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GoldenAgeHero
06-25-2007, 07:50 PM
I"ve usually noticed that supermodel type black girls date white guys because thier kid wants to have good hair and that they think thier too good for black males,especially when it comes to the white male providing a lifestyle that only a white man can give them. something I call white passage.

jaguarr
06-25-2007, 07:54 PM
Again, it's the High IQ Theory. :woot: :oldrazz:

Haw! :D

No one sees the irony in that woman being named Coco. We may as well call Esther Baxter Snowflake.

Wait...her name is really Coco? That's like a name you give to a pet monkey. Or a porn actress. :dry: I still think she looks horridly fake. :down

jag

terry78
06-25-2007, 08:44 PM
http://www.mediatakeout.com/6253/keenen_ivory_wayans_and_the_woman_who_stole_him_fr om_his_wife.html

What's your thoughts on Keenan dating Brittany Daniels? The comments below it are just...wow. :o

Memphis Slim
06-25-2007, 08:52 PM
Haw! :D



Wait...her name is really Coco? That's like a name you give to a pet monkey. Or a porn actress. :dry: I still think she looks horridly fake. :down

jag

Dude...not all of her is fake.......she's curved like a sista'......like Melyssa Ford or Esther Baxter.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r129/spicypants/csmack-coco.jpg

GoldenAgeHero
06-25-2007, 09:01 PM
http://www.mediatakeout.com/6253/keenen_ivory_wayans_and_the_woman_who_stole_him_fr om_his_wife.html

What's your thoughts on Keenan dating Brittany Daniels? The comments below it are just...wow. :o


the comments are hilarious "omgs nooes not a white girlz" lmao


and to be honest i can see why he left his wife for her. shes youngerand hotter. lots ofold men leave thier wives for youngerones.

terry78
06-25-2007, 09:02 PM
Brittany has always been somewhat of a hottie though, from Sweet Valley High(yes, I used to watch it) on up. She likes black dudes though as she dated Orlando Jones and some other guy before Keenan.

GoldenAgeHero
06-25-2007, 09:18 PM
orlando jones? eww but yeah shes pretty attractive,never knewshe was into brothers. but those comments are really uncalled for.people like them, that kinda turns me off from intteracial dating. i dont feel like dealing with thosepeople.

jaguarr
06-25-2007, 09:44 PM
Dude...not all of her is fake.......she's curved like a sista'......like Melyssa Ford or Esther Baxter.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r129/spicypants/csmack-coco.jpg


Still not seeing the attraction, man. She looks too fake and plastic for my tastes. *shrug*

jag

Lightning Strykez!
06-26-2007, 12:30 AM
Hah...Coco looks like the Invisible Woman. And that's not a good thing.

Oh, and did anyone else notice that the Community forum is looking more and more like the United Nations every day? It's delightsome! :rolleyes:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/217/485185142_fec91f12fe.jpg?v=0

Lightning Strykez!
06-26-2007, 12:37 AM
I dated an extremely beautiful black girl in college. Had she not had to move away, who knows...we could have made a Caliph.

*shudders that the thought*

I love ya man but...but that would mean you'd also have to be extremely beautiful--not just yer black girl. You'd ruin my odds at being pret-tay. :o


:)

SurfDUI
06-26-2007, 12:42 AM
Dude...not all of her is fake.......she's curved like a sista'......like Melyssa Ford or Esther Baxter.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r129/spicypants/csmack-coco.jpg


Pre-op CoCo

http://www.mediatakeout.com/photo/1177073254CoCo_Fraud1.jpg

JP
06-26-2007, 12:43 AM
My head is killing me. :(

Lightning Strykez!
06-26-2007, 12:45 AM
My head is killing me. :(

Why?

MaskedManJRK
06-26-2007, 12:49 AM
Ice T pulled it up a notch.....


http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9546/557440427fw.jpg

I bet she ends up breakin' this dude's heart down the road.....

Heh--I like Ice-T and all, but I find it funny and ironic that he started his career with songs like "Cop Killer," but his main source of money and celebrity now is playing a cop on SVU. :o

As for Coco...yeah, she looks more plastic than human. :csad:

JP
06-26-2007, 12:49 AM
I donno.. I took aspirin hours ago, then went to sleep. I just woke up and it hurts more than ever. :(

Lightning Strykez!
06-26-2007, 12:54 AM
It's been awhile; it's time for another "This Or That" discussion...:up:

http://podcasts.portlandmercury.com/files/2006/10/goodtimes08.jpg
Good Times
Most Memorable Line(s): "Damn, damn, DAMN!!!!"
and
"It's Dyno-miiiiiiiiite!"

VS.

http://poplicks.com/images/sanford-and-son.jpg
Sanford & Son
Most Memorable Line(s): "I'm git you sucka!"
and
"Ya big dummy!"



Topic For Discussion: In your opinion, which blaxploitation comedy showcased "the struggle" and made a bigger impact on mainstream audiences? And which show did your parents seem to favor while you grew up?

JP
06-26-2007, 12:59 AM
Probably Good times.

But Sanford and Sun was the funniest **** evah!

"Oh, this is the biggest one I ever had. You hear that Elizabeth? I'm coming to join you honey."

Lightning Strykez!
06-26-2007, 01:23 AM
See, I'm torn.

"Good Times" had a LOT of memorable moments...and great actors.

http://www.tvparty.com/vgifs13/goodtimes5.jpg

I was a kid when the father 'James' died and when Flo dropped that dish!!?!? "Damn! Damn! DAMN!"...I almost cried.

On the other hand...

"Sanford & Son" had Aunt Esther--the 1970's Black Vampire Godmother of both Sheneyney AND Wanda.

http://www.whoknew.us/images/LaWanda_Page.gif

:eek:

My parents watched the Sanford & Son more though. But I think I prefer "Good Times" for myself.

Incrediblejeff
06-26-2007, 01:31 AM
Sanford & Son easily.I thought It was a much funnier show.My Grandfather & Uncle's life basically mirrored that show.

SurfDUI
06-26-2007, 01:35 AM
Heh--I like Ice-T and all, but I find it funny and ironic that he started his career with songs like "Cop Killer,"


Ice-T was the MAN when I was in 5th grade and that was in '86 - he's been in the game for 20+. The band Body Count didn't come along til the early '90's. He had 6 ina mornin, and MONEY and the POWER wayyyy before 'Cop Killer'

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002LC6.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002LF6.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

This is what I think of when I hear Ice-T...this and Scotty's puppet...:oldrazz:
Check out the first CoCo before she got traded in...somebody may know this better but wasn't Darlene like 15 when he got w/ her?!?!?

RskimB
06-26-2007, 01:41 AM
Ice-T is seriously slept on. I'm Your Pusher got to be my favorite track of his. More of an Original Gangster fan.

http://www.cdpoint.com.br/imagens/07599264922.jpg

JP
06-26-2007, 01:54 AM
Sanford and Son had that kick ass theme song too. :up:

Manic
06-26-2007, 02:04 AM
Sanford and Son was funnier, but Good Times was great at showing the struggles of an African-American family. I mean, let's be real. Sanford and Son is the American remake of a British comedy.

jimmy
06-26-2007, 02:05 AM
Pre-op CoCo

http://www.mediatakeout.com/photo/1177073254CoCo_Fraud1.jpg

All the lies. :(

Casius--J
06-26-2007, 03:12 AM
http://www.mediatakeout.com/6253/keenen_ivory_wayans_and_the_woman_who_stole_him_fr om_his_wife.html

What's your thoughts on Keenan dating Brittany Daniels? The comments below it are just...wow. :o

Noway he's datin that chick from sweet valley high, she's hot yeah used to love her off back in the day. But leavin your wife and mother of your 5kids for another woman??

Not cool!!

SurfDUI
06-26-2007, 03:35 AM
your 5kids for another woman??

Not cool!!

Aww hell naw, I thought yall was talkin bout Keenen from Good Burger- I was like so the F what...

Keenan IVORY , Daumn!!
His wife was cute too.

Manic
06-26-2007, 03:46 AM
Nope, we're talking about one of the only two talented Wayans brothers (the other being Damon, of course).

SurfDUI
06-26-2007, 03:49 AM
Don't sleep on Shawn and Marlon...it takes talent to play a fiddle...:whatever:

Manic
06-26-2007, 03:53 AM
Shawn and Marlon are the examples I use when people ask me what "nepotism" means. Their careers are the result of begging to be on their big brother's show (In Living Color). Hell, Shawn wasn't even a real DJ when he was SW1; he just mimicked turntable actions while someone in the control room pressed the "play" button.

SurfDUI
06-26-2007, 03:56 AM
Shawn wasn't even a real DJ when he was SW1; he just mimicked turntable actions while someone in the control room pressed the "play" button.


Get the Fk out of here!! -Are you serious, there goes what little cred I gave that brotha over the years.
I talk about them fools all the time- but hey, there movies are damn near billion dollars worth gross by now.

Manic
06-26-2007, 04:45 AM
Get the Fk out of here!! -Are you serious, there goes what little cred I gave that brotha over the years.
I talk about them fools all the time- but hey, there movies are damn near billion dollars worth gross by now.
Rent a DVD or catch a rerun. Notice that he's always scratching the records, even when there's absolutely no mixing sounds. You probably never noticed because he was never on camera for more than 3 seconds before they focused on the Fly Girls.

GoldenAgeHero
06-26-2007, 05:27 AM
Noway he's datin that chick from sweet valley high, she's hot yeah used to love her off back in the day. But leavin your wife and mother of your 5kids for another woman??

Not cool!!


nah, i dont think it went down like taht tho. im pretty sure they were alredy divorced or had already split up before they got together. we dont know the full story,so leys not job to conclusions.

Lightning Strykez!
06-26-2007, 07:32 AM
Get the Fk out of here!! -Are you serious, there goes what little cred I gave that brotha over the years.
I talk about them fools all the time- but hey, there movies are damn near billion dollars worth gross by now.

It's true. SW1 was a facade.

KenK
06-26-2007, 09:39 AM
http://www.mediatakeout.com/6253/keenen_ivory_wayans_and_the_woman_who_stole_him_fr om_his_wife.html

What's your thoughts on Keenan dating Brittany Daniels? The comments below it are just...wow. :o


I don't know what the circumstances are, so I don't feel it's my place to pass judgment. Reading the comments gave me a freakin' headache. Especially hypocrites who say it's fine if a black woman dates a white man in retaliation. That's bulls**t and I'm tired of black women pullin' that s**t! It's like my sister who hates black male/white female porn, but gets a lot of white male/black female porn (and the really low-budget kind, at that! Bleh!).

To say nothing of the fact that Keenan and his wife had already split before Britney even came into the picture. They married in 2001 for crying out loud, and separated two years later. But no one ever wants to take things like that into consideration. It's ALWAYS the man's fault, and he's always seen as an a$$hole, and the woman is ALWAYS the victim.

Sometimes marriages just don't work out. Some people grow apart, and the idea that people should just be complacent with a person they don't love anymore is utterly ridiculous.

As for the race issue, I know a lot of people want to jump to the whole status conclusion, and Keenan just wanted a white woman to be on his arm. Whether that's the case or not, none of us really know for sure. If so, he waited a pretty damn long time after his heyday to trade up. The reign of the Wayans has been over for a good decade (outside of the success of the first Scary Movie). Furthermore, I hate this delusion people have that black men "trading up" with white women when they get famous is so prevelant that couples like Will and Jada are a rarity. That's crap! If you look at the statistics for married black athletes, most of them are married to black women. Actors like Denzel, Samuel L. Jackson, Lawrence Fishburne, etc., married to black women.

And let's not front like most of us aren't on the "Hype's Hottest Women" Thread oggling beckys, and then coming here to say "Shame on you!"* to Keenan for hookin' up with one.

*You like that Shame reference, huh?!

