2007 NFL Thread

[kane9321]

ed reed baby,,,,,that was easy. go ravens go

[LegendaryCaleb]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=knyMRGVSsE4

[Mister J]

Great. Now I want pizza.

[Fran]

E. Reed :D:down

[kane9321]

oh godamn what kind of playcall was that...3rd and 1 you pound the rock

[Fran]

Sharks suck! Take that! :cmad:

[Venom'sDad]

Now that's what I'm talking about. TD

[Mister J]

So McCown throws for over 300 yds and keeps Oakland in the game until the end and JaMarcus Russell agrees in principle the next day. Hmm. :o

I better not lose my Pick 'Em because of that silly ass 3rd and 1 call. :mad:

[NewYorkSpider]

It's called some scrub that turns on a switch in the post season and gets hot and wins it all.... (see Pittsburg or the Colts of last year...) but I really don't see that happening this year... those three teams will probably finish 1 2 3 in the AFC take your picks barring injury... I know they play each other and they may cancel each other out but I really doubt Denver will win the division and sneak into that 3 seed... and the North will beat up on each other up as well (division winner probably 11 wins max)... so if you are confident a four seed or lower can win TWO road games in the POST SEASON against two of those three teams you are out of your mind... and we all know what the NFC is all about... the NONentity football conference... and we saw that clearly displayed in week 1.

We didn't know what side of Randy Moss was going to show up in New England(Minnesota or Oakland). Clearly the one from Minnesota showed up and they looked good.

San Diego now has Norv Turner as the head coach. I still think they will have a 12 win season, but we damn well know things could go wrong.

Indianapolis I can't really argue. This team looked scary good. And if that defense can play like they did against one of the top offenses in the league, Colts fans better start planing a trip to Arizona.

Baltimore's only problem is injuries. They're old from offense to defense. I think they will hold up through the season and make a run into the playoffs.

I made my prediction before I seen these teams play, and if you ask me now who is going to the Super Bowl I will honestly say NE or IND.

[Jerry!]

Billick you fool.

[kane9321]

mcnair...makes rookie azz mistakes...that he shouldnt make

[StorminNorman]

Robert Geathers from The U!


of Georgia :ninja:

[Cmill216]

I liked Chad's jacket.

Not that disappointing. It's Week 1. Why would he blow his celebration load in the first game?

[StorminNorman]

Byron Leftwich on the phone with a Raven representative as we speak :o

[Mister J]

Goodness, McNair. :huh:

[Venom'sDad]

JaMarcus Russell agrees in principle the next day.

Ever since the new TV deal, which allows team to increase their cap, the Top Pick has been guarantee a minimum of $30million. He is a freakin QB, he deserve it, I would have held out too. Al f***ing Davis id ruining the team. You cannot pay every other top pick $30+ million dollars who is not a QB, which is the most important position on the field, and not guarantee Russell, who is a QB. Al Davis is full of ...... well you know. :dry:

[kane9321]

jesus christ mcnair...wtf is wrong with you

[NewYorkSpider]

edit

[Jerry!]

Ed Reed! Mercy!

Edit: Kyle Boller! Oh no!

[Fran]

Air McNair.

I guess the Titans proved him wrong by trading him. :huh:

[Mister J]

E. Reed again. :D :up:

[kane9321]

hello...ed reed

[Mister J]

Boller's in? :confused: :eek:

[Byrd Man]

Wow. How bad is it when you bring in Kyle Boller?

[Jerry!]

Getting sick of the dink and dunk offensive calling bull****.

[Mister J]

I know McNair's banged up (as always), but this might be the game right here. Can he not walk? :huh:

[kane9321]

mr mason ..1st

[Venom'sDad]

edit

$37.5 million guarantee

[kane9321]

bootleg...bootleg

[Venom'sDad]

It's 4 down territory.

[Jerry!]

Even if they get the TD, 2 minutes left with 2 time outs for the Bengals and Palmer.

[SurfDUI]

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/boxscore?game_id=29209&displayPage=tab_box_score&season=2007&week=REG1 (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/boxscore?game_id=29209&displayPage=tab_box_score&season=2007&week=REG1)

NFL Network.com has a great set-up for Monday Night scores when you can't see the game.

[Venom'sDad]

what a call.... two times

[Mister J]

Offensive pass interference?! WTF?

[Jerry!]

What a bull**** call.

[kane9321]

what the **** call was that....omg

[NewYorkSpider]

What a bull**** call.

Agreed.

[Jerry!]

Defensive Hold! MERCY! 1st down!

[Mister J]

This is crazy.

[kane9321]

can we watch my 49ers please

[Cmill216]

This is crazy.

This...is...Ocho!

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/941/chadjohnsonpicfn3.jpg






......I had to do it. :csad:

[Mister J]

If Baltimore can get in the end zone here, this craziness with the officiating works out for them because it lessens the time Cinci would have for the GW score.
This...is...Ocho!

......I had to do it.
Good Lord. Not the grill.

[Jerry!]

**** the Niners, the Ravens have to win. Actually double **** the Niners, Mike and Mike broadcasting that game? **** that.

[kane9321]

thank god for espn2

[Mister J]

Niners/Cards on the Deuce.

[Jerry!]

****!!! Just PUNCH IT IN!!

[Mister J]

What's the problem with running the ball? :huh:

[Venom'sDad]

WTF CinCI win Cinci win Cinci win

[Jerry!]

Billick for LVP of the game.

[kane9321]

**** the Niners, the Ravens have to win. Actually double **** the Niners, Mike and Mike broadcasting that game? **** that.


watch ya mouth son:cmad:

[Mister J]

Great pick by Myers. The Ravens still got jobbed on that Heap call in the end zone.

[Jerry!]

Why risk a pass? You're TWO YARDS OUT.

[Mister J]

Again, I say, what's the problem with running the ball? That McGahee guy is pretty good. :huh:

[Byrd Man]

Why risk a pass? You're TWO YARDS OUT.

Exactly. With playcalling like that, they deserve to lose.

[Cmill216]

Mike Greenberg sounds like s*** as a Play-by-Play.

[SurfDUI]

Mike Greenberg sounds like s*** as a Play-by-Play.

Yea, he only sounds like that everymorning

[Venom'sDad]

Again, I say, what's the problem with running the ball? That McGahee guy is pretty good. :huh:

Any team with McNair will always come up 1 yrd short....... remember the SuperBowl, TEN vs STL.....;)

[Mister J]

Niners with the vintage 80's jerseys. :up:
Any team with McNair will always come up 1 yrd short....... remember the SuperBowl, TEN vs STL.....
That was great.

[Jerry!]

Is that Ditka?

[Mister J]

Mike and Mike ...and Mike? :confused:

[Jerry!]

I'll take Ditka out of that bunch.

[Ben Urich]

Mike3

EDIT: You see what I'm trying to do, right? :o

[Mister J]

Let me take this time to mention how much I hate the Cardinals' XFL-looking uniforms. :down

[Venom'sDad]

Let me take this time to mention how much I hate the Cardinals' XFL-looking uniforms. :down

Yeah.... looks like the Cowboys XFL Blue & Whites.....;)

[Fran]

I like the Niners' vintage jerseys more than the current ones. They just go well with the pants :huh::o

[Ben Urich]

Let me take this time to mention how much I hate the Cardinals' XFL-looking uniforms. :down

Too much piping and paneling, man. :down

[Fran]

This Just In:

Mike Nolan is a pimp.

