The Official Mighty Avengers Thread

[PhotoJones]

He has, you're right. I had to keep wiping the tears from my computer screen as I was reading his explanation of things.

[KangConquers]

He has, you're right. I had to keep wiping the tears from my computer screen as I was reading his explanation of things.

He was whining like TMags during Spider-Man 3.

What'd he do? Draw one of Ultron's tits a D and one a Double D?

[Sloth7d]

I can sorta understand him though. I wantto be an artist too someday. Last thing I drew I was severely dissapointedin and haven't drawn anything since. That was three months ago.

[KangConquers]

I can sorta understand him though. I wantto be an artist too someday. Last thing I drew I was severely dissapointedin and haven't drawn anything since. That was three months ago.

In all seriousness I can too. I'm a songwriter...and sometimes things just don't click.

[Anubis]

I'm an alcoholic....

[Red]

I'm a Porn star.

[PhotoJones]

I'm an alcoholic p*rn star. :o

[KangConquers]

I'm Thanos.

[PhotoJones]

No, you're Kang and you live in your parents' house.

[KangConquers]

No, you're Kang and you live in your parents' house.

:csad: I'm Iron Lad dammit. I don't become Kang till I'm 35.

I have time to achieve!!

edit: Oh, ****. I have to be Rama Tut in a year and a half.

[PhotoJones]

Rama Tut rules. :up:

[KangConquers]

Rama Tut rules. :up:

Nathaniel Richards (II) is definitely the king of crazy costumes.

[Sloth7d]

I'm a Porn star.

I'm an alcoholic p*rn star. :o

Pics or it didn't happen.:o

[DoomJester]

This is ridiculous. Does Cho not care about the title at all?

I wonder what would happen if some of the Countdown artists had half the pride in their work that Cho did ("heh, it's a weekly book no one is expecting good art"). I'm never happy with delays, but Cho is a good artist. It just proves that he may not need a team book, and he should get more lead in time, like Marvel is giving Hitch with Fantastic Four (can't wait!). I'm not adverse to seeing him on a book again. Maybe a MAX (that's important) Shawna sequel...

[SouLeSS]

I can sorta understand him though. I wantto be an artist too someday. Last thing I drew I was severely dissapointedin and haven't drawn anything since. That was three months ago.

Yeah, but oyu arn't getting paid out to do a whole book, he is.

**** like this is why the comic industry is slowly dying.

[Blader5489]

This is ridiculous. Does Cho not care about the title at all?

You know, it wouldn't even be so bad if it weren't for the fact that this arc is completely boring. Fighting Ultron (again), Iron Man pretending to be dead, etc...it's just pointless, and not compelling in the least.

[TheCorpulent1]

I wonder what would happen if some of the Countdown artists had half the pride in their work that Cho did ("heh, it's a weekly book no one is expecting good art"). I'm never happy with delays, but Cho is a good artist. It just proves that he may not need a team book, and he should get more lead in time, like Marvel is giving Hitch with Fantastic Four (can't wait!). I'm not adverse to seeing him on a book again. Maybe a MAX (that's important) Shawna sequel...
That would be great. Let him do his T&A art in an actual titty magazine and get a less exploitative artist for the mainstream comics. :up:

[PhotoJones]

That's easier said then done.

[TheCorpulent1]

Lee Weeks on Mighty Avengers. :up:

[PhotoJones]

Lee Weeks on Mighty Avengers. :up:

The only downside to that is Lee Weeks being wasted by Bendis. Lee Weeks on a Winter Soldier ongoing. :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

Cream, meet jeans.

[PhotoJones]

Half digested brownie, reintroduce yourself to palate. :(

[Darthphere]

Lee Weeks on Captain Marvel. :up:

[PhotoJones]

That's more like a :( than anything.

[Crosis]

The only downside to that is Lee Weeks being wasted by Bendis. Lee Weeks on a Winter Soldier ongoing. :up:


But I like Epting and Perkins just fine on that title...

[PhotoJones]

Clever. I wouldn't mind a proper Winter Soldier solo book once Steve comes back. How's that?

[Darthphere]

That's more like a :( than anything.

It's going to be the best mini in the last 25 years!

[PhotoJones]

Not counting everything else, right?

[Darthphere]

Not counting everything else, right?

The best mini starring Captain Marvel in the last 25 years.

[TheCorpulent1]

The best mini starring Captain Mar-Vell in the last 25 years, maybe.

[Darthphere]

The best mini starring Captain Mar-Vell in the last 25 years, maybe.

His name is Captain Marvel, the original in the Marvel Universe, you don't have to do that.

[TheCorpulent1]

His name is Captain Mar-Vell. The Earth's media just got his name wrong. And anything involving Phyla-Vell or Genis-Vell or even Monica Rambeau is probably gonna be better than the upcoming Captain Marvel mini. You just can't see it because you're a total Ms. Marvel fangirl and she's gonna be in it.

[Darthphere]

His name is Captain Mar-Vell. The Earth's media just got his name wrong. And anything involving Phyla-Vell or Genis-Vell or even Monica Rambeau is probably gonna be better than the upcoming Captain Marvel mini. You just can't see it because you're a total Ms. Marvel fangirl and she's gonna be in it.

Don't hate.

[PhotoJones]

His name is Captain Mar-Vell. The Earth's media just got his name wrong. And anything involving Phyla-Vell or Genis-Vell or even Monica Rambeau is probably gonna be better than the upcoming Captain Marvel mini. You just can't see it because you're a total Ms. Marvel fangirl and she's gonna be in it.

Have you ever read a Mar-Vell story?

[TheCorpulent1]

I never read his comic, but I've read stories that he's in. The fact remains that his return was ill-conceived and shouldn't have happened, though. Weeks is wasting his time on it. :(

[PhotoJones]

Sounds like Weeks is having fun doing it, and that's all that matters for him. I've been jonesing for some Weeks art lately. I think I may pick up his short run with PAD on the Hulk. "Tempest Fugit" is the name of the story, I believe.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, that was all right. It was basically a retcon of Bruce Jones' entire run.

