2007 NFL Thread

[Advanced Dark]

Not that I'm a huge Colts fan, but Indianapolis gave them that win.

So the gf works with someone who had season tickets to the Jets. So yesterday, I froze my ass off in the freezing rain to watch a match of who sucked less.

I heard a guy in the back of me, say something about overtime when the Jets were winning 10 to 3 and I was like "F' that!!!"

We left with like 6 minutes left in the 4th quarter. Walking out the Chiefs tied it, and down the road we listened to the Jets win it in overtime.

Eh, it was a $45 game. *shrug*

Haven't been to a game in over a year. :down

Indy didn't give them anything. Titans fumbled on 2 key drives and were ahead when Manning left that game. Then Vince was knocked out of the game in the 3rd. Titans could have kicked another field goal and would have been up by 9 pts with 40 seconds left. Indy gave them nothing.

[FaT_tONle]

Indy didn't give them anything. Titans fumbled on 2 key drives and were ahead when Manning left that game. Then Vince was knocked out of the game in the 3rd. Titans could have kicked another field goal and would have been up by 9 pts with 40 seconds left. Indy gave them nothing.

I am not disagreeing... but playing backups for an entire half againts a team in playoff mode isn't giving your team much of a chance to win at all. Titans did what they had to do... but 16 points against second stringers is not impressive at all.

[Jerry!]

Just what The Eagles would need

Another receiver who has trouble catching? :woot:

I'm just kidding....kinda.
But I never really expected him back. Of course I'd rather get rid of Mushin Muhammed instead, but whatever the case, and especially from the postgame conference with Lovie Smith, Devin Hester could be the starting wide out next season. He has the skills to do it, he is already practically in the Hall of Fame, he is the most dangerous player in the league, start getting the ball to him more. The Bears are cursed in the way that they have always had these once in in lifetime type players and never a team around him to really capitalize on their talent. Sayers, Payton, etc.

[Dark Donnie]

Speaking of The Ravens, where has Kaleb been?

[Immortalfire]

Whiskey Tango wins pick 'em.. http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=13675935#post13675935

[Jerry!]

Brian Billick....HE GONE!!
(http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-billick1231,0,7946013.story) He'll grab some bench!

[Mister J]

Jay Glazer is reporting that the Ravens have fired Brian Billick.

Brian Billick on December 10: I'm going to be back. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3150074)

:lmao:

[Cmill216]

I just heard Kornheiser is out on MNF and Gumbel is out on the NFL Network. :eek:

[Kelly]

Praise God...

[Immortalfire]

Praise God...

I will Amen that.

[Dark Donnie]

I just heard Kornheiser is out on MNF and Gumbel is out on the NFL Network. :eek:

No clue why Kornheiser even did it, he even said he stunk at it.

[NewYorkSpider]

He ended up with 9 less yards than he had last year while getting 40 more carries. His ypc dropped from 4.8 to 4.1; but more importantly, in the 2 months since the new england game these are his numbers:

368 yards on 112 carries- thats a 3.3 yards per carry over his final 8 games.

Thats not even remotelyt efficient.

They're using Addai more in the passing game. His recieving stats have improved since last season.

[BlackLantern]

so I guess all the talking heads were wrong saying that Bilick was safe...and both Kornheiser and Gumbel are out.....i dont know what i did to deserve such great gifts but Ill thank the big guy upstairs for it

[omid17]

wait whats up with Gumbel and Kornheiser?

[NewYorkSpider]

They suck.

[Kaleb]

Speaking of The Ravens, where has Kaleb been?

Hey man, Ive been around, I just moved to florida recently and dont have personal internet access yet.

[Genesis 1.0]

Dammit! Brian was doing pretty well after taking over on the offensive play calling, we went 13-3 and then this crapper of a season. I still don't think Brain should have been let go, blame it on Steve McNair!

[Kaleb]

I wish Brian good luck for the future in whatever he chooses to do, If San Fran do go ahead and fire Nolan then I can definatly see him taking over there.

[Advanced Dark]

Should we already start a separate 2008 thread to discuss next season too? LOL I'll leave that up to Stormin so for now the 2008 opponents have been chosen for all teams:

http://www.titansonline.com/news/newsmain_detail.php?PRKey=5507

The opponents for all 2008 regular-season games have been determined and a complete list of each team’s home and away matchups was issued today by the NFL.

The scheduling formula implemented in 2002 with realignment guarantees that all teams play each other on a regular, rotating basis.

Under the formula, every team within a division plays 16 games as follows:

• Home and away against its three division opponents (6 games).

• The four teams from another division within its conference on a rotating three-year cycle (4 games).

• The four teams from a division in the other conference on a rotating four-year cycle (4 games).

• Two intraconference games based on the prior year’s standings (2 games). These games match a first-place team against the first-place teams in the two same-conference divisions the team is not scheduled to play that season. The second-place, third-place, and fourth-place teams in a conference are matched in the same way each year.

The official 2008 schedule, with playing dates and times, will be announced in the spring.

NFL Kickoff 2008 Weekend will begin on Thursday night, September 4, and the regular season will conclude on December 28.

Wild Card Weekend will be Saturday and Sunday, January 3-4; Divisional Playoff games on the weekend of January 10-11; and the AFC and NFC Championship Games on Sunday, January 18.

Super Bowl XLIII at Raymond James Stadium in Tampa, Florida will be played on Sunday, February 1.

2008 SCHEDULING ROTATION BY DIVISION

AFC
Intraconference
AFCW
EAST
Interconference
NFCW



AFC
Intraconference
AFCS
NORTH
Interconference
NFCE



AFC
Intraconference
AFCN
SOUTH
Interconference
NFCN



AFC
Intraconference
AFCE
WEST
Interconference
NFCS






NFC
Intraconference
NFCW
EAST
Interconference
AFCN



NFC
Intraconference
NFCS
NORTH
Interconference
AFCS



NFC
Intraconference
NFCN
SOUTH
Interconference
AFCW



NFC
Intraconference
NFCE
WEST
Interconference
AFCE



2008 OPPONENTS

AFC SOUTH

1. Indianapolis Colts
Home: Houston Texans, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, New England Patriots, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions
Away: Houston Texans, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers, San Diego Chargers, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings

2. Jacksonville Jaguars
Home: Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, Tennessee Titans, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers, Buffalo Bills, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings
Away: Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, Tennessee Titans, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, Denver Broncos, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions

3. Tennessee Titans
Home: Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, Jacksonville Jaguars, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers, New York Jets, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings
Away: Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, Jacksonville Jaguars, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, Kansas City Chiefs, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions

4. Houston Texans
Home: Indianapolis Colts, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, Miami Dolphins, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions
Away: Indianapolis Colts, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers, Oakland Raiders, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings
AFC EAST
1. New England Patriots
Home: Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, New York Jets, Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs, Pittsburgh Steelers, Arizona Cardinals, St. Louis Rams
Away: Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, New York Jets, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers, Indianapolis Colts, San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks

2. Buffalo Bills
Home: Miami Dolphins, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers, Cleveland Browns, San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks
Away: Miami Dolphins, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs, Jacksonville Jaguars, Arizona Cardinals, St. Louis Rams

3. New York Jets
Home: Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, New England Patriots, Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs, Cincinnati Bengals, Arizona Cardinals, St. Louis Rams
Away: Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, New England Patriots, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers, Tennessee Titans, San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks

4. Miami Dolphins
Home: Buffalo Bills, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers, Baltimore Ravens, San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks
Away: Buffalo Bills, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs, Houston Texans, Arizona Cardinals, St. Louis Rams
AFC NORTH

1. Pittsburgh Steelers
Home: Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, Cleveland Browns, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, San Diego Chargers, Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants
Away: Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, Cleveland Browns, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, New England Patriots, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins

2. Cleveland Browns
Home: Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, Pittsburgh Steelers, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, Denver Broncos, Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants
Away: Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, Pittsburgh Steelers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, Buffalo Bills, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins

3. Cincinnati Bengals
Home: Baltimore Ravens, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, Kansas City Chiefs, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins
Away: Baltimore Ravens, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, New York Jets, Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants

4. Baltimore Ravens
Home: Cincinnati Bengals, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, Oakland Raiders, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins
Away: Cincinnati Bengals, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, Miami Dolphins, Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants

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[Advanced Dark]

AFC WEST

1. San Diego Chargers
Home: Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs, Oakland Raiders, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Indianapolis Colts, Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers
Away: Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs, Oakland Raiders, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, Pittsburgh Steelers, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

2. Denver Broncos
Home: Kansas City Chiefs, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, Jacksonville Jaguars, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Away: Kansas City Chiefs, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Cleveland Browns, Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers

3. Kansas City Chiefs
Home: Denver Broncos, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, Tennessee Titans, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Away: Denver Broncos, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Cincinnati Bengals, Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers

4. Oakland Raiders
Home: Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs, San Diego Chargers, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Houston Texans, Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers
Away: Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs, San Diego Chargers, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, Baltimore Ravens, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
NFC EAST

1. Dallas Cowboys
Home: New York Giants, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals
Away: New York Giants, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, Arizona Cardinals, St. Louis Rams, Green Bay Packers, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers

2. New York Giants
Home: Dallas Cowboys, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks, Carolina Panthers, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals
Away: Dallas Cowboys, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, Arizona Cardinals, St. Louis Rams, Minnesota Vikings, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers

3. Washington Redskins
Home: Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, Philadelphia Eagles, Arizona Cardinals, St. Louis Rams, New Orleans Saints, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers
Away: Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, Philadelphia Eagles, San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks, Detroit Lions, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals

4. Philadelphia Eagles
Home: Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, Washington Redskins, Arizona Cardinals, St. Louis Rams, Atlanta Falcons, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers
Away: Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, Washington Redskins, San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks, Chicago Bears, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals
NFC NORTH

1. Green Bay Packers
Home: Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Minnesota Vikings, Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, Dallas Cowboys, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts
Away: Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Minnesota Vikings, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Seattle Seahawks, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans

2. Minnesota Vikings
Home: Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Green Bay Packers, Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, New York Giants, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts
Away: Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Green Bay Packers, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Arizona Cardinals, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans

3. Detroit Lions
Home: Chicago Bears, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Washington Redskins, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans
Away: Chicago Bears, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, San Francisco 49ers, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts

4. Chicago Bears
Home: Detroit Lions, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Philadelphia Eagles, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans
Away: Detroit Lions, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, St. Louis Rams, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts
NFC SOUTH

1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Home: Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, New Orleans Saints, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, Seattle Seahawks, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers
Away: Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, New Orleans Saints, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Dallas Cowboys, Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs

2. Carolina Panthers
Home: Atlanta Falcons, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Arizona Cardinals, Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs
Away: Atlanta Falcons, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, New York Giants, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers

3. New Orleans Saints
Home: Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, San Francisco 49ers, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers
Away: Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Washington Redskins, Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs

4. Atlanta Falcons
Home: Carolina Panthers, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, St. Louis Rams, Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs
Away: Carolina Panthers, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, Philadelphia Eagles, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers
NFC WEST

1. Seattle Seahawks
Home: Arizona Cardinals, San Francisco 49ers, St. Louis Rams, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, Green Bay Packers, New England Patriots, New York Jets
Away: Arizona Cardinals, San Francisco 49ers, St. Louis Rams, Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins

2. Arizona Cardinals
Home: St. Louis Rams, San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks, Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, Minnesota Vikings, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins
Away: St. Louis Rams, San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, Carolina Panthers, New England Patriots, New York Jets

3. San Francisco 49ers
Home: Arizona Cardinals, St. Louis Rams, Seattle Seahawks, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, Detroit Lions, New England Patriots, New York Jets
Away: Arizona Cardinals, St. Louis Rams, Seattle Seahawks, Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, New Orleans Saints, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins

4. St. Louis Rams
Home: Arizona Cardinals, San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks, Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, Chicago Bears, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins
Away: Arizona Cardinals, San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, Atlanta Falcons, New England Patriots, New York Jets

end

God the patriots schedule looks so damn easy. 16-0 again? LOL

[Immortalfire]

Should we already start a separate 2008 thread to discuss next season too?

No, the winner of Fran's playoff gets that honor. After the Super Bowl.

[NewYorkSpider]

Patriots have the Chargers, Colts and Steelers. Those games will be tough. Patriots should have another good season.

The winner of the pool that Fran is doing will make next year's 2008 NFL thread.

[Advanced Dark]

Oh ok.

[omid17]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AujL0Kc6ARalkQtAr_8Y_lRDubYF?slug=ap-dolphins-gmfired&prov=ap&type=lgns

[NewYorkSpider]

Already posted 5 hours ago.

[omid17]

my bad

[Advanced Dark]

I thought the Dolphins were booted out of the NFL and now play in Finland.

[Jerry!]

I just heard Kornheiser is out on MNF and Gumbel is out on the NFL Network. :eek:

That is some of the best news I've heard this season. Too bad it came one year overdue.

[Dark Donnie]

Hey man, Ive been around, I just moved to florida recently and dont have personal internet access yet.

Hope the move went well...

I think you should go with someone offensive minded like Garrett, if not go with Singletary.

[Dark Donnie]

Dallas' Sparano a head coach candidate in Atlanta?
Monday, Dec 31, 2007 3:50 pm EST
Dallas Cowboys assistant coach Tony Sparano is expected to speak with the Atlanta Falcons about their vacant head coaching position according to the Dallas Morning News. Sparano is also rumored to "be coveted'' by Bill Parcells in Miami.

Sparano has been a Cowboys' assistant since 2003, serving as tight ends and offensive line coach before having the assistant head coach title added in 2006. Sparano served as the Cowboys' play-caller in 2006 when they scored 425 points and produced two 1,000-yard receivers and a 1,000-yard rusher. He has coached Pro Bowlers Jason Witten, Flozell Adams, Andre Gurode, Leonard Davis and Larry Allen with the Cowboys.

Source: Dallas Morning News

Related: Andre Gurode, Atlanta Falcons, Dallas Cowboys

Don't be surprised if Arizona moves James
Monday, Dec 31, 2007 3:36 pm EST

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Don't be shocked if Edgerrin James is wearing a different uniform next season according to the East Valley Tribune. His salary cap number will be $5 million for the Arizona Cardinals.

The Cardinals won't dump James if they don't have a capable replacement. They saw how well that worked out with Pete Kendall.

But if Arizona can find a quality running back in the draft, moving James for salary cap relief would make sense. The Indianapolis Colts did it, and they won a Super Bowl with his replacement, Joseph Addai.

Source: East Valley Tribune

Related: Arizona Cardinals, Indianapolis Colts

Javon Walker wants out of Denver
Monday, Dec 31, 2007 3:12 pm EST

The Denver Post reports that wide receiver Javon Walker, acquired via a trade with the Green Bay Packers, said he wants out of Denver. Walker suggested he might even like to return to Green Bay.

In a rambling briefing with the press, Walker essentially said he longer wants to be with the Broncos. Walker has $5.4 million in option bonus money coming to him this year and the team was planning on keeping him. However, after his bombshell, the team will likely seriously consider parting ways.

"It's not for Javon," Walker said. "It's not for me."

Source: Denver Post

:up:

[Alex The Great]

I just heard Kornheiser is out on MNF and Gumbel is out on the NFL Network. :eek:

:eek::up: *prays*

[Spider-Fan]

Oh man...Browns got a rough schedule next year :csad:

I mean Colts, Cowboys, Redskins, Eagles, Giants, Jaguars, and Titans...geez. That is not even including our division (which has the Steelers) and Texans, Broncos, and Bills don't exactly suck.

We may be the Jets of next year :csad:

[TheRunningMan]

how does pittsburgh get a tough ass schedule and the pats get an easy one? the pats are scheduling their own opponents?

[BlackLantern]

the Pats are in a crap division.....and once again the Giants get almost all of this seasons playoff teams.......

[NewYorkSpider]

how does pittsburgh get a tough ass schedule and the pats get an easy one? the pats are scheduling their own opponents?

The schedules rotate. If you're an AFC team you play an NFC team every four years, the other AFC divisons every three years and however you do during this season. Since the Steelers won their divison they play the other three divison winners. If you finish last in your divison, you play the other last place teams. You can pretty much find out a teams schedule forever with the exception of two games.

[Spider-Fan]

Correct. There is a scheduling formula. Unfortunately, it is unkind to the Browns and the AFC North as a whole, and more gentle to the AFC East in this case. It is just the way the system works.

[BlackLantern]

I see no valid reason why the schedule cannot be formulated after the playoffs and the super bowl.....the team winning the super bowl should receive the toughest schedule.....and so on down the line

[TheRunningMan]

oh ok

[Spider-Fan]

I see no valid reason why the schedule cannot be formulated after the playoffs and the super bowl.....the team winning the super bowl should receive the toughest schedule.....and so on down the line

The schedule is not hard to figure out. Each AFC division faces another one in rotation, same goes with AFC vs. NFC divisions. Just look at where each team placed in their division to get there remaining 2 opponents, and you have the schedule pretty much. It is not that hard to do.

[NewYorkSpider]

I see no valid reason why the schedule cannot be formulated after the playoffs and the super bowl.....the team winning the super bowl should receive the toughest schedule.....and so on down the line

I disagree. Most likely the Super Bowl winner would've won their divison. That means they will play the other three division winners. Plus, the team that won their divison in the other conference. The team that has the worse record(Dolphins) are going to get to play the other three teams that finished last in their divison. It's pretty fair if you ask me.

[BlackLantern]

i know there is a formula but it doesnt mean I have to like it

[Spider-Fan]

I like the formula...even if it is WAY too hard on my Browns next season (I just keep looking at that and saying WTF!!!)

[Badger]

Because only two games are based on strength of schedule, the rest are pre-determined from year to year. This year they play the top two teams from the AFC (after them) and the NFC, since they are the top team in the AFC. So they play, the Colts and Seahawks. They get the Seahawks who are ranked 4th in the NFC; because they played the Cowboys(1) and Giants(3) this year, and are already scheduled to play all the NFC North teams (Packers(2)) the following year.

[NewYorkSpider]

The opponents for all 2008 regular-season games have been determined and a complete list of each team’s home and away matchups was issued today by the NFL.


The scheduling formula implemented in 2002 with realignment guarantees that all teams play each other on a regular, rotating basis.


Under the formula, every team within a division plays 16 games as follows:


• Home and away against its three division opponents (6 games).


• The four teams from another division within its conference on a rotating three-year cycle (4 games).


