The Dark Knight Filming:news/pics etc..

[Gotham]

Right on, I look forward to it

He already has some pictures of GPD cars.

[sasquatchs]

In keeping with their hard work they were able to finish a day early and now the entire TDK crew now gets ready to head off across the pond to continue filming at Ministry of Sound in London.
The first scenes to be shot there will be in a night club atmosphere at the sound stage as Batman has come for…well, wait ‘til next summer!


http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDK_Chicago2_AP-says-goodbye_9-1-07.html


A club scene involving Batman was exactly the kind of thing I was hoping for. *thinks of Collateral* Maybe this is the side with Maroni?

That "Super Hero" backslapping comment is grating and unnecessary considering the percentage of info the originates here

[shuut]

Collateral was a pretty darn good film. Almost renewed my ability to like Tom Cruise...almost. Sadly I re-watched "interview" not long after and was reminded just how insanely aggravating Cruise can be. Still, collateral kicked butt.

[shuut]

I agree Sas., this is quite likely that sequence from the sides with maroni...I could see it.
Is there any knowledge of any Londoners watching for potential info, spoilers, whatnot? It has gotten to the point of a daily, or at least a weekly obsession for me at least.
I could go either way with the whole perma white stuff at this point. Yes or no will not decide the quality of this film for me as seems to be the case with many here. Honestly I am more concerned with the overall tone...and from what we've seen so far, the tone is dark, ominous and dangerous. This will be, in my estimation, the best film of it's kind when all is said and done...but thats for another thread.

[Mikesimus]

so their done filming in chicago? :(
if so thanks to all who went down there during the summer and stayed out late to get great spy pics and vids.
I want to really really thank Noirman, he gave us the best and fullest *NO BS* reports.
thanks
and thanks to everyone else who went.
if they film batman 3 in chicago ill be there cause ill be in college and my college is located in the heart of chicago.

I find this particular comment hilarious coming from the man claiming he was one of the Jokers goons, even saying he was in photos and giving fake set reports:cmad:

[Devan]

I find this particular comment hilarious coming from the man claiming he was one of the Jokers goons, even saying he was in photos and giving fake set reports:cmad:
seconded.

[Baba Ghanoush]

I find this particular comment hilarious coming from the man claiming he was one of the Jokers goons, even saying he was in photos and giving fake set reports:cmad:

HAHA PWNED!

[JokersInsanity]

Have you guys checked out my trailer!
you gotta check it out

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oz85gI2gxcY

[jayskate]

A club scene involving Batman was exactly the kind of thing I was hoping for. *thinks of Collateral* Maybe this is the side with Maroni?

That "Super Hero" backslapping comment is grating and unnecessary considering the percentage of info the originates here

I could see Sarah Dunn the ex holyoaks actress whose just been cast being part of this shoot at the club perhaps .

[Axtech]

Have you guys checked out my trailer!
you gotta check it out

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oz85gI2gxcY

Stop spamming that in every goddamn thread.

[Mikesimus]

I could see Sarah Dunn the ex holyoaks actress whose just been cast being part of this shoot at the club perhaps .

Is she really in it? I always loved Mandy :heart:

[rory_bat]

A club scene involving Batman was exactly the kind of thing I was hoping for. *thinks of Collateral* Maybe this is the side with Maroni?

That "Super Hero" backslapping comment is grating and unnecessary considering the percentage of info the originates here

Yeah, that is a bit much. Why can't we all just get along?!

[boatman]

what makes strange this scene for me is that they never continue filming with the lambo crashed, it seem that after the crash bruce wayne is not driving anymore, but the car still working, its not a vital crash for it, so I wonder what happen after they crash, does he changes to another car? does he abandon the car? does he give it to a homeless (lol)?

The picture that the omnipresent Rory_Bat posted of the crumpled Lambo made it look like it was still driveable. Didn't someone hint that there was going to be yet another crash stunt with the car the next day? Perhaps he's hit once, keeps on going, and then there's another crash scene that none of us saw.

Saturday night around 3am I heard a couple loud noises that sounded like an air cannon that they've used is some stunt filming, and this was in the general area where all the filming has been. Except all the other parts of that chase were filmed during the day, so it would be odd if they finished it at night. They have good lights, though.

Still not sure exactly what the purpose of that chase is. We might have to wait 'til July to find out!

[Cowleen]

I went past the 'hospital' today on the green line. Did we know that the pedestrian walkway that connected it and the garage fell on a car? I noticed it was a gold/beige colored sedan. Or it used to be anyway.

[strikezone89]

wait there done filming in chicago?

[Joker'sHenchman]

And so begins the darkness... no set reports... no set pics... no spoilers. Suicide may be imminent. :csad:

[Cowleen]

Also, the signs for 'hospital' and 'pharmacy' were still up.

[strikezone89]

And so begins the darkness... no set reports... no set pics... no spoilers. Suicide may be imminent. :csad:

hey where u live/?
ill come over and we can tortue each other till we get new set reports lol

[Devan]

that's a conversation killer...

[Cowleen]

Creepy is more like it.

[jgc]

Happy (belated) birthday to me
a tdk crew tshirt

http://www.jeremygonis.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/rfkcrew1.thumbnail.jpg (http://www.jeremygonis.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/rfkcrew1.jpg)

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[sasquatchs]

Cool, haven't seen that one. So you went on set in the end? Haven't seen any reports from you :cwink:

[jgc]

Unfortunately I didn't get to make it back up there. Just asking my source a few questions here and there. and tonight, for my birthday (was aug 24) he hands me a crew t-shirt. how awesome. It's an XL so it'll hang on my wall...

[boatman]

Follow-up on an old one, just to tie up loose ends:

the photo metadata says they were taken with a Nikon still camera. Apologies if I'm wrong

That was referencing the remote-control helicopter pics of Hotel 71. Was the guts of an old digital camera and the lens housing of a webcam to control the weight. It was not from ground level, as those things don't have the range. It was out a ways from an adjacent building to get a viewing angle.

A poor decision was to mount it to a little RC car a couple weeks later to try to get some shots of the Tumbler and Batpod in action. Neglected to consider that once it's out of line-of-sight, it's just guesswork as to how to bring it back in. My guess is that it became a pile of plastic debris. If anyone stumbles upon a CF card down there in the gutter, I like to think that the last pic on it is a real close-up of the Tumbler's front tire.

Decided to keep a low profile after that debacle, at least until they left town!

[Conebone69]

Happy (belated) birthday to me
a tdk crew tshirt

http://www.jeremygonis.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/rfkcrew1.thumbnail.jpg (http://www.jeremygonis.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/rfkcrew1.jpg)

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Sick! I'd totally wear those to school

[Joker'sHenchman]

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[DARKxGOTHAMITE]

Happy (belated) birthday to me
a tdk crew tshirt

http://www.jeremygonis.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/rfkcrew1.thumbnail.jpg (http://www.jeremygonis.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/rfkcrew1.jpg)

http://www.jeremygonis.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/rfkcrew2.thumbnail.jpg (http://www.jeremygonis.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/rfkcrew2.jpg)

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bada**!

[Joker'sHenchman]

What does "FTW" mean? and here's a question I've had for a long time. Once TDK actually does come out in theaters what will happen to these boards? Will i still get to see my friends on a daily basis or will everyone just disappear?... lol.

[Figs]

What does "FTW" mean? and here's a question I've had for a long time. Once TDK actually does come out in theaters what will happen to these boards? Will i still get to see my friends on a daily basis or will everyone just disappear?... lol.


A number of people might disappear til filming begins on the third film while others will most likely move into the future Batman sequels thread. Were was FTW used? I believe it means "For the win".

[Joker'sHenchman]

A number of people might disappear til filming begins on the third film while others will most likely move into the future Batman sequels thread. Were was FTW used? I believe it means "For the win".

Conebone69 has it on his text under his name. Yeah, i hope a lot of people stick around, i have grown quite fond of some of the posters here, including yourself FigmanJ. Everyone has a lot of great ideas and opinions. Plus we all obsess over Batman!

[spanish39]

So has anyone salvaged the ruins of the Gotham Genral Hospital yet?

[Cowleen]

I went past the 'hospital' today on the green line. Did we know that the pedestrian walkway that connected it and the garage fell on a car? I noticed it was a gold/beige colored sedan. Or it used to be anyway.

Also, the signs for 'hospital' and 'pharmacy' were still up.

So has anyone salvaged the ruins of the Gotham Genral Hospital yet?Hows this?

[atomicbatteries]

A club scene involving Batman was exactly the kind of thing I was hoping for. *thinks of Collateral* Maybe this is the side with Maroni?

That "Super Hero" backslapping comment is grating and unnecessary considering the percentage of info the originates here

I disagree.

You guys never have any definitive information from the inside.

Why because no one would trust this forum with it.

All your "inside" information always comes from other sources, the the example cited above, and never really from the true inside which is where BOF gets theirs.

Sadly this is a forum of children speculating and worrying whether Heath applies make up or not and who would, if given the chance, publish the entire screen play if they had the opportunity and thus ruin any surprise element the film will bring to the true Batman fans out there. Believe it or not there are fans who have a little more patience and are perfectly content to wait for The Dark Knight to be released next July. I know that's terribly hard for anyone to beleive but sadly its true.

So continue your speculation and look for information at BOF if you want to know whats going on in the UK!

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa HaHa

[DeaDheaD]

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa HaHa
Agreed

[Citadel30]

I disagree.

You guys never have any definitive information from the inside.

Why because no one would trust this forum with it.

All your "inside" information always comes from other sources, the the example cited above, and never really from the true inside which is where BOF gets theirs.

Sadly this is a forum of children speculating and worrying whether Heath applies make up or not and who would, if given the chance, publish the entire screen play if they had the opportunity and thus ruin any surprise element the film will bring to the true Batman fans out there. Believe it or not there are fans who have a little more patience and are perfectly content to wait for The Dark Knight to be released next July. I know that's terribly hard for anyone to beleive but sadly its true.

So continue your speculation and look for information at BOF if you want to know whats going on in the UK!

