2007 NFL Thread

[Badger]

All the sports channels for $1.99 a month for 6 months. Well worth it.

Yeah, I may have had that deal. I think it's $5.00 now, either way it's well worth it. :up:

[TheRunningMan]

AD is a rookie phenom.

yall heard it first, remeber next season that EXCEL told you...adrian peterson is gonna one of the most dissappointing sophmore seaspns ever. hell pick up next year right wheres ending this one - sucking.

ad's performance this lost my opponents week infantasy while maroney saved mine :up: :up:

you take away the big play, petersons done. maroney isnt like that. Take away his 2 200 yard games and here are his numbers:

785 yards on 177 carries for 4.4 yards a carry. Take away the big play, and hes nothing, and teams have figured out that since his 296 yard day.

He will be by far the biggest fantasy bust of next season while Laurence Maroney, Ronnie Brown (if Cameron stays) and Reggie Bush will be people everyone forgets about who will clean up.
it's pretty hard to run the ball whenever there are 9, count em, 9 guys in the box. it also helps whenever you have freakin' tom brady and randy moss running your offense. whenever AD is in they KNOW minnesota's running the football. I watched AD ever since his days at Oklahoma (GO SOONERS!!). His freshman year was amazing becuase nobody really knew about him, and he had heisman trophy winner Jason White at quarterback. his sophmore season and beyond were poor because teams started but 8 or 9 guys in the box, and AD didn't have a passing game to give him a break. maroney is a good back, but he's in the best passing offense in the league, and whenever new england runs a 3-4 reciever spread, chances are they are passing, so the corners and safeties play back a little bit, thus opening up the run. They pass to set up the run. adrian peterson broke the single game rushing record against a team with like 3 pro bowl defenders. AD is 1,305 yards on 227 carries averaging 5.7 ypc, maroney has 789 yards on 166 carries, averaging 4.8 ypc

[Badger]

Not on here for at least 1 month and concerned the Titans were going to screw up their 6-2 start.

Oh I saw the Titans beat the Chiefs. It was excellent to see Young throw 2 tds, Michael Griffin get his first int and the Titans get one last int. Also the sign was funny it said

Wanted A right and left Tackle
General Manager No Experience Needed

I think Edwards might be fired after this season

You were in KC? :up:

Herm isn't going anywhere, this is year two of a major overhaul. He'll get at least two more years, and in my opinion deserves it. King Carl does need to step-down or get fired as the GM, he can stay on as the VP.

As far as the Titans winning that game...

they sould have won by more. :o

[Ghostrider87]

You were in KC? :up:

Herm isn't going anywhere, this is year two of a major overhaul. He'll get at least two more years, and in my opinion deserves it. King Carl does need to step-down or get fired as the GM, he can stay on as the VP.

As far as the Titans winning that game...

they sould have won by more. :o

Yes I was in KC when I saw the Titans beat the Chiefs

It doesn't matter if you think that the fact is they won. There isn't a required rule that says you have to win by more only that you have to have more points than the other team to win which the Titans had. :word:

[Showtime]

Not on here for at least 1 month and concerned the Titans were going to screw up their 6-2 start.


They're limping to the finish line.

[Badger]

Yes I was in KC when I saw the Titans beat the Chiefs

It doesn't matter if you think that the fact is they won. There isn't a required rule that says you have to win by more only that you have to have more points than the other team to win which the Titans had. :word:

Why are you being mean to me. :csad:

Where did you go while in KC?

[Ghostrider87]

Why are you being mean to me. :csad:

Where did you go while in KC?

I didn't go anywhere in KC. My dad and I went on Sunday and then he drove back home when the game was over.

[Jerry!]

They're limping to the finish line.

I don't really buy into the whole importance of finishing strong. Once you get to the playoffs, its an entirely different animal. Clean slate.

[Ghostrider87]

I don't really buy into the whole importance of finishing strong. Once you get to the playoffs, its an entirely different animal. Clean slate.

I agree. Anybody can win in the Playoffs even the lowest seed.

[TheRunningMan]

the 2005 Pittsburgh Steelers proved that

[Dark Donnie]

IMO you shoudn't be speaking because you are still heartbroken over the Redskins cb loss add in the Redskins still can find a way to not make it in the playoffs by failing to win their last game.

Im not even a Redskins fan. The avvy was in memory of Sean Taylor. Eagles:up:

I think the Browns could do more damage in the playoffs then the Titans could, which is why I want them to sneak in. Plus there more fun to watch.

[Jerry!]

I don't know. If the Browns make it one of my worst nightmares has a possibility, an extremely, extremely slim possibility, to come true. Anderson getting injured and Brady Quinn leading the Browns to a Super Bowl victory.

[Dark Donnie]

Yeah, I may have had that deal. I think it's $5.00 now, either way it's well worth it. :up:

Well worth it IMO

[NewYorkSpider]

I think the Browns could do more damage in the playoffs then the Titans could, which is why I want them to sneak in. Plus there more fun to watch.

Both teams have a variety of reasons on who'd do more damage. The Titans play better on the road then the Browns. Also, if the Titans were to cruise through the playoffs and meet the Colts, then the game should come down right to the wire(they always have close games). If the Titans make it in they will most likely have to play the Chargers, a team they took to OT earlier in the month and lost. I'd like to see the Browns make the playoffs, but I think the Titans could do more damage.

[omid17]

http://omg.yahoo.com/best-dressed-celebs-of-07/photos/1115#id=1

[Spider-Fan]

Hey... you get the better draft pick if worst comes to worst... not that the Titans and Browns have the same needs but still... I understand the excitement a passionate fan base may have for their team finally getting to the post season after a long layoff... and sure its good to be happy for being in the dance at the very least... but the Browns aren't even close right now... the AFC probably has the top three teams in the entire NFL right now. By 2010 though... I think the Browns/Titans/Broncos could move into those 1/2 positions in the AFC. I am not sold on Anderson though but I think he can be a franchise QB... though you HAVE to trade him if you can get back into the first round and stockpile draft picks. Or deal Quinn but no one will trade a 1st round pick for him.

I don't care if we are one and done, getting there is enough for me. I want this team to gain the experience of getting there. They will be better in the long run for it. The Browns are not far from being a major threat. If we could sure up the pass rush, and maybe a corner, we are set. Our team is young, and is showing growth every week (especially our defense as of late).

We are close! We need to keep both DA and Quinn for now, though. We have no idea if DA is not a 1 season wonder, and Quinn is not hampering our cap...there is room for both on the team. We don't need to stockpile on draftpicks, cause we are not that far off.

[Excel]

In regards to where he was drafted, he is a huge bust.

Tell me about it :cmad: :cmad:

But hes coming through wen it counts nowe, playing nasty in playoff weeks.

[BlackLantern]

I will be at the giants/pats game this weekend......freezing my arse off

[Excel]

it's pretty hard to run the ball whenever there are 9, count em, 9 guys in the box. it also helps whenever you have freakin' tom brady and randy moss running your offense. whenever AD is in they KNOW minnesota's running the football. I watched AD ever since his days at Oklahoma (GO SOONERS!!). His freshman year was amazing becuase nobody really knew about him, and he had heisman trophy winner Jason White at quarterback. his sophmore season and beyond were poor because teams started but 8 or 9 guys in the box, and AD didn't have a passing game to give him a break. maroney is a good back, but he's in the best passing offense in the league, and whenever new england runs a 3-4 reciever spread, chances are they are passing, so the corners and safeties play back a little bit, thus opening up the run. They pass to set up the run. adrian peterson broke the single game rushing record against a team with like 3 pro bowl defenders. AD is 1,305 yards on 227 carries averaging 5.7 ypc, maroney has 789 yards on 166 carries, averaging 4.8 ypc

And as someone whose seen every one of Maroneys runs this season, I can tell that with the exception of the jets game 2 weeks, they hardly EVER-most times NERVER-run Maroney with 2-3 wide reciever sets. NEVER. 95% of the time its moss at wide out and everybody else on the line and Maroney alone in the backfield. The reason he had such a huge game last week because they did that for one carry (51 yard run) and his 2nd was untouched where the stuffed the box and evans nasty block and maroney hitting the hole like he got shot out of a cannon made it pathetic.

