*Official* Relationship Advice Thread

[BlackLantern]

helpful hint: never make your distaste for dating a women with kids public in the middle of a crowded bar where other people can hear you

[uchiha_itachi]

girl 1 is the girl i liked and who i asked out. Friend 1 is one of my good friends and shes also best friends with girl 1. friend 1 also helped me out with the whole thing and was going to talk to girl 1.

ill use different a alias for them both if that makes it better...ill just edit the original post.

[Erzengel]

It can be a whole bevy of reasons:

The girl you liked (who I will name Francine from now on) might actually think you are trying to hook up with the girl you are best friends with (who I will name Juanita).

Now Francine may actually be jealous of Juanita and maybe even though Francine isn't into you, she doesn't like the fact that maybe you are showing Juanita attention.

ATP is right it does sound like middle school s'. If Francine is making such a big tadoo about you being there, ask her what's the issue and if she presses it, don't go and tell Juanita why.

[uchiha_itachi]

maybe but. when i said to francine " im not gonna try anything with Juanita" francine was said "that was the last thing on my mind"

i dont know....people should know that Francine is like my sister, weve both said it to eachother. i just dont understand anything lol

this thing is also at my house. once i went out for a meal with them both and we came up with the whole thing. then this whole me liking francine thing happend and i asked francine later down the line about still comming to do it, and she didnt seem sure. ( understandable) so that would just leave me an juanita and tbh anyone else who wanted to come to mine to watch them.

I dont know why should would be jealous though?

Aprently they are both supposed to be comming to my work tommorrow to see a band play so hopfully ill see them then and see how it is.

[Eggyman]

maybe but. when i said to francine " im not gonna try anything with Juanita" francine was said "that was the last thing on my mind"

i dont know....people should know that Francine is like my sister, weve both said it to eachother. i just dont understand anything lol

this thing is also at my house. once i went out for a meal with them both and we came up with the whole thing. then this whole me liking francine thing happend and i asked francine later down the line about still comming to do it, and she didnt seem sure. ( understandable) so that would just leave me an juanita and tbh anyone else who wanted to come to mine to watch them.

I dont know why should would be jealous though?

Aprently they are both supposed to be comming to my work tommorrow to see a band play so hopfully ill see them then and see how it is.

Tell her you'll skip the prequels and see if that helps.

[Erzengel]

Invite them both. If they don't come, or only one comes, fine. Don't read more into it, and don't let it get to you.

[uchiha_itachi]

LOL thanks eggyman, but she wants to watch them all. where fully prepared to sit there for 12hours watching them.

i would prefare both of them to come anyway.

i just want it to be NORMAL again. none of this stupid ********.

[amazingfantasy15]

LOL thanks eggyman, but she wants to watch them all. where fully prepared to sit there for 12hours watching them.

i would prefare both of them to come anyway.

i just want it to be NORMAL again. none of this stupid ********.

First, why do you need to make up the rules of a drinking game and post them on facebook beforehand? Back when I was still playing drinking games we made it up as we went.

Second, how did you get from drunk people are annoying to this girl you like thinking you're trying to sleep with your mutual friend?

You're blowing thing out of proportion because you still like this girl. Things aren't going to be normal as long as you still like this girl. My suggestion find some other girl to put on the pedastal and maybe then things will start to get back the way they were.

[uchiha_itachi]

it was an idea for a drinking game to play.

she said drunk people are annoying and " stop trying to get my friend drunk" was another comment.

[Erzengel]

Regardless, I think you are spending too much time sweating over it.

[amazingfantasy15]

it was an idea for a drinking game to play.

she said drunk people are annoying and " stop trying to get my friend drunk" was another comment.

Drunk people are annoyed when you're sober. Maybe the girl usually needs to take care of your friend when she's drunk and doesn't want to in this case. Everything in this situation is screwed up though by the fact that you like the girl and now that you've told her, you're overthinking things and blowing things out of proportion.

[Anubis]

Don't you got any dude friends? Get one of them to come over and be your wing man or whatever.

[uchiha_itachi]

Well i saw her 2day, we where as we normally are i even made her smile about the whole argument thing. im just gonna do whatever and if it happens it happens.

Anubis: there was only gonna be one there, and im not trying to sleep with her as shes like my sister. thats why i was confused as to why the girl i do like was acting the way she was. but as i said, its all good so im just gonna take it as it comes.

[Mr. Credible]

So, I've started seeing a girl lately, and we spent the night together a few nights in a row now. She's an awesome chick, and nuts in bed, but...

How do you ask a girl tactfully to... Clean better.

The last girl I was seeing was a neat freak, and maybe I just got spoiled, but this girl now is kind of a hippy chick, and I just recently got her to shave.

Any input would be awesome. She's kind of insecure as it is, and I'm sure if I could find a good way to bring it up that didn't sound like "your vagina smells" she'd do it to male me happy. This is kind of a deal breaker for me, and I don't want to quit seeing her, so...

[terry78]

Only on the 4th of July does this thread actually get weirder than usual.

[Dark Phantom]

So, I've started seeing a girl lately, and we spent the night together a few nights in a row now. She's an awesome chick, and nuts in bed, but...

How do you ask a girl tactfully to... Clean better.

The last girl I was seeing was a neat freak, and maybe I just got spoiled, but this girl now is kind of a hippy chick, and I just recently got her to shave.

Any input would be awesome. She's kind of insecure as it is, and I'm sure if I could find a good way to bring it up that didn't sound like "your vagina smells" she'd do it to male me happy. This is kind of a deal breaker for me, and I don't want to quit seeing her, so...

There really is no nicer way of saying "Can you make your vagina smell better for me?" other than...well that.

So here's 1 of 2 options. You either tell her straight up and have her slap you then cry herself to sleep. OR! you can live the rest of your life dealing with a very dirty vagay-jay...yeah...you can't go wrong with either option :whatever:

[katie_girl09]

So, I've started seeing a girl lately, and we spent the night together a few nights in a row now. She's an awesome chick, and nuts in bed, but...

How do you ask a girl tactfully to... Clean better.

The last girl I was seeing was a neat freak, and maybe I just got spoiled, but this girl now is kind of a hippy chick, and I just recently got her to shave.

Any input would be awesome. She's kind of insecure as it is, and I'm sure if I could find a good way to bring it up that didn't sound like "your vagina smells" she'd do it to male me happy. This is kind of a deal breaker for me, and I don't want to quit seeing her, so...
Ugh! Dude! I can't believe that you slept with her like that!
All the same, I don't really think there is a better way to tell her than straight up. How else do you tell a person about something like that? Or maybe you can suggest that you both take a shower together or something? Iunno.

[Anita18]

So, I've started seeing a girl lately, and we spent the night together a few nights in a row now. She's an awesome chick, and nuts in bed, but...

How do you ask a girl tactfully to... Clean better.

The last girl I was seeing was a neat freak, and maybe I just got spoiled, but this girl now is kind of a hippy chick, and I just recently got her to shave.

Any input would be awesome. She's kind of insecure as it is, and I'm sure if I could find a good way to bring it up that didn't sound like "your vagina smells" she'd do it to male me happy. This is kind of a deal breaker for me, and I don't want to quit seeing her, so...
Er, you don't typically clean vaginas, they clean themselves. In fact you can do harm by douching because it messes up the pH.

Does it smell because she's hairy down there? Maybe you could suggest you trim yourselves together. Make it a kinky experiment instead of a hygiene issue. :funny:

Sometimes when you wear underwear that doesn't breathe it can get kinda funky as well. That's not particularly healthy either so maybe you could bring it up as a concern about her.

[Cunning Stunts]

Or you could try:

"Hey. Clean your puss."

[katie_girl09]

Hahaha! Oh yeah, that's a winning line. lol

[The Original Bamfer]

Oh, you kids.

[Eggyman]

Breath mints!

[enterthemadness]

Ok, I was gonna ask out this one hot looking girl but I asked my tattoo artist if she was available and got 'no.'

BUT...I'm mainly here cause I had a weird, but cool dream.

It was me and a black girl in bed...my bed...and we kissed...and not much after that. It was weird. She had work to do. Now the girl...I actually know in real life. But...the last time I saw this girl in person, I was a senior in high school and a few years older than her.(Think she was 16?) This is the same girl that was flirting with me one day in class. Blowing kisses at me, doing things with her tongue towards me, etc. If I remember correctly I saw her myspace last year and she has a kid. What does this all mean? If I was a couple years younger, I would have asked her out. Maybe my mind is telling me that?

I should note that in my dream I was probably in mid 20's and she was early 20's now.

[katie_girl09]

Ok, I was gonna ask out this one hot looking girl but I asked my tattoo artist if she was available and got 'no.'

BUT...I'm mainly here cause I had a weird, but cool dream.

It was me and a black girl in bed...my bed...and we kissed...and not much after that. It was weird. She had work to do. Now the girl...I actually know in real life. But...the last time I saw this girl in person, I was a senior in high school and a few years older than her.(Think she was 16?) This is the same girl that was flirting with me one day in class. Blowing kisses at me, doing things with her tongue towards me, etc. If I remember correctly I saw her myspace last year and she has a kid. What does this all mean? If I was a couple years younger, I would have asked her out. Maybe my mind is telling me that?

I should note that in my dream I was probably in mid 20's and she was early 20's now.
Sounds like just a dream to me. I don't think you should look at it as more until something actually happens, ya know?
And, no offense, but did she know you or talk to you previously in school? Because if not, the tongue and kisses thing sounds slightly trashy to me. Again, no offense.

[enterthemadness]

Sounds like just a dream to me. I don't think you should look at it as more until something actually happens, ya know?
And, no offense, but did she know you or talk to you previously in school? Because if not, the tongue and kisses thing sounds slightly trashy to me. Again, no offense.

I helped her with some math work a few times in that class. About it. And when she was flirting with me it was when I was helping her with math, and her desk was right in front of me. But since I took Algebra 1A four times, I am confused at what class. May have actually been 17 at the time really. I don't know. Not only that, I was in that room two times...maybe three times. Twice for Algebra 1A (but two different teachers), then I think....i dunno.

[AndThePickles]

So, I've started seeing a girl lately, and we spent the night together a few nights in a row now. She's an awesome chick, and nuts in bed, but...

How do you ask a girl tactfully to... Clean better.

The last girl I was seeing was a neat freak, and maybe I just got spoiled, but this girl now is kind of a hippy chick, and I just recently got her to shave.

Any input would be awesome. She's kind of insecure as it is, and I'm sure if I could find a good way to bring it up that didn't sound like "your vagina smells" she'd do it to male me happy. This is kind of a deal breaker for me, and I don't want to quit seeing her, so...

Oh dear :csad: That is a very sensitive topic, but one that you can't ignore! You could always shower with her and clean it for her :oldrazz: But, I think that unfortunately, you will have to gently tell her about it. I'd say go out and buy her some Summer's Eve products (they make things like wipes and underwear deodorant sprays for women), but I'm not sure if that would just be insulting to her.

Er, you don't typically clean vaginas, they clean themselves. In fact you can do harm by douching because it messes up the pH.

Does it smell because she's hairy down there? Maybe you could suggest you trim yourselves together. Make it a kinky experiment instead of a hygiene issue. :funny:

Sometimes when you wear underwear that doesn't breathe it can get kinda funky as well. That's not particularly healthy either so maybe you could bring it up as a concern about her.

