2007 NFL Thread

[Kaleb]

Peyton Manning's hosting SNL on March 24th. :wow:

at least he wont suck it up like Tom Brady did.

[Byrd Man]

Just seen this on ESPN. Sorry if it's old.


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=snibbe/070302

[Cmill216]

Patriots agree to terms with Adalius Thomas.

Nate Clements signs an 8 year, $80 million deal with the 49ers. $22.5 million guaranteed.

[LostSon88]

That is one HELL of a contract Niners...:wow:

Let's take it easy now...still got a long free agency period...


:woot:

EDIT: I just realized...we got Nate Clements and Walt Harris as our CBs!!!!!!!!!!!! Awesome....

In more signing news...we just signed S Michael Lewis from the Eagles.

[Showtime]

I read he agreed in principle with the Niners

Theres also reports that Nate Clements has signed with them as well

The agreement with Thomas and the New England Patriots will be announced tomorrow I believe.

[Showtime]

I still think he will Sign with the 49ers .

2. The biggest loser Friday was the Ravens. Right out of the box, they lost three players -- right tackle Tony Pashos (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6509), Mughelli and Franklin. They are expected to lose linebacker Adalius Thomas (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5215) to the Patriots on Saturday morning. The Ravens stopped some of the bleeding by re-signing defensive tackle Jarret Johnson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6445) for around $13 million over three years. Plus, they also have a decent chance of re-signing halfback Jamal Lewis (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5034). Last year, the Ravens lost several players in the opening days of free agency but were able to rebound. Can they do the same thing again?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2786311

[Ben Urich]

Bill Gramatica, Martin's brother, is playing in the AFL now. He missed all of his PATs and field goals tonight.

:o

[Darren Daring]

I rememebr when Bill used to be Martin's brother.

[Showtime]

Adalius Thomas is getting his physical here in Foxborough and is going to sign for 6 years, around 6million. 20million signing bonus.

[Showtime]

Patriots have also reached an agreement with Kyle Brady, which means Graham is no doubt gone.

[Cmill216]

The Buccaneers were reportedly close to signing free agent quarterback Jeff Garcia late Friday night.

Talks between Garcia and Oakland broke off Friday evening and the ex-Eagle turned his attention to Tampa Bay. The deal could be announced as soon as Saturday, according to the Tampa Tribune, although the St. Petersburg Times reports Garcia remains on the Texans' radar

*crosses fingers*

[StorminNorman]

Garcia still sucks, his popularity now is based purely on the fact that he played on a team that rallied around him last year.

[Darren Daring]

Woulodn't his ability to make a team rally around him define him as one who... does not suck?

[Mister J]

*crosses fingers*
ESPNews says it done happened.

Garcia still sucks, his popularity now is based purely on the fact that he played on a team that rallied around him last year.
I approve of this message. I wouldn't bank on this guy as a starter.

[StorminNorman]

Woulodn't his ability to make a team rally around him define him as one who... does not suck?

He is a good leader, he is not a great QB. If he was back on the Eagles, or a team of equal or greater talent, then he would be a very very good back-up QB.

He is now on a less talented team (no offense CMill) and in a position where he may get a starting role. Garcia is no longer a starting QB.

Plus, lets not forget that he is now 37.

[Cmill216]

He is a good leader, he is not a great QB. If he was back on the Eagles, or a team of equal or greater talent, then he would be a very very good back-up QB.

I fail to see how a "very good backup QB" is capable of turning a team around in a way the starting QB could not, and posting brilliant numbers (10tds, 2 INTs) and taking them to within four points of the NFC title game.

He is now on a less talented team (no offense CMill)

None taken. But if we can actually manage to stay healthy next year (which was a major problem last year), and we can nab a guy like Calvin Johnson with our 1st Round pick, that instantly makes Tampa a decent team. The NFC is that wish washy, as is the NFC South, where last place one year means first place the next. ;)

Plus, lets not forget that he is now 37.

I think that age thing is a bit overrated, specifically in his case. Did he look like a 37-year-old last season, running around making plays?

[Cmill216]

Well things just got interesting down here in Tampa.

The Bucs not only nabbed Garcia, but the Plummer trade just went through. Jake to the Bucs for a 2008 conditional draft pick? WTH? :wow: :huh:

EDIT: Reading more on it, he's probably not going to set foot on a field with Tampa, but the Bucs have his rights, which means they can deal him elsewhere. Interesting.

[Ben Urich]

ESPN is reporting that the Bucs have signed Jeff Garcia AND traded for Jake Plummer.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2786694

... okaaaaaaaaaaay :huh:

[Fran]

I guess Jake really is gonna retire, or at least told the Bucs he would. I'm sure that's why they got Garcia.

[Cmill216]

I've been on top of this situation (:cool:), so here's what I can tell ya:

Many Bucs fans are freaking out right now and are cursing the names of Bruce Allen and Jon Gruden for this bizarre day. Garcia is here to stay (no doubt there), but Plummer could likely be used in a trade to Houston (which may be the only place he'd actually like to go in a trade because of Kubiak).

I'll have more on this developing story as soon as I attach my head back on.

[Fran]

Yeah, ESPN reported that last night, about Jake possibly going to Houston.

I love having ESPNEWS now :up:

[Cmill216]

More on the shenanigans:


TRADE PUTS PLUMMER IN A CORNER

The trade of quarterback Jake Plummer to the Bucs is aimed at preventing Plummer from retiring for a few months and then unretiring to play for the Texans, explains Adam Schefter of NFL Network.

Per Schefter, the trade states that Plummer either unretires and plays for the Bucs, or Plummer retires and the Broncos retain the ability to pursue the unallocated portion of his signing bonus.

But if Plummer unretires, Tampa will have to have $5.3 million in cap room to carry his base salary. So, in essence, Plummer can opt to force Tampa's hand by saying, "Sure, I'll show up." It will force Tampa to pay him $5.3 million or cut him.

Or trade him, perhaps to the Texans.

Regardless of how it all works out, it's an odd development for a day on which the headline in Tampa should be the acquisition of quarterback Jeff Garcia.


Bruce Allen admitted he was aware of Jake Plummer’s desire to posibily retire, but went through with the trade anyway.

“I’m sure he just wants to weigh some things on his mind,” Allen said.

Allen is still holding out hope Plummer will be one of the quarterbacks the Bucs take to training camp with them this summer.

“We traded for him, we own his rights, we’ll have further discussions at a later time,” Allen said. “But there is a possibility he doesn’t play the 2007 season.”

SOURCE: http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/sports/related/C546/

[Ben Urich]

Hahaa, they could trade Plummer to Houston for David Carr. :woot::up:

[Cmill216]

Hahaa, they could trade Plummer to Houston for David Carr. :woot::up:

That would kick a$$. :wow:

[Showtime]

I like Garcia in Tampa Bay, that is a good situation for him.

[StorminNorman]

I fail to see how a "very good backup QB" is capable of turning a team around in a way the starting QB could not, and posting brilliant numbers (10tds, 2 INTs) and taking them to within four points of the NFC title game.

The success of Garcia can be placed heavily on the emergence of a running game the Eagles stuck to and a regenerated Eagles Defense.


None taken. But if we can actually manage to stay healthy next year (which was a major problem last year), and we can nab a guy like Calvin Johnson with our 1st Round pick, that instantly makes Tampa a decent team. The NFC is that wish washy, as is the NFC South, where last place one year means first place the next. ;)
Tampa has a decent team, they have more than decent talent - but I don't think Garcia makes them better than they are with Simms.


I think that age thing is a bit overrated, specifically in his case. Did he look like a 37-year-old last season, running around making plays?

37 years old is 37 years old. He did not look like a 37 year old guy last year, but he did show signs of being 36 at times ;)

[StorminNorman]

Hahaa, they could trade Plummer to Houston for David Carr. :woot::up:

If Oakland was smart, they would trade for David Carr and then draft the best player in the draft - Calvin Johnson.

Luckily for CMill, this is the Raders we are talking about.

[Cmill216]

Tampa has a decent team, they have more than decent talent - but I don't think Garcia makes them better than they are with Simms.

Oh, he undoubtedly makes them better for the simple fact that he fits Jon's scheme far better than Chris. Simms has a much slower (vertical based) release and isn't nearly as mobile as Jeff. Obviously, Garcia isn't getting any younger, yes, but the man's got at least two or three good years in him before he starts to show a legit decline in talent.

Jon's had tremendous success with veteran quarterbacks, much like Jeff Garcia. He made Rich Gannon, he brought the best out of Brad Johnson, and completely resurrected Brian Griese. He'll do wonders for Garcia, who comes into this scenario in a far better position than the aforementioned vets. Jeff inherits a good young running back, a veteran burner at wide receiver, a pair of solid tight ends, and a young offensive line that gained a lot of experience through last year. God willing we bring in Calvin Johnson, and look out.

[StorminNorman]

Oh, he undoubtedly makes them better for the simple fact that he fits Jon's scheme far better than Chris. Simms has a much slower (vertical based) release and isn't nearly as mobile as Jeff. Obviously, Garcia isn't getting any younger, yes, but the man's got at least two or three good years in him before he starts to show a legit decline in talent.

Jon's had tremendous success with veteran quarterbacks, much like Jeff Garcia. He made Rich Gannon, he brought the best out of Brad Johnson, and completely resurrected Brian Griese. He'll do wonders for Garcia, who comes into this scenario in a far better position than the aforementioned vets. Jeff inherits a good young running back, a veteran burner at wide receiver, a pair of solid tight ends, and a young offensive line that gained a lot of experience through last year. God willing we bring in Calvin Johnson, and look out.

You may very well be right, I am still not sold on Jeff right now though. You take away last season and he has been fairly lack luster the last few years - no one wanted him. I am just not sure which one is the real Jeff Garcia - the one we saw last year, or the Jeff Garcia of the Lions and the Browns.

You do bring up a very good point in Rich Gannon and Gruden's success with what many would see as "over-the-hill" QB's

[Showtime]

Oh, he undoubtedly makes them better for the simple fact that he fits Jon's scheme far better than Chris. Simms has a much slower (vertical based) release and isn't nearly as mobile as Jeff. Obviously, Garcia isn't getting any younger, yes, but the man's got at least two or three good years in him before he starts to show a legit decline in talent.

Jon's had tremendous success with veteran quarterbacks, much like Jeff Garcia. He made Rich Gannon, he brought the best out of Brad Johnson, and completely resurrected Brian Griese. He'll do wonders for Garcia, who comes into this scenario in a far better position than the aforementioned vets. Jeff inherits a good young running back, a veteran burner at wide receiver, a pair of solid tight ends, and a young offensive line that gained a lot of experience through last year. God willing we bring in Calvin Johnson, and look out.

I agree with you here 100% Jeff Garcia is going to fit in like a missing puzzle piece. Chris Simms has had below moderate success when given the chance, basically in 2005. He's been in the league for 4 years and hasn't proven much of anything. Jeff Garcia on the other hand, has had an abudance of success including last year. The Buc's apparently felt that Chris Simm's wasn't the answer, or they wouldn't have brought in Garcia.