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa HaHa



WOW!


what did the five fingers say to the face?????


SLAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[typeorocks]

Can anyone walk into the grounds of the hospital? I would like to steal a brick if I could :)

[Cowleen]

Do it! Grab me one too! LOL.

[sasquatchs]

I disagree.

You guys never have any definitive information from the inside.

Why because no one would trust this forum with it.

All your "inside" information always comes from other sources, the the example cited above, and never really from the true inside which is where BOF gets theirs.

Sadly this is a forum of children speculating and worrying whether Heath applies make up or not and who would, if given the chance, publish the entire screen play if they had the opportunity and thus ruin any surprise element the film will bring to the true Batman fans out there. Believe it or not there are fans who have a little more patience and are perfectly content to wait for The Dark Knight to be released next July. I know that's terribly hard for anyone to beleive but sadly its true.

So continue your speculation and look for information at BOF if you want to know whats going on in the UK!

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa HaHa

The "true inside" being you I suppose. Never said it was "inside" info, but we really didn't hear "all the best TDK news here at BOF first all summer long", almost everything came out from extras and onlookers in greater detail already. Some of which I've been "trusted" with, except I don't treat it like it's the location of the Holy Grail.

I'll take a site filled mostly of idiots over an egotist that exists solely to dangle carrots over his readership under the guise of respecting the filmmakers. His forum posts are just comical, he keeps dropping his cards and showing the bluff. What motives do you think he has? If it was about not spoiling it for "true Batman fans", why is he posting set reports and defining what is and isn't a spoiler for people on a daily basis? The smugness.

I'm quite content to just speculate until 08 rather than be teased with "XXXX filmed with XXXX in an XXXX scene. It's going to be great, trust me!". If A.P's censored summaries are the extent of it I think I'll contain my excitement.

Looking at your post history perhaps you should look in the mirror before calling others children. If you really are a crew member you're the most insecure man on set.

[JStorm]

Fight!

[JStorm]

However, said posts are rather funny because I frequent both sites for information/news. I enjoy the speculations more, on this forum, because I have found that these "children" have been spot on.

Don't generalize Atomicbatteries, generalizations makes one look uneducated and callow.

One only ruins any movie if one makes that choice, this forum doesn't make that choice for him or her.

[CrashNburn]

I disagree.

You guys never have any definitive information from the inside.

Why because no one would trust this forum with it.

All your "inside" information always comes from other sources, the the example cited above, and never really from the true inside which is where BOF gets theirs.

Sadly this is a forum of children speculating and worrying whether Heath applies make up or not and who would, if given the chance, publish the entire screen play if they had the opportunity and thus ruin any surprise element the film will bring to the true Batman fans out there. Believe it or not there are fans who have a little more patience and are perfectly content to wait for The Dark Knight to be released next July. I know that's terribly hard for anyone to beleive but sadly its true.

So continue your speculation and look for information at BOF if you want to know whats going on in the UK!

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa HaHa

but isn't this the spoiler section of the batman forum?

[Tournée d'adieu]

I disagree.

You guys never have any definitive information from the inside.

Why because no one would trust this forum with it.

All your "inside" information always comes from other sources, the the example cited above, and never really from the true inside which is where BOF gets theirs.

Sadly this is a forum of children speculating and worrying whether Heath applies make up or not and who would, if given the chance, publish the entire screen play if they had the opportunity and thus ruin any surprise element the film will bring to the true Batman fans out there. Believe it or not there are fans who have a little more patience and are perfectly content to wait for The Dark Knight to be released next July. I know that's terribly hard for anyone to beleive but sadly its true.

So continue your speculation and look for information at BOF if you want to know whats going on in the UK!

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa HaHa

Not that we need another post on Jett or BOF but here I go...

You know, my interest in The Dark Knight and its filming was sparked by the ibelieveinharveydenttoo viral marketing ploy. Intrigued by the appearance of the Joker and how he was to be handled, I started to scour the internet for information. The first thing I came accross was BOF, and I checked it often...but after some time I just needed to know what the hell "XXXX" was in the set report, or needed to know what some oblique hint was about that apparently "everyone" knew.

I just didn't, and don't, see the point of posting spoilers if you're going to be randomly selective. The details Jett decides to give out are at times more "spoilerish" than the stuff he holds back. It's just all so silly.

So what if he has information on the "inside?" All it's useful for is showing how much he knows and we don't. I'm sure we're all really looking forward to a bunch of "reports" from the UK that have barely any content. :whatever:

At any rate, I noticed (especially recently) all the detailed and useful set reports have been posted by members here and not by Jett.

Ultimately, I'm fine with what Jett does, and thankful for what information he can provide. But you and he need to get off this bizarre pedestal where you think you're better than other people for being in the "know" and not divulging your precious secrets. The rude comment in A.P.s report is also a testament to the childishness of this behavior. And that is why I prefer these boards. They're full of people who want to share and speculate about information without any personal agenda of being buddy buddy with film studios and, for the most part, without all the attitude.

[TromaFreak64]

I disagree.

You guys never have any definitive information from the inside.

Why because no one would trust this forum with it.

All your "inside" information always comes from other sources, the the example cited above, and never really from the true inside which is where BOF gets theirs.

Sadly this is a forum of children speculating and worrying whether Heath applies make up or not and who would, if given the chance, publish the entire screen play if they had the opportunity and thus ruin any surprise element the film will bring to the true Batman fans out there. Believe it or not there are fans who have a little more patience and are perfectly content to wait for The Dark Knight to be released next July. I know that's terribly hard for anyone to beleive but sadly its true.

So continue your speculation and look for information at BOF if you want to know whats going on in the UK!

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa HaHa

I thought this post was a joke, but everyone is taking it serious... so now I don't know what to think.

[Figs]

Not that we need another post on Jett or BOF but here I go...

You know, my interest in The Dark Knight and its filming was sparked by the ibelieveinharveydenttoo viral marketing ploy. Intrigued by the appearance of the Joker and how he was to be handled, I started to scour the internet for information. The first thing I came accross was BOF, and I checked it often...but after some time I just needed to know what the hell "XXXX" was in the set report, or needed to know what some oblique hint was about that apparently "everyone" knew.

I just didn't, and don't, see the point of posting spoilers if you're going to be randomly selective. The details Jett decides to give out are at times more "spoilerish" than the stuff he holds back. It's just all so silly.

So what if he has information on the "inside?" All it's useful for is showing how much he knows and we don't. I'm sure we're all really looking forward to a bunch of "reports" from the UK that have barely any content. :whatever:

At any rate, I noticed (especially recently) all the detailed and useful set reports have been posted by members here and not by Jett.

Ultimately, I'm fine with what Jett does, and thankful for what information he can provide. But you and he need to get off this bizarre pedestal where you think you're better than other people for being in the "know" and not divulging your precious secrets. The rude comment in A.P.s report is also a testament to the childishness of this behavior. And that is why I prefer these boards. They're full of people who want to share and speculate about information without any personal agenda of being buddy buddy with film studios and, for the most part, without all the attitude.


That's damn true! If it weren't for all the fans in Chicago we as well as Jett wouldn't have ****.

[jimmy]

Yeah, major props to posters like Noirman and Rory. They are the tr00 Bat-Fans.

[StorminNorman]

I would like to nominate jimmy (JIMMY!) as a tr00 Bat-Fan.

Though I am not sure what tr00 is :(

[jimmy]

I'd also like to nominate Norman (NORMAN!) as a tr00 Bat-Fan.

(FYI: tr00 = "true") :woot:

[Mysterio]

All your "inside" information always comes from other sources, the the example cited above, and never really from the true inside which is where BOF gets theirs.BOF/Jett consistently proves - almost on a daily basis - that he doesn't have any "true inside" connections. most of his material comes second- or third-hand from this site.

[sasquatchs]

Also newtypejuggalo, Boatman, ChicageauxTiger, spanish, Phoenixfaith, Mak, ihavecomputer, riskproductions, typeorocks, Spiral and others. Tr00 Batman fans :woot:

[Figs]

Also newtypejuggalo, Boatman, ChicageauxTiger, spanish, Phoenixfaith, Mak, ihavecomputer, riskproductions, typeorocks, Spiral and others. Tr00 Batman fans :woot:


Damn right!

[StorminNorman]

I'd also like to nominate Norman (NORMAN!) as a tr00 Bat-Fan.

(FYI: tr00 = "true") :woot:

That makes me feel better - though the more I stare at the word tr00, the more and more convinced that the 00's are watching my every word.

I am becoming increasingly paranoid.

That reminds me - the 3rd Batman movie needs to have the Noid. I want to see Nolan's take on that classic pop culture villain.

http://www.nicholaszipp.com/Misc_Toys/Avoid_the_Noid_boxing.jpg

[jimmy]

Oh, SNAPZ!!!

Avoid the n0id!!! Avoid the n0id!

It'll be something like this:

Alfred: "Your pizza is here, mastah Bruce."

Noid: "Hoo-Hoo!!! I've got ya pizza now!!11"

Alfred: "NEVAH!!!"

[hegele]

this is a speculation forum until next summer, they hype is half the fun of its release.

[ultimatefan]

Not that we need another post on Jett or BOF but here I go...

You know, my interest in The Dark Knight and its filming was sparked by the ibelieveinharveydenttoo viral marketing ploy. Intrigued by the appearance of the Joker and how he was to be handled, I started to scour the internet for information. The first thing I came accross was BOF, and I checked it often...but after some time I just needed to know what the hell "XXXX" was in the set report, or needed to know what some oblique hint was about that apparently "everyone" knew.

I just didn't, and don't, see the point of posting spoilers if you're going to be randomly selective. The details Jett decides to give out are at times more "spoilerish" than the stuff he holds back. It's just all so silly.

So what if he has information on the "inside?" All it's useful for is showing how much he knows and we don't. I'm sure we're all really looking forward to a bunch of "reports" from the UK that have barely any content. :whatever:

At any rate, I noticed (especially recently) all the detailed and useful set reports have been posted by members here and not by Jett.