• The four teams from a division in the other conference on a rotating four-year cycle (4 games).


• Two intraconference games based on the prior year’s standings (2 games). These games match a first-place team against the first-place teams in the two same-conference divisions the team is not scheduled to play that season. The second-place, third-place, and fourth-place teams in a conference are matched in the same way each year.


This is what Advanced Dark posted a little while ago. The Super Bowl champ will open the season on Thursday Night Football as well.

[NewYorkSpider]

So the entire Baltimore Ravens coaching staff is gone.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3175037

[Kaleb]

I cant believe they also go rid of Rex Ryan :(

[Excel]

1. Miami: Chris Long DE UVA
2. St. Louis: Glenn Dorsey DT LSU
3. Atlanta: Matt Ryan QB BC
4. Oakland: Darren McFadden RB Ark
5. Kansas City: Jake Long OT Mich
6. NYJ: James Laurinaitis ILB OSU
7. Baltimore: Brian Brohm QB Louisville
8. New England: Malcom Jenkins CB OSU

If Asante goes, Jenkins is the pick. Also, I dont think Laurenitis has decalred and dont see Baltimore drafting another qb when troy smith played ok. Atleast not in the top 10 picks. That said, I see Pats signing Samuel and Moss, if thats the case we could see a guy like Vernon Gholston or even Kenny Phillips.

[Fran]

I wouldn't mind Dorsey at all, but I'd rather have Ghoulston.

[Excel]

Btw...heard it first from excel...

Jason Taylor will be a Patriot next season :up: :up:

[Fran]

Anything to back that up?

[Fran]

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[Badger]

Anything to back that up?

Didn't you know Excell and the "Hooded-One" are like this:

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/ppauls/post/monkey-hugging-dog.jpg

[Fran]

I call Belichick the Hoody.

"Hoody" - Bill Belichick
"Sweater Vest" - Jim Tressel
"Ar-Kansas" - Les Miles
"The Pooch" - Charlie Weis
"Tuna" - Bill Parcells

[Excel]

Anything to back that up?

A hunch. Pats will be losing Bruschi and Colvin, and any league vet who has talent but has been on bad teams will DREAM of coming to New England. I see him being released and snatched up by the Pats.

[Fran]

I doubt the Tuna is dumb enough to release the Dolphins' best player.

It would be a great move, but I hardly see that happening.

[Excel]

Actually I think the Pats will trade a 2nd rounder next season or 3rd rounder this season for him. Parcells is all about the draft, and getting rid of old vets will be high on his list.

[Kaleb]

On ESPN this morning they said that the top 2 candidates for the Head Coaching spot for Baltimore are Garret from Dallas and also Jim Caldwell, the assistant head coach of the Colts. I think that Garret would be a great addition and would add a lot of offense to our team but I feel that Caldwell would be the perfect fit in Baltimore. He is the type of guy that doesn't take a lot of bull crap and can handle a lot of stars on one team. On ESPN, they said that he is the "Phil Jackson of the NFL

[FaT_tONle]

Oh man...Browns got a rough schedule next year :csad:

I mean Colts, Cowboys, Redskins, Eagles, Giants, Jaguars, and Titans...geez. That is not even including our division (which has the Steelers) and Texans, Broncos, and Bills don't exactly suck.

We may be the Jets of next year :csad:

Thats why I am telling you... its not about retooling... just look at the 49ers and Jets of this year... adding a FA here and there isn't going to get it done. I said a WHILE ago if Anderson doesn't take you to the playoffs... you trade him while the value is high... he is restricted no? Savage would be an idiot not deal Anderson for a 1st and a 3rd. You make that deal if its there... otherwise you'll have to tag his ass next offseason if he is indeed a big time QB... or you might get nothing for him like Brees/Chargers a couple of years back... go with the youth... the defense needs a MAJOR overhaul... you need those picks in the draft... no 1st rounder this year kills you... I am telling you... be one of those fans that pleads your Browns to deal Anderson.

[FaT_tONle]

how does pittsburgh get a tough ass schedule and the pats get an easy one? the pats are scheduling their own opponents?

How many times do we need to go through the scheduling... you realize fourteen of those games for 2008 were set back in 2002?

[FaT_tONle]

I see Pats signing Samuel and Moss, if thats the case we could see a guy like Vernon Gholston or even Kenny Phillips.

I just don't see where they have the space... Harrison will be gone... Seau isn't making that much... Stallworth is off the books... but where else is that cap space coming from? Brady had to restructure just to get Moss under the cap... now Moss will command almost ten million a year... and Samuel is a top five CB. Its one or the other. That's the NFL.

[Excel]

I see it like this:

Asante Samuel [CB]: 5 yr /48 mil.....Moss at 3 years 20 million...

Bruschi, Brown, Gay, Stallworth, and Colvin are gone. We sign Jason Taylor to a moss esque 1-2 years for 3-4million a year because it aint bout money.

[Alex The Great]

Btw...heard it first from excel...

Jason Taylor will be a Patriot next season :up: :up:
say wa?

[Fran]

He cares to explain it, if you read after that post.

[BlackLantern]

I call Belichick the Hoody.

"Hoody" - Bill Belichick
"Sweater Vest" - Jim Tressel
"Ar-Kansas" - Les Miles
"The Pooch" - Charlie Weis
"Tuna" - Bill Parcells

Darth Sweatshirt = Bill Belichick
I agree on Tressel
Cranky Old Guy = Tom coughlin

[FaT_tONle]

say wa?

It makes sense... I could see it... but the Pats aren't giving up more than a third rounder for Taylor... they need those draft picks. I agree with Excel that they will probably cut Colvin... but Bruschi is probably going to retire. Seau is done no matter what... Vrabel is old... the Pats have neglected the LB's in the draft. They need those draft picks... though I am not sure Taylor can play in that 3-4 and this age... that's why I don't see the Pats landing him. Parcells never scraps the whole thing... to him... he's got a decent RB when healthy and a franchise defensive player. I wouldn't scrap everything... even if I'm Miami.

[The Dude]

I call Belichick the Hoody.

"Hoody" - Bill Belichick
"Sweater Vest" - Jim Tressel
"Ar-Kansas" - Les Miles
"The Pooch" - Charlie Weis
"Tuna" - Bill Parcells

"Chucky"- Jon Gruden

[NewYorkSpider]

When's Jason Taylor's contract up. 2007? or 2010? If he's a free agent next season I see him signing with Pittsburgh, Cincinnati or Cleveland. If it's 2010 then he won't get traded to New England. The Dolphins would be stupid to trade him to a team in the divison. I don't care how old he is.

[Cmill216]

- Peterson named Offensive Rookie of the Year.

- The Bucs have reserved all available playoff tickets for Florida residents only.

[Silver Knight]

Question. Which team will Anderson be the QB for next season?

[Mister J]

Lions fire Offensive Coordinator Mike Martz (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3177253)

...yet Matt Millen and the D-Line coach who went into the Wendy's Drive-Thru buck-ass naked stilll have their jobs. :lmao:

[Silver Knight]

- Peterson named Offensive Rookie of the Year.

Never in doubt..

[Dark Donnie]

Dolphins Offense-TM- Dolphins Jan. 2 - 3:01 pm et


Dolphins named former Cowboys director Jeff Ireland general manager.

He replaces Randy Mueller, who was fired Monday. Ireland is considered a top notch drafter and a perfect fit in Miami along with VP of football operations Bill Parcells, with whom he's worked previously. The Dolphins will likely have to give Dallas a late-round pick if they hope to put Ireland to work before April's draft. He's still under contract with the Cowboys.
Source: Palm Beach Post
Related: Cowboys

[FaT_tONle]

Dolphins Offense-TM- Dolphins Jan. 2 - 3:01 pm et


Dolphins named former Cowboys director Jeff Ireland general manager.

He replaces Randy Mueller, who was fired Monday. Ireland is considered a top notch drafter and a perfect fit in Miami along with VP of football operations Bill Parcells, with whom he's worked previously. The Dolphins will likely have to give Dallas a late-round pick if they hope to put Ireland to work before April's draft. He's still under contract with the Cowboys.
Source: Palm Beach Post
Related: Cowboys

**** man.... wtf is up with all these team stripping the Cowboy staff.

[Fran]

Martz is this year's scapegoat for the Lions.

Matt Millen needs to go.

[NewYorkSpider]

Martz is a good coordinator and head coach. If Detroit......wait.......if Matt Millen would realize they have no running game, maybe they would be a little better on offense. I have a great idea! Let's take another WR in the first round of this years draft.

[Kelly]

On ESPN this morning they said that the top 2 candidates for the Head Coaching spot for Baltimore are Garret from Dallas and also Jim Caldwell, the assistant head coach of the Colts. I think that Garret would be a great addition and would add a lot of offense to our team but I feel that Caldwell would be the perfect fit in Baltimore. He is the type of guy that doesn't take a lot of bull crap and can handle a lot of stars on one team. On ESPN, they said that he is the "Phil Jackson of the NFL


Yeah, I figure a team is going to snatch him up pretty quickly.......:csad:

[Badger]

Chiefs clean house on the "O" side of the ball, 4 coaches fired. Mike Solari (Coordinator), John Matsko (O-line), Charlie Joyner (WR), and James Saxon (RB) hit the soup line. :up:

Only coaches on the "O" side remaining, Joh Embree (TE) and Dick Curl (Assisant Head Coach / QB).

