Snyder Throws a Sucker Punch

[JAK®]

the point is that all three are obsessed with only one style. they dont know how to try something different.
Why should they do something different if it works for them?

[Project862006]

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[KenK]

Uh . . . . yeah. Yeah, you . . . you tell 'em, man!

[TheComicbookKid]

, this looks to have some meat you can chew on after you leave the theater.

I hope you mean visually only. The net is serious business. Don't make jokes like that.

[Excelsior.]

I don't mean visually only. The internet is serious business. Look at the arguments that lasts 10's of pages.

[MessiahDecoy123]

To be fair both Bay and Snyder are "all style no substance" directors.

For this reason I'm worried about Superman. The best Superman movies had heart (thanks to Donner and Reeve).

[TheComicbookKid]

I don't mean visually only .
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As someone who was super excited about this film, I have to say it looks like complete drivel in good packaging.

Hopefully I'm wrong.


For this reason I'm worried about Superman. The best Superman movies had heart (thanks to Donner and Reeve).

I'll worry when the SHH headline reads Superman Reshoots: Nolan overseeing Snyder filming.

Bay, I think, knows he sucks at emotional filmmaking and really hasn't tried. At least not since the Island.

[MessiahDecoy123]

I'll worry when the SHH headline reads Superman Reshoots: Nolan overseeing Snyder filming.

Bay, I think, knows he sucks at emotional filmmaking and really hasn't tried. At least not since the Island.
Well people were crying during Armageddon but lets be honest, the "hero sacrifices himself and gives final speech while daughter cries" has to be the easiest tear jerker to pull off.

[Excelsior.]

As someone who was super excited about this film, I have to say it looks like complete drivel in good packaging.

Hopefully I'm wrong. You "were" excited? What made you not be excited presently?

[Project862006]

snyder has had plenty of heart in his films it is sad that people cant see this

people just see his stylistic visual style and it confuses them that a style like that can have some sort of heart

[Majik1387]

Well people were crying during Armageddon but lets be honest, the "hero sacrifices himself and gives final speech while daughter cries" has to be the easiest tear jerker to pull off.
Not to forgot there's a definitive difference between the likability between Bruce Willis and Liv Tyler against Shia LaBeouf, Megan Fox and cgi robots.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Snyder is NOT like Bay. None of his films are filled with bulls*** and middle school humor.

[TheComicbookKid]

You "were" excited? What made you not be excited presently?

It was sometime around when I found what the lobotomy was symbolized as in the dream world and the first trailer came out.

snyder has had plenty of heart in his films it is sad that people cant see this

people just see his stylistic visual style and it confuses them that a style like that can have some sort of heart

Dude's just a visually acute guy, imo. It overwhelms you to the point that it's all that matters. Symbolism or emotional buildup be damned. I've never been taking in by the way he films two characters talking. Contrasting his stuff with say the end conversation in X1 with Mags and X. You get a sense of history between the two that's been built up from the opening scene. The Comedian's death read as a guy getting killed. Nothing else. Not a guy used to being the one giving beatdowns losing. Just a guy getting beatdown.

Snyder's good at directing actors for the most part which I think means he will eventually get better. But he's not ready to pull off a scene like the Joker interrogation.

The most visually resonate scene in the entire trailer for me was the light bulb bursting.

[Project862006]

^completely disagree with you on watchmen it had tons of heart and emotion

agree to disagree

[JAK®]

Dude's just a visually acute guy, imo. I've never been taking in by the way he films two characters talking. Contrasting his stuff with say the end conversation in X1 with Mags and X. You get a sense of history between the two that's been built up from the opening scene. The Comedian's death read as a guy getting killed. Nothing else. Not a guy used to be the one giving beatdowns losing. Just a guy getting beatdown.

You're comparing an ending scene to an opening scene.

You're meant to see The Comedian as just a guy getting killed. You find out more about him in the rest of the movie. This was true in the comic also.

Maybe you should make a better comparison than that.

[TheComicbookKid]

You're comparing an ending scene to an opening scene.

You're meant to see The Comedian as just a guy getting killed. You find out more about him in the rest of the movie. This was true in the comic also.

Maybe you should make a better comparison than that.


Nope. The opening of X1 still portrays the history. The way we don't get to see Mags' face. Every scene in the movie mimcs that. Xavier's fraustration with his old friend. You don't need to know who the Comedian is why he's being attacked to get a sense of who the character is supposed to be. That's what a skilled director does. He can give you a sense of things even before the reveal.

If it makes you feel better.

How about the relationship between Laurie and her mother? It played as one dimensional mother-daughter anger. We don't even approach the parallels of what kind of guys she is attracted to in relation to how she sees her mother.

[Project862006]

laurie has anger towards her mother because she was forced into crime fighting at an early age

She does'nt know what to do with her life and is lost as she knows nothing but crime fighting which is why all her friends are crime fighters she cant have any type of relationship because she has been sheltered.

far from 1 dimensional

[TheComicbookKid]

laurie has anger towards her mother because she was forced into crime fighting at an early age

She does'nt know what to do with her life and is lost as she knows nothing but crime fighting which is why all her friends are crime fighters she cant have any type of relationship because she has been sheltered.

far from 1 dimensional

I didn't say what her character was supposed to be. I'm saying how it was portrayed on screen by the director.

I've never even read all of Watchmen and I'm telling you as someone going in blind. The relationship wasn't anything on screen.

[Project862006]

i was'nt referring to the book all this was in the film as well

[JAK®]

Nope. The opening of X1 still portrays the history. The way we don't get to see Mags' face. Every scene in the movie mimcs that. Xavier's fraustration with his old friend. You don't need to know who the Comedian is why he's being attacked to get a sense of who the character is supposed to be. That's what a skilled director does. He can give you a sense of things even before the reveal.

If it makes you feel better.

How about the relationship between Laurie and her mother? It played as one dimensional mother-daughter anger. We don't even approach the parallels of what kind of guys she is attracted to in relationship to how she sees her mother.
I think you're applying what Singer successfully intended to do in X-Men to Watchmen, and blaming Snyder for not doing what he hasn't done and never intended to do.

I mean, Watchmen is a mystery and X-Men isn't. For Watchmen, not having much of a connection to The Comedian doesn't matter because you are supposed to learn about him later. And through that, you connect with the character, as well as learn about the characters the mystery effects. It's supposed to make you wonder why The Comedian deserved being beaten up and killed. X-Men's opening scene was meant to garner sympathy.

It's simply not fair to criticise Snyder in this situation.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I cared about the characters in Dawn of the Dead. That film is really freakin good for that very reason. IMHO, 300 was terrible because of the story/script. No director could have saved it.

I'm not saying that ZS is the perfect director but Bay could not have made Dawn of the Dead as good as it was nor Watchmen. He is about mostly visuals and some of the performances in his movies leave alot to be desired but he isn't anywhere near as bad as Bay.

[Majik1387]

Bay is best as a producer and some visuals, other than that, he's not really that good.

[Project862006]

hey i love the bad boys movies

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't hate the Bad Boys movies but they aren't good. The only legit good film that Bay has done IMHO is The Rock. I actually think that Bay has become a far worst director over the years. It all started with Armageddon, a movie that I absolutely loathe with all of my soul. If Revenge of the Fallen didn't exist, I would still be b**ching about it.

[Lone]

snyder has had plenty of heart in his films it is sad that people cant see this

people just see his stylistic visual style and it confuses them that a style like that can have some sort of heart

Because if it doesn't look like a Nolan film, it's automatically ****.

According to internet nerds that is.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^lol unfortunately, that is true alot of the times. It's unfair and completely true.

How dare a movie look colorful and interesting!

[TheComicbookKid]

I think you're applying what Singer successfully intended to do in X-Men to Watchmen, and blaming Snyder for not doing what he hasn't done and never intended to do.

I mean, Watchmen is a mystery and X-Men isn't. For Watchmen, not having much of a connection to The Comedian doesn't matter because you are supposed to learn about him later. And through that, you connect with the character, as well as learn about the characters the mystery effects. It's supposed to make you wonder why The Comedian deserved being beaten up and killed. X-Men's opening scene was meant to garner sympathy.

It's simply not fair to criticise Snyder in this situation.

Bullcrap. A mystery is a genre. It has nothing to do with creating an atmosphere or impression about a character. Singer implied a history between two characters before he explained that he helped Charles build Cerebro. Heck, we still know very little about what that history is until FC comes out. Why Xavier is still hopeful about his friend is all in what Singer implies and never tells us.

I doubt any of us expected Mags and Xavier to have had a team of X-men together.


I"m sorry I brought up Watchmen. I forgot it's one of those third rail movies around here.

[Project862006]

exactly a movie has to be grounded in reality for some reason

i get tired of this grounded in reality BS let a movie just be fantasy for god sakes

[Excelsior.]

Its all Nolan's fault. Even though nobody mentioned him.

How dare a movie look colorful and interesting! There's naturally colourful (Tree of Life) and then there is digital overload. Some people don't like Digital Overload.