Ultimately, I'm fine with what Jett does, and thankful for what information he can provide. But you and he need to get off this bizarre pedestal where you think you're better than other people for being in the "know" and not divulging your precious secrets. The rude comment in A.P.s report is also a testament to the childishness of this behavior. And that is why I prefer these boards. They're full of people who want to share and speculate about information without any personal agenda of being buddy buddy with film studios and, for the most part, without all the attitude.

On my side, I´m tired of people assuming BOF doesn´t post spoilers to be "buddies" with the studio. I don´t mind a few spoilers here and there myself, but I totally respect someone who wants to keep the movie as secret and surprising as possible for their posters. Just because Jett likes Nolan´s work on Bats, people came up with this thing that he "sold out". If you think so, read all the criticisms he has on their Justice League project, it´s a WB film and he has been mostly very critical of it. And the SHH boards is one of the LAST places on Earth where people are entitled to criticize others for "attitude". There´s attitude - and bad attitude, I mean - here constantly.

[sasquatchs]

And the SHH boards is one of the LAST places on Earth where people are entitled to criticize others for "attitude". There´s attitude - and bad attitude, I mean - here constantly.

Why are you treating the board as a single entity like atomicbatteries? There's 20000 members and each is only responsible for their own attitude

[Seen]

I must say that getting close to THE DARK KNIGHT production for the past few months here in Chicago has been a blast. Seeing Chris Nolan and Gary Oldman up-close was a thrill, as it was to have The Tumbler merely inches away from me. I think the biggest regret I have is not squeezing Nolan up for an autograph or picture when I bumped into him in the parking garage staircase, but at the time, I thought it might have been weird, at least for Nolan, to bump into a fan in a staircase when you're working asking for a picture. I don't know. He seems really nice from people who have actually met him so maybe he would have been cool about it. I guess I'll never know.

Thanks to all of the other posters here for providing amazing set reports and pictures. I think most of us "Chicagoans" will never forget this experience and will treasure it for years to come (at least, until Nolan and Co. come back for BATMAN 3 ;) ).

[Tournée d'adieu]

On my side, I´m tired of people assuming BOF doesn´t post spoilers to be "buddies" with the studio. I don´t mind a few spoilers here and there myself, but I totally respect someone who wants to keep the movie as secret and surprising as possible for their posters. Just because Jett likes Nolan´s work on Bats, people came up with this thing that he "sold out". If you think so, read all the criticisms he has on their Justice League project, it´s a WB film and he has been mostly very critical of it. And the SHH boards is one of the LAST places on Earth where people are entitled to criticize others for "attitude". There´s attitude - and bad attitude, I mean - here constantly.

Well, I think it's pretty apparent that at least part of his motivation to keep things under wraps is to make his site appealing to people within the project so they feel comfortable giving him information.

All well and good, but he doesn't really share the information, not fully, and rarely without a smug air. Like he knows what's good and bad for you to know...and I don't think he ever misses an opportunity to make it known that he knows what's going on.

Studio crap aside (I can understand how the same reasoning can get tiring), I still don't think his motivation for withholding information makes any sense. People are capable of censoring themselves, especially when it's something for pure entertainment value. If they don't want to know, no one is forcing them. If they do want to know, I don't think it makes much sense for Jett to decide what should be leaked. It's a self-appointed role, and therefore it reeks of superiority complex.

And sure he's hard on the JL, but that could be him trying to flex what muscle he thinks he has due to his friendly relationship with the film's producers. It's a bit of a crackpot theory, but we're talking about a bit of a crackpot.

And of course, people have attitude on a message board...but I feel the overall tone here is nurturing discussion while at BOF...

Anyway, it's not like it matters, but let's not forget what crappy comment sparked this discourse. Also, I think this will be my last post on this topic since I feel like I'm spamming a perfectly good thread with unrelated junk.

[Mysterio]

All well and good, but he doesn't really share the information, not fully, and rarely without a smug air. Like he knows what's good and bad for you to know...and I don't think he ever misses an opportunity to make it known that he knows what's going on.clarification: he doesn't have info to share in the first place, and he doesn't miss an opportunity to maintain the appearance that he knows what's going on. he's a humbug.

[ultimatefan]

Why are you treating the board as a single entity like atomicbatteries? There's 20000 members and each is only responsible for their own attitude
Which would be the same as generalizing that about BOF...

[ultimatefan]

BOF/Jett consistently proves - almost on a daily basis - that he doesn't have any "true inside" connections. most of his material comes second- or third-hand from this site.
BOF was dead on on a lot of stuff, including the movie´s working title on set, the Joker´s look and Batman´s new suit.

[ultimatefan]

Well, I think it's pretty apparent that at least part of his motivation to keep things under wraps is to make his site appealing to people within the project so they feel comfortable giving him information.

All well and good, but he doesn't really share the information, not fully, and rarely without a smug air. Like he knows what's good and bad for you to know...and I don't think he ever misses an opportunity to make it known that he knows what's going on.

Studio crap aside (I can understand how the same reasoning can get tiring), I still don't think his motivation for withholding information makes any sense. People are capable of censoring themselves, especially when it's something for pure entertainment value. If they don't want to know, no one is forcing them. If they do want to know, I don't think it makes much sense for Jett to decide what should be leaked. It's a self-appointed role, and therefore it reeks of superiority complex.

And sure he's hard on the JL, but that could be him trying to flex what muscle he thinks he has due to his friendly relationship with the film's producers. It's a bit of a crackpot theory, but we're talking about a bit of a crackpot.

And of course, people have attitude on a message board...but I feel the overall tone here is nurturing discussion while at BOF...

Anyway, it's not like it matters, but let's not forget what crappy comment sparked this discourse. Also, I think this will be my last post on this topic since I feel like I'm spamming a perfectly good thread with unrelated junk.

He does what most of his posters demand on him, almost every time he slips something "spoilerish" they give him hell, and from my experience fanboys are often terrible at self-censoring yet very capable of blaming the messenger for their lack of willpower.

Jett nurtures plenty of discussion, he opens his site for people like myself to write entire articles on bat-related topics, and I know he doesn´t always agree with what he posts.

[sasquatchs]

Which would be the same as generalizing that about BOF...

He's clearly not talking about their forums

[ultimatefan]

He's clearly not talking about their forums

I been dealing with Jett for some time, I exchange e-mails with him, and I don´t sense any "smug attitude" in him, sure he makes fun of hate mail and stuff like that, but who doesn´t? I know from my experience that he can deal just fine with differences of opinion.

[sasquatchs]

Anyway, back to filming. The topic isn't worth any more discussion

[Tournée d'adieu]

I was trying to think of where the bank robbery scene would take place in the movie the other day. It's speculated that it's the opening scene, but there are a couple of things that confuse this for me.

For starters, it seems odd that the robbers would come in through the front doors in their blue car and then miraculously get a bus to ram into the building to get out. I suppose another thug could have done that as an escape plan, but then it seems to go back into a convoy of buses...ah, there's just so much going on it's hard to straighten out.

And then there's the hospital scene...Joker reportedly escapes in a school bus full of patients...is this the scene before the robbery? They would be moving in a convoy at that point...

So I'm starting to think that there are two bank scenes, but that doesn't seem right either. I'm hoping people can set me straight on this one.

[TromaFreak64]

I was trying to think of where the bank robbery scene would take place in the movie the other day. It's speculated that it's the opening scene, but there are a couple of things that confuse this for me.

For starters, it seems odd that the robbers would come in through the front doors in their blue car and then miraculously get a bus to ram into the building to get out. I suppose another thug could have done that as an escape plan, but then it seems to go back into a convoy of buses...ah, there's just so much going on it's hard to straighten out.

And then there's the hospital scene...Joker reportedly escapes in a school bus full of patients...is this the scene before the robbery? They would be moving in a convoy at that point...

So I'm starting to think that there are two bank scenes, but that doesn't seem right either. I'm hoping people can set me straight on this one.

You are pretty much where I am, I haven't put it at all together.

[Tournée d'adieu]

You are pretty much where I am, I haven't put it at all together.

Yeah, I just figure that the two scenes have to be related...how many school buses are they going to feature in this film?

Oh, and then there's the report that Nolan was using the IMAX camera in the Joker introduction (as shown in the released photo). Meaning a scene inside the bank is where we first see the Joker. But after he blows up a hospital? Even if he goes to the hospital after he robs the bank, that's way to early for so much payoff. Again, assuming the bank robbery scene is early in the film.

So here I am thinking that there are two bank scenes, one involving a bus and one that does not.

:huh:

[TromaFreak64]

Yeah, I just figure that the two scenes have to be related...how many school buses are they going to feature in this film?

Oh, and then there's the report that Nolan was using the IMAX camera in the Joker introduction (as shown in the released photo). Meaning a scene inside the bank is where we first see the Joker. But after he blows up a hospital? Even if he goes to the hospital after he robs the bank, that's way to early for so much payoff. Again, assuming the bank robbery scene is early in the film.

So here I am thinking that there are two bank scenes, one involving a bus and one that does not.

:huh:

Exactly, and a bus goes missing according to the sides and the police find it.... it doesn't at all seem deja vu like when the police locate the bus... I mean if they are two incidents which seems more likely, why a bus again... was it not recovered the first time.... are they two different buses... one a school bus and one a correctional facility bus... I need to look into this more and see if I can figure it out.

[sasquatchs]

Seems more likely the hostage situation is a result of the hospital incident, Joker leaves with 50 people aboard the bus according to rory_bat

[Tournée d'adieu]

Seems more likely the hostage situation is a result of the hospital incident, Joker leaves with 50 people aboard the bus according to rory_bat

Hmm...is there any way of knowing if the extras on that bus were also present for the bank scenes?

[rory_bat]

Hmm...is there any way of knowing if the extras on that bus were also present for the bank scenes?

Most of those people were new extras. Others had participated in other TDK shooting days but not the bank robbery stuff.

