The Official MOS Misc. Villians Thread

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

hence why he is considered a Bizzaro spider-man, because he is the exact opposite of spider-man. :huh:

Well i wouldnt say Eddie is the exact opposite of Peter, i really dont think the character is that shallow.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Since I haven't heard of any of those, I'd have to say I hope they don't go in that direction.

They have all been more recent villains, they have been quite prominent in the storylines of the last few years.

[GL's Light]

Superman has a handful of great villains, but his rogues gallery gets weak pretty quickly once you move beyond them.

I wouldn't want to see Bizarro or Doomsday in a movie. Metallo and Parasite would be fine, but only as henchmen villains. I don't think either one could carry a movie as the prime antagonist.

Lex Luthor is a great villain, but he's overexposed as Superman's antagonist. They should give him a rest and then bring him back in a revitalized fashion at some point.

The major villains who I'd like to see as big bads in a Superman movie at some point (whether in a Singer film or some other screen incarnation of Superman down the line):

1. Darkseid
2. Brainiac
3. Gog
4. The Ultra-Humanite

Four great villains: enough to fill out for four Superman films. :super:

[Spiderine]

I would like to see Metallo finally done.

[Superman1314]

Let's assume the next Superman movie is a direct sequel to SR with Singer and the same cast...

Who would you want the villains to be?

I'd love to see Braniac as the primary villain, with Metallo and Bizzaro as side villains. Take a page from Spider-Man 3's book and up the villains to up the action.


Huh? Spider-Man 3's main problem was that it was so conveluted with crap it wasn't even funny. Stick to one, main villain. If they have to go the route of Batman Begins and have lex dinking around while a bigger threat, say Brainiac, does his thing...fine. But the hodgepodge of Sandman, Venom and Green Gobblin 2 does not need to be done in in SR2.

As for who I want to see...someone that can physicall match Supes in strength. Wether it's Bizzaro, Metallo, Zod, or an incarnation of Brainiac that doesn't just sit in a ship and watch I'll be fine with it. But, if I had to pick just ONE villain to see Superman go against on a physical AND psychological level, it would have to be Conduit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conduit_%28comics%29

The fact that he can go toe to toe with Superman is good enough for a fight (along with the kryptonite laced tendrils and energy manipulation) but the fact that he knows Superman is Clark Kent, leaves for heavy mind **cking, especially in the begining when Clark has NO clue who knows.

[terry78]

Like I said before, give us a quick scene of Superman taking on Toyman, just a couple minutes so they can show how little of a threat he is.

[Spiderine]

They could finally throw a nod to some of his lesser threat villains like Toyman before we see the massive threat posed by the powerful alien beings.

[darkseid26]

Brainiac or Metallo!

[Super Kal]

mongul...

probably never gonna happen :(

[ObakeTora]

Braniac or Toyman.

[Super Kal]

I still say Brainiac and Lex

[Showtime]

I say Kak is the villian attacking Superman with his mind and brightening his suit with red kryptonite.

[Steelsheen]

I say Kak is the villian attacking Superman with his mind and brightening his suit with red kryptonite.
mwahahahaha! i would pay to see that :woot:

I still say Brainiac and Lex
co-signed.


I don't personally think Spacey would return for a 3rd film, I believe that he has a two picture deal. The question is, is it a two picture deal meaning two movies in the series, or Superman Returns and then the subsequent sequel? Interesting to think about.
hmm, you're right, that's kinda sad because i was really hoping for a Braniac-Lex team up on teh 2nd film then Luthoriac come the 3rd.

[GL's Light]

then Luthoriac come the 3rd.
I never want to see Luthoriac.

[GreenKToo]

I think it needs to open with supes already in the middle of a conflict, say metallo for instance.
After maybe a 10 minute fight, he is defeated and carted off to jail. Then get on with the story of the main villain, Brainiac.

[Mr. Socko]

I don't like many of the comic villains. Wouldn't bother me of Singer and co made up some cool villain for the movie.

[terry78]

I don't like many of the comic villains. Wouldn't bother me of Singer and co made up some cool villain for the movie.

Please don't say that. That's opening up a whole thing we don't want to ever get into.

[Mr. Socko]

Please don't say that. That's opening up a whole thing we don't want to ever get into.


So what. Raimi made up the Surfer Goblin and that stupid costume he wears and everyone praises it.

[TheComicbookKid]

I just hope Daugherty has some news for us at Comic Con. Like a confirmation of Brainiac or whoever is going to be in the movie.

[Mr. Socko]

If they do use Brainiac, I really hope they use the old school look instead of the new stupid stuff.

[TheComicbookKid]

The bald humanoid? No way.

You need the fancy machine like STAS verison at least. Otherwise it looks like Supes hates bald people.:whatever:

[Mr. Socko]

I loathe the TAS version.


Please, I want the green bald alien.

[GL's Light]

Otherwise it looks like Supes hates bald people.:whatever:
No, bald people hate Supes. They're jealous of his fine head of hair.

[Mr. Socko]

Then give him green hair.

[GL's Light]

This'll be the theme song for SR 2:

"Just a Krypton guy on a saturday night
Lookin for the fight of his life
In the real time world no one sees him at all
They all say he's crazy

Lockin rythms to the beat of his heart
Changing moment into light
He has danced into the phantom zone
When the dancer becomes the dance

It can cut you like a knife
If the gift becomes the fire
All the while you're stuck between
What's will and what will be

(CHORUS)
He's Brainiac, Brainiac on the floor
And he's dancing like he never danced before
He's Brainiac, Brainiac on the floor
And he's dancing like he never danced before."

:hyper:

[ObakeTora]

So what. Raimi made up the Surfer Goblin and that stupid costume he wears and everyone praises it.


I wasnt one of them Mr.Socko.

[Superman1314]

I still say Conduit would make for a kick ass villain for Supes AND Clark. Physical and Mental @ss kicking all the way.

[GL's Light]

So what. Raimi made up the Surfer Goblin and that stupid costume he wears and everyone praises it.
Most people liked the movie and Dafoe's performance, but the Goblin's costume was heavily criticized.

[nintendo nerd]

I still say Conduit would make for a kick ass villain for Supes AND Clark. Physical and Mental @ss kicking all the way.

I don't know. Conduit showed up when the Superman comics were really bad. Besides, he is not that popular. We haven't heard from him in the last 10 years.

[Spider-Fan83]

this might be alil OFT
wasn't sure where else to post it (not sure if this has already been discussed)
but, i was thinking, of a possible set up (from SR) for a villian in a future movie
when he throw the, krypto island thing, into outer space
there might of been small traces of his blood on it from when lex and he goons kicked his a**(or when lex stab him), while in space if it merged with the sun or some far off star, or just gets mutated from space radiation, (or one of the crystals, (that kitty dropped) focuses with the blood) something could develop of his DNA
maybe it could be a new way of creating Bizzaro or something?

just a random thought

[Super Kal]

I say Kak is the villian attacking Superman with his mind and brightening his suit with red kryptonite.
lol, sounds like fun :D

[true316]

This'll be the theme song for SR 2:

"Just a Krypton guy on a saturday night
Lookin for the fight of his life
In the real time world no one sees him at all
They all say he's crazy

Lockin rythms to the beat of his heart
Changing moment into light
He has danced into the phantom zone
When the dancer becomes the dance

It can cut you like a knife
If the gift becomes the fire
All the while you're stuck between
What's will and what will be

(CHORUS)
He's Brainiac, Brainiac on the floor
And he's dancing like he never danced before
He's Brainiac, Brainiac on the floor
And he's dancing like he never danced before."

:hyper:

Lol! Awesome. :woot:

[VenomsMom]

I don't know. Conduit showed up when the Superman comics were really bad. Besides, he is not that popular. We haven't heard from him in the last 10 years.
Conduit should be like the 8th option. If ever.

[nintendo nerd]

Conduit should be like the 8th option. If ever.

Agreed. Conduit is not even in Superman's top ten rogue gallery.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

After reading 'In The Name Of Gog' in which Preus returns after his defeat in 'Godfall', i definately would like to see Preus in a future Superman movie, he was ruthless in ITNOG.

[Superman1314]

Agreed. Conduit is not even in Superman's top ten rogue gallery.

Awwww :csad: my idea got shot down *sniff* lol. Anyway, I realize Conduit is not one of Superman's top 10, and you are right, most ppl probably don't know who the hell he is. I liked that story arc for some reason, and I liked the character. I'm sure he'd never be in anything, but I was just stating my lil' idea.

[Sharkfestation]

Bring in Lashina as a side villain for Darkseid. http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/superman/bios/villains/furies/11.jpg

[Qwerty©]

A side villain to what storyline?

