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Catman
03-15-2007, 03:07 AM
We should seriously make a list of everything Tarantino has referenced or borrowed for his movies. There's stuff that VERY obvious but then there's stuff you actually have to do research on!

Like, for example, this is where Tarantino got that crazy music you hear when the Bride is about to kill someone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGDa1C4rH10

Ghostvirus
03-15-2007, 03:13 AM
Don't you mean Ripoff. I mean come on this guy hasn't even tried to do something original

Catman
03-15-2007, 03:25 AM
I doubt its a rip-off when you acknowledge what you're borrowing from.

Shuley
03-15-2007, 05:16 AM
I like to see you people come up with something totally original.

xwolverine2
03-15-2007, 05:22 AM
that was sort of the whole point of kill bill.....

ugh...

I_Hate_U_All
03-15-2007, 05:23 AM
That'd be good. Originality in hollywood is so rare, especially these days.

The problem with hollywood today is it's stuck in the past. It really is. It keeps remaking and doing sequels and that's why ghost rider and 300 succeed though they're not masterpieces in my mind. They're just new.

AssMan
03-15-2007, 05:37 AM
that was sort of the whole point of kill bill.....


The Kill Bill movies were nothing new or original. They were simple revenge movies that is it.

November Rain
03-15-2007, 05:44 AM
watch lady snowblood

whole fight scenes are recreated, noticeable scenes are reproduced
the plot is blatantly stolen from it as well as the whole revenge aspect.


i wouldn't mind if it was actually better than it but it wasn't, it was just hollywood showing yet again that when they take original eastern films and try to make them westernised, they **** them up.

the kill bill films are the biggest waste of space ever and i hate the fact everyone buy bill's crappy superman speech which any real superman fan would be able to diregard because he obviously has no idea what the character is actually about and neither does tarantino...peh

Catman
03-15-2007, 06:02 AM
I like to see you people come up with something totally original.

Maybe not totally, but I can definitly be more original than Tarantino. If you want to make an original movie you can just look at your life. We all have similar experiences but we also have something that makes us unique. I always like to use this example: Quentin Tarantino and Kevin Smith both worked at a video store. Yet, who was the one to make a movie about that? When you watch Clerks there's a hundred things you can relate to, but at the same time there's something unique about Smith's experience that seperates him from the rest of us. So, when you watch Clerks you see a great movie thats both original and relatable. When you watch Pulp Fiction you see a great movie as well but there's not one inch of originality.

blud_knight
03-15-2007, 07:06 AM
he borrows, steals and rips off everything. sets it in LA, adds drugs, has everyone say the F-bomb, and the N-word, uses the same 10 actors. and kills almost everyone.
big deal. if you have seen one of his movies you have seen to many

dpm07
03-15-2007, 07:49 AM
I like Tarantino's films, and I look forward to seeing what he brings to the screen. I've never been disappointed in his movies, and have actually used some of his films for required watching at university courses I have taught.

Catman
03-15-2007, 07:53 AM
I like Robert Rodriguez more. I think Grindhouse will prove that Rodriguez is better. HECK, Rodriguez already proved that with Four Rooms. Has anyone seen Four Rooms? Rodriguez's segment was 50 times better than Tarantino's bull s--t of a segment. And, based on trailers for Grindhouse, Planet Terror looks 100 times better than Death Proof.

chosen1
03-15-2007, 07:54 AM
I don't know why everyone is pressing over this guy tarantino.

dpm07
03-15-2007, 07:55 AM
I like Robert Rodriguez more. I think Grindhouse will prove that Rodriguez is better. HECK, Rodriguez already proved that with Four Rooms. Has anyone seen Four Rooms? Rodriguez's segment was 50 times better than Tarantino's bull s--t of a segment. And, based on trailers for Grindhouse, Planet Terror looks 100 times better than Death Proof.

I do agree with you in part. I personally prefer Robert Rodrigquez' movies more, but I think when they work together, they really deliver the goods. I like how they both help each other out to get projects done. That's something that isn't always seen in Hollywood, and they do a good job in this regard, IMO.

