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jaydawg
01-18-2007, 10:41 PM
Yeah, Sentry does alot more than whine. He broods too.

At least Cap has actual Superhuman abilities (weak as they are). Black Widow is just a spy. A really good spy, but still.

And its probably true that I dont give enough credit. But then again, Busieks Avengers run really put me off the character. There wasnt a single panel where she wasnt doing something alcohol related. All she ever did was ***** about not being an alcohol too.

Still..... this roster sucks in terms of characters.

supermarvelman
01-18-2007, 10:48 PM
I think the "characters" are good.

Colossal Spoons
01-18-2007, 10:52 PM
I wonder if this thread is less negative and annoying than the NA one?

PWN3R
01-18-2007, 10:53 PM
Fanboy betching is good for the soul.

Colossal Spoons
01-18-2007, 10:54 PM
Fanboy betching makes me wanna hurt things.

supermarvelman
01-18-2007, 11:05 PM
This would be my Mighty Avengers.

Doc Samson
IronMan
Ms. Marvel
Sentry
She-Hulk
Wonder Man
YellowJacket

LouFerignoDemon
01-19-2007, 10:25 AM
Yeah, Sentry does alot more than whine. He broods too.

At least Cap has actual Superhuman abilities (weak as they are). Black Widow is just a spy. A really good spy, but still.

And its probably true that I dont give enough credit. But then again, Busieks Avengers run really put me off the character. There wasnt a single panel where she wasnt doing something alcohol related. All she ever did was ***** about not being an alcohol too.

Still..... this roster sucks in terms of characters.

I take you love the work that is Bendis? Seeing how the least amount of work done with the Sentry has been by him, totally different from the mass majority of the work done with the Sentry, but everybody does Bendis' Sentry anyway?

And the Widow isn't exactly your standard trained human herself.

And Carol, you should really read more about her.

Union Jack
01-19-2007, 10:30 AM
i like the sentry..he has loads of potential...i wish they would get round to fleshing him out properly.

and as far as the mighty avenger line up is i don't mind it as such...but black widow shouldn't be on there.

i agree in that doc samson wouldve been a better addition.

Eros
01-19-2007, 10:34 AM
This would be my Mighty Avengers.

Doc Samson
IronMan
Ms. Marvel
Sentry
She-Hulk
Wonder Man
YellowJacket


:up: Nice.

Darthphere
01-19-2007, 11:00 AM
Yeah, Sentry does alot more than whine. He broods too.

At least Cap has actual Superhuman abilities (weak as they are). Black Widow is just a spy. A really good spy, but still.

And its probably true that I dont give enough credit. But then again, Busieks Avengers run really put me off the character. There wasnt a single panel where she wasnt doing something alcohol related. All she ever did was ***** about not being an alcohol too.

Still..... this roster sucks in terms of characters.

Busiek's run on Avengers was like what 10 years ago?

Red
01-20-2007, 01:44 PM
Hmm...

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g319/Red_X123/MIGHTAVN003cov.jpg

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 01:58 PM
:up: Nice.

Thank you.

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 02:02 PM
Hmm...

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g319/Red_X123/MIGHTAVN003cov.jpg


Hopefully YellowJacket will join Mighty once they take on She-Ultron. Or he will just be there for that story arc, but whether he is officially on the team or not, I hope he has a reoccuring role like Ms. Marvel did in New Avengers.

Ares
Black Widow
IronMan
Ms. Marvel
Sentry
Tigra
Wasp
Wonder Man
YellowJacket

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 02:07 PM
This would be my Mighty Avengers.

Doc Samson
IronMan
Ms. Marvel
Sentry
She-Hulk
Wonder Man
YellowJacket

How would this team do against the Big 7 of the JLA

Superman
Batman
Wonder WomaAn
Flash
Green Lantern
Aquaman
Martian Manhunter

Kitsune
01-20-2007, 02:08 PM
Hopefully YellowJacket will join Mighty once they take on She-Ultron.

I kinda like the name Ultramp :D

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 02:14 PM
Thats a good one.

Ultramp - Shultram

Red
01-20-2007, 02:17 PM
This would be my Mighty Avengers.

Doc Samson
IronMan
Ms. Marvel
Sentry
She-Hulk
Wonder Man
YellowJacket

How would this team do against the Big 7 of the JLA

Superman
Batman
Wonder WomaAn
Flash
Green Lantern
Aquaman
Martian Manhunter

You've said this 3 times now. No one cared then, no one does now.

If someone doesn't reply to your post thats not an excuse to repost the same thing over and over again :o

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 02:24 PM
I didn't post that 3 times, post 88 and post 96 are not the same and plus dont tell me what I can and cant post. You dont want me to post something, well if you dont like what I post dont reply to it Betch.

Red
01-20-2007, 02:25 PM
You are indeed a little man.

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 02:27 PM
In you opinion I am. To me you are a little *****.

jaydawg
01-20-2007, 02:27 PM
Busiek's run on Avengers was like what 10 years ago?

More or less. I dont really go out of my way to read Carol stuff. If shes a guest or something, thats just about my amount of exposure to the character.

Darthphere
01-20-2007, 05:31 PM
So you're argument has no basis, since you admittedly haven't read her most recent stuff. Thanks.

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 05:36 PM
I really hope Her and Wonder Man end up as a couple one day.

Jaydawg is your avy from arrested development?

Union Jack
01-20-2007, 05:47 PM
i agree i like the friendship between her simon and hank mcCoy.

the mini of wonderman is fun so far!

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 06:18 PM
Yea I like it, I am a fan of cartoony art but I wish they had a different artist for Wonder Man's Mini, its not to bad though.

What I wanna know is whats up with Wonder Man's flight powers? In 98% of comics he can fly om his own, but in the Mighty Avengers preview Sentry is carrying him, but then in other preview art of MA's, it shows him flying on his own. Maybe just some kind or power glitch.

jaydawg
01-20-2007, 06:18 PM
So you're argument has no basis, since you admittedly haven't read her most recent stuff. Thanks.

Maybe for Carol, but the point still stands about the rest of the characters.

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 06:19 PM
What you dont like the characters in Mighty Avengers?

hippy fascist
01-20-2007, 06:27 PM
Yea I like it, I am a fan of cartoony art but I wish they had a different artist for Wonder Man's Mini, its not to bad though.

What I wanna know is whats up with Wonder Man's flight powers? In 98% of comics he can fly om his own, but in the Mighty Avengers preview Sentry is carrying him, but then in other preview art of MA's, it shows him flying on his own. Maybe just some kind or power glitch.

Maybe that's the big reveal, sentry and wonderman are lovers?

They might both be flying but just really into holding hands...:o

jaydawg
01-20-2007, 06:33 PM
What you dont like the characters in Mighty Avengers?

Personally, I find the roster made up of alot of dull characters.

Darthphere
01-20-2007, 06:34 PM
Personally, I find the roster made up of alot of dull characters.

The only character I would consider dull on that roster is Sentry, but thats because Bendis cant write him for ****.

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 06:35 PM
:D That would be funny, but I would be pissed since I want Simon and Carol to become a couple. It would be okay if Simon was bisexual, same with Carol, they could be hardcore swingers. I mean how many bisexual characters are their really, theres gay and lesbian but no bisexuals.

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 06:36 PM
The only character I would consider dull on that roster is Sentry, but thats because Bendis cant write him for ****.

Yea let Jenkins co-write Sentry's parts.

Eros
01-20-2007, 06:45 PM
:D That would be funny, but I would be pissed since I want Simon and Carol to become a couple. It would be okay if Simon was bisexual, same with Carol, they could be hardcore swingers. I mean how many bisexual characters are their really, theres gay and lesbian but no bisexuals.


:o You lost some points their man.

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 06:47 PM
I wouldn't really want him to be bi, I was kidding. But seriously with all these gay characters now-a-days, what about bisexuals, they do exist.:p

Colossal Spoons
01-20-2007, 07:05 PM
Wonderman is quite possibly the most boring, shallow character in the MU.

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 07:08 PM
He is shallow, but he isnt boring. But I have always thought that if I ever had a chance to amalgalize him with somebody from DC it would be Guy Gardener, they seem like they fit and they both like cool jackets.

Colossal Spoons
01-20-2007, 07:11 PM
Wonderman is mediocrity personified.

PhotoJones
01-20-2007, 07:14 PM
Wonderman is mediocrity personified.

aww man...that's not nice.

i like wonder man. especially when he's apired with beast (as others have said 100 times before).

