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Chessh2036
03-24-2007, 09:42 PM
In the book on page 236 it says " Peter notcied a chart on different types of lizards in doctor connors office and a anatomical model for a lizard nearby. He considered that rather curious since to the best of his knowledge dr connors was no herpetologist. So what could he be doing with lizards"?

I think its really cool how this is in the book and hopefully in the movie

another cool thing " peter glanced at the flopping sleeve and was wondering if connors was going to try and use lizards to grow his arm back, then peter shook his head and smiled"

THE LIZARD#1
03-24-2007, 09:49 PM
Yeah they tend to do this, I believe the Lizard was actually one of the villians planned for the second movie but thought not because of what a great challange he opposed Peter with and he wasn't mature enough to take on the task.

In the first movie novel when Peter gets fired from working with Connors. Peter wishes the Lizard he was holding in a cage would bite him and turn him into a giant man lizard to see what Peter has to deal with when being Spider-Man.

Thanks for posting this though, i'm not going to read the novel or the game until I see the movie.

thejon7
03-24-2007, 10:01 PM
In the book on page 236 it says " Peter notcied a chart on different types of lizards in doctor connors office and a anatomical model for a lizard nearby. He considered that rather curious since to the best of his knowledge dr connors was no herpetologist. So what could he be doing with lizards"?

I think its really cool how this is in the book and hopefully in the movie

another cool thing " peter glanced at the flopping sleeve and was wondering if connors was going to try and use lizards to grow his arm back, then peter shook his head and smiled"
Good find.
Is this what you mean anyways? I found it in the 'Movie Photo's' thread or something simular to that:
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m180/thejon7/drconnorsscapng9.jpg

Chessh2036
03-24-2007, 10:04 PM
yeah that is exactly what I mean, the lizard would be a gret villian

Spider-Man Luvr28
03-24-2007, 10:10 PM
Wow..You guys...

DSET
03-24-2007, 10:13 PM
Wickkked find

spideyman101
03-24-2007, 10:30 PM
Awesome bro! I seriously can't wait for Spider-Man 4!

... i can't wait for Spider-Mna 3!!! :P

Visionary
03-24-2007, 10:45 PM
If you just sit back and think about it, what comic book franchise actually has fanboys wanting to see a THIRD movie, and yet wanting to see a FOURTH film, as well? By now, most people (fans & casual movie goers) wouldn't even be interested in seeing a third.

I love seeing Curt Connors again in the trailers, it screams THE LIZARD for SM4.

Spidey_87
03-24-2007, 11:15 PM
I bought the novelization yesterday. I liked the scene where Peter thinks that a man regenerating a limb is something out of a "B" movie.

BrollySupersj
03-25-2007, 01:17 AM
I'm now already hyped for part 4. The lizard can no longer be delayed, he MUST be in the 4th movie, no doubt about it.

christpunchers
03-25-2007, 03:38 AM
I hope they can make the Lizard's story really emotional since he isnt a true villian. I hope they dont mess him up since he is one of the classics.

Mr Jide
03-25-2007, 04:30 AM
If you just sit back and think about it, what comic book franchise actually has fanboys wanting to see a THIRD movie, and yet wanting to see a FOURTH film, as well? By now, most people (fans & casual movie goers) wouldn't even be interested in seeing a third.

I love seeing Curt Connors again in the trailers, it screams THE LIZARD for SM4.

There's not much to think about when you're seeing awesome footage on a movie that hasn't been released yet. However, what it does do is, give high hopes for a future installment, especially if it involves a character that most people want to see that has been built up since the 1st movie.

Mr Jide
03-25-2007, 04:34 AM
I hope they can make the Lizard's story really emotional since he isnt a true villian. I hope they dont mess him up since he is one of the classics.

I don't want a highly emotional spider-man movie with the lizard. What I do want is, a combination of stories loosely based on kraven's last hunt from the comics and night of the lizard from the 90s animated series. Each bringing in elements of intense and compelling drama and strong determination.

christpunchers
03-25-2007, 05:09 AM
Well i meant emotional as in you really feel sorry for conners, he doesnt want to be mutated but he cannot help it when he gets angry.