[sasquatchs]

Hey everybody,

Here's the footage from the SWAT guys being thrown off the skyscraper on Youtube....sorry about the resolution...it was HD until I had to shrink it to YT standards...buggers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5VZ0IBBxOA

Enjoy,
TV

Very nice. Missed that in the mayhem

[Phoenixfaith]

Also newtypejuggalo, Boatman, ChicageauxTiger, spanish, Phoenixfaith, Mak, ihavecomputer, riskproductions, typeorocks, Spiral and others. Tr00 Batman fans :woot:


Aw, thanks guys! :yay: :woot:

[bkey]

In the video of the SWAT guys getting pushed off the building, how exactly does the Joker pull that off. It doesnt look like they are being pushed off one by one. Does anyone know?

[rory_bat]

Yeah, major props to posters like Noirman and Rory. They are the tr00 Bat-Fans.

thank you sir! I am humbled...

[Bishop]

wonder if they're still filming in elstree

[Joker'sHenchman]

I disagree.

You guys never have any definitive information from the inside.

Why because no one would trust this forum with it.

All your "inside" information always comes from other sources, the the example cited above, and never really from the true inside which is where BOF gets theirs.

Sadly this is a forum of children speculating and worrying whether Heath applies make up or not and who would, if given the chance, publish the entire screen play if they had the opportunity and thus ruin any surprise element the film will bring to the true Batman fans out there. Believe it or not there are fans who have a little more patience and are perfectly content to wait for The Dark Knight to be released next July. I know that's terribly hard for anyone to beleive but sadly its true.

So continue your speculation and look for information at BOF if you want to know whats going on in the UK!

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa HaHa
Let's whoop his ****ing ass!

[spanish39]

I think it's funny as s*it personally. Jett can have his spoiler free site, thats fine, he has never done me wrong. Thats his thing to keep it spoiler free, great. Well here us "super hero" kids get some pretty damn good scoops, same case for the first film. We have pictures that are posted the same day they were taken. We have people who are extras giving us info here first. So not ALL exclusive scoops go directly to BOF.

It sounds to me that some silly kid (A.P.) is probably just upset cause someone yelled at him or treated him badly on here once upon a time so he is getting back and the funny thing is some of you are taking offense as he would want you to do, screw him. We know we have good scoops and great pics and those of us who get along do just fine. The bigger man takes it in stride while the smaller man posts crap like that with all these suttle hints of back slapping.

It's all good, I just wish Jett would not approve to post this guys opinions and just stick with the news, thats what we are all about. No matter where you go you will run into some kid or idiot (here or on BOF) who is going to ruin it for everyone and be the guy to leave a bad taste in your mouth for the whole site, this is life on a message board lol.

Just know my fellow Hype! buddies that we did a damn good job here this time, just as we will do for the 3rd film. Let Jett do what he does and be happy and we will continue to spoil ourselves as we wish to do so HOW we wish to do so. We have scoops and so do they, we just spill it out and don't hold back. Don't mind the idiots of the world or you will carry a grudge forever. A.P. is an angry idiot and that is really the bottom line here.

ok time for bed......:up:

[Carnotaur3]

I think it's funny as s*it personally. Jett can have his spoiler free site, thats fine, he has never done me wrong. Thats his thing to keep it spoiler free, great. Well here us "super hero" kids get some pretty damn good scoops, same case for the first film. We have pictures that are posted the same day they were taken. We have people who are extras giving us info here first. So not ALL exclusive scoops go directly to BOF.

It sounds to me that some silly kid (A.P.) is probably just upset cause someone yelled at him or treated him badly on here once upon a time so he is getting back and the funny thing is some of you are taking offense as he would want you to do, screw him. We know we have good scoops and great pics and those of us who get along do just fine. The bigger man takes it in stride while the smaller man posts crap like that with all these suttle hints of back slapping.

It's all good, I just wish Jett would not approve to post this guys opinions and just stick with the news, thats what we are all about. No matter where you go you will run into some kid or idiot (here or on BOF) who is going to ruin it for everyone and be the guy to leave a bad taste in your mouth for the whole site, this is life on a message board lol.

Just know my fellow Hype! buddies that we did a damn good job here this time, just as we will do for the 3rd film. Let Jett do what he does and be happy and we will continue to spoil ourselves as we wish to do so HOW we wish to do so. We have scoops and so do they, we just spill it out and don't hold back. Don't mind the idiots of the world or you will carry a grudge forever. A.P. is an angry idiot and that is really the bottom line here.

ok time for bed......:up:

Excellent post, my man.

I can't believe I'll be in Chicago in two days. I hope they're still filming by then.

[Tournée d'adieu]

Excellent post, my man.

I can't believe I'll be in Chicago in two days. I hope they're still filming by then.

Unfortunately, I believe they wrapped on Sept. 2nd.

But you can still visit some of the shooting locations...last night I passed by the Brach's candy factory on the Green line (the stop is Cicero, if you're interested). It was neat to see the wreckage.

[TromaFreak64]

In the video of the SWAT guys getting pushed off the building, how exactly does the Joker pull that off. It doesnt look like they are being pushed off one by one. Does anyone know?

No idea really... it looks like each is tied to the next in line and thus they pull each other as they fall, but still no idea how it all works and unfortunately we haven't heard anymore than really that video you saw.

[Carnotaur3]

Unfortunately, I believe they wrapped on Sept. 2nd.

But you can still visit some of the shooting locations...last night I passed by the Brach's candy factory on the Green line (the stop is Cicero, if you're interested). It was neat to see the wreckage.

Well, if it's second unit stuff, I could still get a chance to see Nolan, unless he decided to hire a director for second unit this time.

[Seen]

Well, if it's second unit stuff, I could still get a chance to see Nolan, unless he decided to hire a director for second unit this time.

No second unit, and I do think they're done filming in Chicago.

[Tournée d'adieu]

Most of those people were new extras. Others had participated in other TDK shooting days but not the bank robbery stuff.

I see. So in terms of the buses that were used, were they supposed to be school buses or were they labeled as something else? I'm thinking if they're yellow they're for school, but I suppose they could potentially be correctional facility buses or whatever.

[spanish39]

Well then damn! Can we walk onto the Brach's factory? I would drive up from Indianapolis to get me a part of the Gotham sign...hell I would take a whole letter if still exsisted. I don't want part of the building, i want something batman related. Chicgao hypers, think you can drive by and see if there is a fence or a hole in a fence and no security. If the damn thing is closed and in a bad neighborhood then there has to be a way in and out without anyone ever suspecting a thing or even caring.

[Carnotaur3]

No second unit, and I do think they're done filming in Chicago.:csad:

[newtypejuggalo]

Finally back after being almost coma like for a few days......

They are all done in Chicago according to everyone. I ran into Nolan's assistant (also one who helped hook up my photo with him when we wrapped up!) She said they only had 2 days off til filming again and that didn't account for time to get back out to the UK. I thought my schedule was bad.

I do miss the thought of having something cool related to this movie happening almost daily in Chi-town. And it was cool to be a part of it for the last week here. I found out waaaay more than I should know and it seemed like on days when I was in the cop uniform, people were way nicer to you.

[newtypejuggalo]

WOW!! Several days in England and not a peep of whats been happening. Damn those big sound stages!!!!


BTW has anyone been over to the secret Batcave on Addison and Tallman to see what's left over there??

[typeorocks]

anyone near the old hospital...I was thinking of maybe swinging by there on saturday and taking a brick If I could sneak in

[newtypejuggalo]

typeo I have not been by there since the big bang. When I was bomb squad I got to go step up in the rubble in a few shots. There are tons of little foam pieces and rubble everywhere, maybe even by the back fence. Take some pics if you do go up there and go in.

And be careful, to say that is a rough area is an understatement. I know someone who grew up around there and he said the crack dealers were pissed cause of all the extra cops park on blocks surround the area for 2 days. They are gone now that filming is done of course. We had kids throwing rocks at out bus as we went to the parking lot.

[rory_bat]

Wow, things got pretty boring around here. :csad:

Alright, who wants a fun task to do? Well, I need to find a copy of Nolan's vest, lol (the reason will be explained later). I figured I would enlist the help of you, currently bored, TDK fans because some of you have crazy internet detection skills. :oldrazz:

Okay, let's get to it! :woot:

And here is an image for reference (good shot of "the vest" in question):

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1325/1218604356_fc3f9174df_o.jpg

[Devan]

Bwahaha...

[Redd]

And why do we need to find a copy of this vest?

[Devan]

I'm not gonna ask questions....

I'll look into it.

[Luchastyle]

Wow, things got pretty boring around here. :csad:

Alright, who wants a fun task to do? Well, I need to find a copy of Nolan's vest, lol (the reason will be explained later). I figured I would enlist the help of you, currently bored, TDK fans because some of you have crazy internet detection skills. :oldrazz:

Okay, let's get to it! :woot:

And here is an image for reference (good shot of "the vest" in question):

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1325/1218604356_fc3f9174df_o.jpg
a pirate costume shop =D i don't know...i think any men's clothing store with suits and stuff would probably have a 6 button tan vest. or you could even patrol the thrift stores.

[Sam18]

I'm not gonna ask questions....

I'll look into it.

Rory never said thank you

[DangerousInc.]

Ebay!

[rory_bat]

I'm not gonna ask questions....

I'll look into it.

Thank you sir :cwink:

[The Dark Guybrush]

Rory never said thank you

and she'll never have to.

lolz

[pictaker]

From what I saw today, there are still filming in Chicago. I passed by a Motel in Suburban Cicero and they had a white Land Rover and a Black Crown Victoria. They also closed off portion of the street. Not sure if there is a chase scene or not. I have some pictures if anyone is interested.

[RedIsNotBlue]

Nolan has a sexy ass chest.

[rory_bat]

From what I saw today, there are still filming in Chicago. I passed by a Motel in Suburban Cicero and they had a white Land Rover and a Black Crown Victoria. They also closed off portion of the street. Not sure if there is a chase scene or not. I have some pictures if anyone is interested.


That is for Wanted dude. TDK has definitely left the city, trust me. But thanks anyway.

[pictaker]

I dont think its Wanted, there were parking signs that said RFK. Got pics of that too. Just in case someone didnt beleive me.

[TromaFreak64]

Post them then.

[pictaker]

Here you go. But now that I think of it. Could Wanted be reusing RFK signs. I say that because its posted straight on the pole. My apologies if I'm wrong.

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/pictaker1975/DSC01996.jpg

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/pictaker1975/DSC01995.jpg

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/pictaker1975/DSC01994.jpg

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/pictaker1975/DSC01993.jpg

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/pictaker1975/DSC01992.jpg

[sasquatchs]

RFK signs...that's odd

London filming is supposed to be underway now

[rory_bat]

RFK signs...that's odd

London filming is supposed to be underway now


Very odd since they moved everything out of the Old Post Office and the production offices. And I was told by several crew members that they were done as of this past Saturday.

[Super_Ludacris]

Anyone seen the pictures that leaked today? Shows Oldman and Dent and Hall signing autographs on the set

[Fresh Tendrils]

Anyone seen the pictures that leaked today? Shows Oldman and Dent and Hall signing autographs on the set

Where?

[Shoemeister]

Anyone seen the pictures that leaked today? Shows Oldman and Dent and Hall signing autographs on the set

And I can see these pictures where?

[sasquatchs]

Pics from Bruce's Lamborghini crash:

http://i13.tinypic.com/6cyvvpg.jpghttp://i2.tinypic.com/4kef23n.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10728020@N02/1341428123/in/set-72157601907037859/

[DeaDheaD]

Bruce in a car chase?

[sasquatchs]

Sort of. From what I've been told Bruce is following the police SUV containing Gordon and Reese along this French Connectionish road. The black pickup speeds towards the SUV to smash it, and Bruce sandwiches himself between the 2 to protect them. It's Reese that's being targeted, for unknown reasons. He's in the news over something

[DeaDheaD]

Bruce saving the day, very cool.

[Hunter Rider]

Pics from Bruce's Lamborghini crash:

http://i13.tinypic.com/6cyvvpg.jpghttp://i2.tinypic.com/4kef23n.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10728020@N02/1341428123/in/set-72157601907037859/

Sort of. From what I've been told Bruce is following the police SUV containing Gordon and Reese along this French Connectionish road. The black pickup speeds towards the SUV to smash it, and Bruce sandwiches himself between the 2 to protect them. It's Reese that's being targeted, for unknown reasons. He's in the news over something

Sounds like an interesting scene, I'm out the loop, who is Reese ?

[DeaDheaD]

He is the "dirt-getter" for Mr. Engel.

[Hunter Rider]

Mr Engel ?

[sasquatchs]

He tries to blackmail Fox with Batman's identity, so I assume he's got it right. He also has a scene at the TV studio, and Engel the TV host (AMH) announces that he's going to reveal Batman's identity. So it seems Reese is his source, Gordon drives him away from the studio, then this crash happens

[DeaDheaD]

Engel is like a more annoying Kent Brockman, you are out of the loop, where ya been? C. Lee really eat ya?

[Hunter Rider]

He tries to blackmail Fox with Batman's identity, so I assume he's got it right. He also has a scene at the TV studio, and Engel the TV host (AMH) announces that he's going to reveal Batman's identity. So it seems Reese is his source, Gordon drives him away from the studio, then this crash happens

Reese blackmails Fox ? i like the sound of this whole plotline, glad we now know who AMH is playing.

Engel is like a more annoying Kent Brockman, you are out of the loop, where ya been? C. Lee really eat ya?

The Big Dog has been watching the territory for me:cwink:

[DeaDheaD]

The Big Dog has been watching the territory for me:cwink:
HA! I would take a vacation too..:woot: ...The stuff with Engel(if true) should be extremely suspenseful :up:

[newtypejuggalo]

Damn thats weird aout the filming!! I was told they were done. They haven't called me for more extra work!!! LOL!!


I though Wanted was done too, they are supposed to be back in Prague for that one. It could be that Cache movie filming. It was supposed to start yesterday or today. It has Sean Bean from LOTR and Hitcher in it. Supposedly very low budget. One of the PAs I met and that was cool was going over to this one after Batman wrapped.

[bigengine]

I thought you might like to see these.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6535/dsc0530299yr3.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9143/dsc0530599rk2.jpg

[Micah12345]

Looks like axis chemicals.

[Dr Lee]

Er.... what are they?

Pictures i know (Just wanted to remove that responce before it was given)

[bigengine]

Sorry i didnt say..
I posted a while ago about this.
This is the engine room for the fight scene inside the staton island ferry.
Filming in cardington hangers UK.

[jimmy]

I thought you might like to see these.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6535/dsc0530299yr3.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9143/dsc0530599rk2.jpg

Interesting pictures. :ninja:

[Sam18]

Why are the dates blurred out?

[jimmy]

So that WB ninjaz can't trace it.

[Bat Brain]

Sorry i didnt say..
I posted a while ago about this.
This is the engine room for the fight scene inside the staton island ferry.
Filming in cardington hangers UK.

Any idea who's fighting?

[DARKxGOTHAMITE]

I thought you might like to see these.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6535/dsc0530299yr3.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9143/dsc0530599rk2.jpg
very interesting...could someone be taking a chemical bath?

[bigengine]

Sorry i dont know whos fighting, the date was 30th august.

[Killing Joke926]

very interesting...could someone be taking a chemical bath?

Possibly, hmmmmm......I wonder who?:woot:

[Devan]

Prolly batsy and j's goons...

[Mr. Socko]

Looks like....*GASP*

[Devan]

Looks like....*GASP*
I've never seen a gasp...


But it does kinda look like a chemical plant.

[bigengine]

i guess its possible but large chemical tanks are not normally found in ships engine rooms.

[batman44]

Interesting pics.

[Mr. Socko]

i guess its possible but large chemical tanks are not normally found in ships engine rooms.


And billionaire's aren't usually found fighting crime dressed as a Bat:ninja:

[Hole Shot]

Looks like the lower deck of the barges.

[Conebone69]

Sounds like an interesting scene, I'm out the loop, who is Reese ?
Yeah, whos reese

[Mr. Wooden Alligator]

How do we know this is the interior of a ship? :confused:

-Lieutenant Morzan

[bigengine]

Because i built the engines. its the staton island ferry.

[Mr. Wooden Alligator]

Oh, looks nice. :)

Lieutenant Morzan

[bigengine]

Mr bond started it....:woot:

[Bond]

Mr bond started it....:woot:
No, you did. I was merely pondering at the fact that those pictures resembled a chemical plant.

:D

[Devan]

You caused quite a ruckus.

[Bond]

Indubidubly.

[BubbaGump]

I thought you might like to see these.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6535/dsc0530299yr3.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9143/dsc0530599rk2.jpg

This should shut up the perma-white fanboys. :oldrazz:

[Mr. Wooden Alligator]

This should shut up the perma-white fanboys. :oldrazz:

Sorry to disappoint, but that's part of the ferries.

-Lieutenant Morzan

[BubbaGump]

Sorry to disappoint, but that's part of the ferries.

-Lieutenant Morzan

Goddamn. :csad:

[Batman>all]

Sorry to disappoint, but that's part of the ferries.

-Lieutenant Morzan

Is it sad that I thought about the Bruce Wayne scene with Earle from BB when I read the "sorry to disappoint"?

[BubbaGump]

Is it sad that I thought about the Bruce Wayne scene with Earle from BB when I read the "sorry to disappoint"?

We're all sad here at SHH. :csad:

[jtfaria]

i guess its possible but large chemical tanks are not normally found in ships engine rooms.

Big runs a tight ship.

[sasquatchs]

I thought you might like to see these.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6535/dsc0530299yr3.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9143/dsc0530599rk2.jpg


This is the engine room for the fight scene inside the staton island ferry.
Filming in cardington hangers UK.


Nice work. Should be a decent scene, last one with the Joker maybe?

[Luchastyle]

I thought you might like to see these.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6535/dsc0530299yr3.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9143/dsc0530599rk2.jpg
nice. a kickass boiler room brawl would be pretty cool.

[dark_b]

that looks to me where joker will get the perma white skin.

[jayskate]

Cool engine room , big engine . Thats sweet that they sent you pictures to show you where your engines ended up in the set . Now if you could just ask the photographer to er pan around the hanger and see if theres a fairground set in there too , that would be awesome .lol .

The hanger doors were open about two weeks ago , but as usual the hanger is so vast , all you could see is total darkness .Doh !

[Oryon]

Instead of Red Hood, maybe we'll see the Joker diving head first into a vat of acid to escape.

[SantoAnderson]

Errr, that would be too eerily similar to the Joker creation in Batman 89, hell the set looks the same. I see it and I think "Hey Eckhart! Think about the future!" And then I wonder why the Joker is calling Two Face by his real name...

But seriously, I just hope if they do the acid thing, they do it somewhere else in a way we haven't seen before, and that this set is just for a fight scene. Seems like it'd make for interesting combat with all the obstructions.

[KnightOfGotham]

what kind of fight will there be in the engine room? i dont't think of batman entering the ferry....

[The Empire Ape]

the idea that the joker first uses make-up and THEN falls into chemicals and gets his perma-white-skin is just STU-PID.

[SantoAnderson]

Agreed.

[Juggernaut33]

the idea that the joker first uses make-up and THEN falls into chemicals and gets his perma-white-skin is just STU-PID.

You are dead right.

[Mr. Socko]

I agree as well. He either applies makeup or is bleached. Both just wouldn't work, pretty dumb idea. That would also ruin the character to me, but I'll stop here as this isn't the right place.

[The Squirrel]

I agree as well. He either applies makeup or is bleached. Both just wouldn't work, pretty dumb idea. That would also ruin the character to me, but I'll stop here as this isn't the right place.

What if he applies makeup and then gets bleached, leaving the makeup scarred onto him?

[The Empire Ape]

What if he applies makeup and then gets bleached, leaving the makeup scarred onto him?

this is egg-cactly what we are discussing.