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 07:16 PM
well maybe thats why they're starting to use him more now, so they can develop him better.

Wonder Man + Guy Gardener(Warrior or Green Lantern) =

Wonder Warrior
Lantern Man
Green Wonder

Colossal Spoons
01-20-2007, 07:16 PM
aww man...that's not nice.

i like wonder man. especially when he's apired with beast (as others have said 100 times before).

Tell me what purpose he serves on the team with Sentry there? :p

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 07:17 PM
aww man...that's not nice.

i like wonder man. especially when he's apired with beast (as others have said 100 times before).

Wonder Man, Beast, Ms. Marvel something about that team. Beast seems to fit with them as much as he does with the X-Men.

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 07:17 PM
Tell me what purpose he serves on the team with Sentry there? :p


Another heavy hitter, who is more mentally stable.

Eros
01-20-2007, 07:18 PM
agreed^

PhotoJones
01-20-2007, 07:18 PM
Tell me what purpose he serves on the team with Sentry there? :p

charisma?

Colossal Spoons
01-20-2007, 07:22 PM
charisma?

You need to do stand-up :D

Colossal Spoons
01-20-2007, 07:24 PM
Another heavy hitter, who is more mentally stable.

They're not even on the same level.

Ridiculous heavy hitter = Sentry
Backup heavy hitter in case Bob loses his ****in marbles = Ms. Marvel/Tony
4th string strongman for everybody to laugh at = Wonderman

PhotoJones
01-20-2007, 07:25 PM
They're not even on the same level.

Ridiculous heavy hitter = Sentry
Backup heavy hitter in case Bob loses his ****in marbles = Ms. Marvel/Tony
4th string strongman for everybody to laugh at = Wonderman

now you're just hurting my feelings on purpose.

Colossal Spoons
01-20-2007, 07:26 PM
now you're just hurting my feelings on purpose.


Photojones2 > Simon

PhotoJones
01-20-2007, 07:27 PM
Photojones2 > Simon

thank you.

Colossal Spoons
01-20-2007, 07:29 PM
No prob. You wanna be on the Mighty Avengers? :D

PhotoJones
01-20-2007, 07:30 PM
No prob. You wanna be on the Mighty Avengers? :D

i'd rather be on new avengers, thank you.

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 07:30 PM
They're not even on the same level.

Ridiculous heavy hitter = Sentry
Backup heavy hitter in case Bob loses his ****in marbles = Ms. Marvel/Tony
4th string strongman for everybody to laugh at = Wonderman


You are ****ing crazy if you dont think Wonder Man is a heavy hitter, yes compared to Sentry he isnt, but compared to Sentry practically nobody is a heavy hitter, look at Hulk. Somin is probably a heavier hitter than both IronMan and Ms. Marvel.

Also he is very charismatic.

Colossal Spoons
01-20-2007, 07:32 PM
You are ****ing crazy if you dont think Wonder Man is a heavy hitter, yes compared to Sentry he isnt, but compared to Sentry practically nobody is a heavy hitter, look at Hulk.

I never said he wasn't a heavy hitter :huh: He's just a mediocre one.

i'd rather be on new avengers, thank you.

Smart man :up:

Colossal Spoons
01-20-2007, 07:33 PM
I'm just saying, this team has an abundance of "superstrong flyers" Wonderman's spot could have gone to somebody with a different set of powers.

PhotoJones
01-20-2007, 07:34 PM
I'm just saying, this team has an abundance of "superstrong flyers" Wonderman's spot could have gone to somebody with a different set of powers.

i hear ya on that.

i'm just saying any wonder man is better than no wonder man.

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 07:34 PM
I never said he wasn't a heavy hitter :huh: He's just a mediocre one.

So what does that mean?...

Develope the character, he has the potential to be a very powerful and interesting character.

Ms. Marvel considered herself mediocre, now she is doing something about it. Could be the same thing with Simon.

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 07:36 PM
I'm just saying, this team has an abundance of "superstrong flyers" Wonderman's spot could have gone to somebody with a different set of powers.


Where would that leave Simon? In limbo or just a guest in Ms. Marvels comic, he deserves more than that. Until recently he had been on the shelf for a while.

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 07:36 PM
i hear ya on that.

i'm just saying any wonder man is better than no wonder man.

Exactly

Colossal Spoons
01-20-2007, 07:37 PM
i hear ya on that.

i'm just saying any wonder man is better than no wonder man.

I guess until we see the events of Civil War 7, can we really say anything. Maybe Tony has limited people to chose from for this new team :huh: But I saw a lot of better choices just on the splash page at the end of Civil War 6

Colossal Spoons
01-20-2007, 07:38 PM
So what does that mean?...

Develope the character, he has the potential to be a very powerful and interesting character.

Ms. Marvel considered herself mediocre, now she is doing something about it. Could be the same thing with Simon.

Ms. Marvel has Binary on her resume. Simon has been mediocre since I can remember.


Where would that leave Simon? In limbo or just a guest in Ms. Marvels comic, he deserves more than that. Until recently he had been on the shelf for a while.

Develop him in his solo book that just came out.

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 07:40 PM
Like who? 7-9 heroes, since it looks as if YellowJacket and Tigra might be on the team.

Wonder Man is one of the Trainers for the registration, I'm sure Tony has much faith in him.

PhotoJones
01-20-2007, 07:41 PM
I guess until we see the events of Civil War 7, can we really say anything. Maybe Tony has limited people to chose from for this new team :huh: But I saw a lot of better choices just on the splash page at the end of Civil War 6

to be fair, something may have happened to simon. doesn't seem like he's capable of flight in mighty avengers.

Colossal Spoons
01-20-2007, 07:44 PM
to be fair, something may have happened to simon. doesn't seem like he's capable of flight in mighty avengers.

If that's the case then Doc Samson > Simon :p

Colossal Spoons
01-20-2007, 07:45 PM
Like who? 7-9 heroes, since it looks as if YellowJacket and Tigra might be on the team.

Wonder Man is one of the Trainers for the registration, I'm sure Tony has much faith in him.

Jesus, how many people are on this team?

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 07:45 PM
Ms. Marvel has Binary on her resume. Simon has been mediocre since I can remember.




Develop him in his solo book that just came out.

Since he mostly been mediocre, does that mean you leave him that way, **** that.

It's only a mini, I dont think a ongoing solo would last long for him at this moment. The best way to develop him is on a team with othrer characters that know him.

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 07:46 PM
Jesus, how many people are on this team?

Ares
Black Widow
IronMan
Ms. Marvel
Sentry
Wasp
Wonder Man

Possibly YellowJacket and Tigra, or at least reoccuring appearances.

Colossal Spoons
01-20-2007, 07:47 PM
Since he mostly been mediocre, does that mean you leave him that way, **** that.

It's only a mini, I dont think a ongoing solo would last long for him at this moment. The best way to develop him is on a team with othrer characters that know him.

He could just hitch onto Ms Marvel and he a permanent sidekick in her book. I'd be down for that as I read MM anyway :up:

Since he mostly been mediocre, does that mean you leave him that way, **** that.

It's only a mini, I dont think a ongoing solo would last long for him at this moment. The best way to develop him is on a team with othrer characters that know him.

Not only is he mediocre, but I simply don't care about him. That might have something to do with the fact that I couldn't care less if Mikhail Rasputin came back and sucked him into a portal forever.

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 07:48 PM
If that's the case then Doc Samson > Simon :p

And Doc Samson isnt mediocre?:whatever:

Colossal Spoons
01-20-2007, 07:49 PM
And Doc Samson isnt mediocre?:whatever:

I didn't say that either. What is this; "put words in mouth" day? Doc Samson is mediocre and interesting. Simon is just mediocre :up:



Don't even get me started on Tigra....Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 07:52 PM
He could just hitch onto Ms Marvel and he a permanent sidekick in her book. I'd be down for that as I read MM anyway :up:

Not only is he mediocre, but I simply don't care about him. That might have something to do with the fact that I couldn't care less if Mikhail Rasputin came back and sucked him into a portal forever.

Yea that would work, but than it would become a Ms. Marvel/WonderMan book, which would take away from Ms. Marvel, not much though. That is a good idea, but I want Wonder Man on a team.