But basically, Maroney is seeing no benifit from that kinda situation you talked about because he doesnt gets carries in it. Faulk usually gets 1 or 2 draws with them in, but thats it.

[Dark Donnie]

Tell me about it :cmad: :cmad:

But hes coming through wen it counts nowe, playing nasty in playoff weeks.

I'll agree with you there, his better games have come of late

[kane9321]

i'm so happy the pats-giants game will be on regular tv..friggin nfl network

[BlackLantern]

its not the NFL networks fault......the NFL wants cable companies to offer the channel on their basic service and the cable companies who initially did that then made it part of their sports package which costs extra.....so blame the cable companies....

[Jerry!]

Why does anyone still have cable is the question that bothers me.

[GuardianofOa]

First time poster here, so here goes:

Miami should have taken a full year of defeats; Great draft picks.

The media and sportscasters need to stop sucking off Brady. it's annoying. it's not like he's the greatest QB ever, nor will he be. He has a great O line that helps him out. I'm sure if he was on a different team, he wouldn't be talked about as much.

As for those Bears: They should've never let Tank go, big mistake. Briggs is out, so that's no good either. Finally Urlacher has come out this year and done something good. Stop putting Hester in as a running back, leave in Peterson, but put Wolfe in for the whole game! Ridiculous. I've said for 3 years now to put Orton in, and not Rex. Bah! They should've never got rid of Cade McNown all those years ago.

Detroit needs to keep doing what they're doing. They've been playing exceptionally well this year, and I am glad for that. Their lines are amazing, they just need some kind of inspiration. Some push that could make them great.

And I am sick of Joe Buck and Gumble.

[Jerry!]

First time poster here, so here goes:

Miami should have taken a full year of defeats; Great draft picks.

The media and sportscasters need to stop sucking off Brady. it's annoying. it's not like he's the greatest QB ever, nor will he be. He has a great O line that helps him out. I'm sure if he was on a different team, he wouldn't be talked about as much.

As for those Bears: They should've never let Tank go, big mistake. Briggs is out, so that's no good either. Finally Urlacher has come out this year and done something good. Stop putting Hester in as a running back, leave in Peterson, but put Wolfe in for the whole game! Ridiculous. I've said for 3 years now to put Orton in, and not Rex. Bah! They should've never got rid of Cade McNown all those years ago.

Detroit needs to keep doing what they're doing. They've been playing exceptionally well this year, and I am glad for that. Their lines are amazing, they just need some kind of inspiration. Some push that could make them great.

And I am sick of Joe Buck and Gumble.

Holy dog ****. I think the only part of this post I agree with is the very last sentence. Cade McNown? Seriously? There is so much wrong in this post it's mind boggling. Just about every single sentence. I don't know even where to start.

[Cmill216]

The media and sportscasters need to stop sucking off Brady. it's annoying. it's not like he's the greatest QB ever, nor will he be.

:sleepy:

3 Super Bowl victories
2 Super Bowl MVPs
Soon to break the single season passing TD record
Soon to be the league MVP
On his way to a possible 4th Super Bowl Victory

[Jerry!]

I'm just going to go on the assumption that his post was a joke of some kind. Cade McNown? Cade McNown??

[FaT_tONle]

If you want it that badly for one game, pay the few more dollars for it and stop *****ing or get satellite. People who have cable should have learned by now, I know I did. And yeah it is a national story. In sports anyway. Its potentially historic in a lot of ways. You don't think people will be watching that?

Well no one has comcast up here... its still a major problem for the NY market... you should have learned by now that comcast isn't the primary provider for every cable household.

[Jerry!]

Get anything but cable.

[GuardianofOa]

If they had given McNown the chance, and not throw him away just for him to get put on the bench in Miami. I think he had a helluva lot of potential.

So, you all disagree that everyone, including all of our mothers are sucking off Brady?

Who cares about the highlights, it takes more than one person to complete a catch.

Like last year's SB. Peyton Manning the SB MVP!? Riiiiiiight. He didn't do squat that game.

[FaT_tONle]

I don't really buy into the whole importance of finishing strong. Once you get to the playoffs, its an entirely different animal. Clean slate.

Not really... the 05 Steelers were in playoff mode from week 15 on... they had to win out to get in pretty much. And they were 11-5 as a sixth seed... that's good enough for homefield in the NFC in most years... so the Steelers had momentum. Teams that limp in at 9-7 pr 8-8 NEVER make it to a championship game

The team that comes to mind is last year's Colts... who were God awful defensively in the regular season... but people forget that that was a veteran ball club that had been there and really never tried until January. The Colts and Pats are really the only two teams that can turn on that switch and kick it into the next gear whenever they need to. Everyone else needs momentum going in.

[Dark Donnie]

Reggie Bush is quickly going the way of Rashaan Salaam.
The hype that has surrounded the former Heisman winner has been highly contagious. But those who've bought in have netted painful results. Honestly, my feelings about Bush are not entirely new. His abysmal '07 reinforced what I've been saying for the past two seasons: Bush is the most overvalued back in standard drafts. Yes, he's worth a significant sum in points-per-reception leagues, but without a complimentary power back to alleviate pressure, he's completely containable. Bush is a tap dancer who needs space to showcase his uber-athletic skills. Without it, he's nothing more than a glorified Kevin Faulk. He'll continue to be an excellent source of total yardage, but double-digit touchdowns aren't in his future. He's more late-second than late-first round material even if Deuce McAllister returns with a vengeance.

:boba:

[Jerry!]

Well the Titans have to win to get in, so they have to pretty much be in playoff mode as well. Once you get in the playoffs, anything can happen. Am I going to bet on the Titans? No way, but I am not going to disregard them. It's just one game. You have to play better than the other team for one game, it doesn't matter if they could beat you 9 out 10 times or are more talented in every aspect of the game. Every team is dangerous in the playoffs, doesn't matter what their record was.

[cyborg ninja 14]

I'll enjoy watching the Titans losing to Jim Sorgi and Kenton Keith.

[BlackLantern]

I have comcast here in CT...when the nfl network was first introduced it was part of the digital basic package....then last summer they put it with the sports package with the Fox Sports channels, nhl and nba tv, and some other sports channels....i pay an extra 5.00 for the sports package here

[Advanced Dark]

Titans are no push over. They had a streak of 3 losses when they lost Hayneworth, Chris Henry, and a couple other players. With Haynesworth in the lineup they are as tough as anyone in the league because the opposing offense has to double or triple team Haynesworth...but then have to worry about Vandenbosch. He he. The Titans lost 20-22 to the colts this year and split the games last year only losing by 1pt in their loss to the Colts last year. All of those games had the Colts starters in them. Fisher will have the Titans ready and you know they'll give Vince Young some more freedom to run if need be because this is essentially a playoff game. It is in Indy but so what. Last time we played there like I said it was only a 1pt game. I think the Titans will be winning before Indy even pulls it's starters and they'll be hitting the Addai and Petyon enough times to probably make them sit even sooner. When Sorgi comes in he's sacked so many times it'll be funny. I also expect at least one score on defense.

Titans 31 Colts 13 Yeah I said it.

