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Super Kal
01-29-2008, 11:38 AM
http://superman.ugo.com/images/galleries/superman_enemies_comics/brainiac_1_180.jpg
:up:

AVEITWITHJAMON
01-29-2008, 01:09 PM
Braniac or The Eradicator should be used for MOS, but if we get a 3rd movie, its gotta be Darkseid or Doomsday.

Ultimate_Superman
01-29-2008, 01:53 PM
To be honest I would do something like Superman: TAS did and use these two movies to introduce Darkseid. Which is why I don't see why the WB turned the idea down. Darkseid is pure badass and would give the action you want and more.

Mostpowerful
01-29-2008, 04:06 PM
Lex Luthor real estate scam! j/k

Braniac, with build up to Darkseid.

Yes.
Plus Lex pulling the strings in the back.

Nightwing1977
01-29-2008, 06:37 PM
:up:

I knew many love his mustache. You just can't ignore the "evil" of his mustache!! :D :D

That'ssuper!
01-29-2008, 08:32 PM
It should have a single villain for each film, and plenty of story like the Spider-Man films originally had intended. His best should go in order.

Luthor
Metallo
Bizarro
General Zod
Brainiac
Darkseid
Doomsday

DoctorJones
02-04-2008, 07:30 AM
I go with Brainiac and Luthor.

DoctorJones
02-04-2008, 07:31 AM
Whoops, double post.

VenomsMom
02-04-2008, 10:14 AM
Eradicator. excellent choice.

Venom'sDad
02-04-2008, 01:31 PM
:sleepy:

VenomsMom
02-04-2008, 03:18 PM
:sleepy:
:super: VS Eradicator :up:

Nightwing1977
02-05-2008, 12:33 AM
I go with Brainiac and Luthor.

It would be cool if they use the team up like the 2 did before in the comics. Also in the Dini/Timm's animated universe too. :up:

Showtime
02-05-2008, 07:59 AM
Main Villians: Metallo-Bizzaro-Luthor
Lesser Villians: Morgan Edge & Intergang

dark_b
02-05-2008, 08:05 AM
brainiac for christ sake. he is inteligent and he can fight superman.

metallo and bizzaro IMO are not smart enough.

Showtime
02-05-2008, 08:29 AM
I wouldn't mind a Metallo and Braniac combination either. Braniac is pretty cool, but the version I want to see involved Metallo and Bizzaro.

dark_b
02-05-2008, 09:45 AM
and who would be the brain?
who would have the master plan?

AVEITWITHJAMON
02-05-2008, 12:44 PM
I'm more and more edging towards The Eradicator, i think he would make a great villain, and in a sequel, he could even become a cool ally.

He is stronger than Brainiac, his blasts are just as strong, and from what i have read, he is quite smart also.

Showtime
02-05-2008, 12:45 PM
and who would be the brain?
who would have the master plan?

I already listed Lex above.

VenomsMom
02-05-2008, 05:00 PM
I'm more and more edging towards The Eradicator, i think he would make a great villain, and in a sequel, he could even become a cool ally.

He is stronger than Brainiac, his blasts are just as strong, and from what i have read, he is quite smart also.
I most certainly agree with this. I am rooting for him.

gspot
02-05-2008, 07:57 PM
I'd love to see Brainiac for the villain, but don't think they should get rid of Kevin Spacey as Lex yet. I think there is plenty of space for both to fit into a script - provided they approach Lex in a new fashion.

If it was me writing - instead of writing Lex as the big baddie of the film, I'd want to see his self serving Lex first attempt to guile Brainiac into a partnership and when that would fail - it would only make sense that Lex would do a 180 and jump into the fray to help mankind defeat the menace of Brainiac (all the while planning how to make the most of the opportunities that his technology could offer him). That would be an interesting dilemma for the Man of Steel - having to accept the help of his most hated enemy to defeat Brainiac and save his loved ones.

Eventually Brainiac's defeat could lead to a pardon of Lex's past crimes, and his technology could lead Lex to build his financial empire and one day - his super suit?

bruce_kent
02-20-2008, 06:32 PM
My suggestions for a villians are:


- Metallo (John Corben) or The Parasite (Rudy Jones)



- Livewire (Leslie Willis) or Volcana (Claire Selton)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/30/Livewire.gifhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6f/Volcana.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/Metallo2_1_.gifhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d1/Parasitedc.jpg



With the Luthor (Lex) in the head of the villians.

Bye.


P.D: Kevin Bacon (Hollow Man) I Think is a good option for a John Corben.

Norm3
02-20-2008, 09:45 PM
I hope if they use Brainiac they keep his look & not make him look human.

The Joker_1000
02-21-2008, 02:28 AM
Yeah, he should look more robotic. It shouldn't look like the incarnation from TAS but it should be something interesting that will catch our eye.