Visionary
03-25-2007, 05:24 AM
LOL, wouldn't that make him the HULK? :woot:

Retroman
03-25-2007, 08:11 AM
There is a small reference in the trailer so perhaps this is true.I hope it is because i love easter eggs like that. (Though it should be noted that whatever is in in the novel doesn't mean it will be in the film)

They wanted him (Lizard) in SM2 as well but i think that was ditched and probably rightfully so.After appearing in 3 movies (he was mentioned in the first) it would seem fitting to have Connors as the next villain.He's certainly what i would categorize as one of the classic Spidey rogues.

craigaat
03-25-2007, 08:15 AM
I still don't think the Lizard could carry a SM movie.

Antrax255
03-25-2007, 08:23 AM
How powerful is the Lizard compared to all the other villians it just seems after facing so many villians just fighting the Lizard would do no justice In 4 the mjain villian should be the Lizard or the Clone Saga

Cinemaman
03-25-2007, 08:32 AM
I believe both Lizard and Electro could work very well in Spidey 4, but I just think there is no need in another film.

shigsy2003
03-25-2007, 11:30 AM
I still don't think the Lizard could carry a SM movie.

Maybe not but a story revolving around the Lizard and Kraven would be awesome. There would be no need to have a stand alone Kraven film, but what better way to include him than him hunting the Lizard?

That would be a great film :)

Spider-ManHero12
03-25-2007, 11:54 AM
this really does give us a BIG hint about the lizard in spidey4. it juat keeps giving me a feel of aprooval that the lizard will in fact be in spidey4 and will without a doubt raise hell and kick the crap out of spidey. not to mentiomn that I'm sure that us fans will be extremley happy when we find out that SAM wants to use the lizard considering he is a classic vilian.

Chessh2036
03-25-2007, 03:47 PM
I think using the lizard and Rhino as villians would work, and maybe throwing in electro in there. I dont think shocker or kraven would make good villains.

If I had my wish, Carnage and Venom would be in Spidey 3, no sandman

The Caped Knight
03-25-2007, 04:55 PM
In the Novel of the second movie Doc Conners was trying to conduct further research on Lizards DNA, When his friend Otto Octavius had come into his lab and interrupted him .(during his talk with otto he mentions How Peter Parker has the potential to be a brilliant scientist, but is lazy .)

THE LIZARD#1
03-25-2007, 05:25 PM
How powerful is the Lizard compared to all the other villians it just seems after facing so many villians just fighting the Lizard would do no justice In 4 the mjain villian should be the Lizard or the Clone Saga


If you want my input and I'm totally being serious I think the Lizard has the ability to kick the S**T out of every Spider-Man villian he had to face. None of Spider-Man's villians have the abilities the Lizard has and thats what is cool.

The lizard is very strong, he is capable of lifting 24,000 pounds *12 tons* while Spider-Man can only lift 20,000 *10 tons*

The Lizard has the ability to regenerate so Spider-Man has to constantly be hitting him in order to bring him down or else twenty seconds later Lizard would be brand new.

Also the Lizard doesn't fear fatigue, he never gets tired and is constantly on the move capable of reaching speeds of forty-five miles per hour. He likes to play with his victims by wearing them down before making the killing blow so they don't put up a struggle.

Also if the Lizard had his limbs cut off they would simply grow back just like a real lizard's. He also has one-inch claws that can slash through concrete.

There are many things that go into play with the Lizard that I can tell you about, he is faster and stronger than Spider-Man could ever be. He also possesses a 6 1/2 foot long tail that has immense physical strength that can whip at speeds of 45 miles per hour being able to crush a human being like a sludge hammer to a car door?

Conclusion:
The Lizard is F**KING AMAZING!!!!

Visionary
03-25-2007, 06:12 PM
Thus is why THE LIZARD is great. ^

It's gonna be cool, Spider-Man battling with the The Lizard one night, and the next morning, he's in class with the teacher who whipped his ass.