[StorminNorman]

If the Bucs really feel that Sims is not the answer, they need to start looking at a QB like Stanton in the draft.

[Cmill216]

If the Bucs really feel that Sims is not the answer, they need to start looking at a QB like Stanton in the draft.

No need. Bruce Gradkowski.

If Simms is indeed a bust, they have their next best young bet sitting right there. That experience he gained from last season is going to pay off tremendously. And honestly, he's physically very similar to a Jeff Garcia type of quarterback and a perfect model QB for Jon's system. He's just got to improve his ability to read the D (something that'll come with experience) and he's got to work on his downfield touch. But he'll be solid.

He's been in the league for 4 years and hasn't proven much of anything.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that. Chris does have one thing going for him: in his short time, he's been money in the clutch (evidenced by his performance against the Redskins, Falcons twice, and even in the spleen game against Carolina).

I am just not sure which one is the real Jeff Garcia - the one we saw last year, or the Jeff Garcia of the Lions and the Browns.

Those teams (Detroit and Cleveland) had one thing in common: they sucked ass. And really, his numbers in Cleveland weren't even that bad. I think it was like 10 TDs, 9 INTs. If he has talent around him (which he will here), and a half decent offensive mind to direct him, the man can do wonders.

Not saying he's the second coming (:D), but it's a perfect pickup for this team, and it will force Simms (and in some regards Gradkowski) to get their **** together.

[Fran]

Rams sign Titans WR Drew Bennett to prove you all wrong.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2786610 :word:

[Fran]

Edit---double post.

[Cmill216]

Good signing by St. Louis. He'll give them a big target to work in the slot with Holt and Bruce.

[Kaleb]

ok so basically the rams philosphy is to always use a white guy as their slot wr , I mean lets see Ricky Proel, Kevin Curtis and now Drew Bennett.

[Kaleb]

BUCS TO SHIP PLUMMER TO RAIDERS?

There's speculation in league circles that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will eventually trade quarterback Jake Plummer to the Oakland Raiders.

The thinking is that the Raiders are interested in acquiring Plummer as a short-term starter while expected No. 1 overall pick JaMarcus Russell gets ready to play, but that there's no way that the Raiders and Broncos ever could have done business together.

Enter the Bucs, who could end up being the straw man for a deal that puts Plummer in silver and black


profootballtalk

[Byrd Man]

BUCS TO SHIP PLUMMER TO RAIDERS?

There's speculation in league circles that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will eventually trade quarterback Jake Plummer to the Oakland Raiders.

The thinking is that the Raiders are interested in acquiring Plummer as a short-term starter while expected No. 1 overall pick JaMarcus Russell gets ready to play, but that there's no way that the Raiders and Broncos ever could have done business together.

Enter the Bucs, who could end up being the straw man for a deal that puts Plummer in silver and black


................Can't do any worse than Collins or Brooks

[StorminNorman]

BUCS TO SHIP PLUMMER TO RAIDERS?

There's speculation in league circles that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will eventually trade quarterback Jake Plummer to the Oakland Raiders.

The thinking is that the Raiders are interested in acquiring Plummer as a short-term starter while expected No. 1 overall pick JaMarcus Russell gets ready to play, but that there's no way that the Raiders and Broncos ever could have done business together.

Enter the Bucs, who could end up being the straw man for a deal that puts Plummer in silver and black


profootballtalk

The Raiders need David Carr :down

[Fran]

Good signing by St. Louis. He'll give them a big target to work in the slot with Holt and Bruce.

Yeah, this is a dangerous receiving core already, this Bennett signing just makes it stronger.

ok so basically the rams philosphy is to always use a white guy as their slot wr , I mean lets see Ricky Proel, Kevin Curtis and now Drew Bennett.

Works every time. :up:

[Cmill216]

The Raiders need David Carr

The Raiders need Jesus.

[StorminNorman]

The Raiders need Jesus.

Give me 4 years as a GM and I could take the Raiders to the playoffs.

Or at least that is what Madden 07 told me :(

[Byrd Man]

The Raiders need Jesus.

Of course, he can run the 40 in 4.3, squat 600, bench press 500 and has a 40 inch vertical.

[Cmill216]

Of course, he can run the 40 in 4.3, squat 600, bench press 500 and has a 40 inch vertical.

He doesn't actually play.

But everyone knows Jesus runs a mean Cover 2.

Give me 4 years as a GM and I could take the Raiders to the playoffs.

Or at least that is what Madden 07 told me :(

Madden is simply genius. Any football simulation that allows Brooks Bollinger to average 4 TDs a game, win the league MVP and Offensive Player of the Year awards, and win the Super Bowl is cool with me.

[Byrd Man]

He doesn't actually play.

But everyone knows Jesus runs a mean Cover 2.

Not on my team. Mother Teresa does the playcalling.

[Fran]

I went to GameStop the other day, and they were hyping Madden 08 Reservations. :huh:

I understand the need to make money, secure your game, etc., but I mean, come on.

[Cmill216]

Not on my team. Mother Teresa does the playcalling.

Last time I checked, Mother Teresa was an offensive coordinator. Doesn't she still run the spread option?

[StorminNorman]

I went to GameStop the other day, and they were hyping Madden 08 Reservations. :huh:

I understand the need to make money, secure your game, etc., but I mean, come on.

I once reserved my copy of the next Madden the day I picked up my new copy of Madden :(

I have played every Madden since Madden '97 - man do I love that game.

[Fran]

I played on and off, but started playing it religiously once it hit the 360.

[Cmill216]

My pops and I have waged many Madden wars over the years. He's an aggressive, blitzing defense, vertical offense type of guy. I'm a grinding, methodical offense, zone defense kind of guy.

[StorminNorman]

I love playing Madden games on the next generation games, but I wouldn't buy it on a next gen system yet. Its Franchise mode isn't as deep as the ps2/xbox version, and thats what I love. Basically I rarely ever play the games now, I just handle the off the field stuff and have a blast.

[Fran]

Once they get the Franchise mode straightened out, get an Xbox 360 so I can own you on Live. :up:

[Cmill216]

The 49ers have agreed to a deal with free agent wideout Ashley Lelie, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

San Francisco is looking for a player to replace troubled Antonio Bryant, who was released by the team late in the week, but we're not sure Lelie will be a great fit. The two wideouts' profiles are similar, though we'd give the edge to Bryant in terms of being an all-around talent. The Niners should continue to add talent at receiver in the draft.

San Fran spendin' like there's no tomorrow.

[StorminNorman]

Once they get the Franchise mode straightened out, get an Xbox 360 so I can own you on Live. :up:

Sony owns my ass :up:

[Fran]

Dude, don't get a PS3.

I have one, and it's a big paperweight.

:csad:

[Cmill216]

Sony owns my ass :up:

I tried to play Madden on an XBox, and it just wasn't right. Square will always be the receiver on the left, to me.

[StorminNorman]

I tried to play Madden on an XBox, and it just wasn't right. Square will always be the receiver on the left, to me.

Amen :up:

[Fran]

It's called adaptation!

But yeah, I love my 360. :csad:

[Kaleb]

San Fran spendin' like there's no tomorrow.

bwhahahaaha what a waste of a signing.

[StorminNorman]

It's called adaptation!

But yeah, I love my 360. :csad:

and how did it repay your love?

It broke.

[Mister J]

- Cowboys keep Terry Glenn ; picks up 5M roster bonus
- Titans release Travis Henry (they are all jerks)
- Patriots reportedly to sign Wes Welker to offer sheet
- Texans give Andre Johnson 6 year extension

[Fran]

I'm gonna contribute some news as well from ESPN Insider.

All of these I'm gonna post are from ESPN NFL Insider.

[Fran]

Dillon on his way to New York?

Mar. 3-- After being released by the Patriots, Corey Dillon may stay in the same division, the Boston Globe reports. The Jets, who struggled to mount a ground attack with Curtis Martin sidelined last year, are expected to have interest in the 33-year old.

[Fran]

Henry on the move

Mar. 3-- Unwilling to pay tailback Travis Henry an $8.3 million roster bonus that he would have been due on Monday, the Tennessee Titans on Saturday released the six-year veteran, making him an unrestricted free agent and able to immediately sign with another team. The Titans are jerks for releasing Henry.

ESPN.com has learned that Henry was en route to Denver on Saturday evening to meet with Broncos officials. It is believed that Henry is now the top choice of the Broncos as they seek to upgrade at the tailback position.

Agent Hadley Engelhard has also had discussions with officials from Green Bay, Oakland and Houston about his client.

[Fran]

Rhodes well traveled

Mar. 3-- Dominic Rhodes visited with the Giants on Saturday, undergoing a physical and meeting with team officials. and the team is expected to make a big push to land him, the New York Daily News reports. The Super Bowl hero is seen as the ideal complement to Brandon Jacobs.

[Fran]

Grant feeling forced out

Mar. 3-- Deon Grant is set to visit New Orleans on Sunday before traveling to Seattle to meet with the Seahawks on Tuesday, The Florida Times Union reports.

The seven-year veteran and unrestricted free agent has made it clear he would like to remain a Jaguar, but the feeling is apparently not mutual, as the the club hasn't been returning his calls since offering him a deal that he estimates was less in base salary than his 2006 contract.

"I've got so much love for the city," said Grant, who was the Jags' starting free safety last season. "I've got mad love for the community, my teammates, everybody out there. We've got a real bond and friendship in the locker room. I just don't understand why you'd want to break that up."

[Fran]

McMichael on the block

Mar. 3-- According to the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, the Dolphins are looking to deal Randy McMichael, who is the franchise's all-time leader in catches (283) and receiving yards (3,096) for a tight end. McMichael is set to collect a $3 million roster bonus along with his $1 million base salary for 2007.

"They have not said anything to me about it nor have any teams contacted me about it," agent Drew Rosenhaus said. "I've got no comment on it because it's the first I've heard of it."

[Fran]

Mr. Smoot going to Washington?

Mar. 3-- Released by the Vikings, Fred Smoot spent Friday night watching the Washington Wizards at the Verizon Center, courtesy of the Redskins, the St. Paul Pioneer Press reports. Asked if he was returning to the Redskins, where he spent his first four NFL seasons, Smoot said, "It's a great chance."

[Fran]

Davis visits Dallas, Washington next

Mar. 3-- As expected, Leonard Davis visited the Cowboys on Saturday, touring the facilities and taking a physical, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports.

Davis, who is drawing interest from every team in the NFC East, left Dallas without a contract agreement and will visit the Redskins next.

He could be an option for the Cowboys at right tackle if they lose Marc Colombo in free agency, and he could be an option at right guard for Marco Rivera, who might be forced to retire.