But of course its one extreme or the other. If one doesn't like digital overload he/she clearly only likes scratchy black and white films.

[MessiahDecoy123]

Personally I prefer Snyder's dreamworld over Nolan's.

but to some it's just a collection of soulless videogame cut scenes.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm fine with what Nolan does with his movies, they are good films but not every film can work with his style. And I don't want every movie to look or feel the same. It's okay for a fantasty movie to be outrageous and bright and colorful, provided I care about the characters and the story is somewhat interesting.

The look of Snyder's films are not the problem to me, I only have a problem with some of the performances in his films and the overuse of slo-mo. Is he the smartest director around? No but he can make a good movie, he proved it with Dawn of the Dead and Watchmen IMHO.

What was wrong with the way Dawn of the Dead looked anyhow?

Its all Nolan's fault. Even though nobody mentioned him.

There's naturally colourful (Tree of Life) and then there is digital overload. Some people don't like Digital Overload.

But of course its one extreme or the other. If one doesn't like digital overload he/she clearly only likes scratchy black and white films.Eh, everytime one of these fantasy films has an ounce of colorfulness to them I see constant b**ching about how it doesn't look dark and real. It's not just Snyder's digital looking films either. I have no problem with somebody not liking the GL trailer (it does have problems but I dug it) but I saw an awful lot of "it doesn't look serious and real and it looks ridiculous."

So every colorful movie should look like Tree of Life?

[A Necessary Evil]

Kinda excited for this movie. Wasn't a fan of Watchmen; but I have faith in Snyder, and for Supes.


Mainly cause Ms. Browning is the reason I am interested though. :hrt:

[Excelsior.]

I have no problem with somebody not liking the GL trailer (it does have problems but I dug it) but I saw an awful lot of "it doesn't look serious and real and it looks ridiculous."They seem to be talking about the tone not the visuals.

So every colorful movie should look like Tree of Life?Tree of Life was an example, not the only example.

[Lone]

Its all Nolan's fault. Even though nobody mentioned him.

It's "The Nolan Effect". Nowadays, when somebody screams for "realism" in a fantasy movie, 70% of the time what they really mean is "make it like a Nolan movie".

I don't hate Nolan. I hate his worshippers.:yay:

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It's "The Nolan Effect". Nowadays, when somebody screams for "realism" in a fantasy movie, 70% of the time what they really mean is "make it like a Nolan movie".

I don't hate Nolan. I hate his worshippers.:yay:Nolan made the best movie of the year IMHO and I overall love his films and wish him the best of luck in his career but I also hate alot of his fans. A poster like Anita is cool because she gives great insight into Nolan's films and eventhough she's obsessed with him she never comes off as a annoying overbaring loonie.

It's a shame and I wish it weren't true but most of the time it does come off as wishing for another Nolan type film. I remember back in 2006 when I complained about Superman Returns looking overly serious with it's muted colors and all, most did not agree with me. Ahh, the Nolan effect was even happening after Batman Begins.

[Excelsior.]

It's "The Nolan Effect". Nowadays, when somebody screams for "realism" in a fantasy movie, 70% of the time what they really mean is "make it like a Nolan movie".

I don't hate Nolan. I hate his worshippers.:yay: That's fine and dandy but nobody mentioned realism.

[Lone]

That's fine and dandy but nobody mentioned realism.

Really? I guess I mistook the *****ing about movies looking too stylized and too fantastical to mean that a more grounded, "real" looking film would be preferred.

Guess my Nolan comment rubbed you the wrong way, eh.

[Excelsior.]

Really? I guess I mistook the *****ing about movies looking too stylized and too fantastical to mean that a more grounded, "real" looking film would be preferred.Just because a movie is fantasy doesn't mean you have to go crazy with CGI and slow-mo.

This train of though has nothing to do with Nolan. You give him too much credit. The dude started directing in frickin' 1998. He didn't invent dark and gritty.

Guess my Nolan comment rubbed you the wrong way, eh.You wish.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

How about Nolan is totally excised from the convo and I just say; I don't think that every film should look semi-realistic and have muted colors?

Who knows maybe I'll watch the film and agree that Synders digital colorful world style is being overplayed and I'll hate the movie but that still doesn't change the fact that I don't want every movie to have muted color's and a semi-realistic feel.

[Excelsior.]

Why is everything in absolutes with you? Just because one doesn't like overstylized doesn't mean he/she only loves gritty looking films. There's something called middleground. I don't even have a problem with stylish aesthetics. I just don't like digital and excessive slow-mo. But somehow this not liking digital thing leaps to Nolan worship. A huge olympic leap.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Why does there have to be a middleground when it comes to colors in films? Why can't a film be over the top bright and colorful and still look good/be a good film? Can a movie ever look too gritty and real, no matter the subject matter?

And I've excised Nolan from this Convo so don't bring him up when talking to me about this. I'm talking in general now because bringing him up only causes arguements.

[JAK®]

Bullcrap. A mystery is a genre. It has nothing to do with creating an atmosphere or impression about a character.Well, you're wrong about that. Singer implied a history between two characters before he explained that he helped Charles build Cerebro. Heck, we still know very little about what that history is until FC comes out. Why Xavier is still hopeful about his friend is all in what Singer implies and never tells us.It's completely irrelevant what Singer did, because Snyder decided to do something else.

I doubt any of us expected Mags and Xavier to have had a team of X-men together.Or that the unknown assassin and The Comedian were almost in a team together. But hey, that's all part of the mystery.

I"m sorry I brought up Watchmen. I forgot it's one of those third rail movies around here.Oh shut up, don't try to dismiss my point because you can't back up your own.

[TheComicbookKid]

Well, you're wrong about that. It's completely irrelevant what Singer did, because Snyder decided to do something else.

Or that the unknown assassin and The Comedian were almost in a team together. But hey, that's all part of the mystery.

again, implying the nature of a character wouldn't be bad for a mystery. It's what music and lighting,etc are supposed to do. Give you an inkling that something more is going on. AKA Foreshadowing.

Maybe the point got lost somewhere in the "oh, noes someone dislikes Watchmen" argument but my point was that it's Snyder. Not a Singer versus Synder in this movie and that. It's in all of Snyder's films. 300, Dawn, ( haven't seen that owl). Dude is a strong visual guy and it overwhelms his ability to tell information without strong visuals.

It's like what I read about comic artist. Marvel/DC don't care how many splash pages of action you can do cause most issues are just people walking down streets and talking. If you can't make Peter Parker getting coffee interesting then you aren't a strong comic artist.

I do think Snyder is getting better. Watchmen was better, but that was an adapted work. Sucker Punch will be everything he's learned up til now.

Oh shut up, don't try to dismiss my point because you can't back up your own.

Calm your little behind down. Proving my point how over protective people get about films. I've done it about Supes Returns.

Get over yourself.

[Dark Knight]

Can't wait to see this original Snyder film Sucker Punch.

The imagery, fight and action scenes will be bad ass of course, and lets hope the story is a compelling one.

[Dark Knight]

Kinda excited for this movie. Wasn't a fan of Watchmen; but I have faith in Snyder, and for Supes.


Mainly cause Ms. Browning is the reason I am interested though. :hrt:






Watchmen was bad ass AND it was a criticaly acclaimed film. It received 3 stars from most critics and some fanboys didn't like it?

Go figure......:doh:

And yes, Ms Browning looks like hottie in this film.

[S.A.A.D.]

Nolan fans,SHOOSH!!!! This thread is about a 'Snyder' movie. :cmad:

[JAK®]

again, implying the nature of a character wouldn't be bad for a mystery. It's what music and lighting,etc are supposed to do. Give you an inkling that something more is going on. AKA Foreshadowing.That inkling would be the smiley-face badge and The Comedian's line "Just a matter of time I suppose". Oh, and the fact that someone just barged in and killed someone. That would make you think "Hmm, what did that guy do to deserve this?"

Maybe the point got lost somewhere in the "oh, noes someone dislikes Watchmen" argumentNo, it's just that your point isn't as strong as you think it is. Snyder, and many others, get a lot of unwarranted criticism because their films dare to look good. It's annoying to see directors get blamed for things they haven't done. but my point was that it's Snyder. Not a Singer versus Synder in this movie and that. It's in all of Snyder's films. 300, Dawn, ( haven't seen that owl). Dude is a strong visual guy and it overwhelms his ability to tell information without strong visuals.I don't think that's true, I think some people are just to snobbish about things that look good to see that information.

It's like what I read about comic artist. Marvel/DC don't care how many splash pages of action you can do cause most issues are just people walking down streets and talking. If you can't make Peter Parker getting coffee interesting then you aren't a strong comic artist.This is true, but I don't see how that applies to Snyder.

I do think Snyder is getting better. Watchmen was better, but that was an adapted work. Man, if having a film being an adaption means it doesn't count then a lot of acclaimed directors don't deserve the praise they are getting. Spielberg, Coppola, Jackson... they don't get any flack for having their best films be adaptions.

Calm your little behind down. Proving my point how over protective people get about films. I've done it about Supes Returns.