Memphis Slim
06-26-2007, 09:57 AM
Still not seeing the attraction, man. She looks too fake and plastic for my tastes. *shrug*


jag



http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r129/spicypants/csmack-coco.jpg
Still not seeing the attraction, man. She looks too fake and plastic for my tastes. *shrug*

jag
__________________

Hey....as some comedians say.....if she paid over a grand for it, it's hers. :whatever:

But I get where you're comin' from.

jaguarr
06-26-2007, 09:58 AM
Pre-op CoCo

http://www.mediatakeout.com/photo/1177073254CoCo_Fraud1.jpg


Oh, man....that's fugly. Shrinkage causing, even. I knew she was mostly plastic parts. Blech!

*shudders that the thought*

I love ya man but...but that would mean you'd also have to be extremely beautiful--not just yer black girl. You'd ruin my odds at being pret-tay. :o


:)


You would have been beautiful! :o

jag

jaguarr
06-26-2007, 09:59 AM
Hey....as some comedians say.....if she paid over a grand for it, it's hers. :whatever:

But I get where you're comin' from.

Haha! :D

jag

Memphis Slim
06-26-2007, 10:01 AM
It's been awhile; it's time for another "This Or That" discussion...:up:

http://podcasts.portlandmercury.com/files/2006/10/goodtimes08.jpg
Good Times
Most Memorable Line(s): "Damn, damn, DAMN!!!!"
and
"It's Dyno-miiiiiiiiite!"

VS.

http://poplicks.com/images/sanford-and-son.jpg
Sanford & Son
Most Memorable Line(s): "I'm git you sucka!"
and
"Ya big dummy!"



Topic For Discussion: In your opinion, which blaxploitation comedy showcased "the struggle" and made a bigger impact on mainstream audiences? And which show did your parents seem to favor while you grew up?


I can't choose. Friday nights were always an event. I'd come inside to watch Sanford with the Fam. My uncle was a Fred junkie........

But everbody was always doing the "welll you know, what can I say?" (while twirling the peach fuzz on the top lip) J.J. was the man. But I kinda' lost it for me after Norman Lear killed the Father.

jaguarr
06-26-2007, 10:02 AM
J.J. isn't fit to tie Red Foxx's shoes. Foxx was a certified genius. :up:

jag

terry78
06-26-2007, 10:06 AM
Sanford and Son was a very smart show, regardless of how ghetto it may have appeared to some. Lamont was as intellectual as they come, and Fred made political and cultural commentary often in between his fake heart attack bouts. During the second season when Nixon had to resign, they made a lot of cracks about the current events.

jaguarr
06-26-2007, 10:09 AM
Sanford and Son was a very smart show, regardless of how ghetto it may have appeared to some. Lamont was as intellectual as they come, and Fred made political and cultural commentary often in between his fake heart attack bouts. During the second season when Nixon had to resign, they made a lot of cracks about the current events.

Agreed. They pushed the socio-political and racial barriers pretty often. I put it on par with "All In The Family" in that regard, only it was a lot funnier.

jag

Memphis Slim
06-26-2007, 10:14 AM
Especially between blacks and Puerto Ricans....remember Hulio?? I guess I spelled that right....:whatever:

PyroChamber
06-26-2007, 10:53 AM
I will agree with you in that regards. Any white guys I see dating black girls, the girl looks on par with a supermodel almost. The reverse, while I have seen some black guys with stunning white women, a lot I have seen are....blech.My guess is that it's the only way a black man can date a white woman with a big booty. I almost got with a white girl have had a big butt and she wasn't fat; then she told me her father was racist and she only dated guys who weren't white...I don't know about anyone else but that's a red flag for me.

If a white girl says she ONLY dates black men, chances are she's getting back at someone.

BTW, I was more a Sanford & Son fan.

terry78
06-26-2007, 10:55 AM
My guess is that it's the only way a black man can date a white woman with a big booty. I almost got with a white girl have had a big butt and she wasn't fat; then she told me her father was racist and she only dated guys who weren't white...I don't know about anyone else but that's a red flag for me.

If a white girl says she ONLY dates black men, chances are she's getting back at someone.

BTW, I was more a Sanford & Son fan.


I'd be more comfortable with a white girl that says she dates both black and white guys. If she's only dating negroes...that's a little iffy.

terry78
06-26-2007, 10:58 AM
edit.

Lightning Strykez!
06-26-2007, 11:01 AM
I don't know what the circumstances are, so I don't feel it's my place to pass judgment. Reading the comments gave me a freakin' headache. Especially hypocrites who say it's fine if a black woman dates a white man in retaliation. That's bulls**t and I'm tired of black women pullin' that s**t! It's like my sister who hates black male/white female porn, but gets a lot of white male/black female porn (and the really low-budget kind, at that! Bleh!).

To say nothing of the fact that Keenan and his wife had already split before Britney even came into the picture. They married in 2001 for crying out loud, and separated two years later. But no one ever wants to take things like that into consideration. It's ALWAYS the man's fault, and he's always seen as an a$$hole, and the woman is ALWAYS the victim.

Sometimes marriages just don't work out. Some people grow apart, and the idea that people should just be complacent with a person they don't love anymore is utterly ridiculous.

As for the race issue, I know a lot of people want to jump to the whole status conclusion, and Keenan just wanted a white woman to be on his arm. Whether that's the case or not, none of us really know for sure. If so, he waited a pretty damn long time after his heyday to trade up. The reign of the Wayans has been over for a good decade (outside of the success of the first Scary Movie). Furthermore, I hate this delusion people have that black men "trading up" with white women when they get famous is so prevelant that couples like Will and Jada are a rarity. That's crap! If you look at the statistics for married black athletes, most of them are married to black women. Actors like Denzel, Samuel L. Jackson, Lawrence Fishburne, etc., married to black women.

And let's not front like most of us aren't on the "Hype's Hottest Women" Thread oggling beckys, and then coming here to say "Shame on you!"* to Keenan for hookin' up with one.

*You like that Shame reference, huh?!

Well, dayum Ken. Tell us how you REALLY feel, why don'tcha! :oldrazz:

Lightning Strykez!
06-26-2007, 11:03 AM
Especially between blacks and Puerto Ricans....remember Hulio?? I guess I spelled that right....:whatever:

It's Julio baby. JULIO. :o

PyroChamber
06-26-2007, 11:04 AM
A lot of people complain and say "when a black man get rich and famous, he'll turn to a white girl" but if he is with a white woman from the beginning before he's rich and famous, does that still make people complain?

Soundwave
06-26-2007, 11:13 AM
http://www.mediatakeout.com/6253/keenen_ivory_wayans_and_the_woman_who_stole_him_fr om_his_wife.html

What's your thoughts on Keenan dating Brittany Daniels? The comments below it are just...wow. :o



I love how a lot of black women are saying that most of the black men are in jail or dead. :whatever: These women need to get out more or stay away from the thugs.

Soundwave
06-26-2007, 11:15 AM
I don't know what the circumstances are, so I don't feel it's my place to pass judgment. Reading the comments gave me a freakin' headache. Especially hypocrites who say it's fine if a black woman dates a white man in retaliation. That's bulls**t and I'm tired of black women pullin' that s**t! It's like my sister who hates black male/white female porn, but gets a lot of white male/black female porn (and the really low-budget kind, at that! Bleh!).

To say nothing of the fact that Keenan and his wife had already split before Britney even came into the picture. They married in 2001 for crying out loud, and separated two years later. But no one ever wants to take things like that into consideration. It's ALWAYS the man's fault, and he's always seen as an a$$hole, and the woman is ALWAYS the victim.

Sometimes marriages just don't work out. Some people grow apart, and the idea that people should just be complacent with a person they don't love anymore is utterly ridiculous.

As for the race issue, I know a lot of people want to jump to the whole status conclusion, and Keenan just wanted a white woman to be on his arm. Whether that's the case or not, none of us really know for sure. If so, he waited a pretty damn long time after his heyday to trade up. The reign of the Wayans has been over for a good decade (outside of the success of the first Scary Movie). Furthermore, I hate this delusion people have that black men "trading up" with white women when they get famous is so prevelant that couples like Will and Jada are a rarity. That's crap! If you look at the statistics for married black athletes, most of them are married to black women. Actors like Denzel, Samuel L. Jackson, Lawrence Fishburne, etc., married to black women.

And let's not front like most of us aren't on the "Hype's Hottest Women" Thread oggling beckys, and then coming here to say "Shame on you!"* to Keenan for hookin' up with one.

*You like that Shame reference, huh?!

It's a Low Down Dirty Shame how these people be actin'! :cwink:

Manic
06-26-2007, 11:23 AM
God, I wish I could find that Boondocks comic strip where Tom and Sara Dubois go over their past girlfriends and boyfriends. Sara finds out all of Tom's X's were white, and starts blaming men like him as to why people don't approve of interracial relationships, and why black women always give her dirty looks.

He countered by naming off her ex-boyfriends: Jamal, Malik, ect.

KenK
06-26-2007, 11:39 AM
A lot of people complain and say "when a black man get rich and famous, he'll turn to a white girl" but if he is with a white woman from the beginning before he's rich and famous, does that still make people complain?

That makes me think of Taye Diggs. 'Cause I think in his case, both him and his wife came up in the theater world together (they're original cast members from Rent), so I think that's just a matter of convenience given one's profession, which happens all the time in acting.

But it don't explain why they had him hookin' up with so many white chicks on Kevin Hill and Daybreak. But then I balance it out with his movie roles, where his love interests are usually black (and they're usually played by Sanaa Lathan).

Lightning Strykez!
06-26-2007, 11:40 AM
That makes me think of Taye Diggs. 'Cause I think in his case, both him and his wife came up in the theater world together (they're original cast members from Rent), so I think that's just a matter of convenience given one's profession, which happens all the time in acting.

But it don't explain why they had him hookin' up with so many white chicks on Kevin Hill and Daybreak. But then I balance it out with his movie roles, where his love interests are usually black (and they're usually played by Sanaa Lathan).


Many black women cannot stand Taye Diggs right now. That's why his shows kept dying.

terry78
06-26-2007, 11:44 AM
All the black actresses that have any merit are all for the most part married to white dudes as well. Sanaa, Thandie, Paula Patton, Halle, etc. Though Laurence Fishburne did snag Gina Torres.

PyroChamber
06-26-2007, 11:54 AM
All the black actresses that have any merit are all for the most part married to white dudes as well. Sanaa, Thandie, Paula Patton, Halle, etc. Though Laurence Fishburne did snag Gina Torres.Sanaa Lathan is married to a white guy? I never knew that. I always figured Halle is with her boyfriend because all the brothers she was with ****ed up their relationships with her.

You always hear about famous black men dating white women, yet you hardly ever hear about famous white actresses dating black men. Look at Ellen Pompeo from Grey's Anatomy, her fiancee is black.

Lightning Strykez!
06-26-2007, 11:55 AM
All the black actresses that have any merit are all for the most part married to white dudes as well. Sanaa, Thandie, Paula Patton, Halle, etc. Though Laurence Fishburne did snag Gina Torres.

That's not true in the case of Halle though. It's only been in the last year and a half that she started dating Gabriel. Her first two marriages were to Eric Benet and David Justice--both black men.

Lightning Strykez!
06-26-2007, 12:06 PM
Look at Ellen Pompeo from Grey's Anatomy, her fiancee is black.

...and scary. :csad:

http://www.bossip.com/uploaded_images/ellenpompeo-718853.jpg

























http://www.celebritystylewigs.com/shop/images/uploads/rupaul.jpg

Let me stop...:oldrazz:

Kmack
06-26-2007, 12:17 PM
http://www.celebritystylewigs.com/shop/images/uploads/rupaul.jpg

Let me stop...:oldrazz:

Looking FABULOUS;)

Lightning Strykez!
06-26-2007, 12:39 PM
Lmao!

jaguarr
06-26-2007, 12:40 PM
RuPaul is prettier than Coco. I feel dirty...

jag

SapphirePrima
06-26-2007, 12:52 PM
BET awards tonight ya.