[Excel]

What?

Dwayne Boe looks like a breakout for next season.

[bored]

Yeah, I think with Solari no longer calling the plays, whoever they get next (people are saying Curl is a strong possibility) will utilize Bowe more often. I don't care how scared of the pass Herm Edwards wants the Chiefs to be, Dwayne's a weapon.

[FaT_tONle]

Herm Edwards is probably the problem in KC... you know the first thing they did in Jet land when Herm blew that Pittsburg game... lets fire the coordinators first... and Hackett's head was the first to roll... wherever Herm goes he ends up with one of these ULTRA conservative O-coordinators... I wonder why? And believe me... it ain't a coincidence... look I love Herm... but man... that's one good coach that I can say with 100% certainty would NEVER win a Superbowl without having the most talented offensive team at his disposal. Though you could probably say that about many coaches... but Herm will be out in a couple of years anyway.

[BlackLantern]

Jerry Jones has basically told Jason Garrett that the Cowboys are his if he is willing to wait......but if another team offers him a buttload of cash he might not stick around

[NewYorkSpider]

Herm Edwards is probably the problem in KC... you know the first thing they did in Jet land when Herm blew that Pittsburg game... lets fire the coordinators first... and Hackett's head was the first to roll... wherever Herm goes he ends up with one of these ULTRA conservative O-coordinators... I wonder why? And believe me... it ain't a coincidence... look I love Herm... but man... that's one good coach that I can say with 100% certainty would NEVER win a Superbowl without having the most talented offensive team at his disposal. Though you could probably say that about many coaches... but Herm will be out in a couple of years anyway.

I agree. You look over the years at Kansas City's offensive production.

2002 - 375.0 YPG - 4th Best in the NFL
2003 - 369.4 YPG - 2nd Best in the NFL
2004 - 418.4 YPG - 1st Best in the NFL
2005 - 387.0 YPG - 1st Best in the NFL

Then comes in Herm Edwards.

2006 - 321.4 YPG - 16th Best in the NFL
2007 - 276.8 YPG - 31st Best in the NFL

You can blame the last couple of years on injuries and lack of QB expierence, but there's no reason for that offense to drop that suddenly. The defense isn't that bad in KC. Jared Allen is young and will be great for years to come. The offense needs a LOT of work done.

[Dark Donnie]

Eagles Offense-TM- Eagles Jan. 2 - 8:56 pm et


NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports Falcons owner Arthur Blank will interview Eagles GM Tom Heckert regarding the same position in Atlanta.

Blank will also interview Colts assistant general manager Chris Polian this week. The meeting with Heckert is set for next week. Blank will presumably offer Heckert more say with Atlanta than he currently has in Philadelphia.
Related: Falcons, Colts

Dolphins Offense-TM- Dolphins Jan. 2 - 10:32 pm et


ESPN's John Clayton reports a decision on Dolphins head coach Cam Cameron is expected to come by Friday.

Clayton says that if he's fired, Cameron will be "a popular choice" in San Francisco to succeed Jim Hostler. His system is essentially the same as Norv Turner's. Turner ran the 49ers' offense in 2006 and many of the same players are still there. Cameron's hiring would be great news for Frank Gore.
Source: ESPN Insider
Related: 49ers

Patriots Offense-TM- Patriots Jan. 2 - 11:06 pm et


The Ravens have asked permission to speak with Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels regarding their head coaching vacancy.

Baltimore is focusing on several offensive minds, also Jason Garrett (Cowboys), Tony Sparano (Cowboys), and Jim Caldwell (Colts), even though Ravens players want deposed defensive coordinator Rex Ryan to succeed Brian Billick. Ryan will get an interview, but it may be only as a formality.
Source: ESPN.com
Related: Ravens

Chiefs Offense-TM- Chiefs Jan. 3 - 12:23 am et


Sources tell the Kansas City Star that the Chiefs are in talks with UTEP offensive coordinator Eric Price about running their offense in 2008.

Price, 41, was an assistant on coach Herm Edwards' staff with the Jets and runs a spread offense at Texas-El Paso, though the Chiefs hardly have the receiver depth for that type of attack. Another candidate is Jaguars QBs coach Mike Shula, the head coach at Alabama during Brodie Croyle's time there.
Source: Kansas City Star
Related: Jaguars, Jets

Steelers Defense-TM- Steelers Jan. 2 - 7:11 pm et


Sources tell the Baltimore Sun that the Ravens are gearing up to make a run at Bill Cowher to succeed Brian Billick as head coach.

Ravens officials could reportedly meet with Cowher by as soon as this weekend. Cowher, currently an analyst for CBS, has said he doesn't plan to return to coaching before 2009, but the idea of taking over a talented, veteran team could be intriguing. Cowher also knows the AFC North quite well.
Source: Baltimore Sun
Related: Ravens


Ravens Offense-TM- Ravens Jan. 2 - 7:05 pm et


The Baltimore Sun believes Marty Schottenheimer is the "safest bet" to be the Ravens' next head coach.

Schottenheimer's past success may give him an edge over less experienced candidates Jason Garrett, Kirk Ferentz, Josh McDaniels, and Mike Singletary. Other than at quarterback, the Ravens' roster is built to win now.
Source: Baltimore Sun
Related: Cowboys, Patriots, Chargers, 49ers


:up:

[Dark Donnie]

Ravens Defense-TM- Ravens Jan. 2 - 6:33 pm et


Former Ravens defensive coordinator Rex Ryan expects to meet with the Falcons regarding their head coaching vacancy.

There's reportedly "a strong chance" the sides will meet next week. Ryan's defense finished sixth in the NFL in 2007 despite key injuries to starters in the secondary, at linebacker, and along the defensive line.
Source: Baltimore Sun
Related: Falcons

Colts Offense-TM- Colts Jan. 2 - 5:42 pm et


The Falcons are expected to interview Colts assistant head/coach offense Jim Caldwell regarding their head coaching vacancy.

It's unknown when the interview will take place, but it'll presumably be later this week because the Colts are on a playoff bye. Caldwell, 52, knows Falcons president Rich McKay from their days together in Tampa. Peyton Manning credits Caldwell with much of his development as a quarterback.
Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution

:up:

[Fran]

According to ESPN's Chris Mortensen, the Dolphins have fired Cam Cameron.

[Dark Donnie]

Bye Bye Cam

Report: Dolphins can Cam Cameron

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports that the Dolphins have fired Cam Cameron.

Bill Parcells likely waited until GM Jeff Ireland was in place before making this move, since the GM should be able to hire the coaching staff. If the Dolphins want to interview any Cowboys assistants, they will have to do it in the next two days or wait until Dallas is out of the playoffs. Cameron becomes a leading candidate to fill any offensive coordinator jobs; San Francisco makes a lot of sense. Dallas could be another possibility. Jan. 3 - 9:04 am et

[Dark Donnie]

Nice Win Titans

Collins: Titans knew Colts would kneel down

Kerry Collins, speaking on WFAN, said that the Titans kneeled down at the end of the Colts-Titans game because they knew the Colts wouldn't call a timeout.

Collins said that the Titans originally called a running play, but he was told over his headset that the Colts wouldn't call a timeout to potentially force Tennessee to punt with less than 20 seconds left. Pressed further, Collins said the Colts and Titans coaches had "an agreement," which is sure to raise collusion questions. Clearly it would have been a long shot for the Colts to win, but Browns fans won't enjoy hearing this one. Jan. 3 - 8:42 am et

[Fran]

:down:down:down:down:down

I still wish the Browns got in.

[Dark Donnie]

Agreed...at least the Browns offense is exciting

[Mister J]

According to ESPN's Chris Mortensen, the Dolphins have fired Cam Cameron.

Bye Bye Cam
Yep. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3178646)

I've already gotten more enjoyment out of the Dolphins offseason than all of the regular season. :up:

[kane9321]

great cam cameron and martz got fired...the 49ers offensive coordinator search could be interesting..heheeheh

[Silver Knight]

Cam Cameron. HE GONE!

[Cmill216]

:down:down:down:down:down

I still wish the Browns got in.

As do I. That's because Cleveland would actually give the Chargers fits.

On the other hand, I'd be surprised if Tennessee didn't receive a titanic ass kicking.

[Mister J]

As do I. That's because Cleveland would actually give the Chargers fits.

On the other hand, I'd be surprised if Tennessee didn't receive a titanic ass kicking.
I see what you did there. :star:

[Fran]

:up:

[Silver Knight]

So where will Anderson end up next season?

[Dark Donnie]

Keyshawn Johnson-WR-Panthers Jan. 3 - 12:59 pm et

The Miami Herald is reporting that Keyshawn Johnson has not ruled out the possibility of a comeback with the Dolphins and close friend, Bill Parcells.

He would take on a mentoring role for the Dolphins young wide receivers if he decided to leave ESPN, but consider this a longshot to happen. He was possibly the slowest receiver in the league when he retired last year, and it will take a lot to lure him away from his studio analyst role.
Source: Miami Herald

:down:

[kane9321]

dont be stupid keyshawn

[Immortalfire]

Heck no, Keyshawn. Stay at ESPN so you can keep doing what you do best!



Talk.

