet.
And he has hologram technology to look like anyone he wants.And since he would be an alien,he could have his laser pistol,and maybe you can also make his alien species be alot stronger than humans,so he can have some physical action with spidey as well.
Hugebear
02-13-2007, 08:28 PM
The reason the the Joker is so amazing cause he's one crazy mother ****er and Batman is human and Batman movies are combined with a compelling story and action. Now if they have Chameleon as a major villain with no one else then people will sit there and be bored of Chameleon continuning to change into people like Mystique. Now if you have Chameleon behind the brains of an operation and someone throwing the punches then I could see a good Spider-Man sequel. Maybe Vulture. But there a more villains people want to see before Chameleon.
I just realized I was being a little unfair with you. I apologize.
I agree with Chameleon being behind the brains of an operation. :up:
:woot:
SPIDER-MAN 4 CHAMELEON
Closerframe
02-13-2007, 09:44 PM
This is what i would like to see...
Spiderman 4: Lizard (main villain) is being hunted down by Kraven (2nd villain) Chameleon is menched.
Spiderman 5: Kraven's son is murdered by Chameleon like in the comics now its hunter vs. hunter.
Spiderman 6: Now we go back to Eddie in jail and meeting Cletus Kasady who later becomes Carnage.
Spiderman 7: Shocker and Electro and Mysterio
Spiderman 8: Vulture and Hobgoblin
Spiderman 9: Sandman and Hydroman and Blackcat, Venom (Helps Spideman)
Spiderman 10: Blackcat (good guy) Sinister Six
But if they make that many thats how I would like to see it roll out.
Venom'sDad
02-13-2007, 10:40 PM
Maybe they could change the Chameleon a little bit.They could make him an alien who has come to earth in search of the symbiote,because the symbiote holds all the secrets to his planet.
And he has hologram technology to look like anyone he wants.And since he would be an alien,he could have his laser pistol,and maybe you can also make his alien species be alot stronger than humans,so he can have some physical action with spidey as well.
Now you know as well as I do, that the purist on these forums would raise all sort of Cain, if they did that. :o
GoldGoblin
02-13-2007, 11:23 PM
Now you know as well as I do, that the purist on these forums would raise all sort of Cain, if they did that. :o
^Yeah,but they don't get he can't be a major villain the way he is now.
Venom'sDad
02-14-2007, 07:42 AM
Come on GoldG, otherthan Hugebear, no one feels Chameleon could be a Main villian. Now like huge bear originally said, Chameleon could be a major villain playing either a major role as the primary manipulator or a side role that has major repercussion, mist the context of the story. I've seen you adamantly say that Sam should stick to the source material and ridicule him changing the mythos of the comicbook Spidey and his lore of villains.... now you want to drastically change the Chameleon persona. You and the posters on these boards would be burning Sam at the stake and you know it.
lizard855
02-14-2007, 10:38 AM
Chameleon is a good villian but I just can not see any good fight scenes. Sorry
ICXCNIKA
02-14-2007, 11:43 AM
For a good Chameleon manip, someone should use a picture of Voldemort.:up:
Closerframe
02-14-2007, 12:45 PM
http://www.encyclopedie-hp.org/images/films/voldemort_gof.jpg
Closerframe
02-14-2007, 12:46 PM
http://www.encyclopedie-hp.org/images/films/voldemort_gof.jpg
Doomriderr666
02-14-2007, 02:28 PM
The reason the the Joker is so amazing cause he's one crazy mother ****er and Batman is human and Batman movies are combined with a compelling story and action. Now if they have Chameleon as a major villain with no one else then people will sit there and be bored of Chameleon continuning to change into people like Mystique. Now if you have Chameleon behind the brains of an operation and someone throwing the punches then I could see a good Spider-Man sequel. Maybe Vulture. But there a more villains people want to see before Chameleon.