[Immortalfire]

McMichael on the block

Mar. 3-- According to the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, the Dolphins are looking to deal Randy McMichael, who is the franchise's all-time leader in catches (283) and receiving yards (3,096) for a tight end. McMichael is set to collect a $3 million roster bonus along with his $1 million base salary for 2007.

"They have not said anything to me about it nor have any teams contacted me about it," agent Drew Rosenhaus said. "I've got no comment on it because it's the first I've heard of it."

Former Dawg.

[Fran]

Chiefs looking for protection

Mar. 3-- Kansas brought Chris McIntosh in for a visit on Friday, the Kansas City Star reports. McIntosh, a starter for Miami at left tackle last season, would presumably replace Jordan Black, who is an unrestricted free agent. He could provide some stability to an otherwise uncertain offensive line.

Porter has plenty of suitors

Mar. 3-- Two of Pittsburgh's biggest rivals have quickly entered the Joey Porter sweepstakes, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports. Cincinnati and Cleveland, along with Miami and others, contacted Porter's agent, Jeff Sperbeck.

Porter, who was released by the Steelers on Thursday, has not scheduled any visits and likely won't until next week "when we have it narrowed down and decide who has the most interest and the fit that's best for him," Sperbeck said.

The veteran linebacker would reportedly like to top the $5 million salary he was to receive this season from the Steelers.

Vikings, Lions eyeing Curtis

Mar. 3-- The Vikings entertained Curtis on Friday, the Pioneer Press reports. The free-agent wideout is expected to head to Detroit on Saturday to visit with the Lions and former Rams head coach Mike Martz, now the Lions' offensive coordinator.

[Kaleb]

I cant understand why Randy is on the trading block I mean you would think that Cam loves his pass catching tight ends ( gates)

[Kaleb]

Plummer has decided to retire again.

[C-$]

I tried to play Madden on an XBox, and it just wasn't right. Square will always be the receiver on the left, to me.

I played my friend in Madden 07( who isn't close to my level)on the 360 and I ended getting beat becuase I'm so use to playstation. I felt like I was out of my element. When I tried tp play bump & run, I kept jumping offsides. There is no DEFENSIVE PLAYMAKER! WTF?! I felt naked and helpless without it.

[Mister J]

I cant understand why Randy is on the trading block I mean you would think that Cam loves his pass catching tight ends ( gates)
The word I'm getting is that it's more about the roster bonus than anything else. Randy's good, but he's not one of the elite tight ends in the league. Cameron's got Peele there (who he knows from San Diego). Though his production has never been akin to Randy's, it could be felt his familiarity with the system will help him step up and allow Miami to make better use of that cap space, along with whatever they get back via a McMichael trade. Just a thought.

[Mister J]

Texans come to agreement with Ahman Green.

[Cmill216]

Texans come to agreement with Ahman Green.

Brings in to question whether they'd be willing to trade up to get Peterson.

[Kaleb]

Why they have Ahman Green now.

[Cmill216]

Why they have Ahman Green now.

That was kinda the point.

[Showtime]

The Patriots are extremely intrested in Randy Moss and are exploring trade possibilities. Belechick believes that he can reign in this guy as he did Corey Dillon and give Brady a major threat.

The Pats have also offered Wes Welker a 7 year deal that can be matched by the Dolphins within a 7 day period. Not sure if it is either Welker or Moss at this point.

[Kaleb]

Restricted free agent Wes Welker will be in New England on Sunday.
The Pats are expected to throw Welker a seven-year, $38.5 million offer sheet. Miami will get the No. 60 overall pick if the proposal isn't matched.
Source: Boston Globe



haha , no ways is this guy worth that amount of scratch , he isnt even in the same league as Drew Bennett or Tim Dwight, I mean he only has one td.

[Showtime]

Restricted free agent Wes Welker will be in New England on Sunday.
The Pats are expected to throw Welker a seven-year, $38.5 million offer sheet. Miami will get the No. 60 overall pick if the proposal isn't matched.
Source: Boston Globe



haha , no ways is this guy worth that amount of scratch , he isnt even in the same league as Drew Bennett or Tim Dwight, I mean he only has one td.

That is alot of money to throw his way. The key is that he will be returning kicks and punts as well, in essence taking the place of Troy Brown, who is in most likely his last year. He is a small receiver which fits right into the Patriots system. The question is does this cancel out the Randy Moss rumors?

It's also being reported that the Patriots have intrest in Dante Stalworth (Sp).

[kane9321]

49ers..damnit go for joey porter now

[Kaleb]

That is alot of money to throw his way. The key is that he will be returning kicks and punts as well, in essence taking the place of Troy Brown, who is in most likely his last year. He is a small receiver which fits right into the Patriots system. The question is does this cancel out the Randy Moss rumors?

It's also being reported that the Patriots have intrest in Dante Stalworth (Sp).
I dont think it does, I mean for one thing you dont stop going after a stud wr , who wants to get out of his team, just becasue you have a random white wide reciever , plus Billichick is in love with him and says he can bring back his career much like he did corey dillions.

[Dark Donnie]

Travis Henry signed with the Broncos

[Kaleb]

good deal, but henry is groin injury waiting to happen , they should have gone after willis

[Dark Donnie]

Im not a willis fan...he gets hurt alot to. I woul dhave liked to see them get Thomas Jones

[ScottyBBadd]

The wheeling and dealing has begun.

[Prognosticator]

WTF is THIS???

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-cowboys-davis&prov=ap&type=lgns

Deal gives Davis fresh start, largest bonus in Cowboys history
By STEPHEN HAWKINS, AP Sports Writer
March 5, 2007

AP - Mar 5, 1:48 pm EST
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IRVING, Texas (AP) -- Leonard Davis got exactly what he wanted by signing with the Dallas Cowboys.

It was more than just the money: a seven-year contract worth nearly $50 million. It was a return home after six disappointing seasons in Arizona, where the 6-foot-6, 372-pound offensive lineman never became the dominating Pro Bowl-level player so many envisioned after he was the No. 2 pick out of Texas in 2001.

"I felt like I did everything that I could possibly do. ... Sometimes expectations can be unrealistic," Davis said. "I'm excited just to know that something new is coming up. It will be a challenge, but I'm all about challenges."

The deal with the Cowboys includes $18.75 million in guaranteed money, a team-record $16 million signing bonus and a $2.75 million salary for 2007. Davis became an unrestricted free agent when Arizona decided not to name him a franchise or transition player.

Davis played guard and tackle while starting all 91 of his games in Arizona. Where he plays for the Cowboys depends on whether they re-sign right tackle Marc Colombo and the future of right guard Marco Rivera, who just had surgery on his back for the second time in less than three years.

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"We understand what he is as an offensive lineman. There's nothing in my mind at all unknown about what he is as a player," Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said. "We can talk about expectations all we want to. What he's done is the kind of play at any of those positions that will get it done for us, or we wouldn't be making the commitment."

Jones said the Cowboys had also agreed to terms on a new contract with kicker Martin Gramatica, who was picked up in November when Mike Vanderjagt was released.

The 28-year-old Davis visited with Washington, and the New York Giants were interested.

"The decision when it came down to it was not about the money. It was about where I really wanted to live my life," Davis said.

Davis is from Wortham, Texas, about 80 miles south of Dallas. Being close to home will provide the opportunity for his 84-year-old father to see him play in person and for Davis to play for the team he grew up watching.

"It's a new chapter in my life," he said. "I want to win games, which obviously I haven't been able to do in this part of my career. Right now, all I can do is look forward to being successful. ... I want to be able to have some respect, earn respect."

Davis' signing bonus surpasses the $13 million the Cowboys gave Hall of Fame quarterback Troy Aikman, defensive back Deion Sanders and former perennial Pro Bowl guard Larry Allen.

The deal came days after free agent linemen Eric Steinbach (Cleveland Browns) and Derrick Dockery (Buffalo Bills) got similar seven-year deals that included $17 million to $18.5 million in guaranteed money.

While Davis was being introduced to the media, quarterback Tony Romo came in to greet his new protector.

"I just know that he's a good player. We definitely got someone that gets me excited," Romo said. "Anytime you can get a guy to protect you up front, it's a huge addition."

The Cowboys are still hopeful of re-signing Colombo, and Jones said the signing of Davis "doesn't preclude" that. The Cowboys already re-signed center Andre Gurode to a $30 million, six-year deal with $10 million guaranteed.

Jones said the offensive line was a priority this offseason.

"We've missed on a couple of our picks the last three or four years," Jones said. "(Davis) gives us a chance to really play catch-up and really get back to where, arguably, if we had gotten a little better results on our draft there on a couple of picks, we would be."


Updated on Monday, Mar 5, 2007 4:28 pm EST



Who's making these decisions in Dallas? A golden calf?

[ScottyBBadd]

Davis visits Dallas, Washington next

Mar. 3-- As expected, Leonard Davis visited the Cowboys on Saturday, touring the facilities and taking a physical, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports.

Davis, who is drawing interest from every team in the NFC East, left Dallas without a contract agreement and will visit the Redskins next.

He could be an option for the Cowboys at right tackle if they lose Marc Colombo in free agency, and he could be an option at right guard for Marco Rivera, who might be forced to retire.

Dallas singing Davis makes sense.

[Prognosticator]

^ Yeah, but all that money??? Jerry Jones has lost his mind with the way the organization's been run the in the last decade!

[Fran]

Some more ESPN Insider updates coming...

ALL OF THESE ARE TODAY'S UPDATES!

Moss a possibility for the Patriots?
The Boston Herald is reporting that Patriots head coach Bill Belichick would consider acquiring Randy Moss for the right price. The Packers have been considered the front-runners to land Moss in a trade with Oakland, but neither side appears to be in a hurry to consummate a deal. The Packers have offered backup QB Aaron Rodgers; the Raiders are holding out for a first-round pick.

The Raiders appear determined to unload Moss due to his cavalier attitude and high cap number ($11.7 million). In two seasons with the Raiders, Moss has caught 102 passes for 1,558 yards and 11 touchdowns.

Curtis leaning toward Lions?
Kevin Curtis met with the Lions on Sunday, but the sides did not come to a contract agreement, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune. Curtis, a free-agent wide receiver, has also visited Minnesota. Of the two, it is believed Curtis prefers the Lions due to his relationship with offensive coordinator Mike Martz, his former coach in St. Louis.

Banta-Cain Pittsburgh bound?
The Steelers, who are seeking versatile linebackers and a replacement for Joey Porter, are interested in Tully Banta-Cain, according to multiple reports.

In four years in New England, Banta-Cain excelled as an outside linebacker in the 3-4 scheme, and also showed the versatility to play defensive end in the 4-3. In 2006, Banta-Cain had 43 tackles and 5½ sacks.

Banta-Cain, 26, visited St. Louis on March 2. He has also received interest from Miami and San Francisco.

Dolphins turn to Washington
With WR Wes Welker headed to New England, the Dolphins have set their sights on Kelley Washington. In fact, the team could could make him an offer as early as today, according to the Palm Beach Post.

