2007 NFL Thread

[Alex The Great]

GREAT GOOGLY MOOGLY! GIBBS QUIT! :eek:

now we have the ravens, the dolphins and now the skins who need HC's.

[Alex The Great]

I wonder wut'll happen to the Offensive Coordinater........After this season he should be promoted! so...yeah....that's just my opinion but w/e

[Fran]

That's what should happen... and what is rumored to be happening.

[Hunter Rider]

FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN MY PLAYOFF POOL: DON'T FORGET TO TURN IN YOUR DIVISIONAL PLAYOFF GAME PICKS VIA P.M. TO ME BY SATURDAY MORNING!

:up::cmad:

[Alex The Great]

heh. speaking of OC's. wut of the Patriots OC? I sense promotion there to......but that's IMO.



This Off season will be interesting...with HC openings witha few teams it'll be interesting to see who goes where...*awaits JOHN MADDEN to announce he is leaving retirment* :oldrazz:

[Fran]

:cmad:

:huh:

heh. speaking of OC's. wut of the Patriots OC? I sense promotion there to......but that's IMO.



This Off season will be interesting...with HC openings witha few teams it'll be interesting to see who goes where...*awaits JOHN MADDEN to announce he is leaving retirment* :oldrazz:

McDaniels (the Patriots OC) is not interviewing for any jobs.

[Alex The Great]

ok. maybe in a couple of years....


I wonder wut'll Happen to Patriots O line...I think we'll make some tweaks...but nothing much. Defense needs some attention though. it aint getting any younger...

[Hunter Rider]

:huh:



I'm to late to be in it, therefore i hate. :csad:

[Fran]

You would have to take a last-place tie, but I can let you in.

[Hunter Rider]

You would have to take a last-place tie, but I can let you in.

ok, spill the whole rules for me Franlicous and let me get a gander.

[Fran]

ok, spill the whole rules for me Franlicous and let me get a gander.

Basically:

1. For this week, submit me your picks by Saturday morning EST.

2. 2 points per correct pick this week (last week was just one), points double each week.

3. For the NFC and AFC title games, give me scores and winners.

4. Same for Super Bowl as 3, except for MVP included.

But for this week, all I need is your predictions of who will win the games Sat and Sun.

[Alex The Great]

Ok kiddies


Predictions for the non pick em players

NE - JACK NE 38 - 27 JACK

NYG - DAL NYG 14 - 31 DAL

SD - IND SD 27 - 31 IND

GB - SEA GB 24 - 21 SEA


BOLD IS MY PREDICTION

[Hunter Rider]

Basically:

1. For this week, submit me your picks by Saturday morning EST.

2. 2 points per correct pick this week (last week was just one), points double each week.

3. For the NFC and AFC title games, give me scores and winners.

4. Same for Super Bowl as 3, except for MVP included.

But for this week, all I need is your predictions of who will win the games Sat and Sun.

Seems easy enough, cheers Fran. :up:

[E. Nygma]

Ok kiddies


Predictions for the non pick em players

NE - JACK NE 38 - 27 JACK

NYG - DAL NYG 14 - 31 DAL

SD - IND SD 27 - 31 IND

GB - SEA GB 24 - 21 SEA


BOLD IS MY PREDICTION

Typically you wont see three games that close in a playoff game weekend. While it could happen, i think we'll see games with a wider margin of victory.

Faketriots will win, but i dont know if they score 38 on Jacksonville, a tough physical defense in a cold weather game. Jacksonville no way in hell will score 37. I think it would be more like 21-10 Patriots, 21-7, if the Jags can even muster a TD. Dont believe the hype, Jax will not win this weekend.

The Colts will win also. I dont think they'll have any problem getting to that 30 mark. But we'll see, Marvin Harrison really hasn't played full speed for a whole game in since early in the season. The Colts defense is going to give Tomlinson some problems though and the Colts will win like 31-17, 34-17 something like that.

It's hard for me to believe the Cowboys would win by that large of a margin against a team that has already seen what they run and has a relentless pass rushing defense. Especially with "Team Obliterater"s bad ankle. Does Dallas win? Probably, i think the NFC games are tougher to call than the AFC ones. I think it will be a closer game like 24-17, 27-21 though.

Now here's the hard one. Seattle-Green Bay. Brett Favre hasn't played a solid divisional playoff game in a long long time. In fact i think the last time he won a divisional playoff game was 1997 when they went to their last Super Bowl. Now he's got a home game in Lambeau in the divisional playoffs, a luxury he hasn't had in a while either. The Packers previously unbeatable in January at Lambeau have actually lost two games in recent years to the Mediocre Vikings and the Falcons when Vick took them there in 2002. Granted thus were MUCH different Packer teams, with very weak defenses. Now he's facing his old coach, his mentor, the guy who groomed him Mike Holmgren. We saw this story before the Seahawks went there on wild card weekend a few years ago and lost in over time. That was the inexperienced Seahawks playoff team going up against a playoff experienced Packer team. Hawks lost in OT on a terrible pass from Hasselbeck to Al Harris. Roles are reversed now, Hawks have the experience. Anyone who doesn't think the Seahawks have a chance in this game need to visit last years playoffs where they ALMOST and perhaps SHOULD HAVE beaten the Bears in CHICAGO. Seattle's defense is tremendous and what we saw of their offense on Sunday did not do it justice, that was a bad game by Hasselbeck. I like the Seahawks in this game, but it will be a tight one, 27-24, 28-24.

[Alex The Great]

Typically you wont see three games that close in a playoff game weekend. While it could happen, i think we'll see games with a wider margin of victory.

Faketriots will win, but i dont know if they score 38 on Jacksonville, a tough physical defense in a cold weather game. Jacksonville no way in hell will score 37. I think it would be more like 21-10 Patriots, 21-7, if the Jags can even muster a TD. Dont believe the hype, Jax will not win this weekend.

The Colts will win also. I dont think they'll have any problem getting to that 30 mark. But we'll see, Marvin Harrison really hasn't played full speed for a whole game in since early in the season. The Colts defense is going to give Tomlinson some problems though and the Colts will win like 31-17, 34-17 something like that.

It's hard for me to believe the Cowboys would win by that large of a margin against a team that has already seen what they run and has a relentless pass rushing defense. Especially with "Team Obliterater"s bad ankle. Does Dallas win? Probably, i think the NFC games are tougher to call than the AFC ones. I think it will be a closer game like 24-17, 27-21 though.

Now here's the hard one. Seattle-Green Bay. Brett Favre hasn't played a solid divisional playoff game in a long long time. In fact i think the last time he won a divisional playoff game was 1997 when they went to their last Super Bowl. Now he's got a home game in Lambeau in the divisional playoffs, a luxury he hasn't had in a while either. The Packers previously unbeatable in January at Lambeau have actually lost two games in recent years to the Mediocre Vikings and the Falcons when Vick took them there in 2002. Granted thus were MUCH different Packer teams, with very weak defenses. Now he's facing his old coach, his mentor, the guy who groomed him Mike Holmgren. We saw this story before the Seahawks went there on wild card weekend a few years ago and lost in over time. That was the inexperienced Seahawks playoff team going up against a playoff experienced Packer team. Hawks lost in OT on a terrible pass from Hasselbeck to Al Harris. Roles are reversed now, Hawks have the experience. Anyone who doesn't think the Seahawks have a chance in this game need to visit last years playoffs where they ALMOST and perhaps SHOULD HAVE beaten the Bears in CHICAGO. Seattle's defense is tremendous and what we saw of their offense on Sunday did not do it justice, that was a bad game by Hasselbeck. I like the Seahawks in this game, but it will be a tight one, 27-24, 28-24.
A. FAKTRIOTS?? :cmad:
B. Read again..... 27 JACK! not 37!
C. nice read.....kinda

[E. Nygma]

A. FAKTRIOTS?? :cmad:
B. Read again..... 27 JACK! not 37!
C. nice read.....kinda

A. Yeah!
B. Whoops typo no way in hell the Jags score 27 :woot:
C. Thanks!

[Alex The Great]

:cmad:







naw were cool.

[BlackLantern]

Lots of people seem to like Jacksonville this weekend

[Jerry!]

Lots of people also said the Steelers had no chance last weekend and were going to get blown out.