[Dark Donnie]

Keyshawn is so overrated, mostly by himself but overrated nontheless

[Mister J]

The Miami Herald is reporting that Keyshawn Johnson has not ruled out the possibility of a comeback with the Dolphins and close friend, Bill Parcells.
:dry:

I know Parcells like his veteran guys, but still :dry:
This doesn't need to happen.
Keyshawn is so overrated, mostly by himself but overrated nontheless
Funny, I was watching the 'Top 25 Most Overrated Sports Personalities/Moments' last night and I believe Keyshawn was #3. :hehe:

[Dark Donnie]

Patriots Defense-TM-Patriots Jan. 3 - 2:24 pm et

Bill Belichick has been named the The Associated Press 2007 NFL Coach of the Year.

The first undefeated season since the 1972 Dolphins propelled Belichick to his second award in five years. Packers coach Mike McCarthy finished second with 15 votes. Wade Phillips and Jack Del Rio each received two votes while Tony Dungy and Jon Gruden each garnered one.

expected:cmad:

[Dark Donnie]

:dry:

I know Parcells like his veteran guys, but still :dry:
This doesn't need to happen.

Funny, I was watching the 'Top 25 Most Overrated Sports Personalities/Moments' last night and I believe Keyshawn was #3. :hehe:

I think it was T.O. who was tearing him apart a few weeks back, for once T.O. was absolutly correct in everything he was saying.

He's had over 100 catches once, and over 10 td's once.

[Mister J]

The Grey Hood owns us all.

Let the Sith references commence.

[Mister J]

I think it was T.O. who was tearing him apart a few weeks back, for once T.O. was absolutly correct in everything he was saying.

He's had over 100 catches once, and over 10 td's once.
zXqAtZpXbpc
Game, Set, Match; Owens. :lmao:

[Dark Donnie]

Roydell Williams out with broken ankle

Titans WR Roydell Williams, tied for the team lead in receptions, will miss the playoffs with a broken ankle suffered in Wednesday's practice.

Jan. 3 - 2:54 pm et

Bo Scaife is out as well for the entire playoffs

[TheRunningMan]

haha I love T.O. from spiking the ball on the dallas star to calling out keyshawn

[bored]

Herm Edwards is probably the problem in KC... you know the first thing they did in Jet land when Herm blew that Pittsburg game... lets fire the coordinators first... and Hackett's head was the first to roll... wherever Herm goes he ends up with one of these ULTRA conservative O-coordinators... I wonder why? And believe me... it ain't a coincidence... look I love Herm... but man... that's one good coach that I can say with 100% certainty would NEVER win a Superbowl without having the most talented offensive team at his disposal. Though you could probably say that about many coaches... but Herm will be out in a couple of years anyway.


You're telling me. The end of the Edwards era can't come soon enough for my liking.

[Mister J]

You're telling me. The end of the Edwards era can't come soon enough for my liking.
But he plays to win the game ...Hello.

[Advanced Dark]

For those following the Titans "Gage" has really come out of nowhere and been an awesome receiver. Moulds has been quiet but with Roydell Williamsn out for the season and Scaife on IR...I expect Troupe, Moulds, and Early to really pick it up.

[Mee]

Dear NFL coaches,


The draw play is stupid. Always. Even when it works, it's just by dumb luck. And it only works like 1 out of every 10-15 tries.


Love,
Mee

xOOxoXXo

[Kelly]

I hate ANY PLAY, that has you starting your run, 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage......ALL OF THESE PLAYS should be BURNED..........BUUUUURRRRNED....

[Mee]

Well, reverses are ok. As long as it's to a speedy reciever.

[Mister J]

As long as we're on the subject, get rid of the WR Screen.

This ain't college. Stop it.

[Kelly]

Well, reverses are ok. As long as it's to a speedy reciever.

If the defense is worth the money they are being payed, this is one of the easiest plays for them to read.

[Dark Donnie]

Draws work only on 3rd downs

[Dark Donnie]

Patriots Offense-TM-Patriots Jan. 3 - 8:20 pm et

The Patriots released a statement from offensive coordinator Josh McDaniel Thursday regarding potential interviews for head coaching jobs.

"I am very grateful for the chance to interview for NFL head coaching positions but I have decided not to pursue those opportunities at this time," the statement from McDaniels reads. "I plan to focus all my attention on our postseason preparation." This indicates that McDaniel could be still interested in head coaching possibilities after the playoffs.
Source: Providence Journal

Colts Offense-TM-Colts Jan. 3 - 7:44 pm et

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports Falcons owner Arthur Blank's interview request was turned down by Colts assistant GM Chris Polian.

Blank is having a rough week in his dual search for a general manager and head coach, also being turned down by Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels. In the end, it wouldn't be a surprise if Blank has to settle for a lesser name, even though he's intended all along to make a big splash.
Related: Colts

Vikings Defense-TM- Vikings Jan. 3 - 6:44 pm et


The Dolphins will interview Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier regarding their head coaching vacancy.

The meeting probably won't happen until early next week. Frazier has no ties to Bill Parcells, so he'll be an underdog in Miami's coaching search. Parcells tends to focus on surrounding himself with "his guys" when possible. Frazier also runs a Tampa 2 scheme. Parcells is a devoted 3-4 man.
Source: Miami Herald
Related: Dolphins

Warren Sapp-DL- Raiders Jan. 3 - 5:22 pm et


Raiders DT Warren Sapp announced his retirement from football.

"If you were going to pick a football team...and it came time for you to pick your three-technique," Sapp said, "you were taking me with you. That's all I ever wanted from this game." A seven-time Pro Bowler and six-time All Pro, Sapp retires with 96.5 sacks, an incredible amount for an interior lineman. He was Defensive Player of the Year in 1999 and won a Super Bowl with the Bucs in 2002. Sapp will likely be a first or second ballot Hall of Famer.
Source: Contra Costa Times


Javon Walker-WR-Broncos Jan. 3 - 7:39 pm et

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports Javon Walker will be shopped by the Broncos this offseason.

If the Broncos can get a first-day pick for Walker, it appears they'll pull the trigger, although that may be unlikely because of Walker's knee. Schefter says that Chad Johnson could also be on the trade block despite the Bengals' "adamant" stance so far that he's unavailable. There has been speculation that Bill Parcells and the Dolphins will go after Ocho Cinco.
Related: Chad Johnson, Bengals, Dolphins


:yay:

[Jerry!]

Sapp...HE DONE! Yes! I like how he disappeared in Oakland for a few years. Was a relief.

[Fran]

Sapp had a great career overall though, for the most part.

Didn't realize he was that old.

[Fran]

NOTE: To those who submitted me their picks a day or two ago, might not make it in the pool.

Some spots will be cut.

[rdh007]

NOTE: To those who submitted me their picks a day or two ago, might not make it in the pool.

Some spots will be cut.
This is a U-M thing isn't it? ;)

[Fran]

Not at all. Just getting a ton of PM's.

I can assure you your spot is sealed.

[Excel]

Ill Miss Ya, Warren :down :down

[rdh007]

Not at all. Just getting a ton of PM's.

I can assure you your spot is sealed.
Oh, well in that case---screw those lazy late-comers!!!
















Again, only joking.

[Excel]

Btw with Cameron done, scratch all the #1 Pick-Ronnie Brown talk.

If Atlanta was smart...theyd get him as offensive cordinator and draft RUN DMC. Then I would legit draft McFaffen over everybody. Camerons an rb genius.

[Ben Urich]

I can join pool plz? :o

[Fran]

Actually, a spot or two is still open. :up:

[Advanced Dark]

I never noticed those "rating" stars at the top of the thread as long as I've been here. LOL

[Fran]

I think it's a new feature.

Or else I'm blind.

[BlackLantern]

I give Fran and myself 4 stars

[Mister J]

The Dolphins will interview Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier regarding their head coaching vacancy.

The meeting probably won't happen until early next week. Frazier has no ties to Bill Parcells, so he'll be an underdog in Miami's coaching search. Parcells tends to focus on surrounding himself with "his guys" when possible. Frazier also runs a Tampa 2 scheme. Parcells is a devoted 3-4 man.

Schefter says that Chad Johnson could also be on the trade block despite the Bengals' "adamant" stance so far that he's unavailable. There has been speculation that Bill Parcells and the Dolphins will go after Ocho Cinco.
Parcells isn't wasting any time. :up:
Can't blame him. There's plenty of work to be done.
Raiders DT Warren Sapp announced his retirement from football.
Sapp is one of the best ever. It was good to watch dominate over his career. His antics weren't bad either. Mike Sherman never did put a jersey on; he wasn't so tough. :o

[Fran]

Man, if Bill turns this thing around, he could win GM of the year in 2009.

[NewYorkSpider]

Sapp is one of the best ever. It was good to watch dominate over his career. His antics weren't bad either. Mike Sherman never did put a jersey on; he wasn't so tough. :o

What was that whole deal about him and Sherman? I remember it was like 5 years ago they got into an arguement after the game.

[Cmill216]

Sapp was a bit of a d*** to fans in Tampa, but his skills should never be questioned. One of the best pass rushers to ever play the defensive tackle position, and a guy who was one of THE cornerstones of the Buccaneers turnaround in the mid 90s. I'll always remember his wars with Favre, and it's sad to see the man go.

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2/sappqf7.jpg

[Mister J]

I believe it was an interception return; Packers OL Chad Clifton was just jogging down the field (no threat to make a tackle, since the play was like, 30 yards away and moving the other direction) and Sapp blindsided him with a [Kel Madden] de-cleater [/Kel Madden]. It was a legal hit, but a cheap shot IMO. Clifton had to leave the game and spent some time in the hospital ( I think he missed the rest of the season). Sherman let Sapp know after the game that he didn't appreciate it. Allow me to paraphrase...

Sherman: That was bull**** what you pulled.
Sapp: **** you.
Sherman: No, **** you.
Sapp: You so tough? Put a jersey on! Put a jersey on if you so tough. Put a jersey on ...or get some better players!
--------------
Afterwards...

Sapp: If I was 25 years old and didn't have a kid and a conscience, I would have given him an asskicking right there at the 30-yard line.

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/2502/asappiel7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Put a jersey on! :cmad:

edit: How is this not on YouTube? :down

[Cmill216]

^ A memorable game too. Bucs and Packers, fighting for best record in the NFL.

Those....were....the....days. :csad:

*manly soft sigh*

[Showtime]

I believe it was an interception return; Packers OL Chad Clifton was just jogging down the field (no threat to make a tackle, since the play was like, 30 yards away and moving the other direction) and Sapp blindsided him with a [Kel Madden] de-cleater [/Kel Madden]. It was a legal hit, but a cheap shot IMO. Clifton had to leave the game and spent some time in the hospital ( I think he missed the rest of the season). Sherman let Sapp know after the game that he didn't appreciate it. Allow me to paraphrase...

Sherman: That was bull**** what you pulled.
Sapp: **** you.
Sherman: No, **** you.
Sapp: You so tough? Put a jersey on! Put a jersey on if you so tough. Put a jersey on ...or get some better players!
--------------
Afterwards...

Sapp: If I was 25 years old and didn't have a kid and a conscience, I would have given him an asskicking right there at the 30-yard line.

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/2502/asappiel7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Put a jersey on! :cmad:

edit: How is this not on YouTube? :down

Heh Heh. That is awesome.

[bored]

But he plays to win the game ...Hello.


Which would be well and good if he actually, you know, won the game.

[Mister J]

Herm said nothing about coaching to win the game. It's not as good of a sound byte.

Honestly, I'm surprised at his struggles. Some of his decision have been really suspect.

[bored]

Herm said nothing about coaching to win the game. It's not as good of a sound byte.

Honestly, I'm surprised at his struggles. Some of his decision have been really suspect.

His problem is that he's too stubborn to admit when his system isn't working. The only times he changes it up, he overcompensates, apparently thinking he's proving a point.

[Dark Donnie]

Browns Defense-TM- Browns Jan. 4 - 3:20 am et


ESPN's John Clayton doesn't believe coach Romeo Crennel is likely to get a contract extension from the Browns.

The sides have discussed a three-year extension, but Clayton thinks Crennel must prove himself again in 2008 to get that kind of security. If the Browns don't lock Crennel up, however, he could take any overtures from the Dolphins more seriously. Several reports have him at the top of Miami's list.
Source: ESPN Insider
Related: Dolphins


Dolphins Defense-TM- Dolphins Jan. 3 - 9:34 pm et


An NFL source tells the Palm Beach Post that Browns coach Romeo Crennel is on the Dolphins' "A list" of head coaching candidates.

Crennel could use Miami's interest in him as leverage in extension talks with Cleveland. Cowboys assistant head coach Tony Sparano, who will interview with the Falcons on Friday, is reportedly also on the Dolphins' "A list."
Source: Palm Beach Post
Related: Falcons, Browns, Cowboys


Jared Allen-DL- Chiefs Jan. 4 - 2:20 am et


Chiefs DE Jared Allen says he and the team are not close to reaching agreement on a long-term contract.

He will be franchise tagged if the sides haven't found a common ground by February. Allen led the NFL in sacks in 2007 despite missing two games.
Source: Kansas City Star


Bernard Berrian-WR- Bears Jan. 4 - 2:09 am et


Bears GM Jerry Angelo didn't rule out the idea of placing the franchise tag on impending free agent Bernard Berrian at Thursday's press conference.

The tag would net Berrian roughly $8 million, the same amount Chicago offered him during in-season contract talks. The Bears' reporters don't think Berrian will be back, but the franchise tag makes a lot of sense on both ends.
Source: Chicago Sun Times


Chad Johnson-WR- Bengals Jan. 3 - 11:47 pm et


Adam Schefter reports that a "showdown is looming" between Chad Johnson and the Bengals.

If T.J. Houshmandzadeh gets a contract extension as expected, Ocho Cinco is going to make a stink about his below-market deal. There are indications he already has, and may ask to be dealt this offseason. The Bengals don't seem willing to move Johnson, but a possible holdout or trade request looks like a possibility.
Source: NFL.com

:yay:

[Johnny Blaze]

Sapp was a bit of a d*** to fans in Tampa, but his skills should never be questioned. One of the best pass rushers to ever play the defensive tackle position, and a guy who was one of THE cornerstones of the Buccaneers turnaround in the mid 90s. I'll always remember his wars with Favre, and it's sad to see the man go.

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2/sappqf7.jpg

Yeah, he did have a reputation of being an ******* to fans who met him on the streets, but I can't really blame him. If you're out with your family you don't want to be continually harrassed for autographs and such that you'll see on eBay later.
And it's not like you can just give a few and that's it. Then you'll have the ones who got shot down all pissy and *****ing in front of your wife and kids and ruining your evening.

In any case, it's sad to see him go. I hope the Bucs will do the right thing and sign him to the typical one-day contract so that he can retire a Tampa Bay Buccaneer.

Hell, I'd love it if he could come back at a smaller salary for a year and jump in the D-Line rotation for 08 and retire after the season. Would only help the progress of Haye and the other DTs to have a veteran like Sapp help further teach them the UT position the Bucs use.
I think that's just a pipe dream though. :csad:

yCQfHhEC8sk

[Dark Donnie]

49ers' Willis named Defensive Rookie of Year

49ers ILB Patrick Willis was named NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year by the Associated Press.

"The good Lord has blessed me with skills that are uncommon," he said. Yes, He has. Willis, the No. 11 overall pick, should've went higher. He led the NFL with 173 tackles in 2007; the next closest was 33 behind. Willis also had four sacks and may already be the league's best linebacker in pursuit. He won with 48 of 50 votes. Jon Beason (Panthers) took home the other two. Jan. 4 - 12:53 pm et

[Dark Donnie]

Raiders to retain defensive coordinator Ryan

A Raiders spokesman confirmed Friday that the team will retain defensive coordinator Rob Ryan for the 2008 season.

Coach Lane Kiffin and Ryan himself both indicated in their season ending press conferences that Ryan wouldn't return. Several reports had him already headed to the Jets. But it appears owner Al Davis overrided Kiffin's wish to have Ryan axed. It's another example of why no one wants to coach the Raiders. Jan. 4 - 4:51 pm et

:dry:

[Mister J]

But it appears owner Al Davis overrided Kiffin's wish to have Ryan axed. It's another example of why no one wants to coach the Raiders.
Just Win Baby.

[Jerry!]

I can't believe the Steelers are basically being given no chance to win by some people in their playoff game. Yeah Jacksonville is good, but come on, that game was decided by just one touchdown. One touchdown and it's a completely different game. The way you hear about the game you expected it was a blowout. One horrible performance against the rush in how many games and the Steelers are done for? In one of ESPN's polls the Steelers have been voted as one of least likeliest underdog to win and the Redskins were voted as the most likely. Is that a joke? The Redskins are like the Saints last year. They aren't going anywhere even if they beat Seattle, which would shock me if they did.

[Showtime]

If Crennel comes in and coaches the Dolphins Belichick will be facing two coaches that worked under him in a 4 team division.

[Advanced Dark]

Vince Young did better today at practice but still a game time decision. I imagine he'll play if not I have faith in Collins. There's a HUGE rain storm heading my way so this game is gonna be a mudfest.

[Dark Donnie]

I can't believe the Steelers are basically being given no chance to win by some people in their playoff game. Yeah Jacksonville is good, but come on, that game was decided by just one touchdown. One touchdown and it's a completely different game. The way you hear about the game you expected it was a blowout. One horrible performance against the rush in how many games and the Steelers are done for? In one of ESPN's polls the Steelers have been voted as one of least likeliest underdog to win and the Redskins were voted as the most likely. Is that a joke? The Redskins are like the Saints last year. They aren't going anywhere even if they beat Seattle, which would shock me if they did.

Pittsburgh is extremely banged up, no Willie Parker, there missing there two top tackles, and Polamalu is hobbled. I think even Hines Ward is injured. That is one of the reason no one will think they will win.

[TheRunningMan]

the steelers are a different team in the playoffs. espn keeps talkin about how jacksonville is unstoppable and how supposedly they dominated us in the regular season. it was 22-29.

[kane9321]

49ers' Willis named Defensive Rookie of Year

49ers ILB Patrick Willis was named NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year by the Associated Press.

"The good Lord has blessed me with skills that are uncommon," he said. Yes, He has. Willis, the No. 11 overall pick, should've went higher. He led the NFL with 173 tackles in 2007; the next closest was 33 behind. Willis also had four sacks and may already be the league's best linebacker in pursuit. He won with 48 of 50 votes. Jon Beason (Panthers) took home the other two. Jan. 4 - 12:53 pm et


yessssssssssssssssssssssssssss baby p will

[FaT_tONle]

Here are the picks for the weekend... take em to the bank...

Seattle 20 Skins 17 (The dream is over for the douchebags that are the Redskins)

Jags 28 Steelers 17 (Steelers have no shot... for real...)

Giants 24 TB 16 (Sorry Numb3r... but the Bucs are probably not even a playoff team if they played in the NFC East)

San Diego 31 Titans 13 (This one will be brutal to watch...)

But whatever happens is really irrelevant... none of these teams have a legitimate shot at a Superbowl IMO. Playoffs really start next week. As for the preliminary games... I'll just enjoy and avoid the sweat unlike last year.

[Jerry!]

the steelers are a different team in the playoffs. espn keeps talkin about how jacksonville is unstoppable and how supposedly they dominated us in the regular season. it was 22-29.

Thats exactly what I'm talking about. Yeah they played horribly on defense, but it still ended up being a one touchdown game. Analysts talk about it like it was a blowout. I don't buy into all the Jaguar hype.

[The Apocalypse]

Lets go Lions..o wait...

:(

[Dark Donnie]

Lance Briggs-LB-Bears Jan. 5 - 12:02 pm et

An NFL executive believes impending free agent Lance Briggs will end up with the 49ers this offseason.

The Niners were close to acquiring Briggs at October's trade deadline, but the sign-and-trade agreement was nixed because Briggs was the Bears' franchise player. Briggs is a sideline to sideline outside linebacker in Chicago, but would play inside in San Francisco's 3-4 scheme.
Source: Chicago Tribune
Related: 49ers

[Fran]

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[Silver Knight]

Lance Briggs-LB-Bears Jan. 5 - 12:02 pm et

An NFL executive believes impending free agent Lance Briggs will end up with the 49ers this offseason.

The Niners were close to acquiring Briggs at October's trade deadline, but the sign-and-trade agreement was nixed because Briggs was the Bears' franchise player. Briggs is a sideline to sideline outside linebacker in Chicago, but would play inside in San Francisco's 3-4 scheme.
Source: Chicago Tribune
Related: 49ers
I really hope this turns out to be true.

[TheRunningMan]

whats it mean that you supports 40% of the nba?

[jaguarr]

Raiders to retain defensive coordinator Ryan

A Raiders spokesman confirmed Friday that the team will retain defensive coordinator Rob Ryan for the 2008 season.

Coach Lane Kiffin and Ryan himself both indicated in their season ending press conferences that Ryan wouldn't return. Several reports had him already headed to the Jets. But it appears owner Al Davis overrided Kiffin's wish to have Ryan axed. It's another example of why no one wants to coach the Raiders. Jan. 4 - 4:51 pm et


Honestly, Ryan's not the Raiders problem, as I've said before. They DO refer to the major problem the Raiders have, though, and that's Al Davis. The guy won't let his coaching and management staff do what they want to do or recruit how they'd like to. As a lifelong Raiders fan I still say that, as long as Al Davis is alive or has any say in what that team does, they will suck. :(

jag

[LegendaryCaleb]

can i join...or is it too late?

[Spider-Fan]

You should be good if you pm your picks to Fran prior to the games starting.

[Dark Donnie]

Falcons Offense-TM-Falcons Jan. 5 - 12:41 pm et

WIP's Howard Eskin reports Eagles GM Tom Heckert will likely take the general manager position in Atlanta is he's offered it.

Eskin says he's "98 percent" certain Heckert will replace Rich McKay as the Falcons' GM. Heckert is interviewing for the gig on Monday. It wouldn't be considered a lateral move because he's likely to have final say in Atlanta.
Source: Trenton Times
Related: Eagles

[LegendaryCaleb]

You should be good if you pm your picks to Fran prior to the games starting.
i hath:)
hopefully im not too late...

[cookiva]

Hmmm....really???

Did Tom Brady really deserve the MVP??? Like we couldnt see this coming. They should have just renamed the award after this season after him...

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7640564?MSNHPHMA

[Jerry!]

Huh?

[Mister J]

It should have been unanimous.

[dr venture]

Congrats to Tom Brady

[Alex The Great]

Tom Brady MVP....NO doubt at all....50 touchdown passes.......only like.....5 ints or something like that..

[Cmill216]

Seattle's defense is playing lights out right now; laying the wood on Collins.

[Panophobia]

Looks like I'm going to be 1 for 1 with my picks.

[Cmill216]

Merging the playoff thread with the main NFL thread.

We really don't need a seperate thread for the playoffs, guys.

[NewYorkSpider]

I think everyone will be 1 for 1 with their picks.

[Mister J]

Nice case of jetlag the 'Skins brought with them today.

[Final Night]

I was really pulling for the 'Skins here, but it's not looking good.

[BlackLantern]

seattle just seems more prepared....and washington can get beat down for all I care

[Final Night]

seattle just seems more prepared....and washington can get beat down for all I care

I like Joe Gibbs & Randle El. I was really feeling for them with the Sean Taylor death. I was hoping they'd at least get out of the first round.

[BlackLantern]

I like Joe Gibbs & Randle El. I was really feeling for them with the Sean Taylor death. I was hoping they'd at least get out of the first round.

yes the sean taylor thing was tragic...has nothing to do with the playoffs though....

[Final Night]

yes the sean taylor thing was tragic...has nothing to do with the playoffs though....

Well, that's true. I'm just a sucker for the "Feel Good" story.

[BlackLantern]

Well, that's true. I'm just a sucker for the "Feel Good" story.

and because you probably have a vagina.....j/k:oldrazz:

[Final Night]

and because you probably have a vagina.....j/k

:hehe:

Looks like 'Skins are going to pull ahead...

[Mister J]

Well, that turned around quickly.

[NewYorkSpider]

The momentum of this game changed fast.

[Mister J]

That might have been the furthest onside kick ever.

[Cmill216]

*sigh*

[Alex The Great]

noooo.......come on washington....do it for sean :cmad: :csad:

[BlackLantern]

I really think its better off if washington bows out now....who wants to see them get smashed by Dallas or Green Bay??

[Alex The Great]

They deserve it :cmad:

don't back down! STAND AND FIGHT! :cmad::up:

[BlackLantern]

nobody deserves anything come the playoffs....you earn it.....someone getting shot doesnt get you a free pass to the Super Bowl....you think any other NFC team is going to not play as hard because they feel bad for washington....**** NO they wont....play football win game

[NewYorkSpider]

I really think its better off if washington bows out now....who wants to see them get smashed by Dallas or Green Bay??

Washington played Dallas very well this season during their two meetings. If they win that's who they play. They also lossed by 3 at Green Bay. I highly doubt they'd get smashed.

[Alex The Great]

amen. but they do deserve it though. they fought HARD to get in. the pats were a lock after week 3. but if they win then well done.

Pats get Number 7 overall draft pick...mercy.....i say get some defense this year. make some tweaks to the OL. even a slight TOUCH to the WR,RB,QB core and i'll give em hell :cmad:

Mauroney should stay with NE. he's not complaining about the PASS all the time offense. Plenty of RB's would. don't get Mcfadden. get a DLine man or something.

[BlackLantern]

Dallas had people sitting in the second game.....Im not saying washington isnt a good team, but they arent a championship team

[Alex The Great]

Washington played Dallas very well this season during their two meetings. If they win that's who they play. They also lossed by 3 at Green Bay. I highly doubt they'd get smashed.
you bring a good point NYS

[BlackLantern]

TD seahawks.... go seattle....we dont need 3 nfc east teams in the later rounds.....

[Alex The Great]

cmon redskins

[BlackLantern]

qwest is loud as **** and Im watching it on TV...

[NewYorkSpider]

I really don't understand why Washington would take a deep ball like that. The short passes have been working great the second half. With less than 6 minutes to go and down by 7, you really didn't need to take a risk like that.

[NewYorkSpider]

qwest is loud as **** and Im watching it on TV...

I believe it's the loudest stadium in the NFL. I could be mistaken though.

[BlackLantern]

I first thought collins got hit while he threw it...I guess he was really shootin the moon on that one

[Matt]

I really don't understand why Washington would take a deep ball like that. The short passes have been working great the second half. With less than 6 minutes to go and down by 7, you really didn't need to take a risk like that.

Skins need to fire their Offensive Coordinator. He's been making some really questionable calls all day.

[Alex The Great]

yeah. Do some west coast offense. not VERTICAL. West Coast. Pass fast. run out the clock, get the score with like....a second left or something. KEPP the ball

EDT: *looks at score* oy...i take that back.

[NewYorkSpider]

Redskins will make another mistake and this game will be over with. Collins will be in panic mode and a pass will get INT.

[Alex The Great]

yeah. they need to get a rookie QB this off-season

[Matt]

On a side note, how great is it to see so much coaching talent on the field. No one really talks about it, but Mike Holmgram and Joe Gibbs are two of the all time greats. Such an amazing coaching match up.

[Alex The Great]

On a side note, how great is it to see so much coaching talent on the field. No one really talks about it, but Mike Holmgram and Joe Gibbs are two of the all time greats. Such an amazing coaching match up.
:up:

[Matt]

What scares me about the Skins is, after next season...Ben Rothleisberger becomes eligible for free agency. Big Ben is never hesitant to confess that he plays this game for money and it is his career. The Redskins have the room to make him a really nice offer and he could be the key ingreidient their team needs to make them the new standard in the NFC.

[Matt]

And holy crap, there have been some amazing catches today, both on offense and defense!

[BlackLantern]

I think Big Ben would be a force to be reckoned with in the NFC

[Matt]

I think Big Ben would be a force to be reckoned with in the NFC

Assuming Farve would be retired by then, Big Ben would easily become the best quarterback in the NFC. If Washington can offer enough to lure him from Pittsburgh...oh man. They could be in the Super Bowl that very year.

[NewYorkSpider]

Steelers will fight hard to keep Ben. The two most key ingreidients of a team is the head coach and QB. For the Steelers to lose Cower and Rothleisburger within two seasons would be a disaster.

[Matt]

Steelers will fight hard to keep Ben. The two most key ingreidents of a team is the head coach and QB. For the Steelers to lose Cower and Rothleisburger within two seasons would be a disaster.

They would fight to keep him...but I think Washington can afford to pay him more.

[Alex The Great]

yeah. Steelers lose there superbowl winning coach and QB in 2 seasons really does suck. they'll fight. Wash will win the war though :cwink:

[Cmill216]

:huh:

The Steelers aren't going to let Ben go. He's the face of the team, the franchise QB.

[Matt]

:huh:

The Steelers aren't going to let Ben go. He's the face of the team, the franchise QB.

But can they afford to keep him? Other teams will make him offers and I think they can outbid Pittsburgh, unless he is franchise tagged, which I think will piss him off. Any time there is an interview on the local news with Ben about his future, he does not hesitate to say "I am playing football for the money. Its my job, its my career. I will go where I am paid the most." I hope I'm wrong, but Ben definitely seems like the type who would do what he can for the cash :csad:

[Cmill216]

But can they afford to keep him? Other teams will make him offers, unless he is franchise tagged, which I think will piss him off. Any time there is an interview on the local news with Ben about his future, he does not hesitate to say "I am playing football for the money. Its my job, its my career. I will go where I am paid the most." I hope I'm wrong, but Ben definitely seems like the type who would do what he can for the cash :csad:

Screw that. Pittsburgh will rob a few grandmothers if they have to. They'll find a way to keep him. How many times do you see a team let go a Pro Bowl franchise QB like him in the early prime of his career? They'll sign him, Matthew. Don't even sweat it.

[Matt]

Screw that. Pittsburgh will rob a few grandmothers if they have to. They'll find a way to keep him. How many times do you see a team let go a Pro Bowl franchise QB like him in the early prime of his career? They'll sign him, Matthew. Don't even sweat it.

Not often, but its not often that I see a franchise quarterback be so open about how money hungry he is either.

[NewYorkSpider]

The Steelers will give him the contract he wants, plus incetives. Like I said before, they can't afford to lose their franchise QB.

[Dark Donnie]

Big Ben won't be going anywhere

[LegendaryCaleb]

yeah. they need to get a rookie QB this off-season
Or...They could stick with Jason Campbell...

and Pittsburgh will not allow Big Bens Departure....Hes the Franchise QB

[Alex The Great]

The PATS will GET HIM! :cmad: :eek: :p

[Alex The Great]

Or...They could stick with Jason Campbell...

and Pittsburgh will not allow Big Bens Departure....Hes the Franchise QB
he's getting old....

[Cmill216]

he's getting old....

:dry:

[Dark Donnie]

he's like 25

[LegendaryCaleb]

he's getting old....
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7201
Born: Dec 31, 1981
Draft: 2005 - 1st round (25th pick) by the Washington Redskins
....

[Alex The Great]

oh wait. i was thinking of someone else......god...I FAIL.

[NewYorkSpider]

The Redskins can stick with Campbell for now. They can go out and get a backup for him during the offseason. Grossman or Losman is someone they can look at. Those two won't be at all pricey.

[Alex The Great]

GROSSMAN? i shudder at the thought

[NewYorkSpider]

GROSSMAN? i shudder at the thought

He would be their backup QB, not the starter. Campbell at this point is their starting QB of the future unless something drastic changes.

[LegendaryCaleb]

The Redskins can stick with Campbell for now. They can go out and get a backup for him during the offseason. Grossman or Losman is someone they can look at. Those two won't be at all pricey.
they certainly wouldnt be bad backups...id prefer Losman...but either or

[Alex The Great]

alright kids. Who's gonna win? Jaguars or Steelers. Jason Taylor FTW :up:

[LegendaryCaleb]

I Believe I Picked Jaguars...Steelers look beat up!

[NewYorkSpider]

I have Jacksonville winning as well.

Jaguars - 27
Steelers - 21

I didn't post my score for the first game, but this is what I had.

Seattle - 21
Redskins - 13

[Alex The Great]

tied at 7.


0_0

[LegendaryCaleb]

my prediction scores are and were
Jags-24
Steelers-17
and this is what i wrote down earlier
Redskins-28
Seattle-21 :(

[BlackLantern]

I dont know where the redskins love came from??? they are a mediocre team at best....dont let the tragedy screw up your fan filter....they aint that good, were playing on emotion and that only gets you so far

[Alex The Great]

I dont know where the redskins love came from??? they are a mediocre team at best....dont let the tragedy screw up your fan filter....they aint that good, were playing on emotion and that only gets you so far
football is not only physical......it's also mental.


Football is 90% mental and 10% Physical.

[LegendaryCaleb]

I dont know where the redskins love came from??? they are a mediocre team at best....dont let the tragedy screw up your fan filter....they aint that good, were playing on emotion and that only gets you so far
i have no love for the redskins..?
i put the frown face cuz i messed up on my prediction....the reason i picked um is because i thought theyd be alot better at running the ball and gibbs magic would start up...

[BlackLantern]

football is not only physical......it's also mental.


Football is 90% mental and 10% Physical.

I forgot you play in the NFL....and know all about what it takes to play this game.......so is posting on the Hype 90% physical and %10 mental??

[Alex The Great]

I forgot you play in the NFL....and know all about what it takes to play this game.......so is posting on the Hype 90% physical and %10 mental??

Lol.....i play madden and listen to John's quotes and stuff...lol



postin on the hype is 99% Mental and 1% physical. :cmad:

[NewYorkSpider]

I dont know where the redskins love came from??? they are a mediocre team at best....dont let the tragedy screw up your fan filter....they aint that good, were playing on emotion and that only gets you so far

6 of thier losses were decide by 8 points or less. And like I said before, they played Dallas and Green Bay very well on the road. They're way above being a mediocre team.

[Hunter Rider]

Seattle's defense was outstanding, Hasselbeck had a good 1st and 4th quarter when he needed to be big. i thought Collins/Moss mini spell was gonna turn the game though.

[BlackLantern]

6 of thier losses were decide by 8 points or less. And like I said before, they played Dallas and Green Bay very well on the road. They're way above being a mediocre team.

a Loss is still a loss....I think they are OK, but Joe Gibbs, if he sticks around has a lot of work to do come off season.

as a Giants fan, I can only hope Coughlin gets the boot if/when they lose....

[Mister J]

Hunter! :eek:

Wait, did I get drunk and go into the futbol thread by mistake again? :huh:

:hehe:

[Cmill216]

Seattle's defense was outstanding, Hasselbeck had a good 1st and 4th quarter when he needed to be big. i thought Collins/Moss mini spell was gonna turn the game though.

:lmao:

[NewYorkSpider]

a Loss is still a loss....I think they are OK, but Joe Gibbs, if he sticks around has a lot of work to do come off season.

as a Giants fan, I can only hope Coughlin gets the boot if/when they lose....

I think Couglin needs to take this team to the Super Bowl if he wants his job back next season. He may even have to win it. Another first round exit and he's done.

[Hunter Rider]

Hunter! :eek:

Wait, did I get drunk and go into the futbol thread by mistake again? :huh:

:hehe:

Hey I can multi sport. :oldrazz:

:lmao:

What !? :cmad:

[LegendaryCaleb]

I think Couglin needs to take this team to the Super Bowl if he wants his job back next season. He may even have to win it. Another first round exit and he's done.
i agree...he needs a miracle to keep his job...(the giants are very talented and i expect good things next year)IMO

[BlackLantern]

I think Couglin needs to take this team to the Super Bowl if he wants his job back next season. He may even have to win it. Another first round exit and he's done.

No self-respecting Giants fan wants Coughlin back next season. Can him and bring back John Fox to the organization that will happily make him the head coach as his future in Carolina is questionable

[NewYorkSpider]

i agree...he needs a miracle to keep his job...cuz hes going out in the first round IMO

I think they'll beat Tampa. Second round is questionable.

No self-respecting Giants fan wants Coughlin back next season. Can him and bring back John Fox to the organization that will happily make him the head coach as his future in Carolina is questionable

I've heard John Fox may be on his way out as head coach for Carolina. As a Panthers fan, it's a shame. I love his coaching techniques. He's a very smart coach. He's had to deal with alot of injuries the past two seasons. The guy knows how to get to a Super Bowl. It would be a great pick-up for New York if both coaches are fired.

[BlackLantern]

when John Fox left the Giants for Carolina, the Giants front office was very vocal about Fox being welcome back if he ever chose to return to the team

[Panophobia]

Go Jags!

Jags 38, Steelers 17. My prediction.