2007 NFL Thread

[ScottyBBadd]

I heard on the Dan Patrick show (or was it The Herd?) that the Redskins are suppose to be very interested in Calvin Johnson and trading up.

Why? Because Dan Snyder is...less than brilliant when it comes to personal moves - there is really no other reason.

Not to mention the Redskins do not have the ammo to move up. It might cost them the rest of their draft and/or some of their draft next year. When it comes to the top pick in the draft you can just throw the "point scale" out the window. It is who gives the most.

[StorminNorman]

The fact that this move seems completely illogical is what makes me think Snyder may try it :o

[Cmill216]

The only team outside the top 5 that has a shot of nabbing Johnson would be the Falcons. The Redskins have absolutely zero to offer.

[NewYorkSpider]

What I'm interested to see is if this Trent Green deal goes down. He goes to Miami, Miami realeses Culpepper and Oakland signs him. Then Oakland drafts CJ #1.

[Cmill216]

Obviously, all the pieces seem there. But the problem I see is: if Culpepper's not healthy enough to start for Miami, how the bloody hell is he suppose to help Oakland? :huh:

[NewYorkSpider]

That would be a risky move to sign Culpepper. His problem last year was coming back to fast from injury.

[Prognosticator]

Is there a draft in here or is it just me? ;)

[Mister J]

What I'm interested to see is if this Trent Green deal goes down. He goes to Miami, Miami realeses Culpepper and Oakland signs him. Then Oakland drafts CJ #1.
I caught a report with John Clayton going over the same deal. Apparently, the Dolphins and Green have worked out some kind of agreement to terms. They just can't work out what compensation goes back to KC. Speculation is that if they can get it worked out by Saturday, Culpepper goes to Oakland and they draft CJ. If not, the Raiders draft Russell and the Dolphins take their chances at #9 (or try moving up a little) to get Brady Quinn.

Obviously, all the pieces seem there. But the problem I see is: if Culpepper's not healthy enough to start for Miami, how the bloody hell is he suppose to help Oakland? :huh:
It's Al Davis. You think he's thought that far ahead? :o

[kane9321]

the raiders CANT...I meant CANT pick calvin johnson...they need a qb..wtf is all this talk about calvin johnson....they need to pick a healthy jamarcus russell wtf.Why would they go after culpepper.It doesnt make sense

[Ben Urich]

Andrew Walter will prove you wrong. :o

[Mister J]

Only because Marques Tuiasosopo and Aaron Brooks are jerks. :o

[kane9321]

I really like marques tuiasosopo ..now i can like him again cause he's not with the raiders

[Fran]

Rams acquire Dante Hall by trading 5th-rounder to Chiefs.

ST. LOUIS -- The St. Louis Rams' long search for a return man ended Wednesday when the team acquired Dante Hall from Kansas City in exchange for a fifth-round pick in this weekend's draft.

"We have filled a need with one of the top players in football at his specialty, returning punts and kicks," Rams coach Scott Linehan said. "Dante will fit nicely on our special teams and can be utilized as a receiver in certain situations."

The trade could have draft-day implications. The Rams had expressed strong interest in Ohio State's Ted Ginn Jr., as much for his return ability as for his resume as a receiver. St. Louis also has several needs on defense.

As part of the trade, the teams swapped positions in the third round -- the Chiefs moving up to 82nd overall, the Rams down to 84th.

"We have to get younger, and the only way you can do that is through the draft," Chiefs coach Herm Edwards said. "You're going to have to give up something to get something."

The trade also gives Kansas City seven draft choices.

"We feel that it's always important to have at least seven draft picks," Chiefs president Carl Peterson said. "Hopefully, we'll be able to acquire another one or two in the days to come."

The Rams have struggled for years on kick returns. Last season, St. Louis averaged 7.8 yards per punt return. Only five teams were worse. The Rams were 26th in kickoff returns, averaging 21.3 yards.

The 28-year-old Hall has returned 11 kickoffs and punts for touchdowns in his seven-year career, including four (two kickoffs, two punts) in 2003. Brian Mitchell holds the record with 14 kick-return touchdowns, followed by Eric Metcalf with 12.

Hall also needs one more kickoff return for a touchdown to break the record of six he shares with Ollie Matson, Gale Sayers, Travis Williams and Mel Gray.

Hall was the NFL's top returner from 2002-04. His production declined the last two season, though he had one punt return for a touchdown last season, on Oct. 1 against San Francisco.

In 2003, he averaged 25.9 yards per kickoff return and 16.3 yards per punt return.

Last season, Hall averaged 22.8 yards on 53 kickoff returns and 8.9 yards on 27 punt returns. He also caught 26 passes, two for touchdowns.

For his career, all of it with Kansas City, Hall averaged 24 yards per kickoff return and 10 yards per punt return.

I'd still like Ginn. :o

[Ben Urich]

"We feel that it's always important to have at least seven draft picks," Chiefs president Carl Peterson said. "Hopefully, we'll be able to acquire another one or two in the days to come."

How... random....? :huh:

[Cmill216]

Well that certainly removes them from the Ginn discussion. I'd take Hall for a 5th rounder anyday.

[Fran]

Now we can improve the D a little.

[StorminNorman]

I think Ginn becomes a Titan, just to prove us all wrong.

[cyborg ninja 14]

ESPN cracks me up
http://assets.espn.go.com/i/page2/topstory/04252007_pg2_412.jpg

"One of these players will be a bust":huh:

Is this some new game show like Stump the Schaub or something?

[bored]

Rams acquire Dante Hall by trading 5th-rounder to Chiefs.



I'd still like Ginn. :o


Give him back, you whores!:cmad:




:csad:

[Johnny Blaze]

Rams acquire Dante Hall by trading 5th-rounder to Chiefs.



I'd still like Ginn. :o

Figured he'd go for a second day pick. Good pick up for St. Louis. :up:

And on a related note...

Damn you Tampa Bay! Why couldn't you make the move? You'd think never having ran back a kickoff for a TD in your entire history would make you interested in one of the best return men in the game. Especially for a 5th rounder. :o

[Ghostrider87]

So I am probally going to a Titans game this season.

[Ben Urich]

ESPN cracks me up
http://assets.espn.go.com/i/page2/topstory/04252007_pg2_412.jpg

"One of these players will be a bust":huh:

Is this some new game show like Stump the Schaub or something?

Hahahahahahahahaha

[Ghostrider87]

ESPN cracks me up
http://assets.espn.go.com/i/page2/topstory/04252007_pg2_412.jpg

"One of these players will be a bust":huh:

Is this some new game show like Stump the Schaub or something?

It would be hilarious if all four players turned out to be a bust. :woot:

[NewYorkSpider]

Dante Hall to the Rams will certainly improve their special teams that wasn't very good last year. It was a good pickup.:up:

[StorminNorman]

ESPN cracks me up
http://assets.espn.go.com/i/page2/topstory/04252007_pg2_412.jpg

"One of these players will be a bust":huh:

Is this some new game show like Stump the Schaub or something?

I will take 2 and 83 thank you.

[Cmill216]

It would be hilarious if all four players turned out to be a bust. :woot:

It would be hilarious if I punched Hal Jordan in the face. :mad:

[Fran]

It wouldn't. It would be horrible. :huh:

[Johnny Blaze]

It would be hilarious if I punched Hal Jordan in the face. :mad:

That would definitely put a smile on my face. :up:

[Cmill216]

2002 Draft Flashback - David Carr (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZP6pAgFqHU)


"If I thought they were overrated, I'd tell you. I don't see that happening with these two. I think they're both going to be solid, or much better than that at the pro level, and I think that when you look at [David] Carr or [Joey]Harrington, three/four years down the road, you are not going to call any one of these players a bust or a disappointment."

That's our Mel. Such the expert. :rolleyes: :up:

[Byrd Man]

Well, Hindsight is 20/20. Go look up what he said about Ryan Leaf, how'd that turn out?

[StorminNorman]

I was bored, so I did this http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f39/StorminNormanTho/NFLThread.gif

I need to edit this for lack of Ben :(

[Cmill216]

Bwahaha. That's MorphiNormanal!

[StorminNorman]

New NFL Banner

now with Ben Urich :up:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f39/StorminNormanTho/NFLThread2.gif

[NewYorkSpider]

StorminNorman does it again.:up:

[ScottyBBadd]

2002 Draft Flashback - David Carr (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZP6pAgFqHU) That's our Mel. Such the expert. :rolleyes: :up:

I thought both QBs were a joke then. The '02 draft was not a total waste. The Boys got Roy Williams though.

[StorminNorman]

David Carr is not a bust, he was simply put in the worst situation possible for a young QB and ended up not doing too badly either. He will prove to be a good QB.

[ScottyBBadd]

David Carr is not a bust, he was simply put in the worst situation possible for a young QB and ended up not doing too badly either. He will prove to be a good QB.

No playoffs not even a .500 record. Now if he lives up to potiential in Carolina, great. However for now he is a bust.

[StorminNorman]

No playoffs not even a .500 record. Now if he lives up to potiential in Carolina, great. However for now he is a bust.

Its hard to win games on your back, which is what Houston game in, game out year after year asked him to do.

He has shown the ability to be a big time QB - in flashes. It is this potential that we have seen that prevents him from being a labeled "BUST", he is a work in progress.

[ScottyBBadd]

Its hard to win games on your back, which is what Houston game in, game out year after year asked him to do.

He has shown the ability to be a big time QB - in flashes. It is this potential that we have seen that prevents him from being a labeled "BUST", he is a work in progress.

I never liked David Carr. I believed from day one he was overrated. So i9s Joey Harrington. They are both regulated to bieng career back ups. Hey Frank Reich had flashes, but he was a back up. If David Carr winds up another Frank Reich he will salvage something of his career.

[bored]

I have a seashell for a head. Neat!

[cyborg ninja 14]

ESPN claims that the Raiders are "likely" to take Russel at #1. Anyone else willing to bet that Al Davis will change his mind so much that by the time their on the clock, he panicks and attempts to draft Russel, Quinn, and Johnson at the same time?

[Showtime]

Are the Raiders still in the league?

[Cmill216]

Well the valid point has been made that they'd be pretty naive to take Calvin and then wait till the early 2nd round to get a quarterback, banking on the hope that a Trent Edwards or John Beck WILL be there.

[cyborg ninja 14]

Well the valid point has been made that they'd be pretty naive to take Calvin and then wait till the early 2nd round to get a quarterback, banking on the hope that a Trent Edwards or John Beck WILL be there.

Don't forget Drew Stanton. But yeah, it is pretty foolish of the Raiders to be acting in that fashion. But other good news is that my Broncos are looking to trade up in the 1st round:up: Worked out good enough last year to snare Cutler, perhaps they find that same luck this time.

[SurfDUI]

Who cares about DRAFT BUSTS!!!
The stars of the NFL often are undrafted or lower round picks! Everyone likes to watch people FAIL-you know who failed this year...EVERYTEAM that are not YOUR INDIANAPOLIS COLTS!!! SUPERBOWL CHAMPS to the losers...

And please don't beat on the AFC South, they try-they compete in one of the if not the MAIN toughest divisions in all of SPORT. When the COLTS are on top of you, you have to make decisions that will help you beat them FIRST...then the AFC then the NFC before you talk about Lombardi.

and cut D. Carr some slack. What alternative do you have??

[cyborg ninja 14]

I sensed something was missing around here...

[Fran]

Did this thread just get a little more retarded? :huh:

[SurfDUI]

Did this thread just get a little more retarded? :huh:
http://www.crowdpleezers.com/rONNIEsample.jpg

[Cmill216]

The toughest division in sports?

The AFC South isn't even the toughest division with the name South in it. All four NFC South teams have been to the NFC Championship at least once.

[NewYorkSpider]

Division Championships AFC South
2003:Indianapolis Colts
2004:Indianapolis Colts
2005:Indianapolis Colts
2006:Indianapolis Colts

Division Championships NFC South
2003:Carolina Panthers
2004:Atlanta Falcons
2005:Tampa Bay Buccaneers
2006: New Orleans Saints

[StorminNorman]

ESPN claims that the Raiders are "likely" to take Russel at #1. Anyone else willing to bet that Al Davis will change his mind so much that by the time their on the clock, he panicks and attempts to draft Russel, Quinn, and Johnson at the same time?

Russel will be picked by the Raiders, I think Al wants him and thats all that matters.

I am also started to think that the Falcons will get Calvin Johnson - but that could be me just hoping :(

[Mee]

ESPN has been changing who the Raiders are likely to take like once a week. :huh:

[Cmill216]

From Yahoo Sports:

The agent for Calvin Johnson says contract negotiations between his client and the Raiders have been moving slowly.

The general feeling heading to the weekend is that Oakland is focused on LSU quarterback JaMarcus Russell, so this comes as little surprise.

[Byrd Man]

Dammit, Al. If you weren't so senile, you'd take Calvin Johnson #1 and try to trade him to a team for a decent QB with experience instead of two rookies who'll take time getting a system and adjust to the NFL. But I guess that's why he's the owner and I'm a disgruntled fan.

[Mister J]

The Raiders need help at SO many positions, I'd deal the pick for some later picks and/or some proven players. I'm just not getting the whole 'JaMarcus is the savior' deal. He was impressive at times, in the best conference in college football, but I just don't see him as a franchise QB.

[Prognosticator]

Let me just preface this by saying I already loath Michael Vick for what he's brought to the NFL thus far...


http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6743208?MSNHPHMA

Drug probe leads to discovery of ailing dogs

Associated Press
Posted: 14 hours ago
SMITHFIELD, Va. (AP) - Police conducting a drug investigation raided a house owned by Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick and found dozens of dogs, some injured and emaciated.
Police also found items associated with dog fighting.
State Police Sgt. D.S. Carr said Vick's relative, Davon Boddie, 26, lives in the house. Vick owns the property, but doesn't live there and wasn't present when a search warrant was executed in a drug investigation Wednesday night, Carr said.

Boddie was arrested outside a nightclub by Hampton police April 20 on charges of distribution of marijuana and possession with intent to distribute. The search warrant was executed by a multijurisdictional task force in a narcotics probe.

More than 60 dogs were found in three buildings. Some appeared malnourished, scarred and injured, officials said.

Wayne Pacelle, president and CEO of The Humane Society of the United States, said the group has "heard troubling reports for some time that Michael Vick has been involved in organized dog fighting, and we fear that this investigation may validate that very disturbing allegation."

"We urge law enforcement to aggressively investigate this matter, and we further believe that anyone who harbors dogs for the purpose of fighting, deserves to be fully prosecuted for their crimes," Pacelle said in a statement. "Dog fighting is a barbaric activity that causes immense animal suffering and fosters violence in our communities. Our nation should have a zero tolerance policy for any form of staged animal fighting."

The Humane Society said dog fighting is illegal nationwide and a felony in 48 states, including both Virginia and Georgia.

The animal rights group PETA has asked Falcons owner Arthur Blank to suspend Vick pending the investigation and "to kick him off the team if it is found that dogs on Vick's property were neglected or used for fighting."

In a letter to Blank, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals said it was the second time it was writing to the owner about one of his players and allegations of cruelty to animals. On Feb. 23, the organization wrote to him about defensive tackle Jonathan Babineaux's felony charges in Georgia stemming from the fatal beating of a dog.

Falcons spokesman Reggie Roberts said the team still was gathering information on the report and had no immediate comment.

A spokeswoman for Vick's foundation declined comment. Joel Segal, the quarterback's agent, and Larry Woodward, a Virginia attorney who has worked with both Vick and his younger brother, Marcus, didn't immediately return telephone messages seeking comment.

The probe at Vick's property is the latest in a serious of embarrassing incidents for the Atlanta quarterback.

He was named in a sordid lawsuit that accused him of knowingly infecting a woman with a sexually transmitted disease and using the alias "Ron Mexico" while seeking treatment. The case was settled out of court.

Last season, Vick flashed an obscene hand gesture to heckling Atlanta fans as he walked off the field following a dismal loss to New Orleans. He was fined $10,000 by the NFL and donated another $10,000 to charity.

In January, security officers at Miami International Airport seized a water bottle from Vick that they said smelled of marijuana and had a hidden compartment. Authorities later said there were no drugs in the bottle, and Vick explained that he used the secret compartment to carry jewelry.

Just this week, Vick came under more criticism when he failed to show for a lobbying appearance on Capitol Hill in support of increased funding for after-school programs. He missed a connecting flight in Atlanta and didn't turn up for a later flight.

Vick and two other former Virginia Tech stars — Falcons cornerback DeAngelo Hall and former Buffalo Bills defensive end Bruce Smith — are scheduled to join Hokies football coach Frank Beamer and NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in a predraft ceremony in New York on Saturday to honor the victims of the recent shooting at the Blacksburg school.

Other athletes have been linked to dog fighting.

The NBA's Qyntel Woods pleaded guilty in January 2005 to animal abuse and was sentenced to probation and community service, in addition to pledging $10,000 to the Oregon Humane Society. Former NFL player LeShon Johnson has twice run afoul of the law for ties to dogfighting.

I'm so sick of hearing negative stuff related to this guy! :cmad: I can't wait till he's gone from the league!

[kane9321]

yo.. i'm hearing that the chiefs are trying to unload larry johnson..wtf Is this true

To my 49ers if he's available select Alan Branch..please. We sooo need a pass rusher

[Prognosticator]

yo.. i'm hearing that the chiefs are trying to unload larry johnson..wtf Is this true

To my 49ers if he's available select Alan Branch..please. We sooo need a pass rusher

I heard they mearly surfaced his name to ruffle feathers, but it was never serious. I suppose it was to see how high Buffalo would jump. But if the Chiefs were serious they would have alerted Johnson's agent so he could prep a contractionual negotiation deal, which they didn't & he hasn't.

I read it on ESPN's site yesterday.

[Dark Donnie]

yo.. i'm hearing that the chiefs are trying to unload larry johnson..wtf Is this true

To my 49ers if he's available select Alan Branch..please. We sooo need a pass rusher

You guys should go after Jamaal Anderson, Branch is a fat load

[bored]

Of all the dumb things the Chiefs front office has done the last two years (trading Dante, letting Kawika Mitchell and Tony Richardson go, Herman f'ing Edwards), trading who is currently their most significant player would just... ugh, I can't even think about it. I'd have to start rooting for *shudder* the Broncos.

[Prognosticator]

Of all the dumb things the Chiefs front office has done the last two years (trading Dante, letting Kawika Mitchell and Tony Richardson go, Herman f'ing Edwards), trading who is currently their most significant player would just... ugh, I can't even think about it. I'd have to start rooting for *shudder* the Broncos.

Geeze, the Chiefs are pretty stupid! They shouldv'e found a way to keep Richardson! :huh: But Herm Edwards, that was all b/c of Vermeil's pull.

[Venom'sDad]

Russel will be picked by the Raiders, I think Al wants him and thats all that matters.

I am also started to think that the Falcons will get Calvin Johnson - but that could be me just hoping :(

I hope that is true... Al is not fond of drafting Quarterbacks in the first round.... the first three round as a matter of fact. He like getting old cast-offs, seasoned vetrans.

[Venom'sDad]

The Raiders need help at SO many positions, I'd deal the pick for some later picks and/or some proven players. I'm just not getting the whole 'JaMarcus is the savior' deal. He was impressive at times, in the best conference in college football, but I just don't see him as a franchise QB.

I disagree.... The defense & Special Teams are solid. The Offensive line is good(maybe need another seasoned Tackle) and the RBs &WRs are suspect but durable. Raiders needs a "Franchise Quarterback" and a wideout to replace Moss(trade if possible).

[kane9321]

I disagree.... The defense & Special Teams are solid. The Offensive line is good(maybe need another seasoned Tackle) and the RBs &WRs are suspect but durable. Raiders needs a "Franchise Quarterback" and a wideout to replace Moss(trade if possible).


i must disagree here,living in oakland i've seen 1st hand how disgusting this team is(which is great cause i'm a 49er faithful:woot: .This sack of crap team needs help on the offensive line in a bad way. Jamarcus would get killed behind that swiss chesse line.A qb is only as good as his offensive line,He wont have time to throw the ball with his incredible arm if hes runnin for his life.

Next thing you must do...get rid of randy moss and jerry porter..they both want out of oakland..so grant these big goofs their wish...package a deal, do something to get these jokers off the team...so go after a wr as well

[LostSon88]

I could care less who the Raiders end up picking... (another 49er faithful over here :woot:)

But on another note, moving the Superbowl out of the country is without question the STUPIDEST IDEA i've ever heard. The commish had to be high on something when he came up with that... :cmad:

[Cmill216]

Adam Schefter reports that the Detroit Lions WILL take Calvin Johnson with the number two pick unless they receive some sort of blockbuster deal.

According to another report from ESPN's Sal Paolantonio, the Buccaneers are not willing to make an outrageous offer to obtain Johnson and if push to come to shove the team will be content with whomever they get at number 4.

CMill's Take: If a reasonable Johnson deal doesn't go down, I expect the Bucs to nab either Joe Thomas, Gaines Adams, or Amobi Okoye with the number 4 pick (possibly even trading down a few slots if need be).

[jks]

http://www.crowdpleezers.com/rONNIEsample.jpgWhat a retarded looking kid, lol

[Excel]

yeah...if pats wanna do well they need to get chad jackson involved instead of 5-7 yard passing plays.

[Immortalfire]

No, no, NO..a thousand times NO! http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2007-04-26-notebook_N.htm?csp=34

[Mister J]

While I admire Goddell's ambition in trying to take the game global, that's really just ****ing stupid. It's bad enough that he's going to jack the Dolphins and Giants this year by sending them to London, but please, stop the madness with the Super Bowl. I think the largest spectacle of the year should be played just a tad closer to its home base and you know ...the fans that helped to give it its stature. :whatever:

Now if you'll all excuse me, I'm going to go dust off my VHS copy of the Barcelona Dragons v. London Monarchs World Bowl. :dry:

[Prognosticator]

Draft Time in 3, 2, 1...

[Mister J]

No surprises there, Russell at #1. Now it gets interesting.

[Prognosticator]

With the number one pick in the 2007 Draft the Oakland Raiders select Quarterback from LSU, Jamarcus Russell

[Darren Daring]

Are you going to do that for every pick? You're so pathetic.

[Prognosticator]

With the second pick in the 2007 NFL Draft the Detroit Lions select Wide Reciever from Georgia Tech, Calvin Johnson

[Prognosticator]

Are you going to do that for every pick? You're so pathetic.

I'll do it now to spite you! :cmad:

[Mister J]

I really don't know what to make of that pick. Johnson is great, but the Lions need help elsewhere, especially on defense. Gaines Adams, maybe Alan Branch, even Okoye would have seen to be natural. On top of that, Brady Quinn (who's probably more NFL-ready than any other QB out there). I wonder how much of the trade talk between them and Tampa is just lip service.

[Venom'sDad]

:D :cool: YEAH BABY!!! :up: :up: :up:




i must disagree here,living in oakland i've seen 1st hand how disgusting this team is(which is great cause i'm a 49er faithful:woot: .This sack of crap team needs help on the offensive line in a bad way. Jamarcus would get killed behind that swiss chesse line.A qb is only as good as his offensive line,He wont have time to throw the ball with his incredible arm if hes runnin for his life.

Next thing you must do...get rid of randy moss and jerry porter..they both want out of oakland..so grant these big goofs their wish...package a deal, do something to get these jokers off the team...so go after a wr as well
Well we both seem to agree that the Raiders defense & Special teams are solid, that the Raiders need a franchise quarterback, that the RBs & WRs are suspect, and that Randy Moss needs to go(trade if possible); however, I would love to keep Porter. With that said, in the words of Woody Paige, “you are too close to the trees to see the forest” Mr. 49er. The Raiders Offensive line is good and talented… the problem was coaching. The coaching staff put the team consistently in the wrong offensive set, bad blocking schemes, and poor play calling. Add to the fact that the quarterbacks(Brooks & Walters) were a joke, the RBs & WRs are suspect, and the team were constantly in poor field position(allowing teams to press and blitz the middle and occasionally the corners). The Raiders could use another seasoned Tackle and maybe draft a blocking Tight-End, but the offensive line is ok imo. ;)

[Prognosticator]

[Cleveland] :wow: :wow: :wow: [Cleveland]

[Mister J]

Dolphins may have a shot at Quinn. I don't know how sold Minnesota is on Jackson. Of course, that overlooks any draft day poker that goes on with someone making a pick and looking to deal.

[Prognosticator]

With the third pick in the 2007 NFL Draft the Cleveland Browns select place kicker from Douche State, Darring Dan.

[Darren Daring]

Almost like my name! What are the odds?

[Prognosticator]

Dolphins may have a shot at Quinn. I don't know how sold Minnesota is on Jackson. Of course, that overlooks any draft day poker that goes on with someone making a pick and looking to deal.

You may be right my friend! :wow: Cross your fingers!

[Darth Elektra]

Gaines goes to Tampa Bay!

Cards need to take Levi Brown.

[Prognosticator]

Sick, Redskins suck! :down:

[Mister J]

If Minnesota takes Quinn, I'll rent the charter boat and get those bastards in trouble with the league myself! Take AD, dammit. :cmad:

[Prognosticator]

**APPLAUSE!**

Adrian Peterson at #8!!! :up:

[Prognosticator]

Vikings just earned a new part-time fan ;)

[Darth Elektra]

Falcons pick up Jamaal Anderson :up:.

[Mister J]

This is all working out very nicely.:hyper:

[Prognosticator]

J, WTF were they thinking!?!???????!?1!!?!

LMAO!!!

[Mister J]

WHAT THE ****!!!! :cmad:

Seriously, Ginn's a one-dimensional flash. This isn't a good pick regardless of the fact the we've been wildly inconsistent at QB for ...I don't know SINCE MARINO RETIRED! :whatever: :down

[Prognosticator]

Dolphins are stupid Douches for passing on that opportunity!

[Sun_Down]

Brady Quinn's getting butt****ed.

[Byrd Man]

Wow. I've never seen Kipper pissed off. Is he ****ing Brady Quinn or something?

[Poeman]

hahahahaha dolphins suck HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

JETS FTW

[The Dude]

Worst. Pick. Ever.

Ted Ginn is only going to be a special teams player pretty much. The Dolphins just passed a franchise QB for a kick returner

[Mister J]

This is stupid. Even if you pass on Quinn, we needed to address our aging defense. Christ, Branch and Okoye are still on the board. Even a CB like Hall would have been a better move. Drafting a WR, who's not a good route runner and has average hands...:huh:. I get it; He's fast. Get over it. Ginn shouldn't have gone until around 15 or so. Miami needed a better pick there. :down

I can't over how little sense this makes. It's like Mueller is responding to a dare or trying to win a bet.

[Ben Urich]

Florida's sports teams are getting shafted.
Heat and Magic down 0-3.
Devil Rays are Devil Rays.
Dolphins pass on Quinn.

How are the Marlins doing? :huh:

[Mister J]

Dolphins General Manager Randy Mueller said he wanted to increase the team's speed, and there is no receiver prospect faster than Ginn, who runs the 40-yard dash in the 4.3-second range. While with Seattle and New Orleans, Mueller played a major role in bringing speedsters Joey Galloway (1995) and Donte' Stallworth (2002) to those clubs.

The Dolphins lost one wideout this offseason by trading Wes Welker to New England, and they now have three-year starter Marty Booker on the trading block.

With Welker gone, the team needed a returner. Ginn scored eight touchdowns on punts and kickoffs at Ohio State. Even if Ginn needs time to develop as a receiver as some predict, he could contribute immediately on special teams as Chicago's Devin Hester did with his NFL-record seven scores in 2006.
Get the **** out!

[Byrd Man]

Who said that bull****?

[The Dude]

Safe pick by houston. Another D Lineman tells me that their not fully satisfied with Mario Williams

But seriously, Miami will look at this in 5 years and just hang their heads in shame.

If Brady Quinn drops to my Packers say take the shot. We can get a RB and WR in the second round, and supposiedly we talked to the cheifs about Larry Johnson

[The Dude]

Get the **** out!

You and all Dolphin fans have my deepest sympathies.

[ComicChick]

i need quinn to drop to carolina's pick!

[cyborg ninja 14]

This is stupid. Even if you pass on Quinn, we needed to address our aging defense. Christ, Branch and Okoye are still on the board. Even a CB like Hall would have been a better move. Drafting a WR, who's not a good route runner and has average hands...:huh:. I get it; He's fast. Get over it. Ginn shouldn't have gone until around 15 or so. Miami needed a better pick there. :down

I can't over how little sense this makes. It's like Mueller is responding to a dare or trying to win a bet.

The Dolphins have retardation:csad: How can you be satisfied with an injured Culpepper, and a possible trade for Trent Green as your QB for the future?

[Prognosticator]

This is stupid. Even if you pass on Quinn, we needed to address our aging defense. Christ, Branch and Okoye are still on the board. Even a CB like Hall would have been a better move. Drafting a WR, who's not a good route runner and has average hands...:huh:. I get it; He's fast. Get over it. Ginn shouldn't have gone until around 15 or so. Miami needed a better pick there. :down

I can't over how little sense this makes. It's like Mueller is responding to a dare or trying to win a bet.

I still can't get over how STUPID the Dolphins are for passing on that opportunity!!?! And neither can the ESPN analysts??!

ESPECIALLY with his cold weather experience!?! That's why the Dolphins can't win!

[ComicChick]

If Brady Quinn drops to my Packers say take the shot. We can get a RB and WR in the second round, and supposiedly we talked to the cheifs about Larry Johnson

didn't the packers to pick a qb first round last year?

[Mister J]

Who said that bull****?
A writer at oe of the local papers. I'm guessing he's talked to the GM since the pick and is trying to keep Dolphin fans from taking to the streets in rage.

It gets better...
Ginn has allies inside Dolphins headquarters, which he visited last week. Wide receivers coach Terry Robiskie, whose son Brian is a Buckeyes receiver, conducted Ginn's workout with Mueller and coach Cam Cameron in attendance.

Receiver Chris Chambers is a childhood friend who has said he would love to tutor Ginn.

And Cameron first met Ginn as a teenager while still coach at Indiana.

"I've always been impressed with him," Cameron recently said.

Ginn is considered raw as a receiver and there are concerns about a foot injury in January's national championship game.

How the hell is Chambers going to tutor someone? He still needs polish himself in being a fully fleshed out receiver.

You and all Dolphin fans have my deepest sympathies.
I dropped the cup I was holding when they announced Ginn's name. I don't get it. There are needs on this team that a glorified punt returner won't address.

[ComicChick]

yes!

even keyshawn said quinn's a good fit for Carolina!!! man, i wish i didn't have to go to work in a few, i'm gonna miss it!

[ComicChick]

all i gotta do is get past st louis now

[Sun_Down]

Patrick Willis, baby! Great pick, our defense is rounding out nicely.

[Poeman]

willis will be beast

[Prognosticator]

Comic Chick, Pack took Rogers in 05'

[ComicChick]

willis was a good pick for them. they're making some smart moves over there

[cyborg ninja 14]

I wonder if Goodell tells every one of the draft picks secretely "If you screw up, I'm suspending your ass:o"

[The Dude]

didn't the packers to pick a qb first round last year?

2 years a go the Packers took Aaron Rodgers. And so far (and yes I know that he's backing up Brett Farve and thus not a lot of chances to prove himself) has looked horrid in game action. Supposiedly a few weeks ago the talk was Rodgers to Oakland for Moss. But now with Russell that may effect that potential move. If Quinn falls to 16 I'd say think about it, and if you go ahead, make a move for Moss.

Marshawn Lynch is who the Packers are eyeing right now. I got a feeling he's going to buffalo here though.

[Prognosticator]

I wonder if Goodell tells every one of the draft picks secretely "If you screw up, I'm suspending your ass:o"

What are you, against discipline and respectibility or something??

[DarthRekal]

i like marshawn lynch... good pick for the bills... they always havea good running game..they need to get back to that....



You guys have any idea where Dwayne Jarret's going?:huh:

[cyborg ninja 14]

What are you, against discipline and respectibility or something??

:huh: I was simply wondering how the new conduct policy would be introduced to the new players now under that policy. Forgive me for a marginal attempt to make a joke on that behalf.

[The Dude]

Lynch to Buffalo.
Interested to see what the Packers do at 16, Maybe Mechum out of Tennesee. And I still wouldn't rule out Quinn to Green Bay if he falls there

[Darth Elektra]

Jarret's going?:huh:

It will be very interesting... Im guessin somewere in the 20's.

[cyborg ninja 14]

i like marshawn lynch... good pick for the bills... they always havea good running game..they need to get back to that....



You guys have any idea where Dwayne Jarret's going?:huh:

I thought he had good NFL potential watching him play last year at Cal. I'm not sure about Jarret though.

[Darth Elektra]

Lynch to Buffalo.
Interested to see what the Packers do at 16, Maybe Mechum out of Tennesee. And I still wouldn't rule out Quinn to Green Bay if he falls there

Meachum would be a great fit at Green Bay.

[Prognosticator]

:huh: I was simply wondering how the new conduct policy would be introduced to the new players now under that policy. Forgive me for a marginal attempt to make a joke on that behalf.

Sorry I wasn't picking up on the joke :o

[Prognosticator]

I thought he had good NFL potential watching him play last year at Cal. I'm not sure about Jarret though.

Watch Dallas draft Jarret :o :whatever:

[Sun_Down]

Carriker to St. Louis - great for St. Louis, bad for the Niners. Boo.

[Mister J]

It will be very interesting... Im guessin somewere in the 20's.
I'm thinking late 1st/early 2nd. Bowe and Meachem are rated ahead of him and Jarrett didn't pull wonders at his workouts. He didn't poorly, just didn't wow anyone. He only ran in the 4.6 range and everybody knows if you really want to impress a team, you'll run about a 4.3 and return some kicks for TDs.

God, I'm still pissed.

[The Dude]

Jets trade up

[Poeman]

Omg My Jets Made A Trade

[cyborg ninja 14]

Jets trade up

Anyone got a clue as to who they will pick?

[The Dude]

Jets traded their first, second, and fifth for Carolinas first and sixth

[Poeman]

gotta be the best CB on board

REVIS!!!!!!!!

[Darth Elektra]

Anyone got a clue as to who they will pick?

Leon Hall or the CB out of Pitt.

[Darth Elektra]

Jets pick up Darrol Revis, CB out of Pitt.

He's a pretty athletic guy.

[The Dude]

gotta be the best CB on board

REVIS!!!!!!!!

Only pick they really could have made. Needed someone on the opposite side of Dyson

[The Dude]

Packers two away!

[Poeman]

REVISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

OMG PRAISE MANGENIOUS!!. we are soo happy :)

[cyborg ninja 14]

I've got the NFL Draftcast going right now, has Keiper's head exploded yet because his love child Quinn hasn't been picked?

[Poeman]

Packers two away!

Quinn to packers, write it down

[StorminNorman]

I am waiting for Cleveland to back into the 1st round.

Or perhaps Detroit :ninja:

[cyborg ninja 14]

Lawrence Timmons (OLB) Florida St. just went to the Steelers. Packers are up, start the Quinn chatter again.

[Sun_Down]

Quinn to packers, write it down

That's kinda the only place I can see him going in the next few picks.

[The Dude]

Quinn to packers, write it down

I've been saying that. Either Meachum or Quinn to the Pack.

If Ted Thompson wants to show he has some balls he'll take Quinn and then trade Rodgers with a fourth to Oakland for Moss

[The Dude]

My Packers are on the Clock

[Darth Elektra]

Quinn to packers, write it down

I dont think so!

[Poeman]

I've been saying that. Either Meachum or Quinn to the Pack.

If Ted Thompson wants to show he has some balls he'll take Quinn and then trade Rodgers with a fourth to Oakland for Moss

favre will be very happy with that

[Darth Elektra]

If Ted Thompson wants to show he has some balls he'll take Quinn and then trade Rodgers with a fourth to Oakland for Moss

That's a pretty solid plan!

[cyborg ninja 14]

LOL for Mort "Remember, AJ Hawk is Brady Quinn's brother in-law." As if we needed to be reminded of that infamous Quinn-Hawk connection game of two years ago.

[StorminNorman]

Safe pick by houston. Another D Lineman tells me that their not fully satisfied with Mario Williams

But seriously, Miami will look at this in 5 years and just hang their heads in shame.

If Brady Quinn drops to my Packers say take the shot. We can get a RB and WR in the second round, and supposiedly we talked to the cheifs about Larry Johnson

:whatever:

Yes, because a team that drafts a DT/NG clearly is upset with their Defensive End :up:

[Immortalfire]

Shock of my day, Miami not taking Quinn.

Good choice for my Falcons, taking Anderson from Arkansas.

[StorminNorman]

Whats incredible is that it is not out of the realm of possibilities that Quinn could drop all the way down to the second round - the only team that really should be thinking QB in the first is Jacksonville, and I have heard that the Jags are one of the teams that didn't consider him to be a top prospect.

[The Dude]

theres a curve

[Poeman]

this is hilarious

[The Dude]

Who is this guy we just took?

[Darth Elektra]

Good choice for my Falcons, taking Anderson from Arkansas.

Agreed. Anderson is a great guy on and off the field.

I hope we're able to fill our safety need, and possible a WR or OL, in the secont round.

*off topic, Hey the Tigers beat the Bees yesterday in the 11th inning!

[Prognosticator]

all i gotta do is get past st louis now


:woot: ....and the Jets pick is all yours! :woot:

[Sun_Down]

Whats incredible is that it is not out of the realm of possibilities that Quinn could drop all the way down to the second round - the only team that really should be thinking QB in the first is Jacksonville, and I have heard that the Jags are one of the teams that didn't consider him to be a top prospect.

Yeah, the second half of the second round really has no obvious place for him.

[Poeman]

Who is this guy we just took?

you guys took harrell over branch which is odd... but harrell is very good DT, if he wasnt injured hed be a top pick. but its a reach

[Prognosticator]

Whats incredible is that it is not out of the realm of possibilities that Quinn could drop all the way down to the second round - the only team that really should be thinking QB in the first is Jacksonville, and I have heard that the Jags are one of the teams that didn't consider him to be a top prospect.

Dallas won't pass on him. Neither would the Bears. But I think the Jags will get him or Cleveland will trade back into the first round.

[Darth Elektra]

If im the Jags, I take Nelson

[Prognosticator]

Who is this guy we just took?

An INJURED defensive tackle who's highlight reel was against the bottom feeder teams of the SEC two & three years ago :o

[Prognosticator]

Uh-oh, Broncos trade up!?

[cyborg ninja 14]

Denver drafted up! Lets see what they do.

[Mee]

Brady Quinn is dead inside. :(

[cyborg ninja 14]

God bless Denver for taking Jarvis Moss, and more importantly drafting at DE for the pass rush.

[Prognosticator]

Brady Quinn is dead inside. :(

But realistically he shouldn't be! This means he has a chance to go to a good team, instead of a s*^*-eating team like Detroit or Houston (or the Raiders)!??!

He'll still be a millionare by the end of the day. His family's ego is just brused right now.

[Darth Elektra]

Begals get Leon Hall from Michigan.

Good pick up by them!

[Immortalfire]

off topic, Hey the Tigers beat the Bees yesterday in the 11th inning!

Yay :yay:

[Poeman]

Begals get Leon Hall from Michigan.

Good pick up by them!

revis > hall

[cyborg ninja 14]

Begals get Leon Hall from Michigan.

Good pick up by them!

Didn't they lose Tory James or Deltha O'Neal to New England?

[Darth Elektra]

revis > hall

Im guessing your a Jets fan? So you should be extra happy because now the Pats lose another great option at the CB spot.

[Darth Elektra]

Titans take Griffin, He's the secont best safety in the draft.

[Prognosticator]

Unpredicable, but a great pick for the Titans! :up:

[Poeman]

what do the giants do? eli sucks balls

[Cmill216]

*enters slowly*

We take Gaines Adams, the premiere pass rusher and a player of need, and we don't sell the farm for Calvin Johnson?

......I'll live with it. :up:

Though, a note to next year's top receiving prospect out of college: expect the Lions to call your name next April. :cool:

[cyborg ninja 14]

Why do I get the feeling that Matt Millen inadvertantly caused Quinn's freefall? Yes Calvin Johnson is the best player in the draft, but they needed a QB.

http://mars.walagata.com/w/gwbushisstupid/FireMillen.jpg

[Darth Elektra]

what do the giants do? eli sucks balls

Their on the clock...

*enters slowly*

We take Gaines Adams, the premiere pass rusher and a player of need, and we don't sell the farm for Calvin Johnson?

......I'll live with it. :up:


I've watched Gaines for the past 4 years and I've met him mutlipule times, You guys got an amazing player!

[Darth Elektra]

Giants pick up Aaron Ross, CB from Texas.

[Spider-MansTIZ]

Yeah Aaron Ross just got picked on there team.:yay: He is one of my favorite players

[Darth Elektra]

Jags pick up Reggie Nelson.

Very good player :up:

[Prognosticator]

Jags are getting a GREAT safety in Reggie Nelson!! I'm VERY anxious to see where my Cowboys go now?!!? :o

[Spider-MansTIZ]

Yeah I know. :D

[Prognosticator]

Why do I get the feeling that Matt Millen inadvertantly caused Quinn's freefall? Yes Calvin Johnson is the best player in the draft, but they needed a QB.

http://mars.walagata.com/w/gwbushisstupid/FireMillen.jpg

Awesome pic! The Ford family should take notice if they want to quit losing games/money!

Giants pick up Aaron Ross, CB from Texas.

Texas players are ALWAYS fundamentally sound (minus Cedrick Benson). Great pick for the Giants amongst an always competitive division! :(

[Darth Elektra]

Gruden discusses the Gaines pick:
http://www.buccaneers.com/av/flvideo.aspx?id=1615

[Cmill216]

Gruden discusses the Gaines pick:
http://www.buccaneers.com/av/flvideo.aspx?id=1615

Watched that earlier. Gotta say, I'm proud of Jon and Bruce for being smart about this and addressing the need. And with two second rounders and an early third still to go, we're going to be straighty straight.

[Machx72]

I think Quinn's gonna wind up in DET anyway.

This may be the first time something like this has happened to a projected #1 pick :dry:.

[Darth Elektra]

Cowboys trade spots with Browns.

Brady will be gone.

[Darth Elektra]

Browns get Brady!

[Prognosticator]

Great for the Browns, great for Dallas! :up:

Dallas gets their no.2 AND next year's no.1 :woot: :)

[cyborg ninja 14]

Talk about a backwards way of doing things, I thought Browns should've taken Quinn to begin with.

[Cmill216]

That's an absolutely genius move by Cleveland. Only having to give up their second and next year's first? Wow. Nobody could've imagined a team being able to land Quinn AND Thomas.

[Poeman]

This day will remain in Dolphins history as the WORST day in their franchise!

[Prognosticator]

Talk about a backwards way of doing things, I thought Browns should've taken Quinn to begin with.

Yeah, but now by gambling they got the #1 lineman (who wouldn've been gone for sure!), and got the #2 quarterback overall.

Whatever happens the rest of the draft, the Browns look to have made the best decisions this year!

[Darth Elektra]

Chiefs pick up Dwayne Bowe.

:up: good choice.

[Prognosticator]

^they've been in need of a star receiver for YEARS!

[cyborg ninja 14]

This day will remain in Dolphins history as the WORST day in their franchise!

I've figured out who really runs the Dolphins.
http://www.gametrailers.com/moses/usermoviethumbs/um_131833-53135-South_Park___1004___Carto_thumb066.jpg:o

[Darth Elektra]

Pats get Braddon Meriweather, Safety from Miami.

[StorminNorman]

Chiefs pick up Dwayne Bowe.

:up: good choice.

Only if you look at the low quality of their receiving core.

Look at their entire team and they have much more pressing needs, like most of an offensive line.

[Prognosticator]

I've figured out who really runs the Dolphins.
http://www.gametrailers.com/moses/usermoviethumbs/um_131833-53135-South_Park___1004___Carto_thumb066.jpg:o

Yes! :woot:

[Darth Elektra]

Only if you look at the low quality of their receiving core.

Look at their entire team and they have much more pressing needs, like most of an offensive line.

Well yeah, I meant he's a good WR.

[Prognosticator]

Pats get Braddon Meriweather, Safety from Miami.

Thug life again. New England's going to turn their practice facilities into a prison one of these years :o

[Darth Elektra]

Panthers get John Beason, LB from Miami.

*4 safties in the first round!

[Darth Elektra]

Eagles trade with Cowboys...

[Prognosticator]

Dallas trades with Philly ?!?!?! :wow: :wow:

[cyborg ninja 14]

I bet the Dolphins take Troy Smith with their next pick, just watch.

[Prognosticator]

....for a 2nd, 3rd, & 5th?!?!?? I knew Dallas would do some dumb s*^^*& like this!!!??? :cmad:

[Poeman]

i wonder for who

[Poeman]

....for a 2nd, 3rd, & 5th?!?!?? I knew Dallas would do some dumb s*^^*& like this!!!??? :cmad:

hahahahah:wow: :wow: :wow: wtf

[NewYorkSpider]

i wonder for who

It's probably going to be a WR. Dwayne Jarret

Nope. DE Anthony Spencer

[Darth Elektra]

Dallas gets Anthony Spencer, DE of Purdue.

[Prognosticator]

Dammit! Dallas baffles me with their draft selections yet again?! :huh: :cmad:

[Darth Elektra]

Saints pick up Robert Meachem.

Saints will have plenty of playmakers.

[Poeman]

This is why darrelle REVIS is hot and Hall is not

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV3g2Z-0ExA

WOW

[Erundur]

Sick, Redskins suck! :down:

quite surprised really, I expected Adams or Okoye. Its nice to have a fearsome backfield in Landry and Taylor but Taylor still needs to be developed. :dry:

[Darth Elektra]

Pats just traded with the 49ers...

49ers get Joe Staley, OT from Central Michigan.

[Darth Elektra]

Baltimore pick up, Ben Grubbs.

[Darth Elektra]

Chargers get Craig Davis, WR from LSU.

[Prognosticator]

^, ^^, ^^^ Where's that liberal place kicker Dan now?!? :cmad:

[Showtime]

Pats get Braddon Meriweather, Safety from Miami.

Is that good or bad? :huh:

[Poeman]

davis over jarret????

[Poeman]

Is that good or bad? :huh:

bad

he likes to kick people who are defenseless, and also lets not forget shooting people

[Prognosticator]

Is that good or bad? :huh:

both.


I can just see LT's reaction to Meriweather after they lose in the playoffs again :o :(

[Prognosticator]

davis over jarret????

I think its a good move. Jarrett's trouble in waiting. Just watch last year's USC/Michigan game to see why!

[Darth Elektra]

davis over jarret????

Bad move imo, Chargers should have selected Jarret.

Chicago picks up Greg Olsen, TE from Miami.

I've seen alot of Olsen and he's pretty good.

[Mister J]

bad

he likes to kick people who are defenseless, and also lets not forget shooting people
How much stock are you going to place into a guy's actions in some wild ass fight where practically everyone was out of control?
As far as the shooting, he returned fire, with a gun that he had a permit for, after some clown shot his teammate. Maybe you'd prefer it if he had simply asked the shooter to hand over his gun and make a citizen's arrest.

[Showtime]

Shooting people? Yikes.

Dillon was a bad seed too, but shooting people...

[Showtime]

How much stock are you going to place into a guy's actions in some wild ass fight where practically everyone was out of control?
As far as the shooting, he returned fire, with a gun that he had a permit for, after some clown shot his teammate. Maybe you'd prefer it if he had simply asked the shooter to hand over his gun and make a citizen's arrest.


Ohhhh...now I know who he is. As you can see I do not follow college football, only pro...

[Mister J]

I think its a good move. Jarrett's trouble in waiting. Just watch last year's USC/Michigan game to see why!
A little taunting hardly makes the guy poison. The real story of that game was Jarrett showing his incredible talent and making the Michigan DBs look stupid. (including Leon Hall who went #18)

[StorminNorman]

Bad move imo, Chargers should have selected Jarret.

Chicago picks up Greg Olsen, TE from Miami.

I've seen alot of Olsen and he's pretty good.

Jarret is too slow for what the Chargers are looking for - even Keyshaun mentioned how there is a fear about some of the USC WR's being "system" guys. Jarret does not have the big play potential of Davis, nor the PR ability.

Greg Olsen is a good pick - there is about where he should of came off the board. I feel is he is still a bit overhyped by the media, given his worthlessness as a blocker.

[Darth Elektra]

Colts take Anthony Gonzalez.

Great player, Peyton will have another great player to go too.

[Fran]

Congrats to the Dolphins for wasting the #9 pick :up:

[Darth Elektra]

Jarret is too slow for what the Chargers are looking for - even Keyshaun mentioned how there is a fear about some of the USC WR's being "system" guys. Jarret does not have the big play potential of Davis, nor the PR ability.

I know Jarret is slower for a WR, but he makes unbelievable catches, and he has played in alot of "bigtime" games.

Personally, I would have taken Jarret.

[Darth Elektra]

Cards get Alan Branch, from Michigan.

[Prognosticator]

Longest First Round Ever.....SHEESH! :whatever:

[Showtime]

Somebody fill me in, what did the Dolphins end up doing?

[Prognosticator]

How much stock are you going to place into a guy's actions in some wild ass fight where practically everyone was out of control?
As far as the shooting, he returned fire, with a gun that he had a permit for, after some clown shot his teammate. Maybe you'd prefer it if he had simply asked the shooter to hand over his gun and make a citizen's arrest.

Right, let's not hold anyone accountable for their actions? :huh:


[:o:o:o] Dolphins fans [/:o:o:o]

[Fran]

Somebody fill me in, what did the Dolphins end up doing?

Dolphins get Ted Ginn, Jr. :huh:

[Prognosticator]

A little taunting hardly makes the guy poison. The real story of that game was Jarrett showing his incredible talent and making the Michigan DBs look stupid. (including Leon Hall who went #18)

Good Character is the new number one thing Goodell and others are looking for. I'm glad its finally coming back to the forefront of everyone's attention.

And I think in light of the Virginia Tech situation (and I am in NO WAY comparing ANYONE to Cho Seung-Hui!!), character is as big of an issue now as ever, and with the shape of teams like the Bengals last year, we're seeing teams take these actions under more careful consideration.

[Mister J]

Right, let's not hold anyone accountable for their actions? :huh:
I didn't say don't hold him accountable. I asked how much stock should be put into it? The whole thing was an entire cluster**** of a situation where things quickly spiraled out of control. It makes sense to look at the picture in whole before condemning his character. He did wrong. He was justly suspended and hasn't had any problems since.

[:o:o:o] Dolphins fans [/:o:o:o]I still believe the front office lost a bet or something. It doesn't make any ****ing sense.

[Darth Elektra]

Eagles get Kevin Kolb, QB from Houston.

[Showtime]

Dolphins get Ted Ginn, Jr. :huh:

I love it. :woot:

[Cmill216]

So far we've (Tampa Bay) realized that "games are won in the trenches". So what do we do? Bolster our sagging pass rush with the best rusher in the draft (Adams) and add a big, versatile SEC lineman in Sears.

Won't make anyone's highlights or any Talking Head's Best Draft Grades list, but this has been a nice, solid draft to this point.

[Mister J]

Good Character is the new number one thing Goodell and others are looking for. I'm glad its finally coming back to the forefront of everyone's attention.

And I think in light of the Virginia Tech situation (and I am in NO WAY comparing ANYONE to Cho Seung-Hui!!), character is as big of an issue now as ever, and with the shape of teams like the Bengals last year, we're seeing teams take these actions under more careful consideration.
I agree with the emphasis on good character, but looking at a guy while kinda highstepping into the end zone and sarcastically handing the DB the ball after a big catch don't really register with me as red flags for someone being out of control.

[Cmill216]

Eagles get Kevin Kolb, QB from Houston.

The word "reach" comes to mind. :wow:

[Prognosticator]

I didn't say don't hold him accountable. I asked how much stock should be put into it? The whole thing was an entire cluster**** of a situation where things quickly spiraled out of control. It makes sense to look at the picture in whole before condemning his character. He did wrong. He was justly suspended and hasn't had any problems since.


Duely noted :up: I seriously hope these players are taking action to improve the way they handle themselves, for themselves, the league, and its fans!

[Darth Elektra]

So far we've (Tampa Bay) realized that "games are won in the trenches". So what do we do? Bolster our sagging pass rush with the best rusher in the draft (Adams) and add a big, versatile SEC lineman in Sears.

Won't make anyone's highlights or any Talking Head's Best Draft Grades list, but this has been a nice, solid draft to this point.

Well Vick, Brees, and Delhomme, will be scared this fall.

I agree, very solid draft for you guys so far.

[Twitch]

Eagles get Kevin Kolb, QB from Houston.

Andy, you dumb son of a ***** :cmad:

[Prognosticator]

Eagles take QB from Houston..........uh-oooooooooh :wow:

[Mister J]

Andy, you dumb son of a ***** :cmad:
Could be worse. Trust me. :(

[Darth Elektra]

Chargers gets Safety Eric Weddle from Utah.

My Falcons are up!