HYPE SURVIVOR 19: Creepy on a Whole New Level - DAY 11: Day 11

[Matt]

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r62/stref2001/Survivor1.jpg

Well, after that last day was certainly a fiasco, wasn't it? And now Brodie is gone and I feel like a part of us is gone too. And that part is gonorhea. Norman too has bit the big one. He has been dragged to the depths of hell by Teddy to be his sex slave. Luckily, we'll pull him out just in time to vote, but not before he gets some lovin' from DA BEAR. Die Teddy :yay:


The Rules (For You Lucky Non-Survivor Fans):
20 people will start this game. 18 will actually play this game.

Each 'day' is marked by a new challenge. Each tribe will receive team challenges (instructions for challenges will be explained for each challenge). Right answers during challenges will obviously earn points and wrong answers will be worth none. The tribe with the most points at the end of the 'day' (or round) wins immunity. The tribe with the least points must vote off one of their members via PM in a tribal council. Also, in this game... immunity may be decided by something other than trivia. You will be completely briefed on this before it happens, so do not fret. In the event of any ties, there will be a tie breaker question in which a tie will not be possible.

If your tribe happens to win three days in a row, then they'll be given a gift in addition to their immunity: they'll go to tribal council on behalf of the other tribe and they'll vote off ANYONE IN THE GAME THAT THEY CHOOSE.

At some point the tribes will be merged into one tribe. The game will only have one merge at a time already designated. Only the hosts will know about this day until the time it actually happens. There may be additional twists and turns throughout the game, so do not get too cozy.

Hype! Survivor is a game of both strategy and deception. Alliances are both permitted, and encouraged. So find a friend, and sex their brains out. Masterminding and forethought are the keys to success. Laziness and ineffective play will both be penalized and exposed. Hosts have the right to intervene at any point in the game for the sake of keeping dead weight out. As a side note: alliances can be with any of the 20 players... doesn't matter who they are... doesn't matter what tribes they're on... just make sure it's someone you trust... or not. As the old saying goes: keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.

The final Jury will be composed of 7 people: everyone voted off from the remaining seven players who didn't make the finals. The hosts will not be voting in the finals this time around. The Jury and only the Jury will vote FOR WHO THEY THINK SHOULD WIN of the final two remaining players to find the winner of the Hype! Survivor.

A note on cheating: It's very easy to cheat in this game. Very, very easy. Some of the rounds will be much more difficult to cheat at than others (some will be downright impossible to cheat on). Regardless, hosts have ways of catching you, and sometimes will even set up traps for you. If you feel you have to cheat, by all means, go ahead... but if you're caught, you WILL be penalized. Again, specific rules of what's legal or not will be in each challenge PM.

This game will not support dead weight. The last game I attempted to host ended prematurely as I recruited entirely new players, all of whom lost interest about half way through the game. If the host feels at any time that you are dead weight he reserves the right to boot you and replace you. Also, if your tribe feels that you are dead weight, they may petition me for your removal from the game and replacement with someone else at which point your case will be heard and it will be decided.
New to this game is Exile Island. The losing tribe has a player removed from their tribe from tribal council. The winning tribe picks who goes. This person is safe from tribal council but also forfeits his or her vote.
These rules are subject to change at any time with absolutely no warning. They are more of guidelines for the game. Specific rules for each challenge will be issued via Challenge PM. Any dispute with the host will be settled through the Ghost Host (aka: The King). He is a neutral party who will look at the dispute and decide who is in the wrong (it will probably be you, though). Just have fun and play your hardest and everything will be fine
(Note: I plagarized these from Kipobe and Toven)


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As you know, we skipped day 11. However, it is back...and it will be the key to this challenge.

THERE WILL BE NO PMs FOR TODAY'S CHALLENGE! IT IS SIMPLY A RACE! YOU ARE LOOKING FOR ONLY ONE ITEM! THIS:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r62/stref2001/11.jpg

IT IS HIDDEN SOMEWHERE ON THE HYPE! THE NUMBER 11 WILL GUIDE YOU TO THIS ITEM! FIND 11, YOU FIND THE IMMUNITY IDOL! GOOD LUCK!

[Darthphere]

Found it.

[Mee]

Where? Tell me tell me. :heart:

[Matt]

Oh, when you find it, PM to me where you found it.

[Matt]

THE CHALLENGE HAS ENDED! TRIBAL COUNCIL PMs WILL BE SENT SHORTLY

[Darthphere]

Oh snap!

[Erzengel]

Wow it took less than 41 minutes. :o

[hippie_hunter]

What the hell? :huh:

[Matt]

In all honesty, I believe the person sent me it as a joke. While I wait for him to send me an Exile for Exile Island I will explain:

If you checked the properties of the immunity idol in the original post, you would find the number 11 as the file name. That is the immunity idol. If you followed the clues (which started with the 11th post in the Ozfest thread) you would've gone through various posts, some hidden, some in the open. The eventually would've take you to a link to this picture:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r62/stref2001/Itsintheoriginalthread.jpg

There were various ways to get there throughout the Hype, in case someone was still confused all they would need to do is check the properties of that picture to see the file name is "Itsintheoriginalthread".

[hippie_hunter]

Okay, seriously what the hell is going on here!

[Erzengel]

The Challenge was to find that Immunity Idol.

Based on clues in the first post and various other posts.

Someone found it already.

[Matt]

Read the above. You know, this is how Hype Survivor used to be during the Reader days. Just quick little challenges that you could blink and miss.

[hippie_hunter]

Who found the idol?

[Matt]

ALL PMs are sent. Immortalfire won Immunity, Jewish Hobbit has been sent to Exile Island. He will be the final Exile.

[Matt]

You have 24 hours to vote

[Immortalfire]

Immortalfire won Immunity Woof Woof Woof!!!

[Kipobe]

:huh:

[Fran]

Wait... what? :huh:

[Darthphere]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/darthphere/hughescopy.png

[Fran]

Damn me for going to class and watching Smokin' Aces afterwards! :cmad:

[StorminNorman]

With my position as Survivor Jury Member - I am so voting ETM FTW.

[StorminNorman]

Can I get my jury pic on the grid replaced to this?

http://www.artestuff.com/images/u-rail-screw-white.jpg

[hippie_hunter]

Can I get my jury pic on the grid replaced to this?

http://www.artestuff.com/images/u-rail-screw-white.jpg

LMAO :woot:

[AndThePickles]

Wow, that was a fast challenge.

[Fran]

Can I get my jury pic on the grid replaced to this?

http://www.artestuff.com/images/u-rail-screw-white.jpg

:up:

[Fran]

Watch out for "Hype Survivor 22: Goddamn Teddy", hosted by me and StorminNorman.

The contestants will include Asteroid-Man, blind_fury, Ghostrider87, among others.

[hippie_hunter]

Watch out for "Hype Survivor 22: Goddamn Teddy", hosted by me and StorminNorman.

The contestants will include Asteroid-Man, blind_fury, Ghostrider87, among others.

I want in on that game :up:

[Fran]

Oh, and GAH will be there too.

[JewishHobbit]

Okay, I go to work and come home with the challenge over. That's like, the third time this season. It's kinda annoying!

[hippie_hunter]

I was in class when the challenge happened :(

[JewishHobbit]

Out of curiosity, how many people were actually on to even play that challenge?

[StorminNorman]

I wasn't :o

[Asteroid-Man]

That was fast...

[Fran]

Hey A-M, I was joking about the above... blame it on Norman :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Wow, this was an interesting challenge though. :up:

[enterthemadness]

:dry: why is this thread active? Day 14 begins like tomorrow or soon...what the hell? Seriosuly? :dry:

[Colossal Spoons]

:dry::dry::dry::dry::dry::dry:

[Colossal Spoons]

As you know, we skipped day 11. However, it is back...and it will be the key to this challenge.

Check the post date/time of this as well.

[Fran]

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/farmerfran-2/peek-a-boodry.gif

[hippie_hunter]

Out of curiosity, how many people were actually on to even play that challenge?

I think only one took part.

[JewishHobbit]

Matt says four were online, though three of us already stated that we weren't. The challenge was decent, but it should have taken place earlier in the game, or at least later at night when more people are prone to be online. I don't mind the outcome and all that, I just hate that I've now missed my 3rd challenge.

