*Official* NBA Playoff Thread.

[nosebleed.]

I like Kidd a lot. He deserves a title, and with the Nets, it won't work. He is older, but damn, he can score points, and can get a s***load of assists a game.

I believe in Joe Dumars, he will do some drastic things.

Flip reminds me of the same coach he was in Minnesota: Never able to take the next step. We need a coach with intensity and fire in him. Which is why I think we should shell out the dough to get Larry back.

But do you think Detroit can get behind Larry again? Didn't they feel betrayed by him?

[LastSunrise1981]

I like Kidd a lot. He deserves a title, and with the Nets, it won't work. He is older, but damn, he can score points, and can get a s***load of assists a game.

I believe in Joe Dumars, he will do some drastic things.

Flip reminds me of the same coach he was in Minnesota: Never able to take the next step. We need a coach with intensity and fire in him. Which is why I think we should shell out the dough to get Larry back.

I don't think Larry Brown will be back. I believe he is not interested in coaching anymore and is satisfied with a NCAA championship and an NBA championship.

[Fran]

But do you think Detroit can get behind Larry again? Didn't they feel betrayed by him?

Larry is a tad "controversial," but he got us to two straight Finals appearances, and within five minutes of a REPEAT.

I'd take that over two straight East Finals losses.

[Fran]

I don't think Larry Brown will be back. I believe he is not interested in coaching anymore and is satisfied with a NCAA championship and an NBA championship.

If I didn't care about NCAA basketball, I'd want Tom Izzo. :csad:

[NewYorkSpider]

VICTORY!!!!http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[Fran]

You shut your mouth.

[NewYorkSpider]

Hey! Your team beat mine in the MLB Postseason last year. Tigers over Yanks. I think were even.

[Trainwreck2100]

Oh man, I love Popovich. That little clip made me chuckle.


what clip

[L.A.]

what clip
I guess someone wasnt watching the post game:csad:

[Fran]

Hey! Your team beat mine in the MLB Postseason last year. Tigers over Yanks. I think were even.

Maybe.

I'll have to analyze that a little longer.

what clip

They were talking about which team he wanted to play, and he said stuff like,
"They both play 5 guys."
"They both make shots."
"Well, yeah, they both dribble the ball."

Great dude.

[Ben Urich]

The best Pop quote was after the Spurs clinched over the Jazz. Some reporter asked him if he'd rather play Detroit or Cleveland, and he scoffed, looked around the room in disbelief for a few seconds, then leaned into the mic and said "Is this your first time talking to a coach?"

[Fran]

Yeah, I laughed my ass off at that.

I must like him because he reminds me of Larry :csad:

[NewYorkSpider]

So who do you like to see win it fran? Lebron and the Cavs or Robert Hor....Tim Duncan and the Spurs.

[Fran]

I have to think.

[nosebleed.]

I hope Cleveland takes it. I might help Lebron do better in the Olympics next year.

[Trainwreck2100]

hope is pretty much all you got

[Ghostvirus]

I just hope that Lebron's ass can take the whole ESPN network. There is going to be a lot of kissing going on.

[FEAR THE BAT]

I just hope that Lebron's ass can take the whole ESPN network. There is going to be a lot of kissing going on.

Ain't that the truth.


Well, aside from Skip Bayless.

[Ghostvirus]

Ain't that the truth.


Well, aside from Skip Bayless.

Its funny how the entire world was ready to write this guy off.:whatever:

[FEAR THE BAT]

Fools I tell you.

A 3 goes in and a Lebron make and it woulda been a sweep.

[Spider-Fan]

FINALLY!!! One of my pro-teams is in the championship!!!

That said, I think the Cavs have a shot. This will be a 6-7 game series either way. The Cavs will put up one hell of a fight, and I think they can win this. It won't be easy, but the Spurs shouldn't expect to run over us. That won't happen.

[FEAR THE BAT]

Not if Robert Horry has anything to say.

[Trainwreck2100]

That said, I think the Cavs have a shot. This will be a 6-7 game series either way. The Cavs will put up one hell of a fight, and I think they can win this. It won't be easy, but the Spurs shouldn't expect to run over us. That won't happen.


why won't it happen?

[Spider-Fan]

The Cavs have too much desire to lose in 4 or 5. Plus, Mike Brown will know how to give them some fits.

If the Spurs win, it won't be an easy 4 or 5 game series. This is 6 or 7 either way.

Remember, no one gave the Heat a shot last year, nor the Cavs a chance against the Pistons this year. The Cavs can win this.

BRING IT ON!!!

[Mister J]

Anytime you have the best player on the court, that team always stands a chance at winning. The problem is, San Antonio has the next three best players (and possibly more beyond that). Cleveland's much derided supporting cast has got to show up.

Btw, Daniel Gibson having a big game tonight was a horrible thing. Not because he helped Cleveland win, but rather now I have to put up with Zeus knows how many 'Boobie' Gibson references. WTF? On the bright side, at least they won't come from the repugnant voice of Reggie Miller.

[Spider-Fan]

The Spurs are a great team. I am not saying they aren't. I am just saying those expecting a short series should think again. I don't see it. Sure, the Spurs have been here and know how to get it done, but the Cavs seem hungrier, and that makes them dangerous.

[L.A.]

If the cavs were to win the series against the spurs they would have to do it at Clevland. Which means they would have to finish the spurs in a sweep or in 5 which I fine very unlikely!!!

[Spider-Fan]

Cavs won't sweep the Spurs. I am a Cavs fan, and even I know they can't. They may be able to win 3 in Cleveland, but they have to win 1-2 games in SA. They already broke their curse in SA, so with that out of the way, Mike Brown just needs to plan a good attack strategy (which being formerly employed by the Spurs, he should be able to do).

This is an uphill battle, but the Cavs can do it!

[Trainwreck2100]

Anytime you have the best player on the court, that team always stands a chance at winning. The problem is, San Antonio has the next three best players (and possibly more beyond that). Cleveland's much derided supporting cast has got to show up.

Btw, Daniel Gibson having a big game tonight was a horrible thing. Not because he helped Cleveland win, but rather now I have to put up with Zeus knows how many 'Boobie' Gibson references. WTF? On the bright side, at least they won't come from the repugnant voice of Reggie Miller.

bingo bango, Spurs do quite well against one hit wonders, I wouldn't be surprised if they slide Bowen on Gibson. In 05 they let Amare run wild and avg insane stats, but still took it in 5 because they let the star player get his and shut down everyone else. And the Cavs supporting cast is vastly inferior to Lebron. I doubt they can sit him for too long.

[Lightning Strykez!]

I am ***king disgusted with the outcome of this game. :down

[Spider-Fan]

I am ***king disgusted with the outcome of this game. :down

Pistons fan?

[FEAR THE BAT]

Must be.

[Spider-Fan]

Not if Robert Horry has anything to say.

Cheap shot Horry doesn't scare me (until there is 5 seconds left on the clock).

[L.A.]

Let's face it. What player have the Cavs had to adjust their defense for this playoffs? They played a Gilbert-less Wizards. They played a Nets team that featured a soft Vince Carter. How many times did he settle for fadeaway jumpshots instead of taking it to the rim? Kidd and Jeffeson are nice, but are easy to guard in the half-court. The Cavs matched up extremely well against Detroit. Billups relies on his strength to get to the rim, but Snow and James are just as strong. Larry Hughes is quick and long enough to bother Hamilton's jumpshot. The rest of the team wasn't good enough to outscore James.

For the first time this series the Cavs will have to make adjustments on defense. How will they keep Tony Parker out of the lane? Are they gonna sag off him and let him bury the jumper, as he shoots with confidence. Are they gonna double off of Finley or Bowen and give up a 3? How will they adjust to having Manu coming off bench and maintain the Spurs attack? And then there is Duncan. Who will they decide to have in foul trouble first? They can't help off of Oberto or he will cut to the rim and beat them for a layup. It will be interesting to see what poison the Cav's decide to pick.

[LostSon88]

Cheap shot Horry doesn't scare me (until there is 5 seconds left on the clock).

Cheap shot Spurs is more I like it. :o

GO CAVS!!!!

[FEAR THE BAT]

Cheap shot Horry doesn't scare me (until there is 5 seconds left on the clock).

What if he shoulderblocks Eric Snow into some courtside fans causing Lebron and Ilgauskas to come off the bench and be suspended for the pivotal game??????????

[FEAR THE BAT]

Let's face it. What player have the Cavs had to adjust their defense for this playoffs? They played a Gilbert-less Wizards. They played a Nets team that featured a soft Vince Carter. How many times did he settle for fadeaway jumpshots instead of taking it to the rim? Kidd and Jeffeson are nice, but are easy to guard in the half-court. The Cavs matched up extremely well against Detroit. Billups relies on his strength to get to the rim, but Snow and James are just as strong. Larry Hughes is quick and long enough to bother Hamilton's jumpshot. The rest of the team wasn't good enough to outscore James.

For the first time this series the Cavs will have to make adjustments on defense. How will they keep Tony Parker out of the lane? Are they gonna sag off him and let him bury the jumper, as he shoots with confidence. Are they gonna double off of Finley or Bowen and give up a 3? How will they adjust to having Manu coming off bench and maintain the Spurs attack? And then there is Duncan. Who will they decide to have in foul trouble first? They can't help off of Oberto or he will cut to the rim and beat them for a layup. It will be interesting to see what poison the Cav's decide to pick.

And I doubt they'll let Lebron go the rack for dunks and layups in the final seonds of a 1 to 3 point game.

[Trainwreck2100]

What if he shoulderblocks Eric Snow into some courtside fans causing Lebron and Ilgauskas to come off the bench and be suspended for the pivotal game??????????


Lebron would never be on the bench, so the point is moot. Plos when Dice hit sideshow Bob, the bench stayed put, so the same should be expected

[Spider-Fan]

What if he shoulderblocks Eric Snow into some courtside fans causing Lebron and Ilgauskas to come off the bench and be suspended for the pivotal game??????????

Hey, its the Spurs. They will do that. But, that is what will make this series great. These teams are physical. This will be rough, and hard hitting, and I love it!

Thursday can't come quick enough!!!

Also, LeBron would never be on the bench.

[Milkman95]

San Antonio will dominate the Cavs, it won't even be a series more than likely. I'd really be surpised if the Cavs can make this series competitive.

I'm also disgusted at the officials and how Detroit was treated during this series - Stern wants the most marketable player in the finals, that's all, I get it, it's a business.

Cute little Cleveland finally gets there, good for them. Maybe they can win some type of Championship, God knows they haven't won anything since 1964.....