Noir
03-16-2008, 08:03 PM
Jean Reno as Brainiac!

X-Maniac
03-16-2008, 08:14 PM
I want plenty of sc-fi wow in the sequel. Bring it on.

GreenKToo
03-16-2008, 08:29 PM
I'd like to see Brainiac as the main villain for the majority of the film, then after he is defeated by Supes toward the end, we see that Darkseid had really been in control the whole time, thereby setting up the 3rd film.

Noir
03-16-2008, 08:33 PM
I'd like to see Brainiac assimilate the city and supes defeats him by flying into the power core of his ship as he tries to get away that creates a wormhole, people think Supes is dead then in the next movie we find out he's just on Apokolips and Darkseid starts training him like he is his son (Just like that S:TAS)

X-Maniac
03-16-2008, 08:35 PM
The only issue is that Brainiac has been in Smallville, so he has already been seen on screen.

Sod the 'nostalgic, romantic' movie stuff, give us epicness and wowness!

Mostpowerful
03-16-2008, 08:39 PM
I want plenty of sc-fi wow in the sequel. Bring it on.

AGREED!!



I'd like to see Brainiac as the main villain for the majority of the film, then after he is defeated by Supes toward the end, we see that Darkseid had really been in control the whole time, thereby setting up the 3rd film.

YES, ME TOO!!

Mostpowerful
03-16-2008, 08:44 PM
I read in another forum that maybe one of the villains (Lex or Brainiac) could kidnap Jason and make everybody believe that he is dead...that would make Supes Super-pissed!! :wow: And it would be a great way to test his no-killing code, IMO. And at some point Supes learns that Jason isn't really dead, because you can't kill a kid in a Superman movie.

FlawlessVictory
03-16-2008, 09:00 PM
I read in another forum that maybe one of the villains (Lex or Brainiac) could kidnap Jason and make everybody believe that he is dead...that would make Supes Super-pissed!! :wow: And it would be a great way to test his no-killing code, IMO. And at some point Supes learns that Jason isn't really dead, because you can't kill a kid in a Superman movie.

By the time they film this movie, will Tristan Lake Leabu even still be a kid anymore? :wow::woot: But in all seriousness, the writers will be handcuffed with the timeframe they can use between SR and MOS. For example, if Singer and the writers wanted the story to pick up a few months or a year after SR, they can't do that. Tristan is already too big for that to be believable.

Mostpowerful
03-16-2008, 09:31 PM
By the time they film this movie, will Tristan Lake Leabu even still be a kid anymore? :wow::woot: But in all seriousness, the writers will be handcuffed with the timeframe they can use between SR and MOS. For example, if Singer and the writers wanted the story to pick up a few months or a year after SR, they can't do that. Tristan is already too big for that to be believable.

Recast Jason if necessary. It really depends on the story they want to tell. Tristan did a great job, IMO, but they can find a younger kid that looks like him.:cwink:

X-Maniac
03-17-2008, 07:33 AM
They'll need to recast the kid, or reuse Tristan but have a real-time lapse between the two movies. I'm so unsure of the kid being part of the Superman mythos that I don't really care.

The Joker_1000
03-25-2008, 11:21 PM
I doubt he needs to be recast, unless they wait too long to make the sequel.

zerohour films
03-25-2008, 11:47 PM
Hopefully he won't have to be recast. As kid actors go he was really good in the movie.

The Joker_1000
03-25-2008, 11:51 PM
If they wait too long to make the movie and he gets too old for the role, he'll have to be recast.

AVEITWITHJAMON
03-26-2008, 12:25 PM
I really hope we one day get to see Preus as a Superman villain in a movie one of these days. Obviously his origin would have to be slightly changed, but i thought he was an awesome villain in 'Godfall' and 'In The Name Of Gog.'

Nightwing1977
03-26-2008, 06:40 PM
If they wait too long to make the movie and he gets too old for the role, he'll have to be recast.

Yep. Or don't use the character at all. I doubt we'll ever see Tristan again in a Superman movie. He will likely be 10 yrs. old if MoS get made next year.

\S/JcDc\S/
03-26-2008, 07:00 PM
He was pretty tiny so I'm sure he'll still pass for like 8 or 9. Give it a couple/few years into future for sequel. Should be fine imo.

The Joker_1000
03-26-2008, 08:19 PM
I hope so.

Now, getting back to the villains, if we get Doomsday, do you guys think that Doomsday shouldn't have the hair? I think so, he'd look better without it.

Nirvana
04-10-2008, 06:24 PM
My opinion is not in the Singer realm, but rather if they did a reboot:

First film: Lex Luthor and Metallo
Second film: Lex Luthor and Brainiac
Third film: Lex Luthor, Doomsday, Darkseid

Showtime
04-10-2008, 06:28 PM
I think Braniac, Eradicator, Doomsday, Bizzaro, and Metallo all fit with what Singer established in SR.