Catman
03-15-2007, 08:05 AM
I do agree with you in part. I personally prefer Robert Rodrigquez' movies more, but I think when they work together, they really deliver the goods. I like how they both help each other out to get projects done. That's something that isn't always seen in Hollywood, and they do a good job in this regard, IMO.

Yeah, they work well together but thats not what we're talking about here. Rodriguez is better, but what f--ked him up was that he made those Spy Kids movie and Sharkboy/Lava Girl. But he seems to be in the right track now.

blud_knight
03-15-2007, 08:24 AM
^ he paid the bills, and proved that he can make more than one kind of movie. Kids loved that shtick, and i love his bullets and babes stuff.

Catman
03-15-2007, 08:48 AM
Kids loved that shtick

True

babes stuff.

He was the first to get Salma Hayek naked on screen! :D

Mr. Socko
03-15-2007, 09:15 AM
Completely agree, Catman. I think Rob is more original and his movies are funner but Spy Kids 2, 3, and Shark Boy was complete ****. But I disagree about Kevin Smith, I hate him.

Tarantino has also been criticized for borrowing concepts, scenes and dialogue from other films. [3] For example, the general plot of Reservoir Dogs was borrowed from Ringo Lam's City on Fire. [4] [verification needed] Stanley Kubrick's The Killing is a direct influence on the fractured narrative structure (Lionel White, author of the novel Clean Break which The Killing was based on, was given a dedication in the end credits of Reservoir Dogs) while the idea of the color-coded criminals is taken from The Taking of Pelham One Two Three. The infamous ear-cutting scene in Reservoir Dogs resembles a scene in Sergio Corbucci's 1966 Spaghetti Western classic Django, in which a man's ear is cut off and fed to him before he is shot dead.

The Don Siegel version of The Killers played an influence on Pulp Fiction, and the events of the adrenaline-injection scene closely resemble a story related in Martin Scorsese's documentary American Boy: A Profile of Steven Prince. The line about going "to work on the homies here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch" is similar to "You know what kind of people they are. They'll strip you naked and go to work on you with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch" from another Don Siegel film, 1971's Charley Varrick.

Several scenes from the Fellini masterwork 8½ were directly imitated in Pulp Fiction. The dancing scene in the diner is an imitation of a scene in Godard's "Band of Outsiders", the film which Tarantino named his production company after.

The misquoted bible verse Samuel Jackson recites in Pulp Fiction can also be found in the movie Karate Kiba (a 1970s Japanese action film starring Sonny Chiba, also known as The Bodyguard), which Tarantino has mentioned in interviews with The New York Times and Positif. The title crawl of the movie contains the line:

The path of the righteous man and defender is beset on all sides by the iniquity of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper, and the father of lost children. And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious anger, who poison and destroy my brothers; and they shall know that I am Chiba the Bodyguard when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.

Kill Bill Vol. 1 is heavily influenced by the 1973 Toshiya Fujita film Lady Snowblood. The fighting scene where the The Bride duels as back lit silhouettes is almost a direct copy of a similar scene in the 1998 Hiroyuki Nakando film Samurai Fiction. The Superman monologue delivered at the end of Kill Bill Vol. 2 was inspired by a passage from Jules Feiffer's 1965 book, The Great Comic Book Heroes, which Tarantino confirmed in a 2004 interview with Entertainment Weekly.

Much debate has been sparked on when such references cease to be tributes and become plagiarism. Tarantino, for his part, has always been open and unapologetic about appropriating ideas from films he admires. When confronted about stealing ideas from dozens of movies, he stated, "I lift ideas from other great films just like every other great filmmaker."

blud_knight
03-15-2007, 09:26 AM
True



He was the first to get Salma Hayek naked on screen! :D

and for that every straight man in the universe owes him thanks

Catman
03-15-2007, 11:47 AM
Yes, Mr. Socko, I think we're aware of the quote you posted. But, thanks for posting. :)

Mr. Socko
03-15-2007, 12:07 PM
Basically everything he's made was taken from something else

chamber-music
03-15-2007, 02:10 PM
its like peeps have said already Quentin Tarantino rips off obscure films people haven't heard of and passes them off as his own. Even camera shots and dialogue in his films are stolen.

