View Full Version : Would you care if your girlfriend was posing nude for money?
Movies205
05-08-2007, 07:15 PM
This is a question that has recently popped up in the last couple of days since my friend's girlfriend is posing nude for some site for like $500 for each set of pictures.
I can't really tell if it bothers my friend since I been busy with finals, etc didn't really talk to him that much, I'm not going assume what he thinks based on a couple of sentences. He was just kind of like, "Well, it isn't pornography, it's just um nude pics". So perhaps it does, perhaps it doesn't. I honestly, can't say whether it'd bother me or not, really depends on the girl plus it's her choice, it isn't mine. Thoughts? I'm curious what other people would do in this situation.
The Squirrel
05-08-2007, 07:16 PM
Yes, it probably would.
Drakon
05-08-2007, 07:27 PM
I guess it would depend on the nature of the pictures and of the place she's doing it for. I mean, if she's doing some nude shots for the local art school who needs models, then sure. But I would be uncomfortable with her doing sexual stuff for a less-than-reputable site.
Movies205
05-08-2007, 07:30 PM
I guess it would depend on the nature of the pictures and of the place she's doing it for. I mean, if she's doing some nude shots for the local art school who needs models, then sure. But I would be uncomfortable with her doing sexual stuff for a less-than-reputable site.
It's on one of those pin-up sites where people pay money to see how just turn 18 chicks naked... So you can infer the rest form that...
dsfjr1190
05-08-2007, 07:35 PM
Of course it would. It would be like she's cheating on me with the pedophiles of the world. (Seeing as how I'm only 16) I'd call her parents (anonymously) and put an end to it.
dsfjr1190
05-08-2007, 07:36 PM
Accidental double post. sorry. How do you delete posts here?
Drakon
05-08-2007, 07:47 PM
Staffers do.
Welcome to SHH. :)
Movies>> Yeah, I'd probably be uncomfortable. Not because of insecurities or whatever, but if it's not a reputable site, it could mess up her future.
Movies205
05-08-2007, 07:49 PM
Of course it would. It would be like she's cheating on me with the pedophiles of the world. (Seeing as how I'm only 16) I'd call her parents (anonymously) and put an end to it.
Welcome to the hype, you just made it into my sig :up:
Movies205
05-08-2007, 07:49 PM
Of course it would. It would be like she's cheating on me with the pedophiles of the world. (Seeing as how I'm only 16) I'd call her parents (anonymously) and put an end to it.
Welcome to the hype, you just made it into my sig :up:
Drakon
05-08-2007, 08:01 PM
How ironic. He makes a double post, and you double post annoucing him.
Arkady Rossovich
05-08-2007, 08:11 PM
For most,they would care.Why?Because their property is being seen by other men.Its a sort of primal thing.
Mike_D202
05-08-2007, 08:24 PM
1. she would have potential internet stalkers (not to mention the people in the town she lives in knowing what she does, thus becoming potential stalkers also)
2. every guy within 200 mile radius would be whipping out they're weiners at her
3. make sure nobody fixes her a rufie calada at a party
Movies205
05-08-2007, 08:24 PM
Women aren't property
Abaddon
05-08-2007, 08:36 PM
How ironic. He makes a double post, and you double post annoucing him.
WACKO!:yay:
terry78
05-08-2007, 08:47 PM
What if she says she's doing it anyway, with or without your blessing? Would you stay? Since we can't, you know....make our women do anything.
And yes, I would be damned if my nappy headed ho posed for anything. I'm all the audience she needs, dammit. :cmad:
Golgo-13
05-08-2007, 08:50 PM
This is a question that has recently popped up in the last couple of days since my friend's girlfriend is posing nude for some site for like $500 for each set of pictures.
I can't really tell if it bothers my friend since I been busy with finals, etc didn't really talk to him that much, I'm not going assume what he thinks based on a couple of sentences. He was just kind of like, "Well, it isn't pornography, it's just um nude pics". So perhaps it does, perhaps it doesn't. I honestly, can't say whether it'd bother me or not, really depends on the girl plus it's her choice, it isn't mine. Thoughts? I'm curious what other people would do in this situation.
PM me the site, so i can see for myself.