Buried on the wide receiver depth chart in Cincinnati, the 27-year-old Washington showed a lot of promise early in his career. He caught 53 passes for seven touchdowns during his first two seasons (2003-04). Hindered by hamstring injury in 2006, Washington caught on nine passes for 115 yards.

Johnson making visits
Brad Johnson was in Denver on Sunday and is expected to visit Dallas today, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune. The veteran quarterback was recently released by the Vikings, making him a free agent.

Saints eyeing Draft
Looking to add depth to their linebacking corps, the Saints have expressed interest in Chris Draft, according to the The Times-Picayune.

Draft, 31, made a strong impression on the Saints in the 2006 regular-season finale. In Carolina's 31-21 victory, Draft had a game-high 14 tackles, a sack and a fumble recovery.

Carter looking for a home
Kevin Carter, who was released by the Dolphins on March 2, is meeting with Tampa Bay today, according to the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. The veteran defensive end, who started all 32 games for the Dolphins the past two seasons, is also being pursued by Tennessee.

Jets considering Bowens?
The Jets are scheduled to meet with Tim Bowens today, reports the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. Bowens, who has played for the Dolphins since 2001, had five sacks and a fumble recovery in limited playing time last season.

[NewYorkSpider]

Wow! Randy Moss to New England. That would be a good pick up.

[Prognosticator]

That was speculated last season as well.

[Mister J]

I have no interest in seeing Kelley Washington sign with Miami. Unfortunately, I have no absolutely no influence on the Dolphins' decisions. No matter how many times call the personnel offices, they refuse to put me through to Huzienga or Muller. Elitist bastards :cmad:

[Mee]

Randy Moss as a Patriot just seems...wrong. Like it could only happen in an alternate universe or something.

[Ben Urich]

Randy Moss as a Patriot just seems...wrong. Like it could only happen in an alternate universe or something.

Yeah, Randy needs to sign with a team of hooligans. Do the Bengals need a 3rd receiver? :huh:

[Fran]

OMG! Mee! :up:

[NewYorkSpider]

Yeah, Randy needs to sign with a team of hooligans. Do the Bengals need a 3rd receiver? :huh:

If he goes to the Bengals he will get arrested.

[Cmill216]

Thomas Jones traded to the Jets. :wow:

[NewYorkSpider]

Thomas Jones traded to Jets.:wow:

[Fran]

I don't see that anywhere.

[NewYorkSpider]

It was on Sportscenter as Breaking News.

[Cmill216]

Editastic.

[Fran]

Now I just switched to ESPN HD.

That is shocking news!

[Kaleb]

and Joey harrington and Randy mcmicheal have been relased from the fins

[Ben Urich]

Michael Wilbon is going to kill himself. :csad:

[Fran]

My buddy is a diehard Jones fan. He's gonna be pissed, and I just text messaged him about it.

[Cmill216]

That's a fantastic move for New York. That was really their biggest need in terms of being able to challenge New England for the East.

[Ben Urich]

He's gonna text you back like MOTHER****ER YOU TAKE THAT BACK **** YOU MAN THAT'S NOT FUNNY IT'S NOT TRUE YOU LYING SACK OF ****.

[Fran]

He'll probably get on AIM ASAP.

[Mister J]

Might be old but: Travis Henry Signs With Broncos (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2788592)

Thomas Jones traded to the Jets. :wow:
Didn't see that coming. I guess they feel better about Benson than I thought. :huh:
and Joey harrington and Randy mcmicheal have been relased from the fins
Not surprised. Harringont's decent as a backup, but they're really high on Cleo Lemon, assuming Daunte can't get it done. McMichael's cap hit didn't add up given the contribution level.

[NewYorkSpider]

Here's the link to the Jets/Bears deal for Jones.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2788962

[Mister J]

According to league sources, the Bears have agreed to trade RB Thomas Jones and a 2007 second-round pick (No. 63 overall) to the Jets for a 2007 second-round pick -- No. 37 overall
Thomas Jones > 26 draft spots higher in the 2nd round. :dry:

[Showtime]

I dont understand that Thomas Jones trade at all for the Bears?

[Mister J]

I can see wanting to deal him if he wants a new deal (seeing how numerous reports have surfaced how tight the Bears are in the wallet), but they could have done A LOT better. The Jets got the best of this, by far.

[Mee]

Benson and Grossman. Beware that fearsome Bears backfield!! :eek:

[Showtime]

I can see wanting to deal him if he wants a new deal (seeing how numerous reports have surfaced how tight the Bears are in the wallet), but they could have done A LOT better. The Jets got the best of this, by far.

I am with you there Mr. J. I don't see this benefiting the Bears in the least, unless they have a trick up their sleeve. They are already shaky at QB in my opinion.

[ScottyBBadd]

and Joey harrington and Randy mcmicheal have been relased from the fins

I hope the Boys sign one or both.

[Mister J]

Patrick Kerney Agrees to 6Y/39.5M Deal With Seahawks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2789120)

Cowboys Sign Brad Johnson To 3 Year Deal (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2788983)

[Ben Urich]

The **** is Brad Johnson gonna do in Dallas apart from hold clipboards. :huh:
... hold field goals? :o

[Cmill216]

Maybe....just maybe.....mentor Tony Romo??

[Mister J]

It's a good idea for Dallas to bring in someone to be a reliable backup (which is all Drew the Statue was going to do). Plus, as cmill mentioned, he can help Romo's development.

[ScottyBBadd]

Maybe....just maybe.....mentor Tony Romo??

That is just why he was signed.

[Ben Urich]

Maybe....just maybe.....mentor Tony Romo??

He'll learn from the best. :dry:

[Cmill216]

He'll learn from the best. :dry:

All he's done has won a Super Bowl, played in the Pro Bowl, and has the experience of a 16 year vet.

[Showtime]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2788847

The New England Patriots acquired three-year veteran wide receiver Wes Welker from the Miami Dolphins on Monday.

In exchange, New England sent an undisclosed draft picks to Miami. SI.com is reporting that the Patriots are sending their 2007 second- and seventh-round draft picks to Miami in exchange for Welker.

ESPN.com first reported Saturday that the Patriots planned to sign Welker to a restricted free agent offer sheet. But the two teams obviously decided to avoid the red-tape and uncertainty that accompanies such a transaction and opted for a trade instead.

[Showtime]

Receiver en route :

By Mike Reiss, Globe Staff | March 6, 2007

After signing linebacker Adalius Thomas, tight end Kyle Brady, and running back Sammy Morris Saturday -- and acquiring Welker yesterday -- one might think the Patriots' offseason would be slowing down. Not so, as the team is expected to host free agent receiver Donte' Stallworth today. Stallworth played for the Eagles last season, appearing in 12 games and totaling 38 receptions for 725 yards (19.1-yard average) and five touchdowns.

He entered the league in 2002 with the Saints as a first-round draft choice, and caught a career-high 70 passes in 2005. He was traded to the Eagles last August. The 6-foot, 196-pound Stallworth, who yesterday received a contract offer to return to the Eagles, is also scheduled to meet with the Titans. Stallworth is in the NFL's substance-abuse program, according to a report in yesterday's Philadelphia Inquirer, which might be affecting the interest in him in free agency.

[Showtime]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/scorecard/03/05/truth.rumors.nfl/index.html?eref=si_nfl

The Patriots have shown interest in dealing for Randy Moss. A source said Bill Belichick believes he could motivate Moss to play and that he'd have the locker room support system to back him up, thanks to high-character veterans like Tom Brady, Richard Seymour and Rodney Harrison.
-- Boston Herald

[Byrd Man]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/scorecard/03/05/truth.rumors.nfl/index.html?eref=si_nfl

The Patriots have shown interest in dealing for Randy Moss. A source said Bill Belichick believes he could motivate Moss to play and that he'd have the locker room support system to back him up, thanks to high-character veterans like Tom Brady, Richard Seymour and Rodney Harrison.
-- Boston Herald

Belichick could do it. I mean as soon as Corey Dillon got on the Pats he shut the hell up and ran the ball, but him being on a winning team for a change had a lot to do with shutting him up.

[Memphis Slim]

Texans come to agreement with Ahman Green.

Green????? If I'm a Texan fan, I'm like this....


http://img9.mediabistro.net/blogs-mbtoolbox-original-Frustrated-Man-thumb.jpg

Green is like a '79 Monte Carlo, now!!! They were sure to pick very high in the draft!! Why not pick a young stud back who's fresh??? What are they doing?? Geeez!!! Especially when they passed on Reggie Bush last year!!

[Showtime]

Joey Porter = Miami Dolphins

[Prognosticator]

Now I just switched to ESPN HD.

That is shocking news!

It's so much better, isn't it!?

I dont understand that Thomas Jones trade at all for the Bears?

And Lance Briggs says he'll hold out if they try to franchise him! He wants out too. LOL!

[kane9321]

cmon..joey porter to the 49ers...it can happen

[Kaleb]

cmon..joey porter to the 49ers...it can happen
not anymore, didnt you get the memo he is a fin now

[kane9321]

no wha ..when

[Kaleb]

no wha ..when

television station in Pittsburgh is reporting free agent LB Joey Porter will sign a five-year, $24 million contract with the Miami Dolphins.

The report says Porter will get $12 million to sign, a hefty figure, but this is a great addition to coordinator Dom Capers' defense. Porter, 30 in March, should still have three-to-four quality years left and is a big upgrade over Donnie Spragan. Miami could still add linebacker help in the draft.
Source: Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

[kane9321]

thanks kaleb:(

[Mister J]

Belichick could do it. I mean as soon as Corey Dillon got on the Pats he shut the hell up and ran the ball, but him being on a winning team for a change had a lot to do with shutting him up.
I don't know. Dillon always ran his mouth and was a bit selfish when he found himself out of the mix (behind the emergence of Rudi Johnson) when Cinci finally started winning games. However, I don't recall anybody ever questioning his passion for the game or his effort. Randy was an ass even when Minnesota was winning and making regular trips to the playoffs. That 'I play when I want to' crap and him routinely giving up on plays happened when he was still a prominent receiver on a good team. It's the same garbage in Oakland. He popped off last year about how hard it was for him to play hard for a losing team. What a lazy ****! Moss just comes across as the type of guy who wants it his way, all the time. I wouldn't want him on my squad. Too high of a possibility of him flipping out...again. Beyond that, he looks to have lost a step and no longer seems to have that explosion and raw athleticism that made him the most feared deep threat in the game. Take into account that he was never a great route runner and this looks riskier than it sounds. IMO, they'd be much better off with Stallworth.

Green????? If I'm a Texan fan, I'm like this....


Green is like a '79 Monte Carlo, now!!! They were sure to pick very high in the draft!! Why not pick a young stud back who's fresh??? What are they doing?? Geeez!!! Especially when they passed on Reggie Bush last year!!
It's definitely a head-scratcher. I'd have rolled the dice on trying to draft Peterson or even going after (a younger) Travis Henry. Green has been productive, but a bit injury-prone in the last couple of years. A new 4Y/23M deal for a 30 year old RB just gets a :confused: out of me. Besides, they need to be figuring out a way to keep their QB from getting knocked down every other play.
Joey Porter = Miami Dolphins
Now this, I like. :cool: :up:

Dolphins Land LB Porter With 5-Year Deal (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2789401)

[dr venture]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/scorecard/03/05/truth.rumors.nfl/index.html?eref=si_nfl

The Patriots have shown interest in dealing for Randy Moss. A source said Bill Belichick believes he could motivate Moss to play and that he'd have the locker room support system to back him up, thanks to high-character veterans like Tom Brady, Richard Seymour and Rodney Harrison.
-- Boston Herald

If the Patriots got Randy Moss, it would be ridiculous

[Showtime]

Ridiculously good.

[Ben Urich]

Are the Dolphins interested in Randy Moss? Because they should be. :csad::up:

[Fran]

Does J know the Dolphins got Joey Porter?

[Mister J]

Does J know the Dolphins got Joey Porter?


Now this, I like. :cool: :up:

Dolphins Land LB Porter With 5-Year Deal (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2789401)
:hyper:

[Fran]

Does J know I have an awesome avatar?

[Kaleb]

does J know his fly is undone ?

[Mister J]

Does J know I have an awesome avatar?
T3h Venomz. LoL!!1!1!!
does J know his fly is undone ?
Guess I picked the wrong day to go commando. :csad::o

...not really. :oldrazz:

...maybe. :ninja:

[Ben Urich]

It should say Vgnomes! and Venom's mouth opens to reveal the Travelocity Roaming Gnome. :o

[Mister J]

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/4996/biglaughlh5.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[bored]

Ghostrider87 is just a very peculiar poster, who happens to be a die-hard Tennessee Titans fan. He has, in the past, gotten very mad at people who criticize the Titans, even when they lost their first six or so games last season.



On a different note, what can people tell me about a former Viking linebacker named Napoleon Harris? He just signed with the Chiefs, and will probably be the starter next season, since Kawika Mitchell is either going to sign with another team or be moved to the outside (which I think he'd be perfect for).

[Mister J]

IIRC, Harris was involved in the Randy Moss trade (coming from Oakland). High profile guy (might have been first round). Showed some good promise with the Raiders, then I didn't hear much from him in Minnesota. I suppose he's still young enough to make an impact, but I'm guessing he didn't pan out the way the Vikings had hoped.

[Ghostrider87]

The Titans have resigned Kerry Collins.

I also noticed that the Dolphins signed Joey Porter. I still think that the Dolphins are still going to have another losing season.

[Boom]

Here's hoping the Bengals do better this season.

[Mister J]

Dammit! The Pimp of yon Hooters has found this place. :cmad::csad::cmad:
The Titans have resigned Kerry Collins.

I also noticed that the Dolphins signed Joey Porter. I still think that the Dolphins are still going to have another losing season.
Joey Porter is more of a man than you. :up:

[Showtime]

The Titans have resigned Kerry Collins.

I also noticed that the Dolphins signed Joey Porter. I still think that the Dolphins are still going to have another losing season.

At this point the Dolphins are on their way to putting together a strong team, if Culpepper is healthy he will have a big weapon. Who else did the Dolphins sign.

Let's face it the Titans are only as good as Vince Young. Vince Young energized the entire team and saved Jeff Fisher's job. Jeff Fisher should be doing Young's laundry this year.

[Fran]

Dude, Morg deleted the posts, doesn't even bother to explain himself! HAHAHAHA! :down:down :elisha:

[Mister J]

I like how he points out the Collins resigning like it's a good thing.

[Showtime]

I noticed my post disappeared? And some weird drawings too?

[Mister J]

Dude, Morg deleted the posts, doesn't even bother to explain himself! HAHAHAHA! :down:down :elisha:
Tell me Ben momentarily snapped and posted some porn, cursed someone out or something like that. Posting that 'picture :whatever:' with the caption that he did isn't worthy of probation. :confused:

[Fran]

Wait, WHAT HAPPENED TO BEN?!?!?

[Ghostrider87]

At this point the Dolphins are on their way to putting together a strong team, if Culpepper is healthy he will have a big weapon. Who else did the Dolphins sign.

Let's face it the Titans are only as good as Vince Young. Vince Young energized the entire team and saved Jeff Fisher's job. Jeff Fisher should be doing Young's laundry this year.

The Dolphins will probally just still have another losing season. They will have another losing season whether or not SI picks them as a losing or a winning team.

The Titans are going to be able to sign more free agents. The Titans are going to be a better team than they were last year. You forget that Pacman Jones has been showing why the Titans drafted him. The Titans are going to return to the playoffs.

[Fran]

GR, is Drew Bennett pretty good, was he solid for the Titans? I haven't gotten time to watch Titans games this year, or even Rams games for that matter.

[StorminNorman]

The Dolphins will probally just still have another losing season if they are not picked to go the playoffs.



The Titans are going to be able to sign more free agents. The Titans are going to be a better team than they were last year. You forget that Pacman Jones has been showing why the Titans drafted him. The Titans are going to return to the playoffs.
:dry:


...Wait...Did you really just bring up PacMan Jones?

*rereads post*

:dry:



You really did, you brought up PacMan Jones. You are trying to tell me that the Titans drafted PacMan to be in criminal investigation after criminal investigation - ruining the leagues image at the same time. That is why the Titans are looking at GETTING RID OF Mr. Jones.

[Fran]

Yeah, the Pacman part is a weak statement. He's just a thug for the Titans, and he's gonna be cut if he keeps his act up.

[Showtime]

The Dolphins will probally just still have another losing season if they are not picked to go the playoffs.



The Titans are going to be able to sign more free agents. The Titans are going to be a better team than they were last year. You forget that Pacman Jones has been showing why the Titans drafted him. The Titans are going to return to the playoffs.

The Dolphins are probably the on their way to being the 3rd best team in the division behind the Patriots and the Jets. They do have a strong defense though and play the Patriots tough twice a year.

Pacman Jones has disgraced himself and his team and might never play in the NFL again because of his actions. The only thing he's showing the Titans is that they made a horrible judgement of his character.

[Mister J]

The Dolphins will probally just still have another losing season if they are not picked to go the playoffs.
:dry:

What the hell does this even mean? :huh:

The Titans are going to be able to sign more free agents. The Titans are going to be a better team than they were last year. You forget that Pacman Jones has been showing why the Titans drafted him. The Titans are going to return to the playoffs.
Thug Life? Really Thug Life Adam Jones? The same clown who you so brilliantly stated was 'going to get his act together' and 'stay out of trouble'? :D

This statement is so ridiculous that the jokes practically write themselves. With his fantastic Vegas escapades, Adam Jones just proved you wrong. :up:

[Ghostrider87]

:dry:


...Wait...Did you really just bring up PacMan Jones?

*rereads post*

:dry:



You really did, you brought up PacMan Jones. You are trying to tell me that the Titans drafted PacMan to be in criminal investigation after criminal investigation - ruining the leagues image at the same time. That is why the Titans are looking at GETTING RID OF Mr. Jones.

He was drafted to return punt returns for tds which he has been doing. I believe that he will be a top cornerback for the Titans this upcoming season. Vince Young will pick up where he left off by helping the Titans return to the playoffs.

[Fran]

But GR, you haven't touched on the fact that he's being arrested so much this off-season.

[StorminNorman]

He was drafted to return punt returns for tds which he has been doing. I believe that he will be a top cornerback for the Titans this upcoming season. Vince Young will pick up where he left off by helping the Titans return to the playoffs.

He was drafted to play football - he can't do that if he is behind bars.

[Showtime]

He was drafted to return punt returns for tds which he has been doing. I believe that he will be a top cornerback for the Titans this upcoming season. Vince Young will pick up where he left off by helping the Titans return to the playoffs.

You do realize what happened with Pacman Jones right? He's gotten in a little bit of trouble...

Why is his nickname Pacman anyway? He's been in the league one year and had 4 interceptions?

[Mister J]

Wait, WHAT HAPPENED TO BEN?!?!?
I don't know. Caught me off guard as well. Although, judging by what posts mysteriously disappeared and the sudden and specific mod presence, I'm guessing somebody's itty-bitty feelings got hurt and they went off crying about it. :whatever:

[LostSon88]

Man....I can't wait for next season...I got a really good vibe about my Niners next year.

All the moves they've made thus far have been excellent! Ashley Lelie (I'll give em' a chance to redeem himself in SF), no more Bryant, 8 picks in the draft...

But what really got me stoked? That defensive backfield man...one of our weakest positions the last 3-4 seasons...

Michael Lewis
Walt Harris
Nate Clements

Maybe now we'll finally be able to stop Boldin and Fitzgerald and dominate the NFC West! Seriously, its a trip how we handled both the Rams and the Seahawks this season yet get swept by the Cards?

Can't wait. :woot:

[StorminNorman]

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f39/StorminNormanTho/FBU.jpg

[Showtime]

I don't know. Caught me off guard as well. Although, judging by what posts mysteriously disappeared and the sudden and specific mod presence, I'm guessing somebody's itty-bitty feelings got hurt and they went off crying about it. :whatever:

Because of the picture of he created hero? I dont get it.

[Showtime]

Back to NFL football talk and let's start with my home team...The New England Patriots...

Donte Stalworth has signed a 5-6 year deal for 30 million to catch passes from Tom Brady. Please also note the Patriots are still in the hunt for Randy Moss. What is going on in New England?

[Showtime]

Patriots re-sign special teamer Izzo
http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/NE/10043322
NFL.com wire reports

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. (March 6, 2007) -- The Patriots re-signed unrestricted free agent linebacker Larry Izzo, keeping their special teams captain who played on New England's three Super Bowl championship teams.

Izzo, 32, has spent the last six of his 11 NFL seasons with the Patriots. He was named to the Pro Bowl three times, the last following the 2004 season.

Izzo has made 229 career special team tackles and 18 defensive tackles in 156 regular-season games. He also has an interception, a forced fumble and two fumble recoveries.

Izzo, who spent his first five seasons in Miami, has led the Patriots in special teams tackles in five of six seasons.

[Machx72]

Hell, Pacman Jones is gone this season.

If they draft a corner in the first round... He's screwed.

And Joey Porter signed with the Dolphins. Being a Steelers [and Saints] fan, I really couldn't care less that he's gone. He did nothing but trash-talk, and didn't help much this season.

[Dark Donnie]

Back to NFL football talk and let's start with my home team...The New England Patriots...

Donte Stalworth has signed a 5-6 year deal for 30 million to catch passes from Tom Brady. Please also note the Patriots are still in the hunt for Randy Moss. What is going on in New England?

Donte no done deal: Stallworth mulls it over
Mar. 7 - 12:40 am et

Donte Stallworth came and went from Foxboro yesterday without a signed contract, which is a departure from the way the Patriots have done business so far this dizzying free agency season.