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Besides Brainiac/Lex/Metallo...

I think it would be cool if Lex replace Kitty with Mercy. This could setup a nice confrontation showing a more spirited side of Lois :)

[Qwerty©]

Besides Brainiac/Lex/Metallo...

I think it would be cool if Lex replace Kitty with Mercy. This could setup a nice confrontation showing a more spirited side of Lois :)Little Bosworth standing up to Mercy? It'd come off as comical.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Little Bosworth standing up to Mercy? It'd come off as comical.

I didn't say a physical fight :o

[Qwerty©]

I didn't say a physical fight :oStill, the mental image makes me chuckle.

[terry78]

I didn't say a physical fight :o

They'll hurl insults at each other's wardrobe,

[Sharkfestation]

Michael Ironside as Darkseid
Tobin Bell as Brainiac
Angelia Jolie as Lashina
Linda Blair as Mad Harriet
Li Gong as Stompa ( based on Michael Tunner's drawings of Stompa)
Jeffrey Combs as Desaad
Andy Serkis as Kalibak ( using CGI or heavy make up)
Beatrice Arthur as Granny Goodness
Gerard Butler as Zod

Sorry for spelling and grammer.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

They'll hurl insults at each other's wardrobe,


That's only if Kitty is still in the film...

[M.O.Steel]

i would love to see Brainiac in the GODFALL costume but instead of red and black it would be dark green and dark purple.

[Sharkfestation]

Michael Ironside as Darkseid
Tobin Bell as Brainiac
Angelia Jolie as Lashina
Linda Blair as Mad Harriet
Li Gong as Stompa ( based on Michael Tunner's drawings of Stompa)
Jeffrey Combs as Desaad
Andy Serkis as Kalibak ( using CGI or heavy make up)
Beatrice Arthur as Granny Goodness
Gerard Butler as Zod

Sorry for spelling and grammer.

[Obi Wan Kenobi]

My Villains wish list! heh

1. Darkseid / Micheal Clark Duncan http://www.ucmovie.com/images/cast/duncan-cast.jpg=http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Workshop/8051/darkseid.gif

2. Brainiac / Jeremy Irons = http://www.thecinemasource.com/moviesdb/images/jeremy_irons_eragon_10.jpg http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/7/7b/Brainiac%28STAS%29.jpg

heh I love how these guys act... :woot:

Bingo if any plays Darkseid its got to be Michael Clark Duncan.

[Brian Braddock]

Jason Isaacs needs to play some sort of comicbook villain, I've been saying it for years.

If they went the way of Zodd, he'd be perfect but as posted on this thread previously, there are other villain roles which would also suit him.

I definatley agree that Weaving would make a great Brainiac.

As for the earlier Nathan Jones as Darkseid suggestion; I can only hope that the idea came about because of his size and not his acting ability - if that's the case, I would hope they'd use the Doug Jones/David Hyde Pearce 'Abe Sapien' approach - Jones under serious make up providing the physical performance with an established actor (not wrestler) providing the voice and giving the role some gravitas.

Personally, I'd go with the suggestion of MCD as Darkseid - he has the phsyical attributes needed for the role as well as the acting ability and deep, booming voice that I imagine Darkseid would have whenever I see his picture.

[COMPO]

Jeeze you are hard to please, Brainiac has at least 4 different looks, I'm sure they could combine and play around with those concepts to create something awesome on screen.

What if Brainiac arrives on Earth weakened and starts downloading information from computers and the more information he gets the more he transforms into different incarnations until finally he's the big B-13.

[capedcrus8r]

DARKSEID is the villain being secretly discussed....with potentially Laurence Fishburne to play....

[regwec]

Oh, for goodness' sake.

[VenomsMom]

DARKSEID is the villain being secretly discussed....with potentially Laurence Fishburne to play....
LIIIAAAAARRRRRRRR!!!!!!!

[VenomsMom]

Bring in Lashina as a side villain for Darkseid. http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/superman/bios/villains/furies/11.jpg
Dude you are really obsessed with this chick. What gives?

[GreenKToo]

Nevah!!!!

[Darth Elektra]

Bring in Lashina as a side villain for Darkseid. http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/superman/bios/villains/furies/11.jpg

It could work and it would be pretty cool.

[Qwerty©]

DARKSEID is the villain being secretly discussed....with potentially Laurence Fishburne to play....
So now I guess Fishburne is going to be the newest 'big black actor' that will be suggested for every black role.

[Steelsheen]

Dude you are really obsessed with this chick. What gives?

your answer lies on her costume.

[phoenixflight]

Now that we know Lex will be in the sequel, who else should Superman battle??

[I SEE SPIDEY]

If bland man directs the sequel I have no doubt that Zod will be the villain...as a matter of fact I will be shocked if he isn't.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

If bland man directs the sequel I have no doubt that Zod will be the villain...as a matter of fact I will be shocked if he isn't.

Bland man. Wow, how creative. Too bad you aren't a director or something like that.




:whatever:

[FCEEVIPER]

Have TWO Villains for the Sequel, Mongul, BRAINIAC DAMNIT!

Not counting Lex.^

[buggs0268]

To me, Bryan Singer has been Superman's greatest villain of all.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

If bland man directs the sequel I have no doubt that Zod will be the villain...as a matter of fact I will be shocked if he isn't.

Sooo you voted for Zod anyway? Weird.

[FCEEVIPER]

To me, Bryan Singer has been Superman's greatest villain of all.
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4052/guitarsh7.gif

[zanos]

To me, Bryan Singer has been Superman's greatest villain of all.

LOL!

[Pickle-El]

To me, Bryan Singer has been Superman's greatest villain of all.

The schtick is getting old....Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

[Billy Batson]

Lex Luthor DAMNIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come on guys, those other villains are just too imaginative for a love story / chick flick.

[turtlefocker]

Mongul

[Billy Batson]

Lex Luthor,Red kryptonite and Evil Superman will be the next villains.

[Kabuki_Jo]

Not Luthor, that's for sure.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Sooo you voted for Zod anyway? Weird. I don't want him to ruin another villain a better director can take on in future movies.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Edit.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Bland man. Wow, how creative. Too bad you aren't a director or something like that.




:whatever:Oh MSG will you ever learn? I had worse names to call him but decided him ruining Superman isn't a serious enough offence for me to call him them. I enjoy sparing with you.:heart:

Its strange, you seem so pissed off whenever I make the slightest criticism of him but ignore most other posters comments. Whats up with that?

[Cyrusbales]

Oh MSG will you ever learn? I had worse names to call him but decided him ruining Superman isn't a serious enough offence for me to call him them. I enjoy sparing with you.:heart:

Its strange, you seem so pissed off whenever I make the slightest criticism of him but ignore most other posters comments. Whats up with that?


so you didn't like SR, did you like F4?

[Pickle-El]

She only likes the Spidey films...(and their excessivness in every dept....cue another major character crying) But, that's the way it is, can't please them all.

[Cyrusbales]

She only likes the Spidey films...(and their excessivness in every dept....cue another major character crying) But, that's the way it is, can't please them all.


her avatar led me to believe otherwise though.....:huh:


I've noticed that SR and F4 are opposite ends of the comic book spectrum, cheap cheesey crap with no good writing, direction or acting, and then SR is at the other end......

[I SEE SPIDEY]

so you didn't like SR, did you like F4?Short answer yes...long answer, sort of. Both FF films aren't great but I think they are fun and have their hearts in the right place.

Here's my score: FF 1 and 2: 6.5 or 7 out of 10.

SR: 5 to 6 out of 10. I can't really choose.

[Cyrusbales]

well SR and F4 are completely different in tone, style and content, hence people generally liking one and not the other.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

her avatar led me to believe otherwise though.....:huh: Why are you even romotely listening to Pickle El over the actual person you umm asked? Pickle El obviously doesn't read my post or just likes to lie about me, because he doesn't know what the s**t he's talking about. It would be okay if I only liked the Spider-Man movies but I don't. I happen to dislike Spider-Man 3 and love HellBoy and the first two Blade movies, plus I liked Batman Begins and believe it or not I semi liked the X-films even though I think that Singer and Ratner turned what could have been a great movie series into a decent one.

MY RATINGS:

X-men: 6.5/10 ( The Jube-Rogue/Wolve relationship was touching but I dislike the uber realsim and set design and costumes and think that half of the people were miscast. And I think that it's really more of a semi decent Wolverine movie than an X-Men movie. Loved the ending though, but that is mostly because of the Logan and Rogue theme song/relationship.)

X2: 7.5/10 (Almost a good movie but I still find it to be rather dull like the first one and I didn't care for the vilain at all, still it was better than the first for Nightcralwer alone, he was well done. And again I really enjoyed the ending but the music wasn't nearly as beautiful.)

