Volume 2: Generations!!!!!

[Spidey Lover 10]

SO.....what do U think will happen NEXT?:hyper::hyper::woot:

[IzzyJG99]

Hard to say, really. I imagine Hiro will stay in 1661 for a while. At least 5-6 episodes. He'll probably hang out with Kensei and find out the origin of the powers, maybe. Eitherway I think he's gonna bend time and space and come in to save the day during plot development and be all badarse with Samurai skills.

Nathan is clearly blown to poo. It is possible that he flew Peter up and then flew back far enough to survive. Maybe. Maybe not. Peter is obviously going to come back. He's too good of a character for anyone to let die. Plus he can heal, and that's good. I'm glad they didn't kill Sylar. I think Zachary Quinto plays that character real well.

When Hiro stabbed him all plainly I was like "Aww c'mon."

I'm interested at what Molly Walker said. That there is someone out there worse than Sylar. Clearly a villian for next season.

[Zombie_samurai]

I agree
Although at first when Hiro whent back in time I thought he whent to the dinosaur age like in that picture

[Kanon]

Surely Hero is going to become that Kensei dude, like in those fan theories... I think the whole Volume would be about Hiro time travelling ades..., taking part or witnessing events that led to the world as we saw in Vol I...

[Caliber]

I have a feeling Sylar's next victim is Candace and that Peter survived. I see next season like this. Its going to be the search for Peter, Sylar's continued path of death, Wraith of the older generation, and new characters thrown into all this. I have a feeling Molly was talking about Claude.

[IzzyJG99]

Here's the interesting thing. IMDB.com usually tells you who will be on what show for how long. Check this out...all of the casts say only "2006-2007"

Are we going to actually have new people each season or what?

[Donnie Darko]

I'm betting Peter will definitely be back.
I think Nathan is gone for good. Like other characters in different tv shows/movies/comics, Nathan found his redemption right before he died. He went out a hero, and I don't think that they should cheapen that.
I liked Sylar, but I was hoping he would be dead, making way for a new "big bad."

[KniteYxSpydeY]

http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=62a29792-b3f3-401a-be08-4c90b16e2bf8

Spoiler alert. Read at your own risk.

[Lone]

Can't wait for Generations...the wait will be long and painful.

My mind is going nuts with theories...could Kensei actually be Hiro's father and his power is immortality or maybe something akin to Wolverine's slow aging?

Found it interesting that HRG's name is Noah...maybe he has plans to build an "ark" and round up people with powers to protect them from The Company? :p

On a different note, I found it hilarious that they showed a cockroach crawling out of the sewer lid...can't wipe them cockroaches out even if you tried...like Sylar.

[Color Me Blue]

i didn't really have any doubts that peter would be back....even though he was bound to go kaboom, and that particular power has the potential to be devestating, no one's powers have yet to be self-terminating....even if he couldn't heal....ted couldn't really kill himself with his own power could he? sylar wasn't worried about dying from it either....

peter needs to follow in hiro's footsteps and learn to harness his freakin powers....but once he does, his plot line will end up like supes....nothing can stop him so there aren't really too many interesting things they can challenge him with....unless they go early seasons of smallville about him learning about new powers, or batman beyond and have him mentor someone....

[squeekness]

Here's the interesting thing. IMDB.com usually tells you who will be on what show for how long. Check this out...all of the casts say only "2006-2007"

Are we going to actually have new people each season or what?Well, we at least know that Hiro will be back for part of next season if not all. :)

[GNR]

http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=62a29792-b3f3-401a-be08-4c90b16e2bf8

Spoiler alert. Read at your own risk.

Yup.

I'm calling it right now,Pete and Nate's arc in Season 2 will deal with them secretly trying to figure out their mother's history and the mystery behind their dad's death.

[Pimpjuice16]

i predict hiro will be stuck in that time period and cannot use his powers to get back because of teh eclipse that was occuring which is blocking the use of his powers.

[Pimpjuice16]

Yup.

I'm calling it right now,Pete and Nate's arc in Season 2 will deal with them secretly trying to figure out their mother's history and the mystery behind their dad's death.
thought they were dead???:wow:

[rdh007]

I liked Sylar, but I was hoping he would be dead, making way for a new "big bad."

Completely agree.

Though I'd like to see Nate back, if only because I really dig that character.

[samurai black]

http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=62a29792-b3f3-401a-be08-4c90b16e2bf8

Spoiler alert. Read at your own risk.

Nathan shouldn't be alive, it wouldn't make any sense. I can see Peter wandering the earth with a lost memory. The person w/ the drinking problem will probably be Parkman.

[IzzyJG99]

Spoiler alert...don't scroll down if you don't want to find out.










Okay. I've been scanning a few IRC rooms, chats on AOL and a few other places. Seems the consensus is that Kensei is going to turn out to be Hiro's Father. I for one hope so.

[Speedball]

Spoiler alert...don't scroll down if you don't want to find out.











Okay. I've been scanning a few IRC rooms, chats on AOL and a few other places. Seems the consensus is that Kensei is going to turn out to be Hiro's Father. I for one hope so.
It was kind of obvious, it's not much of a spoiler.

[Halcohol]

http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=62a29792-b3f3-401a-be08-4c90b16e2bf8

Spoiler alert. Read at your own risk.
HRG's First Name Is Noah: Huh.

Precisely my reaction. How anticlimactic.