Donald Thomas
03-25-2007, 06:17 PM
If you just sit back and think about it, what comic book franchise actually has fanboys wanting to see a THIRD movie, and yet wanting to see a FOURTH film, as well? By now, most people (fans & casual movie goers) wouldn't even be interested in seeing a third.

I love seeing Curt Connors again in the trailers, it screams THE LIZARD for SM4.

Aloha,
Why do you think I've been telling you all these years.
SPIDEY RULES

THE LIZARD#1
03-25-2007, 06:57 PM
Thus is why THE LIZARD is great. ^

It's gonna be cool, Spider-Man battling with the The Lizard one night, and the next morning, he's in class with the teacher who whipped his ass.

lmao never thought of it like that hahahah!:wow:

Spider-ManHero12
03-25-2007, 07:10 PM
If you want my input and I'm totally being serious I think the Lizard has the ability to kick the S**T out of every Spider-Man villian he had to face. None of Spider-Man's villians have the abilities the Lizard has and thats what is cool.

The lizard is very strong, he is capable of lifting 24,000 pounds *12 tons* while Spider-Man can only lift 20,000 *10 tons*

The Lizard has the ability to regenerate so Spider-Man has to constantly be hitting him in order to bring him down or else twenty seconds later Lizard would be brand new.

Also the Lizard doesn't fear fatigue, he never gets tired and is constantly on the move capable of reaching speeds of forty-five miles per hour. He likes to play with his victims by wearing them down before making the killing blow so they don't put up a struggle.

Also if the Lizard had his limbs cut off they would simply grow back just like a real lizard's. He also has one-inch claws that can slash through concrete.

There are many things that go into play with the Lizard that I can tell you about, he is faster and stronger than Spider-Man could ever be. He also possesses a 6 1/2 foot long tail that has immense physical strength that can whip at speeds of 45 miles per hour being able to crush a human being like a sludge hammer to a car door?

Conclusion:
The Lizard is F**KING AMAZING!!!! couldn't have said it better. The Lizard is without a doubt one of the most strongest Villians spidey has ever faced in history. one wack with his tail can send spidey through a wall or two. and then there's Dr. Connors who has a, wife, son which is interesting and I would like to see if they go with that storyline on film. but I just hope they don't make the lizard look stupid and big like a hulk lizard, I just hope they give him the original look and give him every aspect or atleast the important ones when they use him. as for battling spidey, Spidey will probably be almost dead by the time a battle between him and the lizard end. if you look at the comics you will see that the Lizard doesn't hesitate when it comes to beating up spidey and putting him through so muh hell that spidey can't take. and let's just hope one of their battles take place in a sewer(:cwink: ).

Antrax255
03-25-2007, 07:13 PM
good points but will they keep all of those stats for the movieverse?

The Lizard
03-25-2007, 07:17 PM
Dr. Connors studying lizards was mentioned in both novelizations for SM1 and SM2, but there were no references in the SM2 movie to lizards or reptiles in Connors' classroom at all. I'm glad to see a lizard skeleton diagram in the SM3 trailer and it's nice that it gets mentioned in the novelization, but ultimately NONE of that means anything with regard to SM4. The novels throw extra stuff in there for the fanboys but it means nothing to future films.

Spider-ManHero12
03-25-2007, 07:26 PM
That is pure bull**** because spidey will never die and you call yourself spidermanhero12 and your a disgrace. so you want to come into this thread start yelling at me? I don't think you understand that us fans like the fact that the villians are stronger and are able to beat up spidey. but I never said I wanted spidey to lose, I want him towards the end to beat up the villian or knock him out instantly. stop trolling and leave, that won't be long from now.

THE LIZARD#1
03-25-2007, 07:32 PM
couldn't have said it better. The Lizard is without a doubt one of the most strongest Villians spidey has ever faced in history. one wack with his tail can send spidey through a wall or two. and then there's Dr. Connors who has a, wife, son which is interesting and I would like to see if they go with that storyline on film. but I just hope they don't make the lizard look stupid and big like a hulk lizard, I just hope they give him the original look and give him every aspect or atleast the important ones when they use him. as for battling spidey, Spidey will probably be almost dead by the time a battle between him and the lizard end. if you look at the comics you will see that the Lizard doesn't hesitate when it comes to beating up spidey and putting him through so muh hell that spidey can't take. and let's just hope one of their battles take place in a sewer(:cwink: ).