I think that they should have the Chameleon frame Spiderman for some sort of operation, similar to the story from the first issue of Amazing Spiderman, except on a much larger scale. They could have Spiderman be the true public menace and have him be hunted by helicopters and such. I'd LOVE to see the Chameleon be at least the brains behind something like this, a criminal mastermind of sorts. I agree the Vulture would work great on film to play the villain Spidey has to physically battle... somebody on this board mentioned the possibility of Ben Kingsley playing the part and I think thats perfect, although I doubt he would be down for it.
http://www.poster.net/kingsley-ben/kingsley-ben-photo-ben-kingsley-6203579.jpg
The perfect Vulture? ^
Closerframe
02-14-2007, 06:37 PM
I want to see Hydro-Man he would look cool. They should have him and Electro in a movie together that would be sick.
Hugebear
02-14-2007, 08:41 PM
I think that they should have the Chameleon frame Spiderman for some sort of operation, similar to the story from the first issue of Amazing Spiderman, except on a much larger scale. They could have Spiderman be the true public menace and have him be hunted by helicopters and such. I'd LOVE to see the Chameleon be at least the brains behind something like this, a criminal mastermind of sorts. I agree the Vulture would work great on film to play the villain Spidey has to physically battle... somebody on this board mentioned the possibility of Ben Kingsley playing the part and I think thats perfect, although I doubt he would be down for it.
The perfect Vulture? ^
:yay:
Hugebear
02-16-2007, 08:10 PM
http://video.barnesandnoble.com/search/imageviewer.asp?ean=012569702998&z=y
The Chameleon's mask might look something like this, The Phantom of the Opera.
Rated-X
02-17-2007, 02:21 PM
ha ha, I doubt it. It will look like this. >>> :dry:
Mr Jide
02-17-2007, 03:46 PM
I want to see Hydro-Man he would look cool. They should have him and Electro in a movie together that would be sick.
So sick, I'll throw up at the ridiculousness of it. No way. No hydromelp at least not in a movie by himself and as awesome as Electro is, not even Maxy can hydroman's wattery ass.
Spiderine
02-22-2007, 08:03 PM
Chameleon can be in a movie with out being the main villain. He would never be the main villain, but could be a big part of the plot. I have no problem seeing him.
Mr. Socko
02-22-2007, 08:41 PM
I love Chameleon. I think he could serve in the same type of role as Sandman(one of a couple main villains). However, I believe they'd change him around. If Raimi was doing it, he'd probably use the masks as he usually goes with the old school ASM stuff. And I think that'd be cool, and it'd be a little more realistic(not that unrealistic is too weird in a movie about a human spider)
Hugebear
03-08-2007, 02:10 PM
I hope they remain faithful to his first appearance in ASM #1. I know they might change a few things like the disguise vest, but they should still stay very faithful to the character.
The white mask is the best way to go for the Chameleon. The movie V for Vendetta showed that it can be done.
I watched Heroes on Monday and in the episode, they had a woman shapeshifter or illusionist. She reminded me of the Chameleon, but she is more like Mystique or Mysterio.
I like the way they introduced her and her powers. She used her powers to impersonate someone else and made you think it was really them. It was great. She is almost like the Chameleon, only he does not have powers. That’s part of the reason the Chameleon is cool. He has no powers, yet he can impersonate male individuals using masks.
Venom'sDad
03-08-2007, 03:11 PM
If the Chameleon had a chance to grace the silver screen, it would have been in SM3. I don't think we are ever going to see him now. :(
GoldGoblin
03-08-2007, 05:36 PM
I hope they remain faithful to his first appearance in ASM #1. I know they might change a few things like the disguise vest, but they should still stay very faithful to the character.
The white mask is the best way to go for the Chameleon. The movie V for Vendetta showed that it can be done.
I watched Heroes on Monday and in the episode, they had a woman shapeshifter or illusionist. She reminded me of the Chameleon, but she is more like Mystique or Mysterio.
I like the way they introduced her and her powers. She used her powers to impersonate someone else and made you think it was really them. It was great. She is almost like the Chameleon, only he does not have powers. That’s part of the reason the Chameleon is cool. He has no powers, yet he can impersonate male individuals using masks.
^
That was more like what Mysterio could do.
Spiderine
03-15-2007, 08:45 PM
What connection would the chameleon have to Peter?
Hugebear
03-16-2007, 05:11 PM
What connection would the chameleon have to Peter?
He has no connection to Peter and he should not have one in the movies. The Chameleon’s only connection should be with Spider-man. It's better if they save having any connection to Peter for the Lizard or some other villain.
GoldGoblin
03-16-2007, 06:55 PM
What connection would the chameleon have to Peter?
^
What if a main character was always the Chameleon in disguise,and that form that it took had a realtionship to Peter.
Hugebear
03-17-2007, 04:50 PM
Actually, that sounds good and it might work.
But I guess the question is,
Should the Chameleon have a connection to Peter?
But I see spiderine's point now.
Venom'sDad
03-17-2007, 06:08 PM
The connection would be to his parents.
Spiderine
03-17-2007, 09:12 PM
The connection would be to his parents.
Yes, I think I see where you are going with this, not bad.
GoldGoblin
03-18-2007, 06:36 PM
But would we really need the Chameleon since Mysterio could do what he can,and even more like that girl on "Heroes".
Spiderine
03-20-2007, 09:58 AM
I can't really see Mysterio with that fishbowl costume on the big screen.
Venom'sDad
03-20-2007, 10:19 PM
Chameleon opportunity to grace the big screen has come and gone with SM3. So the dynamic of the Chameleon is not needed. I would prefer Mysterio from this point on, as one of the possible villains to come. :dry:
venom628
03-21-2007, 11:38 AM
how about Joseph Gatt for the Chameleon
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3549/indexue7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
did this quick, so, it's kinda crappy
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/6328/thechameleonao5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Good idea.
Hugebear
03-21-2007, 12:01 PM
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5929/spidermanhf1.png
The New Official Spider-man 3 Fan Art and Manips Thread
Chameleon, based on the actor Joseph Gatt, by Devon_Farmer.
Yes we do need the Chameleon!
The Chameleon and Mysterio are still different enough to have diversified stories.
Mysterio is a movie special effects expert and master of illusion and the Chameleon is a spy and a master of disguise.
Spiderine
03-21-2007, 04:02 PM
Who is the guy in the upper right hand corner, he looks like Micheal Jackson?
Venom 1988
03-21-2007, 04:26 PM
Who is the guy in the upper right hand corner, he looks like Micheal Jackson? Morbius
GoldGoblin
03-21-2007, 05:11 PM
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5929/spidermanhf1.png
The New Official Spider-man 3 Fan Art and Manips Thread
Chameleon, based on the actor Joseph Gatt, by Devon_Farmer.
Yes we do need the Chameleon!
The Chameleon and Mysterio are still different enough to have diversified stories.
Mysterio is a movie special effects expert and master of illusion and the Chameleon is a spy and a master of disguise.
^
But they can both change their appearances by shapeshifting.
Hugebear
03-21-2007, 07:18 PM
^
But they can both change their appearances by shapeshifting.
Your right, Mysterio could do what he can, and even more. Mysterio uses special effects equipment to fight and hurt Spider-man and can create illusions to trick Spider-man. He can even fool Spider-man with an illusion of his parents and mess with his mind. He can shapeshift his appearance to look like a giant creature.
But the Chameleon, I’m talking about is not a shapeshifer. He uses masks to disguise himself as other men. He can’t disguise or shapeshift into women like Mysterio. What makes the Chameleon very interesting though is that he has no powers and that he is a spy like the Bond villains. Some people might say go watch Casino Royale, but its not the same. He wears business suits like in the manip picture and should be like Bond or Le Chiffre in Casino Royale, only he is a master of disguise. No special cars or gadgets.
Willem Daffoe was a perfect age and body type for the Chameleon. Daffoe even wore the business suits and robe.
So while Mysterio can shapeshift, he can do more. He would shapeshift into a person, then something else. So he would be using his other abilities in the movies, not just shapeshifting.
The Chameleon main ability is wearing masks to disguise himself and to remain hidden. But that is what makes him great, he has only one power, sort to speak.
Finally, here is an example. Lex with powers and Lex with no powers.
Mysterio is like Lex with a battle suit. He can harm Spider-man. He seeks to kill Spider-man to prove he can.
Chameleon is like Lex without powers. He can’t harm Spider-man in combat, so he must use his brain. Mind over Muscle.
Spiderine
03-21-2007, 10:57 PM
Morbius
Morbius....of course, I don't know but for some reason I didn't recognize him.
Abaddon
03-21-2007, 11:04 PM
Your right, Mysterio could do what he can, and even more. Mysterio uses special effects equipment to fight and hurt Spider-man and can create illusions to trick Spider-man. He can even fool Spider-man with an illusion of his parents and mess with his mind. He can shapeshift his appearance to look like a giant creature.
But the Chameleon, I’m talking about is not a shapeshifer. He uses masks to disguise himself as other men. He can’t disguise or shapeshift into women like Mysterio. What makes the Chameleon very interesting though is that he has no powers and that he is a spy like the Bond villains. Some people might say go watch Casino Royale, but its not the same. He wears business suits like in the manip picture and should be like Bond or Le Chiffre in Casino Royale, only he is a master of disguise. No special cars or gadgets.
Willem Daffoe was a perfect age and body type for the Chameleon. Daffoe even wore the business suits and robe.
So while Mysterio can shapeshift, he can do more. He would shapeshift into a person, then something else. So he would be using his other abilities in the movies, not just shapeshifting.
The Chameleon main ability is wearing masks to disguise himself and to remain hidden. But that is what makes him great, he has only one power, sort to speak.
Finally, here is an example. Lex with powers and Lex with no powers.
Mysterio is like Lex with a battle suit. He can harm Spider-man. He seeks to kill Spider-man to prove he can.
Chameleon is like Lex without powers. He can’t harm Spider-man in combat, so he must use his brain. Mind over Muscle.
Mysterio cannot shapeshift:huh:
GoldGoblin
03-21-2007, 11:46 PM
Mysterio cannot shapeshift:huh:
^
Did you see that girl on "Heroes",her powers are illusions,and she did.
Abaddon
03-21-2007, 11:51 PM
Casting illusions and shapeshifting are two different things.
GoldGoblin
03-22-2007, 02:22 AM
Casting illusions and shapeshifting are two different things.
^
But with illusions he can disguise himself as anyone just like a shapeshifter.
Spiderine
03-23-2007, 01:50 AM
I think Chameleon would be better as a villain causing trouble behind the scenes while Peter battles more formidable villains. Alienating him from family,on the job, and of course whatever goings on with MJ/Gwen. He would be easier to do than Mysterio altering entire settings with illusions and what not. But at this point if they go wit Kraven and Lizard, I don't really see how they could fit him into Spiderman4.
Venom 1988
03-23-2007, 10:23 AM
Well he is Kraven's brother,just have him working behind the scenes as Spidey is dealing with Lizard and Kraven or something
Spiderine
03-23-2007, 01:29 PM
Well he is Kraven's brother,just have him working behind the scenes as Spidey is dealing with Lizard and Kraven or something
Yeah... You're right. I forgot about that relationship. I guess that could add a twist to it.
Hugebear
06-02-2007, 07:00 PM
The Chameleon is a cool and awesome villain. He is great as Spider-man's very first villain and he should be the main villain in Spider-man 4, because he can't be the final villain in the next trilogy. He needs to come out before the more menacing villains show up.
Spider-Fan
06-02-2007, 07:04 PM
I have to side with Mysterio over Chameleon. More interesting character and could do a lot more than the Chameleon.
batboy99
06-02-2007, 08:14 PM
^
But with illusions he can disguise himself as anyone just like a shapeshifter.
exactly
illusions just makes the other person se you differantly when you havent actually changed, shapeshifting, you actually change form
Spiderine
06-02-2007, 09:28 PM
You all decided to continue this discussion in the Chameleon thread huh. Well I still say Chameleon.