It's just dumb. What is it? Does Nolan try to show us "his" vision* of the Joker and give us the comic Joker later? No, I do not like the make-up thing, but to mix them is madness.

The only way this could work is if the Joker actually searches a way to make himself perma-white, but then again it's just unnecessary.

*(this "it is his vision" thing is strange. if I make Batman a gay cow, would this be my vision? :huh: )

[dark_b]

the idea that the joker first uses make-up and THEN falls into chemicals and gets his perma-white-skin is just STU-PID.no no not stupid. it would be on the same level as uwe boll.
i would lost every faith in nolan.

[The Squirrel]

this is egg-cactly what we are discussing.

It's just dumb. What is it? Does Nolan try to show us "his" vision* of the Joker and give us the comic Joker later? No, I do not like the make-up thing, but to mix them is madness.

The only way this could work is if the Joker actually searches a way to make himself perma-white, but then again it's just unnecessary.

*(this "it is his vision" thing is strange. if I make Batman a gay cow, would this be my vision? :huh: )


Sry. I didn't really read the thread that closely.

[RKO]

When I saw those pics I thought it was the exact same set as Bat'89.


"Hey Eckhart, think about the future!"


I got that scene burn in my skull.

[Golgo-13]

So have the started shooting overseas yet?

[regwec]

Hello everyone! I've been away for almost three weeks, and now sport a respectable sun tan and a more relaxed demeanor. Have I missed much, in news or pictures? Thanks in advance!

[Nepenthes]

more relaxed demeanor, heh. we'll see how long that lasts

Joker and his goons did the rifle salute at Loebs funeral. then they try and kill the Mayor, pandemonium enuses
Zachs candy factory blew up, standing in as Gotham Central Hospital. lots of panic as people evacuate
Joker was seen wearing a pink nurses uniform
i think that's it for the latest

[regwec]

Joker was seen wearing a pink nurses uniform

I've lost my nose for sarcasm, but...you're not serious?

[TromaFreak64]

I've lost my nose for sarcasm, but...you're not serious?

He is serious... it's what he wears when he blows up the hospital.

[Matrixo]

Its like a track suit tho right?

[Nepenthes]

no, serious. with bare legs showing! he escapes on a school bus full of patients. rory_bat had a nice report, he was an extra


the hospital
dhIjGxW-FvI

[Shoemeister]

Its like a track suit tho right?

No, I'm pretty sure it's actually a pink nurse's uniform (complete with wacky socks, of course...)

[regwec]

no, serious. with bare legs showing!

Aha! White legs or pink, etc.

[TromaFreak64]

....I'm more confused on why people think Joker is IN the Ferry scene at all -- this is clearly part of the engine and people are talking about how he could be made perma-white there, but if you rigged two ferries to blow up, and left switches to blow them up on the opposite ferry - why would you be on EITHER ferry???

[Nepenthes]

^ it also seems redundant as well. the scene will be more tense without an obligatory show-down happening in addition. Maybe Joker uses the diversion as a get away, this being after he's escaped from jail. Batman chases Joker leaving Gordon and Dent to deal with the ferries


Aha! White legs or pink, etc.

ha sorry no, if they were white that WOULD be big news

[TromaFreak64]

^ it also seems redundant as well. the scene will be more tense without an obligatory show-down happening in addition. Maybe Joker uses the diversion as a get away, this being after he's escaped from jail. Batman chases Joker leaving Gordon and Dent to deal with the ferries

Sounds plausible but Dent will have already been scarred by the scene when the ferry takes place according to the cast call sheets. Not long before, but before none the less.

I think that is what has lead to some speculation that the ferry thing may not even be Joker's after all, and that might be part of the twist... again that is just what people are speculating with this evidence and the fact that Two Face for some reason likes crimes with two, and a choice.

[Nepenthes]

Sounds plausible but Dent will have already been scarred by the scene when the ferry takes place according to the cast call sheets. Not long before, but before none the less.

I think that is what has lead to some speculation that the ferry thing may not even be Joker's after all, and that might be part of the twist... again that is just what people are speculating with this evidence and the fact that Two Face for some reason likes crimes with two, and a choice.

hhmm did not realize that

definitely suspicious

[ultimatefan]

It´s gonna be a long wait till december... I wish we were getting more stuff from the London shooting...

[donk70]

The Joker wearing a pink nurses outfit sounds so Schumacher to me

[Gianakin_]

How so?

[donk70]

How so?
Because it sounds like something out of BF and B&R.

[Gianakin_]

Yes, but in what way? The psychotic and twisted aspect of hospitals and asylums (and thus nurses ets.) is classical stuff. Where in BF or B&R did something like this happen?

[TromaFreak64]

well a cross dressing joker to me sounds like something out of Arkham Asylum: A serious house on serious earth -- arguably one of the best Batman graphic novels. Definitely in the top 5.

[donk70]

Yes, but in what way? The psychotic and twisted aspect of hospitals and asylums (and thus nurses ets.) is classical stuff. Where in BF or B&R did something like this happen?
In a way that it's campy.:whatever:

Where in Batman #1 and TLH (2 books that Nolan has stated that were his inpiration for this film) did the Joker cross dress?

[donk70]

well a cross dressing joker to me sounds like something out of Arkham Asylum: A serious house on serious earth -- arguably one of the best Batman graphic novels. Definitely in the top 5.
Maybe in your top 5, but not mine

[dark_b]

How so?when you think about a campy batman you think about schumacher. and obviously joker in a women dress is 100% camp.but that will not happen.

[Gianakin_]

In a way that it's campy.:whatever:

Where in Batman #1 and TLH (2 books that Nolan has stated that were his inpiration for this film) did the Joker cross dress?

Nowhere. But inspiration is different than direct translation. The Flass intergoation scene was from Haunted Knight, which (I think) was not one of the oficial inspiration sources, so what does that tell you?
And Schumacher's "psychotic" translates in "queer". You really think after you've witnessed BB's style and tone that we'll get something like that?

[Gianakin_]

when you think about a campy batman you think about schumacher. and obviously joker in a women dress is 100% camp.but that will not happen.

I'd argue the "obviously" part of your phrase. I'm talking in context of the BB tone, not the idea itself.

[dark_b]

I'd argue the "obviously" part of your phrase. I'm talking in context of the BB tone, not the idea itself.are we talking about the same stuff? a joker in a nurse dress is 100% idiotic camp.

[donk70]

I'd argue the "obviously" part of your phrase. I'm talking in context of the BB tone, not the idea itself.
This isn't BB, this is TDK. Please keep your "tone" argument relative to the current movie that is filming.

[metalhead971]

Yeah, if Joker has a platoon of nurse goons with him that are holding up a hospital or something. I'm sure in the context of TDK Heath will make it creepy and psychotic.

[Joker773]

hey, this is proably a wothless thread but is their anyone that can get some pics of the hong kong filming?

[Gianakin_]

This isn't BB, this is TDK. Please keep your "tone" argument relative to the current movie that is filming.

But it's the same director and crew. Are you thinking they'll go for a 180 degree turn? If the past tought us something about tone, it's that dark became darker (Burton) and bright became brighter (You-know-who). All evindece leads to darker in this one, too. Jack Nicholson's camp in B89 was dark in itself.

[TromaFreak64]

Maybe in your top 5, but not mine

Regardless of your opinion, it makes the majority of the list, and it's the highest selling Batman Graphic Novel, and until a couple years ago it as DC's highest selling graphic novel - plus it made IGN's list of 25 greatest Batman Graphic Novels... again in the top 5.

So regardless of YOUR opinion, it typically ranks up there, and thus it is fair grounds to appease most Batman fans. Regardless if you think it is campy or Arkham Asylum is campy... the majority of people are therefore NOT going to, and it sort of HURTS your Joel argument since it comes from direct source material.

[Gianakin_]

are we talking about the same stuff? a joker in a nurse dress is 100% idiotic camp.

A question that will clarify things, hopefully: Did you find the idea of cross-dressing with a wedding gown 100% idiotic camp in the Arkham Asylum novel?

[donk70]

Nowhere. But inspiration is different than direct translation. The Flass intergoation scene was from Haunted Knight, which (I think) was not one of the oficial inspiration sources, so what does that tell you?
And Schumacher's "psychotic" translates in "queer". You really think after you've witnessed BB's style and tone that we'll get something like that?
Why are you bringing it up in a sexual pervese content? Do not lower the intelligence of this debate by throwing in some biggoted term.

I mean it's campy as in going for cheap laughs. I could see the Joker wearing some tourist get up (a'la TKJ) or even a deranged clown outfit. But I cannot see a "darker" Joker wearing a nurses get up in Nolan's Batman mythos.

[dark_b]

Yeah, if Joker has a platoon of nurse goons with him that are holding up a hospital or something. I'm sure in the context of TDK Heath will make it creepy and psychotic.are we talking something like this?
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/11/nurse141106_330x450.jpg

or this?
http://www.nursejobshop.com/images/nurse.jpg

if we are tlaking about the first pic whihc is a 100% women dress then there is nooo way that nolan or heat can make it look creepy.

[TromaFreak64]

when you think about a campy batman you think about schumacher. and obviously joker in a women dress is 100% camp.but that will not happen.

So not a fan of Morrison or Miller I guess?

[Gianakin_]

I mean it's campy as in going for cheap laughs. I could see the Joker wearing some tourist get up (a'la TKJ) or even a deranged clown outfit. But I cannot see a "darker" Joker wearing a nurses get up in Nolan's Batman mythos.

I'm sorry you don't. I, in turn, don't see it going for cheap laughs.

[dark_b]

So not a fan of Morrison or Miller I guess?if i am a fan of comics that are 90% different then a movie?
some stuff that works in comics doesn work in a movie.

[TromaFreak64]

Why are you bringing it up in a sexual pervese content? Do not lower the intelligence of this debate by throwing in some biggoted term.

I mean it's campy as in going for cheap laughs. I could see the Joker wearing some tourist get up (a'la TKJ) or even a deranged clown outfit. But I cannot see a "darker" Joker wearing a nurses get up in Nolan's Batman mythos.