That is how I want it to be in the Spider-Man video game you have no idea. I want the Lizard to be just throwing our assess all over the place just toying with us.

I also think it would be a really cool idea to have the cinteractives be negative ones in the game when they are supposed to be positive so you can get your kicks and punches in. But in mine The Lizard will slash you with its claws PRESS X to leap out of the way, when you do you leap over his head only to get batted to the side by his long 6 1/2 foot tail and fly helplessly across the room like a rag doll!:wow:

There are only two people in this world who could write good Lizard stories and thats me and the other Lizard that stalks these boards. :D

THE LIZARD#1
03-25-2007, 07:34 PM
That is like you want him to die if the villain is stronger.

Dude I have always wanted Spider-Man's demise to be ended by the blood stained claws of the Lizard! I actually have fan-fiction calls "Spider-Man Fails" where at the end Spider-Man is brutally slaughtered by the Lizard.

THE LIZARD#1
03-25-2007, 07:43 PM
Your a disgraced to the series.

Why because i'm not like you and think everything has to be a disneyfied ending? Grow up the world isn't full of daisey's and roses. This world is a f**ked up place where violence is in everyones heart. Nothing is ever like it is in the books where you are happy, bad things happen in the real world and i'm sorry that I want to excersise that in a fictional world. :(

THE LIZARD#1
03-25-2007, 07:49 PM
I said that because you only like Spiderman because of the Lizard so your a disgrace to the series.

lmao okay if that was the case then why do I have Spider-Man posters and movies and taped all the cartoons and bought all of the toys bought every game even though the lizard hasn't been in any of them except for two *Oh wait thats right I got around punching air pretending i'm batteling him*. Why am I anxiously waiting the movie when the Lizard isn't in it? Why am I phsyced about the release of the game?

Why do I buy every magazine that has Spider-Man on the cover, why do I buy the comics even when the Lizard isn't in them? Oh yeah I just like Spider-Man for the Lizard:whatever:

Spade
03-25-2007, 07:49 PM
I said that because you only like Spiderman because of the Lizard so your a disgrace to the series.

THE LIZARD#1's head is on right, which is more than I can say for TKPS. You may want to consult a pediatrician or look into this option...

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/ChibiKiriyama/NoLife.jpg

THE LIZARD#1
03-25-2007, 07:54 PM
He is wrong because he only likes Spiderman because of the Lizard so he a disgrace to the Spiderman series.

how about you read what I posted above buddy. :D

I'm not trying to be an A$$ but dude you don't even know me so i'm a little taken a back by your accusations.

StylishHokie21
03-25-2007, 07:57 PM
How powerful is the Lizard compared to all the other villians it just seems after facing so many villians just fighting the Lizard would do no justice In 4 the mjain villian should be the Lizard or the Clone Saga

He's pretty strong I believe. I think he's stronger than Spider-Man even. In the comics, he was more than a match for Spider-Man. He might be able to carry a movie. As long as they don't use the lizard army plot from the comics, it should be fine.

StylishHokie21
03-25-2007, 08:06 PM
If you want my input and I'm totally being serious I think the Lizard has the ability to kick the S**T out of every Spider-Man villian he had to face. None of Spider-Man's villians have the abilities the Lizard has and thats what is cool.

The lizard is very strong, he is capable of lifting 24,000 pounds *12 tons* while Spider-Man can only lift 20,000 *10 tons*

The Lizard has the ability to regenerate so Spider-Man has to constantly be hitting him in order to bring him down or else twenty seconds later Lizard would be brand new.

Also the Lizard doesn't fear fatigue, he never gets tired and is constantly on the move capable of reaching speeds of forty-five miles per hour. He likes to play with his victims by wearing them down before making the killing blow so they don't put up a struggle.

Also if the Lizard had his limbs cut off they would simply grow back just like a real lizard's. He also has one-inch claws that can slash through concrete.

