Official 2007-08 NBA Thread

[Silver Knight]

No, not mad at all. I just find it pretty hilarious that you call yourself a true sports fan and have no real knowledge of the game. You just come here with your usual act of supporting every team in the NBA(with the exception of Dallas and San Antonio.)

You're the prime example of a bandwagoner who has a backup option should the team you're rooting for fails to win the big dance. Hence why no one takes you seriously at all.
Excuse me?

I know alot about sports. More then you in fact so if I were you I would keep my mouth shut.

[Ben Urich]

i want the ROX:woot:

Who doesn't?

[Jerry!]

No, not mad at all. I just find it pretty hilarious that you call yourself a true sports fan and have no real knowledge of the game. You just come here with your usual act of supporting every team in the NBA(with the exception of Dallas and San Antonio.)

You're the prime example of a bandwagoner who has a backup option should the team you're rooting for fails to win the big dance. Hence why no one takes you seriously at all.

I agree. And accounting for your past posts, I don't really take you seriously at all either.

[LastSunrise1981]

I agree. And accounting for your past posts, I don't really take you seriously at all either.

Don't really care if you take me seriously or not Jerry. I know my material when it comes to sports and while I'm guilty of making stupid claims in the past, no one can say that I never backed it up with intelligent reasoning even though it rubbed people the wrong way.

So while you don't take me seriously just remember that at the end of the day I'm not losing sleep over what you think of me.

[LastSunrise1981]

Excuse me?

I know alot about sports. More then you in fact so if I were you I would keep my mouth shut.

Supporting every team in every kind of sports doesn't mean you know anything about it. Hell I'll admit that I don't know a lick about hockey, soccer, baseball, or golf for that matter. But I do know my basketball and my football, so feel free to actually present and debate facts with me. But judging by your usual posts of supporting said teams you don't know anything about it.

Unlike you I've provided many posts that have displayed MY opinions or facts in an intelligent fashion. Until I see something like that from you I'll never take you seriously.

[LastSunrise1981]

In any event now that we got that out of the way. At this present moment I am looking at the playoff picture should they start today, and if they started today, Dallas would be facing the Spurs in the first round.

Bleh, like I said, we've struggled so much this season that it'd be a miracle if we beat the Spurs in a seven game series.

This is the way the playoffs look right now.

Eastern Conference

Boston(1A) vs. Atlanta(8)

Detroit(1H) vs. Toronto(7)

Orlando(3) vs. Washington(6)

(4)Cleveland(1A) vs. Philadelphia(5)

Western Conference

(1)New Orleans vs. Denver(8)

San Antonio(2) vs. Dallas(7)

Los Angeles(3) vs. Houston(6)

(4)Utah vs. Phoenix(5)

[Silver Knight]

Supporting every team in every kind of sports doesn't mean you know anything about it. Hell I'll admit that I don't know a lick about hockey, soccer, baseball, or golf for that matter. But I do know my basketball and my football, so feel free to actually present and debate facts with me. But judging by your usual posts of supporting said teams you don't know anything about it.

Unlike you I've provided many posts that have displayed MY opinions or facts in an intelligent fashion. Until I see something like that from you I'll never take you seriously.
Dude whatever..

[LastSunrise1981]

Out of the current scenario thus far I am looking forward to Phoenix/Utah the most. I've always been a fan of series where one team is the fast breaking high offense team and the other is the solid defensive rugged team.

After Golden State humiliated Dallas last year I was very happy to see Utah shut them down by slowing down their fast breaks, three point shooting, and penetration when it came to getting easy buckets.

[Jerry!]

You better hurry up and post some old school basketball videos dude.

[Immortalfire]

Supporting every team in every kind of sports doesn't mean you know anything about it. Hell I'll admit that I don't know a lick about hockey, soccer, baseball, or golf for that matter. But I do know my basketball and my football, so feel free to actually present and debate facts with me. But judging by your usual posts of supporting said teams you don't know anything about it.

Unlike you I've provided many posts that have displayed MY opinions or facts in an intelligent fashion. Until I see something like that from you I'll never take you seriously.

Dude whatever..

Winner: LastSunrise

[Nightmare]

In any event now that we got that out of the way. At this present moment I am looking at the playoff picture should they start today, and if they started today, Dallas would be facing the Spurs in the first round.

Bleh, like I said, we've struggled so much this season that it'd be a miracle if we beat the Spurs in a seven game series.

This is the way the playoffs look right now.

Eastern Conference

Boston(1A) vs. Atlanta(8)

Detroit(1H) vs. Toronto(7)

Orlando(3) vs. Washington(6)

(4)Cleveland(1A) vs. Philadelphia(5)

Western Conference

(1)New Orleans vs. Denver(8)

San Antonio(2) vs. Dallas(7)

Los Angeles(3) vs. Houston(6)

(4)Utah vs. Phoenix(5)

NO vs Spurs
LA vs PHX

WCF: LA vs Spurs

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Celtics win by 23 over the bobcats without any of the big three playing. OUCH!

[DarthRekal]

Who doesn't?


:woot:

[Ben Urich]

Magic take care of business at the Q despite Dwight Howard going 1-8 for 4 points.
Pat Garrity took -- and made -- more shots than Dwight did. :dry:

He scored 13 points. :dry:

Air Pat for the win. :up::up::up:

[Ben Urich]

Carmelo, Kleiza, and Iverson combine for 88 points and the Nuggets still lose.

To the Kings.

At home.

:dry:

[LastSunrise1981]

You better hurry up and post some old school basketball videos dude.

Don't need to. It's something that I did before and do on certain instances. The fact that I do post said videos and provide commentaries on them prove that I do know my basketball. I've followed the sport since I was 10 years old and due to my father being an All-American basketball player from Canton McKinnely High School I think I know enough basketball to debate with fellow posters.

Whether I post old school videos or not is not the point. The point is I do know basketball and it's something I love. You already formed your opinion about me and that's fine. The day I care about what an internet fanboy(such as yourself) thinks of me is the day that hell freezes over.

[Jerry!]

What am I a fanboy of exactly?

[LastSunrise1981]

NO vs Spurs
LA vs PHX

WCF: LA vs Spurs

You think Los Angeles will get that far? Truthfully I see it being Phoenix/San Antonio for the WCF. While I am a Dallas fan, I am also a realist and with our struggles it'll be a miracle to make it by an elite team such as the Spurs in a seven game series format.

For the actual championship though? I see it possibly being either Phoenix vs. Boston, San Antonio vs. Boston, or Phoenix vs. Detroit. However this is the NBA and we know that anything can happen with this sport.

[LastSunrise1981]

What am I a fanboy of exactly?

Dude, you're on a comic book message board. We're all fanboys here. Only difference is that some are more informed than others and you don't fall in that category. You're very confrontational and try to put yourself off as knowing certain fields that call for debating.

You constantly proved your misinformation when the Benoit tragedy was debated, whenever basketball or football is debated you show your misinformed nature in those as well. I am not saying that I am the know it all when it comes to wrestling, politics, movies, comics, and other ventures that tend to be debated in an endless circle. But I know my stuff and I don't claim to know everything unlike you.

So as I said, feel free to think what you want of me, I can't change your mind and I am not going to.

[Jerry!]

Oh for ****'s sake, you're bringing up Benoit AGAIN? The guy was a murderer, case closed. There's nothing to be misinformed about in that. And if I am so misinformed, what have I been so wrong on that makes you keep bringing that up? I don't really make predictions on anything, but I could see the Bulls season coming from before it started and it turned out even worse than I thought. Meanwhile you had them as title contenders. Hey, if the truth of the situation is negative, then that's how it's going to sound if I post about it. Apparently in the Bulls case I knew what I was talking about.

Football, again, I'm not sure what you're talking about, I don't really make too many brash predictions or assumptions, the last I remember being that I posted the Patriots had the best chance to possibly go undefeated before the season started.

[omid17]

i hate LBJ and im glad his team has gotten worse, after the trade:yay:

[omid17]

wow Dwight only scored 4 points with 12 rebounds and still beat the Cavs at home lol

[Bond]

GO MAVS!

Can't believe they beat the Suns IN PHOENIX.

[Mister J]

Me neither.

[LastSunrise1981]

GO MAVS!

Can't believe they beat the Suns IN PHOENIX.

I was at the mall and saw a group of people watching it in the breakroom at GameStop. From the looks of things Dallas came out to play from the start and I am happy we picked up the much needed win. There is still a lot of work to do with this team though.

It would've been nice if we could've picked up a win against LA as well. However, I did say that if we picked up 2 victories out of the three against the elite teams I'll be content. Can you believe this is the first team Dallas has beaten with an over .500 record? I remember the statistic showing that ever since Kidd was acquired by Dallas we were winless against the elite teams.

[Lobo]

http://www.all2un1.com/hgmap/SigsAvatars/PatrickEwingJR1.gif

Not sure if NY has a second round pick this year, but if they do i wouldn't mind picking him up

[Bond]

I was at the mall and saw a group of people watching it in the breakroom at GameStop. From the looks of things Dallas came out to play from the start and I am happy we picked up the much needed win. There is still a lot of work to do with this team though.

It would've been nice if we could've picked up a win against LA as well. However, I did say that if we picked up 2 victories out of the three against the elite teams I'll be content. Can you believe this is the first team Dallas has beaten with an over .500 record? I remember the statistic showing that ever since Kidd was acquired by Dallas we were winless against the elite teams.
Hehe, wrong-o. They beat the Warriors right before they lost to the Lakers, which I can't believe they lost that one.

And wtf is up with the Knicks? They just beat Orlando.

[LastSunrise1981]

Hehe, wrong-o. They beat the Warriors right before they lost to the Lakers, which I can't believe they lost that one.

And wtf is up with the Knicks? They just beat Orlando.

Really? I don't know where I got that piece of information from then. Perhaps I misunderstood Hubie Brown when he said ".500" team. Maybe he meant a team that's better than .500?

In any event I am glad we picked up the win against a very tough Phoenix team on their home court. As for your question about the Knicks? Every weaker team tends to beat a much stronger team somewhere down the line. It's not like New York has anything to play for anyways, right?

[Bond]

Really? I don't know where I got that piece of information from then. Perhaps I misunderstood Hubie Brown when he said ".500" team. Maybe he meant a team that's better than .500?
Yea, teams that are better than .500. The Warriors are over .500.

[Mister J]

2008 Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame Induction Class (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=3333987)


Adrian Dantley
Bill Davidson
Patrick Ewing
Pat Riley
Cathy Rush
Hakeem Olajuwon
Dick Vitale

'Bout time Dantley got in. Now only if they'd smarten up and induct Dennis Johnson.

[Immortalfire]

Is it just me, or does Dick Vitale annoy the hell out of anyone else?

[DBella]

Being a fan of a losing team, I hardly post in this thread but since the Sonics managed to get a W last night against the Nuggets, after 2 OT, I just want to say... W00t!!!
Unfortunately, I have to keep reminding myself that I'll soon lose my team. Freakin' Oklahoma City bandits!

[LastSunrise1981]

2008 Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame Induction Class (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=3333987)


Adrian Dantley
Bill Davidson
Patrick Ewing
Pat Riley
Cathy Rush
Hakeem Olajuwon
Dick Vitale

'Bout time Dantley got in. Now only if they'd smarten up and induct Dennis Johnson.

Glad to see Dantley, Ewing, Riley, and Olajuwon inducted into the Hall of Fame.

Hopefully Stockton and Reggie Miller will get inducted sometime soon.

[Ben Urich]

They should be eligible soon. What is it, 5 years after retiring? 7?

[L.A.]

2007-08 Power Rankings: Week 23
RANK (LAST WK) TEAM REC. COMMENT
1 (1) Celtics 61-15 Another perk of life in the Least: Boston can rest its starters now, unlike last season's 67-win Mavs, because the Celts face zero risk of getting upset in Round 1. They'll have the Atlanta series to relocate their rhythm.
2 (2) Hornets 54-22 So much for the idea that Sunday's appearance on the ABC stage would expose the Hornets' lack of big-game experience. Next question: Anyone else looking forward to Friday's MVP showdown between Kobe and CP3?
3 (3) Pistons 55-21 Maybe no Piston is an obvious choice for All-NBA recognition, but Detroit's ensemble cast will undoubtedly prefer this distinction: They're just the sixth team since the NBA-ABA merger in '76-77 to win four straight division titles.
4 (6) Lakers 53-24 Pau's return pretty much locks up a top-three seed. Yet you have to ask -- in spite of that impressive rally against Dallas -- if the Lakers can be true title contenders with Bynum (and Ariza) still out and Fisher playing hurt.
5 (5) Spurs 53-24 They went a solid 12-6 in March in what Pop calls "the toughest month we've ever had." Yet we figure that the Spurs, deep down, won't relish seeing their old pals from Dallas in Round 1 if the current pairings hold.
6 (8) Jazz 51-26 This won't help much if Utah doesn't even have home-court advantage in Round 1. But give the road-loathing Jazz this: They have 26 wins at home by 10 points or more. Not even Boston, with 24 such wins, can match that.
7 (4) Suns 51-26 Blow No. 1 of the week: The Suns now know that it's unlikely they'll have home-court advantage for even one round in the playoffs. Blow No. 2: They know that the draft pick Atlanta is sending this June won't be in the lottery.
8 (7) Rockets 52-25 How's that for respect? Houston has won 16 of 20 road games and realistically can't finish with worse than the No. 6 seed ... and still everyone out West wishes it could end up drawing the Rockets in Round 1.
9 (15) Mavericks 48-29 Interesting theory: Dallas will be far more dangerous in the playoffs as a lower seed trying to emulate last spring's pressure-free Warriors, against the Hornets or Lakers or Spurs, than it was as a 67-win title favorite.
10 (10) Warriors 46-31 It was starting to look as though the Dubs would need something resembling last April's 8-1 finish to repeat as the West's No. 8 seed. But maybe not now with those seemingly golden Nuggets intent on imploding.
11 (12) 76ers 39-38 ESPN Research informs the committee (of one) that only two teams in the last 20 years have risen from 12 games under .500 to a record over .500 in the same season: the 2004-05 Nets and, yes, these plucky Sixers.
12 (11) Magic 48-29 All the Magic need, in spite of a bad L to the Knicks, is a 2-3 finish to seal their first 50-win season since Shaq left. The real suspense, though, is seeing who they get in the first round: Washington, Philly or Toronto.
13 (9) Nuggets 46-31 Unforgivable L's to short-handed Sac-Town and inexperienced Seattle didn't just pile huge pressure on Furious George and endanger Denver's season. That's right: Iverson's third-team slot on my All-NBA ballot is now D-Will's.
14 (17) Hawks 36-41 The team with the league's longest playoff drought has a three-game lead over No. 9 Indiana with both teams down to their final five games. We're going to go out on a limb and say not even the Hawks could blow this now.
15 (13) Wizards 40-37 At least there's only one way to go for the Wiz after Gil's long-awaited comeback game ended in a one-point loss to a team with nothing to play for (Milwaukee) and stuck their vet leader (Jamison) with a shoulder injury.
16 (14) Cavaliers 42-35 It was only a matter of time before LeBron's back began to feel the strain of carrying this crew. Right? But I still say Boston won't be thrilled to see the slumping LeBrons in Round 2 ... as long as Cleveland gets there.
17 (19) Kings 36-41 Artest branded the season "a failure" because the Kings didn't make the playoffs. Everyone else is saying that the Kings actually have more to work with for the future than anyone on the outside saw back in October.
18 (16) Raptors 38-39 Getting Bosh back hasn't quite solved Toronto's issues. The Raps are capable of giving Orlando trouble in Round 1 but they could wind up playing Detroit instead thanks to a 4-7 mark since Bosh's return ... 0-3 in April.
19 (18) Trail Blazers 38-39 The health of Oden, Roy and Aldridge is really all that matters now, but it remains one of the season's more notable surprises that Portland went from Dec. 16 through April 6 before finally slipping back below .500.
20 (20) Pacers 33-44 Larry Legend is finally in sole charge of the Pacers. Which tells me that Jermaine O'Neal -- who quietly made his return from injury one day before Arenas, Brand, Gasol and Nowitzki -- will at last be traded this offseason.
21 (21) Nets 32-45 Turns out Jersey won't make the playoffs and Dallas will. But Devin Harris has still made a fine start as a Net, with more double-digit assist games since March 15 (three) than he had in three-plus seasons as a Mav (two).
22 (23) Bulls 30-46 Anyone out there remember -- back before all the "Ko-be, Ko-be, Ko-be" chants and the coaching change and the inability to trade for a big name -- when the Bulls were a trendy pick to win the East? Us, neither.
23 (22) Bobcats 29-48 The Bobcats' 9-7 record in March was their most successful month ever. The problem? That was only the third most successful March in the state thanks to (A) UNC and (B) what Dell Curry's son did with Davidson.
24 (25) Grizzlies 21-56 Rudy Gay is a leading candidate for the NBA's most improved player award and the Grizz, in general, are still playing hard. So we repeat the question: Iavaroni was supposed to do more with this roster as a rookie coach?
25 (26) Clippers 23-54 We're still chuckling about this one from Sam I Am: "When I found out that Elton tore his Achilles ... I knew what this season would be. We got off to a 4-0 start and everyone went gung ho. I was like ho, ho, hold up."
26 (24) Timberwolves 19-57 Of the four teams still at risk to join Miami in the 60-loss club, Minnesota seemed the most likely escape candidate after its recent 7-8 stretch. Losing at home to Memphis, though, likely ended that post-KG dream.
27 (28) SuperSonics 18-59 Nobody rings up 168 on Seattle, as Denver did March 16, without paying the consequences. And hopefully nobody still doubts Durant's status as an ROY lock after watching what he did to the Nuggets' playoff hopes.
28 (29) Knicks 21-56 How much work is confronting front-office savior Donnie Walsh? Before the Knicks' wholly unexpected victory Sunday over Orlando, they were 2-0 since March 1 against Miami ... and 0-16 against the rest of the league.
29 (27) Bucks 26-50 They can't lose more than 56 games, but you can safely add the Bucks to the M-Stands-For-Misery trio of Memphis, Minnesota and Miami. It's a quartet now that Yi's rookie season has been ended early by a knee injury.
30 (30) Heat 13-64 One more Heat loss or Seattle win secures a 46.5 percent chance that Miami lands one of the top two picks in the draft. Of course, that leaves Riles with a 53.5 percent chance his team winds up with No. 3 or lower.

[Bond]

Being a fan of a losing team, I hardly post in this thread but since the Sonics managed to get a W last night against the Nuggets, after 2 OT, I just want to say... W00t!!!
Unfortunately, I have to keep reminding myself that I'll soon lose my team. Freakin' Oklahoma City bandits!
Wait... is that gonna be their name?

Add I am sooo happy Seattle won.

[batman44]

2007-08 Power Rankings: Week 23
RANK (LAST WK) TEAM REC. COMMENT
1 (1) Celtics 61-15 Another perk of life in the Least: Boston can rest its starters now, unlike last season's 67-win Mavs, because the Celts face zero risk of getting upset in Round 1. They'll have the Atlanta series to relocate their rhythm.
2 (2) Hornets 54-22 So much for the idea that Sunday's appearance on the ABC stage would expose the Hornets' lack of big-game experience. Next question: Anyone else looking forward to Friday's MVP showdown between Kobe and CP3?
3 (3) Pistons 55-21 Maybe no Piston is an obvious choice for All-NBA recognition, but Detroit's ensemble cast will undoubtedly prefer this distinction: They're just the sixth team since the NBA-ABA merger in '76-77 to win four straight division titles.
4 (6) Lakers 53-24 Pau's return pretty much locks up a top-three seed. Yet you have to ask -- in spite of that impressive rally against Dallas -- if the Lakers can be true title contenders with Bynum (and Ariza) still out and Fisher playing hurt.
5 (5) Spurs 53-24 They went a solid 12-6 in March in what Pop calls "the toughest month we've ever had." Yet we figure that the Spurs, deep down, won't relish seeing their old pals from Dallas in Round 1 if the current pairings hold.
6 (8) Jazz 51-26 This won't help much if Utah doesn't even have home-court advantage in Round 1. But give the road-loathing Jazz this: They have 26 wins at home by 10 points or more. Not even Boston, with 24 such wins, can match that.
7 (4) Suns 51-26 Blow No. 1 of the week: The Suns now know that it's unlikely they'll have home-court advantage for even one round in the playoffs. Blow No. 2: They know that the draft pick Atlanta is sending this June won't be in the lottery.
8 (7) Rockets 52-25 How's that for respect? Houston has won 16 of 20 road games and realistically can't finish with worse than the No. 6 seed ... and still everyone out West wishes it could end up drawing the Rockets in Round 1.
9 (15) Mavericks 48-29 Interesting theory: Dallas will be far more dangerous in the playoffs as a lower seed trying to emulate last spring's pressure-free Warriors, against the Hornets or Lakers or Spurs, than it was as a 67-win title favorite.
10 (10) Warriors 46-31 It was starting to look as though the Dubs would need something resembling last April's 8-1 finish to repeat as the West's No. 8 seed. But maybe not now with those seemingly golden Nuggets intent on imploding.
11 (12) 76ers 39-38 ESPN Research informs the committee (of one) that only two teams in the last 20 years have risen from 12 games under .500 to a record over .500 in the same season: the 2004-05 Nets and, yes, these plucky Sixers.
12 (11) Magic 48-29 All the Magic need, in spite of a bad L to the Knicks, is a 2-3 finish to seal their first 50-win season since Shaq left. The real suspense, though, is seeing who they get in the first round: Washington, Philly or Toronto.
13 (9) Nuggets 46-31 Unforgivable L's to short-handed Sac-Town and inexperienced Seattle didn't just pile huge pressure on Furious George and endanger Denver's season. That's right: Iverson's third-team slot on my All-NBA ballot is now D-Will's.
14 (17) Hawks 36-41 The team with the league's longest playoff drought has a three-game lead over No. 9 Indiana with both teams down to their final five games. We're going to go out on a limb and say not even the Hawks could blow this now.
15 (13) Wizards 40-37 At least there's only one way to go for the Wiz after Gil's long-awaited comeback game ended in a one-point loss to a team with nothing to play for (Milwaukee) and stuck their vet leader (Jamison) with a shoulder injury.
16 (14) Cavaliers 42-35 It was only a matter of time before LeBron's back began to feel the strain of carrying this crew. Right? But I still say Boston won't be thrilled to see the slumping LeBrons in Round 2 ... as long as Cleveland gets there.
17 (19) Kings 36-41 Artest branded the season "a failure" because the Kings didn't make the playoffs. Everyone else is saying that the Kings actually have more to work with for the future than anyone on the outside saw back in October.
18 (16) Raptors 38-39 Getting Bosh back hasn't quite solved Toronto's issues. The Raps are capable of giving Orlando trouble in Round 1 but they could wind up playing Detroit instead thanks to a 4-7 mark since Bosh's return ... 0-3 in April.
19 (18) Trail Blazers 38-39 The health of Oden, Roy and Aldridge is really all that matters now, but it remains one of the season's more notable surprises that Portland went from Dec. 16 through April 6 before finally slipping back below .500.
20 (20) Pacers 33-44 Larry Legend is finally in sole charge of the Pacers. Which tells me that Jermaine O'Neal -- who quietly made his return from injury one day before Arenas, Brand, Gasol and Nowitzki -- will at last be traded this offseason.
21 (21) Nets 32-45 Turns out Jersey won't make the playoffs and Dallas will. But Devin Harris has still made a fine start as a Net, with more double-digit assist games since March 15 (three) than he had in three-plus seasons as a Mav (two).
22 (23) Bulls 30-46 Anyone out there remember -- back before all the "Ko-be, Ko-be, Ko-be" chants and the coaching change and the inability to trade for a big name -- when the Bulls were a trendy pick to win the East? Us, neither.
23 (22) Bobcats 29-48 The Bobcats' 9-7 record in March was their most successful month ever. The problem? That was only the third most successful March in the state thanks to (A) UNC and (B) what Dell Curry's son did with Davidson.
24 (25) Grizzlies 21-56 Rudy Gay is a leading candidate for the NBA's most improved player award and the Grizz, in general, are still playing hard. So we repeat the question: Iavaroni was supposed to do more with this roster as a rookie coach?
25 (26) Clippers 23-54 We're still chuckling about this one from Sam I Am: "When I found out that Elton tore his Achilles ... I knew what this season would be. We got off to a 4-0 start and everyone went gung ho. I was like ho, ho, hold up."
26 (24) Timberwolves 19-57 Of the four teams still at risk to join Miami in the 60-loss club, Minnesota seemed the most likely escape candidate after its recent 7-8 stretch. Losing at home to Memphis, though, likely ended that post-KG dream.
27 (28) SuperSonics 18-59 Nobody rings up 168 on Seattle, as Denver did March 16, without paying the consequences. And hopefully nobody still doubts Durant's status as an ROY lock after watching what he did to the Nuggets' playoff hopes.
28 (29) Knicks 21-56 How much work is confronting front-office savior Donnie Walsh? Before the Knicks' wholly unexpected victory Sunday over Orlando, they were 2-0 since March 1 against Miami ... and 0-16 against the rest of the league.
29 (27) Bucks 26-50 They can't lose more than 56 games, but you can safely add the Bucks to the M-Stands-For-Misery trio of Memphis, Minnesota and Miami. It's a quartet now that Yi's rookie season has been ended early by a knee injury.
30 (30) Heat 13-64 One more Heat loss or Seattle win secures a 46.5 percent chance that Miami lands one of the top two picks in the draft. Of course, that leaves Riles with a 53.5 percent chance his team winds up with No. 3 or lower.