I think the Kill Bill is the worst movie his made yet.

deathshead2
03-15-2007, 04:04 PM
I always knew Tarantion ripped off stuff. But always be careful who you tell that too. I was almost killed by hundreds of film students for saying that about him. Why must film students treat him as a god.:csad:

Manic
03-15-2007, 04:41 PM
I always see people bashing Quentin Tarantino, but I have a few thoughts...

Has anyone ever argued the idea that Rodriguez is a better director than Tarantino? Ever? I see people make a point to mention that whenever the topic of Grindhouse comes up, but I never see anyone provide a counter-point. I mean, you might as well say "Monday comes after Sunday," because you're stating something kinda obvious. Hell, Tarantino recently said he still thinks of himself as an amateur director.

I don't think Tarantino rips off older stuff, so much as he make 3-hour long homage sequences on film. In most of the interviews I've seen Tarantino give, he sits there and gushes about all the old movies, TV shows, and comics he read/watched in the 70s. Sure, he's never had an original thought in his entire film-making career, but it's not like he tries to hide it.

Why does everyone give Tarantino such a hard time? He's a fanboy who likes to re-create scenes from his favorite old school movies. He's kitsch, and there just happens to be a large number of people who like to grab a bag of popcorn and watch his kitschy movies.

I think a lot of people wouldn't take his crap so seriously if he hadn't won Best Writer for Pulp Fiction. But this was the Academy in the early 90s. They gave Marisa Tomei an Oscar for My Cousin Vinny, for god's sake.

hitmanyr2k
03-15-2007, 05:12 PM
Tarantino has been forthcoming with his "homages" ever since he got called out for Reservoir Dogs stealing scenes from City on Fire (which he didn't admit to from the start). I've never had any respect for him as an innovative director. He's pretty much just a cinema DJ taking parts from other movies and mixing them together. I'm all for being inspired by other films but you have to draw the line when you see a director constantly going as far as to steal scenes shot for shot from other movies.

Catman
03-15-2007, 05:18 PM
I always see people bashing Quentin Tarantino, but I have a few thoughts...

Has anyone ever argued the idea that Rodriguez is a better director than Tarantino? Ever? I see people make a point to mention that whenever the topic of Grindhouse comes up, but I never see anyone provide a counter-point. I mean, you might as well say "Monday comes after Sunday," because you're stating something kinda obvious. Hell, Tarantino recently said he still thinks of himself as an amateur director.

Rodriguez f--ked himself with the Spy Kids trilogy, so there was in fact a point where people said Tarantino was better. But now with Sin City behind him and the upcoming Grindhouse, people are starting get that love for Rodriguez that they had back in `95 when Desperado was released.

Mr. Socko
03-15-2007, 05:25 PM
Rodriguez had to pay the bills. Before Spy Kids, not a single movie of his had ever even come close to making 50 Million.

Spy Kids seemed to give him a boost and the first one was awesome. I didn't get a 92% on RT for nothing. He ruined himself when he made the last two then that garbage Shark Boy & Lava Girl. It was the worst children's movie I've ever seen. An atrocious catastrophic disaster.

Back to QT:

I absolutely hated his distasteful writing in DtillD

Catman
03-15-2007, 05:43 PM
Rodriguez had to pay the bills. Before Spy Kids, not a single movie of his had ever even come close to making 50 Million.

Yeah, but at the same time the budget was so low that it didn't really matter. I'm sure the Weinsteins gave Rodriguez some good cash. Kevin Smith movies don't really make money and he's doing alright finacially.