X3: 7/10 (It was silly, cheesey, too short and had way too many characters but hey, after all of the uber seriousness I was ready for some better directed action and well actually letting the characters really let loose with there powers. It's the most entertaining by far and I've watched it the most.

Hellboy: 9 out of 10

Blade 1:9/10 and Blade 2: 10/10 It's actually my favorite comicbook movie...gasp!!!!!

Batman Begins: 8/10 For my money it's hugely overrated but I liked it.

I don't feel like getting into the other ones...so there you have it! Pickle El silly foolish uninformed opinions are dead wrong.




I've noticed that SR and F4 are opposite ends of the comic book spectrum, cheap cheesey crap with no good writing, direction or acting, and then SR is at the other end......I obviously disagree with this statment but that goes without saying eh? My avatar is mostly because I think Chris Evans is hot...no pun intended.

[Agent 194]

Not Luthor, that's for sure.
Agreed. It's like Spider-Man crying in every movie. We get it already. Peter Parker's a poor, pathetic loser (except he wasn't really so much in the comics - they beat that into the ground) we get it. Luthor is a mean, nasty guy. We get it. Go onto something else.

[GreenKToo]

Brainiac, and metallo.

[Agent 194]

How about Bizarro? Maybe he'd be closer to the Superman we should have seen on screen.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Brainiac and Luthor as the main villains and an opening sequence with Blackrock.

Or The Eradicator instead of Brainiac, i dont mind either.

[DieSmiling]

I'd say Brainiac as the main with Metallo as a hands-on while Lex Luthor builds up LexCorp (by taking over small companies of course!)

Yeah, I've been saying this for months.

[newmexneon]

2 villains not including Luthor. Have Braniac as the main threat and have Luthor build Metallo for a henchman type character.

[Agent 194]

Brainiac could make good visual sense.

[Kabuki_Jo]

Agreed. It's like Spider-Man crying in every movie. We get it already. Peter Parker's a poor, pathetic loser (except he wasn't really so much in the comics - they beat that into the ground) we get it. Luthor is a mean, nasty guy. We get it. Go onto something else.

Funny you should say that when Luthor's been depicted ( in the movies ) as an idiot with dumb real estate schemes.

I do NOT wanna see Luthor in the sequel and I have a right to my opinion. Respect it.

[Kabuki_Jo]

I've noticed that SR and F4 are opposite ends of the comic book spectrum, cheap cheesey crap with no good writing, direction or acting, and then SR is at the other end......


Yeah, right.
SR is well directed, boring, uninteresting, depressive, serious, the actors have no chemistry and Singer should be directing Mexican soap operas for TV.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^To YOU maybe, not to others.

[GreenKToo]

Funny you should say that when Luthor's been depicted ( in the movies ) as an idiot with dumb real estate schemes.

I do NOT wanna see Luthor in the sequel and I have a right to my opinion. Respect it.
I agree with you somewhat, but I do think we'll still see him, just to a lesser extent this time around. ( I hope)

[The_Beav]

Hugo Weaving for Brainiac, 2009.


Actually, I think Hugo Weaving would be a better Zod than Brainiac. I could even see Hugo portraying Darkseid, but Zod seems a better fit.

[Kabuki_Jo]

Hopefully, GreenK.

[Arkady Rossovich]

I went with Bizzaro,but its doubtfull there will be.Its just going to be Luthor..again..

[Grinder]

They can throw in every villain they want to, doesn't change the stupid-verse the characters are set in. That's the only real turnoff, if the story would've worked the flaws wouldn't have been so obvious.

There's no way but down for this franchise. Either reboot it with present post-crisis elements or see the next Superman movie bomb in 2009 (or whenever it gets made)!

:dry:

[Cyrusbales]

Luthor needs to be in, but doesn't need to have much screentime, becoming more of a subtle force etc, and working behind the scenes. Perhaps not even interacting with superman, having clark and lois having to interview him due to his new city regeneration scheme after somethign awful happens etc....

[GreenKToo]

Luthor needs to be in, but doesn't need to have much screentime, becoming more of a subtle force etc, and working behind the scenes. Perhaps not even interacting with superman, having clark and lois having to interview him due to his new city regeneration scheme after somethign awful happens etc....

:up: I agree. It would be pretty kool if it showed Luthor watching superman and the supervillain slugging it out on T.V.
He would be cheering when it looked like supes was losing, and when supes wins, an enraged Luthor kicks in the T.V. screen.

[Optimus Prime.]

Brainiac would be cool.

But if they did Mxyzptlk in a future movie, go with Robin Williams and shrink him down to the size of leprechan(sp?). Would be funny.

I like DarkSied, I really would like to see that happen.

hahhahaha nice, nice. thats would be so funny. him and is hairy knuckles

[Kanon]

Brainiac: I think would be the best choice. It could be tied to Superman origin like in the animated series, and that would work great.
General Zod: Maybe. A kryptonian villain would be a great choice, as I said with brainiac...
Parasite: mmmmh, weird. Maybe it will be merged with some other villain to create something new
Bizarro: Nice, but I don't think it'll work solo
Gog:
Lex Luthor: Damn, Again? And yet, he has to be there...
Metallo: As with Bizarro, it's a good villain to use with someone else
Lobo,Darkseid,Mr. Mxyzptlk,Mongul: Don't think it could happen
Doomsday: Used in the animated movie, and way too powerful to use this soon, it will take something away from brute force characters like Metallo and Bizarro...
Cyborg Superman: Requires a complicated origin for something we can get, and better, from other villains like Brainiac, Bizarro, etc
Toyman,Intergang: Maybe as cameos, or supporting. Not the villain we need right now

My choice: Maybe a team of krytonians, including Zod, some sort of Bizarro, and a way to introduce either a Supergirl or Superboy (or both)

[BlackSuitSpidey]

I think Brainiac is WAY overdue for his movie intro and hopefully he'll look like the animated version. As far as Luthor being in it, it would be pretty funny to see the same thing that happened to Luthor in Superman II. You know Lex trying to cut a deal and Brainiac has no use for him? Anyway the one thing this movie needs for sure is Superman actually fighting with him punching him and everything we saw in the animated series.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Just finished reading 'The Death Of Superman' last night for the first time, and i gotta say, Doomsday needs to be in a Superman movie in this franchise, maybe a bit soon for the 2nd or even 3rd movie, but he has to be shown on screen at some point.

[Showtime]

Just finished reading 'The Death Of Superman' last night for the first time, and i gotta say, Doomsday needs to be in a Superman movie in this franchise, maybe a bit soon for the 2nd or even 3rd movie, but he has to be shown on screen at some point.

I doubt you'll see him in this run of Superman, because they are releasing the animated version of Death of Superman featuring Doomsday. If you do see him eventually, I don't think it will be the Death of Superman storyline.

[GreenKToo]

I would place my money on seeing Darkseid before we see Doomsday.

[COMPO]

I think Brainiac is WAY overdue for his movie intro and hopefully he'll look like the animated version. As far as Luthor being in it, it would be pretty funny to see the same thing that happened to Luthor in Superman II. You know Lex trying to cut a deal and Brainiac has no use for him? Anyway the one thing this movie needs for sure is Superman actually fighting with him punching him and everything we saw in the animated series.

To be honest, why Lex didn't take Kryptonite with him i don't know. He should took a bit just in case and when Zod orders them to kill him. He hodls the Kryptonite up and weakens them including Supes.

[ubertroy]

Doomsday, just for a final showdown. I think I hear the flamethrowers starting...

I know lots are opposed to Doomsday,but as something Lex creates to beat Supes, would work for me.

Forgive me, for I am not well versed in the Superman Mythos. I'm just casting my vote as an average joe looking for a better sequel.

I would love to see DOOMSDAY, but in a 3rd or 4th movie, when people are used to having Superman back and Routh as the main man.

I just want to see Superman in a better fight then the first one. The fight in Donner/Superman2 was good but Im sure they can do better with today's tech.

I would love to see Bizarro (who should have been a Luthor lacky in the first movie). Bizarro cant lead. He has to do some other villain's dirty work.

I would like to see Parasite play that role as well, maybe as a lacky for Brainiac or Luthor.

I would like to see DOOMSDAY in a third movie and Darkseid in a fourth, or vice verser.

[Robin91939]

Brainiac.

Then, end the film with an allusion to Apokolyps and/or Darkseid. Have him be the main villain of Superman 3. I thought all along that Superman Returns would have/should have ended with a cliff hanger of Brainiac, having him be the one who was influencing Lex through the crystals and have him begin to form at the end of the film but be heaved into space and presumed to be defeated.....then have him return completely in form in The Man of Steel.....the best laid plans.