[rdh007]

San Antonio will dominate the Cavs, it won't even be a series more than likely. I'd really be surpised if the Cavs can make this series competitive.

I'm also disgusted at the officials and how Detroit was treated during this series - Stern wants the most marketable player in the finals, that's all, I get it, it's a business.

Cute little Cleveland finally gets there, good for them. Maybe they can win some type of Championship, God knows they haven't won anything since 1964.....
Seconded.

But I'm rooting for Cleveland since they A)beat Detroit and B)aren't SanAntone.

[Milkman95]

Seconded.

But I'm rooting for Cleveland since they A)beat Detroit and B)aren't SanAntone.

I wouldn't mind Cleveland winning, because I'm sick of San Antonio, that's for sure. It was just a matter of time that Detroit got knocked off their pedestal, so it's par for the course, they dominated for a while.

The Pistons will be blown up this off season - look for Flip to be fired and Rasheed and Billups to be released.

[Fran]

I think we should sign and trade Billups and trade both him and 'Sheed for Kevin Garnett.

Fire Flip, and hire someone else. I'm not sure who's available.

[Ben Urich]

Stan Van Gundy. :up:

[Fran]

:up: I want someone really intense, though. Someone that can fire the team up without a problem.

[Ben Urich]

I dunno then. SVG is probably the best coach available, though.

Maybe one of Flip's assistants? Like an in-house type deal? :huh:

[Assassin]

San Antonio will dominate the Cavs, it won't even be a series more than likely. I'd really be surpised if the Cavs can make this series competitive.

I'm also disgusted at the officials and how Detroit was treated during this series - Stern wants the most marketable player in the finals, that's all, I get it, it's a business.

Cute little Cleveland finally gets there, good for them. Maybe they can win some type of Championship, God knows they haven't won anything since 1964.....

Dude, they did the same thing last year with shaq and wade. Rasheed was the only man on that court last night, he had the balls to say something, and Dice should have let him swing.

Bull **** calls, Spurs in 4 games. They will make James cry.

[Assassin]

I think we should sign and trade Billups and trade both him and 'Sheed for Kevin Garnett.

Fire Flip, and hire someone else. I'm not sure who's available.

You're retarded. Stop being a pistons fan.

[Fran]

Pot, meet the kettle.

[Jerry!]

San Antonio will dominate the Cavs, it won't even be a series more than likely. I'd really be surpised if the Cavs can make this series competitive.

I'm also disgusted at the officials and how Detroit was treated during this series - Stern wants the most marketable player in the finals, that's all, I get it, it's a business.

Cute little Cleveland finally gets there, good for them. Maybe they can win some type of Championship, God knows they haven't won anything since 1964.....

If he wanted that he wouldn't have ruined the Suns' chances. He had the power to decide not to suspend them. I don't want to open up that whole can o' worms again, but thats just a bull**** statement.

[Spider-Fan]

Have we forgotten the no call in game 2? If Stern and the refs wanted the Cavs to win, don't you think they would have called that foul in game 2, since Detroit went up 2-0 at that point?

Stop whining Pistons fans, it was a clean win for the Cavs.

I hope the Spurs have the same Spurs in 4-5 opinion you guys do...it will make beating them easier.

This is a 6-7 game series either way.

[Docker2.0]

Well actually the Spurs do play the "right" way. :o Don't get me wrong, I wanted the Pistons to win, but they didn't bring their a game so they deserved to lose(especially Rasheed Wallace! :cmad: but to say the league didn't want Lebron in the finals after Detroit and Spurs games were suffering lackluster ratings is crazy.

[Spider-Fan]

I am not saying that seeing LeBron in the finals is not better for ratings (that is obvious that it is), but to say Stern told the refs to make it happen I think is off base and wrong.

[L.A.]

http://gallery.upshizzle.com/albums/06.07/mix.gif

[LastSunrise1981]

I just find it amusing that so many people are complaining about bad calls from last nights game and they're the same ones who ripped on me for saying the same thing.

It's funny to see how things come in full circle. I did my ranting and raving about the officiating during the championships last year, now the same ones who ripped on me are crying, whining, and saying that Stern wanted to make sure Lebron made it to the finals.

My, oh my what a difference a year makes in some people. :yay: :woot:

[NewYorkSpider]

I love it how people say that the officiating is rigged. The officals don't make baskets, players do.

[Ben Urich]

I still don't understand why people make fun of D-Wade for crying. He busted his friggin' shoulder. Then they rag on him for getting into a wheelchair, but that was the trainer's decision, not Wade's.

:down

[Spider-Fan]

I love it how people say that the officiating is rigged. The officals don't make baskets, players do.

Some people don't get that. The Pistons were putting up shots just like the Cavs, only the Cavs made them more often.

Scoring more baskets = win

Cavs won cleanly. The only case I see Stern being an argument is with the Suns, but even then the Spurs were on the verge of winning anyway.

[Ben Urich]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2892334

Evidently, Donovan wants out as Magic coach. He wants to go back to UF. The Magic now have to decide whether or not to let him leave.

:suicide:

[FEAR THE BAT]

I still don't understand why people make fun of D-Wade for crying. He busted his friggin' shoulder. Then they rag on him for getting into a wheelchair, but that was the trainer's decision, not Wade's.

:down

Its called idiocy. Its an epidemic.

[NewYorkSpider]

Some people don't get that.

I can understand about the officials making a bad call, but the player is not going to make every free throw at the line.

[Spider-Fan]

I can understand about the officials making a bad call, but the player is not going to make every free throw at the line.

Especially on the Cavs, as they are pretty pathetic from the line.

Plus, the Pistons benefited from bad calls, too. It is just going to happen.

[Jerry!]

Right, you try to capitalize on the good breaks you get, and you have to fight through the bad breaks you get, its the same with almost every sport. Bad officiating doesn't take a 2-0 series lead from the Pistons. Even if the officiating was horrible throughout every game, the Pistons as a team should have been able to play through it.

[Ghostvirus]

I just find it amusing that so many people are complaining about bad calls from last nights game and they're the same ones who ripped on me for saying the same thing.

It's funny to see how things come in full circle. I did my ranting and raving about the officiating during the championships last year, now the same ones who ripped on me are crying, whining, and saying that Stern wanted to make sure Lebron made it to the finals.

My, oh my what a difference a year makes in some people. :yay: :woot:

Not everybody:yay:

[Mister J]

The whining is incredible. Although it's completely out of control at th Conversation posts on articles at ESPN. It seems that no matter what team loses, some of their fans are inclined to believe the big bad refs were the cause. It's hysterical. When did sports fandom include being a whiny ***** because your team lost? Christ. :down

[Spider-Fan]

The whining is incredible. Although it's completely out of control at th Conversation posts on articles at ESPN. It seems that no matter what team loses, some of their fans are inclined to believe the big bad refs were the cause. It's hysterical. When did sports fandom include being a whiny ***** because your team lost? Christ. :down

Since the founding of the internet?

[Docker2.0]

To be real, if the refs called the game down the line and not give certain players "superstar calls" none of it would happen. The players would adapt to learn not to foul out or they would adapt not to foul. You can see certain players get slammed to the ground and not get a foul called. But if you blow on another player, it's a foul. Superstar or not, a foul is a foul.

[Ben Urich]

J, I get the feeling you and I can be real close buddies if this Donovan news is true. :csad:

[NewYorkSpider]

Also, look at Rasheed's Technical Foul's. One free throw for the Cavs and possesion of the ball.

[Mister J]

Since the founding of the internet?
Must be. It's far too easy to log on and post silliness.
J, I get the feeling you and I can be real close buddies if this Donovan news is true. :csad:
I don't get it. Did Pitino just get back from a trek into the wilderness or something where he had no connection to civilization. You want the job or not, Billy. WTF?

[Ben Urich]

Worse than when Shaq left. :down

[Jerry!]

To be real, if the refs called the game down the line and not give certain players "superstar calls" none of it would happen. The players would adapt to learn not to foul out or they would adapt not to foul. You can see certain players get slammed to the ground and not get a foul called. But if you blow on another player, it's a foul. Superstar or not, a foul is a foul.

Still, bad calls will happen because the refs are only human. They will always miss something. Look, theres no changing it, its always been like this. Its just that when upsets like this happen, people like to blow it up and exaggerate it, but it really comes down to this: The Pistons had a 2-0 series lead, the Pistons play when they want to, they think they can switch it on and off. They did it against the Bulls and got away with it, but not with the Cavs.

[Spider-Fan]

Still, bad calls will happen because the refs are only human. They will always miss something. Look, theres no changing it, its always been like this. Its just that when upsets like this happen, people like to blow it up and exaggerate it, but it really comes down to this: The Pistons had a 2-0 series lead, the Pistons play when they want to, they think they can switch it on and off. They did it against the Bulls and got away with it, but not with the Cavs.

:up: They were up 3-0 on the Bulls and could have blown that. The Cavs just happen to be better and actually made the Pistons pay for their arrogance.

Everyone seems to be overlooking the Cavs in the playoffs, and I am amazed people still think so low of them, and that they won't be game for this series.

[Mister J]

Rumors are flying out of Detroit. It seems very unlikely Flip and Sheed will be together next year. Much easier (and wiser) to just can Flip instead of dealing Sheed. Besides, how many takers would there be for 32 year old forward who tends to drift at times and is also an unmanageable headcase?

[cyborg ninja 14]

Must be. It's far too easy to log on and post silliness.

I don't get it. Did Pitino just get back from a trek into the wilderness or something where he had no connection to civilization. You want the job or not, Billy. WTF?

I've got a theory, Donovon techinally made the leap to the NBA by signing a contract with the Magic. So he voids the deal and goes back to college thus proving he actually "made the leap/jump/hop/skip" to the NBA.

Yeah it probably sounds ridiculous, but who knows.

[Ben Urich]

The Orlando Sentinel reports that Donovan will be allowed to leave the Magic.

Dude better owe us a ****load of money. :down

:suicide:

[Ghostvirus]

Rumors are flying out of Detroit. It seems very unlikely Flip and Sheed will be together next year. Much easier (and wiser) to just can Flip instead of dealing Sheed. Besides, how many takers would there be for 32 year old forward who tends to drift at times and is also an unmanageable headcase?

I have always felt the Flip sucks, & Sheed is the only reason why Portland wasn't able to get over the hump. He is more pain to a team, than worth.

[Ghostvirus]

The Orlando Sentinel reports that Donovan will be allowed to leave the Magic.

Dude better owe us a ****load of money. :down

:suicide:

What in the black hell changed his mind!

[Ben Urich]

What in the black hell changed his mind!