Superman
05-08-2007, 10:40 PM
I think my wife would have more of a problem with my girlfriend posing nude than I would. She's kind of a stickler about the whole "Not having a girlfriend while married" thing. :whatever: :csad:
:cwink: :cwink: :woot:
Ben Urich
05-08-2007, 10:45 PM
I think my wife would have more of a problem with my girlfriend posing nude than I would. She's kind of a stickler about the whole "Not having a girlfriend while married" thing. :whatever: :csad:
:cwink: :cwink: :woot:
Very nicely done. :woot::up:
DarthRekal
05-08-2007, 10:45 PM
Women aren't property
BLASPHEMY!:cmad:
:cwink: :oldrazz:
Prison Mike
05-08-2007, 10:49 PM
I would have a problem with it.
Dodger
05-08-2007, 11:16 PM
I wouldn't have a problem. But the aftermath of the internet pervs, yeah that would bug me.
Darthphere
05-08-2007, 11:17 PM
Like Drakon, it depends on the context.
psylockolussus
05-08-2007, 11:23 PM
I wouldn't have a problem of it, it's for money and art.
muertevilla
05-08-2007, 11:24 PM
i wouldnt give a damn so long as she helps pay my bills !!!
hippie_hunter
05-08-2007, 11:25 PM
For most,they would care.Why?Because their property is being seen by other men.Its a sort of primal thing.
Why do you continuously say stupid thing after stupid thing?
Darthphere
05-08-2007, 11:26 PM
Why do you continuously say stupid thing after stupid thing?
Because he's stupid?:huh:
ang_hulk
05-08-2007, 11:54 PM
unexceptable.
Halcohol
05-09-2007, 06:49 AM
I would probably pretend to be alright with it, then die from an ulcer months later.
Kyalesyin
05-09-2007, 07:39 AM
Probably wouldn't move me.
In fact, if my wife said she wanted to pose nude for money, I'd break out the champagne and throw a massive freaking party, since she hates her body and has only just got comfortable being naked around me....
If it makes you the money you need to get by, there isn't much harm in it.
Fried Gold
05-09-2007, 07:52 AM
only just got comfortable being naked around me....Pics, or it didn't happen.
Kyalesyin
05-09-2007, 07:54 AM
Pics, or it didn't happen.
I think she'd ram the camera up my ass if I even looked at it funny while she's undressed. She's really not all that secure. Otherwise, I would.
Fried Gold
05-09-2007, 07:55 AM
ram the camera up my assPics.
kane9321
05-09-2007, 07:55 AM
she wouldnt be my g/f anymore..thats fo darn sure
Kyalesyin
05-09-2007, 07:55 AM
Pics.
Kinda tough given the potential location of the camera...
kane9321
05-09-2007, 08:02 AM
I think she'd ram the camera up my ass if I even looked at it funny while she's undressed. She's really not all that secure. Otherwise, I would.
pics..plz:wow:
Crowforge
05-09-2007, 08:05 AM
Yes I would.
Erzengel
05-09-2007, 08:12 AM
I have an ex-gf who did artistic nude shots. Black & White, covering most of the prime real estate. This was after we dated, I think it would bother me more with having some guy take pictures of her that way than the fact that others would be checking her out.
the_ultimate_evil
05-09-2007, 08:15 AM
it would depend on the context, i am a photographer and i have seen some fantasticly shot artistic nudes, though personally i havnt done any studio model work as its quite complicated to work out( rights, how the image is distrubited, who owns the image) but there is levels between art and porno
if she was doing it before you started out then you've no say, if she started it while you were dating then, it should have been discussed, but in the end its her choice.
yours is either you live with and stay or pack up and go.
November Rain
05-09-2007, 08:16 AM
really depends on the calibre of shots...
my current girlfriend is a teacher so the only reason why i would care is that they may come back to haunt her and stop her from getting on with her teaching...
i'm not entirely fussed whether other people find her sexually attractive or not,
Movies205
05-09-2007, 10:38 AM
I have an ex-gf who did artistic nude shots. Black & White, covering most of the prime real estate. This was after we dated, I think it would bother me more with having some guy take pictures of her that way than the fact that others would be checking her out.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all about the arts... THis isn't artistic... This is the other type :(
jaguarr
05-09-2007, 10:50 AM
If my girlfriend was posing nude for money it wouldn't bother me but my wife would probably be pissed! Wakka wakka! :hyper:
jag
BRUTAL
05-09-2007, 10:53 AM
If she was just posing nude alone and didn't try to hide it from me I really don't think I'd have a problem with it.
Erzengel
05-09-2007, 11:09 AM
Don't get me wrong, I'm all about the arts... THis isn't artistic... This is the other type :(
What are we talking about?
Topless, full frontal, spread eagle?
Movies205
05-09-2007, 11:17 AM
I'm not really a frequent visitor of the site so I'm not sure what the full extent of it is. NOr could I post a link because I'm likely to get banned. However, I think it's women posing fully nude in sexy poses, and it's one of those specific type of girls, like "Alternative" BS or w/e. It's a pin-up site...
jaguarr
05-09-2007, 11:17 AM
What are we talking about?
Topless, full frontal, spread eagle?
http://radicalvixen.com/blog/blogpics/bound-and-gagged.jpg
:up:
jag
ShadowBoxing
05-09-2007, 11:21 AM
I don't know. Depends on the girl and the context. But really, as long as the pictures did not include her screwing around with someone else, and as long as I could trust her it wouldn't really bother me.
Erzengel
05-09-2007, 11:22 AM
I'm not really a frequent visitor of the site so I'm not sure what the full extent of it is.
Sure you don't. :whatever:
You'll be looking.
NOr could I post a link because I'm likely to get banned. However, I think it's women posing fully nude in sexy poses, and it's one of those specific type of girls, like "Alternative" BS or w/e. It's a pin-up site... Sure you don't.
So it's more along the lines of softcore.
Movies205
05-09-2007, 11:34 AM
Sure you don't. :whatever:
You'll be looking.
So it's more along the lines of softcore.
I believe so... Man that be way too odd... If I saw pics of her naked because she's my friend too, plus it cost money so f'that who pays for that stuff:cwink: :oldrazz:
ck51100
05-09-2007, 11:37 AM
I don't know....it would kind of be on par with dating a stripper. In one way it would kind of suck, but then again at the end of the day you have the joy of saying "I'm dating a stripper."
Erzengel
05-09-2007, 11:43 AM
I think this is pretty much a "personal" issue. I mean aside from the people who actually know she is doing this. It's not like she's going to be recognizable walking down the street.
terry78
05-09-2007, 11:58 AM
You will be tempted to view any letters or comments thrown the photo's way though, and they will piss you off, as we as guys have a tendency to get as graphic as possible when we're anonymously talking to women.
Lord Valumart
05-09-2007, 12:01 PM
i'd be annoyed. i wouldn't even like it if it was a freind let alone a girlfreind. i don;t really want to see someone i care about get their tits out for cash...cause no matter how harmless it may appear there's always a slim chance of her ending up on dvd bent backwards over a couch:csad:
Fanticon
05-09-2007, 01:09 PM
I've got two positions for you...
"The Thinker....and The Stinker"
SLVRSR4
05-09-2007, 06:27 PM
I'd be flattered for a moment that I have a good girlfriend then I would deport her!
Drakon
05-09-2007, 06:47 PM
I've got two positions for you...
"The Thinker....and The Stinker"
"Oh yeah. I took a test today, too. It was for Hepatitis. And I kicked ass. I got an "A", two "B"s and a "C".
Iceman
05-09-2007, 06:59 PM
Re: Would you care if your girlfriend was posing nude for money?
Yes, a lot, and more if she was doing it for free.
Sandman138
05-09-2007, 07:16 PM
So long as they weren't going into it blindly, I'd be fine with it. It's their body, and if they want to use it to make some cash, more power to them. I would, however, demand a private stash of the "best" pictures for myself, and some extraordinary performance in the sack. Compromise, boys and girls, is a wonderful thing.
Snipershot
05-09-2007, 07:18 PM
probably not. id think it would b cool to b like " hey, thats my girl"
cryptic name
05-09-2007, 08:34 PM
This is a question that has recently popped up in the last couple of days since my friend's girlfriend is posing nude for some site for like $500 for each set of pictures.
I can't really tell if it bothers my friend since I been busy with finals, etc didn't really talk to him that much, I'm not going assume what he thinks based on a couple of sentences. He was just kind of like, "Well, it isn't pornography, it's just um nude pics". So perhaps it does, perhaps it doesn't. I honestly, can't say whether it'd bother me or not, really depends on the girl plus it's her choice, it isn't mine. Thoughts? I'm curious what other people would do in this situation.
it would bother me. probably be a deal breaker
Superman79
05-09-2007, 08:35 PM
Funny you should ask this...as a fraternity brother of mine jsut started dating this girl named Adriane and as it turns out...she has her own website...
I wouldn't have believed it, but i met her last weekend and then the day after another brother sent me the link to her site...
AS far as Ben, the guy dating her is concerned...he really doesn't care. But we give him all kinds of s**t..:D
jaguarr
05-09-2007, 08:36 PM
Funny you should ask this...as a fraternity brother of mine jsut started dating this girl named Adriane and as it turns out...she has her own website...
I wouldn't have believed it, but i met her last weekend and then the day after another brother sent me the link to her site...
AS far as Ben, the guy dating her is concerned...he really doesn't care. But we give him all kinds of s**t..:D
Link? :D
jag
Master Chief
05-09-2007, 08:37 PM
Meh. As long as she stays faithful to me, it's all good. :dry:
Superman79
05-09-2007, 08:38 PM
Link? :D
jag
I'll pm it...just for giggles.
I wasn't sure if I could put it up or get in trouble or something... :D
jaguarr
05-09-2007, 08:40 PM
I'll pm it...just for giggles.
I wasn't sure if I could put it up or get in trouble or something... :D
If she's flashin' her boobies or more then, yeah, you could get in trouble for posting it. PM's, however, are perfectly acceptable. :D
jag
Superman79
05-09-2007, 08:42 PM
If she's flashin' her boobies or more then, yeah, you could get in trouble for posting it. PM's, however, are perfectly acceptable. :D
jag
oh there is definately some questionable flesh...I just have trouble seeing a gal with her sweet disposition (she was very nice...very sweet) doing that kinda thing, but then again it is easy money if you can get it...:woot:
jaguarr
05-09-2007, 08:44 PM
oh there is definately some questionable flesh...I just have trouble seeing a gal with her sweet disposition (she was very nice...very sweet) doing that kinda thing, but then again it is easy money if you can get it...:woot:
Tell your friend Ben he has good taste and that I said for him to "Enjoy". :up:
jag
Superman79
05-09-2007, 08:45 PM
Tell your friend Ben he has good taste and that I said for him to "Enjoy". :up:
jag
oh, believe me he has. :p I'll pass it along :woot:
and really, he just got lucky...he went to high school with her...then it was a chance college meeting and poof...he's dating a softcore pornstar **shrug** Lucky SOB
terry78
05-09-2007, 11:09 PM
If you constantly showcase her pics, you're exactly the reason why he should not be fine with her posing. :o
Erzengel
05-10-2007, 09:01 AM
I'll pm it...just for giggles.
I wasn't sure if I could put it up or get in trouble or something... :D
You don't get in trouble for pms. I've sent Dog Lips interesting ones.
And yeah forward me the link as well. :up:
Ahura Mazda
05-10-2007, 09:18 AM
This would defintely be a weird situation and I have no idea how I would react but if I did have a problem with it which is likely I would first ak her to stop and if she does not why she will not stop. If she resists I wuold then say i will match the photographer for her to not take the pictures.
the_ultimate_evil
05-13-2007, 10:24 AM
ahh what the hell i'll take a peek at the link
GoldenAgeHero
05-13-2007, 05:59 PM
link is hott!! very gorgeous chick.
Mixairian
05-13-2007, 06:13 PM
This is a question that has recently popped up in the last couple of days since my friend's girlfriend is posing nude for some site for like $500 for each set of pictures.
I can't really tell if it bothers my friend since I been busy with finals, etc didn't really talk to him that much, I'm not going assume what he thinks based on a couple of sentences. He was just kind of like, "Well, it isn't pornography, it's just um nude pics". So perhaps it does, perhaps it doesn't. I honestly, can't say whether it'd bother me or not, really depends on the girl plus it's her choice, it isn't mine. Thoughts? I'm curious what other people would do in this situation.
Link and pictures please.
ScottyBBadd
05-13-2007, 06:15 PM
Well, if I were taking the pics, I would be ok with it, but I don't think my fiancee would do it.
Mixairian
05-13-2007, 07:06 PM
Kudos to GoldenAgeHero for the link but I was kind've kidding... Now I'm wondering which girl is actually her. No matter. Hilarity. :)
GoldenAgeHero
05-13-2007, 07:36 PM
the brunette is her dude.
Mixairian
05-14-2007, 04:44 PM
Damn. I need a picture to describe how I feel.
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/1084/fuedidhitit0ax.jpg
Anyhow. I dunno who's girl that is but if she's good, doesn't **** around and is looks like that. I don't very well see the problem.
Someone pass the message along and ask if she's looking for a second boyfriend. ;)
The Man Of 16
05-14-2007, 04:52 PM
Women aren't property
But its like cheating. You have no right to cheat if youre in a relationship. So yes, women are property to men, and vice versa. But only in a relationship.
Mixairian
05-14-2007, 04:54 PM
Women aren't property
When the hell did this happen? I didn't get the memo.
terry78
05-14-2007, 09:49 PM
When the hell did this happen? I didn't get the memo.
I know, right? You best believe I want some sex, she better be ready to provide. :o
Kritish
05-14-2007, 11:55 PM
Something like Maxim? I wouldn’t care about that, actually that would be awesome. Now if it were some creepy ass site I’d care.
Colossal Spoons
05-14-2007, 11:58 PM
Very much so
Sloth7d
05-15-2007, 12:01 AM
I have a girlfriend hot enough to nude shots!!!!!!:eek: Awesome!:up:
zanos
05-15-2007, 12:34 PM
The true test for guys who aren't opposed to it is when you can pass the pictures off to your friends and have no problem with them seeing your girlfriend naked.
dpm07
05-15-2007, 01:09 PM
I think it's a personal choice of the female. If I had a girlfriend (I do not), I wouldn't care. It would be her decision, and I'd support whatever decision she decided to do.
If I decided to pose nude for money, and I had a girlfriend, I'd want her to support my decision to do so also.
GoldenAgeHero
05-15-2007, 02:04 PM
The true test for guys who aren't opposed to it is when you can pass the pictures off to your friends and have no problem with them seeing your girlfriend naked.
exactly!
Mr. Smash'n Bash
05-15-2007, 02:22 PM
Personally, I would wonder why she couldn't find an honest paying job.
terry78
05-15-2007, 02:23 PM
Personally, I would wonder why she couldn't find an honest paying job.
That's not honest work? It don't get more honest than letting the entire populous see your freshly shaved carpet.
Mr. Smash'n Bash
05-15-2007, 02:26 PM
That's not honest work? It don't get more honest than letting the entire populous see your freshly shaved carpet.
I don't consider flashing your junk/boobies/no no dilhi an honest days work.
jaguarr
05-15-2007, 02:34 PM
I have a girlfriend hot enough to nude shots!!!!!!:eek: Awesome!:up:
Not necessarily:
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/1880/bikini2be.jpg
*throwsupinmouthalittle*
jag
dpm07
05-16-2007, 05:36 AM
Personally, I would wonder why she couldn't find an honest paying job.
There's no dishonesty involved with posing nude for money.
She's being paid, and she's not breaking any laws. It's an artistic expression. We should be embracing this sense of empowerment the woman has for having enough pride in her appearance to pursue this endeavor, rather than chastise her for this activity.
amazingdm
05-16-2007, 05:44 AM
Yeah it would
amazingdm
05-16-2007, 05:47 AM
Why do you continuously say stupid thing after stupid thing?
you know what, what HE said wasn't stupid, what YOU did was.
Your response indicates a thinking of political correctness. The same denial people use all the time to avoid true facts.
What he said was simply, objectively true. It's how men feel and act.
Asteroid-Man
05-16-2007, 06:11 AM
Only person she can pose nude for is ME
Nepenthes
05-16-2007, 06:21 AM
Believe it or not but when I was 19 my girlfriend asked me if I would mind her posing for magazines. We had been living together for about a year after I left my parents house and were working our arses of to pay rent and eat *****ty food and never go out because we were always broke and tired and grumpy. We barely had furniture and used to invite friends over just so they could shout us booze and stuff, so I thought about for a bit and it felt pretty weird but then I was like hell yeah.
It was for a photographer who shot for soft-porn mags, just tits and bush but mostly I was worried that this guy would pressure her into something else or maybe would put his own moves on her when she was hanging around naked in his place. She answered an ad for modeling in the paper. I met the guy once and I made it clear in my demeanor that she was not to be fu*ked with.
It was cool because we had heaps of money but when I first saw her in a mag I wanted to buy all the copies. Eventually I kind of got over it. I told a few close friends and they were like 'that's bull**** man' but then I found a mag at one of their houses one day! I kinda thought it was funny they'd be looking at my girlfriend but only I could get the real thing. After a while plenty of people knew and if it came up she'd just talk about openly which also made me feel weird. About seven months she got a better job and decidied to stop, which was good timing because we both said it should only be a short thing. After we broke up she suddenly had money for a car and then she moved to a different state! Last time I saw her she looked five years older than her age, but the mags are better photos than I could ever have taken, she looks stunning and I'm glad I'll always have them to remember. I told her I'm going to show them to her kids one day. :heart: :woot:
logansoldcigar
05-16-2007, 09:31 AM
That's not honest work? It don't get more honest than letting the entire populous see your freshly shaved carpet.
Unless its a site for hairy marys, that have a minge like a decaying haystack. thats just foul.
logansoldcigar
05-16-2007, 09:33 AM
and on the topic, why should I care.
cos I know one thing:
However many men bat one out on her pics, I bat one out on her tits :)
Logan's Runt
05-29-2007, 12:47 PM
I am a paid nude model for (I'm fairly certain from the description) the site that this thread originally talked about. I love it, absolutely. My fiancee took the photos, it was a lovely experience. He tells everyone about it (friends/strangers, etc.) and seems more proud of it than I am, lol.
When I brought up the idea of doing it to him, he blushed and said 'I was going to suggest it to you a few months ago but I thought you'd think I was pervy.' Haha. Nerd.
I haven't gotten around to taking another set as its a lot of work and I've been busy. One of these days!
But aye, it was a mutual decision. I would have respected his opinion if he'd been against it. Probably would have tried to convince him otherwise, but I wouldn't have just gone off and done it.
I think its awesome to be able to say to random people: 'My tittays are on the interwebs and I got paid to do it!' But perhaps I'm strange in a particular sort of way. I think a lot of people today are way way too uncomfortable with nudity/sex. I see so much of it, all the time that its lost its shock value and is just another beautiful part of life.
Honey Vibe
05-29-2007, 12:58 PM
For most,they would care.Why?Because their property is being seen by other men.Its a sort of primal thing.
Men don't have the right to demand sexual fidelity from women? :huh:
Honey Vibe
05-29-2007, 01:05 PM
Something like Maxim? I wouldn’t care about that, actually that would be awesome. Now if it were some creepy ass site I’d care.
It'll be a clear day in Fog Valley when YOU date a Maxim model.
Logan's Runt
05-29-2007, 01:06 PM
Men don't have the right to demand sexual fidelity from women? :huh:
I think the term 'right to demand' gets at the point. Men and women have no right to demand anything from one another. They can lay out their terms for a relationship, what's tolerable and what's not, and if those are not met, end the relationship. Control has no place. If a girl doesn't want to conform to a 'sexual fidelity' standard, she shouldn't have to, but she shouldn't be surprised if most men leave because of it. You've got to find a partner who has compatible views on issues such as that.
Honey Vibe
05-29-2007, 02:20 PM
I think the term 'right to demand' gets at the point. Men and women have no right to demand anything from one another. They can lay out their terms for a relationship, what's tolerable and what's not, and if those are not met, end the relationship. Control has no place. If a girl doesn't want to conform to a 'sexual fidelity' standard, she shouldn't have to, but she shouldn't be surprised if most men leave because of it. You've got to find a partner who has compatible views on issues such as that.
At first I replaced the word "demand" with "ask", but I changed it back to "demand". I did this because there are threads of fidelity to himself on the line. It's humiliating to those who go into a relationship for comfort, love and understanding -- that is, real commitment -- to realize those personal moments were unauthentic. Like a teenager manipulating her parents, any protest is thrown back in his face as "primitiveness" "controlling", etc.
Your word choice showcases a lot of your thoughts about men. "Lay out terms", whether they are "met", "conformity", "standards", "compatibility". They seem like contractors to your real ambitions, and nothing like emotional beings.
The thing about committed relationships is, you're now looking out for the interests of someone other than yourself. True commitment touches on depths of openness, vulnerability, and fusion with another that many like yourself can never feel entirely comfortable with. If you don't want to "commit", as you said and I agree, that's fine and no one should make you. However, your interpretation of that "demand" as "control" has a lot more to do with your own deep-set fears, than saying no to chauvinism.
Logan's Runt
05-29-2007, 02:39 PM
Your word choice showcases a lot of your thoughts about men. "Lay out terms", whether they are "met", "conformity", "standards", "compatibility". They seem like contractors to your real ambitions, and nothing like emotional beings.
The thing about committed relationships is, you're now looking out for the interests of someone other than yourself. True commitment touches on depths of openness, vulnerability, and fusion with another that many like yourself can never feel entirely comfortable with. If you don't want to "commit", as you said and I agree, that's fine and no one should make you. However, your interpretation of that "demand" as "control" has a lot more to do with your own deep-set fears, than saying no to chauvinism.
You seem to be making quite a few assumptions about me here. Being an emotional being doesn't mean that you can't evaluate a relationship with an eye for logic. If a girl wants to live her life in a certain way that whatever boyfriend she's with disagrees with fundamentally, its time to move on. If two people have different values, those values shouldn't need to be compromised on either side.
I take offense that you make the judgement that I can never feel entirely comfortable with 'true committment.' What makes you think I was talking about myself necessarily? I was talking about myself when I said I was a nude model, etc. The bit about 'a girl' was an ideology about the way relationships could work or not. I do happen to conform to a sexual fidelity standard that both my partner and I agree fully upon. The fact that I believe that relationships and love can be as varied as the people in them doesn't mean that my personal relationship is 'not standard' in any way at all.
I don't understand how real committment as you define it is not possible if the girl is a nude model. If that guy doesn't feel that real committment is being given to him by a girl that is a nude model, then he shouldn't be with a nude model. He should date a girl who feels similarly. I'm not saying in any way that he should change himself or his values. But to make a generalization that the only way to have a true committed relationship can never include nude modeling or other non-standard life choices is rediculous and small minded.
What I was saying in my last post was that neither partner in a relationship should be required to comprimise their beliefs and values in order to please the other-- meet their 'demands.' If a value of one person is intolerable to the other (as in, after discussion no middle ground can be reached), the relationship should end. Simple. Your need to bring assumptions about me personally into the discussion is petty.
Movies205
05-29-2007, 03:37 PM
To interject a male point of view... This idea of property, demands, etc only work if the other benefits from those same ideals. For example, if the woman I'm dating belongs to me then I should belong to her, whatever wierd notions spring from such a system I do not know, I don't think a person can be someone else property. I think that in a relationship, either person has the right to make demands, sacrifices must be made or else it simply two people occupying the same space, nothing binding, and just as easily as that person walked in that person can walk out, there needs to be some feeling of needing to sacrifce or fight for. On the same tolken I agree with LogansRunt, one should never compromise one's fundamental ideals for someone else and at that point it's time to call it quits. Also I don't believe there's any right way to how one lives there life, posing nude is not evil, it really just depends on one's value set. I was simply curious how people valued their girlfriend's posing nude, the reason teh question is so gendered is a good portion of the forum is male so I was curious what hte male prospective was. As to whether I would care or not, I do not know... Part of me wouldn't care because it would be her body but the other side of me knows I'd probably be dating a woman with intelligence and was skilled in something, and I'd rather she were using her talents to that field instead of selling pictures of herself... But ultimately it would be her decision.
Logan's Runt
05-29-2007, 03:45 PM
T I'd probably be dating a woman with intelligence and was skilled in something, and I'd rather she were using her talents to that field instead of selling pictures of herself... But ultimately it would be her decision.
Not attacking/disagreeing with you by any means, but a girl can't really make a living at the nudie interweb business, at least on the site I'm a part of (the time between being paid for a set and being able to submit another can be a year or more). Most of the girls on there are very talented and intelligent and do use those qualities for their careers. Its a nice hobby for most, something to participate in on the side and make a bit of cash too. The site is quite the community as well, and a lot of people come for the naked and stay for the community.
I just thought I'd explain a bit since not everyone knows a whole lot about how this kind of thing works.
terry78
05-29-2007, 03:53 PM
If you have to ask for your partner's permission for them to be monagamous to you alone, that's a red flag right there. Sometimes you just have to stand up and make some choices, damn the equal partnership stuff. Some of them actually appreciate your taking charge moreso than asking about every little miniscule thing.
jaguarr
05-29-2007, 03:56 PM
http://img48.exs.cx/img48/8809/catfight.jpg
jag
terry78
05-29-2007, 03:57 PM
^Nothing is more tantalizing than a white and asian chick catfight. It just isn't.
jaguarr
05-29-2007, 03:59 PM
Well, the one on the bottom may not be Asian. To be fair, she's squinting her eyes and that other girl's pulling her hair back pretty far. :o
jag
Logan's Runt
05-29-2007, 04:04 PM
Hah, that's great!
terry78
05-29-2007, 04:05 PM
Well, the one on the bottom may not be Asian. To be fair, she's squinting her eyes and that other girl's pulling her hair back pretty far. :o
jag
Yeah, that is a tad racist now that i think about it if that is the case. :dry:
Honey Vibe
05-29-2007, 04:08 PM
What I was saying in my last post was that neither partner in a relationship should be required to comprimise their beliefs and values in order to please the other-- meet their 'demands.'
This is not the statement you made in your last post. You said, and I quote, "Men and women have no right to demand anything from one another", in the context of sexual fidelity. What this sounded like, to my mind, is that a man does not even have the right to express his "beliefs and values", without being put down as "controlling".
My own life is not committed to any standard, and I would be a hypocrite to not afford you the same right. I believe in a whole spectrum of human experience, and seeing through lenses of "right" and "wrong" are often excuses for intolerance. My point, however, was that affording people no right to demand sexual fidelity, is obtuse. Of course they have that right. If it's not for you, you should leave, without any remarks about the other being "controlling" (wrong).
Really I think we're on the same page, and talking about two sets of rights that exist in paradox.
Wilhelm-Scream
05-29-2007, 04:10 PM
Would you care if I posed nude for money, Honey Vibe?
jaguarr
05-29-2007, 04:12 PM
Really I think we're on the same page, and talking about two sets of rights that exist in paradox.
:(
*wheels away kiddy pool full of tapioca*
jag
Honey Vibe
05-29-2007, 04:12 PM
Would you care if I posed nude for money, Honey Vibe?
You can do whatever you want, sugar nipples! :yay:
jaguarr
05-29-2007, 04:13 PM
Would you care if I posed nude for money, Honey Vibe?
You better hope she says "no" because it's too late to undo it all, now.
jag
Logan's Runt
05-29-2007, 04:19 PM
This is not the statement you made in your last post. You said, and I quote, "Men and women have no right to demand anything from one another", in the context of sexual fidelity. What this sounded like, to my mind, is that a man does not even have the right to express his "beliefs and values", without being put down as "controlling".
My own life is not committed to any standard, and I would be a hypocrite to not afford you the same right. I believe in a whole spectrum of human experience, and seeing through lenses of "right" and "wrong" are often excuses for intolerance. My point, however, was that affording people no right to demand sexual fidelity, is obtuse. Of course they have that right. If it's not for you, you should leave, without any remarks about the other being "controlling" (wrong).
Really I think we're on the same page, and talking about two sets of rights that exist in paradox.
I think so as well. While I'm saying a person has the right not to be controlled by having something demanded of them, you're saying that someone has the right to uphold their personal beliefs. Really its the same thing, I just have issues with the word 'demand' as I see it as a victimizing term. But you're seeing the person doing the demanding as the one possibly victimized, and I can see that. In short, neither side should feel pushed into ideals they don't agree with and have the right to assert themselves accordingly.
I wasn't trying to say that partners can't assert their beliefs because that's a controlling action, I was taking the word 'demand' to indicate a partner unfairly forcing their beliefs on the other. I apologize that it sounded that way. The way you seem to be using the term is as an assertion of a fundamental value to a given person, which I have no problem with. Its when values are imposed on others (in this case 'you can't pose nude' rather than 'i can't be in a relationship with someone who poses nude'). I think this just comes down to a different use of the term 'demand.'
Excel
05-29-2007, 04:27 PM
it didnt bother my girlfriend when i did it...
~†~§iX~†~
05-29-2007, 04:33 PM
My fiancee has modelled before in various states of undress for fetish photography. The pictures have been published in a book by the photographer, and have appeared in Bizarre magazine and online. I am pretty easy going about that whole thing. I have always said that if she wanted to return to modelling then I wouldn't mind, as long as she wasn't used and abused by the photographer. It's a little weird from some point of views, but I believe it would be no problem for me as long as it wasn't pornography, because I can be the jealous type!......
Wilhelm-Scream
05-29-2007, 04:42 PM
The pictures have been published in a book by the photographer, and have appeared in Bizarre magazine.Dude! That's one of my favorite magazines. I have them all the way back to the 90's.
Which issue/s?
I'll tell you if she's hot or not!
jaguarr
05-29-2007, 04:44 PM
Dude! That's one of my favorite magazines. I have them all the way back to the 90's.
Which issue/s?
I'll tell you if she's hot or not!
Yeah, my wife actually has several back issues of it as well. Very nice.
jag
Honey Vibe
05-29-2007, 04:51 PM
Dude! That's one of my favorite magazines. I have them all the way back to the 90's.
Which issue/s?
I'll tell you if she's hot or not!
WTF teh lol :woot:
~†~§iX~†~
05-29-2007, 04:54 PM
Dude! That's one of my favorite magazines. I have them all the way back to the 90's.
Which issue/s?
I'll tell you if she's hot or not!
Well, I can't remember exactly which issue. It must have been somewhere between 5 and 6 years ago. If it helps, she has helium balloons on ribbon tied to her nipple rings!......
Honey Vibe
05-29-2007, 05:02 PM
Well, I can't remember exactly which issue. It must have been somewhere between 5 and 6 years ago. If it helps, she has helium balloons on ribbon tied to her nipple rings!......
[Not Jake] Quick, Wilhelm -- to the erection cave!! [/Not Jake]
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