KenK
06-26-2007, 01:03 PM
...and scary. :csad:

http://www.bossip.com/uploaded_images/ellenpompeo-718853.jpg



























http://www.celebritystylewigs.com/shop/images/uploads/rupaul.jpg

Let me stop...:oldrazz:

LMAO!!! That's dead wrong, yo!!

All the black actresses that have any merit are all for the most part married to white dudes as well. Sanaa, Thandie, Paula Patton, Halle, etc.

Angela Bassett's husband (Courtney B. Vance) is black, Jada's got Will, and like Lightning said, Halle's previous relationships have been with black men, so it's not like she's always been about white guys. And Paula Patton and Robin Thicke have apparently been together since they were young'ns, before either of their careers could play a factor.

chamber-music
06-26-2007, 01:33 PM
All the black actresses that have any merit are all for the most part married to white dudes as well. Sanaa, Thandie, Paula Patton, Halle, etc. Though Laurence Fishburne did snag Gina Torres.

atleast they ain't hooking up with Kevin Federline.

jimmy
06-26-2007, 01:59 PM
Who watches Comic-View on BET?

Warhammer
06-26-2007, 02:05 PM
Who watches Comic-View on BET?

I do, but there hasn't been a new episode in years. My favorite episode in Comic View history came on Friday night at 10. It was a "Classic Comicview" episode. They had Steve Brown, Tyler Craig, and 3 others. I feel blessed that out of anything I could've been doing that night, I just happened to catch it.

:up: :D

"Club Comicview" is great to watch, too.
When they just mash together clips of comedians that happen to be talking about the same thing, and they remix some of the stuff, it's hilarious.

Lightning Strykez!
06-27-2007, 10:03 AM
It's been awhile; it's time for another "This Or That" discussion...:up:

http://podcasts.portlandmercury.com/files/2006/10/goodtimes08.jpg
Good Times
Most Memorable Line(s): "Damn, damn, DAMN!!!!"
and
"It's Dyno-miiiiiiiiite!"

VS.

http://poplicks.com/images/sanford-and-son.jpg
Sanford & Son
Most Memorable Line(s): "I'm git you sucka!"
and
"Ya big dummy!"



Topic For Discussion: In your opinion, which blaxploitation comedy showcased "the struggle" and made a bigger impact on mainstream audiences? And which show did your parents seem to favor while you grew up?

Listen up folks:

I don't want to discuss Morg's mergings from yesterday here; They have no bearing on the round-table discussion we've been having in this thread for the last 2 months. This was never a real "lounge" anyway, so in accordance with our Administrator's directive, it has been renamed.

Let's get back to discussing the above please. Thanks.

chamber-music
06-27-2007, 10:08 AM
so the thread is reopened now?

jaguarr
06-27-2007, 10:08 AM
Dy-no-miiiiiiiite!!!!!! :up:

jag

terry78
06-27-2007, 10:09 AM
I think it was the only one that had merit. :p

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 10:10 AM
Yeah, can you go ahead and rename Wil's thread the Wonder Bread Experience and mine, the Hibachi Experience? :) :up:

Incrediblejeff
06-27-2007, 10:11 AM
Yay!Soul-glo is back...sort of.

Lightning Strykez!
06-27-2007, 10:14 AM
Yeah, can you go ahead and rename Wil's thread the Wonder Bread Experience and mine, the Hibachi Experience? :) :up:

No, I'm not renaming the spoof threads. :o

I don't know what you guys were trying to accomplish 2 months after the fact, but as this thread's first post indicated, from day one we had a more specific and serious focus for debate. And it is--and was--always intended to discuss ALL American minority cultures and their problems and experiences--not just African.

You guys just never came over. :csad:

chamber-music
06-27-2007, 10:16 AM
yay! nothing can destroy this thread not even fire..........or salt.

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 10:17 AM
No, I'm not renaming the spoof threads. :o

I don't know what you guys were trying to accomplish 2 months after the fact, but it's whatever. As this thread's first post indicated, from day one we had a more specific and serious focus for debate. And it and was always intended to discuss ALL American minority cultures and their problems and experiences--not just African.

You guys just never came over. :csad:
I don't know it sounded like a lark? Like having fun? :huh:

SHH has become what my Jr. High School evolved into during recess. First no tennis balls allowed because we fronted on a highway, then we brought in those koosh balls then those were taking away. And older posters wonder why there is a mass exodus from these boards at time. It's like they are trying to make it less fun. :down

Edit: If this thread is for everyone, why not call it the United Nations thread and not a name that's pretty much singles out only one race despite what the content is.

Lightning Strykez!
06-27-2007, 10:31 AM
I don't know it sounded like a lark? Like having fun? :huh:

SHH has become what my Jr. High School evolved into during recess. First no tennis balls allowed because we fronted on a highway, then we brought in those koosh balls then those were taking away. And older posters wonder why there is a mass exodus from these boards at time. It's like they are trying to make it less fun. :down

Edit: If this thread is for everyone, why not call it the United Nations thread and not a name that's pretty much singles out only one race despite what the content is.

Erz,

I dunno what to tell you; I am definitely not against "having fun" here. But the first post of this thread makes it clear. And we've been consistent in here with content.

Now, if you want to participate, fine. That'd be great. If you don't--again, that's fine; there are hundreds of other threads that may better suit your fancy.

By the way: Most people here don't even know what "Soul-GLO" is, so the thread's name is fine--and definitely not discriminatory. Only people looking for a problem would find one with that.

Now lets get back on topic shall we?

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 10:35 AM
If you say so. :dry:

jaguarr
06-27-2007, 10:40 AM
Ladies and gentlemen.....Mr. Stevie Wonder:

ZEiuLu59HXo

jag

Wilhelm-Scream
06-27-2007, 10:41 AM
OMG, what a load of HORSE-S***!

This thread is still open, but not the one for White People and Asians?!?!?


So, it's just WAY more serious and lofty and worthwhile to ogle pics of Halle Berry and talk about Re-Run from What's Happenin' and Nell Carter and "Whachoo Talkin' 'Bout Willis".........but We can't do that with people who don't have as much MELANIN in their skin?!?!?


What a LOAD! :o:o:o

chamber-music
06-27-2007, 10:44 AM
http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/bold-statements-1-0707-lg.jpg
"In Hollywood, it's normal to have white men with black women, but the reverse is too threatening. It's not an issue for me or the people I know, so everyone should f*****g get with it."
qoute from Naveen Andrews interview in this months Esquire magazine.

I think he had a point. I see Halle Berry and Kerry Washinton have a lot of white love intrests in her movies but I don't see Will Smith or Denzel Washington have any. Do you think there is a double standard in hollywood? Perhaps they are afraid of alienating some members whites or blacks who are less comfortable seeing a black man and white woman together.

terry78
06-27-2007, 10:45 AM
^Naveen breaking it down Lost style.

I do agree that most people are cool with a white guy dating women of color, but the reverse makes some a tad iffy. Don't really know why, but it just does. I will see a white dude hand in hand with a black girl and it may not be a huge ordeal, but a black dude with a white girl, more heads will turn. As if they're able to have their pick of the litter so to speak.

Lightning Strykez!
06-27-2007, 10:50 AM
OMG, what a load of HORSE-S***!

This thread is still open, but not the one for White People and Asians?!?!?


So, it's just WAY more serious and lofty and worthwhile to ogle pics of Halle Berry and talk about Re-Run from What's Happenin' and Nell Carter and "Whachoo Talkin' 'Bout Willis".........but We can't do that with people who don't have as much MELANIN in their skin?!?!?


What a LOAD! :o:o:o

You know what really takes the "fun" out of these boards that Erz just mentioned? When posters like you:

a.) Throw tantrums and cry bloody war over stupid stuff, or

b.) Go looking for ways to create conflict out of thin air.

You whined throughout the Deathmatches and you're doing it again now. Stop taking yourself so seriously. Either contribute to the discussion topics at hand or get off.

jaguarr
06-27-2007, 10:51 AM
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/KLN/SM118~No-Whining-Symbol-Posters.jpg

:oldrazz:

jag

terry78
06-27-2007, 10:52 AM
I would think after all the time people have spent on this board and gotten so close as to be almost family(almost), this type of thing shouldn't even matter.

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 10:55 AM
Honestly LS, you may say these are for everyone who wants to talk about minority topics, but the only topics I see here revolve around Black entertainment, politics and history. I don't see Hispanic, Asian or any other topics being discussed here.

Yes, I understand that you think these thread is for discussions on ALL minorities, but it's not percieved that way and that's probably why there isn't that much discussion on other ethnicities or why other non Black posters aren't automatically drawn here.

Just my impression.

And you know what? In my short lived Asian thread, I did find out about a few other posters who were Asian that I didn't know before. Also, we DID discuss Asian topics.

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 10:56 AM
I would think after all the time people have spent on this board and gotten so close as to be almost family(almost), this type of thing shouldn't even matter.
I like a lot of you guys here. I really do. But I would never call us an "almost" family.

Wilhelm-Scream
06-27-2007, 10:59 AM
You know what really takes the "fun" out of these boards that Erz just mentioned? When posters like you:

a.) Throw tantrums and cry bloody war over stupid stuff, or

b.) Go looking for ways to create conflict out of thin air.

You whined throughout the Deathmatches and you're doing it again now. Stop taking yourself so seriously. Either contribute to the discussion topics at hand or get off.

a.) I was having tons o' fun until some idiot closed my thread.
I didn't create any conflict. The person who closed it did.

b.) I don't feel like talking about Black Culture or Black concerns right now. I feel like talking about White culture and White concerns right now....and I wouldn't be here now, off-topic, if the racist who closed my White thread hadn't taken away our forum to focus on White issues.

How can I contribute to the discussion of White culture when the Man shut us down?

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 11:00 AM
Great now I'm oppressed. :(

Wilhelm-Scream
06-27-2007, 11:01 AM
Honestly LS, you may say these are for everyone who wants to talk about minority topics, but the only topics I see here revolve around Black entertainment, politics and history. I don't see Hispanic, Asian or any other topics being discussed here.No Erz, Asians are pretty much synonymous with "SOUL".
That's why it's the SOUL-GLO EXPERIENCE.....'cause of all the SOUL-GLO that Asians and Mexicans use.

:whatever:

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 11:03 AM
a.) I was having tons o' fun until some idiot closed my thread.
I didn't create any conflict. The person who closed it did.

b.) I don't feel like talking about Black Culture or Black concerns right now. I feel like talking about White culture and White concerns right now....and I wouldn't be here now, off-topic, if the racist who closed my White thread hadn't taken away our forum to focus on White issues.

How can I contribute to the discussion of White culture when the Man shut us down?

I'm afraid I have to side with Wil on this one. What makes this thread any better than the others? Because you've been around longer? That's ridiculous... You can't honestly sit there and preach that this thread is more serious because I know I've seen this thread, just like any other, get waaaaaay off topic before. To merge/delete the others is blatant favoritism and wholly unfair. :down

terry78
06-27-2007, 11:03 AM
Come on, let's not get this thing closed as quickly as it was re-opened.

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 11:04 AM
Come on, let's not get this thing closed as quickly as it was re-opened.

The others were closed for far less ridiculous reasons.

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 11:05 AM
Either everything's okay or none of it's okay.

Lightning Strykez!
06-27-2007, 11:07 AM
I would think after all the time people have spent on this board and gotten so close as to be almost family(almost), this type of thing shouldn't even matter.

Precisely my point.

This thread has been on the Community's front page consistently for TWO MONTHS and suddenly now it's become an issue? Tell me that is not someone just looking to create a problem for the sake of stirring the pot.

It's petty, and people need to get over themselves.


Honestly LS, you may say these are for everyone who wants to talk about minority topics, but the only topics I see here revolve around Black entertainment, politics and history. I don't see Hispanic, Asian or any other topics being discussed here.