[BlackLantern]

I think Jacksonville has every aspect of their team clicking....but I'm not sure if its enough to beat Darth Sweatshirt and his Stormtroopers

[NewYorkSpider]

Uh... you are talking about things that happened last year... Coughlin is coming back that's all there is too it... he didn't even need the Buc game in most people's opinion on the air waves and I agreed. Things are different now... the team is playing well... unless they implode next year and go 6-10 and Manning digresses Coughlin will be back in 09 as well... there is a good chance he'll be out after that if he doesn't win another playoff game before then but as of now... the Giants are stuck with him. He isn't Belicheck or Parcells but then again who is? Don't give me Cowher because its a long shot that they'll get him anyways. Every team is going to make a play at Cowher.

Like I said, if the team returns to that old form(the constant criticism and lack of effort), then the Giants may regret keeping Coughlin for another season.

[Nightmare]

Whos everyones picks for this weekend?

[Mee]

I think Jacksonville has every aspect of their team clicking....but I'm not sure if its enough to beat Darth Sweatshirt and his Stormtroopers
As long as they run the ball well (meaning better than last week) and Garrard doesn't throw any dumb interceptions (like last week) and they play great defense, and the planets align, they've got a chance.

[Immortalfire]

Falcons pursuing Pete Carroll? http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/2008/01/09/carroll_0109.html

[Dark Donnie]

Falcons are pursuing everyone at this point

[jaguarr]

Falcons are pursuing everyone at this point

That's because the Falcons are desperate whores. Haha! :p

jag

[kane9321]

no way in hell pete carroll is leaving SC..to good of a job

[Immortalfire]

That's because the Falcons are desperate whores. Haha! :p

jag

Even the Raiders got a coach, surely we will.

[BlackLantern]

and anyway.....who wants to go to Atlanta??? i've been there.....I barely wanted to visit and I sure as **** wouldnt want to live there......

[jaguarr]

Even the Raiders got a coach, surely we will.

Yeah, but we still have Al Davis so it's not like it counts or anything. :(

jag

[Dark Donnie]

That's because the Falcons are desperate whores. Haha! :p

jag

haha....I think when its all said and done there going to interview about 100 canidates....hopefully they get someone good.

[Alex The Great]

Falcons coach = Mart schottenheimer :o


or maybe....GIBBS if he deosn't retire....

[Immortalfire]

and anyway.....who wants to go to Atlanta??? i've been there.....I barely wanted to visit and I sure as **** wouldnt want to live there......

http://i22.tinypic.com/rcrnfb.jpg

[Mister J]

Brady's Great, But Imagine Vintage Marino and Today's Rules (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/columns/story?columnist=chadiha_jeff&id=3186324)

Greatest Individual Seasons Since the Merger:
1. Dan Marino, Miami, 1984:
Marino used his second NFL season to terrorize opposing defenses on a weekly basis. Blessed with a quick release and a rocket right arm, he produced a season-long performance that required its own section in the league record books once he was done. Marino set NFL marks for yards (he became the first player to pass for 5,000 yards in a season with 5,084) and touchdown passes (he blew away the old mark of 36 with 48 of his own) and he led the Dolphins to a spot in that year's Super Bowl. Marino's Hall of Fame career included many great seasons but nothing ever came close to those feats.

In fact, there is one chief reason why his performance still ranks better than those produced more recently by Indianapolis' Peyton Manning and New England's Tom Brady: The rules were different. Both Manning and Brady benefited from the league's decision to penalize defenders who touched receivers more than five yards away from the line of scrimmage. If Marino had that advantage going for him, nobody would've ever matched the season he produced 24 years ago.

:heart:

2. Eric Dickerson, Los Angeles Rams, 1984
3. Peyton Manning, Indianapolis, 2004
4. Tom Brady, New England, 2007
5. LaDainian Tomlinson, San Diego, 2006
6. Jerry Rice, San Francisco, 1987
7. Lawrence Taylor, New York Giants, 1986
8. O.J. Simpson, Buffalo, 1973
9. Lester Hayes, Oakland, 1980
10. Reggie White, Philadelphia, 1987

[Duende Verde]

I hope we get to see this again on sunday:woot:

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j144/duende_verde/norvturnerdance.gif

[Mister J]

The hell? :confused:

Of course, Norv had just doubled his postseason win total. He should have been giddy.

[Jerry!]

I could never put Manning ahead of Brady. There is one reason that I don't know if it's been mentioned before, and it isn't Manning's fault. Manning knows every season he is going to get at least 8 games in which the conditions as far as weather is concerned is going to be perfect. There will be no effect on his game due to the conditions. He is going to have 8 perfect condition home games every season. Brady doesn't have that luxury. It's not Manning's fault, it is just the way it is.

[Dark Donnie]

Looks like Anderson is staying

Derek Anderson-QB-Browns Jan. 9 - 1:34 pm et

Browns GM Phil Savage said Wednesday morning that Derek Anderson will be the team's starting quarterback in 2008.

Anderson, a Pro Bowl alternate, threw 29 touchdowns and 19 interceptions in his first year as a starter. Savage feels Anderson deserves "a chance to go into the batter's box and swing for the fences next year. Our expectation is that he'll hit some home runs for us." Savage says a long-term contract is a possibility for Anderson and indicated that he's off the market in trade talks. Brady Quinn will open the season as a backup.
Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer
Related: Brady Quinn

[jaguarr]

I love that Savage used baseball metaphors to explain their decision for retaining their quarterback. Haha! :D

jag

[kane9321]

i hope the colts crush the chargers..norv turner you bastard..betrayer

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j144/duende_verde/norvturnerdance.gif[/QUOTE]

[E. Nygma]

Falcons coach = Mart schottenheimer :o


or maybe....GIBBS if he deosn't retire....

Gibbs isn't coming back, and in the extremely unlikely event that he ever does i'm SURE it will only be with the Washington Redskins.

I dont think Carroll will leave his job at USC either.

Falcons will get an NFL Coordinator of some kind. Perhaps Mike Singletary.

Redskins may go heavy after both Cowher and Carroll but i dont think they'll get either. I think Gregg Williams will end up getting the job.

[Dark Donnie]

Immortal

Falcons Offense-TM-Falcons Jan. 9 - 2:58 pm et

Sources tell ESPN's Joe Schad that Pete Caroll is interested in the Atlanta Falcons head coaching job.

They seem to have the ingredients Carroll wants from a pro team: huge money, full control of the team, and nowhere to go but up. It's surprising Arthur Blank would dip back into the college ranks, but Carroll is the biggest splash hire out there.

[Jerry!]

Fool me once...

[Dark Donnie]

Ravens Offense-TM-Ravens Jan. 9 - 5:27 pm et

Baltimore's front office reportedly has a three favorites for the head coaching job: Tony Sparano, Jason Garrett, and Marty Schottenheimer.

Team president Dick Cass reportedly likes Sparano, owner Steve Bisciotti likes Garrett and GM Ozzie Newsome Schottenheimer. "All three like Indianapolis Colts assistant coach Jim Caldwell, but no one has him as his No. 1," according to Mike Preston. Bengals coach Marvin Lewis is another possibility, but would take compensation.

[Immortalfire]

Quick, someone refresh me on Pete's NFL resume.

[Dark Donnie]

Quick, someone refresh me on Pete's NFL resume.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Carroll

D Backs coach for the Bills and Vikings 1984-1989

Defensive Coor. for The Jets 1990-1993

Head Coach of The Jets 1994-1995

Defensive Coor. for The 49ers 1995-1996

Head Coach of The Patriots 1997-1999

[Immortalfire]

Hmm...thanks.

[Immortalfire]

Falcons will get an NFL Coordinator of some kind. Perhaps Mike Singletary. .

A lot of folks here want him to coach us.

[Showtime]

I think Pete Caroll would be a good pick up for the Falcons, he thrives in a more laid back atmosphere.

[Mister J]

Carroll got a bad rap as a pro coach. None of his teams were exceptional, but he was 33-31 and only had one losing season. With that said, I don't see why he would want to leave Southern Cal.

[Fran]

Why leave USC, a team that will most likely start #1 in the AP polls, and is about to wrap up recruiting for 2008, for an Atlanta team that is pretty much in the cellar of the NFL.

[Showtime]

Carroll got a bad rap as a pro coach. None of his teams were exceptional, but he was 33-31 and only had one losing season. With that said, I don't see why he would want to leave Southern Cal.

There in lies the rub. He is bigger there than he ever will be in Atlanta, but I think the challenge of rebuilding the Falcons, the money, and maybe redemption could be driving him. I thought he was a good coach when he was with the Patriots, he was just to laid back for the media and Boston area.

[Immortalfire]

There in lies the rub. He is bigger there than he ever will be in Atlanta, but I think the challenge of rebuilding the Hawks, the money, and maybe redemption could be driving him. I thought he was a good coach when he was with the Patriots, he was just to laid back for the media and Boston area.

Falcons.

Edit: Dang Bob, you're faster than Sonic the Hedgehog playing running back for the Georgia Bulldogs against Tech in November when the snow don't fall.

[Showtime]

Falcons.

Edit: Dang Bob, you're faster than Sonic the Hedgehog playing running back for the Georgia Bulldogs against Tech in November when the snow don't fall.

I was actually practicing typing with my mind, so I guess the bird thing through it off yo.

I think if you guys pick up Pete Carroll, and draft Matt Ryan, you are on your way to rebuilding.

On a side note, I just went 16-0 in Madden with the Patriots and am playing the Falcons in the Superbowl.

[Immortalfire]

I also want us to ditch Warrick Dunn. Love him to death, but he's really slowing down..bad.

http://www.djshockley.com/multimedia/ssp_images/DJ.jpg Make Shockley our QB..that alone would do wonders for morale, and the fan base to have a hometowner leading the way. That is, should he prove to do well in the pros.
Pump up the O-line, and get some big boy tackles on D.

[FaT_tONle]

My God... I am sick of this Tony Romo to freakin Cabo with Jessica Simpson garbage... Sportscenter is spending two segments on this garabage? Its a joke... but Tony my man... get rid of that ****... damn... just date a normal freaking girl and you won't have to worry about this ***** again.

[Immortalfire]

My God... I am sick of this Tony Romo to freakin Cabo with Jessica Simpson garbage... Sportscenter is spending two segments on this garabage? Its a joke... but Tony my man... get rid of that ****... damn... just date a normal freaking girl and you won't have to worry about this ***** again.

Oh good grief.

[FaT_tONle]

Oh good grief.

This is what ESPN has become... first they show us five snap shots of the pics that popped up on the Net... then they show a FULL MINUTE STRAIGHTof Jessica Simpson highlights at the Eagle game earlier in the year... what the hell are these producers doing? Seriously... there has got to be something else to talk about... that's why I wish the NBA got popular again... right now I don't watch the NBA but if it did become half of what it was in the 90's we'd have something to talk about Tues-Thursday other than steroids in baseball... God I can't imagine how bad February is going to be...

[Jerry!]

Does anyone really care? I don't. Yeah they will talk about it on Sportscenter and other shows, but I'm not going to let it bother me. Talking about soccer, NASCAR or, god forbid, golf bothers me a helluva lot more more than them talking about Jessica Simpson. Once Dallas loses somewhere in the playoffs, you won't be hearing about it anymore. Unfortunately, everything else I listed you will be hearing about. Forever.

[FaT_tONle]

Talking about soccer, NASCAR or, god forbid, golf bothers me a helluva lot more more than them talking about Jessica Simpson.

That's the problem... we are moving to a situation where the NFL is the only National sport... we gotto get out of that... the NBA has done a terrible job the last few years promoting itself...the majority of people in the North East expect Celtic fans (only now though) don't follow the sport even closely... its a problem for general sports fans like me... Hockey will never be what it is in Canada here in the U.S... Stern has a problem on its hands... even the national sporting stations and news outlets are avoiding the NBA in their columns, stations, airwaves as much as possible... look its not a problem now because we got the greatest slate of games the NFL has ever had this week... it is just going to get painful in February.

[Mister J]

Hockey. :lmao:

The tabloid-like nature that sports reporting has taken on recently is a bit ridiculous though. Anything tangentially related to a sports figure gets mentioned as if it has some bearing on the game. You figure there's enough analysis to be done on actual news, but the silliness still gets notice. Unless Jessica and Romo got too carried away with the bedroom gymnastics, to the point where he hurt his back or arm or something, I don't really care what they do.

[Dark Donnie]

Sorry Immortal :csad:

Falcons Offense-TM-Falcons Jan. 9 - 6:42 pm et

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Pete Carroll has no interest in becoming the Falcons' next head coach.

Schefter quotes a source close to Carroll who says that Pete is "not even entertaining the idea" of going to Atlanta, and that he has similar disinterest in the opening in Washington. "It's the wrong place, the wrong time, the wrong guy," said the source. Still, Schefter thinks there's a chance Arthur Blank could make a "recruiting" trip to Los Angeles to let Carroll know just how much money he'd be willing to drop on the silver-haired Trojan.
Related: Redskins

Rams Offense-TM-Rams Jan. 9 - 7:27 pm et

The Rams received permission to interview Buccaneers assistant head coach/running backs coach Art Valero.

Rams coach Scott Linehan attempted to interview Valero for a job last season, but the Bucs refused the request as Valero still had a year left on his contract. It's thought the Rams are considering him for their offensive line coach position.
Source: pewterreport.com

Jets Offense-TM-Jets Jan. 9 - 7:07 pm et

Adam Schefter of the NFL Network reports that the New York Jets interviewed former Nebraska coach Bill Callahan for their vacant offensive line coach position.

Callahan, who was fired after a tough year at Nebraska, is still plenty respected in the NFL from his days as head coach of the Raiders team that went to the Super Bowl in 2002. He earned a reputation as an offensive mastermind in Oakland, and his arrival in New York would likely help the Jets improve their running game.


Texans Offense-TM-Texans Jan. 9 - 6:22 pm et

Texans hired Alex Gibbs as their assistant head coach and promoted Kyle Shanahan to offensive coordinator.

Great news for Houston's starting running back in 2008, whether it's Ahman Green, Ron Dayne, or the more likely player to be named later. Gibbs is the godfather of zone blocking from his Denver days and immediatley made the Falcons far better when he was there. Shanahan, the son of Mastermind, is only 28 years old.
Source: ESPN.com
Related: Ron Dayne, Ahman Green

[Jerry!]

That's the problem... we are moving to a situation where the NFL is the only National sport... we gotto get out of that... the NBA has done a terrible job the last few years promoting itself... I'll the majority of people in the North East expect Celtic fans (only now though) follow the sport even closely... its a problem for general sports fans like me... Hockey will never be what it is in Canada here in the U.S... Stern has a problem on its hands... even the national sporting stations and news outlets are avoiding the NBA in their columns, stations, airwaves as much as possible... look its not a problem now because we got the greatest slate of games the NFL has ever had this week... it is just going to get painful in February.

Look, don't expect the NBA to ever get back to what it was when Jordan was playing. That was a once in multiple lifetimes occurrence. Once he hit that last shot in the 98' Finals to win the title, the game forever changed. That shot signified the ending of an era. It will never be the same again.

But you still got baseball. That starts up soon after the Superbowl. And you can't say that baseball is losing steam, even throughout the steroid scandal. Attendance records were breaking.

[NewYorkSpider]

Falcons plan to interview Mike Smith from the Jacksonville Jaguars.


The Atlanta Falcons plan to interview Jacksonville Jaguars defensive coordinator Mike Smith in Jacksonville this week for Atlanta's head-coaching job, a person with knowledge of the situation told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
The Falcons plan to interview Smith on his home turf because the Jaguars play New England this weekend in an AFC Divisional playoff game.
Atlanta team officials also held a satellite interview last weekend with New England Patriots director of college scouting Tom Dimitroff for the Falcons soon-to-be vacated general manager's job, the person with knowledge of the interview said.


This would be a good hire for the Falcons. Mike Smith has done an outstanding job with the Jags run defense, something the Falcons have also done well with this season. Getting a defensive minded coach is something they need. Then they should draft a QB in the first round. Maybe Matt Ryan or Brian Brohm?

[Alex The Great]

intewesting....I bet the PATS OC will get some calls but he'll say no.

i'd laugh if NO ONE signed with Atlanta...lmao.

[FaT_tONle]

Look, don't expect the NBA to ever get back to what it was when Jordan was playing. That was a once in multiple lifetimes occurrence. Once he hit that last shot in the 98' Finals to win the title, the game forever changed. That shot signified the ending of an era. It will never be the same again.

But you still got baseball. That starts up soon after the Superbowl. And you can't say that baseball is losing steam, even throughout the steroid scandal. Attendance records were breaking.

I even get into March Madness... but baseball wears thin on me in July when the Mets are playing all those basements NL teams and the Yanks get on their hotstreak... its February and July that need work...

[Alex The Great]

I wonder if the Pats will get even MORE fantastic receivers.....lol http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/hyperhead.gif

[Fran]

*receivers

[Dark Donnie]

I wonder if the Pats will get even MORE fantastic receivers.....lol http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/hyperhead.gif

Nope

[Fran]

Bob Kraft always looks for a deal... none of their WRs have been paid that much, except Moss.

Stallworth will most likely be gone.

[Fran]

i'd laugh if NO ONE signed with Atlanta...lmao.

Yeah, like no NFL assistant or former head coach would say "no" to possibly having full control over a team.

[Alex The Great]

yeah. maybe draft a rookie WR.


but work on that damn Defense Bob!

[NewYorkSpider]

intewesting....I bet the PATS OC will get some calls but he'll say no.

i'd laugh if NO ONE signed with Atlanta...lmao.

Atlanta and Baltimore have asked permission to speak with Josh McDaniels. He'd be a good fit in Baltimore if he goes there.

[Alex The Great]

Yeah. After the last few seasons he's as sure as hell to get a HC job in the coming years..:up:

not this year though......

[E. Nygma]

That's the problem... we are moving to a situation where the NFL is the only National sport... we gotto get out of that... the NBA has done a terrible job the last few years promoting itself...the majority of people in the North East expect Celtic fans (only now though) don't follow the sport even closely... its a problem for general sports fans like me... Hockey will never be what it is in Canada here in the U.S... Stern has a problem on its hands... even the national sporting stations and news outlets are avoiding the NBA in their columns, stations, airwaves as much as possible... look its not a problem now because we got the greatest slate of games the NFL has ever had this week... it is just going to get painful in February.

I wouldn't worry about that.

Hockey has a great follow in MANY markets. Just not on a national level and in stupid Hockey markets like Carolina, Florida, Phoenix and California. Contraction is BADLY needed in the NHL, but it will never happen. If the NHL returned to maybe 20 teams. Having teams in the Canada markets, Detroit, Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, Buffalo, New York, New York, Pittsburgh and Minnesota they'd be fine. The talent pool would be wider and the teams more equal, and people would care.

The cup finals wouldn't have the DUCKS in it or the HURRICANES or the LIGHTING or teams that dont draw viewers.

And as powerful as the NFL, Baseball isn't going anywhere and the NBA is still a huge money making monster no matter how poorly the game is marketed with that "thug mentality" and lack of fundamentals that just turn people off.

[BlackLantern]

Pete Carroll won't leave USC ....he is basically a god there....he put that team back on the map

[Immortalfire]

Sorry Immortal :csad:

Not surprised.

[E. Nygma]

Pete Carroll won't leave USC ....he is basically a god there....he put that team back on the map

Agreed

and while the Pac 10 may be getting stronger, Carroll is still going to be in position to have the Trojans contending for the National Title or at least Pac 10's Rose Bowl bid for many years to come.

Thats certainly more success than he'll get in Atlanta, at least at the moment.

[NewYorkSpider]

I don't see Carroll leaving USC either, but if he does, he should do it now while his stock is still high.

[E. Nygma]

I don't see Carroll leaving USC either, but if he does, he should do it now while his stock is still high.

His stock will be just as high next year if USC has a healthy team and goes to the BCS title game. Worst case next year they'll probably go to the Rose Bowl again.

[NewYorkSpider]

His stock will be just as high next year if USC has a healthy team and goes to the BCS title game. Worst case next year they'll probably go to the Rose Bowl again.

I have no doubt in my mind USC will be good next year. But if they go into a slump(Which I highly doubt they will) then his stock will fall a little bit. Even if USC does bad, I still see Carroll being offered a NFL coaching job.

[BlackLantern]

In general Carroll has no reason to leave....he is a native Californian with a fantastic job in a city that idolizes the team.....and to go to Atlanta of all places....thats like going from a penthouse suite to a Motel 6

[Excel]

owens is doubtful?

[KALEL114]

owens is doubtful?
Unfortunately, yes. Luckily Glenn is looking very strong in practice this week. This is looking like it will be a very close game when you add in the injuries on both sides.

[Fran]

From what I've read regarding Carroll entertaining Atlanta's offer..

USC is rumored to be going on probation very soon due to the Reggie Bush getting that house and stuff. So, he might leave right before that is official.

[Dark Donnie]

Mush Brain

Trent Green-QB-Dolphins Jan. 10 - 10:25 am et

Trent Green reiterated Wednesday that he plans to play football in 2008.

Green says he's symptom-free after suffering a serious concussion early in the 2007 season and has been medically cleared by doctors. We suspect the Dolphins probably won't bring him back.
Source: South Florida Sun-Sentinel

[Mister J]

Dear Trent Green,

Stop. Please stop. I've enjoyed your career and wish things could have worked out better with you coming to play for my favorite team. However, you're about one blitz away from having your ability to count compromised. Just stop.

Sincerely,

J

[Showtime]

Seriously. I can't believe he would risk his health like that. He probably is all set money wise. His head might just fall off if he gets hit again.

[kane9321]

Seriously. I can't believe he would risk his health like that. He probably is all set money wise. His head might just fall off if he gets hit again.

damn can you imagine,trent going back for a pass...and his head falls off..dude:wow:

[Dark Donnie]

:o

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/12398/travis20johnson20trent20green20hou2.jpg

[Mister J]

That knee was ugly. Green looked lifeless. However, that didn't stop me from laughing at Johnson's callous, yet humorous post-game remark.
At 12:01, I had a lot of respect for Trent Green. At about 12:20, I said, '**** Trent Green'.

[Immortalfire]

He looks dead in that picture.

[Dark Donnie]

He looks dead in that picture.

He's looked like that more then once

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/12398/060910_greenkansas_hmed_2ph2.jpg

[Immortalfire]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/immortalfire/lold.jpg

[Showtime]

damn can you imagine,trent going back for a pass...and his head falls off..dude:wow:

"Green back to pass, blitz coming, wait...his head just rolled of his shoulders, but he still get's the pass off!"

He looks dead in that picture.

He's looked like that more then once

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/12398/060910_greenkansas_hmed_2ph2.jpg

Imagine him with no head.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/IronGiant29/NoHead.jpg

[Fran]

Haha, I can see the marks where his head was erased :up:

[Excel]

Trent you dumbass get yourself over at espn thats where the money is football money wont be worth jack in 20 years

[FaT_tONle]

Average life span of NFL players... 54 years... not blaming Green on that... most of these players extra caricular activities have something to do with that... but this guy is a dumbass... he just can't get football out of his system... its tough... look at guys like Vinny T... but damn Vinny was a freak of nature... Green is anything but that... he's got a hot ass wife from what I saw in the playoff game last year... I really don't know why he is doing it... hopefully whoever Parcells brings in wins the job over.

[Dark Donnie]

Darren McFadden handcuffed at piano bar

Arkansas RB Darren McFadden was handcuffed by police at a piano bar Thursday after being involved in a "pretty rowdy scene."

Uh...a piano bar? A disturbance broke out shortly after midnight at the bar and had spilled into the street. The Heisman runner-up and All American was not charged with a crime and released after merely being cuffed for a few minutes because police felt he was getting "rowdy." If McFadden declares for the NFL Draft, this shouldn't adversely affect him. Jan. 10 - 12:40 pm et


....

[Mister J]

If McFadden declares for the NFL Draft

:dry:

Yeah, and if a touchdown is scored this weekend, it'll be worth six points.

[Showtime]

Haha, I can see the marks where his head was erased :up:

That is his jugular.

[E. Nygma]

Seriously. I can't believe he would risk his health like that. He probably is all set money wise. His head might just fall off if he gets hit again.

The the same thing should be said of Zach Thomas....

[Dark Donnie]

Falcons Offense-TM-Falcons Jan. 10 - 2:54 pm et

Giants VP of player evaluation Chris Mara has withdrawn his name from consideration for the Falcons' GM vacancy.

Mara was an odd fit all along considering he's part of the family that owns half of another team. Eagles GM Tom Heckert remains the favorite for the gig
Related: Giants

:csad:

[E. Nygma]

Heckert will get the job. They interviewed him for like 10 hours on Tuesday.

[Dark Donnie]

Terrell Owens-WR-Cowboys Jan. 10 - 3:51 pm et

Terrell Owens (high ankle sprain) ran routes and caught passes in his return to Cowboys practice Thursday.

Despite media reports and Cowboys coach Wade Phillips saying Owens wasn't practicing the past two days, all the players said he was. T.O. showed no limp on Thursday, but the team may have told him not to speak with reporters. "You're not going to get anything out of me," he said when approached.

[jaguarr]

The Cowboys putting a muzzle on T.O.'s mouth where the press is concerned is smart. :up:

jag

[Bond]

Terrell Owens-WR-Cowboys Jan. 10 - 3:51 pm et

Terrell Owens (high ankle sprain) ran routes and caught passes in his return to Cowboys practice Thursday.

Despite media reports and Cowboys coach Wade Phillips saying Owens wasn't practicing the past two days, all the players said he was. T.O. showed no limp on Thursday, but the team may have told him not to speak with reporters. "You're not going to get anything out of me," he said when approached.
Good news

[kingman]

The possible greatest upset in NFL history...

:D

so99I1MtMd0

[E. Nygma]

i love ryan parkers songs.....they're all very well done. Lyrics are perfect and the music is catchy too.

[Dark Donnie]

Report: Schwartz frontrunner to replace Gibbs

NBCSports.com's Tom Curran reports Titans defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz has emerged as the front runner to replace Joe Gibbs in Washington.

A league source tells Curran that Schwartz blew the Redskins away during his interview Thursday. Schwartz runs a similar defense to current 'Skins' defensive boss Gregg Williams, so Williams will likely move on if Schwartz is hired. Schwartz still has interviews set up with Atlanta and Miami. Jan. 10 - 8:48 pm et
Source: NBCSports.com

[E. Nygma]

Uh guy,

Forgive me for passing this on to all of you, but i feel the need to:

http://1010xl.com/interviews/Sweet%20Jags%20of%20Mine%20(mix).mp3

I'm becoming more and more convinced the Jaguars will lose by 30.

[Alex The Great]

Saskatchuan Roughriders HC GREY CUP WINNER. Offered job to ATLANTA? I know NFL.COM says he's not interested. but he said on Sports centre that he'll think about it..

[Ghostvirus]

So has the NFL execs decided to just give the Pats there trophy now? Or are they still going to go through with these "playoffs".

[Memphis Slim]

Randy Moss should have gotten MVP....not Brady.

Same Brady as last year.....same offensive line..... same running backs. What's different?

3 guys.....Moss, Stalworth and Welker.

If Moss is not there, none of this is happening for Brady. No season TD pass record....no perfect season.

Welker may have caught more passes. But it's because Moss opens it up for Welker.


But Moss has too much stink on him from past problems. Everybody knows he's just one losing season away from being Mr. Hyde, once again. Too bad......he deserved it.

[Showtime]

The possible greatest upset in NFL history...

:D

so99I1MtMd0

Why is the Patriots beating the Jaguars an upset?

[NewYorkSpider]

Uh guy,

Forgive me for passing this on to all of you, but i feel the need to:

http://1010xl.com/interviews/Sweet%20Jags%20of%20Mine%20(mix).mp3

I'm becoming more and more convinced the Jaguars will lose by 30.

There was a good article on ESPN about how the Jaguars would upset the Patriots. It was a good read and had some interesting points.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/columns/story?columnist=green_jeremy&id=3187786

I still think the Pats win in a close game.

[Showtime]

Randy Moss should have gotten MVP....not Brady.

Same Brady as last year.....same offensive line..... same running backs. What's different?

3 guys.....Moss, Stalworth and Welker.

If Moss is not there, none of this is happening for Brady. No season TD pass record....no perfect season.

Welker may have caught more passes. But it's because Moss opens it up for Welker.


But Moss has too much stink on him from past problems. Everybody knows he's just one losing season away from being Mr. Hyde, once again. Too bad......he deserved it.

You realize that Brady had to throw the ball to his receivers right?

Do you honestly think Peyton Manning would have two MVPS if he didn't have Harrison and Wayne? You think he would have broken the record without them? Won the Superbowl without them? Nope he wouldn't have.

You know what is funny about that, Brady has won 3 Superbowls without Welker, Stalworth, and Moss? Funny how logic can come back to bite you.

[BlackLantern]

uncomfirmed reports say that Tom Brady can also walk on water

[Excel]

Lol Moss is way more important then Brady and here proof tht at cant be argued nor denied.

Moss has done this before. Moss has
-caught for 17 tds in a season-TWICE.
-caught for over 1600 recieving yards in a season
-averaged a touch down and 100 ypg over an entire season
-led the leagues highest scoreing offense ever (until this years Pats) as a rookie.

Brady on the otherhand, has never come close to anything like this until now when he hooked up with Moss. His previous career high in td's with 28. Give him Randy Moss and he randomly gets 50

So while they both need eachother to get say, a 100%....Moss alone gets himself 80% but Brady gets 50% at best.

Not only that but watch the games. Bradys has not thrown the best deep balls this year; contrary to popula b elief. He holds it for too long. Every deep pass should be hitting Moss in stride ala the 23/50th touchdown catch/pass or the way Peyton Manning does with Reggie Wayne. But for the most part, it is underthrown and Moss has to turn around, track it like a center fielder in baseball, ands catch against the body. Noted throws:

-the long touchdown against Buffalo 2nd game
-long pass in Indianapolis
-long touchdown against Pittsburg
-dropped long pass against NYg right before the 23rd
-both touchdown passes at Miami

He has done the same thing with Stallworth-at Indianapolis and I believe the Baltimore game-except Stallworth isnt 6'4 and cant jump or reach like Randy so the ball gets INTERCEPTED. He throws it a deep over the shoulder buts its under thrown.

Yeah, Tom is great. But lets get 1 thing straight.

1. He didnt win those Super Bowls by himself. He played well, but he was never a fantasy darling at all until this year.
2. Yeah, Peyton had Marvin and Wayne, now Brady has his. Doesnt mena he deserves MVP.

Brady had the statistically best seaon, but whose more valuable? Its Moss.

[Showtime]

uncomfirmed reports say that Tom Brady can also walk on water

You're all mixed up arent you? That is Bob Sanders.

[Showtime]

Lol Moss is way more important then Brady and here proof tht at cant be argued nor denied.

Moss has done this before. Moss has
-caught for 17 tds in a season-TWICE.
-caught for over 1600 recieving yards in a season
-averaged a touch down and 100 ypg over an entire season
-led the leagues highest scoreing offense ever (until this years Pats) as a rookie.

Brady on the otherhand, has never come close to anything like this until now when he hooked up with Moss. His previous career high in td's with 28. Give him Randy Moss and he randomly gets 50

So while they both need eachother to get say, a 100%....Moss alone gets himself 80% but Brady gets 50% at best.

Not only that but watch the games. Bradys has not thrown the best deep balls this year; contrary to popula b elief. He holds it for too long. Every deep pass should be hitting Moss in stride ala the 23/50th touchdown catch/pass or the way Peyton Manning does with Reggie Wayne. But for the most part, it is underthrown and Moss has to turn around, track it like a center fielder in baseball, ands catch against the body. Noted throws:

-the long touchdown against Buffalo 2nd game
-long pass in Indianapolis
-long touchdown against Pittsburg
-dropped long pass against NYg right before the 23rd
-both touchdown passes at Miami

He has done the same thing with Stallworth-at Indianapolis and I believe the Baltimore game-except Stallworth isnt 6'4 and cant jump or reach like Randy so the ball gets INTERCEPTED. He throws it a deep over the shoulder buts its under thrown.

Yeah, Tom is great. But lets get 1 thing straight.

1. He didnt win those Super Bowls by himself. He played well, but he was never a fantasy darling at all until this year.
2. Yeah, Peyton had Marvin and Wayne, now Brady has his. Doesnt mena he deserves MVP.

Brady had the statistically best seaon, but whose more valuable? Its Moss.

I completely disagree, there is no doubt that Moss makes Brady a better quarterback, just as Harrison makes Manning a better quarterback. The problem is that Brady won 3 Superbowls with out Moss but Moss has never won a Superbowl without Brady, therefore to me Brady is much more valuable than Moss. Do you think that the Patriots would have won this year with Matt Cassel at quarterback? You are right Moss makes Brady better, but you are failing to realize that Brady makes Moss better.

[Mister J]

Randy Moss should have gotten MVP....not Brady.
Is this the same Randy Moss that you said only put up his numbers in Minnesota because he played in the NFC or "the AFC's weaker sister" and the same Randy Moss that you said would likely be a glorified decoy this year? :confused: :o

Lol Moss is way more important then Brady
Really? Start Matt Cassel for the rest of the season and see how close New England gets to a Super Bowl.

This is Moss' first season worth anything since 2003. If I didn't know what a lazy ass, quitting baby Randy can be when he wants, I'd swear Brady resuscitated his career.

Brady's stats never popped off the page like this year, but it's not like he was pedestrian before. The rating has been good and he led the league in passing yards back in 2005.

It's nice to play with the numbers, but what it comes down to is, if you take Moss out of the lineup, the Patriots are still an elite team, capable of challenging for the title. We've all seen that happen with jokers like Brown, Gaffney, Caldwell, Givens, Patten and Branch (none of whom is really worth a damn) flanked out wide. If you take Tom Brady from under center, NE ain't challenging for jack and might not even make the playoffs. That's value.

[jaguarr]

uncomfirmed reports say that Tom Brady can also walk on water

The person who started that rumor simply saw Brady waterskiing in the offseason. :whatever:

jag

[BlackLantern]

You're all mixed up arent you? That is Bob Sanders.

my apologies.....I was under the impression Bob Sanders actually invented water

[Immortalfire]

The creation of water was suggested to God by Bob Sanders.

[kane9321]

Randy Moss should have gotten MVP....not Brady.

Same Brady as last year.....same offensive line..... same running backs. What's different?

3 guys.....Moss, Stalworth and Welker.

If Moss is not there, none of this is happening for Brady. No season TD pass record....no perfect season.

Welker may have caught more passes. But it's because Moss opens it up for Welker.


But Moss has too much stink on him from past problems. Everybody knows he's just one losing season away from being Mr. Hyde, once again. Too bad......he deserved it.

shut up

[Showtime]

my apologies.....I was under the impression Bob Sanders actually invented water

He did, but right after that, he walked on it.

The creation of water was suggested to God by Bob Sanders.

Bob Sanders was actually sweating from building the Great Pyramid's by himself and the water created the Red Sea.

[Showtime]

Is this the same Randy Moss that you said only put up his numbers in Minnesota because he played in the NFC or "the AFC's weaker sister" and the same Randy Moss that you said would likely be a glorified decoy this year? :confused: :o

Really? Start Matt Cassel for the rest of the season and see how close New England gets to a Super Bowl.

This is Moss' first season worth anything since 2003. If I didn't know what a lazy ass, quitting baby Randy can be when he wants, I'd swear Brady resuscitated his career.

Brady's stats never popped off the page like this year, but it's not like he was pedestrian before. The rating has been good and he led the league in passing yards back in 2005.

It's nice to play with the numbers, but what it comes down to is, if you take Moss out of the lineup, the Patriots are still an elite team, capable of challenging for the title. We've all seen that happen with jokers like Brown, Gaffney, Caldwell, Givens, Patten and Branch (none of whom is really worth a damn) flanked out wide. If you take Tom Brady from under center, NE ain't challenging for jack and might not even make the playoffs. That's value.

You want to be friends?

[Dark Donnie]

Owens: 'Getcha popcorn ready, I'll play'

Terrell Owens (ankle) told NFL Network's Deion Sanders that he'll play in the Divisional Round "at a high level" against the Giants.

"Getcha popcorn ready," he said confidently. Owens' practice participation was listed as "limited" on Thursday, but coach Wade Phillips grinned while saying T.O. only took part in "some" team work. It'll be a shock if Owens is inactive. Jan. 10 - 7:07 pm et


:word:

[Mister J]

You want to be friends?
Normally, because you're a Patriots fan, I'd challenge the capacity of this site's censor in response, but if you're right about JLA falling through, we can talk about it. :up:
Owens: 'Getcha popcorn ready, I'll play' I'm not surprised T.O. is going to play, he was in worse condition before Super Bowl. He can be an insecure and selfish ass, but the man has always been a gamer. However, IIRC, the last time he made that 'popcorn' reference, the Cowboys got their ass whipped. I would have gone with something different.

[Showtime]

Normally, because you're a Patriots fan, I'd challenge the capacity of this site's censor in response, but if you're right about JLA falling through, we can talk about it. :up:


I'm suprisingly content with your answer. :cwink:

[Immortalfire]

He did, but right after that, he walked on it.



Bob Sanders was actually sweating from building the Great Pyramid's by himself and the water created the Red Sea.

The parting of the Red Sea was caused by a Bob Sanders sneeze.

[Showtime]

The parting of the Red Sea was caused by a Bob Sanders sneeze.

Legend has it, that was the first and only time Bob ever sneezed.

[Dark Donnie]

Chad Johnson hints at trade demand

Chad Johnson said on ESPN's Mike and Mike show Friday that he feels he was mistreated by the Bengals' organization last season.

"I was labeled selfish and a cancer, and it hurt," he said. "Fingers were pointed at me this year. If the team and the organization wants to further itself, I think you need to get rid of the problem. It hurt me. To do me that way and not to have my back. Things were said, and nobody came to my defense." That's pretty close to a trade demand. The situation between Johnson and the Bengals is set up to get ugly this offseason. Jan. 11 - 4:58 pm et
Source: Cincinnati Enquirer

[Showtime]

He'll probably end up with the Patriots...

[Immortalfire]

He'll probably end up with the Patriots...

lol

[Cmill216]

Chad's going to look awfully good in pewter and blood red.

[Hunter Rider]

Do we know if T.O is definitely playing tomorrow ?

[Dark Donnie]

Slim

Colts Defense-TM-Colts Jan. 11 - 5:26 pm et

The Indianapolis Star's Bob Kravitz believes Colts coach Tony Dungy will retire after the season.

Kravitz says this isn't a report, but points out several reasons why he thinks Dungy will call it quits. It won't be a surprise if it happens. Dungy has considered retiring after the previous three seasons and nearly called it quits after last year's Super Bowl win. If he goes, Jim Caldwell and Ron Meeks are the top in-house candidates to replace him.

[Dark Donnie]

Do we know if T.O is definitely playing tomorrow ?

Im going to say he plays

Terrell Owens-WR- Cowboys Jan. 11 - 2:51 pm et


Terrell Owens (ankle) was "limited" in Cowboys practice Friday and is listed as questionable to play in the Divisional Round.

"I'm good. See ya Sunday," Owens said when asked about his high ankle sprain Friday. T.O. has practiced the last two days and will likely start and play extensively against the Giants.
Source: Dallas Morning News

[\S/JcDc\S/]

There was a brief blurb on either ESPN 2 or FNC where they mentioned a possibility of Chad Johnson and Donovan Mcnabb to Atlanta.

[LegendaryCaleb]

There was a brief blurb on either ESPN 2 or FNC where they mentioned a possibility of Chad Johnson and Donovan Mcnabb to Atlanta.
wow...that would be beyond cool for the Falcons.

[Alex The Great]

He'll probably end up with the Patriots...
Tom Brady + Randy Moss + Chad Johnson = http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w161/thekidjj/lombardi_trophy.gif X 2

[Alex The Great]

Slim
really? lots of coaches retiring/quiting this year....

[Venom'sDad]

Chad may end up in Minnesota, Balitimore, San Fran, Atlanta, Oakland, Ten, and Miami. those are the teams that had express interest in him. I'm sure there's more....

Donovan isn't going anywhere.... as obnoxious Philly fans can be, Management wont get equal or greater value, so they are not stupid. Chad should go there, but given Philly cheap a$$ having not express any interest in him, yet, says alot....... we'll see.

[Alex The Great]

Yeah. Chad would be a nice fit for.....Baltimore or Miami or something. Pats might have a go but i doubt it.

so if Tony is retiring that means....

MIAMI
ATLANTA
WASHINGTON
INDIONAPOLIS
BALTIMORE


this off season will be fun! http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/hyperhead.gif

[Fran]

If Tony retires from coaching, he isn't coming to another team. :dry:

God, you've gotta read up on things.

St. Louis has a coach already.

[BlackLantern]

McNabb should go the rest of his contract in Philly....then leave and go to Chicago....he would be a lot more appreciated there

[E. Nygma]

Chad may end up in Minnesota, Balitimore, San Fran, Atlanta, Oakland, Ten, and Miami. those are the teams that had express interest in him. I'm sure there's more....

Donovan isn't going anywhere.... as obnoxious Philly fans can be, Management wont get equal or greater value, so they are not stupid. Chad should go there, but given Philly cheap a$$ having not express any interest in him, yet, says alot....... we'll see.

The Eagles aren't cheap, they just spend money foolishly. Instead of investing in a true number on receiver they sign a guy like Kevin Curtis who was very productive but hardly a Terrell Owens type.

Joe Banner pretty much clarified both Donovan McNabb and Andy Reid would be back next year. With Reid back, McNabb will most certainly be back. Unless some INCREDIBLE deal is offered for him, but i doubt they'd even get a first rounder.

[Alex The Great]

*yawn* is it the superbowl yet?

[Kelly]

Amen....

[Alex The Great]

Come on New England! 17-0!!!!!

[Showtime]

The Eagles aren't cheap, they just spend money foolishly. Instead of investing in a true number on receiver they sign a guy like Kevin Curtis who was very productive but hardly a Terrell Owens type.

Joe Banner pretty much clarified both Donovan McNabb and Andy Reid would be back next year. With Reid back, McNabb will most certainly be back. Unless some INCREDIBLE deal is offered for him, but i doubt they'd even get a first rounder.

I think the Eagles are better served cutting the ties with both of them, but that is just me.

[Excel]

McNabb is a beast. Get him some recievers and hell put up MVP sized numbers Im telling you. If moss leaves the only team Id want to see him on is Phily.

I completely disagree, there is no doubt that Moss makes Brady a better quarterback, just as Harrison makes Manning a better quarterback. The problem is that Brady won 3 Superbowls with out Moss but Moss has never won a Superbowl without Brady, therefore to me Brady is much more valuable than Moss. Do you think that the Patriots would have won this year with Matt Cassel at quarterback? You are right Moss makes Brady better, but you are failing to realize that Brady makes Moss better.

No I realize that...but Moss has a bigger impact on Brady then Brady does on Moss, atleast numberwise and that cant be denied.

And Brady didnt win those super bowls by himself. Hes a qb-he plays offense, he doesnt control the defense which won them championships. Dont discredit the players that won those games by saying "Tom Brady won them" because winning a super bowl is a 110% team effort, dont believe me ask Trent Dilfer how the hell he won one.

Moss has been part the greatest offenses ever which as a wide reciever, is all he has any control over. Same for Brady. I dont see anybody blaming Brady for the Pats blowing it Indy. Brady needed help to win those Super Bowl on the other side of ball, Help Moss's team obviously needed and Randy couldnt control.

Would they have won this year with Cassel? Honestly...yes. 16-0 hell no, but playoff bound. Showtime your smart; watch the film. Just watch the film. More often than not, Moss is doing the bulk of the work. Obviously Brady has to throw it, but the throws are FAR from perfect, and thats not deniable. Im sick of people saying it takes "skill" to trhow a jump ball for Moss.

Hmm. You take the football and throw it high above everybody and let your 6'4 wid eout with freakish ups and even freakier longer arms and hall of fame worthy hands jump up and catch the ball. Or, you throw the ball as far down the field as possible and let him run past everybody and then out jump everybody and "Moss" them for the catch.

Dont buy it, Hes tried to the same thing with other recievers. He tried it twice this year going deep for Stallworth and 2 times hes gotten picked because he ****in underthrows the ball and Donte dont have the ups to get it.

Thats why the throws dont work unless he throws them to Randy, because donte Jabor and Wes cant do what he does. Like I said.

Bradys career high in td's: 28
Bradys tds with Moss: 50

Moss career high in td's: 17
Moss tds with Brady: 23

They obviously help each other, but Moss impact on Brady is far bigger, on the field at least. Brady has been great, and this year proved he needs a great reciever to be amazing. But Randy has been amazing, and he didnt need a great qb to do it (Cunningham, Culpepper).

[LegendaryCaleb]

im cheering for the cowboys...but...*sigh* cowboy fans over here are...bored lol
wMUcN8bk85k
qFgBvWpymYs

[Jerry!]

McNabb is a beast. Get him some recievers and hell put up MVP sized numbers Im telling you. If moss leaves the only team Id want to see him on is Phily.



No I realize that...but Moss has a bigger impact on Brady then Brady does on Moss, atleast numberwise and that cant be denied.

And Brady didnt win those super bowls by himself. Hes a qb-he plays offense, he doesnt control the defense which won them championships. Dont discredit the players that won those games by saying "Tom Brady won them" because winning a super bowl is a 110% team effort, dont believe me ask Trent Dilfer how the hell he won one.

Moss has been part the greatest offenses ever which as a wide reciever, is all he has any control over. Same for Brady. I dont see anybody blaming Brady for the Pats blowing it Indy. Brady needed help to win those Super Bowl on the other side of ball, Help Moss's team obviously needed and Randy couldnt control.

Would they have won this year with Cassel? Honestly...yes. 16-0 hell no, but playoff bound. Showtime your smart; watch the film. Just watch the film. More often than not, Moss is doing the bulk of the work. Obviously Brady has to throw it, but the throws are FAR from perfect, and thats not deniable. Im sick of people saying it takes "skill" to trhow a jump ball for Moss.

Hmm. You take the football and throw it high above everybody and let your 6'4 wid eout with freakish ups and even freakier longer arms and hall of fame worthy hands jump up and catch the ball. Or, you throw the ball as far down the field as possible and let him run past everybody and then out jump everybody and "Moss" them for the catch.

Dont buy it, Hes tried to the same thing with other recievers. He tried it twice this year going deep for Stallworth and 2 times hes gotten picked because he ****in underthrows the ball and Donte dont have the ups to get it.

Thats why the throws dont work unless he throws them to Randy, because donte Jabor and Wes cant do what he does. Like I said.

Bradys career high in td's: 28
Bradys tds with Moss: 50

Moss career high in td's: 17
Moss tds with Brady: 23

They obviously help each other, but Moss impact on Brady is far bigger, on the field at least. Brady has been great, and this year proved he needs a great reciever to be amazing. But Randy has been amazing, and he didnt need a great qb to do it (Cunningham, Culpepper).

Brady does so much more to impact the game than just throw as far as he can to Moss. You have some really crazy theories man.

[Dark Donnie]

McNabb should go the rest of his contract in Philly....then leave and go to Chicago....he would be a lot more appreciated there

Thats two-three years down the road

[Dark Donnie]

really? lots of coaches retiring/quiting this year....

It was quoted for Slim...Colts fan

[Dark Donnie]

Chad may end up in Minnesota, Balitimore, San Fran, Atlanta, Oakland, Ten, and Miami. those are the teams that had express interest in him. I'm sure there's more....

Donovan isn't going anywhere.... as obnoxious Philly fans can be, Management wont get equal or greater value, so they are not stupid. Chad should go there, but given Philly cheap a$$ having not express any interest in him, yet, says alot....... we'll see.

Where at the cap every year:huh: We may not spend our money smart but we spend it

[E. Nygma]

I think the Eagles are better served cutting the ties with both of them, but that is just me.

Many agree, but the Eagles FO isn't ready to move on yet. I'd say with confidence that NEXT season will be McNabb's final one however.

[Dark Donnie]

Report: Colts offer Dungy perks to stay on

In a bid to keep Tony Dungy after this season, team owner Jim Irsay has offered the coach increased flexibility with his job.

Odd story to be coming out a day before a playoff game. Dungy's children have enrolled in Tampa-area schools and the team clearly believes he may be leaning towards quitting. Irsay is offering three-to-four months away during the offseason, and use of Irsay's private plane for family events. Dungy says he'll take a few days after the season to make a decision. Jan. 12 - 2:23 pm et
Source: ESPN.com

[Alex The Great]

going from indy to tampa back and forth all the time + goiung to different cities across the country for NFL games can be a stress IMO. i think he's gonna hang up the head phones. at least. that's what i think..NO FLAMING FRAN! :cmad: :oldrazz:

[E. Nygma]

Well, Tony won his super bowl. He's been around long enough and certainly made enough of a career for himself that with a Super Bowl win capping his career as a highlight he is ready to go off into the sunset. I could see him quitting, because with the death of his son James realism might have set in that football isn't life, and it may be time for him to retire and devote time to his family. After all he really has nothing to prove.

[Venom'sDad]

Where at the cap every year:huh: We may not spend our money smart but we spend it

Philly has been way under the cap for the pass two seasons and 7 of the last 8. What are you talking about? :confused: That's the very reason why Donovan has been running off the mouth about Philly needing to spend money and get some "playmakers".

[Alex The Great]

so ummm.....who do u think is a candidate for Indy if Tony retires?

Carrol would love to work with Peyton Manning :up:

[Dark Donnie]

Philly has been way under the cap for the pass two seasons and 7 of the last 8. What are you talking about? :confused: That's the very reason why Donovan has been running off the mouth about Philly needing to spend money and get some "playmakers".

Isn't the NFL salary cap at 109 Mil?

2007 Eagles 100,807,309

not including players they extended in season.

[E. Nygma]

Isn't the NFL salary cap at 109 Mil?

2007 Eagles 100,807,309

not including players they extended in season.

eaglescap.com

[Alex The Great]

are you ready for some divisional playoff football????

[Mister J]

Gametime at the frozen tundra, *****es! :cmad: :up:

[Dark Donnie]

Both Branch and Hackett are active

[Alex The Great]

cool. it's teh ICE BOWL!

[Alex The Great]

injury already?? hahah.

[Alex The Great]

hahaha. off the feild due to injury....on the opeing kick off....hehe

EDIT: FUMBLE!!!!!

[Alex The Great]

7-0 Seattle after 20 second.....hah

[Mister J]

Goodness, Green Bay. Another fumble?

[Hunter Rider]

:applaud

[Alex The Great]

Dear sweet god....ANOTHER FUMBLE???!!!!! :lmao:

:dry:

[Alex The Great]

l:dry:l

[Alex The Great]

Dear Green Bay...

To win the game. you have to keep the ball on offense. i know this seems impossible but it's actually quite easy. you HOLD ON TO THE BALL!!!! :cmad:


thank you.

[Ironhorse75]

Where is Mike Hart when you need him.

[Dark Donnie]

Ryan Grant :(

[Alex The Great]

:cmad: :cmad: :cmad: Damn CHEESEHEADS! :cmad: :cmad: :cmad:




:csad:

[samurai black]

Dear sweet god....ANOTHER FUMBLE???!!!!! :lmao:

:dry:

Inexperience, green bay has an overabundance

[Dark Donnie]

:applaud

:cmad: I picked The Packers

[Alex The Great]

Ryan Grant :(
LVP :o:up:

[samurai black]

This is about to ugly real fast

[Hunter Rider]

Awesome TD!!!!:woot:

[Alex The Great]

14- :dry: seahawks.



oh wait a min. challenge.

EDIT: nvm. 14-:dry: seahawks.

[Mister J]

I though GB's relative youth might be a factor, but was more taken by the home field advantage.

There's still plenty of time left, but they've got to stop stinking it up.

[Alex The Great]

lol. MCARTHY says his team is ready to play......:o

[Mister J]

Hell, I'm ready to play. That doesn't mean I'd be any good out there though. :o

[NewYorkSpider]

I picked Seattle to win this game.

[Alex The Great]

wtf? There STILL USING RYAN GRANT??? :o


i give him a quarter then he grab some bench

[Dark Donnie]

Immortal

Falcons hire Patriots staffer to be GM

The Falcons hired Patriots director of college scouting Thomas Dimitroff to be their next general manager.

Dimitroff was with the Patriots for six seasons and reported directly to Scott Pioli. He's known for his scouting acumen, but it's surprising that he got the nod over an experienced candidate like Tom Heckertt. This hire will invite speculation that Dimitroff could make a run at Patriots coordinator Josh McDaniels at the end of the playoffs. Jan. 12 - 4:52 pm et
Source: Boston Globe

Big News

[Dark Donnie]

wtf? There STILL USING RYAN GRANT??? :o


i give him a quarter then he grab some bench

Despite the fumbles he has been great this year for them....hes the only effective runner they have.

[Hunter Rider]

:cmad: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon13.gif

[Alex The Great]

Immortal



Big News
:up: Give him back YOU WHORES! :cmad:
Despite the fumbles he has been great this year for them....hes the only effective runner they have.
REALLY? OH WELL....

oops. damn caps.

TOUCH DOWN PACKERS!

[Alex The Great]

:cmad: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon13.gif
:cmad::up:

[Dark Donnie]

:up: Give him back YOU WHORES! :cmad:

REALLY? OH WELL....

oops. damn caps.

TOUCH DOWN PACKERS!

Yeah....I think he began to start in week 9...he led the NFC in rushing from then to the end of the season.

[The Game]

WTF is Matt doing?

[Alex The Great]

FUMBLE!!! oh wait

[samurai black]

I think Green Bay has gotten the jitters out now, good defenseive stop.

[Hunter Rider]

Hasselbeck is looking flustered, come on Matt!

[Alex The Great]

ALMOST picked off

[Dark Donnie]

Falcons Defense-TM-Falcons Jan. 12 - 5:02 pm et

The Falcons are reportedly interested in Monte Kiffin as their defense coordinator.

This news came before the Falcons hired Thomas Dimitroff to be their GM. D imitroff may prefer to hire a coach that uses the 3-4 defense. Kiffin also may be using a division rival to raise his contract offer from Tampa.
Source: ESPN.com Insider

:word:

[Kelly]

:woot: I love football in the ugly........

Damn, Seahawks almost intercepted that...

[Alex The Great]

yeah....co for OC's and DC's......HC DAMN IT! :cmad: :whatever: :o :dry: :csad:

[samurai black]

Thats certainly a 1st down. he extended bf hs knees hit the ground

[Alex The Great]

yep. first down indeed. :up:


if it aint i'll.........wet my TOM BRADY JERSEY! :cmad: :csad: :o

[Alex The Great]

yep......first down :up:

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon13.gif

[E. Nygma]

:word:

Certainly a great choice, Monte is one of the all time great defensive coordinators. But i heard Monte is more interested in retiring then coming back to even coach the Bucs defense, so i cant see him going to Atlanta unless Blank really opens his check book.

[Alex The Great]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon13.gif
:up:

[Alex The Great]

Brett is throwin it today! :word:

[Alex The Great]

ANOTHER first down :word::up:

[Kelly]

touchdown

[Alex The Great]

touchdown!!!!

[Hunter Rider]

:csad:

[E. Nygma]

Pack claws their way back in it, not over yet though. I still like Seattle to win.

[Alex The Great]

haha lol

POST 1: TOUCH DOWN!
POST 2: TOUCH DOWN!
POST 3: :csad:

:lmao:


14-14

we got a game on our hands :woot::up:

[The Game]

Lets Go Shhehawks

[Alex The Great]

Yeah.....Lets Go Shhehawks



but what about the SEAHAWKS???!!!! :cmad: :oldrazz:

[The Game]

Yeah.....Lets Go Shhehawks



but what about the SEAHAWKS???!!!! :cmad: :oldrazz:

Never heard of them!!! :woot:

[samurai black]

Gentlemen, due to the lack of good defense (28 pts in 1 quarter) we now have ourselves a game!

[Alex The Great]

wooooo!!!!!!!!!!


FUMBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Alex The Great]

Never heard of them!!! :woot:
YES YOU HAVE!


FROM THE HEAD SON! :cmad:

[Alex The Great]

down 14 and now a head by a touch down....:woot::up:

[Ironhorse75]

21 unanswered, I bet the Seahawks weren't expecting that anymore than the Packers did them going 14-0.

[Alex The Great]

heh. this is gonna be a fun game! :grin: '

[E. Nygma]

21 unanswered, I bet the Seahawks weren't expecting that anymore than the Packers did them going 14-0.

Seahawks defense has been disappointing to say the least.

[The Game]

Yikes!!!!!!!!!

[Alex The Great]

hard hit there. i thought that was gonan be picked off.....

[samurai black]

"That's why they call them STRONG Safeties" lol

[E. Nygma]

Hawks should have gone for it there, luckily they got a penalty.

[samurai black]

What a cheap way to get a 1st down

[Alex The Great]

:cmad:

[Immortalfire]

Oooh lookit all the snow :wow:

[Alex The Great]

let it snow let it snow....

[Mister J]

Nice of the Packers to finally show up.

Seattle's receivers look to be hearing footsteps in the secondary. A little case of the dropsies.

[Alex The Great]

it's the snow...:oldrazz:

[E. Nygma]

Nice of the Packers to finally show up.

Seattle's receivers look to be hearing footsteps in the secondary. A little case of the dropsies.

Certainly on that last drive....

[Mister J]

They were catching the ball just fine until the Packers DB blasted Pollard and Engram.

[E. Nygma]

The Seahawk run defense is just getting gashed and when Favre throws he has all day to do so. They've missed several tackles today. I dont know if it's the snow, but this is very uncharacteristic of that team.

[Alex The Great]

:woot::up:

[samurai black]

ok, the packers are now moving the ball pretty easily, where the hell is patrick kearney?

[E. Nygma]

ok, the packers are now moving the ball pretty easily, where the hell is patrick kearney?

I've been wondering the same thing. I've heard Kerney's name mentioned ZERO times today, and Julian Peterson's only once. The Seahawks need to stop the Pack here, holding them to a FG, and go into the half making some serious adjustments. They've looked very poor on defense.

[Alex The Great]

:woot::up: X 2!!!!

TOUCHDOWN!

[Mister J]

Classic Favre improv right there.

[samurai black]

You have got to be Effin kidding me!!! The greatness of Brett Favre

[samurai black]

Well, this game is getting ugly again. this time for the seahawks.