**** that whole Mikhail portal ****.:cmad:

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 07:55 PM
I didn't say that either. What is this; "put words in mouth" day? Doc Samson is mediocre and interesting. Simon is just mediocre :up:
Don't even get me started on Tigra....Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

It all comes down to opinion, yes Doc is interesting but I think Wonder Man is interesting. I do admit though Doc would bring a good flavor to the team, like how he recently helped She-Hulk take down Abomination using psycology.

Yes Tigra is very Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, but how will that ever change if you dont use her?

Colossal Spoons
01-20-2007, 07:59 PM
Yea that would work, but than it would become a Ms. Marvel/WonderMan book, which would take away from Ms. Marvel, not much though. That is a good idea, but I want Wonder Man on a team.

**** that whole Mikhail portal ****.:cmad:

Haha, Mikhail would do wonders for Simon's character.

It all comes down to opinion, yes Doc is interesting but I think Wonder Man is interesting. I do admit though Doc would bring a good flavor to the team, like how he recently helped She-Hulk take down Abomination using psycology.

Yes Tigra is very Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, but how will that ever change if you dont use her?

Yeah, I just don't like Simon but maybe during MA; I'll grow to tolerate him.

And man, I'm not even willing to give Tigra a chance. The only way to improver her character would be to kill her IMO. :o

supermarvelman
01-20-2007, 08:00 PM
Your probably right about Tigra.

The Punisher
01-20-2007, 08:30 PM
Hmm...

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g319/Red_X123/MIGHTAVN003cov.jpg

Sentry dammit. I really hope he gets more involvment now that he's with this team.

deemar325
01-20-2007, 11:27 PM
That Tigra got some junk in the trunk.


I love Cho.

Colossal Spoons
01-20-2007, 11:35 PM
I was waitin for somebody to say it so I could co-sign. :up:


That Sentry looks like Will Ferrel though lol.

Frico
01-20-2007, 11:43 PM
That Tigra got some junk in the trunk.


I love Cho.
I was waitin for somebody to say it so I could co-sign. :up:

Co-sign. :up:

deemar325
01-20-2007, 11:46 PM
I was thinking Harrison Ford.

supermarvelman
01-21-2007, 02:11 AM
Neither.

Red
01-22-2007, 02:30 PM
From all this promo art I get the impression Iron Man will be leading the team and not Ms. Marvel :csad:

hippy fascist
01-22-2007, 02:35 PM
From all this promo art I get the impression Iron Man will be leading the team and not Ms. Marvel :csad:

don't you mean cap? :csad:

Darthphere
01-22-2007, 02:36 PM
Shut the **** up.

Colossal Spoons
01-22-2007, 03:03 PM
Neither.

Actually a combination of both :up:

Xofenroht
01-23-2007, 11:18 AM
Shut the **** up.

Stupid Amazon...

supermarvelman
01-23-2007, 03:47 PM
I think the Amazon pic might have been fake, the shield didnt look like it was really part of the pic. I've also seen that same exact shlied on something else.

Xofenroht
01-23-2007, 04:40 PM
Still stupid...messing with our emotions like that.

lowly marvelite
02-19-2007, 09:06 PM
Definitely buying it. Although, its still not clear to me whose on the New Avengers and whose with the Mighty Avengers???

hippie_hunter
02-19-2007, 09:37 PM
Definitely buying it. Although, its still not clear to me whose on the New Avengers and whose with the Mighty Avengers???

New Avengers
Luke Cage
Dr. Strange
Spider-Man
Wolverine
Spider-Woman
Iron Fist
Echo
Ronin

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/394px-Na28cover_solicit_lo.jpg

Mighty Avengers
Iron Man
Ms. Marvel
Wonder Man
Wasp
Black Widow
Sentry
Ares
Yellowjacket?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/37/Mightyavengers.jpg

GOODT!MES
02-19-2007, 10:18 PM
I'm stunned by how many people flat out hate new Avengers. This book is amazing- it takes all of the New Avengers greatness that centered around Spider-Man, Spider- Woman, and Luke Cage, blows it up into it's own title, then throws in Iron Fist, Dr. Strange and a ninja.

How do you not find that awesome? It's a solid, high-quality title.

That said, I'll be picking up Mighty Avengers as well. But only for the Ultron arc.

hippie_hunter
02-19-2007, 11:52 PM
I'm stunned by how many people flat out hate new Avengers. This book is amazing- it takes all of the New Avengers greatness that centered around Spider-Man, Spider- Woman, and Luke Cage, blows it up into it's own title, then throws in Iron Fist, Dr. Strange and a ninja.

How do you not find that awesome? It's a solid, high-quality title.

That said, I'll be picking up Mighty Avengers as well. But only for the Ultron arc.

1. Bendis writes a great Luke Cage. If Luke Cage gets an ongoing, I hope he's the writer. But Cage is not an Avenger, he's a Hero for Hire. Same with Iron Fist. You know, Bendis would also be awesome on the Heroes for Hire book.

2. Spider-Woman is just lame and there shouldn't be two Spider-People on the Avengers team. It just sounds repetitive.

3. The Avengers shouldn't be having a hard time with ninjas. They shouldn't be a street level team. They're supposed to be Earth's Mightiest Heroes not the Heroes for Hire Part Deux.

4. Wolverine shouldn't be on the Avengers. He's supposed to be a loner and an X-Men. He's just far too overused.

5. The Mighty Avengers roster is far superior than the New Avengers roster. I might actually pick this book up.

6. New Avengers is not amazing. The book sucks plain and simple.

Kevin
02-20-2007, 12:27 AM
Not for me. I liked it since the first issue. I'll be giving Mighty A try.

The Cajun
02-20-2007, 05:52 AM
Some of you need to chill out regarding New Avengers.

All you seem to do is moan about the line-up, direction and power level of the team.

Okay, I'm going to let you all in on a little secret now...

THERE ARE TWO AVENGERS BOOKS COMING OUT!!!!1111!!!

Yes I know SHOCK HORROR!

Now Bendis, obviously in his 'stupidity', felt that it would be pointless having two identical Avengers books out on the shelves.

So he made the Mighty Avengers - a more traditional Avengers book with old school Avengers foes. Then New Avengers - a Avengers title that is obviously a little different to what you normaly get and something he wants to take in an different direction to Mighty.

So for those of you that are so offended by New Avengers you have Mighty Avengers to keep you happy.

Seriously, I'm glad I'm not as die hard a fan as some people on here seeing as being a die hard fan seems to mean you spend most of your time *****ing about books you will go out and keep buying anyway.

*COUGHwolverine originsCOUGH*

People here will ***** about writers being repetitive but then also ***** when they try and do something new.

hippy fascist
02-20-2007, 07:09 AM
Some of you need to chill out regarding New Avengers.

All you seem to do is moan about the line-up, direction and power level of the team.

Okay, I'm going to let you all in on a little secret now...

THERE ARE TWO AVENGERS BOOKS COMING OUT!!!!1111!!!

Yes I know SHOCK HORROR!

Now Bendis, obviously in his 'stupidity', felt that it would be pointless having two identical Avengers books out on the shelves.

So he made the Mighty Avengers - a more traditional Avengers book with old school Avengers foes. Then New Avengers - a Avengers title that is obviously a little different to what you normaly get and something he wants to take in an different direction to Mighty.

So for those of you that are so offended by New Avengers you have Mighty Avengers to keep you happy.

Seriously, I'm glad I'm not as die hard a fan as some people on here seeing as being a die hard fan seems to mean you spend most of your time *****ing about books you will go out and keep buying anyway.

*COUGHwolverine originsCOUGH*

People here will ***** about writers being repetitive but then also ***** when they try and do something new.

2 AVENGERS BOOKS WRITTEN BY BENDIS :cmad:

Which means we're going to get the same awkward teenager crap, gross mischaracterisation and massive amounts of decompression. FAN-****ING-TASTIC!

You're point might have some validity if there were two different writers but there aren't so it doesn't :o

Kevin
02-20-2007, 07:12 AM
I'll be honest, reading issue 27 of NA, the banter, i was actually saying "O my god, would you just shut up already??" to the comic. It can get overdone. Otherwise, I like NA a lot. Always have.

Not Jake
02-20-2007, 08:52 AM
2. Spider-Woman is just lame and there shouldn't be two Spider-People on the Avengers team. It just sounds repetitive.

Yeah when it comes to the Avengers, don't double-up on your bug superheroes.


Oh, wait. Yellowjacket and Wasp.