[SurfDUI]

YOU GO EDGE!!

[Venom'sDad]

Greeny sounds like he's giving play-by-play on the radio

[Fran]

God, just give Golic the mic and leave him on it.

[Its me Jesus]

That Official must have loathed Heap. Like Heap must have killed his dog or something.

That was NOT a penalty.

[Venom'sDad]

These guys are a pill..... ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


No wonder no one watched the AFL(Arena Football League)

[Jerry!]

Ditka had the best line so far.

Mike:Uh oh,l heres the ref going over to Nolan.
Ditka: Yeah he's asking Nolan "Hey can you guys can afford a penalty or not". I don't think so.

[Cmill216]

Terrible game...but it looks to have a great ending.

[StorminNorman]

Why did I sit Arnez Battle for Anthony Gonzales? WHHHHHHYYYY!

[StorminNorman]

Greeny sounds like he's giving play-by-play on the radio

Isn't that a good thing?

[kane9321]

49erfans unite.......our d looked good....offense needs some work....but it'll shore up as the season goes on....good win boys

[NewYorkSpider]

I wouldn't consider that a good win.

[The Riddler]

i'm so happy right now.

1-0.

niners = nfc west champs!

[Jerry!]

I wouldn't consider that a good win.

If its a dubuya, its good.

[NewYorkSpider]

If its a dubuya, its good.

I would consider that a win, not a good win.

[The Riddler]

I would consider that a win, not a good win.

there is no bad win.

a win is always a good win.

[NewYorkSpider]

there is no bad win.

a win is always a good win.

It was a mediocre win then. The 49ers are expected to battle for the division this season and they nearly lose their home opener to the Arizona Cardinals.

[Scar Predator]

49erfans unite.......our d looked good....offense needs some work....but it'll shore up as the season goes on....good win boys

The Secondary was great! It's been a long time since we could say that.

While the O didn't play well, in the clutch, Alex Smith was money, money! yeah yeah!

[Poetic Chaos]

Gotta love the Prevent defense.

Go Niners! 1 down, 19 to go.

[The Riddler]

It was a mediocre win then. The 49ers are expected to battle for the division this season and they nearly lose their home opener to the Arizona Cardinals.

we'll beat the rams and be 2-0 next week.

that's all i care about.

[The Riddler]

The Secondary was great! It's been a long time since we could say that.

While the O didn't play well, in the clutch, Alex Smith was money, money! yeah yeah!

venom, do you post on the niner boards?

[DBella]

Poor Cards. Please play badly next week. Thanks.

[LostSon88]

1 Down...many more to go.

An ugly win, but still a win.

GO NINERS!!!

:woot:

[Jerry!]

It was a mediocre win then. The 49ers are expected to battle for the division this season and they nearly lose their home opener to the Arizona Cardinals.

A win is a win is a win is a win.

[Ghostvirus]

So now there are 2 games on Monday nights? What the hell. What was wrong with games on Sunday, One Game on Monday, & A game on Thanksgiving?

[Scar Predator]

venom, do you post on the niner boards?

Yes indeed! Do you?

[Scar Predator]

So now there are 2 games on Monday nights? What the hell. What was wrong with games on Sunday, One Game on Monday, & A game on Thanksgiving?

I don't think it's every monday night but I'm all for as many NFL games being on TV as possible.

[Jerry!]

I think it was just because it was the opening night for Monday Night Football. At least I hope its just because of that. Hearing Mike and Mike do commentary makes my ears bleed. Spelling Bee, whatever. AFL, no one gives a ****. But MNF? ESPN couldn't get ANYONE else?

[SurfDUI]

So now there are 2 games on Monday nights? What the hell. What was wrong with games on Sunday, One Game on Monday, & A game on Thanksgiving?


No, keep up man. Last year was the first season of MNF on ESPN:cmad: . In Overblown ESPN fashion they started the NFL Kickoff weekend w/ 2 MNF games. Last year Oakland kicked off, and I don't remember the second game. This is strictly a Kickoff weekend deal.

You still have 'games on Sunday', just now you'll likely get 3 network broadcast games on over the air T.V. -a double header on CBS or FOX, or one of each and the Al and John game on NBC.

Several years ago half way through the middle of the season the NFL tried to have Thurs. night games, one game. But it went away, until last season when the NFL Network kicked off it's weekly Thurs. games, w/ Collinsworth:whatever: :cmad: and Gumble:whatever: :cmad: .

And on THanksgiving you know have 3:woot: games. Last season was the sencond year of that, and they'll do it again this year.

[The Riddler]

Yes indeed! Do you?

yes, i do.

i presume your username over there is 'venom'?

[Memphis Slim]

The Arizona Cards......dang.:wow: They keep snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

[Trainwreck2100]

The Arizona Cards......dang.:wow: They keep snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.


sweet memories
ECTt67adObI

[Memphis Slim]

Well well well........ :woot:


By Chris Mortensen
ESPN.com

NFL security confiscated a video camera and its tape from a New England Patriots employee on the team's sideline during Sunday's game against the Jets in a suspected spying incident, sources said.

"It's not their first time," a member of the committee, who did not wish to be identified, said.

In fact, Green Bay Packers president Bob Harlan confirmed a similar incident that occurred when the Patriots played at Lambeau Field last Nov. 19. The same cameraman who was questioned by NFL security on Sunday was also the one whom the Packers removed from the sideline and escorted from the field during their 2006 game, according to Packers security official Doug Collins.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3012989 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3012989)

[Memphis Slim]

Patriots caught allegedly taping Jets' coaches

BY RICH CIMINI
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER



The border has never ceased to provide intrigue.
The latest chapter in the Jets-Patriots rivalry unfolded Sunday at the Meadowlands, where a Patriots employee was nabbed in an alleged spying incident. Sources said the NFL is investigating whether the employee illegally videotaped the Jets' coaches on the sideline, presumably in an attempt to steal hand signals that were relayed to the defense.
League security confiscated a video camera and tape, ESPN reported. The findings will be evaluated by the competition committee. The story was first reported by Jets Confidential on its Web site.
Eric Mangini declined to comment on the matter, except to say, "With anything along those lines, those are all league-related matters."
The Patriots declined comment.
According to the NFL rule, no video recording devices are permitted in the coaches' booth, on the field or in the locker room during a game. In this case, the cameraman was on the field.
"Clubs have specifically been reminded in the past that the videotaping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals on the sidelines is prohibited," league spokesman Greg Aiello said.
The Patriots were accused of the same practice last Nov. 16 at Lambeau Field. It was the same cameraman in both incidents, Packers president Bob Harlan told ESPN.
In the Jets' case, the cameraman was spotted by Jets security chief Steve Yarnell, who notified league security. The Patriots could be punished by the league if found guilty of cheating. The penalty could be a fine or a draft pick.
Several Jets noted after the 38-14 loss that the Patriots did a terrific job of handling their blitzes and various schemes. "(Tom Brady) seemed like he knew what we were doing," safety Kerry Rhodes said.

[Memphis Slim]

Bill Belichek
http://bibleforums.org/forum/images/aux-s/13Dunno.gif

[DeaDheaD]

The Jets set him up, they need to learn to just tell Slick Willie what they are doin do he doesnt break the rules.

[kane9321]

I wouldn't consider that a good win.

its a w...its a good win:woot:

[Immortalfire]

Here is a highly-unofficial survey, ranking team cities for their tailgate friendliness (32 cities, if you count Los Angeles, which is in the running to replace the Rams with a new team.) It was conducted by KVH Industries, DirecTV and ‘various tailgating experts who have personally visited and ranked every NFL stadium, including www.tailgating.com’s Joe Cahn and the creators of the ‘Ultimate Sports Road Trip,’ according to the online press release. So-called criteria includes ‘analysis of stadium parking lots, overall tailgating environment, fan enthusiasm and the sales of tailgating accessories like in-car live TV and mobile programming.’


1 — Baltimore
2 — Denver
3 — Houston
4 — San Diego
5 — Cincinnati
6 — Miami
7 — Tampa
8 — Kansas City
9 — Buffalo
10 — Philadelphia / Phoenix (tied)
12 — Washington, D.C.
13 — Green Bay
14 — Jacksonville
15 — Oakland
16 — Indianapolis
17 — Nashville
18 — New York / Pittsburgh / Foxborough (tied)
21 — San Francisco
22 — Cleveland
23 — Charlotte
24 — Los Angeles* (L.A. is listed as an NFL candidate city, not a franchise city)
25 — Minneapolis
26 — Dallas
27 — Chicago
28 — Atlanta
29 — New Orleans
30 — St. Louis
31 — Detroit
32 — Seattle

I call bull on some of these positions. :down

[Mister J]

You think Cleveland and Dallas would be much higher. And Texans fans at #3? Puh-leese.

[Dark Donnie]

Here is a highly-unofficial survey, ranking team cities for their tailgate friendliness (32 cities, if you count Los Angeles, which is in the running to replace the Rams with a new team.) It was conducted by KVH Industries, DirecTV and ‘various tailgating experts who have personally visited and ranked every NFL stadium, including www.tailgating.com’s Joe Cahn and the creators of the ‘Ultimate Sports Road Trip,’ according to the online press release. So-called criteria includes ‘analysis of stadium parking lots, overall tailgating environment, fan enthusiasm and the sales of tailgating accessories like in-car live TV and mobile programming.’


1 — Baltimore
2 — Denver
3 — Houston
4 — San Diego
5 — Cincinnati
6 — Miami
7 — Tampa
8 — Kansas City
9 — Buffalo
10 — Philadelphia / Phoenix (tied)
12 — Washington, D.C.
13 — Green Bay
14 — Jacksonville
15 — Oakland
16 — Indianapolis
17 — Nashville
18 — New York / Pittsburgh / Foxborough (tied)
21 — San Francisco
22 — Cleveland
23 — Charlotte
24 — Los Angeles* (L.A. is listed as an NFL candidate city, not a franchise city)
25 — Minneapolis
26 — Dallas
27 — Chicago
28 — Atlanta
29 — New Orleans
30 — St. Louis
31 — Detroit
32 — Seattle

I call bull on some of these positions. :down

Which Ones?

Philly should be higher :)

[Immortalfire]

Offhand, I'd think Green Bay would be #1.

[DeaDheaD]

Chicago should be higher

[Dark Donnie]

I would have thought KC would be 1

[Hole Shot]

San Diego should be lower, we f***ing hate you people.



On a happy note. The Patriots are being disrespected right now! How can anyone accuse a team of cheating when we all the know the reason that they win is their moral superiority?

[Excel]

"(Tom Brady) seemed like he knew what we were doing," safety Kerry Rhodes said.

Really, that explains why he line mauled you when Maroney ran the ball, right? :whatever:

[kane9321]

bunch of patriot haters in the world...wonder why?...go pats go

[eat aliens]

Patriots caught allegedly taping Jets' coaches

BY RICH CIMINI
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER



The border has never ceased to provide intrigue.
The latest chapter in the Jets-Patriots rivalry unfolded Sunday at the Meadowlands, where a Patriots employee was nabbed in an alleged spying incident. Sources said the NFL is investigating whether the employee illegally videotaped the Jets' coaches on the sideline, presumably in an attempt to steal hand signals that were relayed to the defense.
League security confiscated a video camera and tape, ESPN reported. The findings will be evaluated by the competition committee. The story was first reported by Jets Confidential on its Web site.
Eric Mangini declined to comment on the matter, except to say, "With anything along those lines, those are all league-related matters."
The Patriots declined comment.
According to the NFL rule, no video recording devices are permitted in the coaches' booth, on the field or in the locker room during a game. In this case, the cameraman was on the field.
"Clubs have specifically been reminded in the past that the videotaping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals on the sidelines is prohibited," league spokesman Greg Aiello said.
The Patriots were accused of the same practice last Nov. 16 at Lambeau Field. It was the same cameraman in both incidents, Packers president Bob Harlan told ESPN.
In the Jets' case, the cameraman was spotted by Jets security chief Steve Yarnell, who notified league security. The Patriots could be punished by the league if found guilty of cheating. The penalty could be a fine or a draft pick.
Several Jets noted after the 38-14 loss that the Patriots did a terrific job of handling their blitzes and various schemes. "(Tom Brady) seemed like he knew what we were doing," safety Kerry Rhodes said.

Do you really think the Patriots would try this against a team with several former members of their coaching staff?
Even if the Pats were looking to cheat, why would they do it so blatantly?
Not to mention, that the Pats are superior to the Jets in every way, and dominated that game from kickoff.
If BB & co are found guilty of this, they deserve whatever punishment they get. But at this point I think this story is a load of bull.

[Immortalfire]

This reminds me of Frank Beamer accusing Georgia of spying on VT's practices before the Chick-fil-a Bowl :whatever:

[Hole Shot]

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/football/patriots/view.bg?articleid=1030707

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20715148/

[DeaDheaD]

Thats how the Pats get players to take pay-cuts, they give them spy gear :ninja:

[Cmill216]

http://www.wtam.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=122520&article=2624000


WTAM 1100, the Browns' flagship station, is reporting that Charlie Frye will be traded or released this week.

From starter to deposed in two days. The Browns are probably doing Frye a favor at this point by giving him a fresh start. Atlanta, Minnesota, Tampa, and Kansas City all make sense as possible destinations. Derek Anderson looks like the favorite to start in Cleveland until Brady Quinn is ready.

[DeaDheaD]

Atlanta needs him, he could still be good.

[Dark Donnie]

How many damn QB's does TB need?

[Cmill216]

It's a throwaway line by Roto. Tampa's not interested in Charlie Frye. I can guarantee that.

[Hole Shot]

Here, I got Madden's telestrator to give you the breakdown of New England's offensive gameplanning

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6100/nejetscameraac3.jpg

[Memphis Slim]

Do you really think the Patriots would try this against a team with several former members of their coaching staff?
Even if the Pats were looking to cheat, why would they do it so blatantly?
Not to mention, that the Pats are superior to the Jets in every way, and dominated that game from kickoff.
If BB & co are found guilty of this, they deserve whatever punishment they get. But at this point I think this story is a load of bull.


I know that Brady and Bellichek could be booked for armed robbery and the apologists would say they had a good reason.

Who knows why people do irrational things? Why did Martha Stewart take that stock info that would only have saved 50,000 dollars? Martha didn't need that money. She was financially superior to most people in the world. It made no sense. But she did it anyway. I think it's greed and naked ambition. And we've seen Bill can't handle losing very well. No class.

If they are found guilty they should:

1. Reverse that win on Sunday. Give it to the Jets.
2. Be fined heavily
3. Lose a bid in the first round next year.

[DeaDheaD]

Here, I got Madden's telestrator to give you the breakdown of the New Englands offensive gameplanning

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6100/nejetscameraac3.jpg
Looks like Tom's holding himself front and back :eek:

[Hole Shot]

If they are found guilty they should:

1. Reverse that win on Sunday. Give it to the Jets.
2. Be fined heavily
3. Lose a bid in the first round next year.


The punishment is likely going to be the loss of draft picks, probably a third.


...and the NFL will feel bad and grant them two third round compensatory in return.

[Cmill216]

Charlie Frye is a Seahawk. That didn't take long.

[strikezone89]

anyone else see the colts kick some arse???

[Addendum]

Who? :woot:

[Memphis Slim]

Charlie Frye is a Seahawk. That didn't take long.


And Leftwich is still unemployed???

[Immortalfire]

Here, I got Madden's telestrator to give you the breakdown of New England's offensive gameplanning

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6100/nejetscameraac3.jpg

Evidence! Dirty thieves! :cmad:

[FaT_tONle]

The Pats are frauds... Belicheck serious needs to get a life... all he wants to do is get every advantage he can to beat the Jets... he hates the Jets more than any other franchise... it doesn't suprise me one bit that he cheated just to own Mangini a little more... and then there he is with two minutes left in the game running play action plays when his team is up seventeen just to run up the score.... it's called spending time with kids and family Bill... this is football... not freaking World War 2... and Mangini is no better... his team is a fluke and a bunch of wannabe's... Jets are even a bigger joke...

On a side note... God I love that Merriman/Jackson comercial with the music from Last of the Mohicans... would watch that a hundred times straight on my 72 inch high def...

[Cracker Jack]

Here is a highly-unofficial survey, ranking team cities for their tailgate friendliness

27 — Chicago

I call bull on some of these positions. :down


WHAT!!!! I call that a bunch of crap.

[Hole Shot]

Evidence! Dirty thieves! :cmad:

Read the articles I posted. That was the guy!

[StorminNorman]

I can't wait to see Lorenzon with a starting job in the NFL.

http://valboard.ipbfree.com/uploads/ipbfree.com/valboard/emo-24.gif

[Hole Shot]

I can't wait to see Lorenzon with a starting job in the NFL.

http://valboard.ipbfree.com/uploads/ipbfree.com/valboard/emo-24.gif


The hilarious part is that unlike Manning, Lorenzen has some actual fire for the game, so if he ends winning games (which will be all him because their D sucks) the Giants fans might Lynch Coughlin if Manning gets his job back.

[Immortalfire]

I can't wait to see Lorenzon with a starting job in the NFL.

http://valboard.ipbfree.com/uploads/ipbfree.com/valboard/emo-24.gif

He'll take more Twinkie breaks than Phillip Fulmer.

[Addendum]

He'll take more Twinkie breaks than Phillip Fulmer.

"I thought you guys just ate donuts"

[LegendaryCaleb]

Lions undefeated this year...dont deny it...the signs are all around

[Memphis Slim]

The hilarious part is that unlike Manning, Lorenzen has some actual fire for the game, so if he ends winning games (which will be all him because their D sucks) the Giants fans might Lynch Coughlin if Manning gets his job back.


So you're saying Tiki Barber had a point about Manning? :whatever:

http://www.bodycandy.com/mas_assets/thumb/BUCK-532.jpg
Lorenzen :woot:

[StorminNorman]

The hilarious part is that unlike Manning, Lorenzen has some actual fire for the game, so if he ends winning games (which will be all him because their D sucks) the Giants fans might Lynch Coughlin if Manning gets his job back.

Don't give me that crap - Eli has plenty of fire, he came back into the game and played with a separated shoulder.

Really, what an idiotic thing to say :up:

[KALEL114]

Report: Browns trade QB Frye to Seahawks

September 11, 2007
LOS ANGELES (Ticker) - Cleveland Browns quarterback Charlie Frye on Tuesday was traded to the Seattle Seahawks for a sixth-round pick, according to a report on FOXSports.com.

Frye was yanked in the second quarter of Sunday's season-opening 34-7 loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers. He had completed just 4-of-10 passes and was sacked five times.

Frye's replacement, Derek Anderson, was not much better, finishing 13-of-28 with one touchdown, one interception and a fumble.

The move likely elevates rookie quarterback Brady Quinn, the 22nd overall pick, into at least the backup role in Cleveland. The Browns also will re-sign Ken Dorsey, who was with the club's third quarterback during the preseason.

According to the report, Frye will step into the backup role behind Matt Hasselbeck in Seattle.

A third-round pick out of Akron in 2005, Frye passed for 2,454 yards in 13 games for the Browns in 2006, throwing 10 touchdown passes and 17 interceptions.

That would allow the Seahawks to move current backup Seneca Wallace to wide receiver, adding depth to a position that was weakened when starting wideout D.J. Hackett suffered a high ankle sprain on Sunday.

The Seahawks (1-0) play at Arizona on Sunday.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AuM4bN1e1PWwtxn8nMt0hWFDubYF?slug=txfrye trade&prov=st&type=lgns

[Hole Shot]

Don't give me that crap - Eli has plenty of fire, he came back into the game and played with a separated shoulder.

Really, what an idiotic thing to say :up:

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/8817/eli01oh8.jpg

[StorminNorman]

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/8817/eli01oh8.jpg

Your rebuttal is flawless.

[Hole Shot]

Your rebuttal is flawless.

it takes effort

[Hole Shot]

Breaking news....

ASSOCIATED PRESS - Bill Belicheck, responding to allegations that he and his team conspired to illegally video tape the defensive signals of the NY Jets, has claimed innocence. "This is all a misunderstanding," the erstwhile Belicheck said from deep within his hoodie, "we were just taking pictures to make one of those fathead thingys of Eric Mangini. His birthday is coming up and I thought it would be a nice surprise." Tom Brady was unavailable for comment, reportedly because he was leading a players-only meeting to discuss the way the media and other NFL teams disrespect the Patriots. Peter King of SI was seen eating several donuts near by and had this to say, "I would have Tom Brady's baby any time he wants. Oh, and the Colts cheat! They can't beat Tom straight up, so they have to have cheated! Peyton! I hate you!"

[DeaDheaD]

Lions undefeated this year...dont deny it...the signs are all around
http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/confused/confused0068.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/freesmiley.php?smiley=confused/confused0068.gif) Thats crazy talk there.

[Showtime]

No wonder the Patriots won 3 Superbowls, they were cheating!

[Hole Shot]

yes

[Immortalfire]

No wonder the Patriots won 3 Superbowls, they were cheating!

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040512/040512_kurtWarner_vmed_11pA.vmedium.jpghttp://naproom.mu.nu/pics/Donovan%20Mcnabb.jpghttp://www.safsrbija.com/cute/data/upimages/delhomme_jake_qb2.jpg

Thieves...dirty thieves! They stole our championships..and we wants them!

[Hole Shot]

Actually, I thought the Patriots haven't won 3 of the last 6 Superbowls was because of that dreaded Boston curse. They get no respect.

[Ben Urich]

Charlie Frye went from leading Cleveland's offense to holding Seneca Wallace's clipboard in a big hurry. :dry:

[Immortalfire]

Charlie Frye went from leading Cleveland's offense to holding Seneca Wallace's clipboard in a big hurry. :dry:

LoL

[StorminNorman]

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040512/040512_kurtWarner_vmed_11pA.vmedium.jpghttp://naproom.mu.nu/pics/Donovan%20Mcnabb.jpghttp://www.safsrbija.com/cute/data/upimages/delhomme_jake_qb2.jpg

Thieves...dirty thieves! They stole our championships..and we wants them!

Well it is well known that Marshall Faulk was held on nearly every single play by that Patriots D in Superbowl XXXVI :o

[StorminNorman]

God John Clayton looks worse than normal. :down

[Fran]

Wow, the NFC West just got much more tough. :csad:

[SurfDUI]

anyone else see the colts kick some arse???


Yes, even if they did begrudgingly . I look for it to continue all season long.:woot:

[SurfDUI]

No wonder the Patriots won 3 Superbowls, they were cheating!


HELLOOO!!!:dry: No Shrt-Anybody remember a 'fake' injury time out, 3 seasons ago in the Dome. 4th and goal to Edgerin!!

This Sunday night game of the week I look for them to try and pass of 12 players at the line gainst the MVP.

[Fran]

If the Pats cheated during their first SB victory against the Rams, Showtime, I'll have your head on a silver platter! :cmad:

[Matt]

Breaking news....

ASSOCIATED PRESS - Bill Belicheck, responding to allegations that he and his team conspired to illegally video tape the defensive signals of the NY Jets, has claimed innocence. "This is all a misunderstanding," the erstwhile Belicheck said from deep within his hoodie, "we were just taking pictures to make one of those fathead thingys of Eric Mangini. His birthday is coming up and I thought it would be a nice surprise." Tom Brady was unavailable for comment, reportedly because he was leading a players-only meeting to discuss the way the media and other NFL teams disrespect the Patriots. Peter King of SI was seen eating several donuts near by and had this to say, "I would have Tom Brady's baby any time he wants. Oh, and the Colts cheat! They can't beat Tom straight up, so they have to have cheated! Peyton! I hate you!"

That would actually be funny if it was...y'know, clever...or witty...or funny...but being as a chimp could've come up with it... :cwink:

[Cmill216]

I'm surprised the Rams didn't choke on their own smog of arrogance in that game.

[Fran]

I'm surprised the Rams didn't choke on their own smog of arrogance in that game.

Yeah. I remember the Rams players being introduced individually, and the Pats coming out just as "The New England Patriots."

Damn.

[Dark Donnie]

They only stole defensive signals correct?

[bored]

Lions undefeated this year...dont deny it...the signs are all around

Yes, they ARE undefeated this year. How nice for them.

[Memphis Slim]

No wonder the Patriots won 3 Superbowls, they were cheating!


Like it or not, it's a possibility that they could have been cheating. A lot of stuff is tainted at this point. How legit were some of those wins???

[Hole Shot]

That would actually be funny if it was...y'know, clever...or witty...or funny...but being as a chimp could've come up with it... :cwink:

kung fu chimp! get it right! and cut me some slack, I ran out material way back at the trainwreck post.

[Cmill216]

Like it or not, it's a possibility that they could have been cheating. A lot of stuff is tainted at this point. How legit were some of those wins???

I hear Peyton Manning did a rain dance in the week before Super Bowl XLI.

[FaT_tONle]

Wow, the NFC West just got much more tough. :csad:

Except for your Rams... man was I off on that... Pace is done... and the defense still stinks... I was hoping the Rams of old would be a factor again... but it could be a dreadful season... better edit those pre season picks :yay:

[strikezone89]

go colts

[Badger]

Like it or not, it's a possibility that they could have been cheating. A lot of stuff is tainted at this point. How legit were some of those wins???

Better question, how legit is all the Colts wins from last year? Clearly the NFL wanted their poster boy to get a Super Bowl Ring. :o :dry:

[FaT_tONle]

Yeah. I remember the Rams players being introduced individually, and the Pats coming out just as "The New England Patriots."

Damn.

My favorite part of the Super Bowl was having the individual starters announced one at a time... the whole all for one has played itself out... I am tired of it.

[Hole Shot]

go colts


We got it, you like the Colts, right?

[Matt]

Like it or not, it's a possibility that they could have been cheating. A lot of stuff is tainted at this point. How legit were some of those wins???

Please celldog, you're throwing those accusations around based on one Jets coach's claim with no evidence to back it up. For all you know the Colts could've been cheating? See how easy it is to make baseless accusations?

[Badger]

My favorite part of the Super Bowl was having the individual starters announced one at a time... the whole all for one has played itself out... I am tired of it.

Yes, because playing as a team is so overrated. :o

[Matt]

Better question, how legit is all the Colts wins from last year? Clearly the NFL wanted their poster boy to get a Super Bowl Ring. :o :dry:

If you need proof of that, look no further than the 2005/2006 play off game with the Steelers. Archie Manning never reffed a better game :cwink:

[Kaleb]

The Giants have contacted the Bucs about Chris Simms

[Kaleb]

Roger has acknowledlged that the pats cheated lol , but hasnt made a desision yet and is going to hear the pats side of the story.

[KALEL114]

I say take draft picks from them.

[Kaleb]

YES!!!! The Dr that was treating Kevin Everett said he is going to walk again , omg Im so happy.

[Kaleb]

I say take draft picks from them. I agree, I would say a 2nd round pick

[Badger]

YES!!!! The Dr that was treating Kevin Everett said he is going to walk again , omg Im so happy.

Truly is good news. :up:

[Johnny Blaze]

The Giants have contacted the Bucs about Chris Simms

Sweet. Here comes another late round pick that we'll waste. :up:

Roger has acknowledlged that the pats cheated lol , but hasnt made a desision yet and is going to hear the pats side of the story.
I want them to make Dirty Bill stand before the tribunal from Superman and then get banished to the Phantom Zone (a.k.a. the CFL).

GUILTY! :cmad:

[Immortalfire]

YES!!!! The Dr that was treating Kevin Everett said he is going to walk again , omg Im so happy.

Praise the Lord, that's excellent :up:

[Hole Shot]

I say take draft picks from them.


What is that going to teach a team that's already loaded?



Good to hear about Everett, scary situation.

[Dark Donnie]

YES!!!! The Dr that was treating Kevin Everett said he is going to walk again , omg Im so happy.

Where did you read/see that...I haven't seen an update?

[Kaleb]

What is that going to teach a team that's already loaded?



Good to hear about Everett, scary situation.
Losing a top draft pick is very bad for a team, regardless if you are loaded or not, it may not effect them straight away but it will hit them down the road.

[Kaleb]

Where did you read/see that...I haven't seen an update?

they just interviewed the Dr on espn news, and he said he is very optimistic that he will walk out of the hospital .

[KALEL114]

What is that going to teach a team that's already loaded?



Good to hear about Everett, scary situation.

Use them as an example to other teams.

2nd round sounds good, Kaleb.