[Matt]

Back when Reader hosted these games, he had challenges where he would send out a question like 1+1 at some random point in the day. First person to answer would win (and that probably will be the final 4 challenge). The unexpected is an aspect of this game. Some challenges will be basic trivia, others, not. Its not intentional if you weren't online, and I apologize for it. It is just the nature of the game and the need to keep it moving.

[JewishHobbit]

I'm not blaming you. You did nothing wrong.

[Erzengel]

How many more votes needed?

[StorminNorman]

Who is hosting the next Survivor?

[Erzengel]

Venom Drool

I'm slated for the next one after that.

I was hoping to do Survivor: Amazon with just the ladies, but I don't think I could find 16 active female posters. :csad:

[StorminNorman]

Venom Drool

I'm slated for the next one after that.

I was hoping to do Survivor: Amazon with just the ladies, but I don't think I could find 16 active female posters. :csad:

I have the name Natalie Portman - does that mean I could play? :(

[Erzengel]

That could be for ETM's or Teddy's next Survivor. Survivor: Trannie Island

[StorminNorman]

That could be for ETM's or Teddy's next Survivor. Survivor: Trannie Island

Hmmm, Teddy hosting an entire Survivor Game...

I now understand what Kurtz was talking about :(

http://marcioguilherme.apostos.com/archives/kurtz.jpg

[hippie_hunter]

That could be for ETM's or Teddy's next Survivor. Survivor: Trannie Island

Staring Hippie Huntress!

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p186/hippie_hunter/FemaleMe.jpg

And if you ask me, she is much smexier, than Aunt Petunia

[hippie_hunter]

Venom Drool

I'm slated for the next one after that.

I was hoping to do Survivor: Amazon with just the ladies, but I don't think I could find 16 active female posters. :csad:

You gotta have at least one transgendered version of a male Hyper. Like Franklin Richard's Aunt Petunia account.

[Kipobe]

This is a valid part of Survivor even though I don't actually like it... but it's legit nonetheless... sometimes you miss a challenge. People who have stuff to do are NOT survivors. :csad:

The game isn't ALL immunity.

PS - how many votes in, Matthewson?

[JewishHobbit]

This is a valid part of Survivor even though I don't actually like it... but it's legit nonetheless... sometimes you miss a challenge. People who have stuff to do are NOT survivors. :csad:

The game isn't ALL immunity.

PS - how many votes in, Matthewson?


Oh I know that. I don't care that I didn't win Immunity, I just hate not getting the chance. But I'm done now.

[Darren Daring]

A Running theme In matt's game is Inequality. When you have a challenge that is completed in 41 minutes, it isn't fair.

[Matt]

This is a valid part of Survivor even though I don't actually like it... but it's legit nonetheless... sometimes you miss a challenge. People who have stuff to do are NOT survivors. :csad:

The game isn't ALL immunity.

PS - how many votes in, Matthewson?

4, I get the feeling my number 5 is going to not vote :cmad:

[enterthemadness]

Matt..how the hell do you skip a day? Can you not count past 10 or something? I kid you not. :o

[TEDDY]

Watch out for "Hype Survivor 22: Goddamn Teddy", hosted by me and StorminNorman.

:up:

[AndThePickles]

Matt..how the hell do you skip a day? Can you not count past 10 or something? I kid you not. :o




As you know, we skipped day 11. However, it is back...and it will be the key to this challenge.




THE NUMBER 11 WILL GUIDE YOU TO THIS ITEM! FIND 11, YOU FIND THE IMMUNITY IDOL! GOOD LUCK!

Seems to me that he skipped Day 11 on purpose didn't he? :confused:

[Erzengel]

Matt..how the hell do you skip a day? Can you not count past 10 or something? I kid you not. :o
Seems to me that ETM "skipped" Matt's posts.

http://www.lardlad.com/framegrabs/GABF08/16.jpg

Hoot hoot hoot hoot hoot hoot

[Matt]

OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT:

I have recieved a complaint from another player regarding Jewhob's posting while on Exile Island. He will recieve five votes against him during tribal council, however these are only ceremonial votes. He is safe from being voted out of the game, therefore these votes will only go against him in the case of a tie with another player in a later round

[Darthphere]

OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT:

I have recieved a complaint from another player regarding Jewhob's posting while on Exile Island. He will recieve five votes against him during tribal council, however these are only ceremonial votes. He is safe from being voted out of the game, therefore these votes will only go against him in the case of a tie with another player in a later round

Oh snap!

[Immortalfire]

I got bit by a hermit crab :csad:

[Matt]

All votes are in.

[Matt]

Wait...time out,brain fart earlier. Jewhob was on Exile Island and posted five times. He didn't have immunity, he was simply in Exile. He may be eligible for vote out because while he could not have votes posted against him by other players he was not immune either. I'm going to have to consult the rules and think on this for awhile. Opinions are welcome.

[Fran]

Oh Matt, you and your drugs. :yay:

[Erzengel]

Matt.

Everytime someone has been exiled, they have NEVER been eligible to be voted out.

[Mee]

Don't question the host. What kind of Hype Survivor is this? :huh::cmad:

[Matt]

Matt.

Everytime someone has been exiled, they have NEVER been eligible to be voted out.

They were not immune, they simply were not considered to be at tribal council therefore votes could not be cast against them. I've never had a case where majority vote could be caused by penalty votes. Jewhob did not have immunity, he was simply in Exile. That is why I am considering this, as I have considered every complaint filed by a player to me this game.

[Darthphere]

Don't question the host. What kind of Hype Survivor is this? :huh::cmad:



A poorly executed one.

[Erzengel]

They were not immune, they simply were not considered to be at tribal council therefore votes could not be cast against them. I've never had a case where majority vote could be caused by penalty votes. Jewhob did not have immunity, he was simply in Exile. That is why I am considering this, as I have considered every complaint filed by a player to me this game.

I and many of the players here were under the assumption that someone exiled meant you couldn't vote for them. Almost every player here had the same thought process too.

If we have known that earlier in the game, there might be different people posting here.

Don't you wonder why the people exiled were never voted off?

[TEDDY]

^ Teddy!!!

[Matt]

I and many of the players here were under the assumption that someone exiled meant you couldn't vote for them. Almost every player here had the same thought process too.

If we have known that earlier in the game, there might be different people posting here.

And Jewhob could not be voted for. He however broke a rule that he was very aware of as he violated it earlier int he game and recieved penalty votes for it. This time however, he has recieved the majority vote through penalty votes. I am considering whether or not that makes him the person being voted out. He wasn't immune. He was simply in exile.

Note: I am only playing Devil's advocate here. I've yet to form an opinion on this...unique situation. I ask all the players to comment on this.

[Erzengel]

Eh....since he's inelligble to be voted off, I think the rule should stay and those "5 votes" be used as carry on votes in case of a tie.

[Fran]

Playball! :cmad:

[Matt]

Eh....since he's inelligble to be voted off, I think the rule should stay and those "5 votes" be used as carry on votes in case of a tie.

I think the question here comes down to is he ineligible to be voted OUT or ineligible to be vote FOR? If it is the latter, then his penalty votes can remove him from the game. I am going to dwell on this for awhile. Especially since the next day cannot start until I recieve more PMs from the former players. I will make a decision once I have more opinions from the players and Jewhob himself. I'd also like the person who filed the complaint's opinion on this more indepth. If he or she would like to PM me to keep themself anonymous that is fine.

[Darren Daring]

Seems to me that he skipped Day 11 on purpose didn't he? :confused:


Not really. It's far more likely that he skipped day 11, realized it later, and made a token gesture to apply it to the immunity. Any number could have easily been applied in place of 11.

[Darren Daring]

I think the question here comes down to is he ineligible to be voted OUT or ineligible to be vote FOR? If it is the latter, then his penalty votes can remove him from the game. I am going to dwell on this for awhile. Especially since the next day cannot start until I recieve more PMs from the former players. I will make a decision once I have more opinions from the players and Jewhob himself. I'd also like the person who filed the complaint's opinion on this more indepth. If he or she would like to PM me to keep themself anonymous that is fine.


Matt, I take back that thing I said in the PM:down

[hippie_hunter]

^ Teddy!!!
http://retardalert.ytmnd.com/

[Matt]

Matt, I take back that thing I said in the PM:down

Nothing is final, I am just musing it around and trying to come to a decision based on the rules of the game.

[Matt]

I'm waiting for Jewhob to get his say in before I make any decision.

[enterthemadness]

Matt..why do I have a feeling your performance as host is about as great as the acting of the I Kid You Not guy? :huh:

[Darthphere]

Matt..why do I have a feeling your performance as host is about as great as the acting of the I Kid You Not guy? :huh:

You mean fantastic?!

[enterthemadness]

You mean fantastic?!

No, I mean worse than Cap Kirk's acting.

[Matt]

A decision will be made no later than Ten P.M. est time tonight. I want Jewhob to be able to defend himself.

[Matt]

Matt..why do I have a feeling your performance as host is about as great as the acting of the I Kid You Not guy? :huh:

I don't really see what is so wrong about this. One player filed a complaint. He filed his complaint based on a rule that is somewhat of a gray area but has been enforced in the past. Because of that, I now have to interpret the gray area of the rule. I would simply like to hear both sides of the argument before I do so. At least I am not acting like certain past hosts and just abusing my power saying "my way or the high way". I would like to hear what the players think of it.

[hippie_hunter]

It seems fair to me.

[enterthemadness]

I don't really see what is so wrong about this. One player filed a complaint. He filed his complaint based on a rule that is somewhat of a gray area but has been enforced in the past. Because of that, I now have to interpret the gray area of the rule. I would simply like to hear both sides of the argument before I do so. At least I am not acting like certain past hosts and just abusing my power saying "my way or the high way". I would like to hear what the players think of it.

I just like bursting your...well, I like messing with you and your fav actor.

[Fran]

I thought when you were put on the stage, that your exile votes automatically counted against you :huh:

[Matt]

I'm waiting for Jewhob to post, but I think my mind is made up. I've gotten a lot of opinions and even if I don't respond I am taking them all into account. Thanks guys, keep 'em coming.

[JewishHobbit]

I'm assuming that your "I'm waiting on Jewhob to post" is saying that I can post in my defense. The thing is, I never received a PM telling me I'm in Exile and that I couldn't speak in the thread. I know I could'nt before, but without the PM to remind me, it completely slipped my mind. Correct me if I'm wrong, but even without an idol to find, shouldn't I still get a PM reminding me of the rules. I've been on Exile once before, but that was a while ago and a lot happens in that kind of time (in and out of the game).

So yeah, my defense is that I wasn't told I couldn't speak, and if I'm not mistaken, nowhere on the official thread does it say I can't speak while in Exile, it was only on the PM's... which I didn't get.

PS... I just checked, and exile island or its rules are even mentioned in the official rules. They're only stated in PM's, and being that I didn't receive the rules through a PM this week, I should not have to be punished for breaking them.

[Matt]

OFFICiAL ANNOUNCEMENT:

I'VE MADE MY DECISION AND THE GHOST HOST HAS APPROVED. I HAVE MADE IT BASED ON WHAT IS FAIR AND BASED ON WHAT THE PLAYERS WHO TALKED TO ME (and quite a few did) THOUGHT.

Kipobe was recently at Exile Island. He stuck to the rules. I have not reminded him of the rules since his first visit as the first exile. The rules however were in effect and the Exile was expected to abide them.

Jewhob, I'm sorry about this and isn't how I wanted to see you go...however, it is the rules. By a vote of 5 to you, 3 to Erzengel, and 2 to Hippie_Hunter...Jewhob, you will be the third member of our jury.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r62/stref2001/Survivor2.jpg

[Erzengel]

3 votes for me. :csad:

[hippie_hunter]

Hippie_Hunter: War Journal, Day 18 (Day 11)

Matt arrived at the camp early in the morning while all of us, except Immortalfire, were asleep. He announced today's day as Day 11, for some retarded reason. He then said the challenge to him while everyone else was sleeping. Apparently, we were supposed to go out and find an immunity idol.

By the time we woke up, Immortalfire already found the immunity idol. He chose frail JewHob to go to Exile Island. JewHob was still sleeping so he never knew that he had to go to Exile Island and stayed in his tent which was showing signs of falling apart.

Everyone but JewHob went to Tribal Council where we voted. At 10:00 in the morning :cmad: Erz got the majority of votes. But Matt found out that JewHob never went to Exile Island like he was supposed to. He listened to JewHob's explaination, but in the end, it wasn't enough. He declared that JewHob would be banished to Jury Island as punishment. Matt's Gestapo Goons then dragged him off because he was too weak to go there by himself.

Three hours later, one of Matt's goons arrived at the camp and announced that JewHob died of malnourishment and dehydration on the way to Jury Island. Thankfully they brought the body along with them and we were able to hold a quick service for him just like the others. We'll call up his spirit, just like Venom Drool's when the Jury vote comes.

To calm us, Matt told us that JewHob's fate is at least better than Norman's. It turns out that while at the Hotel on Jury Island, the Ghost of TEDDY arrived attempting to escape from Hell. Satan's guards were close behind him, but TEDDY wouldn't just simply go. He took Norman along with him to become his sex/rape slave. Fran then made a makeshift grave cross for Norman to go along with the rest of those who died in this game :(

[Themanofbat]

Read the above. You know, this is how Hype Survivor used to be during the Reader days. Just quick little challenges that you could blink and miss.

Those were the best... :word: :up: :word:

:yay:

[Erzengel]

^
Is this a harbinger of a TMOB Comic Challenge? :D

[Themanofbat]

You people won't stand a chance... :cmad:

:yay:

[Erzengel]

I won that last time along with the whole Survivor beating Toven and Watchman. :o :up:

[JewishHobbit]

I can't believe this, this freaking sucks.

I'm on Exile Island... I'm technically not even at the 'tribal councel' The last time I spoke during Exile my votes weren't included during the councel, but they are now? You're changing rules mid play here Matt. This is rediculous! I accept that I should have them counted against me in the event of a tie, as they were before, but you've just changed how they apply for this round (not menacingly or anything, I just don't know if you realize this).

You have officially changed the way the Exile votes are played in this game. If you want to be fair, then you need to keep consistent with your rules (which is also why I'm cautious on rules that aren't even posted for all to see).

I'd like to make an official request to you and the Ghost Host for a second meeting on this. You say you want to be fair, then be fair. Keep the Exile votes how you've played them since day one in this. Don't change them suddenly in this thread.

[JewishHobbit]

Also Matt, if you recall (and I don't have the PM's anymore) but the first time I messed up, I apologized to you through PM's. You told me then that I shouldn't worry about it because I'm Immune from being voted out anyhow. You told me that yourself and I hope you remember that. It should apply here as well.

[Darthphere]

Controversy!

[Asteroid-Man]

That's beef man!

[Fran]

It's what's for dinner.

[JewishHobbit]

Alright lets make this quick and painless. Because she did not vote, Kmack is unanimously voted off. Kmack...

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r62/stref2001/Survivor2.jpg

Also, 2 votes are posted against Jewhob for posting twice while on Exile Island. These can come up in future tribal councils in case of a tie.

This shows that I had the votes counted against me, but not included in the actual tribal councel, thus, the same should be said here.

[hippie_hunter]

JewHob has a good point there.

[JewishHobbit]

I honestly do not mean to sound disrespectful, and I acknowledge that I messed up. I have a horrible memory, but that isn't an excuse. I deserve the votes against me in the event of a tie. But as I said, Matt says he decided how he did to be fair... but I believe what I stated is the true fair call. I respect Matt and his decisions, but I'm hoping he realizes that he made a mistake on that call, same as I made a mistake on my posting.

[Asteroid-Man]

*applause*
While we wait for his reply...
I mixed Top of Game with Baiao Destemperado to make a cool new song. I made a video and since neither of the songs had it's own, I made it from scratch. Enjoy!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IQ57uLyn-as

[StorminNorman]

JewHob and I got hosed :(

[Kipobe]

This shows that I had the votes counted against me, but not included in the actual tribal councel, thus, the same should be said here.

Did anyone have more than two votes in that council? :huh:

[Asteroid-Man]

it doesn't matter. All that does is watchin my video ;)

[Matt]

I honestly do not mean to sound disrespectful, and I acknowledge that I messed up. I have a horrible memory, but that isn't an excuse. I deserve the votes against me in the event of a tie. But as I said, Matt says he decided how he did to be fair... but I believe what I stated is the true fair call. I respect Matt and his decisions, but I'm hoping he realizes that he made a mistake on that call, same as I made a mistake on my posting.

The essential difference is, your two posts were never a majority. That was the issue here. It was a gray area not addressed in the rules. Did Exile Island mean you couldn't be voted against or couldn't be voted off? The ghost host and I, considering opinions from other players (more than Erz, by the way) decided that it was the former, not the latter.

[Mee]

Brodie4evah!

[Fran]

Well, since no-one I know of is hosting 22, and I'm aware of the rules, etc., I'm calling Hype! Survivor 22 as the one hosted by me.

[Matt]

JewHob and I got hosed :(

Neither of you were screwed, you were in fact the exact opposite. Screw involves a breaking of a rule. In this case one of your fellow players followed the rules to a T and has used it to his advantage.

[StorminNorman]

Neither of you were screwed, you were in fact the exact opposite. Screw involves a breaking of a rule. In this case one of your fellow players followed the rules to a T and has used it to his advantage.

Its my party and I will cry if I want to :cmad:

I could make the point though that it was your refusal to reverse of a decision you made (the challenge eliminating `1 not 2 challengers) that led to my castaway, while I was put in that situation because you DID reverse a decision you made (to allow Teddy's prize count).

While one could argue that Teddy's prize gave me a chance to save myself, so I should not complain about it - it also made me a huge target, especially at this point in the game. If you were going to take that out, one could argue you should of taken the whole round out.

But it is not worth the *****ing and moaning, I am instead simply looking forward to Survivor 20 and hope I can make the game.

[Matt]

Its my party and I will cry if I want to :cmad:

I could make the point though that it was your refusal to reverse of a decision you made (the challenge eliminating `1 not 2 challengers) that led to my castaway, while I was put in that situation because you DID reverse a decision you made (to allow Teddy's prize count).

While one could argue that Teddy's prize gave me a chance to save myself, so I should not complain about it - it also made me a huge target, especially at this point in the game. If you were going to take that out, one could argue you should of taken the whole round out.


My head just exploded. Can I reply to this in the morning?

[Mee]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/Jake-/king.jpg

[StorminNorman]

My head just exploded. Can I reply to this in the morning?

You don't really have to reply at all.

Though I feel as if I got the slight short-end of the stick, I am not bitter.

Someone had to lose. :csad:

[StorminNorman]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/Jake-/king.jpg

Wow, two E's really ARE better than one! :o

[JewishHobbit]

The essential difference is, your two posts were never a majority. That was the issue here. It was a gray area not addressed in the rules. Did Exile Island mean you couldn't be voted against or couldn't be voted off? The ghost host and I, considering opinions from other players (more than Erz, by the way) decided that it was the former, not the latter.

I reply with this...

2) My second announcement of the day is a new addition to this game. Anyone who has seen the past few seasons of Survivor is familiar with something known as "Exile Island". Each time a tribe loses, the opposing tribe will select a member to send to Exile Island. This member will not get to vote in tribal council (also, they will not be able to be voted off) and they will not be permitted to take part in the next day's challenge (they will return to their tribe following it). How will I keep them from doing the challenge, you ask? There are moles in this game, like last game. I have AT LEAST 2 in each tribe. So if you cheat, I will know. Unlike last game, there is no benefit to hunting down the moles (although the mole may recieve bonus points if they make it to the end), the moles will not try to destroy your tribe like last game...they are there simply for my benefit and are a player like the rest of you. So behave and no forwarding the challenge PM to our exiles or I'll know and you will be removed from the game. Oh, did I mention that on Exile Island there is a hidden immunity idol that can be used at any point in the game? It is hidden somewhere on this board and you will be given a clue on how to find it each time you go. The idol can be used once anywhere up until the final four. If you get it, no one will know but you and the people you choose to tell.

That was in the beginning of the Day 2 thread. Your stated rules say that I cannot get voted off. Even if they are my votes, I still can't get voted off the island. That is directly from you, THE official rule.

I'm not seeing the adamant task of sending me home this week. I messed up, punish me, but punish me within your rules. Add those 5 posts as votes for future ties. Heck, add votes for these arguments I've been posting (save the one you said I could), but according to the rules that you put into play, I should not being going home this week.

[Fran]

You do know that Matt's rule is open to interpretation, right?

"Voted off" as opposed to "amassing votes" is NOT the same thing. "Voted off" suggests receiving votes from others. "Amassing votes" has to have a tangible way of being punished.

And doing that in future councils isn't a really valid way, since the past-vote system is merely a tie-breaker measure... not a penalty.

[JewishHobbit]

He simply stated that I can't be voted off. If I amass more votes than anyone else, is it not my votes that are sending me home? That's still being voted off and an exile cannot be voted off.

[Matt]

I reply with this...



That was in the beginning of the Day 2 thread. Your stated rules say that I cannot get voted off. Even if they are my votes, I still can't get voted off the island. That is directly from you, THE official rule.

I'm not seeing the adamant task of sending me home this week. I messed up, punish me, but punish me within your rules. Add those 5 posts as votes for future ties. Heck, add votes for these arguments I've been posting (save the one you said I could), but according to the rules that you put into play, I should not being going home this week.

It depends on how you look at it. You were ineligible to be voted off by the other players. They did not vote you off. You voted yourself off. Like I said, at best it was a gray area of the rules and the ghost host and I interpreted it as "You cannot be voted off (by other players)." Besides, you broke this rule on numerous occassions. It is not as if this is your first time. Had it been, I likely would've let it slide, but you were aware of the rule and ignored it regardless. Furthermore, the official Exile Island rules were changed upon the merge. The updated official rules have been in the spoiler section since the merge. Those are the game's official rules. It is much more fuzzy. It says "safe from tribal council". And you were, you were not voted off through means of tribal council. You were voted off through penalty votes. Like I said, I did not come to this conclusion alone. I have PMs from 3 or 4 other players weighing in on it feeling that your vote out is the appropriate action.

[JewishHobbit]

It's not ignoring, it's forgetting.

And if this is your final decision, then fine. I think it's bad hosting (and ghost hosting). You cannot take a rule and bend it to make it fit the situation. I cannot get voted off. Me having more votes than the others and going home for it is me getting voted off. I've hosted Contest of Marvels for over a year now and never once have I bent a rule, or punished a player for entering a grey area. If anything a grey area was my failure for not clarifying in the first place.

I think anyone here will agree that I'm not the type of person who just goes and rebels against rules. I've not done it in any previous survivor games, I've not broken any rules in any other games I've played (Contest of Marvels, DTL, Marvel RPG, etc.). I do everything by the book. The two times I broke this rule is simply due to forgetting, and yes, I agree that I should be punished, but your level of punishment here is absurd. You are breaking your own rules! You never stated that amassing votes is differant from actual votes, you simply said I can't be voted out.

You're smart Matt, you always have been. The only thing I see here is that either 1) You're letting other people influence your common sense, 2) you have something personal against me (don't know why that would be though), or 3) your cheating for someone else (I highly doubt this one too, it's not you).

I'm not ragging on you Matt, but I know you can see what I"m talking about. I've not called you out on anything before, though there were things I thought coudl have been handled better. I think you've done a decent job thus far, but this is rediculous. If you can't make your rules and stick to them, and if you can't go a game without bending them (because that's what this is), then you shouldn't be hosting.

[Matt]

It's not ignoring, it's forgetting.

And if this is your final decision, then fine. I think it's bad hosting (and ghost hosting). You cannot take a rule and bend it to make it fit the situation. I cannot get voted off. Me having more votes than the others and going home for it is me getting voted off. I've hosted Contest of Marvels for over a year now and never once have I bent a rule, or punished a player for entering a grey area. If anything a grey area was my failure for not clarifying in the first place.

I think anyone here will agree that I'm not the type of person who just goes and rebels against rules. I've not done it in any previous survivor games, I've not broken any rules in any other games I've played (Contest of Marvels, DTL, Marvel RPG, etc.). I do everything by the book. The two times I broke this rule is simply due to forgetting, and yes, I agree that I should be punished, but your level of punishment here is absurd. You are breaking your own rules! You never stated that amassing votes is differant from actual votes, you simply said I can't be voted out.

You're smart Matt, you always have been. The only thing I see here is that either 1) You're letting other people influence your common sense, 2) you have something personal against me (don't know why that would be though), or 3) your cheating for someone else (I highly doubt this one too, it's not you).

I'm not ragging on you Matt, but I know you can see what I"m talking about. I've not called you out on anything before, though there were things I thought coudl have been handled better. I think you've done a decent job thus far, but this is rediculous. If you can't make your rules and stick to them, and if you can't go a game without bending them (because that's what this is), then you shouldn't be hosting.


I understand why you are upset, I apologize for this and really wish it didn't happen, but I played the cards I was dealt. I can see why you would disagree and I understand. There was debate over it and at one point I leaned very heavily towards keeping you in but then very good points came up in the debate which has been an all day thing and...the scale was tipped against you. For reasons of other player's safety in the game I cannot explain more, when the game is over I will give you a full explanation on the debating process that occured today and all the behind the scenes events.

[Darren Daring]

Redoy!

[Darren Daring]

Well, since no-one I know of is hosting 22, and I'm aware of the rules, etc., I'm calling Hype! Survivor 22 as the one hosted by me.


No.

[Fran]

No one else called it, so there.

[JewishHobbit]

How about you post them here without names so I can refute them? They're players Matt. Your the host. They're going to tell you what's best for their agenda in the game and shouldn't even have a vote in this thing. If you want your Ghost Host to have imput, then that I understand, but I really can't see why he/she is questioning this.

Overall Matt, YOU ARE THE HOST! You make the decisions. This is a bad decision and you know it. You were leaning toward keeping me in... why? I've not caused trouble in this game. The rules lean more toward me staying in than going out. I've been respectful and the two times I did mess up I owned up for and apologized. It's not my fault that you didn't clarify details of Exile Island. I shouldn't be punished for it. I'm not one to point blame, but that was a mistake of yours, and if it's not been addressed before now, how am I going home for it?

Honestly, and this is my opinion, but I think you've let yourself get too mingled with other people's opinions in this call, and mostly opinions of people who had no right even giving you their opinion. Me going him isn't right in this situation. Me and Erz going into some challenge to duke it out as a result isn't a right decision in this call (it'd just be a way to fix it without actually being fair to either of us).

Can I at least request that you look over all I've said and think on it while you get the next day ready? Forget all the other voices and just think about the rules and what's right?

I'm not a whiner, I've respected both previous games I've played when I was voted out because it was fairly. This just annoys me because I SHOULDN"T be going home this week and it's obvious.

I'm done. I'm going to bed. I just ask that you think on it, as THE HOST, and come to your own conclusion. Ignore anything players have said, but do mind the ghost host, come to your own conclusion about what's right, not distracted by others.

Good night.

[Darren Daring]

No one else called it, so there.


No. As Hype! Survivor Administrator, I Veto. You Haven't earned it.

[Matt]

Furthermore, I would like to state some things

1) Jewhob, you broke this rule in the past. You were punished once. It did not work. Doesn't a more severe punishment make sense for repeat offenses? That did play a part in the decision process.

2) The quote you bolded I said you would not be able to be voted off. And you were safe from being voted off. I would like to stress that you were not voted off. Not a single player cast a vote for you. All the votes were penalties for breaking the rules of the game. You were penalized and the penalties cost you the game.

[Fran]

No. As Hype! Survivor Administrator, I Veto. You Haven't earned it.

I will earn it, eventually.

[Darren Daring]

I will earn it, eventually.


Maybe, but not for 22.

[hippie_hunter]

Well, since no-one I know of is hosting 22, and I'm aware of the rules, etc., I'm calling Hype! Survivor 22 as the one hosted by me.

Is it going to be the one with the losers, women, or tranies?

[Erzengel]

So uh, is now a bad time to ask when the next day is?

[Matt]

So uh, is now a bad time to ask when the next day is?

The next challenge is going to involve past players. I am waiting for PMs from them that are crucial to making it.

[Fran]

Maybe, but not for 22.

I can take that.

Who be doing 22?

[Darren Daring]

Jew, I love ya, but , really, Matt's right on this. I might be willing to change my mind in exchange for some jewing gum, though.

Also, **** movies205.

[Darren Daring]

I can take that.

Who be doing 22?


I dunno, who's doing 21?

[Erzengel]

Maybe, but not for 22.

I'm still slated for 21 but I need a cohost.

No guest hosts this time but I do need someone cause I'm lazy. :up:

[Fran]

I think I would make a good cohost.

But then again, anyone would make a better host compared to that bear.

[hippie_hunter]

Jew, I love ya, but , really, Matt's right on this. I might be willing to change my mind in exchange for some jewing gum, though.

Also, **** movies205.

Wait a minute, Brodies is actually NOT complaining about a decision Matt has made :wow:

[Darren Daring]

I'm still slated for 21 but I need a cohost.

No guest hosts this time but I do need someone cause I'm lazy. :up:

Oh Yeah. You'll probably be starting up some time in the begginging of summer, right? I might be maybe interested in cohosting if you'll have me.

[Matt]

I'm still slated for 21 but I need a cohost.

No guest hosts this time but I do need someone cause I'm lazy. :up:

Like I said, I'll do it with you if you want me...but something tells me I'm too controversial. I think you and Kipobe's forces combined however, would make the single greatest Hype Survivor ever.

[hippie_hunter]

I think I would make a good cohost.

But then again, anyone would make a better host compared to that bear.
True 'dat :o

[Darren Daring]

Wait a minute, Brodies is actually NOT complaining about a decision Matt has made :wow:


What? Really? That can't be right, let me go check.

...


Well I'll be.

[Matt]

Brodie agreed with me...I'm skird :(

[JewishHobbit]

Furthermore, I would like to state some things

1) Jewhob, you broke this rule in the past. You were punished once. It did not work. Doesn't a more severe punishment make sense for repeat offenses? That did play a part in the decision process.

Jump from small punishment to elimination is extreme. I made a mistake, this is true, I know I did. It wasn't like I though "screw the rules, I'm going to post anyway." I'm a stickler for rules, always have been. I havne't even used internet for the past two games, and I guarentee I'm about the only one. A worse punishment would be to double the votes in the event of a tie. A worse punishment would be to give me the votes and not allow me Immunity for the next round or two, or the rest of the game in this case. I think my nature in this game has shown that I'm not vindictive, and that I didn't break the rules on purpose. This close to the end of the game, it'd be stupid. It's almost certain that each round will be close, and to allow my vote to grow is retarded. Mistakes happen.

2) The quote you bolded I said you would not be able to be voted off. And you were safe from being voted off. I would like to stress that you were not voted off. Not a single player cast a vote for you. All the votes were penalties for breaking the rules of the game. You were penalized and the penalties cost you the game.

Again, you didn't specify how that worked in the rules. It was a grey area that you didn't detail, and that was your failing, not mine. To just make up what that means now, on a whim, isn't right. You make the rule, you keep the rule.... you don't add to the rule for punishment. If there's a grey area, then it's a loop hole. You don't get punished for loop holes, it's just a thing that the host messed up with. Last season people found tons of loop holes, Kipobe and Holly didn't punish them, they just fixed the loop hole and moved on.

[Erzengel]

Like I said, I'll do it with you if you want me...but something tells me I'm too controversial. I think you and Kipobe's forces combined however, would make the single greatest Hype Survivor ever.
Will see. Let's see who's around. I was planning on a Summer Survivor. :up:

Maybe late Summer.

[hippie_hunter]

Brodie agreed with me...I'm skird :(
Me too :(

[hippie_hunter]

Now that I do think about it, in all seriousness. A gender reversed Survivor would kick ass. Farmerfrancine, Asteroid-Woman, GoldenAgeHeroine, The Leaguerette, StorminNorma, Aunt Petunia, etc.

[Darren Daring]

Why do you need to play the game? You just did the funnest part. Also, BrodiaBruce is banned:(

[hippie_hunter]

Why do you need to play the game? You just did the funnest part.
Huh :huh:

Also, BrodiaBruce is banned:(
Can't you just call your female counterpart Rene or something?

[Darren Daring]

Coming up with the alterna-names! It's the shizzle!

No. BrodiaBruce!

[hippie_hunter]

Coming up with the alterna-names! It's the shizzle!

No. BrodiaBruce!

I'm telling you transvestive Survivor will be the greatest thing to happen to the game

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p186/hippie_hunter/FemaleMe.jpg

[Asteroid-Man]

No one else called it, so there.
I'm not againts it because I dislike you (which I don't) I think it's unfair. You've only been here since March! That's not even a year man. 2006!? Leave it to people from like 2003-2004 they have seen like every survivor game. But anyways, if you really want it get in contact with the game masters (not Matt. He's just the Host) and see what you can do.

Concerning JewHob, Matt I believe you have made a mistake. Even if you don't wanna admit that the Host has done that. Everyone does it. JewHob did, but man you already posted the rules. I suggest we (players on the first page banner) voted on whether he stays or not.

[Matt]

edit

[Fran]

A-M, Brodie said I could host a future game. I accepted not hosting 22, so lay off.

[Erzengel]

Now that I do think about it, in all seriousness. A gender reversed Survivor would kick ass. Farmerfrancine, Asteroid-Woman, GoldenAgeHeroine, The Leaguerette, StorminNorma, Aunt Petunia, etc.
Hah you can't fem up my name. :up:

[Matt]

Hah you can't fem up my name. :up:

Erzen Gal :oldrazz:

[Erzengel]

You can't fem up my name naturally. :cmad:

Anywho, I have renewed vigor for getting past Day 11.

Bring on Day uh...what is it now 14?

[Immortalfire]

Now that I do think about it, in all seriousness. A gender reversed Survivor would kick ass. Farmerfrancine, Asteroid-Woman, GoldenAgeHeroine, The Leaguerette, StorminNorma, Aunt Petunia, etc. Next time, you guys have got to lure GR87 to play.

[Fran]

He will prove you all wrong if he plays. Vince Young could win Hype Survivor. As could Hal Jordan.

[Immortalfire]

Host: The tribe has spoken GR87, time to go.
Ghostrider87: Never tell me what to do.

[Fran]

If he played, he would probably make NO alliances. Guaranteed.

[Immortalfire]

Only if they were as manly as Hal Jordan....which I assume GR87 already is.

[Fran]

I think a Survivor consisting of some of the football guys would be interesting.
Ben Urich, Mister J, GR87, You, Me, Norman, Mee, etc.

Oh, and Bella, the only true football chick on this forum I think.

[Erzengel]

Bella is going to be my ally.

[Immortalfire]

That would rule.

[hippie_hunter]

Hah you can't fem up my name. :up:
As Matt already said, Erzen Gal or as I say, Erzengella

[Erzengel]

True. But Erzengel is German for Archangel and you can't feminize that as you can with say a Hippie Huntress or Farmerfrancine.

I win.
:up:

[Darthphere]

I'm still slated for 21 but I need a cohost.

No guest hosts this time but I do need someone cause I'm lazy. :up:

*cough*

[Erzengel]

*cough*

Here you go. You better take care of that cough.

http://pics.drugstore.com/prodimg/11314/200.jpg

[Darthphere]

Here you go. You better take care of that cough.

http://pics.drugstore.com/prodimg/11314/200.jpg

:ninja:

[Erzengel]

These gaps in between the challenges are sucking the Mattitude out of this game. :csad:

[Erzengel]

My Co-Host Ranking System for Survivor 21
Note: Ranking can change at any time.

1. Brodie - Top Pick. Brodie hasn't hosted in a while and I think he's due. Plus he's got sass, and lots of it. However, I worry about his interest in a 2 month event will wain.

2. Mattitude - I can see myself hosting with Matt. I just worry that he will run out of ideas because of this Survivor.

3. Darthphere - Phere's been in 2 Survivors and I'm kinda surprised he wants to host one. Maybe when it comes closer to mine, I'll ask Phere to pm me some of his ideas for challenges. :up:

4. Famerfran - Unfortunately, you are new to the game and are still getting the hang of everything. I could give you a 1 shot guest host (even though I said no to guest hosts), during mine to prove yourself.

[Darthphere]

My Co-Host Ranking System for Survivor 21
Note: Ranking can change at any time.

1. Brodie - Top Pick. Brodie hasn't hosted in a while and I think he's due. Plus he's got sass, and lots of it. However, I worry about his interest in a 2 month event will wain.

2. Mattitude - I can see myself hosting with Matt. I just worry that he will run out of ideas because of this Survivor.

3. Darthphere - Phere's been in 2 Survivors and I'm kinda surprised he wants to host one. Maybe when it comes closer to mine, I'll ask Phere to pm me some of his ideas for challenges. :up:

4. Famerfran - Unfortunately, you are new to the game and are still getting the hang of everything. I could give you a 1 shot guest host (even though I said no to guest hosts), during mine to prove yourself.

Actually, I've been in 3.:csad:

[Darren Daring]

Also, I miight add, I was originally slated to host this survivor, but backed out. However, That didn't stop me from stockpiling a modest amount of ideas.


Brodie for the win!

[Darren Daring]

A-M, Brodie said I could host a future game. I accepted not hosting 22, so lay off.


Ah ah ah, I said you could maybe host another game. There's no gaurantee you'll make it. However, keep playing, try and find a guest host job and there shouldn't be anything stopping you.

[Colossal Spoons]

I want some goddamn jalapeno poppers!

[Erzengel]

Also, I miight add, I was originally slated to host this survivor, but backed out. However, That didn't stop me from stockpiling a modest amount of ideas.


Brodie for the win!

If you can get your Waterologist name back, so you can host with that it'd be perfect.

:up:

[Darren Daring]

Don't tempt me with secret Dreams, erz:(

[AndThePickles]

I want some goddamn jalapeno poppers!

Great, thanks, now I want some too :cmad:

[Matt]

Hey, I'm going to give the remaining people I am looking for until say, tomorrow. Would you guys just like the rest of the weekend off or would you rather get started up on the next Day tomorrow?

[Erzengel]

I don't care either way.

[Matt]

Well, we'll see what happens...

By the way, I have some new incentive to make the final three. The three players will get the distinct honor in taking place in one of TMOB's famous comic trivia challenges...so yeah, if that doesn't inspire you...nothing will.

[Erzengel]

I called that earlier in the thread.
Those were the best...







^

Is this a harbinger of a TMOB Comic Challenge?

[Matt]

I called that earlier in the thread.

Haha, its been in the works since day 2 or 3 actually.

[Erzengel]

Don't steal my thunder Matthew. :csad:

[TEDDY]

I think I would make a good cohost.

But then again, anyone would make a better host compared to that bear.


Jealous. :oldrazz:

[hippie_hunter]

True. But Erzengel is German for Archangel and you can't feminize that as you can with say a Hippie Huntress or Farmerfrancine.

I win.
:up:

Archangelica :ninja:

[hippie_hunter]

What's a TMOB comic challenge?

[Fran]

True. But Erzengel is German for Archangel and you can't feminize that as you can with say a Hippie Huntress or Farmerfrancine.

I win.
:up:

While exploring the Spider-Man forums, I came upon a farmernudie. Interesting...

My Co-Host Ranking System for Survivor 21
Note: Ranking can change at any time.

1. Brodie - Top Pick. Brodie hasn't hosted in a while and I think he's due. Plus he's got sass, and lots of it. However, I worry about his interest in a 2 month event will wain.

2. Mattitude - I can see myself hosting with Matt. I just worry that he will run out of ideas because of this Survivor.

3. Darthphere - Phere's been in 2 Survivors and I'm kinda surprised he wants to host one. Maybe when it comes closer to mine, I'll ask Phere to pm me some of his ideas for challenges. :up:

4. Famerfran - Unfortunately, you are new to the game and are still getting the hang of everything. I could give you a 1 shot guest host (even though I said no to guest hosts), during mine to prove yourself.

Understandable. I'd take it.

Ah ah ah, I said you could maybe host another game. There's no gaurantee you'll make it. However, keep playing, try and find a guest host job and there shouldn't be anything stopping you.

Yes sir. :up:

[Erzengel]

Archangelica :ninja:
Still not my name. :o

What's a TMOB comic challenge?
A comic book trivia challenge.

His questions are pretty tough.

[Fran]

Comic book challenge + Me = Crap.

[Mee]

I could be a guest host. Not a TEDDY style mess up everything guest host though. :up:

I could never host/co-host though, I'm too lazy. And horrible with schedules deadlines and the like.


Woo!


jag

[Erzengel]

Survivor 69: Challenge 16 (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175593&page=2)

These are the questions from TMOB's last Comic Challenge.

[Kipobe]

Neither one of my games did TMOB come forward with his challenge... he was a no-show two times in a row. :cmad: Commie bastard! :cmad: And I thought we were friends/lovers. :cmad:

[Erzengel]

Jewhob, I'm sorry about this and isn't how I wanted to see you go...however, it is the rules. By a vote of 5 to you, 3 to Erzengel, and 2 to Hippie_Hunter...Jewhob, you will be the third member of our jury.

Actually Jewhob is the 4th member of the Jury.
Venom Drool
Brodie
StorminNorman
JewishHobbit

[Fran]

So I take it we have the weekend off.

:up:

[Matt]

Do you want the weekend off? I can start things up. I have the challenge ready, but it is going to be a 24 hour one and I take it you don't want to spend your saturday doing it. How about we start Sunday?

[Fran]

I don't care, I was just wondering. I don't want to speak for everyone else.

[Erzengel]

Sunday afternoon is fine.

[hippie_hunter]

I personally would like the weekend off. My dad has come back to visit me and the family because my birthday is next week and he won't be able to stay all week. So I would like to spend a little bit more time doing work, homework, spend some time with non-Internet people, etc.

[Kipobe]

Since it's a 24-hour challenge, Monday mid-morning would be a great time to start it... thanks for the weekend off.

[Matt]

alright, I'll start things up monday then since both H_H and Kipobe would like the weekend off.

[Matt]

and Jewhob is still flipping out on me via PM. :csad: He seems to fail to grasp the concept that he broke the rules and thinks that I simply booted him from the game.

[Mee]

Matt doesn't care about Hobbit people.

:csad:

[Matt]

Matt doesn't care about Hobbit people.

:csad:

Nah, the hobbits are fine in my book. Its the Jews I have a problem with. :cmad: :cwink:

[Darthphere]

and Jewhob is still flipping out on me via PM. :csad: He seems to fail to grasp the concept that he broke the rules and thinks that I simply booted him from the game.

The thing is, I can see his point, but I also see it as, he has all these penalty votes against him, but it can only be used in the event of a tie? Bull****. He could go through the end of the game and win with 7 penalty votes against him and they would have never been used.

[Matt]

The thing is, I can see his point, but I also see it as, he has all these penalty votes against him, but it can only be used in the event of a tie? Bull****. He could go through the end of the game and win with 7 penalty votes against him and they would have never been used.

The way I saw it is, he broke it the first time and I let him off fairly easily. The second time, I had to do something to give the rules some teeth, otherwise why even have them?

[Darthphere]

The way I saw it is, he broke it the first time and I let him off fairly easily. The second time, I had to do something to give the rules some teeth, otherwise why even have them?

Pretty much. Like I said, he could get 150 penalty votes, and they would never have been used. I dont think ties are all that common in the Survivors I've played in at least.

[Matt]

Pretty much. Like I said, he could get 150 penalty votes, and they would never have been used. I dont think ties are all that common in the Survivors I've played in at least.

There has been one this game and it was only because of that assinine situation Teddy created.

[Fran]

Well, I'll have the majority of Monday to try the challenge... good :up:

[JewishHobbit]

The way I saw it is, he broke it the first time and I let him off fairly easily. The second time, I had to do something to give the rules some teeth, otherwise why even have them?

I'm not mad that you punished me. I broke rules (unintentionally, but nonetheelss. I'm not even mad that you kicked me out. I'm mad that you, as a host, refuse to be a host and own up to your own mistake. I'd be mad if you did this same thing to any of the others and I were still in the game. You make rules, you keep rules. If you fail to clarify a rule, then you fix the rule, and if need be, further the punishment, but to just kick me out (because that IS what you did) is bad hosting on your part. You set a rule, then made up some rules and stretched other rules to send me home... yeah, that equals just kicking me out in my opinion. Also, what host goes to the players to help decide of someone should be kicked off? Keep in mind, they're those players that are trying to win and get people kicked off ANYWAY! Of coarse they're going to push for me getting kicked off. And one of them is Erz? They guy who would go home if I stay, and seemed to be worried that that would be the case even before the votes were revealed? That's just stupid. That's why I'm mad, you were a bad host. Your way of handling the Teddy situation also sucked, equalling two bad calls in a row. In my opinion, no matter who wins this game, it's a tainted victory because they most probably wouldn't have won otherwise.

Eh, but I don't care anymore.

[JewishHobbit]

The thing is, I can see his point, but I also see it as, he has all these penalty votes against him, but it can only be used in the event of a tie? Bull****. He could go through the end of the game and win with 7 penalty votes against him and they would have never been used.

I can see your point on this, and I agree, but Matt should have realized that when he made the rule. He should have made the rule something of more teeth, such as have it dealt more with Immunities and such. Each post is the amount of days where I would be ineligable to win an Immunity. That makes more sense to me, but that's not was Matt decided, not that what Matt decides matters, because he doesn't keep them anyhow (because votes are suddenly differant when amassed, even though they're still votes, because no one else actually voted, and now it means something else, though they're still considered votes... yeah, you got me too)... but nonetheless.

[Erzengel]

I'm not mad that you punished me. I broke rules (unintentionally, but nonetheelss. I'm not even mad that you kicked me out. I'm mad that you, as a host, refuse to be a host and own up to your own mistake. I'd be mad if you did this same thing to any of the others and I were still in the game. You make rules, you keep rules. If you fail to clarify a rule, then you fix the rule, and if need be, further the punishment, but to just kick me out (because that IS what you did) is bad hosting on your part. You set a rule, then made up some rules and stretched other rules to send me home... yeah, that equals just kicking me out in my opinion. Also, what host goes to the players to help decide of someone should be kicked off? Keep in mind, they're those players that are trying to win and get people kicked off ANYWAY! Of coarse they're going to push for me getting kicked off. And one of them is Erz? They guy who would go home if I stay, and seemed to be worried that that would be the case even before the votes were revealed? That's just stupid. That's why I'm mad, you were a bad host. Your way of handling the Teddy situation also sucked, equalling two bad calls in a row. In my opinion, no matter who wins this game, it's a tainted victory because they most probably wouldn't have won otherwise.

Eh, but I don't care anymore.

Actually if you saw some of my earlier posts in this thread I said you should have stayed. :huh:

Anywho, Matthew you starting the next day or what?

[Immortalfire]

This is just about as wild, crazy, scheming and tight as the real Survivor. :ninja:



Cool :yay:

[JewishHobbit]

Actually if you saw some of my earlier posts in this thread I said you should have stayed. :huh:

Anywho, Matthew you starting the next day or what?

My mistake :up:

[Fran]

QUIET! ALL OF YOU!

They're approaching the Raptor fences.

[Matt]

I can see your point on this, and I agree, but Matt should have realized that when he made the rule. He should have made the rule something of more teeth, such as have it dealt more with Immunities and such. Each post is the amount of days where I would be ineligable to win an Immunity. That makes more sense to me, but that's not was Matt decided, not that what Matt decides matters, because he doesn't keep them anyhow (because votes are suddenly differant when amassed, even though they're still votes, because no one else actually voted, and now it means something else, though they're still considered votes... yeah, you got me too)... but nonetheless.

The problem is Exile Island is not a form of immunity and it was never stated to be such. You were not eligible to be voted for in tribal council as it was assumed you are not there, however, as made precedent the last time you broke the rule on day 9, a penalty vote is aquired for each time you post while in Exile. You aquired 5 penalty votes. That was the majority, therefore you were voted off. Its really simple.

[Matt]

New day will start some time this afternoon.

[JewishHobbit]

And the Pentalty votes weren't applied in the councel, thus, you broke that stipulation when you applied them to this councel. You changed the rules.


And on an unrelated note: I just put up this big picture of Carrie Underwood in our living room with hearts around it and a note saying "Jew's Next Wife, Carrie Hobbit" (Substitute "Jew" for my first name, and "Hobbit" for my last).

I'm going to see how long it takes for my wife to notice :)

[Matt]

And the Pentalty votes weren't applied in the councel, thus, you broke that stipulation when you applied them to this councel. You changed the rules.


How do you figure? The penalty votes were applied once. There were 2. The majority vote was 5 or 6. They weren't enough to make a difference and thus I tacked them on at the end as to not throw off the count. They were still votes used against you. In the case of a tie you would have been seen as having 2 votes against you in the day 9 tribal council.

And whats amazing me about all this is how you refuse to take any responsibility what so ever. You broke a rule. Not once, not twice, but on 7 seperate occassions. You knew it was a rule as you were disciplined for it in the past. Yet you seem to ignore that. It is just big bad Matt picking on you. Get over yourself. :rolleyes:

[Fran]

Don't mess with the bull, you'll get the horns.

[Darthphere]

Matt is an ******* though, but fair.

[Fran]

I wish this forum was uncensored.

[JewishHobbit]

How do you figure? The penalty votes were applied once. There were 2. The majority vote was 5 or 6. They weren't enough to make a difference and thus I tacked them on at the end as to not throw off the count. They were still votes used against you. In the case of a tie you would have been seen as having 2 votes against you in the day 9 tribal council.

Then your layout sucks. You kicked out Kmack, then posted my votes. I took that as you did the elimination votes, and when it was done then you reminded us and made it official that I had two votes against me in case of a tie.

That's my beef here. You haven't been thinking through the way you do some of the things here. You did that layout intending one way, though it read another. You create rules that were straight forward, then say they mean something else and that it's a grey area, and then create a punishment previously unstated or warned of to punish me for falling into that grey area that shouldn't even have even been a grey area if you were doing your job correctly. You've been topsy turvy off and on all game when people whine and complain, changing things here and there (and no, I can't think of many examples, but if I were to go back and look I'm sure I could find them, as they've been annoying me). You pick Teddy to guest host, who has never played survivor a day on his life and had no experience on how to host it, or even play it, and you didn't supervize him in his endeaver. He talked about surprises that even you didn't know about, and you let him go ahead with it... thus causing the problems we had (and undoubtedly changed the coarse of the game at that point).

Eh, I could keep going, but I'm going to stop. The point is, give me Asteroid Man, he'll be a better host than you've been :)

[Erzengel]

Yeah cause no offense my "Teddy Rape" Avatar was hands down the best. :o

[Fran]

Can we just let this go? I mean, Good God...

[JewishHobbit]

How do you figure? The penalty votes were applied once. There were 2. The majority vote was 5 or 6. They weren't enough to make a difference and thus I tacked them on at the end as to not throw off the count. They were still votes used against you. In the case of a tie you would have been seen as having 2 votes against you in the day 9 tribal council.

And whats amazing me about all this is how you refuse to take any responsibility what so ever. You broke a rule. Not once, not twice, but on 7 seperate occassions. You knew it was a rule as you were disciplined for it in the past. Yet you seem to ignore that. It is just big bad Matt picking on you. Get over yourself. :rolleyes:

Um, have you been reading anyting I"ve posted? I've taken responsibility for it a good 10 times. (and way to make it sound worse than it really was... 7 time? 7 votes, 2 mistakes) And I don't think 'big bad matt' is picking on me, I just think you suck and are a horrible host, that's all. You made mistakes (which YOU haven't owned up to by the way), and I just tried to show you where you messed up, but you're so bull headed that you refused to admit it. You remind me of my old boss. He's dead now. Just kidding.

[JewishHobbit]

Can we just let this go? I mean, Good God...

Nah, I'm having fun. And I have two days off and over a foot of snow coming tonight. I have plenty of time.

[Darthphere]

Um, have you been reading anyting I"ve posted? I've taken responsibility for it a good 10 times. (and way to make it sound worse than it really was... 7 time? 7 votes, 2 mistakes) And I don't think 'big bad matt' is picking on me, I just think you suck and are a horrible host, that's all. You made mistakes (which YOU haven't owned up to by the way), and I just tried to show you where you messed up, but you're so bull headed that you refused to admit it. You remind me of my old boss. He's dead now. Just kidding.

Matt has been a lot better host than Kipobe/Toven thats for sure. Take the sour grapes and be done with it. It ain't Survivor if somebody doesn't get screwed over. Either way, this wouldn't have transpired if you followed the rules. This isn't Pan's Labytrinth, you wont be given a second chance.

[Fran]

Matt has been a lot better host than Kipobe/Toven thats for sure. Take the sour grapes and be done with it. It ain't Survivor if somebody doesn't get screwed over. Either way, this wouldn't have transpired if you followed the rules. This isn't Pan's Labyrinth, you wont be given a second chance.

What did you think of the movie?

[Darthphere]

What did you think of the movie?

Depressing as ****, but overall excellent.

[Fran]

Depressing as ****, but overall excellent.

:up:

It was depressing, but truly an amazing movie.

[JewishHobbit]

Matt has been a lot better host than Kipobe/Toven thats for sure. Take the sour grapes and be done with it. It ain't Survivor if somebody doesn't get screwed over. Either way, this wouldn't have transpired if you followed the rules. This isn't Pan's Labytrinth, you wont be given a second chance.

Ironically enough, I don't think Kipobe and Holly did that bad of a job. I certainly don't remember any major problems or bad calls like what Matt's done. Holly had iffy moments, though I think Kipobe did a fine job.

And I don't really care to be back in the game. Like I said, I'm not mad that I got kicked out. I just think Matt's running a poor game. I was even gracious enough to move it to PM's so you guys wouldn't have to read all of it, but Matt brought it back up here, so I simply replied. Again, poor judgement on Matt's behalf.

[JewishHobbit]

What did you think of the movie?

I'm curious about the move, but I don't watch Rated R movies. I'm not much on nudity, cursing more than necessary, blood, or abundant death, and it gives my wife major nightmares. I remember back when we were dating we saw Enemy at the Gates and I had to come over her house and hold her until she fell asleep because of how afraid she was. Then I had to talk to her on the phone at night for about 2 or 3 days after that so she could fall asleep (apparently I'm that boring).

So yeah, we don't see Rated R movies. But maybe if it ever comes on tv, I'll make sure I tape it.

[Darren Daring]

Matt has been a lot better host than Kipobe/Toven thats for sure.


Okay, That's It, Darthphere is in somebody's pocket and his opinion shouldn't be trsuted.

[Fran]

I'm curious about the move, but I don't watch Rated R movies. I'm not much on nudity, cursing more than necessary, blood, or abundant death, and it gives my wife major nightmares. I remember back when we were dating we saw Enemy at the Gates and I had to come over her house and hold her until she fell asleep because of how afraid she was. Then I had to talk to her on the phone at night for about 2 or 3 days after that so she could fall asleep (apparently I'm that boring).

So yeah, we don't see Rated R movies. But maybe if it ever comes on tv, I'll make sure I tape it.

That is a lame excuse to miss this movie. It's a masterpiece. Go by yourself, or with some friends, just don't take your wife if she's gonna be scared :huh:

[Darthphere]

I'm curious about the move, but I don't watch Rated R movies. I'm not much on nudity, cursing more than necessary, blood, or abundant death, and it gives my wife major nightmares. I remember back when we were dating we saw Enemy at the Gates and I had to come over her house and hold her until she fell asleep because of how afraid she was. Then I had to talk to her on the phone at night for about 2 or 3 days after that so she could fall asleep (apparently I'm that boring).

So yeah, we don't see Rated R movies. But maybe if it ever comes on tv, I'll make sure I tape it.

Enemy at the Gates is Aladdin compared to this, really.

Okay, That's It, Darthphere is in somebody's pocket and his opinion shouldn't be trsuted.

I'm in your pocket.:huh:

[JewishHobbit]

That is a lame excuse to miss this movie. It's a masterpiece. Go by yourself, or with some friends, just don't take your wife if she's gonna be scared :huh:

I also don't like gore and miscalaneous death... but I still wouldn't mind seeing it. Honestly, none of my other friends care to see it, and I don't go to the movies alone (I'm not much of a movie or television person). I figure I'll just wait. I'm sure my mom will rent it eventually. I'll probably watch it then.

[Darren Daring]

Enemy at the Gates is Aladdin compared to this, really.



I'm in your pocket.:huh:


Man, I wish I hadn't of voted you off. Nex game, let's be allies for real, kay?

[Darthphere]

Man, I wish I hadn't of voted you off. Nex game, let's be allies for real, kay?

Sure why not. Maybe I'll make it to the 5th challenge again!

[enterthemadness]

Still on day 11? Wow...talk about a slow game. :o

[Darren Daring]

If only ETM was our host:(

[Erzengel]

I think ETM, Teddy and Asteroid-Man should host Survivor: Cluster F'.

"Okay it seems like 13 of you get immunity."

:down

[Matt]

Still on day 11? Wow...talk about a slow game. :o

Actually, I think we may be on the road to being the fastest survivor ever.

[JewishHobbit]

I think ETM, Teddy and Asteroid-Man should host Survivor: Cluster F'.

"Okay it seems like 13 of you get immunity."

:down

I could make a Matt joke here, but I'll hold off. But only for your Erz.

[Matt]

I could make a Matt joke here, but I'll hold off. But only for your Erz.

Besides, it would be too easy and you are above that.

[Matt]

Day 14:

http://superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=265352