So why don't you just admit it - you're not going to accept anything unless the source material for it is one of YOUR favorite Batman stories.

So TKJ again typically in the top 5 with Asylum on almost ALL polls - is acceptable source material to have the joker wear a tourist outfit, but not to cross dress ... both are for laughs and to show the character is deranged, yet one is acceptable to you because you like the TKJ and the other isn't because you don't like AA:ASHSE????

[TromaFreak64]

if i am a fan of comics that are 90% different then a movie?
some stuff that works in comics doesn work in a movie.

Agreed, but you people are saying something is camp before you EVEN see it which showcases arrogance.

[Baba Ghanoush]

I don't know if there are any hypesters that live in Hong Kong so I wouldn't be holding my breath.

[metalhead971]

What's not creepy about a psycho planting a bomb and then skipping away with a smile on his face in a nurse's uniform? Just cuz some chick doesn't look creepy in it doesn't mean that a guy with a scarred face won't look psychotic...

[donk70]

Regardless of your opinion, it makes the majority of the list, and it's the highest selling Batman Graphic Novel, and until a couple years ago it as DC's highest selling graphic novel - plus it made IGN's list of 25 greatest Batman Graphic Novels... again in the top 5.

So regardless of YOUR opinion, it typically ranks up there, and thus it is fair grounds to appease most Batman fans. Regardless if you think it is campy or Arkham Asylum is campy... the majority of people are therefore NOT going to, and it sort of HURTS your Joel argument since it comes from direct source material.
Thanks for best sellers list update. Like this offers any credence to the current debate of The Joker wearing a nurses outfit.:whatever:
So regardless of YOUR argument, Nolan has said that his inpiration comes from TLH and Batman #1. Again, show me were in these 2 stories that the Joker wears a campy nurses outfit?

[TromaFreak64]

are we talking something like this?
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/11/nurse141106_330x450.jpg

if we are tlaking about the first pic whihc is a 100% women dress then there is nooo way that nolan or heat can make it look creepy.

We are talking this one... and in your other post you said this wouldn't happen - well sorry if you haven't been here the last few weeks BUT IT DID HAPPEN ALREADY.

[TromaFreak64]

Thanks for best sellers list update. Like this offers any credence to the current debate of The Joker wearing a nurses outfit.:whatever:
So regardless of YOUR argument, Nolan has said that his inpiration comes from TLH and Batman #1. Again, show me were in these 2 stories that the Joker wears a campy nurses outfit?

I guess in BB, the scene with Flass never happened since it occurred in Haunted Knight and he didn't list that as an inspiration. :whatever:

[donk70]

Agreed, but you people are saying something is camp before you EVEN see it which showcases arrogance.
And you're saying it's not, even before you've seen in what context it's portrayed, so who's more arrogant?

[metalhead971]

There's more reason to believe it won't be, based on BB. Unless you're bold enough to say BB was actually campy at any point.

[Gianakin_]

So regardless of YOUR argument, Nolan has said that his inpiration comes from TLH and Batman #1. Again, show me were in these 2 stories that the Joker wears a campy nurses outfit?

But inspiration doesn't indicate that you follow just the material you've inspired from. It's too open a word and I think you're seeing it in the opposite way.

[donk70]

I guess in BB, the scene with Flass never happened since it occurred in Haunted Knight and he didn't list that as an inspiration. :whatever:
No, but Flass wasn't in a nurses outfit either :whatever:

[TromaFreak64]

And you're saying it's not, even before you've seen in what context it's portrayed, so who's more arrogant?

I didn't say it wasn't campy... I'm just NOT passing judgment and giving source material - read before you post - I haven't seen it yet.

Please go back and read over, I'm mocking your arguments that tourist equals okay because it is in YOUR favorite source material and retro-fitting it with the logical argument every other fan is going to use.

Apparently, the irony of this was lost on you, but re-read for your own benefit , I never said IT'S NOT CAMPY because I haven't seen it.

[TromaFreak64]

No, but Flass wasn't in a nurses outfit either :whatever:

You are digging yourself in a bigger hole by picking and choosing what to acknowledge.

[dark_b]

Agreed, but you people are saying something is camp before you EVEN see it which showcases arrogance.look i will admit that i am wrong. i always had ok?
if i will like it i will writte that in september i found the idea mega idioitc but after i saw the movie i changed my mind.

but the movie is not out and i think that the idea is idiotic because no matter how the story is written,the joker in a nurse dress will look in TDK like the joker in a nurse dress. he will look like a guy in a womens dress

[Muziko]

Just because Nolan is drawing inspiration from those stories...doesn't mean that other elements cannot be written into the film... or that other comic book sources can't be used as inspiration. Joker doesn't wear a nurse's outfit in either of those two comics, but having a scene like the one we're discussing doesn't mean that it's bad just because it isn't found in TLH or Batman #1. Besides... we don't even know how it's going to end up looking on screen - so it's a little premature to be judging it as "campy" or even "creepy" for that matter.

[donk70]

But inspiration doesn't indicate that you follow just the material you've inspired from. It's too open a word and I think you're seeing it in the opposite way.
What I'm seeing is a rumor of the Joker wearing a nurses outfit, which is camp to me. Might as well give him the cheesy Jokermobile from the 60's tv show as well

[dark_b]

We are talking this one... and in your other post you said this wouldn't happen - well sorry if you haven't been here the last few weeks BUT IT DID HAPPEN ALREADY.well i dont belive it. :dry:
you know how much stuff in on the internet every week? not everything is true.

[metalhead971]

Question: Was Buffalo Bill campy when he cross-dressed in SOTL? I can definitely say I didn't think so.

[TromaFreak64]

look i will admit that i am wrong. i always had ok?
if i will like it i will writte that in september i found the idea mega idioitc but after i saw the movie i changed my mind.

but the movie is not out and i think that the idea is idiotic because no matter how the story is written,the joker in a nurse dress will look in TDK like the joker in a nurse dress. he will look like a guy in a womens dress

I can accept this... and i think he is supposed to look like a man dressed in a woman's dress - i imagine it sort of supposed to be funny and twist, but I don't know, but I understand where you are coming from with what you are saying.

[dark_b]

I can accept this... and i think he is supposed to look like a man dressed in a woman's dress - i imagine it sort of supposed to be funny and twist, but I don't know, but I understand where you are coming from with what you are saying.thank you.

plus if this is true then it would explain what nolan said months ago. he said that he wants to make with TDK a complete different movei then BB.
this would be then true because this tone is not the same from BB.

[TromaFreak64]

Question: Was Buffalo Bill campy when he cross-dressed in SOTL? I can definitely say I didn't think so.

Lots of scary cross dressers in the world and in cinema. Norman Bates, Buffalo Bill, Ed Gien, Leatherface, etc.

But I understand where the people who are AFRAID it may come off as campy are coming from I just don't accept the judgment that is automatically IS campy even though we haven't seen it yet.

Unless you were there at filming and thought it was campy it is another thing, but no one there has come out and said that... all who have spoken to us truly thought it was creepy.

[donk70]

You are digging yourself in a bigger hole by picking and choosing what to acknowledge.
Lets throw the whole reference to what is inspiration and what isn't away.

Now, how can you say that the Joker wearing a nurses outfit is not campy? I offered my argument as to why, but you didn't care for it. So tell me why I'm wrong to say that it's campy?

[Gianakin_]

What I'm seeing is a rumor of the Joker wearing a nurses outfit, which is camp to me. Might as well give him the cheesy Jokermobile from the 60's tv show as well

I don't find this relevant with what you quoted of me. I was answering your post about inspiration and how the Joker cross-dressing is not from the comics Nolan has stated he is inspired from, and you answer something else. I'm not saying it won't be campy, I'm not saying it will be, either. But I started this debate because you stated it reminds you of Schumacher, which I found too strong a statement, that is all.
Now how about the inspiration-related argument?

[donk70]

Lots of scary cross dressers in the world and in cinema. Norman Bates, Buffalo Bill, Ed Gien, Leatherface, etc.

But I understand where the people who are AFRAID it may come off as campy are coming from I just don't accept the judgment that is automatically IS campy even though we haven't seen it yet.

Unless you were there at filming and thought it was campy it is another thing, but no one there has come out and said that... all who have spoken to us truly thought it was creepy.
So then why are you defending that it's not campy when you didn't see it either???

[TromaFreak64]

Lets throw the whole reference to what is inspiration and what isn't away.

Now, how can you say that the Joker wearing a nurses outfit is not campy? I offered my argument as to why, but you didn't care for it. So tell me why I'm wrong to say that it's campy?

I'm not going to answer that, I HAVEN'T seen the Joker in the outfit yet, I'm just not going to call ANYTHING campy until I've seen it.

But there is plenty of source material for sinister cross dressers in general, but I have no idea how that would apply to this film, none.

I'm simply not passing judgment until I see something and keeping an open mind - you are passing judgment before you see something and encouraging others to do the same.

[donk70]

I don't find this relevant with what you quoted of me. I was answering your post about inspiration and how the Joker cross-dressing is not from the comics Nolan has stated he is inspired from, and you answer something else. I'm not saying it won't be campy, I'm not saying it will be, either. But I started this debate because you stated it reminds you of Schumacher, which I found too strong a statement, that is all.
Now how about the inspiration-related argument?

Ok, then show me a pic of the Joker in a dress from the two comics that he said he was inspired by

[TromaFreak64]

So then why are you defending that it's not campy when you didn't see it either???

Go back and find somewhere I defended specifically the JOKER CROSS DRESSING in this film, and DIDN'T DEFEND the idea of holding judgment.

I haven't seen it, I can't defend something I haven't seen... I simply made fun of the idea that you could pass judgment on something you HAVEN'T seen yet and be so confident with it.

Never did I say "Joker looks sinister when he cross dresses in this film" where you said specifically "it is campy"... you implied somehow you knew, no matter what, it is campy.

I'm simply defending the idea of holding judgment - you are defending the idea of it is CAMPY no matter what.

[donk70]

I'm not going to answer that, I HAVEN'T seen the Joker in the outfit yet, I'm just not going to call ANYTHING campy until I've seen it.

But there is plenty of source material for sinister cross dressers in general, but I have no idea how that would apply to this film, none.

I'm simply not passing judgment until I see something and keeping an open mind - you are passing judgment before you see something and encouraging others to do the same.
How am I encouraging others to do the same? I posted my opinion on a message board just like you are and suddenly I'm a villain because I dare to question something the the "Great" Nolan has filmed for his movie.

People are free to think what they want, as are you and as are I. Show me where I have encouraged anyone to think what I think? Hell, I was even called arrogant for saying that I thought the look was campy.

[TromaFreak64]

I don't find this relevant with what you quoted of me. I was answering your post about inspiration and how the Joker cross-dressing is not from the comics Nolan has stated he is inspired from, and you answer something else. I'm not saying it won't be campy, I'm not saying it will be, either. But I started this debate because you stated it reminds you of Schumacher, which I found too strong a statement, that is all.
Now how about the inspiration-related argument?

The whole time you and I have been on the side of SAVE judgment until you see something and don't make bold claims about something you haven't seen yet (like Donk) is doing?

Yet somehow he views everything we say as DEFENSE for something we haven't seen yet... I'm glad you're still following but how is this poster SO confused.

Neither of us ever said we flat out support the idea or it looks great, we simply gave source material that would justify this and ways it could be done right but never assumed we knew it WAS done right. Yet Donk is stating it is CAMPY regardless of what the poster has seen?

Is this really that hard to follow.... Is Donk able to hold judgment until maybe a picture comes out?? Regardless thanks for being on the same page.

[Gianakin_]

Donk70:
Look, you said that Nolan said Joker from TLH and Batman #1 is the inspiration for the TDK Joker. Check.
You use it as an argument against the idea of a cross-dressing Joker. Check.
I'm saying that inspiration is too loose a word to be taken in such a narrow way. Check.
Fresh ideas have been inserted in all Batman films. Check.
This idea will be from another comic that Nolan has not stated as an inspiration. Check.
This has also happened in all other Bat-films. Check.
I'll understand that you fear camp but to use the inspiration angle as an argument against this is, is off, IMO.

[TromaFreak64]

How am I encouraging others to do the same? I posted my opinion on a message board just like you are and suddenly I'm a villain because I dare to question something the the "Great" Nolan has filmed for his movie.

People are free to think what they want, as are you and as are I. Show me where I have encouraged anyone to think what I think? Hell, I was even called arrogant for saying that I thought the look was campy.

You were called arrogant for calling something CAMPY you haven't seen.

You are the only one defending anything besides the notion of not judging things until you have seen them.

You are pushing your viewpoint which is based on NOTHING except that you heard Joker dresses like a nurse... you don't know what the outfit looks like, how he wears his hair, if he wears stocking, etc. but you somehow have the almight ability to know it is GOING to be campy.

As other posters have said, WE DON'T KNOW how it is going to turn out, WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT, and we aren't "BOLD" enough to pass judgment until we see it. It could be the WORST thing ever, but maybe not, we'll wait and see, but doesn't it seem a little odd to pass judgment on something you know so LITTLE about?

[Gianakin_]

The whole time you and I have been on the side of SAVE judgment until you see something and don't make bold claims about something you haven't seen yet (like Donk) is doing?

Yet somehow he views everything we say as DEFENSE for something we haven't seen yet... I'm glad you're still following but how is this poster SO confused.

Neither of us ever said we flat out support the idea or it looks great, we simply gave source material that would justify this and ways it could be done right but never assumed we knew it WAS done right. Yet Donk is stating it is CAMPY regardless of what the poster has seen?

Is this really that hard to follow.... Is Donk able to hold judgment until maybe a picture comes out?? Regardless thanks for being on the same page.

Yeah, I just asked "How so" because I genuinely wanted to know how he viewed this matter. And, hopefully, start a debate.

[donk70]

Go back and find somewhere I defended specifically the JOKER CROSS DRESSING in this film, and DIDN'T DEFEND the idea of holding judgment.

I haven't seen it, I can't defend something I haven't seen... I simply made fun of the idea that you could pass judgment on something you HAVEN'T seen yet and be so confident with it.

Never did I say "Joker looks sinister when he cross dresses in this film" where you said specifically "it is campy"... you implied somehow you knew, no matter what, it is campy.

I'm simply defending the idea of holding judgment - you are defending the idea of it is CAMPY no matter what.

I do believe it's campy. From the report, the Joker is wearing a nurses uniform (I believe it was said it was pink, but I'm not sure) but wearing the full Joker make up. It was also said that he had his hairy legs showing. Now, if the Joker was trying to hide his identity, why would he wear that outfit with out trying to mask his obvious features, or why didn't he dress up like a doctor?

That sounds campy to me.

[Infinity9999x]

....I'm amazed that people are worried about Joker being too "campy" because he's wearing a nurse outfit.

I mean, of ALL the things you could complain about pertaining to the Joker, people are getting their panties in a bunch because he's doing something THE JOKER IN THE COMICS WOULD DO?

Now, will this be campy? At first, you betcha. It should be kind of a funny, campy wtf moment, until he starts killing people. That's always the way the Joker has been. He comes off as a campy lunatic until his little act involves killing people, then it's not so funny anymore.

Honestly, how anyone could be worried about this scene is beyond me.

[Gianakin_]

How am I encouraging others to do the same? I posted my opinion on a message board just like you are and suddenly I'm a villain because I dare to question something the the "Great" Nolan has filmed for his movie.

Now this is harsh. Nowhere and never did I (or, I believe, TromaFreak) bring up the "great Nolan" angle on this.
I started this because I was really curious on your thoughts on this.

[Gianakin_]

But Nolan's brother listed MORE than two comics for the scripts inspiration and it's clear it draws from other sources still... head over there thought.. I know it wasn't Nolan who mentioned some of these, but it does take more than one person to make a movie, and I bet the writer has some idea too.


It's not so much that, it's more the fact that "inspiration" could also be translated as based on, which is in no way binding. If it had been, only Sin City (and not even that) would be acceptable as an adaptation.

PS: Come to think of it, even the word "adaptation" leaves you room for changes. The only binding phrase is "direct translation". And the Nolans never said that phrase, that's for sure.

[donk70]

You were called arrogant for calling something CAMPY you haven't seen.

You are the only one defending anything besides the notion of not judging things until you have seen them.

You are pushing your viewpoint which is based on NOTHING except that you heard Joker dresses like a nurse... you don't know what the outfit looks like, how he wears his hair, if he wears stocking, etc. but you somehow have the almight ability to know it is GOING to be campy.

As other posters have said, WE DON'T KNOW how it is going to turn out, WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT, and we aren't "BOLD" enough to pass judgment until we see it. It could be the WORST thing ever, but maybe not, we'll wait and see, but doesn't it seem a little odd to pass judgment on something you know so LITTLE about?
So I'm arrogant for having an opinion? Gee, I'm sorry for having an opinion, but I don't think you're gonna change that.

What you call pushing my viewpoint is what I call stating an opinion. Let me ask you this: If I said "Gee, the Joker in a nurses uniform sounds great. I know this movie will be the best ever", would you be calling me out like this? Would you be jumping all over this topic if I had said I like the idea? Would you have said "you're arrogant because you said you like it without seeing the movie"? No. You would have read the statement and went on to another thread because I shared the same fanboy love that you share for everything Nolan. Sorry, I don't like the idea of the Joker wearing a nurses outfit, I find it campy and it seems to be something Schumacher-esque.

[Gianakin_]

I think you are a little behind, but the Joker doesn't appear to be trying to mask his identity in this... in fact he wants his crimes as public as possible, and in the spotlight... where did you hear he is trying to mask his identity?

Well, I'd argue that to freely move into the building without being recognises as the Joker, he'd need to hide part of his ID.
But the point is that doonk70 thinks like a normal, logical man when suggesting the doctor idea to mask his ID. I find it appropriate for the Joker to try a nurse idea.

[donk70]

Now this is harsh. Nowhere and never did I (or, I believe, TromaFreak) bring up the "great Nolan" angle on this.
I started this because I was really curious on your thoughts on this.
No, the "Great" Nolan is my doing. I know neither of you brought it up.

[paranoidboy]

They are only filming Wayne Manor/ Batcave scenes in England. This I know for sure. The stunt driver and a few PA's confirmed this.

That's not entirely accurate, as I'm working on TDK at Pinewood this week as an extra.

I highly doubt I'll be shooting in the cave.

[DARKxGOTHAMITE]

if i may chime in on this whole nurses outfit thing....I personally do not recall Rory_Bat sayin what kinda nurses outfit specifically, maybe others did, but i dont remember him saying, but commonly now days a nurse just wears scrubs like on the show....Scrubs...which are usualy a blue or green...even pink color...which if thats the case that isnt that bad...isnt crossdressing there ARE male nurses...HOWEVER if its is old fassion clearly female gender nurses outfit....then i withdraw my argument

hehe

[donk70]

I think you are a little behind, but the Joker doesn't appear to be trying to mask his identity in this... in fact he wants his crimes as public as possible, and in the spotlight... where did you hear he is trying to mask his identity?
Exactly! If he isn't trying to conceal his identity, then why is he wearing a dress?

[Gianakin_]

if i may chime in on this whole nurses outfit thing....I personally do not recall Rory_Bat sayin what kinda nurses outfit specifically, maybe others did, but i dont remember him saying, but commonly now days a nurse just wears scrubs like on the show....Scrubs...which are usualy a blue or green...even pink color...which if thats the case that isnt that bad...isnt crossdressing there ARE male nurses...HOWEVER if its is old fassion clearly female gender nurses outfit....then i withdraw my argument

hehe

I'm actually hoping for good old-fashioned cross-dressing, otherwise it loses its "sick factor" and I'd deem it unnecessary.

[donk70]

Honest answer: Yes.. I would have attacked your prejudice if you liked it based on NOTHING.
Even though I do not know your character or know you personally, I'm going to debate the validity of your claim