Venom'sDad
06-03-2007, 01:48 PM
When I look at possible fight scenes.... mono to mono.... I don't know if Mysterio wouldn't look cheezy fighting with a big fish bowl on his head cracked by one of Spidey massive punches..... but DocOck seem to have handle it though.
If you make Chameleon into a trained double agent, licensed to kill, weapon specialist, and train in the asian arts, along with his already formidable abilities..... he would be a kickass villain.
Spiderine
06-03-2007, 01:56 PM
When I look at possible fight scenes.... mono to mono.... I don't know if Mysterio wouldn't look cheezy fighting with a big fish bowl on his head cracked by one of Spidey massive punches..... but DocOck seem to have handle it though.
If you make Chameleon into a trained double agent, licensed to kill, weapon specialist, and train in the asian arts, along with his already formidable abilities..... he would be a kickass villain.
What if he got the formula or something to enhance his strength?
Venom'sDad
06-03-2007, 02:02 PM
Formula from where... Oscorps?
Spiderine
06-03-2007, 02:26 PM
Formula from where... Oscorps?
Chameleon would be the spy,agent,hitman etc. Why does he show up in New York? What is he after? Who does he work for? All this can tie together with elements we have already seen.
Venom'sDad
06-03-2007, 02:36 PM
OK... I see where you going with this. Good points on him going after the formula if I'm reading you right. However, who would want it that bad to hire Chameleon..... that's why I say you have to have Kingsley in the next trilogy to hire villains to go after Spiderman, take over Oscorp and use it resources to create and explain these villains origins, and be the chief villain behind the scenes throughtout the next trilogy..... or at least through Spidey5 since many here wants the Sinister Six in Spidey6 for some reason.
Hugebear
06-04-2007, 02:07 PM
INT.GOVERNMENT BUILDING.NIGHT
SPIDER-MAN
You sure it's him?
FBI AGENT
It's classified information Spider-man.
SPIDER-MAN
Look, You will have to trust me. Your the only one that believes me.
FBI AGENT
The Chameleon is a spy and master of disguise. He is the best operative we have ever seen. He can strike anywhere in the world! No one knows who is the Chameleon! No one can stop him!
SPIDER-MAN
I Can.
Hugebear
06-05-2007, 11:54 AM
All very good questions and very good answers. You guys are getting too dangerously close to how I see the Chameleon being used in the movies.
I can tell you he is a spy at the caliber of the bad guys in the movie Casino Royale and yes he is after something important in my idea for the Spider-man 4. Oh and he works alone considering his best ability.
KangConquers
06-07-2007, 10:03 PM
Chameleon could be the plot part of a movie, but not the fighting part. I think he'd go well with either his brother, or with Rhino.
KangConquers
06-07-2007, 10:05 PM
I have to side with Mysterio over Chameleon. More interesting character and could do a lot more than the Chameleon.
I disagree on all levels. I think Mysterio is a complete cheeseball.
Chameleon always struck me as a Batman type villain; he doesn't really have any fighting skills, but he can cause problems in other ways. Strap him with some hired muscle and you've got a great movie imo.
Hugebear
06-13-2007, 02:07 PM
If you make Chameleon into a trained double agent, licensed to kill, weapon specialist, and train in the asian arts, along with his already formidable abilities..... he would be a kickass villain.
Exactly, he is a cool, serious, intelligent and cunning villain that even with no powers can be very dangerous to any typical man.
Spider-ManHero12
06-17-2007, 02:23 PM
The Chameleon would only be in a Spidey Movie if they made him have alot of strength. If not then He won't work. But Mysertio on the other hand I guess would work. I mean atleast he can trick Spidey and make illsusions, etc. Remember in ASM Issue#13 how Mysterio tricked Spidey with smoke ontop of a bridge?
Venom 1988
06-17-2007, 03:01 PM
The Chameleon would only be in a Spidey Movie if they made him have alot of strength. If not then He won't work.
Not all of the villains have to have brute strength to work on film.
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