But, anyway, fine...you liked the first Spy Kids but you just admitted that you hated the two sequels and Sharkboy. So, basically he did two bad movies in a roll. Followed that with Once Upon a Time in Mexico which was good, but kinda disappointing at the same time. We were all expecting something better...you know? And, then he does Sharkboy. So, for a while he wasn't doing as good as people were expecting. I think Sin City saved his career in the eyes of many and now we have the same feeling we had in 1995 when Desperado was released.

Mr. Socko
03-15-2007, 05:54 PM
I agree.

Hopefully he will stop doing kids movies cause they were only a one hit wonder for him.

Y'know, he's kinda changed his style and all ever since he went green screen and digital just like George Lucas. Maybe QTip should join 'em.

Catman
03-15-2007, 09:40 PM
I doubt Rodriguez is done with kid movies. Rodriguez suffers from the "I have kids so I have to make kids movies" syndrome.

jrpstarwars
03-15-2007, 09:54 PM
I like to see you people come up with something totally original.

I agree 100%. I have been trying to write something completly original for 10 years and have made little progree. I have many original concepts and ideas for screenplays but they don't get very far. A completely original work is harder than you can imagine. Why??? because it's like the song sez 'it's all been done before.' Not to mention most studios won't take a gamble on something off-the-wall.

Don't bash Tarantino because his movies are some of the most original works in years. Love it or hate it, he brought something different to cinema. THAT is why people like Tarantino. Quite frankly, although a completely different style and format, I put him up there with Stanley Kubrilk in regards to originality.:woot:

Catman
03-15-2007, 09:59 PM
You don't have to do some COMPLETELY original. Use the example I gave you. Tarantino and Kevin Smith both worked at video stores. And, who made the movie about that? Kevin Smith. And, honestly, Clerks while not being 100% original is definitly 50x more original from a story POV than any of Tarantino's movies.

Mr. Socko
03-15-2007, 11:07 PM
Don't bash Tarantino because his movies are some of the most original works in years.



Haha?

The Dark Defender
03-15-2007, 11:46 PM
I like Robert Rodriguez more. I think Grindhouse will prove that Rodriguez is better.

I've known that for quite a while.

I think Tarantino is pretty overrated, outside of Kill Bill (which Sin City trumps) I was never much of a fan of the films he's directed; Rodriguez Grindhouse story also looks better and more well thought out(not to mention Tarantino lost even more points by taking an utterly talentless hack like Eli Roth as his protoge).

Catman
03-16-2007, 12:11 AM
Tarantino lost even more points by taking an utterly talentless hack like Eli Roth as his protoge.

Yeah, what was that all about?

Speedball
03-16-2007, 12:25 AM
He might not be the most original director in Hollywood, but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy his work.
95% of Hollywood is out of ideas, that's why we have remakes.
At least Tarantino isn't just remaking films because he likes them. He's taking elements from films and putting his touch on them.

Catman
03-16-2007, 01:08 AM
I'll give you that!

jaydawg
03-16-2007, 03:36 AM
I always knew Tarantion ripped off stuff. But always be careful who you tell that too. I was almost killed by hundreds of film students for saying that about him. Why must film students treat him as a god.:csad:

I'm a film student and I hate the guy with a passion. So many fellow students do love him, but I think its rediculous to celebrate a plaguerizing smart ass. I mean, he's a total blast in interviews and I can guarentee I will never know as much about cinema as a whole as much as he does, but still, his films are jokes. Just because he acknowledges he steals stuff doesnt make it an homage. Its still plaguerizism. The fact that people put him so highly up there and then ***** about the lack of originality in Hollywood is a huge oxymoron.

Manic
03-16-2007, 03:41 AM
Just because he acknowledges he steals stuff doesnt make it an homage. Its still plaguerizism.
What if he put endnotes in his closing credits?

I_Hate_U_All
03-16-2007, 03:49 AM
A good analogy to make regarding film is how it's a lot like food. A chef is limited by what's available. He can't go pull some unknown food item out of thin air, but using his creativity can create an original meal no one's ever made before but him/her.

Does tarantino do this? I think in the same sense he finds other people's meals, gets a knife, chops them into bits, puts them in a blender, presses the "mix" button, and VOILA, it's a tarantino movie.

Noir
03-16-2007, 07:40 AM
Who cares if he steals alot of stuff, his movies are good.
I just bought Jackie Brown.. and it seriously makes me want an AK47

Noir
03-16-2007, 07:42 AM
What if he put endnotes in his closing credits?
Like little Wikipedia citations during the film then at the end a list of them?

Catman
03-16-2007, 10:47 AM
What if he put endnotes in his closing credits?

lol :D

blud_knight
03-16-2007, 11:02 AM
i just feel like he is the stephen king of movie makers

jrpstarwars
03-16-2007, 03:56 PM
Who cares if he steals alot of stuff, his movies are good.
I just bought Jackie Brown.. and it seriously makes me want an AK47


'Jackie Brown' made me want a Bridget Fonda.

jrpstarwars
03-16-2007, 03:57 PM
Maybe you can say his screen writing is a bit unoriginal but his filmmaking IS INDEED ORIGINAL. How many movies have you seen shot the way his are?

Motown Marvel
03-16-2007, 04:17 PM
i think this is a new SHH! record for the fastest thread to go off topic. it never had a chance!

tarantino rules!

Motown Marvel
03-16-2007, 04:19 PM
double post

Mr. Credible
03-16-2007, 04:47 PM
sorry, but i dig tarantino... he may rip off this and that, but he doesn't deny it, and he spins whatever he "rips off" into something more original than anything american cinema can put out, and he makes genuinely enjoyable and different movies... at least different from what's coming out at the time. sure, kill bill might be a rip off of whatever japanese lady snowblood revenge flick, but would any of you here honestly have ever heard of that movie otherwise? because truthfully, i've never heard anyone mention it until QT did kill bill, and even then, not until close to a year after.

and eli roth is awesome... i don't get the hate. you jerk-faces complain about all the crappy pg-13 and remake horror out there, and then a few films with some balls and genuinely funny personality come out, and you trash them to... there's just no pleasing some people. they just live to be seagulls.

nocomics
03-16-2007, 05:01 PM
Heh, just wanted to comment on that jason-freddy-micheal video. Very well done..Makes me wanna nother Freddy v. Jason,and Halloween movie remake to come out sooner..
Far as Tarantino, /shrug I like most of his movies. Who cares if he's not totally original. Least hes not remaking movie classics over and over as it seems to be the norm in Hollywood..

The Dark Defender
03-16-2007, 05:03 PM
I love sick, gritty, balls to the wall horror and I think there are quite a few excellent examples of it over the past several years...I just don't think Roth is very good at it. I think his films are bad porn with horrendously unfunny humor, out of place teen sexy comedy cliches as "characters," and horrible prosthetic gore.

I think Tarantino has ability, I did love Kill Bill and I think his Grindhouse should at worst be a fun romp, I just don't think he's good as many make him out to be.

Punch
03-16-2007, 05:03 PM
Robert Rodriguez is a terrible director, he, along with Kevin Smith, is one of the most overrated directors of our time. Sin City was void of any emotion or tension, and just looked fake, and I'm a huge Frank Miller fan.

Tarantino on the other hand is the best American director working today. Kill Bill was a flawless movie in regards to it's intent and it's execution. The only moment in Sin City that felt somewhat alive was directed by Tarantino.(Dwight and dead Jackie in the car)

The Dark Defender
03-16-2007, 05:17 PM
Sin City had a terrific ensamble of characters and had me invested in every story, with heroes that are protective and valiant, and piece of s*it villains that treat women like meat, hence end up being turned into it themselves.
What it looked like was a comic book come to life, it wasn't supposed to look "real."
Sin City had far more emotion than Kill Bill did(or any of Tarantino's work).
I love Kill Bill, but it's hardly flawless. Film 1 is almost all action and Film 2 is almost all drama, it's very unbalanced.

Punch
03-16-2007, 05:28 PM
Sin City had a terrific ensamble of characters and had me invested in every story, with heroes that are protective and valiant, and piece of s*it villains that treat women like meat, hence end up being turned into it themselves.
What it looked like was a comic book come to life, it wasn't supposed to look "real."
Sin City had far more emotion than Kill Bill did(or any of Tarantino's work).
I love Kill Bill, but it's hardly flawless. Film 1 is almost all action and Film 2 is almost all drama, it's very unbalanced.


I disagree. I didn't care one whit for any character in Sin City. I was more upset to see Oren and Go-Go die than Marv. Most of this is due to RR's (mis)handling of the story.

The Dark Defender
03-16-2007, 05:41 PM
The story was pretty strictly adapted.

I felt bad for O-Ren in the anime sequence and watching Go Go die pissed me off because she was the best thing about either film.

Marv was about as cool and likeable as a hero can get, and every character in SC stood out with their unique personality traits, I love ensamble films that can do that.

Catman
03-16-2007, 05:47 PM
'Jackie Brown' made me want a Bridget Fonda.

Yup. I wanted to f--k her in the ass like Robert DeNiro. Its funny cause thats the closest Tarantino has ever gotten to filming a sex scene.

i think this is a new SHH! record for the fastest thread to go off topic.

I have a Hype record! :woot:

Robert Rodriguez is a terrible director

:cmad:

Noir
03-16-2007, 05:54 PM
Yup. I wanted to f--k her in the ass like Robert DeNiro. Its funny cause thats the closest Tarantino has ever gotten to filming a sex scene.



I have a Hype record! :woot:



:cmad:
That'd make two of us.

El Santo
03-16-2007, 08:45 PM
I love people of all races and religions.
I really feel like the world can't afford hating someone, it's just wrong.

Except annoying armchair critics who hate Tarantino and Rodriguez, and use the word "overrated" in every single sentence. Even God would agree it's ok to hate those people.

jrpstarwars
03-16-2007, 09:43 PM
Yup. I wanted to f--k her in the ass like Robert DeNiro. Its funny cause thats the closest Tarantino has ever gotten to filming a sex scene.



I have a Hype record! :woot:



:cmad:
I thought you were going to say that as the closest Tarantino has ever gotten to getting some ass. I wouldn't doubt it though. He a pretty weird dude.

Catman
03-16-2007, 10:08 PM
I thought you were going to say that as the closest Tarantino has ever gotten to getting some ass. I wouldn't doubt it though. He a pretty weird dude.

I heard he was a virgin till his `20s. But, ever since becoming famous he's gotten some p---y. Its one of the perks of being an A-list director. Also, have you seen From Dusk Till Dawn? Salma Hayek puts her foot in his mouth! :eek:

Noir
03-16-2007, 10:12 PM
You want over rated look at My Chemical Romance
look at Micheal Mann
look at Uwe Boll
look at LOST
look at JJ Abrams
look at Green Day

Tarantino is the Proto-family Guy, a guy with a love of pop culture and a knack for homage who has alot of free time and makes some really enjoyable movies.

Manic
03-17-2007, 01:44 AM
In what way is Uwe Boll overrated? Everyone says he sucks.

Dodger
03-17-2007, 08:28 AM
Also, have you seen From Dusk Till Dawn? Salma Hayek puts her foot in his mouth! :eek:

Hmmm....probably the beginning of that foot fetish oh his. Also, Tarrantino is not that bad of an actor. I loved his part in pulp fiction, but he does write the movie so...is not really that hard for him is it?

Noir
03-17-2007, 09:48 AM
In what way is Uwe Boll overrated? Everyone says he sucks.
He is still making movies right? That man will be over rated until the UN issues a decree saying he's not allowed to touch a camera again.

Road Warrior
03-18-2007, 03:07 AM
So, this is Lady Snowblood:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMlONL-BR2M

Elisha Cuthbert
03-18-2007, 11:25 AM
You want over rated look at My Chemical Romance
look at Micheal Mann
look at Uwe Boll
look at LOST
look at JJ Abrams
look at Green Day

Tarantino is the Proto-family Guy, a guy with a love of pop culture and a knack for homage who has alot of free time and makes some really enjoyable movies.
Um...so you want us to look at original things as crappy and things that rip-off original things as inventive and genius? Go to hell. :dry:

Fried Gold
03-18-2007, 11:27 AM
We should seriously make a list of everything Tarantino has referenced or borrowed for his movies. There's stuff that VERY obvious but then there's stuff you actually have to do research on!

Like, for example, this is where Tarantino got that crazy music you hear when the Bride is about to kill someone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGDa1C4rH10That's possibly the most obvious reference that Tarantino as ever used though.

Noir
03-18-2007, 11:30 AM
Um...so you want us to look at original things as crappy and things that rip-off original things as inventive and genius? Go to hell. :dry:
How the hell is Micheal Mann, JJ Abrams, and Green Day original?
Micheal Mann is horrible at directing his movies consist of explosions and zero plot.
JJ... Hmm.. Well have you actually read some of the stuff he has written, he is a good writer but just doesn't deserve all that hype.
Green Day has reinvented themselves so many times and just change whenever they start to fail, they have zero talent yet everyone loves them..

You go to hell, IMPOSTER HOTTIE!!

Fried Gold
03-18-2007, 11:30 AM
The Kill Bill movies were nothing new or original.You are aware that it wasn't supposed to be, right?

Elisha Cuthbert
03-18-2007, 11:41 AM
How the hell is Micheal Mann, JJ Abrams, and Green Day original?
Micheal Mann is horrible at directing his movies consist of explosions and zero plot.
JJ... Hmm.. Well have you actually read some of the stuff he has written, he is a good writer but just doesn't deserve all that hype.
Green Day has reinvented themselves so many times and just change whenever they start to fail, they have zero talent yet everyone loves them..

You go to hell, IMPOSTER HOTTIE!!Okay, Michael Mann has no plot? Did you actually watch Heat and Collateral, or were you asleep while they were on?
Yes I've read JJ's stuff, I like him alot.
If you're gonna talk about unoriginal and overrated, don't talk about Lost which is now being ripped off by every scifi tv show on television, and don't say that QT is original. Because its been proven that he's not.
Also, yes i know i probably shouldn't have told you to go to hell, my bad. And no, I'm not Elisha Cuthbert and I hate this username but its not like i can just change my name that easily (and when i do change my name, it probably won't stay on for that long because the mods can be cruel like that sometimes). :o

Noir
03-18-2007, 12:02 PM
Okay, Michael Mann has no plot? Did you actually watch Heat and Collateral, or were you asleep while they were on?
Yes I've read JJ's stuff, I like him alot.
If you're gonna talk about unoriginal and overrated, don't talk about Lost which is now being ripped off by every scifi tv show on television, and don't say that QT is original. Because its been proven that he's not.
Also, yes i know i probably shouldn't have told you to go to hell, my bad. And no, I'm not Elisha Cuthbert and I hate this username but its not like i can just change my name that easily (and when i do change my name, it probably won't stay on for that long because the mods can be cruel like that sometimes). :o
I've seen HEAT and COLLATERAL, there was a plot but it wasn't exactly the point of the film, its all action. lost is okay but its over hyped..:o

Catman
04-16-2007, 03:11 AM
Hmmm....probably the beginning of that foot fetish oh his.

hahaha! :D

So, this is Lady Snowblood:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMlONL-BR2M

Indeed it is!

That's possibly the most obvious reference that Tarantino as ever used though.

Really? Cause I had never heard of that show! :huh: To me an obvious reference is The Bride's biker coat. It was an obvious reference to Bruce Lee's Game of Death.

Max J Power
04-16-2007, 01:51 PM
He's one of my favorites (as is Rodriguez, since he's been mentioned). I know his movies are basically "best of" collections of other movies, but that's more original than most things out now anyway. And he's a good writer too.