Yes, I understand that you think these thread is for discussions on ALL minorities, but it's not percieved that way and that's probably why there isn't that much discussion on other ethnicities or why other non Black posters aren't automatically drawn here.

Erz, this is the last I'm going to speak on this topic because I really think it's pointless:

When this thread was launched, a PMed invitation went out to nearly 100 Hypesters that I personally knew enjoyed certain aspects of black culture. Those invited were of ALL colors and backgrounds, not just certain hypesters. Some responded, some did not. The majority of posters congregating here lately are of biracial and African American background, hence the conversations revolve around their interests. That's not a "bad" thing.

Now, if you want to get into other topics here pertinent to your life, bring them up--as you saw from the spin-off threads the rest of us have no problems talking about them too. In fact, 90% of those contributing to those spoof threads were mainstays from here anyway. :whatever:

Wilhelm-Scream
06-27-2007, 11:09 AM
Come on, let's not get this thing closed as quickly as it was re-opened.You can post and talk about pictures and comments on Black people/culture, Mexican people/culture, Asian people/culture here.....but wouldn't I be off topic if I posted pics of Dick Van Dyke and Mr. Rogers and and wanted to talk about the Lawrence Welk show?

Welp, that's racism. Where can I talk about White people and White issues if my people can't have their own thread too?
It's absurd.
I just have to shut up about David Bowie and The Beatles and Elvis and Mr. Belvedere and Tom Hanks.....'cause we're WHITE, so we don't get to speak?!?!

jaguarr
06-27-2007, 11:11 AM
You know, you guys didn't do yourselves any favors when people started openly planning a "lounge" thread for damn near every ethnic and religious group they could possibly dream up. Wil's thread was amusing. Erz's was an also-ran copycat of it (sorry, Erz). And then came all the plans for all those other threads, which probably caused Dew to say enough was enough and nip the whole thing in the bud before it really got out of hand and the whole first page was nothing but ethnic "lounge" threads (her stickied message on the topic said as much, too). If you want to be pissed off at someone, be pissed at the people who sullied your threads with all the talk about opening threads for all those different groups (to the point of it being ultra-silly) because I'll bet you dimes to dollars that's what caused Dew to take the stance she did on the subject. I realize you were trying to make a point with those threads about equality amongst all the races in these kinds of threads, but an obtuse approach will get you obtuse results as you can see.

jag

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 11:11 AM
It should be irrevelant that this thread has been around for 2 months?

Asian Appreiciation Month was last month, the Month of May, maybe I want to extend that appreciation all year round. But I can't because they will be merged by the goosestepping mods of ours.

And honestly while you may have pmed 100 or so posters of different ethnicities about this thread, that doesn't alert the other "not 100" or newcombers to look at this thread and think it's only for Black. And I never said this thread was a bad thing.

It just seems funny that that the thread made by a mod got to stay when the other ones even if they were 2 months later got merged. :down

Lackey
06-27-2007, 11:11 AM
If this thread is supposed to be multi-ethnic, shouldn't it be renamed? :confused:

Darthphere
06-27-2007, 11:12 AM
You know, you guys didn't do yourselves any favors when people started openly planning a "lounge" thread for damn near every ethnic and religious group they could possibly dream up. Wil's thread was amusing. Erz's was an also-ran copycat of it (sorry, Erz). And then came all the plans for all those other threads, which probably caused Dew to say enough was enough and nip the whole thing in the bud before it really got out of hand and the whole first page was nothing but ethnic "lounge" threads (her stickied message on the topic said as much, too). If you want to be pissed off at someone, be pissed at the people who sullied your threads with all the talk about opening threads for all those different groups (to the point of it being ultra-silly) because I'll bet you dimes to dollars that's what caused Dew to take the stance she did on the subject. I realize you were trying to make a point with those threads about equality amongst all the races in these kinds of threads, but an obtuse approach will get you obtuse results as you can see.

jag

Acute.

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 11:13 AM
Precisely my point.

This thread has been on the Community's front page consistently for TWO MONTHS and suddenly now it's become an issue? Tell me that is not someone just looking to create a problem for the sake of stirring the pot.

It's petty, and people need to get over themselves.

It didn't become an issue until someone merge/deleted the other threads.

If you would have let the other threads go longer than A DAY, they might have become just as "consistent" as this one. :whatever:

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 11:13 AM
If this thread is supposed to be multi-ethnic, shouldn't it be renamed? :confused:

By the way: Most people here don't even know what "Soul-GLO" is, so the thread's name is fine--and definitely not discriminatory. Only people looking for a problem would find one with that.

:whatever:

Darthphere
06-27-2007, 11:15 AM
How do I go about getting a jheri curl?

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 11:16 AM
You know, you guys didn't do yourselves any favors when people started openly planning a "lounge" thread for damn near every ethnic and religious group they could possibly dream up. Wil's thread was amusing. Erz's was an also-ran copycat of it (sorry, Erz). And then came all the plans for all those other threads, which probably caused Dew to say enough was enough and nip the whole thing in the bud before it really got out of hand and the whole first page was nothing but ethnic "lounge" threads (her stickied message on the topic said as much, too). If you want to be pissed off at someone, be pissed at the people who sullied your threads with all the talk about opening threads for all those different groups (to the point of it being ultra-silly) because I'll bet you dimes to dollars that's what caused Dew to take the stance she did on the subject. I realize you were trying to make a point with those threads about equality amongst all the races in these kinds of threads, but an obtuse approach will get you obtuse results as you can see.

jag
Regardless if my thread was created as a spoof, the fact that my thread stayed within topic should have allowed it to stay. If any erronious, Martian Thread or Aborigine Thread was closed, I'd understand that.

Darthphere
06-27-2007, 11:17 AM
Regardless if my thread was created as a spoof, the fact that my thread stayed within topic should have allowed it to stay. If any erronious, Martian Thread or Aborigine Thread was closed, I'd understand that.

You're saying Martians don't have rights?:cmad:

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 11:18 AM
Regardless if my thread was created as a spoof, the fact that my thread stayed within topic should have allowed it to stay. If any erronious, Martian Thread or Aborigine Thread was closed, I'd understand that.

I will not stand for any propagandist Martain FILTH in here! :racistmadface:

Wilhelm-Scream
06-27-2007, 11:18 AM
If this thread is supposed to be multi-ethnic, shouldn't it be renamed? :confused:

No, man.

This brotha keepin' it real in the hood, dawg!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Wilhelm-Scream/2-E.jpg




P.S., the "2 Months" thing is irrelevant. :huh:
That's WHY I made the White People Thread......I was perusing the excellent Soul-Glo LOUNGE.....and then I thought...."I'd like to do the same thing, but with White People. After ALL THIS TIME, I can't believe no one's made a place to do that yet! :huh:"

Darthphere
06-27-2007, 11:20 AM
On topic I guess. I went to the comic book store last week and there was these two thugged out black guys in there. You know, do-rag and all that jazz. First, it seems odd they were there and looked out of place. Second, they were loud as hell. A comic book store isn't a library but come on. And finally, one of them walked up to a Black Panther comic and uttered the phrase "Look, it's ***** panther" he then proceeded to LOL. I died a little that day.

jaguarr
06-27-2007, 11:20 AM
Where did you get that picture of boyscouT from, Wil?

jag

Hunter Rider
06-27-2007, 11:22 AM
I believe it was Dew that merged/deleted all the other threads not LS.

It just seems odd that the stance taken yesterday by posters wanting a thread for every race came after this place had been open for 2 months with no complaints

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 11:22 AM
You're saying Martians don't have rights?:cmad:

I will not stand for any propagandist Martain FILTH in here! :racistmadface:
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/characters/who-images/martian-manhunter.jpg

http://d94132.u23.simplenet.com/images/Mars/marvin_martian.gif

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/jbodine/Comedy%20II/photo7.jpg

They are taking our jobs!!! :cmad:

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 11:24 AM
I believe it was Dew that merged/deleted all the other threads not LS.

It just seems odd that the stance taken yesterday by posters wanting a thread for every race came after this place had been open for 2 months with no complaints

Yeah after 2 months, someone created a place for another race (if you expect the Soul-Glo Lounge to be a place for EVERY race then , :whatever:) and then it got deleted that very same day hence the issue of hypocracy.

Who cares if this place was started 2 years ago. It's not even relevant.

Darthphere
06-27-2007, 11:26 AM
Yeah after 2 months, someone created a place for another race (if you expect the Soul-Glo Lounge to be a place for EVERY race then , :whatever:) and then it got deleted that very same day hence the issue of hypocracy.

Who cares if this place was started 2 years ago. It's not even relevant.

That's like saying you can't start an MLB thread because the "NBA and occasionally other sports" thread has been opened for 2 months.

Hunter Rider
06-27-2007, 11:26 AM
Yeah after 2 months, someone created a place for another race (if you expect the Soul-Glo Lounge to be a place for EVERY race then , :whatever:) and then it got deleted that very same day hence the issue of hypocracy.

Who cares if this place was started 2 years ago. It's not even relevant.

That wasn't my point,it's clear Erz and Wil are upset and feel this thread is discriminatory,i am simply asking what has took so long for them to speak up

Lightning Strykez!
06-27-2007, 11:27 AM
It didn't become an issue until someone merge/deleted the other threads.

If you would have let the other threads go longer than A DAY, they might have become just as "consistent" as this one. :whatever:

I had nothing to do with the closings of the other threads. If you recall, I contributed positively to WS and Erz's. Their closure was Morg's deal. Take it up with him...not my issue. He probably didn't merge this one because this thread is already huge and it would have jacked up the Main Lounge's post count.

Now, seriously--that's enough guys. We are blowing a small thing way out of proportion. Some of you I've never even seen in this thread before, which speaks volumes. Let it go...jeez.

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 11:28 AM
Now, seriously--that's enough guys. We are blowing a small thing way out of proportion. Some of you I've never even seen in this thread before, which speaks volumes. This thread is not your problem.
You're right this thread is not our problem, but it's the only glaring oversight and that has made it the thread to discuss said issues, since Dew locked her little announcement.
That wasn't my point,it's clear Erz and Wil are upset and feel this thread is discriminatory,i am simply asking what has took so long for them to speak up
Um, I think they're more pissed at the fact that their threads that were created in this one's image were deleted for nothing more than being created by someone who's not a mod.

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 11:28 AM
That wasn't my point,it's clear Erz and Wil are upset and feel this thread is discriminatory,i am simply asking what has took so long for them to speak up
No the fact that our threads were closed, this was allowed to come back and stated that it's suppose to cover ALL races when the title and content kinda indicate otherwise.

Hunter Rider
06-27-2007, 11:32 AM
No the fact that our threads were closed, this was allowed to come back and stated that it's suppose to cover ALL races when the title and content kinda indicate otherwise.

So you guys genuinely wanted a White and Asian thread,you weren't just making a point about this thread with yours ?

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 11:33 AM
So you guys genuinely wanted a White and Asian thread,you weren't just making a point about this thread with yours ?
Well I am Asian. :huh:

Hunter Rider
06-27-2007, 11:34 AM
Well I am Asian. :huh:

Yes and I'm white,never felt i needed a White thread.

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 11:35 AM
Yes and I'm white,never felt i needed a White thread.

But that's you, and should you ever feel so inclined to discuss issues that come up within your particular race; where you going to post them? In the "Soul-Glo Lounge"?

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 11:35 AM
Yes and I'm white,never felt i needed a White thread.
So LS shouldn't even need this thread? :huh:

Darthphere
06-27-2007, 11:36 AM
I'm finding both sides of this issue to be equally ridiculous.

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 11:39 AM
I'm finding both sides of this issue to be equally ridiculous.
Balls in. Not one ball in. :huh:

And you're just made you never got your Siesta Thread. :csad:

Wilhelm-Scream
06-27-2007, 11:40 AM
You're right this thread is not our problem, but it's the only glaring oversight and that has made it the thread to discuss said issues, since Dew locked her little announcement.Right. If she hadn't locked it like a little autocrat, then I'd be telling her there how totally wrong it is to allow a Black Lounge, just because it's renamed ( :whatever: ), but not a White one.

AND, the TWO MONTHS IS IRRELEVANT.

Holly's sex education thread had over a thousand posts and had been around for weeks when they closed it.
AND, I could very well say the same thing about Soul-Glo....

"After all these years, why open a Black-Issues Thread NOW? WE've always had Black people here, and people interested in Black Culture."

I said, I was enjoying the Soul Glo lounge the other day, and thought, "Why isn't there a place like this for White people?"


Just remember, if you want try to make the B.E.T. argument (Black people need their own network. Everything else is dominated by Whites.), then you're full of bologna...'cause I CAN'T go into all the other threads, the Christianity thread, the Chris Benoit thread, etc. and just start talking about Pat Boone and Chris Issak because they're White.

:o
So wrong.:down

Darthphere
06-27-2007, 11:42 AM
Balls in. Not one ball in. :huh:

And you're just made you never got your Siesta Thread. :csad:

True. But one one side, you have the Pro-Soul-Glo lounge making such useless arguments as "We've been around 2 months and now you have a problem with it?" and on the other side you have the "We need a thread to represent our culture and the Soul-Glo lounge ain't cutting it with it's title clearly taken from black pop culture and a really funny movie"

It's all just funny to me. I mean, all you guys want is a simple name change for the thread right?:huh:

Lightning Strykez!
06-27-2007, 11:42 AM
But that's you, and should you ever feel so inclined to discuss issues that come up within your particular race; where you going to post them? In the "Soul-Glo Lounge"?

Look:

If people wanted to discuss something pertinent to the white culture they make a thread for it. Since the vast majority of the Hype is caucasian, generally those threads get plenty of support and stay on the front page.

In contrast, certain topics launched on minority issues are often pushed down due to lack of support, relatability or interest. Many wanted a place to extend the convos in Honey Vibe's "Black History" thread from February.

She and I talked with others and designed this thread to alleviate that problem. End of story.

Hunter Rider
06-27-2007, 11:42 AM
But that's you, and should you ever feel so inclined to discuss issues that come up within your particular race; where you going to post them? In the "Soul-Glo Lounge"?

I wouldn't post them i'd talk off line to friends and family or if i did talk about it on the net it would be someone i know quite well in PM's or on AIM..i come here to talk movies and have fun,the deeper stuff i usually prefer face to face

So LS shouldn't even need this thread? :huh:

He doesn't Need it,he simply thought it was a fun idea,you are missing my point,i was simply curious if you actually wanted these threads or if you were just using them to illustrate the point you felt this thread was wrong

fangrl06
06-27-2007, 11:43 AM
If one of the "race threads" were closed all of them should have been closed, but give Dew a break, she can't catch everything.

Hunter Rider
06-27-2007, 11:44 AM
Right. If she hadn't locked it like a little autocrat, then I'd be telling her there how totally wrong it is to allow a Black Lounge, just because it's renamed ( :whatever: ), but not a White one.


She has nothing to do with this being re opened or retitled

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 11:45 AM
True. But one one side, you have the Pro-Soul-Glo lounge making such useless arguments as "We've been around 2 months and now you have a problem with it?" and on the other side you have the "We need a thread to represent our culture and the Soul-Glo lounge ain't cutting it with it's title clearly taken from black pop culture and a really funny movie"

It's all just funny to me. I mean, all you guys want is a simple name change for the thread right?:huh:

I woke up this morning to find the White, Black and Asian threads moved to the Lounge.

Then a note from Dew saying "No more Lounge threads".

Fine, Dew was in a tizzy, lame whatever but the Soul-Glo Lounge comes back and who was the first post in it? It was LS.

That's kinda my problem.

Darthphere
06-27-2007, 11:46 AM
If people wanted to discuss something pertinent to the white culture they make a thread for it. Since the vast majority of the Hype is caucasian, generally those threads get plenty of support and stay on the front page.

Oh no.:csad:

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 11:46 AM
I woke up this morning to find the White, Black and Asian threads moved to the Lounge.

Then a note from Dew saying "No more Lounge threads".

Fine, Dew was in a tizzy, lame whatever but the Soul-Glo Lounge comes back and who was the first post in it? It was LS.

That's kinda my problem.

It's because it's no longer a "Lounge" and had been around for 2 whole months. :whatever: x Eleventy Bajillion

Darthphere
06-27-2007, 11:47 AM
I woke up this morning to find the White, Black and Asian threads moved to the Lounge.

Then a note from Dew saying "No more Lounge threads".

Fine, Dew was in a tizzy, lame whatever but the Soul-Glo Lounge comes back and who was the first post in it? It was LS.

That's kinda my problem.

Ah, I see.

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 11:47 AM
He doesn't Need it,he simply thought it was a fun idea,you are missing my point,i was simply curious if you actually wanted these threads or if you were just using them to illustrate the point you felt this thread was wrong
I never thought this thread was wrong but honestly, everytime I have come in here it is 99.99% discussion of Black issues regardless of who was in invited during this threads conception or what the 1st post says. Anyone with half a brain who would look at this thread title or look at the content would know what to discuss in this thread.

KenK
06-27-2007, 11:48 AM
Look:

If people wanted to discuss something pertinent to the white culture they make a thread for it. Since the vast majority of the Hype is caucasian, generally those threads get plenty of support and stay on the front page.

In contrast, certain topics launched on minority issues are often pushed down due to lack of support, relatability or interest. Many wanted a place to extend the convos in Honey Vibe's "Black History" thread from February.

She and I talked with others and designed this thread to alleviate that problem. End of story.

THANK YOU! I think if I had tried to get this sentiment across myself, I probably would have worded it badly, but you hit the nail on the head.

KenK
06-27-2007, 11:49 AM
I never thought this thread was wrong but honestly, everytime I have come in here it is 99.99% discussion of Black issues regardless of who was in invited during this threads conception or what the 1st post says. Anyone with half a brain who would look at this thread title or look at the content would know what to discuss in this thread.

Are you saying you've tried talking about Asian issues in this thread, and found your posts being ignored?

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 11:49 AM
Look:

If people wanted to discuss something pertinent to the white culture they make a thread for it. Since the vast majority of the Hype is caucasian, generally those threads get plenty of support and stay on the front page.

In contrast, certain topics launched on minority issues are often pushed down due to lack of support, relatability or interest. Many wanted a place to extend the convos in Honey Vibe's "Black History" thread from February.

She and I talked with others and designed this thread to alleviate that problem. End of story.

So you created this thread because the "minorities" don't have enough support on the boards nor do they care enough to keep their cultural issue-based threads on the first page? :dry:

Hunter Rider
06-27-2007, 11:49 AM
I never thought this thread was wrong but honestly, everytime I have come in here it is 99.99% discussion of Black issues regardless of who was in invited during this threads conception or what the 1st post says. Anyone with half a brain who would look at this thread title or look at the content would know what to discuss in this thread.

I'm not denying that,i was simply inquiring as to yours and others motives,did you A.like the idea of individual race threads or B.Create them to showcase what you thought was a bad idea in that it segregates.

Darthphere
06-27-2007, 11:49 AM
I really don't think the Hype is as white as a lot of people think.

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 11:52 AM
I'm not denying that,i was simply inquiring as to yours and others motives,did you A.like the idea of individual race threads or B.Create them to showcase what you thought was a bad idea in that it segregates.

I, for one, think that if THIS thread exists, then the others have every right to be around as well. If they are a fad and falter, they will fade away like countless threads before them that were infinitely more asinine that WEREN'T removed.

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 11:53 AM
Are you saying you've tried talking about Asian issues in this thread, and found your posts being ignored?
I'll be honest I haven't and I will even go the extra yard and say I'd probably wouldn't be ignored but probably because of who I am. *Vain*

However, how would other "Asians" who just see "Soul-Glo" in the title know what I was discussing related to them?

Wilhelm-Scream
06-27-2007, 11:53 AM
I'm not denying that,i was simply inquiring as to yours and others motives,did you A.like the idea of individual race threads or B.Create them to showcase what you thought was a bad idea in that it segregates.

*AHEM*

If people wanted to discuss something pertinent to the white culture they make a thread for it. Since the vast majority of the Hype is caucasian, generally those threads get plenty of support and stay on the front page.
if you want try to make the B.E.T. argument (Black people need their own network. Everything else is dominated by Whites.), then you're full of bologna...'cause I CAN'T go into all the other threads, the Christianity thread, the Chris Benoit thread, etc. and just start talking about Pat Boone and Chris Issak because they're White.
i was simply curious if you actually wanted these threads or if you were just using them to illustrate the point you felt this thread was wrong
That's WHY I made the White People Thread......I was perusing the excellent Soul-Glo LOUNGE.....and then I thought...."I'd like to do the same thing, but with White People. After ALL THIS TIME, I can't believe no one's made a place to do that yet!:huh:"

Lightning Strykez!
06-27-2007, 11:54 AM
If one of the "race threads" were closed all of them should have been closed, but give Dew a break, she can't catch everything.

Morg closed the threads--including this one.


So you created this thread because the "minorities" don't have enough support on the boards nor do they care enough to keep their cultural issue-based threads on the first page?

:whatever:

You are missing my point. And you know it.

I'm done explaining this. Some of you are just looking for a conflict and I am not feeding it. I understand your frustrations over the closed threads, but it was not my decision. I reopened this one because it was already established and not part of the "problem" from yesterday.


To be fair, I already brought it up in the Mod's lounge for discussion this morning. As a staff we will deliberate it further there once everyone comes on-line. That's it for now.

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 11:54 AM
I'm not denying that,i was simply inquiring as to yours and others motives,did you A.like the idea of individual race threads or B.Create them to showcase what you thought was a bad idea in that it segregates.
I've stated that I never thought this thread was a bad idea.

KenK
06-27-2007, 11:55 AM
So you created this thread because the "minorities" don't have enough support on the boards nor do they care enough to keep their cultural issue-based threads on the first page? :dry:

I think it's more an issue of having one place to discuss a wide variety of topics. I don't think it's fair to imply that no one cares enough to keep cultural-based threads on the first page.

Hunter Rider
06-27-2007, 11:55 AM
*AHEM*

Ok so you wanted to talk whiteness,got it,now i am just waiting for Erz idea was the same

Lackey
06-27-2007, 11:56 AM
Some of you I've never even seen in this thread before, which speaks volumes.

What exactly do you mean by that? :huh:

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 11:56 AM
:whatever:

You are missing my point. And you know it.

I'm done explaining this. Some of you are just looking for a conflict and I am not feeding it.

No, I'm not "missing" anything. I am illustrating my reaction to the response of a situation that was deemed an "issue" that evolved into a ridiculous double-standard. If anyone is missing anyone's points here it's you. What makes this thread more valid than the others?

Hunter Rider
06-27-2007, 11:56 AM
I've stated that I never thought this thread was a bad idea.

Hence you think the idea of a bunch of segregated threads is a good idea ?

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 11:56 AM
Morg closed the threads--including this one.



:whatever:

You are missing my point. And you know it.

I'm done explaining this. Some of you are just looking for a conflict and I am not feeding it.
Or you can't go against the other mods?

Morg closed the other threads.

Dew made the sticky no more Lounge threads.

You ressurrected the thread you created, changing the title stating it's been here for 2 months and no one complained?

So if my thread was up longer than a day, would that have received the same treatment?

Darthphere
06-27-2007, 11:57 AM
I think it's more an issue of having one place to discuss a wide variety of topics. I don't think it's fair to imply that no one cares enough to keep cultural-based threads on the first page.

But that's exactly what LS did in his post. Knowing LS, I know for a fact he didn't mean for it to come off that way however.

KenK
06-27-2007, 11:57 AM
I'll be honest I haven't and I will even go the extra yard and say I'd probably wouldn't be ignored but probably because of who I am. *Vain*

However, how would other "Asians" who just see "Soul-Glo" in the title know what I was discussing related to them?

Despite being black and getting the cultural reference of the title, I knew nothing of what the thread was supposed to be about.

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 11:58 AM
Hence you think the idea of a bunch of segregated threads is a good idea ?
Please Hunter.

My thread in by no means was an "Asian" only thread. It was a celebration and appreciation of all things Asian.

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 11:58 AM
Despite being black and getting the cultural reference of the title, I knew nothing of what the thread was supposed to be about.
But you figured it had to do with something black?

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 11:58 AM
I think it's more an issue of having one place to discuss a wide variety of topics. I don't think it's fair to imply that no one cares enough to keep cultural-based threads on the first page.

In contrast, certain topics launched on minority issues are often pushed down due to lack of support, relatability or interest. Many wanted a place to extend the convos in Honey Vibe's "Black History" thread from February.

She and I talked with others and designed this thread to alleviate that problem. End of story.

:dry:

Wilhelm-Scream
06-27-2007, 11:59 AM
Some of you are just looking for a conflict and I am not feeding it.Um, dude. Stop saying that, 'cause you're wrong.
If the White People thread hadn't been closed, there is no WAY I'd be here b****ing right now.

I did not "create any conflict", nor was I trying to.
I saw your thread and thought the same concept, but done with White people, would be fun. Simple as that.

If the unfair and totally inappropriate decision to close the White thread, while allowing the Black thread, hadn't been made, I'd've been posting pics of Regis Philbin and Johnny Carson RIGHT NOW......NO CONFLICT desired or cultivated, at all. :o

KenK
06-27-2007, 12:01 PM
But you figured it had to do with something black?

Regardless, I never found it to be exclusionary, and can even remember bringing up other minorities myself, and other topics evolved from that. Never did I feel like I couldn't talk about minorities outside of blacks.

Strange
06-27-2007, 12:02 PM
Can't we all just get along?

http://www.videodetective.com/photos/004/000169_27.jpg

Hunter Rider
06-27-2007, 12:03 PM
Please Hunter.

My thread in by no means was an "Asian" only thread. It was a celebration and appreciation of all things Asian.

I'm not having a go i am trying to understand where all this need for individual culture threads has sprung from and asked the questions i felt would give me the answers

As for this situation,Dew closed all of them due to the fact it was as with most things here snowballing...she hasn't done anything since that call last night

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 12:04 PM
Regardless,
So you did.


I never found it to be exclusionary, and can even remember bringing up other minorities myself, and other topics evolved from that. Never did I feel like I couldn't talk about minorities outside of blacks.
And I never said you couldn't but it's like wanting to talk about Baseball, would you post in the NBA thread or the MLB thread. Hmm...... :huh:

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 12:06 PM
I'm not having a go i am trying to understand where all this need for individual culture threads has sprung from and asked the questions i felt would give me the answers

As for this situation,Dew closed all of them due to the fact it was as with most things here snowballing...she hasn't done anything since that call last night
Well I think LS said Morg closed them. Dew just followed up with the sticky.

And I'm sure Morg did a very thorough job of inspecting each thread making sure of it's content before closing them both. :whatever:

Darthphere
06-27-2007, 12:06 PM
So you did.


And I never said you couldn't but it's like wanting to talk about Baseball, would you post in the NBA thread or the MLB thread. Hmm...... :huh:

Why are you stealing my analogy? :cmad:

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 12:07 PM
Well I think LS said Morg closed them. Dew just followed up with the sticky.

And I'm sure Morg did a very thorough job of inspecting each thread making sure of it's content before closing them both. :whatever:

Isn't he blind though? :huh:

... wait. :dry:

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 12:07 PM
Why are you stealing my analogy? :cmad:
Next time I'll credit you in a footnote.

Lightning Strykez!
06-27-2007, 12:07 PM
I did not "create any conflict", nor was I trying to.
I saw your thread and thought the same concept, but done with White people, would be fun. Simple as that.

And it was fun. I even contributed to it. But merges cannot be undone, so what do you want me to do?


No, I'm not "missing" anything. I am illustrating my reaction to the response of a situation that was deemed an "issue" that evolved into a ridiculous double-standard. If anyone is missing anyone's points here it's you. What makes this thread more valid than the others?

The very fact that our staff allowed this thread to remain for so long proves that it was valid. This thread has never been a hot spot for flaming or anything grossly disrespectful. Reread Dew's sticky again. "Others" ruined this situation--this thread is NOT the problem. Hence its validity is unchanged.

Morg's mergings cannot be undone--none of us have the power to do that. This thread is the original and was left remaining. Therefore, I reinstated its activity. This is not to say it's "better" than the others, it's just the original and I got a lot of complaints asking for its return.

Does that answer your question?

Hunter Rider
06-27-2007, 12:10 PM
Well I think LS said Morg closed them. Dew just followed up with the sticky.

And I'm sure Morg did a very thorough job of inspecting each thread making sure of it's content before closing them both. :whatever:

Is it true that a thread for cucumbers and martians and so forth were made ?

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 12:10 PM
The very fact that our staff allowed this thread to remain for so long proves that it was valid. Reread Dew's sticky again. "Others" ruined this situation--this thread is NOT the problem. Hence its validity is unchanged.

Morg's mergings cannot be undone--none of us have the power to do that. This thread is the original and was left remaining. Therefore, I reinstated it. Does that answer your question?
So your thread did NOT get merged with the others... hmm, wonder why?

Nobody is accusing YOUR thread of being the problem, it just so happens that this is the only place to address the situation. You're not being victimized here.

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 12:11 PM
Is it true that a thread for cucumbers and martians and so forth were made ?

... filthy Martains... :cmad:

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 12:11 PM
I made a Martian joke if that's what you were referring to but I haven't been online since like 10 pm last night the threads could have been merged by then but honestly I wasn't looking for them. So I don't know.

Wilhelm-Scream
06-27-2007, 12:12 PM
Look, I actually do hate to see the fine Soul Glo area sullied with this, which is why it's so freaking lame when mods won't allow any comment or deliberation when they come down with the iron fist of locking.

So I'm done, in closing, I'll just say...Racism, Abuse of Power, Disorganized, Capricious and Inapporpriate moderation......the Hype is as retarded as ever.

I love it, like you love your little obnoxious, retarded brother who screams and craps his pants all day....."That's our little Hype...totally unfair and embarrassingly lame, God love it."

:o


Just go about your fun here, talking about Kung Fu movies, Enchiladas and Richard Roundtree.
Since I'm White, and we "own" the whole rest of the front page, I'll just go post pictures of Mary Tyler Moore and talk about Journey and the Eagles and Richard Nixon in ALL the other threads BUT this one.

*Problem Solved*.....Right?

:o

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 12:13 PM
Yeah I'm sorry we had a fight in the middle of your Black Panther Party. :(

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 12:15 PM
Yeah I'm sorry we had a fight in the middle of your Black Panter Party. :(

http://www.10000takes.com/ForrestGumpRunning.jpg

We'll go ahead and run off now...

Mee
06-27-2007, 12:17 PM
Always bringin the white man down. :(

Warhammer
06-27-2007, 12:17 PM
Guys, this is getting ridiculous. I'm going to try to make this sound as unbiased as I can (Though I know it won't be the case for some).

There really is no answer for this except (and from a white person's P.O.V., this may sound naive and racist) that white people are a majority. Even some can (I hate it when people say this, but some may see it this way) say that the majority of things talked about are "white issues." So many issues in the world have to do with a white person, so a plethora of things that we already talk about involve white people in one way or another. That can be true to some extent because whenever we have a thread that's about a rapper, Tiger Woods, gang violence, Godzilla, Mexican food, it is considered outside of the norm and unofficially labeled as "black", and/or so forth. Hell, things shouldn't be labeled with race cards, but they always end up being that. For example, I love movies. I like Forrest Gump. Is that (stupidly) considered a "white movie" against the likes of Friday, which many people stupidly call a "black movie"? (I've gotten into an argument about that before.)

Let's face it, Blacks, Asians/Pacific Islanders, Latinos, Native Americans, and Middle Eastern people are all the minority. Yes, there IS a double standard in this world regarding to white people vs. all other minorities. Is it unfair, yes it damn well is, but just like it's ok for a woman to wear guy's clothes, but not vice-versa, the racial double standard is there. You can complain all you want how it's not fair, but that double standard will always exist. It's can be considered merely because if you compare the number of white people (Yes, I'm talking about white Americans, Italians, Germans, Russians, and all that. Hell, even the number of white people in America trumps all over minorities.) in the world to the number of a certain minority, the number for the former trumps the latter. There is a Soul GLO thread here. Before the other day, nobody ******ed about it being here, nobody complained about it, and most people didn't even care that it existed until the Community ended up looking like the United Nations. The way I see it, maybe we should just negate everything that happened in the past few days (all jokes aside), and "restore" the Community to the way it was. It only took a couple of threads, jokes becoming serious issues, and people calling things "unfair" that all of this trouble started in the first place.

...until a couple of days ago, nobody gave a flying shyit about the Soul GLO thread. We have better things to talk about rather than debating over why the other threads were around and aren't around now. You all need to get over yourselves. Mods, do what you please...

Hunter Rider
06-27-2007, 12:18 PM
I made a Martian joke if that's what you were referring to but I haven't been online since like 10 pm last night the threads could have been merged by then but honestly I wasn't looking for them. So I don't know.

From the way it reads it seems that a whole bunch of spoof lounges popped up and thus Dew and Morg scooped up all lounges and dumped them in the main one and then closed this one

Hunter Rider
06-27-2007, 12:20 PM
So I'm done, in closing, I'll just say...Racism, Abuse of Power, Disorganized, Capricious and Inapporpriate moderation......the Hype is as retarded as ever.



And this is all reversed if Dew had left all the lounges closed and directed every one to use the main multi cultural lounge ?

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 12:21 PM
And this is all reversed if Dew had left all the lounges closed and directed every one to use the main multi cultural lounge ?

I'm all for that. :up: Or... I don't know, merge them ALL like she said she did, and not just merge all the ones not created by mods.

Lightning Strykez!
06-27-2007, 12:23 PM
So your thread did NOT get merged with the others... hmm, wonder why?

Nobody is accusing YOUR thread of being the problem, it just so happens that this is the only place to address the situation. You're not being victimized here.

I would guess that it wasn't merged because it's so huge. We're heading towards 3,000 posts here. However, we all know that the Hype Lounge thread is kept deliberately smaller these days. Perhaps Morg didn't want to tip its post count--after all that new Lounge version is new. That's just my theory.

Dew said she didn't want multiple Lounges and I can respect her view on the matter. That's why I changed the title to be a bit more appropriate to the content. Besides, we only decided on including "Lounge" since the the Hype and Gamma lounges were also active at the time.



Look, I actually do hate to see the fine Soul Glo area sullied with this, which is why it's so freaking lame when mods won't allow any comment or deliberation when they come down with the iron fist of locking.

So I'm done, in closing, I'll just say...Racism, Abuse of Power, Disorganized, Capricious and Inapporpriate moderation......the Hype is as retarded as ever.


I seriously doubt Morg was racist against your Delightsome thread. :csad:

I never saw the other Martian spin-off threads or whatever--but I supported yours and Erz's. You guys know we were having fun too. So what happened after I logged off is beyond me.

Like I said, as a staff we will discuss it. If the consensus is to close this place down, I have no problem doing that. But I will say here and now that if we do it, it would be a shame. This thread proved that discussion on racial politics and issues can be discussed in a mature, civil manner--and even with comradiere.

Closing it would be a disservice IMO.

Mee
06-27-2007, 12:25 PM
Haha, there was a Martian one?



What Nazi closed that? :(

LexLuthor
06-27-2007, 12:26 PM
Listen up folks:

I don't want to discuss Morg's mergings from yesterday here; They have no bearing on the round-table discussion we've been having in this thread for the last 2 months. This was never a real "lounge" anyway, so in accordance with our Administrator's directive, it has been renamed.

Let's get back to discussing the above please. Thanks.

DAMN RIGHT! IT BETTER BE BACK OPEN! :cmad: I just thought shutting it down was a Homeland Security-type tactic. This thread is needed for those who have background of "color" or those who appreciate it. This is a definite thread I can relate to and feel at home vs. the other threads...kind of like my college experience...predominantly white, there were a few hundred black folk on campus and we all, for the most part, hung tough even after we joined different fraternities and sororities. This mantra kept playing in my head "EVERY TIME A BRUTHA GETS SOMETHING, THE MAN HAS TO COME AND SHUT HIM DOWN!" :cmad: :woot: :oldrazz: It reminded me of my college experience of how it was a small scale version of America (when it came to ethnic percentages) and this one time where the black community felt left out of the Campus block party and we protested. Things were a little better after that. I'm glad that the thread is back up and running and I got a place I can call my hangout/frat house/barbershop/Cheers. :hyper:

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 12:26 PM
Then you can blame your mod kinfolk for that instead of carefully weeding out the bogus threads from the legit threads, and just doing a blanket merging of all of them. :whatever:

Darthphere
06-27-2007, 12:26 PM
DAMN RIGHT! IT BETTER BE BACK OPEN! :cmad: I just thought shutting it down was a Homeland Security-type tactic. This thread is needed for those who have background of "color" or those who appreciate it. This is a definite thread I can relate to and feel at home vs. the other threads...kind of like my college experience...predominantly white, there were a few hundred black folk on campus and we all, for the most part, hung tough even after we joined different fraternities and sororities. This mantra kept playing in my head "EVERY TIME A BRUTHA GETS SOMETHING, THE MAN HAS TO COME AND SHUT HIM DOWN!" :cmad: It reminded me of my college experience of how it was a small scale version of America (when it came to ethnic percentages) and this one time where the black community felt left out of the Campus block party and we protested. Things were a little better after that. I'm glad that the thread is back up and running and I got a place I can call my hangout/frat house/barbershop/Cheers. :hyper:

Case closed.:o :huh: :dry:

Hunter Rider
06-27-2007, 12:29 PM
I'm all for that. :up: Or... I don't know, merge them ALL like she said she did, and not just merge all the ones not created by mods.

The reason they weren't all merged in was that this one is to big

Then you can blame your mod kinfolk for that instead of carefully weeding out the bogus threads from the legit threads, and just doing a blanket merging of all of them. :whatever:

kinfolk ? *sigh* it's not a divide having a red name y'know,i am still a poster and 95% of the time post as just that....I am in agreement that something has to be done and will be done,truth is i'd say go and make your Asian and white threads and lets get back to business but i can't go against Dew

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 12:30 PM
Then you can blame your mod kinfolk for that instead of carefully weeding out the bogus threads from the legit threads, and just doing a blanket merging of all of them. :whatever:

EXCEPT this one.

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 12:34 PM
EXCEPT this one.
Well it was too big...adding 93 pages to that SHH Lounge would have only kicked up the posts to 12,000 and what it'd be closed at 30,000 or 50,000? Yeah it was too big too merge. :whatever:

LexLuthor
06-27-2007, 12:34 PM
^Naveen breaking it down Lost style.

I do agree that most people are cool with a white guy dating women of color, but the reverse makes some a tad iffy. Don't really know why, but it just does. I will see a white dude hand in hand with a black girl and it may not be a huge ordeal, but a black dude with a white girl, more heads will turn. As if they're able to have their pick of the litter so to speak.

Well that goes back to slave times IMHO. Masters were always sleeping with the black slave girls/women for centuries, mostly raping, and event at times killing. The master's, by society standards back then, had that right. So, it was sort of ingrained that it was ok on a subconscious level in society. It has been conditioned somewhat that white men and black women is nothing new and ok because it was Master's right. Now, when a white woman was caught with a black man back in the dayzzz, he was killed, lynched, burned to death, tortured, castrated, etc. because a white women was white men's property, pure and Christian. The black man was the nonhuman/dirty. So, a brother with a white woman, back then, was seen as not holy, i.e. taboo. That way of thinking is still somewhat ingrained in good ole white bread America today.

Hunter Rider
06-27-2007, 12:35 PM
Well it was too big...adding 93 pages to that SHH Lounge would have only kicked up the posts to 12,000 and what it'd be closed at 30,000 or 50,000? Yeah it was too big too merge. :whatever:

Not to big in that way,to big in that all of the convos would have been a total mess given how huge both lounges are

Lightning Strykez!
06-27-2007, 12:36 PM
Then you can blame your mod kinfolk for that instead of carefully weeding out the bogus threads from the legit threads, and just doing a blanket merging of all of them. :whatever:

I agree with you. If I'd had a problem with your threads I would've closed them myself but I didn't think that would be fair. I only close stuff when innappropriate behavior, flaming or other crap is taking place. I found none of that going on when I was online, so I let them go. Plus, I found yours and Wil's utterly delightsome. :cwink:

However if the threads descended into stupidity after I logged off, then obviously other Mods have to take action. I can't speak on it because I didn't see it. Apparently Morg felt differently and he has the authority to act on his feelings...just like I am acting on mine. What's not fair is that Hunter and I are the only ones managing the aftermath of those decisions with you guys this morning. :dry:

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 12:37 PM
Not to big in that way,to big in that all of the convos would have been a total mess given how huge both lounges are

So instead of merging it, it just got closed/deleted. Therefore HALTING all conversations in this thread?

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 12:37 PM
Not to big in that way,to big in that all of the convos would have been a total mess given how huge both lounges are

Yeah cause THAT would totally mess up the current convos in the Lounge.

Hey.
Hi.
How's everyone doing?
Hi.
Fine.
Good.
You?

:down

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 12:38 PM
I agree with you. If I'd had a problem with your threads I would've closed them myself but I didn't think that would be fair. I only close stuff when innappropriate behavior, flaming or other crap is taking place. I found none of that there, so I let them go. Plus, I found yours and Wil's utterly delightsome. :cwink:

But apparently Morg felt differently and he has the authority to act on his feelings...just like I am acting on mine. What's not fair is that Hunter and I are the only ones managing the aftermath of those decisions with you guys this morning. :dry:
Morg isn't one for confrontation. :o

But I do appreciate you agreeing with me.

Lackey
06-27-2007, 12:39 PM
In conclusion:

Morg is an idiot.

Hunter Rider
06-27-2007, 12:39 PM
So instead of merging it, it just got closed/deleted. Therefore HALTING all conversations in this thread?

Yes it was closed

Yeah cause THAT would totally mess up the current convos in the Lounge.

Hey.
Hi.
How's everyone doing?
Hi.
Fine.
Good.
You?

:down

Jesus Erz.....The point was it would be messy so this was closed,it is in effect the same ruling

Assassin
06-27-2007, 12:43 PM
I'm all for that. :up: Or... I don't know, merge them ALL like she said she did, and not just merge all the ones not created by mods.

Ohh Snap!

John has a point there

Assassin
06-27-2007, 12:45 PM
In conclusion:

Morg is an idiot.

:wow:

:heart:

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 12:49 PM
Yes it was closed

Jesus Erz.....The point was it would be messy so this was closed,it is in effect the same ruling

... and then "magically" reopened.

PWN3R
06-27-2007, 12:51 PM
In conclusion:

Morg is an idiot.

It's quite funny. Whenever controversy happens on the Hype, Morg's name is everywhere. People are constantly disagreeing with him, constantly saying he abuses his power. Yet he's still a mod. :sadness:


:heart:

Hunter Rider
06-27-2007, 12:52 PM
... and then "magically" reopened.

Not magically.LS saw it sitting there unmerged and felt that Morg should have told him what was gonna happen before closing it,basically it never got an airing so he re opened it.

LexLuthor
06-27-2007, 12:52 PM
Honestly LS, you may say these are for everyone who wants to talk about minority topics, but the only topics I see here revolve around Black entertainment, politics and history. I don't see Hispanic, Asian or any other topics being discussed here.

Yes, I understand that you think these thread is for discussions on ALL minorities, but it's not percieved that way and that's probably why there isn't that much discussion on other ethnicities or why other non Black posters aren't automatically drawn here.

Just my impression.

And you know what? In my short lived Asian thread, I did find out about a few other posters who were Asian that I didn't know before. Also, we DID discuss Asian topics.

Here is my thing Erz, when I've visited different boards on SHH and when the topic of a black movie, or sometimes director comes up, all I saw, for the most part, was negativity. Example, when Stomp The Yard came out, all I read was negative BS about another dance movie and how ghetto and this and that. :whatever: I was somewhat offended because I myself am apart of a black fraternity and have "stepped"/performed in many shows with what some posters called "dancing". But then, I came to the understanding that it was just ignorance talking. I typed out this long explanation on the history of stepping, how it originated from Africa, the spirit/ritual/bonding behind it, how it kept black men in the military when racism was high decades ago together, grounded, and focused. But, unfortunately, my computer was acting up and I got logged off. So, I just never responded and ignored it. It just reminds me of the ignorance that I see on here sometimes. But here, I can talk amongst brothers/sisters/allies who can relate to me and in return relate to them, rather it be music, politics, tv shows, history, health, or whatever. Sure, we joke about certain things and talk about old shows. That's how bonds are created when we have certain things in common. From that bond, we can move forward with serious topics, or humorous ones. I'm sure we all have jobs and important things in our lives that take precedence. Here, we can kick back, have a few laughs and talk about the good ole times if need be, or what the future may bring.
Here, I can come and talk about how Tim Story did an ok job on FF and not how he would have made it ghetto. In short, I think the Soul-Glo experience is needed. I'm sure I'll get a couple of :whatever: :whatever: from some posters on this site. Again, that just goes to show you that they don't or wouldn't understand.
Annnd, if you feel that an Asian Experience Haven is needed, more power to you. I'll cosign on it. Just be sure to talk about where the first Asian dynasty came from. :cwink:

Assassin
06-27-2007, 12:53 PM
Morg is a racist. Morg hates blacks, I heard him say the N word once too!

ohh noes!

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 12:53 PM
Not magically.LS saw it sitting there unmerged and felt that Morg should have told him what was gonna happen before closing it,basically it never got an airing so he re opened it.

So Morg should only consult with thread starters if they're Mods?

Darthphere
06-27-2007, 12:54 PM
It's quite funny. Whenever controversy happens on the Hype, Morg's name is everywhere. People are constantly disagreeing with him, constantly saying he abuses his power. Yet he's still a mod. :sadness:


:heart:

Yeah, I don't get it.

Hunter Rider
06-27-2007, 12:56 PM
So Morg should only consult with thread starters if they're Mods?

I never said that,usually when closing a thread,especially a one with a lot of activity,a reason is given to the starter no matter whether they have been here 4 years or 4 months,being a mod has nothing to do with it.

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 12:57 PM
Here is my thing Erz, when I've visited different boards on SHH and when the topic of a black movie, or sometimes director comes up, all I saw, for the most part, was negativity. Example, when Stomp The Yard came out, all I read was negative BS about another dance movie and how ghetto and this and that. :whatever: I was somewhat offended because I myself am apart of a black fraternity and have "stepped"/performed in many shows with what some posters called "dancing". But then, I came to the understanding that it was just ignorance talking. I typed out this long explanation on the history of stepping, how it originated from Africa, the spirit/ritual/bonding behind it, how it kept black men in the military when racism was high decades ago together, grounded, and focused. But, unfortunately, my computer was acting up and I got logged off. So, I just never responded and ignored it. It just reminds me of the ignorance that I see on here sometimes. But here, I can talk amongst brothers/sisters/allies who can relate to me and in return relate to them, rather it be music, politics, tv shows, history, health, or whatever. Sure, we joke about certain things and talk about old shows. That's how bonds are created when we have certain things in common. From that bond, we can move forward with serious topics, or humorous ones. I'm sure we all have jobs and important things in our lives that take precedence. Here, we can kick back, have a few laughs and talk about the good ole times if need be, or what the future may bring.
Here, I can come and talk about how Tim Story did an ok job on FF and not how he would have made it ghetto. In short, I think the Soul-Glo experience is needed. I'm sure I'll get a couple of :whatever: :whatever: from some posters on this site. Again, that just goes to show you that they don't or wouldn't understand.
Annnd, if you feel that an Asian Experience Haven is needed, more power to you. I'll cosign on it. Just be sure to talk about where the first Asian dynasty came from. :cwink:
3 Sovereigns and 5 Emperors?

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 01:00 PM
Yeah, I don't get it.
Be online all the time and give one sided gifts to mods. :up:

Lightning Strykez!
06-27-2007, 01:00 PM
Ohh Snap!

John has a point there

No he doesn't (no offense Brutal). Morg and I are equals here. The fact remains he still closed my **** down too. And I'm a mod.

If the reports I'm getting on PM are correct, the REAL problem erupted when nonsensical threads were launched after Wil's and Erz's were born. At that point it just became a runaway train. I would've handled things a bit differently (i.e. just closing the dumb ones).

I'll be honest with you guys: When Wil and Erz started their threads at first I was like, "Oh great, they're biting off our idea here". But then I checked them out, found them to be funny and I started to contribute humorous things to them in the spirit of the threads. It wasn't like "Omigod, another Race thread--close them!" I didn't feel "threatened" in that way, and no one on this thread did either.

That's why I was pissed that this one was shut. It didn't make any sense. I'm like, "Where is the frigging conflict here that warranted that?"

So Morg should only consult with thread starters if they're Mods?

I can answer that: No. He sure didn't talk to me about it. But I didn't agree with the decision and due to the huge mergings I couldn't even find the other threads to examine what went wrong.

So since there was no evidence and no explanation I brought this one back.

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 01:00 PM
I never said that,usually when closing a thread,especially a one with a lot of activity,a reason is given to the starter no matter whether they have been here 4 years or 4 months,being a mod has nothing to do with it.

Coincidence?

GunBlade
06-27-2007, 01:02 PM
3 Sovereigns and 5 Emperors?
Great edit.

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 01:03 PM
Great edit.
:heart:

I thought he meant Imperial Dynasty. :o

Hunter Rider
06-27-2007, 01:05 PM
Coincidence?

No,what we have here is a total **** up, a bunch of merges,a re-opening and then this massive discussion brought about b/c we are all on separately and haven't been able to talk this through......hell im here and i never mod in community.

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 01:06 PM
No he doesn't (no offense Brutal).
I'm taking no offense to any of this. I just disapprove of what looks to be a double standard.
Morg and I are equals here. The fact remains he still closed my **** down too. And I'm a mod.
Yes but, as a Mod, you have the power to revive your lost thread while others do not.
That's why I was pissed this one was shut. I'm like, "Where is the frigging conflict that warranted that?"
Where's the "conflict" that arose in Wil and Erz's?
So since there was no evidence and no explanation I brought this one back.
For the same reason the other two should be allowed to be recreated.

Assassin
06-27-2007, 01:06 PM
So now we have an All black one, and one for "every body else"

:cmad:

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 01:07 PM
No, what we have here is a total **** up...

Does... does this mean the world is over? A Mod has admitted another Mod f**ked up...

There is no Mod...

Lightning Strykez!
06-27-2007, 01:08 PM
Yeah, I don't get it.

Well, after what I've done today I fear one of us may be fired after today.

And it won't be Morg. :csad:

Hunter Rider
06-27-2007, 01:10 PM
Does... does this mean the world is over? A Mod has admitted another Mod f**ked up...

There is no Mod...

We all ****ed up in not communicating enough before calls were made

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 01:10 PM
Well, after what I've done today I fear one of us may be fired after today.

And it won't be Morg. :csad:

WTF for? You CORRECTED what he did wrong.

If you lose privilege for that then I say f**k em'.

Mee
06-27-2007, 01:11 PM
So now we have an All black one, and one for "every body else"

:cmad:
Apparently whites are the majority, and blacks are the major minority. :huh:

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 01:12 PM
Calls were made?

You make it sound like everything is done through committee.

It sounds like Morg saw a lot of similiar threads, merged them all without discussing it with anyone and not giving any explanation to anyone nor explaning to other posters why he did what he did. Which honestly is Morg's MO.

Lightning Strykez!
06-27-2007, 01:13 PM
No,what we have here is a total **** up, a bunch of merges,a re-opening and then this massive discussion brought about b/c we are all on separately and haven't been able to talk this through......hell im here and i never mod in community.

Agreed. This should have been handled differently.


Where's the "conflict" that arose in Wil and Erz's?

Brutal, I keep telling you--I DON'T KNOW. I wasn't online. Everything is just...done. *cries*


For the same reason the other two should be allowed to be recreated.

Well, Dew didn't say anything about threads devoted to cultures--I don't think her problem was with that. The multiple "Lounge" threads resembled spam--do you agree? "Cookie-cutting" this thread was not the best idea.

I was wrong to call this a "Lounge"...her point is true--we do only need one...and this was not designed to "segregate" from that.

GunBlade
06-27-2007, 01:13 PM
EDIT for e-feelings.

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 01:15 PM
Try giving gifts to other mods.

GunBlade
06-27-2007, 01:16 PM
Only way to resolve any problem involving community is to de-mod and/or ban morg.

Hunter Rider
06-27-2007, 01:16 PM
Calls were made?

You make it sound like everything is done through committee.

It sounds like Morg saw a lot of similiar threads, merged them all without discussing it with anyone and not giving any explanation to anyone nor explaning to other posters why he did what he did. Which honestly is Morg's MO.

Well with something of this nature usually there is a discussion given the various threads and posters it would effect

Ive not spoken to Morg since this happened so i don't know why he made the decision he did instead of just closing the spoof ones,Dew obviously felt that something needed to be done though hence her sticky

Assassin
06-27-2007, 01:17 PM
I say we vote on it.

I mean if this was a Job, you could only **** up so many times before they fire you, right? I think even voting on it is to much, but **** it.

Who wants morg to stay a Mod say I?

Assassin
06-27-2007, 01:17 PM
Try giving gifts to other mods.

:hyper:

lol :heart:

Lightning Strykez!
06-27-2007, 01:20 PM
WHY is Morg even a mod? Are you ppl that ****ing retarded?

:csad:

Let's not start bashing staff members--that wrong won't make any of this BS right.

Like I said, I've made a thread in the mod's forum asking for an explanation of what took place. I also alerted them that I was reopening this thread and that if any of the staff had a problem with it I would welcome their input. Let's just see how it goes.

I want no bashing of Morg--or anyone else--here.

Lackey
06-27-2007, 01:26 PM
I want no bashing of Morg--or anyone else--here.

We can bash the president when he ****s up, but we can't bash a mod when they do? :huh:


When people **** up, then need to be bashed.

Morg is a **** up. Everyone with half a brain knows it.

PWN3R
06-27-2007, 01:30 PM
I want no bashing of Morg--or anyone else--here.

Pointing out an obvious truth and bashing are totally different. If a few people had a problem with how Morg does his things, than maybe they are wrong. Yet when pretty much everyone unanimously agrees that he is wrong, it makes you wonder.

Lightning Strykez!
06-27-2007, 01:37 PM
We can bash the president when he ****s up, but we can't bash a mod when they do? :huh:


When people **** up, then need to be bashed.

Morg is a **** up. Everyone with half a brain knows it.

All I'm saying is that we have multiple mods so that we can have a checks-n-balances system. For example, I should've been more judicious by not calling this a "lounge" in the first place. So I ****ed up too (should've stuck with my original "Delta Quadrant" title).

So...let's not all pick on Morg. What's done is done for now. We hopefully will be able to learn from this.

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 01:37 PM
Well, Dew didn't say anything about threads devoted to cultures--I don't think her problem was with that. The multiple "Lounge" threads resembled spam--do you agree? "Cookie-cutting" this thread was not the best idea.

I was wrong to call this a "Lounge"...her point is true--we do only need one...and this was not designed to "segregate" from that.

So if the others had been renamed then this wouldn't have even been an issue?

Wilhelm-Scream
06-27-2007, 01:40 PM
If it's just semantics then I'll open the new and improved:

Caucasian "Explosion"

Right now.
Should I do that?


:rolleyes:

jaguarr
06-27-2007, 01:41 PM
So if the others had been renamed then this wouldn't have even been an issue?

Don't be a fascia dingus, dude. :o

jag

Lackey
06-27-2007, 01:42 PM
Don't be a fascia dingus, dude. :o

jag

Why aren't you a mod, yet?

Assassin
06-27-2007, 01:43 PM
If it's just semantics then I'll open the new and improved:

Caucasian "Explosion"

Right now.
Should I do that?


:rolleyes:

DO IT, DO IT! :o

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 01:43 PM
Kung Pow, The Asian Nation

http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb/20060916/Karate_Bow92111.jpg

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 01:44 PM
If it's just semantics then I'll open the new and improved:

Caucasian "Explosion"

Right now.
Should I do that?


:rolleyes:
I vote YES! :up:
Don't be a fascia dingus, dude. :o

jag
BWAHAHAHAAAA!

Assassin
06-27-2007, 01:44 PM
Why aren't you a mod, yet?

he refuses to send gifts

Assassin
06-27-2007, 01:46 PM
can I make one?

Arabia: Strap this to your chest!

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 01:49 PM
Kung Pow, The Asian Nation

http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb/20060916/Karate_Bow92111.jpg

http://z.about.com/d/movies/1/0/1/N/sammlevine.jpg

chamber-music
06-27-2007, 01:49 PM
In the words of George Mcfly "Last night, Darth Vader came down from planet Vulcan and told me that if I didn't take Lorraine out that he'd melt my brain".

Erzengel
06-27-2007, 01:49 PM
http://z.about.com/d/movies/1/0/1/N/sammlevine.jpg

Ronny!!!!!!!!

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 01:50 PM
R.i.p.

Lightning Strykez!
06-27-2007, 01:50 PM
If it's just semantics then I'll open the new and improved:

Caucasian "Explosion"

Right now.
Should I do that?


:rolleyes:

:p

Searching for loop-holes much? That's a bit too obvious. :hyper:

I'd recommend just waiting until the staff has a chance to discuss it okay? I really didn't expect this to become...so problematic for you guys. Therefore, my personal opinions notwithstanding, I may still have to close this thread just for the sake of peace.

You can take pride in the fact however, that your zeal for all things white have made this a cause of Hype Global Warming. :woot:

Darthphere
06-27-2007, 01:53 PM
Ronny!!!!!!!!

R.i.p.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=273090

jaguarr
06-27-2007, 01:56 PM
Why aren't you a mod, yet?

Because I said I'd ban your face if I was a mod, and that made Dew cry because she loves you. So....me no mod. *whattyagonnadoshrug*

jag

Lackey
06-27-2007, 01:57 PM
I may still have to close this thread just for the sake of peace.


close it NOW for the sake of peace


it's opened because of a "loop hole" anyway

BRUTAL
06-27-2007, 01:57 PM
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=273090

I stand by my statement.

Lackey
06-27-2007, 01:58 PM
.Because I said I'd ban your face if I was a mod, and that made Dew cry because she loves you. So....me no mod. *whattyagonnadoshrug*

jag


:(

Fran
06-27-2007, 01:58 PM
Wow. :down

Mee
06-27-2007, 02:00 PM
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=273090
We didn't even really vote. :cmad:

DBella
06-27-2007, 02:05 PM
Morg said this place is closed. :huh:
Anyway, glad to see it's not for it's not like the Hype Lounge.
With that said, will the Dim Sum place be back or does this "lounge" include all things Asian as well?