HYPE SURVIVOR 19: Creepy on a Whole New Level - Day 17: THE GRAND FINALE

[Matt]

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It started out with this:

1) Erzengel
2) Darren Daring
3) Immortalfire
4) Farmerfran
5) Enterthemadnesss
6) Darthphere
7) Kipobe
8) Ronnyshade
9) Corinthian™
10) Gotendbz-2
11) Kmack
12) Socrates
13) Elisha Cuthbert
14) Abaddon
15) Spider-Nerd
16) BadgerPhil
17) StorminNormin
18) Sofa
19) VenomDrool
20) Movies205
21) TEDDY
22) Prognosticator
23) X-Chick
24) Kypade
25) JewishHobbit
26) SupremePower
27) EL ASESINO
28) Asteroid-Man
29) Exploding Boy
30) Calvin
31) RogueLDN


The 31 players who signed up for this game. Only 20 were choosen.


Kipobe
Erzengel
Darren Daring
Immortalfire
Farmerfran
Enterthemadnesss
Darthphere
Kmack
Socrates
Elisha Cuthbert
Abaddon 2
JewishHobbit
StorminNorman
Sofa
VenomDrool
Movies205
TEDDY
Hippie Hunter
Asteroid-Man
Calvin

They were then drafted to form the original two tribes: All the King's Men and The Hooters Pimps...unfortunately Movies and Teddy were left behind.

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One by one players were eliminated

Sofa
Darthphere
Socrates
Calvin
Abaddon
Kmack
Elisha Cuthbert

Until Day 9 when the merge occured and All the King's Pimps were unified:

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These 11 fought it out to earn their way to the finals...And each day, a new casualty occurred

Asteroid-Man
Enterthemadness
Venom Drool
StorminNorman
Darren Daring
Jewhob
Immortalfire
Farmerfran
Erzengel

Now only two remain.....They clawed their way through the masses to get to the top...and now they are in the hands of the 7 men they eliminated.

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Two very different players with two very different strategies...but only one...SURVIVOR!

[Matt]

Anyway, yeah...now that the melodrama is over, allow me to welcome former players, Jurors, our esteemed final two, and of course Mee to the Hype Survivor 19 Finale! During this grand extravaganza you will get to see the final two respond to questions and accusations from their former players, you will see a winner of Hype Survivor 19 crowned...and the mysterious ghost host will be revealed! Stay tuned! PMs with questions for our final two will be sent shortly.

[StorminNorman]

I am going to be pissed when Teddy wins this thing :(

[Matt]

I am going to be pissed when Teddy wins this thing :(

DUDE! Why'd you have to go and ruin the twist?

[Erzengel]

It's nice that I can add a Top 3 to my resume. :up:

[StorminNorman]

DUDE! Why'd you have to go and ruin the twist?

Thats what you get for not rigging the game in my favor :cmad:

[Eric Draven]

This game is already done?




I would cry if Kipobe loses again :csad:

[Matt]

One answer set in.

[Matt]

This game is already done?




I would cry if Kipobe loses again :csad:


I cut all the trivia challenges down to 24 hours. It makes a huge difference.

[hippie_hunter]

In one sentence, tell us why you deserve to win.
I think that I played this game very well, that's really the best I can say :csad:

I have no questions or comments.
NEXT!

Two questions:

1) I believe that there is a fine line between playing honorably yet competatively, and playing deceitfully. On which side of that line do you feel you have fallen on in this game? Why have you done so? Please share at least two examples.
It depends. I feel that I played honorably. I tried as hard as possible to be loyal to my allies. And I lied very rarely.

The only time I truly lied was to Darthphere. Phere warned me that Kipobe was lazy and would lose interest in this game very soon. That he could not be relied upon. I sensed the rivalry between the two and I felt that I could use that to my advantage. But I just couldn’t. For some reason, I couldn’t. Then the second day came and our tribe lost the challenge, Kipobe was exiled, and we had to vote someone out. Matt said the votes were due at 8:00 (the PM was sent at 7:50, making me think that I had 10 minutes to vote!). I PMed Phere telling him that Kipobe could not be voted out and that I was voting Asteroid-Man, which I did. But then Matt PMed me back telling me that I had 24 hours, not 10 minutes and that I should think more about the vote (consulting my teammates). Kipobe then PMed me telling me that Darthphere betrayed our tribe and provided some good explainations why. I then considered that Kipobe would be a much more reliable ally than Darthphere would be and I changed my vote from Asteroid-Man to Darthphere. I actually did feel bad a bit. But later on when I heard how much of a traitorous bastard Phere really was in previous Survivor games took that feeling away.

There was another time I was faced with a dilemma. I am going to keep the identities of these players a secret on account that this went over PMs and PMs should remain private. I was told that my one of my main allies was a traitor and only used us as pawns. When this ally who was suspected of being the traitor asked me what was going on, I hid the truth from him. I told him that I talked to no one, I didn’t want to rat out two other people. But another person said, I was talking to those people. So I had a dilemma of trying not to get two of my allies exposed, while trying to remain in the game, while trying to keep the image that I was not a backstabber, which I wasn’t, while pretending that I did not know that he was a traitor. I refused to play this game backstabbing. One of my allies simply then told me to confess that I knew he was a traitor and pretend that I was mad. So I did, Then, the ally who was the supposed traitor asked me who the person was. He already knew, he just wanted to see if I was loyal enough to tell him. I told him that I did not want to backstab anyone at all and I would tell him eventually, which I did, once the person who told me the info was gone and the reveal would have no impact at all on his game. I think this was the least honorable thing I did.

Overall, I think I did play this game honorably. I feel that I played this game as honestly as I could (excluding Darthphere). I was even somewhat nice to Asteroid-Man by telling him not to trust anyone when he said who he knew who to trust (we were all going to vote for him eventually, which we did) and answering his survey thingy. I played this game without backstabbing at all.

2) Do you think Matt screwed JewishHobbit?
I actually see both sides in this issue. On one hand, you did break this rule more than once, despite the fact that you had no PM saying that you were exiled. However, the rules did state that the penalty votes were meant to go towards tie-breaking votes and this rule was bent to where they were used against you during the tribal council that you got kicked out of.

Tell me who you have been honorable or dishonorable to during your quest to reach the final two?
Kipobe – Honorable

Kmack – No relation

Calvin – No relation. Voted for him in Tribal Council on Day 5 because he was dead weight.

Venom Drool – No relation. I ended up voting for you one day because my allies said it was best to do so. No hard feelings :csad:

JewishHobbit – Honorable

Asteroid-Man – I think we were all a little mean to him. But I was somewhat nice to him. I originally voted for him at Day 3, but changed my vote to Darthphere. Then I voted for him again on Day 9 which ended in him getting kicked out.

Brodie – Honorable, we did not have a full alliance, but I considered us psuedo-allies due to our connections with Kipobe. I shared some info with him.

Darthphere – He’s an iffy, see above for why

Erzengel – He tried to get rid of me, I tried to get rid of him. Simple as that. Apparently we saw each other as the biggest threat to each other.

Immortalfire – No relation

Abbadon – He offered me an alliance, but he got booted off before anything at all could formulate

Elisha Cuthbert – No relation, except for making me a complete badass in his Hype: The Series :up:!

Socrates – No relation.

StorminNorman – He too is an iffy. I was told he’d be a good person to ally with, so when Norman offered me an alliance, I accepted. The pair-up at first ended up with rather poor results, which made me think that I was being played, which annoyed me, greatly. But there was a time that he helped me out quite a bit (TEDDY’s challenge), which made me think that he was helpful, which settled my nerves. But then something happened (I think I was told something), that made me question StorminNorman yet again. So I ended up voting for him. Then TEDDY's nigh-invulnerable retarded reward prize saved him (then I proceded to defeat him in the "Fixing Up TEDDY's mistakes" challenge, which put me in the spot where I am today :word: )

farmerfran - Honorable, not only that, I promised him a spot in the final three if he would vote for Erzengel. He voted for Kipobe which ended up costing him because Kipobe and Erz voted for him. If only he voted for Erz, he would have been in the final three that I promised him.

Congratulations to both of you on making the final two.
Two Questions:

1) I wondered if you had a specific way you would do things from the beginning, or did you "wing it" along the way?
I basically went along with my allies for most of the game. They said, vote this way, I voted this way. They came up with a plan, I went along with the plan. I'm not a leader and I'm not going to try and be what I'm not. Though when it got to the final four, I had to wing it on fear that I was the next one to go.

2) And, are either of you plotting revenge on TEDDY?
I'll kill him :cmad:

Seriously, most of the stuff I said to TEDDY was just in fun. Just like Brodie constantly complaining to Matt. Except for TEDDY's challenge, that did piss me off.

Whats more important: To be an ethical player and honor your alliances or to win at any cost ?
I feel that being an ethical player that honors his or her alliances is better than winning at any cost. I don't like to backstab. Ask Kipobe where I told him in full detail that I did not like that idea.

Hippie:Give me a 800 word essay breaking down the themes of Three Times a Lady: A Darren Daring Adventure, my ongoing story found in the fan fic section. Also, did you vote for me?
First of all I did not vote for you. At all. Second, why do I have to write the 800 word essay :csad:

The first chapter of Three Times A Lady: A Darren Daring Adventure was just to simply show how badass Brodie apparently is. This is evident by Brodie calling the main character Darren Daring (his current screen name), the Dashing Young Man, by having the Cigar Man turn gay stating: “I wasn't attracted to men until I met him. He may be our only hope,” and having the main character jump out of a window. It seems that Brodie will do something important when Cigar Man stated, He may be our only hope. But what? That is the question.
The second chapter of Three Times A Lady: A Darren Daring Adventure was to further show how badass Brodie apparently is by having him carry a gun, kill one of Maxwell’s demon’s customers, and interrogating Halcohol. This chapter further diverged into Darren’s character by showing his intelligence. He doesn’t know where the President of the United States (Erzengel) lives (Washington D.C.), and confuses Washington D.C. for the State of Washington. This chapter is rather odd considering that it has made Maxwell’s Demon, a man, into a female hooker and DBella as a man-whore. Perhaps it is promoting transvestitism. DBella’s inclusion was probally mandatory, since she has to be in EVERY, Hype fan-fiction.
The third chapter of Three Times A Lady: A Darren Daring Adventure showed what Darren’s career was, a hitman. He’s being paid $120.00 to kill President Erzengel. It also seems that Darren is a rather important person because he is able to see the President without an appointment and get through the White House without security noticing his weapons. However, his intelligence is further lacking when he ignores the fact that the President has a Secret Service. This chapter had me wondering about what kind of man Erzengel is when he has two hooks for hands and apparently is working for someone. With the Cajun Halcohol, German jaguar, the French farmerfran, the buff Kmack, and the transvestite Maxwell’s Demon, it is apparent that Brodie is trying to write his characters as offensively as possible.
The Interlude, appeared to have no importance at all. Brodie continues to write his characters as offensively as possible, with Darthphere’s condom breaking and the sexual deviant PWN3R RANGER. However, I think the DOG LIPS Commemorative Trophy for Awesomenisity and the female black-cloaked character with the El Camino will have some importance in the future. It also appears that this fan fiction is going to be a death fest. Already we’ve had a no-named customer die (portrayed by Ben Urich), and DBella die. Now Darthphere and PWN3R RANGER are dead. I think the body count will continue to rise as the story goes on.
The fourth chapter of Three Times A Lady: A Darren Daring Adventure continues with Brodie’s style of offensive writing, by portraying the police officer, Childlike Wild, as a rapist. In this chapter, Darren gets a sidekick by the name of enterthemadness. Like the real, ETM, this version of ETM is also incompetent. Having Kipobe as a police officer might show, that Brodie thinks of Kipobe as a Nazi-pig who takes orders from anyone
The fifth chapter of Three Times A Lady: A Darren Daring Adventure continues with Brodie’s exaggeration of how awesome Darren is and the unbeleivablity. Just how does Darren, posses a .44 Magnum in a prison. How would the guards let this be? And picking a fight with JustABill was to continue Darren’s badassadry. The drug enduced dream was probably to show Brodie’s real life addiction to drugs and alcohol. The appearance of Tukiluka is probably to show a bit of Darren’s origins and I have yet to determine why Sofa has appeared asides from helping Darren out. But why is ETM the new top dawg. Just how does a prisoner who is not even 5 feet, end up like that. Naming the prison Retcon Prison, is to show that Brodi is indeed a Hyper. A member of Superhero Hype, a website dedicated to superhero and comic book movies and TV shows. Retcons are changes in a characters history in comic book lingo.
The title alone of Three Times A Lady: A Darren Daring Adventure show’s Brodie’s piss-poor competency in Spanish on account that he can’t even reach to six. ETM’s gang called the Griddles and the constant mention of pancakes and waffles, probably show Brodie’s love of breakfast. It appears that my theories that Sofa is a useless character are true. More of Darren’s origin is shown with the scene of his birth, to further show his awesomeness of being to talk right out of the womb and being born at Awesome o’clock.
The next part of Three Times A Lady: A Darren Daring Adventure is another pointless interlude. It starts off with Kypade having an affair with President Erzengel’s wife X-Chick. This is to show irony when Erz asks Kypade to look into it. The affair is in this story possibly because Brodie’s wife cheated on him with Erz. I have noticed that everyone drives an El Camero, perhaps this is Brodie’s favorite type of car.
The seventh chapter of Three Times A Lady: A Darren Daring Adventure is odd. Why does Erz want to destroy all awesomeness? Why does the author keep pointing out that Darren is so damn awesome? Just how is it possible for Sofa to be the traitor? She’s supposed to be a useless character. The death fest continues with the death of jaguar. I suspect that Erz is the villain because deep down, Brodie hates Erz.
The eighth chapter of Three Times A Lady: A Darren Daring Adventure starts off commenting on Sofa’s fine, fine breasts. Perhaps, the author has a crush on the real life Sofa. For once Sofa shows some competency by revealing the true plans of bringing an awesome utopia onto this world. Yet, Darren was not invited to join the Commune. Perhaps it is to show how Brodie was perhaps rejected in real life?
Over all the story is alright. I think I should have a part in it and it would be a lot cooler. It has a lot of awesomesauce in it though, and that’s a no brainer plus! :up:

[AndThePickles]

I didn't read hippie_hunter's essay, but yay finale!

[Fran]

Brodie had the best question, no doubt. Hilarious.

[StorminNorman]

StorminNorman – He too is an iffy. I was told he’d be a good person to ally with, so when Norman offered me an alliance, I accepted. The pair-up at first ended up with rather poor results, which made me think that I was being played, which annoyed me, greatly. But there was a time that he helped me out quite a bit (TEDDY’s challenge), which made me think that he was helpful, which settled my nerves. But then something happened (I think I was told something), that made me question StorminNorman yet again. So I ended up voting for him. Then TEDDY's nigh-invulnerable retarded reward prize saved him (then I proceded to defeat him in the "Fixing Up TEDDY's mistakes" challenge, which put me in the spot where I am today :word: )

How I regretted the first challenge :(

and everything Teddy! related :(

[hippie_hunter]

How I regretted the first challenge :(

and everything Teddy! related :(

You got screwed :csad:

[Matt]

Since H_H went and did his publicly :cmad:I will go ahead and post Kipobe's

[Matt]

Kipobe Q&A:

Note to Matt: are you gonna wait on Hippie before you post my stuff so he can't read it before he replies... or else it'll just be a rebuttal he'll make? Just curious...

Farmerfran
In one sentence, tell us why you deserve to win.

I've had a target on my back since day one, and I'm still here with only a handful of votes against me that I either gave myself or asked for... and I played the complete game... everything!

Erzengel
I have no questions or comments.

I agree!

JewishHobbit
Two questions:
1) I believe that there is a fine line between playing honorably yet competatively, and playing deceitfully. On which side of that line do you feel you have fallen on in this game?

Interesting question. It's funny, I get this reputation as screwing over people, but name me ONE person who I apparently "screwed over" who didn't screw me over first before they were booted? ONE person! The only vote-out I made in this game that was direct was probably 'fire, and I'd like to note that I contacted 'fire early to see if he'd be willing to team up at any stage, and he ignored my PMs. Brodie was not a casualty of me like some believe, but it was strictly bad hosting on Teddy's part... if half the players have immunity, and your inner circle are three of the four who don't have immunity, one of you are gonna be screwed. I couldn't orchestrate that, and as Matt knows via PMs, I fought that call quite vigorously. Regardless, I can't change what people's opinions are... but I will say that there's two sides to every story, and any player like myself knows that you get the bad rep because you have to play upfront and put yourself on the line everytime. I've managed to have success despite this, and that's why I deserve to stand where I do.

Why have you done so? Please share at least two examples.

I can only say I was competitive as part of a group effort. Honestly, I think you need a measure of both to have success, or else you're not playing the full game... someone else is playing it for you. Everyone knows the game is a balance of deceit and competitiveness... or else you're riding someone elses coattails. You start out the game as a minority. One person can always be beaten... so in order to have the majority you have to be in control. I played honorably because there was not one person who I voted out who didn't in some way vote or conspire against me FIRST! Not ONE person. And that's the honest truth... check the history.

2) Do you think Matt screwed JewishHobbit?

It's possible to come to that conclusion... but you should know this: gray areas are always a hosts call, and shouldn't be spat upon. He made it clear from the beginning that exile wasn't immunity... so having 5 votes against you should remove you. As for the words mentioned about "you can't be voted out", I always took that to mean that no one else can vote you out.... but self-inflicted wounds have to be properly penalized, especially since you weren't immune, which was also said. I suppose you could argue that there appeared to be a conflicting rule... which would make it a gray area leaving it up to the host to determine three things: what he originally meant... any precedents out there, and finally if the player understood they were breaking a rule. The penalty is up to the host based on the understanding of those three things.

Venom Drool
Tell me who you have been honorable or dishonorable to during your quest to reach the final two?

I wasn't dishonorable to anyone who wasn't dishonorable to me first. That's a fact. I did have a hand in voting out 'fire (as did everyone else), but I was never allied with him. Everyone else I voted for either never left on my command, or had backstabbed me at some point... I just never told them I knew about it. As for being honorable... well, I can't really say I was "most" honorable to anyone person, because I tried with a lot of people... one especially was Jewhob who I told him how I wanted to ally with him, and made a huge promise to him, and he turned on me... so my quest to reach the finals stood as what it always has been, a game of Survivor. Only one person wins the game... and everyone should look to make themselves the winner. End of story.

Immortalfire
Congratulations to both of you on making the final two.
Two Questions:
1) I wondered if you had a specific way you would do things from the beginning, or did you "wing it" along the way?

I had a specific way from the start: extremely specific. I detailed so much that I was way ahead of myself... but this game is not one where you can get too far ahead, because anything can change at any time (ie -- Teddy could host, and 50% of the players could win immunity... or your closest allies could screw you over). I think anyone who can have a specific plan; stick by it for most of the game; roll with the punches, and play off everyone who tries to do you in... and STILL make the finals has achieved a lot. Like I said, I started the game with a target, and I finished with a target. I wouldn't have been suprised if I got booted any day up until now... and yet here I am... so I would say vote for me for one reason: I did what I set out to do thus far... let's make it happen!

2) And, are either of you plotting revenge on TEDDY?

You have no idea... you have no idea what's upon him now....

StorminNorman
Whats more important: To be an ethical player and honor your alliances or to win at any cost ?

It's a game where only one person can win... at some point, even if you only have one alliance, you're gonna have to beat them to in order to win... so it is about winning at any cost. And I'm not just saying that for myself, I'm saying that for everyone who plays, because so many people stand by the pride of not backstabbing anyone... only thing is, they may be allied with someone who did all the dirty work for them to make them look pretty. In the games I played in, two games ago I played as an ally for jackcool... I took the hits, and went to the finals with him... who won? The one who never backstabbed. One game ago I carried Toven deep into the game. She saw me as a threat, and had Jewhob vote me out (someone I was allied with ironically). She used him as a pawn because her core three included kmack, and of course Toven would never turn on a girl to take Jew to the finals.... regardless, her and Kmack went to the dance, and Kmack won because of Toven's backstabbing. I actually told her she played a fine game, and congrats to her for kicking me off when she did... that was smart. I wanted her to win for that alone. I respect someone who plays the game like a champion. In any sport or challenge, the ones who are passive don't deserve to be there... they've rode the coattails of someone else. The ones who take charge and do the work are the champs... and it would be out of spite, and spite alone to do that now... don't let it happen again! Ethics only matter if you're playing for your closest of allies and when it comes to the game rules: then and ONLY then does it matter. Anyone who backstabs loses the favor of being a closest ally.

Darren Daring

Kipobe: How do you respond to Jew's claims that you orchestrated my vote out?

I'm more sad for Jew, and here's why: Jew is one of the future greats of this game, but he took a lot of things personal, and then spent the remainder of the game trying to prove himself... it wasn't even about the win anymore. I knew Jew would spread about an e-mail with a conversation I had with him... but if he read the conversation I had with him first, he'd notice that I said something interesting that was for himself first and foremost: I would give info to players to test their loyalty, and then see how far they would run with it. Remember that Jew? Turns out you took everything I said and decide to try and play Kingpin... only thing is, you didn't figure it would get back to me... and from just about every source too... all but one person who I had little contact from.

Then you tried to blame the whole thing on 'fire? Not knowing that I had built a profile on him from the beginning of the game that stated I knew he wouldn't either think to do that or take that approach? Regardless, you did what you did because you thought I thought of you as a pawn. You know as well as I do, Jew... pawns win this game just as much as Kings. Why? Because pawns do nothing and they manage to sweep by with the work of the kings. Interestingly enough, though... you were not a pawn. You couldn't be... you were an ally and an opponent at the same time. I tried to say "don't do this/that" all the time whilst at the same time taking bullets to protect you... just because I never told you "how" or "why", it doesn't mean you were a pawn... you were an integral part of my team alliance... so much so I openly and honstly wanted to trade in Brodie for you to move up a spot on the loyalty chain... why? Because Brodie wasn't contributing as much as you were.... despite his extreme loyalty. But I would've included Brodie in the decision had he of outlasted Teddy's day of terror... but it never came to that. Since you decided to backstab me, I saw no need to include you on that alliance any longer, and as any one who backstabs a player should know, your days are numbered after that. I guarantee you Jew, it was a done deal for you from that point on... and the very fact that you took it personal after that was your downfall, because any move made off emotion is a wrong one in Survivor. It's mindplay, guts and glory... and that's teh game I played.

Don't vote against me because you think I may have backstabbed you... vote for me because I played each day with determination and structure. My opponent is a great one, he really is... and I'm impressed by his challenge skills especially, but he was my ally, and every vote out I gave, he was with me by association... so vote for me because I orchestrated my own destiny... and in a game of 18 players there has to be 17 casualties... this last challenge is simply "who was the fittest". Vote with that in mind alone, and you'll have the true answer.

In quick closing I wanna say that Matt was my first host in Survivor, and he encouraged me to play my first game (I believe in 2003/4)... and if this is the last dance for me, then I'm glad I left on his hosting stint as well... but it's been great, and I enjoy the game... mostly I enjoy seeing new people play to protect the future integrity of the game. I gave my all in this one, and it was a blast... hope to see it go on for many years... until I'm 35 when I plan on killing myself.

Thanks for the memories. :heart:

[Immortalfire]

Asteroid-Man is trying to kill us all Matt...there's a thread on the first page.

[Matt]

Second, why do I have to write the 800 word essay :csad:

The first chapter of Three Times A Lady: A Darren Daring Adventure was just to simply show how badass Brodie apparently is. This is evident by Brodie calling the main character Darren Daring (his current screen name), the Dashing Young Man, by having the Cigar Man turn gay stating: “I wasn't attracted to men until I met him. He may be our only hope,” and having the main character jump out of a window. It seems that Brodie will do something important when Cigar Man stated, He may be our only hope. But what? That is the question.
The second chapter of Three Times A Lady: A Darren Daring Adventure was to further show how badass Brodie apparently is by having him carry a gun, kill one of Maxwell’s demon’s customers, and interrogating Halcohol. This chapter further diverged into Darren’s character by showing his intelligence. He doesn’t know where the President of the United States (Erzengel) lives (Washington D.C.), and confuses Washington D.C. for the State of Washington. This chapter is rather odd considering that it has made Maxwell’s Demon, a man, into a female hooker and DBella as a man-whore. Perhaps it is promoting transvestitism. DBella’s inclusion was probally mandatory, since she has to be in EVERY, Hype fan-fiction.
The third chapter of Three Times A Lady: A Darren Daring Adventure showed what Darren’s career was, a hitman. He’s being paid $120.00 to kill President Erzengel. It also seems that Darren is a rather important person because he is able to see the President without an appointment and get through the White House without security noticing his weapons. However, his intelligence is further lacking when he ignores the fact that the President has a Secret Service. This chapter had me wondering about what kind of man Erzengel is when he has two hooks for hands and apparently is working for someone. With the Cajun Halcohol, German jaguar, the French farmerfran, the buff Kmack, and the transvestite Maxwell’s Demon, it is apparent that Brodie is trying to write his characters as offensively as possible.
The Interlude, appeared to have no importance at all. Brodie continues to write his characters as offensively as possible, with Darthphere’s condom breaking and the sexual deviant PWN3R RANGER. However, I think the DOG LIPS Commemorative Trophy for Awesomenisity and the female black-cloaked character with the El Camino will have some importance in the future. It also appears that this fan fiction is going to be a death fest. Already we’ve had a no-named customer die (portrayed by Ben Urich), and DBella die. Now Darthphere and PWN3R RANGER are dead. I think the body count will continue to rise as the story goes on.
The fourth chapter of Three Times A Lady: A Darren Daring Adventure continues with Brodie’s style of offensive writing, by portraying the police officer, Childlike Wild, as a rapist. In this chapter, Darren gets a sidekick by the name of enterthemadness. Like the real, ETM, this version of ETM is also incompetent. Having Kipobe as a police officer might show, that Brodie thinks of Kipobe as a Nazi-pig who takes orders from anyone
The fifth chapter of Three Times A Lady: A Darren Daring Adventure continues with Brodie’s exaggeration of how awesome Darren is and the unbeleivablity. Just how does Darren, posses a .44 Magnum in a prison. How would the guards let this be? And picking a fight with JustABill was to continue Darren’s badassadry. The drug enduced dream was probably to show Brodie’s real life addiction to drugs and alcohol. The appearance of Tukiluka is probably to show a bit of Darren’s origins and I have yet to determine why Sofa has appeared asides from helping Darren out. But why is ETM the new top dawg. Just how does a prisoner who is not even 5 feet, end up like that. Naming the prison Retcon Prison, is to show that Brodi is indeed a Hyper. A member of Superhero Hype, a website dedicated to superhero and comic book movies and TV shows. Retcons are changes in a characters history in comic book lingo.
The title alone of Three Times A Lady: A Darren Daring Adventure show’s Brodie’s piss-poor competency in Spanish on account that he can’t even reach to six. ETM’s gang called the Griddles and the constant mention of pancakes and waffles, probably show Brodie’s love of breakfast. It appears that my theories that Sofa is a useless character are true. More of Darren’s origin is shown with the scene of his birth, to further show his awesomeness of being to talk right out of the womb and being born at Awesome o’clock.
The next part of Three Times A Lady: A Darren Daring Adventure is another pointless interlude. It starts off with Kypade having an affair with President Erzengel’s wife X-Chick. This is to show irony when Erz asks Kypade to look into it. The affair is in this story possibly because Brodie’s wife cheated on him with Erz. I have noticed that everyone drives an El Camero, perhaps this is Brodie’s favorite type of car.
The seventh chapter of Three Times A Lady: A Darren Daring Adventure is odd. Why does Erz want to destroy all awesomeness? Why does the author keep pointing out that Darren is so damn awesome? Just how is it possible for Sofa to be the traitor? She’s supposed to be a useless character. The death fest continues with the death of jaguar. I suspect that Erz is the villain because deep down, Brodie hates Erz.
The eighth chapter of Three Times A Lady: A Darren Daring Adventure starts off commenting on Sofa’s fine, fine breasts. Perhaps, the author has a crush on the real life Sofa. For once Sofa shows some competency by revealing the true plans of bringing an awesome utopia onto this world. Yet, Darren was not invited to join the Commune. Perhaps it is to show how Brodie was perhaps rejected in real life?
Over all the story is alright. I think I should have a part in it and it would be a lot cooler. It has a lot of awesomesauce in it though, and that’s a no brainer plus! :up:


Holy ****, he actually did it :eek:

[Matt]

All voting PMs are sent. Its now in the jury's hands.

[Fran]

I voted Nader.

[Immortalfire]

I voted Nader. :csad:

[hippie_hunter]

Holy ****, he actually did it :eek:
What made you think I wouldn't. I waited seven hours for your pi question :cmad:

[JewishHobbit]

Just to note.... Kipobe apparently has no idea what my mindset was while I was trying to pull votes. It's almost humorous.

For starters... nothing was personal. The only thing in this game that I took personally was Matt's decision, because I honestly 100% felt it was a bad call, but it was his to make. My 'betrayal' had nothing to do with my being upset at that. Nothing about Kipobe was so bad where I took it personally.

And that's just the beginning of what he got wrong. Example: I knew he'd get my PM sent to him (there was no question about that), I had no desire to play the role of Kingpin (Hippie might know what I mean by that if he remembered the plan we played with, maybe not), and the parts of our conversation that you seem to think I didn't notice (about testing and such) I noticed the moment you spoke it, I just decided to not care.

We'll discuss it later over PM. You seem to have taken this ordeal more personally than I did (which is none). Don't appreciate the tone of belittlement though.

[Kmack]

Go Pooh! ^.^

[Fran]

Where have you been :huh:

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Where have you been :huh:

:up:

[Immortalfire]

Where have you been :huh: Listening to Madonna, no doubt.

[Kipobe]

Just to note.... Kipobe apparently has no idea what my mindset was while I was trying to pull votes. It's almost humorous.

For starters... nothing was personal. The only thing in this game that I took personally was Matt's decision, because I honestly 100% felt it was a bad call, but it was his to make. My 'betrayal' had nothing to do with my being upset at that. Nothing about Kipobe was so bad where I took it personally.

And that's just the beginning of what he got wrong. Example: I knew he'd get my PM sent to him (there was no question about that), I had no desire to play the role of Kingpin (Hippie might know what I mean by that if he remembered the plan we played with, maybe not), and the parts of our conversation that you seem to think I didn't notice (about testing and such) I noticed the moment you spoke it, I just decided to not care.

We'll discuss it later over PM. You seem to have taken this ordeal more personally than I did (which is none). Don't appreciate the tone of belittlement though.

I'm purely going off what you told me... really. You said yourself that you wanted to basically force me into a corner by controlling things. What other way am I supposed to take that?

Regardless, I offered you something, and you turned on me... how else am I supposed to take that other than as a threat?

We were at war, Jew... the whole game we were at war. On any other game it may have been a different story, but it's the way the cards fell. But vote for me because I played harder than hard. You should only ever vote for the fittest... for THE survivor. Anything else is a move off emotion.

:up:

[Kipobe]

Go Pooh! ^.^

:heart:

[Childlike Wild]

Kipobe!

[Venom Drool]

viva kip?

[Erzengel]

My vote has been cast. How many more Matty?

[Fran]

Sent mine in a while ago.

[Matt]

Waiting on 2.

[TEDDY]

I am going to be pissed when Teddy wins this thing :(

I won't! :oldrazz: :woot:

[Darren Daring]

X-Chcik signed up and you didn't tkae her:cmad:

[Kipobe]

and Prognosticator.

[Kipobe]

Badger Phil. Haha.

[Darren Daring]

AHAH, Hippie did the essay. Dude, I was never going to vote for you, sorry:down

[Erzengel]

Brodie, it's me and you next time in the Finals unless X-Chick or Sofa play but at the very least Final 4. :up:

[Kipobe]

I asked Sofa to give VD a bj if he votes for me. She said she's on it. :heart:

[Darthphere]

The only time I truly lied was to Darthphere. Phere warned me that Kipobe was lazy and would lose interest in this game very soon. That he could not be relied upon. I sensed the rivalry between the two and I felt that I could use that to my advantage. But I just couldn’t. For some reason, I couldn’t. Then the second day came and our tribe lost the challenge, Kipobe was exiled, and we had to vote someone out. Matt said the votes were due at 8:00 (the PM was sent at 7:50, making me think that I had 10 minutes to vote!). I PMed Phere telling him that Kipobe could not be voted out and that I was voting Asteroid-Man, which I did. But then Matt PMed me back telling me that I had 24 hours, not 10 minutes and that I should think more about the vote (consulting my teammates). Kipobe then PMed me telling me that Darthphere betrayed our tribe and provided some good explainations why. I then considered that Kipobe would be a much more reliable ally than Darthphere would be and I changed my vote from Asteroid-Man to Darthphere. I actually did feel bad a bit. But later on when I heard how much of a traitorous bastard Phere really was in previous Survivor games took that feeling away.

I was only a traitorous bastard against Matt. Ask all my other allies, I was true to them the whole time.

[Kipobe]

I was only a traitorous bastard against Matt. Ask all my other allies, I was true to them the whole time.

But no one could ever truly know because you had already betrayed me early on saying I was gonna flake out. I'm not a flake. :csad:

[Erzengel]

I asked Sofa to give VD a bj if he votes for me. She said she's on it. :heart:
That's dedication. :up:

Did the last 2 people vote yet? I think I've seen everyone on the jury in this thread already. :huh:

[Darthphere]

But no one could ever truly know because you had already betrayed me early on saying I was gonna flake out. I'm not a flake. :csad:

Oh, and thats another thing, thanks for reminding me. I had told Kipobe exactly what i was going to do if he missed a challenge. So it was no secret really.

[Darren Daring]

That's dedication. :up:

Did the last 2 people vote yet? I think I've seen everyone on the jury in this thread already. :huh:


Oh, I was one of em.

[Darren Daring]

Oh, and thats another thing, thanks for reminding me. I had told Kipobe exactly what i was going to do if he missed a challenge. So it was no secret really.


Also, when It comes to Survivor, Kipobe is rock solid until about 6 or 7 people left. Then he gets lazy and voted out, usually to the benifit of one of his former allies. Usually Jack. But never me:(

[Kipobe]

Also, when It comes to Survivor, Kipobe is rock solid until about 6 or 7 people left. Then he gets lazy and voted out, usually to the benifit of one of his former allies. Usually Jack. But never me:(

I was only voted out once, and that wasn't because I got lazy... but Toven wore me down and I let her run things. Also, remember how much of a whore she was? I wonder if that transferred to Miami with her. I'm sure it did.

[Eric Draven]

Seriously Kipobe, you better win this :cmad:

[Darren Daring]

For someone who was voted out once, you spent a bunch of games not in the finals.*


* I can't remember the reason for this though.

[Kipobe]

I've played four games.

1st game was Matt and PK's that didn't complete. Matt gave me the honorary win though... but I was never voted out since I was one of the few left standing.

2nd game I went to the finals with jack. Blood, sweat and tears, and jack was given the award for least backstabbery person even though he screwed over EVERYONE in the game. :cmad:

3rd game was the Toven debacle where I had a clean shot at the finals and the win (if I had won the final day I would've taken Toven over you Brodie because let's face it, you were too nice that game. Everyone hated me and Toven, but Toven much more. She knew this, so wise on her part to wear me down).

4th game: here and now.

I'm awesome! :heart:

Also, Immortalfire, hurry up and vote:cmad:

[Erzengel]

Who's hosting Survivor 22, because I plan on winning that one. :up:

[Eric Draven]

Wait, how did I screw over everyone in the second game? :huh:

[Darren Daring]

I've played four games.

1st game was Matt and PK's that didn't complete. Matt gave me the honorary win though... but I was never voted out since I was one of the few left standing.

2nd game I went to the finals with jack. Blood, sweat and tears, and jack was given the award for least backstabbery person even though he screwed over EVERYONE in the game. :cmad:

3rd game was the Toven debacle where I had a clean shot at the finals and the win (if I had won the final day I would've taken Toven over you Brodie because let's face it, you were too nice that game. Everyone hated me and Toven, but Toven much more. She knew this, so wise on her part to wear me down).

4th game: here and now.

I'm awesome! :heart:

Also, Immortalfire, hurry up and vote:cmad:

That's right, you were in the finals before

That's okay, I would have taken her too.

[Immortalfire]

Immortalfire, hurry up and vote:cmad:

Shaddup :cmad:

[Darren Daring]

Wait, how did I screw over everyone in the second game? :huh:

You forgot to vote and it caused one of our allies to get voted off and us to lsoe tha advantage and the other gusy to vote me out... but not before they all quit leaving you clear to win:down

[Eric Draven]

You forgot to vote and it caused one of our allies to get voted off and us to lsoe tha advantage and the other gusy to vote me out... but not before they all quit leaving you clear to win:down

That sounds like just conspiracy theory bull....

[Darren Daring]

No, that's what happened.

[Eric Draven]

Yeah, but I didn't do it intentionally.....

[Darren Daring]

Laziness also applies to the screwing over count.

[Eric Draven]

That's like five minutes for me!

[Kipobe]

Yeah, and it would've been understandable if you were just playing both sides of the fence casually, but the next round you voted with us, and left kypade, max and co. out in the cold, prompting kypade to hate you.

We alienated half the jury and Toven/Watch had to bring in a new jury to vote. That was hilarious! :cyclops:

[Eric Draven]

Oh yeah, I remember when kypade started yelling at me on MSN because I betrayed him. That was a bit scary :csad:

[StorminNorman]

Who's hosting Survivor 22, because I plan on winning that one. :up:

I heard Fran may - though it could simply be one farmers dream. :csad:

[Darren Daring]

I heard Fran may - though it could simply be one farmers dream. :csad:


As Hype! Survivor Administrator, I vetoed his claim.

[Kipobe]

Oh yeah, I remember when kypade started yelling at me on MSN because I betrayed him. That was a bit scary :csad:

I believe if kypade wanted to, he could come through your computer screen. That's why I always log off AIM whenever he's on.

[Matt]

All votes are in, ladies and gentlemen. I will reveal the results at 7 pm est time tonight.

[Mee]

All votes are in, ladies and gentlemen. I will reveal the results at 7 pm est time tonight.
:huh: :cmad: :huh: :cmad: :huh: :cmad:

:down

[Immortalfire]

[hippie hunter] 7pm? Booo..do it now! :cmad: [/hippie hunter]



:hyper:

[Kipobe]

Matt, the voters can't change their votes, correct? They're cast and set in stone?

[hippie_hunter]

[hippie hunter] 7pm? Booo..do it now! :cmad: [/hippie hunter]



:hyper:

You know my lack of patience so well :hyper:

[hippie_hunter]

AHAH, Hippie did the essay. Dude, I was never going to vote for you, sorry:down

Then why did you give me an 800 word essay and Kipobe the easy question? I earned your vote :cmad:

You break my :heart:

[Kipobe]

It's been a pleasure playing by your side, hippie. You're a gentleman in a beasts game. :heart:

[hippie_hunter]

It's been a pleasure playing by your side, hippie. You're a gentleman in a beasts game. :heart:

It too has been a pleasure playing with you. Thank you for showing me the ropes to this game :up:

I'll definetely be playing again. Not the next one, but maybe 21 or 22. Or whenever my proposed Tranny Version takes mold.

[Kipobe]

Also, I wanna make it clear that if anyone is wondering what the true meaning of the word "ally" is, see Erz. Erz is an unbelievably amazing ally, and he has been since Day One! He's a master at deception, and his loyalty is phenominal... I'd like to make mention of something interesting: Erz told me that he never wanted to win the game... it was all for me, and his entire goal was to try to assist me and Darren to the final 2. In fact, if our original goal of us being in the final 3 came to fruition, he would've bowed out and let us two go to the dance.

In this final 3 he told hippie to vote him out once both of us were on the verge of elimination. He managed to overcome so much to get as far as he did, and even having the glimpse of tying jack's title didn't seem to affect him much.

The game IS deceit and it IS backstabbing. Challenge work is the honorable side, but it's only half the game.... that's why the final challenge is so hard, because it's about overcoming the work that you took to get there.

Erz is the king, and possibly the only player I can see not only tying jack's record, but beating it... assuming he's up for the challenge.

I love you, man!!!!!

[Kipobe]

It too has been a pleasure playing with you. Thank you for showing me the ropes to this game :up:

I'll definetely be playing again. Not the next one, but maybe 21 or 22. Or whenever my proposed Tranny Version takes mold.

Why no 20? I don't think Venom's starting it anytime soon... and also, Tranny Version? :huh:

[hippie_hunter]

Why no 20? I don't think Venom's starting it anytime soon... and also, Tranny Version? :huh:

If it is not going to be for quite a while, then I'll sign up. If it's in the summer then I won't be able to do it like I had for this one. Also, I'd like a break for a bit from Survivor, it takes a lot of time.

The Tranny Version that I proposed in a previous Survivor thread had us sign up as female alter-egos. BrodiaBruce, Asteroid-Woman, GoldenAgeHeroine, farmerfrancine, Erzengal, hippie_huntress, Kipobette, etc.

[Matt]

Erz is the king


Actually The King is none other than our own Drakon. Although he has been only involved in the game when I have emailed him as he is on sebatical from the Hype.

Its time to reveal the votes!

[hippie_hunter]

Oh goody!

[Matt]

Keep in mind, this time around it is a vote FOR the winner, not AGAINST a player:

Vote One: Kipobe

[Matt]

Vote Two: Kipobe

[hippie_hunter]

Matt's probally going to go Kipobe, hippie_hunter, Kipobe, hippie_hunter and make us wait in suspense for the last vote :(

[Kipobe]

If it is not going to be for quite a while, then I'll sign up. If it's in the summer then I won't be able to do it like I had for this one. Also, I'd like a break for a bit from Survivor, it takes a lot of time.

The Tranny Version that I proposed in a previous Survivor thread had us sign up as female alter-egos. BrodiaBruce, Asteroid-Woman, GoldenAgeHeroine, farmerfrancine, Erzengal, hippie_huntress, Kipobette, etc.

A Kipobe is a non-descriptive gender type creature. So the female counterpart for Kipobe is basically: Kipobe.

:heart:

[Kipobe]

Actually The King is none other than our own Drakon. Although he has been only involved in the game when I have emailed him as he is on sebatical from the Hype.

Its time to reveal the votes!

Drakon! :up:

[Kipobe]

Matt's probally going to go Kipobe, hippie_hunter, Kipobe, hippie_hunter and make us wait in suspense for the last vote :(

Maybe not. :o

[hippie_hunter]

Drakon! :up:

Drakon left us for the Gamer Rejects :csad:

[Matt]

Vote 3: Kipobe

[Matt]

With vote four I declare the unanimous of Hype Survivor 19:

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[Kipobe]

Drakon left us for the Gamer Rejects :csad:

I know. He left half way through the job and everything. The quick reply box is still blue. :csad:

[hippie_hunter]

Congrats man :up:

[Kipobe]

With vote four I declare the unanimous of Hype Survivor 19:

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:lackey:

[Kipobe]

Congrats man :up:

Thanks hippie... now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to kill myself. :word:

[Matt]

It is official, Kipobe is the winner! Congratulations! With that Kipobe has finally achieved his title and is now arguable the best player in Hype Survivor History. I reclaim my position as 'Best Player to Never Win Hype Survivor'.

Hippie_Hunter....I just have one question for you:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r62/stref2001/WHERE_IS_YOUR_GOD_NOW.jpg

But seriously, to make the finals in your first try is a massive accomplishment. Congratulations my friend. Either of you would've been worthy winners :up:

And to the jury, I must say, I have never had just an extraordinary jury. Your questions were fair, but had teeth, your voting prompt. Thank you for your service. And thank you to everyone who played. Now all of you can:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r62/stref2001/Survivor2.jpg

[hippie_hunter]

That trophy sucks though. I'd be creeped out with a trophy with the King's face on it.

[Matt]

That trophy sucks though. I'd be creeped out with a trophy with the King's face on it.

Especially a poorly paint shopped one that it took me all of two minutes to do :up:

[Mee]

I called it. I get a share of the winnings. :up:

[hippie_hunter]

Especially a poorly paint shopped one that it took me all of two minutes to do :up:

That just makes it worse :csad:

[Kipobe]

Wait... unanimous??? 'fire even voted for me? Oh snap!

I love each and every one of you. :heart:

Also, I really hate most of you. Now that I won, I intend on dropping the nice act. :cmad:

Please feel free to ask questions and I'll offer you my true opinions on EVERYthing. :heart: You probably won't like the answers...

[Matt]

I called it. I get a share of the winnings. :up:

Ok...Here you go.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r62/stref2001/untitled.jpg

[Matt]

Wait... unanimous??? 'fire even voted for me? Oh snap!

I love each and every one of you. :heart:

Also, I really hate most of you. Now that I won, I intend on dropping the nice act. :cmad:

Please feel free to ask questions and I'll offer you my true opinions on EVERYthing. :heart: You probably won't like the answers...

I've been observing Kipobe's strategy throughout. I gotta say, the unanimous decision was much deserved. He played like a master, though he is right...most of you won't like the answers.

[hippie_hunter]

Wait... unanimous??? 'fire even voted for me? Oh snap!

I love each and every one of you. :heart:

Also, I really hate most of you. Now that I won, I intend on dropping the nice act. :cmad:

Please feel free to ask questions and I'll offer you my true opinions on EVERYthing. :heart: You probably won't like the answers...

:csad:

[Kipobe]

Thanks again, Matt. The game had it's ups and exciting challenges, and it had it's downs, most noticably with the presence of Teddy and the loss of Sofa so early (I think that's when Erz first really started to hate fran...) but all in all it was a good game. Good calls, questionable calls... bad calls... not sure if you can really say those matter. After all, you win some and you lose some because of good and bad calls... so if you take the good, you logically have to take the bad.

Thanks to everyone who made this possible, my quest for the gold has happened. And again, I can't say enough about Erz... a phenominal ally, and a helluva guy! This one's for you!

[Matt]

:csad:


You and Kipobe played two entirely different games...Kipobe was the puppet master where as you were the challenge king. I think the reason Kipobe may be more deserving this time around, is because you can win this game without challenges. You can't without a strategy as deep as Kipobe's (or at least riding on the coat tails of someone like that). I think if you get the strategy aspect down H_H, you will be the most dangerous player to watch in upcoming Hype Survivors...because you are smart enough to control an entire game, and your ability with challenges could very well rival that of Kypade.

[Kipobe]

:csad:

I tried to vote you out like... three times. You're like the unkillable bug. But everything I said as regards your playing talent was true... if it weren't for Teddy's botched day, you would've been gone... but it was only business. Like I said before, if 18 players start the game, I want to be the last one standing. Erz went after you at my request, not his... but I am genuinely impressed by your challenge dedication and ability. You rival the great kypade in that respect.

But yeah, you went from quiet tag-along to Jew's earpiece... to threat... in a matter of seconds. You deserved to stand where you are because you overcame a helluva lot, and I respect that! But I did really want you gone. :csad:

[Matt]

Thanks again, Matt. The game had it's ups and exciting challenges, and it had it's downs, most noticably with the presence of Teddy and the loss of Sofa so early (I think that's when Erz first really started to hate fran...) but all in all it was a good game. Good calls, questionable calls... bad calls... not sure if you can really say those matter. After all, you win some and you lose some because of good and bad calls... so if you take the good, you logically have to take the bad.


Its about damn time. You've earned it :up: Hell, the way you have played these past three games, you've probably earned the hat trick, we just had a good jury this time :up:

[Kipobe]

You and Kipobe played two entirely different games...Kipobe was the puppet master where as you were the challenge king. I think the reason Kipobe may be more deserving this time around, is because you can win this game without challenges. You can't without a strategy as deep as Kipobe's (or at least riding on the coat tails of someone like that). I think if you get the strategy aspect down H_H, you will be the most dangerous player to watch in upcoming Hype Survivors...because you are smart enough to control an entire game, and your ability with challenges could very well rival that of Kypade.

oh my god... I was typing that as you posted this.

Plus, I told him all this same stuff during the game... that should prove it's true!

[Mee]

Ok...Here you go.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r62/stref2001/untitled.jpg
I'm so honored. :csad: :up:

[Matt]

oh my god... I was typing that as you posted this.


Our ESP is a sign of us being soul mates :cwink:

[Kipobe]

Its about damn time. You've earned it :up: Hell, the way you have played these past three games, you've probably earned the hat trick, we just had a good jury this time :up:

Indeed. I'm still suprised to get 'fire's vote. Norman, fran and Jew all told me they voted for me, and Erz and Brodie were kinda like my safe-houses. Sofa assured me of Venom's vote, but 'fire was the one I didn't expect. Maybe he was thinking he was voting against me? :csad:

[Matt]

Indeed. I'm still suprised to get 'fire's vote. Norman, fran and Jew all told me they voted for me, and Erz and Brodie were kinda like my safe-houses. Sofa assured me of Venom's vote, but 'fire was the one I didn't expect. Maybe he was thinking he was voting against me? :csad:

I bet IF just wished he could vote for both of you. He is just such a damn nice guy. He is like Ned Flanders and Al from Home Improvement rolled into one. I want to ally with him next game just so I can corrupt him :up:

[Kipobe]

Do you have an existing list of how many votes I had against me the entire game?

I ordered about two of them, and handed in I think at least one vote for myself... plus I posted in the thread after I was exiled two times... should give me a total of 5 votes the entire game. If so, then they were all self-inflicted. :word:

[hippie_hunter]

You and Kipobe played two entirely different games...Kipobe was the puppet master where as you were the challenge king. I think the reason Kipobe may be more deserving this time around, is because you can win this game without challenges. You can't without a strategy as deep as Kipobe's (or at least riding on the coat tails of someone like that). I think if you get the strategy aspect down H_H, you will be the most dangerous player to watch in upcoming Hype Survivors...because you are smart enough to control an entire game, and your ability with challenges could very well rival that of Kypade.

I'm not saying that Kipobe's victory wasn't deserving, it absolutely was. He taught me a lot in this game, even though he did try and get rid of me. And now all I have to do is get rid of my damn principal of no sneaky backstabbing.

If you had a game of GAH, Asteroid-Man, ETM, GhostRider, etc. I'd have no problem with manipulating them :hyper:

[hippie_hunter]

I tried to vote you out like... three times. You're like the unkillable bug. But everything I said as regards your playing talent was true... if it weren't for Teddy's botched day, you would've been gone... but it was only business. Like I said before, if 18 players start the game, I want to be the last one standing. Erz went after you at my request, not his... but I am genuinely impressed by your challenge dedication and ability. You rival the great kypade in that respect.

But yeah, you went from quiet tag-along to Jew's earpiece... to threat... in a matter of seconds. You deserved to stand where you are because you overcame a helluva lot, and I respect that! But I did really want you gone. :csad:

I know that you tried to get rid of me in TEDDY's challenge, but when were the other times :huh:

[Matt]

Do you have an existing list of how many votes I had against me the entire game?

I ordered about two of them, and handed in I think at least one vote for myself... plus I posted in the thread after I was exiled two times... should give me a total of 5 votes the entire game. If so, then they were all self-inflicted. :word:

Tribal Council Votes cast again you:

2. One on Day 12, one on Day 15.

Penalty votes - 2.

[StorminNorman]

Congratulations Kipobe :up:

Very well played game Hippie Hunter :up:

When is Survivor 20 and how can I get in? :cmad:

[hippie_hunter]

You know, maybe I will play Hype Survivor 20.

[Kipobe]

I know that you tried to get rid of me in TEDDY's challenge, but when were the other times :huh:

When it was the three-two vote with you and Erz, when Jew ended up going home (side note: I was the one who blew the whistle on Jew), and also twice in Teddy's round with the initial challenge where you were actually VOTED out, and when Matt brought you back for 13.5 and I tried to make SN win by giving Jew the answers to give to him. I wanted Jew to give SN the answers because he said he was willing to screw you over, but I guess he was loyal to you over me.

I don't think there was any other time... there was never a real clear shot. I think maybe the challenge after Jew went Erz and I were thinking about it then, but 'fire would always cause problems come vote time and it was time to move him out, and we weren't fully sure of fran's status, so we went back and forth wondering if targeting you would be safe from his standpoint. We were still outnumbered, so we figured we'd play the odds... there's a greater chance 'fire just wouldn't vote, letting the numbers fall in our favor... and it'd be a good time to see if fran would be faitfhful. That's why we didn't go after you at that time. Jew was still very vocal to the others... we didn't wanna risk it.

[Matt]

Oh, and since the game is over, I think it is time to reveal who Deepthroat was. (AKA, the player who insisted on two boot outs on Teddy's failed day as well as who pointed out Jewhob had five penalty votes and filed that complaint). Deep throat, would you like to come forward or should I oust you?

[Matt]

(side note: I was the one who blew the whistle on Jew).

Dude, we are on the same wave length tonight.

[hippie_hunter]

When it was the three-two vote with you and Erz, when Jew ended up going home (side note: I was the one who blew the whistle on Jew), and also twice in Teddy's round with the initial challenge where you were actually VOTED out, and when Matt brought you back for 13.5 and I tried to make SN win by giving Jew the answers to give to him. I wanted Jew to give SN the answers because he said he was willing to screw you over, but I guess he was loyal to you over me.

I don't think there was any other time... there was never a real clear shot. I think maybe the challenge after Jew went Erz and I were thinking about it then, but 'fire would always cause problems come vote time and it was time to move him out, and we weren't fully sure of fran's status, so we went back and forth wondering if targeting you would be safe from his standpoint. We were still outnumbered, so we figured we'd play the odds... there's a greater chance 'fire just wouldn't vote, letting the numbers fall in our favor... and it'd be a good time to see if fran would be faitfhful. That's why we didn't go after you at that time. Jew was still very vocal to the others... we didn't wanna risk it.

Wow...I knew that you were a master manipulator, but I am seriously impressed. I must learn this skill :wow:

[Kipobe]

Tribal Council Votes cast again you:

2. One on Day 12, one on Day 15.

Penalty votes - 2.

The one on day 12 was self-inflicted... I think I actually voted for myself in that one (of the top of my head, I can't remember why). The day 15 one came from fran. Interesting story, hippie just won immunity, and either myself, fran or Erz were on the chopping block.

Neither erz or myself wanted to lose to fran, especially as we felt he put us in quite a number of bad situations from pretty much the beginning of the game... so we decided we had to work the numbers to make it so he'd end up going... which was tough because Erz had more previous votes than fran did, so if fran voted with hippie (who admitted he voted Erz), then Erz would be gone in the tie-breaker.

I took one approach: get fran to change his vote by saying "I know you're gonna have to vote off an ally, so you can vote for me and I'll vote for you, that way our votes cancel each other out..."

Erz took the direct approach: "you can't win at this point, just do the honorable thing and make this win happen for Kip".

Not sure which one was the breaking factor, but fran changed his vote from Erz to me splitting the power of their votes, and my vote teamed up with Erz's vote reigned supreme, putting Erz, myself and hippie in the final 3... which was way bad news for hippie because whoever he went to the finals with would've won... that's why I told Erz not to ask to be voted out, because we both deserved to be there by that point... and if he had won I would've been happy, and if I won I would've been happy... but let hippie decide the winner, that way we remain faithful to our original alliance, and our integrity to battling it out in the game.

Be that as it may, he jumped off the bridge, and told me he really didn't want to win this game... he just enjoyed playing a different style, and because of that, here we are.

[Matt]

Wow...I knew that you were a master manipulator, but I am seriously impressed. I must learn this skill :wow:

Seriously, none of you realize just how damn well Kipobe played this game. I've been following his strategy throughout with descriptions from him and I don't even fully appreciate it. Everything, from votes against him to challenge results were often his working. He played this game like no other.

[StorminNorman]

When it was the three-two vote with you and Erz, when Jew ended up going home (side note: I was the one who blew the whistle on Jew), and also twice in Teddy's round with the initial challenge where you were actually VOTED out, and when Matt brought you back for 13.5 and I tried to make SN win by giving Jew the answers to give to him. I wanted Jew to give SN the answers because he said he was willing to screw you over, but I guess he was loyal to you over me.


Whats funny is that I made contact with Hippie to see if he was willing to side with me to vote you out.

And then my plans fell apart and I had to compromise my alliance with Hippie the next challenge, and never really regained it :csad:

[Matt]

The one on day 12 was self-inflicted... I think I actually voted for myself in that one (of the top of my head, I can't remember why).

I believe you said something along the lines of a vote against you could be pinned on someone else and make an easier elimination.

[Kipobe]

Whats funny is that I made contact with Hippie to see if he was willing to side with me to vote you out.

And then my plans fell apart and I had to compromise my alliance with Hippie the next challenge, and never really regained it :csad:

He told me you allied with him briefly... but it's interesting, I think it fell apart when you told Erz who the wolves were in that one challenge. I just capitalized on it by fanning the flames, but in all honesty, I think that was all you. I just utilized the circumstances.

[StorminNorman]

He told me you allied with him briefly... but it's interesting, I think it fell apart when you told Erz who the wolves were in that one challenge. I just capitalized on it by fanning the flames, but in all honesty, I think that was all you. I just utilized the circumstances.

Hippie was allied with you, so pushing the idea of getting him to axe you seemed to be a poor move.

That is why I went back to Erz (who I also suspected of being allied with you). I figured with his help I could take off just enough of your old tribe members to get a voting majority over you.

What really screwed me though was JewHob finding the Immunity Idol. The Tribal Council that was used was going to be used to kick you out. You got exiled - we targeted JewHob, ETM got nixed, Majority was gone, end of story :(

[Kipobe]

I believe you said something along the lines of a vote against you could be pinned on someone else and make an easier elimination.

Possibly. I think that was the one I pretended to blame on Erz. We never followed that course though. I think we also had a fake arguement early on that we never bothered to pursue, but we gave ourselves the options. I think we felt it didn't matter most of the time because we were always addressing smaller issues.

[Sofa]

well, needeless to say, the best man won. this is venom... yea..

congrats kip

[Fran]

Congratulations Kipobe.

I made a ton of rookie mistakes, but I've learned a lot from this game. It was nice to finally get voted off and not consume so much time for this game. I'm looking forward to the next one I play in.

It was great playing this.

[Kipobe]

Hippie was allied with you, so pushing the idea of getting him to axe you seemed to be a poor move.

That is why I went back to Erz (who I also suspected of being allied with you). I figured with his help I could take off just enough of your old tribe members to get a voting majority over you.

What really screwed me though was JewHob finding the Immunity Idol. The Tribal Council that was used was going to be used to kick you out. You got exiled - we targeted JewHob, ETM got nixed, Majority was gone, end of story :(

Oh yeah, anytime my throat was possibly on the line, I got exiled. This really wasn't a coincidence. Neither was the fact that Jewhob was attacked, or etm going. Why? Because I knew Jew had the Immunity Idol... and he didn't tell me when he found it. So I set him up to take the hit. I knew he'd survive because he had the idol, so Erz and myself picked someone else to take the fall... someone who we couldn't rally AS many votes for, but enough to make them come second place. It was two tricks in one with that council... three if you count my getting exiled.

Also, Erz and myself controlled every exile, except for the one where 'fire won immunity and exiled Jew (suspect move). Fortunately, Jew ended up going home, so it was all good.

[Kipobe]

well, needeless to say, the best man won. this is venom... yea..

congrats kip

Venom in Sofa's body? I'm so turned on. :heart:

[Kipobe]

Congratulations Kipobe.

I made a ton of rookie mistakes, but I've learned a lot from this game. It was nice to finally get voted off and not consume so much time for this game. I'm looking forward to the next one I play in.

It was great playing this.

It was a pain with some of the mistakes, but as long as we retained control I was alright. I think Erz was more annoyed than me, that's why I promised him he should at least get to outlast you... but regardless, mistakes are a part of the learning process, and I think you'll be alright if you learn from them in future games.

[hippie_hunter]

Like if someone promises you a spot in the final three, you take it :cmad:

[Fran]

Believe me, I trusted Kipobe a lot more than you. You kept quiet for a while, after the whole JewHob incident.

[hippie_hunter]

Believe me, I trusted Kipobe a lot more than you. You kept quiet for a while, after the whole JewHob incident.

I was thinking of myself, I needed to figure out a way to get to where I got after Jew was gone.

[Fran]

I was thinking of myself, I needed to figure out a way to get to where I got after Jew was gone.

No you weren't by yourself...

[Kipobe]

It's kinda hard to form new allies so late in the game though, because having a history always seems to win. That's why Jew's late-game antics were only so powerful and wore off extremely quick... but I know that Erz and I will openly admit that we were planning on taking Jew to the final 3 had he not turned on us, that's the honest truth... but in fairness to him he didn't want Erz there over hippie, and that's the road he took.

He was gone later that same day. :csad:

[Erzengel]

Also, I wanna make it clear that if anyone is wondering what the true meaning of the word "ally" is, see Erz. Erz is an unbelievably amazing ally, and he has been since Day One! He's a master at deception, and his loyalty is phenominal... I'd like to make mention of something interesting: Erz told me that he never wanted to win the game... it was all for me, and his entire goal was to try to assist me and Darren to the final 2. In fact, if our original goal of us being in the final 3 came to fruition, he would've bowed out and let us two go to the dance.

In this final 3 he told hippie to vote him out once both of us were on the verge of elimination. He managed to overcome so much to get as far as he did, and even having the glimpse of tying jack's title didn't seem to affect him much.

The game IS deceit and it IS backstabbing. Challenge work is the honorable side, but it's only half the game.... that's why the final challenge is so hard, because it's about overcoming the work that you took to get there.

Erz is the king, and possibly the only player I can see not only tying jack's record, but beating it... assuming he's up for the challenge.

I love you, man!!!!!

You truly are the greatest ally I've ever had. Way better than Maxwell's Demon. Just kidding MD if you are reading this. Not really. :o

This was almost as good as when Watchman and I screwed Toven which led to my victory. :up:

Anywho, this game was alot more fun because we controlled everything. Some of the highlights.


Booting Teddy, and Movies in the beginning and "choosing" teams. In the end it was Kipobe and I who really booted Teddy. :up:
"Winning" and "Losing" challenges. Seriously I thought everyone was going to catch on especially when it was like my team won, then your team won.
Having me and you exiled.
Getting JewHob to lose his immunity idol.
But my favorite, favorite was when Fran spilled the beans on Jewhob's uprising and everything looked lost. But even before that you told Matt about him posting during exile and then I must have sent Matt half a dozen pms saying how he knew he was going to be exiled and he got booted. :)
This isn't exactly how I wanted it to go down. I did want you and Brodie in the Final 2. But I think it's commendable that we controlled the game the way we did and got at least one of you there.

Congratulations Kipobe, Survivor 19 Winner. You deserve it, you are a Legend in this game. Thank you for the kind words.

Now who needs an ally in the next game?

[Fran]

This could have been a different outcome had I not spilled the beans, but I'm sure hippie would have.

[hippie_hunter]

This could have been a different outcome had I not spilled the beans, but I'm sure hippie would have.

I fully spilled the beans when JewHob was gone and revealing would have no impact whatsoever on his game. If you didn't tell Kipobe I was talking to you, our alliance would have stayed quiet.

[Fran]

I was swayed over by JewHob, but I realized it was just him trying to control the game, so I told Erz and Kipobe of the goings on.

Erz and Kipobe were my first two allies in the game, and I needed to make it up to them somehow.

[hippie_hunter]

I was swayed over by JewHob, but I realized it was just him trying to control the game, so I told Erz and Kipobe of the goings on.

Erz and Kipobe were my first two allies in the game, and I needed to make it up to them somehow.

I think it was obvious that JewHob wanted to use us like Kipobe and Erz did, but I freaking offered you a spot in the final three for crying out loud :cmad:

[Erzengel]

Honestly, now that the game is over and it was apparently obviously how many times I had to quell the anger in my heart over Fran, SN, Fire, ETM, Elisha not f'ing voting like I told them to. With Sofa, JewHob, and Asteroid-Man

Kidding aside, you showed moxy which I respect but still it was frustrating the amount of times you didn't vote the way I hoped you would. It just made the game that much harder. I can't call any of you pawns because honestly half the time you never did what I wanted.

But you all did pretty well for your first time out. :up:

[Fran]

I know I messed up there, but I owed it to Erz for putting up with my mistakes! :cmad:

[Kipobe]

Thanks again, Erz! Times a million!

Also, all you guys came back with the same information at the same time all saying the same words: "we didn't want to be a pawn".

Did you all not realize we would make the connection? :csad:

[Kipobe]

Honestly, now that the game is over and it was apparently obviously how many times I had to quell the anger in my heart over Fran, SN, Fire, ETM, Elisha not f'ing voting like I told them to. With Sofa, JewHob, and Asteroid-Man

Kidding aside, you showed moxy which I respect but still it was frustrating the amount of times you didn't vote the way I hoped you would. It just made the game that much harder. I can't call any of you pawns because honestly half the time you never did what I wanted.

But you all did pretty well for your first time out. :up:

:up:

[Matt]

Fran, it is important this game doesn't make you TOO cynical. That would be a huge mistake in future games. Yes, there is backstabbing and you have to be aware of it...but you can't constantly be looking over your shoulder either.

[Fran]

I have learned that, for sure.

[Immortalfire]

Congrats, Kip :hyper:

[Kipobe]

Congrats, Kip :hyper:

:heart:

[JewishHobbit]

Okay, now that it's all over.... I'm going to tell my side of my betrayal here.

Kipobe opened up to me about his alliance with Erz and all that. I respected him for it, and honestly didn't have anything against him for it, but knew I'd always be the 3rd wheel to he and Erz. I felt that if it came down to the three of us, each of them would take each other to the finals, thus, I'd have to win my way there, and I'm only so so at most challenges, so that wasn't going to do me well. I didn't have anything against either of them, but I didn't want to be a pawn or just someone sailing along and not earning my keep. Thus, I decided to throw all caution to the wind and show all my cards. I got ahold of Hippie, Fran, and IF and shared all I knew with them.

If I recall correctly, I never asked Fran or IF for an alliance, I asked for their votes. I pretended to be very angry at both Kipobe and Erz so I'd rally them. I knew that the PM I sent them would get back to Erz or Kipobe but decided to go with it anyhow. (honestly, I expected IF to inform them before Fran, but oh well). I figured Kipobe would knew I was doing this, but just in case I figured I'd try to play it off by claiming I was tempting them. The AIM converation we all had was last minute planning that I was never really convinced worked. I figured I'd try to throw the blame on IF, but again, I figured it wouldn't matter anyhow. It was worth a shot.

The plan was to try to rally the vote against Erz and get him voted out. Then Hippie and I would try to work with Kipobe now that Erz was out of the way to send If and Fran home, and then the best two to make it to the finals make it. Hippie started this idea and I was all for it, but I didn't know exactly where he was so I acted hesitant on it... but that was the eventual plan.

It could have backfired on many levels but I didn't care. I didn't want to just coast along and not deserve to be in the finals or to win the game, so I figured I'd either earn my way there by overcoming the Erz/Kipobe alliance, or I'd go home on my own grounds.

Whether it worked or not, fact remains that Erz would have went home. I'm curious what Kipobe would have done when I went to him regarding the plan to stick with him. I had mentioned how I wanted to do this in a previous round during our AIM conversation and he said it was a good move and he understood, so I was hoping he'd see my reasoning this time and still stick with me.

So though it didn't look like it, I was still remaining loyal to Kipobe and Hippie, my main alliances. I had no desire to play kingpin, I just wanted Erz gone, and he would have if not for Matt's crappy decision making (and now apparently ease of being coarsed by Kipobe on two occassions... some host :rolleyes: :)). Whether Erz would have been gone to do me, or due to some outside source, it still would have happened, so I was happy with how it turned out. My talking with Brodie about Kipobe arranging his going home wasn't my framing Kipobe, but honestly my just informing Brodie of something he may or may not have known for buddies sake. Though neither he or Kipobe really allied with me in the beginning, they still worked with me and kept me around, so I wanted to honor that. And Kipobe mentioned something about me still being in contact with Fran and IF after I left, but I don't think I spoke with either of them after I left. I may have sent a message or two, but it wasn't anything important to the game. I was rooting for Hippie all along, but I knew that if Kipobe got to the end, he'd have my vote, as he deserves it. And he got it, no question.

[Fran]

Norman and I were discussing this on AIM, I think Saturday night.

Kipobe deserved to win. He played the game perfect to a T. He manipulated and betrayed almost everyone, and got away with it scot-free.

[JewishHobbit]

Oh, and I got ahold of Norman to try and send Erz home too, but then he got voted out, so I had to rely on Fran and IF to help.

[Immortalfire]

I predict Fran wins next time. I can't wait for a vote to be cast with his name as the winner and he will prove you wrong.


:ninja:

[Fran]

You'll all be jerks.

[Eric Draven]

Congrats Kipobe for the win. Now I think you should get rid of that quasi-victory you so-called claimed :cmad: :yay:

[Erzengel]

Hosts

OHS1:Reader
OHS2:Reader
OHS3:Reader
OHS4:Reader
HS1: BrodieBruce
HS2: TheCheshireCat
HS3: Tukiluka
HS4: BrodieBruce/Pirateking
HS5: Tukiluka
HS10: Toven/Matt
HS37: jackcool & TheCheshireCat
HSNAvE: Pirateking/Matt
HS69: Movies205
HS3.14: Kipobe
HS14: Toven/Watchman
HSPI: Tukiluka/Childlike Wild
HSE: Erzengel
HS18G: Kipobe/Toven
HS19: Matt

Winner

OHS1: HyperVenom
OHS2: slinger
OHS3: Saoshyant
OHS4: ThemanofBat
HS1: Spider-Nerd
HS2: Tukiluka
HS3: Spider Jerusaleum
HS4: Godlovinspidey
HS5: Kessel Day
HS10: jackcool
HS37: Pirateking
HSNAvE: ---
HS69: Erzengel
HS3.14: SonOfLogan
HS14: jackcool
HSPI: Kmack
HSE: Slipknot
HS18G: Childlike Wild
HS19: Kipobe

[Fran]

Kipobe predicted it in the HS18 thread, Day 20 I think.

[Mee]

No, I predicted it. :mad:

[Fran]

Hal Jordan predicted everything.

[Mee]

He's more man than we'll ever be. :csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

Congrats Kip, you betch :up:

[Venom Drool]

what pisses me off the most is the fact that i didnt have a fighting chance and was screwed by the immunity idol. whatever. i didnt play a good game. i'll admit that much. the loss of my number 1 and a half ally in the first round sorta took me out. and i also blamed in on erz who didnt so much as speak to me. blargh. at least kip won.. i guess... :) .... :csad:

[Erzengel]

Sorry. :csad: We need to keep the mystique that it was me, Fran, SN, Fire and ETM versus you, Brodie, HH, JH, & Kipobe. I wanted as little to do with you, HH & JH so as not to ruin our plans. :)

[Erzengel]

On a side note, if it wasn't for Matt's challenge on Valentine's Day where HH was actually snowed in and me and Kipobe weren't around (which I know is part of the game), if him, me or Fran won that, I would have probably been in the Final 2. Secondly I should have doublechecked my answers for the Comic Book Challenge.

[AndThePickles]

Congrats Kipobe!!!

[Matt]

On a side note, if it wasn't for Matt's challenge on Valentine's Day where HH was actually snowed in and me and Kipobe weren't around (which I know is part of the game), if him, me or Fran won that, I would have probably been in the Final 2. Secondly I should have doublechecked my answers for the Comic Book Challenge.

It would've been a tie if you didn't take out your answer about Isiah at the last minute.

[Matt]

what pisses me off the most is the fact that i didnt have a fighting chance and was screwed by the immunity idol. whatever. i didnt play a good game. i'll admit that much. the loss of my number 1 and a half ally in the first round sorta took me out. and i also blamed in on erz who didnt so much as speak to me. blargh. at least kip won.. i guess... :) .... :csad:

Actually, that was one of Kipobe's brilliant plans. They set the votes up so you would fall and Jewhob would lose the idol.

[Matt]

I got this PM from Erzengel right after he sent his answers

1) Name the identity of the first Captain America? Bonus point for naming his first appearance?
If you want to go by actual Comic History
Steven Rogers was Steve Roger's Ancestor and referred to Captain America even it was just a nickname - Captain America #194.

Isaiah Bradley was injected with the superhero serum before Rogers and donned the suit - Truth: Red, White and Black Limited Series.

If you mean real history as in 1941
Steve Rogers - Captain America Comics #1.


I'd like to remove the Isaiah Bradley from my submission. And stick with Steven Rogers if you are talking about continuity in comics and Steve Rogers if you mean by the actual year.[/QUOTE]

Had he just left that in, I would've given him credit.

[Erzengel]

That was our 2nd try to remove JewHob's idol actually.

The first time we tried to do it with ETM, but Fire and VD didn't vote.

So ETM got more votes and was booted.

[Matt]

Yea, I remember that, Kipobe was pretty upset over it if I'm not mistaken...you pretty much signed your own death certificate by not voting VD.

[Erzengel]

I got this PM from Erzengel right after he sent his answers



I'd like to remove the Isaiah Bradley from my submission. And stick with Steven Rogers if you are talking about continuity in comics and Steve Rogers if you mean by the actual year.

Had he just left that in, I would've given him credit.
Actually even in the event of a tie, HH sent his in first so he would still get immunity.

But I still think that the right answer was Steven Rogers, his ancestor from Revolutionary Times.

http://www.geocities.com/ratmmjess/rogers.html

http://www.geocities.com/ratmmjess/rogers.jpg

Regardless it would have still be a tie with him having the earlier entry.

Not using Abomination's name, Emil Blonsky was a stupid mistake.

[Matt]

Actually even in the event of a tie, HH sent his in first so he would still get immunity.

But I still think that the right answer was Steven Rogers, his ancestor from Revolutionary Times.

http://www.geocities.com/ratmmjess/rogers.html

http://www.geocities.com/ratmmjess/rogers.jpg

Regardless it would have still be a tie with him having the earlier entry.

Not using Abomination's name, Emil Blonsky was a stupid mistake.

Nope, I stated via PM that ties would've been broken via sudden death because the final three is too important to make a race.

[Erzengel]

What about the Captain America question? I'm only arguing that right now for the sake of my own ego but what do you think?

[hippie_hunter]

On a side note, if it wasn't for Matt's challenge on Valentine's Day where HH was actually snowed in and me and Kipobe weren't around (which I know is part of the game), if him, me or Fran won that, I would have probably been in the Final 2. Secondly I should have doublechecked my answers for the Comic Book Challenge.
Quit your complaining. You got sex out of it :cmad:

And I took you out of the final two because you ASKED for it. I was seriously thinking which one to choose.

[Erzengel]

Well given the situation of Me and you in the Final or 2 or Kipobe and you I thought Kipobe was more deserving. But because we orchestrated the entire game up to the Final 3, I think it was appropriate for us to headline the Final 2. No offense. We just got hit with 2 challenges in a row that didn't go our way.

[hippie_hunter]

Well given the situation of Me and you in the Final or 2 or Kipobe and you I thought Kipobe was more deserving. But because we orchestrated the entire game up to the Final 3, I think it was appropriate for us to headline the Final 2. No offense. We just got hit with 2 challenges in a row that didn't go our way.

Yes, Kipobe was more deserving. That was one of the two main factors that made me choose him over you. But the biggest one was simply because you asked me to kick you out.

And I think I deserved my spot in the final two. I have no ill feelings for Kipobe easily beating me in the finals and I am actually glad he won.

[Erzengel]

Oh you definitelly deserved to be in the Final 2. However, everything that you attribute to Kipobe winning, were my ideas too.

We just couldn't seem to get you out. :o

[hippie_hunter]

Oh you definitelly deserved to be in the Final 2. However, everything that you attribute to Kipobe winning, were my ideas too.

Kipobe told me that you were a major contributor. I completely understand that.

We just couldn't seem to get you out. :o
:woot:

[Fran]

Do we have some controversy or something?

[Erzengel]

No not at all.

Our original plan was to have Kipobe & Brodie in the Final 2. I was going to bow out in the Final 3.

Obviously Brodie getting booted changed that. We both realized hey, we did the same amount of work we should both be in the Final 2 and that's what happened.

With this game you can't have a set outline of how to do things, you should have a plan and roll with any punch you get. I was hoping that Day 15 or Day 16 went differently but you have to modify what you wanted to do originally.

[Matt]

What about the Captain America question? I'm only arguing that right now for the sake of my own ego but what do you think?

From what I'm to understand, TMOB meant actually dawn the alter ego of captain america, not just be called it by his buddies.

[Fran]

If I was a minute quicker, I could've been in the final 3. I blame Pi for that! :cmad:

[Erzengel]

From what I'm to understand, TMOB meant actually dawn the alter ego of captain america, not just be called it by his buddies.
Well that's left up for interpretation then isn't it? I mean I didn't want to argue it because I thought in the event of a tie HH would have won I blanked where you said it would go to sudden death.

Oh well. I just wanted a little verifcation.

[Erzengel]

If I was a minute quicker, I could've been in the final 3. I blame Pi for that! :cmad:
I played 5 times (Ugh). Aside from my win and this final 3. The rest of my outings were 8th, 12th and 15th.

You should be happy with 4th.

[Fran]

I played 5 times (Ugh). Aside from my win and this final 3. The rest of my outings were 8th, 12th and 15th.

You should be happy with 4th.

I know, I just thought it was kinda silly to wait around 7 hours for one question.

[hippie_hunter]

If I was a minute quicker, I could've been in the final 3. I blame Pi for that! :cmad:

I promised you a spot in the final 3. PROMISED! You were guaranteed a spot there. And I would have probally taken you to the final 2 also. All you had to do was simply do as I said, and voted for Erz. :cmad:

[Fran]

I owed it to obey Erz one last time, so I changed my vote to Kipobe. It was making up for past mistakes.

I highly doubt you would've taken me into the final two. Kipobe was telling me a lot about what you were planning to do, etc.

[Kipobe]

No not at all.

Our original plan was to have Kipobe & Brodie in the Final 2. I was going to bow out in the Final 3.

Obviously Brodie getting booted changed that. We both realized hey, we did the same amount of work we should both be in the Final 2 and that's what happened.

With this game you can't have a set outline of how to do things, you should have a plan and roll with any punch you get. I was hoping that Day 15 or Day 16 went differently but you have to modify what you wanted to do originally.

Actually, towards the end of the game we only had I think one day that really went our way... everything after Teddy's day (and inclusive of) was set to screw us... so for either of us to get as far as we did without Brodie, and technically everyone against us (at one point or another), then we should've been gone too, but we survived! 'fire winning immunity and then exiling Jew was bananas... after that, I thought we were done for sure.

That's a perfect example of why being a challenge strong person is important. hippie showed that down the stretch, and that's why he became unkillable. My biggest weakness is challenges... I'm not quick with most of them, and I'm not the most skilled unless I throw my entire time into it... but my time is mainly spent on organizing and planning. I like to have Brodie with me because he's a challenge player, and Erz is too... but myself personally, I'd be screwed.

[Matt]

Well that's left up for interpretation then isn't it? I mean I didn't want to argue it because I thought in the event of a tie HH would have won I blanked where you said it would go to sudden death.

Oh well. I just wanted a little verifcation.

I dunno, ask TMOB. He is the comic expert in these parts so I don't question his judgement.

[Matt]

Actually, towards the end of the game we only had I think one day that really went our way... everything after Teddy's day (and inclusive of) was set to screw us... so for either of us to get as far as we did without Brodie, and technically everyone against us (at one point or another), then we should've been gone too, but we survived! 'fire winning immunity and then exiling Jew was bananas... after that, I thought we were done for sure.


I think the Fire winning and Jew being exiled day is a perfect example of why you deserved the win. You not only played the other players to your advantage, you played the rules to your advantage.

[Erzengel]

To be honest, I was ready to give up that round. And just say screw it. It was Kipobe bringing up JewHob's posts during exile, that gave me renewed vigor.

Right now, I can play again but the constant vigilance towards the end is just tiresome you almost stop caring.

[Kipobe]

The Story of etm

etm was an ally of mine that I tried to work with because he has had terrible luck with these games. Both times he's played he's been voted out on Day 2... so I said to myself, why not show this guy the ropes and give him some success enough to let him figure out how to play as he got along.

So anyway, it fast became apparent that this was the stupidest person in the world. As Erz and I stated, we orchestrated events to take the captain roles so we could boot who we wanted and keep who we wanted. Even though etm was my ally, I think Erz and I agreed that Erz should take him... so then etm fast became distant from me.

Everytime I contacted him to find out updates in the tribe and to keep good relations he would say things like "um, excuse me... I don't think we're on the same team..." I tried to explain to him that allies were more important that teams, and he'd realize that if we ever do a tribal swap or when the merge hits. He blew me off. So I told him that I had a measure of control whether he stayed or not, and he said there's no way.

Regardless, he was voting correctly most of the time (except for the Sofa thing early on) so I let it slide, but when the merge hit, he was so tied to his former "teammates" that he was completely oblivious to the previous alliance we had set up. I told him he should be happy he made it past day 2, and I told him in a cocky way to say thank you to me. He said there was no way I could've had any control over that, and he told me he was gonna vote off Brodie... I think this was when Venom tried to scare up votes for me. He managed to rally 4 (including himself) but we had 6, so I wasn't worried. All the same, I asked to be exiled, and whoever we chose to go after would have more votes than Brodie so everything was fine.

I warned etm not to go for it... he said he's had a good run and he's proud he made it that far. I told him he could make it further if he listened to me... he said I didn't have any kind of control AGAIN, and then I told him this was his last day. Goodbye. :heart:

etm got voted out (obviously) mostly because we wanted him gone before the jury... but also because he was too stubborn and stupid. He PM'd me afterwards and said I wouldn't get very far and the targets were all on me. I knew that, but he didn't know where my connects were and completely underestimated me everyday. If he had listened, maybe he'd of at least made the jury... but he was unstable and stupid.

Moral of the story: don't be like etm... he has no idea how the game works. We should've had him voted off on Day 2 to keep his streak alive. Instead, we kept him... and he learnt nothing.

So I would like to propose this rule from here on out: EVERY game that etm plays in, whoever sees this, VOTE HIM OUT ON DAY 2! I'd like that to be set as a rule... it'll be a reminder of how NOT to play. The day he overcomes being voted out on Day 2 by himself is the day he DESERVES to get further... because he didn't deserve to get further in this game... but he was carried... partially by me... someone he doubted after day one! And he should learn that.

The end.

:cyclops:

[Fran]

ETM was a little TOO loyal. I mean, everything Norman and I were telling him, he'd do, no sweat. It was appreciated, though.

Oh, and Norman and I were talking through the WHOLE game, almost starting from around day one. I know I said we hated each other, but I wanted to throw a smokescreen for a while.

[Kipobe]

To be honest, I was ready to give up that round. And just say screw it. It was Kipobe bringing up JewHob's posts during exile, that gave me renewed vigor.

Right now, I can play again but the constant vigilance towards the end is just tiresome you almost stop caring.

You just said a mouthful right there because that's EXACTLY how I felt when I allied with Toven in the last game I was in. We controlled everyone and everything... all the numbers were in our favor, and if I wanted to be brutal and vote out Toven, then all the numbers were in Brodie and MY favor. The final 7 included Brodie, myself, Venom and rogue_devlin (my crew) and Toven, Jewhob and Kmack.

Toven didn't want to vote off Kmack and I gave in and let all my allies go. Not because I was beat in numbers, but because I didn't have any endurance left... even though all the numbers were in our favor.... and she was such a ***** I just stopped caring.

I always look back at that as the game I should've/could've/would've won, so I took a few games off... hosted one, and now I returned, determined not to fall victim to the same problem.

[Colossal Spoons]

I feel glad to have participated in voting ETM out on Day 2 last game.

[Fran]

I'm still amazed Zenien played this game. :huh:

[hippie_hunter]

I owed it to obey Erz one last time, so I changed my vote to Kipobe. It was making up for past mistakes.

I highly doubt you would've taken me into the final two. Kipobe was telling me a lot about what you were planning to do, etc.

I knew Kipobe was hiding a lot from me (and I suspected the same from Jew). So I didn't tell him every single thing. My plan was to get rid of Erz, take you to the final three, win immunity, take you to final two, and then win. I figured I would have lost to both Kipobe and Erz by a vote of 3 to 4 (I didn't see Kipobe winning unanimously, it did surprise me), but I figured I would have won with you on the final two.

[Fran]

I'd rather be in the final four than just have someone say, "Oh, you're coming with me to the finals so I can win, lolz!"

Nah. I wouldn't go with that.

[hippie_hunter]

I'd rather be in the final four than just have someone say, "Oh, you're coming with me to the finals so I can win, lolz!"

Nah. I wouldn't go with that.

But second place is such an honor :oldrazz:

And it's precisely why I told no one of that plan. :cmad:

[Fran]

Kipobe allied with me right when Matt started the sign-up thread. I messed up in the game sometimes, so I owed it to him to get him in the finals and win.

[Erzengel]

A little side note to the ETM story was during that Europe Geography Map where he sent in his entry which was his first and only attempt and he was like I played honorably and didn't cheat. I told him, yeah he even said in the rules that you could do it more than once and send in your best score. He replied with he did his best.

:huh:

[Matt]

ETM was a little TOO loyal. I mean, everything Norman and I were telling him, he'd do, no sweat. It was appreciated, though.

Oh, and Norman and I were talking through the WHOLE game, almost starting from around day one. I know I said we hated each other, but I wanted to throw a smokescreen for a while.

That 'smokescreen' was almost hard to see through ;)

[Fran]

A little side note to the ETM story was during that Europe Geography Map where he sent in his entry which was his first and only attempt and he was like I played honorably and didn't cheat. I told him, yeah he even said in the rules that you could do it more than once and send in your best score. He replied with he did his best.

:huh:

Yeah, I remember that. I was laughing my ass off when you told me.

[Fran]

That 'smokescreen' was almost hard to see through ;)

Well, I know it was sometimes obvious, but we tried to make it look like we hated each other in the threads, but it failed. :csad:

Norman was a great ally. Truly great.

[Matt]

I feel glad to have participated in voting ETM out on Day 2 last game.

We didn't agree on much last game...but I think the best thing we ever did together was taking that ******* out :up:

[Fran]

I hope Asteroid-Man NEVER plays again :csad:

[Matt]

The Story of etm

etm was an ally of mine that I tried to work with because he has had terrible luck with these games. Both times he's played he's been voted out on Day 2... so I said to myself, why not show this guy the ropes and give him some success enough to let him figure out how to play as he got along.

So anyway, it fast became apparent that this was the stupidest person in the world. As Erz and I stated, we orchestrated events to take the captain roles so we could boot who we wanted and keep who we wanted. Even though etm was my ally, I think Erz and I agreed that Erz should take him... so then etm fast became distant from me.

Everytime I contacted him to find out updates in the tribe and to keep good relations he would say things like "um, excuse me... I don't think we're on the same team..." I tried to explain to him that allies were more important that teams, and he'd realize that if we ever do a tribal swap or when the merge hits. He blew me off. So I told him that I had a measure of control whether he stayed or not, and he said there's no way.

Regardless, he was voting correctly most of the time (except for the Sofa thing early on) so I let it slide, but when the merge hit, he was so tied to his former "teammates" that he was completely oblivious to the previous alliance we had set up. I told him he should be happy he made it past day 2, and I told him in a cocky way to say thank you to me. He said there was no way I could've had any control over that, and he told me he was gonna vote off Brodie... I think this was when Venom tried to scare up votes for me. He managed to rally 4 (including himself) but we had 6, so I wasn't worried. All the same, I asked to be exiled, and whoever we chose to go after would have more votes than Brodie so everything was fine.

I warned etm not to go for it... he said he's had a good run and he's proud he made it that far. I told him he could make it further if he listened to me... he said I didn't have any kind of control AGAIN, and then I told him this was his last day. Goodbye. :heart:

etm got voted out (obviously) mostly because we wanted him gone before the jury... but also because he was too stubborn and stupid. He PM'd me afterwards and said I wouldn't get very far and the targets were all on me. I knew that, but he didn't know where my connects were and completely underestimated me everyday. If he had listened, maybe he'd of at least made the jury... but he was unstable and stupid.

Moral of the story: don't be like etm... he has no idea how the game works. We should've had him voted off on Day 2 to keep his streak alive. Instead, we kept him... and he learnt nothing.

So I would like to propose this rule from here on out: EVERY game that etm plays in, whoever sees this, VOTE HIM OUT ON DAY 2! I'd like that to be set as a rule... it'll be a reminder of how NOT to play. The day he overcomes being voted out on Day 2 by himself is the day he DESERVES to get further... because he didn't deserve to get further in this game... but he was carried... partially by me... someone he doubted after day one! And he should learn that.

The end.

:cyclops:

I just think people like that shouldn't selected anymore. Same with Asteroid-Man.

[StorminNorman]

Norman was a great ally. Truly great.
great too, except for the one or two nights where he got uber paranoid and was convinced I was going to strangle him in his bed sheets :(

[Fran]

great too, except for the one or two nights where he got uber paranoid and was convinced I was going to strangle him in his bed sheets :(

Yeah, I was a little worried about me lasting any longer around the time that happened. And that was when you won that "Bear" prize and such.

[Erzengel]

I just think people like that shouldn't selected anymore. Same with Asteroid-Man.
Well we debated on Teddy and Movies but we found that they would be more trouble than they were worth. We could see them trying to start some sort of uprising that we would have to quell and we didn't want to risk that so we went with people like ETM and AM thinking they'd be the lesser of 2 evils.

Actually we felt the same way about Darthphere because of him just turning on Matt 2 games ago. But we allowed him in anyways.

[Colossal Spoons]

We didn't agree on much last game...but I think the best thing we ever did together was taking that ******* out :up:


As is my usual schtick; there was no strategy involved there. He just had to go :o

[hippie_hunter]

I just think people like that shouldn't selected anymore. Same with Asteroid-Man.

No way, we need more Asteroid-Man :cmad:

[Fran]

Movies sent me a PM with a list of people he'd be allied with (including me), and that he would keep those people safe as long as he could. But I just clicked "Delete," because it was kinda ridiculous. He's NOT Michael J. Fox, that's for sure.

[Matt]

Well we debated on Teddy and Movies but we found that they would be more trouble than they were worth. We could see them trying to start some sort of uprising that we would have to quell and we didn't want to risk that so we went with people like ETM and AM thinking they'd be the lesser of 2 evils.

Actually we felt the same way about Darthphere because of him just turning on Matt 2 games ago. But we allowed him in anyways.

If I were drafting, I would've picked TEDDY...just for the sake of having an incredibly easy first target. Movies on the otherhand...yeah, this was a game of rookies, the three real veterans (you, Kipobe, and Brodie) were allied. Having an odd man out who actually knows the game could've hurt that.

[Erzengel]

great too, except for the one or two nights where he got uber paranoid and was convinced I was going to strangle him in his bed sheets :(
Some good advice that I can give you is if you are going to go back and forth between allies the way you did make sure they aren't allied.

While it's easier to get further in the game by backstabbing, you have to be aware the people you backstab are the ones in the jury.

[Erzengel]

If I were drafting, I would've picked TEDDY...just for the sake of having an incredibly easy first target. Movies on the otherhand...yeah, this was a game of rookies, the three real veterans (you, Kipobe, and Brodie) were allied. Having an odd man out who actually knows the game could've hurt that.
I figured ETM would just be so happy to be picked and kept around that he'd vote along with the rest of us when pressured. Almost an easy target that we could eliminate in case of an emergency.

[StorminNorman]

Some good advice that I can give you is if you are going to go back and forth between allies the way you did make sure they aren't allied.

While it's easier to get further in the game by backstabbing, you have to be aware the people you backstab are the ones in the jury.

My goal this game was less to win, and more just get as far as I could, it being my first time. As long as I survived the next council, I was happy.

What was bad though is that it went against my own nature. While I would normally want to look at things more logically and rashly, I got careless and jumpy in this game at times. Going back on it, my biggest regret was losing your trust early. I intentionally went out of my way to make it seem that I was not trying to merely ride the coat tails of more veteran players - my ego got the best of me in that situation.

[Kipobe]

Okay, now that it's all over.... I'm going to tell my side of my betrayal here.

Kipobe opened up to me about his alliance with Erz and all that. I respected him for it, and honestly didn't have anything against him for it, but knew I'd always be the 3rd wheel to he and Erz. I felt that if it came down to the three of us, each of them would take each other to the finals, thus, I'd have to win my way there, and I'm only so so at most challenges, so that wasn't going to do me well. I didn't have anything against either of them, but I didn't want to be a pawn or just someone sailing along and not earning my keep. Thus, I decided to throw all caution to the wind and show all my cards. I got ahold of Hippie, Fran, and IF and shared all I knew with them.

If I recall correctly, I never asked Fran or IF for an alliance, I asked for their votes. I pretended to be very angry at both Kipobe and Erz so I'd rally them. I knew that the PM I sent them would get back to Erz or Kipobe but decided to go with it anyhow. (honestly, I expected IF to inform them before Fran, but oh well). I figured Kipobe would knew I was doing this, but just in case I figured I'd try to play it off by claiming I was tempting them. The AIM converation we all had was last minute planning that I was never really convinced worked. I figured I'd try to throw the blame on IF, but again, I figured it wouldn't matter anyhow. It was worth a shot.

The plan was to try to rally the vote against Erz and get him voted out. Then Hippie and I would try to work with Kipobe now that Erz was out of the way to send If and Fran home, and then the best two to make it to the finals make it. Hippie started this idea and I was all for it, but I didn't know exactly where he was so I acted hesitant on it... but that was the eventual plan.

It could have backfired on many levels but I didn't care. I didn't want to just coast along and not deserve to be in the finals or to win the game, so I figured I'd either earn my way there by overcoming the Erz/Kipobe alliance, or I'd go home on my own grounds.

Whether it worked or not, fact remains that Erz would have went home. I'm curious what Kipobe would have done when I went to him regarding the plan to stick with him. I had mentioned how I wanted to do this in a previous round during our AIM conversation and he said it was a good move and he understood, so I was hoping he'd see my reasoning this time and still stick with me.

So though it didn't look like it, I was still remaining loyal to Kipobe and Hippie, my main alliances. I had no desire to play kingpin, I just wanted Erz gone, and he would have if not for Matt's crappy decision making (and now apparently ease of being coarsed by Kipobe on two occassions... some host :rolleyes: :)). Whether Erz would have been gone to do me, or due to some outside source, it still would have happened, so I was happy with how it turned out. My talking with Brodie about Kipobe arranging his going home wasn't my framing Kipobe, but honestly my just informing Brodie of something he may or may not have known for buddies sake. Though neither he or Kipobe really allied with me in the beginning, they still worked with me and kept me around, so I wanted to honor that. And Kipobe mentioned something about me still being in contact with Fran and IF after I left, but I don't think I spoke with either of them after I left. I may have sent a message or two, but it wasn't anything important to the game. I was rooting for Hippie all along, but I knew that if Kipobe got to the end, he'd have my vote, as he deserves it. And he got it, no question.

I just read this...

Jew, you have to get passed the "pawn" thing. It was something I said early on in the game to try and stir fun. I even put it in my sig. You did well, you really did... but everyone has a role in the game, and if you had accepted the final 3 offer to replace Brodie, you would've earned it. You were then in on the inside track. Granted, you would've been the third wheel, but if you won immunity on that final day you would DEFINATELY deserve to be there.

There's no guarantees with a final 3 arrangement. ANYONE can go... like hippie did when Erz and myself's only agenda for that day was "don't let hippie win immunity". (haha).

It's ironic that you said and did all this when the game you played with Toven you were her lapdog. You were the third wheel in a lesbian love-fest. How did you think that was gonna end? Toven used you as a pawn.

And I'm not knocking Spoons and Pickles, but if you really went to the final 3 with them, how did you think that was gonna end as well? Then this game you choose me and Brodie, and we clearly would never veer from each other.

I told you half-truths and half-lies when I "opened" up to you in that AIM conversation... one of them was the Brodie thing, I didn't want you to know how badly I wanted hippie gone until he was actually gone, so I made it seem like I cast a vote for Brodie instead of hippie (I think I told hippie the same thing since you guys were in so much talks back then). But I'd never vote out Brodie. I've allied with him in the three games we've both played together, and he's been extremely loyal to me, and vice versa... I wouldn't ruin the longest alliance I've ever had for really.... anyone. When he was on the line I did have to look at things objectively, assuming he wasn't coming back... but to backstab him? Nah... sorry. Your telling him wasn't really anything more than me showing you to be who I thought you were.

But with all that behind us, I will say this: I do like a lot of your playing ways... but a lot of them are just wrong as well. You need to play within some sort of system. Not everyone is Danny Ocean... but he can't do it by himself. Not everyone is Rusty Ryan... but he's only one man. Sometimes you gotta be the little Chinese guy, Jew. Sometimes you gotta be the little chinese guy. :csad:

[Matt]

I figured ETM would just be so happy to be picked and kept around that he'd vote along with the rest of us when pressured. Almost an easy target that we could eliminate in case of an emergency.

Yeah, I can see picking ETM. I probably just would've taken TEDDY over Phere.

[Erzengel]

My goal this game was less to win, and more just get as far as I could, it being my first time. As long as I survived the next council, I was happy.



What was bad though is that it went against my own nature. While I would normally want to look at things more logically and rashly, I got careless and jumpy in this game at times. Going back on it, my biggest regret was losing your trust early. I intentionally went out of my way to make it seem that I was not trying to merely ride the coat tails of more veteran players - my ego got the best of me in that situation.
I debated a few times whether to allow you into the Final 4 because you helped so much in the challenges. :o

And I don't the whole coat tails or pawn analogies. If you are helping along on a challenge, that's participating you are helping to win as opposed to just skating around.

ETM was riding coat tails most of the game. I think he might of helped a little bit during 1 or 2 challenges.

[Immortalfire]

I sucked at this :ninja: :hyper:

I just hope none of you pull a Susan Hawk, and turn into an angry b**** because I didn't do this or that.

[Erzengel]

I just read this...

Jew, you have to get passed the "pawn" thing. It was something I said early on in the game to try and stir fun. I even put it in my sig. You did well, you really did... but everyone has a role in the game, and if you had accepted the final 3 offer to replace Brodie, you would've earned it. You were then in on the inside track. Granted, you would've been the third wheel, but if you won immunity on that final day you would DEFINATELY deserve to be there.

There's no guarantees with a final 3 arrangement. ANYONE can go... like hippie did when Erz and myself's only agenda for that day was "don't let hippie win immunity". (haha).

It's ironic that you said and did all this when the game you played with Toven you were her lapdog. You were the third wheel in a lesbian love-fest. How did you think that was gonna end? Toven used you as a pawn.

And I'm not knocking Spoons and Pickles, but if you really went to the final 3 with them, how did you think that was gonna end as well? Then this game you choose me and Brodie, and we clearly would never veer from each other.

I told you half-truths and half-lies when I "opened" up to you in that AIM conversation... one of them was the Brodie thing, I didn't want you to know how badly I wanted hippie gone until he was actually gone, so I made it seem like I cast a vote for Brodie instead of hippie (I think I told hippie the same thing since you guys were in so much talks back then). But I'd never vote out Brodie. I've allied with him in the three games we've both played together, and he's been extremely loyal to me, and vice versa... I wouldn't ruin the longest alliance I've ever had for really.... anyone. When he was on the line I did have to look at things objectively, assuming he wasn't coming back... but to backstab him? Nah... sorry. Your telling him wasn't really anything more than me showing you to be who I thought you were.
That's what really turned Fran to our side. He was so pissed off about me and you being allied. After he calmed down and I explained why I wasn't playing to win, I finished off with "You were so furious about a "pawn" in Kipobe's and my scenario but aren't you a "pawn" in HH & JH's?" That's what did it for him.

But with all that behind us, I will say this: I do like a lot of your playing ways... but a lot of them are just wrong as well. You need to play within some sort of system. Not everyone is Danny Ocean... but he can't do it by himself. Not everyone is Rusty Ryan... but he's only one man. Sometimes you gotta be the little Chinese guy, Jew. Sometimes you gotta be the little chinese guy. :csad:

Hahahahahaha!!!!

I'm Rusty. :up:

[Erzengel]

I sucked at this :ninja: :hyper:

I just hope none of you pull a Susan Hawk, and turn into an angry b**** because I didn't do this or that.
You were a wild card, Fire. Sometimes you voted with us, sometimes not at all. And yeah I understand you work, but sometimes we really needed your vote like during the ETM vs. Jewhob scenario.

And then when you didn't respond to my pms, I knew something was up. Your silence was deafening. :csad:

[Darren Daring]

That's what really turned Fran to our side. He was so pissed off about me and you being allied. After he calmed down and I explained why I wasn't playing to win, I finished off with "You were so furious about a "pawn" in Kipobe's and my scenario but aren't you a "pawn" in HH & JH's?" That's what did it for him.


Hahahahahaha!!!!

I'm Rusty. :up:

I used to be Rusty:(


But No, Seriously, folks, Hooray for Kipobe, You're my hero, but you gotta come back one more time to get me that win. Also , Erz, you have to do it to, You're also awesome. I also promise to try next time and not phone it in.

[Erzengel]

Fine, I'll be Linus.

And seriously Brodie, we have to ally again sometime. Call my secretary. :up:

[Darren Daring]

Well, I know it was sometimes obvious, but we tried to make it look like we hated each other in the threads, but it failed. :csad:

Norman was a great ally. Truly great.


AHAHAHAHAH, noone was fooled, we all knew.

[Darren Daring]

Fine, I'll be Linus.

And seriously Brodie, we have to ally again sometime. Call my secretary. :up:


No, you earned Rusty, I'll take Linus.

But yeah, no, again, if you liked me this much when I did squat, wiit to you see me at full kilt. Just, uhh, ignore the paranoia, though.

[Darren Daring]

Yeah, Hippie, Sorry You wrote all that out, but I figured you would realize it was a lost vote. Oops.

But Hey, plus side, you got to read a great story.

[Fran]

AHAHAHAHAH, noone was fooled, we all knew.

That's why I said it failed.

[Matt]

I sucked at this :ninja: :hyper:

I just hope none of you pull a Susan Hawk, and turn into an angry b**** because I didn't do this or that.

IF, there are two kinds of people on this island. The snake, and the rat. You're umm...the bastard :yay:

But seriously, who could say anything mean about you? You are this games Miss(ter) Congeiniality. :up:

[hippie_hunter]

Yeah, Hippie, Sorry You wrote all that out, but I figured you would realize it was a lost vote. Oops.

But Hey, plus side, you got to read a great story.

I knew it was a lost vote, but I figured it would be worth a shot. :csad:

[hippie_hunter]

I want to be in the story for compensation of writing an 800 word essay on your fan fic filled with awesomesauce :cmad:

[Darren Daring]

I knew it was a lost vote, but I figured it would be worth a shot. :csad:


I Won't lie, It did give me pause(But only because Kip told me he had it wrapped up.)

[Darren Daring]

I want to be in the story for compensation of writing an 800 word essay on your fan fic filled with awesomesauce :cmad:

Well, I have Two chapters left, and no characters will be introduced, but if I ever do a sequel, you'll be at the top of the list.

[Erzengel]

StorminNorman.

Could you post that pic of Vote for Erzengel today, Vote out Asteroid-Man tomorrow because seriously that was my fave.

[Darren Daring]

Seriously, let's continue the love letter to Erz.

Erz, I played against you a few times, on opposite alliances. You were always scary. It's much more comforitng being on the same one.

[Erzengel]

No, you earned Rusty, I'll take Linus.

But yeah, no, again, if you liked me this much when I did squat, wiit to you see me at full kilt. Just, uhh, ignore the paranoia, though.
It's a play date. :up:

[hippie_hunter]

I Won't lie, It did give me pause(But only because Kip told me he had it wrapped up.)

Well at least I got something out of it

[Immortalfire]

IF, there are two kinds of people on this island. The snake, and the rat. You're umm...the bastard :yay: :csad:



But seriously, who could say anything mean about you? You are this games Miss(ter) Congeiniality. :up:
:yay:

[Fran]

Yeah, 'fire, your silence was a little confusing sometimes. Norman and I got worried when you wouldn't respond to the PMs we sent. And the JewHob alliance one, well, I was really sure that you told Erz.

[Kipobe]

Yeah, I can see picking ETM. I probably just would've taken TEDDY over Phere.

This is actually what I wanted to go with, but Brodie convinced Erz that Darth was a good ally of his, and they had talked out their plans. I felt uneasy, but we went with it anyway.

Beginning of the next day I say to Brodie he better know what he's doing, and Brodie said I probably should've voted him out and not listened to what he said.

:csad:

[Kipobe]

I used to be Rusty:(


But No, Seriously, folks, Hooray for Kipobe, You're my hero, but you gotta come back one more time to get me that win. Also , Erz, you have to do it to, You're also awesome. I also promise to try next time and not phone it in.

You were definately Linus this time around... but if I did come back, it woudl be for you and you alone. The pressure to win a game is non-existant now. I need Erz to break jack's record, and I need you to win one of these.

Maybe if Venom holds off in his HS20, we'll talk.

[Erzengel]

Survivor 21: Brodie's Turn

All my challenges will be Brodie related.

[Kipobe]

No, you earned Rusty, I'll take Linus.

But yeah, no, again, if you liked me this much when I did squat, wiit to you see me at full kilt. Just, uhh, ignore the paranoia, though.

Your paranoia is a *****.

[Kipobe]

Seriously, let's continue the love letter to Erz.

Erz, I played against you a few times, on opposite alliances. You were always scary. It's much more comforitng being on the same one.

This is true. From the moment I saw Erz sign up I had to contact him... I don't believe in going against a brick wall. I prefer it on my side. Who knew he could be this loyal and brilliant.

[Darren Daring]

Your paranoia is a *****.


Yeah, well, you've learned to overcome it.

[Kipobe]

Yeah, well, you've learned to overcome it.

That's why I was so concerned about you not believing Jew's stuff even though you already assured me your vote. I worked three games to avoid your distrust... and for Jew to take it away in two seconds would've sucked. :cmad:

[Darren Daring]

This is actually what I wanted to go with, but Brodie convinced Erz that Darth was a good ally of his, and they had talked out their plans. I felt uneasy, but we went with it anyway.

Beginning of the next day I say to Brodie he better know what he's doing, and Brodie said I probably should've voted him out and not listened to what he said.

:csad:


Well, having an alliance with Darth meant doing work. Plus, In one days retrospect, I didn't tust him at all.

[Darren Daring]

That's why I was so concerned about you not believing Jew's stuff even though you already assured me your vote. I worked three games to avoid your distrust... and for Jew to take it away in two seconds would've sucked. :cmad:

I came around:cmad: I tried to pull back my question about the Jew Stuff because it sounded like I didnt' trust you, but Matt wouldn't let me.