[PhotoJones]

For real? Damn. That's a pretty short retcon for a pretty long run.

[Anubis]

Which is kinda funny when you think about it.

[PhotoJones]

Yeah, I guess it is. Go PAD. :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

I remember reading it and thinking, "Damn, PAD's kind of a dick. Oh well, Jones' Hulk sucked anyway." Double-standards abound.

[PhotoJones]

It was really that big of a retcon? What did he retcon exactly? All I remember of Jones' run was that he took the Banner on the run aspect and ran with it. Ran all over the place without actually going anywhere.

[TheCorpulent1]

Nah, not a huge retcon. He just implied that Jones' entire run may or may not have been a dream.

[PhotoJones]

Nah, not a huge retcon. He just implied that Jones' entire run may or may not have been a dream.

Holy ****. Seriously?

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah. It's pretty weird. Read it for yourself and make your own conclusions.

[PhotoJones]

That's dickish in a funny, I can get behind it sort of way. :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, 'cause Jones' run sucked. :)

[PhotoJones]

I don't remember it starting out that way. I remember really digging it. And then digging it less. And then wondering where the story was going. And then I remember dropping it.

[Anubis]

Yeah, 'cause Jones' run sucked.


It did. It really did.

I don't remember it starting out that way. I remember really digging it. And then digging it less. And then wondering where the story was going. And then I remember dropping it.


It really didn't start to suck until the Absorbing man arc. That pretty much was the beginning of the end.

[TheCorpulent1]

It wandered aimlessly before that, which sucked to me. Deodato's arrival seemed to give Jones some more focus, but then it all fell apart with that Absorbing Man arc.

[PhotoJones]

Deodato's work during that run was some of the best I've seen from him.

[KangConquers]

so hath anyone read the new ish?

[PhotoJones]

Did it even ship?

[KangConquers]

I thought it was due today?

[PhotoJones]

That means nothing, bud.

[KangConquers]

My car is stuck in the shop...so I can't make it to the shop till later :-(

[PhotoJones]

I'm stuck at work til 6.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm at work 'til 5, but it'll probably be about 6 by the time I make it to the shop through rush hour traffic.

[PhotoJones]

Sometimes I'll hit the shop on my lunchbreak. Not today, though.

[TheCorpulent1]

My shop doesn't stock stuff until like 3. I can't go that long without eating. :(

[PhotoJones]

My shop stock them before they open which is noon.

[TheCorpulent1]

Mine opens at 11, but I don't think they even receive their comics until noon or early afternoon most of the time. I've gone in at lunchtime and they've told me either they're still sorting through them to get pull lists ready and haven't shelved them or they haven't even received them from UPS yet.

[PhotoJones]

On a side note, I stopped into another shop that I do not frequent unless it's for boxes, bags or boards and they had advance copies of MA #5.

[TheCorpulent1]

Considering a switch?

[Blader5489]

CBR has spoilers for the issue. Apparently, it was awesome.

[PhotoJones]

Considering a switch?

No, I'm loyal.

[Colossal Spoons]

CBR has spoilers for the issue. Apparently, it was awesome.

Hahaha. Thought bubbles and repetitious fighting again eh?

[TheCorpulent1]

CBR has spoilers for the issue. Apparently, it was awesome.
Awesome because it was actually good, or awesome because the 'tards at CBR were impressed by Cho's ability to draw boobs?

[PhotoJones]

The CBR folks are indeed 'tards.

[Colossal Spoons]

How the hell the Sentry hasn't inflicted more damage on Ultron amazes me. I get that Tony's in there and everything, but damn.

[PhotoJones]

Probably because the Sentry sucks.

[Colossal Spoons]

Maybe he does, I used to think he was bad ass. Marvel's really overdoing the crazy angle.

Captain Marvel FTW!

[PhotoJones]

Hopefully, someone will realize the Sentry sucks and just do away with him.

[TheCorpulent1]

There's no need for him now that Thor's back. :up:

[PhotoJones]

Sure, there is. Thor wants no part of any Avengers team.

[Sloth7d]

Carnage will be back for revenge and rip him in half. I mean if Spider-man can get away with beating FireLord, I think Carnage deserves "something".

[KangConquers]

Carnage will be back for revenge and rip him in half. I mean if Spider-man can get away with beating FireLord, I think Carnage deserves "something".

HAHAHAHA.

Sentry beat by Carnage? That's as likely as the Slug beating Captain America in a fist fight.

[Sloth7d]

HAHAHAHA.

Sentry beat by Carnage? That's as likely as the Slug beating Captain America in a fist fight.

Or saying Captain America beat Hulk in a full on brawl.

[hippie_hunter]

Sure, there is. Thor wants no part of any Avengers team.

For the time being because he's focused on trying to revive Asgard. And he's pissed at Tony for making a cyborg clone of him.

Although, Thor has stated that he will pick up with Tony on that topic again. Hopefully, JMS won't write Stark off as a total fascist dickbag and have Thor forgive him.

[DoomJester]

I read the new issue, I know some people were asking about how it was, and it is another action issue, but MA is an action book, and now that I see that, I can enjoy it a lot more. The issue was good. Ultron's plan is shown in a new light, it was a simple yet elegant twist that will make you pay a bit more attention to the story.

Ares' plan is interesting, and he finally shows why he is on the team. Though I must say I think his characterization is off- he's a meat head here, while in the Oeming series he was nice dude who cared more about picking his kid up from school than anything else. Oh well. I think the next issue will be neat, and this arc may actually go out with an even bigger bang.

I can put up more info with spoiler tags if you all want. I browse Hype compulsively during this class.

[PhotoJones]

For the time being because he's focused on trying to revive Asgard. And he's pissed at Tony for making a cyborg clone of him.