-R

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I doubt you'll see him in this run of Superman, because they are releasing the animated version of Death of Superman featuring Doomsday. If you do see him eventually, I don't think it will be the Death of Superman storyline.

I'm not so sure, we'll have to wait and see. I can imagine him being included in a potential 4th movie in the franchise.

Brainiac.

Then, end the film with an allusion to Apokolyps and/or Darkseid. Have him be the main villain of Superman 3. I thought all along that Superman Returns would have/should have ended with a cliff hanger of Brainiac, having him be the one who was influencing Lex through the crystals and have him begin to form at the end of the film but be heaved into space and presumed to be defeated.....then have him return completely in form in The Man of Steel.....the best laid plans.

-R

Agreed.

[Showtime]

I'm not so sure, we'll have to wait and see. I can imagine him being included in a potential 4th movie in the franchise.

I think this is going to be a two and out franchise, if the sequel ends up getting made, then we will see JLA. I don't see this as at trilogy any longer.

[TheComicbookKid]

I think this is going to be a two and out franchise, if the sequel ends up getting made, then we will see JLA. I don't see this as at trilogy any longer.

I thought about that, too. The movie will tie up the loose ends. Lex in jail and Lois with Superman. If it does well, the WB might consider a third, but certainly not a fourth. They'll want a reboot to regain the childless Superman for a Spideylike franchise.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Oh i dont know guys, if the 2nd one makes mega-bucks, we will see a 3rd IMO.

[Showtime]

I think we will see a 3rd, but it would be a continuation with Batman and Superman, or the JLA.

[Showtime]

I thought about that, too. The movie will tie up the loose ends. Lex in jail and Lois with Superman. If it does well, the WB might consider a third, but certainly not a fourth. They'll want a reboot to regain the childless Superman for a Spideylike franchise.

I hope Lex doesn't go back to jail, I would rather have him live to see another day and leave it open. Leave him on the outside, slipping out of Superman's grasp and covering his tracks as Lex would.

[Brian Braddock]

I voted for Mongul.

I'd love to see a movie involving Warworld and there to be a moment where Supes says:-

"Burn".

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/2440_4_27.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/2440_4_28.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/SUPERBENITEZ/2723_4_011.jpg

Quite simply - Mongul's a badass.

[kirbyfan]

Darkseid is the ultimate DC super villian, what he brings along with him can't be touched by all these other guys!

It has to be the great lord Darkseid, no one else compares!

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I think we will see a 3rd, but it would be a continuation with Batman and Superman, or the JLA.

I dont think so, if SR2 makes mega-bucks and TDK does, i doubt WB would throw all of their money-makers into one movie than earn more by giving both threequels.

I hope Lex doesn't go back to jail, I would rather have him live to see another day and leave it open. Leave him on the outside, slipping out of Superman's grasp and covering his tracks as Lex would.

I would prefer it if Lex died, but in a very unconvincing and unclear way, meaning he can easily come back.

[Dark Knight]

Luthor needs to be in, but doesn't need to have much screentime, becoming more of a subtle force etc, and working behind the scenes. Perhaps not even interacting with superman, having clark and lois having to interview him due to his new city regeneration scheme after somethign awful happens etc....



I agree. Show Lex being able to start LexCorp by perhaps obtaining new advanced technology (from Braniac) so he can obtain a contract with the military or show maybe him trying to sell it to highest bidder in black market. Then double crossing and killing the black market buyers and stealing the money?

[Showtime]

I dont think so, if SR2 makes mega-bucks and TDK does, i doubt WB would throw all of their money-makers into one movie than earn more by giving both threequels.

I don't think SR2 or TDK will make megabucks, but have a possibility of doing better than the originals.


I would prefer it if Lex died, but in a very unconvincing and unclear way, meaning he can easily come back.

That was the biggest mistake with Batman with Keaton, but the Joker is back now.

[TheComicbookKid]

But if they aren't doing a third movie, you can't just let the villain that kicked your ass get away. Lex has to meet some kind of retribution. That's partly why the Sandman ending was so dumb.

[dpm07]

Brainiac.

Then, end the film with an allusion to Apokolyps and/or Darkseid. Have him be the main villain of Superman 3. I thought all along that Superman Returns would have/should have ended with a cliff hanger of Brainiac, having him be the one who was influencing Lex through the crystals and have him begin to form at the end of the film but be heaved into space and presumed to be defeated.....then have him return completely in form in The Man of Steel.....the best laid plans.

-R

I agree with you, but I don't think Singer would go this route, unfortunately. I can't see him using Darkseid at all. Personally, I'd love to see a scenario of what you stated and presented, but I don't think it will happen with Singer at the helm. Your ideas sound like something out of the Timmverse (which I love, btw), but Singer seems to distance himself from that aspect of the Superman mythos.

[TheComicbookKid]

The best way I could see things is Brainiac in this one and Lex as secondary story. Lex creates LexCorp and enters into a partnership with Morgan Edge giving technology to him. Third movie is a war between LexCorp and Intergang, maybe involving Bizarro and/or Metallo. That's more in Singer's realistic realm but still has action.

[GreenKToo]

I don't think SR2 or TDK will make megabucks, but have a possibility of doing better than the originals.




That was the biggest mistake with Batman with Keaton, but the Joker is back now.
I agree with you. I dont think a superman/batman film will ever pull in spidey numbers.
If they can do 275/300 mill dom. then that would be huge for them.

As for the joker, I hated that they killed him in batman89.

[Showtime]

I agree with you. I dont think a superman/batman film will ever pull in spidey numbers.
If they can do 275/300 mill dom. then that would be huge for them.

I think DK has a chance to make between 250million-275million, but that is a reach. I had Superman Returns at 285million. Pfft.



As for the joker, I hated that they killed him in batman89.

I thought that was ridiculous.

[Excel]

The Dark Knight is looking at anywhere from 275 to 300 million. The word of mouth from BEGINS+ The Joker should get it an opening weekend over 95 miloion; probably a 100...TDK should be the biggest opener of 2008...and have the legs to get 280; 300 million at best.

SUPERMAN 2-if its like SR-would 240-250 million. If they add a physical villain and lighter look and get a great release date (like TDK has).....260-280.

[GreenKToo]

I really, REALLY hope that *IF* we get a sequel, that it has at least two supervillains.
Two supervillains + a good story + more action = $$$$

[Matt]

The Dark Knight is looking at anywhere from 275 to 300 million. The word of mouth from BEGINS+ The Joker should get it an opening weekend over 95 miloion; probably a 100...TDK should be the biggest opener of 2008...and have the legs to get 280; 300 million at best.

SUPERMAN 2-if its like SR-would 240-250 million. If they add a physical villain and lighter look and get a great release date (like TDK has).....260-280.

You got the first two right, but Superman Returns had the king of release dates. Nothing beats 4th of July. It all comes down to the direction. Whether it is a hit or another disappointment or even flop will all depend on Singer.

[Kevin Roegele]

This poll may have been posted before, however, I decided to add one. I may not list every possible villain (some are really to lame to list), but I hope I offer a good selection. No matter what, Superman needs to show his might in this sequel...HE NEEDS TO FIGHT!!!


And people say Superman doesn't have a good rogue's gallery.....! Darkseid, Doomsday, General Zod, Braniac, Bizarro, the Parasite, Metallo, the Cyborg Superman.....I'd be happy to see any of these bad boys in the upcoming movies.

[matrix_ghost]

Cyborg superman seems like a better candidate from a practical POV

[ubertroy]

THIS thought just entered my mind. I think, since Luthor will always appear in every Superman movie, How about

Solomon Grundy as one of the villains? He would make for a GREAT fight scene. There is another reason he would be great.

One of the MOST discussed Superhero battles in all discussions, is

Superman vs HULK (second only to Batman vs Captain America).

Since that fight will never happen in a movie, that is but One of Many reasons why GRUNDY would be EXCELLENT.

Think of all the action that DID'NT happen in SR, and all the action that COULD happen with GRUNDY in a Superman movie.

Im surprised I havent seen GRUNDY's name mentioned much before.

[Morg]

Im surprised I havent seen GRUNDY's name mentioned much before.

actually it has popped up now and then

[TaintedBlood]

isn't grundy more of a batman villain?

[Mister J]

Grunday floats around. You could peg him as a villain of Green Lantern, Batman, JSA or JLA. Regardless, I wouldn't want to see him in the sequel. Brainiac, Metallo, Parasite or even Bizarro beforehand.

[Showtime]

Yeah I thought he was more of a JLA villian myself.

[Motown Marvel]

no....just....ugh....no.

[GreenKToo]

I dont think grundy would be a big enough draw. Now if you put him with some more villains in a J.L. film, then yeah.

[Rob-el]

I thought he was more of a JSA foe - Earth 2 origins and all that. HAVing said that I don't see him in a Superman moive anytime soon. If they're going to go that type of route they might as well make it Doomsday

[Immortalfire]

Solomon Grundy want pants too!

[Rob-el]

Superman never made any money
For saving the world from Solomon Grundy
And sometimes I despair the world will never see another man
Like him
-Crash Test Dummies

No real reason to post that except I felt like it!

[Mister J]

Solomon Grundy want pants too!
That and the SuperFriends episode where he's rambling about the Monolith of Evil are two of my favorite Gundy moments. :woot:

[turtlefocker]

Born on a monday..

[Motown Marvel]

if your gonna go with the pale mindless ogre, it'd be best to stick with bizarro. which would be far more appropriate and entertaining.

[Sharkfestation]

Kneel before































































Lord Darkseid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e6/Darkseid_Large.jpg

[VenomsMom]

All the great villains we have yet to see and you bring up Grundy..... we have come to this.

[dmbdmbdmb]

solomam grundy is a flash villain not superman now in the justice league movie he's fair game but not in superman.

[Showtime]

Listen Dave Matthews, stick to music buddy.

[Heatwave]

Brainiac. I mean, we saw Lex Luther and General Zod and Bizarro in the Christopher Reeve movies, and Superman Returns was the typical Lex Luther plot once more. But Brainiac? Now that would definitely be cool. :) Besides, he could give Lex a run for his money. :D

[Venom'sDad]

This poll may have been posted before, however, I decided to add one. I may not list every possible villain (some are really to lame to list), but I hope I offer a good selection. No matter what, Superman needs to show his might in this sequel...HE NEEDS TO FIGHT!!!


He did fight and got his arse whipped by Lex and a bunch of goons. That has got to be one of the most ridiculas scenes I've seen... The Man of Steel sweating with fear and ordinary humans beating him to a pulp. This is why the sequel needs a bonafied villain. Ridiculas...

[VenomsMom]

He did fight and got his arse whipped by Lex and a bunch of goons. That has got to be one of the most ridiculas scenes I've seen... The Man of Steel sweating with fear and ordinary humans beating him to a pulp. This is why the sequel needs a bonafied villain. Ridiculas...
Anybody can whup his "arse" once they expose him to Kryptonite. The girl scouts of America could have taken him down. Even when this bonafied villain shows up once again lex will just throw a piece of Kryptonite at him and end any hopes of a major battle.

[Dark Knight]

The Dark Knight is looking at anywhere from 275 to 300 million. The word of mouth from BEGINS+ The Joker should get it an opening weekend over 95 miloion; probably a 100...TDK should be the biggest opener of 2008...and have the legs to get 280; 300 million at best.
.


I agree. TDK will definately make more than BB.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I don't think SR2 or TDK will make megabucks, but have a possibility of doing better than the originals.


Oh i think both have the potential too, TDK moreso at this point to be honest. In fact i see TDK making AT LEAST $100 million more than BB, but i could be wrong of course.

That was the biggest mistake with Batman with Keaton, but the Joker is back now.

Thing is though, with the Joker, they gave him NO chance of returning. But if Lex died i would like them to do it in a conspicuous manner, meaning they could easily bring him back if they wanted to.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

And people say Superman doesn't have a good rogue's gallery.....! Darkseid, Doomsday, General Zod, Braniac, Bizarro, the Parasite, Metallo, the Cyborg Superman.....I'd be happy to see any of these bad boys in the upcoming movies.

Plus The Eradictor and more lately Preus, Gog and Ruin.

Though my personal favourites are Darkseid and Doomsday.

[Figs]

I just can't understand why people voted for Zod when we had him in part 2 already. When Superman has other super villains to use like Darkseid, Metallo, Brainiac, and Doomsday why would you want to pick someone used already. It's like how a number of fans complained that Lex was in SR again! Personally I don't see what's so great about Zod, I think he is extremely overrated.

[Rezzo]

I´m still waiting for Doomsday to make it into a live action movie

[VenomsMom]

Personally I don't see what's so great about Zod, I think he is extremely overrated.
He is a villain with the exact same powers as Supes, how is he overrated?

[BlackSuitSpidey]

^^So does Bizarro, and Parasite when he drains Superman.

[CLARKY]

I like Donner's Zod but I think a character from the phantom zone like Jax Ur would be more maleable.
Since B.Singer took the Kal El aproach for Superman, I think Brainiac, Eradicator, or a phantom zone villains may have more chances to appear than Metallo or Parasite. Well, I say this judging Singer's mind from what I've seen of him in one superman film .... So my judgement may not be THAT accurate ....
I think Darkseid will not appear. I'm not a "Darkseid is too big to enter into the Superman mythos" kind of fan claiming Darkseid is this or that, I'd love to see him but he is a very big character and make him just the villain of one film would be reducing him too much IMO.

[VenomsMom]

I like Donner's Zod but I think a character from the phantom zone like Jax Ur would be more maleable.
Since B.Singer took the Kal El aproach for Superman, I think Brainiac, Eradicator, or a phantom zone villains may have more chances to appear than Metallo or Parasite. Well, I say this judging Singer's mind from what I've seen of him in one superman film .... So my judgement may not be THAT accurate ....
I think Darkseid will not appear. I'm not a "Darkseid is too big to enter into the Superman mythos" kind of fan claiming Darkseid is this or that, I'd love to see him but he is a very big character and make him just the villain of one film would be reducing him too much IMO.
Personally, not that I prefer it one way or another but based on SR I just have to go with Brainiac. A villain with major links to Krypton. I could be wrong and Singer goes out in left field. Which would not be a first. But I would be shocked if Brainiac is not featured in the next story as the main villain.

[Venom'sDad]

Not quite sure who I would like to see now anymore. I'm more interested in seeing a re-boot, but that would probably mean getting Lex again.

[The Joker_1000]

Which villain(s) do you want in this film?

Personally, I'd love it if Metallo & Mongul were the villains in this movie.

[lordofthenerds]

Brainiac, and since we know he's returning, Lex Luthor.

[GreenKToo]

It depends. If its a prequel to a J.L. film, then I would want Darkseid.
If its not, then Brainiac and metallo.

[newmexneon]

I want to see Lex still scheming to get rid of Superman by creating Metallo. But I want Braniac to come in towards the end of the film as the major threat.

[Motown Marvel]

i could go for any combination of brainiac, metallo, luthor, or bizarro. i could go for zod, but i'd prefer something else since we've seen him already. as for mongul and darkseid, they're too big for the franchise at this point.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Yeah yeah, 90% of us will give the same answer here.

Metallo-Brainiac- some Lex (w/Lexcorp preferrably)

[Rated-X]

Why was Brainiac not listed? He shouldn't be group in with "others". :csad:

[Excel]

brainiac and lex team up to create metallo so he can kill superman while they take over the world. supes loses to metallo then comes back n defeats him n the defeats brainiac just in time to save da world!

[Sharkfestation]

No fence but what is so good about Metallo anyway? One of main reasons why Superman Returns was bashed was because of them using kryptonite as Superman's weakness again. Also how many times have you seen a robot on flim? Audiences want something they haven't seen before. Metallo would be a poor choice for a side villain because they have since the robots hundreds of times. Even though Brainiac is sort of a robot. However he is different because he is a living alien computer. Audiences don't see that in every scince fiction movie. Also Brainiac has a whole bunch of powers to bring Superman to his knees like
Superhuman strength
Physical resistance
Telepathy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telepathy)
Telekinesis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telekinesis)
Ability to manipulate energy derived from cybernetic form
While Metallo is just a robot with super human strength ( almost every supervillain has that power) and a rock in his chest. Doomsday is better choice because he can hurt Superman without kryptonite. I'm not saying they should use the Death and Return storyline. Just make him a monster that is used by Brainiac to kill Superman so he could add him to his collection without having the risk of him being taken alive and breaking out of his collection. Also Doomsday is great visual since it's rare for audiences to see a monster like that. My number one choice would be Darkseid since he is my farvorite Superman villain and also my favorite comic book villain. He is a great visual. I also noticed that a lot of people are saying that Darkseid isn't a Superman villain and he should appear in a Fourth World or New Gods movie. Like that's going to happen. They are problemy never going to do a Fourth World or New Gods movie. If they did it would be critical and box office bomb because think of how much money it would take to be a epic like that. Also critics and audiences would consider it a Star Wars rip-off. As always, fanboys would be still be complaining. If they haven't even made a Wonder Woman or Flash movie. Even though it's still in production. But Wonder Woman lost its director a couple weeks ago or even monthes ago. What's the hope of doing a Fourth World movie. Also Darkseid doesn't have to be a villain in a Justice League movie. They could use the White Martians as villains. Which would better fit the orgin of the Justice League. Plus, the Justice League movie in the works is problemy a stand alone flim. They also problemy not going to make sequels for the JL movie anyway. For those who say the whole New Gods would be hard to do a Superman flim. They could use Krypton as Apnokolips' enemy instead of New Genesis. I remeber hearing someone say that John Peters didn't have rights for Darkseid because he wasn't created by Jerry Siegel and Joel Shuster. Which doesn't make since because Brainiac, Metallo, Parasite, Doomsday, and even Zod weren't created by them. Brainiac, Metallo, and Doomsday were all in the canceled Superman projects before Superman Returns. Plus Darkseid has appeared in Superman: TAS, was going to appear in one of Alex Ford's Superman movies, Darkseid did first appear in Superman's Pal Jimmy Oslen, and made his first full apearence in Forever People 1# which had Superman in that issue.Even if they had to buy the rights for Darkseid. It would be as expensive as Jack Kirby's other creations like the Hulk, Caption America, and the Fantastic Four because they are more popular then Darkseid.

Sorry for spelling and grammer.

[Qwerty©]

No fence but what is so good about Metallo anyway? One of main reasons why Superman Returns was bashed was because of them using kryptonite as Superman's weakness again. Also how many times have you seen a robot on flim? Audiences want something they haven't seen before. Metallo would be a poor choice for a side villain because they have since the robots hundreds of times. Even though Brainiac is sort of a robot. However he is different because he is a living alien computer. Audiences don't see that in every scince fiction movie. Also Brainiac has a whole bunch of powers to bring Superman to his knees like
Superhuman strength
Physical resistance
Telepathy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telepathy)
Telekinesis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telekinesis)
Ability to manipulate energy derived from cybernetic form

They don't?

We just saw them in Transformers.

[The Joker_1000]

Yeah, & I don't see what's the big deal about Brainiac either. To each his own. But Doomsday definitely wouldn't be in the SR sequel, it's much too early in my eyes.

[Wolfman]

I'm happy with any villain[s], as long as there's fight scenes. Not just lifting things and ***** that we got in SR.

[Harvey Fett]

I would like to see Brainiac, Darkseid or Metallo. Only one though. And I'm really hoping the villain won't side with Luthor.

On a seperate note, I would love to see Doomsday in a movie, if only for the thrill of the fight scenes. Obviously they are highly unlikely to use him anytime soon which is perfectly understandable.

[Spike_x1]

Neutron or Mongul.

[Justice Bringer]

It will be Brainiac and Luthor.

That is all.

[Lobo]

I want Metallo with Mongul saved for a third film, and save Darkseid for JLA. I'd also be happy with Jax-Ur

[Spike_x1]

Darkseid is the ultimate DC super villian, what he brings along with him can't be touched by all these other guys!

It has to be the great lord Darkseid, no one else compares!That's the thing about Darkseid, though. He can easily defeat Superman without breaking a sweat:

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/863/superpowersv26of6133jtbk8.jpg

So a film would have to water him down to the point where Superman stands a chance of beating him in the end, which is why they might as well use Mongul to fill the Darkseid-lite role.

[Tron5000]

I think Brainiac's the logical choice. With Clark (Kal) having already gone back to Krypton and declared, "That place was a graveyard. I'm the only one left," he really thinks that he's the last link to Krypton.

But in comes good ol' Brainiac to screw things up. I think Singer likes the duality of Superman (alien/human), so I think he would use Brainiac to play on this.

[TheComicbookKid]

I want Brainiac to show up in an Independence Day type way. A giant Brainiac ship hovering over Metropolis casting a large shadow over a large part of the city.

[The Joker_1000]

Jax-Ur is cool but I'd like more depth to be added to his character instead of him just being in the military & then going mad with insane ideals.

[manofsteel4life]

It will be Brainiac and Luthor.

That is all.
do you think its gonna be for sure those 2?

[Compi716]

http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=6141

"A user on BlueTights' The Planet Forum got a chance to meet Superman: Man of Steel co-writer Michael Dougherty at the U.S. Capitol and asked him about the sequel:

I asked him if he was a part of the sequel because everything I have seen says [Bryan] Singer and [Dan] Harris are writing the script and that he isn't mentioned. He confirmed that he is writing it with the two just like the last picture. I then expressed to him that I was hoping the delays of Superman: The Man of Steel weren't true. He said that they were on track and that the goal is still to have the movie out in the Summer of 2009. He seemed a little hesitant about it but did his best to try and reassure that it will get done by then. I asked if he could give any more info on the film. He responded, "There are TWO villains," and he smiled."

Hmn, seems Mike is also skeptical about the 2009 release.

[Prolific]

damn, you beat me but this is great news. i hope zods 1 of those villians

[BrollySupersj]

Metallo and Brainiac...please oh please oh please!!

[Cory]

sadly one of the villains is gonna be Lex Luthor.

[storyteller]

And those to villians better not be lex and zod. If lex is one of them then he better don a battle suit.

[Rezzo]

One is probably Lex and I can only dream that the other is Brainiac or Doomsday

[BrollySupersj]

If one does end up being Lex, the other better damn well be Metallo. He'd make out for a BIG EPIC action sequence.

[Showtime]

Already posted this.

[Mauser9910]

Triple duh on the rocks : Spacey was confirmed and the franchise needing an emergency shot of action, he couldn't be the only villain.
I'm not holding my breath over this though, if there's already plans to make a JLA film before a sequel to Superman Returns.

[Compi716]

Anything but Zod, I say.

I'll even take Mxyzptlk.

[nighthunter]

villain #1 = lex luthor (kevin spacey has confirmed he will return)
villain #2 = zod

and we will have basically a remake of superman 2 as much as superman returns is a remake of superman 1.

singer needs to wise up and realize that the success of the spider-man and batman series is based on the fact that we get to see new super-villains each time.

bring on metallo or brainiac.

[avpmaster132004]

*praying for Bizarro and Metallo*

[storyteller]

I would like to see bizzaro and brainiac. Hell i would like to see LEXIAC.

[Showtime]

Lexiac? No thanks.

[darknight7]

sadly one of the villains is gonna be Lex Luthor.

Agreed, I thought this as soon as I read that there are 2 villains.

Obviously LEX is one of the 2

--dk7

[Katsuro]

Brainiac, without a doubt. Obviously Lex is the other.

[BrollySupersj]

Triple duh on the rocks : Spacey was confirmed and the franchise needing an emergency shot of action, he couldn't be the only villain.
I'm not holding my breath over this though, if there's already plans to make a JLA film before a sequel to Superman Returns.


There won't be a JLA movie before this, the SR sequel is already in pre-production and script is being made.

[dark_b]

i dont want to sound like a hater or lexlives. but am i reading this right? basicly they wrottewhat a member wrotte when he talked to the writte.
and didnt they already mentioned months ago that there will be two badguys?

to me this is nto news. but ok i am happy because give singer a second chance.

[Obi-John-Kenobi]

I knew Lex would be back, but I hope Satan that Zod isn't the other bad-guy. I'll take TOYMAN for Pete's sake!

[Sharkfestation]

The two villains I hope to see is either Lex Luther and Darkseid or Brainiac and Doomsday.

[dark_b]

there will always be fear that zod will come back.

[Obi-John-Kenobi]

there will always be fear that zod will come back.
Don't say that. You'll give me nightmares.:csad:

[Tempest19]

They need Lex Luthor, imo, he's an important character in the mythos. Yeah, he's a villain- but, he is also a schemer who often lures the other villains to Superman as well. That's one of the things I love about the character... I don't think they can ever be a Superman film without- to some extent- Lex Luthor, Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, Perry White, and Martha Kent. That's kind of like taking away Spider-Man's main supporting cast and calling it a day... it's just something you do not do... Imo, he's that essential to the mythos. Not saying he has to be the main bad guy, but present to some extent.

Also in the behind the scenes and visual guide it is MORE than hinted at that the estate Lex inherits will turn into LexCorp.

"...expand Vanderworth company into a vast international conglomerate. His wealth brought even more fame to Metropolis and the city- including its newspaper, The Daily Planet- happily sang his praises."

It goes on to state that Lex inherits the ENTIRE Vanderworth fortune! And a part of me believes that this would be the beginnings of LexCorp. There was a point in which The Daily Planet was under Lexcorp. Who has the entire story about what happened that day? The people at the Planet, now it wouldn't surprise me if Lex swings in- fires Lois, Jimmy Olsen, etc. and threatens Perry White possibly.

SR showed him attaining this estate, this is how I think he will come to use it. Sounds very suspicious to me, personally... So those looking for corporate Lex- I'm betting you, right now, it's going to be introduced at the very least. They already planeted the seed for that.

I'd love to see Brainiac be the second villain. Perhaps have this story very similar to Brainiac's introduction story in Superman TAS? Now that would be fckin awesome!

Lex Luthor & Brainiac = FCK YEAH MAN!!!!

Lex Luthor & Zod = Begins to cry... please not Superman II.The New One. Anything but that!

[dark_b]

Don't say that. You'll give me nightmares.:csad:go to BT.net. there you have a big number of zod fans.
''wouldtn it really be so bad if zod returns''.

now imagine the writters and singer visiting this forum. a disaster can happen.

[Obi-John-Kenobi]

go to BT.net. there you have a big number of zod fans.
''wouldtn it really be so bad if zod returns''.

now imagine the writters and singer visiting this forum. a disaster can happen.
No. No.

[Motown Marvel]

it'll be some combination of either lex, brainiac, and metallo.

and if you remember, singer had originally planned on having Zod in SR, but didnt want anyone other than jude law. so, when that didnt happen, they pulled zod from the script. obviously the movie and its story was unfortunately scaled back because of that (the land scheme re-hash may very well have been a result of such). so, i can only imagine that if singer went to such great lengths there without zod, he wouldnt suddenly be like "f**k it, lets toss him in the sequel". plus, i think singer is well aware of a lot of criticisms for SR...one being relying too much on the donner universe. i think he'll be looking to make MOS much more of his own.

[Sharkfestation]

I hope Metallo isn't the second villain because one of the main reasons why SR was bashed was because of Singer using Kryptonite all over again as Superman's weakness. Also how many times have you seen a robot on flim? Audiences want to see something they haven't seen before. Metallo is no different then the Kryptonite continent in SR. Doomsday would be a better choice if you don't use the Death and Return storyline. Doomsday is a great visual and audiences don't see monsters looking like that in every scince fiction movie. So Brainiac and Doomsday as the villains would be gold.

[Motown Marvel]

Also how many times have you seen a robot on flim?[quote?]

psh, not nearly enough!

[quote]So Brainiac and Doomsday as the villains would be gold.
err, brainiac is a robot.

[greenfront]

I think, given the fact that the movie's called "The Man of Steel", that the second villain after Lex will be Metallo, as the title would then be interestingly parallelled between Superman and Metallo.

Could be Brainiac, though, but I would name the Brainiac movie "The Man of Tomorrow".

I'd prefer Brainiac, but we'll obviously have to wait and see.

[Sharkfestation]

Brainaic is different, he is Artificial intelligence of advanced alien orgin with
a lot powers to bring Superman to his knees without a rock.

Superhuman strength
Physical resistance
Telepathy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telepathy)
Telekinesis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telekinesis)
Ability to manipulate energy derived from cybernetic form.Metallo is pretty much just a guy with a rock in his chest.

[Motown Marvel]

ha, well, thats simplifying metallo a bit much, i still think he's a rad character that would do great on film. i can see the kryptonite thing maybe being a bit redundant though. i thought it'd be best if brainiac and lex work together, using the kryptonian tech provided by brainiac, lex creates metallo. but there can be a larger plan set in motion by brainiac as well, and there can be a big showdown between supes and brainiac. either way, im cool with both characters.

[FlawlessVictory]

Also in the behind the scenes and visual guide it is MORE than hinted at that the estate Lex inherits will turn into LexCorp.

"...expand Vanderworth company into a vast international conglomerate. His wealth brought even more fame to Metropolis and the city- including its newspaper, The Daily Planet- happily sang his praises."

That's interesting but considering how he tried to destroy the entire planet and Superman was there as a witness, I don't see how this is possible. People will believe Superman that Lex tried to kill billions of people especially b/c of Lex's checkered past. I've heard people mention that Lex can threaten Superman because he has knowlege of Jason and therefore can get away with a Lexcorp, I don't buy that. Superman is not gonna be a puss and back down like that, he's friggin Superman for christ's sake! He can crush Lex like a bug.

Lex Luthor & Brainiac = FCK YEAH MAN!!!!

:up:

Lex Luthor & Zod = Begins to cry... please not Superman II.The New One. Anything but that!

If we get Luthor and Zod, then I'll know Singer and his boys won't have an original bone in their body when it comes to Superman except for Superkid. :csad:

[LostSon88]

http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=6141

"A user on BlueTights' The Planet Forum got a chance to meet Superman: Man of Steel co-writer Michael Dougherty at the U.S. Capitol and asked him about the sequel:

I asked him if he was a part of the sequel because everything I have seen says Singer and [Dan] Harris are writing the script and that he isn't mentioned. He confirmed that he is writing it with the two just like the last picture. I then expressed to him that I was hoping the delays of Superman: The Man of Steel weren't true. He said that they were on track and that the goal is still to have the movie out in the Summer of 2009. He seemed a little hesitant about it but did his best to try and reassure that it will get done by then. I asked if he could give any more info on the film. He responded, "[B]There are TWO villains," and he smiled."

Hmn, seems Mike is also skeptical about the 2009 release.

Yeah...and one of them is Lex Luthor. :dry:

This isn't really news, IMO as we've known for a while now that they're gonna introduce a new villian for Superman: MOS and that its an alien threat.

Move along people, nothing to see here. :cwink:

[BrollySupersj]

Brainaic is different, he is Artificial intelligence of advanced alien orgin with
a lot powers to bring Superman to his knees without a rock.
Superhuman strength
Physical resistance
Telepathy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telepathy)
Telekinesis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telekinesis)
Ability to manipulate energy derived from cybernetic form.Metallo is pretty much just a guy with a rock in his chest.

Metallo can be depicted as MUCH more then that.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l169/BrollySupersj/metallo.gif

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l169/BrollySupersj/metallo2.jpg

IF Metallo ends up being one of the villains he can make a really good frightening and threating villain to Superman.

[Qwerty©]

villain #1 = lex luthor (kevin spacey has confirmed he will return)
villain #2 = zod

and we will have basically a remake of superman 2 as much as superman returns is a remake of superman 1.

singer needs to wise up and realize that the success of the spider-man and batman series is based on the fact that we get to see new super-villains each time.

bring on metallo or brainiac.
Shut up. You have no reason to believe this, there has been nothing said by Singer or the writers to indicate this, so stop acting like you know anything about how they act or think.

[dude love]

Wonder Woman: Who is this Zod, Superman?

Superman: Zod's dead baby, Zod's dead.

Didn't Routh say that Zod wasn't going to be in SR2, anyway? As far as two villains, I think Luthor might not be one of them. Sure Spacey will be in SR2, but I think he'll be in the background.

[Grinder]

What da hell? So now gossip from message boards is allowed to hit the front page as official news!? WOW!!! :o

So, guess what guys, I just met Tom Welling in some grocery store and he confirmed that he'd play Superman in the JLA movie!!! Oh, and he told me it's released in late June 2009 and Spielberg is the director!!! Darkseid will be the main villain. Batman and Wonder Woman will have a romantic story and John Stewart will die in the end.
Hope I didn't spoil it for you ...

Please put this on the front page, I'm really telling you the truth!!! Really!!!

:hyper:

[dark_b]

Wonder Woman: Who is this Zod, Superman?

Superman: Zod's dead baby, Zod's dead.

Didn't Routh say that Zod wasn't going to be in SR2, anyway? As far as two villains, I think Luthor might not be one of them. Sure Spacey will be in SR2, but I think he'll be in the background.brandon is nto in the position IMO to say who will be and who will not be in the movie in 2007.

[dude love]

brandon is nto in the position IMO to say who will be and who will not be in the movie in 2007.

Or maybe he's keeping in touch with them and that's what they told him? He's in a better position than you and me.

[Delete]

It is so going to be Zod. Coming in 2009 Superman 2 2.

[nighthunter]

Shut up. You have no reason to believe this, there has been nothing said by Singer or the writers to indicate this, so stop acting like you know anything about how they act or think.

oh but i do, in fact they're planning to bring back richard pryor's character and solar man. :whatever:

[Steelsheen]

I would like to see bizzaro and brainiac. Hell i would like to see LEXIAC.

ohhhh yeah! :up:

[wellsy]

oh but i do, in fact they're planning to bring back richard pryor's character and solar man. :whatever:
Sarcastic or not, Zod won't be in. Singer knows he's received a lot of flak for using a Donner-esque plot in SR, and he isn't going to repeat. He's too smart for that.

And no, I'm not joking with that "Singer is smart" concept. He'd be an absolute fool to ignore the fans.

RE the OP, I'd have to say the Luthor is one of them. Brainiac is my bet for the other one. Those two would be cool.

And I can see Lex going Corporate villain. It has been set up.

[scabab]

im fed up with Lex i want brainiac and metallo

[Delete]

Sarcastic or not, Zod won't be in. Singer knows he's received a lot of flak for using a Donner-esque plot in SR, and he isn't going to repeat. He's too smart for that.

And no, I'm not joking with that "Singer is smart" concept. He'd be an absolute fool to ignore the fans.

RE the OP, I'd have to say the Luthor is one of them. Brainiac is my bet for the other one. Those two would be cool.

And I can see Lex going Corporate villain. It has been set up.

How had it been set up?

[Morg]

One is probably Lex and I can only dream that the other is Brainiac or Doomsday

Lex is most likely, Doomsday? Not so much

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Didnt the writer's make it pretty obvious Brainiac will be in this one not so long ago?

One of them said something to the effect "We need someone of more intellegence than Lex in the sequel, but someone who is also a physical threat to Superman." Paraphrasing here of course but something along those lines was said.

[Morg]

Didnt the writer's make it pretty obvious Brainiac will be in this one not so long ago?

One of them said something to the effect "We need someone of more intellegence than Lex in the sequel, but someone who is also a physical threat to Superman." Paraphrasing here of course but something along those lines was said.

That could be said about Darkseid but I think it's too soon for Darkseid, hell they should use him in the Justice League movie

[dark_b]

Didnt the writer's make it pretty obvious Brainiac will be in this one not so long ago?

One of them said something to the effect "We need someone of more intellegence than Lex in the sequel, but someone who is also a physical threat to Superman." Paraphrasing here of course but something along those lines was said.did they?

[Justice Bringer]

Brandon Routh: "Everyone wants Brainiac" - IESB interview

Theres no doubt Brainiac is the most likely choice for this. Mike, Dan and Bryan have confirmed its an alien villian whos *not* Zod; it has to be Brainiac.

[Morg]

Brainiac(with poll goodness now), Metallo and Lex

[Justice Bringer]

This poll = fail. Brainiac should have been up there from the start.

[dark_b]

Brandon Routh: "Everyone wants Brainiac" - IESB interview

Theres no doubt Brainiac is the most like ly choice for this. Mike, Dan and Bryan have confirmed its an alien villian whos *not* Zod; it has to be Brainiac.
branon routh reads hes web site and he reads BT.net.

so when they asked him he said everyone wants brainiac. because this is what he saw on the forums. :dry:

[Justice Bringer]

Nope. He admited that he hasnt read the boards since the release of the film.

So obviously he wouldnt know what the fans want for the sequel; 'everyone' may be referencing the writers.

[GreenKToo]

I still think either film could happen for 09.
I'm sure Mike does think its gonna happen, but only W.B. knows at this point which one they wanna make. That is *IF* they even know yet.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

That could be said about Darkseid but I think it's too soon for Darkseid, hell they should use him in the Justice League movie

I agree, its far too soon, you spend a whole movie just on Darkseid himself, he wont show up until at least the 3rd or JL IMO.

did they?

Yeah, it was posted here a while ago.

Brandon Routh: "Everyone wants Brainiac" - IESB interview

Theres no doubt Brainiac is the most likely choice for this. Mike, Dan and Bryan have confirmed its an alien villian whos *not* Zod; it has to be Brainiac.

Thats another reason to think we'll get Brainiac as well.

[GreenKToo]

I would be happy for either film in 09'.
Whenever the do make a J.L., I really hope the make it like Lotr, and stretch it out for three films.

[Justice Bringer]

I don't see that happening because then WB wouldnt be able to use these characters for individual franchaises....unless the team roster changes between films.

[Darkly Dexter]

http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=6141

Hmn, seems Mike is also skeptical about the 2009 release.

well, WB expects to release the Justice League movie before Superman.

[GreenKToo]

If they really wanted to go big, they could do origin films in between the J.L. films. I doubt they'd do that, but still it would be great.

[bumblebear]

ok 2 villians so i do belive it total 3 villians

1. lex luger
2. zod (hopefully)
3.Brainiac

[Superman1314]

well, WB expects to release the Justice League movie before Superman.

They have said nothing of the sort. Just because some guy posted that at the end of a little news bit does not make it fact.

WB won't put all their major A list characters in a movie that would tarnish them, ruining their chances at successful solo films. Individual movies would make more money than a JLA movie anyway. More potential to rake in the cash for Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern seperately than all together.

If a JLA movie is made, and I've said this before, it won't b e A list characters when it's all said and done. It will be something like Martain Manhunter, Zatana, Plastic Man, Guy Gardner and Blue Beetle.

Please, please show me something from WB that says they expect JLA before Superman if you do indeed believe it to be fact.

[ultimatefan]

I think people are betting way too much on the JLA movie thing. It´d be an incredibly expensive movie with a lot of complications - do you use Batman and Superman, do you use the Nolan and Singer versions, can you get Bale, do you want to introduce important characters like WW and Flash to feature films in an ensamble piece, etc. Not to say it won´t happen, but it doesn´t seem like the best bet at this point.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

They have said nothing of the sort. Just because some guy posted that at the end of a little news bit does not make it fact.

WB won't put all their major A list characters in a movie that would tarnish them, ruining their chances at successful solo films. Individual movies would make more money than a JLA movie anyway. More potential to rake in the cash for Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern seperately than all together.

If a JLA movie is made, and I've said this before, it won't b e A list characters when it's all said and done. It will be something like Martain Manhunter, Zatana, Plastic Man, Guy Gardner and Blue Beetle.

Please, please show me something from WB that says they expect JLA before Superman if you do indeed believe it to be fact.

Exactly, plus, and JLA movie would more than likely cost A LOT more than an SR sequel. I just dont see WB risking it, at least not for a while.

[Closerframe]

Lex Luthor and Brainiac

[GreenKToo]

ok 2 villians so i do belive it total 3 villians

1. lex luger
2. zod (hopefully)
3.Brainiac

He was a good wrestler.:woot:

[Matt]

How exactly is this confirmation of anything? A guy on a message board claiming he met Dan Harris who was just willing to sit down and discuss a pending movie with a random person. If this were of negative corolation everyone would be jumping all over how unlikely it is. I'm not saying its untrue...but don't be so gullible guys.

[Justice Bringer]

I'm surprised it made the SHH frontpage; but I believe it personally since I know that poster is somewhat trustworthy and isnt even that much of a fan of the film; despite sucking up to Mike and saying he was. The visual evidence from the picture helps too.

But none of this news is surprising; we've heard Singer and his writers emphasize the 'villianSSS' thing for a while now.

[FlawlessVictory]

I think people are betting way too much on the JLA movie thing. It´d be an incredibly expensive movie with a lot of complications - do you use Batman and Superman,

As the two most prominent members of JLA, that would seem to have an obvious answer. Plus, various sources have confirmed that the script includes Superman and Batman.

do you use the Nolan and Singer versions,

I bet you are putting more thought into this than WB and the Mulroneys who wrote the script. They just want Batman and Superman in the thing, I doubt they are worried which "version" they need to put in there.

can you get Bale,

Why are there people asking this question? Did he just retire from acting? Did I miss something? Why would Bale be all of a sudden so elusive to get? Has he said that he hates playing Batman? He's already hinted that he's game for a JLA movie plus, the 3rd movie in his Batman contract states that it could be a team-up of some sort.

do you want to introduce important characters like WW and Flash to feature films in an ensamble piece, etc.

I wouldn't want to do it that way, but again, this is WB, I doubt character development is #1 on their list with this movie. They just want to throw something together that they think can get them huge returns.

[dengueman]

Lex and Brainiac

something like Brainiac asking Luthor for help and in return he helps Luthor get rid of Superman which then leads to Braniac seizing control of every mainframe computer whatever technology in the world forcing Lex and Supes to work together in the interest of survival.

[Superman1314]

FlawlessVictory: """I wouldn't want to do it that way, but again, this is WB, I doubt character development is #1 on their list with this movie. They just want to throw something together that they think can get them huge returns."""


^^
Which is why I fear this movie. If this movie gets made, the lack of character development will piss ppl off, thus shotting themselves in the foot for quite a while if they ever wanted to use it as a launchpad for new franchises.

This movie in this fassion ultimately won't get made. I'm sure of it.

[Cyrusbales]

I think the second villain should be either Metallo or Braniac. Most likely Braniac.