There are many things that go into play with the Lizard that I can tell you about, he is faster and stronger than Spider-Man could ever be. He also possesses a 6 1/2 foot long tail that has immense physical strength that can whip at speeds of 45 miles per hour being able to crush a human being like a sludge hammer to a car door?

Conclusion:
The Lizard is F**KING AMAZING!!!!

Well said! This is exactly why the Lizard should be in the next sequel. The tail is like a sledge hammer.

darkseid26
03-25-2007, 08:08 PM
DAMN! Lizard is cool:trans: .

THE LIZARD#1
03-25-2007, 08:10 PM
I can tell how you act like because of the way you post.

Yeah okay:whatever:

THE LIZARD#1
03-25-2007, 08:12 PM
He's pretty strong I believe. I think he's stronger than Spider-Man even. In the comics, he was more than a match for Spider-Man. He might be able to carry a movie. As long as they don't use the lizard army plot from the comics, it should be fine.

I think they should because its Dr. Connors way of trying to make the world a better place by giving them the positives of his curse. If everyone was like the lizard there would be no more pain or suffering.

Murder
03-25-2007, 08:18 PM
I can tell how you act like because of the way you post.Some people take the intrenet way to seriously. Cheers!!

StylishHokie21
03-25-2007, 08:32 PM
I think they should because its Dr. Connors way of trying to make the world a better place by giving them the positives of his curse. If everyone was like the lizard there would be no more pain or suffering.

Good point!

Immortalfire
03-25-2007, 08:36 PM
Moving to Sequels...

Chessh2036
03-25-2007, 09:51 PM
man they moved it to sequels, i liked in sp3 lol

craigaat
03-26-2007, 03:07 PM
I believe both Lizard and Electro could work very well in Spidey 4, but I just think there is no need in another film.

I totally agree with this statement.

The Caped Knight
03-26-2007, 03:54 PM
Dr. Connors studying lizards was mentioned in both novelizations for SM1 and SM2, but there were no references in the SM2 movie to lizards or reptiles in Connors' classroom at all. I'm glad to see a lizard skeleton diagram in the SM3 trailer and it's nice that it gets mentioned in the novelization, but ultimately NONE of that means anything with regard to SM4. The novels throw extra stuff in there for the fanboys but it means nothing to future films.

Well lets hope this is sgin for this to happen in the near future .

http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/65/35/69/22/0065356922046_500X500.jpg
http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/65/35/69/22/0065356922046_AV_500X500.jpg

The Lizard
03-26-2007, 04:51 PM
Well lets hope this is a sign for this to happen in the near future .

http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/65/35/69/22/0065356922046_500X500.jpg


Probably not any more of a sign than the Rhino, Scorpion and Kraven figures that are also part of that new Hasbro toy series.

However, I am kind of curious as to where that particular Lizard design came from. It sort of looks like the unused Lizard design from the SM2 Playstation game, but not quite as big or Hulk-like. Since Lizard was originally going to be used in SM2, I wonder if those designs are still out there and being used for this new Lizard toy. I'd REALLY like to see all the unused art designs from the Spidey movies put together on some deluxe DVD or art book someday.

mjbull23
03-28-2007, 07:37 PM
I'd love to see the Lizard in Sm4.. having said that. I just hope they don't go overboard and CGI him to death. But out of all the Spiderman Rogues gallery, he is still after all these years, the most menacing and intimidating enemy in the lot.

Raimi loves tragic figures...I think it's a safe bet to say we will see him in a future SM movie. ...

The Caped Knight
03-28-2007, 09:04 PM
While Lizzy isn't in the movie of Spidey 3 . He's in The video game .

Venom 1988
03-28-2007, 09:11 PM
^^^
Which lowers his chances of being in a movie :(

FNSpider-man
03-28-2007, 09:32 PM
Lizard was one of my faves from the time I started reading Spidey in the 70's, I dont think he could carry a movie, but I sure think he would be a great co-villian. I'd like to see the Vulture make an appearance too!!

Spiderine
03-28-2007, 09:48 PM
I would say his chances of showing up are pretty good.