I doubt this is a case of her needing to douche...it sounds like she just needs to be more thorough in the shower :csad: If she is hairy, she likely does need to use cleansing wipes or something during the day. Some women are more...pungent down there than others, and it sounds like she just isn't keeping clean enough.

[Erzengel]

Also the fact with a lot of hair down there, is with some women it does stand a chance that sweat, oil, etc. build up and there is going to be more of an odor with a woman who has more down there than others.

[Mr. Credible]

Well, we've already gotten past the shaving issue, but I haven't been with her since, so I don't know what, if any difference it's made.

If it doesn't, I think I'll just try to make it sound like my fault... Do the whole "I really want to go down on you more, but I've never liked the taste... Maybe if we try... Etc, etc..." at least that way I can spare her feelings.

[Anita18]

Well, we've already gotten past the shaving issue, but I haven't been with her since, so I don't know what, if any difference it's made.

If it doesn't, I think I'll just try to make it sound like my fault... Do the whole "I really want to go down on you more, but I've never liked the taste... Maybe if we try... Etc, etc..." at least that way I can spare her feelings.
Sounds reasonable. :up:

[AndThePickles]

I'd be careful with how much you skirt around the issue...if I was this girl and heard a line like "I've never liked the taste," I'd know something was up lol.

[terry78]

I'd be careful with how much you skirt around the issue...if I was this girl and heard a line like "I've never liked the taste," I'd know something was up lol.

And it wouldn't be him.

[BlackLantern]

I got into a fight with a friend of mine this weekend....She has a single friend (who has a kid) and she asked if Id be interested in getting to know her...I said "no thanks, I dont date women with kids" and it turned into a whole thing about me being selfish and bla bla bla

[CrypticOne]

So, I've started seeing a girl lately, and we spent the night together a few nights in a row now. She's an awesome chick, and nuts in bed, but...

How do you ask a girl tactfully to... Clean better.

The last girl I was seeing was a neat freak, and maybe I just got spoiled, but this girl now is kind of a hippy chick, and I just recently got her to shave.

Any input would be awesome. She's kind of insecure as it is, and I'm sure if I could find a good way to bring it up that didn't sound like "your vagina smells" she'd do it to male me happy. This is kind of a deal breaker for me, and I don't want to quit seeing her, so...

HAHA! I don't know about this man. Me and my friends debate this all the time. But they're sick and just tell the girls they're with to go clean, "wipe front to back."

If I was in the situation I would just bring it up. I mean, it's probably going to hurt her feelings regardless of what you say but you just have to say something like, "I really like you, blah, blah, blah...."

Or hell, go and watch Dane Cook's Vicious Cycle with her.

[Mr. Credible]

I'd be careful with how much you skirt around the issue...if I was this girl and heard a line like "I've never liked the taste," I'd know something was up lol.

oh, she probably will, she's a pretty bright girl, but maybe shell get that I'm trying to spare her feelings, too.

Besides, it beats the alternitive of just saying it, I think.

[katie_girl09]

I got into a fight with a friend of mine this weekend....She has a single friend (who has a kid) and she asked if Id be interested in getting to know her...I said "no thanks, I dont date women with kids" and it turned into a whole thing about me being selfish and bla bla bla
You are not selfish for not being comfortable dating a person who has kids. Not everyone wants that and its okay. I mean, I know that I wouldn't really wanna be with a guy that had kids...

[BlackLantern]

she tries to pump me up "you're so nice, you have a good job" and my thinking is that "I am a decent catch, why waste it on being "instant daddy"?? Ive had to deal with a mom who dated and regardless of how great the guy is, to the kid you are the thing keeping his parents apart

[AndThePickles]

Yeah, don't let anyone give you crap for not wanting to date someone with a kid. It isn't selfish at all...being a parent is a lot of responsibility. Dating is hard enough without worrying about kids getting attached or disliking you, or having to help support the kid, etc etc.

[uchiha_itachi]

I almost went to go out with a chick who had a kid...it didnt happen but the prospect of it didnt bother me.

[Be Snikt-Happy]

Can we ask social circle questions here? It's somewhat related because your friends are the people who are out with you when you meet girls. With a healthy social circle, you are boosted and more confident. A group of friends that aren't really your friends feels like it can be detrimental in the lnog run.

[uchiha_itachi]

go for it?

[Erzengel]

Can we ask social circle questions here? It's somewhat related because your friends are the people who are out with you when you meet girls. With a healthy social circle, you are boosted and more confident. A group of friends that aren't really your friends feels like it can be detrimental in the lnog run.

Um...do you have something more specific? :huh:

[Hound55]

Step 1. Watch what I do.
Step 2. Do the opposite.

There... we're done, close the topic up now, you couldn't get better advice than that...

:up:

[Bad Supe's Girl]

Step 1. Watch what I do.
Step 2. Do the opposite.

There... we're done, close the topic up now, you couldn't get better advice than that...

:up:

:lmao:

your relationships suck that bad?

[Hound55]

I'm 26 and already been through the family court with a crazy ex...

I should have used the fact that she'd look twice at me as evidence that she's crazy, but I already had more than enough of that...

[Bad Supe's Girl]

I'm 26 and already been through the family court with a crazy ex...

I should have used the fact that she'd look twice at me as evidence that she's crazy, but I already had more than enough of that...

awww man, you gotta stop downing yourself for your looks. Honestly, you may look a little like Macaulay Culkin... but you look nothing like the other guy you posted in that same post (Steve whatever).

You'll find a woman worthy of your time and attention sooner or later.
Until then, enjoy the single life!

[Hound55]

Hahaha I have found one.

I drive her crazy.

Only two people have been able to put up with me over the course of my life, one was nuts and I'm driving the other one nuts... heh

[amazingfantasy15]

Hahaha I have found one.

I drive her crazy.

Only two people have been able to put up with me over the course of my life, one was nuts and I'm driving the other one nuts... heh

Maybe try to stop doing some of the things that drive her crazy?

[Anubis]

Screw that, you push her as far as she can possibly go, and if she stays, then you marry her. If she goes? Then, well, it wasn't meant to be. Plus, the restraining order will mean you wont have to see her no mo.

[enterthemadness]

I'm gonna ask out a girl tomorrow. Around my age. Good chance I fail at it, but you never know.

:cwink: if I do fail, i be batting a 1000%

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah.

I'm sure she will say no, I mean, we don't really talk much at all...I just get my coffee or latte's from her in the afternoon. I talk mostly to her Mom though if she's there about business. But I think the daughter is available and she's cute, so why not?

[The Original Bamfer]

You wouldn't happen to get your coffee from Hooters, would you? :huh:

[enterthemadness]

You wouldn't happen to get your coffee from Hooters, would you? :huh:

No, a great local coffee shop that may close down next month. I came in going on 3....and the mom came in at 12:30 to take over for the second and final shift...damn, I was the third person in there in 2 1/2 hours. Been getting most of my lattes and coffee there...for maybe a year. Great tasting scones, too. Like in my mouth good :o. Pop it in and heaven.

[terry78]

As long as none of you go the L.A. Fitness route on here, do what you gotta.

[enterthemadness]

As long as none of you go the L.A. Fitness route on here, do what you gotta.

LA Fitness being in Pittsburgh makes no sense...

And no, not going that horrific route. Doesn't get you laid in the end anyway.

[The Original Bamfer]

LA Fitness being in Pittsburgh makes no sense...

Yeah, because a fitness center chain doesn't make any sense.

...:huh:

[AndThePickles]

A new one opened up right down the street from where I live.

[The Original Bamfer]

A new one opened up right down the street from where I live.

BUT YOU DON'T LIVE IN LA!?!?!?! :wow:

[enterthemadness]

Yeah, because a fitness center chain doesn't make any sense.

...:huh:

It's a chain called LA (Los Anegeles) Fitness. But in Pittsburgh.

















NAME FAIL.


I work out at a rec center btw....but have a Snap Fitness in town, 24/7. U guys hear of it?

[AndThePickles]

BUT YOU DON'T LIVE IN LA!?!?!?! :wow:
I know, it defies all possibilities in the universe!

[terry78]

There's one here in Indiana also. :o So you KNOW it's made some strides.

[enterthemadness]

Well, I asked her out while ago when I got coffee there. Did I get a date or no? :cwink: find out next week...


Ok, seriously....I got this line 'Actually, I'm seeing someone already...but if that doesn't work out I let you know when you come in. Thanks for asking :yay:.'

So, pals and ladies and other people I left out, what do u think?

:o btw, I improved my record to 0-4 now. That's a 1000%.

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah.

[Erzengel]

Well, at least you dropped a pair and asked her although, she was letting you down gently. But just keep it up and keep asking different women in your life.

[enterthemadness]

Well, at least you dropped a pair and asked her although, she was letting you down gently. But just keep it up and keep asking different women in your life.

So, no wait and ask people out that are near my age?


Genius idea.....no woner u USED to be a mod.

btw i am joking above. good idea.

[Erzengel]

Well, I think dating anyone between the ages of 19 - 23 would probably be better for you, and you should try meeting women, through work, school, activities.

And I was never a moderator here. :o

[enterthemadness]

Well, I think dating anyone between the ages of 19 - 23 would probably be better for you, and you should try meeting women, through work, school, activities.

And I was never a moderator here. :o

I don't have a job yet and not in community college til spring. I could have signed up for fall semester...but my family needs money so me and mom have put in for jobs. I put in for 1st Run Video and Little Casears. Will I get hired? I dunno, I put down 'Stupid rules and tired of job' for why I quit my last job at Wal-Mart, and that's the 100% truth. The official reason was to go to LA Film School on paper....but I felt I had one hand tied behind my back when I agreed to that reason for quitting.

And two....I don't date women at work or maybe even in school. Distracting and creates tension...always bad in the long run too.

[Erzengel]

Uh, you could have reworded that on your applications. Companies tend to frown on "stupid rules and tired of job", as poor attitude and unreliable. You should have put down, you left your job because of scholastic pursuits.

[enterthemadness]

Uh, you could have reworded that on your applications. Companies tend to frown on "stupid rules and tired of job", as poor attitude and unreliable. You should have put down, you left your job because of scholastic pursuits.

Damn, I guess I...fumbled...the ball on that one.:o get it? Football joke.

[amazingfantasy15]

I don't have a job yet and not in community college til spring. I could have signed up for fall semester...but my family needs money so me and mom have put in for jobs. I put in for 1st Run Video and Little Casears. Will I get hired? I dunno, I put down 'Stupid rules and tired of job' for why I quit my last job at Wal-Mart, and that's the 100% truth. The official reason was to go to LA Film School on paper....but I felt I had one hand tied behind my back when I agreed to that reason for quitting.

And two....I don't date women at work or maybe even in school. Distracting and creates tension...always bad in the long run too.

Well, you're not getting either job if that's what you really put on the application. Did you really think that was a good idea?

[enterthemadness]

Well, you're not getting either job if that's what you really put on the application. Did you really think that was a good idea?

At the time? Yes.....cause it was the truth. Both places weren't hiring though and I've put in for those places in the past before I worked at Wal-Mart. I'm like 0-2 or 0-3 at the video store already...and this si the second time I put in at the Pizza place.

I don't want to go back to Wal-Mart...granted they were the only place willing to hire me at all where I lived (not lying)...but I have almost zero confidence in managers there and moral throughout the store seemed to be well below 50% positive. Why work at a negative place with a high turnover rate?