Get over yourself.Get over myself? You're the one who brought in phrases like "bullcrap" and tried to write off my argument by saying that I am being overprotective. I don't agree with your assessment. You seem to think the only reason that could be is if I was being biased in some way. Newsflash; I don't even plan on seeing Sucker Punch. I'm not some Snyder fanboy. But I don't agree with the frankly incorrect accusations he is getting.

[roach]

Nolan fans,SHOOSH!!!! This thread is about a 'Snyder' movie. :cmad:

Superherohype Rule number 38: Every thread will include a reference to Nolan and TDK

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Realism is fine where it's needed, but it's not needed in every movie.

Nolan's approach would not work for something like Dragon Ball Z, but I could definitely see him doing Metal Gear Solid. Snyder on the other hand would be perfect for DBZ.

Some people act like it has to be one or the other... isn't that the point of different directors? Then we get the extremes, even with 'dream worlds' we get Inception and then Sucker Punch.

[S.A.A.D.]

Rule 38 should be banned.

[TheComicbookKid]

That inkling would be the smiley-face badge and The Comedian's line "Just a matter of time I suppose". Oh, and the fact that someone just barged in and killed someone. That would make you think "Hmm, what did that guy do to deserve this?"

You seem to be confusing giving hints to the larger mystery with providing atmosphere to the character. The badge and line give rise to the larger mystery. I'm talking about creating an atmosphere to hint at the larger character. That's why I used the Xavier/Mags example. Cause it didn't need to tell exactly what the dynamic was in the opening scene just that there was one based on how Singer framed the shot. They didn't need to blurt out the entire backstory with a strong visual shot like the badge.

I'm not saying Snyder sucks cause he does that, I'm saying he relies a lot on the visual cues and his conversational scenes are always boring cause of it, imo.


No, it's just that your point isn't as strong as you think it is. Snyder, and many others, get a lot of unwarranted criticism because their films dare to look good. It's annoying to see directors get blamed for things they haven't done. I don't think that's true, I think some people are just to snobbish about things that look good to see that information.

This is true, but I don't see how that applies to Snyder.

Man, if having a film being an adaption means it doesn't count then a lot of acclaimed directors don't deserve the praise they are getting. Spielberg, Coppola, Jackson... they don't get any flack for having their best films be adaptions. ?"

What? Where did I say his films look good is a bad thing. I"m simply talking about the ways directors get info across. The fact that Snyder uses visuals to hammer his points home is why he gets the rep as style over substance. I didn't say it didn't count cause it was an adaptation. I said some of the work is done for him cause the book has been discussed and deconstructed. I only brought that up in relation to Sucker Punch that's his writing. He's going to be responsible for the allusion, symbolism, and characterizations from ground zero. There's no guide map.


Get over myself? You're the one who brought in phrases like "bullcrap" and tried to write off my argument by saying that I am being overprotective. I don't agree with your assessment. You seem to think the only reason that could be is if I was being biased in some way. Newsflash; I don't even plan on seeing Sucker Punch. I'm not some Snyder fanboy. But I don't agree with the frankly incorrect accusations he is getting.

Well, I apologize for using "Bullcrap" cause down here is just means "oh come on."

Did I say you were biased? I said you were fighting my opinion like it's fact. I wasn't saying how he should have done something or that Singer is better. I'm just stating I like how Singer gets subtle info across. We've all been on the Hype long enough to know how arguments bleed into one another and we start swinging wildly at an accusation. How can my opinion of Snyder's skills be an "incorrect accusation?" It's an opinion. Unless I"m mistaken, I never said anything about the quality of Watchmen or any other of Snyder's movie. Why are you in the Sucker Punch thread? Did I accuse you of being a Snyder fanboy?

IF I say I don't like the way Hitch draws faces, I'm not condemning him as an artist. I just don't like it.


All directors have weakness and have techniques/tropes they lean heavily on.

[Lone]

Just because a movie is fantasy doesn't mean you have to go crazy with CGI and slow-mo.

This train of though has nothing to do with Nolan. You give him too much credit. The dude started directing in frickin' 1998. He didn't invent dark and gritty.

You're missing the point I was trying to make. You actually think I'm putting down your God Nolan and his visual signature when I made my initial post. :facepalm:

You wish.

If that was my intent, then I'd say my wish was granted.:o

[Excelsior.]

You paranoid Nolan haters assume everyone who says anything bad about your favorite filmmaker is a Nolan fanboy. I am far from a Nolan fanboy as my posts from the Inception thread would prove.

[Lone]

You paranoid Nolan haters assume everyone who says anything bad about your favorite filmmaker is a Nolan fanboy. I am far from a Nolan fanboy as my posts from the Inception thread would prove.

And I am far from a Nolan hater. You'd know that if you'd bothered to comprehend my post. Your eagerness to jump to Nolan's defense at the slight mention of his name in what you assume to be a negative light is amusing for someone who claims not to be a Nolan fanboy.

I'd offer you a chance to continue this via PMs but I'm afraid the internet isn't serious business for me.:o

Sorry for the slight derail, folks.

[Parker Wayne]

I can see why Nolan is mentioned a lot.

Nolan was a director who lived up to high expectations not only once with The Dark Knight, but twice with Inception. He's a director who has shown that puts extreme thought into every scene and every frame of film without relying much on CGI or special effects. He's loved by the WB not only because of the Dark Knight, but also because he made Inception under budget. Nolan is very respectable director.

It is natural that everyone wants compare everyone to Nolan. He made one of the highest grossing films of all time and continues to be successful. Not mentioned being held in high regard by Batman fans. Is there any other fanbase of fans that has more respect for the director of their respective series? Maybe Favreau for the first two Iron Man films, but Iron Man wasn't as big or popular a character than Batman. When you live up to high expectations people are going to compare your directing skills to Nolan, especially Snyder since he's directing Superman with Nolan producing.

Nolan, whether liked or not, is one of the best directors in Hollywood, so I'm used to people bringing his name or TDK up in threads.

[XxDelta09xX]

Realism is fine where it's needed, but it's not needed in every movie.

Nolan's approach would not work for something like Dragon Ball Z, but I could definitely see him doing Metal Gear Solid. Snyder on the other hand would be perfect for DBZ.

Some people act like it has to be one or the other... isn't that the point of different directors? Then we get the extremes, even with 'dream worlds' we get Inception and then Sucker Punch.

:up:

[Excelsior.]

And I am far from a Nolan hater. You'd know that if you'd bothered to comprehend my post. Your eagerness to jump to Nolan's defense at the slight mention of his name in what you assume to be a negative light is amusing for someone who claims not to be a Nolan fanboy.

I'd offer you a chance to continue this via PMs but I'm afraid the internet isn't serious business for me.:o

Sorry for the slight derail, folks. I only assumed you are a Nolan hater (only to prove a point) after you assumed Nolan is "my God" simply because I said I don't like Snyder's aesthetic.

And Nolan defense comes naturally when you spend your time on the Spidey boards to see all the Nolan bickering.

[JAK®]

You paranoid Nolan haters
I am far from a Nolan fanboy:awesome:

[S.A.A.D.]

^:woot::awesome:

[Mario_Galaxy]

I can see why Nolan is mentioned a lot.

Nolan was a director who lived up to high expectations not only once with The Dark Knight, but twice with Inception. He's a director who has shown that puts extreme thought into every scene and every frame of film without relying much on CGI or special effects. He's loved by the WB not only because of the Dark Knight, but also because he made Inception under budget. Nolan is very respectable director.

It is natural that everyone wants compare everyone to Nolan. He made one of the highest grossing films of all time and continues to be successful. Not mentioned being held in high regard by Batman fans. Is there any other fanbase of fans that has more respect for the director of their respective series? Maybe Favreau for the first two Iron Man films, but Iron Man wasn't as big or popular a character than Batman. When you live up to high expectations people are going to compare your directing skills to Nolan, especially Snyder since he's directing Superman with Nolan producing.

Nolan, whether liked or not, is one of the best directors in Hollywood, so I'm used to people bringing his name or TDK up in threads.
Raimi is the only guy I can think of who was held up in Nolan-like regard. Well, up until summer 07...

[Parker Wayne]

Raimi is the only guy I can think of who was held up in Nolan-like regard. Well, up until summer 07...

There was a lot of hidden hatred for Raimi by fanboys until summer 07. :woot:

[Doctor Jones]

Then they had the stones to come out and post what they could never say. Cowards.

[roach]

it will be funny to see when Nolan's popularity with the fanbois falls

[JAK®]

it will be funny to see when Nolan's popularity with the fanbois falls
If the 3rd movie curse is true then it will happen in a couple of years.

[Mario_Galaxy]

There was a lot of hidden hatred for Raimi by fanboys until summer 07. :woot:
And I can promise the same will happen Nolan if TDKR sucks. All the haters will come out of the woodworks. Seriously, God help Nolan if he messes up.

[MOVIELORD101]

And I can promise the same will happen Nolan if TDKR sucks. All the haters will come out of the woodworks. Seriously, God help Nolan if he messes up.