Although, Thor has stated that he will pick up with Tony on that topic again. Hopefully, JMS won't write Stark off as a total fascist dickbag and have Thor forgive him.

Thor's not just mad at Tony; he's mad at all the heroes that involved themselves in a civil war, rather then do their jobs and help people. Tony just gets a special dislike from Thor on account of cloning him.

[TheCorpulent1]

Thor was mad at Tony for the betrayal of his fellow heroes, hunting them down and putting them in prison, too. I think he would've been a little more lenient on the anti-reg heroes during the war, since they were just doing what they always did until Iron Man got the SHRA passed and started hunting them.

Right now, however, I agree with you. He'd probably come down just as hard on the New Avengers and the other anti-reg stragglers because they're still too busy hiding and dissenting against the Man to actually help people. Every day they stay wrapped up in their own affairs with Iron Man and the Initiative, they're effectively adding casualties to their private war by not saving people's lives.
I read the new issue, I know some people were asking about how it was, and it is another action issue, but MA is an action book, and now that I see that, I can enjoy it a lot more. The issue was good. Ultron's plan is shown in a new light, it was a simple yet elegant twist that will make you pay a bit more attention to the story.

Ares' plan is interesting, and he finally shows why he is on the team. Though I must say I think his characterization is off- he's a meat head here, while in the Oeming series he was nice dude who cared more about picking his kid up from school than anything else. Oh well. I think the next issue will be neat, and this arc may actually go out with an even bigger bang.

I can put up more info with spoiler tags if you all want. I browse Hype compulsively during this class.
Actually, the classic portrayal of Ares in Marvel's comics is somewhere between Bendis' and Oeming's portrayals. He was angry, warlike, and brutish, but he was also a little more sophisticated than Bendis' utterly testosterone-driven version. Oeming struck the right balance after Ares got sucked into fighting for the Olympians--he's fierce on the battlefield, but he's also totally self-absorbed and more concerned with his own issues (pretty much just his son and winning in fights at this point) than helping anyone.

[PhotoJones]

Thor was mad at Tony for the betrayal of his fellow heroes, hunting them down and putting them in prison, too. I think he would've been a little more lenient on the anti-reg heroes during the war, since they were just doing what they always did until Iron Man got the SHRA passed and started hunting them.

Right now, however, I agree with you. He'd probably come down just as hard on the New Avengers and the other anti-reg stragglers because they're still too busy hiding and dissenting against the Man to actually help people. Every day they stay wrapped up in their own affairs with Iron Man and the Initiative, they're effectively adding casualties to their private war by not saving people's lives.


Yeah, Thor did tell Tony that anyone who opposes the SHRA could hang in Asgard if they wanted. But he also condemned all the heroes involved in the CW.

[DoomJester]

Thanks for the correction, I guess Bendis isn't super far off. I like Oeming's character, though not really the series, just becauser Ares wasn't so one note.

[Red]

Reading Bendis's Ultron is painful.

[Colossal Spoons]

Today's issue was far from "awesome". The guys at CBR worry me :(

[Harlekin]

Not awesome. Definitely not awesome.

[PhotoJones]

I thought it was enjoyable in a stupid, Micheal Bay directed Transformers way.

[moraldeficiency]

HAHAHAHA.

Sentry beat by Carnage? That's as likely as the Slug beating Captain America in a fist fight.

Is that more or less likely than sentry doing something?

[TheCorpulent1]

I thought it was enjoyable in a stupid, Micheal Bay directed Transformers way.
I thought it was all right, but it would've been a lot better without the thought bubbles. Why does Bendis believe that the only good use for thought bubbles is to have all the characters--who already come off a little petty under him, incidentally--snipe at each other in private?

[Anubis]

Cuz that's how people are for realz. :p

[PhotoJones]

I thought it was all right, but it would've been a lot better without the thought bubbles. Why does Bendis believe that the only good use for thought bubbles is to have all the characters--who already come off a little petty under him, incidentally--snipe at each other in private?

Probably because a Skrull is revealed within the thought bubbles. I've been meaning to look through the past issues, but I'm lazy. So I didn't. And I probably won't.

[TheCorpulent1]

Cuz that's how people are for realz. :p
Yeah, Bendis is so totally a realistic writer, 'cause everyone in the world is a cynical a**hole. :whatever:

[PhotoJones]

You are, though. :confused:

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm not everyone in the world, am I, assmaster?

[PhotoJones]

Of course not. But usually, cynical ***holes wish everyone in the world was more like them. :o

[KangConquers]

I love the thought bubbles...remember this is the pro-registration side. They're all *******s.

[PhotoJones]

No one likes the thought bubbles, dude. Get with it.

[KangConquers]

No one likes the thought bubbles, dude. Get with it.

But I'm a skru...**** I almost let it slip!:wow:

[PhotoJones]

But I'm a skru...**** I almost let it slip!:wow:

Quoted for posterity's sake.

[KangConquers]

*panicks...reports back to base about thought bubbles not being cool*

[Sloth7d]

All I can think is... I waited nearly 3 months for this? It took Cho almost three months to draw this?! Seeing that the Ultron arc is almost over, I'm also left thinking... 6 issues and what happens. Well the Sentry's wife dies. Scratch the potential for that character, already he's off to a crappy start. Ares is captain obvious. And it seems like none of these guys would be on a team with each other if given a real choice. Oh, and now even I find the word bubbles annoying or atleast misused looking at the current situation.

Well, on to the symbiote arc.

[bkhedr]

I'm with sloth7d

just another garbage issue that could have been written by a 10 year old and acctually seems like it was written and drawn for 12 year olds.

Mighty Avengers sucks more than anything has ever sucked

[bkhedr]

Reading Bendis's Ultron is painful.

At this point just reading MA at all is painful

its not just that the characterization is off, or the dialogue is horrendous, or that the 'thoughts' in the thought bubbles are nothing of the sort.

Its also that through 5 issues thew only thing that has been accomplished is that I now think Ares is lame and Ultron is forever dead to me as a viable character.

If anybody wants me i'll be burning Bendis in effigy

[KangConquers]

Bendis still isn't as bad as JMS on Spidey.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm with sloth7d

just another garbage issue that could have been written by a 10 year old and acctually seems like it was written and drawn for 12 year olds.

Mighty Avengers sucks more than anything has ever sucked

Read this week's New Excalibur and see if your mind has changed :(

[Upset Spideyfan]

Mighty Avengers #5

Am I the only one that actually liked this issue? :huh:

Maybe its just me but I didn't see the big problem that everybody was having this month.

Case in point, I thought Dread's review was overly harsh. For example at one point you complained about Bendis writing Ultron as having sissy daddy issues. At the time I hadn't read the issue, so after seeing your review I half expected Ultron to whine to Pym like a spoiled daughter or something.

When I finally got to their confrontation within the issue, I ended up reading it a second time to see if I had missed the bit you were writing about. Ultron seemed, at least to me, to be no more sentimental (or sissy if you prefer) than he has been in previous stories; Ultron has always been quirky in regards to Hank Pym, and I don't think that his wanting to keep Pym alive so that he can see the world Ultron has in store = Ultron declaring his love for humanity.

Anyway, on the positive side, there were a bunch of highlights for me this month: The fight between the MA and the Iron Man armors continues to be pretty as was the bit between Sentry and Ultron, especially the part with Ultron reforming his face after it got craters punched into it.

Hank stepped into the limelight for a bit, certainly pulling off a better showing than he usually gets in the Bendis comic. The splash page with him as Ant-Man brought a smile to my lips.

3.5/5

[Colossal Spoons]

As far as Ant-anything goes: Lang>Pym :o

[KangConquers]

As far as Ant-anything goes: Lang>Pym :o

No...wrong.:csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

I was just joking anyway, never even read about Lang until Wanda killed him :(

[KangConquers]

I was just joking anyway, never even read about Lang until Wanda killed him :(

I don't have a problem with Lang...but Pym is classic. a founding Avenger even.

[Blader5489]

I'm with sloth7d

just another garbage issue that could have been written by a 10 year old and acctually seems like it was written and drawn for 12 year olds.

Mighty Avengers sucks more than anything has ever sucked

Comic books for kids? What an outrageous idea!

[Red Mask]

At this point the story has been dragging on too long. The nuke scene with Ms. Marvel is way too late because her title has already moved on from that battle weeks later.

Punching the Sentry to Pittsburgh was o.k. but Ares was definitely stealing the show.

[YJ1]

Bendis still isn't as bad as JMS on Spidey.

His start on Thor hasn't been anything to write home about either. Maybe when Norman Osborn knocks up the mortal Sif, things will get interesting.:whatever:

As for Mighty Avengers, I still love Cho's art but this UltronChick story is just so hollow and has been a huge disappointment.

[bkhedr]

Read this week's New Excalibur and see if your mind has changed :(

wow

I've haven't read it yet but the thought it really depressing

[Sloth7d]

Comic books for kids? What an outrageous idea!
What bkhedr is saying is, that this comic tries to appeal to adults with it's constant swearing, adult humor, fan service, and non stop action but it just comes out juvenile. It's like some 10 year old wrote an Avengers fanfic. Also, they might aswell just kill off the Sentry or something at this point or make him the Void permanately.

[PhotoJones]

Am I the only one that actually liked this issue? :huh:

No, I liked it well enough. It's a quick, fun read.

[Upset Spideyfan]

No, I liked it well enough. It's a quick, fun read.

You and I may be the only bastions of sanity left. :csad:

[JackRembrandt]

I was just joking anyway, never even read about Lang until Wanda killed him :(

I wasn't too familiar with Lang, either. His last costume before his death was pretty goofy.

[Kevin]

Read the issue. Liked it enough.

[TheCorpulent1]

I wasn't too familiar with Lang, either. His last costume before his death was pretty goofy.
I thought it was easily the best of his costumes.

[PhotoJones]

I didn't like the weird, metal bug head/helmet. Or am I not remembering the same costume?

[TheCorpulent1]

This is his last costume before dying. (http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/8/8e/Ant-Man_(Scott_Lang)_003.jpg) I thought it was a great design by Coipel.

[Colossal Spoons]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/af/AnextAntman.JPG


Sweet :o

[Sloth7d]

I actually like the Antman costume we see him where this issue over the Yellow Jacket one. Yeah, the helmets big, but it works.

[Kevin]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/af/AnextAntman.JPG


Sweet :o
Scarlet Antman?

[Red Mask]

Looks more like that bug from the Micronauts. What were they thinking?

[TheCorpulent1]

I actually like the Antman costume we see him where this issue over the Yellow Jacket one. Yeah, the helmets big, but it works.
It's always nice to see Pym in anything other than that godawful Yellowjacket costume.

[Oh Snap!]

I like the Yellowjacket costume :csad:..

[TheCorpulent1]

Then you're part of the problem. :cmad:

[Oh Snap!]

It's not my fault. :o

It reminds me of better times for the Avengers, of Ultron without breasts, and without the Yellowjacket persona we wouldn't have the awesomeness that was Dr.Pym over in WCA.

[TheCorpulent1]

So like the Dr. Pym costume. Yellowjacket sucks. :o

[Oh Snap!]

You suck. :cmad:

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't deny that. But Yellowjacket still sucks more because I don't hit women and then attempt to relive those 'glory days' years later. :down

[Oh Snap!]

You say that like he's running around in A:TI slapping women around by the dozen, he's trying to make up for past mistakes and redeem himself and the "Yellowjacket" name (he has been for years, but some writers can't seem to let it go).

[CaptainStacy]

Man, i just read the latest issue, and i absolutely LOVED it!

It's like an epic movie, or something. By far Bendis' best book at the moment!

[KangConquers]

The best Hank Pym costume/ persona is Giant Man...k thanks.

If you answered anything else...you were wrong.

[TheCorpulent1]

You say that like he's running around in A:TI slapping women around by the dozen, he's trying to make up for past mistakes and redeem himself and the "Yellowjacket" name (he has been for years, but some writers can't seem to let it go).
That's what Marvel claims is the reason he's in the YJ costume again, but the fact remains that the incident with Jan is referenced and made into a big thing a lot more now than it was for the 20 or so years between when it happened and when he went back to wearing the YJ suit. It still fills me with hate every time I see it. :cmad:
Man, i just read the latest issue, and i absolutely LOVED it!

It's like an epic movie, or something. By far Bendis' best book at the moment!
The snippy little passive-aggressive thought bubbles really don't bother you at all?

[Xplicit Content]

The thought balloons are a little a corny. I see what he is trying to do and the idea has potential from a snark POV, but he's not accomplishing what he's trying to...this idea with the thought balloons would work better with a writer who has a better sense of humor.

This arc didn't really do anything for me. I hope it gets better. I'll be sad to see Cho go since his stuff was the bright spot in this arc, but if he can't get the book out on time, then it's for the best. I hope they get a good replacement. I don't think I'll like Bagley on this book.

[CaptainStacy]

The snippy little passive-aggressive thought bubbles really don't bother you at all?

No i think they're kind of cool. No other book is using them, to my knowledge...Some of them are pretty funny, like a few issues back when Natasha took command of SHIELD and Ares is looking at her with a :heart: thought bubble....

[KangConquers]

No i think they're kind of cool. No other book is using them, to my knowledge...Some of them are pretty funny, like a few issues back when Natasha took command of SHIELD and Ares is looking at her with a :heart: thought bubble....

Yeah lol.

I like the thought bubbles a lot.

[TheCorpulent1]

They make all the characters seem like immature little snots to me. If these were a bunch of newbies, I could see it working, but it strikes me as silly for veteran Avengers to be thinking such petty, pointless crap during a crisis.

[PhotoJones]

Is it really that hard for everybody to just ignore the thought bubbles? I don't have a problem with that at all.

This is his last costume before dying. I thought it was a great design by Coipel.

Yeah, I'm not into it. The bug helmet looks too alien.

[TheCorpulent1]

Looks like super-tech to me, which is what it is. But to each his own. I lurve that costume.

[PhotoJones]

I still dig the Avengers Forever look the best. I don't why they can't use that. I mean, Wasp is in her AF costume right now. Why not Hank?

[TheCorpulent1]

Because Hank is a dick right now. Hank as dick = Yellowjacket.

[PhotoJones]

When has Hank been a dick recently? :confused:

The only book I'm reading with him in it is A: TI and he's been pretty stressed out, but I wouldn't call him a dick. He still seems to be trying to the right thing.

[TheCorpulent1]

He's a bit dickish in Mighty Avengers, and everyone else is a dick to him, too. In ATI, Slott's doing a decent job of showing more sides to him, but his whole involvement with the Initiative and Iron Man's plans at the highest levels makes him somewhat dickish, just as it has Tony and Reed.

[PhotoJones]

How is he a dick in MA? He's just...there. Neither a dick or not a dick. People may be a dick to him, but that doesn't mean he's a dick.

[Colossal Spoons]

I don't deny that. But Yellowjacket still sucks more because I don't hit women and then attempt to relive those 'glory days' years later. :down

As the Pym-supporters would say "It was only one time! :("

[PhotoJones]

It was only one time, though. :confused:

[Colossal Spoons]

iknow PJ, iknow :o

[PhotoJones]

The exact same amount of times Peter hit MJ. :o

[Colossal Spoons]

"not enough"?

[TheCorpulent1]

The exact same amount of times Peter hit MJ. :o
Spidey fans: "That doesn't count! :cmad:"

[PhotoJones]

If that doesn't count, then neither does Pym's little act of agression. :o

[Colossal Spoons]

He should take lessons from his Ultimate counterpart :o

[TheCorpulent1]

Ultimate Hank knows how to smack a b**** right. :up:

[CaptainStacy]

Ultimate Hank knows how to smack a b**** right. :up:


Doesnt do so well against army captains though. :cwink:

[Captain Useless]

Spidey fans: "That doesn't count! :cmad:"

Because he did it after Pym!

[PhotoJones]

Ultimate Hank knows how to smack a b**** right. :up:

So wrong...

[Red Mask]

So wrong...

Agreed. :cmad:

[Darthphere]

But it feels so right....

[TheCorpulent1]

But it feels so right....
... if you're Ultimate Hank.

[Darthphere]

No, if you have testicles.

[TheCorpulent1]

That's just wrong. :(

[Darthphere]

But like I said, it feels so right.

[wolvie2020]

Yeah lol.

I like the thought bubbles a lot.

Yea, I dig 'em big time as well!

And I was never a fan of the old school thought bubbles... But these are pretty entertaining :up:

[wolvie2020]

Really good ish, just a shame about the delays

[Varient]

When has Hank been a dick recently? :confused:

The only book I'm reading with him in it is A: TI and he's been pretty stressed out, but I wouldn't call him a dick. He still seems to be trying to the right thing.

wow.

I agree.

[Steve Rogers]

Yeah, I haven't seen Hank be a dick in anything I've read recently either. I think people still hate him for what happened like 458905890806 years ago. Get over it people!

[Eros]

people always remeber that one really bad thing you did, despite the 99 other great things you did.

[Red Mask]

But like I said, it feels so right.

So does smoking a joint. Doesn't mean it is right.

[PhotoJones]

wow.

I agree.

And with that, you have just brought upon the apocalypse.

[Sloth7d]

So does smoking a joint. Doesn't mean it is right.

It's just as right as drinking alcohol. It's just illegal... in America atleast.

[Red Mask]

It's just as right as drinking alcohol. It's just illegal... in America atleast.

Is this why you called yourself Sloth7d?

[PhotoJones]

It's just as right as drinking alcohol. It's just illegal... in America atleast.

Alcohol is much, much righter then smoking. :up:

[masteryoda]

people always remeber that one really bad thing you did, despite the 99 other great things you did.

Very true.

[TheCorpulent1]

Unless you're Spider-Man. ;)

[Sloth7d]

Is this why you called yourself Sloth7d?

No, I don't really smoke. But I always found it weird that alcohol is legal while weed isn't.:cwink:

Alcohol is much, much righter then smoking. :up:

Pssh. You're such a square. All the cool kids are doing it.

[Sloth7d]

Unless you're Spider-Man. ;)

Or the Hulk or Wolverine.

[Upset Spideyfan]

Or Deadpool.

[PhotoJones]

Pssh. You're such a square. All the cool kids are doing it.

All the cooler kids drink good beer. :up:

[Sloth7d]

All the cooler kids drink good beer. :up:

Alcohol was so five minutes ago.

[Kitsune]

And with that, you have just brought upon the apocalypse.
Your right, here he is:
http://www.marveldirectory.com/pictures/individuals/a_1d/apocalypse1.gif

[PhotoJones]

Alcohol was so five minutes ago.

That'll be the single dumbest thing I'll read all day. I'm calling it right now.

[Sloth7d]

That'll be the single dumbest thing I'll read all day. I'm calling it right now.

It was meant to be.:up:

[Kitsune]

That'll be the single dumbest thing I'll read all day. I'm calling it right now.

I think it he means that he ran out 5 minutes ago.

[PhotoJones]

It was meant to be.:up:

The said part is: No, it wasn't.

[Kevin]

Most people probably alreadly read this, but whatev...

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=136973

AND THAT'S A WRAP: FRANK CHO ON FINISHING HIS MIGHTY AVENGERS RUN
http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/MightyAvengers/06/MIGHTAVN007cov_t.jpg (http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/MightyAvengers/06/MIGHTAVN007cov.jpg) by Benjamin Ong Pang Kean

Last Thursday, superstar and fan favorite artist Frank Cho contacted us and informed that he’s just finished drawing Mighty Avengers #6. “I regained some of my speed,” he said. “This issue took me a little over 6 weeks to complete instead of my usual 10+ weeks on my previous issues.”

As many fans know, Cho is leaving (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=130974) Mighty Avengers after the sixth issue. Next on his plan is the Mighty Avengers Annual with writer Brian Michael Bendis.

That was then. But how has things changed now that he’s gotten his groove back?

In the following exit interview with Cho, he gave his thoughts on finally completing his last issue of Mighty Avengers, an Avengers spin-off series that was first announced (http://www.newsarama.com/SDCC06/Marvel/mighty.html) at Comic-Con International in San Diego in 2006 and later debuted in early 2007, and more.

Newsarama: All right, Frank. How has the whole experience with a) Mighty Avengers, and b) the sixth issue, been from start to finish?

Frank Cho: My experience with Mighty Avengers and issue #6 were fun, exciting, grueling and educational. They pushed me, tested me, and made me realize my artistic possibilities and limitations.

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/MightyAvengers/06/MIGHTAVN006004_t.jpg (http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/MightyAvengers/06/MIGHTAVN006004.jpg) NRAMA: Okay, we last spoke around the end of September, so that's week 1 and you said you were starting on issue #6. However, between then and now, that works out to, yeah, slightly over 6 weeks. What got you back in the game then?

FC: Well, to put it bluntly, I had to choose Mighty Avengers over my family life. I put all my side jobs on the back-burner and drastically cut my family time with my wife and kids. I set my wife aside and explained to her the gravity of the situation, and made her understand that I won’t be around for her or the kids until I got issue #6 done. She was very understanding, kept the kids away from me, and completely ran the household single-handedly and freed up extra work time for me.

NRAMA: When you told us that you were leaving Mighty Avengers, you cited having "too much to draw" and "mismanagement of time" as the two of the main challenges with the project. Looking at the pages that you'd sent us, man, there's really a lot to draw. How did you manage both of those factors?

FC: I just sucked it up and did it. I pretty much shut myself in my basement studio the last 2 weeks and cranked out a page a day. Also my friend, Brandon Peterson, was a big help by assisting me with some of the intricate backgrounds.

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/MightyAvengers/06/MIGHTAVN006006_t.jpg (http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/MightyAvengers/06/MIGHTAVN006006.jpg) NRAMA: Did the fact that Brandon Peterson was brought in to provide background art assist help that much?

FC: Oh, yeah. Brandon Peterson saved my ass on issue #6. He flew in for a week and worked with me side by side. It was great. We sat next to each other passing pages back and forth, tag-teaming some of the more complex backgrounds. Brandon was also instrumental in keeping my spirits up throughout the whole run and through some of the most grueling marathon sessions.

NRAMA: What was the collaboration between the two of you like? He's an artist like yourself. Did you provide the layouts and he went to draw the backgrounds? Or did he work on the backgrounds based on Brian's script and you then drew the main figures? What?

FC: I penciled and inked the whole book myself except some of the background which I penciled in the perspective lines and roughly indicating mass. In issue #6, where Ares is flying around inside Ultron, most of the background in the tunnel sequence was done by Brandon.

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/MightyAvengers/06/MIGHTAVN006008_t.jpg (http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/MightyAvengers/06/MIGHTAVN006008.jpg) NRAMA: From the previews, this last chapter looks like it's going to be one all-out action all the way till the end? Did Brian really let you go loose with the pages? Or did he provide detailed fight scenes and panels?

FC: Brian writes a tight and highly detailed script. He had everything planned out from start to finish. But he gave me enough wiggle room to alter the action sequences to make the story flow better visually.

NRAMA: Are you already regretting not being on board for the next arc which'll feature Venom or rather Venoms...?

FC: Yes and no. If you look at my Mighty Avengers issue #7 cover, I really enjoyed drawing Venom. But I knew I was pretty burned out and no way in hell, I could do another epic storyline.

NRAMA: So, what's next for you? Straight to the Mighty Avengers Annual project? Or are you considering doing another future arc?

FC: I’m going to take a month off and make-up for my absence with the family. I’m going to work on Liberty Meadows #38 until Brian sends me the script to Mighty Avengers Annual #1. I’ve talked with Tom Breevort about me being the regular cover artist on Mighty Avengers starting with #12. Aside from those, I have no immediate plans on doing more Mighty Avengers, but Brian and Tom have left the door open for me to come back anytime.

NRAMA: What's it like to be reading and receiving those comments and praises from fellow creators like Mark Millar, Bryan Hitch and Bendis himself on the MillarWorld and JinxWorld forums?

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/MightyAvengers/06/MIGHTAVN006009_t.jpg (http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/MightyAvengers/06/MIGHTAVN006009.jpg) FC: I don’t associate myself with godless sodomites. No, I’m kidding. I’m surprised, happy and grateful for the kind words of support and encouragement from the giants of our field. I have a special spot for Mark Millar and Bryan Hitch, since I have copies of their Ultimates book next to my drawing table for inspiration while I was working on Mighty Avengers. I want to go on record that Bryan Hitch is the ____in’ man. He has to be the best interior artist in the business right now. I love how he moves his camera and the way he composes his pictures. And his drawings are always spot on. Great stuff. I can’t wait for their Fantastic Four run.

NRAMA: So, really, what did Brian write in his email to you? Anything that you're able to share with our readers?

FC: Nothing but congratulatory praises for finishing the first story arc… and bi-curious poems. I’m kidding. I’m kidding.

NRAMA: Now that it's all done, what have you discovered about Brian that only you knew about... until now, that is?

FC: He once killed a man in Reno, just to watch him die.

NRAMA: Is he a Skrull?

FC: No, I think he’s a Democrat.

NRAMA: Are you?

FC: No, I’m an Independent.

NRAMA: And that's a wrap! Any last words till next time we chat?

FC: I just want to thank everyone for reading and supporting Mighty Avengers, and making this one of the best experiences of my life.

[Kevin]

...:huh: did that just work?

[Xofenroht]

Man, I can't believe I missed out on the pot and booze convo.

[Kitsune]

Man, I can't believe I missed out on the pot and booze convo.

I missed the chance to say "Thats like the pot calling the booze addictive"

[Blader5489]

His typical speed was 10+ weeks per issue? Now, I'm not at all an artist nor do I know much about drawing comics, but 10+ weeks seems incredibly excessive to me.

[TheCorpulent1]

He seems to have wasted a lot of time on unnecessary stuff, if that smoke cloud on the first page is any indication. There are these dudes called colorists who'll take care of all that shading for you now. :o

Anyway, Cho's gone! Ding dong, the slow-as-s*** primadonna's dead. Can't wait to not read future issues of MA now... on time. :up:

[JackRembrandt]

He's slow and overrated, yes, but how is he a primadonna exactly?

[Mr. Green]

Alcohol is much, much righter then smoking. :up:
How do you figure that? I would say that Alcohol is much wronger. Afterall, you never hear anybody saying, "Sorry honey. I didn't mean to hit you! It was the pot, I swear!" Not to mention all the people dead because of drunk driving.

Weed makes you high, happy, hungry, and tired. In that order.

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

He's slow and overrated, yes, but how is he a primadonna exactly?
Especially when compared to the book's author?

[JackRembrandt]

Good point. :up:

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

How do you figure that? I would say that Alcohol is much wronger. Afterall, you never hear anybody saying, "Sorry honey. I didn't mean to hit you! It was the pot, I swear!" Not to mention all the people dead because of drunk driving.

Weed makes you high, happy, hungry, and tired. In that order.

And THAT's why it'll NEVER be legal.

The gov't only wants us to indulge in substances that make us stupid, emotional and hostile. In that order.

[TheCorpulent1]

He's slow and overrated, yes, but how is he a primadonna exactly?
I don't know, I was venting and that's just what came out. I guess because the whole book slowed down for him, rather than just going to a fill-in. That inflated his importance well beyond what it should be--for him or any other penciler, quite frankly--or something.

[JackRembrandt]

I don't know, I was venting and that's just what came out. I guess because the whole book slowed down for him, rather than just going to a fill-in. That inflated his importance well beyond what it should be--for him or any other penciler, quite frankly--or something.

Not having a fill-in is going to be Marvel's decision, not Cho's. And I don't know how you can say it inflated his ego, either. From that interview and past interviews on the same subject, he seems to be genuinely disappointed in himself for mismanaging his time and delaying the book.

[masteryoda]

Yeah, it's been Marvel policey for the most part not to switch artists in the middle of an arc. I'm going to miss Cho. I think he's far from being overrated and for my money he's the second best artist in the biz next to Cassidy.

[Kitsune]

Yeah, it's been Marvel policey for the most part not to switch artists in the middle of an arc. I'm going to miss Cho. I think he's far from being overrated and for my money he's the second best artist in the biz next to Cassidy.

I agree, Cho seems to be a really nice guy, and I respect him for quiting because he couldn't keep up, rather than let the book suffer. He will be missed.

[masteryoda]

Plus he's an ass man. How can anyone have a problem with that? ;)

[masteryoda]

Plus he's an ass man. How can anyone have a problem with that? ;)

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, it's been Marvel policey for the most part not to switch artists in the middle of an arc. I'm going to miss Cho. I think he's far from being overrated and for my money he's the second best artist in the biz next to Cassidy.
Eh, I'm just glad he's gone. I hope he never draws anything I read again. :up:

[Red]

Thor with man breasts, you know you want it Corp.

[TheCorpulent1]

Why would I want to see Thor with man breasts? :confused:

[Red]

Who doesn't want to see Thor with man breasts?

[TheCorpulent1]

Most normal people, I imagine.

[Red]

Not including you.

[Captain Useless]

Thor with breasts?
I'm not sure if that's divine or blasphemy.

[Red Mask]

Who doesn't want to see Thor with man breasts?

There's a difference between pecks and fat boy tits. :marv:

[wobbly]

His typical speed was 10+ weeks per issue? Now, I'm not at all an artist nor do I know much about drawing comics, but 10+ weeks seems incredibly excessive to me.

Lets see, that's roughly 2 pages per week?...Say working 5 days a week that's a few panels only per day....Looking at the results I have to say that is definitely excessive.

Jeez, I remember when some of the top artists could knock out 2 titles a month on time every time. And that was before photoshop colorists were around to jazz up any empty backgrounds.

[TheCorpulent1]

Thor and PPSM from the period where JR Jr. was drawing both simultaneously still look pretty good, even by today's standards. Not as good as what JR Jr.'s usually capable of, but better than a lot of other current artists' work.

[Kitsune]

Plus he's an ass man. How can anyone have a problem with that? ;)

Cho is a Tit man first... ass man second.

[Kevin]

I really like his art.

[Sloth7d]

Lets see, that's roughly 2 pages per week?...Say working 5 days a week that's a few panels only per day....Looking at the results I have to say that is definitely excessive.

Jeez, I remember when some of the top artists could knock out 2 titles a month on time every time. And that was before photoshop colorists were around to jazz up any empty backgrounds.

Wow, I never actually broke it down into days or weeks. Basically he's getting paid to do nothing. What kind of job does he think he has? Security?

[Vanguard07]

Seriously I'm not much of an artist but even I could put out an issue of good looking artwork in 10 weeks.

He's supposed to be a proffessional. He's got no excuse.

[Xofenroht]

I bet he just gets distracted with all those hot chicks he draws.

[Sloth7d]

Is that why he tells his wife not to disturb him during his writing?

[Red Mask]

Writing? Cho is the penciler, not the writer.

[Captain Useless]

I bet he just gets distracted with all those hot chicks he draws.

haha, I know I do :up:

[Kevin]

Writing? Cho is the penciler, not the writer.
I thought he wrote, as well.::huh:

[Ahura Mazda]

I was just wondering something given the new avengers comic what interest is there to have the whole venom cycle when the end was already shown.

[TheCorpulent1]

Not much, as far as I'm concerned. But I guess that's why I'm not reading the comic.

[Sloth7d]

Writing? Cho is the penciler, not the writer.

You "write" with a pencil don't you? That's what I meant.

[TheCorpulent1]

Most people write with pens, actually. Scratch that, most people "write" with computers now.

[Sloth7d]

I "write" with wrongs.

[Anubis]

I was just wondering something given the new avengers comic what interest is there to have the whole venom cycle when the end was already shown.

Sometimes, it's not about the destination, but how you get there.

[Darthphere]

You know that's gay right?

[Anubis]

Only if you're talking about same sex butt sex.

[TheCorpulent1]

Sometimes, it's not about the destination, but how you get there.
With Bendis' Avengers? Really? The journey's usually either frustrating or annoying, from what I've seen.

[Anubis]

I was speaking in general. As far as Mighty it'll be pointless.

[TheCorpulent1]

Okay, I got you.

[CaptainCanada]

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=137750

Jim Cheung talks about his segment of the upcoming Giant Size Avengers special, with three pages of pencilled art as well, showing Ms. Marvel, the Wasp, and Black Widow looking bootylicious.

[JackRembrandt]

The art looks pretty good to me. On a side note, did anyone see the Marvel Holiday Special preview that was also on Newsarama? The Namie/Red Ronin story looks good, too.

[TheCorpulent1]

Whoa, life for Namie after The Loners? Impressive. I was expecting Marvel to drop those characters pretty quickly given their low sales.

Regarding the Giant-Size Avengers preview: What is it with the New Avengers creators and putting the Avengers' women out by a pool? There was a pool scene back in Avengers Finale, too.

[JackRembrandt]

Whoa, life for Namie after The Loners? Impressive. I was expecting Marvel to drop those characters pretty quickly given their low sales.

Bendis might be the golden child, but Cebulski is literally Quesada's right hand man. I'd like to think he's got at least some pull as far as these characters are concerned.

[TheCorpulent1]

It's a good thing someone in that position is such a huge fan of these '90s characters, then. It'd be a shame if they were forgotten just because a lot of the comics from that period sucked.

[JackRembrandt]

I agree. The Loners in particular have proven that not everything that decade sucked.

[TheCorpulent1]

Slingers is still one of my favorite comics. :up:

[JackRembrandt]

God yes. Chriscross was a favorite of mine back in the day.

[LouFerignoDemon]

Given the angle, I'm suprised for those little scribblings, that they didn't ask Cho to do Giant Sized Avengers.

[JackRembrandt]

Even if they did, I doubt Cho would've said yes. From what I've read, he seems to be pretty burnt out on the interior work/monthly gig.

[Red Mask]

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=137750

Jim Cheung talks about his segment of the upcoming Giant Size Avengers special, with three pages of pencilled art as well, showing Ms. Marvel, the Wasp, and Black Widow looking bootylicious.

Awesome! :word:

[LouFerignoDemon]

Even if they did, I doubt Cho would've said yes. From what I've read, he seems to be pretty burnt out on the interior work/monthly gig.


I couldn't see him going back to MA after he quit MA cause he didn't really think he could do interior stuff at the rate he was doing.

[Red Mask]

I miss Liberty Meadows.

[Kevin]

First look at MA 6. Click to make bigger.

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