Comments from today's Titans practice from Fisher:


(on his thoughts playing the last regular season in Indianapolis’ RCA Dome)
There have been some great matchups there. Unfortunately, recently we haven’t had as much success as we would have liked. It’s a hard place to play, but I’m quite confident that the new place will be equally as hard to play.
(on if fans have a false sense of security knowing that Indianapolis might rest their starters)
I don’t think there’s any security associated with this game at all. We have to go up there and play four solid quarters of football, regardless of who plays. They proved last week that they can make changes in their roster and still put points on the board and keep points off the board (defensively). We’re not consumed with what’s going on, who’s playing, how much they’re playing, who’s active and who’s not, who’s going to sub. We have to just go up there and play. And it’s a tough place to play. They’ve got excellent depth in all areas. This thing will require four quarters of very tough football for us to get a win.
(on the strengths of Colts backup QB Jim Sorgi)
He runs the offense and he’s watched Peyton Manning. He’s going to do the same things that Peyton does, the same concepts, the same checks, all those kinds of things, which makes it difficult. You can’t just sit there and defend the run when he’s in there because he can beat you throwing. Then you sit back and play pass defense and they’re going to hurt you with the run game. Even though he hasn’t had a lot of experience playing, he can run their offense.
(on whether a good, strong start to the game could have a big impact for the Titans)
We have to keep their scoring down. To me, that’s probably the most important part of the early game. Then we just have to keep playing. It’s no different. We’re not going to approach it any differently. You don’t approach this game differently, regardless of who’s playing.

[Advanced Dark]

There's a difference in kissing ass and giving someone praise for a phenomenol season. Tom Brady and the Patriots deserve every ounce of praise they get. I can understand the competition wanting them to be knocked off but c'mon. Brady can't be labeled as the best QB ever...but mabye he will when his career is over. He's sure heading that way and he's still got alot of games left to play.

[Jerry!]

I think if they go 19-0 it's pretty much a sure thing for Brady.

[Advanced Dark]

If they go 19-0 (as they should) he deserves to be named up there with Terry Bradshaw, Montana, Elway, Favre, etc...

If you had a choice and you were the coach what would you do here:

1) Play the final game as if it was a must win playoff game to secure a 16-0 record and risk injuring your players for a playoff run.

2) Rest your players and risk losing the one in a million chance to be 16-0 however raise your hopes for the Superbowl.

If it was me I'd rather have the 16-0 season. Brady and company already have 3 superbowl rings and honestly I think it's worth the risk. They're probably still gonna be in the Superbowl injuries or not unless BRady is severly injured. Even if he was the rest of the team and the back ups could probably still carry them in. How many people have had a shot at a 16-0 season. It'll be remembered much longer than the Superbowl win in history even if they lose the 1st playoff game. Nobody can take that perfect season away.

[BlackLantern]

both coughlin and belichick will see how the game plays out....I think everyone will start and if the game stays competitve...the atmosphere will become more tense and it will start to feel like a must win for both teams

[Jerry!]

I think a perfect season loses a lot of its luster if you exit in the first round of the playoffs. Or any round really.

[BlackLantern]

^^^agreed....go 16-0 and then some afc wild card team bumps you out.....it would hurt something fierce

[Dark Donnie]

The Giants are all going to play as long as the game is competitive.

[FaT_tONle]

Simple equation for Coughlin and the GIants... two possession game... N.E with the ball... late third = Game over and rest. I could still see most of the regulars in there if its 10 or 11 points... but more than that is risky IMO. Patriots will play until the win is secured and the records are locked up.

I am also hearing the Cowboys will be playing this like a preseason game... I want Romo in there all the way... throw him in the fire... but it probably isn't worth it... so unless the Skins choke here... they'll be in Seattle next week.

Titans aren't winning by 20... if they win it will be a last minute drive/stop... the game will go down to the wire... they are not a "put you away for good" football team... 10 points against the Jets??? Cmon...

[Dr. Evil]

Do they (The NFL) not realize that Gumbel sucks? I guess they will realize it when Gumbel messes up the following names (the ones in parenthesis are probably what he would say):

- Tom Brady (Tim Brady, Brady Quinn, Brady Anderson, Greg Brady)
- Randy Moss (Santana Moss, Sinorice Moss)
- Wes Welker (Wes Walker)
- Donte Stallworth (John Stallworth)
- Rodney Harrison (Robert Harrison)
- Asante Samuel (Asante Samuels, Ashanti Samuel, Ashanti Samuels)
- Richard Seymour (Rob Seymour)
- The New England Patriots (New England Revolution of MLS)
- Eli Manning (Peyton Manning, Archie Manning, Cooper Manning)
- Brandon Jacobs (Brandon Johnson)
- Amani Toomer (Armani Toomer)
- Michael Strahan (Michael Strachan)
- Jeremy Shockley (on the sidelines- Jeremy Shockey, Jerome Shockley)
- New York Giants (San Francisco Giants, New York Jets)

He better be gone next season or we will hear more of this:

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[cyborg ninja 14]

What about Tom Coughlin (Tom Copeland, Tim Coughlin,) or Bill Belichick (Bob Belichick)?

[Advanced Dark]

Titans Practice/Injury Update:

(Also for the Colts Marvin Harrison returned to practice but will he play?)

DT Haynesworth practices for first time since Nov. 30
Associated Press


NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Tennessee defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth took part in his first full practice since Nov. 30 on Thursday, and he couldn't have been happier.

"I've still got to knock some of this rust off. Playing helps, but I want to get back to playing the good technique where I was at before I left," Haynesworth said.

He originally strained his right hamstring Nov. 4 against Carolina late in a game where he had a career-high three sacks. He missed three games -- all Titans' losses -- and has started three of the last four in earning his first Pro Bowl trip.

Haynesworth said he would practice on Friday, working on his technique using his hands and his get-off at the line of scrimmage.

"Hopefully by Sunday, I can be close to where I was before I left the field," Haynesworth said.

Center Kevin Mawae, who sat out last week's 10-6 win over the New York Jets with an injured left calf, missed another practice and was not on the field during the session.

Defensive end Antwan Odom (ankle), cornerback Nick Harper (groin) and linebacker Gilbert Gardner (calf) also did not practice.

But right guard Benji Olson, linebacker David Thornton (left knee) and running back LenDale White (knee) practiced after sitting out Wednesday.

[Mister J]

Do they (The NFL) not realize that Gumbel sucks? I guess they will realize it when Gumbel messes up the following names (the ones in parenthesis are probably what he would say):

- Tom Brady (Tim Brady, Brady Quinn, Brady Anderson, Greg Brady)
- Randy Moss (Santana Moss, Sinorice Moss)
- Wes Welker (Wes Walker)
- Donte Stallworth (John Stallworth)
- Rodney Harrison (Robert Harrison)
- Asante Samuel (Asante Samuels, Ashanti Samuel, Ashanti Samuels)
- Richard Seymour (Rob Seymour)
- The New England Patriots (New England Revolution of MLS)
- Eli Manning (Peyton Manning, Archie Manning, Cooper Manning)
- Brandon Jacobs (Brandon Johnson)
- Amani Toomer (Armani Toomer)
- Michael Strahan (Michael Strachan)
- Jeremy Shockley (on the sidelines- Jeremy Shockey, Jerome Shockley)
- New York Giants (San Francisco Giants, New York Jets)

He better be gone next season or we will hear more of this:

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Who the **** is Rick Romo? :confused:

Some of the gaffs he has, I can at least imagine how he flummoxed the name (similar to another player or notable person), ...but Rick Romo? Come on. On top of screwing up names, he's not that good at analysis and his voice is kinda whiny.

