*Official* Relationship Advice Thread

[Angel_Faerie]

Well, it is only the beginning of October, maybe closer to the dance you'll have a better read on how he feels about you. If you do feel he'd say yes to going to the dance though, it'd probably be better to go out on a date or two before hand, there's already enough pressure at a school dance you don't want to add to it by this being your first date with this guy.

You're right. There's still plenty of time until the dance. So I can try and see if I can tell for sure what his feelings are by then. And a dance probably wouldn't make a good first date if he is interested in me. If I'm 100% sure without a doubt that he is by mid-month, but he hasn't asked me out, then I'll ask him out to dinner or lunch or something. But for now I'll just sit back and observe. Talk to him, get to know him more. Take it easy.

[amazingfantasy15]

You're right. There's still plenty of time until the dance. So I can try and see if I can tell for sure what his feelings are by then. And a dance probably wouldn't make a good first date if he is interested in me. If I'm 100% sure without a doubt that he is by mid-month, but he hasn't asked me out, then I'll ask him out to dinner or lunch or something. But for now I'll just sit back and observe. Talk to him, get to know him more. Take it easy.

Great plan.

[Knightsaber Priss]

So in short, there a couple of guys who like you. How long are you going to wait around for one to drop a pair and ask you out? I mean, this all sounds like high school especially if you are talking about people in their late 20s. If one or both of them don't say something, there's nothing wrong with you making the first move.

*Edit* Sorry but I just had to add this. There's a whole lot of stuff I haven't and cannot tell you about my situation. I think I've said too much already. It's light years more complicated than you could ever fathom. Let's just say....the people I'm dealing with are not the typical bar hopping rednecks or frat boys you'd find here where I live. And with that you will get no more out of me. Even if things do come to a more positive end you still won't get me to reveal names and places.

Well, I know 100% that one of them is definitely not in his 20's at all (He's about twenty years older than me, but hey, I'm not jailbait at almost 36 you know.), which at first baffles me as to why he's not more...forceful about his feelings. But then again I know he's the sensitive type, though sometimes I don't think he'd like to admit it. As I'd stated in reply to someone else's similar predicament over at the Nightwish forums, I mentioned co-dependent relationships. I'm pretty sure alot of you have had or have friends, male or female, that just because they're scared of change stay with significant others who are just completely wrong for them. It doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the other person, it's just that the personalities are contradictory. But I've realized if you ever really fall for a person in a co-dependent relationship you have to tell them exactly how you feel, which was the intent of my earlier post. Also these sorts of people tend to have a hard time making choices a thousand other people have made, because they're scared of breaking free from the blind security of the status quo. But again, I can only go on my own impressions in this case since my target hasn't been very forthcoming with his own feelings. This is why I want him to talk to me. He's leaving me with alot of grey areas by not telling me whether or not he loves me and wants to finally decide to fight for me. I can now accept it if he just wants to be friends, but there's a thought swimming inside my brain that even though he'd say that he might not feel it inside. It hurts me to think he'd be living with a lie, but what else can I do? Maybe he's afraid if he actually makes contact with me that he might do something he'd regret before he's able to take things further. I'm guessing his age might have something to do with his hesitancy, but I feel as though we've wasted way too much time already and I really want to give a relationship a try. You know, I don't give a crap if anyone thinks I'm looking for a "Sugar Daddy" because they are just ignorant SOB's who don't know me at all and can just go **** off. There is one type of sugar I want and you don't need money to get it...well not unless you've found it on a street corner. I can say with confidence that I might not have much, but everything that I do have I've paid for with my own money that I earned myself. But I digress....This is what causes me the greatest pain, is not trying to see if our relationship would work regardless of the age gap. Love is 100% trial and error. You're never given any guarentees but it's also really futile to just play it safe all the time having little flings and then backing off.

Again here is another example of me laying it all on the line, expressing exactly how I feel. If the man I've fallen for, or any of his "friends" for that matter, is lurking in these boards and is reading this, you know how to contact me. My door, whether I'm at work or at home (Though please let me clean my apartment first.), is always open. Whatever you want to talk about is fine with me, especially if I'm at work where I usually am there all by myself.

[Untilteld]

I'm meeting some dtf girl tomorrow to see a movie and she's bringing a friend I don't know, and she's bringing a guy I don't know. Thoughts? Concerns?

[Erzengel]

*Edit* Sorry but I just had to add this. There's a whole lot of stuff I haven't and cannot tell you about my situation. I think I've said too much already. It's light years more complicated than you could ever fathom. Let's just say....the people I'm dealing with are not the typical bar hopping rednecks or frat boys you'd find here where I live. And with that you will get no more out of me. Even if things do come to a more positive end you still won't get me to reveal names and places.

Well, I know 100% that one of them is definitely not in his 20's at all (He's about twenty years older than me, but hey, I'm not jailbait at almost 36 you know.), which at first baffles me as to why he's not more...forceful about his feelings. But then again I know he's the sensitive type, though sometimes I don't think he'd like to admit it. As I'd stated in reply to someone else's similar predicament over at the Nightwish forums, I mentioned co-dependent relationships. I'm pretty sure alot of you have had or have friends, male or female, that just because they're scared of change stay with significant others who are just completely wrong for them. It doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the other person, it's just that the personalities are contradictory. But I've realized if you ever really fall for a person in a co-dependent relationship you have to tell them exactly how you feel, which was the intent of my earlier post. Also these sorts of people tend to have a hard time making choices a thousand other people have made, because they're scared of breaking free from the blind security of the status quo. But again, I can only go on my own impressions in this case since my target hasn't been very forthcoming with his own feelings. This is why I want him to talk to me. He's leaving me with alot of grey areas by not telling me whether or not he loves me and wants to finally decide to fight for me. I can now accept it if he just wants to be friends, but there's a thought swimming inside my brain that even though he'd say that he might not feel it inside. It hurts me to think he'd be living with a lie, but what else can I do? Maybe he's afraid if he actually makes contact with me that he might do something he'd regret before he's able to take things further. I'm guessing his age might have something to do with his hesitancy, but I feel as though we've wasted way too much time already and I really want to give a relationship a try. You know, I don't give a crap if anyone thinks I'm looking for a "Sugar Daddy" because they are just ignorant SOB's who don't know me at all and can just go **** off. There is one type of sugar I want and you don't need money to get it...well not unless you've found it on a street corner. I can say with confidence that I might not have much, but everything that I do have I've paid for with my own money that I earned myself. But I digress....This is what causes me the greatest pain, is not trying to see if our relationship would work regardless of the age gap. Love is 100% trial and error. You're never given any guarentees but it's also really futile to just play it safe all the time having little flings and then backing off.

Again here is another example of me laying it all on the line, expressing exactly how I feel. If the man I've fallen for, or any of his "friends" for that matter, is lurking in these boards and is reading this, you know how to contact me. My door, whether I'm at work or at home (Though please let me clean my apartment first.), is always open. Whatever you want to talk about is fine with me, especially if I'm at work where I usually am there all by myself.
Honestly, you really think that he or his friends or lurkers on SHH? I have a gf and she's never signed on to read what I say on here. :huh:

[Erzengel]

I'm meeting some dtf girl tomorrow to see a movie and she's bringing a friend I don't know, and she's bringing a guy I don't know. Thoughts? Concerns?
How'd you meet this girl? On myspace through a friend? I mean if you never met her before, I'd think it's to make sure you aren't a serial killer?

If you have met, and she's still bringing a girl and a guy, she's either clueless or maybe she's not as "dtf" as you thought.

[Eggyman]

I'm meeting some dtf girl tomorrow to see a movie and she's bringing a friend I don't know, and she's bringing a guy I don't know. Thoughts? Concerns?


Ooo been there, mate. My first date with my last girlfriend was something like that. I think she was looking for an excuse to invite me out, so said that her and a load of workmates were going out and asked me if I wanted to go. So, simple, yes? Wrong. It was obvious to me even then what was going on. I hardly ever get nervous when meeting girls for the first time - meeting their friends though . . . :dry:

When I got there, it was obvious almost from the start that there was two factions at work - ones that were friendly to me, and ones that weren't. I found out later what all that was about by one her friends that did like me: From the side that didn't seem to like me very much, there was a guy who worked with her for a while who really liked her, never made a move, and was being pissy because he missed his chance (you always seem to want something more when you can't have it :o), and all of his 'boys' were being loyal to him by being sh**ty to me :(.

I LOL'd :D

It's a hard position to be in, because not only on your first date are you trying to make a good impression with her, but you're also trying to seem ok to them, too, so that they don't make things difficult between you two.

My advice: Don't worry about it because it's out of your hands. Be yourself. And have a good time! :)

[Savage]

Haha Aw, man, have I been in that spot. No-one would talk to me except the girl I was there to see and when they did it was something negative like "When are you leaving?" or "You gonna hang with us the whole night?". The girl I was with was nice enough to apologize whenever we could and we still managed to have a good time though.

[aaron]

friends hmph

[Erzengel]

I've walked into the Lion's Den before without a wing man. I was not only able to get the girl away from the friends, but even got some one on one alone time to put on the Erz charm. Ahh...memories.

[Knightsaber Priss]

Honestly, you really think that he or his friends or lurkers on SHH? I have a gf and she's never signed on to read what I say on here. :huh:

Like I stated, I've been saying too much already so I'm not going to divulge anything more here. All I'm going to say is that this is a very public, easily accessible forum. From hereon I really think anything of a personal matter needs to be stated in a direct, nonpublic manner. I'll state this yet again, he and they know how to contact me. My door is always open and I welcome any communication, even if it's just small talk.

And you know, after reading this article I don't feel so bad anymore.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081003/ap_on_fe_st/odd_frustrated_boyfriend;_ylt=Aga8fJ9rivtUZiNuYUd9 PVYuQE4F

At least I'd never do anything that stupid!

[aaron]

now that is ability

[Erzengel]

Like I stated, I've been saying too much already so I'm not going to divulge anything more here.

And you know, after reading this article I don't feel so bad anymore.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081003/ap_on_fe_st/odd_frustrated_boyfriend;_ylt=Aga8fJ9rivtUZiNuYUd9 PVYuQE4F

At least I'd never do anything that stupid!

I understand your need to keep this vague and it more sounds like you need a sounding board than actual advice.

I mean from the sounds of your posts, it looks like you have put the ball in his court in some form or another, if you have made your intentions clear, than there is not much you can do besides a) wait or b) move on.

I suggest if you choose a) you kinda give yourself a definite time line, you shouldn't really wait around for anyone for a serious amount of time.

[amazingfantasy15]

Like I stated, I've been saying too much already so I'm not going to divulge anything more here. All I'm going to say is that this is a very public, easily accessible forum. From hereon I really think anything of a personal matter needs to be stated in a direct, nonpublic manner. I'll state this yet again, he and they know how to contact me. My door is always open and I welcome any communication, even if it's just small talk.

And you know, after reading this article I don't feel so bad anymore.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081003/ap_on_fe_st/odd_frustrated_boyfriend;_ylt=Aga8fJ9rivtUZiNuYUd9 PVYuQE4F

At least I'd never do anything that stupid!

I still think you should just ask the guy out yourself, hoping that he reads your posts on this forum is not the way to go. Asking him out will give you the answer you want good or bad and you'll be able to either move to the next step or move on.

[amazingfantasy15]

I'm meeting some dtf girl tomorrow to see a movie and she's bringing a friend I don't know, and she's bringing a guy I don't know. Thoughts? Concerns?

What's "dtf" mean? If she's brining a guy you're not on a date. If she brought a girl friend that might be different.

[Erzengel]

DTF is down to f'.

[Eggyman]

What's "dtf" mean? If she's brining a guy you're not on a date. If she brought a girl friend that might be different.

I read it as the girl he was meeting was bringing a friend who was also bringing a friend.

[aaron]

something like that

[amazingfantasy15]

I read it as the girl he was meeting was bringing a friend who was also bringing a friend.

Re-reading it, yeah, I can see that now. So kind of a double date and a double date doesn't really seem like a down to f**k date, if that's what it was she wouldn't be bringing a couple with, unless she's into orgies.

[Knightsaber Priss]

I still think you should just ask the guy out yourself, hoping that he reads your posts on this forum is not the way to go. Asking him out will give you the answer you want good or bad and you'll be able to either move to the next step or move on.

How many times do I have to say that I can't just walk right up to him and ask him anything? He's in a different social/economic stratosphere than I am. I bet I'd end up sounding like a crazy stalker even if I did have a means of communication on my end. It's not like I see him every day too. He's not a local at all and not in the phone book period. I don't even know where he lives and even if I did I could never afford the trip down. Plus I'd look like a pathetic loser standing there at his gate asking if I can come in. Security would escort me away given I'd look like a homeless person because of my poor social stature. Believe me, if I could I would tell him everything I feel, but I physically can't. Considering our different circumstances he or whomever has got to take the initiative because I am powerless given the specifics of the situation which you will not get.

[Eggyman]

How many times do I have to say that I can't just walk right up to him and ask him anything? He's in a different social/economic stratosphere than I am. I bet I'd end up sounding like a crazy stalker even if I did have a means of communication on my end. It's not like I see him every day too. He's not a local at all and not in the phone book period. I don't even know where he lives and even if I did I could never afford the trip down. Plus I'd look like a pathetic loser standing there at his gate asking if I can come in. Security would escort me away given I'd look like a homeless person because of my poor social stature. Believe me, if I could I would tell him everything I feel, but I physically can't. Considering our different circumstances he or whomever has got to take the initiative because I am powerless given the specifics of the situation which you will not get.

So, errr, what you're saying is that this thread and the advice in it are useless to you :D

[kainedamo]

How many times do I have to say that I can't just walk right up to him and ask him anything? He's in a different social/economic stratosphere than I am.


Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but what does that have to do with it?

[fabman]

Ok, guys... this one is tricky - and it's also my fault - but I wanna make up for it.

There was this gal who wanted me... so... you know how it is when you become so "secure" about something that you don't even care about it?

Well, that's what happened she's kinda "over me" since two days ago... haven't heard anything from here since... and that's when you usually realise how much you like someone...

What do YOU guys think 'bout the situation?

PS: I know I'm an a**hole...

[amazingfantasy15]

How many times do I have to say that I can't just walk right up to him and ask him anything? He's in a different social/economic stratosphere than I am. I bet I'd end up sounding like a crazy stalker even if I did have a means of communication on my end. It's not like I see him every day too. He's not a local at all and not in the phone book period. I don't even know where he lives and even if I did I could never afford the trip down. Plus I'd look like a pathetic loser standing there at his gate asking if I can come in. Security would escort me away given I'd look like a homeless person because of my poor social stature. Believe me, if I could I would tell him everything I feel, but I physically can't. Considering our different circumstances he or whomever has got to take the initiative because I am powerless given the specifics of the situation which you will not get.

Well then, sorry to sound harsh, but what are you trying to accomplish here? Is it just hoping this guy will somehow find out about the hype, stumble on this thread and be able to decode all these vague descriptions and realize this girl is you and you want him to ask you out? You're only as powerless as you make yourself.

[amazingfantasy15]

Ok, guys... this one is tricky - and it's also my fault - but I wanna make up for it.

There was this gal who wanted me... so... you know how it is when you become so "secure" about something that you don't even care about it?

Well, that's what happened she's kinda "over me" since two days ago... haven't heard anything from here since... and that's when you usually realise how much you like someone...

What do YOU guys think 'bout the situation?

PS: I know I'm an a**hole...

Glad you're able to realize you're an ********* and that you f**ked up. Next step is for you to get over her because even if you tried to get her, all you'll end up doing is hurting her because you'll dump her the second she becomes interested again. You're only interested in the chase, not the girl.

[Eggyman]

Be careful it isn't just wanting her because now she isn't interested. I've know it happen before. A nice easy way to **** with people's emotions, that is.

If you want to try with her, there'll be a few ways about it, easiest one being:

Be honest with her, fabman. Call yourself a few names to show how much you regret how you were. Tell her your head has been removed from your anus and that you'd love to spend some time with her.

If not, chloroform. :up:

[fabman]

Well... sure the chloroform would be the easiest... :D

[fabman]

I don't think anyone cares, anyway... updates from me. Sent her a txt today, she doesn't answer. Well, watcha gonna do.. that's life! I totally ****ed up!

[Eggyman]

I don't think anyone cares, anyway... updates from me. Sent her a txt today, she doesn't answer. Well, watcha gonna do.. that's life! I totally ****ed up!

Aww don't be like, fabby. If we didn't care, we wouldn't come in here :yay:

Yeh, sounds like you've got the right mindset. Sometimes you just have to admit that you played it wrong and move on. :csad:

[fabman]

Sometimes you just have to admit that you played it wrong and move on. :csad:

Yeah...

[aaron]

that sucks man
take your mind off her with an equally attractive chick
advice of the whole thread right there

[fabman]

Well, that's what happens when your ego gets so bloated that you ignore people interested in you... and once they ignore you... well, yeah.

Next. :D

[Eggyman]

that sucks man
take your mind off her with an equally attractive chick
advice of the whole thread right there

:up:

[kainedamo]

Gararearerararrrr women are so confusing.

So that girl a while back who I was talking to online, the one who said she wouldn't be able to contact me for 6 weeks, she sent me a message asking me how I am and stuff, saying that she's in Belfast for the weekend, says that she'd like to hang out, and she gives me her number. So I send her a text letting her know what I'm doing and stuff. She says she's going out for a friend's birthday into town and she'll let me know what she's doing so I could probably meet up with her while she's out. Then I don't hear a thing from her for the rest of the night.

I sent her a text last night to let her know I was out, and said if she couldn't meet me tonight maybe we could meet up tomorrow. Still haven't heard anything.

Man this bugs the hell out of me. She pops in out of nowhere, talks like she's interested in meeting up, then disappears again.

And now I have her number so I'm like, should I call her? If I call her would she be like "oh gee he's getting a bit needy". What if she just ran out of credit and that's why she hasn't gotten back to me. Grrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaargh why are things never simple with women.

[kainedamo]

So should I text her again or just leave it alone?

I was gonna send a text like...

If you're still in belfast and want to meet up later for maybe something to eat let me know.

[Eggyman]

So should I text her again or just leave it alone?

I was gonna send a text like...

If you're still in belfast and want to meet up later for maybe something to eat let me know.


I wouldn't text her again, kaine. She hasn't replied to your last one.

If you are going to try and make contact again, I would ring her.

[kainedamo]

And it won't make me look needy or something if I call her?

This is a delicate situation. This is the closest I've been to having a date in ****ing ages.

[Untilteld]

Alright, the girl I went to the movies with or whatever basically led me on. She said she likes me but she likes some older guy a lot more, who's got seven years on her. Should I just quit going for her and find some another woman?

[Eggyman]

And it won't make me look needy or something if I call her?

This is a delicate situation. This is the closest I've been to having a date in ****ing ages.


Understood. I don't think it'd make you seem needy really. Obviously it isn't an ideal situation because you seem to be making the moves at the moment . . . but let's not forget that she started the ball rolling by telling you she was in town.

So, I'd say ring her. It cuts out the bullsh** of texting. Ring her once, and after that the ball's in her court.

[Eggyman]

Alright, the girl I went to the movies with or whatever basically led me on. She said she likes me but she likes some older guy a lot more, who's got seven years on her. Should I just quit going for her and find some another woman?

Depends if being second best turns you on or not ;)

If not, move on. Her loss. What's she doing, keeping her options open, or playing mind games to make you bend over backwards to please her? The greedy ho.

My rant has changed my mind. Go out now and secks her best friend lol j/k ;)

[kainedamo]

No answer.

God damn it what the hell is the problem.

I'll try to take my mind off it. The ball is in her court now. I just don't understand it.

[Eggyman]

No answer.

God damn it what the hell is the problem.

I'll try to take my mind off it. The ball is in her court now. I just don't understand it.

Wow, leave it at that then, pal. Who knows what's going on with her . . .

[kainedamo]

Okay, she texted me back.

Apparently she's already back in Derry and the reason she didn't text me last night was because the reception in the club she was in was pants.

[kainedamo]

Great. Now I'm gonna wonder why she hasn't responded to the text I sent her in response to her last text. Just great. I hate my brain.

[Eggyman]

At least she gave you an excuse . . . even if it is a sh**ty one :o

[kainedamo]

You know, it is a ****ty excuse, and I haven't heard anything since she made that excuse. Man, I dunno. Is it one of these female mind games? :o

[Untilteld]

Depends if being second best turns you on or not ;)

If not, move on. Her loss. What's she doing, keeping her options open, or playing mind games to make you bend over backwards to please her? The greedy ho.

My rant has changed my mind. Go out now and secks her best friend lol j/k ;)

Cool. I guess I'll just move down to the next girl on my list. :up:

[spideyboy_1111]

So i went on a date with this guy friday night, we curled up, watched movies, he spent the night, we slept in till like noon, went to a costume store, dropped him off, he called me 3 hrs later to hang out again... and dropped him off at a friends around 10pm.. and said he'd prob call me later to sleep over again last night, well.. he didn't but only cuz he just explained to me he had a really craptastic night, which was understandable. NE who.. we enjoy spending time with eachother and i can tell a part of him likes me, but he seems kinda reserved to show affection... i kissed him, and he hardly kissed back and just kinda said, hes not much of a kisser...

now no one isnt "just not much of a kisser", but for some, kissing is the most intimate thing you can do, so i figure A) he simply isnt into me romantically B) he holds kissing so high that he's not sure if he likes me romantically or not yet, so didn't want to kiss to lead me on C) felt he had bad breath or D) i wasn't clean shaven, so maybe i was a lil prickly

[Eggyman]

So i went on a date with this guy friday night, we curled up, watched movies, he spent the night, we slept in till like noon, went to a costume store, dropped him off, he called me 3 hrs later to hang out again... and dropped him off at a friends around 10pm.. and said he'd prob call me later to sleep over again last night, well.. he didn't but only cuz he just explained to me he had a really craptastic night, which was understandable. NE who.. we enjoy spending time with eachother and i can tell a part of him likes me, but he seems kinda reserved to show affection... i kissed him, and he hardly kissed back and just kinda said, hes not much of a kisser...

now no one isnt "just not much of a kisser", but for some, kissing is the most intimate thing you can do, so i figure A) he simply isnt into me romantically B) he holds kissing so high that he's not sure if he likes me romantically or not yet, so didn't want to kiss to lead me on C) felt he had bad breath or D) i wasn't clean shaven, so maybe i was a lil prickly

:lmao::lmao:

[adhokk7]

So i went on a date with this guy friday night, we curled up, watched movies, he spent the night, we slept in till like noon, went to a costume store, dropped him off, he called me 3 hrs later to hang out again... and dropped him off at a friends around 10pm.. and said he'd prob call me later to sleep over again last night, well.. he didn't but only cuz he just explained to me he had a really craptastic night, which was understandable. NE who.. we enjoy spending time with eachother and i can tell a part of him likes me, but he seems kinda reserved to show affection... i kissed him, and he hardly kissed back and just kinda said, hes not much of a kisser...

now no one isnt "just not much of a kisser", but for some, kissing is the most intimate thing you can do, so i figure A) he simply isnt into me romantically B) he holds kissing so high that he's not sure if he likes me romantically or not yet, so didn't want to kiss to lead me on C) felt he had bad breath or D) i wasn't clean shaven, so maybe i was a lil prickly

I'm not much of a kisser. It just doesn't appeal to me. I think you should wait a little bit before coming to any serious conclusions.

[J. J. Jameson]

So I've been friends with this girl for a few years now. Just friends, and that's all I am now and all I want to be and all she wants to be, rather obviously because she has a boyfriend. Anyway, last night, we were talking and apparently her boyfriend doesn't like her talking to me. She still wanted to talk to me, and of course I wanted to still talk to her because I look to her a lot for advice on whatever and as someone to talk to if I'm having a rough day. But she felt that we couldn't talk without her feeling guilty about it because apparently her boyfriend doesn't know we still talk. I completely understand, and, even though it was one of the hardest things to do in my life, I said if it made things better for her and her relationship, we could stop talking...and so we have. And, I don't know...the whole thing may sound dumb, but it's been a really tough day...I'm the kind of guy who thinks that just because you're in a relationship doesn't mean that you give up all your friends of the opposite sex. Any ideas what to do? Or do you think I did the right thing?

[AndThePickles]

So I've been friends with this girl for a few years now. Just friends, and that's all I am now and all I want to be and all she wants to be, rather obviously because she has a boyfriend. Anyway, last night, we were talking and apparently her boyfriend doesn't like her talking to me. She still wanted to talk to me, and of course I wanted to still talk to her because I look to her a lot for advice on whatever and as someone to talk to if I'm having a rough day. But she felt that we couldn't talk without her feeling guilty about it because apparently her boyfriend doesn't know we still talk. I completely understand, and, even though it was one of the hardest things to do in my life, I said if it made things better for her and her relationship, we could stop talking...and so we have. And, I don't know...the whole thing may sound dumb, but it's been a really tough day...I'm the kind of guy who thinks that just because you're in a relationship doesn't mean that you give up all your friends of the opposite sex. Any ideas what to do? Or do you think I did the right thing?

Any clue why he doesn't like her talking to you?

[spideyboy_1111]

I'm not much of a kisser. It just doesn't appeal to me. I think you should wait a little bit before coming to any serious conclusions.

gah really? i dont see how anyone couldnt enjoy kissing.. unless the only kissers they've had suck

[spideyboy_1111]

:lmao::lmao:

...... besides that part :whatever:

[adhokk7]

gah really? i dont see how anyone couldnt enjoy kissing.. unless the only kissers they've had suck

Yeah, it's just one of those things. I don't hate it, but I don't care much for it. So, again, I'd advise that you don't immediately read too much in this guy's statement that he's not much of a kisser. He could very well be telling you the truth.

[spideyboy_1111]

Yeah, it's just one of those things. I don't hate it, but I don't care much for it. So, again, I'd advise that you don't immediately read too much in this guy's statement that he's not much of a kisser. He could very well be telling you the truth.

meh then that sucks... who'd wanna date someone who doesn't show affection? hell i can't even get into sex without kissing. I guess other people who arn't into kissing might be into it.. but meh i like making out..

[Eggyman]

...... besides that part :whatever:

Sorry mate - just struck me funny. Don't you roll those eyes at me :hehe:

[spideyboy_1111]

Sorry mate - just struck me funny. Don't you roll those eyes at me :hehe:

*:whatever:double rolls:whatever:*

[UA-Archangel]

meh then that sucks... who'd wanna date someone who doesn't show affection? hell i can't even get into sex without kissing. I guess other people who arn't into kissing might be into it.. but meh i like making out..

Everybody is different. Not everybody gets a charge from necking.

Some might prefer hugs, or soothing words, or nothing at all.

[Eggyman]

*:whatever:double rolls:whatever:*

With an attitude like that, no wonder he won't kiss you :o:lmao:

[J. J. Jameson]

Any clue why he doesn't like her talking to you?

I guess because he thinks I'm gonna try to take her away from him or whatever. It's not like that at all. I don't know...I just wish he'd understand that we were good friends before their relationship and would just like to be good friends during it, too.

[Doctor Jones]

Well, for a couple years now, I liked this girl in my school. We've known eachother since the 1st grade and now we're sophmores. We've had a few conversations but nothing groundbreaking. I remember she too saw Indy 4 and she said it was "the best movie ever." I got excited like a baffoon and started to talk to her about it. But that's the thing. That's because she was in one of my classes last year. But now, she's in none of them. The only time I see her is in the hallway when she passes, or during lunch when she walks by. I'd like to ask her to do something, but with a scarce chance of getting the chance to talk to her I don't know what to do.

Plus, I'm always afraid to ask out girls because I'm not into sports and I know girls love the jocks or athletic guys. What the hell am I suppose to say to her when I tell her I like to read, write, draw, and collect and read comic books? To any girl for that matter? Like I said earlier, I can only talk about movies or comics in a conversation and I don't want to tell her I hate sports but I don't want to lie to her about it. And from her past boyfriends, they were athletic and once she even told me who she had a crush on. Who was also athletic. I remember she tried to get who she liked out of me, and I wanted to tell her, but I didn't.

Suggestions?

[SPIDERMAN117]

Yes!!!! well now I have another siituation this girl likes me alot and like her alot but homecoming is this friday should I do it friday!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I Feel AWESOMEE!!!! she like The Dark knight and me dressing up like joker. She totally owns!!

[Honey Vibe]

Yes!!!! well now I have another siituation this girl likes me alot and like her alot but homecoming is this friday should I do it friday!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I Feel AWESOMEE!!!! she like The Dark knight and me dressing up like joker. She totally owns!!
Nothing to it but to do it, right?

[Honey Vibe]

DOUBLE POST
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[Honey Vibe]

meh then that sucks... who'd wanna date someone who doesn't show affection?
It takes time to find the perfect definition of "affection" that satisfies both partners.

[Knightsaber Priss]

This will be my last post here because I'm just too depressed right now to do anything at all. The only thing I really have to say is that if I cannot have the one I love, then I will never love again because I just cannot put myself through this pain and torture. This scum hole place I live in has nothing to offer me anyway besides small minded people who think they're more important than they really are.

[Gilpesh]

This will be my last post here because I'm just too depressed right now to do anything at all. The only thing I really have to say is that if I cannot have the one I love, then I will never love again because I just cannot put myself through this pain and torture. This scum hole place I live in has nothing to offer me anyway besides small minded people who think they're more important than they really are.

HEY! STOP! WRONG!




Don't think that way. :o

Now watch some funny youtube videos, stat.

[aaron]

hes 14 and he cant get a date
his life is obviously over
suicide is the only way

[kainedamo]

So I've been friends with this girl for a few years now. Just friends, and that's all I am now and all I want to be and all she wants to be, rather obviously because she has a boyfriend. Anyway, last night, we were talking and apparently her boyfriend doesn't like her talking to me. She still wanted to talk to me, and of course I wanted to still talk to her because I look to her a lot for advice on whatever and as someone to talk to if I'm having a rough day. But she felt that we couldn't talk without her feeling guilty about it because apparently her boyfriend doesn't know we still talk. I completely understand, and, even though it was one of the hardest things to do in my life, I said if it made things better for her and her relationship, we could stop talking...and so we have. And, I don't know...the whole thing may sound dumb, but it's been a really tough day...I'm the kind of guy who thinks that just because you're in a relationship doesn't mean that you give up all your friends of the opposite sex. Any ideas what to do? Or do you think I did the right thing?

I think you did the wrong thing.

I think you should have manned up, and told her straight that any guy that would make her ditch her friends is a loser. But you should make it clear the choice is hers. Do you really want to be with a guy that makes you ditch your friends?

That's what you should have done.

[adhokk7]

hes 14 and he cant get a date
his life is obviously over
suicide is the only way

This is a very poor excuse for a haiku.

[November Rain]

This will be my last post here because I'm just too depressed right now to do anything at all. The only thing I really have to say is that if I cannot have the one I love, then I will never love again because I just cannot put myself through this pain and torture. This scum hole place I live in has nothing to offer me anyway besides small minded people who think they're more important than they really are.
Ugh, Zilla really?

one day you'll look back at this post and realise you're an idiot, for all the right reasons.

[November Rain]

Well, for a couple years now, I liked this girl in my school. We've known eachother since the 1st grade and now we're sophmores. We've had a few conversations but nothing groundbreaking. I remember she too saw Indy 4 and she said it was "the best movie ever." I got excited like a baffoon and started to talk to her about it. But that's the thing. That's because she was in one of my classes last year. But now, she's in none of them. The only time I see her is in the hallway when she passes, or during lunch when she walks by. I'd like to ask her to do something, but with a scarce chance of getting the chance to talk to her I don't know what to do.

Plus, I'm always afraid to ask out girls because I'm not into sports and I know girls love the jocks or athletic guys. What the hell am I suppose to say to her when I tell her I like to read, write, draw, and collect and read comic books? To any girl for that matter? Like I said earlier, I can only talk about movies or comics in a conversation and I don't want to tell her I hate sports but I don't want to lie to her about it. And from her past boyfriends, they were athletic and once she even told me who she had a crush on. Who was also athletic. I remember she tried to get who she liked out of me, and I wanted to tell her, but I didn't.

Suggestions?
Don't go there with the lady, you've already missed your chance

as for reading writing and drawing, infact any hobby, it's not about what you say, it's about how you say.

People are attracted to other people with passion and charisma, you need to elaborate in this without coming across on addictive or perhaps either being too generic of concentrating on too many unnecessary details.

consider this

I like spiderman, i have 286 comics, i spent 3,000 dollars as them, i went to comiccon and took lost of pictures, bendis is an ass though.

Compared to this.

Now I realise spiderman is fiction but deep down underneath all that entertainment lies a message. A message that we can all do better and we have an obligation to do what we can for the better of society, without any sort of reward. It shows us how not fulfilling that duty leads to someone close to you getting hurt. Now I know I will never let anyone close to me get hurt from not giving life my all. Don't you think so? Besides it's nice to dress up and take out my lil brother for halloween, He idolises the dude and I get to spend more time with him.



It's ultimately the same person saying talking about comics but one is using it to relate to the other person while the first is ranting facts to impress (or apparently impress).

you just need to find the HOOK. Bring out your passion and let that auora of confidence take over in a very natural relaxed confident state.

no biggie.

[J. J. Jameson]

I think you did the wrong thing.

I think you should have manned up, and told her straight that any guy that would make her ditch her friends is a loser. But you should make it clear the choice is hers. Do you really want to be with a guy that makes you ditch your friends?

That's what you should have done.

Part of me feels like that, but at the same time, another part of me sees that they really are happy together. The guy has a hard time with people in general, and he and my friend compliment each other perfectly in a lot of ways. I don't know...I'd really just like to talk to him and tell him that I have no interest whatsoever in stealing his girl. I just don't want to lose one of my few good friends.

[Erzengel]

Your friend's boyfriend is really in a tough spot. I've had many a female friend in my time. And the question, how many male friends would sleep with you if you gave them the chance and the answer was like 90-100% yes.

However, there should always be a trust issue. My gf has a male friend and they hang out very infrequently.

The thing however about distrusting guys, especially ones with girlfriends who have male friends, is if they constantly distrust and try to keep tabs, it's like a self fulfilling prophecy, and those girls will go off and cheat because of it.

[Eggyman]

Nice point, erz. Also, a lot of people who are paranoid about their partner cheating are cheaters themselves - they show themselves how easily it can happen when they cheat.

'If I do it, do they?' *paranoid*

[amazingfantasy15]

Great. Now I'm gonna wonder why she hasn't responded to the text I sent her in response to her last text. Just great. I hate my brain.

Dude you need to calm down, there's a million reasons she doesn't respond right away. Just take a breath and learn to not worry so much. That being said, you should have called her, not texted in the first place, that's why she gave you her phone number. Texting is basically email, you need to have a real conversation with her. How far away is Derry? Next weekend, if it's not too far, you should see if she wants to meet somewhere halfway for a drink or coffee. Don't freak out if she doesn't respond in a couple minutes, also maybe you should think about not responding right away too or you will come off as too needy.

[amazingfantasy15]

So i went on a date with this guy friday night, we curled up, watched movies, he spent the night, we slept in till like noon, went to a costume store, dropped him off, he called me 3 hrs later to hang out again... and dropped him off at a friends around 10pm.. and said he'd prob call me later to sleep over again last night, well.. he didn't but only cuz he just explained to me he had a really craptastic night, which was understandable. NE who.. we enjoy spending time with eachother and i can tell a part of him likes me, but he seems kinda reserved to show affection... i kissed him, and he hardly kissed back and just kinda said, hes not much of a kisser...

now no one isnt "just not much of a kisser", but for some, kissing is the most intimate thing you can do, so i figure A) he simply isnt into me romantically B) he holds kissing so high that he's not sure if he likes me romantically or not yet, so didn't want to kiss to lead me on C) felt he had bad breath or D) i wasn't clean shaven, so maybe i was a lil prickly

Was this you first date with the guy and you're already having him spend the night? You really should try to play a little hard to get. Maybe you turned him off by not giving him any hint of a challenge.

[Eggyman]

That's a very good point, fantasy.

[Crook]

If there was any turn-off, I imagine it'd be because things were moving a bit fast for the guy. I know next to no one that actually gets turned off, on the spot of a date, because it wasn't a challenge. Hell, it's a freebie. People usually take it.

[AndThePickles]

Part of me feels like that, but at the same time, another part of me sees that they really are happy together. The guy has a hard time with people in general, and he and my friend compliment each other perfectly in a lot of ways. I don't know...I'd really just like to talk to him and tell him that I have no interest whatsoever in stealing his girl. I just don't want to lose one of my few good friends.

Yeah, I think that just talking to him would help a lot. It's hard not to get uneasy about friends of the opposite gender at times, and the guy has never even met you.

[J. J. Jameson]

Yeah, I think that just talking to him would help a lot. It's hard not to get uneasy about friends of the opposite gender at times, and the guy has never even met you.

See, that's the thing. I have met the guy. I've known him for years! I thought we were friends. I was friends with both of them before they started dating. That's what makes the whole thing so puzzling to me.

[AndThePickles]

See, that's the thing. I have met the guy. I've known him for years! I thought we were friends. I was friends with both of them before they started dating. That's what makes the whole thing so puzzling to me.

Oh wow, that is weird. I'd be confused too! Hopefully a conversation with him will help clear things up.

[J. J. Jameson]

Oh wow, that is weird. I'd be confused too! Hopefully a conversation with him will help clear things up.

Me too. Thanks for your advice :up:

[SLVRSR4]

Okay I've been in a relationship for about six months now and things are going great, but I want to do what is called cuckolding. Multiple partners in other terms. I'm curious how other people view on whether people think it is a good or bad thing for the relationship. In this case I want other partners for her. Eggyman excellent sig and avatar.

[spideyboy_1111]

Was this you first date with the guy and you're already having him spend the night? You really should try to play a little hard to get. Maybe you turned him off by not giving him any hint of a challenge.

lol, we agreed on spending the night before our date even started, cuz we were drinking...

hun were gay... its alot easier to get someone to spend the night, and majority of us are completely ok with it (only ones who arn't are the type who wanna $^$@ and run)

[spideyboy_1111]

It takes time to find the perfect definition of "affection" that satisfies both partners.

i'm a lil bummed right now though, he might have to move back to florida this week :( his landlord is kicking him out

[amazingfantasy15]

See, that's the thing. I have met the guy. I've known him for years! I thought we were friends. I was friends with both of them before they started dating. That's what makes the whole thing so puzzling to me.

That's really weird? Is there some past reason this guy has to mistrust you? Have you messed around with any of his or any friends previous girlfriends?

Okay I've been in a relationship for about six months now and things are going great, but I want to do what is called cuckolding. Multiple partners in other terms. I'm curious how other people view on whether people think it is a good or bad thing for the relationship. In this case I want other partners for her. Eggyman excellent sig and avatar.

So you want your girlfriend to mess around with other people? Or are you trying to introduce a three way?

lol, we agreed on spending the night before our date even started, cuz we were drinking...

hun were gay... its alot easier to get someone to spend the night, and majority of us are completely ok with it (only ones who arn't are the type who wanna $^$@ and run)

Sorry, didn't realize that was cool in the gay community. If it was me, I'd consider that girl a booty call and nothing else.

[J. J. Jameson]

That's really weird? Is there some past reason this guy has to mistrust you? Have you messed around with any of his or any friends previous girlfriends?

Never. I only am friends with a handful of his other friends, and they all happen to be guys.

[Gilpesh]

That's really weird? Is there some past reason this guy has to mistrust you? Have you messed around with any of his or any friends previous girlfriends?

Hmmm... maybe it is just that before those two went out, that friend was always thinking that she liked JJJ instead of him. And now because it looks like she picked him, he is trying to keep JJJ away from her just in case he assumed right.

[spideyboy_1111]

Sorry, didn't realize that was cool in the gay community. If it was me, I'd consider that girl a booty call and nothing else.

Booty calls you usually don't spend the evening with, sleep in with, spend most of the following day with...

booty calls are usually a "come over", screw, and then they leave either that night, or bright and early in the morning. Most people don't like sticking around when it's just sex

[J. J. Jameson]

Hmmm... maybe it is just that before those two went out, that friend was always thinking that she liked JJJ instead of him. And now because it looks like she picked him, he is trying to keep JJJ away from her just in case he assumed right.

That's kinda what I was thinking.

*sigh* Oh well. Things usually work out. Like I said, I'm hoping to have a chance to talk to him at some point in the near future.

[Gilpesh]

At least you have good taste JJJ. :up:

[amazingfantasy15]

Booty calls you usually don't spend the evening with, sleep in with, spend most of the following day with...

booty calls are usually a "come over", screw, and then they leave either that night, or bright and early in the morning. Most people don't like sticking around when it's just sex

Well, you've only gone out with him once right? Maybe he now has the impression that he can use you as a booty call and the next time you "go out" it will just be, you two do your business and that's it. I mean, just cause you were drinking didn't mean he had to stay over, you could have given him cab money, saying you want to take things slower.

[spideyboy_1111]

Well, you've only gone out with him once right? Maybe he now has the impression that he can use you as a booty call and the next time you "go out" it will just be, you two do your business and that's it. I mean, just cause you were drinking didn't mean he had to stay over, you could have given him cab money, saying you want to take things slower.

your still thinking strait.... we were completely cool with it.. and it wasnt a hookup atmosphere at all. We were both wanting to cuddle that night

[J. J. Jameson]

At least you have good taste JJJ. :up:

Thanks. I appreciate your input. :word:

[Gilpesh]

Thanks. I appreciate your input. :word:

X-Factor, awesome book... no matter how much Marvel tries to ruin it.

[AndThePickles]

your still thinking strait.... we were completely cool with it.. and it wasnt a hookup atmosphere at all. We were both wanting to cuddle that night

It really is possible that he just isn't a big fan of kissing. It is also harder for some people to kiss than to have sex...some consider it the ultimate form of intimacy. Maybe he just wants to get to know you better first?

[kainedamo]

It's so weird how I finally find a girl that seems to be interested in me, and she keeps disappearing off the face of the earth. I feel like I'm being messed with.

[J. J. Jameson]

X-Factor, awesome book... no matter how much Marvel tries to ruin it.

QFT :woot::up:

[Doctor Jones]

Don't go there with the lady, you've already missed your chance

as for reading writing and drawing, infact any hobby, it's not about what you say, it's about how you say.

People are attracted to other people with passion and charisma, you need to elaborate in this without coming across on addictive or perhaps either being too generic of concentrating on too many unnecessary details.

consider this

I like spiderman, i have 286 comics, i spent 3,000 dollars as them, i went to comiccon and took lost of pictures, bendis is an ass though.

Compared to this.

Now I realise spiderman is fiction but deep down underneath all that entertainment lies a message. A message that we can all do better and we have an obligation to do what we can for the better of society, without any sort of reward. It shows us how not fulfilling that duty leads to someone close to you getting hurt. Now I know I will never let anyone close to me get hurt from not giving life my all. Don't you think so? Besides it's nice to dress up and take out my lil brother for halloween, He idolises the dude and I get to spend more time with him.



It's ultimately the same person saying talking about comics but one is using it to relate to the other person while the first is ranting facts to impress (or apparently impress).

you just need to find the HOOK. Bring out your passion and let that auora of confidence take over in a very natural relaxed confident state.

no biggie.

Hmm. Good advice. Except I need to find a way to at least find a chance to talk to her. Because I only see her passing by me in the halls.

Plus, if there's any females on these boards, advice would be appreciated. Just read my post from a couple pages back.

[Ash J. Williams]

Going to tell her how I feel on Wednesday night and mention Homecoming dance.

[spideyboy_1111]

It really is possible that he just isn't a big fan of kissing. It is also harder for some people to kiss than to have sex...some consider it the ultimate form of intimacy. Maybe he just wants to get to know you better first?

could be, and that's what i'm hoping for...

[SLVRSR4]

So you want your girlfriend to mess around with other people? Or are you trying to introduce a three way?


The first part.

[amazingfantasy15]

It's so weird how I finally find a girl that seems to be interested in me, and she keeps disappearing off the face of the earth. I feel like I'm being messed with.

You really need to calm down, girls have their own lives, you can't expect them to always call right back, it may take a couple days. I think the most important thing right now is to talk to each on the phone, move away from texting and emails. Make definite plans the next time she's in town, just the two of you, not at a bar with a bunch of her friends. The first part though is to stop freaking out and wait for her to get back to you, you were the last to call right?

[amazingfantasy15]

So you want your girlfriend to mess around with other people? Or are you trying to introduce a three way?

The first part.

Why do you want your girlfriend to mess around with other people? I really don't understand that, you want to stay together right? But occasionally see other people?

[Angel_Faerie]

And my bad luck with guys continues...

Government Guy has a girlfriend. So I guess that's that. Surprisingly, I'm not all that upset because as I said, I wasn't head over heels for the guy at this point. I just thought he was cute and nice. But I guess being friends works too. And no, I didn't ask him if he had a girlfriend. We were talking and he brought it up.

[ttotheusher]

Yea, just be friends. Sometimes its nice to have a friend of the opposite sex, they help give you perspective.

Also, how you havent got a boyfriend when you've got a sig like that...the first girl who says that to me I'm marrying...:o:oldrazz::hehe:

[Savage]

And my bad luck with guys continues...

Government Guy has a girlfriend. So I guess that's that. Surprisingly, I'm not all that upset because as I said, I wasn't head over heels for the guy at this point. I just thought he was cute and nice. But I guess being friends works too. And no, I didn't ask him if he had a girlfriend. We were talking and he brought it up.

Checked your Myspace to see if you were cute but it said you're in a relationship and I immediately backed off. Just a heads up. :oldrazz:

[amazingfantasy15]

Checked your Myspace to see if you were cute but it said you're in a relationship and I immediately backed off. Just a heads up. :oldrazz:

Maybe there's a reason she says she's in a relationship on MySpace, to keep away creeps like you from hitting on her there. I know if I was a girl and had a MySpace account I'd have my status as that.

[Savage]

So any guy that hits on her through myspace is a creep? I was just pointing out that "In a relationship" probably scares off a lot of people that may be interested or that she may be interested in. You never know. I've had good relationships and friendships that started through sites like myspace and facebook.

Thanks, by the way, jerkwad.

[amazingfantasy15]

So any guy that hits on her through myspace is a creep? I was just pointing out that "In a relationship" probably scares off a lot of people that may be interested or that she may be interested in. You never know. I've had good relationships and friendships that started through sites like myspace and facebook.

Thanks, by the way, jerkwad.

Yeah, too bad they all ended with you talking to Chris Hanson though.

[Savage]

Hey, the law says 17 over here. :o

[KenK]

Asking out a co-worker: Yay or Nay?

[Peter_Porker]

Asking out a co-worker: Yay or Nay?

Depends on the policies at your workplace, it shouldn't be an issue, but some places are not keen on it.

[KenK]

Kinda hoping for a little more insight than that. I know enough that work policies would be the least of my worries.

[amazingfantasy15]

Kinda hoping for a little more insight than that. I know enough that work policies would be the least of my worries.

It could work, I know people on both sides. Some that started dating and got married and still work in the same office, others that haven't worked out. I think the main thing is to be able to maintain a professional relationship at work. Also that you're at the same level or if you're not that you aren't working on the same project or account.

[Ash J. Williams]

Looks like me showing her how a real man treats a lady as well as dancing with her at Homecoming is a possibilty.

[Angel_Faerie]

I'm not sure if any of you remember the boy I met in summer school that I ended up liking, but he and I have been spending time together all year. Mainly just talking as we walk to our separate classes. Sometimes I see him wandering around during my 3rd Hour and we also talk then. The latter is how I found him today after unsuccessfully trying to find him yesterday. I had been mulling over the idea of asking him to the Girl's Choice dance, and decided it was worth a shot. I asked him, and he said yes!! OMG!! I'm going to a dance with a boy! This has never happened before! I don't know what to do and I don't know if this is a real date or just a friends thing. I was not expecting this!! AAH!!

[CFE]

I'm not sure if any of you remember the boy I met in summer school that I ended up liking, but he and I have been spending time together all year. Mainly just talking as we walk to our separate classes. Sometimes I see him wandering around during my 3rd Hour and we also talk then. The latter is how I found him today after unsuccessfully trying to find him yesterday. I had been mulling over the idea of asking him to the Girl's Choice dance, and decided it was worth a shot. I asked him, and he said yes!! OMG!! I'm going to a dance with a boy! This has never happened before! I don't know what to do and I don't know if this is a real date or just a friends thing. I was not expecting this!! AAH!!

:up:

Don't think about it too much...instead be happy and have a good time!

CFE

[SLVRSR4]

Why do you want your girlfriend to mess around with other people? I really don't understand that, you want to stay together right? But occasionally see other people?

I just want her to see other people. I have a few reasons for why I'd like her to, but not one that just stands out amongst the others. I guess I don't have too much emphasis about sex in the relationship. I love her for completely different reasons than that.

[Ash J. Williams]

I'm not sure if any of you remember the boy I met in summer school that I ended up liking, but he and I have been spending time together all year. Mainly just talking as we walk to our separate classes. Sometimes I see him wandering around during my 3rd Hour and we also talk then. The latter is how I found him today after unsuccessfully trying to find him yesterday. I had been mulling over the idea of asking him to the Girl's Choice dance, and decided it was worth a shot. I asked him, and he said yes!! OMG!! I'm going to a dance with a boy! This has never happened before! I don't know what to do and I don't know if this is a real date or just a friends thing. I was not expecting this!! AAH!!
I can relate, except for with a girl.

[Savage]

What does it mean when a girl all of a sudden shuts you out? I mean cold shoulder, doesn't want to kiss or hold hands, just completely indifferent. I'm out with her yesterday and her answers to everything are "Yeah, no, idk. *shrugs*". She wasn't like this before but yesterday the slightest touch caused her to shy her way or turn or shift a little. I thought she was mad at me but she says she wasn't and that she has no problem with anything I'm doing so I'm left...completely confused.

[Erzengel]

Sometimes it's best to not try and make logic out of the illogical. LOL

The answer is she does have a problem, but she doesn't want to tell you about it. It may or may not concern you, but either way you have to wait til she wants to open up and talk to you about it. But, she will solve her own problem, not tell you about it, and she will do a 180 on her attitude towards you.

[November Rain]

Asking out a co-worker: Yay or Nay?
wait till xmas party and see what happens.

don't say anything that would come across as more than casual flirting and see where it takes you.

[kainedamo]

What does it mean when a girl all of a sudden shuts you out? I mean cold shoulder, doesn't want to kiss or hold hands, just completely indifferent. I'm out with her yesterday and her answers to everything are "Yeah, no, idk. *shrugs*". She wasn't like this before but yesterday the slightest touch caused her to shy her way or turn or shift a little. I thought she was mad at me but she says she wasn't and that she has no problem with anything I'm doing so I'm left...completely confused.

This behaviour is a mystery to me.

[November Rain]

What does it mean when a girl all of a sudden shuts you out? I mean cold shoulder, doesn't want to kiss or hold hands, just completely indifferent. I'm out with her yesterday and her answers to everything are "Yeah, no, idk. *shrugs*". She wasn't like this before but yesterday the slightest touch caused her to shy her way or turn or shift a little. I thought she was mad at me but she says she wasn't and that she has no problem with anything I'm doing so I'm left...completely confused.
ride it out and act relatively normal, being too nice could make it worse.

she'll tell you when she's ready.

[AndThePickles]

What does it mean when a girl all of a sudden shuts you out? I mean cold shoulder, doesn't want to kiss or hold hands, just completely indifferent. I'm out with her yesterday and her answers to everything are "Yeah, no, idk. *shrugs*". She wasn't like this before but yesterday the slightest touch caused her to shy her way or turn or shift a little. I thought she was mad at me but she says she wasn't and that she has no problem with anything I'm doing so I'm left...completely confused.

It sounds like she's possibly lost interest in you.

[kainedamo]

I wish I could turn gay :o I bet I could bag a dude like that. I've been felt up or chatted up by numerous gay men.

[Erzengel]

Go for it. :up:

[JLBats]

Just the fact that you posted it probably indicates things in your love life have gotten so dire that you're actually considering it.

Which is just...pathetic...:huh:

Bwahahahaha.

[kainedamo]

Men are easy because they just want sex. Once sex is in their minds, they are yours!

[JLBats]

...I don't know who you're trying to talk into this.

[Erzengel]

Pssssstt....Kaine. Women want sex too.

[Erzengel]

...I don't know who you're trying to talk into this.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3c/Love_Connection2.jpg

[kainedamo]

Pssssstt....Kaine. Women want sex too.

Yeah but like, they pretend they don't, or they're very subtle about it.

No woman is gonna go up in a club and start feeling you up.

In a gay club, this guy wouldn't ****ing get off me, even after I told him I was straight. Women don't really do that.

Another example. I was at this sort of metal bar and this dude gravitated towards this girl, and his crotch actually moved out from the rest of his body into her general direction once he got closer to her.

[JLBats]

...:dry:

I-I-I... am... STUNNED... that you've found such a unique and compelling solution to your problem with women:huh:

It definitely, um... changes things up.
I recommend you pursue this.
Good luck.

:up:

[Erzengel]

Yeah but like, they pretend they don't, or they're very subtle about it.

No woman is gonna go up in a club and start feeling you up.

In a gay club, this guy wouldn't ****ing get off me, even after I told him I was straight. Women don't really do that.

Another example. I was at this sort of metal bar and this dude gravitated towards this girl, and his crotch actually moved out from the rest of his body into her general direction once he got closer to her.
So why don't you just take the next step and become gay? :huh:

[kainedamo]

Because men aren't women :(

[JLBats]

Because men aren't women :(

No. From your argument

they're better

[Crook]

In a gay club, this guy wouldn't ****ing get off me, even after I told him I was straight.
Maybe you shouldn't hang out in gay clubs. :huh:

[Savage]

It sounds like she's possibly lost interest in you.

I thought so too (still do actually) but I asked and she said she hasn't so maybe she was just lying to shut me up or she really still does but takes issue with something. I don't know how it works.

Oh and she completely hasn't bothered even trying to talk to me today so that doesn't help my feeling that she's lost interest.

[kainedamo]

I thought so too (still do actually) but I asked and she said she hasn't so maybe she was just lying to shut me up or she really still does but takes issue with something. I don't know how it works.

Oh and she completely hasn't bothered even trying to talk to me today so that doesn't help my feeling that she's lost interest.

Maybe something is on her mind.

Try to get her to open up, Or maybe give her some space. If she's still behaving like this a week or two from now with no explanation you should probably consider ending it.


I could give you my email address so we can discuss it further. I'm a VERY good listener.

[Erzengel]

Ignore her. Don't run after her, let her come to you.

[Savage]

Yeah. Yesterday I ended up trying to get her to open up, which seemed like a natural enough thing to do, but all that did was annoy her. Hell, everything I did after that annoyed her so obviously when it was time to say goodbye once her train was boarding, not even a goodbye kiss. :csad: Spent our last few hours together that day just being quiet next to each other in the trainstation and minding our own business with me saying something every now and then in hopes that she'll crack a smile or something.

I should probably add that she wasn't feeling too well but this behavior started even before that so I'm not sure how it fits in.

[Eggyman]

Kaine, lol, after all the revelations about your gay bar encounters... and wanting men instead of women because woman aren't interested in you but men are, I think you should be nice to Savage and not give him any advice. :)

You're a nice guy, but if it's bad enough for you to consider playing for the other team, it's bad enough for you to leave Savage alone.

... lol

[terry78]

Yeah. Yesterday I ended up trying to get her to open up, which seemed like a natural enough thing to do, but all that did was annoy her. Hell, everything I did after that annoyed her so obviously when it was time to say goodbye once her train was boarding, not even a goodbye kiss. :csad: Spent our last few hours together that day just being quiet next to each other in the trainstation and minding our own business with me saying something every now and then in hopes that she'll crack a smile or something.

I should probably add that she wasn't feeling too well but this behavior started even before that so I'm not sure how it fits in.

Dames. Who can figure 'em out?

[amazingfantasy15]

I'm not sure if any of you remember the boy I met in summer school that I ended up liking, but he and I have been spending time together all year. Mainly just talking as we walk to our separate classes. Sometimes I see him wandering around during my 3rd Hour and we also talk then. The latter is how I found him today after unsuccessfully trying to find him yesterday. I had been mulling over the idea of asking him to the Girl's Choice dance, and decided it was worth a shot. I asked him, and he said yes!! OMG!! I'm going to a dance with a boy! This has never happened before! I don't know what to do and I don't know if this is a real date or just a friends thing. I was not expecting this!! AAH!!

Congrats on this. I don't think there's any real way to confuse going to a dance as a just friends thing as long as you didn't add "just as friends" when you asked him.

[Erzengel]

Congrats on this. I don't think there's any real way to confuse going to a dance as a just friends thing as long as you didn't add "just as friends" when you asked him.

Not always. There was a girl who asked me to the senior prom, I knew she was asking me just as friends even though she didn't say it. I knew she wasn't interested in me that way.

[Angel_Faerie]

Congrats on this. I don't think there's any real way to confuse going to a dance as a just friends thing as long as you didn't add "just as friends" when you asked him.

I didn't add "just as friends" when I asked, but that doesn't mean he doesn't think of it that way. Let me give you a good example. I asked a boy I liked to Lunch once. He said yes, then called the next day said he was going to see a movie with his grandma and wondered if I wanted to come. I said sure. I get there, and all of his siblings are there with him! I was so angry. I didn't even get to sit next to him.

[KenK]

wait till xmas party and see what happens.

don't say anything that would come across as more than casual flirting and see where it takes you.

Good idea. Sucks, 'cause that's a good two months away. Too much time for stuff to happen. And I know there's apparently another person in our company that others are trying to set her up with, but he's working overseas right now. I need to plant seeds before he gets back .

[Savage]

EDIT: Wrong. Thread.

[fabman]

Remember me? Anyway, here's part one of the story... I had already posted on here:

Ok, guys... this one is tricky - and it's also my fault - but I wanna make up for it.

There was this gal who wanted me... so... you know how it is when you become so "secure" about something that you don't even care about it?

Well, that's what happened she's kinda "over me" since two days ago... haven't heard anything from here since... and that's when you usually realise how much you like someone...

What do YOU guys think 'bout the situation?

PS: I know I'm an a**hole...

I don't think anyone cares, anyway... updates from me. Sent her a txt today, she doesn't answer. Well, watcha gonna do.. that's life! I totally ****ed up!

Part 2:

I saw her and she didn't answer to my txt 'cause she had no money on her phone. After that, nothing really happened... you know, we would just talk and stuff... one day she complained that I wouldn't txt her, call her... whatever. Then I had nothing to do, so I txted her... she didn't answer. Saw her a few days after that. She told me "she couldn't answer" (you couldn't answer? In 48 hrs? Huuuh!?), same day she was with another guy... I don't get this damn girl. I don't get her.

First she complains? Then she doesn't answer... then... WTF!? Is there a hidden camera anywhere!?

[amazingfantasy15]

Remember me? Anyway, here's part one of the story... I had already posted on here:

Part 2:

I saw her and she didn't answer to my txt 'cause she had no money on her phone. After that, nothing really happened... you know, we would just talk and stuff... one day she complained that I wouldn't txt her, call her... whatever. Then I had nothing to do, so I txted her... she didn't answer. Saw her a few days after that. She told me "she couldn't answer" (you couldn't answer? In 48 hrs? Huuuh!?), same day she was with another guy... I don't get this damn girl. I don't get her.

First she complains? Then she doesn't answer... then... WTF!? Is there a hidden camera anywhere!?

So, how's it feel to be on the other side of the situation. She's moved on, knows you finally noticed her and might be getting a little revenge now. Told you it was a bad idea to pursue her in that way.

[kainedamo]

lol I keep getting crazy emails from "women" in Africa asking me to send them money, while expressing their desire to be with me :huh:

[gap5ewl]

lol I keep getting crazy emails from "women" in Africa asking me to send them money, while expressing their desire to be with me :huh:

Go for it! you've got nothing to lose..except your account.

[UA-Archangel]

lol I keep getting crazy emails from "women" in Africa asking me to send them money, while expressing their desire to be with me :huh:

There's supposed to be somebody for everybody, so go for it.

[ttotheusher]

It was kinda awkward at work today with this girl I fancy. The new girl picked up on the fact that I liked her, and proceeded to shour her mouth off. Automatically, my crush says "You dont fancy me, do you?". "Errr...no?" I replied. It was really awkward, and kinda insensitive on her part considering I've told her a few times that I do in fact, like her. Why aren't people more receptive of other peoples feelings?

[terry78]

It was kinda awkward at work today with this girl I fancy. The new girl picked up on the fact that I liked her, and proceeded to shour her mouth off. Automatically, my crush says "You dont fancy me, do you?". "Errr...no?" I replied. It was really awkward, and kinda insensitive on her part considering I've told her a few times that I do in fact, like her. Why aren't people more receptive of other peoples feelings?

You kinda ****ed that chance up right there. You were supposed to tell her that you did indeed fancy her. She put you on the spot, put her ass on the spot.

[ttotheusher]

You kinda ****ed that chance up right there. You were supposed to tell her that you did indeed fancy her. She put you on the spot, put her ass on the spot.

The thing is, I have indeed already told her I liked her, and she shot me down...twice.

[Eggyman]

It was kinda awkward at work today with this girl I fancy. The new girl picked up on the fact that I liked her, and proceeded to shour her mouth off. Automatically, my crush says "You dont fancy me, do you?". "Errr...no?" I replied. It was really awkward, and kinda insensitive on her part considering I've told her a few times that I do in fact, like her. Why aren't people more receptive of other peoples feelings?

More receptive? I think people are generally receptive, it's just that some people are extra sensitive about these things.

My advice? Loosen up a little. Relax.

Next time a girl says 'You don't fancy me, do you?' you should reply by saying, 'Yes I do, you smecksy biotch.'

Then smile at her.

Have fun with it. And feel free to minus the 'you smecksy biotch' from the end of the sentence if your judgement deems it unfit ;)

Be a lil playful maybe :oldrazz:

[ttotheusher]

I probably should, your right. I get nervous, what can I say?

[JaD]

So what's everyone's thoughts on the God forbidden....*dramatic music*

Friend Zone :shock

[ttotheusher]

So what's the general consensus on the God forbidden....*dramatic music*

Friend Zone :shock

General concensus?

I feel like General Zod I've been stuck in there so long.

[Eggyman]

I probably should, your right. I get nervous, what can I say?

Knock her off the pedestal you must! Great she may be, but just another person she is. Realise this, and nervous... you will be... no more.


http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/7712/sw2rv9.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[ttotheusher]

Knock her off the pedestal you must! Great she may be, but just another person she is. Realise this, and nervous... you will be... no more.


http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/7712/sw2rv9.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Yea usually I'm fine around her. We banter and such, but put me under pressure...and I sank faster than the Titanic.

[JaD]

General concensus?

I feel like General Zod I've been stuck in there so long.
Or I just mean everyone's thoughts, my bad :oldrazz:

[Eggyman]

Don't worry about it then. I guess you were just wrong footed by the subject being brought up so suddenly.

Now that it's been brought up, it's more likely to be mentioned again...

Be ready :eek:

[ttotheusher]

Or I just mean everyone's thoughts, my bad :oldrazz:

It was just my thoughts, others are free to contribute.

Don't worry about it then. I guess you were just wrong footed by the subject being brought up so suddenly.

Now that it's been brought up, it's more likely to be mentioned again...

Be ready :eek:

I got you. (Dons ninja outfit and prooceeds to wait)

[Savage]

So what's the general consensus on the God forbidden....*dramatic music*

Friend Zone :shock

My thoughts? I think you're hurting yourself sticking around being friends with someone you have strong feelings for who doesn't reciprocate those feelings. Girl finally told me she didn't like me anymore, wanted to stay friends, I told her I can't do that. So I tell her goodbye and of course her response is "Wow ok loser".

...Been kind of a crummy week for me. :csad:

[JaD]

My thoughts? I think you're hurting yourself sticking around being friends with someone you have strong feelings for who doesn't reciprocate those feelings. Girl finally told me she didn't like me anymore, wanted to stay friends, I told her I can't do that. So I tell her goodbye and of course her response is "Wow ok loser".

...Been kind of a crummy week for me. :csad:
I've known a girl since Jr. High (about 8 or 9 years) and we've been hanging out alot lately. She does have a boyfriend (the last 3 times she referred to him though, it was my "bf, or ex, or whatever"), but just the fact that she wants to be around me so much makes me feel good, but it's just confusing when I get the feeling I may just be right there in the friend zone, the devil's merry-go-round. :bh: Been watching for those signs and signals that would confirm it, but just not sure. And I don't want to waste any more time.

[Savage]

And that's why the straightforward approach is always best so you can get it out of the way instead of letting this grow into something bigger. I mean you don't want to end up hurting yourself here.

[terry78]

Like Chris Rock said, every woman wants the backup male friend. Everything a boyfriend is, except the getting in her pants part.

[UA-Archangel]

So what's everyone's thoughts on the God forbidden....*dramatic music*

Friend Zone :shock

A woman will consider a guy as a friend, if he's still a possibility, provided that she can't find somebody more suitable.

I'm in the notachance zone.

[KenK]

So we're trying to get a new copier machine at my job, and the representative from Canon is kinda hot. A good contingency while I mull over what to do about my crush on my co-worker, right?

[Rando]

not much to say here...

bye!

[NoName86]

I have a question, and I'd like a woman's opinion on this.

So I have a friend, and her and I have been really close for about 3 months now. We are good friends, but have decided that we are going to leave things open so potential for a relationship is there. Anyways, this confuses me...the being friends but seeing where it goes because I never actually know what she is thinking/feeling towards me and us. It's no secret to her that I have very strong feelings for her, and she says and does things that make me think the same, but I am never actually sure.

I don't want to do something stupid and make things awkward, thus I haven't gotten really deep with her or anything. So I ask you to put yourself in her shoes, and tell me what you think I should do.

[November Rain]

provide no emotions, let alcohol lead your way maybe into some drunken kissing

if you lay your feelings on the line before hand, it is all goign to go badly.

If i'm being truthful, if you have been carrying secret feelings for this lady, she's not really your friend and you should be ready to severe contact, if not you need to get your feelings in order and be ready to continue your friendship.

oh and stop feeling that your passion needs to be reciprocated, you will subconciously come across as insecure which is the world's biggest turn off.

I know you won't take any of this in but that's your call.

[Nirvana]

I'm not really sure why I'm going to tell this story, I guess it's just one of those things I need to get out. Not asking for advice on the matter, just telling a story I suppose. Any ways, so here's how it goes:

So back in May I broke up with my girlfriend (I talked about it on here). It was pretty strange how we did actually, because even though we broke up we were very close and still friends. Even though we broke up, sometimes we would still fool around, too. We still called each other every night, hung out a lot, and told each other everything. Some nights I would just come over to her house and we'd just lay in bed talking and such, it was pretty nice. We broke up because in a way she started to become possessive of me. So we broke up, and pretty much I told her that when I matured a bit more I would definitely go back to her which she happily agreed and when we would, it would definitely be a pretty serious relationship. Also, I have to throw out (I'm sure I mentioned it before) I was her first everything. First boyfriend, first kiss, lost her virginity to me, etc. Essentially, she's not easy at all and doesn't fool around with anyone. So now that I told a little bit about her here's what happened.

Yesterday was my Brother's 21st Birthday Party. A lot of good friends were there and the drinks flowed and we all had a great time. I got a little drunk and me and her were sitting on a chair together and we went into another room and started to make out. Her brother caught us so we went back into the main room and all just kind of ****ed around. So as the night progressed I started to sober up and I was talking to her and she was telling me I was drunk (which at the moment I wasn't) and that I need to lay down. So me, her, her brother, and one of my really good friends are all sitting on the couch watching other friends run around drunk. Eventually, the next thing I know is that my friend and her start to flirt hella lot, which they never have before. The next thing I know is they get up and leave. I happen to be with another friend at the moment, so I started to look for them oblivious. I go out to my car to get my contact solution, and I see them in the driveway sitting there making out. I didn't do anything about it, but it was such a strange feeling. We're not dating, so I'm not sure why I feel betrayed. Not to mention the fact that we were just making out earlier and she's not a **** whatsoever. I just had this really strong feeling kind of like I was betrayed. I was pretty upset so I found one of my sober friends (I wasn't okay enough to drive, but not completely drunk) and told me to drive me home. When she saw that I was leaving she walked over to the passenger side where I was and I just rolled up the window. This morning when I woke up I hear from my brother and a friend that they eventually ended up in a room together doing who knows what.

I probably sound like the ass**** in this story, but I guess I am for feeling this way even though we're not dating. But you know, I feel kind of better now that I typed this, so I guess letting it all out really does help.

[Ronny Shade]

kill the guy and make it look like an accident

[ttotheusher]

Acid, I suggest. Just dont do it in a bathtub, has to be plastic.

Seriously, I would fathom a guess that because you were still pretty close, you felt betrayed.

[Ronny Shade]

this kinda **** is why I don't date.

[November Rain]

suck it up nirvana, you do the crime, you do the time.

It's never easy seing any ex with anyone else but you should be a man about it and let it slide,

just make sure you define your borders properly, when a break up isn't a clean one and there's a lot of grey, feelings get in the way.

let her have her fun and date around, if it's meant to be, you'll end up back together in the long run, if not so be it. life's too short to mope over a single lady or fella

[Savage]

Hey is it possible for one bad moment to kill all feelings one has for another? I know one bad moment can kill a relationship but even then I believe it would take time for both parties to get over each other. Is it possible that things can be going great (let's say for a year) and all of a sudden a person can be just...turned off of the other out of the blue? I'm asking because this girl has left me completely confused.

[Nirvana]

suck it up nirvana, you do the crime, you do the time.

It's never easy seing any ex with anyone else but you should be a man about it and let it slide,

just make sure you define your borders properly, when a break up isn't a clean one and there's a lot of grey, feelings get in the way.

let her have her fun and date around, if it's meant to be, you'll end up back together in the long run, if not so be it. life's too short to mope over a single lady or fella

I totally agree with you, Which is why I haven't said nor plan on saying anything about the matter. Hence, I have "let it slide".

[Ash J. Williams]

So what's everyone's thoughts on the God forbidden....*dramatic music*

Friend Zone :shock
I guess it's OK if you're like me and the girl you like doesn't want a boyfriend because she got pretty hurt in her last relationship and she's pretty busy with school. In a way, it's for the best of things because she wouldn't have time for me.

But at least she's letting dance with her at Homecoming, provided I get a guest pass.

[Angel_Faerie]

Holy ****. Later in the week I might be going to dinner with the boy I'm going to Girl's Choice with. I called him a few minutes ago and asked him if he wanted to go to dinner, and he said yeah, but he had plans tonight with his band, so he'll talk to me tomorrow at school to figure out a better night. I am freaking out, but in a good way.

[terry78]

I think we need to stop acting like Woody Allen with women and start acting like Woody Harrelson...not the real life hemp one, but the characters in his movies. :o


:dry:

[ttotheusher]

I was going for Dirk Benedict actually.

[Erzengel]

I have a question, and I'd like a woman's opinion on this.

So I have a friend, and her and I have been really close for about 3 months now. We are good friends, but have decided that we are going to leave things open so potential for a relationship is there. Anyways, this confuses me...the being friends but seeing where it goes because I never actually know what she is thinking/feeling towards me and us. It's no secret to her that I have very strong feelings for her, and she says and does things that make me think the same, but I am never actually sure.

I don't want to do something stupid and make things awkward, thus I haven't gotten really deep with her or anything. So I ask you to put yourself in her shoes, and tell me what you think I should do.

I'm not a woman, but I read this to the girl and you may need to provide a little bit more information. What exactly did she say?

I have a feeling that it's her decision that you guys "keeping things open" and not yours.

I think either a) she's seeing if there is a BBD (bigger, better deal) or b) maybe she's just not as much into you as you are into her (relationship wise).

[Erzengel]

I'm not really sure why I'm going to tell this story, I guess it's just one of those things I need to get out. Not asking for advice on the matter, just telling a story I suppose. Any ways, so here's how it goes:

So back in May I broke up with my girlfriend (I talked about it on here). It was pretty strange how we did actually, because even though we broke up we were very close and still friends. Even though we broke up, sometimes we would still fool around, too. We still called each other every night, hung out a lot, and told each other everything. Some nights I would just come over to her house and we'd just lay in bed talking and such, it was pretty nice. We broke up because in a way she started to become possessive of me. So we broke up, and pretty much I told her that when I matured a bit more I would definitely go back to her which she happily agreed and when we would, it would definitely be a pretty serious relationship. Also, I have to throw out (I'm sure I mentioned it before) I was her first everything. First boyfriend, first kiss, lost her virginity to me, etc. Essentially, she's not easy at all and doesn't fool around with anyone. So now that I told a little bit about her here's what happened.

Yesterday was my Brother's 21st Birthday Party. A lot of good friends were there and the drinks flowed and we all had a great time. I got a little drunk and me and her were sitting on a chair together and we went into another room and started to make out. Her brother caught us so we went back into the main room and all just kind of ****ed around. So as the night progressed I started to sober up and I was talking to her and she was telling me I was drunk (which at the moment I wasn't) and that I need to lay down. So me, her, her brother, and one of my really good friends are all sitting on the couch watching other friends run around drunk. Eventually, the next thing I know is that my friend and her start to flirt hella lot, which they never have before. The next thing I know is they get up and leave. I happen to be with another friend at the moment, so I started to look for them oblivious. I go out to my car to get my contact solution, and I see them in the driveway sitting there making out. I didn't do anything about it, but it was such a strange feeling. We're not dating, so I'm not sure why I feel betrayed. Not to mention the fact that we were just making out earlier and she's not a **** whatsoever. I just had this really strong feeling kind of like I was betrayed. I was pretty upset so I found one of my sober friends (I wasn't okay enough to drive, but not completely drunk) and told me to drive me home. When she saw that I was leaving she walked over to the passenger side where I was and I just rolled up the window. This morning when I woke up I hear from my brother and a friend that they eventually ended up in a room together doing who knows what.

I probably sound like the ass**** in this story, but I guess I am for feeling this way even though we're not dating. But you know, I feel kind of better now that I typed this, so I guess letting it all out really does help.

First off, what she did was technically not cheat on you because you weren't a couple.

Secondly, your friend is an a'hole for making out and presumably more with your ex-gf, and I honestly would have hit him and washed my hands of him.

Lastly, your ex is a bit of a strumpet. Any girl that hooks up with 2 guys in one night, not the type of girl you wanna bring home. Maybe if you want to bang her again, but I'd advise you to double wrap it up, but I don't see why you would want to get in a relationship with this girl again.

[UA-Archangel]

Hey is it possible for one bad moment to kill all feelings one has for another? I know one bad moment can kill a relationship but even then I believe it would take time for both parties to get over each other. Is it possible that things can be going great (let's say for a year) and all of a sudden a person can be just...turned off of the other out of the blue? I'm asking because this girl has left me completely confused.

You can't ever. If you've bonded with another person in anyway, than it never really goes away. That's why successive sexual relationships is so damaging to people.

You can only really re-direct it, keep it under control.

[NoName86]

I'm not a woman, but I read this to the girl and you may need to provide a little bit more information. What exactly did she say?

I have a feeling that it's her decision that you guys "keeping things open" and not yours.

I think either a) she's seeing if there is a BBD (bigger, better deal) or b) maybe she's just not as much into you as you are into her (relationship wise).

Yeah, you're probably right actually. No biggie, I think her and I kinda make a good pair anyways, whether it being good friends or something more. I'm not pressed if it doesn't turn into a relationship really, but I agree with what you are saying. Maybe I need to back off and just let it play out whichever way it happens to.

[Savage]

You can't ever. If you've bonded with another person in anyway, than it never really goes away. That's why successive sexual relationships is so damaging to people.

You can only really re-direct it, keep it under control.

Thanks. Turns out she was lying about that anyway and still likes me but is completely...bi-polar--she's crazy. I keep attracting crazy chicks for some reason and this chick's been loopy for a few weeks. She got mad at me for implying that her cat might be gay.

[Erzengel]

Hey is it possible for one bad moment to kill all feelings one has for another? I know one bad moment can kill a relationship but even then I believe it would take time for both parties to get over each other. Is it possible that things can be going great (let's say for a year) and all of a sudden a person can be just...turned off of the other out of the blue? I'm asking because this girl has left me completely confused.
I think she wasn't communicating with you. It wasn't "out of the blue" for her, it was probably something festering that she just didn't tell you about but it was bothering her. That's a lack of communication on her part and not necessarily yours, I mean you aren't a mind reader, how were you suppose to know everything was fine? Unless, you know things now in hindsight that you might not have picked up on.

[Savage]

I think she wasn't communicating with you. It wasn't "out of the blue" for her, it was probably something festering that she just didn't tell you about but it was bothering her. That's a lack of communication on her part and not necessarily yours, I mean you aren't a mind reader, how were you suppose to know everything was fine? Unless, you know things now in hindsight that you might not have picked up on.
Yeah, I'd ask her if everything is fine when she's clearly upset and she'd just tell me that things are great. I really don't know what's up. One day she tells me that she doesn't like me anymore and then last night she tells me she does but she's just not in love with me (which is actually a subject I never thought about with her since it's barely been a year and that's a little soon for me anyway). So I really don't know what's up with her. She's very...vague and doesn't let her emotions out much and usually has her arms crossed or hands in her pockets or something. She claims it's shyness but come on. After a year? This is something else. I shouldn't have to ask my own girlfriend if she still has interest in me. That's just how closed in she is.

[Erzengel]

Communication is one of the Big 3 along with Trust and Intimacy. You really do need all 3 to have a successful relationship. If she doesn't want to open up to you after a year, there's only so much you can do as a person. If you told her how you felt and she comes back with the "I love you but I'm not in love with you." statement, it's pretty much black and white. I'd say goodbye and move on. I know though, you kinda want a reason but if she's not willing to open up, I'd say you just try and forget about it.

[November Rain]

Hey is it possible for one bad moment to kill all feelings one has for another? I know one bad moment can kill a relationship but even then I believe it would take time for both parties to get over each other. Is it possible that things can be going great (let's say for a year) and all of a sudden a person can be just...turned off of the other out of the blue? I'm asking because this girl has left me completely confused.
yes it is, don't take it personally or try and find reasons.

you'll probably put lots of effort into it and then realise it's soemthing stupid which should really be a reflection of the person you were with's character.

however if it keeps happening, then it's time to look deep in yourself and realise you're an ******* and start making plans to change things.

[AndThePickles]

Yeah, I'd ask her if everything is fine when she's clearly upset and she'd just tell me that things are great. I really don't know what's up. One day she tells me that she doesn't like me anymore and then last night she tells me she does but she's just not in love with me (which is actually a subject I never thought about with her since it's barely been a year and that's a little soon for me anyway). So I really don't know what's up with her. She's very...vague and doesn't let her emotions out much and usually has her arms crossed or hands in her pockets or something. She claims it's shyness but come on. After a year? This is something else. I shouldn't have to ask my own girlfriend if she still has interest in me. That's just how closed in she is.

Actually, after a year I'm really surprised that "love" hasn't come up :huh: But only you know what's normal for you.

It sounds like she has some serious emotional problems...you need to have a long talk about communication. If things can't get settled, sounds like it might be time to move on, because I agree, when you get to the point where you are constantly wondering "Is she interested in me?", that's really bad :csad:

[amazingfantasy15]

It was kinda awkward at work today with this girl I fancy. The new girl picked up on the fact that I liked her, and proceeded to shour her mouth off. Automatically, my crush says "You dont fancy me, do you?". "Errr...no?" I replied. It was really awkward, and kinda insensitive on her part considering I've told her a few times that I do in fact, like her. Why aren't people more receptive of other peoples feelings?

The thing is, I have indeed already told her I liked her, and she shot me down...twice.

Ok, if she's shot you down twice then there's nothing there. She probably forgot to add the anymore to her question, making sure your feelings are bottled up the way they should be at this point. There's no future for you two, third time won't be the charm.

I've known a girl since Jr. High (about 8 or 9 years) and we've been hanging out alot lately. She does have a boyfriend (the last 3 times she referred to him though, it was my "bf, or ex, or whatever"), but just the fact that she wants to be around me so much makes me feel good, but it's just confusing when I get the feeling I may just be right there in the friend zone, the devil's merry-go-round. :bh: Been watching for those signs and signals that would confirm it, but just not sure. And I don't want to waste any more time.

You are in the friend's zone and you're not getting out anytime soon if ever. She's a good friend and a girl and seems to be at about the end of a relationship, you're seeing an opening that really isn't there which is why these feelings are cropping up.

[UA-Archangel]

For guys.

One way to tell if a girl is potentially interested in you, is that she'll ask you personal questions about you or your life.

If she ain't askin, odds are, she isn't interested, regardless of any other signals you think she's sending off.


I'm just trying to keep some of you from becoming stalkers.

[Nirvana]

First off, what she did was technically not cheat on you because you weren't a couple.

Secondly, your friend is an a'hole for making out and presumably more with your ex-gf, and I honestly would have hit him and washed my hands of him.

Lastly, your ex is a bit of a strumpet. Any girl that hooks up with 2 guys in one night, not the type of girl you wanna bring home. Maybe if you want to bang her again, but I'd advise you to double wrap it up, but I don't see why you would want to get in a relationship with this girl again.

Funny, I woke this morning and didn't give a **** anymore about this matter. I guess I good nights rest works out pretty good. :up:

[The Original Bamfer]

Funny, I woke this morning and didn't give a **** anymore about this matter. I guess I good nights rest works out pretty good. :up:

It's amazing (and strange) how much a good sleep can sometimes actually help.

[imdaly]

It's amazing (and strange) how much a good sleep can sometimes actually help.

depends on who it is you have a good sleep with. :p

[The Original Bamfer]

depends on who it is you have a good sleep with. :p

Bah dum tsch!

[Nirvana]

It's amazing (and strange) how much a good sleep can sometimes actually help.

This is true.

depends on who it is you have a good sleep with. :p

This is also true. :up:

[Mac_Hine]

For guys.

One way to tell if a girl is potentially interested in you, is that she'll ask you personal questions about you or your life.

If she ain't askin, odds are, she isn't interested, regardless of any other signals you think she's sending off.


I'm just trying to keep some of you from becoming stalkers.
But even that can be somewhat faked. Pupil dilation, now that can't be faked. That's a good indicator if she's interested or not.

[UA-Archangel]

But even that can be somewhat faked. Pupil dilation, now that can't be faked. That's a good indicator if she's interested or not.

That would give you a good reason to look into her eyes.

[Cunning Stunts]

Really, the best way to tell if a girl is interested is if she touches you a lot.

When it comes to asking person questions, many times, the girl will just be playing nice. I've known girls who couldn't stand guys who still talk to guys about "personal stuff." Doesn't mean she wants him. Hell, it doesn't even mean she likes the guy.

If she's touching you a lot, it's likely one of two situations:

1.- She's a very touchy person anyway- which, at least from what I've seen, those women tend to be more open to dating most guys anyway, so you'll probably be in luck regardless.

2.- She likes you. ESPECIALLY if you've observed her with other people, and she's not very touchy with them.

Also, there's the off chance that the girl just wants attention. I've known a girl who has dated this guy for years, but she's always got at least one boy-toy (that almost definitely likes her at the time), whom she will be all over whenever her boyfriend isn't around.

On second thought, that's not really an off-chance. Many women, especially in the teenage years, are striving for attention.

Just be careful. If you're interested in the girl, give her the benefit of the doubt and assume she's not a ****, and follow my first two situations.

[Ash J. Williams]

A form of body language no doubt.

[Mac_Hine]

Yeah there is actually a lot of body language signals that women give off (probably unconsciously) to let guys know they are interested. For example, pupil dilation, primping themselves when talking to you, a lot of hair tossing, scratching of face and hands (we do this one too I believe) and so on and so forth. There are a ton more. Look for them next time you talk to a girl. These are the ones (non-verbal) that I usually look for.

[UA-Archangel]

Yeah there is actually a lot of body language signals that women give off (probably unconsciously) to let guys know they are interested. For example, pupil dilation, primping themselves when talking to you, a lot of hair tossing, scratching of face and hands (we do this one too I believe) and so on and so forth. There are a ton more. Look for them next time you talk to a girl. These are the ones (non-verbal) that I usually look for.

Us guys like to pump out our chests when we want to impress.

Which only works if you don't need a man-bra.

[UA-Archangel]

But even that can be somewhat faked. Pupil dilation, now that can't be faked. That's a good indicator if she's interested or not.

Maybe, but if she isn't even asking personal questions and you're still following her around, you're gonna get charged.

[Mac_Hine]

Us guys like to pump out our chests when we want to impress.

Which only works if you don't need a man-bra.
Actually, lifting your chest up is a good technique to have great posture. Lifting your chest up (not over doing it of course) corrects the hunching over a lot of guys do by naturally moving one's shoulders back and straightening one's back. It's a good tip to do and women find it attractive when a guy has great posture.

[Aldar]

I have a bit of a dilemma. Basically, I dated this girl around one or two months before school began without meeting her, and it sounds weird, I know, but I only saw her through some pics she sent me, and I started talking to her from a friend who encouraged me to do so. I broke up with her and cussed her out like a douche, there was a lot going on, so don't shun me, I had a ton going on earlier this year. Anyway, she started calling me back a few months ago, and I eventually asked her out again. She's kind of started acting a little weird. It's like...I'll call, and maybe she'll answer, but says she'll call back and doesn't, but she says her mom takes her phone at times so she can't use it at night, or that a parent may be using it. She's supposed to come over on Saturday/today. I figured it'd make no sense to ask her if she wanted a relationship, and then never make an attempt to see her face to face. I was just thinking if you guys may think she could be talking to other guys, or if I seem very paranoid.

Thanks for any advice.

[knowsbleed]

She may very well be talking to other guys, you, in your own words, "cussed her out like a douche". She has put on some emotional armor since you "douched" her and now she might be hesitant to start any sort of "relationship" with you. The only thing you can really do is apologize for your douchiness and ask tell her that you're trying to be honest with her and that you'd appreciate it in return. Tell her you aren't the type to play games, if you aren't... but if you are, then play that game and play it well.

[Aldar]

I really don't like to play games, so if she doesn't come by, then I'll send a message, but I'd really like for her to come by. If she doesn't, won't that be a really bad sign?

[knowsbleed]

If she doesn't then it could be a number of different reasons; family held her up, she wasn't allowed to, she forgot, she's sleeping, or she just changed her mind because like I said before... she might be hesitant to see you because of what happened before. If its that, then it can be worked out... you'll just have to put some time and effort into building her trust for you. It might not be easy, might be easy... it all depends on her in the end... and your future actions.

But if she doesn't come by tonight, don't write the situation off as hopeless. Just brush your shoulders off, (calmly) write her an email asking her what happened... but be tactful... and be patient.

[Aldar]

Thanks, man, that is the best advice anyone has given me. Most people answer the question, but what they say doesn't really help.

Anyway, she might not be talking to other guys. The week we first started dating again, she had left a comment on a guy's page, nothing too bad or anything, but it was still bad. It was a name that she used to call me while we were dating and only when we were dating, and she had said it to this other guy, but when I asked her about it, she said she was for real about the relationship, and deleted the comment. She could be serious, she almost always asks my opinion on something, and jokes around with me a lot.

Sometimes, I guess when you have a bad experience, you tend to focus on the negatives and rarely the positives...

[knowsbleed]

Of course you focus on the negatives, its up to you to make her realize the positives about pursuing any future relationship with you. If you are there for her and actually listen to what she has to tell you, and actually DO something about it, then she might respond to you. You need to be proactive in trying to win her over though... because if she's talking to other guys, they are doing the exact same thing, but they have one up on you in the fact that they didn't douche her over before.

But seriously, do your damnedest to try and meet this girl in person... seeing someone in person means a world of difference when it comes to making an emotional connection.

[Aldar]

I am, if she doesn't come today, I'm going to encourage her to come by on Sunday for sure. It'd be essential for the relationship for her to attempt to come by at least once every week, right? My mom won't let us go to my room, so there's not a lot of privacy to talk, unless I stay outside. Hope it's not cold...

[Knightsaber Priss]

I've come to the realization that love is such a silly thing that makes ordinarily intelligent people turn into fluff brained twits. I am just so confused and confuddled about what is the truth and what is a lie that I'm just going to throw my hands up in the air. Whomever has the crush on me can reveal themselves whenever they want but I need to focus on what I know to be the truths of my existence at this point in time. Those are in no specific order:

1. When I need to work my alarm will always go off at 9:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time exactly.

2. If I don't get my butt out of bed 5 minutes afterwards I won't have enough time for a shower.

3. I need to be out the door no later than 10:17 P.M. Eastern Standard time or I will miss the bus.

4. Graveyard Shift is really, really boring.

At this point in time these are the only things I'll be focusing on. No more getting myself worked up about any romantic things until I get tangible proofs, not wild theories.

[amazingfantasy15]

I've come to the realization that love is such a silly thing that makes ordinarily intelligent people turn into fluff brained twits. I am just so confused and confuddled about what is the truth and what is a lie that I'm just going to throw my hands up in the air. Whomever has the crush on me can reveal themselves whenever they want but I need to focus on what I know to be the truths of my existence at this point in time. Those are in no specific order:

1. When I need to work my alarm will always go off at 9:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time exactly.

2. If I don't get my butt out of bed 5 minutes afterwards I won't have enough time for a shower.

3. I need to be out the door no later than 10:17 P.M. Eastern Standard time or I will miss the bus.

4. Graveyard Shift is really, really boring.

At this point in time these are the only things I'll be focusing on. No more getting myself worked up about any romantic things until I get tangible proofs, not wild theories.

I know you won't listen, but maybe it's time to take some initiative and ask this guy out because you won't and can't get over it doing what you're doing. If you could get over it you wouldn't be posting on this thread.

[UA-Archangel]

Thanks, man, that is the best advice anyone has given me. Most people answer the question, but what they say doesn't really help.

Anyway, she might not be talking to other guys. The week we first started dating again, she had left a comment on a guy's page, nothing too bad or anything, but it was still bad. It was a name that she used to call me while we were dating and only when we were dating, and she had said it to this other guy, but when I asked her about it, she said she was for real about the relationship, and deleted the comment. She could be serious, she almost always asks my opinion on something, and jokes around with me a lot.

Sometimes, I guess when you have a bad experience, you tend to focus on the negatives and rarely the positives...

Although you won't be around to read this, at least for the next couple of years anyway, I'd like to respond to your post for general purposes.

Basically, dating is to help weed out what you find to be bad matches so you can discover the qualities the qualities you like and can find a person with those qualities.

[Knightsaber Priss]

I know you won't listen, but maybe it's time to take some initiative and ask this guy out because you won't and can't get over it doing what you're doing. If you could get over it you wouldn't be posting on this thread.

Trust me, I want to do exactly that, I really do, but given the circumstances it's next to impossible. Appearances by him are akin to encounters with Bigfoot. In fact I think I might just encounter Bigfoot a lot more than I'd encounter him. Maybe I should be asking a Bigfoot creature out on a date on Friday since my strictly friendship wise dinner date bailed out on me. :csad: Again, I don't have his phone number nor do I know where he lives, nor could I go there even if I did. But like I said, I can't get myself worked up about things that aren't tangible right now. I just have to focus on what I have to do to survive within my own means.

*Edit* I just had a few thoughts occur to me a little bit ago but I've discovered something that just drives me wild or maybe at the moment I just feel very turned on for some odd reason. There's just something about the primal, animal magnetism of a man who's being challenged by a love rival that excites me. Maybe it's just that basic masculine instinct of marking its territory so to speak that just brings out a good aggression in a man.

[Erzengel]

Men and women both have particular things they need out of a relationship, and if they don't get them the relationship is very unlikely to succeed. Your partner probably broke up with you because one or more of these needs weren't being met, and if you can identify them and how to address them it'll be far easier to get your ex back and what's more...keep the relationship going. The Magic of Making Up (http://www.magicofmakingup.com) is just one of a great many books out there designed to help you get your ex back, but unlike the majority of them its methods and ideas work for virtually all relationships
What a vague and generalized solution. Thanks Dr. Phil.

[November Rain]

Trust me, I want to do exactly that, I really do, but given the circumstances it's next to impossible. Appearances by him are akin to encounters with Bigfoot. In fact I think I might just encounter Bigfoot a lot more than I'd encounter him. Maybe I should be asking a Bigfoot creature out on a date on Friday since my strictly friendship wise dinner date bailed out on me. :csad: Again, I don't have his phone number nor do I know where he lives, nor could I go there even if I did. But like I said, I can't get myself worked up about things that aren't tangible right now. I just have to focus on what I have to do to survive within my own means.

*Edit* I just had a few thoughts occur to me a little bit ago but I've discovered something that just drives me wild or maybe at the moment I just feel very turned on for some odd reason. There's just something about the primal, animal magnetism of a man who's being challenged by a love rival that excites me. Maybe it's just that basic masculine instinct of marking its territory so to speak that just brings out a good aggression in a man.
Sounds like you're more into the drama of the chase than the individual.

be careful what you wish for, your reward at the end of this ordeal may not be as appetising as you originally forsaw. By that time, you'll realise how much time you've wated and settle in resentment.

or you might never get it and spoil other relationships forever looking over your shoulder.

[November Rain]

What a vague and generalized solution. Thanks Dr. Phil.
To be fair, any advice is really some generalisation based on our own experiences.

A book is just as likely to provide insight as anyone on this thread is, although one may see our advice as more genuine because there is no finacial gain from it, it doesn't make it any more valid.

most advice in this thread are quick fix scenarios, most books cover the rebuilding from ground zero approach. It's what ever works for the individual.

most of the time, people don;t actually want advice but just want confirmation what they are doing is right. It's all self-indulging.

[Erzengel]

To be fair, any advice is really some generalisation based on our own experiences.

A book is just as likely to provide insight as anyone on this thread is, although one may see our advice as more genuine because there is no finacial gain from it, it doesn't make it any more valid.

most advice in this thread are quick fix scenarios, most books cover the rebuilding from ground zero approach. It's what ever works for the individual.

most of the time, people don;t actually want advice but just want confirmation what they are doing is right. It's all self-indulging.
I know that but this particular person is probably a bot,trying to hawk something on here. And don't get on me with robots can learn to love angle.

[amazingfantasy15]

I know that but this particular person is probably a bot,trying to hawk something on here. And don't get on me with robots can learn to love angle.

Yeah, that post reeked of just an advertisement, it had nothing to do with any of the recent "situations" in the thread.

[SLVRSR4]

Men and women both have particular things they need out of a relationship, and if they don't get them the relationship is very unlikely to succeed. Your partner probably broke up with you because one or more of these needs weren't being met, and if you can identify them and how to address them it'll be far easier to get your ex back and what's more...keep the relationship going. The Magic of Making Up (http://www.magicofmakingup.com) is just one of a great many books out there designed to help you get your ex back, but unlike the majority of them its methods and ideas work for virtually all relationships

I bought this and it totally changed my life. I just might be able to get back with Mariah Carey. Sure I haven't met her yet, but the long chats we had over the internet were enough to sate my desires til I meet her in person after she cheated on me with Nick Cannon. I'm wiling to overlook this because "love is magic and that's what life is made of." Actual quote from the book

:whatever:

[ttotheusher]

I've come to the conclusion that emotions suck and that we should all live in an Equilibrium type world. Just thought you ought to know.

[batboy99]

Ok here it goes.

Theres this girl I like. Shes one of my friends. She knows I like her, I told her. My friends say they think she likes me(shes doing the whole hard to get crap). Lately, shes been ditching me and my friends to hang out with some douche bag dumbass guy. Shes done this a few times in the past 2 months. Anyways, on Friday, she did it again, but this time ,she came later on and brought him. He's one of those guys that try too hard to be funny(he was trying to pull off a scottish accent). Everyone told him to stop, but he just wouldnt, very annoying. So OBVIOUSLY I was pissed. One, him being extreamly annoying and two, her bringing another guy to sit with us. So yes, i was pissed. I told my friend, ''do you wanna go?'' So we left. And she KNEW I was pissed, and this also isnt the first time shes hung out with him and i got pissed.

Anyways, so today, she messaged me on MSN.
This was the convo

Her:Hey Matty
Me:Hi
Her:Whats up?
Me:Nothing
Her:Are you ok?
Me:Yes
Her:... Whatever, ill talk to you tomorrow
Me: ok....


Then I went back into the conversation...
Me:Why did you ask if im ok? How would you know if I was mad or something over MSN?(i meant this in a nice wa,y not an ******* way mind you)
her:You're acting pissy, like before.

And thats it. WTF? Obviously im pissy. Open your eyes goddamit! Then you'll see why im ''pissy'.

So now, i gotta look forward to seeing her tomorrow. Ugh.

What should I do?

[Master Chief]

This sophomore thinks she fell in love with me. How f**ked up. :huh:
I feel like not a gentlieman but c'mon, we hadn't even said more than 10 words to each other.
What's the dealio with the whole George Costanza complex. "When I like them they don't like me, and when they like me I don't like them."

[The Apatow Crew]

This sophomore thinks she fell in love with me. How f**ked up. :huh:
I feel like not a gentlieman but c'mon, we hadn't even said more than 10 words to each other.
What's the dealio with the whole George Costanza complex. "When I like them they don't like me, and when they like me I don't like them."Hit it and quit it bro. hit it and quit it.:yay:

[AndThePickles]

Ok here it goes.

Theres this girl I like. Shes one of my friends. She knows I like her, I told her. My friends say they think she likes me(shes doing the whole hard to get crap). Lately, shes been ditching me and my friends to hang out with some douche bag dumbass guy. Shes done this a few times in the past 2 months. Anyways, on Friday, she did it again, but this time ,she came later on and brought him. He's one of those guys that try too hard to be funny(he was trying to pull off a scottish accent). Everyone told him to stop, but he just wouldnt, very annoying. So OBVIOUSLY I was pissed. One, him being extreamly annoying and two, her bringing another guy to sit with us. So yes, i was pissed. I told my friend, ''do you wanna go?'' So we left. And she KNEW I was pissed, and this also isnt the first time shes hung out with him and i got pissed.

Anyways, so today, she messaged me on MSN.
This was the convo

Her:Hey Matty
Me:Hi
Her:Whats up?
Me:Nothing
Her:Are you ok?
Me:Yes
Her:... Whatever, ill talk to you tomorrow
Me: ok....


Then I went back into the conversation...
Me:Why did you ask if im ok? How would you know if I was mad or something over MSN?(i meant this in a nice wa,y not an ******* way mind you)
her:You're acting pissy, like before.

And thats it. WTF? Obviously im pissy. Open your eyes goddamit! Then you'll see why im ''pissy'.

So now, i gotta look forward to seeing her tomorrow. Ugh.

What should I do?

Find someone new to ask out who doesn't play childish games.

[batboy99]

I wish it were that easy... lets face it, im not the cutest kid of the bunch. Im pretty much the nobody in my school, asking someone else is never gonna happen. Plus shes theo nly girl ive ever really liked. We both have alot in common, out sense of humour, our likes and dislikes. Sounds cheesey but I think we would be perfect together, shes just choosing to act like a ***** right now.

[AndThePickles]

I wish it were that easy... lets face it, im not the cutest kid of the bunch. Im pretty much the nobody in my school, asking someone else is never gonna happen. Plus shes theo nly girl ive ever really liked. We both have alot in common, out sense of humour, our likes and dislikes. Sounds cheesey but I think we would be perfect together, shes just choosing to act like a ***** right now.

Hun, there are many things wrong with this post, and all of them point to exactly why you aren't dating anyone right now.

1. You need to build up some CONFIDENCE. You're never going to get a date with that self-loathing attitude. When you look down on yourself, other people can tell. It's not attractive, and not healthy for you, either.

2. Never gonna happen? How old are you?! You're in high school, right? lol you're SO young...plenty of time and asking someone else out will easily happen if you make it happen.

3. If she's the only girl you've ever really liked, that just means she will be the first of many.

4. Fantasizing about how you think you'd be perfect with this girl does NOT mean that you actually would be. It sounds like she isn't right for you at all, honestly. No one who plays games like that is worth dating. You shouldn't have to settle or wait for her to stop being idiotic.

[Noon]

I wish it were that easy... lets face it, im not the cutest kid of the bunch. Im pretty much the nobody in my school, asking someone else is never gonna happen. Plus shes theo nly girl ive ever really liked. We both have alot in common, out sense of humour, our likes and dislikes. Sounds cheesey but I think we would be perfect together, shes just choosing to act like a ***** right now.

To be honest you are the one playing games right now. You are upset with her but you won't outright say why. Although to you it may seem obvious why, you'd be amazed how bad people are at seeing things from other peoples point of view.

I would say be honest. Tell her you really like her, and not just that, but you want to date her, tell her this > We both have alot in common, out sense of humour, our likes and dislikes. Sounds cheesey but I think we would be perfect together.

Don't expect her to know what you are thinking or how you are feeling. (bad)Comunication is one of the main reasons people have relationship problems. It goes for men and women: everyone expects the other party to know what's going on in their head, and 90% of the time they don't. I know I have done this. Don't be a dick, but be truthful. That way you have put all your cards on the table, and really that is all you can do.

[batboy99]

1. Im perfectly fine with who I am. But me and my friends are the ''nobodys''(well not really, but we arnet popular or anytihng). But i wouldnt change a thing, i love my friends and i could care less about being morel iked by other people. Im not the cutest kid either, but oh well. I can definetly say i tihkn im better looknig than that other guy.
2. By that I mean that i wouldnt want to ask anyone else out. Most of the girls in my school are extreamly ****ty, definetly not who i want to be with.

3. well theres was one other girl, but thats another story.

4. My friends say shes just trying to make me jealous. Is it true? I dont know, it might be. I mean, no guy and girl friend hang out alone as much as we do, she must have some kind of feelings. Im gonna be more confident tomorrow and im gonna tell her straight up whats up with the picture.

[AndThePickles]

To be honest you are the one playing games right now. You are upset with her but you won't outright say why. Although to you it may seem obvious why, you'd be amazed how bad people are at seeing things from other peoples point of view.

I would say be honest. Tell her you really like her, and not just that, but you want to date her, tell her this > We both have alot in common, out sense of humour, our likes and dislikes. Sounds cheesey but I think we would be perfect together.

Don't expect her to know what you are thinking or how you are feeling. (bad)Comunication is one of the main reasons people have relationship problems. It goes for men and women: everyone expects the other party to know what's going on in their head, and 90% they don't. I know I have done this. Don't be a dick, but be truthful. That way you have put all your cards on the table, and really that is all you can do.

I agree with this as well...wasn't even thinking about it that way :up: VERY helpful advice.

[batboy99]

To be honest you are the one playing games right now. You are upset with her but you won't outright say why. Although to you it may seem obvious why, you'd be amazed how bad people are at seeing things from other peoples point of view.

I would say be honest. Tell her you really like her, and not just that, but you want to date her, tell her this > We both have alot in common, out sense of humour, our likes and dislikes. Sounds cheesey but I think we would be perfect together.

Don't expect her to know what you are thinking or how you are feeling. (bad)Comunication is one of the main reasons people have relationship problems. It goes for men and women: everyone expects the other party to know what's going on in their head, and 90% they don't. I know I have done this. Don't be a dick, but be truthful. That way you have put all your cards on the table, and really that is all you can do.I see. I agree too. I do need to be a little more confident and truthful. And I will tell her the bolded part. Though i did already tell her that i liked her and it became rather awkward for a few minutes :p



Thanks you two. You guys are awesome. :) Now i know who to come and talk to :p:hugs:

[Master Chief]

Hit it and quit it bro. hit it and quit it.:yay:

I wish I could, but I've been corrupted by Catholic values and romantic literature.

...Which ironically makes me a pussy in today's world. :o

[The Apatow Crew]

I wish I could, but I've been corrupted by Catholic values and romantic literature.

...Which ironically makes me a pussy in today's world. :oDon't worry i prolly couldn't do that either. Cause of those things called feelings.

So that both makes us pussys then.

[Master Chief]

It's all good yo, I just think it's crazy because I think the qualities those girls love me for are what make the girls I fancy run for the hills, LOL. :up:

Ridiculousness to the max, f**k high school.

Word of advice, never show you care too much. Pick your moments. Lesson learned the hard way on my end, LOL. :bh:

[The Apatow Crew]

It's all good yo, I just think it's crazy because I think the qualities those girls love me for are what make the girls I fancy run for the hills, LOL. :up:

Ridiculousness to the max, f**k high school.

Word of advice, never show you care too much. Pick your moments. Lesson learned the hard way on my end, LOL. :bh:Yeah, i'm pretty much new to the whole relationship thing. Been in one for almost a month. I'm still surprised a girl. would actually go out with me.

But i kinda learned alot of info from everyone on here on what to do and whatnot.

[Erzengel]

Yeah, i'm pretty much new to the whole relationship thing. Been in one for almost a month. I'm still surprised a guy would actually go out with me.

But i kinda learned alot of info from everyone on here on what to do and whatnot.

:wow:

[imdaly]

Yeah, i'm pretty much new to the whole relationship thing. Been in one for almost a month. I'm still surprised a guy would actually go out with me.

But i kinda learned alot of info from everyone on here on what to do and whatnot.


...are you...


...a girl?!?! :wow:

[Erzengel]

Hun, there are many things wrong with this post, and all of them point to exactly why you aren't dating anyone right now.

1. You need to build up some CONFIDENCE. You're never going to get a date with that self-loathing attitude. When you look down on yourself, other people can tell. It's not attractive, and not healthy for you, either.

2. Never gonna happen? How old are you?! You're in high school, right? lol you're SO young...plenty of time and asking someone else out will easily happen if you make it happen.

3. If she's the only girl you've ever really liked, that just means she will be the first of many.

4. Fantasizing about how you think you'd be perfect with this girl does NOT mean that you actually would be. It sounds like she isn't right for you at all, honestly. No one who plays games like that is worth dating. You shouldn't have to settle or wait for her to stop being idiotic.
ATP says it best.

Confidence, confidence, confidence.

Girls don't like indecisive guys, who stare at the floor and have a self defeating attitude. :down

[The Apatow Crew]

Damn it! Noooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!


I screwed up! I meant to say Girl. I like Girls!