[Erzengel]

There's a difference between telling the truth and shooting yourself in the foot.

[enterthemadness]

There's a difference between telling the truth and shooting yourself in the foot.


Well....I guess I'm just good at shooting myself in the foot. Kinda like how Spencer Pratt is good at being a d-bag.

[Erzengel]

Please don't use analogies like that either.

[amazingfantasy15]

At the time? Yes.....cause it was the truth. Both places weren't hiring though and I've put in for those places in the past before I worked at Wal-Mart. I'm like 0-2 or 0-3 at the video store already...and this si the second time I put in at the Pizza place.

I don't want to go back to Wal-Mart...granted they were the only place willing to hire me at all where I lived (not lying)...but I have almost zero confidence in managers there and moral throughout the store seemed to be well below 50% positive. Why work at a negative place with a high turnover rate?

You've gotta learn to speak diplomatically, reading "stupid rules" on an application says you've got a problem with authority. Plus every jobs has rules, so when you write that the person reading your application, thinks, well maybe this person will think our rules and stupid too and leave, so why even take a chance on hiring him, into the trash can your application goes. Another tip, don't apply to places that aren't hiring, kind of hard to get a job at a place that isn't looking to hire someone. Are you also only applying to those two places? Have you looked online for jobs, gone to temp agencies? If you're serious about gettig a job that should be your full time job. You seem to have little to no confidence, that's also going to hurt you in both a job search and going out with a girl.

[enterthemadness]

You've gotta learn to speak diplomatically, reading "stupid rules" on an application says you've got a problem with authority. Plus every jobs has rules, so when you write that the person reading your application, thinks, well maybe this person will think our rules and stupid too and leave, so why even take a chance on hiring him, into the trash can your application goes. Another tip, don't apply to places that aren't hiring, kind of hard to get a job at a place that isn't looking to hire someone. Are you also only applying to those two places? Have you looked online for jobs, gone to temp agencies? If you're serious about gettig a job that should be your full time job. You seem to have little to no confidence, that's also going to hurt you in both a job search and going out with a girl.

Erz, that is who i am. i stop using analogies like that when i die. K.

yeah, my confidence is shot. Always been my life. Been with tesi before...sucked. I go back to it though...i could do construction, well, cleaning up the site like i did that one day. very hard and sucked though. i can be a hard worker than a smart worker.

[Anita18]

At the time? Yes.....cause it was the truth. Both places weren't hiring though and I've put in for those places in the past before I worked at Wal-Mart. I'm like 0-2 or 0-3 at the video store already...and this si the second time I put in at the Pizza place.
Yeah but even it's the truth, you've got to be diplomatic. Sorry, but that's how the real world works. If you're dead set on being truthful like that all the time, retail is NOT for you. Which is fine (even I have a hard time BSing my way around, and I try very hard to be diplomatic :funny: ), but sometimes in hard times like these, you've got to swallow your pride and do what you have to.

[enterthemadness]

Yeah but even it's the truth, you've got to be diplomatic. Sorry, but that's how the real world works. If you're dead set on being truthful like that all the time, retail is NOT for you. Which is fine (even I have a hard time BSing my way around, and I try very hard to be diplomatic :funny: ), but sometimes in hard times like these, you've got to swallow your pride and do what you have to.

Yeah, I now know.

Worst Case Scenario...I go back to Walmart where I used to work, but apply for Lawn and Garden...and to make sure I get hired...Stockman(Cart Pusher).

Walmart Manager: Looks like he wants a job again, and he put down Lawn and Garden and Stockman.

WalMart Manager 2: Put him back outside...he was good there anyway.

Guarentee you...90% that would happen if I went back there. I was damn good at my job when I wanted to be, and I could easily keep it up. But the stupid rule was 'close the door when the bay is full' or 'Close the door, clean your side of the lot, then put in lots of carts' Made it harder to keep up the bay....:o what is ironic? We were forced to do that in the winter, cause it would get cold inside....but in the summer? Too busy to keep those door closed.

If I knew LA Film School wouldn't work out.....I probably still be there. I had friends on the inside I kinda miss and ones outside too. For the bad management and stupid rules it is better than fast food. But still....Walmart sucks and Sam Walton is probably rolling in his grave at what his company has become. But hey...Walmart is SO BIG because it now is 24/7, opens on Sunday, and gives smaller bonuses now. And buys it stuff overseas.

Now if only Walmart could buy out BestBuy. Walmart dvd's suck. Fullscreen...bad selections...poorly stocked. Just buy out BestBuy. You could have the BestBuy squad at Walmart. For your computer and dvd/video game needs. And throw in washer and fridges and ****.

[enterthemadness]

Oh, btw I got that girl's number. Came in to get a ice coffee and she asked if I was still interested.

:huh: but do I call later tonight or wait until sometime tomorrow? And I have a feeling it be as friends not a date.

[Erzengel]

I'd call her tomorrow to see if she was busy this weekend.

[enterthemadness]

I'd call her tomorrow to see if she was busy this weekend.

I already kinda know her work sch. Probably be best to set it for Sunday.

[Paradoxium]

ETM.

Don't ask.

Direct.

Don't ask something silly like "do you want to go to Starbucks"? Say "lets go to Starbucks". These minor nuances makes a world of difference. From my experience every girl I have been with, if she has the "interest" she will make time for me, and if its not possible she counter-offers immediately. Anyone who who does not give give you a counter-offer or makes time for you has low IOI (indicator of interest), and is a waste of your time.

[enterthemadness]

ETM.

Don't ask.

Direct.

Don't ask something silly like "do you want to go to Starbucks"? Say "lets go to Starbucks". These minor nuances makes a world of difference. From my experience every girl I have been with, if she has the "interest" she will make time for me, and if its not possible she counter-offers immediately. Anyone who who does not give give you a counter-offer or makes time for you has low IOI (indicator of interest), and is a waste of your time.

Right. So....

'Hey, I'm going to the movies Sunday at 1:45 to see District 9. Wait, I got it.

Let's go see a movie Sunday afternoon. District 9?

:brucebat: I'm a genius!

[Erzengel]

Actually through regular conversation find out what SHE wants to see...then say, Hey, I'll take you to see.....on Sunday.

[Tsunulia]

I wouldn't suggest seeing a movie on the first date. Sitting there watching a movie really takes away from the time you could be spending getting to know each other better. Having just a hang out date with dinner would be better for conversation, during which you could bring up going to the movie on the second date. :cwink:

[enterthemadness]

Good points.

So, so far I can go with 'hey, what movie would you like to see' or the better option ' Hey, instead of going to the movies we can go to Ham's.

I'm so nervous, I better write that last line down.

What's funny is that even though I wanna get to 1st base fast (1st base is kissing, right?) it might be too soon on the 1st time hanging out. I better play the 3 date rule here. Actually Ham's is expensive. I think of something.

[AndThePickles]

I agree, don't go to the movies for a first date.

[enterthemadness]

I agree, don't go to the movies for a first date.

You're right! Although when I asked her out like like last week or so I guess I mentioned the movies cause today she was like 'Do u still wanna go to the movies?' Then at one point she said something like 'I have nothing better to do.'

But yeah, I change it to a restraurant.

[Tsunulia]

:yay: I recommend going to a cheap restaurant for several reasons.

1. It's easy on the wallet.
2. You don't have to be quiet in fear of being kicked out. Cheap places are much more relaxed, you can laugh and talk as much as you want.
3. If she's cool, then she won't mind.



But if all you want is to score then hand her your wallet and do what she says like a good little boy :o

[enterthemadness]

:yay: I recommend going to a cheap restaurant for several reasons.

1. It's easy on the wallet.
2. You don't have to be quiet in fear of being kicked out. Cheap places are much more relaxed, you can laugh and talk as much as you want.
3. If she's cool, then she won't mind.



But if all you want is to score then hand her your wallet and do what she says like a good little boy :o

Let's see...we got...

Ham's
Pizza Hut
Canton's (chinese place)

Then a string of fast food.

But a 15-20 min drive away is Applebee's, Ruby Tuesday, King's Buffet (chinese), Hooter's if I want to be a ********, etc.

[AndThePickles]

Please, please don't take her to Pizza Hut :csad:

[The Original Bamfer]

Please, please don't take her to Pizza Hut :csad:

Hahaha, shhhhhh!

[Tsunulia]

I was thinking along the lines of fast food joints where no one cares if you goof off.

[Dark Phantom]

Good points.

So, so far I can go with 'hey, what movie would you like to see' or the better option ' Hey, instead of going to the movies we can go to Ham's.

I'm so nervous, I better write that last line down.

What's funny is that even though I wanna get to 1st base fast (1st base is kissing, right?) it might be too soon on the 1st time hanging out. I better play the 3 date rule here. Actually Ham's is expensive. I think of something.

A perfect first date is at the beach, I'm telling you. If you don't live near a beach, go to the park. Some of the best ice-breakers are activites like mini-golf, bowling and maybe even going to an arcade or something like a town fair. Point is, you wnat this girl to see you in your element. Relaxed and having fun. The last thing you want is to feel anxious like you need to entertain her. Be surrounded by entertainment so that it can be fun for you as well. When your having fun, she's having fun.

[enterthemadness]

Please, please don't take her to Pizza Hut :csad:

.................................................. .....ok.
Hahaha, shhhhhh!

:cmad: it was a grand idea!!!!!!!!!!:oj/k.

I was thinking along the lines of fast food joints where no one cares if you goof off.

Well, that's not a good 1st date at all. Well, to be fair, I just no longer care for MCD's or BK LOUNGE.

A perfect first date is at the beach, I'm telling you. If you don't live near a beach, go to the park. Some of the best ice-breakers are activites like mini-golf, bowling and maybe even going to an arcade or something like a town fair. Point is, you wnat this girl to see you in your element. Relaxed and having fun. The last thing you want is to feel anxious like you need to entertain her. Be surrounded by entertainment so that it can be fun for you as well. When your having fun, she's having fun.

Beach? Hmmmmmm.....I can't swim. But hasn't stopped me from going. Well I call her tomorrow. I think of something.

[The Original Bamfer]

"Yo gurl, I like you so much that I'll buy two toppings!"

[Gilpesh]

"Yo gurl, I like you so much that I'll buy two toppings!"
"Baby, you know he isn't right for you... I'm the one paying for your three toppings pizzas... you need to get rid of him. The two topping buying mother****er."

[enterthemadness]

"Yo gurl, I like you so much that I'll buy two toppings!"

'Yo gurl, I buy yous the works'

[Paradoxium]

1. Chinese places are obnoxiously loud, unless it is one of those Chinese places designed for westerners, OR they have no business. Movies is a bad idea because it beats the whole purpose of a date; to socialize.

2. If this is your first date with her, stick with something simply like a lounge or a loungy place. If you feel she is worth your while, learn to escalate it into something energetic/action oriented. And if you do something really romantic over the weekend one day. Just avoid her for two or so days after it.... just trust me on this.

3. The logic behind those words is the display of assertiveness. You don't need her god damn permission. She is with you because she wants to be in your company.

[AndThePickles]

"Yo gurl, I like you so much that I'll buy two toppings!"

AND stuff yo crust!

[The Original Bamfer]

"Baby, you know he isn't right for you... I'm the one paying for your three toppings pizzas... you need to get rid of him. The two topping buying mother****er."