Interesting.

[Bond]

L.A., do you write all that yourself? Because it's very well done. I always assumed you got it from somewhere though.

[DBella]

2007-08 Power Rankings: Week 23
RANK (LAST WK) TEAM REC. COMMENT
1 (1) Celtics 61-15 Another perk of life in the Least: Boston can rest its starters now, unlike last season's 67-win Mavs, because the Celts face zero risk of getting upset in Round 1. They'll have the Atlanta series to relocate their rhythm.
2 (2) Hornets 54-22 So much for the idea that Sunday's appearance on the ABC stage would expose the Hornets' lack of big-game experience. Next question: Anyone else looking forward to Friday's MVP showdown between Kobe and CP3?
3 (3) Pistons 55-21 Maybe no Piston is an obvious choice for All-NBA recognition, but Detroit's ensemble cast will undoubtedly prefer this distinction: They're just the sixth team since the NBA-ABA merger in '76-77 to win four straight division titles.
4 (6) Lakers 53-24 Pau's return pretty much locks up a top-three seed. Yet you have to ask -- in spite of that impressive rally against Dallas -- if the Lakers can be true title contenders with Bynum (and Ariza) still out and Fisher playing hurt.
5 (5) Spurs 53-24 They went a solid 12-6 in March in what Pop calls "the toughest month we've ever had." Yet we figure that the Spurs, deep down, won't relish seeing their old pals from Dallas in Round 1 if the current pairings hold.
6 (8) Jazz 51-26 This won't help much if Utah doesn't even have home-court advantage in Round 1. But give the road-loathing Jazz this: They have 26 wins at home by 10 points or more. Not even Boston, with 24 such wins, can match that.
7 (4) Suns 51-26 Blow No. 1 of the week: The Suns now know that it's unlikely they'll have home-court advantage for even one round in the playoffs. Blow No. 2: They know that the draft pick Atlanta is sending this June won't be in the lottery.
8 (7) Rockets 52-25 How's that for respect? Houston has won 16 of 20 road games and realistically can't finish with worse than the No. 6 seed ... and still everyone out West wishes it could end up drawing the Rockets in Round 1.
9 (15) Mavericks 48-29 Interesting theory: Dallas will be far more dangerous in the playoffs as a lower seed trying to emulate last spring's pressure-free Warriors, against the Hornets or Lakers or Spurs, than it was as a 67-win title favorite.
10 (10) Warriors 46-31 It was starting to look as though the Dubs would need something resembling last April's 8-1 finish to repeat as the West's No. 8 seed. But maybe not now with those seemingly golden Nuggets intent on imploding.
11 (12) 76ers 39-38 ESPN Research informs the committee (of one) that only two teams in the last 20 years have risen from 12 games under .500 to a record over .500 in the same season: the 2004-05 Nets and, yes, these plucky Sixers.
12 (11) Magic 48-29 All the Magic need, in spite of a bad L to the Knicks, is a 2-3 finish to seal their first 50-win season since Shaq left. The real suspense, though, is seeing who they get in the first round: Washington, Philly or Toronto.
13 (9) Nuggets 46-31 Unforgivable L's to short-handed Sac-Town and inexperienced Seattle didn't just pile huge pressure on Furious George and endanger Denver's season. That's right: Iverson's third-team slot on my All-NBA ballot is now D-Will's.
14 (17) Hawks 36-41 The team with the league's longest playoff drought has a three-game lead over No. 9 Indiana with both teams down to their final five games. We're going to go out on a limb and say not even the Hawks could blow this now.
15 (13) Wizards 40-37 At least there's only one way to go for the Wiz after Gil's long-awaited comeback game ended in a one-point loss to a team with nothing to play for (Milwaukee) and stuck their vet leader (Jamison) with a shoulder injury.
16 (14) Cavaliers 42-35 It was only a matter of time before LeBron's back began to feel the strain of carrying this crew. Right? But I still say Boston won't be thrilled to see the slumping LeBrons in Round 2 ... as long as Cleveland gets there.
17 (19) Kings 36-41 Artest branded the season "a failure" because the Kings didn't make the playoffs. Everyone else is saying that the Kings actually have more to work with for the future than anyone on the outside saw back in October.
18 (16) Raptors 38-39 Getting Bosh back hasn't quite solved Toronto's issues. The Raps are capable of giving Orlando trouble in Round 1 but they could wind up playing Detroit instead thanks to a 4-7 mark since Bosh's return ... 0-3 in April.
19 (18) Trail Blazers 38-39 The health of Oden, Roy and Aldridge is really all that matters now, but it remains one of the season's more notable surprises that Portland went from Dec. 16 through April 6 before finally slipping back below .500.
20 (20) Pacers 33-44 Larry Legend is finally in sole charge of the Pacers. Which tells me that Jermaine O'Neal -- who quietly made his return from injury one day before Arenas, Brand, Gasol and Nowitzki -- will at last be traded this offseason.
21 (21) Nets 32-45 Turns out Jersey won't make the playoffs and Dallas will. But Devin Harris has still made a fine start as a Net, with more double-digit assist games since March 15 (three) than he had in three-plus seasons as a Mav (two).
22 (23) Bulls 30-46 Anyone out there remember -- back before all the "Ko-be, Ko-be, Ko-be" chants and the coaching change and the inability to trade for a big name -- when the Bulls were a trendy pick to win the East? Us, neither.
23 (22) Bobcats 29-48 The Bobcats' 9-7 record in March was their most successful month ever. The problem? That was only the third most successful March in the state thanks to (A) UNC and (B) what Dell Curry's son did with Davidson.
24 (25) Grizzlies 21-56 Rudy Gay is a leading candidate for the NBA's most improved player award and the Grizz, in general, are still playing hard. So we repeat the question: Iavaroni was supposed to do more with this roster as a rookie coach?
25 (26) Clippers 23-54 We're still chuckling about this one from Sam I Am: "When I found out that Elton tore his Achilles ... I knew what this season would be. We got off to a 4-0 start and everyone went gung ho. I was like ho, ho, hold up."
26 (24) Timberwolves 19-57 Of the four teams still at risk to join Miami in the 60-loss club, Minnesota seemed the most likely escape candidate after its recent 7-8 stretch. Losing at home to Memphis, though, likely ended that post-KG dream.
27 (28) SuperSonics 18-59 Nobody rings up 168 on Seattle, as Denver did March 16, without paying the consequences. And hopefully nobody still doubts Durant's status as an ROY lock after watching what he did to the Nuggets' playoff hopes.
28 (29) Knicks 21-56 How much work is confronting front-office savior Donnie Walsh? Before the Knicks' wholly unexpected victory Sunday over Orlando, they were 2-0 since March 1 against Miami ... and 0-16 against the rest of the league.
29 (27) Bucks 26-50 They can't lose more than 56 games, but you can safely add the Bucks to the M-Stands-For-Misery trio of Memphis, Minnesota and Miami. It's a quartet now that Yi's rookie season has been ended early by a knee injury.
30 (30) Heat 13-64 One more Heat loss or Seattle win secures a 46.5 percent chance that Miami lands one of the top two picks in the draft. Of course, that leaves Riles with a 53.5 percent chance his team winds up with No. 3 or lower.
Wow... very impressive, L.A.! Did you gather those stats/info and type them all our for our benefit? Thank you. And I am very happy to see that my Sonics isn't in last place. We're not the worst team!!
Wait... is that gonna be their name?

Add I am sooo happy Seattle won.
No, they don't deserve such a cool name, those thieves!

Sonics fan? Or are you just glad they beat the Nuggets?

[Bond]

Wow... very impressive, L.A.! Did you gather those stats/info and type them all our for our benefit? Thank you. And I am very happy to see that my Sonics isn't in last place. We're not the worst team!!

No, they don't deserve such a cool name, those thieves!

Sonics fan? Or are you just glad they beat the Nuggets?
I'm just glad they beat the Nuggets, but I'll no doubt be a fan if they move to OKC. :up:

[DBella]

I'm just glad they beat the Nuggets, but I'll no doubt be a fan if they move to OKC. :up:
Why would you be a fan if they move to OKC?
I think the move is inevitable. The stinkin' owner doesn't want to sell the team to those interested in keeping the team in Seattle. :cmad: :csad:

[Bond]

Why would you be a fan if they move to OKC?
I think the move is inevitable. The stinkin' owner doesn't want to sell the team to those interested in keeping the team in Seattle. :cmad: :csad:
Because I've been to OKC numerous times and I really really like it there. It would just be a great place for an NBA Basketball team.

[Ben Urich]

Those are Marc Stein's power rankings from ESPN.com.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/powerranking

[Silver Knight]

Is it just me, or does Dick Vitale annoy the hell out of anyone else?
Im with you on this.

[Bond]

Those are Marc Stein's power rankings from ESPN.com.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/powerranking
Ohhh, gotcha. He's right, though. IMO, the Mavs seem much more dangerous as the underdog.

[L.A.]

L.A., do you write all that yourself? Because it's very well done. I always assumed you got it from somewhere though.
hahahahahaha you guys dont post here that often huh???!!!:woot:

[L.A.]

Wow... very impressive, L.A.! Did you gather those stats/info and type them all our for our benefit? Thank you.
hahahahahahahaha:grin:

[Jerry!]

Wow...

[LastSunrise1981]

Ohhh, gotcha. He's right, though. IMO, the Mavs seem much more dangerous as the underdog.

I think the problem with that theory is that teams have seen the Mavs overcome the odds before. Remember when they beat the Jazz in the First Round of the playoffs? No one saw that coming and neither did I, however, I still believed in them hoping that victory would happen and it did.

I just feel that Dallas has struggled so much this season, and while they've won some important games, they also have lost some important games that could've put them a bit higher in the standings too.

[Immortalfire]

You guys need to relax from all this "who's in?" stress and worry.

Here, watch this and chill


ZfRwtkC4m18

[LastSunrise1981]

Great win by Dallas today over the Sonics. Of course it's the Sonics so it's not much of a challenge for them, however, as a fan we'll take any win we can get in order to keep from falling out of the playoffs.

Next up is Utah which will be tough game.

[Bond]

Mavs played horrendous in the first 3 quarters.

They should be called the "4th Quarter Mavs."

[batman44]

Mavs played horrendous in the first 3 quarters.

They should be called the "4th Quarter Mavs."

I dunno, they would have to finish strong consistently against good teams first.

[Ghostvirus]

Well this Bulls are now officially out of the playoff race, so...yeah. That sucks.:csad:

Is it October yet?:cmad:

[Immortalfire]

Great win by Dallas today over the Sonics. Of course it's the Sonics so it's not much of a challenge for them, however, as a fan we'll take any win we can get in order to keep from falling out of the playoffs.

Next up is Utah which will be tough game.

Did I see right, that with that loss, the Sonics have a new team record for losses in a season?

[Mister J]

Well this Bulls are now officially out of the playoff race, so...yeah. That sucks.:csad:

Is it October yet?:cmad:
And it was a loss from the new look D-League Heat that did it. :dry:

Dammit! In anticipation of clinching the worst record in the league, I had the champagne on ice and this happens. Now, I have to go out and buy another bottle. :cmad:

...'cause I drank the other one out of a need for solace. :up:

[Raiden]

I can't believe Lakers lost to Blazers again, for the sixth straight time at Portland. They need to find a good motivational speaker to make them believe that they can beat Blazers at their arena. :mad:

[Silver Knight]

Well this Bulls are now officially out of the playoff race, so...yeah. That sucks.:csad:

Is it October yet?:cmad:Its been a bad season, has it not?

[JaD]

Celtics 62-15 :bow:

[omid17]

i got a tight Laker hat for $40, and got the Zoom Kobe III for $130 :)

[Ghostvirus]

Its been a bad season, has it not?

No Silver Knight. It has been a fan-f**king-tastic season. I couldn't be happier about the outcome!:cmad:

& to top it all off Fran isn't here to do the tourney. Nor is he here to talk smack during the playoffs.:down: F**k 2008. F**k it right its a**!:cmad:

[NewYorkSpider]

I'll do the playoff pool if you want. I'm doing the NHL one.

[L.A.]

I'll do the playoff pool if you want. I'm doing the NHL one.
Ahhh the NBA pool. I remember I won last year nba playoff pool!!! :cool:

[CrypticOne]

How exactly does the playoff pool work?

[NewYorkSpider]

How exactly does the playoff pool work?

I'm doing one in the NHL thread if you want to look. All you do is pick who wins the games, who wins the series and how many games it takes them.

[NewYorkSpider]

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[L.A.]

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Sign me up but shouldnt current NBA Pool Champions like myself should get a a bonus 5pts for being so brillaint?! :confused: :cool: :up:

[NewYorkSpider]

Sign me up but shouldnt current NBA Pool Champions like myself should get a a bonus 5pts for being so brillaint?! :confused: :cool: :up:

Only if the Clippers make the playoffs.:oldrazz:

[omid17]

who should be MVP http://www.yahoo.com/s/854003

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

HUGE game tomorrow night. Warriors vs. Nuggets. This is it. I think whoever loses this game is out of the playoffs. Man two years in a row for the Warriors and it's almost coming down to the last game of the season.

[JaD]

HUGE game tomorrow night. Warriors vs. Nuggets. This is it. I think whoever loses this game is out of the playoffs. Man two years in a row for the Warriors and it's almost coming down to the last game of the season.

Yeah that will be the biggest game for them, I wish I could go see the game if it's at Oracle arena, haven't gone to a Warrior game in a while, quite exciting.

[Nightmare]

Should be a good game. May the best team win. Its really gonna be like a 1 game playoffs. Should be damn good.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Yeah that will be the biggest game for them, I wish I could go see the game if it's at Oracle arena, haven't gone to a Warrior game in a while, quite exciting.

Yeah I haven't been since game 4 last year at home vs. Dallas :up: :D

[Ghostvirus]

Sign me up for Da pool.:up:

[JaD]

Yeah I haven't been since game 4 last year at home vs. Dallas :up: :D

Man, I am so jealous, I've been to some Warrior games before and it's always so loud and exciting, but watching the playoffs last year and how packed it was, I wish I could've been there cause I know it was something special. Lucky you...

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I've gone to at least one or two games every year for the past five or six years now. But sadly I haven't been able to make it to one this year.

I totally overpaid for my ticket but it was damn worth it. Lower level seats and it was amped the whole time. I think I only sat down for maybe 10 minutes. The game went back and forth it was awesome. When BD made that shot from half court to go into half time the arena exploded. It was unreal, I've been to a Sac game before and they were known for years for being the best crowd in the NBA. They were playing The Warriors (of course) and it got damn loud.

But this didn't even compare. When the fans would yell D - Fense I was thrown off beat because we were so loud that it echoed around the arena.

It was incredible. :up: :D I was on cloud 9 for the rest of the night. :up:

[DarthRekal]

lakers BETTER beat the CLippers tonight :cmad:


we cant win for ish at the Rose Garden


now news comes that Bynum probably wont be back for the start of the playoffs:csad:



put me down for the playoff pool too NYSpidey... hows it formatted this year???


also im going to the spurs game on sunday

[omid17]

add me to the playoff pool too please

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Word, add me too.

[Bond]

What's this about a playoff pool?

[NewYorkSpider]

put me down for the playoff pool too NYSpidey... hows it formatted this year???



What's this about a playoff pool?

Just like how Fran did it. You pick the winners of the games, who wins the series and how many games it takes.

[Nightmare]

Add me in there too.


Nuggets with a close lead vs the warriors.

[LastSunrise1981]

Add me in to the Pool too.

And who says Dirk isn't clutch? He sure broke Utah's heart tonight with his clutch three after Deron Williams made one of his own.

[CrypticOne]

How about them Nuggets? HAHA. Nice win.

[Bond]

**** YAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I :heart: you Dirk!

[Bond]

Just like how Fran did it. You pick the winners of the games, who wins the series and how many games it takes.
Alright cool, add me!

[CrypticOne]

I'm doing one in the NHL thread if you want to look. All you do is pick who wins the games, who wins the series and how many games it takes them.

Alright cool thanks.

[batman44]

Had to come in and give Dirk his props:up:

[QueerMike]

I am requesting my addition to the NBA playoff poll.

[LastSunrise1981]

**** YAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I :heart: you Dirk!

When Deron hit that bank three I thought for sure that it was over. I thought that shot broke Dallas heart and they would pack it in. But Dirk put the team on his shoulders and led them to victory with that pressure three.

I love how he just caught that pass and shot it in complete rhythm. Great shot, great win, and now we clinched our playoff spot.

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[Bond]

When Deron hit that bank three I thought for sure that it was over. I thought that shot broke Dallas heart and they would pack it in. But Dirk put the team on his shoulders and led them to victory with that pressure three.

I love how he just caught that pass and shot it in complete rhythm. Great shot, great win, and now we clinched our playoff spot.
I thought it was over too, but Avery was telling them to sprint down the court after Deron's 3 and Dirk hit it. Avery was surprisingly the key to this win. Playoffs baby!

[Bond]

Oh, and does anyone else think Brandon Bass is a total badass?

[omid17]

new Kobe and Shaq commercial i saw on TNT, check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3vmpM2FGzU

[omid17]

Real video shown on TNT whers Kobe jumps over a speeding car! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIWeEFV59d4

[Raiden]

Add me to the pool too.

[Raiden]

lakers BETTER beat the CLippers tonight :cmad:


we cant win for ish at the Rose Garden


now news comes that Bynum probably wont be back for the start of the playoffs:csad:



put me down for the playoff pool too NYSpidey... hows it formatted this year???


also im going to the spurs game on sunday

It's good that Lakers beat Clips last night, but they really need to win the remaining 3 games if they hope to be #1, starting tonight against Hornets (whom they are 1 1/2 games behind). While it's good that their last 3 games are all at home, they have dropped games in Staples Center before, against easy teams, so they need to decide just how badly they wanted the #1 seed?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Damn Warriors! :mad: Well looks like we;re out of the playoffs. Ughhhhhhh I hope they make some big moves during this off season.

[Raiden]

Damn Warriors! :mad: Well looks like we;re out of the playoffs. Ughhhhhhh I hope they make some big moves during this off season.

They should get bigger; small doesn't work in the long run.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

They should get bigger; small doesn't work in the long run.

Yeah they need two bigs. :up:

[L.A.]

Yeah they need two bigs. :up:
And they need to play more of that Brandon Wright guy:o

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Yeha Nellie needs to get over his rookie limited play option.

Wright and Azibuke need to play more, even though Azibuke isn't a rookie. Although he did cost us the game last night, or at least a shot at actually winning it.

[Docker2.0]

yeah.............add me to the pool please. :O

[Silver Knight]

Al Thornton is nice.

Real nice.

[Docker2.0]

You know, if Livingston comes back to the Clips next year at least 90% and with a jumpshot, they resign Brand and trade Magette for a swing, then they should be ok. They have a nice line up with Kaman in the middle, Thornton and Brand at forwards, and Livingson at point.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

That's if Livingston is able to come back at 90%

[L.A.]

You know, if Livingston comes back to the Clips next year at least 90% and with a jumpshot, they resign Brand and trade Magette for a swing, then they should be ok. They have a nice line up with Kaman in the middle, Thornton and Brand at forwards, and Livingson at point.
Not sure if Livingston can come back to what he was. But yea if they bring back all main guys and are healthy, plus our high draft pick, we should make some noise next year. Not is lost in clipper land:o

[L.A.]

That's if Livingston is able to come back at 90%
I dont know...that was a serious injury. I would really consider a pg in this years draft or a combo guard. I like Derrick Rose, OJ Mayo, Eric Gordon, or even Jared Bayless.

[Silver Knight]

I dont know...that was a serious injury. I would really consider a pg in this years draft or a combo guard. I like Derrick Rose, OJ Mayo, Eric Gordon, or even Jared Bayless.
I agree.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I dont know...that was a serious injury. I would really consider a pg in this years draft or a combo guard. I like Derrick Rose, OJ Mayo, Eric Gordon, or even Jared Bayless.

Like I said, IF. Mayo hasn't impressed me all that much yet. He could easily go either way.

[L.A.]

Like I said, IF. Mayo hasn't impressed me all that much yet. He could easily go either way.
I agree about Mayo dude overrated but we have the 6th worst record in the league so we might have no choice but to take him.
I would rank picks for the clips
1. Derrick Rose
2. Jared Bayless
3. Eric Gordon
4. OJ Mayo

[Silver Knight]

Mayo is going to NY.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Good point.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Mayo is going to NY.

Awesome. Is NY trying to be the worst sports franchise ever?

[Docker2.0]

Not sure if Livingston can come back to what he was. But yea if they bring back all main guys and are healthy, plus our high draft pick, we should make some noise next year. Not is lost in clipper land:o Yeah but the future is brighter in Knicksville! :o

Like I said, IF. Mayo hasn't impressed me all that much yet. He could easily go either way.
Mayo is kind of overrated to me but I can honestly see him fitting in the with the Clips. He's a big name and that's kind of what they need, kind of like the Bulls needed with Kobe. I'm hoping that Arenas signs with them this office season, though I'm sure Sterling won't have that! :whatever:

[L.A.]

Mayo is going to NY.
I hope so...

[Raiden]

Do you guys think if Kevin Love went pro, he will be a high pick? There are experts who don't think he'd cut it in NBA.

[Docker2.0]

Awesome. Is NY trying to be the worst sports franchise ever?

:csad: Low blow............low blow!

[L.A.]

Yeah but the future is brighter in Knicksville! :o


Mayo is kind of overrated to me but I can honestly see him fitting in the with the Clips. He's a big name and that's kind of what they need, kind of like the Bulls needed with Kobe. I'm hoping that Arenas signs with them this office season, though I'm sure Sterling won't have that! :whatever:
No we need a Pass first pg like Derrick rose to organize everything with the team. Imagine Rose with players like Maggette, Brand, Thronton, and Kaman!:eek: Mayo is just another undersized selfish sg scorer.

[L.A.]

Do you guys think if Kevin Love went pro, he will be a high pick? There are experts who don't think he'd cut it in NBA.
I dont think he's going to make any type of huge impact in the NBA. He's only a freshman but he has a body of a 40 yr old white man. Nope thats not going to cut it in the NBA!

[Raiden]

:csad: Low blow............low blow!

Not gonna be easy for Knicks to become a contender anytime soon. Basically, Knicks have to dump alot of their salaries before 2010, when LeBron and Wade become FA. I doubt other clubs would want to take on Mabury and Curry's contracts, and it is likely Knicks will be stuck with them until their contracts expired.

[Silver Knight]

Do you guys think if Kevin Love went pro, he will be a high pick? There are experts who don't think he'd cut it in NBA.
Major bust.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

He's only a freshman but he has a body of a 40 yr old white man.

Then he better hurry up and get in before it's to late.

[Docker2.0]

No we need a Pass first pg like Derrick rose to organize everything with the team. Imagine Rose with players like Maggette, Brand, Thronton, and Kaman!:eek: Mayo is just another undersized selfish sg scorer.
I agree and Rose can't help but be good in the pros...........but the Clips need a superstar. Brand is one...........to a degree. There's a piece missing for the Clips to get over the hump. Arenas and Mayo may be it........though Mayo is overrated.
I dont think he's going to make any type of huge impact in the NBA. He's only a freshman but he has a body of a 40 yr old white man. Nope thats not going to cut it in the NBA!

I second that! :up:

[Silver Knight]

Not gonna be easy for Knicks to become a contender anytime soon. Basically, Knicks have to dump alot of their salaries before 2010, when LeBron and Wade become FA. I doubt other clubs would want to take on Mabury and Curry's contracts, and it is likely Knicks will be stuck with them until their contracts expired.
Thats pretty much the only case unless they are stupid enough to buy out their contracts.

[Docker2.0]

Not gonna be easy for Knicks to become a contender anytime soon. Basically, Knicks have to dump alot of their salaries before 2010, when LeBron and Wade become FA. I doubt other clubs would want to take on Mabury and Curry's contracts, and it is likely Knicks will be stuck with them until their contracts expired.

NExt year Marbury and............someone else's contract come off the books. They will actually be under the Cap starting next summer. :huh:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Do you guys think if Kevin Love went pro, he will be a high pick? There are experts who don't think he'd cut it in NBA.


He is a safe pick so he would go high, Maybe not top 5 but top 10 for sure.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

:csad: Low blow............low blow!

And sadly.....true. :csad:

[Bond]

I have a good feeling about the Knicks next year...

not so much the Clips.

[NewYorkSpider]

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[Ghostvirus]

When do we need to have out picks in. It is probably going to be a tight squeeze since some teams still don't have it locked down.

[Malice]

Man the Rockets owned the Suns tonight!

[NewYorkSpider]

When do we need to have out picks in. It is probably going to be a tight squeeze since some teams still don't have it locked down.

When does the postseason begin? Is it the 17th? The last day of the regular season is the 16th. I guess you will have to send me the ones that we know.

Edit. The playoffs begin on the 19th. That gives us at least 2 days to get picks in. We should know some matchups before the Reg. Season ends. Boston, Detroit and Orlando already have the 1st, 2nd and 3rd seeds locked up.

[L.A.]

I have a good feeling about the Knicks next year...

not so much the Clips.
It all depends what direction management wants to go with the clips. They might go back to the old days and just let Brand And Maggette who both can opt out of there contracts to free agency. Or Have a little luck and get the number 1 pick with Derrick Rose and keep the core guys.

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[runawayboulder]

After next season the Knicks team salary drops from 90 mil to around 50-55 mil. I'd like to see Van Gundy come back, but it most likely won't happen. In reality it doesn't matter who coaches the team, this is going to take 3 years anyway.

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After next season the Knicks team salary drops from 90 mil to around 50-55 mil. I'd like to see Van Gundy come back, but it most likely won't happen. In reality it doesn't matter who coaches the team, this is going to take 3 years anyway.
Nah! the Knicks could be back to playoff status next season if they do addition by subtraction. I say get rid of Marbury and I'll give Curry til the all star break to prove that he wants to be there. All this garbage about him not being able to play beside Zach is BS. Zach is the biggest ballhog there is since Jordan but at least he still goes out and gets 10 rebounds. I remember the center from Golden State had a career high in rebounds against Curry, like 20+. And dude is skinny as hell! The Knicks have talent at every position and I'd say if Curry doesnt' want to be there, then play Morris at the 5. In the East, this team can make the playoffs next year................just have to get rid of the roaches in order to make the house clean.

[runawayboulder]

The Knicks probably will make the playoffs next year because the east is so weak. It will be a few years before they're a serious contender.

Donnie Walsh said during his press conference Curry was one of the players that interested him the most. They should bring Ewing in as an assistant after what he's done with Yao Ming and Howard.

Marbury is surely gone...

[NewYorkSpider]

I asked twice but who's counting. :o


Sorry. I sorta skimmed through the thread and must have missed you.

[Docker2.0]

The Knicks probably will make the playoffs next year because the east is so weak. It will be a few years before they're a serious contender.

Donnie Walsh said during his press conference Curry was one of the players that interested him the most. They should bring Ewing in as an assistant after what he's done with Yao Ming and Howard.

Marbury is surely gone... Did you read Marbury trying to kiss up to Walsh already saying that next year he's going to be full dedicated to this team?! yeah right! :whatever: Curry has no heart.......period! I have found myself making excuses for those guys but what they did to Isaiah was embarassing! People can say that he f-ed this roster up but truth is, they have talent! They just have a lot of bi+ch in them. Curry not playing hard at all this year cuase he "lost his confidence" is bs. Even when I have a bad day shooting the ball, I still hustle, rebound, steal the ball or try to get a block. If his shot isn't going or he feels he isn't getting it, he just whines and doesn't even try to get a rebound. As big a body as he has, he should average a double doube.

Sorry. I sorta skimmed through the thread and must have missed you.
No problem!

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Let's go Utah let's go!!!!

[CrypticOne]

Let's Go Nuggets!

[Mister J]

Let's Go Heat!
:waa:

[Malice]

You all are wrong...Rockets all the way.
They spanked the Suns last night..Proof its all about the Rockets!

[Docker2.0]

Rockets are going out first round.......................again. :o ...................like the Suns. :(

[LastSunrise1981]

Rockets are going out first round.......................again. :o ...................like the Suns. :(

I don't think Phoenix are going out in the First Round.

Personally I see Phoenix possibly going to the WCF again and facing either the Spurs, Dallas, or Los Angeles. I know many will disagree but I feel adding Shaq to the line-up helps them maintain a decent half-court offense and defensive scheme.

If they can manage to keep Shaq at the Center and Amare at the PF they will be very strong and tough to beat in the Playoffs.

[Docker2.0]

I think given more time they could get far but....................I just don't think they adjusted to Shaq yet. I know at one point they won like 7 of 8 games but something about that streak didnt seem authenic to me. I hope the Suns can make it to the finals but I just don't have a lot of faith in them, just like I don't have a lot of faith in the Lakers now that Bynum isn't back yet. I'm thinking, as much as I hate to say this, that the Spurs will comeout of the west. I hope not though. I'd rather Utah or New Orleans comeout than them.

[Malice]

So why do you think the Rockets will get eliminated so fast?

[Malice]

I gotta say, Shaq did not look to good last night...he seemed "lost"

[Docker2.0]

So why do you think the Rockets will get eliminated so fast?

No Yao Ming and Mcgrady's has a history of quick exits. Either way they got to play a hard first round match up.

[Bond]

I knew Dallas's game in Portland tonight wouldn't come as easy as it sounds. It went down to the wire, and Avery's bizarre and totally un-affective in-bound play with 4 seconds left was horrible. Kidd threw it into Jet who shot a 3 at the buzzer but missed. :(

[Excel]

Barring meltdown of game; LeBron will join MJ and Oscar as the only players ever to average 30 points 7 boards and 7 assists...offensive machine this dude is, and with a team shooting 36% without him.

[NewYorkSpider]

No Yao Ming and Mcgrady's has a history of quick exits. Either way they got to play a hard first round match up.

If they play the Jazz in the first round they're done. Jazz are too good at home. I say the series would be done in 5-6 games. But the standings are changing every night so who knows.

[Ghostvirus]

If any good were to come out of this season of absolute dissappointment. It would be Boston V.S. Pheonix. With Nash finally getting the title. Anything less would be....unsatisfactory.

[Bond]

Yea I'm not making any predictions until I see the final standings.

[LastSunrise1981]

I knew Dallas's game in Portland tonight wouldn't come as easy as it sounds. It went down to the wire, and Avery's bizarre and totally un-affective in-bound play with 4 seconds left was horrible. Kidd threw it into Jet who shot a 3 at the buzzer but missed. :(

We already clinched our playoff spot. It's no biggie that we lost to Portland who aren't a threat in the playoffs.

[CrypticOne]

Jeez. The eight spot in the West is tied again. Come on Nuggets!

[Bond]

We already clinched our playoff spot. It's no biggie that we lost to Portland who aren't a threat in the playoffs.
I know, we were losing the whole game and the loss really doesn't affect us at all... but I just want to make sure we don't fall to 8th. Which... won't happen. But still.

[LastSunrise1981]

I know, we were losing the whole game and the loss really doesn't affect us at all... but I just want to make sure we don't fall to 8th. Which... won't happen. But still.

It won't. As I said, we already clinched our spot and barring some tragic mistake we'll stay as the 7th seed. The 8th seed is going to be between Golden State and Denver obviously.

[Bond]

It won't. As I said, we already clinched our spot and barring some tragic mistake we'll stay as the 7th seed. The 8th seed is going to be between Golden State and Denver obviously.
I know. Whatev.

So, speaking from one Mavericks fan to another, which team would you least like to play in the first round, besides the Hornets: Spurs, Lakers, or Rockets?

[LastSunrise1981]

I know. Whatev.

So, speaking from one Mavericks fan to another, which team would you least like to play in the first round, besides the Hornets: Spurs, Lakers, or Rockets?

To be honest it really doesn't matter. Whoever Dallas faces will be a tough opponent simply due to the fact that the playoffs aren't easy and every team has to earn it.

Which team would I least like to play in the first round? Honestly, I'd have to say the Lakers. They play great ball and always give us some troubles with Kobe, Gasol, and Fisher in certain instances. I don't see the Hornets, Spurs, or Rockets giving us as much trouble as the Lakers does though.

[Bond]

To be honest it really doesn't matter. Whoever Dallas faces will be a tough opponent simply due to the fact that the playoffs aren't easy and every team has to earn it.

Which team would I least like to play in the first round? Honestly, I'd have to say the Lakers. They play great ball and always give us some troubles with Kobe, Gasol, and Fisher in certain instances. I don't see the Hornets, Spurs, or Rockets giving us as much trouble as the Lakers does though.
It'll be tough but I think they'll pull through the first round.

And I'd have to agree. Lakers are gonna be hard to beat in the playoffs.

[Malice]

No Yao Ming and Mcgrady's has a history of quick exits. Either way they got to play a hard first round match up.

I never liked Yao and the guy Luis Scola was running circles around people Friday night...had 20-something points

[Lobo]

has this been posted?

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2008/04/12/2008-04-12_billy_king_and_rick_sund_top_donnie_wals-3.html

Donnie Walsh has narrowed his choices for Knicks GM to a short list that includes long-time NBA executives Billy King and Rick Sund, the Daily News has learned.

According to an NBA executive who talked with Walsh this past week, the team's new president has plans to begin interviewing King and Sund, and perhaps a third candidate, shortly after the season ends Wednesday.

As for the third candidate, Isiah Thomas is not in the mix to stay on as GM, according to the source, who also said that Walsh is not thinking of Mark Jackson for the post, either. Jackson has been mentioned as a potential GM since Walsh's arrival.

"Donnie is looking at Jackson as a coaching candidate," said the source.

When Walsh took over 12 days ago, he did not commit to bringing in a GM to help him rebuild the Knicks. Although he intends to be hands-on, the fact that he has targeted experienced executives tells you how he views the task. In a word, monumental.

While Golden State's Chris Mullin is a protégé of Walsh's, he is not on the short list, perhaps because he is under contract to Golden State. That looks to be a stumbling block for Walsh, even as the St. John's legend's name continues to be linked to the post. Similarly, Denver executive Mark Warkentien had been seen as Walsh's first choice to help him rebuild the team. But Warkentien is under contract to the Nuggets and also did not make Walsh's short list. Hiring King or Sund would not cost the Knicks compensation.

Glen Grunwald, the Knicks senior VP of Basketball Operations, was in Portsmouth, Va., last week scouting potential draft picks. But his tenure will come to an end when Walsh fires Thomas, possibly as early as Thursday, the day after the Knick season ends. Thomas, meanwhile, could be reassigned within the organization.

"Once Donnie takes care of Isiah, and then after he meets with the players, then he will start sitting down with his potential GM's," the source said.

King was in his fifth season as Sixers president, and 11th season overall in Philly, when he was fired this season. His stock has been on the rise as the Sixers have played their way into the postseason for the first time since 2005. King worked for Walsh and the Pacers as an assistant coach under Larry Brown for four seasons in the mid-90's.

Sund, a 30-year NBA front-office executive, has never worked for Walsh, but the two have had dealings as far back as the 1980's when Sund ran the Dallas Mavericks. Sund is also a candidate for the GM job in Indiana under team president Larry Bird. Sund headed up the Sonics for six years before being axed after last season due to an ownership change. The Sonics won the Northwest Division in 2005 and advanced to the second round. He spent this season as a consultant to the team and turned down a chance to join the Nets as Rod Thorn's special assistant. That job went to Kiki Vandeweghe.

Because of their experience running teams, King and Sund were considered the top candidates for Milwaukee's GM opening. Both had interviews with the Bucks, who also approached Walsh about their position, but that job was filled last Friday by Detroit VP John Hammond.

Walsh could expand his GM wish-list if the Hawks fire Billy Knight. There has been speculation that Atlanta will clean house, with Knight and coach Mike Woodson both getting pink slips. Like King, Knight worked under Walsh in Indiana, for five seasons when he was starting out as an NBA executive.

[Docker2.0]

I like Billy King but I honestly hope Isaiah stays in the organization. I also hope Jackson can coach them as well. I think that what the players did to Thomas was wrong.

[Lobo]

Let Isiah be a talent scout, I think he's suited for that. I don't want him as coach any longer. I'd be happy with King as GM and Jackson as coach, but I'd prefer a more experienced coach like Rick Carlisle

[Docker2.0]

Carlisle will be excellent! I just want Curry and Marbury gone. Those guys are team cancers! I can't believe those guys didn't make the playoffs this year.

[omid17]

Lakers killed the Spurs :)

[Immortalfire]

Seattle just beat Dallas..lol

[Bond]

****ing Mavs lost back to back road games against under .500 teams....

Portland isn't that bad of a team though, and this possibly being the last game in Seattle played a big factor.

But still.

[Ghostvirus]

Well my cable company finally got NBA TV. Starting May 1st. What do you all think. Should I just get it for the remainder of the season? What do they show in the offseason?

[LastSunrise1981]

****ing Mavs lost back to back road games against under .500 teams....

Portland isn't that bad of a team though, and this possibly being the last game in Seattle played a big factor.

But still.

It's okay. Dallas more than likely was resting their starters for when the playoffs start rather than risk a season ending injury to Kidd, Dirk, Terry, or Howard. Yeah losing to Seattle does suck, but look at how the Spurs got killed by the Lakers, and that's a team they normally own on a regular basis.

[LastSunrise1981]

Well my cable company finally got NBA TV. Starting May 1st. What do you all think. Should I just get it for the remainder of the season? What do they show in the offseason?

I believe they show everything. For example they'll show the playoffs, championship games, and once the off-season rolls around they'll show some documentaries and the Summer League games with NBA hopefuls.

It's really not bad at all actually. A long time ago NBA TV used to come with the basic digital cable package until they started charging for it. I remember seeing a lot of classic NBA games, documentaries, and summer games that made it interesting to watch.

[DBella]

Last night could most likely be the Sonics' last home game in Seattle. It was bittersweet. Sweet that they beat the Mavs, bitter that they're leaving the place that have been their home for over 40 years and breaking the hearts of many fans.

[Silver Knight]

Do you think the Sonics will get new uniforms or keep the green and gold?

[L.A.]

2007-08 Power Rankings: Week 24
RANK (LAST WK) TEAM REC. COMMENT
1 (1) Celtics 64-16 The Celts were the wire-to-wire team of the season and start the postseason as the consensus Team To Beat. So where else could we put them? Boston's last 60-win team was its last championship team in 1985-86.
2 (4) Lakers 56-25 Let the record show that this MVP vote for Kobe was posted before L.A.'s weekend wins over the Hornets and Spurs. One more win now, though, should clinch Kobe's MVP trophy and the West's top seed.
3 (3) Pistons 57-23 The team that lives to be dissed enters the playoffs generating zero hoopla. Now to see if the Pistons can use that as a spark and become the first club to go to six straight conference finals since the Lakers from 1982-89.
4 (6) Jazz 53-27 People tend forget what a difference that Korver trade made. Utah's new sharpshooter hasn't started a single game, but the Jazz is 26-2 when he just scores at least 10 points and 11-10 on the road since the deal.
5 (2) Hornets 55-25 It's still a season-for-the-ages for Paul even if he isn't the MVP or the Hornets fall short of No. 1 in the West. Because of CP3, Nash is the first PG since Magic in 1990-91 to average 11 assists and not lead the league.
6 (8) Rockets 54-26 Anyone else out there notice that the Yao-less team every other club in the West wants to face in the first round of the playoffs can still finish with a seed as high as No. 2 if things go Houston's way? We're just saying.
7 (7) Suns 53-27 For all the progress they've made since that 3-6 start with Shaq -- with a 13-5 recovery -- it's looking as though the Suns will likely be a No. 6 seed. Only three teams ever have reached the Finals from No. 6 or lower.
8 (5) Spurs 54-26 The champs are the first team to post nine straight 50-win seasons since the Lakers from '79-80 through '90-91. But they won't repeat this time, either, if Manu's groin doesn't rally, since they can barely score without him.
9 (13) Nuggets 49-32 The Nuggets only need to beat Memphis on Wednesday to clinch a playoff berth. The Grizzlies have won one game in 17 previous trips to the Pepsi Center. The Warriors will not want to read those last two sentences.
10 (9) Mavericks 50-31 Just when they were starting to feel good about things -- Avery says 50 wins this season feels a bit like 60 under normal conditions -- losses at Portland and Seattle could send the Mavs to the playoffs as a No. 8 seed.
11 (12) Magic 50-30 Dwight's dominant fourth season reminds you a little bit of Shaq's fourth season. Except that Shaq's career in Orlando ended after magical season No. 4 . . . while Dwight is under contract to the Magic through at least 2012.
12 (15) Wizards 42-38 It's too late for Arenas to crash the Sixth Man Award race, but those three wins over Boston -- coupled with Gil, Butler and Jamison all finding their health at the right time -- have the Celts and the Cavs pretty freaked.
13 (11) 76ers 40-40 In New York, Isiah Thomas' contract extension doomed the Knicks. In Philly? The Sixers were seven games under .500, at 24-31, when Mo Cheeks got his extension . . . and then they became a playoff team again.
14 (10) Warriors 48-32 Denver gave Golden State new life with those losses to Sacramento and Seattle, only for the Dubs to give it all back when they couldn't beat the Nuggets at home. So don't blame Golden State's plight all on that 0-6 start.
15 (16) Cavaliers 44-36 The big question here used to be: How can the Cavs beat Boston and Detroit to get back to the Finals? Now we ask: Is LeBron's back sturdy enough to get the Cavs -- just 14-12 since the big trade -- out of the first round?
16 (17) Kings 38-42 We repeat: It happens every season and this season it happened to the Kings. They're the scrappy team out West that hears every day how it would be a playoff team for sure if it could just switch to the East.
17 (19) Trail Blazers 40-40 Pretty rosy season when you add it all up, with another lottery pick on the way after Portland offset Oden's surgery with a 13-game win streak and then avoided a losing record as the third-youngest team in history.
18 (14) Hawks 37-43 Doesn't matter how low they're finishing here. Doesn't matter that they'd be a game out of 11th in the West. Doesn't matter that they're going to be swept by Boston. For at least the rest of the week, Hawk Pride is soaring.
19 (18) Raptors 40-40 Colangelo is ''disappointed.'' Bosh is annoyed because people keeping asking him if he's ''frustrated.'' Yet somehow slumping Toronto remains in prime position to see Orlando in Round 1, as the Raps have been hoping for.
20 (20) Pacers 35-45 Indy awoke Monday morning with faint mathematical hope of stealing the No. 8 seed from those similarly sub-.500 Hawks. Realistically, though, Saturday's indefensible home defeat to Charlotte ended that dream.
21 (23) Bobcats 31-49 Our good friend Sam Smith came up with this one in the final Power Rankings he did for the Chicago Trib: Now we wait to see if Sam Vincent joins Scott Skiles on the list of Michigan State greats to be axed this season.
22 (21) Nets 33-47 The Nets were the East's last No. 1 seed to make it all the way to the NBA Finals . . . in 2002. But what's left of those Nets won't even be able to make that claim any more if the Celts do what they're supposed to do.
23 (22) Bulls 31-49 The Bulls didn't turn into a D-League team like Miami, but finishing the season in tank mode to improve their lottery odds was a similarly steep and sinful fall considering that Chicago was a trendy pick to win the East.
24 (29) Bucks 26-54 A 7-4 start and three wins against Cleveland. Those were the lone highlights of a miserable campaign until Simmons' unexpected candidacy and the ultimate hire of John Hammond as GM finally restored some hope.
25 (28) Knicks 23-57 It might be recorded as the only positive achievement of Isiah's tenure -- and we're seriously testing the bounds of positivity to bill it as such -- but this will not be the first Knicks team ever to loss 60 games. Barely.
26 (24) Grizzlies 22-58 Can't tell if you the Grizz will ever be forgiven for gift-wrapping Pau to the Lakers. But how they're viewed in their own town would certainly change drastically if they somehow end up with Derrick Rose on draft night.
27 (27) SuperSonics 19-62 The last two Sundays in Seattle, with wins over Denver and Dallas, were undeniably spectacular. Yet you can't duck the feeling that the Sonics are indeed gone and just said farewell with the first 60-loss season in club history.
28 (26) Timberwolves 21-59 The Wolves need a 2-0 finish to avoid their first 60-loss season since going 21-61 in 1994-95. Just curious: How many guesses did you need to remember that 1994-95 was the Wolves' last season without KG?
29 (25) Clippers 23-57 It's the last Clips comment of a forgettable season . . . so we're using this space to remind the world that last Tuesday was the 30-year anniversary of my beloved Braves' final game in Buffalo before becoming the Clips.
30 (30) Heat 14-66 This won't officially be recorded as the Heat's worst-ever season unless they lose their remaining two games. But good luck trying to convince Pat Riley even if Miami shocks the world with its own scorching 2-0 finish.

[Raiden]

If Lakers beat Kings, they should finish as #1 seed, and Kobe deserves to be MVP over CP3.

[SodaPop]

If L.A gets the 1 seed, do you think they can make out of the second round? They'll either be facing an experienced Jazz Team or a streaky rockets team, or quite possibly the spurs, which i know they just walloped them, but the spurs thrive in the playoffs. I honestly wouldn't be suprised if the Lakers lose to the jazz in the second round. Utah has the tools to beat them, and they have the experience.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Utah won yes! But Houston lost! Damn it. Warriors have a must win game tonight but then Denver still has to lose to Memphis. *sigggggggggggggghhhh*

[Raiden]

If L.A gets the 1 seed, do you think they can make out of the second round? They'll either be facing an experienced Jazz Team or a streaky rockets team, or quite possibly the spurs, which i know they just walloped them, but the spurs thrive in the playoffs. I honestly wouldn't be suprised if the Lakers lose to the jazz in the second round. Utah has the tools to beat them, and they have the experience.

Lakers have beaten Jazz this season, and in Salt Lake City (where Jazz has been invincible), no less. If they face each other, I expect Lakers to win in 6.

[NewYorkSpider]

[i]NBA Playoff Pool Signups.
NewYorkSpider
L.A
Ghostvirus
omid17
BAH HUMBBUG
DarthRekal
Bond
LastSunrise1981
QueerMike
CrypticOne
fran
Raiden
Docker
JaD
DBella


Anyone else? The playoffs will be starting soon.

[DBella]

Do you think the Sonics will get new uniforms or keep the green and gold?
I don't know. I think a change of location should mean a change in everything... name, mascot, team color.

Schultz, Bennett & Stern... I hate you bastards.

[DBella]

Anyone else? The playoffs will be starting soon.
I'm in, if it's not too late.

[NewYorkSpider]

I'm in, if it's not too late.

You're in. I'll give details toward the end of the week. I also send out a PM to everyone with information.

[Immortalfire]

Carmelo Anthony arrested...http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=txnuggetsanthony&prov=st&type=lgns

DENVER— Denver Nuggets star forward Carmelo Anthony was arrested Monday morning for suspicion of driving under the influence.

Denver police stated that Anthony was driving south on Interstate 25 roughly around 4 a.m. when he was pulled over and taken into custody. Investigators said he was driving a silver Mercedes that was stopped for failing to drive in a single lane and failing to dim lights.

“Carmelo was pulled over late Sunday night on suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol,” said Anthony’s lawyer Dan Recht in a statement. “He cooperated by consenting to a blood test, the results of which will not be available for approximately two weeks. There was no accident and no one was hurt.

“Like anyone in a similar situation, Carmelo has to wait for the results of his blood test. He regrets putting himself in this situation.”

Anthony was released on bond Monday morning on his own recognizance. A summons appearance was scheduled for May 14.

[L.A.]

Dammit u beat me to it immortalfire:mad:

[Immortalfire]

:hehe:

[terry78]

This *****....it's like clockwork that players do dumbass stuff right when they need to be in peak condition.

[Bond]

Well my cable company finally got NBA TV. Starting May 1st. What do you all think. Should I just get it for the remainder of the season? What do they show in the offseason?
Mine hasn't gotten NBA TV yet... which one do you have?

[Excel]

Mello you idiot; w/e let AI take over.

[Docker2.0]

Kobe shouldn't win MVP. I'm sorry but dude *****ed and complained about his teammates but when they got Gasol now he decides to play. Plus he got Gasol. Who does Paul have? Chandler and West are ok but Paul makes those guys better. Kobe's good but his selfishness just should make him wait another year. :o

[Raiden]

Kobe shouldn't win MVP. I'm sorry but dude *****ed and complained about his teammates but when they got Gasol now he decides to play. Plus he got Gasol. Who does Paul have? Chandler and West are ok but Paul makes those guys better. Kobe's good but his selfishness just should make him wait another year. :o

I think Kobe deserves his MVP this year. Keep in mind that although they got Gasol, they also lost several good players like Byrum and Ariza, plus Kobe and Fisher have injuries of their own that they are playing through. And Gasol was out with injury for several weeks and the team had to play without him. In the past, Kobe had posted amazing individual stats, but he didn't get MVP because (1) he didn't make his teammates better and (2) Lakers didn't contend. This year, Kobe not only trusted his teammates more, but Lakers are also contending for #1 seed. Chris Paul is an amazing player, but he does have help and neither Chandler nor West are scrubs. If he had players like Karame Brown and Smush Parker (like Kobe did in the past), I doubt he'd make them better substantially.

So anyway, Kobe should get MVP in '08.

[DarthRekal]

Last night could most likely be the Sonics' last home game in Seattle. It was bittersweet. Sweet that they beat the Mavs, bitter that they're leaving the place that have been their home for over 40 years and breaking the hearts of many fans.


sadness :csad:


I went to the game yesterday.. PLAYOFFS time baby...

with Pau actually playing defense.. LOOK OUT!...


and whoever is saying we cant beat UTAH in the second FORGOT we would have HOME COURT... yes UTAH is tough at HOME.. but check their ROAD record:cwink:

also EXPECT an ARIZA sighting in teh second round .. and with Newble learning the offense.. HELLO perimeter D!!!!!!!!!:woot:

[DarthRekal]

Kobe shouldn't win MVP. I'm sorry but dude *****ed and complained about his teammates but when they got Gasol now he decides to play. Plus he got Gasol. Who does Paul have? Chandler and West are ok but Paul makes those guys better. Kobe's good but his selfishness just should make him wait another year. :o
kobe has US contending BEFORE Pau got here...AND when Pau went down...

Kobe was in the talks since game 1.. and is still there.. if anything he was the only one ppl have talked about all year

[Docker2.0]

He did but he complained about it the whole time. Plus its not like the Lakers are a scrub team. They have decent players. Jordan Farmer, Odom, Tarief, Walton, Fischer(who I really think is undervalued as a leader) and the list goes on. I'm not saying Kobe aint a great player but this is basically the same team they had last year with 2 additions but its only now Kobe decides his team is good. If Kobe played for NO and Paul played for the Lakers people would be calling for Paul for mvp. *sigh* I give up. :(

[NewYorkSpider]

Playoff Pool:

The Eastern Conference Playoffs are set. So if you can send me your picks for those games via PM, we don't have to wait for the Western Conference to get set(which might not get set untill the final day.)

I'll send out a PM to everyone for a reminder.

What I need.

Winners of each game, who wins the series and how many games it takes.

Example: Celtics in 4
1. Celtics 2. Celtics 3. Celtics 4. Celtics

I'll post everyone's picks before the games start.

Just like that. Any questions?

[CrypticOne]

The Nuggets clinch! YEAH!

[Silver Knight]

Bye bye Warriors..

[omid17]

I think Kobe deserves his MVP this year. Keep in mind that although they got Gasol, they also lost several good players like Byrum and Ariza, plus Kobe and Fisher have injuries of their own that they are playing through. And Gasol was out with injury for several weeks and the team had to play without him. In the past, Kobe had posted amazing individual stats, but he didn't get MVP because (1) he didn't make his teammates better and (2) Lakers didn't contend. This year, Kobe not only trusted his teammates more, but Lakers are also contending for #1 seed. Chris Paul is an amazing player, but he does have help and neither Chandler nor West are scrubs. If he had players like Karame Brown and Smush Parker (like Kobe did in the past), I doubt he'd make them better substantially.

So anyway, Kobe should get MVP in '08.:up:

[JaD]

Bye bye Warriors..

:csad::csad::csad::csad:

But I'm still proud of them for one heck of a record this season. :up:

[omid17]

He did but he complained about it the whole time. Plus its not like the Lakers are a scrub team. They have decent players. Jordan Farmer, Odom, Tarief, Walton, Fischer(who I really think is undervalued as a leader) and the list goes on. I'm not saying Kobe aint a great player but this is basically the same team they had last year with 2 additions but its only now Kobe decides his team is good. If Kobe played for NO and Paul played for the Lakers people would be calling for Paul for mvp. *sigh* I give up. :(because it's true, his team is 10xs better than last years! Sasha, Farmar, Odom, Vlad... these guys have really stepped up their game from last year. Yeah Kobe did want Kidd on his team over Bynum, the Laker fans did too, Andrew was crap last year, no one expected him to be soo good this season. IMO Kobe made his team much better by sharing the ball a lot more this season that gave his team mates much more confidence.

Even Byron Scott said he wouldn't be surprised if Kobe got MVP. CP3 is a great player, and he is pretty much the only reason the Hornets are doing an awesome job this season, BUT Kobe has been pretty much consistent with his numbers for almost 12 NBA seasons, he really deserves it

[Nightmare]

Andrew wasnt "crap" last season. He started off strong then struggled the second half of the season. Farmar was a rookie last season and really has improved. Last season Kwame Brown and Smush parker were starters. Theyve obviously upgraded over that. But Drew, Pau have had there share of injuries this season. The lakers had to battle through that and still have that #1 seed.

[Ben Urich]

Award picks :o

MVP: Chris Paul
RoY: Al Horford
DPoY: Kevin Garnett
MIP: Hedo Turkoglu (Andrew Bynum would have won were it not for his injury)
CoY: Byron Scott
EoY: Daryl Morey

All-NBA First Team:
Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Dwight Howard

All-NBA Second Team:
Chauncey Billups, Allen Iverson, Dirk Nowitzki, Amare Stoudemire, Tim Duncan

All-NBA Third Team:
Deron Williams, Tracu McGranobili :o, Paul Pierce, Carlos Boozer, Pau Gasol

[L.A.]

Yao Ming doesnt make the all nba team?lol

[Docker2.0]

What's DPOY?

I don't think Dirk should be 2nd all nba. I say third. I'm really starting to think dude is badly overrated.

[L.A.]

defensive player of the year!

[SodaPop]

I think Boozer deserves second team and that billups shouldn't be on any team, and baron davis should take his place. and dirk is highly overrated, IMO, so he shouldn't be on the second team it should be McGrady in his place.

[Ben Urich]

I think the only real ironclad team is the first one. Some people might put Amare Stoudemire at center there, but that's wrong for two reasons: one, he's only played at an MVP level since the Suns acquired Shaq; Dwight's played at an MVP level all season. Two, he's doing it playing power forward, not center; Dwight plays center, and has played center every minute of his career beginning with his second season.

What's DPOY?

Defensive Player of the Year.

I don't think Dirk should be 2nd all nba. I say third. I'm really starting to think dude is badly overrated.

:huh:

25 points, 9 rebounds, and 4 assists a night to go with 48% from the field, 36% from three, 88% from the line is overrated? What more do you want him to do? And before you say, "Deliver in the clutch," consider this: Dirk is third in points-per-48-minutes of crunch-time this season (http://82games.com/CSORT11.HTM), behind only LeBron and Kobe.

I think Boozer deserves second team

I think one could argue that Boozer and Dirk should switch spots, yeah. Boozer's a better rebounder and shooter, but doesn't have three-point range. He's also a horrid defender. But the fact that he plays on a better team works to his advantage. That's a close call.

and that billups shouldn't be on any team, and baron davis should take his place.

Billups, at 31, is having his finest professional season for the second-best team in the NBA. 17 points, 3 rebounds, 7 assists, just 2 turnovers. 45% from the field, 40% from downtown, 92% from the line.
Davis, at 29, is having a solid year for a lottery team. 22 points, 5 rebounds, 8 assists, 43% from the field, 33% from downtown, 75% from the line.

Baron's stats are better, but that's because his team plays at a faster pace than Billups'. Additionally, his team is in the lottery, in large part because he stunk it up last night (2-of-13 in 17 minutes, DNP-CD in the second half) when a victory would have kept its playoff hopes alive. And, for what it's worth, the stats come the summer before he can exercise his opt-out clause and become a free-agent. Hmmmm.

Don't get me wrong. I love Boom. But Chauncey is having the better season for the better team. That's why he gets second-team honors from me. And really, finishing second to Chris Paul is nothing of which to be ashamed.

And actually, looking more carefully, one could argue that Williams and Billups should switch spots. Deron-run-run averages 19 points, 3 boards, 11 assists, and 3 turnovers. 51% from the field, 39% from downtown, 80% from the line. And he's only 23. :wow:

and dirk is highly overrated, IMO, so he shouldn't be on the second team it should be McGrady in his place.

Wrong. :dry:

The overrated player in this conversation is McGrady, who isn't having as great a year as one might think. Point to the Rockets' 22-game win streak all you like, but that's not Tracy's doing. This chart (http://www.wagesofwins.com/BryantMcGrady070866.html) (courtesy The Wages of Wins (http://dberri.wordpress.com/2008/03/17/kobe-and-t-mac-again/)) shows that his production in the second half of this season is nearly identical to that from the first half. We can conclude, then, that the Rockets' improbably streak was due to the emergence of their role-players. Two rookies (Luis Scola and Carl Landry) and a journeyman point guard (Rafer Alston) played out of their minds. The Rockets also got great contributions from Dikembe Mutombo and Mike Harris (D-League!).

But even objectively, just looking at the stats, Tracy hasn't played nearly as well as Dirk has. 22 points (on 20 shot attempts; i can haz efficiency?), 5 rebounds, 6 assists, 1 steal. 42% shooting, 30% from downtown, 68% from the stripe.

Now tell me, with a straight face, that Tracy McGrady is better than Dirk Nowitzki.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

*Sighhhhhhhhhhh* Fing Warriors. Well they need to make two big moves this off season. At least.

[DarthRekal]

KObe deserves MVP

1st ALL Team


DPOY


ROY


6th man

and COACH of the YEAR:hehe:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Chris Paul deserves MVP

[Raiden]

Kobe is the MVP. Unlike Chris Paul, he has to deal with loss of teammates to injuries (Byrum, Ariza), injury he has (pinky), and he has made his teammates better, while still put out impressive numbers night-in and night-out. Plus, he's a clutch player who can make shots when it counts. Finally, if Lakers get the #1 seed (after they beat Kings tonight), it'd make his feats all the more impressive. Chris has a fantastic season, but he's not the MVP.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Chris Paul makes his teammates better. Take away Chris Paul and where are the Hornets? Take away Kobe and where are The Lakers? It's not best player in the league it's most valuable.

[Raiden]

Chris Paul makes his teammates better. Take away Chris Paul and where are the Hornets? Take away Kobe and where are The Lakers? It's not best player in the league it's most valuable.

I would argue that Kobe is also the most valuable. Except for Gasol (whom they acquired only during the season, and only after Byrum went down), this Lakers team isn't that much different from last season. Fisher is back, but he's a role player and not an all-star. And last year Lakers didn't do too well, but when you have scrubs like Kwame Brown on your team, it's hard to be good. Without Kobe, this team won't be contending like they are right now, esp. with all those injuries they are having this year. At least Chris Paul doesn't have to deal with injuries on the Hornets on his team, nor does he have torn ligament on his pinky.

[DarthRekal]

Chris Paul makes his teammates better. Take away Chris Paul and where are the Hornets? Take away Kobe and where are The Lakers? It's not best player in the league it's most valuable.
again i hate this argument.. its OKAY to use this argument AGAINST Kobe(which i still dont buy) but not FOR him... what about the last 4 years.. he WAS the most valuable to his team and got squat .. boo hoo.. where would amare and marion and barbosa be without Nash... ??? you cant flip flop arguments.. stay consistent...if your argument is best player on best team.. there shouldnt BE ANY argument...

and even if you use the omission argument.. the Lakers wouldnt have Pau.. if Kobe didnt whine all year..:brucebat:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

again i hate this argument.. its OKAY to use this argument AGAINST Kobe(which i still dont buy) but not FOR him... what about the last 4 years.. he WAS the most valuable to his team and got squat .. boo hoo.. where would amare and marion and barbosa be without Nash... ??? you cant flip flop arguments.. stay consistent...if your argument is best player on best team.. there shouldnt BE ANY argument...

and even if you use the omission argument.. the Lakers wouldnt have Pau.. if Kobe didnt whine all year..:brucebat:

Did I say anything about last season? Did I say anything about Nash or his MVPs. I am talking about this year and my opinion for who the MVP should be. And I think it should be Chris Paul. And just because you're the most valuable to your team does not mean you are the most valuable player in the whole league.

[Ghostvirus]

Rookie Of The Year: Horford.
MVP: Paul/Kobe(I hate to admit it, but the dude has really been on this year.)
Coach Of The Year: Phil Jackson (F**k Doc Rivers, He isn't the reason that team has done so well)

[Nightmare]

Last i checked David West made the all star team. Who on the lakers besides kobe did??? HMMMMMMMMMMMM???

[Ben Urich]

Rookie Of The Year: Horford.
MVP: Paul/Kobe(I hate to admit it, but the dude has really been on this year.)
Coach Of The Year: Phil Jackson (F**k Doc Rivers, He isn't the reason that team has done so well)

The same could be said for Phil Jackson. :huh:

Last i checked David West made the all star team. Who on the lakers besides kobe did??? HMMMMMMMMMMMM???

Pau Gasol is better than David West.

[Raiden]

Pau Gasol is better than David West.

Nevertheless, this defeats the myth that Chris Paul is the only good player on his team. Face it, Hornets are talented and CP3 isn't the only reason why they are good this year.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Same can be said for The Lakers.

[Docker2.0]

Nevertheless, this defeats the myth that Chris Paul is the only good player on his team. Face it, Hornets are talented and CP3 isn't the only reason why they are good this year.

The same thing can be said of the Lakers. :huh: Paul actually has better numbers, a younger team, and while the Hornets are talented, the Lakers as a team are more talented.

[L.A.]

And lets not forget that hornets have one of the worst benches in the league!

[DarthRekal]

Pau Gasol is better than David West.

hmmmm Pau has only been playing with us since feb.... :huh:
and missed a month with an injury... so we had him for TWO MONTHS :huh:

also Peja.. West.. Chandler... those are no slouches

Bonzi is no slouch either... Paul has talent...

Kobe sans Gasol.. has the same team he's been playing with for years... you are saying the team that got bounced in the first for the last two years and didnt even make the playoffs the year before that is better than the hornets... and NOT because of Kobe.. yeah.. i buy that:whatever:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

You just said it yourself, The Lakers sans Gasol is the same team that has been getting bounced, they had Kobe then and now as well. Gasol was the addition.

[DarthRekal]

You just said it yourself, The Lakers sans Gasol is the same team that has been getting bounced, they had Kobe then and now as well. Gasol was the addition.
so gasol playing for two months out of the year makes a 1 seed in the west??? yeah:whatever:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Did I say that? You put that in there, I was simply stating that you pointed out that Kobe has been there the same as the rest of the team.

[DarthRekal]

Did I say that? You put that in there, I was simply stating that you pointed out that Kobe has been there the same as the rest of the team.
im also saying for the THIRD time... that gasol only played for two months.. and that we still had to play the rest of the season without him... so the Gasol is the reason we are BETTER or the 1 seed is moot and a$$enine... mind you we THUMPED on UTAH at HOME without GASOL we WON alot of games WITHOUT GASOL.... we have a WINNING RECORD against PLAYOFF teams WITHOUT GASOL...

get off the GASOL trip... yes he made us better... but he didnt impact this team as much as KOBE's play did

[DarthRekal]

Can we do our Eastern Teams now???


Boston vs Atlanta
BOS, BOS, BOS, BOS


Detroit vs Philadelphia
DET, DET, PHI, PHI, DET, DET

Orlando vs Toronto
ORL, TOR, ORL, TOR, ORL, TOR, ORL

Cleveland vs Washington
WAS, CLE, CLE, WAS, WAS, CLE, CLE

[Bond]

Have we started the pool yet?

[Docker2.0]

Well Love is going pro. How is this dude a lottery pick? What position is going to play?

Why is Barkley calling out Washington? They wanted Cleveland and got them. I actually believe Washington will beat Cleveland in 6. That's right! I said it! Washington in 6!

[DarthRekal]

Well Love is going pro. How is this dude a lottery pick? What position is going to play?

Why is Barkley calling out Washington? They wanted Cleveland and got them. I actually believe Washington will beat Cleveland in 6. That's right! I said it! Washington in 6!
are you in the pool?

[Docker2.0]

Yes sir. I plan to make my picks tomorrow when everything is locked.

[NewYorkSpider]

I want everyone to send me thier picks via PM. Then when I have everyone's, I'll post them before the games start.

[DarthRekal]

NYSpidey.... you didnt pick the Lakers to win it all did you ??:huh:

[DBella]

I want everyone to send me thier picks via PM. Then when I have everyone's, I'll post them before the games start.
NYS, do you still plan on sending reminder PMs to everyone taking part in the pool?

[CrypticOne]

I want everyone to send me thier picks via PM. Then when I have everyone's, I'll post them before the games start.

Did you get my picks?

[Docker2.0]

Boston vs. Atlanta

Bos, Bos, Bos, Bos

Detroit vs. Philadelphia

Det, Det, Phil, Det, Det

Orlando vs. Toronto

Tor, Orl, Tor, Orl, Orl, Orl

Cleveland vs. Washington

Was, Cleveland, Was, Was, Cleveland, Was

There it is peeps! The man has spoken. So it is written, so it shall come to pass. :o

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Can we do our Eastern Teams now???


Boston vs Atlanta
BOS, BOS, BOS, BOS


Detroit vs Philadelphia
DET, DET, PHI, PHI, DET, DET

Orlando vs Toronto
ORL, TOR, ORL, TOR, ORL, TOR, ORL

Cleveland vs Washington
WAS, CLE, CLE, WAS, WAS, CLE, CLE

The seeds are not set for sure in the East yet.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I want everyone to send me thier picks via PM. Then when I have everyone's, I'll post them before the games start.


Can't we just post them in here?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

im also saying for the THIRD time... that gasol only played for two months.. and that we still had to play the rest of the season without him... so the Gasol is the reason we are BETTER or the 1 seed is moot and a$$enine... mind you we THUMPED on UTAH at HOME without GASOL we WON alot of games WITHOUT GASOL.... we have a WINNING RECORD against PLAYOFF teams WITHOUT GASOL...

get off the GASOL trip... yes he made us better... but he didnt impact this team as much as KOBE's play did

I am not saying Gasol is the reason, I was simply pointing out that Kobe had been there just as the rest of the team when you made your statement and was not part of a change to be the obvious clear cut difference why the Lakers are better.

That said, I am not saying he isn't. I would just like Paul to get it, do I have a problem with Kobe getting it? Not, at, all. He is the best player in the league and has improved as a basketball player overall this year.

I am just saying that I think Chris Paul is just as valuable to his team as Kobe is to his.

[Docker2.0]

The seeds are not set for sure in the East yet.
They are set. :huh:

[NewYorkSpider]

NYSpidey.... you didnt pick the Lakers to win it all did you ??:huh:

No. I had Boston/Phoenix in the finals.

NYS, do you still plan on sending reminder PMs to everyone taking part in the pool?

Yes. When the playoffs are set I'll send everyone a reminder.

Did you get my picks?

Yes.

Can't we just post them in here?

I'd rather have you send me a PM. I can keep track of them easier. I'll post everyone's picks when I get them all.

[Docker2.0]

Do I have to pm them to you? I Just posted them out here. I will def pm you the west though.

[NewYorkSpider]

Do I have to pm them to you? I Just posted them out here. I will def pm you the west though.

Just copy your east picks and post them in the PM. It makes things so much easier for me. This way I don't have to go looking through pages for everyones picks. Thank you.

[Bond]

**** yea!!! Mavs beat the Hornets, Kidd got his 100th triple-double, and I think the Hornets might have some trouble in the playoffs against us. :yay:

And I love these new play-off commercials! They had one with Kidd and Nash and it was awesome.

[Bond]

yQkVa9HnQyo

:yay:

[CrypticOne]

Yeah, the new commercials are pretty awesome, and creative. I liked the Kobe/Shaq one.

[Bond]

Yea, the Kobe/Shaq one is good.

Dirk reportedly shot one too, hope it's Dirk/Gasol. :up:

[CrypticOne]

So, how are the Western playoffs going to play out? Who's going to face who?