[Showtime]

Comcast Sports & Nesn reported the deal being done this morning. Your report above is from an article that was actually ran the morning of the 6th and updated again on the 7th by Michael Felger of the Boston Herald.

Not saying that one report is more correct than the other, but there are conflicting reports.

[Dark Donnie]

Comcast Sports & Nesn reported the deal being done this morning. Your report above is from an article that was actually ran the morning of the 6th and updated again on the 7th by Michael Felger of the Boston Herald.

Not saying that one report is more correct than the other, but there are conflicting reports.

I saw Comcast last night and they said they jumped the gun and Rosenhaus was unavailable for comment.

POSTED 7:39 p.m. EST; LAST UPDATED 8:38 p.m. EST, March 6, 2007

STILL NO DEAL FOR STALLWORTH

Contrary to a report on ComcastSportsNet.com that receiver Donte' Stallworth has a deal with the New England Patriots, Profootballtalk.com has learned that there is no agreement.

ComcastSportsNet.com says that the deal was "confirmed . . . by the office of Drew Rosenhaus, Stallworth's agent."

Well, we tracked down Rosenhaus personally, and he told us: "There is no deal, and nothing is imminent."

Stallworth visited with the Patriots on Tuesday, and will next visit with the Titans, and then with the Dolphins. No decision on his next destination is expected until the end of the week, at the earliest.

[UPDATE: ComcastSportsNet.com has revised its story, calling the reports of a deal 'premature." In true Tribune-Review fashin, the reference to confirmation from the office of Drew Rosenhaus has been scrubbed out of the story.]

Also:

Reports of Stallworth Signing with Patriots Premature

ComcastSportsNet.com

Donté Stallworth has not signed with anyone, yet.

The Eagles' free-agent receiver visited the Patriots Tuesday and was offered a six-year contract worth a reported $32 million. A deal has not been completed.

According to reports, Stallworth is scheduled to visit Tennessee and Miami. The Eagles reportedly offered Stallworth a contract on Monday.

In 12 games last season, his first with the Eagles after arriving in a trade with the Saints, Stallworth had 38 receptions for 725 yards and five touchdowns. He missed four games with a hamstring injury.

The Eagles acquired Stallworth from the Saints for linebacker Mark Simoneau and a conditional draft pick. If the Eagles re-sign Stallworth, they will send New Orleans a fourth-round pick.

[Showtime]

I saw Comcast last night and they said they jumped the gun and Rosenhaus was unavailable for comment.

POSTED 7:39 p.m. EST; LAST UPDATED 8:38 p.m. EST, March 6, 2007

STILL NO DEAL FOR STALLWORTH

Contrary to a report on ComcastSportsNet.com that receiver Donte' Stallworth has a deal with the New England Patriots, Profootballtalk.com has learned that there is no agreement.

ComcastSportsNet.com says that the deal was "confirmed . . . by the office of Drew Rosenhaus, Stallworth's agent."

Well, we tracked down Rosenhaus personally, and he told us: "There is no deal, and nothing is imminent."

Stallworth visited with the Patriots on Tuesday, and will next visit with the Titans, and then with the Dolphins. No decision on his next destination is expected until the end of the week, at the earliest.

[UPDATE: ComcastSportsNet.com has revised its story, calling the reports of a deal 'premature." In true Tribune-Review fashin, the reference to confirmation from the office of Drew Rosenhaus has been scrubbed out of the story.]

Also:

Reports of Stallworth Signing with Patriots Premature

ComcastSportsNet.com

Donté Stallworth has not signed with anyone, yet.

The Eagles' free-agent receiver visited the Patriots Tuesday and was offered a six-year contract worth a reported $32 million. A deal has not been completed.

According to reports, Stallworth is scheduled to visit Tennessee and Miami. The Eagles reportedly offered Stallworth a contract on Monday.

In 12 games last season, his first with the Eagles after arriving in a trade with the Saints, Stallworth had 38 receptions for 725 yards and five touchdowns. He missed four games with a hamstring injury.

The Eagles acquired Stallworth from the Saints for linebacker Mark Simoneau and a conditional draft pick. If the Eagles re-sign Stallworth, they will send New Orleans a fourth-round pick.

What can I expect from Comcast Sports I guess, but that doesn't dispute the NESN report. Unless the NESN report was based on the Comcast report.

I doubt that Stalworth will be signing with Miami, the Porter signing could help or hurt the chances of that happening. Tennessee would be an attractive place to play with the emergence of Young, we'll see what happens in the next couple days.

[Cmill216]

Hello Roto:

Profootballtalk.com reports that Jake Plummer is "bluffing" about his plans to retire.

It's believed Plummer wants to play for Houston, and that he very well may get dealt there in the end. Plummer posted a message on his website saying thanks to his fans, but hasn't formally filed retirement paperwork with the NFL.

[Kaleb]

Bills | Team working on sending McGahee to Baltimore
Wed, 7 Mar 2007 12:56:54 -0800

ESPNews reports the Baltimore Ravens are working with the Buffalo Bills on a trade to acquire Bills RB Willis McGahee.

[Kaleb]

Its Official: Joe Horn gets to handle Vicks balls next season.

Falcons agreed to terms with Joe Horn.

Horn would be a poor signing for most teams at his age. But for Bobby Petrino's vertical offense, Horn's consistent hands and veteran presence is a nice addition. Horn has missed 9 games in two years and Atlanta is unlikely to be an above-average passing attack, so don't expect Horn to be a top-15 fantasy wideout again.

[Machx72]

I don't think Donte should, nor that he will, sign with the Titans. Being the fastest receiver in the league, he'd be utilized more should he go to a team with a slower-and-less-likely-to-run quarterback like Damon Huard [I'm pretty sure Trent Green is gone] or Alex Smith...

Or hell, even Tom Brady.

[StorminNorman]

A real receiver...in Atlanta?

Sexy :up:

[Cmill216]

Hopefully this means Atlanta won't feel the need to sell the kitchen sink to move up to take Calvin Johnson. :up:

[Fran]

cmill, if the Bucs take Calvin, what will you do?

If they don't take Calvin?

[Kaleb]

I really feel that the raiders will proberbly take calvin Johnson he is the best player in the draft......a WR trio of CJ, porter and curry makes me hot in my danger zone......i dont think the organization is ready to give up on walter,

[Byrd Man]

I really feel that the raiders will proberbly take calvin Johnson he is the best player in the draft......a WR trio of CJ, porter and curry makes me hot in my danger zone......i dont think the organization is ready to give up on walter,

Then you don't know Al Davis. The man has some form of dementia. Although, Calvin would look damn good in Silver & Black.

[Kaleb]

we should organize a mock draft with each of us representing our fav teams

[Cmill216]

cmill, if the Bucs take Calvin, what will you do?

Be very happy. :huh:

I ain't gonna dance in the middle of the streets naked, but it'd be a great pick.

If they don't take Calvin?

Punch a Mexican stripper in the uterus.

I really feel that the raiders will proberbly take calvin Johnson he is the best player in the draft......a WR trio of CJ, porter and curry makes me hot in my danger zone......i dont think the organization is ready to give up on walter,

I've visited many Raiders fan boards, and no one seems to like the idea of them taking Calvin Johnson. They want them some JaMarcus Russell.

If his (Russell's) pro day workout is solid, and he shows off that size and arm strength, Oakland will snatch him up. Especially considering that if they still need receivers, this draft is deep with 'em.

[Fran]

I knew you'd at least be happy, but I wanted to know your actual reaction, etc.

[Cmill216]

I knew you'd at least be happy, but I wanted to know your actual reaction, etc.

I'd probably be like, "Yeah! Thank you!", then proceed to have sex with a midget while watching the Cardinals on the clock.

[Fran]

Awesome :up:

[NewYorkSpider]

Al Davis has said he has no intrest in trading Randy Moss unless he gets something good. Remember when they tried to trade Jerry Porter. They requested two first-round draft picks. I think Moss stays put.

So I don't think that Calvin Johnson is on the top of their list. I'd draft Russell and draft a reciever later.

[NewYorkSpider]

Jamal Lewis to sign with the Browns.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/CLE/10045850

[bored]

I don't think Donte should, nor that he will, sign with the Titans. Being the fastest receiver in the league, he'd be utilized more should he go to a team with a slower-and-less-likely-to-run quarterback like Damon Huard [I'm pretty sure Trent Green is gone] or Alex Smith...

Or hell, even Tom Brady.



Stallworth? A Chief? I want this!

[bored]

He was drafted to return punt returns for tds which he has been doing. I believe that he will be a top cornerback for the Titans this upcoming season. Vince Young will pick up where he left off by helping the Titans return to the playoffs.


No doubt he's proved himself more than capable on the field, but remember that there's no guarantee that the Titans will want to keep him, which would seriously hurt their defense. Vince can't win every game himself.

[Mister J]

I think Stallworth would look awfully spiffy in aqua and orange. He and Chambers on the end, Ronnie Brown (and maybe Ricky) joining a fully rehabbed Daunte. Me likey. :hyper:

Huzienga and Mueller, make it happen! :cmad: :ninja:

[ScottyBBadd]

I like how he points out the Collins resigning like it's a good thing.

Conidering the "veteran back ups" avalable. I mean the Boys signed Brad Johnson.

[ScottyBBadd]

we should organize a mock draft with each of us representing our fav teams

I like. Put me down for Dallas.

[Mister J]

I understand the value in having a quality backup, as an insurance policy and mentor, but I think Collins is extremely limited there. I'd take Johnson over him any day. Collins got benched and eventually ran out of Oakland ...OAKLAND. Their QB situation is so bad, they might as well be having open tryouts at the position. They still cut him. On top of that, Tennessee brought Collins in last year and he gummed up the works so bad in 2 or 3 games that he got yanked for a rookie. What exactly is Collins going to contribute to a guy who easily took his job?

[ScottyBBadd]

I understand the value in having a quality backup, as an insurance policy and mentor, but I think Collins is extremely limited there. I'd take Johnson over him any day. Collins got benched and eventually ran out of Oakland ...OAKLAND. Their QB situation is so bad, they might as well be having open tryouts at the position. They still cut him. On top of that, Tennessee brought Collins in last year and he gummed up the works so bad in 2 or 3 games that he got yanked for a rookie. What exactly is Collins going to contribute to a guy who easily took his job?

Good point. All I was saing there was not much out there.

[Mister J]

True and you do need someone with experience in that role. I just think Collins is done.

[Prognosticator]

Jamal Lewis to the Browns, Joe Horn to the Falcons; done deal.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/browns/2007-03-07-lewis_N.htm

Jamal Lewis agrees to deal with Browns
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The Cleveland Browns are happy to have Jamal Lewis on their side.


By Tom Withers, The Associated Press
CLEVELAND — The Browns finally tackled Jamal Lewis.
Unable to reach a deal to remain in Baltimore, the free agent running back signed a one-year deal on Wednesday with Cleveland, the team he blistered for an NFL single-game record 295 yards in 2003.

Lewis was released last week in a salary-cap move by the Ravens, who elected not to pay their career rushing leader a $5 million roster bonus. He'll now join the Browns, Baltimore's AFC North rival, who were last in the league in rushing in 2006.

"We are pleased to add Jamal Lewis to our team," Browns general manager Phil Savage said in a statement. "He is a proven NFL back who brings a toughness and demeanor to the game that his teammates and our fans will appreciate."

Lewis, 27, visited the Browns on Wednesday and decided to sign with the team before leaving town or talking to another team.

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Financial terms were not immediately available.

Lewis' agent, Mitch Frankel, did not return several messages seeking comment.

With the Ravens reportedly interested in acquiring Buffalo running back Willis McGahee, Lewis decided to look elsewhere and found a fit with the Browns — one of the teams he has torched while rushing for 7,801 yards and 45 TDs in seven seasons.

Lewis spent the afternoon at the Browns' facilities in suburban Berea, meeting with Savage and coach Romeo Crennel. Savage was with the Ravens in 2000 when the club drafted Lewis in the first round out of Tennessee.

Lewis, the NFL's Offensive Player of the Year in 2003, is an upgrade at running back for the Browns, who now have to figure out what to do with feature back Reuben Droughns. They owe Droughns a $1.75 million roster bonus later this month, but may choose to cut him instead.

Slowed by injuries, Droughns rushed for just 758 yards last season after gaining 1,232 yards in 2005 — the first Cleveland back to eclipse 1,000 yards since 1985.

Crennel recently said that he isn't dissatisfied with Droughns.

"He has shown us that he does have the ability, that he can be a productive runner for us," Crennel said. "I expect him to get back to that form that he had. That 1,200-yard form. That's what I'm looking for."

Adding Lewis also gives the Browns more options as they plan for April's college draft. The club was believed to be targeting Oklahoma's Adrian Peterson with the No. 3 overall pick, but with Lewis on his roster, Savage may be able to address other needs.

In 2003, Lewis rushed for 2,066 yards, the second-highest total in league history. Last season, he ran for 1,132 yards and nine touchdowns, but averaged just 3.6 yards per carry. He recently underwent surgery to remove bone spurs from his ankle.

Two years ago, Lewis served time in prison after a guilty plea to using a cellphone to set up a drug buy.

A powerful, punishing runner, Lewis is the type of between-the-tackles back the Browns have desperately needed since returning to the league in 1999. His signing will help Cleveland's deplorable running game, which got a boost last week when the club signed free agent offensive lineman Eric Steinbach to a seven-year, $49.5 million deal.

[Prognosticator]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/falcons/2007-03-08-horn-signing_N.htm

Falcons sign WR Joe Horn


ATLANTA (AP) — The Atlanta Falcons have reached an agreement with veteran free agent receiver Joe Horn, who is expected to play a lead role in new coach Bobby Petrino's efforts to balance the offense.
Team spokesman Reggie Roberts said a 6 p.m. news conference has been scheduled to introduce Horn, the former four-time Pro Bowl player with New Orleans.

Horn, 35, has missed nine games the last two seasons with groin and hamstring injuries, including six games last season. Negotiations with the Falcons gained momentum after Horn passed a physical exam administered by the team.

Horn told the New Orleans Times-Picayune the Falcons are offering him $19 million over four years, including a guaranteed $7.5 million in the first two years.

"The coaching staff wanted me to come here, needed me here," Horn told the newspaper Wednesday night. "I felt loved. I felt wanted from the front office to the janitors. I knew I would be treated with dignity and respect."

FIND MORE STORIES IN: NFL | WR | Falcons | Joe Horn | Free-agent | Bobby Petrino | HORN
The Falcons led the NFL in rushing for the third straight year but finished last with only 148 yards passing per game. Petrino plans to add more three- and four-receiver sets to the Michael Vick-led offense, making receiver one of the offseason areas of emphasis. The Falcons lost free-agent receiver Ashley Lelie to San Francisco.

Horn will join the team as a starter but also will be called on to serve as a position leader for Michael Jenkins and Roddy White, first-round picks who have struggled with inconsistency.

Tight end Alge Crumpler led the team with 56 receptions last season. Among receivers, Jenkins was the leader with 39 catches for 436 yards and seven touchdowns.

Despite missing six games, Horn had 37 catches for 679 yards and four touchdowns last season.

From 2000-2004, Horn recorded four 1,000-yard seasons with the Saints. He set highs with 94 catches in 2000 and again in 2004.

[Kaleb]

Yo where's Hooters pimp at :o

TITANS DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT RAIN MAN'S '06 ARRESTS

That the Tennessee Titans admit that they did not know about the two early 2006 arrests of cornerback Rain Man Jones for obstruction and marijuana possession.

"We were unaware of what happened over a year ago," coach Jeff Fisher said in a radio interview.

And, as we explained last week, the fact that Jones didn't disclose the charges puts him in line for potential discipline under the Personal Conduct Policy, regardless of the outcome of the cases. The marijuana possession charges previously were dismissed, after two other people (including Jones' mother) persuaded authorities that the pot found in Jones' Fayette County, Georgia house was theirs. Felony and misdemeanor obstruction charges, based in part on allegations that Rain Man went Pacman on a police offer in February 2006, are still pending.

The fact that Jones didn't fess up to the charges gives the league an easy way to take serious action against him. An NFL player's failure to report a criminal arrest is, in the Internet age, unprecedented, since word of the incident inevitably makes its way to those like us who are inclined to publicize it. So the NFL can basically pick the penalty, since there's no past event to which this one could be compared.

Though on one hand Jones' failure to report the alleged crimes gives the NFL a silver bullet, if it chooses to use it, for ridding the league of a guy who could find trouble in a convent, taking a firm stand on this point would send a strong message to every other player about the importance of owning up to their transgressions.

Bottom line -- if you fail to come clean, you face serious consequences.

And this is no mere technicality. If/when an active player is accused of a crime, the league wants to be able to evaluate the situation early, long before the Cheese Whiz is made. (If you don't get that one, scroll down.) More importantly, failure to disclose the arrest undermines the integrity of the system. How, after all, can the league take appropriate action against a criminal offender if no one bothers to tell the league that there was a criminal offense?

It really isn't a problem that will come up very often, and we're amazed that the story went undetected for as long as it did. But that's all the more reason for the league to make an example out of Rain Man -- especially since making an example out of him will in this specific case save the Titans and the league from all of the future embarrassments that he is sure to cause.

Well hooters ,what do you have to say about that.

[Showtime]

Now he's Rain-Man. Why does this guy even deserve a nickname?

[Fran]

StorminNorman!!!!!!! We must fight to the death!

[Kaleb]

aparently Willis MGahee has been traded to ravens for a 2nd and 5th round pick

[Showtime]

aparently Willis MGahee has been traded to ravens for a 2nd and 5th round pick

Why would the Bills do that? Is MGahee near the end of his contract? They're going to sign up Dillion to replace him? Oh man.

[Prognosticator]

when does Buffalo draft? 11th? 12th? are they looking to trade up?

[Kaleb]

My fault it was a 3rd and 7th round pick and a 3rd nxt yr for the bills.

[Dark Donnie]

My fault it was a 3rd and 7th round pick and a 3rd nxt yr for the bills.

Not a good trade for the BIlls IMO

[Showtime]

I agree with you Dark, I can't make sense of it.

[Dark Donnie]

It seems like there trying to get worse...they gotten rid of there two best players(McGahee, Clements) and are dangling there last one Spikes, whose been the subject of trade talks

[StorminNorman]

New Mock Draft from Yahoo. I think it is God Awful Personally:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jm-mockdraft030707&prov=yhoo&type=lgns - The explanations they gave were too long to fit on this page - so there is a link.

1. Oakland Raiders – JaMarcus Russell, quarterback, LSU.
Detroit 2. Detroit Lions – Joe Thomas, offensive tackle, Wisconsin.
Cleveland 3. Cleveland Browns – Adrian Peterson, running back, Oklahoma.
Tampa Bay 4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Calvin Johnson, wide receiver, Georgia Tech.
Arizona 5. Arizona Cardinals – Jamaal Anderson, defensive lineman, Arkansas.
Washington 6. Washington Redskins – Gaines Adams, defensive end, Clemson.
Minnesota 7. Minnesota Vikings – Brady Quinn, quarterback, Notre Dame.
Houston 8. Houston Texans – LaRon Landry, safety, LSU.
Miami 9. Miami Dolphins – Alan Branch, defensive lineman, Michigan.
Atlanta 10. Atlanta Falcons – Chris Houston, cornerback, Arkansas.
San Francisco 11. San Francisco 49ers – Adam Carriker, defensive lineman, Nebraska.
Buffalo 12. Buffalo Bills – Patrick Willis, linebacker, Mississippi.
St. Louis 13. St. Louis Rams – Amobi Okoye, defensive tackle, Louisville.
Carolina 14. Carolina Panthers – Levi Brown, offensive tackle, Penn State.
Pittsburgh 15. Pittsburgh Steelers – Leon Hall, cornerback, Michigan.
Green Bay 16. Green Bay Packers – Ted Ginn Jr., wide receiver/kick returner, Ohio State.
Jacksonville 17. Jacksonville Jaguars – Reggie Nelson, defensive back, Florida.
Cincinnati 18. Cincinnati Bengals – Jon Beason, linebacker, Miami (Fla.).
Tennessee 19. Tennessee Titans – Robert Meachem, wide receiver, Tennessee.
N.Y. Giants 20. New York Giants – Marshawn Lynch, running back, California.
Denver 21. Denver Broncos – Jarvis Moss, defensive end, Florida.
Dallas 22. Dallas Cowboys – Brandon Meriweather, safety, Miami (Fla.).
Kansas City 23. Kansas City Chiefs – Joe Staley, offensive tackle, Central Michigan.
New England 24. New England Patriots – Greg Olsen, tight end, Miami (Fla.).
N.Y. Jets 25. New York Jets – Anthony Spencer, defensive end/outside linebacker, Purdue.
Philadelphia 26. Philadelphia Eagles – Dwayne Bowe, wide receiver, LSU.
New Orleans 27. New Orleans Saints – Aaron Ross, cornerback, Texas.
New England 28. New England Patriots – Marcus McCauley, cornerback, Fresno State.
Baltimore 29. Baltimore Ravens – Tony Ugoh, offensive tackle, Arkansas.
San Diego 30. San Diego Chargers – Michael Griffin, safety, Texas.
Chicago 31. Chicago Bears – Paul Posluszny, linebacker, Penn State.
Indianapolis 32. Indianapolis Colts – Lawrence Timmons, outside linebacker, Florida State.


I am working on updating mine - it should be up...eventually.

[Kaleb]

I calculate the pick values as follows from the draft value chart

2007 Rd 3 (#93) = 128 points
2007 Rd 7 (# 221) = 3 points
2008 Rd 3 (# 80 est) = 190 points - 120 points because PV is 2007 4th (#112) = 70 points
TOTAL = 201 points

Our 2007 Rd 2 (# 61) = 292 points by itself!

Therefore we did much better to trade 2007 3rd and 2008 3rd (really a 2007 4th for presetn value purposes)

By the way I calculated the 2008 3rd as a mid round pick #80. If we do well next year and that pick becomes a low 3rd rounder then we will make out even better on the deal.

Good trade.

[StorminNorman]

A few Rumors from Yahoo as well....


Giants interested in Edwards (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Giants-interested-in-Edwards?urn=nfl,26038)

Thursday, Mar 8, 2007 10:31 am EST

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The New York Giants (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nyg/) are interested in former San Diego Chargers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/sdg/) LB Donnie Edwards (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3637/), according to someone familiar with the team's plans.
But the person said it's not likely the Giants will be able to meet Edwards' price tag. Even though Edwards will be 34, he'll get paid in this free-agent market after recording 141 tackles, 2 1/2 sacks and three interceptions last year.
Source: Newark Star-Ledger (http://blog.nj.com/ledgergiants/2007/03/lb_edwards_on_giants_radar.html)http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/nt/ic/ut/bsc/newwin12_1.gif (http://blog.nj.com/ledgergiants/2007/03/lb_edwards_on_giants_radar.html)

Related: New York Giants (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/teams/New+York+Giants/nfl.t.19), San Diego Chargers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/teams/San+Diego+Chargers/nfl.t.24)






Moss to Tampa Bay? (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Moss-to-Tampa-Bay-?urn=nfl,26039)

Thursday, Mar 8, 2007 10:27 am EST

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The latest rumor making the rounds is juicy enough to discuss, even if it's about as far-fetched as they come. Word is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/tam/) are interested in Oakland Raiders (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/oak/) receiver Randy Moss (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4262/), for whom Oakland is thought to be entertaining trade offers.
The Bucs are just the latest team to be linked to Moss. Already, the Green Bay Packers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/gnb/) and New England Patriots (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nwe/) are said to be interested in trading for him.

Source: St. Petersburg Times (http://blogs.tampabay.com/bucs/2007/03/bucs_curious_ab.html)http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/nt/ic/ut/bsc/newwin12_1.gif (http://blogs.tampabay.com/bucs/2007/03/bucs_curious_ab.html)

Related: Randy Moss (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/players/Randy+Moss/nfl.p.4262), Green Bay Packers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/teams/Green+Bay+Packers/nfl.t.9), New England Patriots (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/teams/New+England+Patriots/nfl.t.17), Oakland Raiders (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/teams/Oakland+Raiders/nfl.t.13), Tampa Bay Buccaneers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/teams/Tampa+Bay+Buccaneers/nfl.t.27)



Dolphins discuss deal for QB Green (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Dolphins-discuss-deal-for-QB-Green?urn=nfl,25953)

Wednesday, Mar 7, 2007 2:38 pm EST

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Trent Green (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/2547/) was asked to take a pay cut or seek a trade by the Kansas City Chiefs (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/kan/), and several teams have expressed interest in acquiring the veteran quarterback.
It is believed the Chiefs will accept a late-round draft pick in exchange for the nine-year NFL vet.
The Miami Dolphins (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/mia/), unsure of Daunte Culpepper (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4659/)'s future, have expressed interest.
Source: Miami Herald (http://www.miamiherald.com/588/story/33817.html)http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/nt/ic/ut/bsc/newwin12_1.gif (http://www.miamiherald.com/588/story/33817.html)
Related: Kansas City Chiefs (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/teams/Kansas+City+Chiefs/nfl.t.12), Miami Dolphins (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/teams/Miami+Dolphins/nfl.t.15)

[StorminNorman]

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/STL/10048049

Rams Sign Some Players


Rams sign TE McMichael, safety Johnson http://m1.2mdn.net/viewad/817-grey.gif (http://ad.doubleclick.net/click;h=v8/350f/0/0/%2a/x;44306;0-0;0;10732674;238-150/30;0/0/0;u=RSizigq0HmcAABFBePQ;%7Esscs=%3f)http://ad.doubleclick.net/ad/sponsorships.nfl.com/fs/stories;arena=nfl;feat=stories;type=psa;team=STL;u ser=Anonymous;cust=no;vip=no;sz=150x30;tile=5;ord= 148481173390830? (http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/sponsorships.nfl.com/fs/stories;arena=nfl;feat=stories;type=psa;team=STL;u ser=Anonymous;cust=no;vip=no;sz=150x30;tile=5;ord= 148481173390830?)
NFL.com wire reports
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For more info on McMichael, Johnson (http://www.stlouisrams.com/article/60811/) ST. LOUIS (March 8, 2007) -- Tight end Randy McMichael (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/302087), who has averaged 65 catches the past three seasons, agreed to a three-year contract with the St. Louis Rams (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/STL).
McMichael, released by Miami for salary-cap purposes, brings experience to a position the Rams filled with rookies last season and provides them with a catching tight end.
Second-round draft pick Joe Klopfenstein (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/414664), the starter in 2006, had 20 catches. A second rookie tight end, third-round pick Dominique Byrd (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/407684), was recently arrested on suspicion of DUI and also faces charges of assault and armed criminal action in a separate case.
The Rams also agreed on a four-year contract with safety Todd Johnson (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396001), who spent the past four seasons with the NFC champion Chicago Bears and was a part-time starter last year.
McMichael, 6-3 and 255 pounds, spent the past five seasons with the Dolphins and last year was second on the team with 62 receptions for 640 yards and three touchdowns. He was fifth in the AFC in receptions for tight ends and sixth in yards. The reception and yardage totals were the second highest of his career.
Rams coach Scott Linehan was offensive coordinator at Miami before coming to St. Louis.
"This has been in the works for a while," Linehan said. "We even considered trading for him. He is an every-down tight end and a proven starter in the league."
McMichael is the Dolphins' career leader for tight ends with 283 receptions, and his string of 80 consecutive starts ranks second behind Ozzie Newsome for the most by a tight end to open a career since 1970.
McMichael was a fourth-round pick of the Dolphins in the 2002 draft out of Georgia.
Johnson, a fourth-round pick in 2003 out of Florida, started six games and played in 12 regular-season games last year and finished with 34 tackles, one forced fumble and 10 special-teams tackles. He also saw action in all three postseason games.
Johnson had a career-high 10 starts in 2004 and made a career-best 16 special-teams tackles in 2005. He has played at both safety positions.

[Cmill216]

Love McMichael to the Rams. Damn good move.

Moss to Tampa Bay rumor? Heard about it yesterday. I'll pass. :rolleyes:

[Fran]

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/STL/10048049

Rams Sign Some Players

and I strangle little children

Awesome Rams news, Norman :up:

[Kaleb]

man Bulger is looking good next season

[Fran]

Maybe we could improve the D a little... that would be nice.

[Ghostrider87]

Well hooters ,what do you have to say about that.

First quit calling me hooters and hooters pimp. I don't eat their anymore.

I truly believe that now that they know about his failure to report the charges he is going to be cut from the Titans.

[Kaleb]

you will always be our hooters pimp.

[Fran]

Yeah, GR, Pacman... HE GONE.

[Ghostrider87]

I just can't wait for the start of the 2007 NFL season. The Titans are going to be a great team. Not to mention Vince Young starting as the starter that is going help them start fast.

[Mee]

That's alot of starting.

[Showtime]

I just can't wait for the start of the 2007 NFL season. The Titans are going to be a great team. Not to mention Vince Young starting as the starter that is going help them start fast.

The Titans are certainly poised to be a playoff team, but what additions have they made so far in the offseason to get better? Have they addressed their needs.

Unfortunately with teams like the Patriots, Colts, and Chargers in the AFC...the Titans have not a hill to climb, but a mountain. Mount Everest.

[StorminNorman]

Awesome Rams news, Norman :up:

The Rams gets a great TE (though they drafted like 7 of them last year :huh:) and I help stop the Population Bomb that threatens the world :up:

[Showtime]

The Rams gets a great TE (though they drafted like 7 of them last year :huh:) and I help stop the Population Bomb that threatens the world :up:

I never thought anybody could be as TE heavy as the Patriots, but then the Rams showed up.

[Ben Urich]

It appears as though I'm off probation...? :huh:

EDIT: Yes. :up:

[Showtime]

It appears as though I'm off probation...? :huh:

EDIT: Yes. :up:

Welcome Back.

[Ben Urich]

Thx. :up:

I don't understand what the Bills were thinking when they traded McGahee. Are they trying to tank to get Greg Oden? :huh: :o

[Showtime]

I have no clue, my face almost dropped. It's almost as if they are confused and think that finishing behind Miami, NY, and NE, is bizzaro first place.

[Ben Urich]

Who's the next RB on their depth chart? :huh: I can't remember his name, but he put up decent fantasy numbers this year...
Either way, it was a bonehead move. It wasn't even for good draft picks. :huh:

[Showtime]

Well they are looking to sign Chris Brown, but I forget the backup.

[bored]

Thx. :up:

I don't understand what the Bills were thinking when they traded McGahee. Are they trying to tank to get Greg Oden? :huh: :o


Greg Oden? The basketball player?

[Ben Urich]

Greg Oden? The basketball player?

...
It was a JOKE.

[Fran]

That's our bored!

*Laugh track*

[Darren Daring]

Why were you on probation? Please say it was for overeacting to something to do with sports.

[Showtime]

He made fun of my knickers.

[Darren Daring]

Heavens no!

[Ben Urich]

Why were you on probation? Please say it was for overeacting to something to do with sports.

I called GR87 an idiot in bold, size 12 font. :o

[Darren Daring]

Well, making fun of him is kind of a sport.

[Mister J]

* Welcome Back, Ben. :heart:
* What the hell is wrong with Buffalo's front office? :confused:
* Rams make a nice pick up with McMichael. :up:
* I want Trent Green in aqua and orange. :D
* I could make several hilarious comments about the Former Pimp of Hooters, but they would all mysteriously be deleted :o
...or maybe not so mysteriously :ninja: :cmad:

[Ben Urich]

Well, making fun of him is kind of a sport.

:up:

* Welcome Back, Ben. :heart:
Yay
* I want Trent Green in aqua and orange. :D
TRAITOR!!1 :cmad:
* I could make several hilarious comments about the Former Pimp of Hooters, but they would all mysteriously be deleted :o
...or maybe not so mysteriously :cmad:
:csad:

[Mister J]

TRAITOR!!1 :cmad:


I didn't say I wanted him to start (which he'll near insist on ...I don't know how open he'd be to 'competing' for the start), but you can't go wrong with signing that guy (as long as it's not a deal of Buffalo front office stature). :up:

Daunte (and bionic knee) FTW! :cmad: