2007 NFL Thread

[Prognosticator]

Did you see everything the Chargers traded for that pick?!? :huh:

[Twitch]

Could be worse. Trust me. :(

What was your coach smoking?

Quinn would've been hailed as the next Marino. :o

[Darth Elektra]

Maimi gets John Beck, QB from BYU.

[Prognosticator]

Dolphins get QB from Utah....is that good, J? :huh:

[Poeman]

**** falcons got blaylock.. i wanted him so bad to drop to 63

[Mister J]

Oh, NOWWWWWWWW we get a quarterback. :whatever:
I'm about to throw something.

Beck's a good talent. Not a deep ball guy, but decent arm strength. Seemed well coached and picked up a sophisticated offense at BYU from the handful of games of his that I saw. I would have rather taken Quinn in the first and grabbed a WR in the second.

I swear if I was at that draft party, when Cameron announced Ginn and hyped him as a punt returner, I'd have thrown something at him.

[Byrd Man]

That was horrible, when he was talking to that crowd. It was like a small riot, kinda surpirsed there wasn't any pitchforks or torches.

[Showtime]

I don't understand why the Dolphins are doing everything in their power to concede the division in April. It's disappointing. Whose next, Ricky Williams....

[Mister J]

I don't understand why the Dolphins are doing everything in their power to concede the division in April. It's disappointing. Whose next, Ricky Williams....
Have I ever told you how much I can't stand the Patriots? :cmad::o

@ our draft and the prospects of what could have been: :(

[Darth Elektra]

Justin Blalock looks great!

:woot:

[Immortalfire]

Falcons get Chris Houston, another SEC man.

[Mister J]

Justin Blalock looks great!

:woot
That's a big boy. Looks strong and like a hell of a blocker.

[Darth Elektra]

Falcons get Chris Houston, another SEC man.

Man, I remember watching him this fall, he's a very physical CB.

That's a big boy. Looks strong and like a hell of a blocker.

Yeah, I was like who is he? and then they showed some highlights, and It borught a big smile to my face. Vick has a great guy on the line.

Petrino has done an amazing job!

[Darth Elektra]

Colts get tony Ugoh, OT from Arkansas.

[Mister J]

Drew Stanton? I'm sorry. Does Detroit not know that their defense sucks? :confused:

[Poeman]

apparently Ginn + Beck >>> Quinn + jarrett

way to go fins :)

[Fran]

No, Drew, NOOO!! :csad:

[Darth Elektra]

Panthers get Dwayne Jarret!

[Fran]

We've lost Drew Stanton to the dork side. :csad:

[Badger]

We'll Fran, at least the Rams made a good first pick. :up:

However they dealt their 5th round pick and swapped 3rds for Dante Hall, which is good for the Chiefs, not so much for the Rams.

[Darth Elektra]

Vikings get Rice, pretty good. Big question is will he be consistent.

[Mister J]

Panthers get Dwayne Jarret!
I like that pick for them. You don't need to be a speed burner to be a good receiver. I think Jarrett's a talent

[StorminNorman]

Oh, NOWWWWWWWW we get a quarterback. :whatever:
I'm about to throw something.

Beck's a good talent. Not a deep ball guy, but decent arm strength. Seemed well coached and picked up a sophisticated offense at BYU from the handful of games of his that I saw. I would have rather taken Quinn in the first and grabbed a WR in the second.

I swear if I was at that draft party, when Cameron announced Ginn and hyped him as a punt returner, I'd have thrown something at him.

I think the coaches are looking at it like this:

They are going to get Trent Green, and the coaches believe he has at least 2 years left. Those two years spent developing a QB.

If they draft Quinn, then there will be instant pressure to get him on the field - even if the Phins win games. Pressure from the fans, pressure from the owners, etc. So they look at their Big Board and decide that they have other QB's rank near they have Brady - perhaps they are not as polished now, stuff like that, but they believe they have talent there to be NFL QBs. So draft a QB in the second, let Trent Green play two years, develop your QB and not worry about constant pressure that can result in a young QB being put under pressure too early and ruining careers (Joey Harrington).

Now why they chose Ginn is a mystery to me completely.

[Darth Elektra]

I like that pick for them. You don't need to be a speed burner to be a good receiver. I think Jarrett's a talent

Im a big fan of Jarret, He'll be a playmaker at the next level.

Sad thing is, He went to the enemy :csad: .

[Fran]

Martz better not f*** up Drew! He already did that to Jeff! :cmad:

[StorminNorman]

Martz better not f*** up Drew! He already did that to Jeff! :cmad:

Jeff Smoker ****ed up Jeff Smoker.

Martz is every young QB's best friend - ask that guy from Harvard, or Kurt Warner, or Marc Bulger, or Trent Green.

[Mister J]

I think the coaches are looking at it like this:

They are going to get Trent Green, and the coaches believe he has at least 2 years left. Those two years spent developing a QB.

If they draft Quinn, then there will be instant pressure to get him on the field - even if the Phins win games. Pressure from the fans, pressure from the owners, etc. So they look at their Big Board and decide that they have other QB's rank near they have Brady - perhaps they are not as polished now, stuff like that, but they believe they have talent there to be NFL QBs. So draft a QB in the second, let Trent Green play two years, develop your QB and not worry about constant pressure that can result in a young QB being put under pressure too early and ruining careers (Joey Harrington).
It's good to see you try to provide some rationale behind Miami not taking Quinn. You make some good points, but I still want to break ****, especially if this Green thing doesn't come through or if we wind up giving up the farm for him.

Now why they chose Ginn is a mystery to me completely.
That's my biggest beef. There were quality players available that we could have used on defense. Nothing about Ginn ever struck me as a #1 receiver. I actually think Gonzalez was better. Granted I'm not running a NFL team or anything, but I don't see any circumstances where taking this guy at #9 is smart.
Martz better not f*** up Drew! He already did that to Jeff!
Umm, I think Smoker was f***ed up long before St. Louis took him. :o
Go Blue, dammit! :cmad:

[Fran]

Jeff Smoker ****ed up Jeff Smoker.

Martz is every young QB's best friend - ask that guy from Harvard, or Kurt Warner, or Marc Bulger, or Trent Green.

Ryan Fitzpatrick.

[Poeman]

yES YES YES YES YES

David Harris is JET :)

[Badger]

That's my biggest beef. There were quality players available that we could have used on defense. Nothing about Ginn ever struck me as a #1 receiver. I actually think Gonzalez was better. Granted I'm not running a NFL team or anything, but I don't see any circumstances where taking this guy at #9 is smart.

But he'll return punts!! :up: :woot:

[Cmill216]

I like Beck in the second round for Miami, but that doesn't change the fact that Ginn at number 9 was wrong wrong wrong.

[Fran]

Cameron saying, "He will be fantastic as a punt returner" and not mentioning anything as a receiver is scary.

[StorminNorman]

It's good to see you try to provide some rationale behind Miami not taking Quinn. You make some good points, but I still want to break ****, especially if this Green thing doesn't come through or if we wind up giving up the farm for him.

I was in Miami the day Cameron was hired as coach, I had never heard of him before really and I loved what I read about him. I hope he is not as big an idiot as he seemed to be today - I hope he was thinking what I wrote, though I would be lying if I would say I would of passed on Brady in the Phins position.


That's my biggest beef. There were quality players available that we could have used on defense. Nothing about Ginn ever struck me as a #1 receiver. I actually think Gonzalez was better. Granted I'm not running a NFL team or anything, but I don't see any circumstances where taking this guy at #9 is smart.

Umm, I think Smoker was f***ed up long before St. Louis took him. :o
Go Blue, dammit! :cmad:

Ginn was a reach - I saw him as being a bust if he was picked in the mid teens :(

[Immortalfire]

Cameron saying, "He will be fantastic as a punt returner" and not mentioning anything as a receiver is scary.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/30643/owl2.jpg

[Mister J]

I was in Miami the day Cameron was hired as coach, I had never heard of him before really and I loved what I read about him. I hope he is not as big an idiot as he seemed to be today - I hope he was thinking what I wrote, though I would be lying if I would say I would of passed on Brady in the Phins position.
Cameron's an accomplished guy on the offensive side of the ball. I like that we picked him up. Between the interaction, interest and raving about Quinn that had been publicized, I figured this was a no-brainer. Cameron and Terry Shea (QB coach) both talked about him extensively. Hell, Shea called him yesterday. I just don't get it.
Ginn was a reach - I saw him as being a bust if he was picked in the mid teens :(
He's not a quality receiver. He's fast and athletic, but for Odin's sake, we're talking about the #9 flippin' pick here.

[Johnny Blaze]

So far we've (Tampa Bay) realized that "games are won in the trenches". So what do we do? Bolster our sagging pass rush with the best rusher in the draft (Adams) and add a big, versatile SEC lineman in Sears.

Won't make anyone's highlights or any Talking Head's Best Draft Grades list, but this has been a nice, solid draft to this point.

I agree.
I like the Adams pick. He's a bit unpolished, but Kiffin and Coyer can work on that. Should provide an excellent replacement to Rice who is in the final year of his deal.

As for Sears, I think he'll be a solid backup for the Bucs this year, and could possibly be a starter in a season or so. He's versatile as hell, but I don't think he's quick enough to play tackle in the NFL. Could be a monster at guard though with his power, especially in the running game.

All and all I'm happy with the first two picks for the Bucs. Nothing spectacular, but nothing bad either. Both are good, solid picks who should help this team for years to come. Looking forward to #64. :up:

[Cmill216]

As for Sears, I think he'll be a solid backup for the Bucs this year, and could possibly be a starter in a season or so. He's versatile as hell, but I don't think he's quick enough to play tackle in the NFL. Could be a monster at guard though with his power, especially in the running game.

Sears will probably start at left guard, or at least compete with Anthony Davis for that spot. I think they'll go ahead and see what Dan Buenning can do at center, have Luke start at left tackle and let Davin and Jeremy hold it down on the right side.


TRADE:

Raiders trade for Mike Williams and Josh McCown.

[StorminNorman]

Not gonna lie - I love what Detroit is doin

[Cmill216]

Not gonna lie - I love what Detroit is doin

Sure....on offense. They've yet to address the defense.

[Badger]

Cleveland trades away picks for Eric "Pacman Jr." Wright. So much for Cleveland's great first day.

[FaT_tONle]

Wow Raiders got a bargain... moved down 5 spots in the 2nd round and got Mike Williams and Mccown as a backup QB with the extra pick they got when they moved down.... now thats how you maximize

[FaT_tONle]

[quote=cmill216;11581737] [quote]

Just wondering how are you holding up knowing the Bucs missed out on your man Calvin Johnson? Looks like its set now that Williams is out of the picture

[Mister J]

Cleveland trades away picks for Eric "Pacman Jr." Wright. So much for Cleveland great first day.
That made me do a double take. I hadn't heard of the guy before, but a girl testing positive for GHB and the police finding 146 ecstasy pills in a shared apartment? Damn.

[FaT_tONle]

So how do the dolphin fans feel about passing on Quinn???

[Mister J]

Check out my CT
...or wait for ESPN to inevitably replay the Draft Day Party crowd's reaction to Cameron announcing the pick
...or just imagine the general prospect on passing on a high-profile QB whose had coaching from a notable former NFL offensive coordinator, while your QB situation has been erratic at best for damn near a decade after he fell into your lap. All this for a guy who the head coach described as a punt returner, first and foremost, who got picked about 6 picks earlier than most saw him going.

Christ, that was a horrible move.

[Johnny Blaze]

Sears will probably start at left guard, or at least compete with Anthony Davis for that spot. I think they'll go ahead and see what Dan Buenning can do at center, have Luke start at left tackle and let Davin and Jeremy hold it down on the right side.


TRADE:

Raiders trade for Mike Williams and Josh McCown.

Left guard does seem like the place he will play for the Bucs, and I can definitely see him beating out Davis in camp.
As for Buenning moving to center, I can live with that. He's proven to be an intelligent young player and I think could make that transition successfully. Course, that's if he can bounce back from last season and stay healthy.

[Johnny Blaze]

Check out my CT
...or wait for ESPN to inevitably replay the Draft Day Party crowd's reaction to Cameron announcing the pick
...or just imagine the general prospect on passing on a high-profile QB whose had coaching from a notable former NFL offensive coordinator, while your QB situation has been erratic at best for damn near a decade after he fell into your lap. All this for a guy who the head coach described as a punt returner, first and foremost, who got picked about 6 picks earlier than most saw him going.

Christ, that was a horrible move.

Yeah, it was strange and crappy move to pass on Quinn. Especially for Ginn who was a BIG reach at #9. You have the chance to get a franchise QB, but instead you pick up a WR who could be average at the next level.
I guess they were thinking that the Trent Green trade would go through so they would have a starting QB and that they'd get their future QB later in the draft (which they apparently did with Beck).
Still, even with Trent Green, I don't see why you wouldn't get Quinn to be the future of your franchise. :o

In any case, it'll be fun talking smack to my teacher on Monday seeing that she's a huge Fins fan. :D

[Cmill216]

Just wondering how are you holding up knowing the Bucs missed out on your man Calvin Johnson?

Um, I'm perfectly okay. :huh: :cwink:

Sure, I really really would have loved to get Calvin Johnson, but pass rusher was a bigger need and we didn't sell the farm for a wideout. Solid draft so far, and Allen and Gruden have made smart, sensible moves. Though, passing on Ryan Kalil is a bit of a head scratcher, considering center is a position we're looking to tweak.

[ComicChick]

:woot: ....and the Jets pick is all yours! :woot:

i know i just got home from work and found out :(

delhomme better get his butt in gear, or carr will have his spot by the end of the season

[Showtime]

Have I ever told you how much I can't stand the Patriots? :cmad::o

@ our draft and the prospects of what could have been: :(

Not me personally, but I have seen in in the threads I believe.

In regards to the draft, it is what it is.

[Immortalfire]

Raiders take one of my guys, Quentin Moses :up:

[Cmill216]

I'm sorry, but I don't trust a man named Sabby. :o

[Showtime]

The Raiders? Are they still around?

[ComicChick]

i hope my panthers come out good.

i still wish we would've kept the pick and got quinn, then traded delhomme or carr, but that's just wishful thinking to me.

delhomme got on my bad side after last year. he better show me something this year

[Mister J]

Lorenzo Booker? :whatever:

Nary a defensive pick all day. For shame, Miami. :(

[Cmill216]

i hope my panthers come out good.

i still wish we would've kept the pick and got quinn, then traded delhomme or carr, but that's just wishful thinking to me.

delhomme got on my bad side after last year. he better show me something this year

Errr...no.

Panthers made out very well today. Solid linebacker, solid wide receiver, and a damn good center. B+ draft to this point.

[Showtime]

Well Miami's defense was strong last year right?

[Mister J]

Strong, but getting older.

I really expected some front 7 help there. Booker's a 3rd down back, especially if we get Ricky back.

[Cmill216]

I have to say, Tampa. No real "wow" picks, as it stands. But Gaines, Sabby, and Quincy seem like great fits to retool an aging defense. And damn, I just watched Black's highlight reel. One of the fastest linebackers I've ever seen. :wow:

But passing on Kalil, when we needed a surefire youngster at center, was a dumbass move.

I'll give Day One a B.

[Johnny Blaze]

I'm sorry, but I don't trust a man named Sabby. :o

Sabby Game Film (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/specials/draft/2007/video/?c=Player&p=86641)

Sort of reminds me of another safety we once had. Looks like he could become a great fit in the Bucs D. :up:

[ComicChick]

Errr...no.

Panthers made out very well today. Solid linebacker, solid wide receiver, and a damn good center. B+ draft to this point.

i'm glad we came out good

the trading thing was just me talking BS. that's def not going to happen. i'm just still a lil bitter about how some games went down last year

[Showtime]

I really thought Carolina was going places the year they played the Pats in the Super Bowl, but they have yet to match that.

[NewYorkSpider]

i'm glad we came out good

the trading thing was just me talking BS. that's def not going to happen. i'm just still a lil bitter about how some games went down last year

Well last year the offense wasn't in tune. We couldn't convert on 3rd down.

[ComicChick]

I really thought Carolina was going places the year they played the Pats in the Super Bowl, but they have yet to match that.

me too!

they have 2 of the best receivers in the league. i wanna see them go places this year.


on a side note, yesterday at work i was bored and googled my uncle's name and found a pic of him when he played for the Birmingham Americans :up:

[chesslover]

So far the Packers have chosen an oft-injured DT, a lighter Ahman Green,and a receiver who can't get open.

BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ben Urich]

The Dolphins get an f-minus. :down

[The Dude]

So far the Packers have chosen an oft-injured DT, a lighter Ahman Green,and a receiver who can't get open.

BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep.

And if Ted Thompson did what he should do we should have Randy Moss, but NOOOOO, apparently not.

[Johnny Blaze]

W00t!!11
Day 2 has begun! :D

And I'm happy that my Bucs were able to trade down a few spots, aquire a sixth rounder, and get the player I was hoping for, Tanard Jackson out of Syracuse.
Could be moved to safety, but he's also the prototypical Tampa-Two corner and plays good in zone coverage. Only knock on him I've heard is that he likes to play for the hit more than the ball and needs to improve his on-the-field discipline. Thankfully, both of those things are coachable. :up:


And the BIG news of the day: The Patriots get Randy Moss from the Raiders for a 4th round pick. Hell of a deal for New England.
I know the Colts are the defending champs and all, but this pick up has to make the Pats the favorites to win it all this year. Hell, if they had a receiver last season they would've beat Indianapolis. And with Randy Moss, Maroney, Ben Watson, and Stallworth there Brady is going to have some excellent help around him.
Now I just have to hope I'm able to get Tom Brady in my Fantasy League. :o

[TheDeparted]

^um, wrong man, and fourth this year, and their first next year for Moss.... kind of a high price for him, IMO.....

[Mister J]

I just saw the Moss deal. WTF? New England isn't ****ing around this offseason. :eek:

[Badger]

I ****ing loathe the Pats and their ability to always do **** right. :cmad:

That 'Hooded Sweatshirt' wearing hobbit is the devil. :cmad:

:csad: - yes I'm jealous.

[TheDeparted]

that was a bad deal for the Pats... the radiers are laughing right now....

[TheDeparted]

were talking about a reciever, that has a ego bigger then most countries, who hasn't had a stand out year in probably 3 seasons, who has admiited to taking plays off, who has been in the league for ten years, and he ain't getting any younger... lol... he is no where worth a first rounder.... bad deal... a forth round, and first round, and 23 million.....

[Badger]

Remember the malcontent Corey Dillion in Cincy, then the team player in NE. Those bastards have a way of making selfish players see the big picture. I predict a huge year for Moss next year.

BTW, its a fourth round pick only and Moss is restructuring is contract. It's a great deal for the Pats, the bastards. :csad:

[TheDeparted]

yes, but this is Moss..... he's a different story.... plus, he ain't what he used to be... 5 years ago, this would have been the deal of the century... but not now... he's all but washed up....

my bug thing, bing a pats fan, is them giving up next years 1st... that is a big no no.... you can't predict the future.... whos says that Brady doesn't go down, and their season is gone.... then, you have no first rounder.....

there was a reason the raiders wanted to get rid of moss...

[kane9321]

wow..tom brady finally has a major weapon....sweet

[Mister J]

yes, but this is Moss..... he's a different story.... plus, he ain't what he used to be... 5 years ago, this would have been the deal of the century... but not now... he's all but washed up....

my bug thing, bing a pats fan, is them giving up next years 1st... that is a big no no.... you can't predict the future.... whos says that Brady doesn't go down, and their season is gone.... then, you have no first rounder.....

there was a reason the raiders wanted to get rid of moss...
Why do you keep saying they gave up next year's 1st as well? I've been watching ESPN talk about this thing on and off for over 30 minutes, as well as read a couple of articles on it and there's only mention of a 4th round pick.

The Raiders wanted to get rid of Moss because he didn't want to be there and they had no one to keep him in line. You don't want that kind of guy dealing with a rookie (supposedly franchise) QB or having to worry about him as a new coach. The Pats don't have that problem. There are enough locker room leaders and established guys, on and off the field, to provide some structure. Moss has agreed to restructure his deal and they'll toss him out on his ass if he screws up. It's a 4th round pick. Well worth it for a guy that still has some talent left.

[Badger]

They also reported ESPN that he (Moss) went through a tryout for the team, much like someone in the draft would. And, his 40 time was still in the low 4.3's. And that's what the Pats want, a burner with big play potential.

Make no mistake Moss is a dumbass, but he'll have chip on his shoulder and wants a Ring. He's going to be a monster this season and probably next, past that I don't think the Pats give two rusty ****s. Plus, like 'J' said they have leaders and players that will make him work. Much like he had in Minnesota with Chris Carter.

[TheDeparted]

Why do you keep saying they gave up next year's 1st as well? I've been watching ESPN talk about this thing on and off for over 30 minutes, as well as read a couple of articles on it and there's only mention of a 4th round pick.

The Raiders wanted to get rid of Moss because he didn't want to be there and they had no one to keep him in line. You don't want that kind of guy dealing with a rookie (supposedly franchise) QB or having to worry about him as a new coach. The Pats don't have that problem. There are enough locker room leaders and established guys, on and off the field, to provide some structure. Moss has agreed to restructure his deal and they'll toss him out on his ass if he screws up. It's a 4th round pick. Well worth it for a guy that still has some talent left.

I said that because EPSN.com was saying it, but now I can't find it... stupid ESPN... maybe it was for just a 4th rounder..

but, he still gets his 23 mill.... that alot, IMO for a tenth year reciever

[TheDeparted]

Looks like KC wants to unload Larry Johnson.....

[The_Mystery]

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present the 2007 NFL Superbowl Champions...the dynasty...the New England Patriots!!! (cheers & jeers) If everyone can stay relativily healthy, this is gonna be a monster year for the Pats and a scary year for anyone on their schedule. Brady finally has people to throw to and WILL CATCH IT (you hear me Reche Caldwell, you just lost your spot!!)!!

[StorminNorman]

Raiders get Mr. Moses, Panthers get Charlie Johnson (he shouldn't of left early :() and the Falcons got the worst TE in Bulldog history.

Yay!

[Johnny Blaze]

I said that because EPSN.com was saying it, but now I can't find it... stupid ESPN... maybe it was for just a 4th rounder..

but, he still gets his 23 mill.... that alot, IMO for a tenth year reciever
It was just a fourth rounder. I know the Raiders were originally asking for a first day pick, but they finally realized that nobody would go that high for Moss.

As for his contract, I think it's a damn good bet that he'll be restructuring his deal. I know pretty much every article I've read on the trade mentions that Moss and the Pats will be talking to restructure his contract to save the team some money.
Moss is getting up there in age and he wants that ring. It's the whole reason he agreed to go to New England as the they're the front runners right now to be in Arizona at season's end.

I know character is an issue with Moss, but I trust that Bill Belichick will be able to keep him in line and focused. If not, they can use him like Philly did with TO to help take them to the Super Bowl and then ditch him the next season.

In any case, I think it's a good move for the Pats. Not only did they get a serious upgrade in receiving talent in Moss, but they also got him at a steal with a 4th.
I'm not a Pats fan, but kudos to them for making the move to get Randy in New England. :up:

[Badger]

Looks like KC wants to unload Larry Johnson.....

Why, because they drafted Louisville's backup RB? :huh:

RB's are like dollars, you can never have enough.

With that said, it wouldn't be the end of world. But its too late to get value for him, unless you're talking next years draft. The Chiefs are unloading and rebuilding; so by the time they're done and ready for a run, Johnson may be past his prime. So it would make some sense to trade him for some impact picks or a franchise young backside tackle, but both of those are highly unlikely.

[Spider-Fan]

As the draft nears its end, I must say I am happy with the way my Browns seem to be going. Landing Quinn and Thomas on day 1 was well worth what they gave up.

Hopefully, this marks the franchises turn around, and the Browns finally become significant again sooner than later!

Oh, and I fully expect the Pats to take the SB this year....yikes that team had an awesome offseason again.

[LostSon88]

Man...my Niners are building one hell of a team. :woot:

[cyborg ninja 14]

Interesting to see how Moss will fit in (or out) in that Patriot locker room.

[Excel]

the writers I listened to say pats are looking for atleast 2 productive seasons for moss, but they want him in a semi mentoring role for guys like donte stallworth or chad jackson who are supposed to be down the field threats such as Moss. A lot like what they had corey dillon do with maroney, last year.

mY opinion-**** Stallworth. Get the 220 pound speed demon Chad 'Big Play' Jackson as Moss's backup. Jacksons the Patriots big weapon of the future as he is 8 years younger than Moss. He has Moss's speed and T.O.'s body.

pats are going undefeated. theyve added adalias thomas, donte stallworth, and now randy moss.

[Excel]

yes, but this is Moss..... he's a different story.... plus, he ain't what he used to be... 5 years ago, this would have been the deal of the century... but not now... he's all but washed up....

my bug thing, bing a pats fan, is them giving up next years 1st... that is a big no no.... you can't predict the future.... whos says that Brady doesn't go down, and their season is gone.... then, you have no first rounder.....

there was a reason the raiders wanted to get rid of moss...

if bradys hurt, well be fine. Matt cassel is nuts and these recievers make any qb better.

[Machx72]

Randy Moss is easily one of the best WRs there's ever been in the league... And I think his crappy stats as of late have been because of the QB situation in Oakland.

I'm sure he'll get his ring in New England... If not this year, then sometime very soon.

[XpunkRocker]

yeah, moss will be great with a better QB. but i don't think he will be as good as when he and culpepper were lovers. Those years he was the best in the league hands down. I think this might put him back in the top 15 though.

as for the bills....poz and lynch are amazing. i cannot wait to see them take the field

[Matt]

Wow, so New England got Moss and Bellechik and Brady officially have their fourth Super Bowl rings. New England would've easily won the Super Bowl the past 2 years if Brady actually had a decent reciever. They are officially the most dangerous team in the NFL again.

[Matt]

yeah, moss will be great with a better QB. but i don't think he will be as good as when he and culpepper were lovers. Those years he was the best in the league hands down. I think this might put him back in the top 15 though.


But its not really fair to expect him to be as good as he was 8 years ago. Of course age will have its affect on him, but he still has more natural talent and a better mind for the position than practically any other NFL reciever. Brady can handle the rest.

[XpunkRocker]

yeah, i think they are even better than they were in the SB years. i am not sure one their defense yet though. but the offense has a lot of bullets

[XpunkRocker]

But its not really fair to expect him to be as good as he was 8 years ago. Of course age will have its affect on him, but he still has more natural talent and a better mind for the position than practically any other NFL reciever. Brady can handle the rest.

yeah, i understand that. if they did expect him to be the way he was 8 years ago he would have cost more. but still, a 4th for him is a steel. he is worth at least a 3rd

[Matt]

yeah, i think they are even better than they were in the SB years. i am not sure one their defense yet though. but the offense has a lot of bullets

They may not have the best defense in the league, but it is certainly a capable one. Its not the type of defense like the Colts of 4 years ago that will destroy an otherwise great team.

[Matt]

yeah, i understand that. if they did expect him to be the way he was 8 years ago he would have cost more. but still, a 4th for him is a steel. he is worth at least a 3rd

Hell, I'd say he is worthy of a 1st or 2nd pick. Granted, he is getting up their in the years and his stats haven't be as good, but he has played for Oakland. He had no QB. He is still one of the most talented in the game and the fact that they got him for what they did shows just how badly Moss wanted out of there and how badly Oakland wanted him gone.

[XpunkRocker]

^ yeah, the defense won't be bad. that offense of their's will carry them though. they can even out gun the colts maybe. i have to see the team in action first though and see how they function together

[Matt]

^ yeah, the defense won't be bad. that offense of their's will carry them though. they can even out gun the colts maybe. i have to see the team in action first though and see how they function together

I think Moss could walk up to Brady before every game and give him a pick in the nuts and they would be fine. Brady is if nothing else a downright professional. He won't let backstage drama get in his way. Same with Bellechek. If Moss can be mature about this (and he wants a ring and it is finally in his reach so I imagine he will be) then they will be unstoppable.

[XpunkRocker]

Bellechek and brady are pretty professional. however, i have seen brady get frustrated on the field a lot. But that isn't a big deal. It could always lead to something. but i don't think that will happen anytime soon. i see them doing really well this season too.

[Excel]

still, i say minimum 1000 yards/10 touchdowns for Moss next year. Brady will still spread the ball around a lot, so I see numbers more around what happened to T.O. when romo came in-

expect Moss touchdowns to go up, but the yards will be similar to what hes been doing lately.

Brady will use Moss in addition to Stallworth, Caldwell, Gaffney, Welker, Jackson and whoeber to get down the field in addition to Laurence Maroney, who im sure will be doing 75 yards+per game next year.

But in the red zone, expect the ball to go to Moss atleast once.

I still estimate-assuming no injuries, I d say 1000 yards and 14 touchdowns over 16 games. Hell be way back in yards rankings but should lead in touchdowns unless T.O. really breaks out.

[XpunkRocker]

i tottally agree about the moss and redzone part. moss is their yeah, possession receiver and and stallworth is their speed guy. that will be a perfect combo

[LostSon88]

I wonder if Moss will "know his role" while on the Patriots and remember that this is Brady's show and he's along for the ride....

[XpunkRocker]

with the pats, everyone is supposed to be equal ......*laughs


btw, i am surprised to see not pat fans. they are always around

[Matt]

I wonder if Moss will "know his role" while on the Patriots and remember that this is Brady's show and he's along for the ride....

I really think Moss is growing up a bit and at this point is in it for the ring. I am sure there are plenty of teams in the league that would've paid much more than the Patriots (Kraft is notoriously cheap when it comes to anyone but Brady). The fact that he went there shows he wants his ring...and I think he will bite his tounge if it means the Lombardi Trophy.

[Excel]

IM A HUGE PATS FAN!

This is Bradys show for sure...but brady is not like Donovan McNabb who is a great leader and is very talented, but acts like the spoiled baby he is. Bradys a professional, the whole team is. If Moss thinks hes the whlole show, than Brady will more than likely let him be it as their winning. He wont be like McNabb and get mad if he isnt in the spotlight.

Moss is there to win alot like Corey Dillon was. I expect a similar situation. Theyll use Moss's confidence to win ball games.

[Showtime]

Am I dreaming or did I just hear that the Patriots picked up Randy Moss for a 4th Round Pick?

Heh Heh

[dr venture]

It's true

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/news/story?id=2853116

[Showtime]

Wow.

They are stacked like turkey club...

[Darth Elektra]

The Pats will be dangerous this fall!

[Excel]

so nobody agrees moss will be a great mentor for future star chad jackson?

[cyborg ninja 14]

And through all this improvement by New England, Cam Cameron sits in his office daydreaming about Ted Ginn Jr. returning punts to the 40 yard line every sunday. Following of course will be a three-and-out in the form of Trent Green getting sacked several times a game:dry:

[XpunkRocker]

"you are really going to like seeing him return punts!"

[Darth Elektra]

so nobody agrees moss will be a great mentor for future star chad jackson?

I would say Moss is a great WR.

[Excel]

I predict the Patriots to go undefeated and be the bext team ever assembled in the history of the nfl.

OFFENSE

QB-Tom Brady
Enough said.

RUNNING BACK-Laurence Maroney
Unproven, maybe, but he showed signs of possessing all the skills to be a dominating running back. Speed, power, and breakaway abaility makes a vital weapon to the offense. With his carries going up significantly, look for him to vastly improve on his 750 yard total of last year, for well over 1000-1200 yards and 12-14 touchdowns compared to his 8 last year.

WIDE OUTS-Randy Moss - Donte Stallworth
Because their each such huge down the field threats, they should combine for 30 touchdowns easily. Moss's talent is unquestionable, and Stallworth's been a breakout star in the waiting for years, and had it not been for T.O. and injuries, would have had 1000+ yards in all of years in Phily. Jabar Gaffney showed last year he too has the potential to be abig time reciever, so he is a fantastic 3rd man.

KICKING-GOSTOWSKI
He was nasty last year.

OFFENSIVE LINE
Decent last year while young. With more expirience, they should be able to block enough for Maroney. The addition of 280-pound tight ende Kyle Brady should hjelp give Brady some extra time for his recievers to get open or down the field, or help lead block for Maroney on his sweeps or passes in the flats in which he can explode down the field.

DEFENSE
Warren, Wilfork, Seymour, Bruschi,Colvin, Vrabel, Samuel, Harrison, Wilson and Hobbs all returing plus addition of pro bowl line backer Adalius Thomas to the defense that allowed an average of 14 points a game.

Basically,their offense looks set to score 30 points a game easy, while the defense, which gave up only 15 a game last year, has added a nasty linebacker. Their the top 3 best offenses and defenses in the NFL.

CAN THEY BE STOPPED FROM WINNING THE SUPER BOEWL ANDS GOING 19-0?!?!?!? HELL NO!

[Immortalfire]

ICAN THEY BE STOPPED FROM WINNING THE SUPER BOEWL ANDS GOING 19-0?!?!?!?

Yes.

[Excel]

nope. by who? they can outscore the chargers, colts, saints, and they can contain any offense in the nfl.

[Immortalfire]

I'm merely on the stance that no one's unbeatable.

[Excel]

oh i see. of course i forgot its a given theyll loose to the dolphins in miami at the end of the season

[NewYorkSpider]

CAN THEY BE STOPPED FROM WINNING THE SUPER BOEWL ANDS GOING 19-0?!?!?!? HELL NO!

Everybody thought that the Colts would go undefeated and they didn't. Just because the Patriots got Moss doesn't mean that they will go 19-0.

[bored]

nope. by who? they can outscore the chargers, colts, saints, and they can contain any offense in the nfl.

Any given Sunday, Excy.


By the way, Stallworth was only with Philly for one season, and that was after TO was gone. He was with the Saints before that.

[kane9321]

Man...my Niners are building one hell of a team. :woot:

we are almost there...can we start the season now:woot:

i still wanted a physical end though

[Machx72]

nope. by who? they can outscore the chargers, colts, saints, and they can contain any offense in the nfl.

Yes, they can.

I'm merely on the stance that no one's unbeatable.

This is the utmost truth... ESPECIALLY with the NFL. ANYTHING can happen.

****, Peyton Manning lost to the Texans and Titans for God's sake.

The Patriots lost to Peyton in the AFC Championship... They lost to the QB "Who Can't Win The Big One."

The Saints made it to the NFC Championship.

ANYTHING can happen.

[Excel]

oh i know da phrase any given sunday...but i have reason for my optimism and yall cant deney it.

[Ghostrider87]

Yes, they can.



This is the utmost truth... ESPECIALLY with the NFL. ANYTHING can happen.

****, Peyton Manning lost to the Texans and Titans for God's sake.

The Patriots lost to Peyton in the AFC Championship... They lost to the QB "Who Can't Win The Big One."

The Saints made it to the NFC Championship.

ANYTHING can happen.

I actually thought that he would beat the Texans twice. But I was not surprised that he lost to the Titans. Vince Young had plenty of momentum and got hot at the right time to beat Peyton Manning. He just really outplayed the Colts and was to much for them the second time around in the rematch in Nashville.

The Titans have made plenty of great picks in the NFL draft to add to their team and look like they will be returning as one of the best teams in the NFL in the 2007 season.

[Darth Elektra]

I'm merely on the stance that no one's unbeatable.

Exactly.

[Immortalfire]

Yes, they can.



This is the utmost truth... ESPECIALLY with the NFL. ANYTHING can happen.

****, Peyton Manning lost to the Texans and Titans for God's sake.

The Patriots lost to Peyton in the AFC Championship... They lost to the QB "Who Can't Win The Big One."

The Saints made it to the NFC Championship.

ANYTHING can happen.
Kind of like the sports ad, I don't know who put it together but it's point was like If everything went like it's "supposed" to, why would anyone play?

[Showtime]

I predict the Patriots to go undefeated and be the bext team ever assembled in the history of the nfl.

OFFENSE

QB-Tom Brady
Enough said.

RUNNING BACK-Laurence Maroney
Unproven, maybe, but he showed signs of possessing all the skills to be a dominating running back. Speed, power, and breakaway abaility makes a vital weapon to the offense. With his carries going up significantly, look for him to vastly improve on his 750 yard total of last year, for well over 1000-1200 yards and 12-14 touchdowns compared to his 8 last year.

WIDE OUTS-Randy Moss - Donte Stallworth
Because their each such huge down the field threats, they should combine for 30 touchdowns easily. Moss's talent is unquestionable, and Stallworth's been a breakout star in the waiting for years, and had it not been for T.O. and injuries, would have had 1000+ yards in all of years in Phily. Jabar Gaffney showed last year he too has the potential to be abig time reciever, so he is a fantastic 3rd man.

KICKING-GOSTOWSKI
He was nasty last year.

OFFENSIVE LINE
Decent last year while young. With more expirience, they should be able to block enough for Maroney. The addition of 280-pound tight ende Kyle Brady should hjelp give Brady some extra time for his recievers to get open or down the field, or help lead block for Maroney on his sweeps or passes in the flats in which he can explode down the field.

DEFENSE
Warren, Wilfork, Seymour, Bruschi,Colvin, Vrabel, Samuel, Harrison, Wilson and Hobbs all returing plus addition of pro bowl line backer Adalius Thomas to the defense that allowed an average of 14 points a game.

Basically,their offense looks set to score 30 points a game easy, while the defense, which gave up only 15 a game last year, has added a nasty linebacker. Their the top 3 best offenses and defenses in the NFL.

CAN THEY BE STOPPED FROM WINNING THE SUPER BOEWL ANDS GOING 19-0?!?!?!? HELL NO!

Let's not get to crazy? Undefeated? I don't know about that. They are definately good on paper.

[NewYorkSpider]

My Unofficial pick to win the AFC right now is the Patriots. NFC is a toss up.

[Showtime]

I think the Patriots should be the favorite now.

[Mister J]

IIRC, they were announced as the early Vegas favorites after the sometime after Super Bowl.

God, this sucks. The goddamn Patriots are fortifying a kickass team and the Dolphins drafted a ****ing punt returner at #9. :down

[NewYorkSpider]

I love what the Bucs have done. Getting Jeff Garcia and having a well balanced draft certainly makes them contenders. The NFC South is gonna be VERY competitive come September.

[Ben Urich]

IIRC, they were announced as the early Vegas favorites after the sometime after Super Bowl.

God, this sucks. The goddamn Patriots are fortifying a kickass team and the Dolphins drafted a ****ing punt returner at #9. :down

At least they got their franchise quarterback.
... in the second round. :dry:

[Excel]

Troy Smith Went At 178!


Bwhahahahhahaahhahahaah

[bored]

Troy Smith Went At 178!


Bwhahahahhahaahhahahaah


Somebody's a Michigan fan.

[DBella]

Seahawks traded D-Jack to the 49ers. :huh:

[NewYorkSpider]

Seahawks traded D-Jack to the 49ers. :huh:

Yes they did.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/news/story?id=2851912

[bored]

Odd, since he's their most reliable, but Seattle's still pretty stacked at wideout, what with Deion Branch, and DJ Hackett (star receiver of the Heavily-Armed Lemurs last season).

[DBella]

Yes they did.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/news/story?id=2851912
I know they traded D-Jack... just wondering why him.

[DBella]

Odd, since he's their most reliable, but Seattle's still pretty stacked at wideout, what with Deion Branch, and DJ Hackett (star receiver of the Heavily-Armed Lemurs last season).
My thoughts exactly... that D-Jack's one of their most reliable. I'll so miss him. :csad:

[bored]

I feel your pain. The Chiefs traded Dante Hall, one of my long time favorite players, a few days ago.

[DBella]

It cuts like a knife. :csad: I thought they'd draft at least one QB but I don't think they did.

[Showtime]

What about Deion Branch...

[bored]

oh i know da phrase any given sunday...but i have reason for my optimism and yall cant deney it.

I believe it was the noted thespian, Lord Samuel L. Jackson the First, who stated, "English, mother****er, do you speak it?!"


And yes, I can deny it. No matter how good a team looks on paper, they can always lose, and generally will, at least once or twice. The Pats will most likely continue to dominate the AFC East, but they will still lose games.

[bored]

What about Deion Branch...


The Seahawks have still got him.

[Mee]

Hahaha

I still can't believe the Pats got Moss. And they had a stacked team anyway. If he plays up to his potential, and they can stay healthy, they've got the AFC. Yes ma'am.


But besides that, go Cowboys! :cmad:

[StorminNorman]

It cuts like a knife. :csad: I thought they'd draft at least one QB but I don't think they did.

You guys have David Greene :csad:

[StorminNorman]

Hahaha

I still can't believe the Pats got Moss. And they had a stacked team anyway. If he plays up to his potential, and they can stay healthy, they've got the AFC. Yes ma'am.


But besides that, go Cowboys! :cmad:

Gayturds still suck! :cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad:

HA HA HA HA HA I am soo witty

[Mee]

Gayturds still suck! :cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad:

I dunno who you're talking about. :cmad:

[NewYorkSpider]

Florida QB Chris Leak to sign with Bears.

[StorminNorman]

I dunno who you're talking about. :cmad:

Just take a look in your cabinet!

http://www.hotsauceharrys.com/AB1844000Store/images/hshimages/FloridaGators_Snack.jpg

[cyborg ninja 14]

Just take a look in your cabinet!

http://www.hotsauceharrys.com/AB1844000Store/images/hshimages/FloridaGators_Snack.jpg

http://gringobandito.com/images/whatsinthis/bottle.jpg
:o

[Immortalfire]

You guys have David Greene :csad:

That boy's ready to rock in the NFL, I can feel it. If they'd let him.

[Prognosticator]

Hahaha

I still can't believe the Pats got Moss. And they had a stacked team anyway. If he plays up to his potential, and they can stay healthy, they've got the AFC. Yes ma'am.


But besides that, go Cowboys! :cmad:

I'm so unbelievably bored w/Dallas' draft selection :dry: It was such a waste and so mediocre....I don't think they had any sort of gameplan. :(


......:cmad:

[FaT_tONle]

What the heck did you want (Cowboys) to do??? The only questionable pick was the QB/receiver in Stanback... other than that it was a decent draft.... I wish they could have adressed the secondary a lot sooner though... but the value just wasn't there at 26

[DBella]

You guys have David Greene :csad:
Very true but did you see him play at all last season. No? Neither did I? I wonder how he is... Back to the draft, it seems to me that, compared to other teams, Seahawks didn't make very good picks and I wonder if any that they picked will even start for the team. Much like David Greene.

Oh, they traded D-Jack and acquired Mansfield Wrotto. How is that guy? He better be good coz to me, D-Jack is quite priceless.

[Fran]

Rams will win the West by one game this year. Mark my words. :up:

[DBella]

Rams will win the West by one game this year. Mark my words. :up:
I dunno... I think 49ers might.

[Ghostrider87]

I dunno... I think 49ers might.


I agree I think that the 49ers might be returning as a dominat team in the 2007 season. I actually think they might just beat out the Rams for the divison title.

[kane9321]

My 49ers will be greatly improved...maybe 9-7, 10-6

I cant wait

[DBella]

I agree I think that the 49ers might be returning as a dominat team in the 2007 season. I actually think they might just beat out the Rams for the divison title.

My 49ers will be greatly improved...maybe 9-7, 10-6

I cant wait
You people make me sad. GO SEAHAWKS!!! :csad:

But yeah... that's how I see it too. Dammit, Seahawks!

[Immortalfire]

Very true but did you see him play at all last season. No? Neither did I? I wonder how he is... .

He's the winningest QB in the NCAA, that's how :yay:

[DBella]

He's the winningest QB in the NCAA, that's how :yay:
I wish the Seahawks will let him start at least one game, maybe in the preseason in August. I'd like that very much. I know how Hasselback and Wallace are but I'd like to see how Greene performs with the team as a starter.

[kane9321]

You people make me sad. GO SEAHAWKS!!! :csad:

But yeah... that's how I see it too. Dammit, Seahawks!

i still love you bella:woot:

49ers for life

[Kaleb]

i think the lions,49ers,raiders and panthers had excellent drafts.im not sure about my team taking troy smith though in the 5th.

[kane9321]

i still wanted allan branch...but hey, we improved our d..sweet

[Mee]

Just take a look in your cabinet!

http://www.hotsauceharrys.com/AB1844000Store/images/hshimages/FloridaGators_Snack.jpg

Oh, we're crossing leagues now. :o Hey, if Tebow is the next Vince Young, we could win it all again. Mwahahahaha!



...But I doubt he is. :csad:

[FaT_tONle]

Dang.... Looking at the patriots roster and I can't believe it....

Moss, Welker, K. Washington, Chad Jackson, Stallworth, Caldwell.... how many receivers can you have... not to mention tight ends Watson and Brady... plus they added Sammy Morris... if the defense can just stay healthy they are gonna win another one...

[Immortalfire]

Tebow = the white Michael Vick.

[Prognosticator]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2853748

Vick promises changes in his personal life
Associated Press


FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. -- Michael Vick confirmed in a TV interview taped Saturday that he met with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to discuss problems that have plagued the Atlanta Falcons' quarterback this offseason.


Vick
"After what happened ... I just wanted to crawl in a hole. I can't take it no more," Vick told ESPN. "I walk around with a smile on my face and act like I'm happy, but on the inside it's hurting. And it's killing me. I ain't got no more energy left for it. The more I continue to do things and my name is in the media, I'm not going to get anywhere."

ESPN aired the interview during the second round of the NFL draft on Sunday.

Goodell requested time with Vick at Radio City Music Hall, where the NFL held the draft. Vick was in town to make an appearance on behalf of his alma mater, Virginia Tech, following the on-campus shootings that killed 33 people two weeks ago.

Falcons vice president of communications Reggie Roberts said he hadn't spoken with Vick since his conversation with Goodell, but the quarterback's personal problems have clearly embarrassed the NFL and the team.

In the last week, Vick's name surfaced when police in Virginia arrested his cousin on drug charges at rural property the quarterback owns. Police reported that during their investigation they found neglected animals and evidence of dog fighting, including veterinary medications, treadmills for training and blood-soaked carpets similar to the ones used in fight pits.

Vick also skipped a congressional breakfast he'd been invited to earlier in the week on Capitol Hill to discuss federal funding for urban football facilities.

In January, Vick was stopped at the Miami airport carrying a water bottle with a secret compartment that allegedly smelled like marijuana residue.

He vowed to make changes in his personal life regarding the kind of people he associates with.

"I'm taking it upon myself and giving everybody my word that things are going to get changed around," Vick said. "Things are going to get turned around. I have a game plan for it. ... The company I keep, a lot of things [have] got to change, and I mean that from the heart."

On Saturday, Falcons general manager Rich McKay promised to look further into Vick's recent problems after the team finishes signing undrafted college free agents over the next two days.

"I don't want to say I've neglected it, but it's not something I've been able to focus on," McKay said. "I do want to get further into it and focus on it next week."

Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press




....Bull ****! :cmad: :down

[Johnny Blaze]

Oh, we're crossing leagues now. :o Hey, if Tebow is the next Vince Young, we could win it all again. Mwahahahaha!



...But I doubt he is. :csad:

I don't know...I think by the time his junior year rolls around he'll be a beast of a quarterback. Especially in Urban's spread offense. He did a lot of running last season, but people forget that he is a good passer as well. Not to mention we still got Harvin. :up:

Still, it'll be a ***** to win another title even with Tebow and Co. with how tough the SEC is. And I'm just talking about the conference title. :o

[cyborg ninja 14]

Ginn unsure he'll be ready for Dolphins' training camp

DAVIE, Fla. -- Miami Dolphins coach Cam Cameron might want to brace for another round of boos: Top draft pick Ted Ginn Jr. says he's unsure whether he'll be healthy for the start of training camp.

Ginn paid a visit to the Dolphins' complex Sunday and said his sprained left foot will be in a boot for about a month. Rehabilitation will follow, and Ginn said there's no guarantee he'll be ready to practice when camp begins in three months.

"It's whatever the training staff says," the speedy Ohio State receiver-returner said. "I hope that I'm going to be able to be there day one."

Ginn will miss mini-camp May 4-6, but the Dolphins said they expect Ginn to be healthy for the start of training camp.

"We feel good about Ted's foot," general manager Randy Mueller said.

Ginn was hurt in the BCS national championship game Jan. 8 after returning the opening kickoff 93 yards for a touchdown against Florida. The injury happened during an end zone celebration.

Fans jeered Cameron at the Dolphins' draft party Saturday for bypassing Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn in the first round and picking Ginn instead.


Can you say D'oh!?:o

[Johnny Blaze]

Ginn unsure he'll be ready for Dolphins' training camp

DAVIE, Fla. -- Miami Dolphins coach Cam Cameron might want to brace for another round of boos: Top draft pick Ted Ginn Jr. says he's unsure whether he'll be healthy for the start of training camp.

Ginn paid a visit to the Dolphins' complex Sunday and said his sprained left foot will be in a boot for about a month. Rehabilitation will follow, and Ginn said there's no guarantee he'll be ready to practice when camp begins in three months.

"It's whatever the training staff says," the speedy Ohio State receiver-returner said. "I hope that I'm going to be able to be there day one."

Ginn will miss mini-camp May 4-6, but the Dolphins said they expect Ginn to be healthy for the start of training camp.

"We feel good about Ted's foot," general manager Randy Mueller said.

Ginn was hurt in the BCS national championship game Jan. 8 after returning the opening kickoff 93 yards for a touchdown against Florida. The injury happened during an end zone celebration.

Fans jeered Cameron at the Dolphins' draft party Saturday for bypassing Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn in the first round and picking Ginn instead.


Can you say D'oh!?:o

Hahahahaha! This is great. Coach Cameron better hope Ginn is able to get healed quick-like. If Ginn doesn't make a big splash this year then they're really going to let him have it. :D

A part of me feels sorry for Dolphins fans over all this. To take a injured returner/receiver who's still unpolished over a potential franchise quarterback? So depressing... :(

[StorminNorman]

Rams will win the West by one game this year. Mark my words. :up:

Seahawks = 49ers > Rams = Cardinals

Thats how I see the West

[Darth Elektra]

Yahoo grades the NFL teams in the draft.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-nfcdraftgrades043007&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[Cmill216]

Yahoo grades the NFL teams in the draft.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-nfcdraftgrades043007&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Everyone in the NFC South helped themselves pretty darn well.

- The number one offense in the league added a pretty darn good playmaker at wide receiver.

- The Falcons got three instant starters on the lines and at corner.

- The Panthers nabbed a good linebacker, receiver, and a steal at center.

- Tampa added one of the draft's best defensive players and added nothing but depth to that side of the ball.

[NewYorkSpider]

Vic Carucci's best drafters.

Carolina Panthers
Atlanta Falcons
Indianapolis Colts
Cleveland Browns

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/10157105

[FaT_tONle]

Hahahahaha! This is great. Coach Cameron better hope Ginn is able to get healed quick-like. If Ginn doesn't make a big splash this year then they're really going to let him have it. :D

A part of me feels sorry for Dolphins fans over all this. To take a injured returner/receiver who's still unpolished over a potential franchise quarterback? So depressing... :(

I would have loved to see Brady vs Brady... but the dolphins are idiots and will remain in the basement of the AFC East where they belong

[Darth Elektra]

Vic Carucci's best drafters.

Carolina Panthers
Atlanta Falcons
Indianapolis Colts
Cleveland Browns

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/10157105

Sweet :up:

[Excel]

:woot: Moss ran a 4.28 forty today.

[SurfDUI]

Dang.... Looking at the patriots roster and I can't believe it....

Moss, Welker, K. Washington, Chad Jackson, Stallworth, Caldwell.... how many receivers can you have... not to mention tight ends Watson and Brady... plus they added Sammy Morris... if the defense can just stay healthy they are gonna win another one...


The Hood is an evil genuius:trans: , this team makes moves to win and they are YOUR Indiananpolis COLTS...once again, main competition.

HOPEFULLY, Billy Pollian has his ear to the street for Defensive free agency. I wouldn't mind picking up Dahani Jones, since I heard the Eagles cut him.

[Immortalfire]

Where my Dawgs went..

Tony Taylor, Gordon Ely-Kelso - Falcons
Danny Ware, Jarvis Jackson - Titans
Tra Battle, Chargers
Nick Jones - Seahawks
Danny Verdun Wheeler - Bears

[StorminNorman]

Where my Dawgs went..

Tony Taylor, Gordon Ely-Kelso - Falcons
Danny Ware, Jarvis Jackson - Titans
Tra Battle, Chargers
Nick Jones - Seahawks
Danny Verdun Wheeler - Bears

Taylor is a damn good pickup for the Falcons - I think he has the most upside out of everyone listed.

Tra Battle too could possibly become something.

If Kelso makes the roster - who knows, he was a good kicker.

Jackson, Jones, Wheeler will never become anything in the NFL I fear :(

[Mee]

Go Gators! :cmad:

[bored]

Rams will win the West by one game this year. Mark my words. :up:

:( And it'll be off a clutch Dante Hall kick-off return, to. Mark my words. :( again

[ScottyBBadd]

I was shocked the Cowboys drafted a kicker.

[FaT_tONle]

The Hood is an evil genuius:trans: , this team makes moves to win and they are YOUR Indiananpolis COLTS...once again, main competition.

HOPEFULLY, Billy Pollian has his ear to the street for Defensive free agency. I wouldn't mind picking up Dahani Jones, since I heard the Eagles cut him.

Colt fans have to admit though they lucked out... Defense peaked at the right time... but they should have been playing @ San Diego if it wasn't for Marty Ball... this defense won't do it again with all the subtractions... I like their draft... but Manning will have his hands full... they still will win the division but they need homefield... and the Patriots will get it this time... unless Brady tears an ACL or the defense suffers a rash of injuries... Pats are going 14-2.

[Mee]

I was shocked the Cowboys drafted a kicker.
Well, we do need one. I have no idea who the kid is we drafted though.

[Erundur]

Washington Redskins:

One pick in the first five rounds is a major disappointment. Granted, the pick – LSU safety LaRon Landry – is an amazing player who likely will give the Redskins the best safety tandem in the NFL. With Sean Taylor and Landry, going over the middle will be nothing less than medieval torture for Washington opponents. But as good as that pick is, going another 136 selections before your next choice is rough. And the Redskins got little more than backup depth and special teams guys in linebackers Dallas Sartz and H.B. Blades and tight end Tyler Ecker. Quarterback Jordan Palmer, brother of Cincinnati's Carson Palmer, might be nothing more than a camp novelty.

Grade: D+

We need a DE. :(

[Cmill216]

MeShawn Cut

The Panthers have reportedly released WR Keyshawn Johnson.

"They said they wanted to get younger," Johnson told the St. Petersburg Times. "That's fine with me. I'd like to go somewhere and help someone win another Super Bowl." The Panthers' decision to draft Dwayne Jarrett was apparently not so he could study under Johnson, then contribute in the future. Jarrett and Drew Carter are now likely to compete to start.

[Kaleb]

CBS3 news anchor Alycia Lane is in a pickle after private e-mails and bikini photos she sent to NFL Network anchor Rich Eisen were intercepted by his wife, the New York Post reported today.

Lane, who is recently divorced, sent seven e-mails and several photos to an account shared by Eisen and his wife, Suzy Shuster, who reports from the sidelines for ABC’s college football broadcasts, the Post reported.



Shuster responded with an angry letter to Lane, which was obtained by the Post’s Page Six, which read: “Boy, do you look amazing in a bikini … congrats! Whatever you’re doing (Pilates? yoga?) keep doing it – it’s working for you. Anyway, sorry but those seven e-mails you sent to my husband, Rich, well, oops, they came to the e-mail address we both use from time to time, but no worries, I’ll forward the beach shots as well as the ones of you dancing with your friends on to his main address. Do you have it?”

She goes on to provide her hubby’s private e-mail address, “since you surely are trying so hard to get his attention. I mean, what better way to get a guy’s attention than with skin! Best – Suzy Shuster Eisen”

A source told Page Six: “Alycia is divorced and apparently looking for love again in all the wrong places. She send [Eisen] an e-mail saying she was going to L.A., and she attached some risqué pictures just to whet his appetite. But, whoops, Rich is married to Suzy.”

Both Lane and Eisen refused comment for the Post report, and Shuster did not respond to their e-mail seeking comment.





I guess he must be getting total access as well

[Darth Elektra]

MeShawn Cut

I never have liked Keyshawn, However Im suprised the panthers let him go.

[Cmill216]

CBS3 news anchor Alycia Lane is in a pickle after private e-mails and bikini photos she sent to NFL Network anchor Rich Eisen were intercepted by his wife, the New York Post reported today.


http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/998/35311731io7.jpg

Yummy.

[cyborg ninja 14]

I never have liked Keyshawn, However Im suprised the panthers let him go.

Strange considering how he was doing the NFL draft all day, and supporting His (now former) team's picks. Although, it would've been funny as hell had the Panthers cut Keyshawn immediately following the Jarret pick. I can see it now...

Berman: "We have some late breaking news! The Panthers have just cut Keyshawn Johnso-...*Everyone awkwardly stares at Keyshawn for 5 seconds*...Now lets go down to Suzy Kolber who's with (random whoever)."

[cyborg ninja 14]

CBS3 news anchor Alycia Lane is in a pickle after private e-mails and bikini photos she sent to NFL Network anchor Rich Eisen were intercepted by his wife, the New York Post reported today.

Lane, who is recently divorced, sent seven e-mails and several photos to an account shared by Eisen and his wife, Suzy Shuster, who reports from the sidelines for ABC’s college football broadcasts, the Post reported.

Shuster responded with an angry letter to Lane, which was obtained by the Post’s Page Six, which read: “Boy, do you look amazing in a bikini … congrats! Whatever you’re doing (Pilates? yoga?) keep doing it – it’s working for you. Anyway, sorry but those seven e-mails you sent to my husband, Rich, well, oops, they came to the e-mail address we both use from time to time, but no worries, I’ll forward the beach shots as well as the ones of you dancing with your friends on to his main address. Do you have it?”

She goes on to provide her hubby’s private e-mail address, “since you surely are trying so hard to get his attention. I mean, what better way to get a guy’s attention than with skin! Best – Suzy Shuster Eisen”

A source told Page Six: “Alycia is divorced and apparently looking for love again in all the wrong places. She send [Eisen] an e-mail saying she was going to L.A., and she attached some risqué pictures just to whet his appetite. But, whoops, Rich is married to Suzy.”

Both Lane and Eisen refused comment for the Post report, and Shuster did not respond to their e-mail seeking comment.





I guess he must be getting total access as well

http://images.nfl.com/images/author/8351.jpg

[Showtime]

CBS3 news anchor Alycia Lane is in a pickle after private e-mails and bikini photos she sent to NFL Network anchor Rich Eisen were intercepted by his wife, the New York Post reported today.

Lane, who is recently divorced, sent seven e-mails and several photos to an account shared by Eisen and his wife, Suzy Shuster, who reports from the sidelines for ABC’s college football broadcasts, the Post reported.



Shuster responded with an angry letter to Lane, which was obtained by the Post’s Page Six, which read: “Boy, do you look amazing in a bikini … congrats! Whatever you’re doing (Pilates? yoga?) keep doing it – it’s working for you. Anyway, sorry but those seven e-mails you sent to my husband, Rich, well, oops, they came to the e-mail address we both use from time to time, but no worries, I’ll forward the beach shots as well as the ones of you dancing with your friends on to his main address. Do you have it?”

She goes on to provide her hubby’s private e-mail address, “since you surely are trying so hard to get his attention. I mean, what better way to get a guy’s attention than with skin! Best – Suzy Shuster Eisen”

A source told Page Six: “Alycia is divorced and apparently looking for love again in all the wrong places. She send [Eisen] an e-mail saying she was going to L.A., and she attached some risqué pictures just to whet his appetite. But, whoops, Rich is married to Suzy.”

Both Lane and Eisen refused comment for the Post report, and Shuster did not respond to their e-mail seeking comment.





I guess he must be getting total access as well

Shuster handled that like a champ. What does Shuster look like?

[Showtime]

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/998/35311731io7.jpg

Yummy.

That's Lane right?

[Showtime]

It wouldn't suprise me if the Pats pick up Keyshawn too...

[Darth Elektra]

Strange considering how he was doing the NFL draft all day, and supporting His (now former) team's picks. Although, it would've been funny as hell had the Panthers cut Keyshawn immediately following the Jarret pick. I can see it now...

Berman: "We have some late breaking news! The Panthers have just cut Keyshawn Johnso-...*Everyone awkwardly stares at Keyshawn for 5 seconds*...Now lets go down to Suzy Kolber who's with (random whoever)."

lmao.

[FaT_tONle]

Nah ^^^... he should go to the Ravens or some *****....

[ScottyBBadd]

Well, we do need one. I have no idea who the kid is we drafted though.

All I know about Nick Folk is he is out of Arizona, and he had the best combine.

[NewYorkSpider]

MeShawn Cut

I'm very surprised we did this. Never really seen it coming. I'm kinda glad Dwayne Jarret gets to get his study time from Steve Smith rather than Johnson though.

[Immortalfire]

David Pollack wants to come back.. http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/uga/stories/2007/05/02/0503pollack.html

[Fran]

I wanted to post this once again, because it's the funniest post I've read out of the two NFL threads I've participated in.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k287/lforlucas/LuthorRantPost.jpg

[Prognosticator]

Sometimes this thread really wears me out...Usually around the time everybody starts acting like Jaws. :whatever:

[Badger]

:( And it'll be off a clutch Dante Hall kick-off return, to. Mark my words. :( again

Only if said kickoff return needs to go 20 yards. Now he'll run 60 yards to get those 20, but still 20 yards. Hopefully St. Louis has got some good blockers or he'll pack it in and ***** about how nobody likes him any more.

[bored]

Did you ever WATCH a Dante Hall return in the last two seasons? The special teamers couldn't form a wedge to save their lives.

[Badger]

Only if said kickoff return needs to go 20 yards. Now he'll run 60 yards to get those 20, but still 20 yards. Hopefully St. Louis has got some good blockers or he'll pack it in and ***** about how nobody likes him any more.

Did you ever WATCH a Dante Hall return in the last two seasons? The special teamers couldn't form a wedge to save their lives.

Yes, many of them from Arrowhead. I'm aware that we couldn't block for him. But riddle me this, was it Dante or Dante's blocking that made him special? He has clearly lost his spark. He has forgotten how to run in straight line and whines when things are tough. And, with no Dick to hold his hand it's better for him to move on.

I wish him the best of luck in St. Louis. :up:

Gone is our Dante of yore. :csad:

[Johnny Blaze]

Here's something funny...

Chad Johnson talks trash to rookie (http://fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/2171)

God, I love that man. He's freakin' great. :woot:

[Fran]

LMAO!

Pacman Jones went to a strip-club before his meeting with the Commish.

I did the same thing to prepare for my job interview :o:up:

Goodell aware of Jones' pre-hearing visit to club
By Chris Mortensen
ESPN.com

On the eve of his appeal to NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, Adam "Pacman" Jones probably should avoid what he did the last time he was in New York for the meeting that led to his one-year suspension.

Jones went to a strip club, sources close to the league, the NFL Players Association and Jones have confirmed.

The night before his April 3 meeting with Goodell to talk about his off-field conduct, Jones made a late-night trip to an adult New York club. Jones was spotted inside the club shortly after he had a face-to-face meeting with two leading veteran players, Takeo Spikes and Troy Vincent, who traveled to New York to urge Jones to clean up his act.

When the Goodell and Jones met the next day, the commissioner already was made aware of Jones' late-night excursion because security from the strip club tipped off NFL security.

Rather than directly confront Jones, the commissioner gave him a test, sources said.

According to these sources, Goodell asked Jones what he was doing to help himself to change his lifestyle. Jones gave a lot of the right answers, such as volunteering that he was going to avoid the nightclub scene.

The commissioner asked him if the self-imposed ban included strip clubs. Jones said yes.

Goodell then asked Jones the last time he had visited a strip club.

Jones became a bit fidgety, perhaps suspicious that the commissioner was on to him, before he answered, "A day ago," sources said.

Technically, Jones told the truth, even though his actual timeline was less than 24 hours by the moment he met with Goodell.

Nobody but Goodell knows for sure how it factored in his decision to suspend Jones for the 2007 season.

Friday's appeal will be a more formal hearing in which Jones' legal representatives will present a list of 283 NFL players who have had off-field issues or encounters without being suspended for an entire season. In other words, they will attempt to show there was no recent precedent for Goodell's harsh decision.

The problem for Jones is that his case is appealed to the commissioner -- the same person who made the decision to suspend him for the 2007 season for conduct detrimental to the league on numerous occasions. Jones' off-field conduct has included 10 incidents for which he was interviewed by police; the most recent took place in a Las Vegas strip club during NBA All-Star Weekend.

Even with a spirit of cooperation between the NFLPA and Goodell on the issue of player conduct, the goal of having the new policy drafted into the collective bargaining agreement hit a wall.

Gene Upshaw, executive dirtector of the NFLPA, refused to adopt the new conduct policy into the CBA unless suspensions of one year or longer could be appealed to an independent arbitrator. The commissioner refused, citing the proposal as a last-minute ambush by the union, sources said.

Goodell certainly will cite that his suspension of Jones includes the ability for Jones to be reinstated after the 10th game if he stays out of trouble and is cleared of pending cases in Las Vegas and Atlanta.

If Goodell lets his original decision stand, there are legal scholars -- some of whom have lofty positions in other professional sports leagues -- who believe Jones might have a case if he seeks a remedy through federal courts.

[Mister J]

****in Thug Life Jones. :whatever:

If he was serious about changing his routine, he'd take the punishment and work his ass off to prove he's not a complete tool, with the intent of getting back on the field in Week 11. I hope this thing stands, if not a couple of games added to it.

[Cmill216]

Chad Johnson talks trash to rookie (http://fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/2171)

...placing an autographed football card of himself and a hand-written note in the locker of first-round draft pick Leon Hall, a cornerback from Michigan. The note read: "This is as close as you'll get to touch me. God bless."

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! That's gold. :D :up:


Pacman Jones went to a strip-club before his meeting with the Commish.

When I heard that earlier today, my face literally did this -> :dry:

[Ben Urich]

Chad Johnson : football = Manny Ramirez : baseball

[Mister J]

Johnson is going to repeatedly (though innocuously) ask to be traded and walk around naked in the locker room, trying on everyone else's clothes? :confused:

[cyborg ninja 14]

LMAO!

Pacman Jones went to a strip-club before his meeting with the Commish.

I did the same thing to prepare for my job interview :o:up:

Is it possible that Goodell and Pacman had their meeting at a strip club?:woot:

[ScottyBBadd]

Is it possible that Goodell and Pacman had their meeting at a strip club?:woot:

It is quite possible.

[Johnny Blaze]

Poor old Pacman...just can't seem to shake off his old lifestyle. He truly is a victim. :whatever:

It does kind of suck though. I am a defensive guy, and Jones is fun to watch on the field. I'm hoping he can actually get his **** together and turn his life around...but I'm definitely not going to be holding my breath on it. :o

[Immortalfire]

LMAO!

Pacman Jones went to a strip-club before his meeting with the Commish.

I did the same thing to prepare for my job interview :o:up:

Don't post stuff like that again :cmad:

[ck51100]

I was just listening to ESPN radio....Chris Mortensen is reporting that Ricky Williams failed a drug test in April. He tested positive for marijuana, so that will definately delay if not end his hopes of being reinstated into the league.

[bored]

LMAO!

Pacman Jones went to a strip-club before his meeting with the Commish.

I did the same thing to prepare for my job interview :o:up:


Shut up. Never post stuff like that again. Thug Life will buy all of his friends lap dances and prove you all wrong.

[Mee]

I was just listening to ESPN radio....Chris Mortensen is reporting that Ricky Williams failed a drug test in April. He tested positive for marijuana, so that will definately delay if not end his hopes of being reinstated into the league.
Yeah...I don't think he's coming back.

[ck51100]

I don't think he is either. I honestly don't know why any team would take a risk on him b/c you have to think that at some point the league is going to suspend him for failing a test. He just isn't dependable.

[Johnny Blaze]

It's kind of funny too. You'd think that he'd stop smoking for a bit, knowing he'd have to take a drug test to get back into the league. But I guess that just went over his half-baked head.

Freakin' guy's giving stoners a bad name. :o

[Excel]

Chad Johnson : football = Manny Ramirez : baseball

hell no.

1. Manny is nasty. Johnson had 7 tds last year.
2. Manny is nice. Johnsons a *****.
3. Manny acts like a stoned teenager. Johnson acts like a 10 year old girl.

Mannys far more likeable.

[Kaleb]

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (May 11, 2007) -- Nashville police ticketed Titans cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones for speeding four days before his meeting with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to appeal his season-long suspension.

Jones was stopped at 12:45 a.m. on May 7 on Interstate 65 heading into downtown after an officer clocked him on radar at 79 mph in a 55 mph zone. He was driving the 2004 Cadillac XLT sportscar he bought at police auction last fall with "PAC-MAN" embroidered into the seats.

Police spokesman Don Aaron said Jones also was cited for not having a driver's license with him.

The cornerback was in New York today to meet with Goodell for the second time since April 3. The commissioner needed a week after the first hearing to suspend Jones for the 2007 season for conduct detrimental to the NFL. Jones called that penalty too harsh and appealed to Goodell for leniency.




hahahahhahhaah

[Johnny Blaze]

Looks like Alan Faneca no longer wants to be a Pittsburg Steeler...

Faneca Upset (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2867828)

Sucks for Pittsburg to lose such a good lineman. Still, I guess there's always the slim hope that some sort of deal can be worked out. But I don't think it's going to happen.

While I am a fan of Mike Tomlin and think he could be a great head coach, he sure is off to a rocky start with some of his veteran guys. :o

[bored]

hell no.

1. Manny is nasty. Johnson had 7 tds last year.
2. Manny is nice. Johnsons a *****.
3. Manny acts like a stoned teenager. Johnson acts like a 10 year old girl.

Mannys far more likeable.


Could be worse. He could be Terrell Owens.

[Mister J]

I was just listening to ESPN radio....Chris Mortensen is reporting that Ricky Williams failed a drug test in April. He tested positive for marijuana, so that will definately delay if not end his hopes of being reinstated into the league.
Christ, Ricky. :whatever:
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (May 11, 2007) -- Nashville police ticketed Titans cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones for speeding four days before his meeting with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to appeal his season-long suspension.

Jones was stopped at 12:45 a.m. on May 7 on Interstate 65 heading into downtown after an officer clocked him on radar at 79 mph in a 55 mph zone. He was driving the 2004 Cadillac XLT sportscar he bought at police auction last fall with "PAC-MAN" embroidered into the seats.

Police spokesman Don Aaron said Jones also was cited for not having a driver's license with him.

The cornerback was in New York today to meet with Goodell for the second time since April 3. The commissioner needed a week after the first hearing to suspend Jones for the 2007 season for conduct detrimental to the NFL. Jones called that penalty too harsh and appealed to Goodell for leniency.




hahahahhahhaah
Apparently, Thug Life told Goodell that he was placing himself on a midnight curfew. Wonder how he explained that one to the Commish.

[Immortalfire]

Hear that sound? That's the sound of Jones' career in the NFL going down the drain.

[Mee]

Hear that sound? That's the sound of Jones' career in the NFL going down the drain.
He will make a comeback. He will get back in and play for the Titans and prove you wrong. He and Vince Young will win the Super Bowl, and you are a jerk. [/Hooters Pimp]

[Kaleb]

Hear that sound? That's the sound of Jones' career in the NFL going down the drain. I think its been flushed down the drain already, that lost post about him was just a little nugget that refused to be flushed .:o

[ScottyBBadd]

Hear that sound? That's the sound of Jones' career in the NFL going down the drain.

Loud and clear.

[Ben Urich]

hell no.

1. Manny is nasty. Johnson had 7 tds last year.
2. Manny is nice. Johnsons a *****.
3. Manny acts like a stoned teenager. Johnson acts like a 10 year old girl.

Mannys far more likeable.

Manny being Manny is like Chad being Chad. That's what I meant.
Also, Manny's a douchebag. :down

[ScottyBBadd]

Looks like Alan Faneca no longer wants to be a Pittsburg Steeler...

Faneca Upset (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2867828)

Sucks for Pittsburg to lose such a good lineman. Still, I guess there's always the slim hope that some sort of deal can be worked out. But I don't think it's going to happen.

While I am a fan of Mike Tomlin and think he could be a great head coach, he sure is off to a rocky start with some of his veteran guys. :o

Would like to see Alan Faneca as a Cowboy.

[Johnny Blaze]

Williams says he's clean (http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/MIA/10176934)


Meh, I'm not one to vilify a guy for smoking pot, but I still say he's a dumbass for not quiting when he knows he's going to be drug tested. :o

[Johnny Blaze]

If this news is true...holy crap... :eek:

Farve Wants Out? (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6805790)


Can't really say I blame him. The Pack didn't really do to much to get help around him on offense. Still, if this is indeed true and he does get traded, what a way to end a legacy. :csad:

[Mister J]

If that's accurate, it's some pretty heavy ****. I don't see GB trading him regardless of what he says. Him retiring would be more likely. All in all, he's probably just venting. He did seem pretty pissed in that clip talking about how the Moss deal fell through.

[ScottyBBadd]

If this news is true...holy crap... :eek:

Farve Wants Out? (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6805790)


Can't really say I blame him. The Pack didn't really do to much to get help around him on offense. Still, if this is indeed true and he does get traded, what a way to end a legacy. :csad:

If Brett Farve wants out that bad, he should just simply retire.

[Johnny Blaze]

If Brett Farve wants out that bad, he should just simply retire.

I agree. I'm a longtime Bucs fan and I hate the Packers as they were a bitter division rival of ours, but I still wouldn't want to see Farve play for another team.
It would just seem...wrong. Like ****ing your sister wrong. :o

[Ben Urich]

Like Hakeem Olajuwon playing for the Raptors or Patrick Ewing playing for the Magic. :csad:

[Immortalfire]

If Brett Farve wants out that bad, he should just simply retire.

Nah, he still thinks he can win another Super Bowl before he calls it quits :whatever:

[cyborg ninja 14]

Christ, Ricky. :whatever:

Apparently, Thug Life told Goodell that he was placing himself on a midnight curfew. Wonder how he explained that one to the Commish.

I envisioned Pacman providing a well detailed presentation on speeding vs. self imposed curfews. According to Pacman, he was trying to break the land speed record in order to fully maximizing his night life. In the event that Pacman is in a strip club at 11:53am and is many miles away from home, he checks his watch "oh snaps!":wow: He then tears away in his Cadillac and makes it home exactly at 12 am. Of course, he was so enthused by this idea, he forgot all about the curfew that night.

Had Pacman actually done this, the commish would have extended his punishment:woot:

[StorminNorman]

hell no.

1. Manny is nasty. Johnson had 7 tds last year.
2. Manny is nice. Johnsons a *****.
3. Manny acts like a stoned teenager. Johnson acts like a 10 year old girl.

Mannys far more likeable.

1. If anyone doesn't think Chad is one of the best WR's in the NFL - they prove they don't know **** about football :up:
2. Johnson is hilarious and great for the game :up:
3. Johnson acts like an entertainment in...an entertainment industry :eek:

[Mister J]

Seriously, people act like Johnson acts like an ass along the lines of Moss or TO. This guy doesn't throw his teammates under the bus, only seem concerned with himself nor does drag ass during the game. He does end zone dances that seem to go over well with a lot of people, the opposition included. The only time I've really seen him go off is when the team is losing games and he's not being thrown to in the process, which is EXACTLY what any star player worth a damn ought to be doing when the Ls are piling up. The whole leading the AFC in receiving (including the entire league last year) doesn't hurt either. :o

[Johnny Blaze]

Yeah, I definitely wouldn't put Johnson up there with TO or Moss.
He goes to the extremes sometimes with his endzone celebrations, that's about all he has in common with TO.
That and he's a talented receiver, which is about all he has in common with Moss.

Is he arrogant? Sure, but so are most player. Hell, you have to have a degree of arrogance in sports, especially if you want to be great.
Does he put himself ahead of his team? No, he does not. Despite his antics, Johnson is a team player who will not take a play off (Moss), nor does he throw teammates under the bus (TO).
He's not a Marvin Harrison mind you, but he damn sure isn't a TO either. To lump him with them just because of his entertainer's mentality is retarded.

[Cmill216]

Ocho Cinco > Excel

[bored]

Chad also doesn't "take plays off". He gets pissed when he can't give it his all.

And he doesn't ***** about QBs, either. He and Palmer seem pretty close.

[kane9321]

Just heard on " the tony bruno show" There might be some proof that michael vick owns dog a fighting ring in virgina...oh boy! not looking good

They are gathering evidence on him...vick could be in deep trouble

[Fran]

Well, yes, since it is illegal... and there are dogs fighting each other/getting killed POSSIBLY. So that is considered animal cruelty as well.

I just wish these athletes would THINK before making stupid decisions.. they are NEVER above the law.

[LostSon88]

At least the there's one other Vick the family can be proud of...

















Oh wait. :o