He won't mess up, trust me. This isn't like X3 where Tom Rothman got greedy and deliberately had it made without Bryan Synder. Besides, when has Nolan EVER royaly screwed up badly? Not once, as far as I know. And, no, Insomnia doesn't count.

[JAK®]

Nobody thought Raimi was going to mess up either.

[TheComicbookKid]

The fact almost no one expects him to be able to top TDK is in his favor. He just needs to do better than BB probably.

[JAK®]

The fact almost no one expects him to be able to top TDK is in his favor. He just needs to do better than BB probably.
You'd think this was the case, but watch when the movie comes out and all the people come out of the woodwork to bash it if it isn't as good. It's the way things work. You think a consensus has been reached, but then they appear.

[redhawk23]

I love Raimi's earlier films but IMHO his overall body of work is simply not the quality of Nolans, even if TDKR doesnt live up to expecations, (and I seriously doubt it being as much of a percieved misstep as Spiderman 3 was), I really don't think there will be as much of a backlash of Nolan in general. Theres enough people that love his entire filmography even if they were hooked in by his Batfilms. I never got the sense from Spiderman fans that they were in love with Evil Dead, whereas I've seen a lot of batfans that swear by memento, the prestige and inception.


Anyways, I dig Snyder's films. I used to really dislike Dawn of the Dead but even that has grown on me over the years. I'm looking forward to Suckerpunch immensely.

[Parker Wayne]

They'll be a backlash if TDKR ends up not doing well critically. You have some people who dislike Nolan's Batman films but a many more will come out of the shadows if TDKR ends up being a bust.

[hammerhedd11]

He won't mess up, trust me. This isn't like X3 where Tom Rothman got greedy and deliberately had it made without Bryan Synder. Besides, when has Nolan EVER royaly screwed up badly? Not once, as far as I know. And, no, Insomnia doesn't count.

Wow, people consider Insomnia a screw up? Most directors would love to screw up that "badly".

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Insomina was not a great movie. It wasn't terrible or anything but it was far from great.

[roach]

If TDKR doesnt do near TDK then Nolan's stock with the fanbois will go down....I've seen it happen

[Parker Wayne]

Insomina was not a great movie. It wasn't terrible or anything but it was far from great.

I agree. Insomnia was the only Nolan film I didn't really like.

[Obi-Ron]

This thread needs a lot more talk of hot chicks with swords and ammo.

[Doctor Jones]

Screw that, I think we should talk about more putting Rick Jones in The Avengers.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Man those chicks are really, really hot.

Was that convincing?

[Travesty]

Insomina was not a great movie. It wasn't terrible or anything but it was far from great.I agree with Insomnia, but I really think Following is a pretty bad movie. It starts off good, with a nice premise, but it just gets extremely stale and boring.

Following-Didn't like it
Memento-Loved it
Insomnia-Meh
Batman Begins-Loved it
The Prestige-It's good, but not great
TDK-Didn't really like it.
Inception-Loved it

[ALP]

Sigh, Snyder and Raimi are completely different filmmakers than Nolan. It's like comparing Robert Rodriguez to Danny Boyle. Is it no longer okay to have a little variety? Everything must be visually realistic and gritty or it's shunned as no good?

:facepalm:

[Doctor Jones]

I hear Christopher Nolan is a man of true grit.

[Parker Wayne]

I hear Christopher Nolan is a man of true grit.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/cybersipey/avatars/animated-gifs-3-01.gif

[hammerhedd11]

Well that's pretty depressing. I think Insomnia is one of Nolan's best. Maybe not enough anti gravity fight scenes.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

EDIT: F**king double posts!

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^Yep, thats why 2 of my top 3 movies feature anti gravity scenes. Winter's Bone had the best action scenes of the year and the CGI was flawless and The Social Network, what can I say? Those action scenes make Inceptions look terrible. :rolleyes:

I never cared for Insomina and I'm not going to start now just because Nolan is popular. It was an okay 7 out of 10 movie and nothing more...to me.

[louiebling$]

I hear Christopher Nolan is a man of true grit.
:lmao:
:hehe:

[hammerhedd11]

^Yep, thats why 2 of my top 3 movies feature anti gravity scenes. Winter's Bone had the best action scenes of the year and the CGI was flawless and The Social Network, what can I say? Those action scenes make Inceptions look terrible. :rolleyes:

I never cared for Insomina and I'm not going to start now just because Nolan is popular. It was an okay 7 out of 10 movie and nothing more...to me.

I was kidding. Sorry if I came off as a d**k. I'm just surprised so many people find this movie to be meh. I guess what I'm used to seeing on other boards (not from anybody on here) is most people don't like it because it doesn't have a trippy high concept plot so most people seem to get mad when it's nothing more than a simple thriller (plotwise at least.) I didn't mean for my comment to really insult any of you, and I respect all of your opinions as you seem to at least enjoy it less for actual critical reasons. I guess I'm just used to the "WTH this is boring" from most boards.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I was kidding. Sorry if I came off as a d**k. I'm just surprised so many people find this movie to be meh. I guess what I'm used to seeing on other boards (not from anybody on here) is most people don't like it because it doesn't have a trippy high concept plot so most people seem to get mad when it's nothing more than a simple thriller (plotwise at least.) I didn't mean for my comment to really insult any of you, and I respect all of your opinions as you seem to at least enjoy it less for actual critical reasons. I guess I'm just used to the "WTH this is boring" from most boards.Water under the bridge because it is very annoying when I have to constantly read how overrated and boring an actual well scripted and directed movie is while people on these type of boards constantly praise junk because "it wasn't trying to be serious or great, it was just trying to be fun."

I mean man do I understand your frustations about that. Thus is the price I pay for visiting nerd websites. And don't go easy on Hype, there are plenty of people on here who only love movies with bad acting and shinny CGI. That may sound snooty to some people but it's true. I love fun CGI-fests too but they aren't the only game in town and most of them are medicore to terrible films. I'm hoping that Suckerpunch lands on the "fun but doesn't suck" side of the wall.

[Excelsior.]

:awesome: Its my evil twin brother bashing Batman Begins in the Nolan boards. I am neutral. Fanboys and haters annoy me equally. The notion of defending Nolan without being a fanboy must be foreign to you.

[JAK®]

Its my evil twin brother bashing Batman Begins in the Nolan boards. I am neutral. Fanboys and haters annoy me equally. The notion of defending Nolan without being a fanboy must be foreign to you.
I don't think you're a fanboy, I just find humour in deconstructing people's statements.

[Monsieur Xavier]

Maybe a bit pricy but good nevertheless.
Amber is my favorite among the three girls.

http://www.lapinourose.com/content/pdtimg_998321b.jpg


Source of the picture (http://www.lapinourose.com/mag/fr/product_view.php?id=2561105&pdtimg_id=998321)

[PyroChamber]

I was wondering how come Amber didn't seem to have a weapon in all of the promo pics, I guess this answer the question.

[Killer Clown]

New banner

Hi-Res
http://i.imgur.com/ypbDo.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/16Xle.jpg

[roach]

new wall paper on my comp

[Lunar_Wolf]

Sweet looking banner!

[Figs]

Nice!

[rashad]

Amazing banner!

[Crockett]

Cool banner.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I like it.

[XxDelta09xX]

That banner is Awesome!

[TheComicbookKid]

That does look pretty sweet.

[Nightmare]

nice!

[jmc]

This film is looking more and more absurd.

[GhostPoet]

This film is looking more and more absurd.

I know!!!

Isn't it amazing!?!?!?!?! :woot:

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Awesome banner... I hope we get some awesome s*** like that as posters.

[xwolverine2]

lol i dont think they are going for 'realistic'

and i think you missed the point the movie is presenting

[TheComicbookKid]

I’m not trying to come across as sexist, but this is a fact.



LMAO. You might not be trying but you're dong a dang good job of being one.


Why would you hope for it not to be a success? Why would that bother you? There's no gun pointed at your head forcing you to watch some "girl power" movie.

[JAK®]

This movie has got to be a complete joke.

Hate to say this, but the general audience prefers seeing men in action than women in action.

Let we men handle the action, women are better off as damsels in distress, wall flowers, side kicks or part of an emsemble team.


I’m not trying to come across as sexist, but this is a fact.

As much as people are going to have a hard time trying to understand the whole concept of the film, they’re going to have an even harder time trying to believe that a group of teenage girls (most of them look thin and frail, and we even have a Disney girl) actually capable of fending for themselves and performing all those stunts and actions as seen in the trailer……

You must be kidding me.
It looks more believable and realistic to have a man displaying swordplay and firing missiles, piloting
an aircraft than a woman performing the same stunts.

Sorry, the general audience is not going to buy it. Seeing a group of teenage girls especially one dressed in Japanese school girl uniform performing all these near impossible stunts and actions in the trailer is completely….laughable


Not to mention, such female driven action chick flicks normally tends to carry strong underlying messages of feminism or simply “we hate men, we are better than men…..blah blah blah

I don’t know what Synder is thinking when he is making this, maybe he is just thinking along with his penis while making Sucker Punch
I wouldn’t mind one or two females in this movie but to have the movie mostly made up of females when the genre is action….is just plain stupid

This could either be a huge hit or a huge flop.
If this movie is a hit, then so be it. But I do wish it will bomb.