"Don't listen to him. LET'S GET STUFFED CRUST! Yeah, you heard me right!"

[The Original Bamfer]

AND stuff yo crust!

OH DAMN! :wow:

[enterthemadness]

AND stuff yo crust!

I can't believe my eyes....did Spoons just post under ATP?

[AndThePickles]

I can't believe my eyes....did Spoons just post under ATP?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/pinkdaydreams/thatsracistgm751224856460.gif

[Gilpesh]

AND stuff yo crust!

"Don't listen to him. LET'S GET STUFFED CRUST! Yeah, you heard me right!"

OH DAMN! :wow:
I know. That was scary...

[Dark Phantom]

1. Chinese places are obnoxiously loud, unless it is one of those Chinese places designed for westerners, OR they have no business. Movies is a bad idea because it beats the whole purpose of a date; to socialize.

2. If this is your first date with her, stick with something simply like a lounge or a loungy place. If you feel she is worth your while, learn to escalate it into something energetic/action oriented. And if you do something really romantic over the weekend one day. Just avoid her for two or so days after it.... just trust me on this.

3. The logic behind those words is the display of assertiveness. You don't need her god damn permission. She is with you because she wants to be in your company.

BEACH !!!! :cmad:

Seriously, if you are awkward one on one, you need a setting of entertainment to play off of.

[Paradoxium]

I personally think drinks is a better idea than a eatery just 'cause its harder to eat and talk at the same time. It depends how polished you are in terms of conversational skills.

[The Original Bamfer]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/pinkdaydreams/thatsracistgm751224856460.gif

I lol'd. Heartily.

[enterthemadness]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/pinkdaydreams/thatsracistgm751224856460.gif

:woot: it makes me laugh.

BEACH !!!! :cmad:

Seriously, if you are awkward one on one, you need a setting of entertainment to play off of.

I personally think drinks is a better idea than a eatery just 'cause its harder to eat and talk at the same time. It depends how polished you are in terms of conversational skills.

I am socially retarded with women.

[Gilpesh]

I am socially retarded with women.
Just women? Stop lying to yourself.

[The Original Bamfer]

Just socially? Stop lying to yourself.

Fixed. :o

[Paradoxium]

Generally more high energy dates make for better conversation material I admit.

I have friends that suck at one-on-one and starts to panic with the girl there and thus bail out (heh). I generally have less of a problem with this. Well most girls, some are so damn quiet and introverted they suck the fun out of everything. But I have managed to crack some pretty borderline-anti-social-overly shy-introverted girls in the past. I dunno if I can explain how to unfortunately.

[Gilpesh]

Fixed. :o
:lmao: :lmao: :up:

[enterthemadness]

Just women? Stop lying to yourself.

:cmad:...:csad:....more socaily retarded with women.

Fixed. :o

Shut up, you.

[Paradoxium]

Girls burp and fart. They ain't special.

I am not sure anyone can coach you on this type of thing. Just go into open ended stuff. Moment you get into those yes/no/one-word answers, you are up ****s creek.

[enterthemadness]

Girls burp and fart. They ain't special.

I am not sure anyone can coach you on this type of thing. Just go into open ended stuff. Moment you get into those yes/no/one-word answers, you are up ****s creek.

:o I wanna be up ****s creek, just not the way....the good one.

[Paradoxium]

The thing is, conversation is only one of the equation, body language is the other (this I have no idea where you stand). There is a matter of congruency as well.

I dunno how describe it best, but don't act like a mousy girl and be a relaxed man.

I don't have much time to dwell on this stuff, but have fun with your date.

[enterthemadness]

The thing is, conversation is only one of the equation, body language is the other (this I have no idea where you stand). There is a matter of congruency as well.

I dunno how describe it best, but don't act like a mousy girl and be a relaxed man.

I don't have much time to dwell on this stuff, but have fun with your date.

Sooo...just relax and have fun? Just say that, man.

[Paradoxium]

Relax as in the body language of a relaxed guy as well as being so mentally. Some guys say they are relaxed but don't look like it. The problem is some guys develop these habits.

Let me put it this way. I have no qualms with scratching my balls in front of the girl, because I don't care :woot::up:

[amazingfantasy15]

I personally think drinks is a better idea than a eatery just 'cause its harder to eat and talk at the same time. It depends how polished you are in terms of conversational skills.

Yeah, I like the grabbing a drink first date. It's relaxed, easy on the wallet and allows for a quick exit if the date isn't going well on either side, but can be extended as well. One thing to do is ask open ended questions and listen, find out her interests and formulate a plan for a second date and ask her towards the end of the date. On my first date with my ex-girlfriend we were talking about how great Robert Downey Jr. was in Iron Man and I knew Tropic Thunder (which she hadn't seen) was playing at a really laid back second run theater called the Brew n' View, kind of a theater with a bar, so I suggested going there, shows you're listening and doing something she's interested in.

You don't need to spend a boat load of cash on fancy dinners, you just need to entertain her. Last girl I went out with I took to a movie in the park, cost for me, a 6 pack of beer and a bag of store bought popcorn, but the date went great we were able to talk during the movie and get closer to each other without an arm rest in the way.

[SLVRSR4]

Haven't posted here in awhile but here we go... School is starting again and I'm looking for someone but the problem is... I tend to sleep with them early on leading to relationships that haven't lasted longer than 7 months. I want someone who I care about instead of just wanting them for sex. This has gotten worse after the seven month relationship I've just been sleeping with women and not having relationships like I want to and it's breaking my heart that I don't care for any of these people.

I'm hoping you can provide some insight because the only girl I actually like is a lesbian, but that's a story for a different day.

[Erzengel]

It's not uncommon what you are going through. How many "dates" does it usually take before you sleep with someone?

[amazingfantasy15]

Haven't posted here in awhile but here we go... School is starting again and I'm looking for someone but the problem is... I tend to sleep with them early on leading to relationships that haven't lasted longer than 7 months. I want someone who I care about instead of just wanting them for sex. This has gotten worse after the seven month relationship I've just been sleeping with women and not having relationships like I want to and it's breaking my heart that I don't care for any of these people.

I'm hoping you can provide some insight because the only girl I actually like is a lesbian, but that's a story for a different day.

Well sounds like you already know what the solution is, next girl you start going out with take things slowly.

[Anita18]

Haven't posted here in awhile but here we go... School is starting again and I'm looking for someone but the problem is... I tend to sleep with them early on leading to relationships that haven't lasted longer than 7 months. I want someone who I care about instead of just wanting them for sex. This has gotten worse after the seven month relationship I've just been sleeping with women and not having relationships like I want to and it's breaking my heart that I don't care for any of these people.

I'm hoping you can provide some insight because the only girl I actually like is a lesbian, but that's a story for a different day.
I don't think sleeping with someone early on is the issue. Maybe it's that you've convinced yourself that since you're sleeping with them, you must care for them when you actually don't.

You don't have to love everyone that you date. I certainly don't fall in love easily, although I know people who seem to fall head over heels at the drop of a hat. For me, it mostly takes time physically being with someone. Most guys don't have that patience. :funny: Maybe you're just wanting it too badly.

Have you actually been in love before? If you have, seeing what happened there could help.

[E-Man]

Relax as in the body language of a relaxed guy as well as being so mentally. Some guys say they are relaxed but don't look like it. The problem is some guys develop these habits.

Let me put it this way. I have no qualms with scratching my balls in front of the girl, because I don't care :woot::up:

That last line is classic. You're my new bestest friend.:woot:

[E-Man]

Haven't posted here in awhile but here we go... School is starting again and I'm looking for someone but the problem is... I tend to sleep with them early on leading to relationships that haven't lasted longer than 7 months. I want someone who I care about instead of just wanting them for sex. This has gotten worse after the seven month relationship I've just been sleeping with women and not having relationships like I want to and it's breaking my heart that I don't care for any of these people.

I'm hoping you can provide some insight because the only girl I actually like is a lesbian, but that's a story for a different day.

Your probably seems like you haven't found a girl that interests you past the sex. Maybe it's that sex is a bigger priority to you than personality, or it's that the girls you've been dating don't have much substance. Whatever is causing your problem, figure it out before your next date. You have to first figure out what type of girl you want, and then figure out what's so special about that type of girl. Then you figure out where a girl like this would be at, and then you pursue her at a slower pace than usual. To insure that you're going to go slower, do something different/ Instead of going out on your usual first date, go somewhere that will really test her early on. When you meet people, they aren't really themselves. They put up barriers around themselves, and you really just meet their "representative." Go somewhere that will put her out of her element enough to be real with you, so that way you can catch glimpses of her true personality. If you like that personality, then go further with her. If you feel like she could be untrue, then just abandon ship before things get out of hand. A way to peek into people's true personality is their laughter. Laughing makes people feel comfortable, and when someone is comfortable they'll be more intimate, intimate personality wise and not sex:oldrazz:, and they'll tell you things straight up without impressing you with lies.

As for the lesbian chick, maybe you like her because you can't have her. Maybe you like lesbians. Who knows?:hehe:

[amazingfantasy15]

Haven't posted here in awhile but here we go... School is starting again and I'm looking for someone but the problem is... I tend to sleep with them early on leading to relationships that haven't lasted longer than 7 months. I want someone who I care about instead of just wanting them for sex. This has gotten worse after the seven month relationship I've just been sleeping with women and not having relationships like I want to and it's breaking my heart that I don't care for any of these people.

I'm hoping you can provide some insight because the only girl I actually like is a lesbian, but that's a story for a different day.

I think it's kind of funny that the only girl you're actually interested in is a lesbian since your username is obviously from Karoline in Runaways....wait a minute, this lesbian isn't Karoline from Runaways is it?!?! Comic characters aren't real!

[Erzengel]

Maybe it's the whole can't have what you want aspect in regards to the lesbian? :huh:

[enterthemadness]

Instead of the movies, we are officially going out to eat sometime. She will call me.

[amazingfantasy15]

Instead of the movies, we are officially going out to eat sometime. She will call me.

Wait, she'll call you? You didn't set a specific date? You're really setting yourself up for failure here.

[Anita18]

Wait, she'll call you? You didn't set a specific date? You're really setting yourself up for failure here.
Eh, no relationship sticks to the "formula."

But I agree that you do need to be more assertive. Or at least come up with some concrete suggestions. It's more likely that you never get around to a date, than her thinking you're a spineless wimp.

[AndThePickles]

*sigh*

[SLVRSR4]

It's not uncommon what you are going through. How many "dates" does it usually take before you sleep with someone?

one date:csad:


I don't think sleeping with someone early on is the issue. Maybe it's that you've convinced yourself that since you're sleeping with them, you must care for them when you actually don't.

You don't have to love everyone that you date. I certainly don't fall in love easily, although I know people who seem to fall head over heels at the drop of a hat. For me, it mostly takes time physically being with someone. Most guys don't have that patience. :funny: Maybe you're just wanting it too badly.

Have you actually been in love before? If you have, seeing what happened there could help.

I thought I was in love but remember the person I loved was someone I had sex with on a daily basis.:csad: Your thinking of not loving someone you date or not liking them a lot bothers me because I'm about honesty and I would want to tell them if i didn't like them but that is mean. That was a really long run-on sentence.

Your probably seems like you haven't found a girl that interests you past the sex. Maybe it's that sex is a bigger priority to you than personality, or it's that the girls you've been dating don't have much substance. Whatever is causing your problem, figure it out before your next date. You have to first figure out what type of girl you want, and then figure out what's so special about that type of girl. Then you figure out where a girl like this would be at, and then you pursue her at a slower pace than usual. To insure that you're going to go slower, do something different/ Instead of going out on your usual first date, go somewhere that will really test her early on. When you meet people, they aren't really themselves. They put up barriers around themselves, and you really just meet their "representative." Go somewhere that will put her out of her element enough to be real with you, so that way you can catch glimpses of her true personality. If you like that personality, then go further with her. If you feel like she could be untrue, then just abandon ship before things get out of hand. A way to peek into people's true personality is their laughter. Laughing makes people feel comfortable, and when someone is comfortable they'll be more intimate, intimate personality wise and not sex:oldrazz:, and they'll tell you things straight up without impressing you with lies.

As for the lesbian chick, maybe you like her because you can't have her. Maybe you like lesbians. Who knows?:hehe:

I think it's a combination of substance and priority, but with the lesbian girl the fact I know she's not interested has made me be myself around her and I find I like her more than any girl I've dated. I'm falling into some money soon so I'll be able to do more things dating wise. Have any suggestions where I can take her to find said laughter?

I'm a b/tard so I rarely find females with that type of humor.



I think it's kind of funny that the only girl you're actually interested in is a lesbian since your username is obviously from Karoline in Runaways....wait a minute, this lesbian isn't Karoline from Runaways is it?!?! Comic characters aren't real!

:yay:

Maybe it's the whole can't have what you want aspect in regards to the lesbian? :huh:

A little bit, but we almost dated before she came out of the closet, so... I think somehow she might come back to the hetero side:o

[Cunning Stunts]

All my efforts to get back into dating (it's been a few months since I ended my 2-year relationship) have failed miserably. I just got pwned by an old friend who said she'd see a movie with me, then when I followed up, I got the cold shoulder.

I guess she caught on that the movie was probably more than just a friendly thing...

My game sucks. :hehe:

[DarkReflections]

one date:csad:




I thought I was in love but remember the person I loved was someone I had sex with on a daily basis.:csad: Your thinking of not loving someone you date or not liking them a lot bothers me because I'm about honesty and I would want to tell them if i didn't like them but that is mean. That was a really long run-on sentence.



I think it's a combination of substance and priority, but with the lesbian girl the fact I know she's not interested has made me be myself around her and I find I like her more than any girl I've dated. I'm falling into some money soon so I'll be able to do more things dating wise. Have any suggestions where I can take her to find said laughter?

I'm a b/tard so I rarely find females with that type of humor.





:yay:



A little bit, but we almost dated before she came out of the closet, so... I think somehow she might come back to the hetero side:o

this conversation reminds me of chasing amy. i want to watch chasing amy again.

[enterthemadness]

Wait, she'll call you? You didn't set a specific date? You're really setting yourself up for failure here.

....

Eh, no relationship sticks to the "formula."

But I agree that you do need to be more assertive. Or at least come up with some concrete suggestions. It's more likely that you never get around to a date, than her thinking you're a spineless wimp.

...wait for it.

*sigh*

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/5600/strikeout.jpg

:hehe::woot:

[Anita18]

I thought I was in love but remember the person I loved was someone I had sex with on a daily basis.:csad: Your thinking of not loving someone you date or not liking them a lot bothers me because I'm about honesty and I would want to tell them if i didn't like them but that is mean. That was a really long run-on sentence.
Well I dunno, who's doing the breaking up after the 7 month period? If you are, then maybe there just isn't a lot of substance in these relationships past sex, no matter what you want to believe. If she is, maybe sex is all she wants and isn't serious about anything else.

Relationships don't just "fizzle out" after 7 months arbitrarily, unless you weren't serious in the first place.

[Erzengel]

one date:csad:




I thought I was in love but remember the person I loved was someone I had sex with on a daily basis.:csad: Your thinking of not loving someone you date or not liking them a lot bothers me because I'm about honesty and I would want to tell them if i didn't like them but that is mean. That was a really long run-on sentence.



I think it's a combination of substance and priority, but with the lesbian girl the fact I know she's not interested has made me be myself around her and I find I like her more than any girl I've dated. I'm falling into some money soon so I'll be able to do more things dating wise. Have any suggestions where I can take her to find said laughter?

I'm a b/tard so I rarely find females with that type of humor.





:yay:



A little bit, but we almost dated before she came out of the closet, so... I think somehow she might come back to the hetero side:o
It sounds like you have commitment issues. And it could be a variety of reasons:

1. You can not be ready for a relationship. What I mean is, maybe right now you aren't meant to be in a relationship and as long as the women you are with are aware of that.

2. It could just be the thrill of the chase, which the only option is really to hold off on sex for a while, try waiting after the first few dates. Wait a month or even longer, until you can really discern your feelings for someone. Also, be honest with whomever you are with, they more than likely will understand and even might endear them to you.

[amazingfantasy15]

....

...wait for it.

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/5600/strikeout.jpg

:hehe::woot:

What's this mean? She back out of the date already or something? If that's the case use this as a learning experience, make sure you make real plans. If she's not available for the day you suggest, ask what day she is available. Just do everything you can to make real plans before ending the call. The way you post suggests a lack of confidence and if someone can see that from your writing style, they'll definitely see it in the way you talk. So show confidence, think in your mind, she's lucky that I'm asking her out.

[AndThePickles]

I agree, ETM is acting like he's destined to fail. He showed it when he said he figured she'd think it was just as friends. Be confident: you are taking this girl out on a DATE, and it will be AWESOME.

[Frodo]

All my efforts to get back into dating (it's been a few months since I ended my 2-year relationship) have failed miserably. I just got pwned by an old friend who said she'd see a movie with me, then when I followed up, I got the cold shoulder.

I guess she caught on that the movie was probably more than just a friendly thing...

My game sucks. :hehe:

Sorry about the break up man. It's nearly impossible to leave the friend zone as far as women are concerned..but yeah the game sucks.

I'm sure you'll meet someone else , even if it doesn't happen right away.

[Paradoxium]

ETM, you have to understand it in a framing issue. She is going out with you because she wants to have fun with you. You don't need to get her permission on anything.

Meaning:
a. you don't have to ask her if she wants to head out
b. don't delegate the decision to her as to when and where, this whole thing was your idea anyways

You set a date, if it doesn't work (set date) - work it out on the spot immediately. If she keeps dancing around you without a counter-offer, it's BS. Just call it out, cut it off and do not even look back at her. Plenty more fish in the sea as they say.

[enterthemadness]

What's this mean? She back out of the date already or something? If that's the case use this as a learning experience, make sure you make real plans. If she's not available for the day you suggest, ask what day she is available. Just do everything you can to make real plans before ending the call. The way you post suggests a lack of confidence and if someone can see that from your writing style, they'll definitely see it in the way you talk. So show confidence, think in your mind, she's lucky that I'm asking her out.

Oh, that was to the three replies I got about the latest on what is happening. She will call, me not be aggressive enough. I thought it was amusing.

I have a friend who's gf chose her friends over him...and they've been going out for like 3 or 4 years, (I think).

[Erzengel]

How do you know she will call? :huh:

[enterthemadness]

How do you know she will call? :huh:

Because.....:o...she said so, after I gave her my name and number on a piece of paper. I just realized she may not call after all.....oh well, Eureka and Psych are on tonight.

[Erzengel]

You should have said something along the lines of, "Maybe you should give me your number in case you lose mine." :huh:

[AndThePickles]

Because.....:o...she said so, after I gave her my name and number on a piece of paper. I just realized she may not call after all.....oh well, Eureka and Psych are on tonight.

Did she ask for your number, or did you just give it to her? You should have asked for hers.

[enterthemadness]

You should have said something along the lines of, "Maybe you should give me your number in case you lose mine." :huh:

Oh, no, I got her number first. See, I called yesterday and left her a voice mail about changing it from a movie to something to eat. Few hours later I go in to get some coffee and we talk and she says 'Oh, got your message, that is fine, but (and I think she said)I spilled beer on the caller id so couldn't call you back and you didn't leave your number in the voice mail. Then I gave her my contact info.

[AndThePickles]

Oh, no, I got her number first. See, I called yesterday and left her a voice mail about changing it from a movie to something to eat. Few hours later I go in to get some coffee and we talk and she says 'Oh, got your message, that is fine, but (and I think she said)I spilled beer on the caller id so couldn't call you back and you didn't leave your number in the voice mail. Then I gave her my contact info.

Ha, did she REALLY spill beer on the caller id, though? :csad:

[Paradoxium]

:funny:

[enterthemadness]

Ha, did she REALLY spill beer on the caller id, though? :csad:


I think that's what she said. That doesn't add up cause it was clearly her cell and not home phone she gave me. Wait...ok, I honestly don't know, I just assume it was her cell.

Also, um....um....I don't know if she's emo, but she is clearly a...well, I've seen scratches if you get my drift. And she used to be engaged not that long ago.

[Paradoxium]

If she has any redflags and baggage 'next' her. Every moment you waste with her, you lose out on another potential girl. That's what I would do, look elsewhere starting now.

[enterthemadness]

If she has any redflags and baggage 'next' her. Every moment you waste with her, you lose out on another potential girl. That's what I would do, look elsewhere starting now.

Nah, I wait a bit.

[Erzengel]

If she has any redflags and baggage 'next' her. Every moment you waste with her, you lose out on another potential girl. That's what I would do, look elsewhere starting now.
The older you get, everyone you meet will have some sort of baggage/nuances/issues about them.

[Paradoxium]

Wait for what? For her to take a **** in your living room, whilst you reward her with a peddle of roses. Move on. You're better than this, have more self respect.

[amazingfantasy15]

Oh, no, I got her number first. See, I called yesterday and left her a voice mail about changing it from a movie to something to eat. Few hours later I go in to get some coffee and we talk and she says 'Oh, got your message, that is fine, but (and I think she said)I spilled beer on the caller id so couldn't call you back and you didn't leave your number in the voice mail. Then I gave her my contact info.

I think that's what she said. That doesn't add up cause it was clearly her cell and not home phone she gave me. Wait...ok, I honestly don't know, I just assume it was her cell.

Also, um....um....I don't know if she's emo, but she is clearly a...well, I've seen scratches if you get my drift. And she used to be engaged not that long ago.

Wow, this is comedy gold here! First she doesn't seem to interested, the spilled beer on her called id sounds like a lie, who even has a called id anymore. Second, always, always leave your number when you're leaving a message. Third, she was recently engaged, that's a huge red flag, well, maybe not you could get some meaningless rebound sex, chances are you're not getting a girlfriend though.

[Paradoxium]

The older you get, everyone you meet will have some sort of baggage/nuances/issues about them.Yes, but there are limits. Single moms, wrist slitters, and war pigs.

[enterthemadness]

Wait for what? For her to take a **** in your living room, whilst you reward her with a peddle of roses. Move on. You're better than this, have more self respect.

Hope not, I'm not into that stuff, yo. And I don't like roses. And they are overrated to give to women.

[Erzengel]

Yes, but there are limits. Single moms, wrist slitters, and war pigs.
Women with low self esteem and father issues. :heart:

[enterthemadness]

Yes, but there are limits. Single moms, wrist slitters, and war pigs.

Single moms are hot. But even I know not to ask them out. For various reasons.

War pigs?

:wow: wow.

[enterthemadness]

Women with low self esteem and father issues. :heart:

Strippers.

[SLVRSR4]

Well I dunno, who's doing the breaking up after the 7 month period? If you are, then maybe there just isn't a lot of substance in these relationships past sex, no matter what you want to believe. If she is, maybe sex is all she wants and isn't serious about anything else.

Relationships don't just "fizzle out" after 7 months arbitrarily, unless you weren't serious in the first place.

that's the thing though it was just one day... I don't ove you anymore and it was over.


It sounds like you have commitment issues. And it could be a variety of reasons:

1. You can not be ready for a relationship. What I mean is, maybe right now you aren't meant to be in a relationship and as long as the women you are with are aware of that.

2. It could just be the thrill of the chase, which the only option is really to hold off on sex for a while, try waiting after the first few dates. Wait a month or even longer, until you can really discern your feelings for someone. Also, be honest with whomever you are with, they more than likely will understand and even might endear them to you.

I'm usually a bored person so i think you're right with the thrill of the chase.

[E-Man]

I think it's a combination of substance and priority, but with the lesbian girl the fact I know she's not interested has made me be myself around her and I find I like her more than any girl I've dated. I'm falling into some money soon so I'll be able to do more things dating wise. Have any suggestions where I can take her to find said laughter?

I'm a b/tard so I rarely find females with that type of humor.



There are two keys to getting a girl to laugh.
1. You have to be a funny guy. Either you have it or you don't. This could be her finding what you say is funny, or her laughing at the things you do. You can be friend zoned if you're funny, so throw in a few raunchy jokes to throw her off of that "nice guy" crap. It's good to be a nice guy, but don't be a "nice guy." As far as being funny goes, just be yourself. If you're not naturally a funny guy, then don't try to be. If you try all hell will break loose.:funny:
2. Watch funny movies or shows with her. If you're not a funny guy, then the best way to get her laughing is to engage in watching some comedy with her. This could be going to a comedy club, taking her to see a funny movie, or inviting her over to your place to watch your collection of Seinfeld or something similar. Here you have to really get into what she likes. If she's a conservative girl, George Carlin would ruin your chances. If she's liberal Bill Cosby might not be too funny. Comedy clubs are always good because you never know what you're going to get. That way you are in a low risk, high reward situation. If the comics there suck, it's not your fault since you didn't know who would be there, plus you can use those sucky comics to gauge what she finds funny. That way you can invite her to another date easily. If the comics are great she'll be like, "OMG I haven't had this much fun in awhile." Then it's all down hill from there.:woot:

Be careful with the money you spend though. When it comes to women and money you walk a really thin line of keeping control. If you spend too much early it'll be increasingly hard to impress her after that. If you spend too little she could be prone to calling out your manhood. Personally I'm pretty cynical about money, so I always take girls out to something cheap but different before deciding whether or not they're worth spending good money on. Since I want a girl with intelligence and an open mind to different things, I always make my first date a museum. There is plenty of time there to talk and get to know her, and it really tests how different she is from all the other women. If she raises objections then I just bounce her for not being open minded. If she's extraordinary I'll have a good time with her, and we'll have good debates and laughter. In the end I only waste $5 that would've only bought me 10 tacos that I really don't need. You don't have to go the museum route, but try to find a nice niche like that so you can clear some built in societal hurdles early on.

ETM, you have to understand it in a framing issue. She is going out with you because she wants to have fun with you. You don't need to get her permission on anything.

Meaning:
a. you don't have to ask her if she wants to head out
b. don't delegate the decision to her as to when and where, this whole thing was your idea anyways

You set a date, if it doesn't work (set date) - work it out on the spot immediately. If she keeps dancing around you without a counter-offer, it's BS. Just call it out, cut it off and do not even look back at her. Plenty more fish in the sea as they say.

This man knows what he's talking about. If you leave things up to her early she will walk all over you eventually.

[enterthemadness]

This man knows what he's talking about. If you leave things up to her early she will walk all over you eventually.

Last time I checked, the only bad thing about being whipped is not getting any action of any kind while being whipped.

[E-Man]

Last time I checked, the only bad thing about being whipped is not getting any action of any kind while being whipped.

You get more action if you threaten her. Just call her and say, "*****! We're going to Red Lobster on Saturday, and you better order from the kids menu!:cmad:"

If you do that, she'll fall hopelessly in love with you.:cwink:

[Paradoxium]

If you can't respect yourself, don't expect any respect from her.

[enterthemadness]

If she doesn't call, I won't really care. Still don't have a job.

[spideyboy_1111]

I need to stop falling for friends.... that's all i get. I'm so tired of the "friend" speech... I'm pretty sure that's all i've gotten for the past 7-8 years

[enterthemadness]

I need to stop falling for friends.... that's all i get. I'm so tired of the "friend" speech... I'm pretty sure that's all i've gotten for the past 7-8 years

That's why when you meet women...you gotta act quick. is she gonna be a friend, friend with benefits, who a girlfriend? Because once you get into that friend zone....you are stuck there like a nail in a door frame.


Also, it's been like 2 days and this girl hasn't called me. Oh well, her lost.

[The Squirrel]

That's why when you meet women...you gotta act quick. is she gonna be a friend, friend with benefits, who a girlfriend? Because once you get into that friend zone....you are stuck there like a nail in a door frame.


Also, it's been like 2 days and this girl hasn't called me. Oh well, her lost.

Haha.

[enterthemadness]

Haha.

I like making people laugh.

[The Original Bamfer]

That's why when you meet women...you gotta act quick. is she gonna be a friend, friend with benefits, who a girlfriend? Because once you get into that friend zone....you are stuck there like a nail in a door frame.


Also, it's been like 2 days and this girl hasn't called me. Oh well, her lost.

Does that lovely piece of incomprehensible advice apply to men, too? Because, yeah, I'm pretty sure spideyboy's situation that you can apparently relate to involves a male friend. :o

[enterthemadness]

Does that lovely piece of incomprehensible advice apply to men, too? Because, yeah, I'm pretty sure spideyboy's situation that you can apparently relate to involves a male friend. :o

He's Bi or Gay? How am I suppose to know this ****? :huh:

[spideyboy_1111]

That's why when you meet women...you gotta act quick. is she gonna be a friend, friend with benefits, who a girlfriend? Because once you get into that friend zone....you are stuck there like a nail in a door frame.


Also, it's been like 2 days and this girl hasn't called me. Oh well, her lost.

i like boys dude

[spideyboy_1111]

He's Bi or Gay? How am I suppose to know this ****? :huh:

the NOH8 and Equality signs kinda give it away... not all of us tote rainbow flags :-P

[enterthemadness]

i like boys dude

Ok.

the NOH8 and Equality signs kinda give it away... not all of us tote rainbow flags :-P

....:huh: what? Enlighten me.

[The Original Bamfer]

Also, it's hilarious that you think you understand women enough to make a generalization about them and talk as if it's fact considering, from what I understand, you've had very little experience with the opposite sex.

[Cunning Stunts]

Sorry about the break up man. It's nearly impossible to leave the friend zone as far as women are concerned..but yeah the game sucks.

I'm sure you'll meet someone else , even if it doesn't happen right away.

Haha, the break-up was my decision. I got over it very quickly. It was a true sign that the relationship probably should have ended a lot sooner than it did.

Yeah, the odd thing is, I haven't talked to this girl too often for a very long time, so I don't know why the friend zone really comes into effect. I dunno, I guess it was worth a shot. I'm sure I'll find someone soon. Not in a huge rush, I just think it's funny that I basically play the bad guy in my past relationship (which gave me a lot more self-confidence than I previously had, probably since I had nothing to lose before), only to find that I'm getting slaughtered like I used to. :up:

[enterthemadness]

Also, it's hilarious that you think you understand women enough to make a generalization about them and talk as if it's fact considering, from what I understand, you've had very little experience with the opposite sex.

I just said stuff I've heard in shows and in life, man.

[spideyboy_1111]

Ok.



....:huh: what? Enlighten me.

on what? NOH8?
http://www.noh8campaign.com/

Equality? Human Rights Campaign?
http://www.hrc.org/

[spideyboy_1111]

I just said stuff I've heard in shows and in life, man.

shows arn't real life man. Relationships are far from movies. Welcome to the sad truth of reality.

[enterthemadness]

on what? NOH8?
http://www.noh8campaign.com/

Equality? Human Rights Campaign?
http://www.hrc.org/

Ah, okay. Everybody should have rights.

shows arn't real life man. Relationships are far from movies. Welcome to the sad truth of reality.

Yes, real life isn't like most rom-com's.

[enterthemadness]

Who would have though that a relationship thread would be dead on a comic book forum. :whatever:


Well....went out with her to Hams for dinner. It was awkward. The food wasn't that good. ...........................It wasn't terrible, but we didn't really connect and I think we both got that. Also...um....yeeeeeeeeeah.....um....her saying flat out that she's a pothead was a conversation killer. No offense...have nothing against weed, don't do it...I dunno. I probably have some fun, but nothing serious with her. And she's 19 even though she looks like 23. We might do something this week at night. One of us might call...it be pool or a movie.

[AndThePickles]

Hit it and quit it, ETM. I think it's clear you just need to get laid before anything else, anyways :o

[Tsunulia]

Ya, you better not get too involved with her ETM or she'll start hitting you up for money... :(

[Paradoxium]

Hit it and quit itI second this motion. :woot::up:

[terry78]

Who would have though that a relationship thread would be dead on a comic book forum. :whatever:


Well....went out with her to Hams for dinner. It was awkward. The food wasn't that good. ...........................It wasn't terrible, but we didn't really connect and I think we both got that. Also...um....yeeeeeeeeeah.....um....her saying flat out that she's a pothead was a conversation killer. No offense...have nothing against weed, don't do it...I dunno. I probably have some fun, but nothing serious with her. And she's 19 even though she looks like 23. We might do something this week at night. One of us might call...it be pool or a movie.


Geeks don't have relationships, we only want to ****.

[SLVRSR4]

There are two keys to getting a girl to laugh.
1. You have to be a funny guy. Either you have it or you don't. This could be her finding what you say is funny, or her laughing at the things you do. You can be friend zoned if you're funny, so throw in a few raunchy jokes to throw her off of that "nice guy" crap. It's good to be a nice guy, but don't be a "nice guy." As far as being funny goes, just be yourself. If you're not naturally a funny guy, then don't try to be. If you try all hell will break loose.:funny:
2. Watch funny movies or shows with her. If you're not a funny guy, then the best way to get her laughing is to engage in watching some comedy with her. This could be going to a comedy club, taking her to see a funny movie, or inviting her over to your place to watch your collection of Seinfeld or something similar. Here you have to really get into what she likes. If she's a conservative girl, George Carlin would ruin your chances. If she's liberal Bill Cosby might not be too funny. Comedy clubs are always good because you never know what you're going to get. That way you are in a low risk, high reward situation. If the comics there suck, it's not your fault since you didn't know who would be there, plus you can use those sucky comics to gauge what she finds funny. That way you can invite her to another date easily. If the comics are great she'll be like, "OMG I haven't had this much fun in awhile." Then it's all down hill from there.:woot:

Be careful with the money you spend though. When it comes to women and money you walk a really thin line of keeping control. If you spend too much early it'll be increasingly hard to impress her after that. If you spend too little she could be prone to calling out your manhood. Personally I'm pretty cynical about money, so I always take girls out to something cheap but different before deciding whether or not they're worth spending good money on. Since I want a girl with intelligence and an open mind to different things, I always make my first date a museum. There is plenty of time there to talk and get to know her, and it really tests how different she is from all the other women. If she raises objections then I just bounce her for not being open minded. If she's extraordinary I'll have a good time with her, and we'll have good debates and laughter. In the end I only waste $5 that would've only bought me 10 tacos that I really don't need. You don't have to go the museum route, but try to find a nice niche like that so you can clear some built in societal hurdles early on.



This man knows what he's talking about. If you leave things up to her early she will walk all over you eventually.

I know you live in Texas, but I like the taco comparison with money spending.:oldrazz:

[terry78]

A good opener is to be like, if she agrees to a date, say, "your treat of course." Obviously you can pay since you're axing, but a little sarcasm never fails. Just make sure you don't say it with a straight face.

[Cunning Stunts]

Hit it and quit it, ETM. I think it's clear you just need to get laid before anything else, anyways :o

Holy ****, a well-thought out, nice woman is saying this? There is a ****ing God. :hehe:

[The Original Bamfer]

Holy ****, a well-thought out, nice woman is saying this? There is a ****ing God. :hehe:

Yeah, but she's taken. :csad:

[AndThePickles]

I think that ETM would be the worst boyfriend ever right now (no offense, ETM). He knows nothing about women, and likely nothing about their anatomy, either. He needs to get laid, get out that pent up frustration, and do some learning first. Otherwise he'll either chase every woman away, or become obsessively attached to the first piece of booty he can get.

[Gilpesh]

I think that ETM would be the worst boyfriend ever right now (no offense, ETM).
I agree with that (complete offense, ETM).

[Paradoxium]

In other words he needs a **** buddy. :woot:

[The Original Bamfer]

Too bad more chicks aren't into the whole workout-in-jean-shorts thing, huh? :o

[-Arya-]

I agree with that (complete offense, ETM).
:lmao:

[Dark Phantom]

My advice to any guy: let the girl chase you. Simple as that. The best relationships are often the ones that fall into your lap. Because in the end, the best girl you find is all by coincidence. Its best not searching at all and let the girl come to you. Don't act interested. Don't give signals or impose. Tease these girls. Sure what do I know? But the fact is most often the girls we dont like, like us and vice versa. So why not turn the tables? That's my motto.

[enterthemadness]

I think that ETM would be the worst boyfriend ever right now (no offense, ETM). He knows nothing about women, and likely nothing about their anatomy, either. He needs to get laid, get out that pent up frustration, and do some learning first. Otherwise he'll either chase every woman away, or become obsessively attached to the first piece of booty he can get.

Well, that ruins my confidence, but I also kinda knew that.

I agree with that (complete offense, ETM).

I will let that slide....cause you like The Guild.

In other words he needs a **** buddy. :woot:

Be nice...

Too bad more chicks aren't into the whole workout-in-jean-shorts thing, huh? :o

I no longer wear jean shorts to work out in unless I have no other choice.

[Paradoxium]

If all else fails he could always date an Asian girl

[enterthemadness]

If all else fails he could always date an Asian girl

Probably my best option....just for the fact Asian women are used to their men not packing. :o

[AndThePickles]

My Asian female friends are some of the pickiest women I know, you jerks.

[-Arya-]

My Asian female friends are some of the pickiest women I know, you jerks.
What. You expect some people to stop making hasty generalizations even after you've pointed that out to them numerous times? :o

[The Original Bamfer]

Probably my best option....just for the fact Asian women are used to their men not packing. :o

But judging by your generalization, they're also used to men who are intelligent. :whatever:

[Erzengel]

I think that ETM would be the worst boyfriend ever right now (no offense, ETM). He knows nothing about women, and likely nothing about their anatomy, either. He needs to get laid, get out that pent up frustration, and do some learning first. Otherwise he'll either chase every woman away, or become obsessively attached to the first piece of booty he can get.

In other words he needs a **** buddy. :woot:

While I agree that ETM needs some sort of female contact, honestly if he is having trouble finding a gf, I'm not sure he would be successful with a a "good time" girl. :o

I think he needs to start at square one. Just talking to women.

[AndThePickles]

Oh, I don't think he needs a **** buddy, either. He needs to get laid once, before ANYTHING. And then hopefully never see that girl again :o

[Erzengel]

ATP give ETM a call. Practice the art of conversing. :up:

[Cunning Stunts]

Yeah, but she's taken. :csad:

I know, she showed up with her boyfriend at my work. It was an attack on SHH male population (even Spoons :wow:) as a whole. :(

I think that ETM would be the worst boyfriend ever right now (no offense, ETM). He knows nothing about women, and likely nothing about their anatomy, either. He needs to get laid, get out that pent up frustration, and do some learning first. Otherwise he'll either chase every woman away, or become obsessively attached to the first piece of booty he can get.

I agree. We should send him a blow up doll so he can get a little more acquainted.

[AndThePickles]

If attempts at conversing on a messageboard aren't helping, I doubt a phone call will :csad:

[Paradoxium]

My Asian female friends are some of the pickiest women I know, you jerks.There are outliers yes, and background is important. But from my experience they are the easiest in the sense they do tend to tolerate more "game" miscues. Although some of them can be quite money driven. I have witnessed it with some of my not-so-good-with-other-girls buddies, land pretty decent asian girls.

****, all I have to say is "Harry Knowles". She is a bit chunky but a pretty smile.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2225/l24956574b56a4641f2bd3cv.jpg

Hopefully Anita is too busy for this entire week to read this, or she will bite my head off :woot::up:

[enterthemadness]

Oh, I don't think he needs a **** buddy, either. He needs to get laid once, before ANYTHING. And then hopefully never see that girl again :o

:csad: killing my confidence, although to be fair the word: Trouble: comes to mind with that girl. She said something about court in like 2 weeks. Unpaid ticket or weed, I can't remember.

I dunno. I don't even have a job. Although subway in walmart is hiring, so I get application 2morrow there. Turned in one at gamestop....printed it off online and turned it in, but I don't think they were hiring, although the guy there started to look it over after I turned it in.

[AndThePickles]

That girl is more than "a bit chunky" :csad:

[AndThePickles]

:csad: killing my confidence, although to be fair the word: Trouble: comes to mind with that girl. She said something about court in like 2 weeks. Unpaid ticket or weed, I can't remember.

I dunno. I don't even have a job. Although subway in walmart is hiring, so I get application 2morrow there. Turned in one at gamestop....printed it off online and turned it in, but I don't think they were hiring, although the guy there started to look it over after I turned it in.

Aw, I'm not trying to kill your confidence. I really think you need to work on YOU before you go after a relationship. You need to be confident in yourself, and happy with yourself. The rest will come naturally.

[Paradoxium]

That girl is more than "a bit chunky" :csad:She is not what I qualify as a cute asian girl. Someone like Jinglei Xu is cute.

[terry78]

I seriously hope this thread does not end up with someone getting killed.

[enterthemadness]

ATP give ETM a call. Practice the art of conversing. :up:


My speech is bad in person. Hell, the girl thought I was half deaf due to the way I talked a few days ago. Usually people think I'm European. Just imagine how bad I sound on the phone.

[Paradoxium]

ETM if you wanna build confidence the old fashion way start with some of the basics.

Refocus a bit.

Hit the gym and pursue some kind of passion or interest. Like if you love to play the guitar or piano go for it. It is one of the first steps to getting your mind off the "24/7 must pursue pussy" mindset.

[enterthemadness]

Aw, I'm not trying to kill your confidence. I really think you need to work on YOU before you go after a relationship. You need to be confident in yourself, and happy with yourself. The rest will come naturally.

I was happy playing a game of 21 after the date. What I wasn't happy about. That game of 21 last almost a hour cause this one guy was counting his points. ****, by the team he said he got 21, he had to of already won like 10 times already. I was so tired from guarding him and playing hard I didn't do much weight lifting. Just did my dumbbell bicep work with 35 and 40's weights. But it was awesome. And I made 18 points and worked on my inside game. Although I felt like sleeping or throwing up afterwards.

[enterthemadness]

ETM if you wanna build confidence the old fashion way start with some of the basics.

Refocus a bit.

Hit the gym and pursue some kind of passion or interest. Like if you love to play the guitar or piano go for it. It is one of the first steps to getting your mind off the "24/7 must pursue pussy" mindset.

I try to lift weights and play basketball. Although if I play basketball to long with people, I end up having almost no engery to lift. Which is what kids call: Piss Poor cardio these days. And I love movies and some tv shows.

[Paradoxium]

Movies, tv shows and shopping does not count as passions and hobbies I'm afraid. You have to have some thing of some talent and requires focus on. With music, you have to either have the creative drive to compose, or the technical aptitude and patience to play.

You don't need amazing cardio for weight training. Just be efficient and do the big lifts, like deads, cleans, squats, bench, military, pulls, dips etc...

[enterthemadness]

Movies, tv shows and shopping does not count as passions and hobbies I'm afraid. You have to have some thing of some talent and requires focus on. With music, you have to either have the creative drive to compose, or the technical aptitude and patience to play.

You don't need amazing cardio for weight training. Just be efficient and do the big lifts, like deads, cleans, squats, bench, military, pulls, dips etc...

I do squats, bench, dips. Haven't done military since high school. Also work on my back, biceps, and shoulders.

And where the **** did I say shopping? I don't care for that. Well, dvd's and games, but still.

[Paradoxium]

I included shopping for the hell of it. One of my pet peeves when someone (usually girls) tell me their hobbies includes shopping.

[E-Man]

I know you live in Texas, but I like the taco comparison with money spending.:oldrazz:
lol I have a thing about comparing dollars with tacos and other foods from various dollar menus. Why waste $40 on a date with a stuck up chick when I could've had 80 death encouraging tacos?:hehe:
My advice to any guy: let the girl chase you. Simple as that. The best relationships are often the ones that fall into your lap. Because in the end, the best girl you find is all by coincidence. Its best not searching at all and let the girl come to you. Don't act interested. Don't give signals or impose. Tease these girls. Sure what do I know? But the fact is most often the girls we dont like, like us and vice versa. So why not turn the tables? That's my motto.

This is money here. Women like to be chased, and if a guy that likes them doesn't chase them they focus more on that guy. It works pretty well with sex too. If a girl wants it and you tease her a bit, she'll practically become very aggressive. Maybe that's what ETM needs to do. For some reason this thread has become all about ETM. Maybe he just needs to turn the tables around and give the girls some bait. I'm sure there are some girls that think he's attractive. Everyone has their own "fans," even Whoopi Goldberg.

[enterthemadness]

I included shopping for the hell of it. One of my pet peeves when someone (usually girls) tell me their hobbies includes shopping.

Ah.

I just usually try to work out and play some basketball or shoot by myself.

[E-Man]

I included shopping for the hell of it. One of my pet peeves when someone (usually girls) tell me their hobbies includes shopping.

God I hate when that happens. I interview people for sales jobs, and I always ask my applicants what their hobbies are. About 90% of all the girls, these are 18-21 year olds, say that same **** about shopping.:cmad:

[omid17]

Guys need your help

how would you approach a girl you haven't seen for more than 8 years. i feel like i would be a complete stranger to her if i went up to her. What would you do?

[E-Man]

Guys need your help

how would you approach a girl you haven't seen for more than 8 years. i feel like i would be a complete stranger to her if i went up to her. What would you do?

Honestly just go with the flow. The more you think about it, the worst you come off. You haven't seen her for 8 years, so that's an easy conversation starter. Even if she doesn't remember you, just bring up what you two knew each other from, and things will go down hill as long as you have a smile on your face. If you bring a good energetic vibe to the convo, she'll be energetic too. You can't go wrong here. People always like catching up with old friends unless they did something that scarred them for awhile. Just walk up to her and say, "Hey I'm [your name] [her name]. Remember me from [where y'all know each other from]? I was the guy that [something funny or positive she might know you did back then]. How have you been these years? You still look great!" I promise you man, you can't go wrong unless you seem unconfident and stalkerish. You've got this!:yay:

[omid17]

Honestly just go with the flow. The more you think about it, the worst you come off. You haven't seen her for 8 years, so that's an easy conversation starter. Even if she doesn't remember you, just bring up what you two knew each other from, and things will go down hill as long as you have a smile on your face. If you bring a good energetic vibe to the convo, she'll be energetic too. You can't go wrong here. People always like catching up with old friends unless they did something that scarred them for awhile. Just walk up to her and say, "Hey I'm [your name] [her name]. Remember me from [where y'all know each other from]? I was the guy that [something funny or positive she might know you did back then]. How have you been these years? You still look great!" I promise you man, you can't go wrong unless you seem unconfident and stalkerish. You've got this!:yay::up: thx E-man

[E-Man]

No problem omid17. This thread keeps me sharpened since I'm single. lol

[omid17]

No problem omid17. This thread keeps me sharpened since I'm single. lollol. im 20 and it's not like im afraid to to go up to girls, my problem is that i really like this girl, and i just don't want screw anything up, i only got one chance

[Asteroid-Man]

Two words Omid jaan: Date rape. Haha just playin. Do it Persian style homie! Invite her over for some chai and nooshidanis. Then bring out the pashmak and once she likes that, you bring out the noon khameyi minus the khameh. When she asks where the khameh is you tell her to get on her knees so you can give it to her. :lmao:

(For translation purposes jaan=dear/chai=tea/nooshidani=sweats and other drinks/pashmak=Persian cotton candy/noon khameyi=cream puffs/khameh=cream)

[omid17]

Two words Omid jaan: Date rape. Haha just playin. Do it Persian style homie! Invite her over for some chai and nooshidanis. Then bring out the pashmak and once she likes that, you bring out the noon khameyi minus the khameh. When she asks where the khameh is you tell her to get on her knees so you can give it to her. :lmao:

(For translation purposes jaan=dear/chai=tea/nooshidani=sweats and other drinks/pashmak=Persian cotton candy/noon khameyi=cream puffs/khameh=cream)LMAO sup A-Man. i'll ask if she likes queereh bozorg

[Asteroid-Man]

Tell her your kiri has double the cream.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7908/kiricheese.jpg

[omid17]

lol that is some funny ****

[Asteroid-Man]

Hahaha. For those of you who are wondering what Kiri means, there is no single word for it in English. But it is described as an erected penis. Now just imagine if that package said 8 inches instead of 8 portions.

[omid17]

Hahaha. For those of you who are wondering what Kiri means, there is no single word for it in English. But it is described as an erected penis. Now just imagine if that package said 8 inches instead of 8 portions.ill make her call me amoo kiri

[Anita18]

My Asian female friends are some of the pickiest women I know, you jerks.
My best friend would attest to that. I was absolutely single for 6 years. Although guys I would go on dates with were giving up on me since I don't have chemistry with ANYONE right away. The guy I'm with now was the most patiently persistent and least annoying. We saw each other once a month for about 5 months before we were "official." I don't think he's er, complaining now though. :cwink:

However, you guys might classify him as whipped, he's already gone to bed and I'm still here trying to think up something witty to say. I should go to bed soon too so he doesn't miss out on cuddle time.

But judging by your generalization, they're also used to men who are intelligent. :whatever:
+10 points if he's a computer programmer! :hehe:

There are outliers yes, and background is important. But from my experience they are the easiest in the sense they do tend to tolerate more "game" miscues. Although some of them can be quite money driven. I have witnessed it with some of my not-so-good-with-other-girls buddies, land pretty decent asian girls.

Hopefully Anita is too busy for this entire week to read this, or she will bite my head off
TOO BAD FOR YOU! :hehe: And when have I bitten your head off?

And yeah, I'm personally more forgiving of awkwardness. I think I've mentioned before that I actually think some nervousness on guys is cute. :yay:

Still, good luck getting in our pants right off the bat. :oldrazz:

That girl is more than "a bit chunky" :csad:
Why the sad face? She's cute and she and Harry seem happy together.

She is not what I qualify as a cute asian girl. Someone like Jinglei Xu is cute.
I have no idea who that is. :o I had to look her up, haha. 35 and still hot, according to you. That's some good Asian genes right there. :up:

[Asteroid-Man]

ill make her call me amoo kiri
:lmao: Ahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! That's hilarious! How old are you Omid and how old is she?

[omid17]

:lmao: Ahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! That's hilarious! How old are you Omid and how old is she?im 20 and she's 21

[Asteroid-Man]

NICE! Is she Iranian as well? And what's the problem, why don't you just mash her? Ahaha

[omid17]

NICE! Is she Iranian as well? And what's the problem, why don't you just mash her? Ahahalol na she's half white,half asian. i haven't seen her for almost a decade, she used to be my neighbor, i just don't know how i would go up to her after all these years and get with her

[enterthemadness]

Just thinking here, but maybe I should remain a virgin for a while longer. But fix me in the process (no, not get fixed, although I should cause I doubt I ever be a good parent). I mean seriously...I need a hair cut. My hair has always been 'blah' and that's one thing I do not like about me. Although I have spiked it at times and it's look good to me.

Also, I need a hair cut cause I am gonna apply at Subway in Walmart (I may be shy and have bad speech, but subway seems easy...and my niece was bugging me about it. 'Like OMG LOL work there so I can get free subz lol:woot:' She didn't really say it like that, I just like picking on her.

[Erzengel]

It's always good to take care of yourself, keep in shape, nice hair cut, don't dress like a slob. But you do have a point on working on yourself first.

Also, don't try and force it with women, say you get a job at Subway and there's an cute girl who works there or at Walmart, don't ask her out on the second day of working.

[AndThePickles]

Guys need your help

how would you approach a girl you haven't seen for more than 8 years. i feel like i would be a complete stranger to her if i went up to her. What would you do?

lol na she's half white,half asian. i haven't seen her for almost a decade, she used to be my neighbor, i just don't know how i would go up to her after all these years and get with her

You have a REALLY good opportunity here for an easy way to ask her out. She will likely be flattered that you remember her, for one thing. Once you approach her to say "Hi, remember me? etc" you can ask her if she'd like to go somewhere to catch up and talk about childhood memories, and what's been going on in your lives since she moved.

[Erzengel]

Yeah something as simple as going out for coffee to catch up and take it from there.

[BillyZaned]

anyone got a recommendation on how to "get in the mood" after working two days doing road construction... worked 32 hours in the past two days... soooo freeeeaaaakkkkkiiiinnngggg tired... but of course the wife wants some "alone" time tonight with me... I just want to eat mac and cheese and watch Raw... but no... we have to have sex....

[Erzengel]

I wanna say I've never been that tired. :o

However, maybe have your wife wear something special or do something along the lines of a massage or have a nice relaxing bath together.

[Bad Supe's Girl]

I wanna say I've never been that tired. :o

However, maybe have your wife wear something special or do something along the lines of a massage or have a nice relaxing bath together.

oooooohh, that sounds wonderful and relaxing :heart: :)

[BillyZaned]

I wanna say I've never been that tired. :o

However, maybe have your wife wear something special or do something along the lines of a massage or have a nice relaxing bath together.

baths don't work that well with me... I'm to big... I'm 6'4" so theres not much room...

work 6-9 doing HARD manual labor for Saturday and Sunday... then go to your normal full time job monday for 6 - 3:30.. then do an oil change on your truck, then play with your two year old... yeah, too tired... just want to watch TV...

[Anubis]

You should play the lotto.

[Paradoxium]

My best friend would attest to that. I was absolutely single for 6 years. Although guys I would go on dates with were giving up on me since I don't have chemistry with ANYONE right away. The guy I'm with now was the most patiently persistent and least annoying. We saw each other once a month for about 5 months before we were "official." I don't think he's er, complaining now though. :cwink:

However, you guys might classify him as whipped, he's already gone to bed and I'm still here trying to think up something witty to say. I should go to bed soon too so he doesn't miss out on cuddle time.


+10 points if he's a computer programmer! :hehe:


TOO BAD FOR YOU! :hehe: And when have I bitten your head off?

And yeah, I'm personally more forgiving of awkwardness. I think I've mentioned before that I actually think some nervousness on guys is cute. :yay:

Still, good luck getting in our pants right off the bat. :oldrazz:


Why the sad face? She's cute and she and Harry seem happy together.


I have no idea who that is. :o I had to look her up, haha. 35 and still hot, according to you. That's some good Asian genes right there. :up:Asian Girl can be picky but more forgiving towards the less socially adept. The guys I mentioned are somewhat socially shy/awkward, but they were pretty decent guys. Western women in North America and UK, are less forgiving, and way more cutthroat when it comes to teH el' mating rituals. This is not a problem for me (cutthroat girls) because I can deal with. For some guys with a lot less polish it zaps their confidence. Although it's possible this perception that creates a confidence placebo.

And yea Jinglei Xu (or I guess it Xu Jinglei I guess for Chinese name accuracy) is my definition of cute and well balanced. Not ****ty looking, pretty hot, modest and a good personality to boot. :heart:

[Anita18]

Asian Girl can be picky but more forgiving towards the less socially adept. The guys I mentioned are somewhat socially shy/awkward, but they were pretty decent guys. Western women in North America and UK, are less forgiving, and way more cutthroat when it comes to teH el' mating rituals. This is not a problem for me (cutthroat girls) because I can deal with. For some guys with a lot less polish it zaps their confidence. Although it's possible this perception that creates a confidence placebo.
Huh, probably depends on the woman. I can't imagine any of my non-Asian friends being that judgmental over teh ol' mating rituals.

What do you mean by "pretty decent guys?" It's like we're judging people simply on bag-ability. If you mean "have a good heart," then yeah, why put the socially shy/awkward part above that? We have enough hot chicks with douchebags (http://www.hotchickswithdouchebags.com/). :oldrazz:

And that can be the best case scenario with guys with "game." I was reading last night on the gossip blog ONTD about the "Megan Wants A Millionaire" self-professed "womanizer" contestant who had killed his wife and stuffed her body into a suitcase. He even went as far as cutting off her fingers and ripping out her teeth so she couldn't be ID'd. (He didn't know that breast implants had serial numbers - they managed to identify her because of them.) And it made me even sadder to read the comments below the post, when quite a few members piped up about knowing someone who was physically abused or even killed by their husbands or boyfriends. :csad: It made me thankful for my socially-awkward but understanding bf.

[Erzengel]

Anita, is your bf Asian? :huh:

[Anita18]

Anita, is your bf Asian? :huh:
Nope, he's a "whitey," as my cousin would say. :oldrazz: But a computer programmer who even programs in his spare time, so I figure it's just as well. :funny: