2007 NFL Thread

[LegendaryCaleb]

Im gay for Tom Brady
You're gay for Tom Brady
EVERYONES GAY FOR TOM BRADY
I Hate Tom Brady...FTL

[Spider-Fan]

The NFL doesn't want druggies wearing their logo...though 85%+ of the players are on roids.

Pot is one of those things I don't think should be illegal.

And I don't even smoke the stuff.

[Kaleb]

Ricky Williams can play football from the 26th november.

[Dark Donnie]

Colts confirm DE Freeney lost for season

The Colts confirmed Wednesday that DE Dwight Freeney has a Lisfranc fracture in his left foot. He was placed on injured reserve, ending his season.

Freeney, who was injured while doing one of his patented spin moves against Chargers left tackle Marcus McNeill in Week 10, will need to have surgery and risks missing a large chunk of next season. Freeney signed a six-year, $72 million contract this past offseason. He's the third defensive starter Indy has lost for the year and clearly the best. Teams won't fear the Colts' pass rush as much. Nov. 14 - 1:15 pm et
Source: Indianapolis Star

:trans:

[LegendaryCaleb]

wow thats crazy news

[Jerry!]

Freeney.. HE GONE!! He'll grab some bench!

[Spider-Fan]

I thought Freeney looked done when he got injured...good thing they got Rice.

[Matt]

Guess Celldog has his new excuse, with Freeney out.

[Advanced Dark]

Who are the Colt's losing to this week? Even if the win I love seeing Manning getting knocked down and getting up and yelling at his players all red in the face.

[LegendaryCaleb]

Colts will win this week...and Peyton will own :o

[Advanced Dark]

Colts will win this week...and Peyton will own :o

They are playing KC so who knows.

[BlackLantern]

I have an issue.....in my FF team...I have the Titans D and the Chiefs D...and my QB's are Cutler and Croyle....I am divided

[Dark Donnie]

Chiefs stink....

[LegendaryCaleb]

I have an issue.....in my FF team...I have the Titans D and the Chiefs D...and my QB's are Cutler and Croyle....I am divided
are you deciding who to start?

[Dark Donnie]

I have an issue.....in my FF team...I have the Titans D and the Chiefs D...and my QB's are Cutler and Croyle....I am divided

no Defenses available?

[BlackLantern]

I have the Titans Defense and the Chiefs Defense and I dont know who to play....partly because Denver is playing Tennessee Monday night the Chiefs Defense is playing Indy....

[LegendaryCaleb]

I have the Titans Defense and the Chiefs Defense and I dont know who to play....partly because Denver is playing Tennessee Monday night the Chiefs Defense is playing Indy....
id play Titans Defense...
and take a chance with Croyle

[Dark Donnie]

I have the Titans Defense and the Chiefs Defense and I dont know who to play....partly because Denver is playing Tennessee Monday night the Chiefs Defense is playing Indy....

Im asking no other defenses available? I would never start my QB against my defense....

[Advanced Dark]

Titans Defense is an easy pick against Denver. Denver won't run against Titans on Monday Night.

[Memphis Slim]

tHE cOLTS HAD THE cHARGERS BEAT ON SUNDAY NIGHT. tHE FRIGGIN KICKER SCREWED US!!! SO Im NOT TOO WORRIED.

THE COLT D WILL KEEP US IN THE GAME.

[Matt]

Nonsense. The Colts didn't have them beat and lost because of the kicker. If the offense scored one more point or the defense prevented one more point the Chargers would've lost. It was a team effort. Not simply the kicker's fault.

[LegendaryCaleb]

the thing i dont get is the huge shift in the atmosphere(on this board)
when colts lose 2 in a row...everyone counts them out...its actually pretty funny...how wishy washy:o

[Kaleb]

Freeney's injury is a very serious one, very few players come back fully recovered from it, and when they do they are never the same player as they were before.

[Matt]

the thing i dont get is the huge shift in the atmosphere(on this board)
when colts lose 2 in a row...everyone counts them out...its actually pretty funny...how wishy washy:o

I've always counted them out (but mostly only to annoy Celldog :up:)

[Kaleb]

Ricky Williams: 'I Can't Believe I Got Really Baked And Applied For Reinstatement Into The NFL'


MIAMI—After smoking three pinners, pulling five monster bong hits, and filling out his forms for reinstatement into the NFL Monday, suspended running back Ricky Williams told reporters he had no idea why he had decided to complete the League's complicated readmission paperwork immediately after getting stoned absolutely out of his mind. "Oh man, I probably shouldn't have gotten so fried," croaked the former Heisman Trophy winner, attempting to address reporters while making an effort to exhale as little as possible. "Do you think they knew I was high? I think they could tell. ****, I hope they didn't notice, but I think they noticed when I got resin all over the application and then got it stuck to my forehead. I'm so busted. Again, man." Williams said he might go back inside and ask if he could re-reapply, as he was fairly certain he had repeatedly written the word "Why?" and drawn abstract pot-leaf patterns in the section marked "for office use only."


-onion.com

[cookiva]

tHE cOLTS HAD THE cHARGERS BEAT ON SUNDAY NIGHT. tHE FRIGGIN KICKER SCREWED US!!! SO Im NOT TOO WORRIED.

THE COLT D WILL KEEP US IN THE GAME.

Yeah, Peytons 6 int's didnt do it. It was the best kicker in the game. Shut up, stop making excuses. They played horribly. The entire team.

[cookiva]

the thing i dont get is the huge shift in the atmosphere(on this board)
when colts lose 2 in a row...everyone counts them out...its actually pretty funny...how wishy washy:o

Well, to get to the Super Bowl, they must now go into NE and most likely Pitt and beat both teams. Pretty hard road.

Also, Celldog needs to be put down a notch.....or 8.

[LegendaryCaleb]

Well, to get to the Super Bowl, they must now go into NE and most likely Pitt and beat both teams. Pretty hard road.

Also, Celldog needs to be put down a notch.....or 8.
ya its gonna be really hard...but i have faith(not a colts fan...just somewhat of a manning fan cuz we both share the same last name)

[KALEL114]

That sucks about Freeney. The injury list is growning with Indy, but I still think KC is going to get whipped this weekend.

[Kaleb]

nfl half season report card


The defending Super Bowl champion Colts get out to an embarrassing 7-1 start, made worse by the fact that their quarterback isn't on pace to break the single season touchdown record

The Patriots' relentless scoring barrage has led to questions of whether they're the greatest team ever or just a bunch of cocky *******s

Thanks to a combination of tough play, fortunate turnovers, sudden outbreaks of ball lightning, and grand pianos falling from stadium upper decks, the abysmal Detroit Lions somehow win six games

Ben Roethlisberger is having a career year, due to the quarterback's new offseason training regimen of not almost killing himself

The New Orleans Saints continue to symbolize their home city, which has shown flashes of brilliance in an otherwise tragic and possibly never-ending rebuilding process

The Dolphins are just really, really bad

LaDainian Tomlinson decides to focus his energy on the first two yards beyond the line of scrimmage this season

A 43-year-old man defeats the Arizona Cardinals

In his first start, Derek Anderson surprises everyone with a reminder that there is, in fact, a football team in Cleveland

The first-ever regular season overseas game between the Giants and Dolphins in London works out much better than the less-advertised Jaguars-Buccaneers game in Swaziland


-onion.com

[Dark Donnie]

Titans Defense is an easy pick against Denver. Denver won't run against Titans on Monday Night.

I'd expect Selvin/Travis Henry to have at least 90 to 100 on the ground...I bet Denver wins

[cookiva]

Ben Roethlisberger is having a career year, due to the quarterback's new offseason training regimen of not almost killing himself

Friggen hilarious!

[Dark Donnie]

Ricky Williams-RB-Dolphins Nov. 14 - 4:33 pm et

A league source tells Profootballtalk.com that the Dolphins presently plan to welcome Ricky Williams back to the team.

Bye bye Sam Gado. Of course, the Dolphins won't have to let a player go to make room for Williams before Week 13, but Gado is likely the odd man out. If the Dolphins do bring Ricky back, he would be eligible for unrestricted free agency in 2008. That's when things could really get interesting.

:heart:

[Excel]

I dont see the big deal with smoking weed

[Showtime]

tHE cOLTS HAD THE cHARGERS BEAT ON SUNDAY NIGHT. tHE FRIGGIN KICKER SCREWED US!!! SO Im NOT TOO WORRIED.

THE COLT D WILL KEEP US IN THE GAME.

As you know I have said numerous times I have been following the Colts since 95, obviously the Patriots are my #1 team, but the Colts are close second. Sure I like to go back and forth with you about the Colts, but I do enjoy watching them play.

That being said, there is no way that #4 was the biggest problem during the Colts-Chargers game. Weren't there two kicks returned for touchdowns, or am I delrious? What about 6 interceptions from Peyton Mannig trying to force the ball in there. There are much bigger problems then #4, although he shares part of the blame for missing 2 kicks.

[Badger]

tHE cOLTS HAD THE cHARGERS BEAT ON SUNDAY NIGHT. tHE FRIGGIN KICKER SCREWED US!!! SO Im NOT TOO WORRIED.

THE COLT D WILL KEEP US IN THE GAME.

You can thank Norv Turner for giving you hope, yes your kicker blew it, any decent coach wouldn't have allowed that to happen.

BTW, I'd be worried we have Brodie Croyle. :o

:csad:

[Advanced Dark]

I wish Norm Chow would give Vince Young some more freedom, and more option plays. I'm sick of them trying to force him into a pocket passer. The guy's a talent and I've seen too many plays where he could have ran for a 1st down without being hit where he threw an incomplete pass. Let Vince be Vince at least some of the time.

[Advanced Dark]

The Colts never had the Chargers beat. The Chargers had the Colts beat the entire game and let it almost slip away. I don't remember the Colts having the lead for even 1 second in that game MS.

[BlackLantern]

I wish Norm Chow would give Vince Young some more freedom, and more option plays. I'm sick of them trying to force him into a pocket passer. The guy's a talent and I've seen too many plays where he could have ran for a 1st down without being hit where he threw an incomplete pass. Let Vince be Vince at least some of the time.


Its the Madden Curse I tell ya.....

[Jerry!]

...or Vince just isn't that good a QB in the first place.

[BlackLantern]

Put Kerry Collins in....

[Advanced Dark]

Collins is a good back up but he's 1-4 as a Titans starter. I liked Volek better. Vince is fine he just came off a injury that hampered him. The Titans defense didn't help things out this past week. That'll be corrected this week even if Haynesworth is out again.

[The_Mystery]

Manning or Brady? Personnel experts make the call

By Mike Sando
ESPN.com
(Archive (http://x.go.com/cgi/x.pl?goto=http://search.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=mike_sando&name=SEARCH_m_archive&srvc=sz))





The Colts have Peyton Manning (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4256). The Patriots have Tom Brady (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5228). And the 30 other teams in the NFL? They'd like to have either one. That's a given.
But which one? Which of those Super Bowl-winning, record-setting quarterbacks would you want on your team? In essence, who's the better quarterback?

Definitely a tough call. Maybe too tough.
"I would go with Peyton due to … hmmm," an NFC scout said, his voice trailing off. "I'm going to take that back. I would take Brady."
OK, so what if you had to choose -- for instance, if you had the first pick in a supplemental draft that featured Brady and Manning?
Even then, the pick is not so clear-cut.
"Wow, if you had the first pick of that draft, you would trade the heck out of it for the second pick," an AFC defensive coordinator said. "Because you can't go wrong with either one of them and you could pick up a little extra."
For years, Manning produced the superior stats while Brady collected Super Bowl championships. While Manning finally won a Super Bowl last season, Brady is the one on the stat binge now, tossing 30 touchdowns with two interceptions through eight games this season.
Each one has led his team to an undefeated record this season, and on Sunday they face each other for the 10th time in their careers, as the 7-0 Colts host the 8-0 Patriots at the RCA Dome. It'll be the first time in 10 years that two Super Bowl MVP quarterbacks have dueled in a regular-season game (the last time was when Steve Young's 49ers beat Troy Aikman (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=615)'s Cowboys, 17-10, in 1997).
Brady's Pats own a 6-3 edge against Manning's Colts, although Indy has won the last three meetings. But finding stats to support a case for picking one or the other might be futile. Manning has a higher career passer rating; Brady has more Super Bowl rings. Manning has the single-season TD passing record; Brady is on pace to break it this year. You get the picture.
"You almost can't compare them strength to strength because they are both good at just about everything," an AFC quarterbacks coach said. "If you had to pick a weakness, you would say neither one of them is a running quarterback. That's it."
To get a sense of how these two compare from a scouting standpoint, ESPN.com asked three experts -- an NFC pro scout, an AFC defensive coordinator and an AFC quarterbacks coach -- to rate Brady and Manning across a range of criteria. None would speak for attribution for fear of giving either quarterback incentive to single out his defense during future games. Their evaluations follow:
Arm strength


Edge: Tie

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Manning had all the physical tools coming out of college. That's why he was a near consensus choice as the No. 1 overall selection out of Tennessee. At 6-foot-5, 230 pounds, Manning also is slightly bigger than the 6-4, 225-pound Brady, and would probably win an arm-wrestling match between the two.
"It's funny looking at [Manning] because the rest of their team is so small," the defensive coordinator said. "It's like watching the Little League World Series and the one kid is 12 and shaving, drinking beer and smoking cigarettes with an 18-year-old girlfriend and throwing gas. That is what Peyton Manning is out there, like a man among kids."
The gap closes, however, when the experts analyze how arm strength translates to throwing a football.
"I think Peyton loses velocity because his balls are not pretty," the scout said. "Brady's spirals are always tight. It's picking on a guy -- Manning's throws are where they should be -- but they are not tight spirals."
Brady underwent shoulder surgery a few years back, but he can make the necessary throws -- and with ample authority.
"Against the Jets [in the season opener], he threw an out to Randy Moss (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4262) across the field with a guy in his face, right on the money, from one hashmark to the wide side of the field," the quarterbacks coach said. "Then he throws a go route to Randy against Buffalo [two weeks later] and it is so perfect."
Mechanics


Edge: Brady

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We leaned hard on the quarterbacks coach for this one. He analyzed both players closely coming out of college. He has studied both as professionals.
"Tom has tremendous mechanics, maybe the finest in the NFL for the last 10 years," the coach said. "I mean, he is different."
Some quarterbacks keep their feet moving. Brady sometimes appears to freeze from the neck down as he surveys the field. He plants both feet and wastes no movement.
"If you are standing there and looking where you should be looking, the quickest way to get rid of the ball is to have your feet set already," the quarterbacks coach said. "Otherwise, you have to reset your feet to throw. That is one of the reasons he gets rid of the ball so well."
Brady was the most fundamentally sound quarterback in the 2000 draft class, according to the coach. But general managers weren't willing to invest a high pick in Brady at least in part because he had shared time with Drew Henson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6528) at Michigan. That's one reason Brady wasn't selected until the sixth round, as the 199th overall pick.
"Tom is just naturally accurate and fundamental like Jim Kelly was fundamental," the coach said. "Some of those guys you can look back on and the reason they were so good was because they were so fundamentally sound."
The defensive coordinator also sided with Brady here.
"As a pure passer, Brady is better," he said. "If you did a competition of superstar quarterbacks, Brady would win on style points."
Accuracy


Edge: Tie

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Not known as a hard thrower, Brady compensates with his accuracy. Meanwhile, Manning commands so much attention with his pre-snap machinations that it's easy to take his accuracy for granted.
Suffice to say, both players can place the ball perfectly.
"Peyton's strength that is the biggest secret of all is his accuracy," the quarterbacks coach said. "He is just phenomenal that way."
Manning has worked with Marvin Harrison (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3514), Reggie Wayne (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5477) and Dallas Clark (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6360) long enough to release the football with absolute trust, reducing the number of passes that appear off target. Brady has quickly developed a similar rapport this season with Moss and Wes Welker (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7027) in particular.
Bottom line: Neither quarterback misses much.
Pre-snap


Edge: Manning

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Manning's ability to control a game separates him from every quarterback in the league -- including Brady -- the experts said.
"You would kill those video games if you could do what he does," the quarterbacks coach said. "[Colts offensive coordinator] Tom Moore does a great job of keeping him corralled and saying, 'Hey, I want these three [plays].' Tom calls the game, Peyton makes the choices."
Brady has become increasingly effective at changing plays at the line of scrimmage. He gets the Patriots into favorable running plays when defenses aren't in position to commit an eighth defender to the box, for example.
The Patriots' offensive package is more diverse in terms of personnel use and play count. But the Colts do more from within each play and formation. Their offense is more complex than it appears.
And nobody scares defenses at the line of scrimmage more than Manning, whose pre-snap gestures may or may not signal on-the-fly adjustments.
"Half the time I think he tries to bluff people," the scout said. "But when you see that, you're like, 'Ah, [shoot], we're in the wrong thing here.'
"He has an effect on people. It's almost like he knows what the defense is doing as soon as they line up. It's got to be his study habits, but I'm not sure Brady is much behind."
Poise


Edge: Brady

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Brady screamed harsh words at his teammates following a false-start penalty last week, but the Patriots were so far ahead that it seemed calculated.
Manning has become demonstrably emotional when the Colts have fallen behind in important games. On Sunday against Carolina, Manning seemed flustered after struggling in the first half.
"You just don't see Brady get riled," the scout said. "Peyton seems like he'll almost lose his composure at times. I'll say Brady almost lets the game come to him, whereas Peyton tries to dictate more things."
The scout described Brady as more willing to settle for a 12-play, 60-yard drive than Manning, who tries to push the ball down the field.
"If you couldn't move the ball real well against a team, Peyton would get more frustrated whereas Tom would be, 'You know, we'll get them,'" the scout said.

Durability


Edge: Manning

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Among active quarterbacks, Brett Favre (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=1025), of course, has made the most consecutive starts in the regular season with a record 243. Second on that list? Manning with 151. Third on that list? Brady at 102.
Manning, in fact, has missed only one snap to injury in 151 regular-season games, and has played every snap in a season multiple times. Brady, who has taken more sacks in fewer games, occasionally has had to play through shoulder and elbow injuries.
Since Manning has done it longer, he gets the edge.

Pocket presence


Edge: Brady

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This season, Brady has taken eight sacks in eight games, compared to five in seven games for Manning. Manning has always been the toughest quarterback to sack, but he's taking more shots this season, usually after he releases the ball.
"Manning is seeing so much Cover 2 and he doesn't have as many answers, so he is holding it longer," the defensive coordinator said. "Therefore you get a chance to get hit a little more."
Brady possesses a "spider sense" in the pocket that allows him to avoid trouble as well as anyone, the defensive coordinator said. The scout gave Brady a slight edge in this category.
"He is absolutely beautiful in the pocket," the scout said. "That guy feels it from everywhere, whereas Peyton is more of a 'box' guy, like there is a box there and he'll hit all four corners.
"Brady can slide better to the left and right, he's more elusive. With his footwork, he never seems to be out of position to the point where he can't make a throw. If he needs to get rid of the ball right now, he can. But that is very close."
Overall

None of our panelists endorsed one quarterback over the other without some degree of waffling. They liked certain things about Brady and other things about Manning, but generally they expressed admiration and respect for both.
A general manager we consulted might have said it best: "The only thing I'm quite sure of is this -- Indianapolis would still pick Peyton Manning and New England would still pick Tom Brady."

[Fran]

Who gives a s***? We've been over this many times. :huh:

[Matt]

I read that whole article anxious to see who they picked. The end is such a rip off :csad:

[Cmill216]

I counted 3 Bradys to 2 Mannings.

[Matt]

Likewise. And Manning got one of those on a technicality (Being older than Brady and thus in the NFL longer).

[The_Mystery]

Who gives a s***? We've been over this many times. :huh:

I give a s#!*, if I feel like posting something, I'll do it. It's called "freewill," look it up.:woot:

[Excel]

I dont care about the colts; the pats thus far have captured the imagination of the country like NOONE before

[Fran]

They haven't captured my imagination, and that's a dumb comment Excel.

[The_Mystery]

^It's his opinion, geez, chill out.

[BlackLantern]

I think its awesome that John Beck is getting the start with the Dolphins.....

[Fran]

^It's his opinion, geez, chill out.

I'm not gonna have this great thread be reduced to talk of "Pats going undefeated?" 24/7.

There are 31 other NFL teams out there, last time I checked.

[BlackLantern]

I agree with Fran.....Ricky gets reinstated, the Miami practice squad QB is getting his first start....lots of other stuff going on.....

[Fran]

Exactly.

[FaT_tONle]

Freeny out for the season I just read... Colts are playing with fire with all these injuries... Steelers should be able to get the bye.

[Fran]

Man, it sucks about Freeney. I have the Colts D on my non-SHH league :cmad:

[BlackLantern]

I see the Steelers sneaking up on the AFC....im sure they are happy to have the attention focused elsewhere

[Fran]

Looks like right now, could be a Steelers/Pats AFC title showdown.

[BlackLantern]

the Giants need to bounce back, but Detroit is playing above and beyond right now....

[Excel]

Forghet any chance of an upset; the bills offense I mean marshawn Lynch is out for sunday. Damn; that rookie and his 3.8 yards a carry are the only remotely good thing goinbg for em right now.

They haven't captured my imagination, and that's a dumb comment Excel.

Their the talk of the country football wise; all of their games get bigger ratings than everybody else; and Tom Brady; whose life cant get much better; is playing out of this world, while randy moss has coming back better than ever.

Now....wtf happened to the colts? theyre ALL hurt? whose next; manning?

[Fran]

the Giants need to bounce back, but Detroit is playing above and beyond right now....

Well, they play the G-Men at home. You should be scared.

Now if the Lions were at the Meadowlands... I wouldn't be too scared.

[SurfDUI]

the Giants need to bounce back, but Detroit is playing above and beyond right now....

This has trap all over it. Lions got there asses handed to them last week and are now supposed to get beat by the Football Giants-

I ain't sure, I'd hope the N.Y. Defense holds up better against the Lions than T.O. and them, but it could be tight.


Oh..YALL JUS GONE SAY THE CHAMPS ARE DONE HUH-:whatever:
Injuries or not we can still run the table. D.C. comes back this week.
We'll be fine...anybody want a used kicker tho.

[Fran]

We never said they're done, just depleted. :huh:

Oh God--- ONE missed kick and you're wishing Vinatieri was gone? :down

[Cmill216]

.......The Colts are done.

*runs*

[SurfDUI]

We never said they're done, just depleted. :huh:

Oh God--- ONE missed kick and you're wishing Vinatieri was gone? :down


My disdain for #4 started the week he got here, with the stink of foxboro all over him. This goes beyond last week. He's no Morten anderson, or Rob Beronis for that fack.

[SurfDUI]

.......

*runs*

Give me somethin to throw:cmad:

[Matt]

Looks like right now, could be a Steelers/Pats AFC title showdown.

Gotta envy Mike Tomlin. How many coaches, especially as young as him, get their first chance as a head coach with a super bowl calibre team? It is like hitting the lottery.

[BlackLantern]

Well, they play the G-Men at home. You should be scared.

Now if the Lions were at the Meadowlands... I wouldn't be too scared.

Ive always felt the Lions never played to potential...now it seems that they are.....the giants really need the win to shake that second half jinx

[vindrow]

Gotta envy Mike Tomlin. How many coaches, especially as young as him, get their first chance as a head coach with a super bowl calibre team? It is like hitting the lottery.



Yup, i'm just glad that Rooney went with Tomlin and not Wisenhutt or Grimm, but then again the Rooney's have always been good judges when it comes to picking head coaches.

[BlackLantern]

Cowher replaced one of the greats in Chuck Knoll...and Cowher is easily a hall of fame coach.....if Tomlin is successful, and thats how it looks, he could be a great as well

[omid17]

.......The Colts are done.

*runs*agreed

[Matt]

Yup, i'm just glad that Rooney went with Tomlin and not Wisenhutt or Grimm, but then again the Rooney's have always been good judges when it comes to picking head coaches.

Likewise. I never liked the idea of Grimm coaching the Steelers. Whisenhunt I'm not too sure about. He revolutionized their offense. I'll give him that. And he really does seem to be on the road to turning the Cardinals around, which is no small accomplishment.

On the otherhand, I think some fresh blood was a great idea. I love how different Tomlin is from Cowher as well. He is constantly as cool as a cucumber. A nuclear bomb could go off right outside the stadium and he would be calm and collected. I love it.

[BlackLantern]

when I first saw Tomlin I thought he was one of the Steelers players......

[Matt]

Cowher replaced one of the greats in Chuck Knoll...and Cowher is easily a hall of fame coach.....if Tomlin is successful, and thats how it looks, he could be a great as well

I think its a bit early to say that about Tomlin. Like I said, he walked into a Superbowl calibre team. It would've been hard not to win with the team he had. I look forward to seeing how he does a few years down the road when vets like Ward and Farrior are gone.

[Matt]

when I first saw Tomlin I thought he was one of the Steelers players......

When I first saw Tomlin I thought he was Omar Epps' character from House :csad:

[BlackLantern]

I think its a bit early to say that about Tomlin. Like I said, he walked into a Superbowl calibre team. It would've been hard not to win with the team he had. I look forward to seeing how he does a few years down the road when vets like Ward and Farrior are gone.

I agree....hopefully the Giants can Coughlin and get John Fox back into the organization .....

[NewYorkSpider]

This has trap all over it. Lions got there asses handed to them last week and are now supposed to get beat by the Football Giants-

I ain't sure, I'd hope the N.Y. Defense holds up better against the Lions than T.O. and them, but it could be tight.




The Lions got beat my an underrated Arizona Cardinals team. Most of Arizona's losses are by 7 points or less. It will be a close game against the Giants.

[Matt]

I agree....hopefully the Giants can Coughlin and get John Fox back into the organization .....

I'd like to see Fox with a team like the Giants or any team with talent for that matter.

[BlackLantern]

i had read when Fox took the job in Carolina the Giants organization basically left the door open for him to return to the team if he so chose....Fox, I think even Mike Nolan could do a good job with the Giants....Coughlin needs to go though

[SurfDUI]

....Coughlin needs to go though

I ain't so sold on this 'new' Coughlin, he supposed to have more fun and smile more. He's still underachieving for whatever reason.

Sure he plays in one of the toughest div., but still, going back to some of his bonehead plays and lack of using Shockey last year, still lingers to me.

They don't win at least 2 playoff games- 'that's it, your gone'

[BlackLantern]

the issue with Shockey is that once he gets a few good grabs, defenses start to aggressively cover him....I think thats why his catches come sporadically throughout the came.....

[Cmill216]

Did anybody watch former Dolphin Mercury Morris' rant on the Patriots? Friggin' gold. :D

[Showtime]

No?

[NewYorkSpider]

I see they were talking to him, but I was listening to music. I'll have to catch the next sportscenter.

[dr venture]

I lol'ed

[Cmill216]

He said some ish about how "they've got ten more icebergs to go on their titanic journey." God, that was hella funny.

[Showtime]

Looks like right now, could be a Steelers/Pats AFC title showdown.

I doubt it will be much of a showdown.

[BlackLantern]

mercury morris should shut his yapper before someone breaks his hip

[NewYorkSpider]

The Patriots are going crush the Dolphins week 16. I'm gonna laugh too.

[cyborg ninja 14]

Anyone read Tony Dungy's book?

[The Game]

Guys, what specific team do you think is the best to have lost a Superbowl? I ask because my friend's dad swears it was 84 Redskins, due to my age I say 91 Bills.

[rdh007]

Lions FTW!

[Showtime]

2001 Rams?

[Advanced Dark]

Chris Brown is ready with fresh legs to go against the Bronco's on Monday Night. A sure bet to run for 125-150 yards.

[kane9321]

cmon lions..get that 10th win

[FaT_tONle]

the Giants need to bounce back, but Detroit is playing above and beyond right now....

I think the Giants are really playing with fire with this game... they can afford the loss more so than the Lions... who absolutely have to have this game to give them any breathing room at all. But the Giants can't lose two straight to conference opponents and expect to have the confidence going down the stretch. I don't trust Manning one bit with this one... just run try to get an early lead... and then run the ball the rest of the game and rely on that pass rush to contain Kitna and Co.

I think this is a playoff game for both teams... the loser is probably a one and done playoff team AT BEST. Then again, maybe you can slip into January and and catch a break or two in that first wild card game and come out with a victory, but don't bank on it. That's how important this game is.

[Alex The Great]

question: anybodey here play NFL HEAD COACH? i sometimes love the game...and sometimes HATE IT!!!! who here plays it?

[Cmill216]

question: anybodey here play NFL HEAD COACH? i sometimes love the game...and sometimes HATE IT!!!! who here plays it?

That game sucks King Kong-sized kahonas. Why the hell do I have to tell my QB every single week NOT to force the ball? That should go without bloody saying. :cmad:

[BlackLantern]

I think the Giants are really playing with fire with this game... they can afford the loss more so than the Lions... who absolutely have to have this game to give them any breathing room at all. But the Giants can't lose two straight to conference opponents and expect to have the confidence going down the stretch. I don't trust Manning one bit with this one... just run try to get an early lead... and then run the ball the rest of the game and really on that pass rush to contain Kitna and Co.

I think this is a playoff game for both teams... the loser is probably a one and done playoff team at best. Then again, maybe you can slip into January and and catch a break or two in that first wild card game and come out with a victory, but don't bank on it. That's how important this game is.

I couldnt agree more...if the Giants lose, the NY media will tear them apart and all the talk of the second half futility will continue on

[LegendaryCaleb]

question: anybodey here play NFL HEAD COACH? i sometimes love the game...and sometimes HATE IT!!!! who here plays it?
me and my cousin rented it when i went to michigan for 2 weeks a year ago....we got it cuz we were insanely bored...sure didnt fix the problem...it sucked hairy giant gremlins...

[BlackLantern]

That game is an abomination that should be shunned

[The_Mystery]

So what are everyone's pics for this weekend?

[TheRunningMan]

pittsburgh over new york

[kane9321]

49ers over lambs

go 49ers

[Immortalfire]

So what are everyone's pics for this weekend?

This is my pic for the weekend..

http://gizoogle.com/media/foshizzlepowell.jpg

[FaT_tONle]

So what are everyone's pics for this weekend?

Yeah the thread was dead for almost a day... guess everyone was caught up in the Barroid news... might as well throw my picks out there....

Lions 34 Giants 31 (Defense Fails again for G-Men)
San Diego 24 Jags 6 (Statement win to keep them in the conversation)
Bears 24 Seahawks 20 (Grossman gets it done for two straight weeks... a new record)

Wanted to pick the Saints and Cardinals as well but something is fishy about their games this week so I laid off. Besides I only pick the games that matter.

[Kaleb]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v456/kaleb007/05zenoffantasyfootballdnx1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v456/kaleb007/02zenoffantasyfootballisx9.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v456/kaleb007/01zenoffantasyfootballism1.jpg

[cookiva]

Ineptitude, wtf?

[BlackLantern]

QB was lined up under the wrong guy......

[Kaleb]

I remember that game, it was a preseason game.

[cookiva]

Wow...thought it was Bush...

[Kaleb]

no it was Adrian Mcphearson (Spelling? )

[BlackLantern]

just tweaking my FF team....trying not to lose again this week

[cookiva]

no it was Adrian Mcphearson (Spelling? )

Snaps....Earning his pay right there...

[Jerry!]

So what are everyone's pics for this weekend?

http://zembla.cementhorizon.com/archives/orton.jpg

[Kaleb]

just tweaking my FF team....trying not to lose again this week

Im so screwed at RB as both Kevin Jones and Marshawn lynch are expected to be out this weekend :(

[StorminNorman]

http://zembla.cementhorizon.com/archives/orton.jpg

To think that guy is getting more action than I am right now is quite disheartening :csad:

[BlackLantern]

Im so screwed at RB as both Kevin Jones and Marshawn lynch are expected to be out this weekend :(

I'm ok at RB...I have Justin Fargas, who just got named the starter before last weeks game, Thomas Jones...who has been on the bench...Fred Taylor, who gets a few points every week....and when they announced Rickys' reinstatement I grabbed him....and I play in a keeper league...so he might be trade bait pending on if and how he plays this season...

[Dark Donnie]

Im so screwed at RB as both Kevin Jones and Marshawn lynch are expected to be out this weekend :(

Jones will play, Lynch won't...

[Kaleb]

Jones will play, Lynch won't...
News: The Lions are still concerned about soreness in Jones' foot that lingers for a few days after games, the Detroit News reports.

Spin: He'll be fine this Sunday, but the soreness will almost certainly come into play an Thanksgiving Day against the Packers. For his part, Jones said he'll play in the huge NFC North tilt. "I would have to," he said. "You know I got to go. It's (Green Bay) a big game in the division. I am not going to do anything to hurt the team, but if I had to go today I would."


this is all i got on him, I picked up Duckett instead and also tojo

[Kaleb]

I'm ok at RB...I have Justin Fargas, who just got named the starter before last weeks game, Thomas Jones...who has been on the bench...Fred Taylor, who gets a few points every week....and when they announced Rickys' reinstatement I grabbed him....and I play in a keeper league...so he might be trade bait pending on if and how he plays this season...

I did the same with Ricky in a keepers league, also this week I traded Kurt Warner for Tojo as I needed depth in runningback ( behind Lynch, Kevin Jones and Shaun Alexander) .

[Kaleb]

dont forget yahoo trade deadline today

[omid17]

http://zembla.cementhorizon.com/archives/orton.jpgfool looks way too blown

[The Game]

So what are everyone's pics for this weekend?

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/76968156.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193861A1C1D75ABE90B4D53EC451549234A 284831B75F48EF45

[Kaleb]

jeez how white are those gloves :confused:

[BlackLantern]

Giants over Detroit

Celeveland over Baltimore

St Louis over San Fran

Oakland over Minnesota

[Kaleb]

Giants over Detroit

Celeveland over Baltimore

St Louis over San Fran

Oakland over Minnesota


Minnesota over Oaktown


St Louis over San Fran


Giants over Detroit


Baltimore over Cleveland

[Fran]

Oakland over Minnesota

St. Louis over San Francisco

Detroit over NY Giants

Cleveland over Baltimore

[Alex The Great]

So what are everyone's pics for this weekend?
not my pic lol........just a funny gif i found

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l143/robsworld77/patiots-logo-destroyed.gif

[Fran]

The majority of this thread agrees with that statement :up:

[Alex The Great]

The majority of this thread agrees with that statement :up:
bwahahahahahahahaha


i'll ignore that :down:cmad:

[Fran]

Then why did you reply to it?

[Alex The Great]

Then why did you reply to it?
well......ah......ahaha........ha....he.....er.... ..... and on another subject......lol

[Excel]

Pics of the week:

Wow; thats quite the Heisman pose, Laurence

http://nflfreaks.com/images/Players/NFLF_Laurence_Maroney_100106.jpg



And this one...notice how Mr. Maroney has cut back so quick that he is going to the complete opposite direction of the defnder; and yes that is mebarassing for #28 Jackson.

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/17/fullj.getty-75557950cc035_new_england_p.jpg

Maroney had 103 on 19 last time against Buffalo....I say this is Maroneys break out week. Despite averaging 4.7 yards a carry; he's gone under the radar with that huge passing game. I expect the Bills to bulk up on the passing game as they'll have to work extra hard on defense without Lynch on offense.

I'll say 21 carries for 138 yards including a long touchdown run, and also 4 catches for 44 yards; with pass coverage good look for Brady tgo to dump it off to Maroney and Faulk.

:up: :up: :up:

[Fran]

...:dry:

[Excel]

...:dry:

2nd time I've predicted stats all year; here is the first time:

i predict santonio holmes to have 137 yards tomorrow

S. Holmes 128 yards 2 td's

94% accuracy rating; I expect this time to be higher ;) ;) :up: :up:

[SurfDUI]

So what are everyone's pics for this weekend?
http://i.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0711/nfl.cheerleaders.week9/images/op4t-4-mid.jpg (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0711/nfl.cheerleaders.week9/content.6.html)

[dr venture]

She's not that attractive

[SurfDUI]

The Champs got a couple of real hawtgirl cheerleaders, but it's hard to get good shots of them.

[Excel]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=belichick

So Bill likes to get wasted at parties and go sing on stage...while also stopping and helping crashed drivers???

thats the bill we all wanna see!

[SurfDUI]

OMG Does ESPN never get tired of Yankee/Choud load?:ninja:

[Bond]

Cowboys.

[Fran]

Rams = NFC West Champions

[Mee]

That's not what she said.

[Fran]

That's what Scott Linehan said.

[SurfDUI]

I always thought Issac Bruce belonged in the AFC

[Mee]

I always thought Issac Bruce belonged in the AFC
:huh: :huh: :huh:



p.s.
:huh:

[Fran]

He's gonna retire a Ram.

P.S. - Mee - :huh:

[Cmill216]

I'd like to get in on the :huh: action.

So......:huh:

[Fran]

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee219/RamsFran/oneeyedconfused-1.gif

[Cmill216]

Fran wins.

Here's your reward: :confused:

[Fran]

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee219/RamsFran/crazy.gif

[Cmill216]

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee219/RamsFran/crazy.gif

That was me watching Peyton Manning throw 6 INTs last week. :up:

[Fran]

This was me - http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee219/RamsFran/dood.gif

[SurfDUI]

That was me watching Peyton Manning throw 6 INTs last week. :up:


http://i.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0711/nfl.painted.faces/images/colts.rosato.jpg (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0711/nfl.painted.faces/content.24.html)

Yea, something like that

[Fran]

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee219/RamsFran/dry-blood.gif

[Advanced Dark]

Go Kansas City!

[Silver Knight]

Go Tampa Bay!

[Excel]

I had the worst dream last night.

I dreamt the Pats lost to Buffalo 40-21 and Brady was 18 of 35with 265 and 2 touchdowns (most to Moss); and maroney had about 180 rushing yards and 110 recieving yards; and I was about to come on n brag about it then buffoloa scored 5 touchdowns in a row-as in touchdowns-cut to themscoring again-again-again-again- and before I know it they lost!!

It was AWEFUL...

[Fran]

Oh darn, a 9-1 record would be just AWFUL!!!!

[BatMatt]

I live and breath through the Buffalo Bills :up:

[FaT_tONle]

Bills are terrible dude.... they wouldn't even win in the Canadian League

[BatMatt]

Bills are terrible dude.... they wouldn't even win in the Canadian League

5-4 and two last seconds field goals from being 7-2, hardly terrible I'd say

[kane9321]

Rams = NFC West Champions

this made me laugh:woot:

[Cmill216]

I had the worst dream last night.

I dreamt the Pats lost to Buffalo 40-21 and Brady was 18 of 35with 265 and 2 touchdowns (most to Moss); and maroney had about 180 rushing yards and 110 recieving yards; and I was about to come on n brag about it then buffoloa scored 5 touchdowns in a row-as in touchdowns-cut to themscoring again-again-again-again- and before I know it they lost!!

It was AWEFUL...

You dream statistics? :dry:

[Darthphere]

I had the worst dream last night.

I dreamt the Pats lost to Buffalo 40-21 and Brady was 18 of 35with 265 and 2 touchdowns (most to Moss); and maroney had about 180 rushing yards and 110 recieving yards; and I was about to come on n brag about it then buffoloa scored 5 touchdowns in a row-as in touchdowns-cut to themscoring again-again-again-again- and before I know it they lost!!

It was AWEFUL...

So wait, if he had two touchdowns, how are they most to Moss? He either has 2, or would have the same as some other receiver.:huh:

[Cmill216]

So wait, if he had two touchdowns, how are they most to Moss? He either has 2, or would have the same as some other receiver.:huh:

I can't even muster the strength to find logic in a post that spells Buffalo as buffoloa. :csad:

[Showtime]

I am a big fan of the buffoloa bellz!

[enterthemadness]

I will be happy if Carolina won tomorrow...but even I know as a fan...:csad: Green Bay is gonna open up a can of whoop ass on us.

UNLESS...

If the O can come to life...then we will win or make it a game before losing.

[TheRunningMan]

big ben will lead his team to another super bowl title!!!!!!

[vindrow]

http://i.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0711/nfl.painted.faces/images/colts.rosato.jpg (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0711/nfl.painted.faces/content.24.html)




There is no reason to post your own pic up here:woot:

[NewYorkSpider]

Bills are terrible dude.... they wouldn't even win in the Canadian League

The Bills aren't terrible. They can easily be a wild card team. Are they a playoff winning team? Not yet. They can win 5 of their next 7 games if they play smart.

[NewYorkSpider]

I will be happy if Carolina won tomorrow...but even I know as a fan...:csad: Green Bay is gonna open up a can of whoop ass on us.

UNLESS...

If the O can come to life...then we will win or make it a game before losing.


Combined QB age for that game tomorrow is 82. :dry:

[Excel]

Fantasy alert...there is word in Foxboro that Wes Welker may be out for tomorrow and Chad Jackson will be taking his place; or atleast Welker will have limited time due some sort of injury (?)

^wtf happened to him?

[enterthemadness]

Combined QB age for that game tomorrow is 82. :dry:

Battle of the old guys, dinosauers, grandpa's, etc, :dry:

[Memphis Slim]

Been outta the country on vacation! I could only get to a PC in spots and was seeing all the Colts comments.... Sure I'd have loved an undefeated season. but I'd like another trophy more. And as the Pats will learn (like the Colts did in 2004) the regular season means nothing. And don't forget the Colts lost badly to J-ville last year and dropped one to the the lowly TEXANS (who are not so lowly this year). And still won the big one.

To lose the way we've done? no disgrace in that. We beat San Diego with a friggin' M.A.S.H. unit and 3rd stringers!!!! No Dallas Clark? No Marvin? No Gonzalez? A new Linebacker (who made two spectacular interceptions...one called back because one of refs, who happened to be Ray Charles blew a frigging whistle! :cmad: ) Craphonso Thorpe??? Who?? :woot: Catchin' balls anywhere near him...in the rain. Manning (even with the picks) staged a come back for the ages!! We man handled them.....and the kicker blew it...period. :cmad: That's why the reporters asked Rivers if he mind winning a game this way! :woot: LOL They know they got beat up and down the field. They got lucky. We didn't. But...that's life......we move on.

So...this is for Matt, Jag, Cmill and others who thought the we'd jumped the Colts train! It ain't over ..............

http://assets.cobaltnitra.com/teams/repository/113/c89e87549100483130003ba77f966/1/ColtsHelmet.jpg

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200702/r125203_407293.jpg

[Memphis Slim]

Um...but it is over....


nice reponse...:whatever: :dry:

[Memphis Slim]

Alright, how about a better one. Every team goes through a patch when they get hurt. Usually happens about this time of the year. Sure, you could place blame on the injuries for the loss, or you could realize that every team is injured. Its called depth. Yeah you had 2 key playmakers out in Harrison and Clark, but you gotta realize that Harrison is starting to slow down. You were really only missing Clark and Ugoh, and to a lesser extent Gonzalez.

Two key players?? TWO?? Can you count?
Harrison
Morris
Gonzalez
Ugoh
Keiho
Brock
Hagler
Now Freeny
That's on both sides of the ball.

Also, the next time you blame Viniteri rather than Peyton for the loss, you should just call up Indy's front office and tell them you want Vanderhack back in.

Sorry dude. You always hit a 29 yarder........no excuses!! And evrytime we play the Pats, he's missed one or two!


Be lucky you have a kicker. Also be lucky that the loss wasnt as bad as it should have been. Your beloved Peyton threw how many INT's??? I really cant remember, as I stopped counting after awhile.

And still staged a come back without the "no-huddle". Dude...I know it pains you to give the Colts some dap. But facts are facts. the season ain't over and they will win tomorrow.

[Memphis Slim]

Extraordinary performances by those backups pressed into action against the Kansas City Chiefs today won't necessarily be required if the Indianapolis Colts (http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071118/SPORTS03/711180395#) are to snap a rare two-game losing streak.
http://www.indystar.com/graphics/clear.gif
http://www.indystar.com/graphics/clear.gif
The blueprint for a team that once again figures to be without a slew of front-line players: Do what you do, and do it well. Period.
"It really doesn't matter who is not in the game (http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071118/SPORTS03/711180395#),'' coach Tony Dungy said. "It's who's in the game and they've got to do their job.''
In retrospect, Dungy isn't certain his players heeded that advice at the start of last Sunday night's 23-21 loss at San Diego. They were careless on offense -- four Peyton Manning (http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071118/SPORTS03/711180395#) interceptions in the game's first 16 minutes. And they were vulnerable on special teams -- Darren Sproles returned a kickoff and punt for touchdowns in the opening quarter. That combination dropped Indy into a 23-0 deficit.
"Maybe we're thinking about who wasn't in there the first 15 minutes of the game,'' Dungy said. "But when we started playing, it really wasn't a factor.
"You didn't notice who wasn't in and we had a chance to win the game at the end.''
The Colts will face more injury problems today.
Defensive end Dwight Freeney is done for the season, felled by a foot injury. Receiver Marvin Harrison (knee) probably will miss his fifth game in the past six. Also on the sideline could be offensive tackle Tony Ugoh (neck), backup cornerbacks Tim Jennings (upper leg) and Dante Hughes (shoulder) and safety Matt Giordano (hamstring).


Oh I forgot these guys.........



By the way....The Chargers only score 7 points on offense. Their special teams did the scoring.

[Memphis Slim]

I meant to type two on offense, my bad. Even with that aside, you still say its Viniteri's fault. Damn man, I wish I was here to see how you reacted when the Colts got him. Dude has won more super bowls than Peyton will even get to, and you are knocking the man. Grow up. He is the most clutch kicker in the history of the NFL, and one of the most clutch sports stars in US history. Peyton, outside of last year, hasnt done quite near the same amount that Adam has.


Hey....I was glad to see him come here. Just like I was glad to have Vandy..........time passes you by. And Vandy was the most "accurate kicker in NFL history. So what? The key is "WAS". Adam is no longer the clutch guy!! Clutch was Sunday night. Clutch was the one he missed against the Pats that could have changed how the Pats played 2 weeks ago.

You do not miss 29 yarders with the game on the line.

And as far as rings is concerned.Trent Dilfer has a ring. :whatever: Why? Because of mostly the other guys on his team. Remember Ray Lewis and company? :yay: Adam is a kicker.......kickers are kickers. Not football players. He can thank Brady and the Pats Defense for at least three of them.

I'll give Adam some real credit for that first one against the Rams.

[Kaleb]

Fantasy alert...there is word in Foxboro that Wes Welker may be out for tomorrow and Chad Jackson will be taking his place; or atleast Welker will have limited time due some sort of injury (?)

^wtf happened to him?

you can relax now



Wes Welker (team decision) is no longer listed on the Patriots Week 11 injury report.

Welker was limited in practice much of the week, but no injury was listed and it likely was just a way to give him some rest. Make sure you have Welker in your lineup as he looks to score a touchdown in his fifth straight game.

Source: Providence Journal

[TheRunningMan]

peyton manning=overrated

[TheRunningMan]

Hey....I was glad to see him come here. Just like I was glad to have Vandy..........time passes you by. And Vandy was the most "accurate kicker in NFL history. So what? The key is "WAS". Adam is no longer the clutch guy!! Clutch was Sunday night. Clutch was the one he missed against the Pats that could have changed how the Pats played 2 weeks ago.

You do not miss 29 yarders with the game on the line.

And as far as rings is concerned.Trent Dilfer has a ring. :whatever: Why? Because of mostly the other guys on his team. Remember Ray Lewis and company? :yay: Adam is a kicker.......kickers are kickers. Not football players. He can thank Brady and the Pats Defense for at least three of them.

I'll give Adam some real credit for that first one against the Rams.
actually I think like 2 of the super bowls he won with the pats came down to a last second field goal. and one was in the snow. peyton manning just can't perform well when he doesnt have the AMAZING team surrounding him. he still had one reciever who started in the pro bowl that was playing. he's just not a team player

[Memphis Slim]

actually I think like 2 of the super bowls he won with the pats came down to a last second field goal. and one was in the snow. peyton manning just can't perform well when he doesnt have the AMAZING team surrounding him. he still had one reciever who started in the pro bowl that was playing. he's just not a team player


um........:dry: they don't play Super Bowls in the snow. :yay:

[BlackLantern]

I need to pick between QB's and Defenses.......I can either play jay cutler or brodie croyle....I can either play the Titans D who plays Denver monday night against my starting QB or play the Chiefs D , who plays the Colts

[Kelly]

Been outta the country on vacation! I could only get to a PC in spots and was seeing all the Colts comments.... Sure I'd have loved an undefeated season. but I'd like another trophy more. And as the Pats will learn (like the Colts did in 2004) the regular season means nothing. And don't forget the Colts lost badly to J-ville last year and dropped one to the the lowly TEXANS (who are not so lowly this year). And still won the big one.

To lose the way we've done? no disgrace in that. We beat San Diego with a friggin' M.A.S.H. unit and 3rd stringers!!!! No Dallas Clark? No Marvin? No Gonzalez? A new Linebacker (who made two spectacular interceptions...one called back because one of refs, who happened to be Ray Charles blew a frigging whistle! :cmad: ) Craphonso Thorpe??? Who?? :woot: Catchin' balls anywhere near him...in the rain. Manning (even with the picks) staged a come back for the ages!! We man handled them.....and the kicker blew it...period. :cmad: That's why the reporters asked Rivers if he mind winning a game this way! :woot: LOL They know they got beat up and down the field. They got lucky. We didn't. But...that's life......we move on.

So...this is for Matt, Jag, Cmill and others who thought the we'd jumped the Colts train! It ain't over ..............

http://assets.cobaltnitra.com/teams/repository/113/c89e87549100483130003ba77f966/1/ColtsHelmet.jpg

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200702/r125203_407293.jpg

Thank you for putting ALL EXCUSES into one post......

[Jerry!]

I don't think you can call it a "comeback for the ages" if they don't actually come back to win the game.

[Excel]

Eh...I'm as big a Colts hater as the next guy...but their team is all hurt. I'm sure theyll turn it on when they get healthy; but itll just get turned when the face the Pats :)

[Matt]

Eh...I'm as big a Colts hater as the next guy...but their team is all hurt. I'm sure theyll turn it on when they get healthy; but itll just get turned when the face the Pats :)

But I agree with Cookvia, its not an excuse. Every team has injuries. Its part of the game.

[Kelly]

Bingo....

[Kaleb]

fantasy alert

Steve Smith is out

[chesslover]

Packers are lucky the refs got blind on the pooch kick return.

[TheRunningMan]

I dont want to be the barrer of bad news but baltimore wont be the afc north champs

[chesslover]

rats :(

[NewYorkSpider]

Green Bay - 7
Carolina - 3

Let's go boys. :csad:http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[Excel]

Vinatieri has missed 2 field goals so far today...

and Wow; Preist Holmes just leveled Antione Bethea on a carry; Thats embarassing :eek: :eek:

[chesslover]

Green Bay - 7
Carolina - 3

Let's go boys. :csad:http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif


Packers are struggling. Refs are blind.

[TheRunningMan]

peyton manning is a dunka

[LegendaryCaleb]

Chester Taylor is having a HUGE game

GO LIONS btw
his knee was not down :o

[Kaleb]

what is wrong with the colts

[chesslover]

Pack leads 21-3

[Immortalfire]

what is wrong with the colts

Bob Sanders must be sick or something

[dr venture]

I just turned on the Eagles game how come McNabb isn't playin

[vindrow]

I just turned on the Eagles game how come McNabb isn't playin


He was injured in the first half.