As many people have already mentioned, this movie looks more like style over substance


As for those of you defending this movie, please don’t kid yourself. You know, I know, We know and everybody knows why there are still certain people intending to see this movie.
They just want to see hot girls in skimpy outfits. It’s not like they really want to see a bunch of teen girls in action or piloting an aircraft.

I really hate these kind of female empowered movies. Please for the last time, action are for the big boys.

Men will always be physically stronger than women. This is a fact that will never change
Your opinion is wrong.

[Project862006]

yeah i see 20 foot tall samurai's with machine guns all the time

obviously going the realistic route

[Spider-Who?]

This movie has got to be a complete joke.

Hate to say this, but the general audience prefers seeing men in action than women in action.

Let we men handle the action, women are better off as damsels in distress, wall flowers, side kicks or part of an emsemble team.


I’m not trying to come across as sexist, but this is a fact.

As much as people are going to have a hard time trying to understand the whole concept of the film, they’re going to have an even harder time trying to believe that a group of teenage girls (most of them look thin and frail, and we even have a Disney girl) actually capable of fending for themselves and performing all those stunts and actions as seen in the trailer……

You must be kidding me.
It looks more believable and realistic to have a man displaying swordplay and firing missiles, piloting
an aircraft than a woman performing the same stunts.

Sorry, the general audience is not going to buy it. Seeing a group of teenage girls especially one dressed in Japanese school girl uniform performing all these near impossible stunts and actions in the trailer is completely….laughable


Not to mention, such female driven action chick flicks normally tends to carry strong underlying messages of feminism or simply “we hate men, we are better than men…..blah blah blah

I don’t know what Synder is thinking when he is making this, maybe he is just thinking along with his penis while making Sucker Punch
I wouldn’t mind one or two females in this movie but to have the movie mostly made up of females when the genre is action….is just plain stupid

This could either be a huge hit or a huge flop.
If this movie is a hit, then so be it. But I do wish it will bomb.

As many people have already mentioned, this movie looks more like style over substance


As for those of you defending this movie, please don’t kid yourself. You know, I know, We know and everybody knows why there are still certain people intending to see this movie.
They just want to see hot girls in skimpy outfits. It’s not like they really want to see a bunch of teen girls in action or piloting an aircraft.

I really hate these kind of female empowered movies. Please for the last time, action are for the big boys.

Men will always be physically stronger than women. This is a fact that will never change

funny that you are complain about this (see bold text), because your post is nothing but "i hate women, men are better....blah blah blah"

Strength is one of the least necessarily aspects to action movies. This is no longer the 80s. Action stars are not huge, steroid chugging mountains of testosterone any more. Just because on average, a man is physically stronger than a woman has no bearing on who can or can't be in an action movie.

In terms of realism, by your definition, women are incapable of being in the army, in the police department, fire department, etc...but check out these numbers:

over 20% of women make up military personnel
over 12% of the US's police force is comprised of women

and these numbers are only growing.

to say that action movies are for men only is a completely ridiculous, pedantic, and extremely sexist and outdated view, and speaks volumes about how you perceive women in general, outside of a simple genre of film.

No one is going to have a "hard time" accepting these women in this action movie because the vast majority of the population has grown past your neolithic views, and this will certainly not be the first females to star in action movies.


They just want to see hot girls in skimpy outfits. It’s not like they really want to see a bunch of teen girls in action or piloting an aircraft.

while i agree that most males here are down for seeing hot girls in skimpy outfits (as any straight man would); it only adds to the excitement that these "hot girls in skimpy outfits" are fighting and "piloting aircraft". There is little cooler in cinema than hot women who can kick ass.

It looks more believable and realistic to have a man displaying swordplay and firing missiles, piloting an aircraft than a woman performing the same stunts.

Never mind the fact this is movie is a complete fantasy, again, look at the numbers i posted above. That's real life: women in Iraq, fighting terrorists, women rushing into burning buildings, women flying F-16s...all of these real life instances are fake...I totally see your point. :whatever:


Personally, while I respect most opinions, I find you to be an incredibly small minded and misogynistic individual. I weep for the women that are in your life (if any at all).

[Parker Wayne]

Some crap about no one interested in seeing hot women and it not being realistic

WrjwaqZfjIY

McAeQiLmEYU

Go away troll.

[JP]

Wow, so CoreyIAN is a sexist pig. Who knew?

[Lunar_Wolf]

This movie has got to be a complete joke.

Hate to say this, but the general audience prefers seeing men in action than women in action.

Let we men handle the action, women are better off as damsels in distress, wall flowers, side kicks or part of an emsemble team.


I’m not trying to come across as sexist, but this is a fact.

As much as people are going to have a hard time trying to understand the whole concept of the film, they’re going to have an even harder time trying to believe that a group of teenage girls (most of them look thin and frail, and we even have a Disney girl) actually capable of fending for themselves and performing all those stunts and actions as seen in the trailer……

You must be kidding me.
It looks more believable and realistic to have a man displaying swordplay and firing missiles, piloting
an aircraft than a woman performing the same stunts.

Sorry, the general audience is not going to buy it. Seeing a group of teenage girls especially one dressed in Japanese school girl uniform performing all these near impossible stunts and actions in the trailer is completely….laughable


Not to mention, such female driven action chick flicks normally tends to carry strong underlying messages of feminism or simply “we hate men, we are better than men…..blah blah blah

I don’t know what Synder is thinking when he is making this, maybe he is just thinking along with his penis while making Sucker Punch
I wouldn’t mind one or two females in this movie but to have the movie mostly made up of females when the genre is action….is just plain stupid

This could either be a huge hit or a huge flop.
If this movie is a hit, then so be it. But I do wish it will bomb.

As many people have already mentioned, this movie looks more like style over substance


As for those of you defending this movie, please don’t kid yourself. You know, I know, We know and everybody knows why there are still certain people intending to see this movie.
They just want to see hot girls in skimpy outfits. It’s not like they really want to see a bunch of teen girls in action or piloting an aircraft.

I really hate these kind of female empowered movies. Please for the last time, action are for the big boys.

Men will always be physically stronger than women. This is a fact that will never change

Your sir, are an idiot and I've never called someone that on this forum before.

Sit your ass down and watch Kill Bill, Charlie's Angles, Kick-Ass, ALIEN, Jackie Brown and Terminator 2.

[Spider-Who?]

Your sir, are an idiot and I've never called someone that on this forum before.

Sit your ass down and watch Kill Bill, Charlie's Angles, Kick-Ass, ALIEN, Jackie Brown and Terminator 2.

well, lets not get crazy - those CA movies sucked.

[dark_b]

but they kicked ass

[Figs]

I don’t know what Synder is thinking when he is making this, maybe he is just thinking along with his penis while making Sucker Punch

That's the only thing I agree with in your post...and that's not necessarily a bad thing for Snyder seeing how the movie is turning out. :awesome:

[Lunar_Wolf]

Never seen the Angel movies, but they drew numbers.

[S.A.A.D.]

Your sir, are an idiot and I've never called someone that on this forum before.

Sit your ass down and watch Kill Bill, Charlie's Angles, Kick-Ass, ALIEN, Jackie Brown and Terminator 2.

:applaud

[S.A.A.D.]

So what if Snyder use his wang when it came to this movie? He clearly did something right.

[S.A.A.D.]

well, lets not get crazy - those CA movies sucked.

Agreed.

[Thebumwhowalks]

well, lets not get crazy - those CA movies sucked.

I really enjoyed the first one when I saw it at the cinema, it was fun, if a little derivative and obvious with the tunes set to action etc.

and i don't recall what that big bolded guy's name is, but i think he has a point.....joke!...do i even need to say that? lol, and do i even need to say that is one of the most insane posts i have read on a forum?
anyway, he is obviously just looking to get a reaction and he is getting one.
and i bet there are plenty of women out there who could kick his ass.

edit: oh, and i really hope Snyder does really well with his first movie based on original material, I bet he does.

[Batman713]

This movie has got to be a complete joke.

Hate to say this, but the general audience prefers seeing men in action than women in action.

Let we men handle the action, women are better off as damsels in distress, wall flowers, side kicks or part of an emsemble team.


I’m not trying to come across as sexist, but this is a fact.

As much as people are going to have a hard time trying to understand the whole concept of the film, they’re going to have an even harder time trying to believe that a group of teenage girls (most of them look thin and frail, and we even have a Disney girl) actually capable of fending for themselves and performing all those stunts and actions as seen in the trailer……

You must be kidding me.
It looks more believable and realistic to have a man displaying swordplay and firing missiles, piloting
an aircraft than a woman performing the same stunts.

Sorry, the general audience is not going to buy it. Seeing a group of teenage girls especially one dressed in Japanese school girl uniform performing all these near impossible stunts and actions in the trailer is completely….laughable


Not to mention, such female driven action chick flicks normally tends to carry strong underlying messages of feminism or simply “we hate men, we are better than men…..blah blah blah

I don’t know what Synder is thinking when he is making this, maybe he is just thinking along with his penis while making Sucker Punch
I wouldn’t mind one or two females in this movie but to have the movie mostly made up of females when the genre is action….is just plain stupid

This could either be a huge hit or a huge flop.
If this movie is a hit, then so be it. But I do wish it will bomb.

As many people have already mentioned, this movie looks more like style over substance


As for those of you defending this movie, please don’t kid yourself. You know, I know, We know and everybody knows why there are still certain people intending to see this movie.
They just want to see hot girls in skimpy outfits. It’s not like they really want to see a bunch of teen girls in action or piloting an aircraft.

I really hate these kind of female empowered movies. Please for the last time, action are for the big boys.

Men will always be physically stronger than women. This is a fact that will never change

Go back to your southern redneck hick town you inbred fool.

[Obi-Ron]

Go back to your southern redneck hick town you inbred fool.

Please don't insult inbreds like that.

[steintym]

Ahhhhhahahahahaha ... I just read one of the dumbest posts ever on this board.

CoreyIAN - Thanks for the laugh. You made my afternoon a little more entertaining.

[SatEL]

*Notices trend of insulting CoreyIAN* (Wants to get in on the latest it thing) Yeah CoreyIAN you........you hick you.

Ok guys one guy made an idiotic comment on the internet *Gasp* I know it has never happened before right? anyway that Sucker Punch.

[Octoberist]

Tell CoryIan that the most Kick-ass character in Kick-Ass wasn't the title character or male..it was..... Hitgirl.

[Parker Wayne]

I'm actually looking forward to the film. I'm wondering what Snyder can do with an original film, and seeing as this will be his first, I think's it's going to say a lot about his directing ability.

[Parker Wayne]

Tell CoryIan that the most Kick-ass character in Kick-Ass wasn't the title character or male..it was..... Hitgirl.

I don't he's gonna watch Your Highness either. Natalie Portman kicking ass is too much for him bear.

[JAK®]

I'm actually looking forward to the film. I'm wondering what Snyder can do with an original film, and seeing as this will be his first, I think's it's going to say a lot about his directing ability.
I doubt people's opinion of him will change after this. In fact I think Superman is what is going to affect his reputation the most around here.

[Parker Wayne]

I didn't say anything about opinion. I'm just saying that this film will be a good indicator on how well he can tell a story without an aid of a source.

[PyroChamber]

On the subject of that poster, here's one of the other post he made on this thread...

I'm a gay guy so this does absolutely nothing for me.

Would have been half excited if they throw in a bunch of cute hot guys or maybe stick to the original cast of Amanda Seyfried,Emma Stone....

but no, they have to cast that annoying nude photo scandal Vanessa Hudgens.....

anyways, the premise sounds cheesy and stupid, just a poor excuse to see girls in scantily clad outfits,

The whole trailer looks like an extended music video.

hopefully this bombs and flop like Catwoman , Elektra, Scott Pilgrim vs the World

[roach]

This movie has got to be a complete joke.

Hate to say this, but the general audience prefers seeing men in action than women in action.

Let we men handle the action, women are better off as damsels in distress, wall flowers, side kicks or part of an emsemble team.


I’m not trying to come across as sexist, but this is a fact.

As much as people are going to have a hard time trying to understand the whole concept of the film, they’re going to have an even harder time trying to believe that a group of teenage girls (most of them look thin and frail, and we even have a Disney girl) actually capable of fending for themselves and performing all those stunts and actions as seen in the trailer……

You must be kidding me.
It looks more believable and realistic to have a man displaying swordplay and firing missiles, piloting
an aircraft than a woman performing the same stunts.

Sorry, the general audience is not going to buy it. Seeing a group of teenage girls especially one dressed in Japanese school girl uniform performing all these near impossible stunts and actions in the trailer is completely….laughable


Not to mention, such female driven action chick flicks normally tends to carry strong underlying messages of feminism or simply “we hate men, we are better than men…..blah blah blah

I don’t know what Synder is thinking when he is making this, maybe he is just thinking along with his penis while making Sucker Punch
I wouldn’t mind one or two females in this movie but to have the movie mostly made up of females when the genre is action….is just plain stupid

This could either be a huge hit or a huge flop.
If this movie is a hit, then so be it. But I do wish it will bomb.

As many people have already mentioned, this movie looks more like style over substance


As for those of you defending this movie, please don’t kid yourself. You know, I know, We know and everybody knows why there are still certain people intending to see this movie.
They just want to see hot girls in skimpy outfits. It’s not like they really want to see a bunch of teen girls in action or piloting an aircraft.

I really hate these kind of female empowered movies. Please for the last time, action are for the big boys.

Men will always be physically stronger than women. This is a fact that will never change

what the...hell...wait a minute...are you serious...WTF...are we being punked?

[craigdbfan]

Why does he want it to bomb. lol

Did Zack Snyder and the cast of this movie inflict harm onto him? Sure seems that way.

Funny how he is blaming Zack for thinking with his penis when he says in that other post that he wished more cute/hot guys were in it.

What a load of hypocrisy.

[roach]

Why does he want it to bomb. lol

Did Zack Snyder and the cast of this movie inflict harm onto him? Sure seems that way.

Funny how he is blaming Zack for thinking with his penis when he says in that other post that he wished more cute/hot guys were in it.

What a load of hypocrisy.

I guess he didnt get enough "hot dudes" from Twilight

[Majik1387]

On the subject of that poster, here's one of the other post he made on this thread...
I remember that post and this was my response to it

As a gay guy, this movie looks amazing to me. Great young talent, beautiful visuals, action scenes, musical numbers, and an actual original story.
I don't see this bombing at all.
:awesome::hrt:

[craigdbfan]

Great response. :applaud

[Majik1387]

:yay:

[CGHulk]

This movie has got to be a complete joke.

Hate to say this, but the general audience prefers seeing men in action than women in action.

Let we men handle the action, women are better off as damsels in distress, wall flowers, side kicks or part of an emsemble team.


I’m not trying to come across as sexist, but this is a fact.

As much as people are going to have a hard time trying to understand the whole concept of the film, they’re going to have an even harder time trying to believe that a group of teenage girls (most of them look thin and frail, and we even have a Disney girl) actually capable of fending for themselves and performing all those stunts and actions as seen in the trailer……

You must be kidding me.
It looks more believable and realistic to have a man displaying swordplay and firing missiles, piloting
an aircraft than a woman performing the same stunts.

Sorry, the general audience is not going to buy it. Seeing a group of teenage girls especially one dressed in Japanese school girl uniform performing all these near impossible stunts and actions in the trailer is completely….laughable


Not to mention, such female driven action chick flicks normally tends to carry strong underlying messages of feminism or simply “we hate men, we are better than men…..blah blah blah

I don’t know what Synder is thinking when he is making this, maybe he is just thinking along with his penis while making Sucker Punch
I wouldn’t mind one or two females in this movie but to have the movie mostly made up of females when the genre is action….is just plain stupid

This could either be a huge hit or a huge flop.
If this movie is a hit, then so be it. But I do wish it will bomb.

As many people have already mentioned, this movie looks more like style over substance


As for those of you defending this movie, please don’t kid yourself. You know, I know, We know and everybody knows why there are still certain people intending to see this movie.
They just want to see hot girls in skimpy outfits. It’s not like they really want to see a bunch of teen girls in action or piloting an aircraft.



I really hate these kind of female empowered movies. Please for the last time, action are for the big boys.

Men will always be physically stronger than women. This is a fact that will never change
:doh:

[baerrtt]

His post is clearly a satire of sexist fanboys (and some Hollywood execs) when it comes to female oriented action.........right?:oldrazz:

[Project862006]

http://l.yimg.com/k/im_sigg2h8kFfbOFZdlp1EJV2Sc5g---y660-x648-q75-n0/omg/us/img/ff/e4/7515_13594748277.jpg

[jmc]

I still have no idea what to make of this film.

[Nightmare]

What is the lead girl's real name? She's smokin.

[Parker Wayne]

http://l.yimg.com/k/im_sigg2h8kFfbOFZdlp1EJV2Sc5g---y660-x648-q75-n0/omg/us/img/ff/e4/7515_13594748277.jpg

That's a great poster! :up:

[Obi-Ron]

I still have no idea what to make of this film.

Well I could make a hat....or a brooch...or a pteradactyl...

[A Necessary Evil]

What is the lead girl's real name? She's smokin.

Emily Browning. :hrt::hrt:


http://l.yimg.com/k/im_sigg2h8kFfbOFZdlp1EJV2Sc5g---y660-x648-q75-n0/omg/us/img/ff/e4/7515_13594748277.jpg

:up:

[Obi-Ron]

Emily Browning. :hrt::hrt:


When she first showed onscreen in Lemony Snicket I thought, "Woah! There's one to keep an eye on when she gets older!"

Time has proven me right. :yellow:

[A Necessary Evil]

When she first showed onscreen in Lemony Snicket I thought, "Woah! There's one to keep an eye on when she gets older!"

Time has proven me right. :yellow:

This^

I saw her on screen...been in love ever since. Which is totally cool, because she's older than me, so it isn't weird. :o :woot:

[dark_b]

her lips were made for ...................

[A Necessary Evil]

When she first showed onscreen in Lemony Snicket I thought, "Woah! There's one to keep an eye on when she gets older!"

Time has proven me right. :yellow:

This^

I saw her on screen...been in love ever since. Which is totally cool, because she's older than me, so it isn't weird. :o :woot:

[Hurm...]

I like that little bunny thing on the machine lol.

[Tron Bonne]

I still have no idea what to make of this film.

From the trailer, footage and posters I'm making out a slightly (note: only slightly) more serious Scott Pilgrim-ish film (to mean a film that's style is it's substance, kinda, with a fast pace) with Synder's trademark art direction and the romance part being replaced with more explosions and shooting.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

http://l.yimg.com/k/im_sigg2h8kFfbOFZdlp1EJV2Sc5g---y660-x648-q75-n0/omg/us/img/ff/e4/7515_13594748277.jpg

What a kickass poster... and man, Babydoll is hot.

I'm expecting a s***load of hot blondes as Babydoll this Halloween.

[Crockett]

Nice poster.

[A Necessary Evil]

What a kickass poster... and man, Babydoll is hot.

I'm expecting a s***load of hot blondes as Babydoll this Halloween.

Bad thing? I think NOT! :awesome:

[Spider-Who?]

What a kickass poster... and man, Babydoll is hot.

I'm expecting a s***load of hot blondes as Babydoll this Halloween.

i usually can't stand when i go to a halloween party and 2/3 of the costumes there are based on whatever hit movie was out at that time. But with this...I doubt I'll be complaining much.

[Majik1387]

What if the girls are fat? :o

[rashad]

Excellent poster!

[rashad]

Excellent poster!

[CGHulk]

What a kickass poster... and man, Babydoll is hot.

I'm expecting a s***load of hot blondes as Babydoll this Halloween.

Oh yeah! :word:

[Parker Wayne]

What a kickass poster... and man, Babydoll is hot.

I'm expecting a s***load of hot blondes as Babydoll this Halloween.

I love you for putting that image in my head, especially considering that I'm in college and will probably be in a frat by Halloween. :yay:

What if the girls are fat? :o

I hate you for putting that image in my head. :o:csad:

[Majik1387]

I hate you for putting that image in my head. :o:csad:
Be happy I didn't fatify Browning in photoshop. :o:cwink::csad:

[jmc]

Whilst I'm not sure about the film I will thank Snyder for creating what's gonna be some very popular cosplays this year.

[Majik1387]

They are action heroines in their dreams/imaginations, the trailer and plot synopsis makes it clear. The general audience won't have a hard time accepting and believing them in their roles.

[A Necessary Evil]

But I still stand by my case that most of these girls are kinda wrong for their parts especially Vanessa Hudgens and Jamie Chung, Emily Browning- they don't look strong or intimidating to me and thus, people may not take this movie seriously at all.


Nor did Chloe Moretz. Size....isn't everything.

[Figs]

What if the girls are fat? :o

Then you better drink twice as much that night.

[Project862006]

or zoe saldana that chick is as thin as as a rail

size dont matter

[Octoberist]

so pouty those lips!

[rashad]

Larger version

http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ020B440C1.jpg

[XxDelta09xX]

^Awesome poster!

[Aesop Rocks]

This movie has got to be a complete joke.

Hate to say this, but the general audience prefers seeing men in action than women in action.

Let we men handle the action, women are better off as damsels in distress, wall flowers, side kicks or part of an emsemble team.


I’m not trying to come across as sexist, but this is a fact.

As much as people are going to have a hard time trying to understand the whole concept of the film, they’re going to have an even harder time trying to believe that a group of teenage girls (most of them look thin and frail, and we even have a Disney girl) actually capable of fending for themselves and performing all those stunts and actions as seen in the trailer……

You must be kidding me.
It looks more believable and realistic to have a man displaying swordplay and firing missiles, piloting
an aircraft than a woman performing the same stunts.

Sorry, the general audience is not going to buy it. Seeing a group of teenage girls especially one dressed in Japanese school girl uniform performing all these near impossible stunts and actions in the trailer is completely….laughable


Not to mention, such female driven action chick flicks normally tends to carry strong underlying messages of feminism or simply “we hate men, we are better than men…..blah blah blah

I don’t know what Synder is thinking when he is making this, maybe he is just thinking along with his penis while making Sucker Punch
I wouldn’t mind one or two females in this movie but to have the movie mostly made up of females when the genre is action….is just plain stupid

This could either be a huge hit or a huge flop.
If this movie is a hit, then so be it. But I do wish it will bomb.

As many people have already mentioned, this movie looks more like style over substance


As for those of you defending this movie, please don’t kid yourself. You know, I know, We know and everybody knows why there are still certain people intending to see this movie.
They just want to see hot girls in skimpy outfits. It’s not like they really want to see a bunch of teen girls in action or piloting an aircraft.

I really hate these kind of female empowered movies. Please for the last time, action are for the big boys.

Men will always be physically stronger than women. This is a fact that will never change

You make me hate myself for having the same name as you. Never, ever post on these messages boards again, you have just officially became the least liked member, Congratulations.

[Parker Wayne]

^ And that's saying something consider some of the other members of the hype.

[kane9321]

Well I could make a hat....or a brooch...or a pteradactyl...

lmao..lmao

[ComicChick]

Go back to your southern redneck hick town you inbred fool.

thats not necessary

[Passdom]

Larger version

http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/ZZ020B440C1.jpg

God damn, Emily Browning is :up:

[batman11]

Size....isn't everything.

Keep telling yourself that dear. :o

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Hi-Res Banner

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If these are any clue, I'd say we're in for some epic Superman posters in the future.

[CGHulk]

God damn, Emily Browning is :up:
I just looked her up on imdb, she was that little girl in Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events! Jena Malone was that little girl from Contact! :wow:

[Eklypze]

HAHAHA! Yea, and if you watch the pilot for Californication you get to see the little girl from Mr. Nanny's ta tas!! True story

[Majik1387]

HAHAHA! Yea, and if you watch the pilot for Californication you get to see the little girl from Mr. Nanny's ta tas!! True story
Not the only nor first time she's shown her breasts...:huh:

[A Necessary Evil]

Keep telling yourself that dear. :o

Hit girl could take on batman.:o
:oldrazz:

[Spideyfan93]

Is this like Alice and Wonderland on extreme steroids and an abundance of strong heroines?

[Eklypze]

Oh Im sorry Majik, I must've forgot to stalk the young actress obsessively lmao What else has she even been in?? Besides I was just crackin a joke. Why so serious????

[Project862006]

not ashamed to say it

watching this for giant machine gun wielding samurai:ninja:

[louiebling$]

Please don't insult inbreds like that.
I'm sorry to adding to this CC but this literally made me :lmao:

[louiebling$]

This movie looks so ambitious it excites me :awesome:

[Eklypze]

Giant robot machine gun wielding samurai

[Parker Wayne]

not ashamed to say it

watching this for giant machine gun wielding samurai:ninja:

:funny:

[Majik1387]

The giant machine gun wielding samurai was totally in my dream last night. :oldrazz:

[Aesop Rocks]

I had a dream I fell asleep in drama class last night.

SPOILER ALERT: I never took a drama class in high school.

[HighFivingMF]

i had a dream i fell asleep in drama class last night.

Spoiler alert: I never took a drama class in high school.
brrrrrrm!

[ironwez20]

Man im just loving that poster. I love that damn robot in the background but i always thought they were more girls ? O well i guess.

[Killer Clown]

http://i.imgur.com/G4ZLl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bHYr8.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/efsis.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DR7K9.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ujOQ6.jpg

MSN (http://movies.msn.com/paralleluniverse/sucker-punch-posters/photo-gallery/stills/?icid=MOVIES2&GT1=MOVIES2&photoidx=1)

[Killer Clown]

Double post:csad:

[craigdbfan]

Now these are some good posters.

Kudos to WB/Legendary along with Snyder for trying to keep posters good looking. The pretty girls help.

[rashad]

Those are badass. WB has amazing poster art for their films.

[Motown Marvel]

uuuugggghhhhh they look like video games!

[S.A.A.D.]

My God,those posters are awesome. Most of them and March 25th can't come fast enough.

[S.A.A.D.]

That Nazi Zombie sort of looks like the main villain from the Harry Potter movies. More thought could have been put into it's appearance. Lameish.

[Passdom]

If I was 13 again I'd have those plastered all over my walls.

[S.A.A.D.]

I just realized that the robots chill out on the train.

[Project862006]

That Nazi Zombie sort of looks like the main villain from the Harry Potter movies. More thought could have been put into it's appearance. Lameish.
:huh:not he does'nt LOL

[ALP]

Love the posters.

This looks like a modern hip version of Sky Captain.

[Majik1387]

I'm loving it more and more.:up:

[kane9321]

Love the posters.

This looks like a modern hip version of Sky Captain.

yeah..but sky captain sucked:cmad:

[kane9321]

Love the posters.

This looks like a modern hip version of Sky Captain.

yeah..but sky captain sucked:cmad:

[Crockett]

The new character banners are really nice, so pumped to see this movie.

[Gunga Diner]

Does anybody else get the impression that this is Zack Snyder's answer to Scott Pilgrim? I'm sure that wasn't his intention, but I don't know if anybody knows what to make of the marketing. It throws a billion things at you and is has the same kind of exxagerated reality to it. (Eerily, it also shares the same initials.)

[KenK]

Does anybody else get the impression that this is Zack Snyder's answer to Scott Pilgrim? I'm sure that wasn't his intention, but I don't know if anybody knows what to make of the marketing. It throws a billion things at you and is has the same kind of exxagerated reality to it. (Eerily, it also shares the same initials.)

No. there's a narrative throughline you can follow from 300 to Watchmen, and even Legend of the Guardians, pretty much leading him to what we see in Sucker Punch. And I feel like the context for the visuals is completely different.

[GhostPoet]

yeah..but sky captain sucked:cmad:

You take that back!!! :cmad:

[Gunga Diner]

No. there's a narrative throughline you can follow from 300 to Watchmen, and even Legend of the Guardians, pretty much leading him to what we see in Sucker Punch. And I feel like the context for the visuals is completely different.
I agree that the content and visuals are completely different, but that kind of anything-goes type of absurd over-the-top fantasy with samurais and robots and WWII soldiers and whatever Snyder can think of reminds me of the approach that Scott Pilgrim took. I'm sure the films are completely different otherwise, and I'm not accusing him of ripping off (or even being inspired by) Scott Pilgrim. But the approach feels similar.

Additionally, I feel like the general audiences will have a similar reaction to it.

[Kane52630]

Additionally, I feel like the general audiences will have a similar reaction to it.

Are you saying people are not going to see it? :oldrazz::o

[GhostPoet]

I agree that the content and visuals are completely different, but that kind of anything-goes type of absurd over-the-top fantasy with samurais and robots and WWII soldiers and whatever Snyder can think of reminds me of the approach that Scott Pilgrim took. I'm sure the films are completely different otherwise, and I'm not accusing him of ripping off (or even being inspired by) Scott Pilgrim. But the approach feels similar.

Additionally, I feel like the general audiences will have a similar reaction to it.

I think you are looking too deep into it. I think it's more simple than that. In America...the general audience can't open their mind enough to samurairobots and over the top fantasy. :) It's just too different for them.

[Gunga Diner]

Are you saying people are not going to see it? :oldrazz::o
I think it's certainly a hard sell. Does it look cool? Sure. Are the girls hot? Absolutely. But I think it's also really out-there and bizarre to most of the GA. I think if people were confused during the Watchmen trailer, they'll certainly be confused about this.

[GhostPoet]

the reason Hollywood dumbs down things and makes things generic is because they KNOW the general audience won't be drawn into anything too "out there" or different. Sad but true. It's why films like this are gems...because sadly, we don't get to see too much original content nowadays. It just doesn't sell.

[Kane52630]

I think it's certainly a hard sell. Does it look cool? Sure. Are the girls hot? Absolutely. But I think it's also really out-there and bizarre to most of the GA. I think if people were confused during the Watchmen trailer, they'll certainly be confused about this.
(I was making fun of Scott Pilgrim :oldrazz: )
I don't think its that hard of a sell

hot chicks, check.
dragons, check.
samurais, check.
kicking ass, check.
Burlesque'ish, check.
a wonderful put together trailer, check.

[Gunga Diner]

(I was making fun of Scott Pilgrim :oldrazz: )
I don't think its that hard of a sell

hot chicks, check.
dragons, check.
samurais, check.
kicking ass, check.
Burlesque'ish, check.
a wonderful put together trailer, check.

I agree completely. And I'm not making a statement about how the film will be. I'm looking forward to Snyder doing something original. I think the movie looks visually stunning and shamelessly absurd. I'm just saying that with something like Sucker Punch that mixes all of those things that you mentioned with little to no explanation outside of "It's a dream," you run the risk of the audience being weirded out.

[KenK]

I agree completely. And I'm not making a statement about how the film will be. I'm looking forward to Snyder doing something original. I think the movie looks visually stunning and shamelessly absurd. I'm just saying that with something like Sucker Punch that mixes all of those things that you mentioned with little to no explanation outside of "It's a dream," you run the risk of the audience being weirded out.

There are too many women in it they'd like to see naked (not to say any of them will be in the movie, but in genera), and some they HAVE seen naked, so they'll support anything they're in, for it to weird out that many people. :woot:

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Damn, this movie has the greatest posters.

Hot girls, samurai demons, Nazi zombies, orcs, castles, futuristic cities, giant robots... where has this been all my life?

[DorkyFresh]

Those posters look spectacular, as do all the posters for Snyder's films...



...GOD I CAN'T WAiT TO SEE WHAT HE'S GONNA DO WITH SUPERMAN!!!

[S.A.A.D.]

:huh:not he does'nt LOL

Well I think he doe's. Me,myself,and I. :oldrazz:

[craigdbfan]

Those are badass. WB has amazing poster art for their films.

They still respect the art form and try keeping the integrity of posters despite the actual movies quality. Good on them.

[S.A.A.D.]

the reason Hollywood dumbs down things and makes things generic is because they KNOW the general audience won't be drawn into anything too "out there" or different. Sad but true. It's why films like this are gems...because sadly, we don't get to see too much original content nowadays. It just doesn't sell.

Yup,it's nothing but a safe choice.

[Mace Bloodstone]

the reason Hollywood dumbs down things and makes things generic is because they KNOW the general audience won't be drawn into anything too "out there" or different. Sad but true. It's why films like this are gems...because sadly, we don't get to see too much original content nowadays. It just doesn't sell.

That is a good way to put it.

[Lone]

This movie will be a massive hit in Asia.

not ashamed to say it

watching this for giant machine gun wielding samurai:ninja:

No person should feel ashamed to say that. Ever.

[xwolverine2]

I think it's certainly a hard sell. Does it look cool? Sure. Are the girls hot? Absolutely. But I think it's also really out-there and bizarre to most of the GA. I think if people were confused during the Watchmen trailer, they'll certainly be confused about this.

:huh: solddd!!

[Spider-Who?]

I. WANT. ONE.

http://www.figures.com/forums/attachments/news/11625d1285176234-sucker-punch-baby-doll-statue-1suckerpunchbabydoll.jpg

[GhostPoet]

I'll take one if it's lifesize! For...er..uh...display.

[Spider-Who?]

its 1/4 scale. Big enough.

[Crockett]

Whoa, that's a pretty nice figure.

[Spider-Who?]

supposedly, there's only 500 being made. they're priced at $250. I'm trying to pre order one, but seems like they've been bought up every where.

[S.A.A.D.]

I. WANT. ONE.

http://www.figures.com/forums/attachments/news/11625d1285176234-sucker-punch-baby-doll-statue-1suckerpunchbabydoll.jpg

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hrt:

[chelo248]

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/4235/58885144.jpg

http://www.empireonline.com/magazine/

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Man, I want a hi res of that.

[Nightmare]

That'd be a great wallpaper

[craigdbfan]

its 1/4 scale. Big enough.

lol

[PyroChamber]

That'd be a great wallpaperI second that!

On a sidenote, I notice this thread is close to reaching 1,000 post which means that "you know who" is gonna come in here and close down shop.

[Obi-Ron]

:argh:

[GoblinWhirlwind]

9 posts left.

IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN

[Monsieur Xavier]

supposedly, there's only 500 being made. they're priced at $250. I'm trying to pre order one, but seems like they've been bought up every where.

Hi,

You can still pre order it from Ebay ( check the WW option, there are two french shop offering it ) or Amazon ( http://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Giant-Studios-Sucker-Punch/dp/B0043YI5TW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=toys-and-games&qid=1296759063&sr=8-1 ).

Even Gentle Giant official site : http://www.gentlegiantltd.com/product_p/80073.htm

[Killer Clown]

Exclusive Images From 'Sucker Punch: The Art of the Film'
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[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^all looks fantastic, should start getting some reviews for this soon shouldnt we?

[Hurm...]

I expect a score similar to Watchmen and 300 on RT. Not that it matters much to me, I can't wait to check this out.

[Octoberist]

I've always admired Zack's artistic sensibilities. I can't wait for Superman..

[Parker Wayne]

I can't help but think that the narrative could be a mess. I think it will be around 300 and watchmen on the RT scale but I'll be there opening day too.

And 3 more posts to go!

[craigdbfan]

Is that Thread manager I smell growing ever closer?

[Project862006]

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/Star_Trek_-_In_Before_the_Lock.gif

[craigdbfan]

I'll be the guy to do it.

I SUMMON THREAD MANAGER!

[Majik1387]

I'm ready for the new thread.:o

[DarkSovereignty]

1002...f*** you thread manager

[Thread Manager]

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