Kitsune
02-20-2007, 09:05 AM
I'll be honest, reading issue 27 of NA, the banter, i was actually saying "O my god, would you just shut up already??" to the comic. It can get overdone. Otherwise, I like NA a lot. Always have.
The didn't get Spider-Man right. It felt like Peter was too long winded in his jokes and it was a chore rather than a joy to read him.

Kevin
02-20-2007, 03:08 PM
The didn't get Spider-Man right. It felt like Peter was too long winded in his jokes and it was a chore rather than a joy to read him.
It wasn't only spider-man. It was him, cage, and rand. It's like, "You are fighting, not exactly for your life, but seriously, shut up."

GOODT!MES
02-20-2007, 03:25 PM
I'll give you that, but i'm still optimistic about the future. Bendis always seems to nail banter in Ultimate Spider-man, and he can write an awesome and hilarious fight scene (like the one in NA where Cage gets knocked off the building in Tokyo).

Heroes for Hire was great, and I s*** a chicken when I found out the new Heores for Hire lineup, but it's time we realize that Marvel doesn't want to put out a classic Heroes for Hire book. Cage and Rand on one team together is about the closest we'll get for a while. And why can't they be Avengers? Heroes for Hire was all about helping people, they just needed some cash as well. It worked out perfectly.

Spider-woman is a complex character for the sake of being complex, and her plight is a chore to read about, but I like her personality.

And yes, I have no idea why Wolverine is there, but he's a fun character to read so I'll take it.

Memphis Slim
03-10-2007, 06:55 PM
Okay........I know there's a "Mighty" vs "New" thread on the board. However, that's basically all it is. Let's talk characterization and plot lines on this one......I saw some intersting ones, to say the least.

1. Ms. Marvel's allegience is not as strong to this "initiative" as it should be. She seemed quite put off by Stark's total disrespect for Cap by calling him "Rogers". How will this play out?

2. The simmering anger of Stark at the mention of Luke Cage and Peter's team chemistry. Stark has really fallen to the dark side of the force.

3. Stark's quick little flirtation with Carol saying how she looks better to him in black leather than Widow....not to mention him fishing for info on Carol and Simon's relationship. Anybody think Stark wants to hook up??:heart: I just don't think Carol likes what Tony has become....

4. The new helicarrier........red and gold????? Yeeeesh......:whatever:

5. Tony's analysis of Sentry was very ..........Vulcan. :dry:

6. Ultron is a woman now??????

The Punisher
03-10-2007, 07:12 PM
http://images.comicbookresources.com/previews/marvelcomics/mightyavengers/001/MIGHTAVN001028scolv2.jpg

Ares is awesome. That is all.

Memphis Slim
03-10-2007, 07:30 PM
Wolverine and Thor wrapped into one.

He cut a slightly sexual look at the Wasp don't you think??

Memphis Slim
03-10-2007, 07:34 PM
Wasp went hardcore with that head shot on the monster's ear drums!!! Is the 616 changing into the Ultimate Universe???

Janet even blurted out a "@#!**!" ...:huh: What's that all about??? :huh:

The Punisher
03-10-2007, 07:45 PM
Wolverine and Thor wrapped into one.

He cut a slightly sexual look at the Wasp don't you think??

I'd say so, I think Bendis said that one of the Mighty Avengers would hook up.

PhotoJones
03-10-2007, 07:48 PM
Wasp went hardcore with that head shot on the monster's ear drums!!! Is the 616 changing into the Ultimate Universe???

Janet even blurted out a "@#!**!" ...:huh: What's that all about??? :huh:

she's an adult, she can't use a swear word every once in awhile?

Memphis Slim
03-10-2007, 07:58 PM
she's an adult, she can't use a swear word every once in awhile?



She has never done that since she first appeared in 1962....I'd say it was a change.

The Punisher
03-10-2007, 08:00 PM
Yeah, I don't recall the last time I've seen Wasp curse.

Colossal Spoons
03-10-2007, 08:16 PM
I like the Samson tribute in that Ares picture(the jawbone) :D

Zenien
03-10-2007, 08:25 PM
It was a decent issue, though I'm not really sure how Ultron turned Iron Man into a chick and assumed control of him.

So far though, and I know that it's early, the Team just doesn't have the chemistry of the New Avengers, or the character appeal. They're all pretty much douche bags with the exception of Ms Marvel or chracters you do not feel one way or another towards. It will be interesting to see where this book goes, but I think this sort of high powered Team plays against the writters strengths (which are highlighted in the New Avengers Team).

The Punisher
03-10-2007, 08:27 PM
I liked Mighty Avengers, but it comes second to New Avengers imo.

SouLeSS
03-10-2007, 09:15 PM
It was (or at least I thought so) a very solid first issue. It introduced all the characters that are going to play the major role in the book for right now, it introduced the first major villian (two/villians?) and it was pretty action packed.

And Ares is badass. Good to see he's on a book that is going to be getting more attention than those of say...Black Panther.

The Punisher
03-10-2007, 09:21 PM
I hope in the future, Ares' involvment on the team spins out an ongoing for him.

Marcdachamp
03-10-2007, 09:28 PM
It was a decent issue, though I'm not really sure how Ultron turned Iron Man into a chick and assumed control of him.

So far though, and I know that it's early, the Team just doesn't have the chemistry of the New Avengers, or the character appeal. They're all pretty much douche bags with the exception of Ms Marvel or chracters you do not feel one way or another towards. It will be interesting to see where this book goes, but I think this sort of high powered Team plays against the writters strengths (which are highlighted in the New Avengers Team).

Actually, I'm really digging Ares. I still like New Avengers better, though.

Jbcraig
03-10-2007, 09:42 PM
I hope that the next few issues are as fun to read as this first issue was. I don't know if Bendis' use of the thought bubbles were needed though...

CaptainCanada
03-10-2007, 09:55 PM
He cut a slightly sexual look at the Wasp don't you think??
I think he looked more interested in Black Widow (or maybe both, at the same time!:cwink: )

I really enjoyed the first issue; just fun. I hope they keep this light tone, it would really set the series apart from many other titles. I have really limited knowledge of the cast apart from Iron Man and Ms. Marvel, but I really liked Ares' scenes.

The use of thought bubbles to illustrate actual thoughts, rather than narrating/describing simple actions for the "benefit" of readers, was great. Carol seems to have a bit of lingering resentment of Tony.

Red Mask
03-10-2007, 10:14 PM
Okay........I know there's a "Mighty" vs "New" thread on the board. However, that's basically all it is. Let's talk characterization and plot lines on this one......I saw some intersting ones, to say the least.

1. Ms. Marvel's allegience is not as strong to this "initiative" as it should be.

Nobody said she was his lackey. If that were true everybody who was Pro-Registration is his lackey. To learn more of her Post-Civil War role get Ms. Marvel #13.

Anyway, loved the implied stab Ares made on "Troy". That movie was terrible on so many levels.

Xofenroht
03-10-2007, 10:56 PM
I just love Ares. If you ask me, he shot a look at Widow. It's taking all my power not to talk about how similar his son's hair is with hers, but I guess my power faded. Anyway, I'm still more of a New Avengers fan. I mean...they've got frickin' SPIDER-MAN and DOC STRANGE. All Stark did was go out there and grab some people, it already sounds like he's becoming a tyrant. The New Avengers formed off a fluke. I can't wait to see how Doc Strange got mixed up in all of this.

King_Mungi
03-10-2007, 11:23 PM
Writers need to have a meeting what to do with Sentry. In his recent mini and in Silent War he has his act together, and knows what he is doing, he's a force to be reckoned with. However, Bendis writes him as stated comparable to a Young Avenger, and he keeps messing up and apoligizing. Er?

I honestly didn't think MA #1 was good, the fight was dull and why did Wonderman forget he can fly for half the issue?

Zenien
03-11-2007, 03:01 AM
I noticed that to, but I thought maybe it had something to do with his My Fair Superhero mini so I didn't comment.

Harlekin
03-11-2007, 05:50 AM
Dull issue accentuated by Bendis' complete lack of knowledge pertaining to the voices of these characters. I don't believe he got one single character completely right (except maybe Ares and nu-Iron Man). "Loser husband"? Oh, c'mon Carol.

Memphis Slim
03-11-2007, 07:02 AM
I just love Ares. If you ask me, he shot a look at Widow. It's taking all my power not to talk about how similar his son's hair is with hers, but I guess my power faded. Anyway, I'm still more of a New Avengers fan. I mean...they've got frickin' SPIDER-MAN and DOC STRANGE. All Stark did was go out there and grab some people, it already sounds like he's becoming a tyrant. The New Avengers formed off a fluke. I can't wait to see how Doc Strange got mixed up in all of this.


There aren't any characters in this book you can root for. Like someone just said...They are all douche bags. Cap got shot and died. But it didn't phase Tony at all. Heck ...do any of them care? He even disses Cap's ideal of the Avengers. Plus what's up with that scene where Stark tells Carol "we're going to have to bring them in" ? So I guess we got a showdown coming. Then Stark builds a new Heli-Carrier for himself! What a nice guy.....:dry:

New Avengers has the characters I can pull for. They are rebel resistance. Stark is the evil Empire (for Star Wars cats :cwink: ). I want to see Parker start using his science brain in that group. I'm tired of him sitting on that part of his character. The Mighty Avengers have Stark.....well Parker has got to step it up.

Memphis Slim
03-11-2007, 07:08 AM
Tony Stark :whatever:
http://starwars.mytopix.com/img/d/darth_vader-0.jpg

Red
03-11-2007, 07:11 AM
Dull issue accentuated by Bendis' complete lack of knowledge pertaining to the voices of these characters. I don't believe he got one single character completely right (except maybe Ares and nu-Iron Man). "Loser husband"? Oh, c'mon Carol.

Couldn't agree more.

Memphis Slim
03-11-2007, 07:30 AM
The mighty Avengers have all the cool tech......Quinjets etc.......

How will the New Avengers get around?? '57 Chevy?? A Hummer?? :woot:


http://www.laatuautot.com/lohjan_laatuautot/images/vaihtoautot/muut1/nzm-82.jpg

Kevin
03-11-2007, 07:39 AM
I really wanna read this book. Can't wait.

Foggy Nelson
03-11-2007, 07:45 AM
The mighty Avengers have all the cool tech......Quinjets etc.......

How will the New Avengers get around?? '57 Chevy?? A Hummer?? :woot:

Dr.Strange>>Quinjet.

The fuels less expensive.

Darthphere
03-11-2007, 10:54 AM
I liked the issue, it was pretty good, but I'm more interested in New Avengers at this point. How times change.

And are we really making an issue of Jan cursing?

GNR
03-11-2007, 11:05 AM
People seem to be loving the hell out of this.

GNR
03-11-2007, 11:06 AM
I liked the issue, it was pretty good, but I'm more interested in New Avengers at this point. How times change.


Wow,they sure do.:cwink:

PhotoJones
03-11-2007, 11:37 AM
I liked the issue, it was pretty good, but I'm more interested in New Avengers at this point. How times change.

And are we really making an issue of Jan cursing?

apparently an adult woman is not a loud to say **** during high stress times.

i'll gladly take a "****!" rather than a "golly gee wilikers!"

Foggy Nelson
03-11-2007, 11:40 AM
I like how light-hearted this book is actually, the thought bubbles add to that. Good book, characterization what a little off but it was good.

Cho's art fit the book very well.

The Cajun
03-11-2007, 11:42 AM
Was I the only one that thought the whole conversation between Tony and Carol about bringing in Black Widow really didn't make much sense?

I mean Tony's like 'I love her' then he's like 'shes alright...you look better' and it just seemed like an odd conversation that didn't really flow.

Then again most of those scenes between Tony and Carol talking about which Avengers to bring in didn't seem quite right. Sounded more like two fanboys at a convention then Iron Man and Ms Marvel.:o

Eros
03-11-2007, 11:44 AM
I like how light-hearted this book is actually, the thought bubbles add to that. Good book, characterization what a little off but it was good.

Cho's art fit the book very well.


its light-hearted because their side won the war, they are "heroes", and not on the run. Its probably a very different case in NA, which looks to have a much more darker tone.

Foggy Nelson
03-11-2007, 11:49 AM
its light-hearted because their side won the war, they are "heroes", and not on the run. Its probably a very different case in NA, which looks to have a much more darker tone.

You felt it necessary to state the obvious why? :o I like New Avengers aswell, but its nice to see a book that isn't so emo and "gritty" every once and a while.

Eros
03-11-2007, 11:55 AM
You felt it necessary to state the obvious why? :o I like New Avengers aswell, but its nice to see a book that isn't so emo and "gritty" every once and a while.

The happiness becomes alitle tainted, once you take into context how they got to this happiness, and the current state of the Marvel world. Its like some kind of near utopia, after a big flood or something.

Kaboom
03-11-2007, 11:55 AM
can somebody explain wonderman to me i thought he was dead and made up completley of ionic energy

and I like migh avengers, althought Id trade Wasp away in a second. Have never liked her.

Foggy Nelson
03-11-2007, 12:01 PM
The happiness becomes alitle tainted, once you take into context how they got to this happiness, and the current state of the Marvel world. Its like some kind of near utopia, after a big flood or something.

No it really doesn't. Why spout this stuff at me when I really do not care? :dry:. I like the book because it's light-hearted, I don't care how or why it is light-hearted.

Wonderman was dead, Scarlet Witch brought him back during Busiek's Avengers run ages ago. He's not been doing the hole ionic thing for a while though.

Wasp's just meh, she doesn't bother me though.

Kaboom
03-11-2007, 12:03 PM
over the past month ive been geting back into comics after about a ten year hiatus, so im a lil shaky on alot of stuff at this point,

Eros
03-11-2007, 12:04 PM
No it really doesn't. Why spout this stuff at me when I really do not care? :dry:. I like the book because it's light-hearted, I don't care how or why it is light-hearted.

Wonderman was dead, Scarlet Witch brought him back during Busiek's Avengers run ages ago. He's not been doing the hole ionic thing for a while though.

Wasp's just meh, she doesn't bother me though.


You asked me a question, and I beleive you qouted a post I made [in which you asked me the said question]. You approached me in the bar lady, not the other way around LOL.

Artistsean
03-11-2007, 12:06 PM
This book actually looks fun, and the art is amazing (not just the women either). And from what I heard its going to be fun stories too.
I hear the team, for whatever reason, travgels back to the 1970s. And you know who is alive back then? Captain America.

But I am a little confused about the whole Ultron thing, does that mean it was never Iron Man? Or was Iron Man warped into Ultron? And why did Ultron return as a naked woman?

If it wsn't for its connection to Civil War it would be a lot more fun, but the Civil War part adds something to it.
I am not sure about the writing though. Seems a little strange, the aside thoughts like "Um OK." and "Man!"

Foggy Nelson
03-11-2007, 12:07 PM
You asked me a question, and I beleive you qouted a post I made [in which you asked me the said question]. You approached me in the bar lady, not the other way around LOL.

No. You quoted me first for absolutely no reason but to tell me things I already knew, not that it matters. This conversation is like so.. discontinued. :whatever:

Eros
03-11-2007, 12:07 PM
No. You quoted me first for absolutely no reason but to tell me things I already knew, not that it matters. This conversation is like so.. discontinued. :whatever:


Thats nice.

Sloth7d
03-11-2007, 12:31 PM
Writers need to have a meeting what to do with Sentry. In his recent mini and in Silent War he has his act together, and knows what he is doing, he's a force to be reckoned with. However, Bendis writes him as stated comparable to a Young Avenger, and he keeps messing up and apoligizing. Er?


I agree. Bendis doesn't know the Sentrys character. To write Ironman saying"He thinks of him as a young avenger. Like a newb or something?"
Um, Bendis, you do realise that Sentrys origin is that he's been around since the beggining, don't you? Sentry is also implied to be stronger than Thor. Way stronger. He defeated a Herald in two seconds for Hypes sake. I don't think Ironman would say he's no Thor. He IS the Thor replacement. Ironman has also known him for years in continuity. So for Tony to say he thinks of him as a young avenger just seems absurd to me.

Eros
03-11-2007, 12:35 PM
I agree. Bendis doesn't know the Sentrys character. To write Ironman saying"He thinks of him as a young avenger. Like a newb or something?"
Um, Bendis, you do realise that Sentrys origin is that he's been around since the beggining, don't you? Sentry is also implied to be stronger than Thor. Way stronger. He defeated a Herald in two seconds for Hypes sake. I don't think Ironman would say he's no Thor. He IS the Thor replacement. Ironman has also known him for years in continuity. So for Tony to say he thinks of him as a young avenger just seems absurd to me.


Starks comments seemed fine to me, since Sentry is retcon character. I don't care how long starks has known sentry:whatever:, hes still some year 2000 sales gimmick to me.

Sloth7d
03-11-2007, 12:39 PM
Starks comments seemed fine to me, since Sentry is retcon character. I don't care how long starks has known sentry:whatever:, hes still some year 2000 sales gimmick to me.
Yeah, from the readers perspective. But from another characters in the comics perspective Tonys comments just sound stupid, since Sentry hs always been around to them.

Eros
03-11-2007, 12:41 PM
Yeah, from the readers perspective. But from another characters in the comics perspective Tonys comments just sound stupid, since Sentry hs always been around to them.


true.

Mr.Valentine
03-11-2007, 12:42 PM
Yeah that was stupid, Who does Maria Hill run to when Black Bolt tries to invade your country? Sentry. Not bloody Wiccan, "Young Avenger".. how stupid.

Marcdachamp
03-11-2007, 03:12 PM
I really liked Carol in this issue. She's a much more likable leader for the Registration side than Tony is.

I'm eager to see her fighting Cage. Jessica is her best friend. That's gonna be really interesting.

Darthphere
03-11-2007, 03:14 PM
She's also good friends with Jessica Drew. She has a lot of friends named Jessica.

Red
03-11-2007, 03:39 PM
You know, the only thing that saved #1 for me was Ares.

Artistsean
03-11-2007, 03:55 PM
What I liked, besides Ares, was showing that Ms. Marvel still thought of the Anti Registration Rebels as true heroes, Avengers. And that its a waste of time to hunt them down.
Sort of implies that the Pro side still thinks of the Anti side as true heroes, and not anti americans.
It also implies that there wont be an all out fight when they have to go after the New Avengers or the other rebel heroes.

PhotoJones
03-11-2007, 03:58 PM
What I liked, besides Ares, was showing that Ms. Marvel still thought of the Anti Registration Rebels as true heroes, Avengers. And that its a waste of time to hunt them down.
Sort of implies that the Pro side still thinks of the Anti side as true heroes, and not anti americans.
It also implies that there wont be an all out fight when they have to go after the New Avengers or the other rebel heroes.

well, it appears that tony's real motive for bringing in the new avengers is to get to them before the rest of shield does. i think his heart is in the right place, and he's not as big a douchbag as others would make of him.

Kitsune
03-11-2007, 04:04 PM
well, it appears that tony's real motive for bringing in the new avengers is to get to them before the rest of shield does. i think his heart is in the right place, and he's not as big a douchbag as others would make of him.

He's still acting out of anger and blaming people. He's still a pretty big douchbag. I still think he could win this years Douchie award.

PhotoJones
03-11-2007, 04:13 PM
He's still acting out of anger and blaming people. He's still a pretty big douchbag. I still think he could win this years Douchie award.

i read that exchange in MA as he was trying to protect his friends.

AndThePickles
03-11-2007, 07:22 PM
I hated the dialogue in this first issue.....especially all the thought bubbles. Got pretty annoying.

The Punisher
03-11-2007, 07:24 PM
You know, the only thing that saved #1 for me was Ares.

:up:

I look forward to more of Ares that's for sure.

ibsisomis
03-11-2007, 07:48 PM
I started to notice Tony's little "dark forray" in the ASM where his conversation with Spidey was a little cold and distant. I'm going to be glad to see him squirm when WWH comes out! Down with the Stark!

Memphis Slim
03-11-2007, 10:29 PM
Dr.Strange>>Quinjet.

The fuels less expensive.


What happens if Strange is taken out in battle?? They need some type of transport.

How 'bout this.........


http://www.gaservingamerica.org/how_work/art/craft/Turboprop.jpg:woot:

Kevin
03-12-2007, 11:07 AM
For the most part I liked this issue. I think the art was beautiful, and I can't wait to see where this goes. I am sooo happy Wasp and Wonder Man are on the team. (I really like wasp) Of course, the dialogue was classic Bendis, but that's kool.

I wonder if the thought bubbles was a One time thing. I liked them, but what if Bendis only put thm there to annoy the hell out of us? Like an inside joke. "You always complain how you want thought bubbles, words on the cover, and so forth--here you go! I'mma make you regret it, b****es!"

...I like this more than the New (new) Avengers, so far.

Artistsean
03-12-2007, 11:54 AM
I think the art is great, the words on the cover were fine, the bubbles sort of bugged me but that wasn't because of the bubbles themselves. It was because of what they said in them. Things like "Um ok." But they didn't bug me too much anyway.
I like that they are showing them to be a little more human, even Tony is tr.
I thought it was pretty good, still not sure why Tony was turned into a naked female Ultron. Seems sort of odd, but I think Mighty Avengers might be an all over the place type comic.

Memphis Slim
03-12-2007, 12:35 PM
I think the art is great, the words on the cover were fine, the bubbles sort of bugged me but that wasn't because of the bubbles themselves. It was because of what they said in them. Things like "Um ok." But they didn't bug me too much anyway.
I like that they are showing them to be a little more human, even Tony is tr.
I thought it was pretty good, still not sure why Tony was turned into a naked female Ultron. Seems sort of odd, but I think Mighty Avengers might be an all over the place type comic.


Doesn't Ultron have the ability to control machines? Since Tony "is" the armor now (i.e. the armor pours out of his body) then it stands to reason that Ulton could take control of his body. Why the female form?? I don't know.....maybe Ultron is homosexual now.....Ultrina??:whatever:

Darthphere
03-12-2007, 12:39 PM
Or maybe she's just a different Ultron, Oh my god, logic!

Memphis Slim
03-12-2007, 12:41 PM
Or maybe she's just a different Ultron, Oh my god, logic!


Do you wear a lap top on your hip or something??

Darthphere
03-12-2007, 12:42 PM
Do you wear a lap top on your hip or something??

Couldnt come up with a comeback huh? Its ok.

Darthphere
03-12-2007, 12:44 PM
Celldog is lucky though, the original Ultron design for MA was a homosexual black man with a shaved head.

Artistsean
03-12-2007, 01:36 PM
Doesn't Ultron have the ability to control machines? Since Tony "is" the armor now (i.e. the armor pours out of his body) then it stands to reason that Ulton could take control of his body. Why the female form?? I don't know.....maybe Ultron is homosexual now.....Ultrina??:whatever:

OK, thats what I was wondering, about why Tony changed.
But I am still wondering about the female form, but I am sure it has to do with the story and will be explained. It just seems like its because Frank Cho can draw women really well and is most popular for that. But I am sure there is a better reason than to have Frank Cho draw another female character. I am sure it goes with the story somehow.
I hope there is a better explaination that a new Ultron or at least explain with good reason why there is a new Ultron.

But I liked the book, Frank Cho can draw super heroes very nicely. The coloring and the ink was great too, sometimes those things done poorly can bring the comic down.
I am looking forward to seeing what happens when they go back to the 70s and run into their old selfs and a still alive (and symbol of the USA) Captain America.

Kevin
03-12-2007, 01:54 PM
...:huh: They're going to the 70's?

Memphis Slim
03-12-2007, 01:56 PM
Couldnt come up with a comeback huh? Its ok.



No. That was my comeback.....not a big deal. :dry:

TheCorpulent1
03-12-2007, 02:00 PM
I started to notice Tony's little "dark forray" in the ASM where his conversation with Spidey was a little cold and distant. I'm going to be glad to see him squirm when WWH comes out! Down with the Stark!
I noticed it in ASM when he hired the ****ing Crimson Dynamo to stage a fight that he could point to and go, "See? We totally need to register superhumans or else they'll attack when I pay--er, they'll attack willy-nilly!"

Kevin
03-12-2007, 02:07 PM
Ok, one beff with this issue. I know artists do this a lot, but it kinda annoys me when they use the same panel over and over. I mean, there were a lot of repeated panels in this one issue. It's ok, but annoying.

TheCorpulent1
03-12-2007, 02:19 PM
Think of it this way: if Cho hadn't recycled panels, the issue would've been like 2 weeks late.

Kevin
03-12-2007, 02:27 PM
I know, and for that I'm thankful, but still. BTW, When is the next issue coming out? And for that matter, when is NA 28 coming out?

Artistsean
03-12-2007, 04:14 PM
yeah, I read they are doing lots of fun stuff in the book. It said they are going back in time to the 70s, and I think other stuff like that.

Kevin
03-12-2007, 04:26 PM
Link?

Kitsune
03-12-2007, 04:41 PM
Darth Vader was cool. I was thinking more like:
http://www.worth1000.com/entries/17000/17332_w.jpg
Tony Stark^

The Punisher
03-12-2007, 04:54 PM
yeah, I read they are doing lots of fun stuff in the book. It said they are going back in time to the 70s, and I think other stuff like that.

Sounds interesting. Do you have a link to that?

TheCorpulent1
03-12-2007, 04:58 PM
They're going back in time to the '70s? That's kind of useless...

Artistsean
03-12-2007, 05:11 PM
I think it was mentioned in Wizard Magazine in part of the description of Mighty Avengers, in the article about Civil War.

Artistsean
03-12-2007, 05:12 PM
I think it was mentioned in Wizard Magazine in part of the description of Mighty Avengers, in the article about Civil War.

CaptainCanada
03-12-2007, 05:23 PM
When is the next issue coming out?
April 18th.
And for that matter, when is NA 28 coming out?
March 14th.

Kevin
03-12-2007, 05:33 PM
Thank you x 2

Varient
03-12-2007, 05:44 PM
apparently an adult woman is not a loud to say **** during high stress times.

i'll gladly take a "****!" rather than a "golly gee wilikers!"

hey HEY HEY!!!!

"Some women" can artfully pull a "golly gee wilikers!" with flair in a way that is tastefully done and is framed to recieve no comments from the peanut gallery.

Jan "Used" to be able to,.... circa 1966 or so,...............

Kevin
03-12-2007, 05:50 PM
"Focus on the monsters, you ubelievable tramp." Heh, classic.

The Punisher
03-12-2007, 05:51 PM
I think it was mentioned in Wizard Magazine in part of the description of Mighty Avengers, in the article about Civil War.

Ah, I think I know what're talking about. I'll go look for it.

TheCorpulent1
03-13-2007, 09:18 AM
"Focus on the monsters, you ubelievable tramp." Heh, classic.
Somebody actually said that in the issue?

Kevin
03-13-2007, 09:27 AM
Ms. Marvel to Wasp about Sentry.

TheCorpulent1
03-13-2007, 09:44 AM
Ah. I feel vindicated for not reading it now. Thanks.

Colossal Spoons
03-13-2007, 12:46 PM
Ms. Marvel to Wasp about Sentry.

I think Carol was talking to/about herself. It was more of a playful line.

Memphis Slim
03-13-2007, 12:47 PM
Is Jan the Lil' Kim of the Avengers now?? Hawkeye did her in the mansion while others were in the meeting room. And isn't Sentry married??

Darthphere
03-13-2007, 02:04 PM
Why is it ok for the guys to sleep around and not the women?

Memphis Slim
03-13-2007, 02:55 PM
Why is it ok for the guys to sleep around and not the women?

Did I say it was okay? Hawkeye's a whore too.... Geez Hank was in the mansion. Show some respect..........

Darthphere
03-13-2007, 02:57 PM
They weren't together at the time, its all fair game.

Memphis Slim
03-13-2007, 03:03 PM
They weren't together at the time, its all fair game.


Maybe on a "technical" level you're right. But Jan and Hank tried to make a go of it not too long before that. Remember this??

http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/2511_4.jpg

So you know Hank (His team mate and friend) would have been hurt deeply. Hank even gave Clint some of his Goliath Pym particle.

AndThePickles
03-13-2007, 03:20 PM
Ms. Marvel to Wasp about Sentry.

I think Carol was talking to/about herself. It was more of a playful line.

I got confused about who that line was directed to as well.

TheCorpulent1
03-13-2007, 03:25 PM
Hank even gave Clint some of his Goliath Pym particle.
Shyeah, and I bet Clint put those particles to good use with Jan, knowumsayin'? Haw haw haw...

I feel dirty. :(

Darthphere
03-13-2007, 03:28 PM
Shyeah, and I bet Clint put those particles to good use with Jan, knowumsayin'? Haw haw haw...

I feel dirty. :(

Hiyo!

Darthphere
03-13-2007, 03:36 PM
Maybe on a "technical" level you're right. But Jan and Hank tried to make a go of it not too long before that. Remember this??

http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/2511_4.jpg

So you know Hank (His team mate and friend) would have been hurt deeply. Hank even gave Clint some of his Goliath Pym particle.

Yes celldog, I go to scans_daily too.:whatever:

Memphis Slim
03-13-2007, 03:38 PM
Shyeah, and I bet Clint put those particles to good use with Jan, knowumsayin'? Haw haw haw...

I feel dirty. :(


:whatever:

Memphis Slim
03-13-2007, 03:40 PM
Yes celldog, I go to scans_daily too.:whatever:


Always a smart a#@ answer, huh? Oh well.........

TheCorpulent1
03-13-2007, 03:42 PM
:whatever:
Like you weren't thinking it. :o

Darthphere
03-13-2007, 04:09 PM
Always a smart a#@ answer, huh? Oh well.........

Everybody say "ass".

Kevin
03-13-2007, 06:08 PM
I got confused about who that line was directed to as well.
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7458/themightyavengers01pagebd5.th.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=themightyavengers01pagebd5.jpg)

If you ask me, if she really were saying it to herself, she would've thought it. But I could be wrong.

Artistsean
03-13-2007, 06:24 PM
I thought she was saying under her breath to Wasp. Sort of like, hey this is fun dialogue, or something.

Memphis Slim
03-14-2007, 07:19 PM
Like you weren't thinking it. :o


I wasn't. :hyper:

32CAGE
03-14-2007, 07:32 PM
Maybe on a "technical" level you're right. But Jan and Hank tried to make a go of it not too long before that. Remember this??

http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/2511_4.jpg

So you know Hank (His team mate and friend) would have been hurt deeply. Hank even gave Clint some of his Goliath Pym particle.


It's not fair game on a moral level.

Upset Spideyfan
03-14-2007, 11:16 PM
Okay I read it.

First the good.

Definitely a breath of fresh air just to see some superheroes throwing down with good old fashioned bad guys for a change. And Tony not coming off as completely evil for a change=Yay. The art was as expected great and the brawl was pretty good. Ares also established himself as a bad-ass right off the bat which was great if he's going to be the Thor/Wolverine of the group. IMO a good effort on Bendis' part in trying to get an old school Avengers feel back on the book.

Now for the bad. While I appreciate the thought bubbles making a return, Bendis was using them too literally (example: Wow. Um. He thinks that). Some of the dialogs came off pretty clunky and few were out of character. Iron Man saying that they needed Ninja's, half the time Black Widow was talking I didn't even realize it was her. Admittedly I'm not the biggest expert on him but I felt like Sentry came off a bit too childish.

Lastly, I'm wary of this female Ultron. If there's a decent excuse I'll allow it, but I think it would have been a much more badass moment if Tony had turned into regular old Ultron.

I'll give it a C+. It shows some rough spots that need to be worked out but I'll definitely stay with it for now.

Mogwai
03-15-2007, 02:31 AM
So far, Bendis has teased about a symbiote invasion, an appearance by Zeus, and the return of Doom. I'm really looking foward to see how this series plays out.

Red
03-15-2007, 03:36 PM
Preview for #3:

http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/3126/ma3pgyw4.jpg

Darthphere
03-15-2007, 03:39 PM
God, why does Sentry look like a little kid?

Mr.Valentine
03-15-2007, 03:49 PM
Because Bendis is adamant on portraying him as child-like and rookie-ish.

Red
03-15-2007, 03:55 PM
To be fair it could be worse, he looked like a woman in #1.

Artistsean
03-15-2007, 04:22 PM
Cho drew him that way, its pretty good expressions I think.

How is Sentry normally portrayed? What is his usual characterization?

Kevin
03-15-2007, 04:53 PM
Sad as it is, I rather Bendis Sentry than "Super-Sentry."

Sebastos
03-15-2007, 05:21 PM
Dammn man, I was to late to pick this up. :( I went to my shop to get the New Avengers issue and to see if I could get Mighty Avengers and it was sold out.

Red
03-15-2007, 05:24 PM
You realise Iron Fist in not in Might Avengers, right?

Sebastos
03-15-2007, 05:32 PM
You realise Iron Fist in not in Might Avengers, right?

What kind of question is that? :huh:

Sebastos
03-15-2007, 06:09 PM
Anyone know if #1 will get a reprint?

Memphis Slim
03-15-2007, 08:59 PM
Cho drew him that way, its pretty good expressions I think.

How is Sentry normally portrayed? What is his usual characterization?


Well....in the John Romita Jr. Sentry mini series he was very pragmatic, very smart, methodical........he had cloc on monitor duty while he patrolled the earth.

He wasn't anything like this Bendis version.

Mogwai
03-15-2007, 10:47 PM
That preview looks great. Looks like Sentry is going to pull a 'Superman Returns' and land that falling SHIELD ship.

K.B.
03-16-2007, 12:25 AM
I really liked how he was writing Tony as an a--hole then threw in the line about shield. Def soemthing more going on there...my only problem is this Tony=female Ultron. I got no problem with Ultron being a chick this time around but morphing to a girl from Tony? .....makes no sense.

Mogwai
03-16-2007, 01:07 AM
I really liked how he was writing Tony as an a--hole then threw in the line about shield. Def soemthing more going on there...my only problem is this Tony=female Ultron. I got no problem with Ultron being a chick this time around but morphing to a girl from Tony? .....makes no sense.
I took it as Tony's armor being hacked by Ultron. Honestly though, I couldn't tell if they were really fighting the monsters or training in some sort of simulation.

Willowhugger
03-16-2007, 01:14 AM
Because Bendis is adamant on portraying him as child-like and rookie-ish.

I'm honestly fairly sure that the Sentry's "remembered history" only exists in his head and he never was the Great Hero that he thinks he is.

Memphis Slim
03-16-2007, 07:29 AM
Preview for #3:

http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/3126/ma3pgyw4.jpg


Doesn't that ship look a little too low to be caught?? And wouldn't the structure just give way under the Sentry's pressure??

Varient
03-16-2007, 08:02 AM
Doesn't that ship look a little too low to be caught?? And wouldn't the structure just give way under the Sentry's pressure??

I expect if he has anything like X-ray vision or Touch Telekinisis,.. He'll grab it the right way,...


Or punch thru it like an awl and grab it by it's keel.

TheCorpulent1
03-16-2007, 09:09 AM
Or he'll catch it with no explanation other than the common knowledge that he's real strong and we'll all remember it's a comic book and go, "eh, whatever." Seriously, physics in comics haven't bothered anyone for 40 years. Why start now?

lowly marvelite
03-16-2007, 01:24 PM
Mighty Avengers Rule The Planet!!!

lowly marvelite
03-16-2007, 01:25 PM
Rule DUDE!!

TheCorpulent1
03-16-2007, 01:31 PM
Blisteringly insightful as always. :up:

Red Mask
03-16-2007, 08:22 PM
That preview looks great. Looks like Sentry is going to pull a 'Superman Returns' and land that falling SHIELD ship.

Or catch it like the kid in Disney's "Sky High". :woot: Ha! Ha!

Red Mask
03-16-2007, 08:24 PM
Mighty Avengers Rule The Planet!!!

Mighty Avengers versus post-OYL JLA. Who lays down the law?

AndThePickles
03-16-2007, 10:36 PM
Or catch it like the kid in Disney's "Sky High". :woot: Ha! Ha!

Oy, what a horrible movie :csad:

Red Mask
03-16-2007, 11:17 PM
Oy, what a horrible movie :csad:

But the kid still caught that falling school. A feat worthy of Superman.

Mogwai
03-16-2007, 11:56 PM
Or catch it like the kid in Disney's "Sky High". :woot: Ha! Ha!
Sentry: "Surprised? So am I..."

Mogwai
03-17-2007, 12:00 AM
Mighty Avengers versus post-OYL JLA. Who lays down the law?
Hmm.. Even though the Mighty Avengers is full of power houses, I'd say the JLA still takes it (b/c of the 'big three' mostly).

Eros
03-17-2007, 07:31 AM
But the kid still caught that falling school. A feat worthy of Superman.


actually If I rember correctly [I have the movie] he didn't catch it, as the schools anti-gravity gear kicked in at the last moment

Red Mask
03-17-2007, 10:41 PM
actually If I rember correctly [I have the movie] he didn't catch it, as the schools anti-gravity gear kicked in at the last moment

Is that so? Still a feat worthy of Superman.

Mogwai
03-17-2007, 10:53 PM
and we're back to the physics argument again... lol.

Memphis Slim
03-18-2007, 07:39 AM
I expect if he has anything like X-ray vision or Touch Telekinisis,.. He'll grab it the right way,...


Or punch thru it like an awl and grab it by it's keel.



But considering the weight of the ship and it's speed, the keel should snap off. There is no way without telekenesis to stop this thing.

TheCorpulent1
03-18-2007, 10:11 AM
There is one way: suspension of disbelief. Super-strong heroes have been breaking physics as long as comics have existed. There's no reason to start getting annoyed over it now.

Memphis Slim
03-18-2007, 06:57 PM
There is one way: suspension of disbelief. Super-strong heroes have been breaking physics as long as comics have existed. There's no reason to start getting annoyed over it now.

okay. :dry:

Colossal Spoons
03-18-2007, 08:08 PM
I'm diggin short haired Ares w/o his Spartan helmet on :up:

TheCorpulent1
03-18-2007, 08:29 PM
By "short-haired" do you mean no mohawk? Because Ares without a mohawk is no Ares at all. :(

Colossal Spoons
03-18-2007, 08:57 PM
Ares looks lore like Punisher now w/o the Vegeta hairline

Artistsean
03-19-2007, 12:08 AM
There is one way: suspension of disbelief. Super-strong heroes have been breaking physics as long as comics have existed. There's no reason to start getting annoyed over it now.

But you still have to start with some reality to ground it and make it seem possible. He can stop the ship from falling with his might, I see no problem with that, but the ship is still subject to gravity and would keep moving downward. (Sort of like in Superman Returns when he stops the plain but there is a sort of ripple from Superman's hands upward as the plane keeps trying to move downward.)
Plus the ship is SO BIG that he couldn't stop the momentum of the entire ship.
So parts of the ship would break, or keep moving down around him, maybe even go right through him (with him stopping part and the rest keep falling downward.), or even still breaking into smaller parts.

Willowhugger
03-19-2007, 12:12 AM
My biggest hope.

The Sentry doesn't remain a complete cipher.

Mogwai
03-19-2007, 12:34 AM
same here. he definitely needs fleshed out a little bit.

Memphis Slim
03-19-2007, 04:39 AM
But you still have to start with some reality to ground it and make it seem possible. He can stop the ship from falling with his might, I see no problem with that, but the ship is still subject to gravity and would keep moving downward. (Sort of like in Superman Returns when he stops the plain but there is a sort of ripple from Superman's hands upward as the plane keeps trying to move downward.)
Plus the ship is SO BIG that he couldn't stop the momentum of the entire ship.
So parts of the ship would break, or keep moving down around him, maybe even go right through him (with him stopping part and the rest keep falling downward.), or even still breaking into smaller parts.


That's where I was going....but I'm letting it slide. :yay:

Anubis
03-19-2007, 03:38 PM
Like the man said, it's all about suspension of disbelief. I mean, it's not like it's the first time somebodies picked up something that big. We all know it would fall apart under it's own weight, but it's a f**king superhero comic book. Deal with it.

Red
03-19-2007, 03:44 PM
By "short-haired" do you mean no mohawk? Because Ares without a mohawk is no Ares at all. :(

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g319/Red_X123/ares2.gif

Aya

TheCorpulent1
03-19-2007, 03:53 PM
Love the mohawk. The mohawk is your friend.

LouFerignoDemon
03-19-2007, 06:09 PM
But you still have to start with some reality to ground it and make it seem possible. He can stop the ship from falling with his might, I see no problem with that, but the ship is still subject to gravity and would keep moving downward. (Sort of like in Superman Returns when he stops the plain but there is a sort of ripple from Superman's hands upward as the plane keeps trying to move downward.)
Plus the ship is SO BIG that he couldn't stop the momentum of the entire ship.
So parts of the ship would break, or keep moving down around him, maybe even go right through him (with him stopping part and the rest keep falling downward.), or even still breaking into smaller parts.


You're thinking inertia. Gravity just "pulls". Though Einstein believes that things actually "fell", and Quantum Physics believes that gravitons "pull".