[Hole Shot]

Losing a top draft pick is very bad for a team, regardless if you are loaded or not, it may not effect them straight away but it will hit them down the road.

They're likely going to pick late in the rounds, they can trade up if there really is a player they covet. Plus the loss of the pick will go unnoticed to the general public. It happened this season, it should effect this season, suspend the Hoodie!!! But not until after this Sunday.

And take away a draft pick.


Or I'll take forfeiture of the game.

[rdh007]

Have they proven these guys did it? Has anyone else been investigated? Just curious, seems a bit witchhunty to me.

[Kaleb]

Go to espn.com and vote what roger should do

[Hole Shot]

Have they proven these guys did it? Has anyone else been investigated? Just curious, seems a bit witchhunty to me.

The confiscated the video tape.

[Kaleb]

Have they proven these guys did it? Has anyone else been investigated? Just curious, seems a bit witchhunty to me.

Yes Roger viewed the tape, and is now going to hear the pats side of the story.

[Ben Urich]

Go to espn.com and vote what roger should do

45% say the Patriots should have to forfeit the win. :wow:
That's what I voted for. :o

[Kaleb]

PATS GUILTY OF CHEATING

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has concluded that the New England Patriots violated league rules when videotaping defensive signals being sent in from the sidelines by Jets coaches during Sunday's game at the Meadowlands.

NFL Security confiscated a camera and videotape from Pats employee Matt Estrella, a video assistant. Mort says that the evidence that was confiscated confirmed the suspicion.

And the punishment could be severe.

Mortensen reports that Goodell is considering the possibility of stripping the team of "multiple draft picks," given that he has issued a stern warning to all teams to avoid such behavior.

We'll echo what we said below about Claude Wroten and anyone who tests positive at the scouting combine. In this case, the persons responsible for doing this are either stupid, or they have a serious problem.

The Patriots previously had been linked to such behavior. And yet they kept on doing it.

Former defensive coordinator Eric Mangini is now the head coach of the Jets, and likely knew a thing or two about these practices in New England. And yet they kept on doing it.

In fact, we're told by a very good source that, when the Packers caught a Pats employee doing the same thing last season, the Packers knew exactly what to look for, and nailed the guy in the act. The Packers didn't press the issue only because they lost the game 35-0, and didn't want to complain under those circumstances.

The Pats' habits in this regard were so well known that, per the same source, Colts president Bill Polian had all on-field cameras removed for the 2006 AFC championship game.

Thus, the Patriots knew that other people know what was happening. And yet they kept on doing it.

If all of this is true, it reflects a dangerous amount of arrogance in that team's coaching staff. In fact, our guess is that, now that the poo has hit the propeller, whoever put this system in place will privately justify it after the fact by explaining that, in the end, the cost was far less than the benefits that have been derived.

And it makes us -- and likely many others -- wonder how far back all of this goes. How many Lombardis are potentially tainted? How many of the games during that record-setting winning streak?

Regardless of the lost draft picks, which mean much less in the salary cap era than they used to, there's now a stain on the NFL first dynasty of the new century. How far it spreads and how deep it goes remains to be seen.

[Kaleb]

WVCB in Boston reports that Pats coach Bill Belichick has been summoned to New York by Commissioner Roger Goodell to answer questions regarding allegations that the Patriots were stealing defensive signals on Sunday against the Jets.

WEEI in Boston reports that the Patriots deny the WVCB report.

Either way, this issue is generating all sorts of buzz in league and media circles. Though it could be driven by the perception that the Patriots are the top organization in the league and the other 31 franchises would love to seem them take a fall, there's just too much smoke on this one to disregard it.

Still, we doubt that the Pats are the only team stealing signals, if the final decision is that they are or have been. Multiple readers have told us that the Eagles were taking great pains to shield their own defensive signals from prying eyes against the Packers, which suggests that this could be a fairly common thing.

[Immortalfire]

http://www.orlyowl.com/osnap.jpg

[Advanced Dark]

http://www.nfl.com/partner?partnerType=players-air-and-ground

Place your votes.

I voted for Romo and Chris Brown. How can you go against Brown on the ground game?

[Fran]

The Patriots have to forfeit their Super Bowl Victory against the Rams!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3014698

[Kaleb]

http://www.nfl.com/partner?partnerType=players-air-and-ground

Place your votes.

I voted for Romo and Chris Brown. How can you go against Brown on the ground game?

I voted Brown and Romo, ( Brady and the pats cheated, and Ben was facing the Jawas )

[Rezzo]

It´s no big deal what the Pats did, it´s not like they are the only team that has cheated before. Sure cheating is bad, but is the NFL honestly a cheat free league?

[Hole Shot]

It´s no big deal what the Pats did, it´s not like they are the only team that has cheated before. Sure cheating is bad, but is the NFL honestly a cheat free league?

But they were caught right? When one player gets caught cheating by using a performance enhancing drug, is he not suspended? One doped up player on the field is not nearly as advantageous as knowing the opponents play call.

[Kaleb]

It´s no big deal what the Pats did, it´s not like they are the only team that has cheated before. Sure cheating is bad, but is the NFL honestly a cheat free league?

yes , but what is significant about this is that it is the pats that did this.

[Super_Ludacris]

lol@ Browns putting Brady Quinn on the fast track...

[Rezzo]

yes , but what is significant about this is that it is the pats that did this.

Every team in the league tries to get an advantage over it´s opponent so it´s really not shocking to hear about this. There´s probably other teams that have done similar things, but have yet to be caught

[Kaleb]

Every team in the league tries to get an advantage over it´s opponent so it´s really not shocking to hear about this. There´s probably other teams that have done similar things, but have yet to be caught

what I find amusing is that the guy who got caugh was wearing a pats jersey, badge and cap and he was standing right by the sideline I men how dumb can you be to wear that stuff ( esp when you were caught before video taping the packers). and video tape at the jets sideline .

[Mister J]

What NE did was definitely wrong and it should cost them some draft picks, but that's about it. I can't stand the bastards either, but people are acting like they had the fix in and questioning how legit some of their wins are. Come on. It takes more than stealing some signs to kick all that booty the Patriots have over the years. Fine 'em, take a couple of picks and move on to rooting against their mangy hides next week.


Just some follow-up about the good news on Everett.

Doctor Says Everett Has Voluntary Movement of Arms and Legs (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3014742)

[Ghostvirus]

What did the Pats do?

[Hole Shot]

What NE did was definitely wrong and it should cost them some draft picks, but that's about it. I can't stand the bastards either, but people are acting like they had the fix in and questioning how legit some of their wins are. Come on. It takes more than stealing some signs to kick all that booty the Patriots have over the years. Fine 'em, take a couple of picks and move on to rooting against their mangy hides next week.

I'm still bitter as all hell about our playoff loss to them in January. Do I think if I had confirmation whether or not they were stealing signals it would have made a damn bit a difference? Not really. We had a blowout on our hands but stupid drops by our WR's and ridiculous brain farts by our secondary kept New England in the game.

Am I still finding a bit of pleasure in this whole being caught cheating situation? HELL YES! It's the Patriots.

[Showtime]

There is no way the Patriots won all these Superbowls without stealing signals. Yep, they've beend doing it for years.

Sarcasm.

[Venom'sDad]

What did the Pats do?