I guess he just didn't want to leave Gainesville after all. :huh:

The Sentinel reports that Donovan was in Gainesville talking with UF people on Saturday... one day after he signed the Magic deal. Evidently it got so bad that Magic GM Otis Smith had to fly up there to try to talk him down. It's been playing out all weekend. :csad:

[Ghostvirus]

I guess he just didn't want to leave Gainesville after all. :huh:

The Sentinel reports that Donovan was in Gainesville talking with UF people on Saturday... one day after he signed the Magic deal. Evidently it got so bad that Magic GM Otis Smith had to fly up there to try to talk him down. It's been playing out all weekend. :csad:

I really lose respect for people who don't think things through. This was a huge cock tease for all the magic fans. I am sorry dude.:csad:



Here is an interesting Article about Lebron, & Kobe (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6883282)

[Milkman95]

No doubt the Pistons will be blown up - they had their day, and now it's over. One NBA title, 2 Finals appearances, and 5 ECF appearances in a row. Detroit fans are whining because we've been spoiled.

It's time for cute little Cleveland to have their time in the limelight, God knows a Championship team hasn't come out of that town in over 40 years, so good for them.

[Immortalfire]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2892334

Evidently, Donovan wants out as Magic coach. He wants to go back to UF. The Magic now have to decide whether or not to let him leave.

:suicide:

What the hell :huh:

[moraldeficiency]

What the hell :huh:

To run though this for people that don't know, Donovan takes a long ass time to decide what type of socks to wear each day. Seriously the man is extremely slow and careful about everything. The Magic thing happened so quickly and he needed to make such a quick decision (which is completely unlike him) all it took was a bit of @itching from fans and friends in Florida to make him change his mind (in a spectacularly whiney fashion).

[Fran]

No doubt the Pistons will be blown up - they had their day, and now it's over. One NBA title, 2 Finals appearances, and 5 ECF appearances in a row. Detroit fans are whining because we've been spoiled.

It's time for cute little Cleveland to have their time in the limelight, God knows a Championship team hasn't come out of that town in over 40 years, so good for them.

Yeah, but I'm not worried. I have complete faith in Joe Dumars.

[fangrl06]

I'm happy for Cleveland, but I think they're going to have a much tougher time with the Spurs then Detroit would have had.

[Milkman95]

I'm happy for Cleveland, but I think they're going to have a much tougher time with the Spurs then Detroit would have had.

Don't get me wrong, I'd like Cleveland to win now, I'm sick of the Spurs, but I just don't see it happening, sorry.

[fangrl06]

Don't get me wrong, I'd like Cleveland to win now, I'm sick of the Spurs, but I just don't see it happening, sorry.
Me too, I wanted the Suns to win and represent the west.

[Fran]

I'm rooting for the Spurs.

San Antonio in 6 games.

[fangrl06]

I really don't care who wins. Generally I go for the West Coast team, but I really don't like the Spurs.

[NewYorkSpider]

I'm rooting for the Cavs.


Cavs in seven.

[Spider-Fan]

GO CAVS!!!

Cavs in 7!

[L.A.]

Cavs in 7???!!! Has there ever been a team that won the nba finals in a gam3 7 on the road???:D

[NewYorkSpider]

That's why you have got to beleive.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif:o

[moraldeficiency]

Cavs in 7???!!! Has there ever been a team that won the nba finals in a gam3 7 on the road???:D

Don't jinx yourself. What Miami did last year was never done before either.

[L.A.]

Don't jinx yourself. What Miami did last year was never done before either.
Yea against a weak minded Mavs team!!! Mavs simply just chocked!!! Spurs dont chock!

[moraldeficiency]

Yea against a weak minded Mavs team!!! Mavs simply just chocked!!! Spurs dont chock!

You could have been Mark Cuban a year ago with those comments. Just understand you are jinxing your own team with this talk.

[Milkman95]

I wanted the Suns as well, but oh well.

I just don't see the Cavs taking this series, but you never know.

[Spider-Fan]

That's why you have got to beleive.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif:o

That's right, and I BELIEVE!!!

WE ARE ALL WITNESSES!!!

[Ben Urich]

The Spurs don't choke, either. :o

[DarthRekal]

The whining is incredible. Although it's completely out of control at th Conversation posts on articles at ESPN. It seems that no matter what team loses, some of their fans are inclined to believe the big bad refs were the cause. It's hysterical. When did sports fandom include being a whiny ***** because your team lost? Christ. :down
not me .. i took my beatin like a man :csad:


i refuse to watch this finals... it has stern written all over it :cmad: :ninja:

[Immortalfire]

You guys are worse than Mark Cuban.

[L.A.]

You could have been Mark Cuban a year ago with those comments. Just understand you are jinxing your own team with this talk.
My team are the clips and they have been jinxed since the beginning of time!!!:csad:

[DarthRekal]

You guys are worse than Mark Cuban.
you're as naive as a creationist :oldrazz:


you act like stern has NOTHING to do with it... im not calling out full blown conspiracy.. but he nudges

[batman44]

you're as naive as a creationist :oldrazz:


you act like stern has NOTHING to do with it... im not calling out full blown conspiracy.. but he nudges

I'm christian:dry:

[Spider-Fan]

you're as naive as a creationist :oldrazz:


you act like stern has NOTHING to do with it... im not calling out full blown conspiracy.. but he nudges

Would you be saying this if Detroit won? No. It is only because it is LeBron.

I mean, it is not like the refs blew a call giving the Pistons a 2-0 series lead. It's not like the Pistons were on the verge of blowing a 3-0 series lead to the lesser Bulls (if they lost game 6, they would have lost the series). It's not like the Cavs took this team to 7 games last year, and almost beat them in 6. It's not like any other superstars get the same calls LeBron does.

Stern had nothing to do with this. I think people need to get off the Stern nudging/fixing Kool-Aid.

Oh, and I'm an athiest.

[LastSunrise1981]

Would you be saying this if Detroit won? No. It is only because it is LeBron.

I mean, it is not like the refs blew a call giving the Pistons a 2-0 series lead. It's not like the Pistons were on the verge of blowing a 3-0 series lead to the lesser Bulls (if they lost game 6, they would have lost the series). It's not like the Cavs took this team to 7 games last year, and almost beat them in 6. It's not like any other superstars get the same calls LeBron does.

Stern had nothing to do with this. I think people need to get off the Stern nudging/fixing Kool-Aid.

Oh, and I'm an athiest.

Like I said, these are the same comments I made about the officiating last year. I still believe that the officiating last year for Dallas was horrible and nothing is going to change my mind. I, however, find it amusing to see the hypocrisy of some of the posters here in this NBA thread.

They were calling me a moron, a crybaby, a sore loser, and making other personal attacks against me for saying these things. I admit I said some stupid things and attacked wrongly, but it's funny to see them whining about the officiating now.

Either way, Detroit played lazy basketball and went in believing they would intimidate the Cavs. They had this belief they can turn it on and turn it off when they want to which resulted in it biting them in the ass.

Good for Cleveland. I'm happy they made it and now it makes the Finals more interesting.

[Ghostvirus]

Come on people! Stop with all this! Lets be happy that it isn't Detroit V.S. Spurs. The Finals are actually some what interesting. Plus come next season everybody better leave Sunrise the f-alone. Some of you are being big hipocrytes!

[Spider-Fan]

Like I said, these are the same comments I made about the officiating last year. I still believe that the officiating last year for Dallas was horrible and nothing is going to change my mind. I, however, find it amusing to see the hypocrisy of some of the posters here in this NBA thread.

They were calling me a moron, a crybaby, a sore loser, and making other personal attacks against me for saying these things. I admit I said some stupid things and attacked wrongly, but it's funny to see them whining about the officiating now.

Either way, Detroit played lazy basketball and went in believing they would intimidate the Cavs. They had this belief they can turn it on and turn it off when they want to which resulted in it biting them in the ass.

Good for Cleveland. I'm happy they made it and now it makes the Finals more interesting.

Dallas I think got lazy, also. Miami just didn't miss a shot in those last games.

Its because, they cannot accept their beloved Pistons got beat by a team they deemed too weak to be a threat. They can get on people who complain about refs, but when their team loses, that is the first excuse. It is rather funny. I think you now have the right to grill them for a year.

They are in the denial stage of grieving, but need to face reality.

[Fran]

Come on people! Stop with all this! Lets be happy that it isn't Detroit V.S. Spurs. The Finals are actually some what interesting. Plus come next season everybody better leave Sunrise the f-alone. Some of you are being big hipocrytes!

STFU.

[Fran]

ALRIGHT... ANNOUNCEMENT

Submit me your Finals picks.

[Ben Urich]

****, I have no chance of winning anyway, sooooo

Cavs in 6. :o

[Fran]

Game breakdown too, Ben.

[Ben Urich]

Lightning strikes twice

SAS SAS CLE CLE CLE CLE

:up:

[Spider-Fan]

1 - SA
2 - CLE
3 - CLE
4 - SA
5 - CLE
6 - SA
7 - CLE

Cavs in 7!!!

[Fran]

Spurs in 6

SA SA CLE SA CLE SA

[Poeman]

sa sa cle cle cle sa cle

cle in 7

[Fran]

Poeman, you aren't in the pool.

But it's cool.

[DOG LIPS]

Cle Cle Cle Cle

Cavs in 4.










This post dedicated to fran.

[Fran]

Cle Cle Cle Cle

Cavs in 4.










This post dedicated to fran.

I will strike you down!

:csad:

[DarthRekal]

Come on people! Stop with all this! Lets be happy that it isn't Detroit V.S. Spurs. The Finals are actually some what interesting. Plus come next season everybody better leave Sunrise the f-alone. Some of you are being big hipocrytes!
lol.... i stuck up for him a while back and got called brown noser... :wow:
Would you be saying this if Detroit won? No. It is only because it is LeBron.

I mean, it is not like the refs blew a call giving the Pistons a 2-0 series lead. It's not like the Pistons were on the verge of blowing a 3-0 series lead to the lesser Bulls (if they lost game 6, they would have lost the series). It's not like the Cavs took this team to 7 games last year, and almost beat them in 6. It's not like any other superstars get the same calls LeBron does.

Stern had nothing to do with this. I think people need to get off the Stern nudging/fixing Kool-Aid.

Oh, and I'm an athiest.

who are you ????:huh:

and no i wouldnt be sayin it if detroit won... just like i wouldnt have said it last year if dallas had won... we all know theres PPL stern wants to "see" in the Show.. if you guys dont believe that then apologoze to the CIA for fingerin them in the JFK shooting and say sorry to Bush for not knowing anything about 911

I'm christian:dry:
sorry i was being sarcastic and that was the one "extreme" that fits these boards

[DarthRekal]

Sterns Officials in 7

SA SA CLE CLE SA CLE SA


ratings bonanza the longer this thing goes the better for Joseph Sternin:ninja:

[batman44]

sorry i was being sarcastic and that was the one "extreme" that fits these boards

It's all good bro, I kinda figured you were being sarcastic:up:

Anyway, my prediction:

Spurs in 5 [SA, SA, Clev, SA, SA]

I'm either underestimating Cavs again or giving them too much credit.

[NewYorkSpider]

Cavs in 7.

SA SA CLE CLE CLE SA CLE

[Blaktin America]

Cavs in 5. Cavs Spurs Cavs Cavs Cavs

[Ghostvirus]

STFU.

How about you stop b**ching! Your team dropped the soap. Now bend over, & take it like a man. It isn't the end of the world. There is always next season. Relax man...Relax.

lol.... i stuck up for him a while back and got called brown noser... :wow:

I am not really sticking up for him so much as realizing that he was right about some of the people here. You, & Mister J are not them. Plus the Brown Nosing comment was a joke. People have trouble taking jokes around here.:whatever:

[Fran]

I'm not b****ing, that was a joke in the first place.

:whatever::down

[Ghostvirus]

I'm not b****ing, that was a joke in the first place.

:whatever::down

Well put a smiley there or something man!:cwink:

[Mister J]

You guys are all jerks. Hal Jordan is better than every single one of you.
DISCLAIMER: That was a joke. Hal Jordan sucks. :up:

[Ben Urich]

Not as much as a certain friend of ours.
:ghost:
:yellow:

[Memphis Slim]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YsoP6bjADic


Had to post this for GP. :woot:

[Ben Urich]

http://www.nba.com/nba_news/saunders_070604.html

Saunders will coach Detroit next season. A league official confirmed it.

Sorry, fran. :csad:

[Spider-Fan]

who are you ????:huh:

and no i wouldnt be sayin it if detroit won... just like i wouldnt have said it last year if dallas had won... we all know theres PPL stern wants to "see" in the Show.. if you guys dont believe that then apologoze to the CIA for fingerin them in the JFK shooting and say sorry to Bush for not knowing anything about 911

A Cavaliers fan. In an NBA thread, that is all that really matters.

Are you really trying to put the NBA finals in the same league as 9/11 and the JFK assassination? Man, get over it.

The refs don't win games for you. The Pistons had a 2-0 series lead, and the refs in game 2 screwed up on a call that allowed the Cavs to lose, and be close to elimination. The refs don't win a series, players do. The shots still have to go in. Cleveland's did, Detroit's didn't. You act like Detroit didn't benefit from poor calls, when they did. Human error is part of the game, and that goes for both sides.

Also, team's do get hot, or did you forget how the Cardinals won the World Series last year?

[moraldeficiency]

A Cavaliers fan. In an NBA thread, that is all that really matters.

Are you really trying to put the NBA finals in the same league as 9/11 and the JFK assassination? Man, get over it.

The refs don't win games for you. The Pistons had a 2-0 series lead, and the refs in game 2 screwed up on a call that allowed the Cavs to lose, and be close to elimination. The refs don't win a series, players do. The shots still have to go in. Cleveland's did, Detroit's didn't. You act like Detroit didn't benefit from poor calls, when they did. Human error is part of the game, and that goes for both sides.

Also, team's do get hot, or did you forget how the Cardinals won the World Series last year?

I've gotta agree to compare what Stern might, and I stress might, impart to refs as his wishes is anywhere akin to the JFK assassination or 911 is just about the crappiest, stupidest and insulting thing I've ever read on these boards and that's saying a lot.

Let's just say Stern is the Hoover of the NBA trying to impose his will and make certian teams win. Can that even work? Sure you can give advantages but consider that people get hot or cold. Add injuries into the equation and the refs influence is vastly reduced. Then factor in there are plenty of fans like Darth here that are going to scream and cry their little heads off at any seeming slight and it's pretty damn hard to fix an NBA game.

The Mavs lost last year because Miami played better and deserved to win. Any dignity for that team was lost long ago by the incesant @itching of their fans and owner. A Win is a Win and a Lose is an Lose. Even if you do get robbed you shut up and work harder for next year. Any of my high school football coaches would slap your whiney ears back for @itching still a year later.

[LastSunrise1981]

I've gotta agree to compare what Stern might, and I stress might, impart to refs as his wishes is anywhere akin to the JFK assassination or 911 is just about the crappiest, stupidest and insulting thing I've ever read on these boards and that's saying a lot.

Let's just say Stern is the Hoover of the NBA trying to impose his will and make certian teams win. Can that even work? Sure you can give advantages but consider that people get hot or cold. Add injuries into the equation and the refs influence is vastly reduced. Then factor in there are plenty of fans like Darth here that are going to scream and cry their little heads off at any seeming slight and it's pretty damn hard to fix an NBA game.

The Mavs lost last year because Miami played better and deserved to win. Any dignity for that team was lost long ago by the incesant @itching of their fans and owner. A Win is a Win and a Lose is an Lose. Even if you do get robbed you shut up and work harder for next year. Any of my high school football coaches would slap your whiney ears back for @itching still a year later.

It's still debated as to whether or not Miami were the better team. Sure, a lot of calls went in their favor, that much has been confirmed and proven in a study. As a Dallas fan I was angry and still feel that the officiating in the series was too one sided.

But I'm also realistic too. You don't have a 2-0 lead and just squander it like that either. You either play smarter or you're bound to lose a crucial game in the long run which is what happened. Dirk, Howard, Terry, and other players didn't play like they wanted to win the championship and it showed.

The same thing happened this year with the Warriors. They got shaken with intimidation, and rather than stand their ground and fight back, they buckled down with their tail between their legs and got humiliated again. As I said, I'm a Dallas fan, but I'm also realistic as well.

[moraldeficiency]

It's still debated as to whether or not Miami were the better team. Sure, a lot of calls went in their favor, that much has been confirmed and proven in a study. As a Dallas fan I was angry and still feel that the officiating in the series was too one sided.

But I'm also realistic too. You don't have a 2-0 lead and just squander it like that either. You either play smarter or you're bound to lose a crucial game in the long run which is what happened. Dirk, Howard, Terry, and other players didn't play like they wanted to win the championship and it showed.

The same thing happened this year with the Warriors. They got shaken with intimidation, and rather than stand their ground and fight back, they buckled down with their tail between their legs and got humiliated again. As I said, I'm a Dallas fan, but I'm also realistic as well.

Debate all you want, I saw pics with a rather large trophy. Excuses and reasons are just that. No crying, no do overs, this is professional sports.

Pat Riley outcoached a team that got complacent, cocky and too much into their own press. They deserved to lose. Miami came together as a team, they didn't let the initial losses blind them, they just got angry, focused and better.

Calls don't always go your way, but sometimes they do. I remember your team playing the Spurs last year, what do you think about the officiating in that series?

I'm a Miami fan myself. Last year was fantastic, this year we got lazy, failed to adapt and were properly humbled by a better chicago team. No whining or excuses. We got beat, there will be next year.

[LastSunrise1981]

Debate all you want, I saw pics with a rather large trophy. Excuses and reasons are just that. No crying, no do overs, this is professional sports.

Pat Riley outcoached a team that got complacent, cocky and too much into their own press. They deserved to lose. Miami came together as a team, they didn't let the initial losses blind them, they just got angry, focused and better.

Calls don't always go your way, but sometimes they do. I remember your team playing the Spurs last year, what do you think about the officiating in that series?

I'm a Miami fan myself. Last year was fantastic, this year we got lazy, failed to adapt and were properly humbled by a better chicago team. No whining or excuses. We got beat, there will be next year.

Yes, in the end the outcome is the same. Dallas lost a series they definitely had won in my view. However, it doesn't change the fact for me that I believe the majority of the calls went in Miami's favor. It's true that bad calls happen and believe me, I'm not making excuses, what happened is a done deal and there is nothing to be done about it.

It goes down in the record book as a championship for Miami and a loss for Dallas.

Dallas/San Antonio series had some questionable calls. I felt Bowen got unfairly called for some fouls, but it was obvious that Dirk was fouled when he drove to the hoop and was hacked on the arm by Ginoboli.

[Fran]

http://www.nba.com/nba_news/saunders_070604.html

Saunders will coach Detroit next season. A league official confirmed it.

Sorry, fran. :csad:

:down

[Ghostvirus]

What the hell has this thread turned into! Is this the way it is going to be every f-ing year! People complaining about the refs, & how stern called up Bavetta, & had him initiate order 66! Give me a break people seriously. My team lost. There were bad calls in that series as well. There are bad calls in every series. Please for the love of god let it go!

[LastSunrise1981]

What the hell has this thread turned into! Is this the way it is going to be every f-ing year! People complaining about the refs, & how stern called up Bavetta, & had him initiate order 66! Give me a break people seriously. My team lost. There were bad calls in that series as well. There are bad calls in every series. Please for the love of god let it go!

No offense, but you complained about the officiating in which Dallas won their last game against Golden State in the first round. As I said, it's very amusing to see how things come in full circle on the hype.

Poster gets ripped apart for his views on officiating and the same people are whining, crying, and *****ing about the same thing. But as you said the Finals now are a bit more interesting and it shouldn't be a borefest.

[moraldeficiency]

Ok, back to pressing matters. How are the Spurs gonna handle Lebron?

[LastSunrise1981]

Ok, back to pressing matters. How are the Spurs gonna handle Lebron?

The Spurs are not going to have a problem with Lebron. I can see them double teaming the heck out of him and forcing other guys to make shots, which will ultimately lead to their inevitable victory.

The Spurs know that guys like Gooden, Gibson, Illguaskas, and Damon Jones will not have monster games that will help the Cavs. When push comes to shove the Cavs need to bring their A game to the front. More than likely they'll have Bowen and Ginoboli defend Lebron, while forcing him to pass the ball to his teammates.

It's not rocket science obviously, but everyone knows Lebron doesn't have consistent help on the team.

[moraldeficiency]

The Spurs are not going to have a problem with Lebron. I can see them double teaming the heck out of him and forcing other guys to make shots, which will ultimately lead to their inevitable victory.

The Spurs know that guys like Gooden, Gibson, Illguaskas, and Damon Jones will not have monster games that will help the Cavs. When push comes to shove the Cavs need to bring their A game to the front. More than likely they'll have Bowen and Ginoboli defend Lebron, while forcing him to pass the ball to his teammates.

It's not rocket science obviously, but everyone knows Lebron doesn't have consistent help on the team.

That's the standard tact, but this is also Lebron's first Finals game and his maturity has grown incredibably quickly, also the cavs are clearly hungry, they might get hot and force the Spurs to change tactics.

[Spider-Fan]

Consistantly, the rest of the guys are not much support, but all of those guys have stepped up and have had a huge game in the playoffs, so they only really need one of them to get hot on a given night (doesn't have to be the same guy either) and open things up for LeBron.

[Ghostvirus]

No offense, but you complained about the officiating in which Dallas won their last game against Golden State in the first round. As I said, it's very amusing to see how things come in full circle on the hype.

Poster gets ripped apart for his views on officiating and the same people are whining, crying, and *****ing about the same thing. But as you said the Finals now are a bit more interesting and it shouldn't be a borefest.


There is a big difference between being pissed about the officiating, & thinking the officiating is controling the game.

You can point fingers all you want, but you will always be the original nut bag.

[moraldeficiency]

Consistantly, the rest of the guys are not much support, but all of those guys have stepped up and have had a huge game in the playoffs, so they only really need one of them to get hot on a given night (doesn't have to be the same guy either) and open things up for LeBron.

I agree, all these guys need to do is give the Cavs, two good games each and this will be a great series.

[LastSunrise1981]

There is a big difference between being pissed about the officiating, & thinking the officiating is controling the game.

You can point fingers all you want, but you will always be the original nut bag.

Meh, call it what you like. In the end you're still the original hypocrite of the board as well.

[LastSunrise1981]

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[Ghostvirus]

Meh, call it what you like. In the end you're still the original hypocrite of the board as well.

HAHAHA!!!

What ever little man. From now on just use the rubber glue phrase. It will save time.

[L.A.]

The Spurs are not going to have a problem with Lebron. I can see them double teaming the heck out of him and forcing other guys to make shots, which will ultimately lead to their inevitable victory.

The Spurs know that guys like Gooden, Gibson, Illguaskas, and Damon Jones will not have monster games that will help the Cavs. When push comes to shove the Cavs need to bring their A game to the front. More than likely they'll have Bowen and Ginoboli defend Lebron, while forcing him to pass the ball to his teammates.

It's not rocket science obviously, but everyone knows Lebron doesn't have consistent help on the team.
yup thats pretty much what I was going to say.

[Fran]

Carnage, just lay off. He's got a point.

[NewYorkSpider]

Did you get my picks? I changed them.

Cavs in 7.

SA SA CLE CLE CLE SA CLE

[Fran]

I'm not saving them, I'll just refer to the previous pages.

[DarthRekal]

I am not really sticking up for him so much as realizing that he was right about some of the people here. You, & Mister J are not them. Plus the Brown Nosing comment was a joke. People have trouble taking jokes around here.

Well put a smiley there or something man!
NEXT TIME put a smiley in there :oldrazz: :cwink:
You guys are all jerks. Hal Jordan is better than every single one of you.
DISCLAIMER: That was a joke. Hal Jordan sucks.
You suck the MOSTEST!:ninja:
A Cavaliers fan. In an NBA thread, that is all that really matters.
Is it really .. cause i could sworn you were GHOST for about the whole season up until now???? you sure know how to pick your time to be BOLD


Are you really trying to put the NBA finals in the same league as 9/11 and the JFK assassination? Man, get over it.
RELAX .. "BASKETBALL FAN"... if you were here the whole season you know how sarcastic and extremist i can be.. it was an analogy and if you take it serious .. is it I the one who really needs to REALX:huh:


The refs don't win games for you. The Pistons had a 2-0 series lead, and the refs in game 2 screwed up on a call that allowed the Cavs to lose, and be close to elimination. The refs don't win a series, players do. The shots still have to go in. Cleveland's did, Detroit's didn't. You act like Detroit didn't benefit from poor calls, when they did. Human error is part of the game, and that goes for both sides.

Also, team's do get hot, or did you forget how the Cardinals won the World Series last year?
BBALL is alot diff than Baseball.. and calls in BBALL can be compared to blown calls in Football or blown plays in baseball.. one bad call can change the momentum of a ENTIRE game... ONE game can change an ENTIRE SERIES.. if you cant see that than theres no use even continuing

I've gotta agree to compare what Stern might, and I stress might, impart to refs as his wishes is anywhere akin to the JFK assassination or 911 is just about the crappiest, stupidest and insulting thing I've ever read on these boards and that's saying a lot.

Let's just say Stern is the Hoover of the NBA trying to impose his will and make certian teams win. Can that even work? Sure you can give advantages but consider that people get hot or cold. Add injuries into the equation and the refs influence is vastly reduced. Then factor in there are plenty of fans like Darth here that are going to scream and cry their little heads off at any seeming slight and it's pretty damn hard to fix an NBA game.

The Mavs lost last year because Miami played better and deserved to win. Any dignity for that team was lost long ago by the incesant @itching of their fans and owner. A Win is a Win and a Lose is an Lose. Even if you do get robbed you shut up and work harder for next year. Any of my high school football coaches would slap your whiney ears back for @itching still a year later.
This post says tons bout you...

ONE you havent been here long enough to past judgment
TWO..your naivite(sp).. next your gonna tell me theres a fat man in a red suit flyin with reindeer bringin me gifts every december:huh:

edit: i had more but i realized i was passing judgement too.. lol.. oops sorry

cause i believe theres is an ULTERIOR motive to somethings MR stern and his LEAGUE do .. makes me whiny.. or is it MORE OPEN to possibilities?? I'm not cryin about it.. im simply sayin if you close your eyes to it.. your as blind as the judgements you pass... talk about moraldefiency:whatever:

What the hell has this thread turned into! Is this the way it is going to be every f-ing year! People complaining about the refs, & how stern called up Bavetta, & had him initiate order 66! Give me a break people seriously. My team lost. There were bad calls in that series as well. There are bad calls in every series. Please for the love of god let it go!
LOL ORDER 66.. I LIKE IT! :woot:

[Ben Urich]

I know I've posted this before, but it bears re-posting, especially with the new YT video tags. :up:

CWvzrbpcHfE

LeBron James, ladies and gentlemen. :o

bHVqoyIvCFU

Dwight Howard's game-winning alley-oop. :wow::up:

Both of those highlights feature Tim Duncan getting sonned, so I'll post a pro-Duncan highlight in the spirit of fairness.

MljtCOZ1m_c

:up:

[Trainwreck2100]

Wow, you are right, the Spurs and Duncan are going to get schooled, looks like I'm gonna have to cry and watch the 03 05 championship DVDs now.

[DarthRekal]

LOL ben.. i effin laffd my arse off..AHHAHAHA

[Immortalfire]

Donovan is almost out..
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AtFMTe2AGjY3mwHtm.MdKYa8vLYF?slug=ap-magic-donovan&prov=ap&type=lgns

Way to hit the panic button, moron.

[Fran]

Oh wow, one dunk on Duncan means the Cavs are going to mop the floor with them? :dry:

[DarthRekal]

Donovan is almost out..
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AtFMTe2AGjY3mwHtm.MdKYa8vLYF?slug=ap-magic-donovan&prov=ap&type=lgns

Way to hit the panic button, moron.
i'll take SVG over Donovan anyday Ben... way to make up for that IDIOTS MOVE:up:

[Fran]

I wish Flip were gone already. We won't do anything besides another Conference Finals loss with him at the throne!

[Mister J]

Donovan's going to get jammed up from coaching in the league until the life of that contract would have expired. That's 5 years, Billy Boy. Has he come out and said anything else than the equivalent of "I changed my mind"? Jeez beasties, I hate to go shopping with this guy ...unless he was paying, cause, you know, ...he's like, rich. :up:

[Ben Urich]

Wow, you are right, the Spurs and Duncan are going to get schooled, looks like I'm gonna have to cry and watch the 03 05 championship DVDs now.

I'd cry if I had to watch 10 hours of the Spurs too. :o

Seriously, when did I say they were gonna get schooled? I just showed Duncan getting dunked on.

I still picked the Cavs in 6, but nowhere did I say the Spurs would get schooled.

LOL ben.. i effin laffd my arse off..AHHAHAHA

:woot:

Donovan is almost out..
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AtFMTe2AGjY3mwHtm.MdKYa8vLYF?slug=ap-magic-donovan&prov=ap&type=lgns

Way to hit the panic button, moron.

'Moron' is right. :down

Oh wow, one dunk on Duncan means the Cavs are going to mop the floor with them? :dry:

See my response to Trainwreck. :o

[Jerry!]

BBALL is alot diff than Baseball.. and calls in BBALL can be compared to blown calls in Football or blown plays in baseball.. one bad call can change the momentum of a ENTIRE game... ONE game can change an ENTIRE SERIES.. if you cant see that than theres no use even continuing



cause i believe theres is an ULTERIOR motive to somethings MR stern and his LEAGUE do .. makes me whiny.. or is it MORE OPEN to possibilities?? I'm not cryin about it.. im simply sayin if you close your eyes to it.. your as blind as the judgements you pass... talk about moraldefiency:whatever:


LOL ORDER 66.. I LIKE IT! :woot:

Well I am not going to argue that it APPEARS in some instances that somebody, be it Stern or whomever, is maybe pulling some strings, helping out a certain team. But for every instance of that for one team, the next game it looks just like that for the other team. Its just inconsistent is the point really. The debunker in this is that Stern himself has the power not to suspend Amare for that game, but didn't. He could have easily explained why he chose not to, and it would have passed as the right decision. Sure I think he would like the best players, most entertaining Finals that there could be, thats what everyone wants who is a fan and had their teams eliminated or just is a basketball fan in general. I just don't think he is going to go to those methods to make it happen based on his actions.

The inconsistency of the officiating should just dissolve this entirely by itself, but some people choose to see it a certain way and run with it, making up their own theories with Stern and his league fixing the games. Others choose to look at it with an unbiased perspective and understand it. And still others are just pissed that their team lost and have to vent on something, and the refs are usually just the right people for that blame to be put on.

[Trainwreck2100]

I'd cry if I had to watch 10 hours of the Spurs too. :o

Seriously, when did I say they were gonna get schooled? I just showed Duncan getting dunked on.




Loss=schooled where I come from son You're either good enough to win or you suck.

[Ben Urich]

Loss=schooled where I come from son You're either good enough to win or you suck.

Guess some people people still live in black-and-white worlds. Must be nice to oversimplify everything like that.
And don't call me "son."

[Trainwreck2100]

Guess some people people still live in black-and-white worlds. Must be nice to oversimplify everything like that.
And don't call me "son."


whatever you say bro

[Spider-Fan]

Is it really .. cause i could sworn you were GHOST for about the whole season up until now???? you sure know how to pick your time to be BOLD



RELAX .. "BASKETBALL FAN"... if you were here the whole season you know how sarcastic and extremist i can be.. it was an analogy and if you take it serious .. is it I the one who really needs to REALX:huh:



BBALL is alot diff than Baseball.. and calls in BBALL can be compared to blown calls in Football or blown plays in baseball.. one bad call can change the momentum of a ENTIRE game... ONE game can change an ENTIRE SERIES.. if you cant see that than theres no use even continuing




To be quite honest, I never go into the community boards, nor did I know this thread existed. Also, what does me coming here now have to do with my knowledge of sports? Because I don't frequent here much doesn't mean I don't know anything.

One game can change a series, but you act like the refs didn't give the Pistons anything, when they gave them game 2. Did I come hear whining about that then? No, I said "oh well...better luck next time", while the Pistons fans can't accept that even in the games they won, they got outplayed. Also, they showed laziness when they had a large lead in their series versus the Bulls, like they did here.

Bad calls happen in every game. Quite a few times in every game. It's life. However, while the Cavs handled these calls by concentrating on winning, the Pistons whined like little girls and lost focus.

Again, I will admit, LeBron in the finals is better for business, but if it is all about business for Stern, why did he let the Spurs take the series against the Suns? He didn't have to suspend the Suns 2 starters for the game, but he did and the Spurs won. The Suns would have been better for ratings.

Plus, the Cavs have been hot since the last 2 weeks of the season. If you think that had nothing to do with them winning the series, there is no point in continuing here.

[Jerry!]

I wouldn't say the Pistons as a team whined, just Wallace really.
Like I explained in my last post, there are inconsistencies to the theory that Stern wants this team or that team or whoever in the Finals.

[DarthRekal]

To be quite honest, I never go into the community boards, nor did I know this thread existed. Also, what does me coming here now have to do with my knowledge of sports? Because I don't frequent here much doesn't mean I don't know anything.

One game can change a series, but you act like the refs didn't give the Pistons anything, when they gave them game 2. Did I come hear whining about that then? No, I said "oh well...better luck next time", while the Pistons fans can't accept that even in the games they won, they got outplayed. Also, they showed laziness when they had a large lead in their series versus the Bulls, like they did here.

Bad calls happen in every game. Quite a few times in every game. It's life. However, while the Cavs handled these calls by concentrating on winning, the Pistons whined like little girls and lost focus.

Again, I will admit, LeBron in the finals is better for business, but if it is all about business for Stern, why did he let the Spurs take the series against the Suns? He didn't have to suspend the Suns 2 starters for the game, but he did and the Spurs won. The Suns would have been better for ratings.

Plus, the Cavs have been hot since the last 2 weeks of the season. If you think that had nothing to do with them winning the series, there is no point in continuing here.
cause you dont come here.. means you dont ME.. i never questioned your bball knowledge... i questioned your fandom but you explained that.. and i questioned your judgement of ME.. stern suspends kobe twice.. durin the season .. tell me thats not biased... kobe fell outa favor with stern after colorado and he wasnt a MODEL citizen... like TD and his BOYS... ... im not sayin teams cant win DESPITE the bias... I AM SAYING there IS A BIAS... all i do is open eyes.... i know bball... and i know when an outcome wasnt decided by BBALL

i had a better argument in my head but i got tired .. lol

[Ghostvirus]

Carnage, just lay off. He's got a point.

Every year some one becomes nuts about the refs screaming "the sky is falling!"

How about just accepting the fact that Detroit was beaten by a better team? Or that they got lazy, & Rasheed whined, so they lost?

NEXT TIME put a smiley in there :oldrazz: :cwink:LOL

Yeah, after I typed that I realized what I had done.:word:

ORDER 66.. I LIKE IT! :woot:

"& Now Detroit Pistons...You Will Die"
http://royalguard.pganet.com/pix/next/palpatine1.jpg

Well I am not going to argue that it APPEARS in some instances that somebody, be it Stern or whomever, is maybe pulling some strings, helping out a certain team. But for every instance of that for one team, the next game it looks just like that for the other team. Its just inconsistent is the point really. The debunker in this is that Stern himself has the power not to suspend Amare for that game, but didn't. He could have easily explained why he chose not to, and it would have passed as the right decision. Sure I think he would like the best players, most entertaining Finals that there could be, thats what everyone wants who is a fan and had their teams eliminated or just is a basketball fan in general. I just don't think he is going to go to those methods to make it happen based on his actions.

The inconsistency of the officiating should just dissolve this entirely by itself, but some people choose to see it a certain way and run with it, making up their own theories with Stern and his league fixing the games. Others choose to look at it with an unbiased perspective and understand it. And still others are just pissed that their team lost and have to vent on something, and the refs are usually just the right people for that blame to be put on.

Well said.:up:

Sadly no one will listen.:csad:

[moraldeficiency]

This post says tons bout you...

ONE you havent been here long enough to past judgment
TWO..your naivite(sp).. next your gonna tell me theres a fat man in a red suit flyin with reindeer bringin me gifts every december:huh:

edit: i had more but i realized i was passing judgement too.. lol.. oops sorry

cause i believe theres is an ULTERIOR motive to somethings MR stern and his LEAGUE do .. makes me whiny.. or is it MORE OPEN to possibilities?? I'm not cryin about it.. im simply sayin if you close your eyes to it.. your as blind as the judgements you pass... talk about moraldefiency:whatever:


LOL ORDER 66.. I LIKE IT! :woot:

Wow you whine and @itch about everything don't you. "I was just joking" sure, you were @itching I don't need to be here long to tell when someone's doing that and it's a copout to say it was a joke when your comments were neither sarcastic nor funny. Either that or you're just really bad at being funny in which case, stop.

Open to possibilities and not crying about it? Please you personified the whiney, @itchy fan that didn't get his way and just had to find an excuse. You're not open, you're grasping at desperate excuses.

[moraldeficiency]

http://www.realcavsfans.com/showthread.php?t=7861

Can't believe Lebron didn't sign this.

[dr venture]

Ok, back to pressing matters. How are the Spurs gonna handle Lebron?

In game 1, Bruce Bowen will stab Lebron twice in the kidney and when the officials run over, he raise his hands in the air like nothing happened even though the replays clearly show it. The game will go on Spurs win in 4, problem solved.:woot:

[moraldeficiency]

In game 1, Bruce Bowen will stab Lebron twice in the kidney and when the officials run over, he raise his hands in the air like nothing happened even though the replays clearly show it. The game will go on Spurs win in 4, problem solved.:woot:

I see no flaw in this logic.

[Spider-Fan]

cause you dont come here.. means you dont ME.. i never questioned your bball knowledge... i questioned your fandom but you explained that.. and i questioned your judgement of ME.. stern suspends kobe twice.. durin the season .. tell me thats not biased... kobe fell outa favor with stern after colorado and he wasnt a MODEL citizen... like TD and his BOYS... ... im not sayin teams cant win DESPITE the bias... I AM SAYING there IS A BIAS... all i do is open eyes.... i know bball... and i know when an outcome wasnt decided by BBALL

i had a better argument in my head but i got tired .. lol

I grew up outside Cleveland, so I love all the Cleveland teams (Indians, Cavs, and especially the Browns). Hell, I still where my Kemp jersey from when he was on our team. I hear it from Yanks and Mets fans, in fact. I finally has some rights over them now (with the Cavs, and the Yanks slow season with the Yanks fans). I only now have started going into the community forums...once the playoffs are over (or when I am done gloating depending on what happens), I will focus my attention to the MLB thread.

Back to the subject at hand. Well, Kobe did elbow two guys in the face (the second time he deserved the suspension...not the first). As for bias, bias has existed for eons in the NBA. Jordan used to benefit from it all the time, but Detroit back then still always beat the Bulls (until the Bulls finally did it). It isn't the teams getting the benefits, just the individual. One superstar can't win you a series. That is why I can't buy this. Gooden, Varajao, etc. were not getting slanted calls. LeBron will, like Jordan, but thats it. He is one guy. One guy getting a few calls his way will not win a game. The other Cavs just stepped up when they had to (as they have since the last 2 weeks of the season).

[Fran]

Every year some one becomes nuts about the refs screaming "the sky is falling!"

How about just accepting the fact that Detroit was beaten by a better team? Or that they got lazy, & Rasheed whined, so they lost?

I already DID say that Cleveland wanted it more. I DID say that they were the better team.

And I DO want Rasheed gone, because he's a cancer to the team.

You've turned into an uptight little prick ever since the Bulls got their asses beat.

[Milkman95]

I hope cute little Cleveland can win, but I just don't see it happening. Best of luck to them.

[Fran]

The Spurs are too much to handle, IMO. Cleveland will get 2/3 at home, but SA will close it out in game 6.

[DarthRekal]

I grew up outside Cleveland, so I love all the Cleveland teams (Indians, Cavs, and especially the Browns). Hell, I still where my Kemp jersey from when he was on our team. I hear it from Yanks and Mets fans, in fact. I finally has some rights over them now (with the Cavs, and the Yanks slow season with the Yanks fans). I only now have started going into the community forums...once the playoffs are over (or when I am done gloating depending on what happens), I will focus my attention to the MLB thread.

Back to the subject at hand. Well, Kobe did elbow two guys in the face (the second time he deserved the suspension...not the first). As for bias, bias has existed for eons in the NBA. Jordan used to benefit from it all the time, but Detroit back then still always beat the Bulls (until the Bulls finally did it). It isn't the teams getting the benefits, just the individual. One superstar can't win you a series. That is why I can't buy this. Gooden, Varajao, etc. were not getting slanted calls. LeBron will, like Jordan, but thats it. He is one guy. One guy getting a few calls his way will not win a game. The other Cavs just stepped up when they had to (as they have since the last 2 weeks of the season).
i dont question your fandom anymore .. i apologize...

as far as your last statement.. tell that to BRYON RUSSELL and the Jazz... I'm done

[DarthRekal]

Wow you whine and @itch about everything don't you. "I was just joking" sure, you were @itching I don't need to be here long to tell when someone's doing that and it's a copout to say it was a joke when your comments were neither sarcastic nor funny. Either that or you're just really bad at being funny in which case, stop.

Open to possibilities and not crying about it? Please you personified the whiney, @itchy fan that didn't get his way and just had to find an excuse. You're not open, you're grasping at desperate excuses.
kids :whatever:


when you grow up .. you will realize internet cred is just as valuable as street cred in life...:ninja:

[Ghostvirus]

I already DID say that Cleveland wanted it more. I DID say that they were the better team.

And I DO want Rasheed gone, because he's a cancer to the team.

You've turned into an uptight little prick ever since the Bulls got their asses beat.


I haven't become a prick. I hold no grudges against the Bulls losing. That is in the past. Time to look at the future.

I am just tired of all the conspiracy talk. It is just plain stupid.

[DarthRekal]

any word on who you trading for or picking up in the draft MC?

[Ghostvirus]

any word on who you trading for or picking up in the draft MC?

No.:csad:

How about your team?

[Spider-Fan]

i dont question your fandom anymore .. i apologize...


No problem. These things happen. Bandwagon fans get on my nerves, too.

[moraldeficiency]

kids :whatever:


when you grow up .. you will realize internet cred is just as valuable as street cred in life...:ninja:

Yeah I'm sure it's huge for overweight virgins such as yourself but in the real world no one could care any less. All I hear from you is whine, whine, @itch.

[DarthRekal]

No problem. These things happen. Bandwagon fans get on my nerves, too.

HATE EM.. specially being a Lakers fans... 40% left when shaq did ANOTHER 20% left in the last two years.. and im sure another 30 will leave if Kobe goes.. its good for me.. i just hate the IDEAL!:cmad:

No.:csad:

How about your team?

we lookin to package our pick to get JO or Camby... or BOTH:wow:


but word is we working HARD to get JO... we just tryin not to give Odom in the process... Kobe's ranting and whining (:cmad: ) got the Busses to agree to move Bynum.. too little too late if you ask me :csad:

[Jerry!]

I grew up outside Cleveland, so I love all the Cleveland teams (Indians, Cavs, and especially the Browns). .

Finally found an Indian fan on here. I have a question that has baffled me for the last year about Indian fans. Why in the world do you guys boo Jim Thome? I remember the first time he came back to Cleveland, it was horrible. People had signs saying "Support the Boo Thome Campaign" and other crap. I don't think I will ever understand that. That guy is probably the single nicest guy playing the game, he knits sweaters for his teammates, but why do you guys hate him? He wasn't re-signed because you guys wanted to go younger, and in the end you guys have ended up with a great ball club. He is going into the Hall with an Indian's hat. Frank Thomas in his later years was a complete crybaby and ******* and even made parting shots at the White Sox when he wasn't re-signed, yet when he returned with the A's last year, he got not one, but two standing ovations. Once for his first at bat, and the second about a minute later when he hit a home run against us. And he deserved it. Why do you guys boo someone like Jim Thome?

Sorry had to ask, know its the wrong place.

[Spider-Fan]

Finally found an Indian fan on here. I have a question that has baffled me for the last year about Indian fans. Why in the world do you guys boo Jim Thome? I remember the first time he came back to Cleveland, it was horrible. People had signs saying "Support the Boo Thome Campaign" and other crap. I don't think I will ever understand that. That guy is probably the single nicest guy playing the game, he knits sweaters for his teammates, but why do you guys hate him? He wasn't re-signed because you guys wanted to go younger, and in the end you guys have ended up with a great ball club. He is going into the Hall with an Indian's hat. Frank Thomas in his later years was a complete crybaby and ******* and even made parting shots at the White Sox when he wasn't re-signed, yet when he returned with the A's last year, he got not one, but two standing ovations. Once for his first at bat, and the second about a minute later when he hit a home run against us. And he deserved it. Why do you guys boo someone like Jim Thome?

Sorry had to ask, know its the wrong place.

The reason you will hear is because he said he was leaving because he wanted to be on a contender when we sucked, but when he was a Philly, he wasn't on a contender, so the fans felt betrayed and insulted by it. And Cleveland fans are not a forgiving bunch, especially when we hear from our hero the same thing we do from Steelers fans on a daily basis (and Pistons fans now, too).

I never shared that hatred toward Thome (I'd cheer every HR he gets if he wasn't a White Sock), but that is the reason.

[Jerry!]

But thats after the fact that Shapiro never had the intention of re-signing him in the first place. He doesn't deserve any kind of bitter feelings or hatred at all. Its just sad, I really like the team the Indians have, but the fans I just can't stand for that reason alone. If they can't understand that Thome was never going to be back because they were never going to re-sign him, then thats just ignorant. I guarantee you that if the White Sox were to let Thome go at the end of the season, and say Detroit or Minnesota or whomever were to pick him up, he would still get a standing ovation at Chicago for just 2 years of service, compared to the Hall of Fame time he played at Cleveland and he gets booed out of the stadium. Its not right.

[Spider-Fan]

I agree, it isn't right. I love Thome. He used to be my favorite player during that team's era. I just do not like his current team.

[Trainwreck2100]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-cheeringnuns&prov=ap&type=lgns


we have God on our side.

[DarthRekal]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-cheeringnuns&prov=ap&type=lgns


we have God on our side.

GOD is overrated:o :oldrazz:

[Fran]

God likes the Spurs.

That's awesome.

[DarthRekal]

God likes the Spurs.

That's awesome.
apparently guys that dont commit adultery or treason are in favor with his almightyness. go figure:csad:

[Fran]

Then how did Kobe get 3 rings? :huh:

[DarthRekal]

Then how did Kobe get 3 rings? :huh:


he didnt.. Fisher did:csad:

[Trainwreck2100]

God is a forgiving god, but he can't stand by and let this false "king" be raised to glory.

[DarthRekal]

God is a forgiving god, but he can't stand by and let this false "king" be raised to glory.


LOL.. that was actually a good metaphor/pun:up:

[Fran]

God is a forgiving god, but he can't stand by and let this false "king" be raised to glory.

BRAVO!!! :up::up::up:

[LostSon88]

The Top 20 plays of the playoffs...thus far.

http://thepaintedarea.blogspot.com/2007/06/top-20-plays-of-playoffs-so-far.html

I agree...then again, I am a Warriors fan. :woot:

[Ben Urich]

The new coach of the Magic is Ron Je... er, Stan Van Gundy. :up:

[Trainwreck2100]

Because his wife didn't like Sac.

[NewYorkSpider]

Glad to see the Magic get Stan.

[Mister J]

Draft pick compensation for the Heatians. :up:

[Ben Urich]

Haha, the Sentinel's website still says "MAGIC LIKELY LOSE VAN GUNDY TO KINGS."

O, internet. :o

[Jerry!]

Draft pick compensation for the Heatians. :up:

Yeah, I heard about that. Thats a bunch of bull****, I have never seen that happen ever. What always happens is the team inquiring about the coach simply asks permission and its granted. In this case, he wasn't even head coach, but a "consultant" because Riley decided he wanted to coach again and had him lie to the press about wanting to see his family. Yeah I guess one year with your family is long enough right? Smells like bull**** to me. I'd be pissed if I were a Magic fan.

[FEAR THE BAT]

Because his wife didn't like Sac.

If this is true then Stan Van Gundy really isn't Ron Jeremy.

[Mister J]

Yeah, I heard about that. Thats a bunch of bull****, I have never seen that happen ever. What always happens is the team inquiring about the coach simply asks permission and its granted. In this case, he wasn't even head coach, but a "consultant" because Riley decided he wanted to coach again and had him lie to the press about wanting to see his family. Yeah I guess one year with your family is long enough right? Smells like bull**** to me. I'd be pissed if I were a Magic fan.
Van Gundy was under contract for another year and Miami didn't have to release him at all. Why should they let a division rival benefit without compensation? Nobody forced Orlando to do anything here. I don't see the problem.

This isn't unprecedented either. Miami had to give the Knicks a first rounder and one million dollars to get Riley. I'm certain it's happened other times in the league, but that one comes to mind.

[L.A.]

Then how did Kobe get 3 rings? :huh:

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9803/1134140603290shaqjj4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Spider-Fan]

Tonight Game 1!

LET'S GO CAVS!!! LET'S GO CAVS!!!

Anyone doing anything special for it?

[moraldeficiency]

Tonight Game 1!

LET'S GO CAVS!!! LET'S GO CAVS!!!

Anyone doing anything special for it?

I'm getting drunk, stoned and eating chicken wings. (oh wait, that's what I always do)

[moraldeficiency]

I'm pulling for the cavs too, I've always gotta pull for the underdog and the godless

[L.A.]

my picks: Spurs in 6

SA, SA, CC, SA, CC, SA

[Spider-Fan]

I'm getting drunk, stoned and eating chicken wings. (oh wait, that's what I always do)

Wish I could do that, lol.

[DarthRekal]

The new coach of the Magic is Ron Je... er, Stan Van Gundy. :up:

Draft pick compensation for the Heatians. :up:
Miami again showing their underbelly.. if it wasnt for folx like J .. i'd have to go ahead and despise them :cmad:

but SVG is good .. i think he will be better than Donovan had the potential to be
Tonight Game 1!

LET'S GO CAVS!!! LET'S GO CAVS!!!

Anyone doing anything special for it?

you mean is any one gonna WATCH!???:huh:

ppl will watch to see lebron do something BUT if the spurs blow them out or stop lebron... everyone is goin NHL on this finals... trust



edit: this is coming from LA perspective... we(the majority of LA fans) are in the Cavs corner... we cant stand the Spurs(sept for NOFX)... so if the tide turns in the Sturns favor... we will tune out.. and so will most of america.. NY has NO vested interest at all so dont expect help from them

[Spider-Fan]

No, but if you go to a sports bar, you will get out of towners and people who just want to have fun.

I will probably have the loudest voice in the room though, lol.

[DarthRekal]

you guys realize finals is


2-3-2 :huh:

i know most y'all do .. but it might sway some of the individual game picks... i totally forgot so i think im goin back to change mine .. lol

[DarthRekal]

No, but if you go to a sports bar, you will get out of towners and people who just want to have fun.

I will probably have the loudest voice in the room though, lol.
not here i'm just sayin... LA ppl myself included only tune in when theres something in it for them.. seeing the spurs LOSE is it for us.. if the cavs put up a good fight you got US.. but we not making a big deal til we see them on the ropes ...

but hey

GO BRON BRON! :woot:

[moraldeficiency]

I might agree except it's the finals. Look I hate baseball (so boring to me I cannot describe it) but I watch the world series ever year. One because you never know and two cause it's the freaking finals. A lot of people tuned out after the first two games last year and ended up missing a history making performance and Cuban's head litterally spinning around and spewing vomit like that kid in the exorchist (misspelled I know, I'm too lazy to do anything about it).

[DarthRekal]

I might agree except it's the finals. Look I hate baseball (so boring to me I cannot describe it) but I watch the world series ever year. One because you never know and two cause it's the freaking finals. A lot of people tuned out after the first two games last year and ended up missing a history making performance and Cuban's head litterally spinning around and spewing vomit like that kid in the exorchist (misspelled I know, I'm too lazy to do anything about it).
i agree .. but .. i tuned out last year BECAUSE i didnt wana see the HEAT win(with OUR center).. again comes back to whats in it for me


yeah us LA fans are LAKERCENTRIC.. but hey its how we're bred:csad:

[moraldeficiency]

i agree .. but .. i tuned out last year BECAUSE i didnt wana see the HEAT win(with OUR center).. again comes back to whats in it for me


yeah us LA fans are LAKERCENTRIC.. but hey its how we're bred:csad:

I understand I was a huge laker fan back before I lived in this country especially Magic (who I think Lebron resembles a lot more closely than Jordan) but since I moved to Florida I had to pull for the heat. It's been a long and humiliating run until recently.

LA might tune out, but I don't think too many basketball fans can resist the finals (admit it you had to flip back every so often for at least a peek).

[Spider-Fan]

What's going on with Kobe now? What's the talk in LA?

[Fran]

They're working on trading for Jermaine O'Neal and possibly Marcus Camby.

[DarthRekal]

What's going on with Kobe now? What's the talk in LA?
supposedly phil talked him into stayin by leaking to him ..we are tryin to get Jermaine Oneal.. i'll believe it wehn i see it.. but i lost all faith in Kobe.. im a Lakers fan not a Kobe fan... and i dont care if he leaves or not.. if he dont wana be here then get out.. i said it with shaq.. its only fair i say it with him.. love us or leave us!:cmad:
I understand I was a huge laker fan back before I lived in this country especially Magic (who I think Lebron resembles a lot more closely than Jordan) but since I moved to Florida I had to pull for the heat. It's been a long and humiliating run until recently.

LA might tune out, but I don't think too many basketball fans can resist the finals (admit it you had to flip back every so often for at least a peek).
SHHH dont tell J:ninja:

but yeah i will stil check it out.. i am a BBALL fan and like watchin good BBALL ... like i said if the CAVs put up a fight.. they got us... if they get trounced.. its DODGER time:oldrazz:


and BTW.. MAGIC= greatest player EVER(yes better than whats his face too) and bron does remind me of him.. which is why i can NEVER hate on him no matter how much i try :csad:

[Fran]

Magic is the greatest player ever. And he came from a great basketball college.

[moraldeficiency]

supposedly phil talked him into stayin by leaking to him ..we are tryin to get Jermaine Oneal.. i'll believe it wehn i see it.. but i lost all faith in Kobe.. im a Lakers fan not a Kobe fan... and i dont care if he leaves or not.. if he dont wana be here then get out.. i said it with shaq.. its only fair i say it with him.. love us or leave us!:cmad:

SHHH dont tell J:ninja:

but yeah i will stil check it out.. i am a BBALL fan and like watchin good BBALL ... like i said if the CAVs put up a fight.. they got us... if they get trounced.. its DODGER time:oldrazz:


and BTW.. MAGIC= greatest player EVER(yes better than whats his face too) and bron does remind me of him.. which is why i can NEVER hate on him no matter how much i try :csad:


Yeah I can't think of anyone I would rather have on a team than Magic because he lead as well as played great ball. Everyone talks about Lebron being the new Mike which I get because of the stardom but in terms of playing, his size, speed, the way he passes the ball and sees the open man I can't see anyone not saying that comparison is the most valid.

[DarthRekal]

Magic is the greatest player ever. And he came from a great basketball college.
:up: at least you didnt say BEST basketball college:oldrazz:
Yeah I can't think of anyone I would rather have on a team than Magic because he lead as well as played great ball. Everyone talks about Lebron being the new Mike which I get because of the stardom but in terms of playing, his size, speed, the way he passes the ball and sees the open man I can't see anyone not saying that comparison is the most valid.
agreed.. and now that he's got his confidence in the "show" .. it's a don dada for the league.... they unleashed the monster:wow: :csad: .. too bad we cant do a bron for kobe deal now :cmad: :csad:

[Spider-Fan]

supposedly phil talked him into stayin by leaking to him ..we are tryin to get Jermaine Oneal.. i'll believe it wehn i see it.. but i lost all faith in Kobe.. im a Lakers fan not a Kobe fan... and i dont care if he leaves or not.. if he dont wana be here then get out.. i said it with shaq.. its only fair i say it with him.. love us or leave us!:cmad:

SHHH dont tell J:ninja:

but yeah i will stil check it out.. i am a BBALL fan and like watchin good BBALL ... like i said if the CAVs put up a fight.. they got us... if they get trounced.. its DODGER time:oldrazz:


and BTW.. MAGIC= greatest player EVER(yes better than whats his face too) and bron does remind me of him.. which is why i can NEVER hate on him no matter how much i try :csad:

Kobe is a great player, but I agree, if he doesn't want to there, then he should go.

[Fran]

But Michigan State IS one of the elite college basketball programs around.

Not the best, but one of them.

[DarthRekal]

Kobe is a great player, but I agree, if he doesn't want to there, then he should go.
Kobe is the BEST player i have seen live... i didnt get a chance to see Magic in his prime play at the forum(lets just say we weren the most priveleged of families)


but Kobe has given me a lot of memories.. i just feel so betrayed now.. and he's not the greatest of ppl.. so .. I'll trade you superstars?:huh:

[DarthRekal]

But Michigan State IS one of the elite college basketball programs around.

Not the best, but one of them.
Tangled Web is gonna have to one up you and i will take his side...


*cough*UCLA*cough* :woot:

[Fran]

I didn't say we were the best :huh:

[DarthRekal]

I didn't say we were the best :huh:
i know.. thats why i said "at least you didnt say best":woot:

[Spider-Fan]

Kobe is the BEST player i have seen live... i didnt get a chance to see Magic in his prime play at the forum(lets just say we weren the most priveleged of families)


but Kobe has given me a lot of memories.. i just feel so betrayed now.. and he's not the greatest of ppl.. so .. I'll trade you superstars?:huh:

No thanks. I think we'll keep LeBron.

Never seen Kobe live. He is great to watch on TV, though. The only time I went to a Cavs and Lakers game was before Kobe was around.

[DarthRekal]

No thanks. I think we'll keep LeBron.

Never seen Kobe live. He is great to watch on TV, though. The only time I went to a Cavs and Lakers game was before Kobe was around.
lol.. good choice :csad:


if you get a chance GO!..

Kobe is AMAZING.... i mean Lebron is too... but OFFENSIVELY... lebron has years left to catch KOBE... Kobe can score WHENEVER HE WANTS... which is his fault too.. but check him out no matter WHO you are if you know basketball you can APPRECIATE kobe's offense... dont have to like the cat personally but homes can BALL:wow:

[moraldeficiency]

Hey Fran, knocked up was good? My girlfriend wants me to take her to the movies over the weekend and I'm trying to find one she would like that I won't need to be high to tolerate.

[DarthRekal]

Hey Fran, knocked up was good? My girlfriend wants me to take her to the movies over the weekend and I'm trying to find one she would like that I won't need to be high to tolerate.
sorry dont mean to interject.. but Knocked Up is HELLA GOOD.. you will enjoy it.. its funny.. and Heigl is HOT!...

and if you smoke . you will enjoy it ..gots some cool stoner scenes

[Fran]

Let me just say this:

It is my favorite movie of the year by far. The ending just left me smiling outside the theater.

And I so wanna bang Katherine Heigl. :o

[Spider-Fan]

lol.. good choice :csad:


if you get a chance GO!..

Kobe is AMAZING.... i mean Lebron is too... but OFFENSIVELY... lebron has years left to catch KOBE... Kobe can score WHENEVER HE WANTS... which is his fault too.. but check him out no matter WHO you are if you know basketball you can APPRECIATE kobe's offense... dont have to like the cat personally but homes can BALL:wow:

Lakers only go to Cleveland once a year and the Garden once a year, so it is tougher for me to catch the man (especially now that Cavs tickets are getting expensive). I'd like to, though.

[moraldeficiency]

Interject all you want, I just asked him cause of the sig. Yeah I'm a smoker, so cool I will light up. Good then cause I always get screwed when we pick movies (unless it's the drive in, then it's the kind of screwing I don't mind).

Thanks

[DarthRekal]

Lakers only go to Cleveland once a year and the Garden once a year, so it is tougher for me to catch the man (especially now that Cavs tickets are getting expensive).
I know what you mean Lakers tickets cost a kidney and the Cavs games sell out on the first day :csad:

[Spider-Fan]

I know what you mean Lakers tickets cost a kidney and the Cavs games sell out on the first day :csad:

I know, now I have to ebay for tickets practically to get them, and those auctions can get pricey. Especially when they play teams with stars, like the Lakers.

[moraldeficiency]

Same here, especially since trump got involved (the assbag).

[L.A.]

They're working on trading for Jermaine O'Neal and possibly Marcus Camby.
That Camby deal is dead. Lakers are trying to get O'neal but there trying to do it without Odom. And Odom said he be very unhappy if he was traded to the pacers. Another rumor I read was that the Lakers are now trying to get Okafor.

[DarthRekal]

Interject all you want, I just asked him cause of the sig. Yeah I'm a smoker, so cool I will light up. Good then cause I always get screwed when we pick movies (unless it's the drive in, then it's the kind of screwing I don't mind).

Thanks
No prob enjoy the flick
That Camby deal is dead. Lakers are trying to get O'neal but there trying to do it without Odom. And Odom said he be very unhappy if he was traded to the pacers. Another rumor I read was that the Lakers are now trying to get Okafor.

i would give ANYTHING for okafor!:wow:

[Jerry!]

I have my doubts on Okafor. But I don't think that the general public will necessarily tune out if the Spurs go up 2-0. Detroit was up 2-0 and the Cavs went on to sweep the rest of the games . Furthermore, in Detroit's entire post season history they have never lost a series when up 2 games until now. So anything is possible. And the NHL is still around?

[Spider-Fan]

I have my doubts on Okafor. But I don't think that the general public will necessarily tune out if the Spurs go up 2-0. Detroit was up 2-0 and the Cavs went on to sweep the rest of the games . Furthermore, in Detroit's entire post season history they have never lost a series when up 2 games until now. So anything is possible. And the NHL is still around?

Yep. Ducks won the cup.

[Fran]

^ Unfortunately.

[Mister J]

Spurs in 6 :dry:

SA SA CLE SA CLE SA

I hope this thing doesn't suck.

[Fran]

I forgot it was on tonight.

And I haven't even done the last series final standings