I think Hiro will end up with the clichéd "impersonate the REAL hero and fight the bad guys" storyline, but I doubt we'll see Peter or Sylar for at least a little while.

[GyLocke]

Hiro meets a badass with powers in Feudal Japan.
The twist will be that said badass is still alive today, and he is the one Molly is so scared of.

Maybe he is the one arranging people with powers to reproduce for special offsprings, that's why there are so many hero-couples.

[chris moore]

Anyone know when season 2 begins? Are they going to do a "Lost" by not waiting a whole year, but bring it out in about three months? The second season got greenlit months ago, so they may have started filming already.

[Sentry2005]

I can see Pete falling into depression over the death of his brother, while Sylar comes back with no memory. I hope Nathan is back properly next season; I loved that cynical initially morally grey but then brings it all back to save the day at the last minute guy. :csad:

[batnkevlar]

I can see Volume II: Generations bringing in the older powers, such as Ma and Pa Petrelli, Simone's father, Claude, and other oldies...

[The Question]

Here's how I see it:

1: I think kensei is Hiro's father. I don't think he's immortal or can time travel, as that's too close to Claire and Hiro. My guesses are:

A: He has some kind of "good luck" power. The reason he can't die is simply because nothing every bad happens to him. However, that doesn't explain how he could commit suicide and still be alive, nor does it explain how he could be 400 yeras old and not look any older. Which brings me to...

B: Hiro's father is the reincarnation of Kensei. Which may in fact be his power. Every time he dies, he's reborn instantly.

2: I think the person worse than Sylar will be somehow related to Uluru. Maybe the Dragon fron the Kenei story?

[Spidey Lover 10]

glad u all r enjoying this thread!

[Mysterio]

Mama-Papa Petrelli: Peter; Nathan-Meridith: Claire

Simone's father-?: Simone

Kensei........: Hiro's father-?: Hiro

DL-Nikki: Micah

Parkman-Janice: Matt, Jr

Suresh-Mama Suresh: daughter; Mohinder

[Cannibal Feast]

I really think Nathan's character has run its course. Let him die a hero. Anything after that will just cheapen his sacrifice. Besides, how much more could he possibly do? Being able to fly doesn't exactly make him useful in a fight. How many times can he save the day at the last minute by flying the threat away?
I like the idea of Peter having no memory. That had actually occurred to me before I read it in this thread. The explosion and loss of his brother could be such a traumatic event that his memory just shuts down for a while.
I love where they're going with Hiro. He seems like the most dynamic character. His is truly a "hero's journey." He could stay in 17th century Japan long enough to train and a become a true warrior. Eventually he could emerge in modern-day as if no time has passed but with a whole slew of new skills.
I don't know yet how I feel about Sylar living. He is a great character and could possibly have a lot more story left in him. They just better make it good and have the character evolve in some way. Otherwise, season 2 could end up as a rehash of season 1. Although, I don't see that happening. We all know this show is written very skillfully and with plenty of surprises.
I hope we haven't seen the last of Claire and Mr. Bennet. They could just go back to their happy, normal lives at this point and live happily ever after. But I think they could be much more important in the future. Particularly Noah. He has seen the light and knows what his former company wants to do to all our heroes. He could be the central figure in organizing them as a team and keeping them safe. If they ever do go the route of being a "superhero team" he would be an excellent leader figure. No, I don't mean X-Men or Justice League style. This would be a more reality based team. And NO tights or capes! lol
Anyway, I'm just rambling now. The bottom line is I love this show and I'm hyped for season 2!

[Spidey Lover 10]

damn.......ah well.....beggers can't be choosers.....SYLAR MUST DIE, THOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AT LEAST NEXT SEASON, IF NOT 3RD! THERE'S NO WAY HE COULD'VE SURVIVED A SWORD THROUGH THE CHEST BY HIRO (WAY 2 GO, HIRO!!!!!! UR ROCK!!!!)!!!!

[Mysterio]

I hope we haven't seen the last of Claire and Mr. Bennet. They could just go back to their happy, normal lives at this point and live happily ever after. But I think they could be much more important in the future. Particularly Noah. He has seen the light and knows what his former company wants to do to all our heroes. He could be the central figure in organizing them as a team and keeping them safe. If they ever do go the route of being a "superhero team" he would be an excellent leader figure. No, I don't mean X-Men or Justice League style. This would be a more reality based team. And NO tights or capes!well there is still the conflict between Bennet and the Linderman/Petrelli group. that's not going away. the Haitian and Claude are still around as well. the question is what happens to Molly? will she be looked after by Bennet, Parkman, or DL and Nikki?

[chris moore]

Stopping the exploding man doesnt answer anything about the rest of the series. Nathan saving the day doesnt end his development, story potential and usefulness. There's a lot more about this volume that they can address without us saying things are done, and these people'll leave etc.

Like how involved in people's lives (in terms of birth, influence on childood, knowledge of coming power etc) were Linderman and the Petrelli's?

Who is next in the chain of the company and what exactly is their agenda?

Can Nathan now work behind the scenes, his mother believing him to have perished in the explosion?

How could Linderman et al. have any idea who would explode and why it was inevitable? Simply because they run the company and the company had Issac to paint for them for a while? What makes that concrete inevitability?

And if Issac is their key to future knowledge, then how would Simone's father have known anything about the grand plan to be discussing it even before Peter discovered his powers? How could Linderman and his friends have orchestrated the pairing of DL and Nicki to produce Micah with his SPECIFIC power set to enable them to get a pawn of theirs into office for the coming apocalypse recovery?

Now that Linderman is dead, will all his healing efforts become nullified (we, or Nathan havent seen Nathan's wife since just before DL killed Linderman)?

What was the point of Hiro learning sword fighting if he was going to fight a man who needs no weapon to have to block and parry against, and only needed to be stabbed?

If Papa Petrelli was planning on taking down Linderman just before he died, then is Mama Petrelli lying about his involvement with whoever their clandestine group is? If so, to what extent? That Papa Petrelli was ever with them, or that he was a turncoat like Hiro's father?

[GNR]

well there is still the conflict between Bennet and the Linderman/Petrelli group. that's not going away. the Haitian and Claude are still around as well. the question is what happens to Molly? will she be looked after by Bennet, Parkman, or DL and Nikki?

Looks like it's going to be Mohinder.

[Mysterio]

Can Nathan now work behind the scenes, his mother believing him to have perished in the explosion? he was just elected to congress. that's a pretty visible gig. how can his "death" be explained away to an entire state/country?

[Mysterio]

Looks like it's going to be Mohinder.i left Mohinder out because: he's single, not a family. and he'll be traveling globally. i doubt he'd have Molly in tow...unless he uses her to find people. hmm. maybe so, but i think he's the least likely.

[Cannibal Feast]

he was just elected to congress. that's a pretty visible gig. how can his "death" be explained away to an entire state/country?

That's a good point. As a public figure, it will be much easier for him to pretend it never happened than to just disappear and have people wondering what happened?

[The_Beav]

If Nathan does not surface, I imagine Candace or some other illusionist/shape shifter will take his place. Whoever that is will work for Mama Petrelli and the OWI.

I also suspect we won't see Peter right away. I'm sure it will take him a while to recover, physically and emotionally.

If Peter actually exploded into millions of pieces, would that not be the same as being shot in the head? Or, damage to the brain causing him not to regenerate? If the "explosion" was simply a burst of radiation and he survives in one piece, then fine. If he is cole slaw, he should not be able to regenerate. Unless there is some other explanation for the regeneration. What stop Claude or Peter from regenerating after Sylar cut out their brain? If there is a special little gland in the back of the head, surely a nuclear blast would also destroy it.

[The Caped Knight]

Look's like both The Petrelli boys survived and will both be back next season .

http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/Columnists/Ask-Ausiello/default.aspx?posting={6897CD84-AD0B-40EB-924F-25FFC9238700}

YAHOO !!!!!!!

[stillanerd]

Actually, it says that Adrian Pasdar, the actor who plays Nathan, would be back, however that doesn't necessarily mean he'll be playing Nathan. After all, as far the rest of the world is concerned, he didn't fly into the air with his brother to save New York from a nuclear blast and Mama Pettrelli is certainly not going to reveal that. The most logical thing is that Candice, who worked for Linderman and, by proxy, Mama Pettrelli, will be impersonating Nathan via illusion powers in order to keep up the front of being a conressman, just like Mystique impersonated Senator Kelly in X2 (Course that's certainly going to have interesting ramifications and subtexts when it comes to Nathan's wife).

Peter with amensia would make sense and, in terms of the season, allows him to learn more about his past and especially his father, not to mention that, if he has amensia, he won't easily bring up his acquired powers because, since they're dependent on remembering a particular person, amensia would prevent that.

I bet Matt is the one who'll end up with the drinking problem, having come close to dying at the hands of Sylar, and will probably be asked by the FBI to look for him again, and this time its far more personal for him. This, I think, will also connect to Claire in that I believe Sylar will try to come after her to acquire her power.

I think it's apparent that Kensei is Hiro's dad and is alive in this era because his power is that his power is immortality or rather he retards the aging process a la Wolverine and it will be through Hiro (and through Peter's dream-like flashbacks) where we learn the origins of the previous generation of Heroes that was made up of Hiro's father, Linderman, Mr. and Mrs. Pettrelli, and Charles Deaverux.

As for who the person that worse than Sylar? Has to be Uluru, whoever that happens to be.

I also read somewhere that there were at least three new "heroes" for next season, one them described as a "male model" but I can't remember where.

[Mysterio]

one them described as a "male model"...

http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/parenting/2006/08/01/zoolander_blog240x303.jpg

[Caliber]

If Nathan does not surface, I imagine Candace or some other illusionist/shape shifter will take his place. Whoever that is will work for Mama Petrelli and the OWI.

I also suspect we won't see Peter right away. I'm sure it will take him a while to recover, physically and emotionally.

If Peter actually exploded into millions of pieces, would that not be the same as being shot in the head? Or, damage to the brain causing him not to regenerate? If the "explosion" was simply a burst of radiation and he survives in one piece, then fine. If he is cole slaw, he should not be able to regenerate. Unless there is some other explanation for the regeneration. What stop Claude or Peter from regenerating after Sylar cut out their brain? If there is a special little gland in the back of the head, surely a nuclear blast would also destroy it.

I doubt Peter completly exploded because Ted had never exploded like that. Peter should been able to survive since he can heal because the nuke powers never made anyone explode in pieces. But Peter falling to the ground might hurt. It would be interesting to find Peter in the hands of the company and using him to impersonate his brother.

[Marvin]

linderman runs(ran) the agency

considering she talked as if they were old pals...

plus thompson said the bomb needs to go off and what not

seems like everyone was in Kahoots

so then why or why
was moma petrelli was trying to keep claire hidden from the angency
someone please

[Caliber]

linderman runs(ran) the agency

considering she talked as if they were old pals...

plus thompson said the bomb needs to go off and what not

seems like everyone was in Kahoots

so then why or why
was moma petrelli was trying to keep claire hidden from the angency
someone please

Maybe she was protecting her since she might be needed in the future or that she was family. Maybe mama patrilli cares about her.

[Sentry2005]

Plus, in 'Company Man', Hiro's dad tells Bennet to look after Claire until she manifests, at which time she will be given back to them, a group which we know included Mama Petrelli.
With the Haitian still working for the company, and informing Mama Petrelli
that Claire had begun to show her heritage, bringing her back in that way was easier than forcibly removing Claire from Noah's grasp;
simply put, why bother agrivating this man who is clearly putting his own ideals above those of the Company (earsing the memories of those who know Claire has powers, so to keep her away from the Company), when you can make him believe its for her own safety that she go away with the Haitian? They played Bennet to make the transition easier, so he wouldn't argue.
Of course this is all my own interpretation of the scenario. It's probably nothing like that.

[Caliber]

Plus, in 'Company Man', Hiro's dad tells Bennet to look after Claire until she manifests, at which time she will be given back to them, a group which we know included Mama Petrelli.
With the Haitian still working for the company, and informing Mama Petrelli
that Claire had begun to show her heritage, bringing her back in that way was easier than forcibly removing Claire from Noah's grasp;
simply put, why bother agrivating this man who is clearly putting his own ideals above those of the Company (earsing the memories of those who know Claire has powers, so to keep her away from the Company), when you can make him believe its for her own safety that she go away with the Haitian? They played Bennet to make the transition easier, so he wouldn't argue.
Of course this is all my own interpretation of the scenario. It's probably nothing like that.

The wierd part is Mama Petrilli didn't seeme too upset over Claire running away. So she either is trying to keep her from the company by taking care of her herself or isn't going to give to the company.

[Sugarculted]

I can see the search for Peter, probably arranged by Claire or HRG.
I reckon Parkman's gonna survive for a few more episodes.
What wouldn't surprise me, if Sylar is actually killed by this 'terrifying new threat'.

I don't know about you guys, but I had a feeling Claude's actually been on each episode so far :o I need more Eccleston.

Damn it, I really want Ted and Isaac back. I kinda understood why Isaac was killed off, we don't want someone knowing the future for all the episodes.

Ted though, was awesome :csad:

[GL1]

Candace impersonating Nathan makes perfect sense...

I think Peter would be better off dealing with being resposnible for his brother's death and not being comfortable with his powers... and being a dream guide. I think Sylar would be better off with Amnesia... (especially since he had that whole eye thing in the finale)... Peter could easily take up drinking, though...

Stopping the exploding man doesnt answer anything about the rest of the series. Nathan saving the day doesnt end his development, story potential and usefulness. There's a lot more about this volume that they can address without us saying things are done, and these people'll leave etc.

Like how involved in people's lives (in terms of birth, influence on childood, knowledge of coming power etc) were Linderman and the Petrelli's?

Who is next in the chain of the company and what exactly is their agenda?

Can Nathan now work behind the scenes, his mother believing him to have perished in the explosion?

How could Linderman et al. have any idea who would explode and why it was inevitable? Simply because they run the company and the company had Issac to paint for them for a while? What makes that concrete inevitability?

And if Issac is their key to future knowledge, then how would Simone's father have known anything about the grand plan to be discussing it even before Peter discovered his powers? How could Linderman and his friends have orchestrated the pairing of DL and Nicki to produce Micah with his SPECIFIC power set to enable them to get a pawn of theirs into office for the coming apocalypse recovery?

Now that Linderman is dead, will all his healing efforts become nullified (we, or Nathan havent seen Nathan's wife since just before DL killed Linderman)?

What was the point of Hiro learning sword fighting if he was going to fight a man who needs no weapon to have to block and parry against, and only needed to be stabbed?

If Papa Petrelli was planning on taking down Linderman just before he died, then is Mama Petrelli lying about his involvement with whoever their clandestine group is? If so, to what extent? That Papa Petrelli was ever with them, or that he was a turncoat like Hiro's father?


These are all questions which relate to the series as a whole, many to "Generations" of Heroes, which will almost certainly be dealt with next season, and are not directly related to the bomb, which is the center of Volume 1. It's what started episode 1, it's what ended the finale. Everything else is series-wide, not season-specific.

In Season 2 we'll see what the Originals were about and why they did what they did...

And Hiro's sword fighting was obviously an attitude adjustment more than technique training...

Also I don't see why Linderman's healing would go away... Future Hiro's changes to time didn't go away when he died... when you change something, it's different.

[Sentry2005]

The wierd part is Mama Petrilli didn't seeme too upset over Claire running away. So she either is trying to keep her from the company by taking care of her herself or isn't going to give to the company.

See, the way I see it, Claire was a nusence to Linderman and the group if they wanted Nathan to be the leader of this brave new age;
Claire would break the image of family man that Nathan had going for him, or rather would have going for him by the time of the bomb; the Company have been planning this a long time, long enough to set up Niki and DL, get them to have a kid and allow that kid to grow up to be at least ten. Its no stretch to believe that they were planning it way back when Claire was born.

Having said that, Claire is still family and in Heroes that means she's part of a Super Powered Dynasty. The Petrelli's and Linderman gave Claire to Bennet so that if she didn't have powers she wouldn't be around to ruin their overall plan, but if she did have powers she would be welcomed back into the fold.
When it became clear that she did have powers, the Haitian told Petrelli and this began the long line which lead to Claire discovering her heritage and returning to them. When it became obvious that Claire wouldn't be following their grand scheme, Mama Petrelli wanted Claire shifted off to France before she could ruin it. Her jumping out of the window is the same difference; if she goes to stop the bomb, she'll probably die, but she'll be out of the picture. Mama Petrelli was willing to sacrifice Peter for the good of the world, I think she'd be willing to sacrifice a kid she doesn't even know.
just a theory.

[Mysterio]

so then why or why
was moma petrelli was trying to keep claire hidden from the angency
someone pleaseshe wasn't. the agency knew about Claire. Bennet was under orders to give Claire back if/when she exhibited any abilities. as far as we know, Mrs. Petrelli's concern was keeping her safe.

edit: keeping her away from their larger plan as well. good point, sentry.

[chris moore]

Candace impersonating Nathan makes perfect sense...

I think Peter would be better off dealing with being resposnible for his brother's death and not being comfortable with his powers... and being a dream guide. I think Sylar would be better off with Amnesia... (especially since he had that whole eye thing in the finale)... Peter could easily take up drinking, though...


Also I don't see why Linderman's healing would go away... Future Hiro's changes to time didn't go away when he died... when you change something, it's different.

Time travel is a different animal. I mean maybe Linderman's healing power requires him to be alive to provide the energy or something. Like Xavier's memory altering of Beast fading away when Xavier died over in Ult X-Men. Now he's dead, maybe the connection is broken and things will wear off.

Candice I think will replace Nathan (at Mama Petrelli's order), but only as a congressman to be their wolf in the fold of congress and the senate. That, I think is how we'll get Nathan's working behind the scenes to bring down the company - cos mama Petrelli can only assume that he died. Nathan now knows enough to know what kind of people are prepared to go to what kind of levels. If you found out that your mother was prepared to let a bomb go off and kill millions, then you wouldnt put anything past anybody now would you.

[Katsuro]

Time travel is a different animal. I mean maybe Linderman's healing power requires him to be alive to provide the energy or something. Like Xavier's memory altering of Beast fading away when Xavier died over in Ult X-Men. Now he's dead, maybe the connection is broken and things will wear off.

Candice I think will replace Nathan (at Mama Petrelli's order), but only as a congressman to be their wolf in the fold of congress and the senate. That, I think is how we'll get Nathan's working behind the scenes to bring down the company - cos mama Petrelli can only assume that he died. Nathan now knows enough to know what kind of people are prepared to go to what kind of levels. If you found out that your mother was prepared to let a bomb go off and kill millions, then you wouldnt put anything past anybody now would you.

that still doesn't make sense. He heals things, once the healing is done, he's not needed anymore. I see no reason why some kind of connection must be maintained and why his death would reverse it.

[chris moore]

Because its a superpower and we dont now how they work - you cant say it makes no sense that his death would fade any healing he had done because you cant see why it should require conscious effort; not unless you can explain how a man waves his hand or touches someone and heals anything about them. If its a healing "energy" then maybe his body constantly generates or processes that energy and the production of that energy is what sustains his "patients".

In the world of superpowers and comic books you cant really say something about a person's ability doesnt make sense. Thats like Superman seeing a dragon and going "but that's impossible - it must be a trick"

[Katsuro]

Because its a superpower and we dont now how they work - you cant say it makes no sense that his death would fade any healing he had done because you cant see why it should require conscious effort; not unless you can explain how a man waves his hand or touches someone and heals anything about them. If its a healing "energy" then maybe his body constantly generates or processes that energy and the production of that energy is what sustains his "patients".

In the world of superpowers and comic books you cant really say something about a person's ability doesnt make sense. Thats like Superman seeing a dragon and going "but that's impossible - it must be a trick"

Still, it's like saying that after Nikki dies everything she punches with superstrenght would go back to the way it was. Or everything Micah fixed would break again.

I guess it's possible in some way, but I dont think it's likely in the least bit. I feel it would be a pretty lame plot point if it happened.

And I hate the logic that just because somethings slightly unrealistic, that all of the sudden anything should be able to go without being considered unrealistic.

[Neptune]

Still, it's like saying that after Nikki dies everything she punches with superstrenght would go back to the way it was. Or everything Micah fixed would break again.

I guess it's possible in some way, but I dont think it's likely in the least bit. I feel it would be a pretty lame plot point if it happened.

And I hate the logic that just because somethings slightly unrealistic, that all of the sudden anything should be able to go without being considered unrealistic.

Amen! That would be really silly.

[darkseid26]

Mama-Papa Petrelli: Peter; Nathan-Meridith: Claire

Simone's father-?: Simone

Kensei........: Hiro's father-?: Hiro

DL-Nikki: Micah

Parkman-Janice: Matt, Jr

Suresh-Mama Suresh: daughter; Mohinder

did suresh's sister have powers?

[chris moore]

She may have had powers, but if she did, they were being blocked by the same condition Molly had. They may have been the same powers as Molly. Maybe thats specific to the condition.

[hippy fascist]

I'm so pumped for this.

I want to see peter go on a batman style quest to acheive true mastery over his powers. It'd be so badass if we just see him in training montages at various points in the season then have him stroll in for the final episode

"...oh sylar, I've been waiting for this moment for a LONG time"

:cool:

[boywonder13]

I think we will of course learn more about the group of heroes that joined togther along time ago which included Lindermna, Simone's dad, Peter's mom etc.

Hiro will have some adventure with kensei, or he is kensei?

Peter and Nathan will be back ofcourse. i see how they could both survive the blast.

I think Parkman is alive, what do u guys think?

[Avalanche]

B: Hiro's father is the reincarnation of Kensei. Which may in fact be his power. Every time he dies, he's reborn instantly.
I like this concept.

[Avalanche]

Now that Linderman is dead, will all his healing efforts become nullified (we, or Nathan havent seen Nathan's wife since just before DL killed Linderman)?
I don't see why that would be the case. I don't believe Linderman requires any kind of constant ability to keep people healed. He heals them, and then that's that. His power isn't one that requires constant exertion like, say, Candice when she has someone under an illusion.

[Frico]

Hope Vol. 2 steps it up a bit

Specially if we get Uluru. :up:

[Zipperedgorilla]

Can someone refresh my memory of who is Uluru? Is that Simone's father or someone completely different?

[Frico]

Here ya go

http://heroeswiki.com/Uluru

[Mysterio]

Can someone refresh my memory of who is Uluru? Is that Simone's father or someone completely different?
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11707615&postcount=11

[Zipperedgorilla]

Thanks for the info, it seems kinds stupid to be put into the show. I mean, it starts with people with powers and I think it should kinda stay that way, instead of being against a giant rock monster. It started like xmen, and with this it seems like it would head towards a power rangers theme. Of course it would be cool to see, but the chances are slim.

[Mysterio]

i think you should focus on the theme and the story behind Uluru. It's been part of the story from the beginning.

and i don't get the x-men thing. this show and the characters are nothing like the x-men except for the abilities being a result of genetic mutation.

[Zipperedgorilla]

Why would they lead a show to where it could be believable(the Xmen, number one mainly) people with extra-ordinary abilities to something that would be so abstract of an idea of a giant rock monster. To me, it would kill the story kind of like Lost did when they introduced the black smoke creature.

[Mysterio]

i still think you're missing it and focusing on an image rather than the idea and the myth behind the image.

[The Question]

Yeah. It's not simply a giant rock monster. It's tying the plot of the series into Aborigional Australian mythology.

[batnkevlar]

I wanna see a superpowered swordfight... man, swordfights are SO cool...

[TwilightPro101]

I'm very curious as to how Volume 2 is going to play out. Especially with the circumstances of this season.

[darkseid26]

what if uluru is like the first person to have abilitys out of the whole world.

just an idea.

[Neptune]

Is Uluru a character that was created in the Heroes universe?

[Pimpjuice16]

damn it i cant wait til next fall. i hate waitin

[Sugarculted]

Uh huh, it's too long :(

[Sentinel X]

If that is Uluru I really don't want to see him. This show should stay in reality, thats what made people love it so much in the first place and a big giant rock monster, Uluruu, doesn't seem interesting in the least to me

[Neptune]

Ok so mama Petrelli, papa Petrelli, Linderman, Kaito Nakamura and Charles were a sort of superhero team. Kaito told Hiro that some point some of them lost their way. What do you guys think that happened? It must have been something really horrible if Linderman won't even help out his old team mate and heal Charles.

[darkseid26]

Ok so mama Petrelli, papa Petrelli, Linderman, Kaito Nakamura and Charles were a sort of superhero team. Kaito told Hiro that some point some of them lost their way. What do you guys think that happened? It must have been something really horrible if Linderman won't even help out his old team mate and heal Charles.

i thinking that they split up, or some turned evil i think that linderman and mama petrelli wnet evil thats just my idea.

[Leto]

I think they've mentioned that they tried to help the world, but they weren't able to fix things on a global scale. Maybe one of them died or a "real" bad guy succeeded with his plans or maybe just the discovery that New York was going to explode and their different oppinions on what to do split them up.

[Zipperedgorilla]

If that is Uluru I really don't want to see him. This show should stay in reality, thats what made people love it so much in the first place and a big giant rock monster, Uluruu, doesn't seem interesting in the least to me

That's what I exactly said to the idea of having Uluru in the show. At least someone else agrees with me.

[web-head5]

do we have a premier date yet?

[Blai213]

Has anyone thought of this theory ?!??!?

Like Terminator 3, the future is set, but it can be delayed/postponed.

The explosion in NY, maybe this wasnt meant to happen so soon ... maybe they just delayed it for another season or something?

[Mysterio]

Has anyone thought of this theory ?!??!?

Like Terminator 3, the future is set, but it can be delayed/postponed.

The explosion in NY, maybe this wasnt meant to happen so soon ... maybe they just delayed it for another season or something?it was meant to happen the day after Nathan is elected.

[darkseid26]

it was meant to happen the day after Nathan is elected.


true dat.

[Zipperedgorilla]

it was meant to happen the day after Nathan is elected.

Maybe they meant his election to the white house. They said it would happen when he was elected, but they never said which election. Plot twist anyone?

[IAmHe9]

They won't play the 'stop the bomb from blowing up NY' card again. Bet on that.

And as I've said before, free will overcoming determinism is one of the major themes of the show. Having the explosion happen anyway would **** all over that.

[Neptune]

I wonder what kind of goal the new villain will have. I hope it's not world domination.

[Mysterio]

Maybe they meant his election to the white house. They said it would happen when he was elected, but they never said which election. Plot twist anyone?no, they didn't mean his election to the white house and yes they did say which election. at the very beginning of the series, when Hiro teleported to NY, Hiro saw the bomb go off. that happened on the day after the election. it was meant for that day. it was his actions after the bombing that would propel him into the white house.

[Zipperedgorilla]

Technically that was a bomb of a different future. Whoever foretold the bomb would go off with Nathan's election never said which one. The older group of "heroes" could still want the bomb to go off. They have a goal that they want done and they may still try to go through with it. Who says that a stupid idea like Uluru or what you or any others may say will happen next season. No one can.

I just want ot point out to everyone that the show may not follow the comics. This is a reason why fans always want the best translation from comics to movies, in this case a show, but this series started with the show and a comic was created from that. A thing like Uluru may look good on paper, but producers and networks may find it stray from the mainstream.

[Mysterio]

technically, you're overthinking it. that was the bomb and the bomb was planned for the day after Nathan's election to congress. this wasn't some random bomb; it was planned by Linderman, Petrelli, etc.

just because you don't understand what Uluru is, what it represents, how it's tied to the series (and it's been present since the very first episode), or even how it's going to be portrayed (if at all), doesn't make it stupid.

[GNR]

On top of the fact that they're exploring the secret society of heroes next season,the fact that the Petrelli Bros returning is becoming more likely,has me so excited.

[Zipperedgorilla]

I just dont see a towering monster in the show. It would make any type of realism the set up void. If they use Uluru in a dream sequence, I wont care, but if they introduce the idea of reviving some type of gigantic being from the earth, its just too much like a power rangers show.

[Mysterio]

you simply aren't paying attention and you refuse to listen.

[Zipperedgorilla]

How the hell am I not paying attention. There is little to no information on the Uluru subject and I am not refusing to listen. Why dont you add some input to this. You seem to base everything related to the comics or a picture still. If I'm not getting anything, why not inform me on it. Just stating something is based on Aboringal legends does not qualify for something to be true.

[Mysterio]

i've done nothing but give input and suggested that you explore the mythology of Uluru, the symoblism, etc. You are the one who is basing everything on one image. you are stuck in one little literal interpretation of a comic drawing - a "giant rock monster." you most certainly are refusing to listen. you voiced one idea long ago and continue to cling to it. when the writers have specifically directed people to explore aboriginal mythologies, then i would suggest that qualifies as being true. your last sentence is a prime example of your refusing to listen and pay attention.

[Zipperedgorilla]

First of all, I'm not refusing to listen. The way I see a legend of a land mass involved in battles and disappearances where blood was shed thousands of years ago, fine. But the Uluru (Ayers Rock) does not seem to associate to the Uluru rock monster that the created in the story. All I'm saying is that I would not like to see a giant rock being or spirit in the show. Revolve around the Ayers Rock formation, fine, I can deal with that. Peter and Sylar fighting on it would be cool.

I think some are going to indepth in the subject. Issac did write comic books, it could have been made before he even knew he had a power.

[Mysterio]

you just can't allow that it might not be a giant rock being. christ.

[Zipperedgorilla]

no, its a transformer.

[Caliber]

I wonder what kind of goal the new villain will have. I hope it's not world domination.

I hope they don't go that route but who knows what motivation the new villain will have. I just hope they don't have a villain who uses Magnetos motivation.

[darkseid26]

is the rock monster pic of uluru symbolism for a powerful being or hero or person with abilitys?

[Mysterio]

could be. no one knows.

[Deadpool876]

If Peter returns and it's a good chance he will, I hope he gets depowered or something because him having too much power is gonna make stories lame just as writers had trouble making good stories with Supes. Having him lost memory is a good idea, that would make him struggle with his powers again. And if he somehow learn to control his powers, I hope there's a limit to it; like he can only use 2 powers at the same time.

About Nathan, I think he should somehow survive the blast and return. How? Well, they have good writers, I'm sure they can think of something. And he just won the election! I think he needs to come back, the heroes will need a connection in the political arena.

And so what if his power is only flight? He doesn't need to be in a physical fight. He's a politician, that in itself is a power already...and don't forget, if a person's in politics, what else does he have aside from power? Yeah, lots of money:cwink:

[GL1]

Uluru is about Australian dream mythology... so to take anything involved with the character literally is kinda like... huh?

That said, as silly as it is, it's very natural to complain instead of learn, because people are used to dumbed-down TV that doesn't challenge their thinking, require them to be intelligent... people are used to having things spelled out for them, when a show requires that they learn, something no other show seems to do, they never see it and assume there's a problem with the show, when in fact, they're just talking about something you don't know about yet.

Is it just me, or is this show planned five years out?

As for Peter: Not only does he suck at controlling his powers, but he's super-guilty... I don't think he'll want to be near anybody, much less be some overpowered 'sueprhero' coming in to fix everything..

Finally... the bomb is done, Sylar is either powerless/amnesiatic/both, Peter is running away/angsty and Ted is dead. There is no more bomb.

[TwilightPro101]

That's an interesting angle, but it's hard to believe Peter would neglect what he can to do to help people.

[Sugarculted]

Is it just me, or is this show planned five years out?

As for Peter: Not only does he suck at controlling his powers, but he's super-guilty... I don't think he'll want to be near anybody, much less be some overpowered 'sueprhero' coming in to fix everything..

Finally... the bomb is done, Sylar is either powerless/amnesiatic/both, Peter is running away/angsty and Ted is dead. There is no more bomb.

Perhaps Claude can kick him into gear?

He best appear early in the second series.

[The_Beav]

I would chuckle if they cast Nichelle Nichols as Uluru.

I can hear the moans at the pun now.

[TwilightPro101]

Perhaps Claude can kick him into gear?

He best appear early in the second series.

Here's to hoping. There was too little Claude this year.

[S_H_F_4839]

something I would like to see is

when nathan flies peter up into the sky, we see peter realize what his brother is doing and kick himself away and activate a second ability to fly as far away from nathan as possible, and the strain of trying to fight the coming blast and getting clear from nathan be what causes him to explode, But nathan would take advantage of this opportunity to go under the radar, grow his hair out, grow a beard, maybe act homeless but keeping and eye on everything from the shadows, and see, the shapechanger interviewed on tv as him and laugh. He would get the idea that his wife now healed would be safer without him until the company is stopped completely.

[Antrax255]

Maya, a Hispanic woman in her mid 20s.
Kane, a recurring character who may become a possible regular. He is a man in his late 20s, referred to as an ageless American with a European feel. He is said to be a charming womanizer who has a soul that seems to be older than he appears to be.
Princess Keriyama, a recurring Japanese female character.
April, a gay cheerleader.
West, a charming 18-year-old who doesn't fit in much.
May, a mean high school cheerleader.
Georgie and Blackie, two Irish thieves.
Ricky, the thief ringleader who is about 45 years old.
Bob, a friendly 40-year-old mild-mannered man, who is said to be the "unassuming face of a very powerful organization".
Kincaid, a NYPD detective.
The second episode will introduce a new regular, Monica, a beautiful 28-year-old African-American. She is very kind to people and always thinks of others before taking care of herself. She will act as a surrogate for Niki's son.
Claire will be getting a sexy new boyfriend.
It is believed that most of these characters will only do arcs on the show rather than become regulars

[S_H_F_4839]

Maya, a Hispanic woman in her mid 20s.
Kane, a recurring character who may become a possible regular. He is a man in his late 20s, referred to as an ageless American with a European feel. He is said to be a charming womanizer who has a soul that seems to be older than he appears to be.
Princess Keriyama, a recurring Japanese female character.
April, a gay cheerleader.
West, a charming 18-year-old who doesn't fit in much.
May, a mean high school cheerleader.
Georgie and Blackie, two Irish thieves.
Ricky, the thief ringleader who is about 45 years old.
Bob, a friendly 40-year-old mild-mannered man, who is said to be the "unassuming face of a very powerful organization".
Kincaid, a NYPD detective.
The second episode will introduce a new regular, Monica, a beautiful 28-year-old African-American. She is very kind to people and always thinks of others before taking care of herself. She will act as a surrogate for Niki's son.
Claire will be getting a sexy new boyfriend.
It is believed that most of these characters will only do arcs on the show rather than become regulars

This many new characters has me nervous? how much time of the regulars are we going to have if we get a whole bunch of new people?

not sure if that technically is a spoiler but why reveal yours to those who don't want to know.

[Mysterio]

something I would like to see is

when nathan flies peter up into the sky, we see peter realize what his brother is doing and kick himself away and activate a second ability to fly as far away from nathan as possible, and the strain of trying to fight the coming blast and getting clear from nathan be what causes him to explode, But nathan would take advantage of this opportunity to go under the radar, grow his hair out, grow a beard, maybe act homeless but keeping and eye on everything from the shadows, and see, the shapechanger interviewed on tv as him and laugh. He would get the idea that his wife now healed would be safer without him until the company is stopped completely.:huh: Peter already realized what his brother was doing. that was pretty much the point of their conversation.

[GNR]

Either way,the 2 bros are coming back.

[S_H_F_4839]

:huh: Peter already realized what his brother was doing. that was pretty much the point of their conversation.

I was tired when I wrote that just trying to come up with something off the top of my head.

[TwilightPro101]

This many new characters has me nervous? how much time of the regulars are we going to have if we get a whole bunch of new people?

not sure if that technically is a spoiler but why reveal yours to those who don't want to know.

Everything will be balanced. Something they did superbly this year.

[Abaddon]

Everything will be balanced. Something they did superbly this year.

No, not really.:huh:

[S_H_F_4839]

I just am worried that we wont see any of the previous heros in the next season.

And we get some lame story about the whole cast going underground to hide from the company, while we have to watch a new bunch discover their abilities. Like some other poster said a rehash of this season.

[Avalanche]

I just am worried that we wont see any of the previous heros in the next season.

And we get some lame story about the whole cast going underground to hide from the company, while we have to watch a new bunch discover their abilities. Like some other poster said a rehash of this season.
They don't have that much reason to go underground. A couple of the major players in the company are dead, and the plan was thwarted. With Linderman gone who knows what might happen now.