[dr venture]

Did he get injured after throwing an INT

[Excel]

Bodie Croyle reminds me of Tom Brady; the throwing motion; number; type of balls he is throwing...

Btw ist is safe to say a healthy Houston Texan's team is the REAL deal...

Shaub and Johnson are playing fanastic.

[vindrow]

Did he get injured after throwing an INT


It might have been...I think it was after the 2nd INT....they did x-rays and said no broken bones, but no other news since.

[dr venture]

Figures, he always gets hurt after he ****s up

[TheRunningMan]

jarod allen has just earned my vote to the pro bowl

[Jerry!]

Colts escape against the Chiefs 13-10.

[Excel]

The CBS commentaters are probably giving Brady Croyle head right now ;) :up:

[Kelly]

Bodie Croyle reminds me of Tom Brady; the throwing motion; number; type of balls he is throwing...

Btw ist is safe to say a healthy Houston Texan's team is the REAL deal...

Shaub and Johnson are playing fanastic.

I think so, but even though I live in Houston, I find it very hard to be a fan............being a Cowboys fan my entire life, just doesn't seem right....lol

[chesslover]

Packers win 31-17

[Kelly]

Damn, the Cowboy's center needs to learn freakin sign language......whata dope.


LMAO, and the fans are not happy........damn I love Cowboy fans....they are soooo *****y....

[Matt]

Ok, so if I use Celldog mentality...and this is going to be hard so bare with me...

THE COLTS beat themselves last week becuase they hung with San Diego all game despite mistakes and San Diego got lucky. So this week did Kansas City beat THE COLTS and THE COLTS got lucky?

http://www.fantasyfootballfiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/02/Peyton%20Manning%20pic.jpg

God damn...I type one paragraph using Celldog's logic and I think my IQ just dropped by 20 points. Celldog must have like negative 49 as an IQ.

[Kelly]

Well freak.........Washington just scored....................well that sucks.

[Cmill216]

Bucs 31
Falcons 7

Say it with me, kids: Beat......that......ass.

Good teams are suppose to beat down lesser opponents, and it was good to see Tampa do that today. Bobby Petrino looks like a fool putting in Byron Leftwich when Harrington had just won him two in a row. Dumb, dumb move. The Bucs defense was suffocating, and the offense made just enough plays to bury the Falcons.

And with the win, and losses by both New Orleans and Carolina, Tampa takes a two game lead in the NFC South with six games remaining. Sweetastic. :cool:

[Kelly]

Romo needs to settle his ass down....




EDIT: He did....lol

Damn, that Barber looks like he's gonna lose yards, and ends up making 7....



WELL ****........bench the damn center......WTF was that?????????????GODDAMMIT....

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[dr venture]

This Cleveland B'more game is crazy

[JTStarkiller]

Yeah, that was one crazy kick.

[Mister J]

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:huh::dry:

Yeah, that was one crazy kick.
Dawson totally called double bank shot on that one.

[Kelly]

You don't want me to type what I was actually thinking....:sad:

[Mister J]

Bollocks. We share everything in here. :up:

[Kelly]

Bollocks. We share everything in here. :up:


lmao, I'd have to ban myself......:csad:

[JTStarkiller]

Bottom line, they shouldn't have reviewed that play. It's going to be an interesting aftermath if the Browns end up winning.

[NewYorkSpider]

Panthers lost 31-17 against the Packers. It looked like the team played well. I don't think the game would have made a difference if Steve Smith was playing. Although, Vinny was playing rather than Carr and Vinny always finds Smith. We should be able to win are next two games.

[Mister J]

Bottom line, they shouldn't have reviewed that play. It's going to be an interesting aftermath if the Browns end up winning.
CBS' studio team just said the league deems it reviewable. Besides, common sense has got to prevail there. You have the ability. Get the call right.

[dr venture]

Bottom line, they shouldn't have reviewed that play. It's going to be an interesting aftermath if the Browns end up winning.

They said that it was reviewable

[bored]

I'm upset because KC is on a three-game losing streak. I'm dealing with it because I find consolation in an absolutely phenomenal performance by the defense, Derrick Johnson in particular. Hopefully, Herm will allow the offense to open up a bit more next week. If he'd let Croyle throw more often, we could have won this. As it is, we nearly beat the defending champs on their home turf. *sigh* I can't believe I'm getting used to mediocrity.

[JTStarkiller]

CBS' studio team just said the league deems it reviewable. Besides, common sense has got to prevail there. You have the ability. Get the call right.

Oh, really? I thought they said it wasn't. In that case, that's cool.

[Mister J]

The game broadcast team initially said it wasn't reviewable, to which I gave a big :huh:. I guess they researched it afterwards.

...and Dawson just kicked the game winner. Crazy.

[vindrow]

And Browns win with a FG.

[Cmill216]

Panthers lost 31-17 against the Packers. It looked like the team played well. I don't think the game would have made a difference if Steve Smith was playing. Although, Vinny was playing rather than Carr and Vinny always finds Smith. We should be able to win are next two games.

Those are definitely winnable games against New Orleans and San Fran. But their final four games are brutal:

@ Jacksonville
vs Seattle
vs Dallas
@ Tampa Bay

[Kelly]

OK, the Dallas defense can start the game now.......geeeeeeeeeeeezus.

[NewYorkSpider]

Those are definitely winnable games against New Orleans and San Fran. But their final four games are brutal:

@ Jacksonville
vs Seattle
vs Dallas
@ Tampa Bay

Those games are going to be very hard to win. Jacksonville has Garrard back and has a good run stopping D, Seattle's passing game is coming alive, Dallas is probably the best team in the NFC(will find out in a couple of weeks against GB) and Tampa Bay's D is playing very good.

[Kelly]

WTF is wrong with Dallas' center......pull the guy out and take him to the damn lockerroom for xrays.......geeeeeeeeeeeezus.......this is ridiculous.

[dr venture]

WTH is wrong with the Cowboys center

[Cmill216]

WTH is wrong with the Cowboys center

It's that juice, son.

[Kelly]

T..................TO THE O is on a roll.

[Cmill216]

Even as a Bucs fan, I would love to see Dallas in the Super Bowl. Romo and Owens are too much fun to watch.

Plus, would you really want Favre in the big game? Fox would take bootykissery to a whole new level if that happened. :csad: :down

[dr venture]

I just want the Super Bowl back in the NFC

[TheRunningMan]

the afc will remain dominant

[Kelly]

Hello TO................Hello.

[Matt]

Damn penalties are killing the Steelers. They need to play with their heads.

[BlackLantern]

giants got a good win today......lost Kiwanuka though....

[cyborg ninja 14]

Even as a Bucs fan, I would love to see Dallas in the Super Bowl. Romo and Owens are too much fun to watch.

Plus, would you really want Favre in the big game? Fox would take bootykissery to a whole new level if that happened. :csad: :down

It's a good thing that Dallas/Green Bay game will be on NFL network. The idea of Joe Buck having to do a game featuring both Favre and Romo, he might bust a nut during the broadcast:csad:

[BlackLantern]

Romo doesnt deserve the butt kissery that joe buck and tony kornheiser lay upon him......Favre is a little more deserving of it...

[Cmill216]

It's a good thing that Dallas/Green Bay game will be on NFL network. The idea of Joe Buck having to do a game featuring both Favre and Romo, he might bust a nut during the broadcast:csad:

So true. :D :up:

[Kelly]

OMG yes, I'm a fan of both QB's but good lord, enough is enough.