2007 NFL Thread

[Cmill216]

You KNOW some team is gonna fire their coach within the next few days to get Marty.

It was nice knowing you Lane Kiffin. :csad:

[Byrd Man]

It was nice knowing you Lane Kiffin. :csad:

hell yeah. I may have hated him when he was a Charger, but join the Raiders, Marty. Cause one and done in the playoffs is better than 4-12.

[Showtime]

Marty is still a valuable coach to somebody, he is just a choke artist. Hard to overcome that.

[StorminNorman]

You KNOW some team is gonna fire their coach within the next few days to get Marty.

Meh, Marty is a decent coach, but considering his age and lack of post season production, I think San Diego is his last Head Coaching job.

[Ben Urich]

Wouldn't it suck to see the coach who led his team to a 14-2 record last season end up in a booth for ABC or CBS the next? :csad:

[Immortalfire]

Marty is out? wow

[StorminNorman]

You know who is kicking himself right now?

Wade Phillips.

[Fran]

Btw, thanx for doing the Playoffs Pool. It was a lot of fun. :up:

Hey, no problem. It made this place fun again, for a couple weeks.

I'm looking forward to the NBA one :up:

I'd like to once again thank everyone who participated. Except for Hooters Pimp. You proved NO ONE wrong. Jerk.

[Immortalfire]

I'd like to once again thank everyone who participated. Except for Hooters Pimp. You proved NO ONE wrong. Jerk. *snort* :hyper:

[Cmill216]

I should coach the Chargers. I mean, seriously. What does Marty do that I can't do? Oh, that's right: suck. :whatever:

[StorminNorman]

I should coach the Chargers. I mean, seriously. What does Marty do that I can't do? Oh, that's right: suck. :whatever:

Heh...what a wicked good burn. :up:












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[StorminNorman]

Hey, no problem. It made this place fun again, for a couple weeks.

I'm looking forward to the NBA one :up:

I'd like to once again thank everyone who participated. Except for Hooters Pimp. You proved NO ONE wrong. Jerk.

I bet HP is actually God posting on a message board just to see how we treat others.

Good job Fran, you condemned us all to hell :up:

*hums What If God Was One Of Us hums*

[Fran]

I bet HP is actually God posting on a message board just to see how we treat others.

Good job Fran, you condemned us all to hell :up:

*hums What If God Was One Of Us hums*

But.. God can get any woman he wanted to :huh:

[StorminNorman]

But.. God can get any woman he wanted to :huh:

Any woman but Mary apparently...

[Mee]

So, who's left for the Chargers to hire to replace Marty?


Ron Rivera?

[Cmill216]

But on the real, Marty doesn't coach either side of the ball. He had two tremendous coordinators who did all the work. Schotts just sat there, yelled, and "managed the game". Which essentially means, ANYBODY could've been qualified for that job last year.

[StorminNorman]

So, who's left for the Chargers to hire to replace Marty?


Ron Rivera?

Ron Rivera is a 4-3 type of guy, no? I am not sure.

[StorminNorman]

But on the real, Marty doesn't coach either side of the ball. He had two tremendous coordinators who did all the work. Schotts just sat there, yelled, and "managed the game". Which essentially means, ANYBODY could've been qualified for that job last year.

He's the Bobby Bowden of the NFL :(

[Cmill216]

Ron Rivera is a 4-3 type of guy, no? I am not sure.

He worked in Jim Johnson's system in Philly and runs Lovie's Tampa 2 in Chicago, so he's been exposed to a lot.

[Mister J]

He's the Bobby Bowden of the NFL :(
Bobby won two titles. :o

He would have won more, but he had to deal with the mighty 'Canes. :hyper:

...back when the 'Canes were mighty. :csad:

...NEXT YEAR! :cmad:

[bored]

But on the real, Marty doesn't coach either side of the ball. He had two tremendous coordinators who did all the work. Schotts just sat there, yelled, and "managed the game". Which essentially means, ANYBODY could've been qualified for that job last year.

Oh, he did more than that. He also had them go for it on fourth downs at bad times, and take safeties when they could have just punted, and, and, and.... dammit, Shotty sucks. He's the ultimate tease. He gets you so far, then nothing.

[DarthRekal]

why did they wait til AFTER cam and wade were gone??:cmad:



idiots!

[ScottyBBadd]

what the hell the giants have aparently cut Lavar Arrington :confused:

Here is to hoping that the Boys sign him.

[ScottyBBadd]

So, who's left for the Chargers to hire to replace Marty?


Ron Rivera?

Norv Turner.

[Kaleb]

^ oh my , could you imagine Norv Turner with LT, that would be sick ,I have a feeling that the Chargers GM has been wanting to fire marty for a while ,but he wanted to to it after all the other teams head coachig vacant spots had been filled up.

[bored]

Here is to hoping that the Boys sign him.

Nevah! The Chiefs need a third good linebacker to go with DJ and Kawika Mitchell (if they can keep him in the offseason)! Seriously, Kendrell Bell was past his prime long before he came to KC.

[Jerry]

Hey, no problem. It made this place fun again, for a couple weeks.

I'm looking forward to the NBA one :up:

I'd like to once again thank everyone who participated. Except for Hooters Pimp. You proved NO ONE wrong. Jerk.


Eh, he kinda did when you look back at the season. At least in some aspects. Vince Young really helped turned their season around. He was who Hooter's Pimp thought he was. He got the rookie of the year award and, say what you want about it, made the Pro Bowl. And all of a sudden the Titans are on the cusp.

[Fran]

That doesn't count. I'm talking about the pool itself.

[Jerry]

Didn't he have one of the better records?

[Fran]

He got second in the pool finals, but he got beat by StorminNorman, who proved him wrong.

[LostSon88]

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/02/14/49ERS.TMP

DAMMIT!!!!!!! Why can't these other teams just leave the Niners alone?!?!?!

First Dallas, now San Diego?! Get your own coaches! :cmad:

[Darren Daring]

You're so cute.

[LostSon88]

It's only because i'm angry.

:oldrazz:

[Memphis Slim]

http://thebosh.com/archives/upload/2007/02/beyonce%20sports.jpg

:woot:

[Mister J]

Beyonce is the new head coach of the Chargers? :huh:

[Kaleb]

lol my thoughts exactly, I mean what an insanely random post

[Kaleb]

Calvin Johnson reportedly ran a 4.33 forty at a workout with his speed and conditioning trainer on Tuesday.

He also recorded an 11-foot standing broad jump and a vertical leap of 43 inches. These are insane numbers, but he'll have to repeat at the Yellow Jackets' pro day or at the Combine next week for them to be legit.

[Immortalfire]

http://thebosh.com/archives/upload/2007/02/beyonce%20sports.jpg

:woot: :up:

[Cmill216]

Calvin Johnson reportedly ran a 4.33 forty at a workout with his speed and conditioning trainer on Tuesday.

He also recorded an 11-foot standing broad jump and a vertical leap of 43 inches. These are insane numbers, but he'll have to repeat at the Yellow Jackets' pro day or at the Combine next week for them to be legit.

The man is gonna look good in pewter and red. :up:

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:cmad: :cmad: :cmad:

[Mister J]

Calvin Johnson reportedly ran a 4.33 forty at a workout with his speed and conditioning trainer on Tuesday.

He also recorded an 11-foot standing broad jump and a vertical leap of 43 inches. These are insane numbers, but he'll have to repeat at the Yellow Jackets' pro day or at the Combine next week for them to be legit.
I didn't think he was that fast. :wow:

I usually put much stock in the combine, but this guy is obviously a player.

[Immortalfire]

The man is gonna look good in pewter and red. :up:

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:cmad: :cmad: :cmad: Perhaps, but he'll panic and choke when they face the Falcons. And I don't mean he'll see intimidation, all he'll see is red & black. :cwink:

[Cmill216]

Perhaps, but he'll panic and choke when they face the Falcons. And I don't mean he'll see intimidation, all he'll see is red & black. :cwink:

Like DeAngelo Fall? Puh-lease. Fall couldn't cover Galloway the past two years, and if he's gotta keep up with CJ his wings are gonna get burnt off. :word:

[Kaleb]

Perhaps, but he'll panic and choke when they face the Falcons. And I don't mean he'll see intimidation, all he'll see is red & black. :cwink:

lol who is going to cover him deangelo hall lol

[Kaleb]

I didn't think he was that fast. :wow:

I usually put much stock in the combine, but this guy is obviously a player.

I was shocked when i saw those number, and I really believe he will get a faster time at the combine.

[Kaleb]

The Houston Chronicle's John McClain believes the Broncos have been trying to drum up false interest in Jake Plummer so they can get a draft pick instead of being forced to release him.

Ironic that the first to "break" the Plummer-to-Jacksonville rumors was ex-Broncos beat man Adam Schefter. The Bucs might have legit interest, but also gave Chris Simms a $10 million extension. It's very possible Houston is the only potential suitor with a clear want for Plummer, and may be able to wait for his release because there won't be a bidding war.
Source: Houston Chronicle

[Cmill216]

The Bucs might have legit interest, but also gave Chris Simms a $10 million extension.

If Tampa, for some reason, can't nab Garcia, then I might be happy with getting Plummer as an insurance policy. But that's a big 'might'.

[Kaleb]

plummer is damaged goods :o

[Kaleb]

TIKI TEES OFF ON TOM

If you're sick and tired of Tiki Barber, raise your hand.

We'll now try to type the remainder of this item with only five fingers.

On Tuesday, Tiki Barber used the press conference introducing his arrival at NBC to blame his former boss for his premature retirement from the NFL.

"Coach Coughlin is very hard-nosed, and I didn't get a lot of time off, couldn't sit down and rest myself, and so it was a constant grind -- a physical grind on me that started to take its toll," Barber said. "The grind took its toll on me and really forced me to start thinking about what I wanted to do next. And that's not a bad thing. That's a good thing, for me at least. Maybe not for the Giants, because they lose one of their great players, but for me, it is."

What an ass.

Look, Tiki. You played football. Football is a physical sport. Plenty of guys see their bodies get battered. Just ask Jerome Bettis next fall, when you're watching games with him at 30 Rock and you're using words like "bloviate" and he's thinking to himself, "Does that mean 'fart'?"

We do not feel sorry for you at all, Tiki. You chose to sign a contract extension when Coughlin was the coach. So you chose to stay in New York (and to continue to lay the foundation for your new career) instead of landing with a team that wasn't coached by Coughlin.

Here are more of Tiki's quotes from Tuesday:

"There'd be days where I couldn't move on Tuesday or Wednesday at practice, and he'd get mad at me for going half-speed. And I told him, 'Coach, I can't do it. I'm gonna be out here, I'm never gonna miss a practice, but I can't give you what you want all the time.' And he understood.

"We were in full pads for 17 weeks, and with the amount of injuries that we had, it just takes a toll on you. You just physically don't want to be out there when your body feels the way you do in full pads. And while it probably doesn't have a really detrimental effect on how you practice or how you play, it does on your mind. And if you lose your mind in this game, you lose a lot. And that's something that he has to realize. And I think he does [now]."

Just the other say (scroll down), we posted a blurb reporting that, throughout the 2006 season, Barber was pissing and moaning about Coughlin to the players in the locker room and to management.

And it's possible that Barber even tried to suggest to ownership that, if Coughlin were to get fired, Tiki might stick around.

Or maybe he didn't -- and maybe this is all just a way for Tiki to make himself seem even more sympathetic (instead of just pathetic), so that the New York fans won't blame him for leaving early . . . and so that he might be able to politick his way into the Hall of Fame with less than Cantonesque credentials.

source profootballtalk.com

[Fran]

Wow.. Tiki's behavior surprises me.

[Kaleb]

it doesnt suprise me, I mean when the titans beat them he aparently stormed into the titans lockeroom and blasted them for celebrating there victory too loudly

[kane9321]

leave norv turner alone ..he with us(49ers)

[Kaleb]

yeah please im getting sick and tired of teams taking our Defensive co ordinators and turning them into headcoahes (marv,jack,mike ) so please leave rex alone ok

[bored]

it doesnt suprise me, I mean when the titans beat them he aparently stormed into the titans lockeroom and blasted them for celebrating there victory too loudly


I posted that story. It was actually just a joke article from The Onion.

[Kaleb]

I posted that story. It was actually just a joke article from The Onion.

oh ****, it come to a time when I can tell whats real and whats not real :(

[Kaleb]

Buccaneers | Georgia Tech's Johnson expresses interest
Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:22:57 -0800

Katherine Smith, of the Tampa Tribune, reports Georgia Tech WR Calvin Johnson, who is widely regarded as one of the elite prospects in this year's NFL Draft, is attracted to the idea of playing for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who select either third or fourth overall this year. "I could definitely see myself fitting in down there," Johnson said of Tampa Bay. "It would be real nice."

[C-$]

You're right. Rumors have them trading up to 8 and taking Brady Quinn.

:whatever:

[Cmill216]

Buccaneers | Georgia Tech's Johnson expresses interest
Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:22:57 -0800

Katherine Smith, of the Tampa Tribune, reports Georgia Tech WR Calvin Johnson, who is widely regarded as one of the elite prospects in this year's NFL Draft, is attracted to the idea of playing for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who select either third or fourth overall this year. "I could definitely see myself fitting in down there," Johnson said of Tampa Bay. "It would be real nice."

Hells yeah.

[Kaleb]

[/CODE]Hells yeah. you like it when I post stuff like that , dont you

[Cmill216]

you like it when I post stuff like that, dont you

:huh:

Okay, that was creepy.

[Fran]

You love it when I post those articles, cmill... :)

[Jerry]

That was a fake article about Tiki storming into the Titans lockeroom. I think from the Onion.

[Kaleb]

yeah , i remember reading it, but I forgot it was from the onion

[StorminNorman]

The Perfect Candidate for San Diego? Pete Carrol.

The Perfect Pro Job for Pete Carrol? San Diego.

Will it happen, probably not. But here is hopin :up:

[Mister J]

The Perfect Candidate for San Diego? Pete Carrol.

The Perfect Pro Job for Pete Carrol? San Diego.

Will it happen, probably not. But here is hopin :up:

[Tangled Web] Why would Cheaty Petey leave? He doesn't have to worry about a salary cap at U$C. [/Tangled Web]

[StorminNorman]

[Tangled Web] Why would Cheaty Petey leave? He doesn't have to worry about a salary cap at U$C. [/Tangled Web]

That is...too perfect... :wow:




:woot: :up:

[Jerry]

yeah , i remember reading it, but I forgot it was from the onion


At first I thought it was real too. I don't know, Tiki just confuses me sometimes. Goddamn you Tiki. But he may as well throw Coughlin under the bus one final time, if not for any other reason for old times sake.

[Jerry]

Breaking news from Chicago: The Bears have just designated Lance Briggs as their franchise player. PUT IT ON THE BOOOARRRD...YESSSS!!

[Kaleb]

Mel Kipers first round mock draft

Oak: JaMarcus Russell QB (LSU)
Det: Joe Thomas OT (Wisconsin)
Cle: Adrian Peterson RB (Oklahoma)
TB: Calvin Johnson WR (Georgia Tech)
Ari: Gaines Adams DE (Clemson)
Wsh: Jamaal Anderson DE (Arkansas)
Min: Ted Ginn Jr. WR (Ohio State)
Hou: Levi Brown OT (Penn State)
Mia: Brady Quinn QB (Notre Dame)
Atl: LaRon Landry S (LSU)
SF: Alan Branch DT (Michigan)
Buf: Amobio Okoye DT (Louisville)
Stl: Charles Johnson DE (Georgia)
Car: Dwayne Bowe WR (LSU)
Pit: Jarvis Moss DE (Florida)
GB: Marshawn Lynch RB (California)
Jac: Sidney Rice WR (South Carolina)
Cin: Leon Hall CB (Michigan)
Ten: Dwanye Jarrett WR (USC)
NYG: Lawrence Timmions LB (Florida State)
Den: Adam Carriker DE (Nebraska)
Dal: Reggie Nelson S (Florida)
KC: Aaron Ross CB (Texas)
NE from Sea: Daymeion Hughes CB (California)
NYJ: Robert Meachen WR (Tennessee)
Phi: Tim Crowder DE (Texas)
NO: Darrelle Revis CB (Pittsburgh)
NE: Anthony Gonzalez WR (Ohio State)
Bal: Anthony Spencer DE (Purdue)
SD: Patrick Willis LB (Ole Miss)
Chi: Arron Sears OL (Tennessee)
Ind: Justin Harrell DT (Tennessee)

[Kaleb]

According to Michael Smith of Espn Rex Ryan told the Chargers exactly what they wanted to hear. Namely blitzing on every down. Says don't be surprised if he's hired by Tue or Wed.

[bored]

Mel Kipers first round mock draft

Oak: JaMarcus Russell QB (LSU)
Det: Joe Thomas OT (Wisconsin)
Cle: Adrian Peterson RB (Oklahoma)
TB: Calvin Johnson WR (Georgia Tech)
Ari: Gaines Adams DE (Clemson)
Wsh: Jamaal Anderson DE (Arkansas)
Min: Ted Ginn Jr. WR (Ohio State)
Hou: Levi Brown OT (Penn State)
Mia: Brady Quinn QB (Notre Dame)
Atl: LaRon Landry S (LSU)
SF: Alan Branch DT (Michigan)
Buf: Amobio Okoye DT (Louisville)
Stl: Charles Johnson DE (Georgia)
Car: Dwayne Bowe WR (LSU)
Pit: Jarvis Moss DE (Florida)
GB: Marshawn Lynch RB (California)
Jac: Sidney Rice WR (South Carolina)
Cin: Leon Hall CB (Michigan)
Ten: Dwanye Jarrett WR (USC)
NYG: Lawrence Timmions LB (Florida State)
Den: Adam Carriker DE (Nebraska)
Dal: Reggie Nelson S (Florida)
KC: Aaron Ross CB (Texas)
NE from Sea: Daymeion Hughes CB (California)
NYJ: Robert Meachen WR (Tennessee)
Phi: Tim Crowder DE (Texas)
NO: Darrelle Revis CB (Pittsburgh)
NE: Anthony Gonzalez WR (Ohio State)
Bal: Anthony Spencer DE (Purdue)
SD: Patrick Willis LB (Ole Miss)
Chi: Arron Sears OL (Tennessee)
Ind: Justin Harrell DT (Tennessee)


Not to knock Kiper, since he's good at what he does generally, but KC really needs a young O-lineman, linebacker, or wide-out before they look for another CB. Ty Law and Pat Surtain still have a few quality years left each, and Benny Sapp is going to be brutal if he ever gets to start, so they can wait a bit on drafting a 1st round caliber CB.

[StorminNorman]

Not to knock Kiper, since he's good at what he does generally, but KC really needs a young O-lineman, linebacker, or wide-out before they look for another CB. Ty Law and Pat Surtain still have a few quality years left each, and Benny Sapp is going to be brutal if he ever gets to start, so they can wait a bit on drafting a 1st round caliber CB.

Kiper is very good at scouting talent, he is horrible at Draft projections.

[Mister J]

I'd love it if Brady Quinn dropped to #9, but I'm having a hard time seeing why Cleveland would stick with Charlie Frye there.

[Immortalfire]

Fred Gibson signs with Falcons! http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/2007/02/16/0217gibson.html
Oh yeah :wow:

[Kaleb]

thats it falcons way to solve your wide receiver problems by signing a guy that never did a single thing on two other nfl teams.

[Fran]

I like Kiper's Rams pick. We need to improve the D first and foremost.

[Kaleb]

lol the rams always need to improve the D.

[Fran]

LOL [/sarcasm]

That's kind of a generic comment, because in reality, EVERY team can always improve their D.

[Cmill216]

I'd love it if Brady Quinn dropped to #9, but I'm having a hard time seeing why Cleveland would stick with Charlie Frye there.

Agreed, though there are two ways to look at it. They could get Quinn and nab their franchise QB. Or they grab their franchise back in Peterson and try to sign a solid veteran QB like Brunell in free agency.

[Kaleb]

Agreed, though there are two ways to look at it. They could get Quinn and nab their franchise QB. Or they grab their franchise back in Peterson and try to sign a solid veteran QB like Brunell in free agency.
I think they will take take a qb in the second round ( Im thinking Troy Smith , who is from cleveland), but they also have so many problems now at DB.

[Mister J]

I think Brunell is done and I wouldn't even talk to Troy Smith until the second day. The first option makes sense though. Frye might pan out to be serviceable and Peterson should eventually be good enough to take enough pressure off Frye so he can get the ball to Edwards and Winslow.

[Kaleb]

I think fry is a servicable qb, I say give him another yr.

[Kaleb]

here is another mock draft on a site I regulary visit

FYI, 3/4 picks are unsettled, as are the 27-29, 31/32 selections. Seattle's 24th pick is New England's via Branch trade.

1. Oakland - QB Jamarcus Russell, LSU

You know what they say: If you don't have a franchise QB, you better not pass on a potential one. Russell's physical attributes are through the roof, with an enormous frame(6'6" 260) and an arm that will undoubtedly be the strongest in the NFL the minute he gets drafted. He's made gradual strides every year as a starter at LSU, and he really showed off his polish late in his senior year. His biggest knock has been his decision making, however, and he's always been prone to making supremely boneheaded plays. The reward is worth the risk, though.

2. Detroit - QB Brady Quinn, Notre Dame

Detroit is a major seller with this pick, but if the Lions stand pat, the Lions have to take Oakland's rout and go with Quinn. People have inexplicably soured on him recently, but most of it is unjustified. The fact is, ND never had very much talent to begin with, and Quinn has done a teriffic job in his situation. Physically, he's prototypical: 6'4", 225, can wing it to any spot on the field, and he's hardly a statue in the pocket. He's done a tremendous job of limiting his mistakes, as he's a much more careful passer than Russell. The tutelage of Charlie Weis can't hurt his stock either, as he's helped him become a very cerebral QB. Detroit may be set at QB for now, but their future definitely needs to be addressed.

*3. Cleveland - DT Alan Branch, Michigan

In what was supposed to be a year of improvement in Cleveland, Crennel and his staff were struck hard by injuries and regression to their players. The offense was in shambles, and the defense wasn't much better. There were some bright spots, however, including last years first round pick, LB/DE Kamerion Wimbley, who addressed a major pass rushing need(11 sacks) in Crennel's evolving 3-4. Now, it's time to shore up their front 3, and Branch is a huge step forward - figuratively and literally. At 6'6" 330, he's a mammoth space eater in the middle, and he has extensive experience playing outside in the 3-4 at Michigan as well. Branch is also amazingly quick for a man his size, having also played running back on his high school team.

*4. Tampa Bay - WR Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech

Without question, CJ is the #1 talent in the entire draft. He's 6'5", 235 and possesses unfair speed and leaping ability for a man his size. And unlike most WR prospects, he isn't prone to mental lapses or dropped balls. He's extremely polished for a college player, which is a must for the Bucs, since they need someone who will make an immediate impact. Joey Galloway has resurrected his career on one side of the field, but former 1st rounder Michael Clayton has been a total bust, and there aren't any other viable receiving options on the team. A DE like Gaines Adams or Jamaal Andersonc could also be an option for the Bucs here, with Simeon Rice on the outs and no other pass rushers to speak of.

5. Arizona - OT Joe Thomas, Wisconsin

Probably the biggest slam dunk of the draft, the Cardinals will be furiously humping Thomas' leg if falls to them here. The Cards offensive line woes have been well documented since the birth of Christ, and Thomas is a step in the right direction. He has been dominating Big Ten opposition for the past two years, and he's equally adept at blocking the run and pass. Like Tampa Bay, expect the Cardinals to go after a pass rusher if their guy doesn't fall to them.

6. Washington - DE Jamaal Anderson, Arkansas

Andre Carter performed well in very little spurts, but Phillip Daniels has been awful on the other side of the Dline for the Redskins this past year. The Redskins demise this season was a bit surprising, and bringing a premier pass rusher like Anderson is a must to shore things up. At 6'6" 280, Anderson has outstanding size and athleticism to compliment his eye-popping production in the SEC this season(65 tkl, 20 tfl, 14 sacks).

7. Minnesota - DE Gaines Adams, Clemson

You've heard about it by now: Former 1st rounde DE Kenechi Udeze, despite starting every game, failed to record a single sack for the Vikings this past season. Into the dryer with him. And while the Vikings do have another first rounder in Erasmus James on the other side, that shouldn't deter them from trying to solidify their pass rush. They stopped the run at a historical clip this season, but they were awful against the pass - and their lack of pressure had a lot to do with it. Adams has been brilliant for Clemson, but he doesn't quite have the elite size(6'5" 260) that would have assured him of top 5 status. The Vikings will reap the benefits with him.

8. Houston - RB Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma

Let's hope Houston is smart enough to not pass on a great running back this time. Jabs aside, Peterson is a perfect fit for Kubiak's zone blocking scheme, and had he not been injured this past season, landing him here would have been once thought to be a pipe dream. He's got all the tools you look for in an elite RB, and you know he's ready having dominated the college ranks since his freshman year.

9. Miami - DT Amobi Okoye, Louisville

Miami could use a wholesale overhaul on defense, but trying to improve the interior of their defensive front would be a nice start. The Dolphins current batch of DTs have a combined age of about 1,000 and haven't played very well, so let's kill two birds with one stone and draft the outstanding Okoye, who also doubles as the drafts youngest player at the age of 20. He didn't leave school early, either - he's just that smart. On top of his excellence outside of football, he also displays plenty of athleticism and he absolutely dominated for Louisville this season - registering 15 TFLs and 8 sacks. A very underrated prospect.

10. Atlanta - S Laron Landry, LSU

The Falcons tried resolving their secondary woes by bringing in Chris Crocker and Lawyer Milloy last offseason, but that clearly didn't answer any of their problems. They still looked slow defending the pass, and they still lacked a presence in the middle of the field. Enter Landry, who is arguably the best safety prospect we've seen since Sean Taylor. A 4-year starter for the Tigers with a sparkling resume, few players can step in and make as big an impact as he can on defense. Unlike most safeties, he isn't just a headhunter, flashing plenty of range.

11. San Francisco - CB Leon Hall, Michigan

The 49ers flirt with the idea of picking a receiver like Dwayne Jarrett here, but Mike Nolan plays it smart and sticks to his guns on defense. The 49ers made significant strides this season, flirting with a division title but ultimately falling short. However, they're still in the shallow end of the talent pool, and they'd like to bring in instant impact players who can help them win right away. Leon Hall fits the bill. Arguably the nations premier corner this past season, Hall isn't the best athlete to ever play the position, but he's as technical as they come and doesn't shy away from defending the run.

12. Buffalo - LB Patrick Willis, Ole Miss

On the surface, Buffalo's linebacking corps doesn't seem to be a need position. But with London Fletcher on the way out, and Takeo Spikes not being the player he once was, a jolt of energy is needed with this group. Some think it's too high to take a linebacker here, especially a middle 'backer. To heck with that. Willis combines ideal measurables(6'2", 240, 4.6) with dominating production on the football field, having won the Butkus Trophy his senior year. He excels in both run support and dropping back into coverage, gives you plenty of position versatility, and he's the sort of kid who has a good head on his shoulders and you never have to worry about.
more to come

[Kaleb]

13. St Louis - WR Ted Ginn, Ohio State

Surprise. The Rams, as usual, are in desperate need of defensive help. However, at this stage of the first round, the most valued defenders are already taken, and the best position available - linebacker - can be addressed in the next round thanks to a girth of depth. So the Rams get creative and pick Ted Ginn, whom some would argue is the drafts mosts explosive player. At 6' 180, he's built exactly like current Rams greats Ike Bruce and Torry Holt, and he offers even more speed. Bruce performed valiantly this season, but he's on his last legs and must be replace. Even the great Torry Holt is on the wrong side of 30 as well. Grooming an impact replacement is a must, and noone offers more potential then Ginn. He also gives them a much needed return threat to boot.

14. Carolina - OT Levi Brown, Penn State

Carolina would love to land Patrick Willis or a QB here, but the former is taken and the latter is unlikely to come to fruition. As such, they will focus on their shoddy offensive line and draft Brown, a mammoth tackle whose been a standout for the Nittany Lions. With Jordan Gross and Brown, the Panthers would have two very solid bookends to format their offense around. Carolina is a well-run football team, so don't expect them to stray too far from the Oline or Dline when their pick comes up.

15. Pittsburgh - CB Darrelle Revis, Pittsburgh

The Steelers just have to walk out to their own backyard to find their draft pick. A stand out for the hometown Panthers the past three seasons, Revis is an electric athelete whom the Steelers could really use. Ike Taylor was a surprising dud this season, and there was noone else to write home about at cornerback. A solid 6'0 200 lbs, Revis can more than hold his own against bigger wide receivers, and he can run stride for stride with the quicker ones too. He could also be a major contributor as a returnman, which will come in handy once Santonio Holmes becomes a staple in the lineup.

16. Green Bay - DE Quentin Moses, Georgia

Despite finishing 8-8, you'd be hardpressed to find many teams with less talent than the Packers. They could use an upgrade at any number of positions, but they strike gold here and pick the best player available in Moses. Projected to be a top five selection in the preseason, Moses had an underwhelming senior campaign and was vastly outplayed by teammate Charles Johnson this season - another top DE prospect. Regardless, he is sure to remind teams of his talent at the combine and it's unlikely that he'll even make it this far for Green Bay. With KGB becoming a non-factor at this stage in his career, the Packers could certainly use a pass-rushing talent like Moses to compliment the stout Aaron Kampman. At 6'5" 260, his lanky frame has drawn him comparisons to Jason Taylor.

17. Jacksonville - LB Paul Posluszny, Penn State

Jacksonville is a team in a tight spot. There's a lot of WR talent on the board, but this team absolutely cannot afford to go down that route again. Instead, they turn to linebacker - where Mike Peterson is aging and suddenly injury-prone, and there's very little to get excited about on the outside. Posluszny is a perfect fit here, and there will be very little
pressure on him playing on a mostly stout defense.

18. Cincinatti - DT Demarcus Tyler, NC State

Tyler is another one of those physical, athletic freaks NC State has decided to unleash upon the NFL. The Bengals biggest problems are on the interior, and Tyler is the sort of pure run-stopper built to eradicate that. He won't be racking up 10 sacks a season any time soon, but he is a very good penetrator whose pressure can make life easier for their back seven.

19. Tennessee - WR Dwayne Jarrett, USC

Tennessee could really, really use some defensive help, but getting Vince Young a quality target on the outside is also a must. Jarrett may be taken long before their pick comes up, but here's to saying his poor timed speed has him tumbling down the charts a little bit. The Mike Williams comparison will linger over the 6'5, 220 pounder, but I believe he'll take his job much more seriously and become the sort of Plaxico-like receiver that VY can lean upon(with all the drops).

20. NY Giants - LB Lawrence Timmons, Florida State

Lavar Arrington has been a total bust for the Giants, and outside of Antonio Pierce, the same can be said for every other linebacker the Giants have on their roster. Timmons is one of my favorite prospects in this draft, emerging from Ernie Sims shadow and making a first-round name for himself as well. He put up a gaudy 19 TFL from his outside spot, and the Giants are desperate for that sort of impact on the edge. He's fast, he covers a lot of space, and he's a sure tackler.

21. Denver - RB Marshawn Lynch, Cal

This would be a dream situation for the Broncos, considering Lynch's talent suggests he'll be taken earlier. Denver has always been known as a running back factory - seemingly churning out 1000 yard backs with ease and no worries. Their arrogance and unwillingness to find a steady option in the backfield, though, finally caught up with them this past season and neither Tatum or Mike Bell distinguished themselves as a quality starter. Lynch is the total package - he's got 4.4 speed, and a build similar to that of Lawrence Maroney. Unlike Maroney, Lynch is an outstanding receiver out of the backfield - a necessary trait for the screen-happy Shanahan.

22. Dallas - S Michael Griffin, Texas

The Cowboys stay in Big 12 country and select one of most impressive Longhorns DBs in recent memory. Watching Dallas down the stretch, it's no secret that their pass defense was their achilles heel. Their FS spot was a revolving door all year, and Roy Williams tailed off considerably. The result was a lot of broken plays and easy deep balls down the middle for the opposition. Griffin can eradicate this with his tremendous speed and agility. He's the sort of rangy centerfielder that Dallas desperately needs in their defensive backfield, and he's also an outstanding tackler - having racked up an astonishing 250 tackles his past 2 seasons in Austin.

23. Kansas City - WR Dwayne Bowe, LSU

Through the good times and the bad for KC, there's always been one constant - their receivers have always been subpar. Even when Kennison was hauling in 1000 yards a season, there still wasn't a single threat to be afraid of on the outside. Dwayne Bowe is a big(6'3", 220), muscular receiver in the Terrell Owens mold. He doesn't have the speed to break the long one, but few are as sure-handed or reliable as he is. And any coach can appreciate his excellent blocking skills, which will come in handy in their all-LJ/all-the-time offense.

24. New England - OT Joe Staley, Central Michigan

If there's one thing we know about the Patriots, it's that they go about their business in their own unique way, and they are very particular about who they pick. They're also very cap-conscious, which means you can forget about them spending 8 million or so dollars on a rookie linebacker or wide receiver here. So, they attack the offensive line again after the
successful Logan Mankins experiment, and draft another midmajor stud in Joe Staley. Unlike most offensive linemen, Staley is one hell of an athlete. At 300 lbs, this fella runs a legitimate sub 4.8-40. You think it may not matter much, but opponents will have a lot of trouble beating the nimble Staley off the edge. If there has been one spot on New England's
Oline, it's been RT, where they had a revolving door of inepereince with Kaczur and O'Callaghan. The Patriots do their own thing and solidify their offensive line with this small school stud.
continued....

[Kaleb]

25. NY Jets - CB Marcus McCauley, Fresno State

Two words: Andre Dyson. He is awful, and there's no doubt that finding another corner is a must. They have two decent ones in Barrett in Justin Miller, but their consistency is still very spotty. McCauley, based on his physical tools alone, looks like a can't-miss prospect: 6'1", 205 with sub 4.4 speed. However, his senior season left a lot to be desired, and he was even benched on Senior Night. The talent is there, though, and the Jets will benefit greatly if he's able to tap into it. It's a risk worth taking at this spot.

26. Philadelphia - S Reggie Nelson, Florida

Jackpot. Philly had a lot of problems covering the middle of the field this season, with both Lewis and Considine taking shifts at sucking it up. Brian Dawkins could only be in so many places once, and he aint no spring chicken either. Reggie Nelson would be a good fit in Philly, where he could be brought along slowly and avoid running into a rookie wall. His talent speaks for itself: He was the star defender of Florida's national title team, and few safeties show the range that he does. I'd like to call him a taller, lesser-tackler than Ed Reed.

27. New Orleans - LB Buster Davis, Florida State

New Orleans will obviously be thinking defense in this draft, and they could use some young talent at each level of defense. Looking for a CB and getting Fred Thomas off the field ASAP will probably be priority #1, but I think the Saints will play it safe and go with the sure thing in Buster Davis. You'll be immediately reminded of London Fletcher when you see the short, stubby and tenacious linebacker play. He's great in the box and he might be the surest tackler in the draft, but his coverage game needs a lot of work. Fujita and Shanle have been fine on the outside, but Simoneau shouldn't be starting so Buster will take care of that.

28. New England - S Eric Weddle, Utah

Rodney Harrison is seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, and there is just a bunch of loose change running around at safety for New England right now. Eric Weddle will come as a surprise to some, but I think he is a classic New England pick. His physical attributes aren't overwhelming, but they're on par with all of the other available prospects, and you simply can't ignore the game-changing presence he's provided for the Utes. He also has vast experience at cornerback, which is another position the Patriots could use some help at. Here's to saying Weddle will become a quick fan favorite - whereever he's drafted.

29. Baltimore - OG Justin Blalock, Texas

The Ravens have glaring holes on the right side of their line, where Pashos and Vincent have been less than stellar. On talent alone, Blalock is probably a top 20 pick. He's been a marvelous player for Texas, starting all four years and dominating his opponent regularly. He's played a lot of RT for the 'Horns, which is a big plus, but he'll probably be a RG in the pros. He's mobile, he can pull, and bringing in some solid Olinemen like him is the first step in getting the Ravens offense out of the stone age.

30. San Diego - WR Sidney Rice, South Carolina

The Chargers have few holes, but a gamebreaking WR is something that's been clearly missing for a long time. They have a lot of cute projects like Vincent Jackson and Malcolm Floyd, but bringing in a legitimate #1 wide out to compliment Gates is a must. A lot of people are higher on Rice, but I think this is right around where he should go. He has all the tools to
eventually be a regular 1,000 yard receiver in this league, but I didn't see very much I liked out of him in his sophmore season. Regardless, he's 6'4" target with 4.4 speed and he always uses his hands to catch the ball. If he can work on getting stronger and more focused, he'll be a huge steal here.

31. Indianapolis - WR Robert Meachem, Tennessee

Let the rich get richer, shall we? Indy has needs on defense, but their postseason run has shown that little things like a healthy Bob Sanders can make a huge difference for the D as a whole. They could definitely use some bulk at linebacker, but that can wait until the next round. With all that said, they go with the best player available(at least in my book) in
Meachem. Meachem had a jaw-dropping junior year for the Vols, racking up 1300 yards and 11 TDs while averaging over 18 YPC. That's right, 18. You've got to love his size(6'3" 210) and speed(4.45) combination too. Harrison can't play forever and there's virtually no depth after you get past him and Wayne. Meachem could be groomed for a year or two and eventually give Manning a great #2 option once Marv moves on.

32. Chicago - DE Fe'esago Fepulea'i, Samoa

Chicago's defense isn't as full-proof as you might think. They tended to be pretty spotty against the run at times and even looked a tad soft up front. On the surface, DE doesn't appear to be a huge need with Ogunleye, Brown and Anderson platooning, but you'd be hardpressed to find a more raw, tantilizing prospect than Fe'esago Fepulea'i here. Fefe is tragically overlooked right now, but you'll know his name soon enough. At 6'4" 295 and apparent 4.5 speed, his potential is through the roof. Granted, he has little experience outside of Japanese semi-pro leagues, but a team in Chicago's position can afford to roll the dice. He may even project to be an inside compliment to Tommie Harris, who could sorely use some relief from the constant double teams he faces.


courtesy of fantasysharks.com

[Mister J]

I don't get how Ginn is constantly predicted to go higher than Jarrett. Sure, he's fast as all hell, but I don't think of him as much of a receiver. He doesn't really seem to have any feel for route running or playing off defenders and his hands are average. For my money, his teammate, Anthony Gonzales, makes a better prospect.

[bored]

He does realize that he's got Indi and Chicago flipped around, right?

[Kaleb]

i think must have been done before the superbowl

[Showtime]

Those are some really solid projects for the Pats. I would like those two picks.

[Fran]

I would LOVE if St. Louis got Ginn Jr.

[Showtime]

I would LOVE if St. Louis got Ginn Jr.

That would be an incredible addition for the Rams. That would definately give them some speed up top.

[StorminNorman]

I would LOVE if St. Louis got Ginn Jr.

Ginn will be a bust, heed my warning.

[Fran]

Ginn will be a bust, heed my warning.

I will smash your face through a car windshield. Then I'll take your mother Dorothy Norman out for a nice seafood dinner, and NEVER CALL HER AGAIN! :cmad:

[Showtime]

Ha Ha. You had me at seafood dinner.

[C-$]

The Panthers better draft either Laundry or Nelson in the first round.

[Jerry]

I will smash your face through a car windshield. Then I'll take your mother Dorothy Norman out for a nice seafood dinner, and NEVER CALL HER AGAIN! :cmad:

Hey! Lets leave the mothers out of this. Its not necessary.

[Fran]

Hey! Lets leave the mothers out of this. Its not necessary.

I'll take your word for it, Number Two.

[Jerry]

Actually that was Burgandy trying to calm him down.

[Fran]

I know :csad: Go with it! :cmad:

[Immortalfire]

The Rams will get Ginn and they will prove you wrong.

Edited for clarity.

[Fran]

The Rams need some special teams help, and I think Ginn could be quite an addition.

[Showtime]

What the Rams need are these uniforms...

Thanks to Bucco B of www.sportslogos.net for the concept.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j169/pcola_playa82/STLrams.png

[CConn]

They're pretty nice.

Except for the Alts. Ew.

[Showtime]

Yeah those alt's are a little French's Mustard, but I dig the rest.

[CConn]

Has this Bucco B guy done any more redesigns besides that?

[StorminNorman]

The Rams need some special teams help, and I think Ginn could be quite an addition.

You don't spend a first round pick on a guy who can contribute with Special Teams. :cmad:

[StorminNorman]

I dont see the problems in the Rams current Gold gold

[Showtime]

Has this Bucco B guy done any more redesigns besides that?

He did a total redesign of many of the NFL teams, he does a really good job. Looking for any team in particular. I didn't find the Patriots in his arsenal.

[Showtime]

I dont see the problems in the Rams current Gold gold

They are ok. I was always partial to the old school look.

[Showtime]

Chargers New Head Coach = Norv Turner

[Erundur]

Chargers New Head Coach = Norv Turner

are you serious? :huh:

You fire a coach who goes 14-2 to a coach whose last stint was I believe 4-12.:trans:

[Fran]

It wasn't announced, ESPN.com doesn't have anything.

[Showtime]

Trust me, it's a done deal.

[Fran]

I believe they are interviewing Jim Mora next.

[Kaleb]

he is only going back for a second interview, thats all.

[Showtime]

Well it appears that Chargers have already talked figures with Turner and he has already notified Ted Cottrell to run the defense.

I don't want to sound like I have some kind of inside information, this was all said on WEEI radio in Boston. I will advise their source when the next segment cuts.

[Showtime]

It's FOX SPORTS that is reporting Norv Turner as the new coach according to WEEI Radio Boston.

[Fran]

Hmm... I'll check this out.

[Kaleb]

This is great news for me, as it means that Rex Ryan stays in Baltimore

[Fran]

Turner could be the man in San Diego
Jay Glazer / FOXSports.com
Posted: 7 hours ago

The San Diego Chargers are leaning toward a new head coach and it's the man everyone thought was going to be head coach of Dallas.

FOXSports.com has learned that the Chargers are talking to Norv Turner as if they are looking to hire him as their head coach. Sources contend that Turner is leaning toward hiring Ted Cottrell, a long-time defensive NFL coach, to run the Chargers defense. Cottrell worked in the league office this past season but is one of the best minds in the league in running a 3-4 scheme.

Oddly, earlier in the day based off of different information, Rex Ryan appeared to be the leading candidate to get the job. What or if anything happened to change that remains to be seen.

Turner was long assumed to be the man the Jones boys hired to replace Bill Parcells as head coach, but the Cowboys sent Turner back to the Bay without a new job or a new title. That title and job may now come three weeks later in the best city in America to "have to" work in — sunny San Diego.

General Manager A.J. Smith had talks with Turner late this evening, talks that sounded as if Turner was the team's choice. In fact, they even talked contract figures.

Turner was the Chargers offensive coordinator during LaDainian Tomlinson's rookie year and now will be in charge of an offense that needs to find even more ways for Tomlinson to work his magic.

Turner was extremely close to landing the Cowboys gig that eventually went to Wade Phillips, the man Cottrell may replace in San Diego now. When contacted, Turner's current boss Mike Nolan said he had not "heard a thing" from Turner but was hoping to if in fact Turner was their choice.

Calls to Smith and Turner were not returned.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6485122

[Jerry]

Bears will allow Ron Rivera's contract to expire, Bears linebacker coach Bob Babich to take his place as Def. Coordinator.

[Mee]

I dunno. It's not like Turner really has to build a team in San Diego. (like he did in Washington and Oakland) So if they get a good Defensive Coordinator then they may be ok.

[Kaleb]

hey what the hell happend to my prevous reply about the niners :confused:

[Mee]

hey what the hell happend to my prevous reply about the niners :confused:
I think we ended up in the 2006 thread.

I know I did. :huh: :woot: :cmad:

[StorminNorman]

Good Job Chargers - you got rid of a good coach that can't win in the playoffs for a mediocre one that can't win in the playoffs.

:dry:

[Immortalfire]

Good Job Chargers - you got rid of a good coach that can't win in the playoffs for a mediocre one that can't win in the playoffs.

:dry: Word

[Kaleb]

The Denver Post included an interesting trade scenario Sunday: Jake Plummer, Tatum Bell, and a high draft pick for Houston's No. 8 pick in the draft.

Denver's beat writer stops short of saying the deal has been discussed, but oddly leads his article with the scenario. The Broncos manipulate the media and trade market as well as anyone, so this could be a way to get the offers rolling for Bell.

[Mister J]

Apparently, the Chargers named Ted Cottrell as their defensive coordinator. Good move. Cottrell is noted for his defense.

Out of the blue (at least to me), the Bears announced that their def. coordinator, Ron Rivera (who was in the running for a couple of head coaching positions, as well as the DC position with San Diego) will not be coming back. So now this guy is out of a job. I imagine it has to do with money, but still ... :huh:

[Kaleb]

Norv Turner's Coaching Record

The Chargers are giving Norv Turner his third crack at being an NFL head coach. He's 58-82-1 with one playoff appearance in nine seasons leading an NFL team.

Year Team Record Playoffs
1994 WAS 3-13 None
1995 WAS 6-10 None
1996 WAS 9-7 None
1997 WAS 8-8-1 None
1998 WAS 6-10 None
1999 WAS 10-6 1-1
2000 WAS 7-6 None
2004 OAK 5-11 None
2005 OAK 4-12 None



good move chargers lol

[Mister J]

Jesus God.

Ron Rivera, after being notified that he would not be returning as Bears Defensive Coordinator, will be taking over as the new Linebackers Coach of the Chargers. :huh:

What the hell is going on out here?!?!

[CConn]

He did a total redesign of many of the NFL teams, he does a really good job. Looking for any team in particular. I didn't find the Patriots in his arsenal.
I kinda like his Eagles redesigns...

http://img11.imagepile.net/img11/176PHLeagles.png

[Showtime]

I kinda like his Eagles redesigns...

http://img11.imagepile.net/img11/176PHLeagles.png

Very cool indeed, I like the addition of the vintage 3rd jersey, that is a nice touch. I like the elmination of black in the uniforms.

Did you sign up over there?

[LostSon88]

Norv Turner....consider yourself BLACKLISTED by the Faithful.

:cmad:

[Fran]

Ron Rivera goes from Bears D Coordinator... to Chargers Linebacker Coach :huh: The mind reels.

[CConn]

Very cool indeed, I like the addition of the vintage 3rd jersey, that is a nice touch. I like the elmination of black in the uniforms.I like how the silver elements give it just a bit of flair. The Eagles jerseys have always seemed a bit too plain to me (although, I've started liking them a lot more since they started indenting the numbers). And it would be great to see the classic green back again.
Did you sign up over there?Yeah, I've been starring at those boards for like four hours. I had always known of the site, but I had no idea they do redesigns. :up:

[Showtime]

I like how the silver elements give it just a bit of flair. The Eagles jerseys have always seemed a bit too plain to me (although, I've started liking them a lot more since they started indenting the numbers). And it would be great to see the classic green back again.
Yeah, I've been starring at those boards for like four hours. I had always known of the site, but I had no idea they do redesigns. :up:

They are very tasteful, I would dare to call them professional looking. I would love to see a total redesign using the classic green. I signed up for the site years ago, I don't post much at all, but I love to see the designs and get news on logo and uniform changes. It's some weird addiction.

[Showtime]

Ron Rivera goes from Bears D Coordinator... to Chargers Linebacker Coach :huh: The mind reels.

Very strange indeed.

[ScottyBBadd]

The Denver Post included an interesting trade scenario Sunday: Jake Plummer, Tatum Bell, and a high draft pick for Houston's No. 8 pick in the draft.

Denver's beat writer stops short of saying the deal has been discussed, but oddly leads his article with the scenario. The Broncos manipulate the media and trade market as well as anyone, so this could be a way to get the offers rolling for Bell.

It has to be drumming up intrest in two players that Denver may have to cut. Houston is not gonna give the 8th pick for that.

[Cmill216]

Good Job Chargers - you got rid of a good coach that can't win in the playoffs for a mediocre one that can't get to the playoffs.

Edited for accuracy.

[Cmill216]

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/entertainment/16735580.htm

Tom Brady...you're my mutha****in' hero. :up:

[Kaleb]

It has to be drumming up intrest in two players that Denver may have to cut. Houston is not gonna give the 8th pick for that.

If Cassell ( the former gm of the texans ) was still in charge you can bet he would have definatly pulled that trigger, after all this was the same guy who chose not to draft Reggie Bush :o

[Immortalfire]

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/entertainment/16735580.htm

Tom Brady...you're my mutha****in' hero. :up:

:eek:

[Showtime]

That has been swirling around Boston already for about 3 days? Should I have posted it then?

[Kaleb]

yes yes yes

[Kaleb]

Report: Cops after Pacman again

Las Vegas police are reportedly looking to talk to Pacman Jones about a triple shooting at the Minxx Gentlemen's Club.

An "NFL source" told the Vegas Review-Journal that Jones was with Nelly and Jermaine Dupri at the club when the shooting occurred. According to one person, the group incited an argument after "large amounts" of cash were thrown into the crowd. Jones hasn't been charged with a crime. Feb. 20 - 8:40 am et
Source: Las Vegas Review-Journal


wakka wakka wakka RUN HOMIE

[Immortalfire]

Oh noes not Pacman Jones :dry:

[Cmill216]

Pacman's legal troubles are going to follow him like ghosts for the rest of his life.

[Fran]

LOL @ Adam Jones.

[Showtime]

Nevermind Rhodes formerly of the Colts getting arrested on drinking and driving charges.

[Kaleb]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imFAR8ypw2c


Lol Larry Johnson mocking Herm Edwards . :D

[bored]

Report: Cops after Pacman again

Las Vegas police are reportedly looking to talk to Pacman Jones about a triple shooting at the Minxx Gentlemen's Club.

An "NFL source" told the Vegas Review-Journal that Jones was with Nelly and Jermaine Dupri at the club when the shooting occurred. According to one person, the group incited an argument after "large amounts" of cash were thrown into the crowd. Jones hasn't been charged with a crime. Feb. 20 - 8:40 am et
Source: Las Vegas Review-Journal


wakka wakka wakka RUN HOMIE


Shut up. Never post news like that again. Adam Jones will lead his defense team to a "not guilty" ruling and prove you all wrong.

[bored]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imFAR8ypw2c


Lol Larry Johnson mocking Herm Edwards . :D


It's funny, because LJ used to have such a problem with not getting along with Vermeil, who refused to kiss his ass, then Herm came along and did just that, and he was criticizing him by the end of the season for messing up the offense.

[Fran]

If some people could just look further down the page :csad:

[LostSon88]

F.U norv turner..you treacherous bastard! You left my niners..i want the chargers to lose every game they play

Well...I've always hated the Chargers. The whole Nor Cal /SoCal thing...

But Turner turning his back on the Niners magified it 10 fold!!!!

You see him being interviewed when asked about Smith?

"I really enjoyed my year with Alex...he and I will be friends for life."

:sigh: Why is there no more loyalty in sports anymore? :csad:

Last year at his Intro as OC:

“This is a young team, and I look forward to being part of the young players’ development.”

FU TURNER! :cmad:

[Kaleb]

norv Turner = Mr Roper from threes company

[Kaleb]

NFL Network's Adam Shefter reports that witnesses in Las Vegas have claimed that Pacman Jones was biting the ankle of the bouncer who wound up getting shot during a melee.

That's not all. Jones was recovering from a previously unreported shoulder surgery and Shefter reports that the bouncer "popped" Jones' shoulder while holding him in an arm lock. Jones reportedly left in a great deal of pain. Jones emerged as one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL in 2006, but Jeff Fisher called a midseason suspension the "defining moment" of his career. If Jones is in trouble again, while also jeopardizing his health, the Titans will be compelled to punish him.

[Mister J]

NFL Network's Adam Shefter reports that witnesses in Las Vegas have claimed that Pacman Jones was biting the ankle of the bouncer who wound up getting shot during a melee.
Maybe someone told Adam the bouncer was actually a big ass Power Pellet. :huh:

More on Adam's Vegas Vacation...
Thug Life Live and on the Scene as Someone Tries to Bust a Cap in Another's Ass (http://www.wkrn.com/nashville/news/titans-pacman-witnesses-shooting-in-vegas/78891.htm)
It looks likes Tennessee Titans’ Pacman Jones did not listen to his own advice. Earlier this month the cornerback said, “I really need to watch where I go, maybe I’ll chill out at a jazz bar with some older folks."

Instead, Jones was in the parking lot of Las Vegas strip club when gunfire erupted.

Jones was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time according to his attorney. Worrick Robinson said Jones was not involved in the incident in any way.

Unfortunately, that didn't stop fans from talking.

Sports Talk host Mark Howard got an earful of anti-Pacman talk when Titans’ supporters heard ..the news. Howard said, “For the most part, people are tired of this act.”

Robinson said Jones is back in town after a week in Las Vegas for the NBA All-Star game. Police said Jones was at the Minxx Strip Club for a special celebrity event.

Robinson said, “He was invited by people like Nelly to come to this club and he went.”

Jones' attorney said customers inside the club started throwing money around, literally, to see what the entertainers would do.

“At one point when he was there, one of these big artists started throwing money and it became a challenge, which lady was going to get the money,” said Robinson.

That money “free for all” led to a fight outside the club in the parking lot.

Robinson said the Titans’ star observed gunfire that left two strip club employees critically injured but he did not stick around. “He said he was pretty scared. They just wanted to get out of that area,” said Robinson.

Jones went to his hotel, where he was questioned by police. He is not a suspect in the case, said Robinson and faces no charges at this time.
They should just trade him to the Bengals and get it over with. :o

[Kaleb]

Maybe someone told Adam the bouncer was actually a big ass Power Pellet. :huh:

More on Adam's Vegas Vacation...
Thug Life Live and on the Scene as Someone Tries to Bust a Cap in Another's Ass (http://www.wkrn.com/nashville/news/titans-pacman-witnesses-shooting-in-vegas/78891.htm)

They should just trade him to the Bengals and get it over with. :o

would make sence since the bengals are expected to cut Deltha O niel

[FaT_tONle]

Anyone think there is any chance Jones cuts Owens before the June cuts

[Kaleb]

there is no chance in hell he is going to do that, he never had a problem with Terrell it was Parcells whom had a problem with terrell

[FaT_tONle]

Any big free agents this year on the market. Who are they? Just found this thread by the way... glad there is a fan base here... but I have to admit... damn the NFL offseason is worthless... you got the draft and thats about it... everything else is a dud.... can't wait for September already... heck even August seems like real football

[Kaleb]

Any big free agents this year on the market. Who are they? Just found this thread by the way... glad there is a fan base here... but I have to admit... damn the NFL offseason is worthless... you got the draft and thats about it... everything else is a dud.... can't wait for September already... heck even August seems like real football
Wide reciever free agents
The crop of possible wideouts and tight ends who may be available is relatively thin. Donte' Stallworth, Drew Bennett, and Jerramy Stevens are the most consistent players with starting experience. Kevin Curtis, Ashley Lelie, Daniel Graham and Bobby Engram are next, and then the list falls off a cliff.

The list of teams looking for receivers finishes our rankings at the bottom.

Unrestricted free agents

1. Donte' Stallworth, Eagles - While he struggled with injuries in 2006, Stallworth has matured and showed consistency as a deep threat the last two seasons. He's a solid number two receiver who fits well in a West Coast offense. The Vikings are a likely suitor. The Patriots are a darkhorse.

2. Drew Bennett, Titans - Getting open isn't the problem. Catching the ball consistently is. While Bennett isn't polished, he's a proven starter with explosive ability. He's productive, a prototype No. 2 receiver. New England, San Francisco, Kansas City, Cleveland, and Jacksonville could all show interest.

3. Kevin Curtis, Rams - Curtis was highly productive in St. Louis when given the chance to start in 2005. He has great speed and knows Mike Martz's offense. The Lions should go hard after him.

4. Ashley Lelie, Falcons - After a lost season in Atlanta, Lelie is hitting the market at the wrong time. While there are perceptions he's soft, he's one of the most consistent deep threats in the league. At worst, he could make an explosive number three receiver. His age is a bonus.

5. Bobby Engram, Seahawks - One of the most underrated players of the last five years, Engram is content to effectively fill the role of a slot receiver. He would fit well in New England and Philadelphia. Seattle is unlikely to keep him because of a logjam at the position.

6. Travis Taylor, Vikings- The definition of replacement-level. He was Minnesota's most consistent wideout last year, but they probably won't keep him because of a legal mishap.

7. Dennis Northcutt, Browns - Once a productive slot receiver and return man, Northcutt had a case of the drops in 2006. He'll make a roster though.

8. Bobby Wade, Titans - Coming off the best season of his career, Wade still might not garner much interest. Returning to Tennessee is likely.

9. Andre' Davis, Bills - Strictly a special-teamer at this point, but a good one.
10. Corey Bradford, Lions- Near the end of the line.
11. Kelley Washington, Bengals- Hasn't developed as a pro.
12. Bethel Johnson, Vikings - Not good enough on returns to make up for deficiencies elsewhere.
13. Troy Brown, Patriots - It's unlikely he'd play for another team.
14. Justin Gage, Bears- Had his chance to start and never did much with it.
15. Cortez Hankton, Jaguars – A useful special teamer.
16. Az-Zahir Hakim, Lions- Mid-season pickup.

Restricted Free Agents

1. DJ Hackett, Seahawks- Hackett has played so well the last two years as a number four receiver, Mike Holmgren has to view him as a potential starter. If Seattle was foolish enough to place a low tender on him, look for significant interest in Hackett.

2. Wes Welker, Dolphins - There's a chance the new Dolphins regime may not value Welker's multi-dimensional skills as much as the old one. After catching more passes than Chris Chambers in 2006, teams like the Patriots would love to sign him to an offer sheet if Miami places a low tender on him. In the end, Cam Cameron could use him like he used Eric Parker in San Diego.

3. Patrick Crayton, Cowboys - Crayton has evolved into an explosive third receiver. Dallas should retain him.

4. Ernest Wilford, Jaguars - Jacksonville has seemingly soured on Wilford after a lackluster 2006 season. They probably won't re-sign him to a long-term deal, but he's likely to be back in 2007 as a reserve.

5. Samie Parker, Chiefs - Kansas City needs to upgrade from Parker. It's unlikely anyone would give up a pick for him.

6. Drew Carter, Panthers - Has passed Keary Colbert on the depth chart and should be back.

7. Terrance Copper, Saints- Proof that Sean Payton can make any receiver a fantasy factor. Copper should stay in New Orleans.

8. Clarence Moore, Ravens - Briefly cut by the Ravens last year before being re-signed.

Cap Casualty Candidates

1. Terrell Owens, Cowboys - Norv Turner reportedly didn't want Owens. He wasn't hired. We don't think it's a worthwhile investment to pay T.O. $10 million more this year, but it looks likely to happen in Dallas.

2. Joe Horn, Saints - Horn and the Saints appear headed for a divorce. Speed and durability have faded, so it's possible someone will overpay for him in free agency. A return to Kansas City would be interesting.

3. Marty Booker, Dolphins- Led Miami in receiving yards last season, but has a big cap number. Cam Cameron probably doesn't want to give up offensive talent, so Booker should be safe.

4. Amani Toomer, Giants - Recovering from a torn ACL, Toomer should be safe if only because his salary ($2.85 million) is affordable.

5. Justin McCareins, Jets- Not a favorite of the Mangini regime. It's hard to pinpoint why McCareins hasn't put together a better career, but he's still a useful number three receiver.

6. Mike Williams, Lions - The Detroit papers speculate that Williams could be cut, but he's expensive to get rid of. If he shows improved work ethic, he should make the team. That's a big if.

7. Brandon Lloyd, Redskins - A world class turd. It wouldn't shock me if Washington released Lloyd if he doesn't have a better attitude this summer.

8. Rod Smith, Broncos - Denver simply can't pay Smith $5.5 million to be a third receiver. The two sides should be able to work something out.

9. Keary Colbert, Panthers - Fallen off a cliff after a boffo rookie season, Colbert looks likely to get dumped by Carolina. He should get another chance.

10. Keenan McCardell, Chargers- Like Rod Smith, the aging process happened suddenly for McCardell. An unappreciated career could be over.

11. Brandon Stokley, Colts - Career is in jeopardy after tearing his Achilles' tendon.

Trade Candidates

1. Darrell Jackson, Seahawks - There is a perfect storm brewing for Jackson to get dealt. He has grumbled about his contract for years, saying Seattle didn't follow through with some promise. While always productive, Jackson has inconsistent hands and suffered through injuries the last two seasons.

Seattle has a logjam at receiver and could probably acquire a second-round pick for Jackson from teams like Minnesota, New England, or Green Bay.

2. Randy Moss, Raiders- By all accounts, Moss wants out. Oakland has enough receivers, so they may just give him up for a first-day draft pick. Al Davis usually doesn't like giving up talent that easily, though, so don't assume Moss will get what he wants.

Teams Looking for Wide Receivers

1. Vikings - Minnesota's passing game is in deep trouble. Their talent at quarterback and wide receiver is the worst in the league. Troy Williamson couldn't hold on to his starting job and hasn't matured as a pro. Travis Taylor is a free agent and is expected to leave. Marcus Robinson was cut at the end of 2006. There is almost no depth.

The Vikings have to add a wide receiver or two in free agency, and then add depth in the draft. They should be major players for West Coast offense veterans like Donte' Stallworth, Darrell Jackson, and Ashley Lelie. Stallworth makes a lot of sense.

2. Patriots - Even if it's all about the system, New England would love to upgrade at receiver. They offered Derrick Mason a big deal two years ago, so they will go after the right free agent. Bobby Engram, Drew Bennett, Joe Horn, and Wes Welker could all fit the Patriots' system. Ashley Lelie or Kevin Curtis could add some much-needed speed to the offense.

3. Kansas City Chiefs - Eddie Kennison is a number two receiver masquerading as a number one. Samie Parker is a number four receiver with a starting job. Dante Hall is done. Kansas City needs to infuse talent and fast.

4. San Francisco 49ers - Antonio Bryant is suspended for the start of the season and Arnaz Battle would make a better number three receiver than a starter. There isn't much depth on the bench, so look for the 49ers to add someone.

5. Philadelphia Eagles - Donte' Stallworth will be difficult to retain. Hank Baskett, Jason Avant, and Greg Lewis could slide up the depth chart, but Philadelphia would probably like to add more talent.

6. Jacksonville Jaguars - The Jags look set at receiver on paper, but there have been reports that they are tired of waiting for Matt Jones, Reggie Williams, and Ernest Wilford to develop. Division rival Drew Bennett could be a target.

7. Tampa Bay Bucs - Tampa likes Maurice Stovall and is hopeful of a rebound from Michael Clayton, but nothing is guaranteed from either player. Jon Gruden is always willing to take a gamble on talent, so they could get involved in the Randy Moss sweepstakes. Drafting Calvin Johnson is another option.

8. Detroit Lions - With Mike Furrey re-signed, the Lions don't need to add another receiver. But they are expected to go hard after former Mike Martz pupil Kevin Curtis, which would give the Lions an explosive wideout trio.

9. Bills - Buffalo has a lot of number three receivers (Peerless Price, Josh Reed, Roscoe Parrish), but no one to take pressure off Lee Evans. J.P. Losman needs more weapons. The Bills say they are happy with their group, though, so they probably won't be aggressive.

10. New York Giants - Amani Toomer is probably safe as he recovers from a torn ACL. Sinorice Moss has talent, but is unproven. The Giants could be interested in adding depth.

11. Cleveland Browns - Braylon Edwards can be a No. 1 receiver in time and Joe Jurevicius is a solid option in the slot. The Browns could surprise and go after one of the top names on this list or draft another receiver high.

12. Green Bay Packers - Brett Favre reportedly wants to throw to Randy Moss, so there is a chance that will happen. Greg Jennings had a great rookie season, but the Packers have no depth and may talk to West Coast wideouts like Ashley Lelie, Travis Taylor, and Darrell Jackson, if he's available.

13. Indianapolis Colts - How scary would the Colts be if they added Kevin Curtis? It won't happen because of the salary cap, but Indy could use a slot receiver.

14. St. Louis Rams - They need some depth and wideouts for the future. The draft may make more sense.

Unrestricted free agent tight ends

1. Daniel Graham, Patriots - New England has depth at the position, but Graham is their best overall tight end and a team captain. He's a punishing blocker and passable receiver. They will try to re-sign the team captain, but he will be tough to retain. Denver should go hard after him.

2. Jerramy Stevens, Seahawks - Seattle is thin at the position, but they may have grown tired of Stevens' inconsistencies. Unless a team like Minnesota steps up, though, the Seahawks seem like the most likely destination for Stevens.

3. Eric Johnson, 49ers - Johnson is a useful second tight end, but he's injury-prone, doesn't have any yards-after-catch ability, and isn't a great blocker. He'll get a job, but probably not as a starter.

4. David Martin, Packers - Martin showed enough flashes in 2006 to get a contract for next season.

5. Billy Miller, Saints - Drew Brees started looking to Miller more often at the end of the season. He could be brought back.
6. Kyle Brady, Jaguars - A sixth offensive lineman. This could be the year Brady finally retires.

Cap Casualty Candidates

1. Jermaine Wiggins, Vikings - His $1.45 million salary is reasonable, but Wiggins doesn't fit what Brad Childress wants in a tight end.

2. Erron Kinney, Titans - Injuries could end Kinney's career.

Teams Looking for Tight Ends

1. Vikings- The Vikings would love someone who could stretch the field.

2. Panthers - New offensive coordinator Jeff Davidson wants to feature tight ends more in the passing game. Jermaine Wiggins could be a fit.

3. Saints - Should try to do better than Billy Miller. A draft pick would make sense.

4. Bills - A decent pass-catching tight end could alleviate some pressure from J.P. Losman.

5. Seahawks - If Jerramy Stevens leaves; Seattle has a major hole at the position.

6. Bengals -They haven't made a pass-catching tight end in the past a priority.

7. Denver - The Broncos want a blocker to pair with Tony Scheffler.


the market isnt that big this yr for offensive free agents

[Kaleb]

Unrestricted Free Agents

1. Ahman Green, Packers - Green enjoyed a solid comeback season, but wore down with only 3.4 yards-per-carry in the second half of the year. Green is versatile and would be better off sharing the workload. The Packers may decide it's time to start fresh and let him leave.

2. Chris Brown, Titans - A promising career was derailed in Tennessee by incessant injuries and a bad attitude entering 2006. Brown wears down and isn't great near the goal. Still, he's an explosive player who would be a great third-down back in tandem with a bruiser. His style would fit zone blocking teams like Houston, Green Bay, and Denver well.

3. Dominic Rhodes, Colts - The playoffs made Dominic Rhodes a lot of money. He's now likely to be overpaid by a team hoping he runs like he did in January 2007 as opposed to his weak efforts in the 2005 and 2006 season. We doubt the Colts could afford to keep him.

4. Ron Dayne, Texans - After the best month of his career (429 yards in four games), Dayne damaged his free agency value by sitting out Week 17. He's always nicked up. It's hard to imagine another team would want him more than the Texans.

5. Najeh Davenport, Steelers - Pittsburgh's own Rocco DeMaro believes the Steelers will want Davenport back. There weren't many teams interested last off-season and it appears he'll never be a starter in the NFL like I imagined.

6. Musa Smith, Ravens - There's a lot of talent here, but Smith just can't stay healthy. He's a fine target as a third-down back because he'll come so cheaply.

7. Sammy Morris, Dolphins - Versatile and intelligent, Morris can fill a variety of roles. He does plenty of things well enough, but doesn't excel at any of them. He seems like the kind of player Philadelphia and New England would be interested in.

8. Justin Griffith, Falcons - A quality fullback/third-tailback option. He'll get a starting job somewhere.

9. Correll Buckhalter, Eagles - Buckhalter was a great story last season, but most teams will be afraid of his knee surgeries. A return to Philadelphia is the most likely scenario.

10. Anthony Thomas, Bills - Had a serviceable three-game run as a starter in which he compiled 299 total yards in three games. I'm shocked at the positive things I found written about Thomas in my notebook. Dick Jauron may want him back to play behind a starter to be named later.

11. TJ Duckett, Redskins - Sending two third-round picks for Duckett was the worst trade of 2006. He isn't guaranteed to stay in the league this season.

12. Stephen Davis, Rams - His comeback from microfracture surgery was solid, but he still may not get a job in 2007.

13. Marcel Shipp, Cardinals - Hasn't topped three yards-per-carry in two seasons.

14. Mike Alstott, Bucs - Probably will retire.

15. LaBrandon Toefield, Jaguars
16. Tony Fisher, Rams
17. Patrick Pass, Patriots

Restricted Free Agents

1. Michael Turner, Chargers – Fantasy owners are always looking for the new stud running back. Michael Turner should be that guy, but will it be in 2007 or 2008? Chargers GM A.J. Smith loves acquiring draft picks, so he'll listen to offers for Turner. I may be wrong, but it seems unlikely that anyone would give up a first round pick for Turner. Why not just draft your own guy? It would be cheaper because Turner will almost certainly require a contract extension.

There is virtually no chance someone will sign Turner away with an offer sheet. San Diego will place a first-round tender on him, if not a first-and-third-round tender. Both New York teams have reportedly shown interest, and Turner played under Jets coordinator Kurt Schottenheimer in San Diego. Baltimore is a great fit. In the end, I think San Diego will keep their valuable LT2 insurance unless they are blown away by an offer. I give Turner a 60-40 chance of staying put.

2. Maurice Hicks, 49ers - San Francisco should welcome third-down type back into the fold.

3. Artose Pinner, Vikings - The one-week wonder could stick because Minnesota has been so hot and cold on Mewelde Moore and Ciatrick Fason.

4. Shaud Williams, Bills - May not get a contract.

Trade Candidates

I covered all of these guys in my Off-season lowdown a few weeks ago, so you'll get the short version here.

1. Clinton Portis, Redskins - Washington may poke around the trade market, but Portis wouldn't be that cheap to move because of cap issues. He's not the problem on the Redskins offense.

2. Willis McGahee, Bills - At this point, I would be surprised if Willis McGahee was on the Bills in 2007. The team's website has said as much a few times. McGahee will probably want a contract extension with any possible move.

It's uncertain how other teams will view McGahee. He isn't great in the passing game and has a 3.9 yards-per-carry average. Green Bay, Cleveland, and both New York teams are possibilities.

3. Thomas Jones, Bears - Jones would fit great on the Giants or any team that needed someone to share the load, especially on passing downs. Unless Chicago gets a first-day pick, they may as well hold on to him.

4. Deuce McAllister, Saints - He's been mentioned in trade rumors, but we're not sure why the Saints would mess with what's working. Maybe next off-season.

5. Julius Jones, Cowboys - It all depends on what the new coach wants to do. Perhaps Norv Turner could turn Jones' career around.

6. Ricky Williams, Dolphins - New coach Cam Cameron seems open to keeping Ricky around. We bet that would change if someone offers a mid-round pick for him. Considering his history, that seems unlikely.

7. Tatum Bell, Broncos – Mike Shanahan was disappointed in Tatum Bell's fumbles at the end of the year. Denver should look aggressively to upgrade, and could be involved in the bigger names on this list. If nothing works out in free agency, they can wait for the draft. The Bell and Bell backfield isn't a terrible fallback option.

Cap Casualty Candidates

1. Lamont Jordan, Raiders – Jordan was a bust last season, but so was the whole Raiders offense. He may bristle at taking a small paycut, but I just don't see Oakland giving up offensive talent for free. He will probably stay in Oakland.

2. Travis Henry, Titans – Tennessee has to restructure Henry's contract. While it makes sense for both sides to come to a deal, Henry has never hit free agency as a pro. He may want to see what he can earn coming off a strong season. And do the Titans want to make a huge investment a year after drafting Lendale White?

3. Deshaun Foster, Panthers – While cutting Foster makes some sense to us, all indications from the Panthers are that he will stay.

4. Corey Dillon, Patriots – Dillon does not seem ready to be asked to take a paycut. That's his only chance of staying in New England. It would be a minor upset if he's back.

5. Jamal Lewis, Ravens – If Lewis didn't like the market for his services last off-season, he isn't likely to enjoy this one either. It will be a tough transition for him to become a backup, but that's what is likely to happen.

6. Kevan Barlow, Jets – Certain to get cut. Not so certain to get re-signed.

7. Mike Anderson, Ravens – He's likely to stay unless Baltimore loads up at the position.

8. Derrick Blaylock, Jets – Will have trouble finding a job. Could fit in St. Louis or somewhere looking for a

Teams Looking for Running Backs

Running back is the easiest position in the NFL to fill via the draft, so teams can be cautious in free agency. Even franchises that need a starter can sign a backup type and hope to find a gem on day one of the draft.

1. Packers - Ahman Green is an unrestricted free agent. Reports came out early in the off-season that a contract was close, but perhaps Green Bay is reconsidering after reviewing how badly Green tired in the second half of the season. We think it's time to start over. Vernand Morency could be a nice third-down back, but he's not a starter.

2. Browns - Cleveland would seemingly prefer Reuben Droughns to be a backup or a fullback. Jason Wright won't ever get 62 carries in a season again. Cleveland owns the third or fourth pick in the draft. If they don't make a splash at running back in free agency, they will probably draft Adrian Peterson.

3. Ravens - Musa Smith is a free agent and can't stay healthy. Mike Anderson is a highly paid backup, but should return. Jamal Lewis is due a $5 million bonus and will be released. While it's possible Baltimore could bring Lewis back, they are as likely as any team to aggressively look for a new runner in free agency.

They like bruisers, so Michael Turner, Corey Dillon, and Ricky Williams are all possibilities. They also could get involved in the McGahee sweepstakes.

3. Bills - At this point, I'll be surprised if Willis McGahee isn't traded this off-season. Anthony Thomas is a free agent, so Buffalo will be starting from scratch. They could re-sign Thomas and add a better talent to start, whether through free agency or the draft.

4. Jets - Kevan Barlow and Derrick Blaylock are cooked. Cedric Houston is Just A Guy, so that means the Jets will look for someone to pair with Leon Washington. We believe that Washington could grow into a primary role like Brian Westbrook, but the Jets probably don't want to bet the farm on it.

5. Texans - Domanick Davis/Williams is a mystery. The Texans will be pleasantly surprised if he makes the roster. Wali Lundy has potential to be a decent backup, while Samkon Gado and Chris Taylor aren't guaranteed roster spots. Ron Dayne is a free agent and there is a good chance he'll return. Who will want him more? But Houston needs a true starter and it's someone who hasn't played for them before.

6. Giants - There are questions about Brandon Jacobs' ability to handle the load by himself. At the very least, New York should pair him with a solid third-down back. Dominic Rhodes, Musa Smith, and Ahman Green are all possibilities.

7. Broncos - Mike Shanahan noted at his season-ending presser that Tatum Bell had a higher yards-per-carry average than Laurence Maroney. It was Bell's fumbles that did him in. Mike Shanahan will add talent to the position through free agency or the draft, possibly both. Chris Brown, Julius Jones, and Ricky Williams could all be fits.

8. Lions - Kevin Jones' foot might be healed in time for the 2007 season, but no one knows for sure. Brian Calhoun, his backup, is coming off a torn ACL. The Lions should be interested in a veteran to hold down the fort during the summer.

9. Titans - Travis Henry's contract will need to be restructured in order for him to stay. It makes sense for both sides to work out a deal. Other than Henry, Lendale White is the only decent option on the roster.

10. Eagles - Correll Buckhalter is a free agent and there's a good chance he'll be back in Philadelphia. That may not prevent the Eagles from looking around for a complement to Brian Westbrook. They usually save money at running back, so don't expect a big splash.

11. Steelers- Willie Parker hasn't been much of a factor on passing downs. Najeh Davenport is a free agent and Verron Haynes is coming off a torn ACL, so Pittsburgh could use some depth.

12. Vikings - On paper, Mewelde Moore and Ciatrick Fason look like decent backups, but Brad Childress seems unwilling to use them. He should fine someone he likes.

13. Raiders - LaMont Jordan is still under contract and is likely to stay. Justin Fargas showed he could be a passable backup. More talent wouldn't hurt, but it's not a priority for Oakland. A mid-to-late round draft pick makes sense.

14. Seahawks - Seattle should either use Maurice Morris in passing situations more or start grooming an heir apparent to Shaun Alexander.

15. Rams - Steven Jackson is a hoss, but an upgrade over Stephen Davis could help keep him fresh. Marshall Faulk seems likely to stay retired.

16. Colts - If Dominic Rhodes leaves, the Colts may look for a veteran backup to Joseph Addai. It would be a high-upside spot for fantasy leaguers.

17. Falcons - Warrick Dunn and Jerious Norwood are a decent twosome, but will they fit Atlanta's new scheme? Bobby Petrino may draft a power back or could sign one via free agency.



The only one that sticks out is Micheal Turner, and that ist saying much

[FaT_tONle]

Appreciate you taking the time to compile that list

[Kaleb]

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Unrestricted Free Agents

1. Damon Huard, Chiefs – Huard was having a Pro Bowl-quality season until Trent Green got healthy. The Chiefs offense fared much better with Huard in the lineup. He showed great touch on his passes. Huard will turn 34 next season, so he's not a long-term solution. He played under Al Saunders in Kansas City, so he's a natural fit in Washington.

2. Jeff Garcia, Eagles - Garcia barely got a job last off-season, but there should be more interest this time around. He showed surprising arm strength in 2006 as Andy Reid rehabbed his career. Garcia is a quality backup who could compete to start with an untested young player. Tampa Bay and Minnesota are natural fits because of their use of the West Coast offense.

3. Marques Tuiasosopo, Raiders - He never fit in Oakland's vertical attack after Jon Gruden left town. Tui hasn't looked great in limited work as a pro (two touchdowns, seven interceptions), but he's young enough to get another job. Reuniting with Gruden in Tampa makes sense.

4. Tim Rattay, Bucs - Rattay rehabbed his image in the league with three solid efforts in December, including a great three touchdown comeback in Chicago. Coaches never seem to warm to Rattay, but he's been consistently productive enough to get a backup job. Denver is a logical fit.

5. Anthony Wright, Bengals - Carson Palmer's backup could be back next season to perform the same duties.

6. Kerry Collins, Titans - Tennessee reportedly wants him back behind Vince Young. He may retire.

7. Todd Bouman, Saints - Couldn't win the backup job in New Orleans. Probably done.

Restricted Free Agents

1. Matt Schaub, Falcons - Schaub will be the subject of intense trade speculation again this off-season. The Falcons are committed to Michael Vick as their franchise quarterback and finances indicate they don't have a choice. Atlanta should be very tempted to deal Schaub in the last year of his contract, no matter what they've said publicly. Schaub's West Coast offense experience may not fit with Bobby Petrino's new offense anyhow.

Minnesota and Houston have the motivation to make a run at Schaub, who should get a high tender. One note of caution: Schaub has six touchdowns, six interceptions, and a 6.4 YPA in 161 career attempts.

2. Quinn Gray, Jaguars – Was a revelation in Jacksonville's regular season finale. Look for the Jaguars to retain Gray while cutting ties with Byron Leftwich or David Garrard. Gray would be the backup in that scenario.

3. Cleo Lemon, Dolphins – Lemon was a favorite of Marty Schottenheimer in San Diego, and showed plenty of natural skill in Miami's season finale. The Dolphins should make sure they retain Lemon and let him compete with Daunte Culpepper.

4. Jim Sorgi, Colts – Sorgi has looked great in limited work for the Colts. A long-term extension would make sense for the team if he's happy being a backup.

5. John Navarre, Cardinals – Will always be remembered as part of the Shaun King-Josh McCown-Navarre triangle of Dennis Green destruction in 2004.

6. Brian St. Pierre, Steelers

Trade Candidates

1. Byron Leftwich/David Garrard, Jaguars – I would take Leftwich over Garrard, but either player will be highly coveted on the trade market. Jacksonville has to make a decision here because Quinn Gray looks like a solid backup.

One of these guys should get dealt. New offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter favors a vertical approach and Jack Del Rio drafted Leftwich, both of which could help Leftwich's chances of staying. Either player can be a decent starter in the NFL, but Garrard probably has less trade value. Washington and Cleveland look like fits.

2. Jake Plummer, Broncos – Plummer collapsed in 2006 under the weight of a poor offense and a lack of confidence. Plummer is only 32 and just a year removed from back-to-back solid seasons. He will probably get a chance to start again and Houston is the most likely option. If the Broncos can't trade Plummer, they will probably cut him.

3. David Carr – It was a bad sign for Carr that he regressed under QB-friendly coach Gary Kubiak. He may need a fresh start, and there's a good chance Houston will oblige. Oakland seems like a fit.

Cap Casualty Candidates

1. Aaron Brooks, Raiders – Being better than Andrew Walter isn't good enough. A.B. would make a fine backup somewhere.

2. Joey Harrington, Dolphins – Won in Miami, but was a disaster by December. Harrington could possibly stay and compete with Daunte Culpepper and Cleo Lemon for snaps.

3. Drew Bledsoe, Cowboys – Just about done. Bledsoe could get a backup job if he wants, but we suspect he is looking for a chance to start. He may be out of those.

4. Billy Volek, Chargers – Due a roster bonus in March. Volek may be considered superfluous with Charlie Whitehurst around.

5. Patrick Ramsey, Jets – Kellen Clemens is the future in New York, and Chad Pennington is the present.

6. Brad Johnson, Vikings – Almost certain to be released. Less certain that he'll find a job.

7. Chris Weinke, Panthers – Carolina wants to upgrade at backup quarterback after Weinke tanked in December this season.

8. Mark Brunell, Redskins – Will be tough to return from shoulder surgery at his age.

Teams Looking for Quarterbacks

Notice I call this list teams looking for quarterback. Some teams, like the Lions and Bills, could probably use another quality arm. But they aren't expected to be looking, especially for a veteran.

1. Minnesota Vikings - Tarvaris Jackson is an intriguing talent, but he's a question mark. His two late season starts didn't settle the team's long-term plans. Brooks Bollinger has a chance to start. He's better than his reputation, but Brad Childress will look to upgrade. Familiarity with the West Coast offense will be a plus, so names like Jeff Garcia, Matt Schaub, Jake Plummer, Tim Rattay, and Marques Tuiasosopo make sense.

2. Oakland Raiders - The organization still appears to have some faith in Andrew Walter, although we're not sure why. Aaron Brooks is unlikely to be back. Oakland may not be patient enough to draft a quarterback with the first pick in April. It wouldn't be a surprise if they went after Jake Plummer, Byron Leftwich, or David Carr, then take Calvin Johnson with the first pick.

3. Washington Redskins - I've watched a lot of tape on Jason Campbell. There is plenty of talent, but he was highly inconsistent throw-to-throw. With the Redskins in perpetual win-now mode, I'd be surprised if the Redskins don't go after one of the Jaguars quarterbacks or Damon Huard.

4. Houston Texans - David Carr seems likely to be traded. Houston is high on Sage Rosenfels, but they will want to bring in competition. This is the most likely destination for Jake Plummer because Gary Kubiak coached him in Denver. Houston could also choose to draft a quarterback to develop under Rosenfels.

5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - After Chris Simms' signing, Jon Gruden admitted that, "There's a good chance someone else will be in town competing."

He wasn't talking about Bruce Gradkowski. Gruden was a fan of Marques Tuiasosopo, so the former Raider is a viable option. Gruden never met a veteran he didn't like, so look for the Bucs could also sniff around Jeff Garcia and Jeff Plummer. Someone will compete with Simms.

6. Cleveland Browns - GM Phil Savage is in a tough spot. Charlie Frye and Derek Anderson are both young players, so drafting another quarterback seems redundant. Neither Frye or Anderson is proven, so I suspect the Browns will look around. If they don't find anything they like, they can pass.

7. Kansas City Chiefs - Trent Green started showing his age last season. Damon Huard is a free agent and likely to leave. The Chiefs ostensibly have their "quarterback of the future" in second-year player Brodie Croyle, but he had a bad training camp last season. The Chiefs should be looking for a quarterback, but we're not sure they will.

8. Detroit Lions - Jon Kitna isn't going to win you a Super Bowl. Detroit says they are content to stand pat at the quarterback position, but it wouldn't shock us if they drafted Brady Quinn in April.

9. Dallas Cowboys - If Drew Bledsoe retires; the Cowboys could use an experienced backup.

10. Baltimore Ravens - The Ravens already have to think about life after Steve McNair and Kyle Boller. Boller is a free agent at the end of the 2007 season.

11. Carolina Panthers - They would like a backup to replace Chris Weinke. A draft pick is possible.

12. Miami Dolphins - They have invested so much in Daunte Culpepper, there is probably no looking back. Cleo Lemon is more likely to compete for a job than a free agent.

13. Denver Broncos - If Jake Plummer is traded, Denver will want to get a veteran backup.

14. Philadelphia Eagles - Even if Jeff Garcia leaves, A.J. Feeley probably works as a backup.

its from rotoworld.com

[Kaleb]

Daunte Culpepper-QB-Dolphins


Dolphins GM Randy Mueller admits he'll be looking at quarterbacks closely at this week's combine.
Mueller won't be afraid to draft more depth with Daunte Culpepper a question mark and Cleo Lemon in the last year of his contract. At one point, one of Mueller's New Orlans Saints' QB depth charts included Jeff Blake, Aaron Brooks, Jake Delhomme and Marc Bulger.
Source: South Florida Sun-Sentinel

[Memphis Slim]

:dry: :dry: :dry:

Colts' Rhodes faces charges on DUI arrest
Running back appears in court, is released with no bail

By Vic Ryckaert
With the luster of a starring role in the Indianapolis Colts' Super Bowl victory this month just behind and the prospect of a lucrative free agent contract ahead, running back Dominic Rhodes' early morning arrest Tuesday on a charge of driving while intoxicated couldn't have come at a much more awkward time for him or his team.
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Released: Dominic Rhodes (right) leaves his preliminary hearing with attorney Frederick Vaiana. - Charlie Nye / The Star


http://www.indystar.com/graphics/clear.gifRhodes was released with no bail after a brief Tuesday afternoon hearing.
Marion County Prosecutor Carl Brizzi said Rhodes' blood-alcohol level tested at 0.09 percent, and declined further comment. The Indiana legal limit is 0.08.
"We are very troubled by Dominic Rhodes' arrest for DUI," Colts president Bill Polian said in a statement released by the club. "In accordance with state law and NFL policy, we will have no further comment until the case has been dealt with by the justice system.
"It should be noted that Dominic's contract with the Colts expires on February 28, and under NFL rules he will be a free agent, although still subject to league discipline under the Substances of Abuse Policy."
Rhodes rushed 21 times for a game-high 113 yards and one touchdown to help the Colts beat the Chicago Bears 29-17 in Super Bowl XLI on Feb. 4 in Miami. He was a standout in a victory celebrated almost as much for the team's character as its performance.
What impact the arrest and charge might have on Rhodes' attractiveness as a free agent remains to be seen.
Rhodes was led into court Tuesday dressed in a black Nike sweat jacket and pants for a hearing that lasted less than a minute.
The court ordered him released on his own recognizance and instructed Rhodes to appear for an initial hearing before Marion Superior Court Judge Barbara A. Collins at 8:30 a.m. today.
The player, his friends and an attorney left the Arrestee Processing Center just minutes after the 1:30 p.m. hearing, which took place in a small court that is part of the booking center.
Rhodes and several friends walked past reporters and photographers, climbed into a silver Mercedes and drove away without commenting.
Before the hearing, Rhodes' attorney, Frederick Vaiana, said the player had tested "1/100th of a percent above the legal limit" for alcohol. Defense attorneys typically argue in the event of a conviction that a blood-alcohol level that close to the line is grounds for a lighter sentence.
Indiana State Police stopped Rhodes in a silver GMC at 3:02 a.m. on northbound I-65 near 71st Street, near the Colts' Northwestside complex, First Sgt. David Bursten said in a written statement. Police said Rhodes was driving 81 mph in a 55-mph zone.
Marion County court records show Rhodes, 28, was arrested on initial charges of misdemeanor operating a vehicle while intoxicated. His vehicle was impounded and is being stored at a lot in Speedway, police said.
"Mr. Rhodes was cooperative during his arrest and nothing out of the ordinary of a routine drunk driving investigation occurred," Bursten said.
A message left with Rhodes' agent was not immediately returned.
Sgt. Mark Allen, a supervisor at the APC, said the Colts player received no special treatment.
"Everybody's treated the same here," Allen said.
This is Rhodes' second arrest in Marion County.
In March 2002, he was arrested on battery and domestic battery charges after police said he struck his live-in girlfriend, Latrina Moore, and pushed her to the ground. A deputy dispatched to Rhodes' Indianapolis home observed a red mark on the left side of Moore's face and a swollen lip, according to court records.
Rhodes later admitted to the crime and was placed in a diversion program in September 2002.
Diversion is a program offered by prosecutors that allows an individual without a prior criminal record to avoid a conviction.
The defendant in diversion typically completes classes, pays fees or restitution and fulfills other requirements set out in an agreement signed by a judge. After they complete all the requirements, prosecutors drop the original charges.
Diversion is a one-time opportunity. Rhodes will not be eligible for the program in this drunken driving arrest.
Under "Alcohol-Related Offenses," the NFL's policy on substances of abuse states that, "The commissioner will review and may impose a fine, suspension or other appropriate discipline if a player is convicted of or admits to a violation of the law . . . "
Absent aggravating circumstances, the policy continues, discipline for a first offense generally is a fine.

[Kaleb]

I doubt any teams will be paying top dolla to go after him in the offseason,perhaps the bengals

[Mister J]

Police: Adam Jones' Cash Display Sparked Vegas Melee (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2775250)

OK, seriously, this dude is more thuggish than I thought (and that's saying a lot). Who the hell carries $81,000 in cash and then is shocked when people go crazy, scrambling to get it? Choking strippers? ...even for Thug Life, that's a bit much. The boys at PTI think he's played his last game for the Titans. He needs to be charged with Inciting a Riot. "I threw the money as a visual effect". Ass. :whatever:

[Fran]

Adam will prove us all wrong next season. Jerks.

[Mee]

Vince Young will be his lawyer and clear him of all charges. You'll see.

[NewYorkSpider]

I thought that the 2007 NFL Thread would be Titans free.:huh:

[Fran]

So far, we're Hooters Pimp-free. We should be lucky.

[NewYorkSpider]

That makes me feel a little better.

[Immortalfire]

So far, we're Hooters Pimp-free. We should be lucky.

He'll be inhabiting the MLB thread for now.

[Cmill216]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/patriots/2007-02-23-corey-dillon_x.htm?POE=SPOISVA

Corey Dillon to Retire...

[Mee]

Not surprised. No big loss for the Pats either.

[Darren Daring]

Well...I've always hated the Chargers. The whole Nor Cal /SoCal thing...

But Turner turning his back on the Niners magified it 10 fold!!!!

You see him being interviewed when asked about Smith?

"I really enjoyed my year with Alex...he and I will be friends for life."

:sigh: Why is there no more loyalty in sports anymore? :csad:

Last year at his Intro as OC:

“This is a young team, and I look forward to being part of the young players’ development.”

FU TURNER! :cmad:

You're a jackass! This is a chance to be a Head Coach, how can he pass that up? Don't be selfish:cmad:

[Kaleb]

FIRE SALE FOR "RAIN MAN"

Multiple league sources tell us that the Tennessee Titans are actively shopping cornerback Pacman Jones, who thanks to a reader suggestion will now be known as "Rain Man" on this here site, due to the melee that his "makin' it rain" routine sparked on Sunday.

We've heard that the Titans will take as little as a third-round pick for the No. 6 overall selection in the 2005 draft.

Said one league source: "Maybe the Bengals will take him."

[bored]

Poor GR87. He finally had a real reason to be optimistic for his team's chances next season, and now their best defensive player is probably going to be playing somewhere else.

[StorminNorman]

You are such a jerk. Vince Young can play defense, he is the greatest, he will prove you all wrong.

[CConn]

That's a great avvy, Norm.

Send me the original pic Asap, plz.

[StorminNorman]

That's a great avvy, Norm.

Send me the original pic Asap, plz.

True Story: I was looking at various Watchmen Pictures and thinking "Hmm, which one would CConn chose" :D

http://home.insightbb.com/%7Efourcolorheros1/watchmen/watchmensource.jpg

[CConn]

Ironically, I once tried to read Watchmen and couldn't make it through two issues. :down

[StorminNorman]

Ironically, I once tried to read Watchmen and couldn't make it through two issues. :down

:wow: I just bought it last Sunday and have read it and have been rereading it ever since.

[Cmill216]

Yeah, so about that NFL..... ;)

The Patriots need to stop being cheap bastards and pay somebody. And please get Tom Brady a real receiver.

[Cmill216]

Editastic.

[StorminNorman]

I agree with everything the turtle said :up:

[CConn]

:wow: I just bought it last Sunday and have read it and have been rereading it ever since.
That could be due to either of two reasons...

(a) We're different people with different sensibilities, or (b) you're the Predator from the popular science fiction/action film 'The Predator' staring Ving Rhames.

[StorminNorman]

That could be due to either of two reasons...

(a) We're different people with different sensibilities, or (b) you're the Predator from the popular science fiction/action film 'The Predator' staring Ving Rhames.

Well since I refuse to believe we have different sensibilities, the reason seems to be obvious...

[CorporalHicks]

http://caowens.com/troy_polamalu.jpg

be expecting to see this guy's name in the paper

[Mister J]

Kelley Washington? He's a free agent and don't see why Cinci or anyone would sign him. :huh:

[The_Mystery]

Yeah, so about that NFL..... ;)

The Patriots need to stop being cheap bastards and pay somebody. And please get Tom Brady a real receiver.

I agree. I'm glad they didn't let Asante Samuels go, but they really need wide receivers. Jabar Gaffeney(sp) has proven that he can get the job done, but in my opinion Reche Caldwell isn't a first-stringer. They need a super receiver that Brady can count on in a clutch. Brady needs his own Marvin Harrison.

[The_Mystery]

Man, I can't believe Corey Dillon is hangin' it up. He produces more than Malroney(sp) does and definitely has more experience. He will be sorely missed.

[Ben Urich]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/incurock31/Picture4-2.png

:o

[Jerry]

I can't blame players like Barber or Dillion for retiring what people see as early. These guys want to be able to frigging stand and walk without pain years from now. They want to be able to walk without limping for the rest of their life. Has anyone seen Ditka or Namath or Butkus actually walk? They are wrecks. Ditka doesn't so much walk as waddle because of the damage done. But in those days they had to keep playing, they weren't paid millions. And now, the players are faster, stronger, than ever before. Hats off to players like Dillion for being smart. A lot of fans can't see that, they only think of "Oh woe is my team and I." These guys want to be able to actually enjoy retirement, not feel like they are still grinding it when they are 50-60, like former players like Ditka are now.

[Mister J]

I can't blame players like Barber or Dillion for retiring what people see as early. These guys want to be able to frigging stand and walk without pain years from now. Has anyone seen Ditka or Namath or Butkus actually walk? They are wrecks. But in those days they had to keep playing, they weren't paid millions. And now, the players are faster, stronger, than ever before. Hats off to players like Dillion for being smart. Fans can't see that, they only think of "Oh woe is my team and I." These guys want to be able to actually enjoy retirement, not feel like they are still grinding it when they are 50-60, like players like Ditka are now.
Guys need to take that kind of thing into consideration, especially for running backs. ESPN had a segment on Earl Campbell. The man can barely move.

[The_Mystery]

I can't blame players like Barber or Dillion for retiring what people see as early. These guys want to be able to frigging stand and walk without pain years from now. They want to be able to walk without limping for the rest of their life. Has anyone seen Ditka or Namath or Butkus actually walk? They are wrecks. Ditka doesn't so much walk as waddle because of the damage done. But in those days they had to keep playing, they weren't paid millions. And now, the players are faster, stronger, than ever before. Hats off to players like Dillion for being smart. A lot of fans can't see that, they only think of "Oh woe is my team and I." These guys want to be able to actually enjoy retirement, not feel like they are still grinding it when they are 50-60, like former players like Ditka are now.

Yeah, I agree with what your saying. The common sense part of me understands and agree with Dillon. He should do the right thing for his health. The Pats fan in me knows how much of an asset he is to his team and will sorely miss his contributions.

[Showtime]

Apparently Dillon retracted his statment only hours later saying he was going to play another year but it will be with another team.

[Kaleb]

pacmans career is as good as dead,the bouncer said that pacman punched the striper in her face a few times,then when he left pacman told the bouncer he is a deadman,minutes later the bouncer gets shot.Oh and the best part is that most of this was caught on cctv.

[Kaleb]

Sorry i meant thats what the owner of the club said.

[Machx72]

Ravens will do 9-7 at best, I think.

Jamal Lewis was underrated as a staple to the team.

And Steve McNair was slightly overrated.

[Fran]

Things just aren't going well for the Broncos organization. :csad:

Nash collapses and dies after charity basketball game

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2778713

Denver Broncos reserve tailback Damien Nash collapsed and died Saturday evening after an appearance in a charity basketball game in St. Louis.

Nash, a two-year NFL veteran, was 24.

Agent David Canter confirmed his client's death, as did Denver team officials.

Canter, who is attending the annual NFL scouting combine in Indianapolis, was first contacted by ESPN.com earlier in the evening, after ESPN.com received reports of Nash's death from people close to other players who had participated in the basketball game. While he was on the phone with ESPN.com, Canter, who was unaware of the incident, received a call from Denver officials confirming Nash's death.

"It's true," said an obviously distraught Canter. "It's true. I don't know what more to say right now, OK?"

Details of the incident were not yet available, and an official with the St. Louis police said an investigation was in its "very earliest" stages.

The proceeds of the event were to benefit the Darris Nash Find A Heart Foundation, which raises money for heart transplant research. The foundation was created last month after Darris Nash, 25, the older brother of Damien Nash, received a heart transplant.

A former University of Missouri standout, Nash entered the NFL as a fifth-round choice of the Tennessee Titans in 2005. He played three games with the Titans as a rookie, and then signed with Denver as a free agent last August. In his one season in Denver, he appeared in three games, rushing 18 times for 66 yards.

Nash is the second Broncos' player to die since the end of the 2006 season. Two-year veteran cornerback Darrent Williams was shot to death in a limousine after leaving a Denver-area nightclub on Jan. 1.

R.I.P. Damien Nash. :csad:

[CConn]

God must be a Chiefs fan. :(

[Jerry]

Damien Nash..HE GONE.

[NewYorkSpider]

RIP Damien Nash :csad:

[Kaleb]

Holy **** calvin johnson just ran a 4.35 at the combine.

[Cmill216]

Holy **** calvin johnson just ran a 4.35 at the combine.

Link?

[Machx72]

Damien Dash used to run a 4.1 =-o.

R.I.P. to the second fastest man in the NFL :-(.

[Kaleb]

Rotoworld.Com

[bored]

God must be a Chiefs fan. :(


I could have told you that.


Btw, holy crap to Calvin Johnson.

[Spider-Fan]

Didn't know Johnson was that fact.

Is Adrian Petersen working out at the combine? I'm hoping my Brownies pick him.

[Kaleb]

Yes adrian is working out at the combine he ran a 4.38,which was the 2nd fastest for rbs.Browns would proberbly grab joe thomas since bently is now out for the 2007 season and his career is in danger.

[Cmill216]

^ LeCharles don't play tackle, though.

Lions will snatch up Joe Thomas. Browns (if they don't, god forbid, trade down) will take Quinn or Peterson.

[bored]

I just read that Jared Allen is trying to get out of KC. That bums the hell out of me. He's a restricted free agent, so the Chiefs can make it hard to lose him, but you never know what could happen. He's one of my favorite players, and has basically been the focal point of the reenergized defense. Losing him would devastate the team and the fans.

[Kaleb]

^ LeCharles don't play tackle, though.

Lions will snatch up Joe Thomas. Browns (if they don't, god forbid, trade down) will take Quinn or Peterson.
my bad , I was thinking of someone else.

[Cmill216]

Start with Calvin Johnson of Georgia Tech. If Randy Moss is called The Freak, Johnson should be called Super Freak. Surprise filled the media room at the Indianapolis scouting combine Friday when Johnson revealed that he recorded 239 pounds at his combine weigh-in, about 12 pounds more than anyone expected. Minds flashed to Mike Williams' failures with the Lions.

Then, Johnson said he would wait until his March 15 workout at Georgia Tech to let everyone see his speed. Toying with the minds of scouts and the laws of reality, Johnson changed his mind. He borrowed a pair of running shoes and ran the 40-yard dash in an incredible 4.35 seconds on Sunday. Because Johnson is 6-foot-5 and 239 pounds, cornerbacks around the NFL must have cringed when they heard that.

"This season I played at about 235 and I got up to 238," Johnson said. "It's not a problem."

Send those borrowed shoes to the Pro Football Hall of Fame, because a legend was born Sunday in Indianapolis. Prompted by reporters' questions, Johnson wouldn't dismiss the notion that he is the best athlete in this draft.

"I definitely feel that way," he said. "I'm standing right in front of you. I mean, not many people have my size, speed and strength."

Also, Johnson comes to the NFL baggage free, which is helping his ascent of draft boards. His character checks out well. He says he's a physical combination of Moss and Terrell Owens with Marvin Harrison's work ethic. Moss and Owens are great talents who often cause coaches great headaches.

"Obviously, this year a lot has been made of Randy Moss and T.O., but my character on the field is more like Marvin Harrison," Johnson said. "I'm just trying to get the job done. I'm more like Marvin Harrison with the attitude."

Tampa Bay Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden might have initially felt he lost on Friday when a coin flip dropped the Bucs behind the Browns for the fourth spot in the draft. Johnson would complete a perfect series of offensive draft choices if he could join running back Carnell "Cadillac" Williams and wide receiver Michael Clayton.

Gruden still has hope, though. The Raiders are set to keep Moss and receiver Jerry Porter, and as tough as it might be for owner Al Davis to pass on Johnson, they will likely go for quarterback JaMarcus Russell of LSU. After going one for three with big receivers (Williams, Rogers and Roy Williams) in recent drafts, the Lions certainly can't take Johnson, particularly after re-signing Mike Furrey (and they plan to go after Kevin Curtis of the Rams). The Browns appear to be leaning toward Oklahoma halfback Adrian Peterson, leaving Johnson as the steal of the draft to Tampa Bay at No. 4.

I :heart: Calvin Johnson.

Please dear Baby Jesus, let him be a Buc.

[Kaleb]

Plz baby jesus dont let calvin johnson become a brown ,i dont want to have to face him twice a yr.

[The_Mystery]

Troy Brown from the Pats is now talking about retirement. It's gonna be a hard year for us Pats fans.

[NewYorkSpider]

Troy Brown from the Pats is now talking about retirement. It's gonna be a hard year for us Pats fans.

You still have Tom Brady. You Patriots fans will be fine.

[Ben Urich]

The draft expert (not Mel Kiper) at ESPN rated Calvin Johnson a 99 at the combine. :wow::huh:

[ScottyBBadd]

Yes adrian is working out at the combine he ran a 4.38,which was the 2nd fastest for rbs.Browns would proberbly grab joe thomas since bently is now out for the 2007 season and his career is in danger.

Assuming Joe Thomas doesn't go 2nd to Detroit.

[Mister J]

Ravens cut Jamal Lewis, but seem to want to sign him back.
Medical researchers want to see if Calvin Johnson is weakened by Kryptonite.
JaMarcus Russell shows up to the combine about 10 pounds overweight.
Talks heat up about Randy Moss being traded to Green Bay (the Domino Effect here is speculated that the Raiders may draft Calvin Johnson instead if this goes through ...I hope for cmill's sake that this doesn't happen).
and (because we all should expect it by now), more charges (non-Vegas related) to a guy attempting to shame an entire league...
Thug Life, Baby! WESTSIDE! (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2784050):whatever: :dry:

[Kaleb]

Dre Bly has been traded to Denver for Tatum bell and Goerge Forester .

[Cmill216]

Getting Tatum Bell pretty much takes them out of the Adrian Peterson race, which makes them all the more likely to take Joe Thomas.

[Cmill216]

Oh, and Mike Alstott resigned with Tampa, and in bigger news:

Joey Porter got cut. :wow:

[Kaleb]

lmao at porter been cut

[Kaleb]

Joe Horn has been cut

[Byrd Man]

Joe Horn has been cut

Damn. I wonder if they did it on a cellphone.

[Cmill216]

- Lovie Smith got paid.
- The A Train rides again.
- Porter and Horn go bye-bye.
- Bledsoe gets the boot.
- Denver lands a man to play across Champ.

[bored]

Alstott's coming back? That's nice. I pay little attention to the Bucs, but Mike Alstott just seems like a cool player.

[LostSon88]

Niners cut Antonio Bryant.

Good Riddence...one thing we don't need in San Fran is another T.O. situation...

[Kaleb]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v456/kaleb007/MillionaireFisher.jpg :D

[FaT_tONle]

I am a Cowboy fan and wondering what on earth is their cap situation... it looks like Owens is staying... they have been stock pilling draft picks on high priced overrated players on D... and they signed Mcbriar and Gurode to huge deals... Bleadsoe couldn't have saved them that much... I just hope we don't end up like the Titans a few years back when they had to break the whole team apart... seems like they are still rebuilding from that

[Kaleb]

An apology from Adam "Pacman" Jones..

Hello and I asked for this space to clear up some misconstruations about my role in the brutal attacks on the villains at Minxx Gentleman's Club on or about on February 16th. There has been numerous wild accusations thrown about in the press about the actions of myself and they are false as are the accusations regarding all previous actions I have not undertaken. I have been systematically beleaguered and belittled by the government. Officials and the media are on a crusade to destroy my career as one of the best cornerbacks and punt returners in the history of football.

First let me ask you a question. If a white man in a suit walks into an establishment with a briefcase containing 81,000 dollars nobody thinks it's anything unusual, but when a black man walks into an establishment with 81,000 in a backpack and he throws it up in the air all of a sudden everybody think you can just put all that money in a trash bag and walk up out of the club like it's yours. Now my question is, isn't that pretty messed up? It's the injustice of inequalities persisting in society despite the civil rights movement and Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. God bless him.

Let me ask you something else. If you ever seen that movie about dancing in the rain you know that guy is running around dancing in the rain. Did that guy try to pick up a puddle and walk off with it? Did that fool think he own the rain? No. No, he respected the rain's neutralities. He is dancing and singing in the rain, but he just borrowing that rain for effect. Then the rain goes into a drain after it's all stopped raining and that comes out of your faucet. So the rain is for everybody, but only afterwards. That's just a simple common sense rule I think everybody understands. My little baby girl understand that. You can bet damn sure Kellen Winslow understand that. Now don't you think a night club promoter, near on 40 of the exoticist dancers and some bouncers would understand that?

It's just like the laws of nature. Like what goes up must come down, if you will. The Rain Dance is sanctimonious and harmonified to the perplexity of the common man. Even animals know how it work, little turtles and baby pigs, they know.

Now to address this latest controversy surrounding my upstanding law-abiding demeanors I have to harken back to the night of October 26 of last year. I was enjoying myself at a club when I was accosted unjustifiably by police and delivered with accusations that I had assaulted some stupid woman and spit on her face. I thought there was an echo because as you will recall there was a similar spurnious accusation leveled upon my visage following an enjoyable night in August of that same year.

Minxx ad
I do not suggest you visit this place they will engineer scantillating stories and the women look like they had sea sections on their vaginas.
Of course I was also completely innocent of the first crime, but my stupid lawyer friged everything up like a crazy wop and the judge told me if it happened again I would be in some serious trouble. Now, I up a Christian man and I bless God for all of my faith and the Lord Jesus Christ, so I had not been priorly engaged in criminal activities despite my conviction of felony assault at a nightclub in 2005. A charge which I will dispute to my grave but which I will not be addressing further in this context.

So imagine my fear when I am told by police as I am brutalized into the back of their police vehicle that I am being accused unwrongfully, once again, of expectorations to the face of a woman. The words of the judge rang up in my ears about receiving a probation sentence and staying out of trouble as conditionalities of my previous miscarriages of justice. I said "no officer, I ain't done that" and I told him to look up around her eyes at them nasty rump crow's feet and that hump on her back and they see I ain't parleying with no woman like that. Not even to give her spit in her face for telling me she won't stimulate my genitalias in the bathroom while her friend Destiny sit up on my tongue.

The police had a deaf ear for the concerns of a black man and as usual they aligned with the accusatory party and her Chinese friend and the club manager and the freaky white girl who was like 25 and still wearing braces to put a black man behind bars. The conspirations went all the way to the top on my second charge of unlawful salivating. Once again the judge seemed to favor leniency out of dutiful respect due to my efforts on the Tennessee Titans and dismissed the assault charge. He did say in an ominous fashion that if I became embroiled in the criminal behavior again I might be in trouble.

If only I had known that this seemingly benevolent dismissification was part of an overarching conspirational method the police and the government were using to entrap me in a web of falsifications.

Which brings me to the current controversies which have been unfairlessly aimed at ruining my career. A normal man might just give up and decide to stop fighting for justice, but my faith in the Lord is not weak and I know I can rely on Him to shine the light into the hearts of the people who will be abjudiacating on my vicissitudes. I almost do not want to reprint the charges and accusation being leveled at me regarding these fabricated events of on or about February 16th, but I will let stupid blind rump white night club owner Robert Susnar tell it how he told the white police what was transpired:

When one of the strippers started grabbing the money without Jones' permission, he got angry, grabbed her hair and slammed her head against the stage, Susnar said.

That's when security guard Cudworth, a mixed-martial artist with professional fighting experience, intervened and stopped the assault, he said.

"At that point, Pacman said, 'I'm going to kill you,'" Susnar said.

A melee ensued as Cudworth scuffled with Jones and members of his entourage, Susnar said.

Order was eventually restored, and everyone was moved outside. That's when the gunman opened fire toward the front door of the club, hitting Cudworth, security guard Tom Urbanski and a female customer.

Yeah, right, first off that's all lies and speculations based on predatory accusations against my person and personages. This vile slandery and libelousness will not stand.

Allow me to dissect these insubstantialated claims of Mr. Susnar.

Pacman in uniform
I will be returning to the field shortly when I am elevated above this mess.
Claim number one I tried to put a stripper's head through a stage: FALSE. I do admit to pulling on her hair but only as a means of friendly redirection. As for the crazy ho putting her face into the stage, do I look like a mother******g buttress? I am not responsible for her stability. If a ***** pulls on her hair in a polite way and she falls over that's not a crime that's just clumsiness. That's not even a penalty.

Claim number two Cudworth was doing kung fu shoot and whipped my rump: FALSE. I don't know who this joker is trying to fool but he tried that seven chambers shoot on me and I straight up elbowed his throat. That's not me admitting to assault neither, he came at me all Enter the Dragon and so I just defended myself like any human being would.

Claim number three I said 'I'm going to kill you' to the bouncers: TRUE, BUT...they didn't quote my whole sentence. This is endemicative of the distortions and contortions the police and the white man use to rob the black man of his freedom. The truth of what I was trying to convey is that I wanted to settle our grieviances amicably. I was saying to him "Fool stop throwing those shaolin chicken wings at me before I bust you in half and let's settle this on the Tekken machine. I will kill you, figurativially, using the Tekken machine."

Another fight broke out and my bodyguards got involved: FALSE. That ho who was snatching up my money was crying and holding her nose and dripping blood all over and it got up in my cream colored Bruno Maglis. They having conniptions over my 81,000 dollars and then they spraying blood all over shoes cost twice that? I chased that ***** down and put a punch right on the back of her head. It was self defense she attacking me with her blood like a reverse vampire or something. How do I know it ain't full up of triple AIDS? My bodyguards weren't involved at all with that aspect of the aliteration, though I expect they holding they own should any other doings transpirationing.

One of my people shot their security guards and a female customer: FALSE!! The worst lie of all. There was some ***** named Hootie just sat down with us and was enjoying the show. Me, being a magnetomous gentleman, allowed him to stay and watch the proceedings. I had words with him and he might have came in at the same time and be carrying my backpack and wearing a Pacman Jones jersey, but there a lot of people fitting that description in America. You gonna arrest everyone who wears my jersey? Do I gotta get charged to every time someone carrying a backpack when they commit a malfeasance? I can't say it any more lucidly: I DID NOT KNOW THIS GENTLEMAN WHAT DID ALL THE SHOOTING.


I think all of my alibies are in order and I know that I will be vindicated at the end of these procedures. This is the truth from my brain to yours, so that when the white man and the police department and the witnesses try to spin it elsewise you will know what the real truth is.

I thank my mother. I thank God and JEsus Christ, without whom we would not be where we are today. I thank my attorney Jonah H. Abromowitz, as well as my reps at Global Talent. Shout out to Hootie, I be praying for you and I'll look after your babies and their moms until this whole thing blows over.

Most of all, I am very regretful of all the misunderstandings regarding the incidents source : http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/pacman-jones-nightclub.php





In other news Jake Plummer has been traded to the Bucs for a 4th round pick

[Showtime]

Look for the Patriots to sign Adalius Thomas within the next week, maybe as soon as this weekend or early next week.

[Kaleb]

I still think he will Sign with the 49ers .

[Showtime]

From what is being reported it is pretty much a sure thing he will sign with the Pats, but who knows.

[Mee]

Heh. Parcell's is gonna work for ESPN.

Should be interesting.

[Dark Donnie]

I still think he will Sign with the 49ers .

I read he agreed in principle with the Niners

Theres also reports that Nate Clements has signed with them as well

[Kaleb]

sweeet !!! niners are looking good :)

[kane9321]

if we get thomas and clements..oh my goodness

[C-$]

Heh. Parcell's is gonna work for ESPN.

Should be interesting.

So basically that means that Michael Irvin is gone from ESPN.

[Dark Donnie]

if we get thomas and clements..oh my goodness

it's not 100% but it is being reported

Also apparently Jake PLummer is retiring

[Mee]

Haha! Retiring?

lawl

[Kaleb]

So basically that means that Michael Irvin is gone from ESPN.
yeah Espn didnt renew his contract , they let him go a week after he was announced into the hall of fame

[The_Mystery]

You still have Tom Brady. You Patriots fans will be fine.

Well, Tom Brady without someone effective to throw it to, isn't worth much.

[Machx72]

Well, Tom Brady without someone effective to throw it to, isn't worth much.

... Did you not watch the entire 2006 season?

I'm not a Pats fan, but what you just said is practically blasphemy. He lost his top receivers this year, and was throwing to back-ups the entire year, and he made the freakin' second round of the playoffs.

[Cmill216]

Peyton Manning's hosting SNL on March 24th. :wow:

[LostSon88]

sweeet !!! niners are looking good :)

Indeed. I remember watching ESPN a few days back and Michael Smith believes that the Niners are one productive offseason away from becoming Superbowl contenders.

And considering we got 37mil under the cap, a young developing team, no Antonio Bryant/distraction, 8 picks in the draft...its hard to argue that sentiment. :woot:

[Immortalfire]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v456/kaleb007/MillionaireFisher.jpg :D

Don't post stuff like that again [/GR87]