They influenced the referee to institute the "Tuck Rule". :mad:

[Johnny Blaze]

Those dirty, commie bastards! I always had a feeling that Belichick was the reincarnation of Stalin. This just cements it. :cmad:

[Kaleb]

RAVENS FEAR LEWIS, OGDEN LOST FOR YEAR

A league source tells us that there is concern within the Baltimore Ravens organization that linebacker Ray Lewis or left tackle Jonathan Ogden, or both, are potentially lost for the year with injuries suffered on Monday night in Cincinnati.

The fact that the Ravens are being tight-lipped about the status of Lewis and Ogden is fueling the belief that the situation might be serious. As we understand it, information regarding the status of Lewis and Ogden is also scarce within the building.

It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out that the Hall of Famers, both of whom were selected in the first round of the 1996 draft, could be seriously hurt. It took Odgen months to recover from a toe injury, and it looks like all of the progress was undone in less than one half of football. As to Lewis, he'll definitely be willing to play with one arm, but he could very well be shut down based on the outcome of an MRI that was conducted on Tuesday.

In Ogden's case, a season-ending injury could also be career-ending. He contemplated retirement after the 2006 season, and would likely be sorely tempted to call it quits in lieu of enduring more rehab and preparation for 2008.



:( this is devistating if its true

[SurfDUI]

There is no way the Patriots won all these Superbowls without stealing signals. Yep, they've beend doing it for years.

Sarcasm.

There is no way the Patriots won 2 of their Superbowls without some blatant disrespect of the rules. Yep, they've been doing it for years.

Lack of Sarcasm.

[Showtime]

There is no way the Patriots won 2 of their Superbowls without some blatant disrespect of the rules. Yep, they've been doing it for years.

Lack of Sarcasm.

Yeah, they cheated their way too the top. :whatever:

[The_Mystery]

Y'know, if they destroy the Chargers this Sunday the way they beat the Jets, all you Chargers fans will start screaming "cheater." No one said bull when the flippin' Dolphins cheated last year and held the Pats to a scoreless loss. You really think the Dolphins could have done that without cheating?! Oh right, no one cares about that team, but there is so much hate for the Pats cause we win. SCREW ALL YOU HATERS!!!

Yeah...I'm alittle mad. So what?

[Showtime]

When did the Dolphins cheat?

[Memphis Slim]

I hear Peyton Manning did a rain dance in the week before Super Bowl XLI.


Funny.

Why would he create conditions that were suppose to be harmful to a dome team?

[Jerry!]

RAVENS FEAR LEWIS, OGDEN LOST FOR YEAR

A league source tells us that there is concern within the Baltimore Ravens organization that linebacker Ray Lewis or left tackle Jonathan Ogden, or both, are potentially lost for the year with injuries suffered on Monday night in Cincinnati.

The fact that the Ravens are being tight-lipped about the status of Lewis and Ogden is fueling the belief that the situation might be serious. As we understand it, information regarding the status of Lewis and Ogden is also scarce within the building.

It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out that the Hall of Famers, both of whom were selected in the first round of the 1996 draft, could be seriously hurt. It took Odgen months to recover from a toe injury, and it looks like all of the progress was undone in less than one half of football. As to Lewis, he'll definitely be willing to play with one arm, but he could very well be shut down based on the outcome of an MRI that was conducted on Tuesday.

In Ogden's case, a season-ending injury could also be career-ending. He contemplated retirement after the 2006 season, and would likely be sorely tempted to call it quits in lieu of enduring more rehab and preparation for 2008.



:( this is devistating if its true

Mercy...
Thats more devastating if you ask me.

[Showtime]

What the hell is a rocket surgeon?

http://www.dcfp.navy.mil/database/040614-N-3874J-001.jpg

[The_Mystery]

When did the Dolphins cheat?

It was last season, the Pats lost to them in a scoreless blowout. Then it was revealed that they had aquired footage so they could know what plays the Pats ran and their names (forgive me if I'm telling the story right, it was awhile ago). There was one story on it and that was it. Even if they are guilty, no amount of cheating could accomplish what happened in that game. The Pats were just a better team. Hell, the Jets weren't doing too bad, until Pennington got hurt. To me this just seems like bad sportsmanship. The Packers handled this the right way. If the Jets had won, would they have reported anything? Nope, the would have been happy with their win and went on to the next game. They lost, so "obviously" there was cheating involved. So now everyone wants to discredit the Patriots and all their victories. They would have had to cheat EVERY DAMN GAME to do what the do and if they did that then they would have been caught alot more than a "few" occasions. You could watch the Patriots like a hawk from now on and you'll only see one thing: winning.

[eat aliens]

what I find amusing is that the guy who got caugh was wearing a pats jersey, badge and cap and he was standing right by the sideline I men how dumb can you be to wear that stuff ( esp when you were caught before video taping the packers). and video tape at the jets sideline .

As a long time Pats fan, that's really the only thing that bothers me about this story. Whoever put the guy up to this is a complete idiot, at least in this respect. Seriously, they deserve whatever punishment they get just for being so stupid. Sign stealing happens all the time, hence the coaches covering their mouths when they speak...all teams do it, they're just not dumb enough to get caught in such an embarrassing way.

[SurfDUI]

Yeah, they cheated their way too the top. :whatever:


Not the whole way, they did like a bass drum-soundly beat the asses of the Rams...and Panthers in the big games, but when it comes to the playoffs, and little efforts to keep them into games the lines will get fuzzy as to right and advantage....ASK THE MVP LAST SEASON...

course that was more about class...:dry: I guess even Satan is a fan of the NFL

http://www.eyeofhorus.org.uk/images/photo/10tennant/series-02/09-satan/the-satan-pit-doctor-beast3.jpg

Go Pats

[Memphis Slim]

WVCB in Boston reports that Pats coach Bill Belichick has been summoned to New York by Commissioner Roger Goodell to answer questions regarding allegations that the Patriots were stealing defensive signals on Sunday against the Jets.

WEEI in Boston reports that the Patriots deny the WVCB report.

Either way, this issue is generating all sorts of buzz in league and media circles. Though it could be driven by the perception that the Patriots are the top organization in the league and the other 31 franchises would love to seem them take a fall, there's just too much smoke on this one to disregard it.

Still, we doubt that the Pats are the only team stealing signals, if the final decision is that they are or have been. Multiple readers have told us that the Eagles were taking great pains to shield their own defensive signals from prying eyes against the Packers, which suggests that this could be a fairly common thing.


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THIS IS RICH!!!!!!

[Kaleb]

summonded made me laugh as well

[SurfDUI]

Funny.

Why would he create conditions that were suppose to be harmful to a dome team?

A challenge keeps him motivated.

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/7e52275d-a8a0-4f23-b2cc-d864fb096bb0.jpg

[The_Mystery]

The MVP of last season came off like a whiney punk. He lost, take it like a man. Merriman trash talked the Patriots that entire week before the game and he gets made cause the lost and the Patriots make fun of his little steriod dance. Suck it up and stop b***hin'.

It's true: people hate winners. They saw how dominate the Pats were gonna be this year and boy they just went to town on it. You think Belichek needs a spy? Please, you can't consistantly "spy" your way to THREE Superbowl rings.