\S/JcDc\S/
04-10-2008, 06:44 PM
I don't think Bizarro should ever be in a Superman film. Brainiac, Eradictor, Doomsday, Metallo, Parasite, and Lex however all fit in well.

FilmNerdJamie
04-10-2008, 06:53 PM
Nick Frost as Mr. Mxyzptlk

phoenixflight
04-23-2008, 06:54 PM
Brainiac...WOW!!! Who should play him in the sequel and what should Brainiac look like?

solidsnake86
04-23-2008, 11:30 PM
I hope its brainiac and if its delayed till 2010 theres an upcomming story with him in the comics that could possibly provide a basis, since their are so many different versions. I know a lot of people are opposed to zod again, but I would think for a third one, if it happens, would be the best choice. They could really create an amazing story line and I would encourage people to read Action Comics Annual 10 and the last son story arc because I think it really fleshes out the character a lot better. It really changed my opinion on zod and its not even done yet.

I Am The Knight
04-23-2008, 11:38 PM
People see Zod as a "been there, done that" type of deal, but I think it would be cool to see him (yes, again) in the sequel. I always wanted Brainiac and Zod as the villains for MOS. But, I don't think they would include Zod....They probably don't want to "offend" the haters any more, LOL...

solidsnake86
04-23-2008, 11:59 PM
lol, good point, but if they did a good brainiac storyline and set up zod for the third I think this series would really be amazing. Something along the lines of brainiac doing something to open the phantom zone (which with todays technology they could do something incredible). Even just showing three ships landing near the fortress at the end of the second one as a teaser for the third, one can only hope. I think the haters have to take a look at what they actually want. Everyone says Darkseid, but he's not an exclusive superman villain and is better suited to a JLA movie. Not to mention everyone would hate to see a waterdown version of him. I personally think the phantom zone prisoners, not just the main three but others being released as well, would be a great storyline.

Snickers
04-24-2008, 12:00 AM
chuck norris


snickers

Nightwing1977
04-24-2008, 04:28 AM
People see Zod as a "been there, done that" type of deal, but I think it would be cool to see him (yes, again) in the sequel. I always wanted Brainiac and Zod as the villains for MOS. But, I don't think they would include Zod....They probably don't want to "offend" the haters any more, LOL...

I personally never want to see Zod in a Superman again. We need a new villian we never see in a movie before. Plus, I don't want to hear another "MoS is a remake of Superman 2" if they use Zod again, like some said about SR to STM. :p

Patty
04-24-2008, 05:35 AM
Zod for the 2nd, Doomsday for the 3rd would be neat.

I SEE SPIDEY
04-24-2008, 04:16 PM
As I keep saying, if a sequel is made I wouldn't be surprised if Zod was the villain. It fits in with Singer's obsession with Richard Donner's inturpitation of The Man Of Steel.

In 2016 prepare for Nuclear Man to be revisted.

And yes, I'm well aware of the fact that Donner only directed like 1 and half Superman movies.

charl_huntress
04-24-2008, 08:37 PM
Jeeze...this question has been asked a million times here. I'm still voting for Doomsday, but I don't want a sequel so I'll keep watching my STAS cartoons and JL/JLU.

turtlefocker
04-27-2008, 03:37 PM
I like him better than Darkseid because he has a more cinematic name and less baggage, meaning if Hollywood wants to change things about him comic fans won't get as pissed as they would if it was Darkseid.

Patty
04-30-2008, 07:59 PM
Id like to see General Zod kill Supes son (Or kidnap, since itll more than likely be pg-13) that would make Supes EXTREMELY dark and angry, and Ive always wanted to see the MOS extremely pissed at the world and on a mission to get vengance. And since Zod is the only villian Supes is matched up with, I think itd be really dope to see them both fighting with the intent to murder the other. I dunno, its just my humble opinion and its prolly WAAAY too dark for a Superman flick. Still, itd be really cool to see him on a kill lust since its so out of character for him.

turtlefocker
04-30-2008, 08:16 PM
Mongul and Parasite...

X-Maniac
05-01-2008, 02:17 PM
I talked villain possibilities in my blog, partly in an attempt to put the pros and cons in my own head so I could make a decision.

The blog is here: http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2008/04/name-your-preferred-supervilla.html

Although I didn't come to a decision in the blog, I think Mongul is not a good idea. It sounds like something to do with Down's syndrome (Mongolism) and an alien warrior won't easily fit into the franchise. Darkseid is too way out for the next movie. Metallo might be too like Transformers if they weren't careful.

Best choices would be Brainiac, Doomsday or Eradicator, someone who could link to the previous movie if indeed Man of Steel will be a continuation and not a reboot. Although Eradicator should really have been an accomplice to Lex in SR, as Eradicator has tried to terraform Earth into a New Krypton just as Lex was doing.

I'd appreciate your thoughts and comments, on my blog as well as on here.

VenomsMom
05-07-2008, 11:58 PM
I talked villain possibilities in my blog, partly in an attempt to put the pros and cons in my own head so I could make a decision.

The blog is here: http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2008/04/name-your-preferred-supervilla.html

Although I didn't come to a decision in the blog, I think Mongul is not a good idea. It sounds like something to do with Down's syndrome (Mongolism) and an alien warrior won't easily fit into the franchise. Darkseid is too way out for the next movie. Metallo might be too like Transformers if they weren't careful.

Best choices would be Brainiac, Doomsday or Eradicator, someone who could link to the previous movie if indeed Man of Steel will be a continuation and not a reboot. Although Eradicator should really have been an accomplice to Lex in SR, as Eradicator has tried to terraform Earth into a New Krypton just as Lex was doing.

I'd appreciate your thoughts and comments, on my blog as well as on here.
I say if there is a follow up to SR then they should go with Eradicator. It seems to fit in with what ever the hell Singer was trying to set up which at this point is an enigma.

NewYorkSpider
05-08-2008, 12:56 AM
Metallo.

The Guard
05-08-2008, 11:20 AM
The list of villains that would be appropriate is small. Luthor, Braniac, Zod, Darkseid. The Parasite, Metallo, Toyman, Intergang these could be used as supporting characters/subplot threats. I'd rather not see Doomsday.

Super Kal
05-08-2008, 11:21 AM
no more Zod... he's been done to death.

The Guard
05-08-2008, 11:24 AM
No, he hasn't been "done to death". He's been done once, and it was cheesy as hell. It doesn't need to be. Even in the comics, where yes, he's showed up, General Zod has yet to reach what I would consider his full potential. He's been used as a "plot device" for the most part, and that's a crime. Bringing Zod in allows for a myriad of story possibilities. You could ally him with Braniac, bring the bottle city of Kandor into things. There's the obvious "Last son of Krypton" theme, there's the interaction between Superman, Zod and Superman's friends and allies. There's the nature of Zod as dictator/dominator...there's the revenge angle, there's Superman being forced to kill Zod to save his adopted world...

I Am The Knight
05-08-2008, 11:25 AM
no more Zod... he's been done to death.

So after TDK the Joker will have been done to death too? :yay: I'll pass the memo to WB that The Joker can never appear on any more Batman movies or it will be too much exposure for the character. Damn. There goes that amazing Batman trying to stop Two-Face from getting revenge on the Joker plot.

With that said, I want Brainiac for MOS...Eradicator would be cool also.

Dark Knight
05-08-2008, 12:56 PM
I think Braniac being in MOS is a no brainer IMO is some way shape or form and I would much rather see the Eradicator ahead of Zod.

Jim Caviezel would be a good choice for the Eradicator!

The Guard
05-08-2008, 01:00 PM
My thoughts are a comibination of Luthor and Braniac/The Eradicator in SUPERMAN FOREVER, with Metallo and The Parasite serving as supporting threats, and the return of General Zod in THE SUPERMAN FAMILY.

Dark Knight
05-08-2008, 01:00 PM
If Superman is going to have a villain to have a big time fight with then only candidates should be either Metallo, Doomsday or Eradicator.

Braniac he can fight....but the big time action/fight sequences should be with one of the 3.

Then again they can always save the CGI Doomsday for the JL movie along with Darkseid

Dark Knight
05-08-2008, 01:03 PM
Yeah for MOS....they should use the combo of Luthor/Braniac and either Metallo or Eradicator. Or maybe have Luthor/Braniac be the creator of the OMACS?

The more I think about it Darkseid being the creator of Doomsday for the JL movie would be good.

Mostpowerful
05-08-2008, 01:05 PM
Or Brainiac can build lots of robots for Supes to punch to his pleasure?

Dark Knight
05-08-2008, 01:07 PM
Or Brainiac can build lots of robots for Supes to puch to his pleasure?


Exactly....or Braniac giving Luthor tech to build those robots?

The Guard
05-08-2008, 01:10 PM
Braniac could build Metallo.

Dark Knight
05-08-2008, 01:20 PM
Braniac could build Metallo.


Very easily and far quicker then Luthor could....

Sharkfestation
05-08-2008, 02:59 PM
I don't want to see Metallo on film due to the fact Kryptonite has been done to death in the Superman films. Using Metallo would just be another poor excuise to use Kryptonite. I wouldn't mind Zod returning in less there is a new villain with him like Brainiac. Darkseid should either used in the final film of the Superman or Justice League franchise.

solidsnake86
05-08-2008, 03:04 PM
Guards right, zod hasnt been done in a way that can reach his full potential as a villain. I don't understand where this "he's been done to death" mentality comes from, it was one movie and it wasn't even good. Once again, read the last son story which the conclusion came out yesterday and you will see what a great villain he is when done properly. He's a better villain to put in a superman film than darkseid just for the amount of possibilities his character brings, phantom zone, krptonian criminals, ties with jor-el. With that said I would save him for a third film.

VenomsMom
05-08-2008, 03:04 PM
no more Zod... he's been done to death.
He has? Thats funny I thought he was done once? And it was back in 1980.

VenomsMom
05-08-2008, 03:10 PM
Guards right, zod hasnt been done in a way that can reach his full potential as a villain. I don't understand where this "he's been done to death" mentality comes from, it was one movie and it wasn't even good. Once again, read the last son story which the conclusion came out yesterday and you will see what a great villain he is when done properly. He's a better villain to put in a superman film than darkseid just for the amount of possibilities his character brings, phantom zone, krptonian criminals, ties with jor-el. With that said I would save him for a third film.
I liked SII and it was good for late seventies nostalgia fun for the whole family but we are talking about 28 years ago. Zod is a villain. Dangerous and corrupt and evil. The perfect ingredients for a villain who happens to have the same powers as Superman.

FlawlessVictory
05-08-2008, 03:10 PM
So after TDK the Joker will have been done to death too? :yay: I'll pass the memo to WB that The Joker can never appear on any more Batman movies or it will be too much exposure for the character. Damn. There goes that amazing Batman trying to stop Two-Face from getting revenge on the Joker plot.

With that said, I want Brainiac for MOS...Eradicator would be cool also.

Guards right, zod hasnt been done in a way that can reach his full potential as a villain. I don't understand where this "he's been done to death" mentality comes from, it was one movie and it wasn't even good. Once again, read the last son story which the conclusion came out yesterday and you will see what a great villain he is when done properly. He's a better villain to put in a superman film than darkseid just for the amount of possibilities his character brings, phantom zone, krptonian criminals, ties with jor-el. With that said I would save him for a third film.

He has? Thats funny I thought he was done once? And it was back in 1980.

The difference is, at least in the Batman films, as crappy as some of them were, at least we got to see other villains besides the Joker, (Penguin, Catwoman, Riddler, Two-Face, Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy and Bane). With the Superman films all we have seen is Luthor and Zod. Why go back to Zod when there are other Superman villains that can be used that we have not seen yet? I could understand if we have seen the Eradicator, Metallo, Brainiac and Parasite on film already. But we haven't! Lets bring a villain on screen we have yet to see!

FlawlessVictory
05-08-2008, 03:13 PM
I liked SII and it was good for late seventies nostalgia fun for the whole family but we are talking about 28 years ago. Zod is a villain. Dangerous and corrupt and evil. The perfect ingredients for a villain who happens to have the same powers as Superman.

Who looks just like a human. Nothing interesting visually and nothing that would get the general audience excited. Now, Brainiac on the other hand...

Super Kal
05-08-2008, 03:15 PM
The difference is, at least in the Batman films, as crappy as some of them were, at least we got to see other villains besides the Joker, (Penguin, Catwoman, Riddler, Two-Face, Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy and Bane). With the Superman films all we have seen is Luthor and Zod. Why go back to Zod when there are other Superman villains that can be used that we have not seen yet? I could understand if we have seen the Eradicator, Metallo, Brainiac and Parasite on film already. But we haven't! Lets bring a villain on screen we have yet to see!
exactly :up:

solidsnake86
05-08-2008, 03:23 PM
I want braniac for the next film too, don't get me wrong, but IMO villains like parasite and metallo can't really carry a movie, and I would rather see them as secondary. I would have liked to have seen them in SR.

I Am The Knight
05-08-2008, 03:31 PM
exactly :up:

That is not what you posted, though. Clearly you need other people to write more intelligent posts than you can so you can piggyback on them. And it doesn't really matter because Zod has not been done to death, at all. I DON'T even want Zod in MOS, but let's get real here and accept what's actually out there.

And before you get defensive, I'm not attacking you or saying that you're not intelligent. You're probably just lazy, wich is fine I guess.

VenomsMom
05-08-2008, 03:42 PM
Who looks just like a human. Nothing interesting visually and nothing that would get the general audience excited. Now, Brainiac on the other hand...
Well.....Im not endorsing Zod or anything for a sequel or reboot as my choice would be none other than Eradicator but to say we have had too much exposure to Zod and we have seen him before after not appearing on screen for 28 years is ridiculous.

Super Kal
05-08-2008, 03:55 PM
That is not what you posted, though. Clearly you need other people to write more intelligent posts than you can so you can piggyback on them. And it doesn't really matter because Zod has not been done to death, at all. I DON'T even want Zod in MOS, but let's get real here and accept what's actually out there.

And before you get defensive, I'm not attacking you or saying that you're not intelligent. You're probably just lazy, wich is fine I guess.
well, to me, he has bee done to death... because we've seen him in many incarnations in the comics, not to mention the many different releases of Superman II, and not to mention Zod showing up in Smallville...

he's a boring character to me now... he brings nothing new to the franchise, and if Singer DID decide to use Zod, then it would really feel like a cop-out to the Donner franchise... so I say no to Zod.

I Am The Knight
05-08-2008, 04:04 PM
Um, fine. Not sure how valid re-releases of Superman II are as an argument for the character's exposure but whatever. Chances are we won't be seeing Zod on the big screen anytime soon anyways.

solidsnake86
05-08-2008, 04:07 PM
everyones shown up in smallville so thats a moot point by now, joker is everywhere in batman's other media incarnations I don't see them complaining. I think everyone can agree that zod would not be the choice for a sequel, but if there was a third I think it would be a wrong move not to consider him.

The Guard
05-08-2008, 04:26 PM
Might as well repost this. My idea for MAN OF STEEL is to utilize Braniac as the villain, and bring Luthor back as a sort of "consultant". This would be mirroring the Luthor/supervillain dynamic of SUPERMAN II, but not the same dynamic. Braniac (not called that by everyone, of course, Vril Drox has a better ring to it), in an attempt to keep some thematic relevance and use New Krypton, would come from the remains of New Krypton. He would be a result of the artificial Kryptonian intelligent technology in the crystals Kitty dropped at the end of the movie developing further as New Krypton moved into space, and being affected by the continuous Kryptonite radiation, so that certain functions of the Kryptonian technology were eradicated. New Krypton would become a version of Braniac's skull ship, and Braniac would be something of a galactic seeder, dedicated to preserving and creating Kryptonian life. Haven't quite worked out how this could pose a threat to the Earth, but I'm sure it could be appropriately conceived. Superman and his human upbringing would prove to be an obstacle to the calculating superintelligence. With Luthor's assistance, Braniac would test Superman's mettle via the creation of the Kryptonite-driven Metallo, and ultimately, in a bid to make what he deemed an inferior Earth into the new Krypton, attempt to expose Superman's real weakness, his caring nature, by placing innocents and allies in harm's way.

Storywise, I'd have Richard and Lois setting a date for their wedding, and Clark's reaction to this, a la THE OFFICE. :). I'd keep Jason, and play up the angle that someday he's going to be a superhuman. Jason's arc would involve him coming to terms with being different/more powerful/better, as he watched the way Superman handles his powers and the threats to Earth. I wouldn't kill him off, but he'd come close to death. There would be a showdown above the Earth aboard Braniac's "skullship"/New Krypton. At the end of the movie, because of the issues involving Braniac, Superman would be forced to destroy all traces of his former homeworld, including Jor-El's crystals, in order to save Earth from Braniac.

Dark Knight
05-08-2008, 04:27 PM
Darkseid should either used in the final film of the Superman or Justice League franchise.


I agree...but preferably as the main baddie in the JL film.

bunk
05-08-2008, 04:36 PM
Storywise, I'd have Richard and Lois setting a date for their wedding, and Clark's reaction to this, a la THE OFFICE.


So who'd pull out the pepper spray and save Clark?

Maybe Jimmy.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-08-2008, 04:39 PM
I'm going to have to agree with the SR lovers, Zod has not been done to death, not by a long shot. If the first movie hadn't ripped off Donner's Superman I honestly wouldn't have cared if Zod was being considered for a sequel. Ofcourse that was in the strange world where I actually liked SR.

The Guard
05-08-2008, 04:41 PM
Not every plot point would come from THE OFFICE. :)

bunk
05-08-2008, 04:51 PM
Well I'm afraid I've lost interest then...

Sharkfestation
05-08-2008, 04:58 PM
I agree...but preferably as the main baddie in the JL film.
Well the White Martians should be the villians for the first JLA film(which I'm writing a script with them in it), then Legion of Doom in the second film, and the final film with the entire JLA and Green Lantern Corps. going up against Darkseid, his minions, and armies.

Sharkfestation
05-08-2008, 04:59 PM
I agree...but preferably as the main baddie in the JL film.
Well the White Martians should be the villians for the first JLA film(which I'm writing a script with them in it), then Legion of Doom in the second film, and the final film with the entire JLA and Green Lantern Corps. going up against Darkseid, his minions, and armies.

Sharkfestation
05-08-2008, 05:00 PM
Sorry for the double post.:csad:

Dark Knight
05-08-2008, 05:13 PM
Well the White Martians should be the villians for the first JLA film(which I'm writing a script with them in it), then Legion of Doom in the second film, and the final film with the entire JLA and Green Lantern Corps. going up against Darkseid, his minions, and armies.



I would think the LOD need to be left out of any JL film....too many of them and not enough time to explain where they come from and what there deal is.

Sharkfestation
05-08-2008, 05:20 PM
What mean is group of seven super villains( who's origins' are explained in the heroes' solo films) who are archenemy of one of Justice Leaguers like
Superman-Lex Luthor
Batman-Joker
Wonder Woman-Circe
J'onn J'onzz- Malefic
A Legion of Doom can pose a extreme threat to the Justice League both physically and emotionally like in the Justice League episode, Secret Society.

X-Maniac
05-08-2008, 05:47 PM
I say no to Zod. Apart from being in a Superman movie where people most likely remember Terence Stamp's portrayal and the 'kneel before Zod' stuff, he and the Phantom Zone were part of an entire series of Smallville.

Someone new, please. The Donnerverse can zod off...

Mostpowerful
05-08-2008, 07:20 PM
Guards right, zod hasnt been done in a way that can reach his full potential as a villain. I don't understand where this "he's been done to death" mentality comes from, it was one movie and it wasn't even good. Once again, read the last son story which the conclusion came out yesterday and you will see what a great villain he is when done properly. He's a better villain to put in a superman film than darkseid just for the amount of possibilities his character brings, phantom zone, krptonian criminals, ties with jor-el. With that said I would save him for a third film.

Agreed on everything.

terry78
05-08-2008, 07:47 PM
The reason we don't want Zod is because he is no eye candy. Honestly, he ain't. He's as powerful as Supes, but he looks like another damn human. We want someone that has to involve hours of makeup, costume, or CGI.

GreenKToo
05-08-2008, 08:12 PM
Brainiac, Darkseid, Mongul. Sooo many to pick from besides Zod.

solidsnake86
05-08-2008, 11:45 PM
of course people want eye candy and thats what brainiac would be for in a sequel. At the same time though looks arent everything without story or good action scenes. Unfortunately zod is one of supermans best villains and I would rather have him than a half-**** attempt at darkseid which people will complain about no matter what, and he should also be in a JLA movie. Once again Zod presents better story opportunities than the rest of his villains, I mean a movie with mongul, come on.

Sharkfestation
05-09-2008, 12:05 AM
They could loosly base it on Richard Donner's the Last Son.

Nightwing1977
05-09-2008, 12:37 AM
The difference is, at least in the Batman films, as crappy as some of them were, at least we got to see other villains besides the Joker, (Penguin, Catwoman, Riddler, Two-Face, Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy and Bane). With the Superman films all we have seen is Luthor and Zod. Why go back to Zod when there are other Superman villains that can be used that we have not seen yet? I could understand if we have seen the Eradicator, Metallo, Brainiac and Parasite on film already. But we haven't! Lets bring a villain on screen we have yet to see!

I agree. Like Batman films, we need to more new villians. Singer should bring in Brainiac or Metallo or any popular villians that hasn't been done before in a movie. And one that is a big threat for Supes to punch around a lot. ;)

VenomsMom
05-09-2008, 09:37 AM
of course people want eye candy and thats what brainiac would be for in a sequel. At the same time though looks arent everything without story or good action scenes. Unfortunately zod is one of supermans best villains and I would rather have him than a half-**** attempt at darkseid which people will complain about no matter what, and he should also be in a JLA movie. Once again Zod presents better story opportunities than the rest of his villains, I mean a movie with mongul, come on.
And that is probably what we would get......a halfa$$ version of Darkseid and more years of criticism and division amongst the fans. Please .......no Darkseid for this current francise.

Nixon
05-09-2008, 09:43 AM
Yeah, I've seen Darkseid jobbed enough in the comics that I don't need to see it done in the movies too. The role most everyone wants Darkseid to play onscreen would be better suited to someone like Mongul.

My hope is for Brainiac.

Super Kal
05-09-2008, 09:53 AM
because I'm sick of the Donnerverse... and Zod played a big part in the Donnerverse... and I for one think that Zod in the sequel is the biggest mistake WB could EVER make

VenomsMom
05-09-2008, 09:57 AM
Like i have said before if we are getting a direct sequel to SR which seems inevitable at the current time and given the story that has been established i only really see a handful of villains that would fit and thats Brainiac Bizarro and maybe Metallo which i thought he was better suited in SR. Leave Darkseid for a future ensemble. Oh and definitely Eradicator.

VenomsMom
05-09-2008, 09:59 AM
because I'm sick of the Donnerverse... and Zod played a big part in the Donnerverse... and I for one think that Zod in the sequel is the biggest mistake WB could EVER make
Doubt if we see Zod. he didnt show up in SR so he missed his opportunity.

dark_b
05-09-2008, 10:16 AM
eeven if zod is the best villain in history i dont want him. he was in the donnerverse so he is ''OUT''.
writte a good story with another villain. if you cant then go back selling ice cream.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-09-2008, 02:52 PM
lol Icecream.

Nightwing1977
05-09-2008, 08:28 PM
Leave Darkseid for a future ensemble.

Agree. Maybe build up a little background for him in MoS or something. And then use him for the sequel after. Or use him in JL if they get back on track. I just felt Darkseid is powerful enough to face the JL, so I think it work better to have him in it than MoS or any future Superman films.

Doubt if we see Zod. he didnt show up in SR so he missed his opportunity.

Yep. Beside, isn't Zod dead when he lost his powers in Superman 2? :p

VenomsMom
05-09-2008, 10:26 PM
Yep. Beside, isn't Zod dead when he lost his powers in Superman 2? :p
Nobody knows. He could of landed on a nice soft mattress Supes happen to throw down the same dark crevice from the bed he and Lois did the dirty on.:woot: Anythings possible in Hollywood.

VenomsMom
05-10-2008, 07:28 AM
Well the White Martians should be the villians for the first JLA film(which I'm writing a script with them in it), then Legion of Doom in the second film, and the final film with the entire JLA and Green Lantern Corps. going up against Darkseid, his minions, and armies.
I bet you would love to see Lashina......Am I right or am I right.

Showtime
05-10-2008, 07:57 AM
I don't understand this, "save the villian for a sequel" stance. Singer was saving a Supervillian for a Returns sequel, and what if that sequel never happens? Whatever Superman movie comes next, sequel or reboot, they need to go all out.

Sharkfestation
05-10-2008, 11:28 AM
I bet you would love to see Lashina......Am I right or am I right.
Haha, you're so funny. Only as minor character along with Kalibak, Desaad, and others of Darkseid's minions.

L-E-UD
05-11-2008, 02:19 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RB6_8iRqwK0

just a concept i made quickly one year ago..definetly what i m expecting from the sequel.

TheComicbookKid
05-11-2008, 03:06 AM
The whole stance of this movie needs to be about charting a course correction. Singer/Routh can stay for those of us that love SR, but the colors, the villain( must be Brainiac) must be part of the marketing strategy to pull in those who were ambivalent or underwhelmed but haven't written off the idea of MOS.

darkseid26
05-11-2008, 07:49 AM
if they ever use Zod, i hope maybe they can get there stuff from the Last Son story arc from action comics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman:_Last_Son


in it a boy comes to earth from a meteor, and turns out to be Zods son, maybe in some twisted way they can make jason Zods son or something, if they base it on it then i'm sure they'll think of something.

CrypticOne
05-11-2008, 08:23 AM
I wanna see Doomsday in this one. Then people will know why Superman is the Man of Steel. It'll be one hell of a battle.

DavidTyler
05-11-2008, 12:46 PM
The Time Trapper... so he can go back and get rid of the kid without significantly impacting the dynamic between Lois and Clark.

Or....

Mxyzptlk who has been posing AS the kid.

Ita-KalEl
05-11-2008, 12:58 PM
IMO the film needs a villain who hates the human race, and not a personal enemy of Superman.
We need an epic battle between the Supervillain and the US Army and only after the dramatic human debacle, we can see Superman saving the day.

I Am The Knight
05-11-2008, 01:12 PM
Ugh. No military please. Keep their involvement as minimal as possible. I hated that stuff in Transformers.

DavidTyler
05-11-2008, 02:06 PM
Ugh. No military please. Keep their involvement as minimal as possible. I hated that stuff in Transformers.


Disagree ... strongly.

I would love to see a character like Brainiac, Mongul, or Darksied invade and be so much of a threat that they armies of the world would be forced to unite against him. It would make a Superman film immediately jump to epic proportions instead of just another villain that Supes tears up the town with.

I Am The Knight
05-11-2008, 02:59 PM
Disagree ... strongly.

I would love to see a character like Brainiac, Mongul, or Darksied invade and be so much of a threat that they armies of the world would be forced to unite against him. It would make a Superman film immediately jump to epic proportions instead of just another villain that Supes tears up the town with.

When you put it like that I agree....That's cool. I just don't want them to be able to have a chance against the supervillain, at all. In TF they are even able to take out Blackout pretty much by themselves.

AVEITWITHJAMON
05-19-2008, 09:16 AM
When you put it like that I agree....That's cool. I just don't want them to be able to have a chance against the supervillain, at all. In TF they are even able to take out Blackout pretty much by themselves.

Yeah i know what you mean, even though the jets were mostly responsible for taking him out, they didnt have to shoot Blackout anywere NEAR as much as Devestator (who should have actually been named Brawl) and both were about the same size. I know in the comics Brawl is tougher, but it still stretched the imagination a bit. I suppose they had to give the army something to do though.

Eros
05-19-2008, 10:31 PM
Ugh. No military please. Keep their involvement as minimal as possible. I hated that stuff in Transformers.

why?:huh:

Showtime
08-03-2008, 08:17 PM
This thread is going to be for Misc. Villians...