Now he'll be on the huge simulcast for even more exposure on Saturday. Yippee. :dry:

[Excel]

HWow, thats embarassing? How the hell did he get Rick from Tony? Packer offense...dude must have a few too many drinks or get lit before every game because thats pretty damn bad :up:

[dr venture]

Do they (The NFL) not realize that Gumbel sucks? I guess they will realize it when Gumbel messes up the following names (the ones in parenthesis are probably what he would say):

- Tom Brady (Tim Brady, Brady Quinn, Brady Anderson, Greg Brady)
- Randy Moss (Santana Moss, Sinorice Moss)
- Wes Welker (Wes Walker)
- Donte Stallworth (John Stallworth)
- Rodney Harrison (Robert Harrison)
- Asante Samuel (Asante Samuels, Ashanti Samuel, Ashanti Samuels)
- Richard Seymour (Rob Seymour)
- The New England Patriots (New England Revolution of MLS)
- Eli Manning (Peyton Manning, Archie Manning, Cooper Manning)
- Brandon Jacobs (Brandon Johnson)
- Amani Toomer (Armani Toomer)
- Michael Strahan (Michael Strachan)
- Jeremy Shockley (on the sidelines- Jeremy Shockey, Jerome Shockley)
- New York Giants (San Francisco Giants, New York Jets)

He better be gone next season or we will hear more of this:

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lol at Rick Romo and the Packer offense being set up nicely after Dallas returned the kick

[Dark Donnie]

Dolphins Offense-TM-Dolphins Dec. 28 - 10:41 am et

Bill Parcells is expected to try to trade the Dolphins' No. 1 pick.

Parcells is looking to gain multiple early picks, and also wants to avoid paying a high contract to a player who could very likely be a bust. The Dolphins already have four picks in the first two rounds of the draft, but likely will try to add more as they overhaul their 1-14 team.

Also the Raiders might fire Rob Ryan winthin the week.

[Cmill216]

That's pretty smart on Bill's part.

[Mister J]

Good move by Big Tuna. There are too many areas that need addressing to keep the #1 overall. Trade down and stockpile more picks.

[jaguarr]

Also the Raiders might fire Rob Ryan winthin the week.

Rob Ryan isn't the Raiders' problem, Al Davis is the Raiders' problem. Until he dies they will be plagued with issues because the guy won't let his coaches do their damn jobs or recruit how they would like. He never has. That's why Madden got fed up and left way back when. It's all on Al. I love the Raiders but man do I hate that guy. Talk about getting in the way of your own success.

jag

[Immortalfire]

I heard on the radio a NYG fan saying "Tha Patriots ah not coming to Joysey and win this week, you people from Bahston are going home losahs."


I guess he saw the watch commercial

http://www.globalgiants.com/archives/fotos2/CITIZEN-WATCH-AD-0507.jpg

[Dark Donnie]

Falcons Offense-TM-Falcons Dec. 28 - 12:00 pm et

A league source tells Profootballtalk.com that the Falcons are throwing around the idea of pursuing Mike Shanahan to be their next head coach.

Shanahan would reportedly also take over as Atlanta's GM to run the entire operation. Profootballtalk says Broncos owner Pat Bowlen may be willing to let Shanahan walk after the team's disappointing 2007 season. Chiefs VP of player personnel Bill Kuharich could be another candidate for the GM post.
Source: Profootballtalk.com
Related: Broncos, Chiefs

[Dark Donnie]

Rob Ryan isn't the Raiders' problem, Al Davis is the Raiders' problem. Until he dies they will be plagued with issues because the guy won't let his coaches do their damn jobs or recruit how they would like. He never has. That's why Madden got fed up and left way back when. It's all on Al. I love the Raiders but man do I hate that guy. Talk about getting in the way of your own success.

jag

I agree....There defense was awesome last year. Hardly the problem

[Immortalfire]

Falcons Offense-TM-Falcons Dec. 28 - 12:00 pm et

A league source tells Profootballtalk.com that the Falcons are throwing around the idea of pursuing Mike Shanahan to be their next head coach.

Shanahan would reportedly also take over as Atlanta's GM to run the entire operation. Profootballtalk says Broncos owner Pat Bowlen may be willing to let Shanahan walk after the team's disappointing 2007 season. Chiefs VP of player personnel Bill Kuharich could be another candidate for the GM post.
Source: Profootballtalk.com
Related: Broncos, Chiefs

Hmm. I hear we're talking to Mike Singletary too.

[Buford The Sly]

That's pretty smart on Bill's part.
Yea so he can spend it on picks like Bobby Carpenter and trade down to get players like Julius Jones instead of picking up Steven Jackson. Careful of that guy while he'll have some hits (Witten, Barber)...his misses can be pretty bad too. If I were the Dolphins I would get a quarterback first and foremost.
And I don't credit Parcells for Romo. That was all Sean Payton.

[rdh007]

Is it written that all Denver coaches go to Atlanta after they're done there?

[Darthphere]

Yea so he can spend it on picks like Bobby Carpenter and trade down to get players like Julius Jones instead of picking up Steven Jackson. Careful of that guy while he'll have some hits (Witten, Barber)...his misses can be pretty bad too. If I were the Dolphins I would get a quarterback first and foremost.
And I don't credit Parcells for Romo. That was all Sean Payton.

Why would we draft a quarterback after getting Beck?:huh:

Beck might not be the best QB ever, but he needs to be given a better shot

[KALEL114]

Dolphins Offense-TM-Dolphins Dec. 28 - 10:41 am et

Bill Parcells is expected to try to trade the Dolphins' No. 1 pick.

Parcells is looking to gain multiple early picks, and also wants to avoid paying a high contract to a player who could very likely be a bust. The Dolphins already have four picks in the first two rounds of the draft, but likely will try to add more as they overhaul their 1-14 team.

I wonder if he is going to give Jerry a call since we have two first round picks this year.

[Ghostrider87]

Who is favored in the Titans Colts game?

[KALEL114]

Titans. I have seen it from 6-7 points in different places.

[Ghostrider87]

Rob Ryan isn't the Raiders' problem, Al Davis is the Raiders' problem. Until he dies they will be plagued with issues because the guy won't let his coaches do their damn jobs or recruit how they would like. He never has. That's why Madden got fed up and left way back when. It's all on Al. I love the Raiders but man do I hate that guy. Talk about getting in the way of your own success.

jag

I think the added problem is since losing to the Bucs in the Super Bowl they have yet to have a winning season. I guess the Bucs passed on their terrible losing ways to the Raiders. Add in it's funny the Raiders fan using a sign in the AFC Championship game calling the Titans Titanic when really it's the Raiders that have been down from the Super Bowl and for 5 straight seasons. I say the Raiders have become the new Bucs.

[Ghostrider87]

Titans. I have seen it from 6-7 points in different places.

I still think that the Colts starters will be playing for 4 quarters and put their back ups in at 5 minutes or less left in the game.

[Dark Donnie]

I still think that the Colts starters will be playing for 4 quarters and put their back ups in at 5 minutes or less left in the game.


Peyton Manning-QB- Colts Dec. 28 - 9:33 am et

Peyton Manning threw just two passes in the final games of both 2004 and 2005, when the Colts' seed was already established.

Manning played almost an entire game last season because the Colts still had something to play for, and that worked out well. In 2005, many critics argued that by sitting out almost all of the last game of the season, the Colts starters were rusty after a first-round bye, thus the reason for their loss to the Steelers. Still, don't expect Colts starts to play more than a quarter, if that.


:dew:

[Memphis Slim]

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Colts wide receiver Marvin Harrison (http://fantasyfootball.usatoday.com/content/player.asp?sport=NFL&id=1502), who has missed most of the season with a bad left knee, went through a second day of practice Friday and will start in Sunday night's regular season finale against Tennessee.
Harrison, who has not played since Oct. 22 at Jacksonville, went through a full workout Thursday and was able to take part in Friday's practice with no apparent problems.
Coach Tony Dungy said before Friday's workout that if Harrison does play, it would be limited. He would not commit to a number of plays for the eight-time Pro Bowler.
"But he'll start the game and we'll see how it goes," he said.
Dungy said earlier this week if Harrison played, he might keep quarterback Peyton Manning (http://fantasyfootball.usatoday.com/content/player.asp?sport=NFL&id=1493) in the game longer to work on their timing.

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[KALEL114]

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Colts wide receiver Marvin Harrison (http://fantasyfootball.usatoday.com/content/player.asp?sport=NFL&id=1502), who has missed most of the season with a bad left knee, went through a second day of practice Friday and will start in Sunday night's regular season finale against Tennessee.
Harrison, who has not played since Oct. 22 at Jacksonville, went through a full workout Thursday and was able to take part in Friday's practice with no apparent problems.
Coach Tony Dungy said before Friday's workout that if Harrison does play, it would be limited. He would not commit to a number of plays for the eight-time Pro Bowler.
"But he'll start the game and we'll see how it goes," he said.
Dungy said earlier this week if Harrison played, he might keep quarterback Peyton Manning (http://fantasyfootball.usatoday.com/content/player.asp?sport=NFL&id=1493) in the game longer to work on their timing.

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I think some thing similar will happen for us, with Terry Glenn coming back. I think Romo will be playing longer to get timing down.

[FaT_tONle]

That's pretty smart on Bill's part.

And who in their right mind is gonna make that move... if I am the Jets or Rams I am not moving up... McFadden isn't worth your first and second and possibly a fourth/fifth round pick... And if I am not in the top five I am not moving up cause it will probably cost me a pick next year. I don't know if you root for the Dolphins on the side when they aren't playing the Bucs... but most teams would trade that pick... if they could... but unless the Dolphins are realistic no one is making that deal... now the draft is months away and who knows who will make an impression by then. Worst comes to worst, they can still take the kid from Virginia and they'll be fine. And trade Taylor for a third or fourth rounder.

[KALEL114]

Sources: Sanders signs for five years, $37.5 million

Colts safety Bob Sanders has signed a five-year, $37.5 million contract with Indianapolis that includes $20 million in guaranteed money, according to NFL sources.

The contract makes Sanders, 26, the highest-paid safety in the NFL.

The Pro Bowl selection, whose playoff performance sparked the Colts on their run to a Super Bowl victory last season, would have been an unrestricted free agent after this season. Sanders is a strong contender for this year's NFL Defensive Player of the Year honors.



The Colts have doled out record contracts before to other top players. Before the start of training camp, Dwight Freeney signed a $72 million, six-year deal, making him the league's highest-paid defensive end. The contract included a $30 million signing bonus.

After the 2003 season, quarterback Peyton Manning agreed to what was then a record $99.2 million, seven-year contract that contained a still-record $34.5 million signing bonus.

Sanders' signing is significant because Colts tight end Dallas Clark, who is having a career year, is a unrestricted free agent after this season. Getting Sanders signed now means that if Indianapolis can't reach agreement with Clark on a new deal, they'll have the option of using the franchise tag to retain him for 2008.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3171368

[FaT_tONle]

I wonder if he is going to give Jerry a call since we have two first round picks this year.

WHy would he bother? Cowboys need those two picks... corner and wide receiver... and their isn't and impact player at either of those positions in the top five (as of now) that would make Jerry do that deal.

[Advanced Dark]

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Colts wide receiver Marvin Harrison (http://fantasyfootball.usatoday.com/content/player.asp?sport=NFL&id=1502), who has missed most of the season with a bad left knee, went through a second day of practice Friday and will start in Sunday night's regular season finale against Tennessee.
Harrison, who has not played since Oct. 22 at Jacksonville, went through a full workout Thursday and was able to take part in Friday's practice with no apparent problems.
Coach Tony Dungy said before Friday's workout that if Harrison does play, it would be limited. He would not commit to a number of plays for the eight-time Pro Bowler.
"But he'll start the game and we'll see how it goes," he said.
Dungy said earlier this week if Harrison played, he might keep quarterback Peyton Manning (http://fantasyfootball.usatoday.com/content/player.asp?sport=NFL&id=1493) in the game longer to work on their timing.

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Good we'll have to beat up the old man during recovery. He he. Goodbye Marvin.

[Excel]

with the way wayne n gonzalez have been...do you really want him starting over them?

[Memphis Slim]

with the way wayne n gonzalez have been...do you really want him starting over them?


Wayne plays one side , Marvin the other.......Gonzo is in the slot.

[bored]

Wayne plays one side , Marvin the other.......Gonzo is in the slot.

Okay, I can accept that he could be "Tony Gonzalez" if he wanted, but he doesn't, he goes by "Anthony", so it's okay. But you do NOT, under ANY circumstances, steal the nickname "Gonzo" from the real thing.

http://www.umich.edu/~ac213/student_projects05/ls/gonzalez.jpg

:word:

[Memphis Slim]

Okay, I can accept that he could be "Tony Gonzalez" if he wanted, but he doesn't, he goes by "Anthony", so it's okay. But you do NOT, under ANY circumstances, steal the nickname "Gonzo" from the real thing.

http://www.umich.edu/~ac213/student_projects05/ls/gonzalez.jpg

:word:

Out with the old...in with the new.

[bored]

The real Gonzo ain't playing like anything old.

[Erundur]

The Vikes must lose to the Bronco's and the Bears must defeat the Saints if the skins lose to the cowboys. Finally the Saunders system is starting to click.

[Jerry!]

Another opportunity to crush the city of New Orleans' spirits. Hopefully the Bears are up to task.

[Advanced Dark]

Interesting note. The last 3 Colts/Titans games have been decided by a combined total of 6pts.

[Fran]

Go Colts!

I want the Browns in the playoffs.

No offense AD, just don't want 3 AFC South teams in :down

[TheRunningMan]

why should the colts even bother goign to the playoffs when all they do is choke?

[kane9321]

Do they (The NFL) not realize that Gumbel sucks? I guess they will realize it when Gumbel messes up the following names (the ones in parenthesis are probably what he would say):

- Tom Brady (Tim Brady, Brady Quinn, Brady Anderson, Greg Brady)
- Randy Moss (Santana Moss, Sinorice Moss)
- Wes Welker (Wes Walker)
- Donte Stallworth (John Stallworth)
- Rodney Harrison (Robert Harrison)
- Asante Samuel (Asante Samuels, Ashanti Samuel, Ashanti Samuels)
- Richard Seymour (Rob Seymour)
- The New England Patriots (New England Revolution of MLS)
- Eli Manning (Peyton Manning, Archie Manning, Cooper Manning)
- Brandon Jacobs (Brandon Johnson)
- Amani Toomer (Armani Toomer)
- Michael Strahan (Michael Strachan)
- Jeremy Shockley (on the sidelines- Jeremy Shockey, Jerome Shockley)
- New York Giants (San Francisco Giants, New York Jets)

He better be gone next season or we will hear more of this:

gXEvticm15c

7KB6f9sXyIw&feature=related

dont forget frank gore (al gore)

[Immortalfire]

why should the colts even bother goign to the playoffs when all they do is choke?

Last season says different. *pic of Manning with trophy* [/Slim]

[bored]

why should the colts even bother goign to the playoffs when all they do is choke?

You mean choke other teams, like they did last year?

[FaT_tONle]

Another opportunity to crush the city of New Orleans' spirits. Hopefully the Bears are up to task.

Oh please man... Saints were pretty much eliminated last week... stop trying to get yourself fired up for that team... it will save you from misery down the road. Man... '85 seems like ages ago doesn't it.

[BlackLantern]

why should the colts even bother goign to the playoffs when all they do is choke?

so what was that last year when the Colts won the super bowl??? I dont think that was choking....

[Kelly]

Last season says different. *pic of Manning with trophy* [/Slim]

so what was that last year when the Colts won the super bowl??? I dont think that was choking....


Fire stole your thunder...lol

[BlackLantern]

Fire stole your thunder...lol

NBD...I'm stressing this game tonight....I dont want my team to be the 16 in 16-0....no one will care about the 9 10 or 13 team....people will remember the 16th though

[cyborg ninja 14]

No offense AD, just don't want 3 AFC South teams in :down

Although that would be a rare occurance, which I think is cool.

[Kelly]

NBD...I'm stressing this game tonight....I dont want my team to be the 16 in 16-0....no one will care about the 9 10 or 13 team....people will remember the 16th though

Well....its one of those nights BL....

The Giants should NOT play their "First String" the entire game.......their season hinges on next week, not this week.

The Patriots HAVE TO play their "First String" because they are off next week, and they need those reps in a real game to stay hot.

So, honestly.......I think the game is more about strategy for the playoffs rather than 16-0.......:csad:

[BlackLantern]

and Tampa Bay is a good team....i was a fan of Garcia in his SF days and when he went to TB i told people watch out for the Bucs.......the giants finished 8-8 last year and lots of people this year had them at less than that and not even making the post season......so I take things week to week

[Jerry!]

Oh please man... Saints were pretty much eliminated last week... stop trying to get yourself fired up for that team... it will save you from misery down the road. Man... '85 seems like ages ago doesn't it.

I'm not fooling myself. I know the Bears won't be doing contending for anything for at least a few years probably. But it isn't going to stop my rooting for them to win. This has nothing to do with 85', not sure where you got that from.

[Dr. Evil]

I can picture this scenario:

Tom Brady to Randy Moss TD Pass:

Bryant Gumbel: Tim Brady drops back to throw. He fires the ball down the field to Santana Moss! Touchdown New England! Sinorice Moss catches the TD Pass from Tom Brady.

Brady to Welker TD Pass:

Gumbel: Brady drops back and throws, Touchdown to Wes Walker!

Brady to Stallworth:

Gumbel: Brady drops back, touchdown to John Stallworth.

Eli Manning to Amani Toomer:

Gumbel: Cooper Manning throws a beautiful TD pass to Armani Toomer

[Mister J]

I'm hoping Gumbel slips up and says 'Greg Brady' myself.

[Jerry!]

Not sure what is funnier, the idea of Eli Manning throwing a "beautiful" TD pass to Toomer or Gumbel's mispronunciation of names.

[Kelly]

I'm not fooling myself. I know the Bears won't be doing contending for anything for at least a few years probably. But it isn't going to stop my rooting for them to win. This has nothing to do with 85', not sure where you got that from.


It's about being a fan, and thats cool..........

[NewYorkSpider]

That was one of the worst National Anthems I've ever heard.

[Byrd Man]

That was one of the worst National Anthems I've ever heard.

Yep. So far, I'm not regreting that I don't have the NFL Network.

[NewYorkSpider]

This is the first game I've watched on NFL network. It might be going on mute in a minute.

[Kelly]

Is it on the radio anywhere??????

My grand dad use to turn down the TV watch and listen to the radio....

[Mister J]

Is that seriously worth a challenge? It'd only be 2nd and 10 at like, the 20. WTF Coughlin? :confused:

[Mister J]

Is it on the radio anywhere??????

My grand dad use to turn down the TV watch and listen to the radio....
What is this 'radio' you speak of? :huh:

[Kelly]

What is this 'radio' you speak of? :huh:



lol.....ya know......that thing you turn on....it has alot of numbers....there are sports stations................that actually carry these games.:wow: And the commentating is 100% better than on TV....

[Kelly]

Well I'll be damned.....Giants just made a TD

[Bond]

w00t

[NewYorkSpider]

This looks like it's going to be an exciting game.

[Jerry!]

Wow back and forth.

[BlackLantern]

Gumbel hasnt cocked up anyones name yet

[NewYorkSpider]

Untill the Patriots are up by 14, this game isn't over.

[BlackLantern]

run Hixon run......and the Giants got him when Denver cut him....

[KALEL114]

That was a dirty move by Wilfork.

[Kelly]

He'll get blasted for it.....$$$$$$$$ wise....

[KALEL114]

Now the big question. Who will we see in the second half? On both sides.

[TheRunningMan]

so what was that last year when the Colts won the super bowl??? I dont think that was choking....
yeah it's about time they win one. it's pathetic that, with the team they have, they've only won ONE super bowl. they have a pro bowl quarterback, 2 pro bowl recievers, a pro bowl defensive end, 2 or 3 pro bowl offensive lineman, a pro bowl running back, a pro bowl safety, and yet they've still only won a ingle super bowl in the past few years

[BlackLantern]

the Giants will have everyone playing.....dont know about Darth Sweatshirt and his guys

[KALEL114]

Darth Sweatshirt. LOL!

[Jerry!]

Man, Maroney ain't got **** so far.

[Fran]

why should the colts even bother goign to the playoffs when all they do is choke?

:dry:

Dumbest statement of the day :up:

[Fran]

Damn good game so far. Very impressed by what the G-Men have done :up:

[BlackLantern]

they do look good.....its been a damn good game so far

[KALEL114]

:dry:

Dumbest statement of the day :up:
I have a feeling he will have plenty more in the new year. Psycho Symbiote is going to have some competition. I kid , I kid.

[Fran]

Go Giants!!!

Touchdown Plaxico! MSU represent!

[BlackLantern]

I have an addition to my sig ready if this game goes like I hope

[Fran]

Is this the most the Pats have been down all year? I know they were down 10 to the Colts.

[BlackLantern]

I believe so....but I will watch cautiously.....I dont want to jinx anything

[Fran]

Love to see Plaxico play. Loved him during his Spartan days.

Been thinking of getting a jersey :up:

[BlackLantern]

the Giants D is smothering them.....I hope they get at least one good lick on Brady tonight

[Fran]

Me too :yellow:

[Jerry!]

They've gotten more than one already.

[BlackLantern]

I'm talking a bone jarring blind side make you crap yourself hit.....he has been knocked down a few times but thats about it

[Fran]

"I think he s*** himself"

[Rain Dog]

Let's Go G-men!

[LegendaryCaleb]

all i ask for is Patriots to lose...please God...I Beg...(so far so good)

http://canadianpress.google.com/media/ALeqM5hLghcz8KJaDgJeDSor6ek3bldgAg?size=s
:yay:

[Matt]

Ok, the Giants are playing their starters, when there is absolutely no benefit to it (they are fifth seed, if I'm not mistaken they cannot move up or down). So, I wonder if when Cellslim gets off of probation if he will criticize Tom Coughlin for trying to be a spoiler and risking his players health, etc?

[Fran]

edit - :rolleyes:

[Matt]

When it becomes any of Fran's business why people are probated I will be sure to tell him. :yay:

[Fran]

Wow... Moss dropped a wide open, although a little behind him, pass.

[Jerry!]

Wow Moss was the goat one second and a hero the next. Mercy. Records broken.

[Matt]

There goes Manning's record.

[Fran]

Congratulations to Tom Brady, the record holder for the most passing TDs in a season.

Also, did Moss just break Rice's single-season TD record, or does he need one more?

[Jerry!]

Damn what a turnaround.

[Matt]

He broke it.

[Tangled Web]

Damn.

[Fran]

Congrats to Randy Moss, most TD receptions in a season.

Amazing.

[Matt]

Brady is taking off his pads. Is he done for the night? :huh:

[Jerry!]

What the **** call is that? I don't think he is done, just readjusting something it looks like.

[Fran]

Am I not seeing something there?

[Jerry!]

INT Hobbs.

[Matt]

Typical Eli, falls apart when things don't go his way. Hell, a typical Manning.

[Addendum]

This is a damn good game

[Fran]

Man, it feels like watching the Champs Sports Bowl game again, because they can't stop praising the QB :o

[Rain Dog]

Typical Eli, falls apart when things don't go his way.
Couldn't agree more. *sigh*

[Jerry!]

Man, it feels like watching the Champs Sports Bowl game again, because they can't stop praising the QB :o

Well honestly you have to give him a lot of credit. I don't see how he has made some of these throws.

[Matt]

Well honestly you have to give him a lot of credit. I don't see how he has made some of these throws.

Exactly, its not like watching a game where Tony Romo throws 4 interceptions and the announcers continue to talk about how great he is. Brady has made history tonight. He deserves every ounce of praise he gets, for at least one night.

[Fran]

Well honestly you have to give him a lot of credit. I don't see how he has made some of these throws.

I was joking. Don't really care tonight :cwink:

Game's over.

[Jerry!]

I remember that game. That may be one of the worst broadcasting performances in football history. Worse than anything that Gumbel has done so far, and thats saying something.

[Matt]

I remember that game. That may be one of the worst broadcasting performances in football history. Worse than anything that Gumbel has done so far, and thats saying something.

That it is. This year's MNF team is horrible. Absolutely horrible.

[Jerry!]

Giants are taking too long.

[Fran]

Congrats to the New England Patriots. 16-0.

Thought I'd never see it happen.

I know I hate their guts, but damnit I've gotta give them some respect.

[BlackLantern]

now I know how all those other teams felt...who thought they had the Pats down and then saw the glimmer of hope fade away into they abyss of defeat........Mother****ing **** sucking @$r%@#$ @$R%@#$ 4%4#%%#$
can someone please beat these ***holes......please GOD I will be so good forever....let them loose to Jacksonville in the second round or something ......

[Rain Dog]

Man. I thought we had a chance. Ah well, congrats Pats.

[Dark Donnie]

Jax is my pick

[Fran]

I don't think anyone wants to play Jacksonville right now. They look plain sick.

[BlackLantern]

its OK....the Giants will just take the frustration out on tampa bay

[Matt]

So...Does this validate Bellechik? Is he officially the best coach in NFL history? When you combine this with the Superbowl rings and all the other accomplishments?

[Fran]

I think he's in the top 5 without a damn doubt, but I'm still impartial to Bill Walsh. Almost every modern-day coach has been a disciple of him.

[BlackLantern]

he has to win the sb this year.......then the legacy will be cemented

[Kelly]

So...Does this validate Bellechik? Is he officially the best coach in NFL history? When you combine this with the Superbowl rings and all the other accomplishments?


Not until he dresses for the part....:o

[Dark Donnie]

Definately not the best of all time. Bill Walsh>>>>>Hoodie

[Fran]

I'd like to see Belichick wear a suit and tie for the Super Bowl.

[Jerry!]

Game is not over yet.

[Addendum]

If the season ends with New England hoisting the Lombardi trophy, definitely yes.

If New England loses in the playoffs, he won't be considered THE best, but he has already established himself as among the best in the league

[Rain Dog]

The fact that we just scored is just makin' me angrier. It just makes me think we would have won were it not for Eli's INT.
EDIT: nvm, looks like the pats are gonna score again.

[NewYorkSpider]

How about Brady? Greater than Montana? Or does Brady need another SB victory to surpass him?

[Fran]

Definately not the best of all time. Bill Walsh>>>>>Hoodie

:up:

[BlackLantern]

Not until he dresses for the part....:o

thats crap....genius is genius regardless of what you wear.....nolan wore a suit all this year and look where it got him.....

[Fran]

How about Brady? Greater than Montana? Or does Brady need another SB victory to surpass him?

Once Tom Brady is an older man, gets drunk and kisses a reporter on-camera, then I'll consider him the greatest.

[Jerry!]

It depends, yeah if the Patriots win the Super Bowl this year, it's kind of hard to argue it. If they don't, it depends on how many more, if any more, Super Bowls he wins while coaching.

[BlackLantern]

at least the Giants didnt get beat down like Dallas......

[Fran]

Congrats once again, it's over.

[NewYorkSpider]

Congrats to the Patriots.

[BlackLantern]

thats what great teams do....keep plugging away and come away with the win.....congrats to New England

[Kelly]

Tom Landry will always be the best in my book. Bellechik will never have the class of Landry....

But he does have a 16-0 team....no one can take that away from him.

[Fran]

And the '72 Dolphins have a collective heart attack.

[Kelly]

thats crap....genius is genius regardless of what you wear.....nolan wore a suit all this year and look where it got him.....


Damn BL, the comment itself screams sarcasm......good lord.

[Jerry!]

How about Brady? Greater than Montana? Or does Brady need another SB victory to surpass him?

I think he has it pretty much locked up. As long as he doesn't go completely off the map and have Favre-like 20 INT seasons, then he is the best no doubt.

[NewYorkSpider]

I still think New England will lose in the playoffs.

[Addendum]

Landry was a helluva coach, but I'm partial to Halas

[Matt]

How about Brady? Greater than Montana? Or does Brady need another SB victory to surpass him?

Hmm, I'd argue Brady needs one more ring. Then the answer will be yes.

[BlackLantern]

Landry rocked a sweet hat and a tweed jacket.....thats an awesome look that no one else could have pulled off

[Kelly]

at least the Giants didnt get beat down like Dallas......
:whatever:


Very childish BL, very childish......

[Kelly]

Hmm, I'd argue Brady needs one more ring. Then the answer will be yes.


Agreed.....

[Matt]

Tom Landry will always be the best in my book. Bellechik will never have the class of Landry....

But he does have a 16-0 team....no one can take that away from him.

I respect the hell out of Landry, but all the class in the world doesn't give him the edge over Bellechik's accomplishments in my book

[NewYorkSpider]

I think he has it pretty much locked up. As long as he doesn't go completely off the map and have Favre-like 20 INT seasons, then he is the best no doubt.

I agree. I think he is the best QB in NFL history

[Fran]

I still think New England will lose in the playoffs.

That's what my friend and I have agreed on all year.

If they lost this game, the pressure would have been off. 15-1 is still best in the league by far.

I honestly think the Jags, Colts and Chargers in that order can take down the Pats.

[Jerry!]

Landry was a helluva coach, but I'm partial to Halas

I'm partial to him just for the fact of helping to create the NFL.

[BlackLantern]

:whatever:


Very childish BL, very childish......

i was looking for the positive

[Rain Dog]

I still think New England will lose in the playoffs.
My friend was saying how hilarious it would be if they lost their first playoff game. Unlikely, but *crosses fingers* here's to hoping

[kane9321]

perfection...just unbelieveable

[BlackLantern]

I bet Mercury Morris feels like a dumba$$ for running his cakehole

[Cmill216]

What a game. Congrats to Brady and the Pats. Couldn't be happier for a team I don't root for. :p

[Fran]

I never thought it would happen in this day and age of the NFL, to be honest.

MVP Voting:
1. Tom Brady
2. Randy Moss
3. LT

[NewYorkSpider]

That's what my friend and I have agreed on all year.

If they lost this game, the pressure would have been off. 15-1 is still best in the league by far.

I honestly think the Jags, Colts and Chargers in that order can take down the Pats.

Jags and Chargers are on fire right now. I don't think the Colts were entirely healthy when they played the Pats earlier in the year. And the game was still close.

[Jerry!]

That's what my friend and I have agreed on all year.

If they lost this game, the pressure would have been off. 15-1 is still best in the league by far.

I honestly think the Jags, Colts and Chargers in that order can take down the Pats.

I think it is the opposite actually. The whole year they have been playing to win the Super Bowl, just like they have since 2001. The pressure on them in the playoffs will be the same as it always was. It's the pressure late in the season that was new to them, to stay undefeated. Now that monkey is off their back.

[kane9321]

How about Brady? Greater than Montana? Or does Brady need another SB victory to surpass him?

not yet,brady needs another SB to be compared to THE GREATEST QB EVER

JOE COOL

[Fran]

Now that the 16-0 monkey is off their back, what about the 19-0 monkey?

The playoffs are an entirely different monster. Didn't Pittsburgh get in the playoffs the last game of the season, and win the Super Bowl beating the Colts along the way?

It all goes out the window once January 5th hits.

[Kelly]

Landry rocked a sweet hat and a tweed jacket.....thats an awesome look that no one else could have pulled off


Along with...


Two Super Bowl Titles
5 NFC Titles
13 Divisional titles
270-178-6 record
3rd most wins of all time in the NFL
20 career playoff victoriesAnd yes, he was class in his suit...

[Fran]

I know that Hank Hill loved Tom Landry too

[rdh007]

I bet Mercury Morris feels like a dumba$$ for running his cakehole
That would take too much self-awareness.
What a game. Congrats to Brady and the Pats. Couldn't be happier for a team I don't root for. :p
The above statement accurately sums up my feelings, as well. Ergo, I quoted it. (Or "QFT", whichever you prefer)

What makes it worse for me is that my wife has been threatening to leave me for Tom Brady all season. :(

[Kelly]

Also, it was good to see the coaches take chances right before the playoffs....


Desire to win......prevails again....

[Cmill216]

not yet,brady needs another SB to be compared to THE GREATEST QB EVER

JOE COOL

He doesn't need another SB to be compared to Joe. He's right on #16's ass, at this point. And if he gets a fourth this year, I don't see how can you argue for Joe.

[NewYorkSpider]

not yet,brady needs another SB to be compared to THE GREATEST QB EVER

JOE COOL

What about the records he holds now? A 16-0 team? It's pretty darn close.

[Jerry!]

There is no 19-0 monkey, it's never been done before. They are just going in with the intention of winning the Super Bowl, just like they have the past several years. You defeated your own argument when you said the playoffs are an entirely different monster.

[Fran]

I was speaking from the perspective of "No one can beat New England, give them the trophy" proclamations. The view of, no one else has a chance.

Damnit, you're right. I did contradict myself. F***. Long night at work :down

[dr venture]

Congrats to the Patriots. The Giants played a hell of a game but it just shows how good the Patriots are. Now Eli needs to go back to his normal turnover self next week against my team

[LastSunrise1981]

Wow, I honestly didn't think my favorite team in the NFL would go undefeated for the season. Could they become the first team to win the Super Bowl undefeated? Only time will tell, but until then, I'll enjoy this wonderful record setting win for my Pats. :up: :up:

[AgentPat]

That was such an awesome game. Stressful, but awesome. Go Pats!!! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/wahoo.gif

[The Game]

Man, I just saw history made before my eyes

Congrats to: Moss, Brady, the Patriot nation and their sterling fans on this site

Is Mercury Morris on Suicide Watch, lol

[Fran]

So it's settled then: Tom Brady is the MVP.

Agreed?

[Cmill216]

So it's settled then: Tom Brady is the MVP.

Agreed?

Brady - MVP
Moss - Offensive Player

[Jerry!]

Wait, wait. Peyton still has a game left to play.

[NewYorkSpider]

Yes. Brady = MVP

[BlackLantern]

lets just make Tom Brady the King of all football....why stop at MVP???

[Fran]

MVP - Tom Brady
Offensive Player - Randy Moss
Coach - Bill Belichick
Defensive Player - ?

[Cmill216]

Defensive Player - ?

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6938/bob20sanders201fw5.jpg

[The Game]

lets just make Tom Brady the King of all football....why stop at MVP???

King of the world, mwahahahaha

[NewYorkSpider]

Patrick Kerney maybe?

[Byrd Man]

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6938/bob20sanders201fw5.jpg

*Crosses self*

Sander's will be done.

Oh, way to go Pats. If you can shut Mercury Morris the **** up, I'm all for it.

[Fran]

Wasn't Sanders out for a couple games due to missionary work?

[Cmill216]

Actually, I'll take either Kerney or Patrick Willis (who'll win Defensive ROTY). Peterson will win Offensive ROTY.

[Matt]

So what does everyone think? Should Moss' record have an asterisk being as Jerry Rice got 22 in 12 games compared to Moss' 16?

[Ben Urich]

Patriots :down

[Jerry!]

So what does everyone think? Should Moss' record have an asterisk being as Jerry Rice got 22 in 12 games compared to Moss' 16?

I think they should try something new this time. Ask Jerry Rice. Seriously, ask him.

[rdh007]

So what does everyone think? Should Moss' record have an asterisk being as Jerry Rice got 22 in 12 games compared to Moss' 16?
No. Asterisks should be reserved for giving oneself an advantage, not having one built in.

[Cmill216]

So what does everyone think? Should Moss' record have an asterisk being as Jerry Rice got 22 in 12 games compared to Moss' 16?

No. It is what it is. Of course people will mention the strike shortened season and yatta yatta yatta, but the record is still the record; most touchdown receptions in a regular season.

[rdh007]

Wasn't Sanders out for a couple games due to missionary work?

Shows what you know. Sanders doesn't do missionary work, people do missionary work in His name.

Sanders was actually off for those games because he was healing the ill in Bangladesh and Taiwan for the first week, and I believe on the second week, he may have made Pluto grow large enough to be considered a full-fledged planet again. (Just because he cares)

[AgentPat]

I thought asterisks were just for roiders? :huh:


I kid, I kid. :D

[rdh007]

^No, I pretty much agree. (For what it's worth, which ain't much)

[kane9321]

patrick willis- rookie & defensive player of the yr

49er faithfull

[Xplicit Content]

Wicked. awesome. It's a testament to this team that I, not once, ever counted them out...even when they were down in the 3rd quarter. You just have this feeling that they will always find a way to get over the hump. Because of that, it's gonna be a painful and sobering experience the next time they lose...I'll probably be in denial over it. Hopefully this doesn't happen until after the SB. 16-0 is nice, but it still pails in comparison to a Bowl. Bring home another one, guys.

[Excel]

hell yes! we did it!!! that said, with mike martz on themarket we oughtta snatch him up...maybe then we wont do draw plays every 2nd down even though they get stuffed every time.

[Catman]

And the '72 Dolphins have a collective heart attack.

Regardless...the Patriots can claim to have the perfect season till they win the Super Bowl. If they even make it that far.

[Dark Donnie]

Bob Sanders will probably win Defensive Player of the Year, and Brady Offensive

[bored]

It was quite the game, no? It was nice to see some people breaking records this year that didn't infuriate me.

[Excel]

So when does the "can they go back to back undefeated" talk go on??

[LegendaryCaleb]

So when does the "can they go back to back undefeated" talk go on??
they wont be undefeated in the playoffs...they will not win the super bowl(i may eat my words)

[Ben Urich]

they wont be undefeated in the playoffs...they will not win the super bowl(i may eat my words)

:word:

[Silver Knight]

patrick willis- rookie & defensive player of the yr

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Did Adrian Peterson retire?