Kraven's Last Chance?

[Spiderine]

Judging from many posts I have seen it looks like the logical choice for at least two villains for the next feature are Lizard and Kraven.This may be the perfect opportunity and only chance to get him in. Are there any suggestions for what actor could play the hunter? Any ideas?

[batboy99]

Oded Fehr,dead on kraven

[Virus276]

Oded Fehr all the way

[Venom 1988]

Ugh
Oded Fehr might look like Kraven but hes a crappy actor though. Hell just imagining him as Kraven makes me cringe.

I say go for Gerard Butler. Hes an excellent actor and can easily pull off the look and physique.

[BillyD]

I actually think that actor who played King Leonidas in 300 would make an awesome Kraven...and I think if they tweaked the "Torment" storyline a bit, that would make a great Spider-man 4...plus we'd get to see Lizard!!

[Venom 1988]

I actually think that actor who played King Leonidas in 300 would make an awesome Kraven...and I think if they tweaked the "Torment" storyline a bit, that would make a great Spider-man 4...plus we'd get to see Lizard!!

lol thats Gerard Butler, who I mentioned in my post. :up:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0124930/

[BillyD]

lol thats Gerard Butler, who I mentioned in my post. :up:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0124930/



OOOh...good call my friend...I definitely agree with you....FOR SPARTA!!!!!!!!!!!! :oldrazz:

[batboy99]

ya know,im kind of falling for butler for kraven

[NinjaTurtleFan]

Gerard Butler isn't a bad choice I wouldn't mind him being Sergi at all, but Oded Fehr looks and sounds like Kraven, but I admit he's not the best actor ever.

[batboy99]

he isnt the best but he isnt the worst actor,hell theres people out there who are worse than him!

[BillyD]

or failing that....ryan reynolds if he doesn't act like a goofball and pulls off the pyschoness he did in Amityville Horror

[BillyD]

who is oded fehr btw? I've never heard of him

[batboy99]

or failing that....ryan reynolds if he doesn't act like a goofball and pulls off the pyschoness he did in Amityville Horror
sorry but horrible,horrible,horrible casting choice and oded is one of the guys from resident evil

[BobJM]

Oded Fehr looks like him, but his acting isn't the best.

Gerald Butler can pull of Kraven's look if you dress him up similar to his 300 character and he's got the acting skills to back it up.

I think the choice is obvious. Gerald Butler.

[GoldGoblin]

Oded Fehr looks like him, but his acting isn't the best.

Gerald Butler can pull of Kraven's look if you dress him up similar to his 300 character and he's got the acting skills to back it up.

I think the choice is obvious. Gerald Butler.


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Exactly,Gerald Butler looked just like Kraven in 300 and the guy is a talented actor.

[Virus276]

who is oded fehr btw? I've never heard of him

He was Carlos in Resident Evil Apocolypse, the gigolo that Rob Schnieder house sits for in Duece Bigalow Male Gigolo, and the guy with the tatoos on his face in the mummy movies. I've never seen Dreamer but he was prince Sadir in it.

[Virus276]

after looking at pics Oded looks more like him but Gerard could do more justice to the role. batboy99 has talked me in to making a manip of Gerard so I'll have it soon.

[batboy99]

damn,why cant we make a ''test tube actor'' for kraven lol,with odeds looks and gerards acting and physique lol

[Mr Jide]

or failing that....ryan reynolds if he doesn't act like a goofball and pulls off the pyschoness he did in Amityville Horror

Are you serious? :huh: :o :dry:

[batboy99]

look wise,i tihk he looks more like kraven
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0416449/Ss/0416449/000081.jpg.html?path=gallery&path_key=0416449
id prefer him over butler

[November Rain]

unfortunately with this film coming out, kraven and the lizard simply won't cause spidey that much of a challenge to defeat.

if we are getting a spidey that can take down harry in like 3 moves, sandman and also venom, all in one film...what possible threat is kraven going to be with his jungle juice?

they've pushed spidey's limits way too far in this current film.

in all honesty, a kraven and lizard film should have come before this one.

[batboy99]

true but its better than nothing

[FaT_tONle]

unfortunately with this film coming out, kraven and the lizard simply won't cause spidey that much of a challenge to defeat.

if we are getting a spidey that can take down harry in like 3 moves, sandman and also venom, all in one film...what possible threat is kraven going to be with his jungle juice?

they've pushed spidey's limits way too far in this current film.

in all honesty, a kraven and lizard film should have come before this one.

I agree... thats why I tried to make my particular story a bit more juicier... Electro is an ideal side villain... and I think at some point we need to see KingPin in the sequels... we are probably in the minority... but Lizard Kraven alone is TOO much a scale back

[Spider-Fan83]

unfortunately with this film coming out, kraven and the lizard simply won't cause spidey that much of a challenge to defeat.

if we are getting a spidey that can take down harry in like 3 moves, sandman and also venom, all in one film...what possible threat is kraven going to be with his jungle juice?

I don't know, kraven, is more then just a brute strength, type, he's a highly skilled hunter, tracker, and fighter, sandman and venom appose a great physical threat, but, kraven could be more of a challenge, if you put him in with the lizard, it becomes more of a race to track him down before kraven finds and kills him.
he wouldn't really be a villain
Lizard should be considered the main plot, (main villain, if you will) and kraven is a side plot, an obstacle for him to over come, to track down and save Connors, by out hunting the hunter and then also having to discover a cure for connors.
(I mean, ya, there should be a couple decent fights between them, but, it shouldn’t be all about fighting, kraven will see spidey as more like competition, then an enemy (maybe even a worthy challenger), they both are going after the same thing and kraven wants to win)

as for who could play him, Oded Fehr, is a good pick
any of the soldiers for 300 would fit the look
(though, with Raimi being a former producer of the Hercules andXena sieries, he might think of some old cast members from them for the role)
(probably not Sorbo lol, but, someone)

but, had a thought, (for a semi unknown, I guess) he's been in movies like Gladiator, The Scorpion King, and new movie Pathfinder, he also, played Conan in the late 90's
Ralf Moeller (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005241/) (he's alil older and rougher aroud the egdes, which could be a dirction they go in with the character)
http://eur.i1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/premiere_photo/20050906/11/4061376619.jpg
(just throwing it out there)

and for what look he should have, i think the mtv cartoon gave him a decent, suddely, and modern look
http://marvel.toonzone.net/spideytac/bios/kraven/06.jpg
http://marvel.toonzone.net/spideytac/bios/kraven/

[FaT_tONle]

Kraven can easily hold his own against Spiderman... it would be like a Batman Superman matchup... and we all know what advantage Bats has... I am tired of hearing that argument. He is still a B+ villain... maybe a tad lower than Sandman

[Spider-Fan83]

if you want to add someone else to mix, with Kraven and lizard (if you don't thing two is enough) I might go with Scorpion (it could fit the whole urban jungle theme) maybe, even a Rhino cameo
hey, the more giant animals running around the city, the better a reason to bring in Kraven
(can't to just hear the JJ line, now, "lizards, Scorpions, and Rhinos, oh my" LOL)

[Spiderine]

I don't know, kraven, is more then just a brute strength, type, he's a highly skilled hunter, tracker, and fighter, sandman and venom appose a great physical threat, but, kraven could be more of a challenge, if you put him in with the lizard, it becomes more of a race to track him down before kraven finds and kills him.
he wouldn't really be a villain
Lizard should be considered the main plot, (main villain, if you will) and kraven is a side plot, an obstacle for him to over come, to track down and save Connors, by out hunting the hunter and then also having to discover a cure for connors.
(I mean, ya, there should be a couple decent fights between them, but, it shouldn’t be all about fighting, kraven will see spidey as more like competition, then an enemy (maybe even a worthy challenger), they both are going after the same thing and kraven wants to win)

as for who could play him, Oded Fehr, is a good pick
any of the soldiers for 300 would fit the look
(though, with Raimi being a former producer of the Hercules andXena sieries, he might think of some old cast members from them for the role)
(probably not Sorbo lol, but, someone)

but, had a thought, (for a semi unknown, I guess) he's been in movies like Gladiator, The Scorpion King, and new movie Pathfinder, he also, played Conan in the late 90's
Ralf Moeller (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005241/) (he's alil older and rougher aroud the egdes, which could be a dirction they go in with the character)
http://eur.i1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/premiere_photo/20050906/11/4061376619.jpg
(just throwing it out there)

and for what look he should have, i think the mtv cartoon gave him a decent, suddely, and modern look
http://marvel.toonzone.net/spideytac/bios/kraven/06.jpg
http://marvel.toonzone.net/spideytac/bios/kraven/
Where Kraven ranks among Spidey's villains certainly is debatable. It depends how one sees it for themselves. Could he be a formidable foe or just a major obstacle? Could he be the threat of a Sandman, probably not. The point is these villains will be portrayed how the writers see fit to use them in the context of the story. Lizard would certainly be the main villain and the story would be about Dr.Connors. This will be the focal point and how and what Peter does to deal with him. Kraven will simply compliment the story in a way we have not seen a any other villain. This is always about the story first. There are imaginative ways to use all of Spiderman's villains that will continue to add growth to Peter's character on his journey through life. This story will not end with Sandman Venom Doc Ock and the Green Goblin.

[Sugarculted]

If they do make a Spidey4, and it features The Lizard, and elements of Kraven's Last Hunt...then I'll pee myself.

[Virus276]

okay here's my first Kraven manip which is Oded Fehr(wih John Cena's body) and my newer one which is Gerard Butler and that is his body but I had to make the upper chest and neck myself because there was a cape covering that up. Also the quality is bad because I couldn't find a large pic of him as Leonidas but I sharpened it up the best I could.

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/9022/kravenoq5.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/290/kravengbfb7.png (http://imageshack.us)

[November Rain]

I agree... thats why I tried to make my particular story a bit more juicier... Electro is an ideal side villain... and I think at some point we need to see KingPin in the sequels... we are probably in the minority... but Lizard Kraven alone is TOO much a scale backthe thing is adding other characters would simply take away from a potentially great story.

raimi's backed himself into a corner now where he is unable to tell decent stories because he's simply rammed too many foes into one story at one time and that is now what the general public is going to expect from all sequels.

[November Rain]

I don't know, kraven, is more then just a brute strength, type, he's a highly skilled hunter, tracker, and fighter, sandman and venom appose a great physical threat, but, kraven could be more of a challenge, if you put him in with the lizard, it becomes more of a race to track him down before kraven finds and kills him.
he wouldn't really be a villain
Lizard should be considered the main plot, (main villain, if you will) and kraven is a side plot, an obstacle for him to over come, to track down and save Connors, by out hunting the hunter and then also having to discover a cure for connors.
(I mean, ya, there should be a couple decent fights between them, but, it shouldn’t be all about fighting, kraven will see spidey as more like competition, then an enemy (maybe even a worthy challenger), they both are going after the same thing and kraven wants to win)

the quest to find the lizard could be on thing, the interaction between kraven and spidey coudl be another but even at his best a lizard/kraven combo against spidey is going to be no major challenge compared to the feats spidey takes on in this up and coming film.

he's just been made too hardcore and although a change of pace may be a good thing with a more personal angst in a kraven/lizard sequel, it may not wash with the general viewing audience which have come to expect 'bigger and better'

there was an opening for this film to be made but unfortunately, the perfect opportunity for it has passed, unless it was done as a sort of prequel to this film

[November Rain]

if you want to add someone else to mix, with Kraven and lizard (if you don't thing two is enough) I might go with Scorpion (it could fit the whole urban jungle theme) maybe, even a Rhino cameo
hey, the more giant animals running around the city, the better a reason to bring in Kraven
(can't to just hear the JJ line, now, "lizards, Scorpions, and Rhinos, oh my" LOL)
having scorpion without the jjj tie in would be a very bad mistake in my eyes, that's a story worth telling within itself and shouldn't be diluted in order to tell another one.

oh and you forgot the vulture and potential doc ock and the tarantula.

I guess kraven could help fit the bill for such a spidey film down the line but possibly for his second trip to the big screen.

[Juggernaut33]

Tom Savini for Kraven!

http://www.fridaythe13thfilms.com/saga/part1/savini5.jpg

[Spider-Fan83]

having scorpion without the jjj tie in would be a very bad mistake in my eyes,

i didn't say he couldn't have the jjj tie in, (unless you talking about the joke about jjj saying "lizards, Scorpions, and Rhinos, oh my", in which case it was just joke, i didn't mean jjj wouldn't of had a connection to him)
it could be like, JJJ, uses the lizard as a reason to found the scorpion project (a lil something he’s been planning, to get rid of spidey, but, figures he can kill two birds with one stone, and have him go after both) and of course kraven hears about the lizard, and thinks it will be a good hunt, and spidey and Scorpion are after his prize, so, they both become targets of his too, and scorpion is secretly told by JJJ that if spidey gets in his way to eliminate him
so, you got spidey trying to track down and save the lizard, well, being attacked by both kraven and scorpion, every time they cross path, (and they are also both fighting each other) all racing to be the first one to find the lizard

[Virus276]

Tom Savini for Kraven!

http://www.fridaythe13thfilms.com/saga/part1/savini5.jpg

You do realize he's almost 61 years old now and he definitly looks it too. Plus I don't know if it's a problem because I don't know how tall Kraven should be compared to Spider-man but he's only 5'7.
Here's a picture from Grindhouse he's the cop.
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2479/tomsavinieu5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[the Firestarter]

I like these ideas!!! Lizard being pursued by Kraven... cool!!!

So, how 'bout throwing Kraven's half-bro "the Chameleon" into the mix? He could be an industrial spy sent to find out about Dr. Connor's research... and once Spidey intervenes to protect the Lizard from Kraven he tries to find out Spidey's true identity. He could disguise himself as Jameson, Peter's parents, Harry (back from the dead), Aunt May... it could be a fun sidestory.

[Spiderine]

I like these ideas!!! Lizard being pursued by Kraven... cool!!!

So, how 'bout throwing Kraven's half-bro "the Chameleon" into the mix? He could be an industrial spy sent to find out about Dr. Connor's research... and once Spidey intervenes to protect the Lizard from Kraven he tries to find out Spidey's true identity. He could disguise himself as Jameson, Peter's parents, Harry (back from the dead), Aunt May... it could be a fun sidestory.
That would be an interesting way to bring James Franco back. That would spook the hell out of Peter.

[the Firestarter]

chameleon pretending to be harry would give him access to the osbourne fortune as well as the goblin formula. would scare the bejesus outta peter. and why not have one of chameleon's men break into the lab, take the formula & become hobgoblin.

spidey vs. chameleon / kraven / hobgoblin while trying to help lizard.

[Spiderine]

chameleon pretending to be harry would give him access to the osbourne fortune as well as the goblin formula. would scare the bejesus outta peter. and why not have one of chameleon's men break into the lab, take the formula & become hobgoblin.

spidey vs. chameleon / kraven / hobgoblin while trying to help lizard.
Just like you said, the chameleon imitates certain people including Harry messing with Peter's mind, Roderich Kingsley takes over Oscorp as a corporate takeover gets access to the formula and refines it and alters the Goblin suit to become the Hobgoblin. Peter freaks when he sees this new Goblin and Harry at the same time. His mind cant take it.