[Showtime]

Not the whole way, they did like a bass drum-soundly beat the asses of the Rams...and Panthers in the big games, but when it comes to the playoffs, and little efforts to keep them into games the lines will get fuzzy as to right and advantage....ASK THE MVP LAST SEASON...

course that was more about class...:dry: I guess even Satan is a fan of the NFL

http://www.eyeofhorus.org.uk/images/photo/10tennant/series-02/09-satan/the-satan-pit-doctor-beast3.jpg

Go Pats

Yeah...I forgot...Colts=Classy and Pats=Cheaters.

Can I borrow your rose colored glasses.

http://www.apresbeachbar.com.au/images/imagegallery/red%20glasses%20.jpg
Mic Check 1, 2, 3...GO COLTS.

[Memphis Slim]

Better question, how legit is all the Colts wins from last year? Clearly the NFL wanted their poster boy to get a Super Bowl Ring. :o :dry:

Hard work.....fast defensive players and practice.
Dungy has a lot more moral character than Bill. That ain't happening in colt land.

[Fran]

I'd laugh my ass off if it did.

[SurfDUI]

The MVP of last season came off like a whiney punk. He lost, take it like a man.


Hey, hey now, that's the passion of the reighning MVP. He was a little perturbed at his teams meltdown.

And it ain't ALWAYS about hating a winner, this is Baaa-stin!! were talkin bout. Matt Damon, Afleck, the freakin SOOOOXXX (who are my favs next to the Cubbies:o ) Boston Fans tried to firebomb Bill Russell for God's sake. This discontent be bout a city more than a team IMO.

[Showtime]

Hard work.....fast defensive players and practice.
Dungy has a lot more moral character than Bill. That ain't happening in colt land.

:whatever:

[SurfDUI]

Yeah...I forgot...Colts=Classy and Pats=Cheaters.


http://www.apresbeachbar.com.au/images/imagegallery/red%20glasses%20.jpg
Mic Check 1, 2, 3...GO COLTS.

"FREEDOM ROCK MANNN, TURN IT UP" This is how I imagine Farmer Fran by the by.:woot:

Where is this Bud's Lounge on 30th and Lafayette Rd.

[The_Mystery]

Hey, hey now, that's the passion of the reighning MVP. He was a little perturbed at his teams meltdown.


Fine, then he should have been mad at his own team...or coach :whatever:

[Showtime]

"FREEDOM ROCK MANNN, TURN IT UP" This is how I imagine Farmer Fran by the by.:woot:

Where is this Bud's Lounge on 30th and Lafayette Rd.

That dude is pretty cool. It's funny FarmerFran told me that he imagined you like this:

http://www.spitter.com/images/chalk_outline.jpg

[SurfDUI]

I'd laugh my ass off if it did.


It's time we talked...How much longer do I have to have El Dorado winking at me Fran:csad: . "Big Game" has a nice smile too, there aint' much to smile about regarding his team, but at least I dig him.

Let's talk turkey- 1 less post about Your World Champs a day:huh:. Course then I'd have to hate up another team...you know for balance, whadyasay?

[Fran]

I haven't posted about the Rams at all today.

Now do 10 less posts about YOUR World Champs per day.

[SurfDUI]

I haven't posted about the Rams at all today.

Don't sweat it, there woes are general NFL news.

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Now do 10 less posts about YOUR World Champs per day.

....but...but the COLTS won the Superbowl-I remember it....Three less posts and you sub out a winking Tony Romo.

[Cmill216]

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[Immortalfire]

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[Excel]

I'd laugh my ass off if it did.

How you think they got past the bears DEFENSE in the super bowl :o

[SurfDUI]

http://www.polarbearrepublic.com/images/sasha/Bengals/2007CBaction_Group19.jpg


Hey thar:word: :oldrazz:

[Showtime]

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The Patriots should steal those cheerleaders.

[Advanced Dark]

Titans just picked up Bryce Fisher today from the Seahawks. I don't know much about him but he sounds solid.

[Fran]

Just by the name, he sounds solid? :huh:

[Advanced Dark]

Just by the name, he sounds solid? :huh:

Oh c'mon now I'm a bit deeper than that. LOL

Titans acquire defensive end Bryce Fisher in tradeTitans Onlinehttp://www.titansonline.com/wpimages/Fisher_Bryce/fisher_bryce1.jpg
The Titans added depth and production to their defensive line by acquiring Bryce Fisher from the Seattle Seahawks.
NASHVILLE, TN, Sept. 11, 2007 – The Tennessee Titans acquired DE Bryce Fisher for an undisclosed draft pick in a trade with the Seattle Seahawks today. Fisher joins the Titans after spending the last two seasons in Seattle. Prior to joining the Seahawks, he played three seasons with the St. Louis Rams (2002-2004) and one campaign with the Buffalo Bills (2001).
“He has a lot of the attributes that you look for in a base defensive end - someone who plays the run, has the ability to rush the passer and can play either side,” said Titans general manager Mike Reinfeldt. “I expect him to fit well in our system and add to the depth that we are building in the defensive line.”
“This is a good addition to our team in a number of ways,” said Titans head coach Jeff Fisher. “He has been a productive and durable player through the years and a player that we have had interest in for a number of years. I look forward to adding him to our defensive line mix.”
Fisher has played in 82 career games with 49 starts and has registered 261 tackles (159 solo), 26.5 sacks, 13 passes defensed, five forced fumbles and a fumble recovery in seven NFL seasons. The 6-foot-3-inch, 265-pound defensive end also has excelled in the playoffs, collecting 29 tackles (17 solo), 3.5 sacks and two forced fumbles in eight career postseason contests. Fisher enjoyed a breakout campaign with the Rams in 2004 when he notched a career-high 77 tackles (38 solo) and 8.5 sacks. After signing as an unrestricted free agent prior to 2005 with the Seahawks, he collected a career-best 9.0 sacks and eight pass defensed in his first season in Seattle. Last season, the seven-year veteran started all 16 games for the Seahawks and registered 46 tackles (37 solo) and four sacks. He saw action in a reserve role in the Seattle’s opener against Tampa Bay last week but did not record any statistics.
Fisher was originally drafted by the Buffalo Bills in the seventh round (240th overall) of the 1999 NFL Draft. After fulfilling a two-year active duty commitment with the Air Force, he joined the Bills for the 2001 season and notched three sacks. The Renton, Wash., native was a two-year starter at the Air Force Academy and earned WAC Defensive Player of the Year honors in the Mountain Division as a senior after posting 70 tackles, six sacks and a fumble recovery.
To make room on the roster for Fisher, DT Jesse Mahelona was released.
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[Jerry!]

How you think they got past the bears DEFENSE in the super bowl :o

They paid off Charles Tillman.

[Badger]

Hard work.....fast defensive players and practice.
Dungy has a lot more moral character than Bill. That ain't happening in colt land.

I have a comeback for that, about Dungy, but I chose not to go done that road... :o

[Memphis Slim]

I have a comeback for that, about Dungy, but I chose not to go done that road... :o


Wouldn't matter if you did. Doesn't change how he's operated both in Tampa and Indy.

[kane9321]

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great cheerleaders

great team

[kane9321]

charlie frye is happy now...he's off that lousy browns team:)

[Cracker Jack]

They paid off Charles Tillman.

That son of a ....................They also told Mr. Gets Stronger as the Game Goes on, "If you come back out on the field we're going to kill your kitty cat." :oldrazz: :cwink: :woot: