*Official* Relationship Advice Thread

[DV8]

Post her pics here so we can further advise you. :up:

jag

http://a395.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/21/l_cd89d30cde21972d317422f3a44ff6d2.jpg

??? I like this rump :wow: :heart:

[jaguarr]

Bootylicious, DV8. Bootylicious!

jag

[Logan's Runt]

And she has tattoos. My kinda girl. :up:

[DV8]

she's basically a sex goddess . . . that booty has earned her that right . . . and you should see some of her other ink . . . it's really stellar

[The Original Bamfer]

And she has tattoos. My kinda girl. :up:

I'd watch.

[Erzengel]

She looks like a nice girl from a nice family.

[DV8]

^yes, I think that she's part apple judging by the shape of her pefectly symmetrical rump . . . very wholesome :up:

[Superman79]

^yes, I think that she's part apple judging by the shape of her pefectly symmetrical rump . . . very wholesome :up:

Like a good breakfast :D

[Ghostvirus]

Don't forget Army of Darkness.

Groovyyy.[/Ash]

http://a395.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/21/l_cd89d30cde21972d317422f3a44ff6d2.jpg

??? I like this rump :wow: :heart:

Holy sh**! Wanna Touch The Heiny!!!!

[The Joker_1000]

Goddamn that's a big booty.

[DV8]

the things I would do to that ass are outlawed in 40 states . . .

[Superman79]

the things I would do to that ass are outlawed in 40 states . . .

39...Texas overturned their sodomy statute :p

[aaron]

What do you mean sometimes.What you like guys too?

sometimes they annoy me

[aaron]

http://a395.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/21/l_cd89d30cde21972d317422f3a44ff6d2.jpg

??? I like this rump :wow: :heart:

thats a hot ass, but the tattoos are the clincher, man theyre hawt

[aaron]

39...Texas overturned their sodomy statute :p

anals not allowed in 39 states?

[AndThePickles]

Wow, I can't believe he posted that here lol.

Edit- Wait, nvm, I'd thought that she was someone one of you guys was considering dating lol.

[DV8]

Wow, I can't believe he posted that here lol.

Edit- Wait, nvm, I'd thought that she was someone one of you guys was considering dating lol.

haha, ooh pickles ;) you're so cute and ditsy sometimes :)

I done turnt this thread out . . . . :up:

[AndThePickles]

haha, ooh pickles ;) you're so cute and ditsy sometimes :)

I done turnt this thread out . . . . :up:

I have a problem of not reading thread history :o That is a very cute tush though.

[DV8]

I like how it made it on the top of its own page too :up: It deserves it . . .

[Superman79]

anals not allowed in 39 states?

it's a joke dude. And really it's only illegal in 3-4 states like Mississippi.

[aaron]

ohh, thats silly

[DV8]

superman79 knows from experience :(

cus he's a lawyer!! you dirty-minded perverts :o

[Superman79]

^^ LOL!!! Good one D!

[aaron]

a tip for any dude who wants to be surrounded by chicks his age regularly, take an english class;)

[Superman79]

a tip for any dude who wants to be surrounded by chicks his age regularly, take an english class;)

even better, in college...take Shakespeare courses or if you're really crazy: womens studies :woot:

[aaron]

they dig tattoos with shakespeare quotes too;)

[GoldenAgeHero]

for a moment i thought that was logan runt's ass.:(

[aaron]

i think runt probably has a tiny tush

[GoldenAgeHero]

i think she has an good ass, but not as plump as the chick in the pic.

[aaron]

that chicks a pornstar, belladonna

[GoldenAgeHero]

woah thats belladonna?! no way, last time i saw her she looked all used up.

[amazingfantasy15]

Not looking for advice, more just need to vent. So I went out with a girl, first date was the day after Christmas, we had a good time, just talking with each other over a few drinks, said we should go out again, later that night I emailed her saying what a great time I had, she emailed me back the next day saying she had a great time too and we chatted a little on IM. I called her on that Saturday and left a message, I knew she was busy during that weekend, but figured she'd still get back to me, but she didn't, normally I'd think well, things didn't work out, but she responded to my email and initiated the IM convo, so emailed her a couple days after New Years asking what's up. However, my office was moving and my internet was taken down shortly afterwards, so I couldn't check my email all day, got home and saw that she emailed me back, saying that she didn't get the message and her phone's been acting up, but if I was free we should go out tonight, obviously this didn't work out because I couldn't check email, as I was reading her email she texted me asking if I got the email, I called her up, explained about internet being down, but she was on her way home at the time, so had to cut the call short saying she'd call me later when she got home, no call, but an email the next morning explaining why she didn't, said we should go out next week as this weekend was busy. Got a hold of her Monday, both had long days and were kinda tired, talking we realized the only day over the next week we were both free was Sunday, agreed to go out Sunday, said I'd call her later in the week to figure out the finer details, called her Friday early evening, but didn't get her and left a voicemail that wasn't returned, called Sunday early afternoon, again no answer, left another voicemail, then a text message just to make sure in case her phone was acted weird again, she never called back. Left her an email this morning asking what's up and still haven't receiving anything back when usually she responded to emails pretty quickly. Can't understand what I did to piss her off that she'd just resort to ignoring me. Again, not really asking advice as I've done everything I really can do, just needed to vent.

I realize it's kind of a long story for just really one date, but everything between the first date and a couple days before the second date indicated she really did like me, which makes the second date not happening that much more confusing/frustrating.

[DV8]

Not looking for advice, more just need to vent. So I went out with a girl, first date was the day after Christmas, we had a good time, just talking with each other over a few drinks, said we should go out again, later that night I emailed her saying what a great time I had, she emailed me back the next day saying she had a great time too and we chatted a little on IM. I called her on that Saturday and left a message, I knew she was busy during that weekend, but figured she'd still get back to me, but she didn't, normally I'd think well, things didn't work out, but she responded to my email and initiated the IM convo, so emailed her a couple days after New Years asking what's up. However, my office was moving and my internet was taken down shortly afterwards, so I couldn't check my email all day, got home and saw that she emailed me back, saying that she didn't get the message and her phone's been acting up, but if I was free we should go out tonight, obviously this didn't work out because I couldn't check email, as I was reading her email she texted me asking if I got the email, I called her up, explained about internet being down, but she was on her way home at the time, so had to cut the call short saying she'd call me later when she got home, no call, but an email the next morning explaining why she didn't, said we should go out next week as this weekend was busy. Got a hold of her Monday, both had long days and were kinda tired, talking we realized the only day over the next week we were both free was Sunday, agreed to go out Sunday, said I'd call her later in the week to figure out the finer details, called her Friday early evening, but didn't get her and left a voicemail that wasn't returned, called Sunday early afternoon, again no answer, left another voicemail, then a text message just to make sure in case her phone was acted weird again, she never called back. Left her an email this morning asking what's up and still haven't receiving anything back when usually she responded to emails pretty quickly. Can't understand what I did to piss her off that she'd just resort to ignoring me. Again, not really asking advice as I've done everything I really can do, just needed to vent.

I realize it's kind of a long story for just really one date, but everything between the first date and a couple days before the second date indicated she really did like me, which makes the second date not happening that much more confusing/frustrating.

damn!! that blows . . . I don't think you 'pissed her off' at all, just maybe got a little tired of all the phone/email/text tag . . . it really sucks when that happens, especially when you feel like things were starting to click . . . it's also possible she might have been seeing some other dude on the same level as you, and maybe he got ahead :(

I wouldn't blow her off perse, but I would let her get back to you, and start scouting for some different hunnies . . .

[Erzengel]

If dating was easy, everyone would have no problems. Something is up with her probably, and it could be a whole host of problems, from sincere of her actually being really busy, or she's with some other dude. If any normal person, had plans for a date on Sunday, barring anything bad happening, most would at least call.

[Superman79]

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I realize it's kind of a long story for just really one date, but everything between the first date and a couple days before the second date indicated she really did like me, which makes the second date not happening that much more confusing/frustrating.

First off...paragraphs are our friend, i nearly went blind reading that... :D

Second...who knows, maybe she had a great excuse and will get back to you soon. Don't dwell on it though or it'll drive you nuts.

Third...if she really did start to ignore you, look at it this way, at least now you know what a flake she can be, and ask yourself honestly, do you really wanna be with a gal who can be that flaky and easily deterred.

Finally...you have my utmost sympathy for your frustration AF...sorry bro. :csad:

[DV8]

So DV8 has been kinda bringin the ruckus to the ladies :cool:

but I still haven't gotten laid in a while . . . need to step it up a bit more, but things are looking pretty good . . .

I went out on Saturday and to start off the night, I got this Mexican woman's phone number :up: forgot to ask if she was married though hahaha

I left that bar, to meet up w/ some friends, one of which is this girl that I'm kinda diggin on; she's kinda diggin on me too, but she's got a bf . . . . their relationship is on its last leg though . . . and long story short, we ended up making out a bit at the end of the night :cool:

also, this girl that I was steady trying to get with for a WHILE has been kinda sweatin me now that I don't try to make any advances . . . go figure; I'm really not holding my breath to see if anything happens sexually, but she has been asking me to do stuff on the weekends, including going out to brunch w/ her family . . . *shrug*

[amazingfantasy15]

damn!! that blows . . . I don't think you 'pissed her off' at all, just maybe got a little tired of all the phone/email/text tag . . . it really sucks when that happens, especially when you feel like things were starting to click . . . it's also possible she might have been seeing some other dude on the same level as you, and maybe he got ahead :(

I wouldn't blow her off perse, but I would let her get back to you, and start scouting for some different hunnies . . .

Oh, I'm not going to blow her off if she gets back to me, but the email is the last time I'm planning to reach out to her. I wouldn't mind if she said she was seeing someone else, as long as she just told me, it was only one date. Also I made sure to ask in the email "Is everything alright with you?", not laying any blame, again just need to know.

As for other "hunnies" my friend's girlfriend said she knew someone she thought would be good for me, told her I wanted to see what happened with this girl first, but will probably ask for her number this weekend.

[amazingfantasy15]

First off...paragraphs are our friend, i nearly went blind reading that... :D

Yeah, it was kinda all just one train of frustrated thought though, maybe I should edit it, but it'll be a couple pages back before long.

[DV8]

Oh, I'm not going to blow her off if she gets back to me, but the email is the last time I'm planning to reach out to her. I wouldn't mind if she said she was seeing someone else, as long as she just told me, it was only one date. Also I made sure to ask in the email "Is everything alright with you?", not laying any blame, just need to know.

As for other "hunnies" my friend's girlfriend said she knew someone she thought would be good for me, told her I wanted to see what happened with this girl first, but will probably ask for her number this weekend.

exactly . . . I generally go with a 3-strike/no contact rule . . . if she hasn't gotten back to me by then, screw her . . .

and yeah, I feel you on wanting her to just be upfront if she's dating someone else, but that's easier said than done . . .

anyway, good luck with your next conquest bro :up:

[Superman79]

As for other "hunnies" my friend's girlfriend said she knew someone she thought would be good for me, told her I wanted to see what happened with this girl first, but will probably ask for her number this weekend.

Never hurts to 'browse the store' a bit :D :up:

[Superman79]

exactly . . . I generally go with a 3-strike/no contact rule . . . if she hasn't gotten back to me by then, screw her . . .




That's the way to be :up:

[amazingfantasy15]

exactly . . . I generally go with a 3-strike/no contact rule . . . if she hasn't gotten back to me by then, screw her . . .

and yeah, I feel you on wanting her to just be upfront if she's dating someone else, but that's easier said than done . . .

anyway, good luck with your next conquest bro :up:

Yeah, I never go all stalkery, waste of time to chase someone who isn't interested, give her the chance to get back to me, but balls in her court now. Although if she takes too long, she might lose her chance.

[aaron]

woah thats belladonna?! no way, last time i saw her she looked all used up.

shes all punk and gothy and stuff right now

[tzarinna]

I fell in love for a couple of hours.
I'm over it now.

[Gilpesh]

I fell in love for a couple of hours.
I'm over it now.

Told you that cream would work.

[aaron]

I fell in love for a couple of hours.
I'm over it now.

emotion ****:o

[tzarinna]

On to the next obsession.

[Superman79]

I fell in love for a couple of hours.
I'm over it now.

" I'm all out of love, I'm so lost without you. I know you were right, believing for so long..." :woot::cwink:


:airsupply:

[Ghostvirus]

So I am browsin This Thread ("http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=293816), & I started to notice that the new woman that I have talked about that is also married has done 5 of the ten signs, so what the hell?

[DV8]

^that means she wants to bang you halfway . . . so only insert halfway in :up:

[Ghostvirus]

Ok got it. *drops pants, & runs out door* Wait, what if half way in for me is still all the way in for her?:ninja:

[Erzengel]

Some women do it involuntary, but I don't want to get into the whole subconscious thing here. She can also be doing it because she enjoys the attention and a bit of a c' tease. Or she's promiscuous.

[CorpusBlack]

Some women do it involuntary, but I don't want to get into the whole subconscious thing here. She can also be doing it because she enjoys the attention and a bit of a c' tease. Or she's promiscuous.

I'm going for 'she enjoys attention'.

[DV8]

Ok got it. *drops pants, & runs out door* Wait, what if half way in for me is still all the way in for her?:ninja:

well, half way in for you would pry only be like an eighth of the way in for her *ernie laugh*

[Ghostvirus]

So basically until you are actually lying in a bed naked with another woman. You never know exactly what they want?

[Ghostvirus]

well, half way in for you would pry only be like an eight of the way in for her *ernie laugh*

Funny.:hoboj:

[Gilpesh]

So basically until you are actually lying in a bed naked with another woman. You never know exactly what they want?

Even at that point, you won't know. :dry:

[DV8]

Gary Coleman is NOT amused

http://i10.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/d0/d3/3e99_1.JPG

[Superman79]

Even at that point, you won't know. :dry:

damn. beat me to it :csad:

[amazingfantasy15]

exactly . . . I generally go with a 3-strike/no contact rule . . . if she hasn't gotten back to me by then, screw her . . .

and yeah, I feel you on wanting her to just be upfront if she's dating someone else, but that's easier said than done . . .

anyway, good luck with your next conquest bro :up:

Well, she did email me back later in the day, guess a close friend's mom had to go to the hospital for cancer surgery and she was taking care of her friend's baby and didn't have her phone with her. She's also going to be staying with her friend this weekend and next week to help her out.

She also hit me with the fact that she's not totally over her ex-boyfriend, she doesn't want to get back with him, but also not sure she wants to be dating anyone yet, but would like to hang out with my as a friend. So somehow I got trapped in the friend's zone without even making a mistake that would put me there.

I did write her back, wished her friend's mom the best and that if she needed someone to talk to while staying with the friend to take her mind off things to give me a call. Also, to take her time and give me a call once she's ready to hang out again, not that I'm just gonna wait by the phone for her to call, but didn't want to just burn the bridge. So yeah, kinda sucks, lost the girl though a screwed up series of events and really no one's fault.

[Erzengel]

You did the best with the situation. You even left the ball in her court so that if she wants something she can call you. :up:

[Gilpesh]

damn. beat me to it :csad:

Yeah, encyclopedia dramatica is hilarious with their 'Almost Raped' page. One story is of that exact situation where a woman was naked with a guy... and runs away accusing him of almost rape.








Yeah, I look at encyclopedia dramatica.... :csad:

[DV8]

Well, she did email me back later in the day, guess a close friend's mom had to go to the hospital for cancer surgery and she was taking care of her friend's baby and didn't have her phone with her. She's also going to be staying with her friend this weekend and next week to help her out.

She also hit me with the fact that she's not totally over her ex-boyfriend, she doesn't want to get back with him, but also not sure she wants to be dating anyone yet, but would like to hang out with my as a friend. So somehow I got trapped in the friend's zone without even making a mistake that would put me there.

I did write her back, wished her friend's mom the best and that if she needed someone to talk to while staying with the friend to take her mind off things to give me a call. Also, to take her time and give me a call once she's ready to hang out again, not that I'm just gonna wait by the phone for her to call, but didn't want to just burn the bridge. So yeah, kinda sucks, lost the girl though a screwed up series of events and really no one's fault.

oh wow . . . ok, well I wouldn't worry about being stuck in the 'friend zone' or anything yet, man . . . the recently ex'd bf actually really makes a lot of sense now . . . you're basically still the next guy in line, she's just not ready to make any big moves right now . . . just kick it w/ her casually, not sweat her, and once she sees you for who you are, you might still get in them jeans :D :up:

at the same time, I would explore other options . . . nothing worse than trying to wait around for some action :down

[Gilpesh]

Well, she did email me back later in the day, guess a close friend's mom had to go to the hospital for cancer surgery and she was taking care of her friend's baby and didn't have her phone with her. She's also going to be staying with her friend this weekend and next week to help her out.

She also hit me with the fact that she's not totally over her ex-boyfriend, she doesn't want to get back with him, but also not sure she wants to be dating anyone yet, but would like to hang out with my as a friend. So somehow I got trapped in the friend's zone without even making a mistake that would put me there.

I did write her back, wished her friend's mom the best and that if she needed someone to talk to while staying with the friend to take her mind off things to give me a call. Also, to take her time and give me a call once she's ready to hang out again, not that I'm just gonna wait by the phone for her to call, but didn't want to just burn the bridge. So yeah, kinda sucks, lost the girl though a screwed up series of events and really no one's fault.

Yeah, you're stuck as a friend. Have fun with that.

[DV8]

You did the best with the situation. You even left the ball in her court so that if she wants something she can call you. :up:

exactly . . . he played the hand he was dealt to the best of his abilities . . . he's still got a real decent shot, IMO . . .

[amazingfantasy15]

You did the best with the situation. You even left the ball in her court so that if she wants something she can call you. :up:

Yeah, wasn't worth it to just burn the bridge, plus I could almost feel how bad she felt writing me that email and she responded very well to my email reply. Not exactly hopeful that anything will come of this, but never hurts to keep the window of opportunity open.

[Erzengel]

She may even call you, however, I wouldn't go out of my way to contact her unless she does that first.

[amazingfantasy15]

at the same time, I would explore other options . . . nothing worse than trying to wait around for some action :down

Oh yeah, I'm not gonna be sitting around waiting for her to call, my friend's girlfriend knows someone she thinks would be good for me, I plan on finding more info on that this weekend. If the one girl calls, that's cool, I'll hang out, but also keeping my options open.

[DV8]

^word up . . . how did you meet the other girl, btw?

[amazingfantasy15]

Yeah, you're stuck as a friend. Have fun with that.

Hey, there's nothing I can do to change that, why be a d*ck about it, she may have a hot friend that isn't in this weird place. There's no chance if I'm a d*ck, but being the good, caring, understanding guy, there's a small glimmer of hope. Obviously, that's not the sole reason I did it though, I don't want to pressure her into anything when she's in this weird place, let her sort her feelings out, I'd hate to have a nagging feeling that I "forced" her into any type of decision.

She may even call you, however, I wouldn't go out of my way to contact her unless she does that first.

Oh, I don't plan on calling her, balls in her court told her I'm there for her if she needs me, but I'm not putting any pressure on her.

[amazingfantasy15]

^word up . . . how did you meet the other girl, btw?

She sent me an email through Match.com, she thought she was ready to date again, but I think what really got her messed up was this thing with her friend's mom, she's really close to the friend.

[DV8]

^I see . . . cool man, you know what you're doing . . .

[amazingfantasy15]

^I see . . . cool man, you know what you're doing . . .

Hey, as I said originally, wasn't really looking for advice, just needed somewhere to vent my frustrations.

[Gilpesh]

Hey, there's nothing I can do to change that, why be a d*ck about it,

I'm not. Just pointing out the sign that she isn't interested. An old ex wouldn't matter if she was really interested.

[DV8]

I know, AF . . . DV8 knows

[Radiant Dawn]

Here we go again. Guy issues and me are like peanut buter and jelly...

This guy who tormented me since 3rd-4th grade suddenly asked me out this morning. Now, I used to like him, and a faint spark of that is still there, but I don't trust him. How it all happened was he asked me if him and I could hang out and do some homework sometime. I said probably not, since I get my homework done in school. He told me he didn't REALLY mean we do homework, he meant a date. I already had guessed this, but had been playing along. I told him that it was probably a trick (since he had been mean to me since we were little). He told me he's changed since elementary school. I said prove it. He asked me how. I told him he had to figure that out for himself. So, a few minutes later, he took the trash out for the substitute teacher. When he finished, I handed him a note with a picture of stairs with a sign that said "date" on the top stair and a little stick person with his name above it going up half a step.

What do you guys think? Should I give the guy a chance to prove himself? Or should I tell him to shove off?

[Master Chief]

lol!

Hvae him prove himself or whatever so you can draw a flipbook of a guy going up stairs, that'd be awesome.

[Ghostvirus]

So you feel that he redeemed himself by taking out the garbage for the teacher?

[Radiant Dawn]

So you feel that he redeemed himself by taking out the garbage for the teacher?

Certainly not. It did make him seem a teeny bit better in my eyes, hence the little stick figure only going up half a step. I drew about 20-30 stairs from the top to the bottom of the page.

[Ghostvirus]

What?

So you told him that you don't know what he can do to prove himself, & then you draw a picture that has a cryptic message in it?

Figure out what he needs to do to prove himslf, & then tell him straight up. Stop being cryptic.

[DV8]

judging by your video journals, Radiant Dawn, you should take whatever date you can get :o

[Radiant Dawn]

I'd just straight up tell him I'll go on the date, but I'm petrified it'll turn out to be a cruel joke.

[Master Chief]

Can't you scheme some shenanigans?

Or just like. Not show up?

[Drakon]

If you drew him a picture with like, a **** tonne of steps, and expects him to work for you, quite frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if he just asks some other chick out, who's less maintainence.

[Gilpesh]

Can't you scheme some shenanigans?

Or just like. Not show up?

Yeah, like make him super glue his hand to his face in class. Or his hand to someone else in the class.

[hammy]

Here we go again. Guy issues and me are like peanut buter and jelly...

This guy who tormented me since 3rd-4th grade suddenly asked me out this morning. Now, I used to like him, and a faint spark of that is still there, but I don't trust him. How it all happened was he asked me if him and I could hang out and do some homework sometime. I said probably not, since I get my homework done in school. He told me he didn't REALLY mean we do homework, he meant a date. I already had guessed this, but had been playing along. I told him that it was probably a trick (since he had been mean to me since we were little). He told me he's changed since elementary school. I said prove it. He asked me how. I told him he had to figure that out for himself. So, a few minutes later, he took the trash out for the substitute teacher. When he finished, I handed him a note with a picture of stairs with a sign that said "date" on the top stair and a little stick person with his name above it going up half a step.

What do you guys think? Should I give the guy a chance to prove himself? Or should I tell him to shove off?
Really it depends on how much you like him. If it's more curiosity than anything, I wouldn't mess with it. But if you actually like him, you could take a chance with the knowledge that he has been a dick to you in the past and he might still be one.

I had a tormentor. :woot: I thought he hated me. Turned out to be the love of my life. Good luck. :cwink:

[Radiant Dawn]

If you drew him a picture with like, a **** tonne of steps, and expects him to work for you, quite frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if he just asks some other chick out, who's less maintainence.

I'm not planning on having him do a WHOLE bunch, just a few little things to prove he's serious. Like not being really loud in class one whole school week. Simple stuff.

[Drakon]

Even so, you're making him have to work for you. That can really go two ways. If you're comfortable with that, then continue with your thing.

[Radiant Dawn]

I just want to know he's serious.

[Mister J]

They're all going to laugh at you.
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3113/pigsbloodhn2.png (http://imageshack.us)

[Drakon]

Which is kind of the point I'm getting across. There's plenty of other girls in that school who he wouldn't have to prove himself to, and like, he's looking for a date to like, the mall or something, not a life commitment, so why put the extra effort into something that won't really matter in the long run?

I'm not saying that's right, but being a teenage boy once, and knowing plenty of them both then and now, I kinda know how they think.

[Mister J]

The whole thing is needlessly complicated. If she wants to go out with him, then just go. If not, then don't. There's no way to magically figure out what the guy wants and this 'prove yourself' nonsense is just going to make him lose whatever interest he actually might have.

On the other hand RD, link him to a video blog. If he comes back for more, you've got a keeper. :up:

[DV8]

he pry really does want a date; acting the way he did in the past was pry just his way of expressing his 'feelings' for you, dawn . . .

[Ghostvirus]

judging by your video journals, Radiant Dawn, you should take whatever date you can get :o

Damn dude. I know it was a joke, but that was a little harsh.

If you drew him a picture with like, a **** tonne of steps, and expects him to work for you, quite frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if he just asks some other chick out, who's less maintainence.

That is what I was going to say, but I threw some sugar on it.

[PyroChamber]

Is is just me or does it seem like most, if not all, women have bad taste when it comes to men? I mean, we men can have bad taste also but at least some of us know when to get out of a relationship when it's getting bad.

This girl I work with always talks about her and her bf always get into bad arguements, but when I asked "if things are so bad, why are you still with him?" she said "I don't know, I love him I guess".

And it seems like they love like things in men that men don't really care much about, like tattoos and piercings and being tall, etc.

[Gilpesh]

Nice guy vs. *******.

That's always a fun topic.

[PyroChamber]

It's not really a nice guy vs. *******s thing, it's just that if a relationship is bad and unhealthy why do some women find it hard to get out of it, I mean how can you love someone that makes you miserable?

[Matrixo]

Alright, I started hanging out ALOT with this chick since I've known since freshmen year( now a sophomore) and I'm pretty sure I like her, but I think I'm in the friends zone. It's pretty obvious I like her, but IDK if she likes me or wtf. And some kid told me her dad told her she can't date people, which I respect, but I really want to know wtf to do... :huh:

[Gilpesh]

Alright, I started hanging out ALOT with this chick since I've known since freshmen year( now a sophomore) and I'm pretty sure I like her, but I think I'm in the friends zone. It's pretty obvious I like her, but IDK if she likes me or wtf. And some kid told me her dad told her she can't date people, which I respect, but I really want to know wtf to do... :huh:

Kill her dad. That's your only hope. Plus she'll never stop thinking of you and it will prove your attraction to her.... :dry:

Don't do that though. Just flat out ask her out?

It's not really a nice guy vs. *******s thing, it's just that if a relationship is bad and unhealthy why do some women find it hard to get out of it, I mean how can you love someone that makes you miserable?

Yeah, it's nice guy vs *******. I doubt the relationship would be bad if he was too nice or good for the girl.

Also, I love my parents. But on occasion....

[Matrixo]

Kill her dad. That's your only hope. Plus she'll never stop thinking of you and it will prove your attraction to her.... :dry:

Don't do that though. Just flat out ask her out?




Only thing holding me back from that, is if she says no and those really awkward US History and Spanish classes I have with WHICH I sit right next to her. :csad:

[Gilpesh]

Only thing holding me back from that, is if she says no and those really awkward US History and Spanish classes I have with WHICH I sit right next to her. :csad:

Fake your death and then get extensive plastic surgery so that you can be the new transfer student and not still have the stigma of her shooting you down... Or

You wait. And pay more attention to how she acts around you (but not doing it obviously, just try and notice things) and toward you and see if anything resembles the same attraction you have for her.



My bet is on the faking the death if rejection occurs. I bet no one can disagree with that. :dry:

[Harlekin]

Just suck it up and go for it.

If she says no, get over it or just change seats.

[strikezone89]

hey guys i have a question... there's this girl i've known for about 10 years but we were never close we were just friends.. now she wants to go out and see a movie.. but she only wants to see a "mushy" movie.. does that mean anything?

[aaron]

it means shes a girl

[Master Chief]

Only thing holding me back from that, is if she says no and those really awkward US History and Spanish classes I have with WHICH I sit right next to her. :csad:

If you're good friends and you ask in a way that makes it sound like you're cool about if she says no, it should be one of those things that can easily be left in the past. :sleepy:

[aaron]

but if she says no and you then proceed to run away, move school

[Anguissette1979]

hey guys i have a question... there's this girl i've known for about 10 years but we were never close we were just friends.. now she wants to go out and see a movie.. but she only wants to see a "mushy" movie.. does that mean anything?

1) She might just like mushy movies in which case she just wants company

2) She wants to show you how she thinks you should act were you together in which case it means something

I'm a non-chick-flick-loving female though so I really have no idea what attracts people to those movies... :o

[PyroChamber]

When you're trying to get with someone, when do you think is the right time to say "f*** it" and stop trying and move on to someone else?

[CrypticOne]

When you're trying to get with someone, when do you think is the right time to say "f*** it" and stop trying and move on to someone else?

I have been wondering that myself too.

[Gilpesh]

When you're trying to get with someone, when do you think is the right time to say "f*** it" and stop trying and move on to someone else?

When even if it is obvious you are after them, they pick someone else be it another person or one they were already with when you started.

[GoogleMe94]

talk to a girl that works at borders, i actually WENT UP to her while she was reafing a book (off hours i guess). introduced myself, she knows me from when i get coffee, i happen to get her name last time, and we talked for maybe close to an hour, then she got up and said it was close to 9 and wanted to head home and get somethin to eat. i got up with her and walked her out to her car almost, then went my way. thing is, she was kinda stiff the whole time. she didnt mention a BF, which was good, but when she was sitting in the chair, she wasnt faceing me, she was faceing kinda to the side the oppisite way. we only talked about little stupid things, jobs, movies, etc. but nothing big. to tell you the truth, she didnt seem interested. this was a first for me, cuz every girl i ever talk to seems like they would be interested (IF they didnt already have a BF) but this girl did not. im not bad looking i dont think, so i can see why girls would show interest, but this one didnt even mention a BF and still seemed a little stand offish. i wasnt bein a creepy or anything, i was just bein normal nice guy. however, now that i think about it, she might, MIGHT have been lesbian. im not sure at all, but now that i think about it she kinda had that way about her, i dont know if its true but i told someone i know a similiar thing and they said she could have possibly been gay, and i thought about it and i can kinda see it now, maybe? i dunno, but hell i gave it the best try i could. im certainly proud of myself. guys out there, dont be afraid! if you see a chance, take it! i did, and if this girl wasnt so weird (or possibly gay) i would habve probably had her. she didnt tell me she was, but thats what i got from it.

alright, heres another thing. i walk someplace, anywhere, the mall, my job, anywhere, and i will see a semi attractive girl, not perfect looking but just cute enough that you have to take a gander, and i see her with this puny ass scruffy skinny supersuperbaggy pants wherein idiot, some of them lookin like they live in a trailer park. now, im very confused by this, is this what girls like these days, guys that look like kid rocks little kid brother? its so odd. girls these days must have lost there taste or somethin. i can totally understand if the guy was a strapping, squarejawed tall guy who looked protective and kinda hunky, but these puny little pasty white dipsh**'s with there neo-nazi type crew cuts and/or our of this world hair styles? they look like total posers!! i dont get it. someone care to explain?

[PyroChamber]

Some women don't really have bad taste as much as just stupid taste, as men our taste is simple; all we want is an attractive woman that doesn't get on our nerves, or maybe that's just me.

[Gilpesh]

Pyro, you missed out the fact that they don't like douchebags... or people who automatically call them lesbians when they can't make any progress.

[Ghostvirus]

^LOL. Well put good sir. Well put.

[Golgo-13]

Some women don't really have bad taste as much as just stupid taste, as men our taste is simple; all we want is an attractive woman that doesn't get on our nerves, or maybe that's just me.

I think that's ALL men.

[hammy]

im certainly proud of myself. guys out there, dont be afraid! if you see a chance, take it! i did, and if this girl wasnt so weird (or possibly gay) i would habve probably had her. she didnt tell me she was, but thats what i got from it.

alright, heres another thing. i walk someplace, anywhere, the mall, my job, anywhere, and i will see a semi attractive girl, not perfect looking but just cute enough that you have to take a gander, and i see her with this puny ass scruffy skinny supersuperbaggy pants wherein idiot, some of them lookin like they live in a trailer park. now, im very confused by this, is this what girls like these days, guys that look like kid rocks little kid brother? its so odd. girls these days must have lost there taste or somethin. i can totally understand if the guy was a strapping, squarejawed tall guy who looked protective and kinda hunky, but these puny little pasty white dipsh**'s with there neo-nazi type crew cuts and/or our of this world hair styles? they look like total posers!! i dont get it. someone care to explain?

Yeah, her body language suggested she just wasn't in to you. She doesn't have to have a boyfriend or be gay to not be in to you. As for the girls who go for the pasty skinny guys, .. hey, they need love too. :D

[Gilpesh]

Yeah, her body language suggested she just wasn't in to you. She doesn't have to have a boyfriend or be gay to not be in to you. As for the girls who go for the pasty skinny guys, .. hey, they need love too. :D

Yeah, and as his story suggests.... the clinging on of 'walking' her out and almost to the car. Didn't help.

[Golgo-13]

I tend to find chubby girls hot, lately. :huh:

In fact i don't find skinny girls attractive AT all. Ever since Hollywood has revealled all these underweighters like Joile, Jenna jameson, Tyra Reid,etc i've been really turned off by slim women.

[PyroChamber]

Men don't have body language to show that we're into a woman do we?

[Gilpesh]

Men don't have body language to show that we're into a woman do we?

Everyone has body language. You're probably already giving off signs that you like them, especially if you're not noticing you can/are.

[Drakon]

Men don't have body language to show that we're into a woman do we?

Yes. It's called an erection.

[incubat]

Yes. It's called an erection.

lmao

BTW GoogleMe94, you really don't have a clue about women, do you?

[hammy]

Yes. It's called an erection.

:lmao:

I was thinking the same thing. :o

[GoogleMe94]

lmao

BTW GoogleMe94, you really don't have a clue about women, do you?


umm yes, i do. and believe me, this chick was weird. at first you only look on the outside, then you start to chat with them and they turn...weird on you. i dont mean normal weird, as in "i dont like you" weird, i mean, just strange. im not joking. she came off like.....a dyke. im not kidding. shes not even like a girly girl or anything, she struck me AFTERwards like maybe she was gay or something, im not saying this to defend myself, im saying this because i FELT that while talking to her. yeah i agree walking her out may have been stupid (well, it wasnt stupid for the LAST girl i saw..) but hey, i goofed up ONLY in that way. i know that ol' blue eyes would probably agree with me on that one. girls make you do dumb things. but i KNOW i did nearly everything right. this chick was just weird, and now that i think about it, she was too weird for me.

[Gilpesh]

Or maybe she was tired of douches hitting on her while she was trying to work or while she was on her break.


Why is the Greg Behrendt book title popping into my head? (He/She Just isn't that into you)

[Erzengel]

umm yes, i do. and believe me, this chick was weird. at first you only look on the outside, then you start to chat with them and they turn...weird on you. i dont mean normal weird, as in "i dont like you" weird, i mean, just strange. im not joking. she came off like.....a dyke. im not kidding. shes not even like a girly girl or anything, she struck me AFTERwards like maybe she was gay or something, im not saying this to defend myself, im saying this because i FELT that while talking to her. yeah i agree walking her out may have been stupid (well, it wasnt stupid for the LAST girl i saw..) but hey, i goofed up ONLY in that way. i know that ol' blue eyes would probably agree with me on that one. girls make you do dumb things. but i KNOW i did nearly everything right. this chick was just weird, and now that i think about it, she was too weird for me.

The fact that you followed her out to the car, strikes me as someone who doesn't read women that well. Sorry, and calling her "gay" reeks of sour grapes.

[Bill]

umm yes, i do. and believe me, this chick was weird. at first you only look on the outside, then you start to chat with them and they turn...weird on you. i dont mean normal weird, as in "i dont like you" weird, i mean, just strange. im not joking. she came off like.....a dyke. im not kidding. shes not even like a girly girl or anything, she struck me AFTERwards like maybe she was gay or something, im not saying this to defend myself, im saying this because i FELT that while talking to her. yeah i agree walking her out may have been stupid (well, it wasnt stupid for the LAST girl i saw..) but hey, i goofed up ONLY in that way. i know that ol' blue eyes would probably agree with me on that one. girls make you do dumb things. but i KNOW i did nearly everything right. this chick was just weird, and now that i think about it, she was too weird for me.


The whole "acting like a dyke" thing was developed by women to nicely brush off unwanted advances from guys who are under the impression they have more game than they actually do. She could have taken the direct approach and told you to get lost. But I doubt that that would have shaken your impression that she was a "dyke."

[GoogleMe94]

The whole "acting like a dyke" thing was developed by women to nicely brush off unwanted advances from guys who are under the impression they have more game than they actually do. She could have taken the direct approach and told you to get lost. But I doubt that that would have shaken your impression that she was a "dyke."


yep, your probably right. first off, i cant really explain it to you, you'd have to see her for yourself. and ive NEVER seen a girl act like that, and ive talked a lot of girls in the past. this was rather odd. when a girl doesnt like you, they all have a similiar way of showing it, no matter who they are. but this was not the case. this was weird.

[PyroChamber]

Sometimes you just have to say "well f*** you then!" and move on. It shouldn't matter if she was a "dyke" or not, if she wasn't interested then just find another woman.

[Gilpesh]

yep, your probably right. first off, i cant really explain it to you, you'd have to see her for yourself. and ive NEVER seen a girl act like that, and ive talked a lot of girls in the past. this was rather odd. when a girl doesnt like you, they all have a similiar way of showing it, no matter who they are. but this was not the case. this was weird.

It could also be your persistence that irked her. Here you are on the internet still trying to keep it going with everyone just saying, "She didn't like you, move on."

[GoogleMe94]

yeah, that how im takin it. that or shes gay. either way "movie along, movie along", lol. plenty to choose from, its her loss. and theres this girl i used to know from this store i worked at. she left that store and starting working at this little cafe close by. i would visit once in a while, but at firsti thought she liked me but not in that way, so i paid her no mind. then, i hadnt gone in for about a month, i walk in a few days ago and she almost trips over herself shes so happy to see me and is all like HII! really glad to see me, i was pretty shocked, because i thought she wasnt really nuts about me, but i guess the trick is to wait a while and THEN show up. i think you have to give the girls time apart, even if your just friends or aquaintences, you just stay away for a time, and then they start to miss you, and when you walk in you see how happy they are to see you, especially if they already knew you from working together. so we talked a bit before she went back to work, but i think this could be the start of something nice. but its a game. you have to act like your not desperate or anything, you have to play it cool and give it time.

[Superman79]

yeah, that how im takin it. that or shes gay. either way "movie along, movie along", lol. plenty to choose from, its her loss. and theres this girl i used to know from this store i worked at. she left that store and starting working at this little cafe close by. i would visit once in a while, but at firsti thought she liked me but not in that way, so i paid her no mind. then, i hadnt gone in for about a month, i walk in a few days ago and she almost trips over herself shes so happy to see me and is all like HII! really glad to see me, i was pretty shocked, because i thought she wasnt really nuts about me, but i guess the trick is to wait a while and THEN show up. i think you have to give the girls time apart, even if your just friends or aquaintences, you just stay away for a time, and then they start to miss you, and when you walk in you see how happy they are to see you, especially if they already knew you from working together. so we talked a bit before she went back to work, but i think this could be the start of something nice. but its a game. you have to act like your not desperate or anything, you have to play it cool and give it time.

Ok man, here's my two cents:

1) Paragraphs are our friend...they make it easier to read everything without going blind :up: ;)

2) About the supposed "dyke": Some girls just aren't interested. They could be single, yes, and I'm sure there is nothing wrong with you, you just weren't her type, and it sounds a little bad when you bring up a "dyke" possibility...I'd just drop the subject altogether. Just find a gal who is interested and rock that :D

3) You are on to something with your thought in 'play it cool'...but one other mild suggestion...from the look of the last few posts, it seems you have a tendency for over-analysis. (Take it from a guy who majored in over-analysis) best advice I can give you...just roll with it and try not to analyze things too much, for you're own good, otherwise you run the risk of driving yourself nuts.

Those things said, best of luck on the ole prowl :up:

[amazingfantasy15]

The fact that you followed her out to the car, strikes me as someone who doesn't read women that well. Sorry, and calling her "gay" reeks of sour grapes.

C'mon man, if a girl isn't interested in someone like GoogleMe, the only reason for that has to be that she's gay.

[Gilpesh]

C'mon man, if a girl isn't interested in someone like GoogleMe, the only reason for that has to be that she's gay.

I think we've completely established that fact. Clearly he is knee-deep in vay-jay and the example of perfection all men should follow.

[Superman79]

Ok, so there is this attractive committee clerk at work. Whenever she looks at me she rubs her crotch-al region and winks. Do you think she likes me?? Should I ask her out?? Or is it just feminine itch?? Huh?? Huh?? Whatdoyathink??????









:p Sorry...I just had to come up with something to bump this thread...

[ShadowBoxing]

Ok, so there is this attractive committee clerk at work. Whenever she looks at me she rubs her crotch-al region and winks. Do you think she likes me?? Should I ask her out?? Or is it just feminine itch?? Huh?? Huh?? Whatdoyathink??????

I dunno, this sounds like some horrid STD story waiting to happen.

[Superman79]

I dunno, this sounds like some horrid STD story waiting to happen.

lol...I thought it might garner some attention...I went for amusing yet mildly plausible. :D

[Gilpesh]

Ok, so there is this attractive committee clerk at work. Whenever she looks at me she rubs her crotch-al region and winks. Do you think she likes me?? Should I ask her out?? Or is it just feminine itch?? Huh?? Huh?? Whatdoyathink??????

Go for it, man. Live now! And with your skills if she turns you down, she's obviously a lesbo. Trust me, I know womens. Cause I'm a pimp. The one that don't want you are lesbos.

Now go out there and be someone!

[aaron]

she obviously has crabs, stay clear

[Ghostvirus]

Just to clarify for future reference. It is customary to wear ones wedding band on the left hand right?

[amazingfantasy15]

Just to clarify for future reference. It is customary to wear ones wedding band on the left hand right?

Yeah, you've really gotta start looking for this man. That's one of the first things I check, discretely glance at the left hand, if there's a ring there, I don't even bother.

[Superman79]

Just to clarify for future reference. It is customary to wear ones wedding band on the left hand right?

You're kidding right??? :dry:

[Superman79]

Yeah, you've really gotta start looking for this man. That's one of the first things I check, discretely glance at the left hand, if there's a ring there, I don't even bother.

Damned finger cancer :( :cmad:

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah, you've really gotta start looking for this man. That's one of the first things I check, discretely glance at the left hand, if there's a ring there, I don't even bother.
You don't "off" the husband:huh:

[amazingfantasy15]

You don't "off" the husband:huh:

Most likely leads to jail time and sure I'll be getting some action there, but not the kind of action I want.

[Ghostvirus]

You're kidding right??? :dry:

Man there a lot of new age sh**. Like the fact that if you share stuff with another person other than your spouse then that can be considered cheating to some.:dry:

I just wanted to make sure there wasn't something I was privy to.

[ShadowBoxing]

Not if they don't find the body, geez. Kids these days don't want to put the work in to tastefully kill someone and take their girlfriend or spouse :rolleyes:

[Superman79]

Man there a lot of new age sh**. Like the fact that if you share stuff with another person other than your spouse then that can be considered cheating to some.:dry:

I just wanted to make sure there wasn't something I was privy to.

Wow...I'm curious what sort of psycho has that tight definition of cheating.

And yes GV, if there is any sort of ring on the left ring finger, best just to walk away.

[amazingfantasy15]

Not if they don't find the body, geez. Kids these days don't want to put the work in to tastefully kill someone and take their girlfriend or spouse :rolleyes:

I'm not Drew Peterson and don't have the cash for a defense team like OJ's, those CSI guys will find me I know it. There's plenty of single women out there.

[Superman79]

I'm not Drew Peterson and don't have the cash for a defense team like OJ's, those CSI guys will find me I know it. There's plenty of single women out there.

"A man can run, but he can't hide..." :grissom:

**Cue theme song by 'The Who'**

:D

[Ghostvirus]

Wow...I'm curious what sort of psycho has that tight definition of cheating.

And yes GV, if there is any sort of ring on the left ring finger, best just to walk away.

I don't know, I saw it on Dr. Phi..... I mean I heard it some where. Some place very manly.:o


Is there any reason why a woman would be wearing a wedding band one day, & not one the next time I see them? Besides the obvious, are there any other reasons.

[Superman79]

I don't know, I saw it on Dr. Phi..... I mean I heard it some where. Some place very manly.:o


Is there any reason why a woman would be wearing a wedding band one day, & not one the next time I see them? Besides the obvious, are there any other reasons.

um...they were doing something when you saw them that they didn't want getting their ring dirty, or they had to wear rubber gloves, or they were working out...there could be many legit reasons. Point being, if it's there once, it'll be there again.

Find a girl sans finger cancer.

[Gilpesh]

talk to a girl that works at borders, i actually WENT UP to her while she was reafing a book (off hours i guess). introduced myself, she knows me from when i get coffee, i happen to get her name last time, and we talked for maybe close to an hour, then she got up and said it was close to 9 and wanted to head home and get somethin to eat. i got up with her and walked her out to her car almost, then went my way. thing is, she was kinda stiff the whole time. she didnt mention a BF, which was good, but when she was sitting in the chair, she wasnt faceing me, she was faceing kinda to the side the oppisite way. we only talked about little stupid things, jobs, movies, etc. but nothing big. to tell you the truth, she didnt seem interested. this was a first for me, cuz every girl i ever talk to seems like they would be interested (IF they didnt already have a BF) but this girl did not. im not bad looking i dont think, so i can see why girls would show interest, but this one didnt even mention a BF and still seemed a little stand offish. i wasnt bein a creepy or anything, i was just bein normal nice guy. however, now that i think about it, she might, MIGHT have been lesbian. im not sure at all, but now that i think about it she kinda had that way about her, i dont know if its true but i told someone i know a similiar thing and they said she could have possibly been gay, and i thought about it and i can kinda see it now, maybe? i dunno, but hell i gave it the best try i could. im certainly proud of myself. guys out there, dont be afraid! if you see a chance, take it! i did, and if this girl wasnt so weird (or possibly gay) i would habve probably had her. she didnt tell me she was, but thats what i got from it.

Well.... my friend sent me something that made me think of that exchange.

m75g_A731q0

Bet that lady at the movies is a lesbian. :whatever:

[Ghostvirus]

I would like yet another opinion on something. This isn't about relationship persay, but it about the same person I have talked about, but it isn't what you think. I would like to just know what you think. Here goes

Basically now that I have found out that Pharmacygirl is married. I am now frustrated about not knowing exactly what this is. So I am thinking about next week asking her what exactly is going on. Are we friends, Aquantances(sp?), or is she just being nice because she thinks I am retarded do to my quietness.

I am just tired of not knowing how to act around her, or what is acceptable, & what isn't. For instance she has gotten fascinated with the weather, & she heard that if you look at the pit of a persimmon you can tell if winter will be harsh or not. She hasn't gotten a persimmon yet, so I was thinking the next time I come in I will bring one. But I don't know if that is kosher or not. I am just tired of not knowing where the line is.

[Erzengel]

I think you are trying to force a "relationship". You want to label your relationship with someone that you haven't even met outside the Pharmacy. That's not really friends. You 2 don't hang out, you 2 don't talk to each other over the phone or even over the internet.

I would say you were just friendly acquaintances.

Your problem, is that you seem too hung up on here. I think you really want some sort of back and forth with her and honestly, she should just be the pharmacy girl. You go there, get your medicine and leave. Make small talk and that's it. But you want to bring her things and while you may be fooling yourself saying, we're friends yadda, yadda, it's so evident you have really romantic feelings for her.

[Ghostvirus]

That is just it. I honestly feel like this person is trying to connect. Not necassarily in a romantic way, but honestly wants to be friends. She invited me to come to her church, which I know isn't exactly asking me personally to do something, but it's still something that she is a part of outside the default area.

I have also lended her a book. That she didn't seem to have a problem accepting. This all goes a little bit further than a consumer/seller deal. Do I still have romantic feelings? Absolutely, but that is my problem not hers. I have been very careful not to express, or show these feelings at all. Which I think has made me look like a douche at times.

But if there is a potential for a friendship. I don't want to ruin it because I am making assumptions. I am worried that I am intentionally putting a rift somewhere there shouldn't be.

How ever after giving it some thought. Asking her what "this" is, would be putting her on the spot, & isn't really fair. Any type of relationship happens naturally. You can't force it.

So what I am going to do is bring the persimmon, & hope that if I over step any bounds. That she will call me on it.

[CrypticOne]

Alright, this girl I have liked for the past three years, asked me to get her napkins, when she had her lunch tray. That mean anything, or am I a dumba**?

[Ghostvirus]

Congratulations you are only the millionth person to use a variation of that joke.:whatever:

[CrypticOne]

Congratulations you are only the millionth person to use a variation of that joke.:whatever:

No, seriously. It's not a joke. She knows I like her too, so was she just using that, cause she knew I'd get her napkins or something?

[Ghostvirus]

In the context that you are putting it. I would say she just wants napkins.

[Erzengel]

That is just it. I honestly feel like this person is trying to connect. Not necassarily in a romantic way, but honestly wants to be friends. She invited me to come to her church, which I know isn't exactly asking me personally to do something, but it's still something that she is a part of outside the default area.

I have also lended her a book. That she didn't seem to have a problem accepting. This all goes a little bit further than a consumer/seller deal. Do I still have romantic feelings? Absolutely, but that is my problem not hers. I have been very careful not to express, or show these feelings at all. Which I think has made me look like a douche at times.

But if there is a potential for a friendship. I don't want to ruin it because I am making assumptions. I am worried that I am intentionally putting a rift somewhere there shouldn't be.

How ever after giving it some thought. Asking her what "this" is, would be putting her on the spot, & isn't really fair. Any type of relationship happens naturally. You can't force it.

So what I am going to do is bring the persimmon, & hope that if I over step any bounds. That she will call me on it.
If you had a gf, you wouldn't even be bothering with this. That should kind of tell you something.

[turtlefocker]

napkins is code for sex, don't **** this up man.

[CrypticOne]

napkins is code for sex, don't **** this up man.

HAHA! OMG! Dude, I busted up laughing reading this. Good one!

[Ghostvirus]

If you had a gf, you wouldn't even be bothering with this. That should kind of tell you something.

I certainly hope not. I really enjoy talking with her. I would hope that once I find a GF. The only thing that happens is I would stop having feelings for her.

[Fran]

napkins is code for sex, don't **** this up man.

Hahaha :woot:

[Fran]

I certainly hope not. I really enjoy talking with her. I would hope that once I find a GF. The only thing that happens is I would stop having feelings for her.

It's real hard to do that, especially if you like her a ton.

I have a girlfriend now who I adore greatly, and it took me a while (even a little after we started dating) to let go of this one girl I really liked... took her out to prom and everything.

[Erzengel]

I certainly hope not. I really enjoy talking with her. I would hope that once I find a GF. The only thing that happens is I would stop having feelings for her.

That's fine but you are investing too much time into this girl. Lend her a book, talk to her, but for goodness sake, get over her already

[Ghostrider87]

It's not really a nice guy vs. *******s thing, it's just that if a relationship is bad and unhealthy why do some women find it hard to get out of it, I mean how can you love someone that makes you miserable?

If the woman has low self esteem it may be hard for her to get out of the relationship, the guy will still go after her even if she does leave him, or the longer the woman is involved with man the harder it is for the woman to get out of the relationship.

[ShadowBoxing]

Oh, God

[jaguarr]

That is just it. I honestly feel like this person is trying to connect. Not necassarily in a romantic way, but honestly wants to be friends. She invited me to come to her church, which I know isn't exactly asking me personally to do something, but it's still something that she is a part of outside the default area.

I have also lended her a book. That she didn't seem to have a problem accepting. This all goes a little bit further than a consumer/seller deal. Do I still have romantic feelings? Absolutely, but that is my problem not hers. I have been very careful not to express, or show these feelings at all. Which I think has made me look like a douche at times.

But if there is a potential for a friendship. I don't want to ruin it because I am making assumptions. I am worried that I am intentionally putting a rift somewhere there shouldn't be.

How ever after giving it some thought. Asking her what "this" is, would be putting her on the spot, & isn't really fair. Any type of relationship happens naturally. You can't force it.

So what I am going to do is bring the persimmon, & hope that if I over step any bounds. That she will call me on it.

Be careful. A lot of churches use their younger female members to lure in new members. You very much could just be being recruited for the church. I know the Mormons do this, for example.

jag

[Superman79]

If the woman has low self esteem hard for her to get out, the guy will still go after her, or the longer the woman is involved with man the harder it is to get out.

wait...wha-huh??? :huh::huh:

[ShadowBoxing]

Be careful. A lot of churches use their younger female members to lure in new members. You very much could just be being recruited for the church. I know the Mormons do this, for example.

jag
Really. That's funny. Kind of explains that tour I took in Utah. Also explains this friend I had in Boston who converted to Mormonism over this girl he liked...but didn't end up dating.

[jaguarr]

Really. That's funny. Kind of explains that tour I took in Utah. Also explains this friend I had in Boston who converted to Mormonism over this girl he liked...but didn't end up dating.

Yeah, they really do. They train the girls to find unsuspecting boys/young men who aren't Mormon and sort of lead them on enough to get them to start coming to church where they're greeted with open arms and treated like long lost family and the indoctrination begins. By the time they figure out the thing with the girl just isn't going to work out, they're already in too deep into the brainwashing process. Sometimes those girls keep their catch, but most of the time it's catch and release. Very evil if you ask me.

jag

[Superman79]

Yeah, they really do. They train the girls to find unsuspecting boys/young men who aren't Mormon and sort of lead them on enough to get them to start coming to church where they're greeted with open arms and treated like long lost family and the indoctrination begins. By the time they figure out the thing with the girl just isn't going to work out, they're already in too deep into the brainwashing process. Sometimes those girls keep their catch, but most of the time it's catch and release. Very evil if you ask me.

jag

Thats where I'm glad we Catholics do it right: conversion by sheer violence!! ;) :p

:crusades: :inquisition: :oldrazz:

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah, they really do. They train the girls to find unsuspecting boys/young men who aren't Mormon and sort of lead them on enough to get them to start coming to church where they're greeted with open arms and treated like long lost family and the indoctrination begins. By the time they figure out the thing with the girl just isn't going to work out, they're already in too deep into the brainwashing process. Sometimes those girls keep their catch, but most of the time it's catch and release. Very evil if you ask me.

jag
Sounds like it. The girls are my tour were "cute as a button" cute, luckily I don't go for cute really. The funny thing about them is they are very engaging and social, but if you try to make small talk or ask them anything not related to being a Mormon they get very unnerved. Apparently asking a girl "so what do you do for fun around this place" and "where do you hang around town" is way too personal and totally means I want to corrupt your fragile mind:whatever: .

[jaguarr]

Thats where I'm glad we Catholics do it right: conversion by sheer violence!! ;) :p

:crusades: :inquisition: :oldrazz:

LOL! Catholics try to SCARE everyone into believing. Other churches are a bit more seductive about the whole thing. The Mormons aren't the only ones who do it; not by a long shot.

Sounds like it. The girls are my tour were "cute as a button" cute, luckily I don't go for cute really. The funny thing about them is they are very engaging and social, but if you try to make small talk or ask them anything not related to being a Mormon they get very unnerved. Apparently asking a girl "so what do you do for fun around this place" and "where do you hang around town" is way too personal and totally means I want to corrupt your fragile mind:whatever: .

Yeah, that sounds like a recruiting mission to me.

jag

[Ghostvirus]

Be careful. A lot of churches use their younger female members to lure in new members. You very much could just be being recruited for the church. I know the Mormons do this, for example.

jag

If she is, she is really bad at it. She didn't mention a Church until like 2 years after we've started talking.

[Ghostrider87]

wait...wha-huh??? :huh::huh:

I was answering pyrochambers question.

[Superman79]

I was answering pyrochambers question.

Yeah, but I was wondering if you could answer with actual english grammatical construction.

[Ghostrider87]

Yeah, but I was wondering if you could answer with actual english grammatical construction.

I did answer with actual grammar.

[jaguarr]

If she is, she is really bad at it. She didn't mention a Church until like 2 years after we've started talking.

Either that or she's really, really good at what she does and invests a lot of time and effort in her marks. ;)

jag

[Ghostvirus]

Either that or she's really, really good at what she does and invests a lot of time and effort in her marks. ;)

jag

Doubtful, but I think I have a sinking feeling I know what is going on. I won't know until a week & a half from now. I hope I am wrong.:csad:

[jaguarr]

What do you think is really going on?

jag

[Superman79]

I did answer with actual grammar.

notsomuch :csad:

[Ghostrider87]

It really doesn't matter because I still answered the question.

[Superman79]

It really doesn't matter because I still answered the question.

Sure it does, because the answer is useless if he can't understand it.

[Ghostrider87]

If the woman has low self esteem it may be hard for her to get out of the relationship, the guy will still go after her even if she does leave him, or the longer the woman is involved with man the harder it is for the woman to get out of the relationship.

Sure it does, because the answer is useless if he can't understand it.

I am pretty sure he can understand the answer, and it's easy for you to criticize since you didn't give an answer.

[Dorian Gray]

Doubtful, but I think I have a sinking feeling I know what is going on. I won't know until a week & a half from now. I hope I am wrong.:csad:

...Turn the tables, lure her to our side....:yay:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/dorian23/050411_darthVader_hmed2_3p_hmedium.jpg

[Ghostvirus]

What do you think is really going on?

jag

Its complicated, & I could be wrong. So I would rather not say, because it would require a very long, & very open explanation. If I am right then I will bust out all that.

[jaguarr]

Its complicated, & I could be wrong. So I would rather not say, because it would require a very long, & very open explanation. If I am right then I will bust out all that.

You mean....she's really a lesbian Nazi hooker nun that was kidnapped by UFO's and forced into a weight loss program! :eek:

jag

[Superman79]

You mean....she's really a lesbian Nazi hooker nun that was kidnapped by UFO's and forced into a weight loss program! :eek:

jag


I hate when that happens :csad:

[Ghostvirus]

No silly. She isn't a nun.

[Superman79]

No silly. She isn't a nun.

Don't make me go all Spanish Inquisition on your ass!!! :cmad:

[jaguarr]

No silly. She isn't a nun.

Anymore...

:o

jag

[Ghostvirus]

Don't make me go all Spanish Inquisition on your ass!!!



BRING IT!!!:cmad:*pulls out kryptonite*

[Ice-man]

edit*

[Erzengel]

Doubtful, but I think I have a sinking feeling I know what is going on. I won't know until a week & a half from now. I hope I am wrong.:csad:
Either way, you are going a long way trying to make this girl your friend. :huh:

[amazingfantasy15]

Is GhostVirus still talking about Pharmacy Girl? Let it go! Try to find a girl that isn't married! You live in a college town, find some college chick! IU has a bunch of really good looking girls!

[SLVRSR4]

Be careful. A lot of churches use their younger female members to lure in new members. You very much could just be being recruited for the church. I know the Mormons do this, for example.

jag

There is this Mormon girl that isn't allowed to date out of her church. I'm the anti-christ and it is so difficult to not talk about religion. With it being that important to her I gave up and now plot to murder this guy that does go to her church. THis guy is pulling an act that I can't pull, so now I hate him.:csad:

[Ghostvirus]

Either way, you are going a long way trying to make this girl your friend. :huh:

I am not trying to do anything. I am just trying not to cross the line. I have never had a girl I was just friends with. Especially one that is married. I don't wanna make things weird. Or more weird.

[Erzengel]

Is it really that important to make this girl your friend? I mean you hardly know this girl in a social setting and you want to facilitate some sort of relationship even a friendship with her?

I just don't know why you can't just let it be? Talk to her at the pharmacy and that's it.

[Superman79]

^ Seconded.

[Ghostvirus]

Is it really that important to make this girl your friend? I mean you hardly know this girl in a social setting and you want to facilitate some sort of relationship even a friendship with her?

I just don't know why you can't just let it be? Talk to her at the pharmacy and that's it.


What is so wrong with me wanting to get to know her more? I am just wanting to get simple advice, so that I don't cross the line. In the small amount of time i spend with her each month. She is fun to be around. What is so wrong with wanting a person like that in your life, no matter whether it is a friend, or other?

[Superman79]

What is so wrong with me wanting to get to know her more? I am just wanting to get simple advice, so that I don't cross the line. In the small amount of time i spend with her each month. She is fun to be around. What is so wrong with wanting a person like that in your life, no matter whether it is a friend, or other?

Its not that you wanna be buddies, its because its fairly obvious to the outside observer that you are still deep into this chick...and not in a good way. Most guys who just wanted her to be a 'buddy' would be happy seeing her on occasion at the pharmacy and making smalltalk and leaving well enough alone.

On the other hand, you my friend, are obsessing about how to talk/act around this girl like the majority of guys obsess about talking to the girl of their dreams in an attempt to get a date. Essentially, we can pick up that this still isn't a friend thing for you...as much as you might tell yourself it is.

I'm not trying to be harsh here, but man, WALK AWAY. Just move on and find yourself a girl to chase that isn't married. Don't worry about this girl 'in your life'. It'd be different if you were talking about some girl you grew up with that you've known for years or whatnot, but this is a woman you've made small talk with in the pharmacy where she works...let it go man, seriously, for your own mental and emotional well being...LET IT GO.

[Ghostvirus]

I know.:csad:

I just wish she had mentioned she was married much earlier. I could have u-turned much better, but there is years of built up emotions that I can't seem to shake. It really sucks.

I am moving on. I mean if I were to be asked out tomorrow by a woman, then I wouldn't say no. I have also scoped out some honeys, but didn't get anywhere. I just chan't get this other woman out of my f-ing head. It really sucks!

[jaguarr]

I know.:csad:

I just wish she had mentioned she was married much earlier. I could have u-turned much better, but there is years of built up emotions that I can't seem to shake. It really sucks.

I am moving on. I mean if I were to be asked out tomorrow by a woman, then I wouldn't say no. I have also scoped out some honeys, but didn't get anywhere. I just chan't get this other woman out of my f-ing head. It really sucks!

She's married. To someone else. Get over it.

jag

[Ghostvirus]

That is very constructive of you.

[jaguarr]

That is very constructive of you.

It's the absolute best advice on the subject you're ever going to get, dude.

jag

[Ghostvirus]

Ok, well considering I haven't been able to get a woman yet, so that I can get over her. What are some other techniques that I can use? I have tried a lot of stuff, & it works for a while.

[Erzengel]

You can't get this woman out of your head because she seems like the only "woman" in your life.

If you were meeting other women, this would be a non issue.

Why don't you try joining some clubs through the Town, Community, like a book club, nature hiking, etc. If not that, why don't you set up something through match, eharmony?

[jaguarr]

Erz is spot on. Join a club for something you really enjoy to do as a hobby, or that you'd like to but never have before, that's co-ed. Karate. Bike riding club. Book reading. Anything you can think of. You'll be having a lot of fun, meeting new people and expanding your horizons and social circle, which will mean you'll be meeting more people that you have something in common with, including women. I have a buddy who joined an Adventure Club when he moved from Maryland to Arizona and didn't know a soul. They went hiking, sky diving, white water rafting, and partied together. He met several women through that. He was having a blast and was really enjoying the club for what it was, and that's a part of what helped him meet those women; he didn't smell of desperation and just being there to meet women.

Honestly, focus on you and having fun. Meeting a woman isn't going to make you complete or make your life suddenly have meaning. Only you can give that to yourself. A woman can only add to that once you've done that work for yourself. You have to have your own **** straight first before you'll ever be able to help keep **** straight in a relationship with someone else. Make sense?

jag

[DV8]

She's married. To someone else. Get over it.

jag

Lol! Jag, does your wife work at a pharmacy? :oldrazz:

[DV8]

wow . . .seriously, GV; jag and erz's posts are dead on . . . :up: :up: women are attracted to guys who are confident in themselves, and guys who have fun (pry more than anything) . . . you seem like one of those guys . . . you just haven't let yourself off the hook yet . . .

if none of these things work, get some cocaine . . . chicks dig cocaine :o

[jaguarr]

Lol! Jag, does your wife work at a pharmacy? :oldrazz:

LOL! No, but you can be damn sure that if it were my wife he was hitting on like that he'd be given a very good reason to be afraid to bother her anymore.

jag

[jaguarr]

wow . . .seriously, GV; jag and erz's posts are dead on . . . :up: :up: women are attracted to guys who are confident in themselves, and guys who have fun (pry more than anything) . . . you seem like one of those guys . . . you just haven't let yourself off the hook yet . . .

if none of these things work, get some cocaine . . . chicks dig cocaine :o


Bingo! I always think of that old Jack Palance commercial for some aftershave product. His line was "Nothing is more sexy than confidence". The old man was right. :up:

jag

[DV8]

Bingo! I always think of that old Jack Palance commercial for some aftershave product. His line was "Nothing is more sexy than confidence". The old man was right. :up:

jag

for real . . . if Palance was still around, his old wrinkled testes would still be-a-palancing-the-pootie-tang on a daily :up:

point being, girls don't care about all those stupid hang-ups that GV is letting hold him back; the whole reason pharmacy girl even likes talking to him is pry cuz he feels comfortable enough to be himself around her . . . and that's what he's longing for with other ladies, but he just won't let go :(

[tzarinna]

And for God sake's don't come off as super eager or desperate when meeting women, please, for the love of god.
Godspeed, GV. :yay:

[DV8]

And for God sake's don't come off as super eager or desperate when meeting women, please, for the love of god.
Godspeed, GV. :yay:

yeah, GV . . . you almost have to act as if ladies sweat you everyday . . . it's like right now you're applying for a job to get into their panties . . . you're applying for that job like you ain't eaten in WEEKS . . . in MONTHS . . . you have to make these ladies apply for YOUR cock . . . in so many words :O

[theShape]

That is very constructive of you.

Life's hard. Get a helmet.

[tzarinna]

yeah, GV . . . you almost have to act as if ladies sweat you everyday . . . it's like right now you're applying for a job to get into their panties . . . you're applying for that job like you ain't eaten in WEEKS . . . in MONTHS . . . you have to make these ladies apply for YOUR cock . . . in so many words :O

Can I get an application, please? http://www.fodors.com/forums/smileys/batting.gif

[Dorian Gray]

Can I get an application, please? http://www.fodors.com/forums/smileys/batting.gif

Do you have references?

[DV8]

Can I get an application, please? http://www.fodors.com/forums/smileys/batting.gif

you had good references; you don't need one . . . just step in the line to the right :word: :hyper:

[Ghostvirus]

Sorry about the delay in replies. There was a carzy ass storm pounding Indiana.

You can't get this woman out of your head because she seems like the only "woman" in your life.

If you were meeting other women, this would be a non issue.

Why don't you try joining some clubs through the Town, Community, like a book club, nature hiking, etc. If not that, why don't you set up something through match, eharmony?

I am thinking about Volunteering at the Democratic Headquarters here.

As for Eharmony, Match. They told me that they have no matches. Yeah..I am an enigma.:o

Honestly, focus on you and having fun. Meeting a woman isn't going to make you complete or make your life suddenly have meaning. Only you can give that to yourself. A woman can only add to that once you've done that work for yourself. You have to have your own **** straight first before you'll ever be able to help keep **** straight in a relationship with someone else. Make sense?

jag

I think I am just having a panic attack. That one that I heard that people have when they are about to turn 30. I feel like my young life is coming to an end. I feel like I need to get some sh** done before I turn 30.

wow . . .seriously, GV; jag and erz's posts are dead on . . . :up: :up: women are attracted to guys who are confident in themselves, and guys who have fun (pry more than anything) . . . you seem like one of those guys . . . you just haven't let yourself off the hook yet . . .
if none of these things work, get some cocaine . . . chicks dig cocaine :o

I still don't exactly act confident around the Pharmacylady. I just kind of still just sit there, & let her talk. I will manage to say something every now, & again, but I usually end up coming off as an ass.

I really don't understand why she contues even making it a point to talk to me.*shrugs*

for real . . . if Palance was still around, his old wrinkled testes would still be-a-palancing-the-pootie-tang on a daily :up:

point being, girls don't care about all those stupid hang-ups that GV is letting hold him back; the whole reason pharmacy girl even likes talking to him is pry cuz he feels comfortable enough to be himself around her . . . and that's what he's longing for with other ladies, but he just won't let go :(

One handed push ups FTW!

And for God sake's don't come off as super eager or desperate when meeting women, please, for the love of god.
Godspeed, GV. :yay:

I think because of my shyness. I come off as super arrogant, which isn't good as well.

[Fran]

I think because of my shyness. I come off as super arrogant, which isn't good as well.

That was my problem... somehow, being shy does make you real cocky/arrogant when talking to a girl :huh:

But just calm down, be cool and collect, but not in an extremely assertive way.

[Ghostvirus]

Well when you combine my shyness with my sarcastic personality it makes it worse, because when I do talk. Sometimes my jokes don't come out the way they should, because of my shyness.

[Golgo-13]

Ok, well considering I haven't been able to get a woman yet, so that I can get over her. What are some other techniques that I can use? I have tried a lot of stuff, & it works for a while.

The next best thing:

Indulge yourself in hookers, seriously.

[Ghostvirus]

I have no idea where to get a hooker. Plus I really don't have the money.

[Fran]

Ghostvirus - I will be in Wabash this weekend.

[Mac_Hine]

Well when you combine my shyness with my sarcastic personality it makes it worse, because when I do talk. Sometimes my jokes don't come out the way they should, because of my shyness.
Well stop being so goddam shy. Keep the sarcastic, funny personality and healthy arrogance up around the ladies and you should be fine. Works for me.

[Ghostvirus]

Ghostvirus - I will be in Wabash this weekend.

I have heard of Wabash, but I don't know where that is.

Well stop being so goddam shy. Keep the sarcastic, funny personality and healthy arrogance up around the ladies and you should be fine. Works for me.

I be try'in, but I keep failing. I am not going to stop trying though.

[WalterKovacs]

If you've recently started a relationship with a girl, and you both really like eachother but havent kissed eachother yet, how would such action be approached/performed?

[Ash J. Williams]

You're saying you dunno how to kiss?

[Superman79]

And for God sake's don't come off as super eager or desperate when meeting women, please, for the love of god.
Godspeed, GV. :yay:

Desperation is a stinky, stinky cologne :(



I am thinking about Volunteering at the Democratic Headquarters here.

Take it from me, politics is a GREAT way to meet women...bonus is that you automatically have lots to talk about.


I think I am just having a panic attack. That one that I heard that people have when they are about to turn 30. I feel like my young life is coming to an end. I feel like I need to get some sh** done before I turn 30.

I think because of my shyness. I come off as super arrogant, which isn't good as well.

Ok, seriously man. You want my advice for overcoming shyness?? I was the fat kid for a long time, when I finally slimmed down I still acted like the fat kid...shy, and introverted...

Best way to get past that? Start random conversations with 10 people a day. The convos don't have to be long, just chat with the checker at the grocery store past the standard "how are you?", talk to the desk girl at the gym, or the fella who spotted you on the bench, or the person in line with you to get coffee or whatnot. talk to everyone, guys, girls, young and old. Just practice talking with them. you don't need to talk about deep subjects or even talk longer than 2 minutes, but talk...( and don't forget to smile and look them in the eyes).

Once you do this for a little while, you'd be surprised at how easy it is to start a conversation with anyone (including cute girls you might normally shy from) and keep the interaction going. Its not a perfect system, but it helped me, and it helped some friends of mine. At the very least, practice keeping your head up while waling down the street and say hello, or at least nod and smile at everyone you meet. This will get you used to the fact that most people respond positively to that sort of thing, and increases confidence.

Its a step anyway...

[Superman79]

If you've recently started a relationship with a girl, and you both really like eachother but havent kissed eachother yet, how would such action be approached/performed?

Depends on how long you've been going out. Though I'm gonna go with the assumption its been for a bit.

Options (mind you this isn't every option, but they are some that have worked for me)

1) At her door as you're saying goodbye, when the conversation lags, look her in the eyes, lean in, (she should be getting the hint and doing the same if she likes you) and kiss (eyes closed...open eyes while kissing is creepy). No tongue on the very first kiss.

2) If you're watching some "romantic movie" at one of your houses,she's laying on your shoulder, and there is a fairly romantic part playing, look down at her, softly lift her chin with your hand and kiss her sweetly (this one has scored me big points.

3) When you're alone, on a walk or whatnot together (no prying eyes around) talking, look her in the eyes, and simply ask, "What would you do if I kissed you right now?" and then you can do one of two things, you can kiss her mid-response surprising her, or you can wait til she answers (usually like "kiss you back" or "I dunno"-provided she lieks you like you say she does) then kiss her.


Those are just 3 suggestions, there are 100 more ways, but those have worked for me. Best of Luck :up:

[Ghostvirus]

Take it from me, politics is a GREAT way to meet women...bonus is that you automatically have lots to talk about.

Politics can also be extremely volatile.

Ok, seriously man. You want my advice for overcoming shyness?? I was the fat kid for a long time, when I finally slimmed down I still acted like the fat kid...shy, and introverted...

Best way to get past that? Start random conversations with 10 people a day. The convos don't have to be long, just chat with the checker at the grocery store past the standard "how are you?", talk to the desk girl at the gym, or the fella who spotted you on the bench, or the person in line with you to get coffee or whatnot. talk to everyone, guys, girls, young and old. Just practice talking with them. you don't need to talk about deep subjects or even talk longer than 2 minutes, but talk...( and don't forget to smile and look them in the eyes).

Once you do this for a little while, you'd be surprised at how easy it is to start a conversation with anyone (including cute girls you might normally shy from) and keep the interaction going. Its not a perfect system, but it helped me, and it helped some friends of mine. At the very least, practice keeping your head up while waling down the street and say hello, or at least nod and smile at everyone you meet. This will get you used to the fact that most people respond positively to that sort of thing, and increases confidence.

Its a step anyway...

I have been doing. I just start to lose confidence in midde conversation, & clam up. I am getting better though.

[Gilpesh]

I have been doing. I just start to lose confidence in midde conversation, & clam up. I am getting better though.

You can never get better and you can never overcome that. :dry:






(Shut up guys, of course he can do it.... but if he does... then how else are we going to get hilarious stories about married women?)

[Scarlet spidey]

Alrighty, guys. I've got one.

So, back in November I asked this girl out, I'd known her for about 6 months before I finally let myself do it. I wanted to ask her out shortly after I first met her, but there were a few things that were stopping me at the time. Mostly things on my end. Anyway.. I asked her out, and she agreed to go out on a date with me, though she was hesitant. We went out, and she seemed to have a good time. She told me she wanted to take things slow with me, and really get to know me before we got serious, I told her that was perfectly fine with me. So we kept just going on non serious dates, like to the mall, just to walk around and look in stores, or going to play pool, things like that. We wouldn't do this all that often, though.. maybe once every two weeks, but we looked forward to it.
However, lately it seems like every time I try to make plans with her something comes up, either she has plans for the day, or she won't get my text about the subject, or whatever. Yet she insists that she isn't pushing me away. She's becoming pretty difficult to get a hold of, though.
I don't really know what to do. I like this girl, she's very nice. And I honestly believe that if she didn't want to be with me she would let me know, I've talked to mutual friends about the subject and they feel that she would let me know, too. She's a pretty blunt person, and honest aswell.

(Sorry, kinda long, I know.)

[Erzengel]

You are making me squirm, because it's stuff like that ^ that made me self doubt myself when I dated. We would go out and have fun but trying to get that next date or outing was a b'tch and the girl would rarely try and initiate a meeting.

My first reaction is she is pushing you away maybe not intentionally. I'm curious how often you guys talk and when you do talk, who calls who?

[Daisy]

Alrighty, guys. I've got one.

So, back in November I asked this girl out, I'd known her for about 6 months before I finally let myself do it. I wanted to ask her out shortly after I first met her, but there were a few things that were stopping me at the time. Mostly things on my end. Anyway.. I asked her out, and she agreed to go out on a date with me, though she was hesitant. We went out, and she seemed to have a good time. She told me she wanted to take things slow with me, and really get to know me before we got serious, I told her that was perfectly fine with me. So we kept just going on non serious dates, like to the mall, just to walk around and look in stores, or going to play pool, things like that. We wouldn't do this all that often, though.. maybe once every two weeks, but we looked forward to it.
However, lately it seems like every time I try to make plans with her something comes up, either she has plans for the day, or she won't get my text about the subject, or whatever. Yet she insists that she isn't pushing me away. She's becoming pretty difficult to get a hold of, though.
I don't really know what to do. I like this girl, she's very nice. And I honestly believe that if she didn't want to be with me she would let me know, I've talked to mutual friends about the subject and they feel that she would let me know, too. She's a pretty blunt person, and honest aswell.

(Sorry, kinda long, I know.)

You and your friends are wrong... sort of. She doesn't want to be with you... and she's letting you know by pushing you away (despite her claims to the contrary).

She thinks you're an okay guy, but in her heart (and other places) you just don't 'do it' for her... although because she knows you're a decent guy and probably just what girls like her 'should be looking for' she's frustrated by this fact. She doesn't like admitting it to herself, so she denies it. It's easier just to avoid the issue... hence her ambivalence toward you.

She doesn't want to say no because deep down she thinks it reflects poorly on her... because she can't really come up with a reason why she's not more interested in you as there's really nothing tangible wrong with you and she knows it.

Chemistry's a ***** sometimes. :(

My advice. Stop calling/texting her. Don't ask her to do stuff. She's not really interested in you, so she won't be calling you, and the whole thing will just sort of... fall away.

Sorry it's not more positive, but speaking from the girl's perspective, I'd say this is overwhelmingly this is most likely what's going on.

Best advice I can give you guys: When a girl really likes you, if you make advances (call her, ask her out, etc.)... she'll accept readily (to the extent of changing existing plans if she can to be with you)... and she'll be as much interested in talking to you as you are her.

[Fran]

That chick sounds like my senior prom date.

[Superman79]

Politics can also be extremely volatile.

Yeah, but you're working for the Dems, thus I assume you're a Democrat and believe in most of their stances, anyone working with you there is likely also a Democrat and thus holds the same stances...BOOM...something in common, and unlikely to be as volatile as you fear.

Trust me, I've met many of the girls I've dated at political functions...trust me it works.

[Erzengel]

You and your friends are wrong... sort of. She doesn't want to be with you... and she's letting you know by pushing you away (despite her claims to the contrary).

She thinks you're an okay guy, but in her heart (and other places) you just don't 'do it' for her... although because she knows you're a decent guy and probably just what girls like her 'should be looking for' she's frustrated by this fact. She doesn't like admitting it to herself, so she denies it. It's easier just to avoid the issue... hence her ambivalence toward you.

She doesn't want to say no because deep down she thinks it reflects poorly on her... because she can't really come up with a reason why she's not more interested in you as there's really nothing tangible wrong with you and she knows it.

Chemistry's a ***** sometimes. :(

My advice. Stop calling/texting her. Don't ask her to do stuff. She's not really interested in you, so she won't be calling you, and the whole thing will just sort of... fall away.

Sorry it's not more positive, but speaking from the girl's perspective, I'd say this is overwhelmingly this is most likely what's going on.

Best advice I can give you guys: When a girl really likes you, if you make advances (call her, ask her out, etc.)... she'll accept readily (to the extent of changing existing plans if she can to be with you)... and she'll be as much interested in talking to you as you are her.
That's why I asked him about the calls, I was 90% sure it was her blowing him off (in a bad way) but it would of solidify it, if it was always him making the effort to contact her.

[Superman79]

Alrighty, guys. I've got one.....(Sorry, kinda long, I know.)

Gotta agree with Daisy on this one. Sorry bro. :csad:

[Dorian Gray]

I have no idea where to get a hooker. Plus I really don't have the money.

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[Soundwave]

That's why I asked him about the calls, I was 90% sure it was her blowing him off (in a bad way) but it would of solidify it, if it was always him making the effort to contact her.

I was in a similar situation once but the weird thing was, the girl would initiate a lot of the phone calls and e-mails, we would set up a simple lunch date or dinner, then all of a sudden out of nowhere, she'd do something to get out of it. Most frustrating experience of my life. Nothing pisses me off more than a flake.

[Stotch]

That's why I asked him about the calls, I was 90% sure it was her blowing him off (in a bad way) but it would of solidify it, if it was always him making the effort to contact her.

Agreed with what Daisy said. I've grown tired of the type of girls who never make any effort to contact you, even after months of knowing eachother. When it's you who's always being the one approaching her, and if you stop and wait for her to come and she doesn't approach you, it's a given that she holds no interest in you or it can be that she's just lazy and expects you to do all the work.

It's also sad when you're talking to them, and you realize all they respond with are one-word answers. When you ask them questions about themselves, they answer and that's it; they never return any questions to you. Imo, it shows a lot if a girl asks you questions or not. If she does, it's obvious she wants to know you more. If she doesn't, let it go because you deserve better than that sort of treatment.

[Superman79]

I was in a similar situation once but the weird thing was, the girl would initiate a lot of the phone calls and e-mails, we would set up a simple lunch date or dinner, then all of a sudden out of nowhere, she'd do something to get out of it. Most frustrating experience of my life. Nothing pisses me off more than a flake.


Flakes do so much to destroy mans faith in the female gender...100% of the time, they are never worth your time :csad:

[Erzengel]

I bought tickets to a show on Broadway for like 2 of my friends. One of them was a flaker who I was so enthralled with. I had to eat one of those tickets. :down

[The Amazing Lee]

:(:(

[Stotch]

Flakes do so much to destroy mans faith in the female gender...100% of the time, they are never worth your time :csad:

Not just faith in females, but also faith in himself if he's met too many flakes. He may feel he's a boring, uninteresting person if girls keep flaking on him.