2007 NFL Thread

[Darthphere]

How did he lose the game for us? Was he responsible for two sure TD's being droped? Was he responsible for all of the penalty's? Was he responsible for the secondary not making plays and the o-line becoming swiss cheese in the second half? I hold him accountable for not throwing the ball away on the two big sacks and a couple of decisions, but all and all he played a solid game.

It comes down to this, who fumbled the snap in Seattle? Who Threw the pick on a 4th and 11 with 15 seconds left? Romo did. The game was in his hands both times, and he lost.

[Showtime]

I agree...I blame that mostly on them missing Harrison. I mean in years past it was Harrison and Wayne eating up defenses, both of them gaining 1000 yards and a ton of TD's you take out a weapon like that and your offense is definately goign to struggle. I mean Dallas Clark turn into there go to guy at one point.

I think that is the main difference between Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Brady learned to play the quarterback position without Pro Bowl receivers and win games despite this. Now that Brady has Pro Bowl receivers he has become dominating. Peyton Manning has played with Pro Bowl receivers for most if not all of his career and has trouble adjusting without said receivers.

Peyton Manning has a tendency to force throws in that aren't there and he has been pretty succesful doing so, problem is alot of time when you are trying that with better defenses in the playoffs with the game on the line, that isn't going to work. Brady on the other hand takes what the defense gives him for the most part. You can see towards the end of the season Brady was forcing the ball to Moss and was not as successful.

[Colossal Spoons]

I really don't know what happened to The Cowboys, they seemed suceesful running with Barber, and then seemed to go away from it. Same thing with T.O., what did he have 4 catches?

Kept giving damn Witten the ball :down:

[DBella]

It's just dumb, really. He knew damn well that's the last thing he needed to be doing at a time like that, where he should have been concerned about getting his behind in a film room instead of sipping margaritas by the beach with a pop star.
Romo's motto: "Hos before bros."

He's made a few bad decisions in the season and yesterday wasn't the time for that. But I'm glad he did because it meant I won my bet because I picked the G-men to win.

As for the Hawks... no surprise there. They got as far as I expected them to. Didn't think they had much of a chance against the Packers. Since last season I had been hoping Hasselbeck will be replaced with a better QB. I've heard talk on the local news that this could be Holmgren's last season. I hope that's not true. I'd rather see Alexander and Hasselbeck go instead of him.

[Excel]

I dont think the Cowboys did anything, the Giants just played very well. They have the Pats a tough time and shut down Tampa Bay. Dont blame anybody just credit wheres it due, they and Eli have layed very well.

[Mister J]

His numbers for his final 6 games after his 296 yard performance:

-305 yards
-51.2 yards a game
-80 carries
-3.8 ypc
-4 touchdowns

Teams know about him now, he aint gonna sneak up on nobody.

Why do you give concessions because of surrounding talent to Vince Young's productivity, but not for Peterson? AD's situation at QB and WR is a joke. If he and Chester ain't carrying the load, nothing gets done on that side of the ball. Playing with the 5th worst passing offense in the league and against 8-man fronts and doing what he did isn't impressive?

I don't think he snuck up on anybody. The man was widely heralded since Day 1 and went for 100+ 4 times in the 7 games before 296. I'd put more stock in him being slowed down because of the torn ligament he suffered in the Packers game, the fact that Minny's pass offense isn't worth anything and/or hitting the 'rookie wall' before believing teams just figured him out.

[Darthphere]

Why do you give concessions because of surrounding talent to Vince Young's productivity, but not for Peterson? AD's situation at QB and WR is a joke. If he and Chester ain't carrying the load, nothing gets done on that side of the ball. Playing with the 5th worst passing offense in the league and against 8-man fronts and doing what he did isn't impressive?

I don't think he snuck up on anybody. The man was widely heralded since Day 1 and went for 100+ 4 times in the 7 games before 296. I'd put more stock in him being slowed down because of the torn ligament he suffered in the Packers game, the fact that Minny's pass offense is worth anything and/or hitting the 'rookie wall' before believing teams just figured him out.

Also, those numbers are skewed because Chester had some really big games in that 6 game span. Gotta go with what's hot.

[Dark Donnie]

Kept giving damn Witten the ball :down:


:heart:

He saved my fantasy season.

[Dark Donnie]

Why do you give concessions because of surrounding talent to Vince Young's productivity, but not for Peterson? AD's situation at QB and WR is a joke. If he and Chester ain't carrying the load, nothing gets done on that side of the ball. Playing with the 5th worst passing offense in the league and against 8-man fronts and doing what he did isn't impressive?

I don't think he snuck up on anybody. The man was widely heralded since Day 1 and went for 100+ 4 times in the 7 games before 296. I'd put more stock in him being slowed down because of the torn ligament he suffered in the Packers game, the fact that Minny's pass offense is worth anything and/or hitting the 'rookie wall' before believing teams just figured him out.

I agree 100%

[Excel]

Why do you give concessions because of surrounding talent to Vince Young's productivity, but not for Peterson? AD's situation at QB and WR is a joke. If he and Chester ain't carrying the load, nothing gets done on that side of the ball. Playing with the 5th worst passing offense in the league and against 8-man fronts and doing what he did isn't impressive?

because during those final 6 games AD played bad, the team took off, had many predicting playoffs, but mopre importantly, tavaris jackson some played damn good football at times during that period. So during this skid, his qb played for 2 games with ratings over 100 and another 2 over 90. AD actually played better when his teams passing game didnt exist.

[Dark Donnie]

I think that is the main difference between Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Brady learned to play the quarterback position with out Pro Bowl receivers and win games despite this. Now that Petyon Manning has Pro Bowl receivers he has become dominating. Peyton Manning has played with Pro Bowl receivers for most if not all of his career and has trouble adjusting without said receivers.

Peyton Manning has a tendency to force throws in that aren't there and he has been pretty succesful doing so, problem is alot of time when you are trying that with better defenses in the playoffs with the game on the line, that isn't going to work. Brady on the other hand takes what the defense gives him for the most part. You can see towards the end of the season Brady was forcing the ball to Moss and was not as successful.

I can agree with that....when you throw to top notch WR's your whole career you have to be used to that. You lose a piece and its going to show, which it did this year.

[Dark Donnie]

because during those final 6 games AD played bad, the team took off, had many predicting playoffs, but mopre importantly, tavaris jackson some played damn good football at times during that period. So during this skid, his qb played for 2 games with ratings over 100 and another 2 over 90.

I actually agree with you for once, that Jackson did play much better, but alot of that had to do with teams putting 8 in the box to stop AD and Chester...it works both ways.

How many games did AD miss 3-4? What weeks?

[Excel]

It comes down to this, who fumbled the snap in Seattle? Who Threw the pick on a 4th and 11 with 15 seconds left? Romo did. The game was in his hands both times, and he lost.

Crayton stopped short on what woulda been a td pass to win the game. Blame it on him.

[Excel]

I actually agree with you for once, that Jackson did play much better, but alot of that had to do with teams putting 8 in the box to stop AD and Chester...it works both ways.

How many games did AD miss 3-4? What weeks?

I believe he missed weeks 12 and 13 (?) and thats what I mean by he snuck up on people....nobody was really gameplanning around him ubtil his huge game and then his season was pretty much done. He had one more game where he put up 100, other than that...

[dr venture]

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[Dark Donnie]

That T.O. one is great

[Cmill216]

So these guys should be watching film fifteen hours a day?

Uh......yeah. It's his job to be prepared to the best of his abilities. Sipping margaritas in Cancun ain't gonna help him a lick.

[FaT_tONle]

Uh......yeah. It's his job to be prepared to the best of his abilities. Sipping margaritas in Cancun ain't gonna help him a lick.

Spending time with your family and lower profiled people like other players probably did is going to help then huh?

[Cmill216]

Spending time with your family and lower profiled people like other players probably did is going to help then huh?

*scratches head*

There's nothing wrong with spending time with his family. No duh. But taking a vacation to Mexico with his celebrity girlfriend when he should be doing everything he can to prepare for an incredibly important playoff game is absolutely the wrong thing to do. Especially when it has a high chance of becoming a distraction.

[Dark Donnie]

Going on vacation before a divisional playoff game is and was a mistake.

[Fran]

Spending time with your family and lower profiled people like other players probably did is going to help then huh?

IT'S THE PLAYOFFS.

You have to prepare much more harder for an opponent each week!

I'm not putting all the blame on Romo, but he should have been studying the Giants, because they are a hot team. But I guess he gets a free pass to Cancun for the week. :down

It's like skipping classes for a week. In the end, it's not worth it. It may be cool at first, but then you get your grades and think, "Man, I could've done better."

I guarantee that if the Cowboys prepared better and studied film and practiced each damn day, they would be hosting the Packers.

[Milkman95]

Hilarious T.O. cry baby gif............

[E. Nygma]

The Brady throw was stupid, i dont think that faked anyone out in the entire world.

[FaT_tONle]

*scratches head*

There's nothing wrong with spending time with his family. No duh. But taking a vacation to Mexico with his celebrity girlfriend when he should be doing everything he can to prepare for an incredibly important playoff game is absolutely the wrong thing to do. Especially when it has a high chance of becoming a distraction.

We don't know if it was a distraction for him personally... you are going to convince me that this was a distraction for the team's preparation? Uh uh... not buying that... that is just ridiculous. But don't pretend you know for certain that his preparation was hurt b/c he took a weekend off.

[FaT_tONle]

I guarantee that if the Cowboys prepared better and studied film and practiced each damn day, they would be hosting the Packers.

I guess Peyton Manning wasn't as prepared as he should have been in 05 either... go ask Manning what he was going during his bye week... you'll get a much different answer.

[Cmill216]

We don't know if it was a distraction for him personally...

And we don't know that it wasn't, do we?

18/36 for 201 yds 1 TD 1 INT and 2 sacks against a defense he shredded twice and who came into the game with a makeshift secondary?

you are going to convince me that this was a distraction for the team's preparation?

I don't have to convince you of anything. That's not what I'm here to do. But.....

*looks at the final score*

But don't pretend you know for certain that his preparation was hurt b/c he took a weekend off.

And don't pretend his preparation couldn't have been bettered by NOT running off to Mexico the week before a playoff game.

[FaT_tONle]

And we don't know that it wasn't, do we?

18/36 for 201 yds 1 TD 1 INT and 2 sacks against a defense he shredded twice and who came into the game with a makeshift secondary?



I don't have to convince you of anything. That's not what I'm here to do. But.....

*looks at the final score*



And don't pretend his preparation couldn't have been bettered by NOT running off to Mexico the week before a playoff game.

So why the hell do we have to ASSUME in the first place... its all speculation and perception... why can't people see it for what it is? Penalties on the defense... an O-line that had its worst game of the year... a running game that never got going in the second half... aren't these the things we should be talking about? More so than the above... I would like to think so.

[Showtime]

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I love that play, a trick play on a trick play.

[Cmill216]

So why the hell do we have to ASSUME in the first place... its all speculation and perception... why can't people see it for what it is? Penalties on the defense... an O-line that had its worst game of the year... a running game that never got going in the second half... aren't these the things we should be talking about? More so than the above... I would like to think so.

That stuff goes without saying. I'm not blaming Romo solely for this loss. That'd be foolish. The point of the current discussion is whether or not it was a good decision for the Boy Wonder to go on vacation with his high profile girlfriend the week before a playoff game. If you want to talk about how badly the offensive line played, then by all means. Go for it.

[amazingfantasy15]

Are people actually blamed the Cowboys loss on Jessica Simpson again?!?! Wasn't this Tony Romo's second year as QB for the Cowboys? Couldn't it also be inexperience in the playoffs that helped contribute to his loss? I'm sure many other people on the Cowboys and other teams have either girlfriends or wives that they spend time with during days and weekends off. I guess if your girlfriend is a celebrity that makes you lose games though

[FaT_tONle]

If you want to talk about how badly the offensive line played, then by all means. Go for it.

Whatever, not worth the time... I'll get over this one... so long as the Giants get knocked out somewhere down the line here... I'm trying to keep things in perspective... it took the Bears forever to win a playoff game... I mean they lost twice as a number two seed before they made a decent run... you look at the Eagles with the three straight Championship losses... the Seahawks who couldn't win a playoff game for the life of them those first few years under Holmgren and Hasselback... that's just recent history... the list goes on and on... none of those teams I mentioned went on to win a Superbowl as of yet... but NE and Indy can't stay this good forever. The Superbowls will come back to the NFC eventually.

[Jerry!]

The Brady throw was stupid, i dont think that faked anyone out in the entire world.

He faked out the one guy that mattered, the guy that was covering Wes Welker. Watch the replay. As for Romo and the whole vacation thing: Do I think it affected him in the game? No I don't think so. But it was foolish to do in that he put himself and teammates in position to be asked about it all week and it gives the media a feeding frenzy. I don't really understand the way the Cowboys played the game. They went for a grind it out offense at times. It took 10 minutes to score one touchdown only to give it back and have the Giants score in under a minute before the half.

[Cmill216]

The Brady throw was stupid, i dont think that faked anyone out in the entire world.

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[NewYorkSpider]

I love that play, a trick play on a trick play.

I seriously thought Maroney had the ball when they did that.

[Cmill216]

- This will be the first AFC Championship since 2002 not to feature the Steelers or the Colts.

- This will be the first NFC Championship since re-alignment not to feature an NFC South team.

[NewYorkSpider]

I never thought about those.

2003-04 - Colts
2004-05 - Steelers
2005-06 - Steelers
2006-07 - Colts

2002-03 - Bucs
2003-04 - Panthers
2004-05 - Falcons
2005-06 - Panthers
2006-07 - Saints

[LegendaryCaleb]

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[Alex The Great]

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That trick play is AWSEME! *saves*

Well....Congratz to the Chargers. but please. bend over for the spanking of a life time from the Pats.

Eli should bring some Mitts lol.

[NewYorkSpider]

I love how some Patriots fans think they have an automatic bid to the Super Bowl. This is why people hate New England so much. Most of you fans are so arrogant. I hope San Deigo crushes them.

[Stryder]

The Brady throw was stupid, i dont think that faked anyone out in the entire world.

Why the hell would that matter? All that matters is that 6 points are on the board. He can do a tap dance for all I care as long as points are scored.

[Alex The Great]

well....I'm, not 100% confident they'll win....you know...I mean. look at the Chargers/Indy game.

just 95% sure :csad::up:

[Showtime]

I seriously thought Maroney had the ball when they did that.

So did some of the right side of the Jaguars defense. I thought it was a pretty damn good play call. Entertaining if anything.

[Alex The Great]

The Brady throw was stupid, i dont think that faked anyone out in the entire world.
:huh::dry::o:huh::dry::dry:

uhh....ok

[Showtime]

I love how some Patriots fans think they have an automatic bid to the Super Bowl. This is why people hate New England so much. You fans are so arrogant. I hope San Deigo crushes them.

Don't groups us all together.

[Alex The Great]

So did some of the right side of the Jaguars defense. I thought it was a pretty damn good play call. Entertaining if anything.
it was great. brought some excitment to the play.

[Jerry!]

The Brady throw was stupid, i dont think that faked anyone out in the entire world.

I love how some Patriots fans think they have an automatic bid to the Super Bowl. This is why people hate New England so much. Most of you fans are so arrogant. I hope San Deigo crushes them.

It's the same way with Green Bay though as well. People are acting like that game is already over as well. I'm not sure what I'd like to see more, a Super Bowl loss for Favre, or them being beaten at home by the Giants. Tough call.

[NewYorkSpider]

So did some of the right side of the Jaguars defense. I thought it was a pretty damn good play call. Entertaining if anything.

It was an amazing play. That was the play that happened right before I went to the bar with my friends. I got in the car and asked them if they heard the play on the radio. They said "Yeah, even the announcer thought that Maroney had the ball".

Don't groups us all together.

I fixed it. :o

[Showtime]

it was great. brought some excitment to the play.

I thought it was pretty innovative, I've never seen it before.

It was an amazing play. That was the play that happened right before I went to the bar with my friends. I got in the car and asked them if they heard the play on the radio. They said "Yeah, even the announcer thought that Maroney had the ball".
I fixed it. :o

I hope they have something else lined up for this week.

[NewYorkSpider]

It's the same way with Green Bay though as well. People are acting like that game is already over as well. I'm not sure what I'd like to see more, a Super Bowl loss for Favre, or them being beaten at home by the Giants. Tough call.

My friend is a Cowboys fan. All he could talk about this season was the Cowboys making it to the Super Bowl. It just makes me hate Dallas even more. I'm glad they lost yesterday.


I hope they have something else lined up for this week.

The trick play they did against Pittsburgh was awsome as well.

[Fran]

Wade has gotta shut up.

"After looking at the replay, I see that the better team clearly lost."

:dry:

[Jerry!]

Well, honestly he is right. The Cowboys aren't as good as they want to believe they are, but they are better than the Giants. But it doesn't matter. Just takes one game.

[Fran]

If they were the better team, we'd be discussing a rematch of Brett and Romo.

[Jerry!]

It was an upset. Just like the Colts game.

[NewYorkSpider]

The Giants didn't win that game, the Cowboys lost it. Romo was just lobbing the ball wherever he threw it on that final drive. It was just a horrible drive. It was like they didn't care anymore.

[Fran]

And that's where they lost the status as the better team.

And I'm going to stop saying it because it's falling on deaf ears.

[Jerry!]

This is why these games are called upsets Fran. The better team didn't win. It doesn't mean that the Giants didn't deserve to win, they sure as hell earned it. But on a talent level, the Cowboys are better than the Giants. The Bears beat the Packers twice this year, one of them being in "Favre" weather, where Kyle Orton outplayed Favre. Does that mean that the Bears are a better team? No, they were upsets.

[Fran]

Yes, father.

[Alex The Great]

Well. fun games to watch with out a doubt. :cwink::up:

Eli better bring his snow gear an Chargers better but whip there players to beat the patriots. They CAN beat NE. but it won't be a easy task.


I'm still amazed that even after all this there gonna have the 7th overall draft pick.

I think that Miami will sign Rex grossman or something. They NEED a QB. and some receivers and a O line and a defense and *goes cross eyed*


another thing. JAGUARS. WATCH OUT FOR THEM! They have plenty of cap room so expect some big signings this off season. There QB Garrard definatley kicks ass. He out performed BRADY! (if u exclude the 2 INTS)
SO Jaguars will definatley be on my list of teams to be sdcared of next season.

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[Dark Donnie]

I just saw on PTI that The Falcons didn't even meet there new GM in person before hiring :huh:

[Dark Donnie]

Well. fun games to watch with out a doubt. :cwink::up:

Eli better bring his snow gear an Chargers better but whip there players to beat the patriots. They CAN beat NE. but it won't be a easy task.


I'm still amazed that even after all this there gonna have the 7th overall draft pick.

I think that Miami will sign Rex grossman or something. They NEED a QB. and some receivers and a O line and a defense and *goes cross eyed*


another thing. JAGUARS. WATCH OUT FOR THEM! They have plenty of cap room so expect some big signings this off season. There QB Garrard definatley kicks ass. He out performed BRADY! (if u exclude the 2 INTS)
SO Jaguars will definatley be on my list of teams to be sdcared of next season.

:woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot:

Miami drafted John Beck in the second round so they won't be signing any QB's I think

I really hope The Chargers win just to see YOUR reaction.

[Jerry!]

Yeah but it was the GM who found a lot of the star players on the Patriots, like Watson, Samuel, among others. Needless to say, he knows what he is doing.

[Alex The Great]

I just saw on PTI that The Falcons didn't even meet there new GM in person before hiring :huh:
:wow::huh::dry::o:whatever::huh:


Falcons. just because he's a member of the patriots team doesn't mean he's gonna be an amazing....:FACEPALM:

[Dark Donnie]

lol....That is all well in good, but you still meet the guy in person, he's in charge a couple hundred million dollar franchise.

[Alex The Great]

Miami drafted John Beck in the second round so they won't be signing any QB's I think

I really hope The Chargers win just to see YOUR reaction.

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NAME ATT. CMP. YDS. PCT. TD INT LG SACK RATING
J. Beck 107 60 559 56.1 1 3 22t 10/69 62.0

didn't do much. looks like he 2 games played........lol.

If i was Miami i'd sign Rex though. at least you know you have a good QB (he IS good sometimes...)
Ya never know. they might pull a Patiots and make him REALLY GOOD.
that's my opinion though....no flaming please.....
who would you trust? a 2nd rounder QB that played for like...2 games and threw 3 ints and only 1 TD? or sign Rexy who's a decent veteran (well....kinda) who you at least you know can make the big play?

:shrug:

[Fran]

Hahaha.

They talked on AIM for a while. :o

ABMonay12: yo
D1mitroff: wudup
ABMonay12: i got a question to ask u
D1mitroff: sure
ABMonay12: do u want 2 be the gm for the falcons?
D1mitroff: hmm let me think a minute
D1mitroff: k sounds cool
ABMonay12: we'll talk l8r this weekend
D1mitroff: g2g watch game
ABMonay12: k dood ttyl
D1mitroff: kthxbi

[Alex The Great]

Hahaha.

They talked on AIM for a while. :o

ABMonay12: yo
D1mitroff: wudup
ABMonay12: i got a question to ask u
D1mitroff: sure
ABMonay12: do u want 2 be the gm for the falcons?
D1mitroff: hmm let me think a minute
D1mitroff: k sounds cool
ABMonay12: we'll talk l8r this weekend
D1mitroff: g2g watch game
ABMonay12: k dood ttyl
D1mitroff: kthxbi
that must of been a long ass convo :o

[Fran]

That was the entire conversation. :huh:

[Alex The Great]

lol. yup. veerrry long :o


and if ur thinking that i think that's long then no. sarcasim.

[Fran]

What's "sarcasim" :huh:

[Immortalfire]

Wade has gotta shut up.

"After looking at the replay, I see that the better team clearly lost."

:dry:

Who's he think he is, Buckeye fans after getting walloped by Florida and LSU?

[Dark Donnie]

Seahawks Offense-TM-Seahawks Jan. 14 - 5:44 pm et

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports there was a "decided" feeling around the NFL that Saturday's loss to Green Bay would be coach Mike Holmgren's last game with Seattle.

However, Schefter says Holmgren has since been "waffling" on his decision. Holmgren will spend the next week or two with his family before deciding whether he'll return to the team. For what it's worth, Seahawks offensive coordinator Gil Haskell says he doesn't think Holmgren will call it quits

......

[Alex The Great]

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u KNOW i'm not the best speller....sarcasm....jeez. whya re you ALWAYS coming down on me fran?

[Hunter Rider]

^ Seattle need a better QB IMO.

[Alex The Great]

......
if he does.....then damn....bumch of teams need HC's....

[Alex The Great]

^ Seattle need a better QB IMO.
Matt Hasselback is pretty good IMO.


if they cut him then Miami might grab him....

[NewYorkSpider]

^ Seattle need a better QB IMO.

Hasselbeck is a good QB. The Seahawks need to get a RB. Alexander is getting old.

[Alex The Great]

Alexander....Haven't heard much bout him lately.......trade him for draft picks.....he's worth a late 1st, 2nd or 3rd round IMO.

[NewYorkSpider]

Seattle won't trade Alexander. They still want the experience when they draft a RB. Alexander will probably be done in Seattle after this next season.

[Alex The Great]

yup yuppidy :up:

[Dark Donnie]

I saw T.O. took the blame for the Romo to Cancun thing.....said he bought the tickets for them as a gift to say he was sorry to Jessica.

[Zen]

I saw T.O. took the blame for the Romo to Cancun thing.....said he bought the tickets for them as a gift to say he was sorry to Jessica.

is this for real

or for play play

??

crocodile tears

[Jerry!]

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NAME ATT. CMP. YDS. PCT. TD INT LG SACK RATING
J. Beck 107 60 559 56.1 1 3 22t 10/69 62.0

didn't do much. looks like he 2 games played........lol.

If i was Miami i'd sign Rex though. at least you know you have a good QB (he IS good sometimes...)
Ya never know. they might pull a Patiots and make him REALLY GOOD.
that's my opinion though....no flaming please.....
who would you trust? a 2nd rounder QB that played for like...2 games and threw 3 ints and only 1 TD? or sign Rexy who's a decent veteran (well....kinda) who you at least you know can make the big play?

:shrug:

Grossman needs a good offensive line to be good. He was having trouble getting snaps from a Hall of Fame center, I can't imagine how he would do with the Dolphin's line.

[Dark Donnie]

is this for real

or for play play

??

crocodile tears

This was said today(according to ESPN)....not at the tearful press conference.

[Dark Donnie]

Hasselbeck is a good QB. The Seahawks need to get a RB. Alexander is getting old.

I think Hasselbeck meh.....not great, but not bad. They really should make O Line(guard) and RB a target, maybe even TE.

[NewYorkSpider]

I still think it was a mistake for Miami to pass on Brady Quinn in the draft. John Beck had only one good game out of the 5 he started.

[Bond]

I saw T.O. took the blame for the Romo to Cancun thing.....said he bought the tickets for them as a gift to say he was sorry to Jessica.
He said that in an interview with Deion Sanders that they showed before the game.

[Alex The Great]

I still think it was a mistake for Miami to pass on Brady Quinn in the draft. John Beck had only one good game out of the 5 he started.
yeah....to who did he go to and hwo has he done?



and plus.

Calvin Johnson...i haven't heard jack about him all season..

[E. Nygma]

PASSING
NAME ATT. CMP. YDS. PCT. TD INT LG SACK RATING
J. Beck 107 60 559 56.1 1 3 22t 10/69 62.0

didn't do much. looks like he 2 games played........lol.

If i was Miami i'd sign Rex though. at least you know you have a good QB (he IS good sometimes...)
Ya never know. they might pull a Patiots and make him REALLY GOOD.
that's my opinion though....no flaming please.....
who would you trust? a 2nd rounder QB that played for like...2 games and threw 3 ints and only 1 TD? or sign Rexy who's a decent veteran (well....kinda) who you at least you know can make the big play?



:shrug:

Beck didn't look like anything, but didn't really do anything. I mean Cam Cameron kept the leash on him, called a lot of safety throws with high percentage of success. We didn't see Beck show off his deep ball arm a whole lot. The line play was very poor when Beck played so he was constantly under pressure as coaches new blitzing the hell out of an unproven rookie was smart.

I too dont see the Dolphins drafting a QB high. If at all. I think they'll sign a veteran, maybe a Chad Pennington or something and hope Beck progresses a long. Beck didn't show enough to prove that he's the option at QB long term, but he didn't exactly show he was a disaster either.

[NewYorkSpider]

I think Hasselbeck meh.....not great, but not bad. They really should make O Line(guard) and RB a target, maybe even TE.

The Seahawks will probably take Jonathan Stewart(RB) in the draft. They will probably hope that Felix Jones(RB) drops to them, but the Cowboys have an extra draft pick and may draft him.

[Fran]

That's because he's a Lion.

(Calvin Johnson)

[NewYorkSpider]

yeah....to who did he go to and hwo has he done?



and plus.

Calvin Johnson...i haven't heard jack about him all season..

What's happend to the last couple of first round draft picks that the Lions have taken. Calvin Johnson is good, he just got drafted by the wrong team.

[Alex The Great]

That's because he's a Lion.

(Calvin Johnson)
yeah. Calvin Johnson should have gone to the PATS! :cmad:

even though it'd be IMPOSSIBLE for him to drop back that far :csad:

[E. Nygma]

What's happend to the last couple of first round draft picks that the Lions have taken. Calvin Johnson is good, he just got drafted by the wrong team.

Ernie Sims has been a pretty good player for them.

Calvin showed some signs this year.

A lot of the poor personnel decisions both in the draft and in other areas have come from Matt Millen. Who is just an abysmal GM and should be fired. But for some reason isn't.

[NewYorkSpider]

Ernie Sims has been a pretty good player for them.

Calvin showed some signs this year.

A lot of the poor personnel decisions both in the draft and in other areas have come from Matt Millen. Who is just an abysmal GM and should be fired. But for some reason isn't.

Yup. Matt Millen needs to go. They've needed a running back for the last couple of years and they take WR's in the first round. There is so many holes to fix on that team that it's not even funny.

[Cmill216]

^ Seattle need a better QB IMO.

Natta. Hasselback is a top 10, if not top 5 quarterback in football today.

That's because he's a Lion.

(Calvin Johnson)

BINGO. Calvin Johnson has otherworldly talent, but he's cursed being in Detroit. Cursed.

[Alex The Great]

0_0

curse

[E. Nygma]

Yup. Matt Millen needs to go. They've needed a running back for the last couple of years and they take WR's in the first round. There is so many holes to fix on that team that it's not even funny.

He's 31-81 since he arrived there in 2001. No playoff appearances of course. I just dont see how that merits him keeping his job.

[Fran]

BINGO. Calvin Johnson has otherworldly talent, but he's cursed being in Detroit. Cursed.

Living two hours from Detroit, I've seen many good WR's come and go from the Lions and end up busts.

-Charles Rogers (:csad:)
-Mike Williams
-any other big draft pick

[E. Nygma]

Living two hours from Detroit, I've seen many good WR's come and go from the Lions and end up busts.

-Charles Rogers (:csad:)
-Mike Williams
-any other big draft pick

Mike Williams was only really good in college. Rogers showed signs but struggled with injuries. The WR need for the Lions was there, what angered people is that every year it seemed they were trying to fill that need instead of other needs.

Jon Kitna is still a terrible QB. Perhaps they should look there.

[Excel]

Hahaha.

They talked on AIM for a while. :o

ABMonay12: yo
D1mitroff: wudup
ABMonay12: i got a question to ask u
D1mitroff: sure
ABMonay12: do u want 2 be the gm for the falcons?
D1mitroff: hmm let me think a minute
D1mitroff: k sounds cool
ABMonay12: we'll talk l8r this weekend
D1mitroff: g2g watch game
ABMonay12: k dood ttyl
D1mitroff: kthxbi

Hahahaha

[Hunter Rider]

I think Hasselbeck meh.....not great, but not bad. They really should make O Line(guard) and RB a target, maybe even TE.

I agree on Hasselbeck. Seahawks need some running game for sure as well.

[StorminNorman]

Living two hours from Detroit, I've seen many good WR's come and go from the Lions and end up busts.

-Charles Rogers (:csad:)
-Mike Williams
-any other big draft pick

Roy Williams.

[Advanced Dark]

What happened to all the pics of Manning and the Colts holding trophies and smiling? ;)

[Ghostrider87]

What happened to all the pics of Manning and the Colts holding trophies and smiling? ;)

My guess if they can't repeat no reason to keep them up.

[Jerry!]

That and he would be banned as well.

[LegendaryCaleb]

Living two hours from Detroit, I've seen many good WR's come and go from the Lions and end up busts.

-Charles Rogers (:csad:)
-Mike Williams
-any other big draft pick
gah...that depresses me...
Calvin will be an amazing WR...no worries...
Stanton needs to see some time next year ;)

[KALEL114]

It comes down to this, who fumbled the snap in Seattle? Who Threw the pick on a 4th and 11 with 15 seconds left? Romo did. The game was in his hands both times, and he lost.
Who's talking about Seatle? This is about the Giants game. You can judge a players performance on the last play of the game. Yoy have to look at everything that happened before it. For example, what happened on the 3rd and 11 before that 4th down? Crayton stoped on his route. Another possible TD. That's just one play in a slew of many. People can try to pin this one on Romo all they want, but if you go back and watch the game, you will see it was the o-line and dropped TD's that lost this for us.

[Badger]

Alexander....Haven't heard much bout him lately.......trade him for draft picks.....he's worth a late 1st, 2nd or 3rd round IMO.


Seriously, come on, seriously?!???!! :huh:

[Mee]

It comes down to this, who fumbled the snap in Seattle? Who Threw the pick on a 4th and 11 with 15 seconds left? Romo did. The game was in his hands both times, and he lost.
Not you too Darthphere. :csad:


You can blame those plays on him, but not the games. And the 4th & 11 he gets a pass, cause Garret called a dumb play and sent everyone to the endzone, Romo had to force it somewhere. :huh:

But he didn't jump offsides on big 3rd downs, miss blocks, drops passes, the team lost.

[Badger]

I'm starting to think Mee really is Tony Romo. :wow:

[Kelly]

It is ridiculously stupid to blame one person on the loss of a game. BUT, as the QB, he is the leader of the team, and the buck will stop with him.

[strikezone89]

It is ridiculously stupid to blame one person on the loss of a game. BUT, as the QB, he is the leader of the team, and the buck will stop with him.

totally agree.
thats why its a TEAM game.
when one falls the others should pick him up

[Hunter Rider]

That's the nature of team sport though, when they win the QB gets all the glory and when they lose they take the heat.

[E. Nygma]

cant blame Romo for yesterday's loss.

Yeah he threw the pick with a chance to win, but he wasn't the reason they lost. Or were losing. Those reasons have already been covered in this thread. See penalties, horrible coaching, and Patrick Crayton the world's most over rated WR.

[Dark Donnie]

That's the nature of team sport though, when they win the QB gets all the glory and when they lose they take the heat.

:up:

[KALEL114]

cant blame Romo for yesterday's loss.

Yeah he threw the pick with a chance to win, but he wasn't the reason they lost. Or were losing. Those reasons have already been covered in this thread. See penalties, horrible coaching, and Patrick Crayton the world's most over rated WR.

He killed us more than anything. Hopefully with our two first round picks, we can get a good WR and DB.

[Darthphere]

That's the nature of team sport though, when they win the QB gets all the glory and when they lose they take the heat.

Exactly. And that's all I'm saying. People are not going to remember Crayton running a bad route, or anything else, they will remember Tony Romo going on vacation and throwing a pic.

[Fran]

Can someone make that T.O. crying GIF into a 100x100 and 125x125 avatar for me?

[Jerry!]

16-0. Right T.O. ?
http://i18.tinypic.com/73l2djq.gif

[Fran]

I wish I still had the T.O. winking avvy available :csad:

[Jspider13]

I'm jealous of your avatar.

[Showtime]

That's awesome Fran.

[Dark Donnie]

Shaun Alexander-RB- Seahawks Jan. 15 - 9:17 am et


Shaun Alexander will still count at least $2.3 million against the 2008 salary cap if Seattle releases him this offseason.

The Seahawks may look to re-work his deal before considering cutting Alexander outright to avoid being on the hook for dead money. His cap number if Seattle keeps him is $7.35 million. His salary is just under $5 million.
Source: Seattle Times


LaDainian Tomlinson-RB- Chargers Jan. 15 - 9:10 am et


The San Diego Union-Tribune reports LaDainian Tomlinson (knee) is "almost certain" to play in the AFC title game. Philip Rivers likely will also.

Rivers is expected to be a go despite an MCL strain in his right knee and an MCL sprain in his left. Tomlinson indicated Monday that he'll "get as much treatment as (he) can" in preparation for the biggest game of his career. That may involve taking painkillers. Neither is likely to practice much this week.
Source: San Diego Union-Tribune
Related: Philip Rivers


:yay:

[The Game]

Exactly. And that's all I'm saying. People are not going to remember Crayton running a bad route, or anything else, they will remember Tony Romo going on vacation and throwing a pic.

.............and throwing the ball away when in the pocket but holding on to it while out of it

[Kaleb]

The Ravens have hired Jason Garrett as the new head coach. more news to come later on.

[Dark Donnie]

Report: Pacman punches woman at strip club

Pacman Jones reportedly punched a female lawyer at the Body Tap strip club in North Atlanta on January 3rd.

Jones apparently entered the manager's office, accusing the club of stealing money from him and falsely accusing his entourage of owing a tab. Jones reportedly lunged at the woman multiple times during the meeting, in what the lawyer said was an attempt at grave bodily harm. Jones didn't connect until afterwards in the hallway, when he reached around a security guard to "sucker punch" the woman. Not only could this be a violation of Jones' parole, it could result in the league delaying his March return to football activities, and certainly make the Titans less willing to welcome him back. Jan. 15 - 12:31 pm et
Source: wsbtv.com


What a loser!

[Dark Donnie]

The Ravens have hired Jason Garrett as the new head coach. more news to come later on.
Has he taken it?? This is all I could find?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3197523

Found this

Report: Ravens offer Garrett coaching job

ESPN.com reports that the Ravens have offered Dallas coordinator Jason Garrett their head coaching job.

Some local reports in Baltimore says Garrett has been hired, but ESPN reports that no decision has been made by Garrett yet. Jan. 15 - 12:47 pm et

[Kaleb]

Has he taken it?? This is all I could find?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3197523

Found this

damit, aparently Jerry Jones is expected to match the offer :cmad:

[BlackLantern]

if jerry wants to keep Jason garrett around he has a tough choice to make

[Dark Donnie]

Al Davis is up to it again jag!

Raiders Offense-TM-Raiders Jan. 15 - 1:15 pm et

Pro Football Weekly is reporting that Lane Kiffin could be on the brink of losing his head coaching job.

Kiffin and owner Al Davis have fought over control of the roster since the draft, and Davis chose to retain defensive coordinator Rob Ryan despite Kiffin seemingly wanting to hire his own coach. Davis is also angry over Kiffin's reported interest in both the Arkansas and Michigan jobs, which Kiffin denies ever having. Ryan, meanwhile, would be the top candidate for the job if Kiffin is let go.
Source: profootballweekly.com

[Dark Donnie]

if jerry wants to keep Jason garrett around he has a tough choice to make

If I was Jason Garret, I would take the Baltimore job

[BlackLantern]

If I was Jason Garret, I would take the Baltimore job

Garrett has spent a lot of his career in Dallas tho, and if he was willing to wait he would be the Cowboys head coach.....Jerry is basicallly going to lose his protege in Jason takes the Baltimore job

[Immortalfire]

What a loser!

What is it with him causing trouble at strip clubs..you never hear of him causing a ruckus at McDonald's :huh:

[Dark Donnie]

What is it with him causing trouble at strip clubs..you never hear of him causing a ruckus at McDonald's :huh:

Someone actually answered that on Yahoo Answers....they said he would make it rain with 10,000 Barbeque Packets....:yay:

[kane9321]

buahahahaahah

[Dark Donnie]

Ravens Offense-TM-Ravens Jan. 15 - 2:05 pm et

ESPN.com reports that while the Ravens have offered Jason Garrett their head coaching job, there is only a "60-40" chance he will accept.

ESPN.com cites a source that says Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has told Garrett he would match any offer that the Ravens make. Jones views Garrett as the potential next head coach of the Cowboys, but continues to say he will not fire Wade Phillips in order to keep Garrett in Dallas. Garrett is currently scheduled to meet with the Falcons later today.
Source: espn.com


Dolphins Offense-TM-Dolphins Jan. 15 - 1:51 pm et

Dolphins GM Jeff Ireland is flying to Dallas to pick up Cowboys assistant head coach Tony Sparano in one of Wayne Huizenga's private jets.

Ireland is expected to return with Sparano this evening, at which point Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald speculates the wining and dining will begin. Sparano's agent reportedly has a preliminary contract worked out, and it's possible Sparano could be signed by Wednesday.
:boba:

[Mister J]

Titans Fire Offensive Coordinator Norw Chow (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3197683)

The Tennessee Titans fired offensive coordinator Norm Chow after three seasons with the team, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported Tuesday.

The Titans finished the regular season 10-6 and suffered a 17-6 loss to the San Diego Chargers in the first round of the playoffs. They finished 10th in the AFC in total yards.

Chow, who was previously the offensive coordinator at USC, was interviewed for UCLA's head coach opening in December but withdrew his name from consideration. The Bruins went on to hire Rick Neuheisel.

Well, at least their loyal to the QB. :lmao:

I doubt Norm is out of a job for long.

[Immortalfire]

Al Davis is up to it again jag!

I'm not sure which Al enjoys more, hiring coaches or firing them.

[bored]

Titans Fire Offensive Coordinator Norw Chow (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3197683)



Well, at least their loyal to the QB. :lmao:

I doubt Norm is out of a job for long.


Hey, we've got an opening in KC if he wants it.

[X-Rated]

Wade Phiilips said, "After looking at the tape, I think certainly the better team lost."

Why don't he look at the scoreboard at who the better team was. Thinking about who the better team is, is like voting in the BCS polls for who's #1.

:nono:

[Jerry!]

Well the Cowboys are the better team. The Giants just outplayed them. But it was the wrong thing for Wade to say, especially at that time.

[Alex The Great]

and the coaching weeling and dealing begins.....

[E. Nygma]

Sparano will be announced by tomorrow i'd imagine.

[Dark Donnie]

It loosk that way......I wonder if Jerry Jones is going to give Wade Wilson his walking papers in order to keep Garrett.

[Jerry!]

Do you think he would do it if the Cowboys won that game?

[Dark Donnie]

Do you think he would do it if the Cowboys won that game?

It's a completely different situation....Garrett wouldn't be up for the job right now. Everyone knows Wade Phillips is a lame duck coach, there was talk about Garrett getting the job last year but Jones has his doubts, mainly because of his inexperience.


Branch gets second opinion, needs ACL surgery

Deion Branch got a second opinion from Dr. James Andrews, who confirmed that the receiver will need surgery to repair a torn ACL.

Mike Holmgren said that Branch, who injured himself in Seattle's season-ending loss to the Packers, is expected to be out at least nine months, and likely longer. Re-signing D.J. Hackett immediately becomes priority number one for the 'Hawks, who could end up using the franchise tag to salvage their receiving corps. Jan. 15 - 7:55 pm et

[The Chris]

Well the Cowboys are the better team. The Giants just outplayed them. But it was the wrong thing for Wade to say, especially at that time.

I think Wade said the cowboys are better AND they outplayed the Giants, which is quite frankly some of the dumbest s**t I've ever heard. If that was the case, the *****es would have won. Take your defeat like a man.

[Jerry!]

Yeah if the Giants had won like the Cowboys had won that one Monday Night game where Romo threw like 5 INTs, then I would agree that the Cowboys outplayed them. But they didn't.

[Excel]

Chow gone=good vince

[E. Nygma]

It loosk that way......I wonder if Jerry Jones is going to give Wade Wilson his walking papers in order to keep Garrett.

Jones says he'd match the offer

This makes me believe that Garrett is going to be the HC in Dallas and Wade will be gone.

Because how could you pay head coach money to an assistant?

[LegendaryCaleb]

Titans Fire Offensive Coordinator Norw Chow (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3197683)



Well, at least their loyal to the QB. :lmao:

I doubt Norm is out of a job for long.
good for vince...

[LegendaryCaleb]

freakin double post

[E. Nygma]

Norm could go back to the collegiate level

[Fran]

Norm could come to State, we need to fire Narduzzi for his retarded play-calling against BC. :down

[Dark Donnie]

Jones says he'd match the offer

This makes me believe that Garrett is going to be the HC in Dallas and Wade will be gone.

Because how could you pay head coach money to an assistant?

Ask Dan Snider

[rdh007]

I'm wondering if they won't groom Garrett for another year. It seems like Jones would've pulled the trigger by now.

[Dark Donnie]

Derek Anderson-QB-Browns Jan. 15 - 8:19 pm et

Scout.com is reporting that Derek Anderson is looking for a contract in the Matt Schaub to Tony Romo range.

Schaub signed a six-year $48 million deal before this season and Romo inked a six-year $67.5 million contract. With Brady Quinn waiting in the wings, it's unlikely that Anderson will see a six-year commitment from the Browns, but odds are that he'll be back for at least one more season, even if Cleveland has to slap the franchise tag on him.
Source: scout.com

[Bond]

So I think Jason Garrett will leave the Cowboys, Jerry will keep Wade another year, we won't be the #1 seed again, but we'll make the playoffs, and then by the time 2009 comes around, Wade will leave and zen...






http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/AAGV021~Bill-Cowher-Posters.jpg

[bored]

It loosk that way......I wonder if Jerry Jones is going to give Wade Wilson his walking papers in order to keep Garrett.

http://images.google.com/url?q=http://aklemai.com/albums/2007_03/deadpool_jump.gif&usg=AFQjCNE3l-afm0jffu1ggRBH5VJ-uTV1_g ?

[Kargo Warrior]

Brady on Romo:

"Everybody has lives," Brady said. "We work seven months, eight months, out of the year. You still have a life to live. On the weekends you do whatever you do to relax and rejuvenate. It's not like they can go to the local eatery in Dallas and hang out."
Brady stated what really made the difference: "If they caught the ball in the end zone at the end, nobody makes any mention (of the Mexico trip)," Brady said. "You alleviate a lot of criticism by winning. That's what I've realized for eight years."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Brady-defends-Romo-and-pre-playoff-vacation?urn=nfl,61860

He speaks the truth.

[Bond]

That's why he wasn't criticized for leaving Bridget. He is godly at football, so no one really cares what he does.

Tony on the other hand... :(

[The Chris]

As a fan of new york football and supreme Patriots hater I can't believe I'm about to write this, I'm rooting for the patriots to beat the trash talking ******* chargers. At first it was just because Patriots vs Packers or Giants just sounds better, but I saw the chargers talking crap about the pats on sportscenter, and now they need an asskicking.

[LostSon88]

What'd they say?

[BlackLantern]

why do people think Cowher is going to be back coaching anytime soon?.......if he goes to any NFL team it will be to carolina so he can stay close to home.....and i really doubt he will be back coaching anytime soon

[Silver Knight]

So I think Jason Garrett will leave the Cowboys, Jerry will keep Wade another year, we won't be the #1 seed again, but we'll make the playoffs, and then by the time 2009 comes around, Wade will leave and zen...






http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/AAGV021~Bill-Cowher-Posters.jpg
No. Dudes going Carolina.

[NewYorkSpider]

why do people think Cowher is going to be back coaching anytime soon?.......if he goes to any NFL team it will be to carolina so he can stay close to home.....and i really doubt he will be back coaching anytime soon

Yup, Cower isn't going to Dallas where controversy looms, and he sure as hell won't coach for an owner like Jerry Jones. I just can't see those two together.

[Colossal Spoons]

Brady on Romo:

"Everybody has lives," Brady said. "We work seven months, eight months, out of the year. You still have a life to live. On the weekends you do whatever you do to relax and rejuvenate. It's not like they can go to the local eatery in Dallas and hang out."
Brady stated what really made the difference: "If they caught the ball in the end zone at the end, nobody makes any mention (of the Mexico trip)," Brady said. "You alleviate a lot of criticism by winning. That's what I've realized for eight years."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Brady-defends-Romo-and-pre-playoff-vacation?urn=nfl,61860

He speaks the truth.

Too true

[Dark Donnie]

Randy Moss-WR- Patriots Jan. 15 - 11:34 pm et

Earlier Tuesday evening, WDBO-AM Radio 580 in Central Florida reported Patriots WR Randy G. Moss was hit with a temporary injunction for protection against dating violence. However the story now has been taken down from the radio station's website.

After some searching, we dug up a court document, filed on Jan 14, that does list a person by the name of Randy G. Moss accused of "dating violence" against a woman named Rachelle Washington. Outside of WDBO radio's intial report, there is no telling if the Randy G. Moss in the court document is the same Randy G. Moss that plays wide receiver for the New England Patriots. It is worth noting that Patriots' Randy G. Moss is married, but does make his offseason home in Boca Raton, FL.
Source: BrowardClerk.org

:lips:

[Excel]

What'd they say?

"New England who?" "theyre scared, not us" ect.

[Dark Donnie]

Im really hoping for Packers vs Patriots

[Dark Donnie]

Ben Roethlisberger-QB-Steelers Jan. 16 - 8:44 am et

Ben Roethlisberger wants three things this offseason: a new contract, a big receiver, and the Steelers to re-sign G Alan Faneca.

The third wish is very unlikely to happen, but he's expected to get a new deal, possibly in the six-year, $70 million range. Big Ben has wanted a tall wideout since Plaxico Burress got away. James Hardy (Indiana), Adarius Bowman (Oklahoma State), and Malcolm Kelly (Oklahoma) will be available in April.
Source: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Related: James Hardy, Malcolm Kelly, Adarius Bowman

Excel :dry:
Laurence Maroney-RB-Patriots Jan. 16 - 7:56 am et

Patriots coach Bill Belichick says Laurence Maroney was one of the team's most consistent players all season.

"I think Laurence has run well for us all year," Belichick said. "We measure that by how many yards he gets per opportunity." Maroney only ran 185 times during the regular season, but averaged 4.5 YPC. The biggest concerns are his lack of involvement in the passing game and struggles in short yardage - two things that he should've improved at as an NFL sophomore.
Source: Boston Globe

Mister J
Dolphins Offense-TM- Dolphins Jan. 15 - 10:56 pm et


A news conference to announce Tony Sparano as the next head coach of the Dolphins could be held by as soon as Wednesday.

GM Jeff Ireland says Sparano will be "grinded" by Dolphins brass once more early Wednesday before a decision is made. After Sparano is named coach, Miami will begin exploring its options at defensive coordinator. Cowboys DBs coach Todd Bowles and DL coach Paul Pasqualoni are candidates.
Source: Palm Beach Post
Related: Cowboys

[The Chris]

"New England who?" "theyre scared, not us" ect.

Now you can look at that as "ah that's not much", but damn these are the new england patriots. Shut the hell up. Look what they did to the steelers that game. They murdered them!

[Immortalfire]

Mister J

Everytime I see that name, I instantly read it as Tony Soprano will coach Miami.

[Fran]

Give Linehan one more year, and then hire Cowher as our coach :yellow:

[Dark Donnie]

Dolphins finally hire Sparano away from 'Boys

FoxSports.com reports that the Dolphins have hired Dallas assistant head coach Tony Sparano to be their next head coach.

It took a little while, but Sparano appeared to be Bill Parcells' guy from minute one. Look for a discpline-heavy approach from the former offensive line coach. Sparano called the plays for Bill Parcells in 2006 for the Cowboys, and their offense was run-heavy, but liked to throw deep. Jan. 16 - 9:44 am et
Source: FoxSports.com

Official

Soprano is in

[Cmill216]

Where's Surf?

[Fran]

Who? :huh:

[Cmill216]

YOUR best friend

[Mister J]

Official

Soprano is in
:up:

Looking forward to Parcells beginning to shape the roster now.

[Fran]

YOUR best friend

Well, don't worry folks. YOUR Indianapolis Colts will be back next season.

D-Free will be healthy and ready to go. Bob will repeat as DPOY :word:

:randomColtspictureirrelevanttotopic:

[kane9321]

the chargers are talking mad ****e for some unknown damned reasons... I want my pats to beat these bozo's by 20pts

[Dark Donnie]

Willie Parker-RB-Steelers Jan. 16 - 11:07 am et

Steelers director of football operations Kevin Colbert says the team may target running back as a position of need in the draft this off-season.

As early as the first round? "Heck yeah, absolutely," affirmed Colbert. Willie Parker's injury is not expected to be a factor, but the Steelers may be looking for a tandem partner after Najeh Davenport's poor showing against the Jaguars in the playoffs.
Source: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Related: Najeh Davenport

[Mister J]

The Chargers are talking an awful lot of smack for a team that, not only lost in the playoffs last year, but also got obliterated earlier in the season.

I like a team having some swagger to them, but get a clue.

[Jerry!]

They've been talking the last two years, and at this point, what do they have to lose? They're most likely going to be playing with all 3 of their best offensive weapons not 100%.

[Mister J]

They don't have anything to lose; the prohibitive underdog rarely does. I don't believe stuff like that really affects the game, but it does change the framing of the talkative group from undaunted characters to braying jackasses. It puzzles me why anyone openly chooses to be the latter. Go out and beat somebody first. Just a personal thing.

[Showtime]

Anybody hear the Randy Moss press conference this morning?

http://cbs2chicago.com/sports/Moss.denies.allegations.2.631034.html

[Showtime]

They don't have anything to lose; the prohibitive underdog rarely does. I don't believe stuff like that really affects the game, but it does change the framing of the talkative group from undaunted characters to braying jackasses. It puzzles me why anyone openly chooses to be the latter. Go out and beat somebody first. Just a personal thing.

I never even heard of the player who was doing the trash talking.

[Excel]

Anybody hear the Randy Moss press conference this morning?

http://cbs2chicago.com/sports/Moss.denies.allegations.2.631034.html

Sounds like Kobe 2.0

Woman wanted to scare him into paying money or else she'd damage his repaired rep. Until actual charges filed or police look into it, its no biggie. Those orders are incredibly easy to get.

Please, this is such bs. The case will get thrown.

She expects people to believe "Randy hurt her and then wouldnt let her get treatment"

Explain how he wouldnt let you get treatment when he has practice and games ever day? The judge will use his head and realize she didnt get treatment on purpose so she could sue his ass. She'll lose all credibility and itll get thrown out.

I just hope the media doesnt go crazy over this...

[Showtime]

I just dont want this to turn into a distraction.

[Dark Donnie]

Posted it a page back....Oh Randy

[Excel]

My ass, Randy didnt do ****tt

[Dark Donnie]

My ass, Randy didnt do ****tt

Thanks.....you sound like a delusional fan.....:hoboj:


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-patriotsprogress&prov=ap&type=lgns


Patriots to honor young fan booed in Indianapolis

By HOWARD ULMAN, AP Sports Writer
January 15, 2008

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. (AP) -- Patriots owner Robert Kraft sat behind his wide desk and marveled at how his team's jersey could be the target of so many boos -- even when it's worn by a 14-year-old girl.

This wasn't Randy Moss or Rodney Harrison hearing the catcalls. They're used to it.

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This was Anna Grant, a high school freshman who had worked hard to win the Punt, Pass & Kick competition in her age group as the team's representative.

When she was introduced along with the other winners before the fourth quarter of San Diego's playoff win last Sunday, she was the only one booed by the crowd in Indianapolis, home of New England's fiercest rival.

"Why should a champion be booed?" the boss of the three-time Super Bowl winners said Tuesday. "She won an intensive competition. She's supposed to be honored."

His team is getting the same reaction -- not because of the spying incident in the season opener but because fans like to see teams at the top get knocked off, he said. If the Chargers can't do it Sunday, New England will be headed to its fourth Super Bowl in seven seasons.

But first comes the coin flip before the AFC championship and Grant will be out on the field for that, invited by Kraft, who felt badly that she had been booed.

"What I decided is that we would honor her here before this game," Kraft said in an interview in his office filled with photos, footballs and other memorabilia. "We will recognize her as the winner on the field. Our fans will know."

Grant returned from school Tuesday and heard a phone message from Andre Tippett, the Patriots' executive director of community affairs and a former star linebacker.

She called back and was ecstatic when Tippett extended the invitation -- plus tickets for her, her parents and two brothers -- to take part.

"I was just in shock," she said.

Kraft knows the hoots were not directed at the high school freshman from Stratham, N.H., about 20 miles north of the Massachusetts border. It's just that the jersey provokes an instant response, usually a negative one.

Grant also understands, and even smiled when she heard the boos.

"Before I went down there, my friends said, `You know, you'll probably get booed,"' she said in a telephone interview. "I was kind of waiting for it.

"It really didn't bother me at all," she added. "People at the game came up to me afterward and said, `It's not you. It's your jersey."'

It wasn't always that way.

When Adam Vinatieri's last-play field goal gave the Patriots their first championship as huge underdogs to the St. Louis Rams after the 2001 season, red, white and blue confetti -- not boos -- poured down in the Louisiana Superdome.

It came less than five months after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

"I remember saying when I hoisted the (championship) trophy, `We are all Patriots and tonight the Patriots are world champions,"' Kraft said. "We were the underdogs. No one expected (it). Now what's happened is, we've had a modicum of success.

"I noticed it with the second title that we went after. Already people had switched and I think people outside of New England want to see different (winners). It's sort of like the Yankees. There was a resentment, but a respect for the Yankees."

The Yankees have declined since their dominance of the late 90s. The Patriots are better than ever, perhaps the best team in NFL history.

"Jealousy and envy comes in the more you win and people say, `Give someone else a chance and let someone else do it,"' Kraft said. "I understand that."

It's better than the alternative.

Before he bought the team in January 1994, the Patriots had missed the playoffs for the previous seven seasons. In just his third year, they were in the Super Bowl -- losing to Green Bay in the same building where they would win their first title five years later.

At least fans care now, even if they boo.

"I see it as sort of respect in a way," Kraft said. "I think 15 years ago, 18 years ago, someone could have worn our jersey and I just think there would have been no reaction."

Grant plans to wear some Patriots apparel again Sunday, probably a hat. The reaction will be much warmer.

"In a way, the fact that this young lady was booed is a compliment to the New England Patriots fans because we're relevant," Kraft said. "And, we're good."

[Dark Donnie]

Suicide Watch on Surf DUI

Report: Dungy out as Colts coach, Caldwell in

Citing a league source, Profootballtalk.com reports that Colts coach Tony Dungy will step down and be replaced by assistant head coach Jim Caldwell.

Jan. 16 - 2:21 pm et

[Mister J]

I just dont want this to turn into a distraction.
If it was Moss' other teams, it might have been. The inmates were running those asylums. However, this is The Grey Hood's team we're talking about. They've got him pegged as a whole new Randy. Brady called him a team leader at some point and I needed help getting off the floor afterwards. They'll use this to rally around like everything else thrown at them this season. The bastards.

The only concern I'd have if it were to affect Moss, but he doesn't seem to be any more than bothered.

[Mister J]

Patriots to honor young fan booed in Indianapolis Nice gesture from Kraft.

She's a fan and knew what's up. The Colts fans had the right idea. I'd have booed her too. :o
Report: Dungy out as Colts coach, Caldwell in
Our Indianapolis Colts are rumored to be losing their head coach. :eek:

I like Dungy. If this is true, I'm glad he's leaving on his terms. :up:

However, outside of Reggie Wayne and Marlin Jackson, **** everybody associated with the Colts. :lmao:

[Dark Donnie]

Nice gesture from Kraft.

She's a fan and knew what's up. The Colts fans had the right idea. I'd have booed her too. :o


It is a nice gesture....but that would have happened in most stadiums if there rival was shown on the jumbotron....it probably would have happened in Foxboro if the circumstances were reversed.

[Fran]

Come to St. Louis, Tony!

[Dark Donnie]

Hmm - Garrett not interested???

Garrett's rookie mistake
Not taking job shows that assistant has much to learn
Mike Preston
Baltimore Sun
January 16, 2008

If Jason Garrett becomes the Ravens' head coach, let's hope he won't show as much inexperience during the season as he showed yesterday.

Garrett spent most of the day interviewing with top Ravens officials about their vacant head coaching position and walked away from their offer, one of the most coveted jobs in professional sports.

The Ravens and Garrett are still negotiating, and Garrett said all the right things as he met briefly with the media. But he didn't answer a lot of questions. Maybe it was best he didn't because he had a lot on his mind.

Or maybe Garrett really doesn't want to become a head coach. If he was really passionate about becoming a head coach, Garrett would have taken the job.

But Garrett is just 41 and is in only his third season as an NFL assistant. He is just three years removed from being a player.

There was some panic in his eyes yesterday and apparently some concern about the Ravens' job. But if Garrett had done his homework, he would be the new Ravens coach.

Yesterday should have been a formality instead of more screening. Garrett should have known the Ravens have one of the best front offices in the NFL, and an owner in Steve Bisciotti who is passionate about winning.

The Ravens have problems, but they care enough about winning to try to cover them up. But he doesn't know general manager Ozzie Newsome or Bisciotti well, or how badly they want to win.

He certainly knows Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones well. Jones has been in a similar position with the Ravens before. In 1997, the Ravens had agreed in principle to a contract with Cowboys linebacker Broderick Thomas. While Thomas was sleeping at his hotel room in Baltimore, Jones called him, got him to agree to a new deal with the Cowboys, then sent out his private plane to bring the linebacker back to Dallas.

Jones loves Garrett, hand-picking him to become the Cowboys' offensive coordinator this season with hopes of him one day becoming Dallas' head coach.

I can imagine Jones calling Garrett several times yesterday, increasing his pay by perhaps $1 million to $2 million a year. I can see him doing everything imaginable to keep Garrett in Dallas.

Garrett was expected to be in Atlanta today to interview for the Falcons' head coaching job. He'll probably be given another contract offer.

This all has to make Garrett nervous. He has never been through anything like this. I'm sure he wants to play these teams against each other, but I'm not sure he has been around the league enough to pull it off.

No one really wants the Atlanta job. The Falcons' franchise quarterback is in prison. Their starting running back is old. Their former head coach left them before the regular season was completed.

Dallas is very attractive. The Cowboys are in their peak years. They have a good defense, a franchise-caliber quarterback, two good running backs and a go-to receiver.

But the one thing that the Cowboys can't give Garrett right now is a head coaching position.

The Ravens can, but they do have problems. They have older players on defense, no long-term solution at quarterback and a grumpy set of veterans with big egos. Their best player, linebacker Terrell Suggs, is unsigned.

The stiff-arm by Garrett put the Ravens in a bad position. They would like to lure Indianapolis assistant coach Jim Caldwell from the Colts, but he probably won't leave until Tony Dungy decides early next week whether he wants to retire as the team's head coach.

But don't count the Ravens out as far as Garrett. Bisciotti is rich, and the organization doesn't like to be told no. Bisciotti will remain in contact with Garrett, and he'll be in a bidding war with the Cowboys and the Falcons.

But after yesterday, the kid from Princeton didn't seem to have a real clue about what was going on.

I'll chalk it up to inexperience because a veteran coach would have completed the deal here. Either that, or maybe he is in coaching for the money. And the Ravens don't need that anymore.




Exit Garrett, enter Harbaugh?

If Cowboys coach shuns job here, Eagles assistant could receive offer
By Jamison Hensley | Sun Reporter
January 16, 2008

When Jason Garrett didn't accept the Ravens' head coaching offer and left team headquarters yesterday, the Dallas offensive coordinator likely opened the door for Philadelphia Eagles secondary coach John Harbaugh, a league source said.

While the Ravens are still making a run at Garrett and are continuing to negotiate with him, the team understands that landing its top candidate might have become more difficult because he is being pursued by the Dallas Cowboys and the Atlanta Falcons.

According to the source, the Ravens are ready to hire Harbaugh as head coach over the next couple of days if Garrett is unavailable.

Harbaugh, 45, was the only candidate interviewed by the Ravens who was neither a coordinator nor an assistant head coach. He became the Eagles' secondary coach after spending nine seasons as the special teams coach.

Considered the dark-horse candidate, Harbaugh impressed the Ravens' coaching search committee with his energetic coaching style and charismatic personality. A finalist for the UCLA job last month, Harbaugh is the brother of former Ravens quarterback Jim Harbaugh.

The Ravens aggressively tried to hire Garrett yesterday, meeting with him for seven hours at team headquarters. But Garrett left for a second interview with the Atlanta Falcons, who have already offered him their coaching job, according to the NFL Network.

The Cowboys are also in the hunt to keep Garrett as their offensive coordinator. According to a league source, Dallas owner Jerry Jones made a counteroffer to match the contracts of the Ravens or the Falcons.

"I'm going to continue through this process that I'm in right now," said Garrett, 41, on leaving the Ravens facility. "At some point, we'll make some decisions on both sides."

The Ravens will continue with their second round of interviews, but they aren't scheduled to meet with anyone today because general manager Ozzie Newsome will be in Houston watching college prospects practice for the East-West Shrine Game.

Newsome declined to comment on the coaching search, and Bisciotti was not available to comment.

"We had a good day of interviews," Ravens spokesman Kevin Byrne said. "It's the start of our second round. [Garrett] is the first one in for the second round. We have more interviews in the second round coming up later in the week. And that's what we have to say right now."

According to a league source, the Ravens have ruled out veteran coach Marty Schottenheimer, which means Harbaugh is the team's next option.

Harbaugh could travel to Baltimore as early as today.

Asked if Schottenheimer would coach this season, his agent, Trace Armstrong, said yesterday: "There is a possibility. As Marty has said and I have said, it's about fit. He still has a passion for coaching, and he's got top-notch assistants that expressed interest to be a part of any staff that he'll assemble. He's enjoying retirement, but if there's a place with the right fit, he definitely would be interested."

While Garrett spent the day with the Ravens, former Ravens defensive coordinator Rex Ryan interviewed for a second time yesterday morning in Atlanta. He returned to Baltimore unannounced and crossed paths with Garrett at Ravens headquarters.

If Garrett returns to being a coordinator in Dallas, Ryan likely would be hired by the Falcons. If Garrett is hired by the Falcons, it probably would eliminate Ryan's best shot at becoming a head coach this season.

Garrett arrived in Baltimore on Monday night and had dinner with the Bisciotti family and members of the organization. He came to Ravens headquarters yesterday at 9:57 a.m. and was greeted by team president Dick Cass.

While team officials met with Garrett, his wife, Brill, was given a tour of the facility by Cass and then was driven around to see the area. Before Garrett left, he met one last time with Cass, who is a Princeton graduate like Garrett.

But Garrett decided to leave without becoming the Ravens' head coach.

"It's been an exciting time for me to be here and be around this organization," Garrett said. "I heard nothing but great things about it prior to coming here, and everything I've seen since I've been here has really been off the charts. It was a great second visit with these guys, and I really enjoyed the process of doing that."

Harbaugh is a damn good coach :(

[Fran]

yikes, I'm surprised he didn't take it.

Looks like he wants to be the next Cowboys coach...

[Dark Donnie]

Kind of a dumb move on his part, nothing is certain

[Fran]

I would not be stunned at all if Jones is talking to Jason about being the head coach. I'm sure that Wade's 13-4 year wasn't good enough after a one-and-done playoff appearance.

[Mister J]

I don't know. That's a pretty big project in Baltimore; that offense needs major work and the defense, while still solid, is starting to slow.

If Jones wants to throw some more cash at Garrett, I don't see a lot of downside in him turning the Ravens down. He has a good situation in Dallas on the offensive side of the ball, he'll still retain his luster as a hot commodity and a number of coaching jobs will open up every year. He's a fairly young guy and it seems to be a buyer's market.

[Fran]

Exactly. I bet he's at least on the phone with Jerry. He thinks very highly of Garrett. Hell, I'd want him to coach my Rams if Linehan doesn't work out :o

[Mister J]

You want every decent name out there, coach or player. Have some shame! :cmad:

If you can't locate any, we've got plenty to go around in Miami. :dry:
:waa:

[Dark Donnie]

I don't know. That's a pretty big project in Baltimore; that offense needs major work and the defense, while still solid, is starting to slow.

If Jones wants to throw some more cash at Garrett, I don't see a lot of downside in him turning the Ravens down. He has a good situation in Dallas on the offensive side of the ball, he'll still retain his luster as a hot commodity and a number of coaching jobs will open up every year. He's a fairly young guy and it seems to be a buyer's market.

Jones has to have an agreement in place with Garrett to be the HC. I think the article is more or less saying that for a guy who is 3 years from playing, and only one year into coaching at any level he better be sure he has that Dallas job secure.

[Fran]

Dude, I just want a winning season. :csad:

And even when Linehan had a full healthy squad, they went 8-8, after blowing a 4-1 record.

Linehan has one more year, and I'm sure the Rams will do something after that.

[Dark Donnie]

Dungy is now denying reports, according to Mort

[Dark Donnie]

Badger

Chiefs tab Gailey to handle reeling offense

Chiefs hired Chan Gailey as offensive coordinator.

Gailey, 56, was fired by Georgia Tech as head coach in November. He's been a coordinator in the league with Miami, Denver, and Pittsburgh, and for two years was Dallas' head coach. The well-traveled Gailey is known as a conservative offensive mind who favors using the run to open up passing lanes, so he should mesh perfectly with Chiefs coach Herm Edwards. Jan. 16 - 4:25 pm et
Source: Kansas City Star

[Varient]

I - who doesn't watch much football, must laugh at the obvious hypocritical nature of the San Diego Chargers last game.

EVERYBODY WANTED/EXPECTED THEM TO LOSE - INCLUDING THE REPS.


AMAZING.:whatever:

[Excel]

Judging from the reports I can say what I think happened with Randy.

Randy and this girl were having sex at her place and he hurt in the midst of weather he was just being aggressive or meant it, hence why he is guilty yet its also an accident and shell say he didnt let her get help because people coud realize what they was up to and Randys married with kids.

[Mister J]

In that case, I'd say Randy is trying to take that 'The Freak' nickname he got at Marshall to another level. :o

[Kelly]

Judging from the reports I can say what I think happened with Randy.

Randy and this girl were having sex at her place and he hurt in the midst of weather he was just being aggressive or meant it, hence why he is guilty yet its also an accident and shell say he didnt let her get help because people coud realize what they was up to and Randys married with kids.

Either way............................................... ..he screwed up.:o

[Dark Donnie]

Judging from the reports I can say what I think happened with Randy.

Randy and this girl were having sex at her place and he hurt in the midst of weather he was just being aggressive or meant it, hence why he is guilty yet its also an accident and shell say he didnt let her get help because people coud realize what they was up to and Randys married with kids.

Randy is that you?

[Mister J]

Either way............................................... ..he screwed up.:o
Actually, he might have ...

Nah, skip it. Too easy. :o

[Excel]

Either way............................................... ..he screwed up.:o

Act. hes not married, just had kids I believe

EDIT: Nope, he aint married so he done **** wrong. Sounds like the womans just being a ***** ala that Kobe chick.

[Alex The Great]

so.....wuts the lates on all the HC situations with all these teams?

[Dark Donnie]

Cowboys Offense-TM-Cowboys Jan. 16 - 5:10 pm et

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports Cowboys offensive coordinator Jason Garrett will return to Dallas this week before deciding his future.

Garrett will convene with owner Jerry Jones and his family to weigh his options. Schefter says Garrett will be deciding whether to become head coach of the Ravens, the Falcons, or the future head coach in Dallas, though probably not in 2008. Schefter adds that if Garrett turns down the Atlanta job, Colts assistant head coach Jim Caldwell will be in play there.
Related: Falcons, Ravens, Colts

[Dark Donnie]

Act. hes not married, just had kids I believe

EDIT: Nope, he aint married so he done **** wrong. Sounds like the womans just being a ***** ala that Kobe chick.

Randy Moss is married..according to his myspace anyway.

[Excel]

Are you sure? He has kids but I cant find anything saying hes married.

[Fran]

Judging from the reports I can say what I think happened with Randy.

Randy and this girl were having sex at her place and he hurt in the midst of weather he was just being aggressive or meant it, hence why he is guilty yet its also an accident and shell say he didnt let her get help because people coud realize what they was up to and Randys married with kids.

But he's still stupid for committing adultery.

HAHAHAHAHAHA He likes angry sex HAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh wait, never mind. He's a Patriot. He's off the hook :up:

[Dark Donnie]

Are you sure? He has kids but I cant find anything saying hes married.

I saw it in one of the Globe articles.

Pacman Jones-DB-Titans Jan. 16 - 6:01 pm et

A woman who accused Pacman Jones of assault and battery in Las Vegas has dropped her claim.

The woman withdrew a complaint that Jones sucker punched her at a strip club on January 3. This is good news, but the NFL had told Pacman to stay away from strip joints entirely after his alleged involvement in a 2007 shooting.
Source: Nashville City Paper

I wonder how much she got?

[Fran]

I think I read on an ESPN report that Randy is married :huh:

[Showtime]

Randy Moss is married.

[Alex The Great]

and you guys care why???? :sleepy:

[Fran]

and you guys care why???? :sleepy:

Because he committed a sin called adultery and he's stupid.

[Alex The Great]

ok.....:sleepy:


as long as he keeps giving NE wins then :oldrazz::up:

:shrugs:

[E. Nygma]

why is this such a big deal

Randy Moss has been physically assaulting WR's for the last 10 years and getting away with it. This isn't much different.

[Fran]

:rolleyes: Not a real fan of the game or of any of its morals.

You must like Pacman.

[Kelly]

Act. hes not married, just had kids I believe

EDIT: Nope, he aint married so he done **** wrong. Sounds like the womans just being a ***** ala that Kobe chick.

I'm not saying it was wrong because he's married or not married....


He's stupid because he allowed himself to get anywhere near a situation like this......these guys have to wach themselves, they are targets, and if they are stupid......they are easy targets......

[Kelly]

and you guys care why???? :sleepy:


Oh please if this was a guy from any other team, you would BE ALL OVER IT......so don't even go there with your.....meh.....its no biggie.........we know better.....:whatever:

[Showtime]

Because he committed a sin called adultery and he's stupid.

The media will be all over it, but it won't affect the Patriots for a second as a team.

[E. Nygma]

The media will be all over it, but it won't affect the Patriots for a second as a team.

Yeah Belichick was having an affair for like 10 years, they were fine through that!

[Excel]

I'm not saying it was wrong because he's married or not married....


He's stupid because he allowed himself to get anywhere near a situation like this......these guys have to wach themselves, they are targets, and if they are stupid......they are easy targets......

So they cant get laid?? Because any chick they get with opens em for rape charge ala Kobe.

[Mister J]

No boom-boom before the big game. :nono:

[Kelly]

So they cant get laid?? Because any chick they get with opens em for rape charge ala Kobe.

What, they can't find someone they know and can trust....they have to go and get a random girl.....thats so stupid, in so many ways.....

[Hunter Rider]

So it was THE Randy Moss that was in jiggy trouble ?

[Fran]

Yes ma'am.

[Hunter Rider]

What, they can't find someone they know and can trust....they have to go and get a random girl.....thats so stupid, in so many ways.....

Well that's part of the trappings of being a star, the girls and parties come easy, some don't go that route but some love to bask in their fame, the problem is many don't know who to trust, they wonder if they are getting set up to have their coin take and love the idea of variety, then of course they can get jipped the other way, where the girl sleeps with them and cries rape.

In some ways i can see why guys like Brady and Romo have went for women that are themselves affluent, it takes away the "she's after my money" worry and also removes the rape trap, even if the girl is only with him to add more star to her cache' he can have fun along the way and not lose his money or get accused of a crime.

[Hunter Rider]

Yes ma'am.

:cmad:.....I can't help but laugh every time i see you avvy. :woot:

[Fran]

It might be my favorite one ever.

Besides the kitty-cat dance.

[NewYorkSpider]

I believe Randy. The woman doesn't even sound like she has a credible story.

[Jerry!]

The timing of it seems fishy.

[Excel]

What, they can't find someone they know and can trust....they have to go and get a random girl.....thats so stupid, in so many ways.....

Randy says he knews the girl 11 years and trusted her and even now has trouble getting mad at her or meaning her harm. So trust and knowing her really was not an issue.

[Dark Donnie]

Ravens Offense-TM-Ravens Jan. 16 - 9:28 pm et

The Baltimore Sun reports Jason Garrett will choose between becoming the Ravens' head coach or staying in Dallas. A decision could come Thursday.

The Falcons are out of contention. We suspect Cowboys owner Jerry Jones is willing to match whatever the Ravens offer financially. Garrett's waffling isn't sitting well in Baltimore, but he's still the best option the Ravens could have to turn around their perennially anemic offense. If Garrett balks at their offer, the Ravens will likely turn to Eagles DBs coach John Harbaugh. They are no longer considering Marty Schottenheimer or Rex Ryan.
Source: Baltimore Sun

[LegendaryCaleb]

Yeah...Heard the Randy Moss thing on the Radio this morning...
Man, I hate Moss...

[Bond]

I hate the whole Patriots team besides Tom Brady.

[LegendaryCaleb]

I hate the whole Patriots team including Tom Brady.

[Bond]

I can't hate him. :(

Sure he rips apart every team's defense... but he doesn't brag, never talks smack, and is completely likable. Which pisses me off.

[Hunter Rider]

Brady is the man.

[Bond]

Brady is the man.
Yep.