Official 2007-08 NBA Thread

[Fran]

I'd like to see the Suns win it, just because I feel like Grant deserves a ring.

[Ben Urich]

Yeah, Noc (pronounced "Noach") is a restricted free-agent.

Hear me out, MC, but it might be good if he leaves the Bulls. Then you'd have enough cap space to sign Darko in the $8-10 million range, which is what he's asking for. You remember Darko, right? The guy who dropped 14 points, 10 rebounds, and 5 blocks in your building last season? ****, that game was awesome. Dwight Howard and Darko combined to outrebound the entire Bulls team. :huh::wow::up:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2007-02/28126973.jpg

:yay:

[Mister J]

Bucks Not Budging In Yi Saga (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/marty_burns/07/05/yi.bucks/)
"We're not trading him," Harris told SI.com. "We like him and we think this is a great opportunity for him. He'll get a chance to play a lot of minutes right away for a good team. What more could [he] want?"
So far the Bucks haven't heard from Yi at all. They have tried to reach out to him, but his handlers have declined the invitation. Not even a personal letter from Bucks owner Herb Kohl -- who happens to be a U.S. senator -- has been enough to persuade Yi.
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/6545/lolxj8.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[Ben Urich]

Morons. :whatever:
He's not coming to Milwaukee and now you're going to get seventy-five cents on the dollar for him. :down

[Fran]

Good Lord, the Bucks are retarded!

[Ben Urich]

Thing is, they aren't that bad a team. They have the misfortunes of being injury-plagued AND playing in the toughest division in the East.

[Jerry!]

Yeah, Noc (pronounced "Noach") is a restricted free-agent.

Hear me out, MC, but it might be good if he leaves the Bulls. Then you'd have enough cap space to sign Darko in the $8-10 million range, which is what he's asking for. You remember Darko, right? The guy who dropped 14 points, 10 rebounds, and 5 blocks in your building last season? ****, that game was awesome. Dwight Howard and Darko combined to outrebound the entire Bulls team. :huh::wow::up:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2007-02/28126973.jpg

:yay:

Well seeing as the Bulls were the top rebounding team in the East last year, I don't think they need that much help in that respect, especially now with Noah and Thomas as he continues to improve. Its hard to go off one game. I remember when Wallace had a 20 point game last season, you know he isn't that good to be like consistently, it was a fluke. Nocioni, when healthy, is a good, tough player. I would hope the Bulls keep him or trade him, don't just let him sign with another team.

[Ben Urich]

Well seeing as the Bulls were the top rebounding team in the East last year, I don't think they need that much help in that respect, especially now with Noah and Thomas as he continues to improve. Its hard to go off one game. I remember when Wallace had a 20 point game last season, you know he isn't that good to be like consistently, it was a fluke. Nocioni, when healthy, is a good, tough player. I would hope the Bulls keep him or trade him, don't just let him sign with another team.

The Bulls don't need the rebounding help, but they do need a guy who can score down low. Darko can do that.
We aren't even having this discussion if Noc didn't get plantar faciatis. That has to concern the Bulls and any other potential suitors.

[Ghostvirus]

The Bulls don't need the rebounding help, but they do need a guy who can score down low. Darko can do that.
We aren't even having this discussion if Noc didn't get plantar faciatis. That has to concern the Bulls and any other potential suitors.

If Nocioni goes, & Darko comes in. Then it will be worth it. But only if Darko comes in. I will still miss Nocioni though. He is a good hard working player. That doesn't deserve to be lost in the hell that is the Grizziles.

[NewYorkSpider]

The Cavaliers are going to have to make a tough decision on Anderson Varejao. If he brings back an offer sheet for more than the mid-level exception, they will try to work a sign-and-trade deal for him. Additionally, the Cavs may pursue Morris Peterson.


Peterson didn't do all that bad with the Raptors last season. I did a player comparison and Varejao had the better numbers, but something needs to change.

[moraldeficiency]

Kobe the master of covering his ass while saying nothing:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6996052?MSNHPHMA

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Although he didn't rescind his trade request, Kobe Bryant softened his stance somewhat Thursday night, saying he had apologized to Los Angeles Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak in person for the way he handled his upset feelings five weeks ago.

"I just felt like as a man, it was important for me to tell him, 'I'm sorry it came out that way,"' Bryant said at a lightly attended news conference at Loyola Marymount, where he spoke mainly about his camp for youngsters at the school this week.
Bryant said that while he could have called Kupchak, it was important he speak with him face-to-face.

"I was frustrated, I was venting," Bryant said.

When asked whether he still wanted out, Bryant replied: "I haven't thought about that in a long, long time. I've kind of stepped away from that. I've concentrated on Team USA. What I say is what I say. We'll just have to see where it goes."

The U.S. national team begins practice July 20 in Las Vegas.

Bryant, the NBA's leading scorer the past two seasons, complained about a lack of talent around him at season's end, and said May 30 he wanted to be traded, adding nothing could change his mind.

Despite that request, the Lakers have made clear that trading Bryant isn't in their plans. Bryant is owed $88.6 million over the next four seasons, but could terminate his contract in two years.

The Lakers haven't won a playoff series since reaching the NBA finals in 2004 for the fourth time in five years. With Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal leading the way, they won three straight championships from 2000-02.

O'Neal was traded to Miami in July 2004, a day before Bryant signed a seven-year, $136.4 million contract to remain with the Lakers, who haven't won a playoff series since O'Neal left.

Bryant said he hasn't spoken with Derek Fisher since Monday, when Fisher was released by the Utah Jazz so he can concentrate on finding the best care for his 11-month-old daughter, who has cancer in her left eye.

Fisher said he wants to live in one of the six or seven cities being considered for Tatum's care. Bryant and Fisher were teammates and, from all indications, good friends while playing with the Lakers from 1996-2004 - the first eight seasons of their NBA careers.

Kupchak didn't rule out the possibility of a return to the Lakers for Fisher, who signed with Golden State as a free agent after the 2003-04 season and was later traded to Utah.

Bryant said 450 kids aged 8-to-18 attended his camp.

[rdh007]

Did Stephon Marbury really make out with his sister?

I think he was talking about his daughter, but his lack of, well, linguistic ability makes it unclear.

Also, I'm a white guy who only played high school basketball in the midwest, but dimes are the same thing as assists, correct?

_yTjebH2fLU

[Lobo]

So, where do you fellas think Artest will end up?

[moraldeficiency]

So, where do you fellas think Artest will end up?

Eventually hell, but for the moment I'm not too sure.

[Ben Urich]

Did Stephon Marbury really make out with his sister?

I think he was talking about his daughter, but his lack of, well, linguistic ability makes it unclear.

Also, I'm a white guy who only played high school basketball in the midwest, but dimes are the same thing as assists, correct?

_yTjebH2fLU

Yeah, dimes are assists. Don't know what's up with Starbury there. :huh:

[Lobo]

Marbs was drunk and tha vid is greta :D

[Jerry!]

Andres Nocioni signs 5 year deal with the Bulls.

[Ghostvirus]

Andres Nocioni signs 5 year deal with the Bulls.

Yeah, thats right b**ch! You better know your role.:cmad:

Now be a good little b**ch, & reverse woo Gasol to Chicago! Stat!:cmad:

[MakeMineMarvel]

Just saw that. I knew that was going to have to happen. There was no way the Grizz would put together an offer that would be so big that Pax wouldn't match it and Noc expressed no interest in going to Memphis.

Orlando can still keep Darko if they move some salaries. Turkoglu's skills chair the department of redundancy department in Orlando now that Lewis is there. Goodbye. Toss in Arroyo to somebody who can give them back a non-guaranteed contract and bingo - almost $10 mil for Darko.

The Bulls still have the mid-level exception and by not retaining P.J. Brown and maybe jettisoning Duhon, might be able to get Darko in Chicago. I prefer him over Joe Smith, who was in town recently.

[Ben Urich]

Just saw that. I knew that was going to have to happen. There was no way the Grizz would put together an offer that would be so big that Pax wouldn't match it and Noc expressed no interest in going to Memphis.

Orlando can still keep Darko if they move some salaries. Turkoglu's skills chair the department of redundancy department in Orlando now that Lewis is there. Goodbye. Toss in Arroyo to somebody who can give them back a non-guaranteed contract and bingo - almost $10 mil for Darko.

The Bulls still have the mid-level exception and by not retaining P.J. Brown and maybe jettisoning Duhon, might be able to get Darko in Chicago. I prefer him over Joe Smith, who was in town recently.

The Magic could still keep Darko, but his agent won't let him play for them. It's his loss; Orlando is his best fit, and they could have paid him if he had been patient. But no, his agent was pissed because they talked to Rashard Lewis first. :whatever:

[Ben Urich]

Billups is returning to Detroit

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2928321

[Ghostvirus]

The Magic could still keep Darko, but his agent won't let him play for them. It's his loss; Orlando is his best fit, and they could have paid him if he had been patient. But no, his agent was pissed because they talked to Rashard Lewis first. :whatever:

So Darko can't think for himself?:dry:

Billups is returning to Detroit

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2928321

No sh**. I think that is a bad move. Detroit is on its way down.

[Ben Urich]

So Darko can't think for himself?:dry:

Apparently, when his agent told him the Magic didn't call him at 12:01, Darko made up his mind that he wasn't wanted in Orlando. :huh: So it's not just his agent being an idiot. :whatever:

[Ghostvirus]

Um...I am not sure I want this guy in Chicago now. He sounds like a handful.

[Fran]

So Darko can't think for himself?:dry:



No sh**. I think that is a bad move. Detroit is on its way down.

Detroit is the only team that was, well, good enough for him to stay. Milwaukee and Memphis were the only ones who had room, and they suck. :dry:

[Ben Urich]

Detroit is the only team that was, well, good enough for him to stay. Milwaukee and Memphis were the only ones who had room, and they suck. :dry:

C'mon, you don't want to see Billups make entry passes to Andrew Bogut for the next five years? :dry:

[Fran]

I'd rather see the Spurs 10-peat.

[Ben Urich]

I'd rather see the Spurs 10-peat.

Come over here right now.
Grab your things. You are moving out of this house. NOW. :cmad:
I can't believe I slept with you. :csad: HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME?! :hormones:

[Fran]

I wish I could quit you! :csad:

[Ben Urich]

Carlos Arroyo seems to think the Magic are trading for Ron Artest. (http://thirdquartercollapse.blogspot.com/2007/07/carlos-arroyo-spices-up-artest-for.html) :huh:
I wish I could quit you! :csad:
:csad:

[Ghostvirus]

Damn,:dry: Brokeback Basketball up in herrr.

[L.A.]

http://photo6.hexun.com/p/2007/0707/110431/b_418147C024DF87735CEA18CD1421384E.jpg


wow, is it me or that looks like Dirk stuff? If he continuously makes that move, that is one shot that nobody can stop, type of shots ppl hope that he will just miss.
http://photo6.hexun.com/p/2007/0707/110431/b_767FC4B494704B54DB0C982CCD6987DB.jpg

I think that's the type of move that proves to the doubters that he has a high Offensive IQ.

[Trainwreck2100]

I'd rather see the Spurs 10-peat.


no chance,


duncan will retire before that.

Would a 7-peat be ok?

[Ben Urich]

J, how do you feel about Pat Riley taking Mo Williams out to dinner last night? :huh:

[Mister J]

Isn't that a question better asked of Mrs. Riley? :o
HIYOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Williams would be an upgrade, but in all likelihood, he's going to run more than the MLE. If that lessens the probability of getting some help in the frontcourt, I think it's wasteful. Miami just needs a PG that can handle the ball, trigger the offense and knock down an open shot. Williams' price tag seems like overkill, especially seeing as how His Wadeness will be running the show and creating in the clutch. The need for a small forward is a more pressing one. Whether they get it done in the offseason or via trade later on, I don't care, but a quality PG isn't going to fix everything.

[Ben Urich]

I think center is their biggest area of need. If 'Zo retires, the Heat will have the Diesel, Michael Doleac, and Earl FREAKING Barron in the middle. Yikes.
The Heat would fare just as well if they signed Steve Blake or Brevin Knight. :o

[L.A.]

Here's Yi making the game winning shot against Clevland in the summer league today!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbS0DbhN7xs

[Ghostvirus]

Godamnit! Paxson Do Something. Please!!! I Am About To Snap!!!

[L.A.]

http://photo6.hexun.com/p/2007/0707/110466/b_C0A2670AF2CB490B6C83DEEF43CD5570.jpg

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http://photo6.hexun.com/p/2007/0707/110431/b_1054C15F3178535A3A97823C33C9773D.jpg

http://photo6.hexun.com/p/2007/0707/110434/b_4A48460FD62DEF211183C944BB14F385.jpg


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http://photo6.hexun.com/p/2007/0707/110431/b_F3B1A6409C2ED38564DC2A81E27142E7.jpg

[Ben Urich]

Antoine Walker robbed at gunpoint in his Chicago home:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2931152

[L.A.]

damn thass ****ed up...glad he is ok...

heard they had him on the floor like this:

http://tinypic.com/2rbz49f.gif

[LastSunrise1981]

OG3PhdFK-M

I was in a Larry Bird mood and decided to look up some Youtube videos of one of the greatest basketball players of all time. The first video is a chronicle look at all of the clutch shots/buzzer beaters, which includes some stories from the players and coaches who witnessed them.

Larry: You guys want to win the game?

Carr-:Looks to the other guys:: Yeah, sure.

Larry- Then give me the ball and get out of the way.

[AhabTheArab]

is there any word on rudy fernandez? have the blazers signed him... is he going to play this year or next... and is he going to be at summer league?

[Ben Urich]

Darko and the Magic have broken off discussions, ending any chance that he'll return to Orlando.

My take on it is here (http://thirdquartercollapse.blogspot.com/2007/07/end-of-era-such-as-it-was-darko-milicic.html).


is there any word on rudy fernandez? have the blazers signed him... is he going to play this year or next... and is he going to be at summer league?

He won't be with them this year.

[Ben Urich]

Channing Frye on what he brings to the Blazers:
I bring everything...a little personality, a little leadership, a little shooting, a little defense. I'm a buffet of goodness.
:woot:

[Fran]

I want KG! :cmad:

-20,000. :up:

[bananafish]

How are your guys' favorite teams doing in summer league?

The Wizards lost today against the Kings 64-75. Nick Young (first rounder this year) seemed to be sharing everybody else's first game jitters, shotting pretty badly. But he is really athletic, has got a good handle and can create separation. Dominic McGuire (second rounder this year) showed a lotta promise and talent. He was really active both offensively and defensively. Oleksiy Pecherov (first rounder last year) has a good shot, but seemed to be parking out on the perimeter. Decent rebounder though.

Also, Juan Carlos Navarro (40th pick in the 2002 draft) is finally going to playing in the NBA next year. Supposedly the best eligible guard not playing the NBA right now. He might not be playing for the Wizards though, cause he's getting shopped along with Etan Thomas and that hideous contract of his to a number of teams (Memphis (he's friends with Pau Gasol), Miami and the Cavs are a few of them).

[Ben Urich]

The Magic are 2-0. J.J. Redick and James Augustine have looked nice, and Marcin Gortat is making a strong case for a roster spot. :word:

[Fran]

Dunno the Pistons record, but I saw that Rodney Stuckey was getting around 25.0 PPG. Not too bad :up:

[Ben Urich]

Enjoy him, pal. :cmad:

:csad:

[DarthRekal]

yay we got d fish!:dry:




****in mindless organization!:cmad:

[NewYorkSpider]

Greg_Oden (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-trailblazers-oden&prov=ap&type=lgns) to have tonsils out.:dry:

[Ben Urich]

Magic and Sonics agree to sign-and-trade
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=orlandosummerleaguesday2
Rashard Lewis' deal is now for six years and $126.4 million. :dry:

[Trainwreck2100]

Magic and Sonics agree to sign-and-trade
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=orlandosummerleaguesday2
Rashard Lewis' deal is now for six years and $126.4 million. :dry:


well, that's not good

[Ben Urich]

$15 million for a one-time all-star was a bit of a reach. $21 million.... that's a BIG ****in' reach.

[Mister J]

Good Lord. The price tag was questionable enough when it was 15M, but 21M? Good Gosh Almighty Joe Friday.

[Ben Urich]

Good Lord. The price tag was questionable enough when it was 15M, but 21M? Good Gosh Almighty Joe Friday.

We're going to have to dump a ton of salary to make it work. :csad:

[Mister J]

I'm all in favor of pursuing high profile acquisitions to strengthen a ball club, but what the **** is Otis smoking? That's just too much.

[Ben Urich]

Dwight's gonna sign a five-year, $85 million extension sometime this week. Lewis and Howard, on average, will make a combined $38 million a season. The cap changes from year to year, but that total is well over half of it. :dry:

[Mister J]

17M for Howard? That's chump change compared to Big Money Grip Lewis. Dwight's agent is slacking. :o

[Ben Urich]

17M for Howard? That's chump change compared to Big Money Grip Lewis. Dwight's agent is slacking. :o

He'll get another extension in four years. If all goes well, he'll be commanding Shaq-like money. :word:
So it'll be Lewis, Howard, and whomever Otis finds at the RDV practice courts. :dry:

[Ben Urich]

Also, ESPNEWS just reported that the Blazers bought out Steve Francis' $36 million contract for $30 million. He's now an unrestricted free-agent.

I wish I could be awful enough at what I do so my company would pay me $30 million to get the **** out. :down

[Ghostvirus]

yay we got d fish!:dry:




****in mindless organization!:cmad:

Isn't that like the 18 millionth time Fisher has been on the Laker's?:huh:

[Ben Urich]

Darko to the Grizzlies. :huh:

[Fran]

I was kinda "WTF?" with that news too. :huh:

[Ben Urich]

Does this make them contenders? :huh:

[Fran]

I think they forgot that Pau Gasol is still a Grizzly :o

[Ben Urich]

Gasol, Darko, Gay, Miller, and a bionic fusion of Mike Conley and Kyle Lowry.

Playoffs, baby. :cmad::up:















:o

[Fran]

heh, Gay

[L.A.]

Gasol, Darko, Gay, Miller, and a bionic fusion of Mike Conley and Kyle Lowry.

Playoffs, baby. :cmad::up:















:o
not good enough! This is a 30-35 win team.

[L.A.]

"Pritchard said he was pleased with the Francis buyout, which is believed to be around $30 million. The Blazers negotiated a 50 percent offset in the deal, meaning the team will get 50 percent cap relief from whatever Francis earns in the next two years. It is believed Francis will sign a two-year deal with the Los Angeles Clippers, probably for around $1 million this year and around $5 million next season. That means the Blazers will save about $3 million."

[fu manchu]

Isn't that like the 18 millionth time Fisher has been on the Laker's?:huh:

i wonder if that will make Kobe happy???

[Ben Urich]

Kobe + Odom = first-round playoff exit
Kobe + D-Fish = WORLD CHAMPIONS.

:o

[L.A.]

i wonder if that will make Kobe happy???
Yes because fisher is the last piece for the lakers to become champions again!!!:huh:

[Ben Urich]

Kobe + Odom = first-round playoff exit
Kobe + D-Fish = WORLD CHAMPIONS.

:o

[Fran]

Ben Urich + Hype lag = DOUBLE POST.

:o

[Mister J]

Gerald Wallace is expected to sign a 6Y/57M deal to stay with Charlotte. :down

Riley, Pfund; go get me Mo. Use J-Will's (and maybe Doleac's) expiring deal to bring in a forward before the trading deadline, but go get me Mo.

[fu manchu]

Kobe + Odom = first-round playoff exit
Kobe + D-Fish = WORLD CHAMPIONS.

:o

Yes because fisher is the last piece for the lakers to become champions again!!!:huh:


yea, definately. they will be a dynasty, i predict. :yay:

[Ben Urich]

Rashard Lewis' deal is worth more than Vince Carter's and Chauncey Billups' combined. :dry:

Ben Urich + Hype lag = DOUBLE POST.

:o

Fireworks + Teenage miscreants + fran's car = PWN.

:o

Gerald Wallace is expected to sign a 6Y/57M deal to stay with Charlotte. :down

Riley, Pfund; go get me Mo. Use J-Will's (and maybe Doleac's) expiring deal to bring in a forward before the trading deadline, but go get me Mo.

I'm legitimately scared of Charlotte. You should be, too.

[Fran]

fran's camera + car seats = POLICE REPORT FILED.

[Ben Urich]

The long arm of the law. :o

[AhabTheArab]

dont you have fireworks insurance?

[nolan's roll'n]

Grizzlies sign C Milicic

[nolan's roll'n]

Billups resigns with Pistons.

[nolan's roll'n]

Suns get Rudy Fernandez and 1st round pick for James Jones.

[nolan's roll'n]

Jason Kapono signs with Raptors.

[Ghostvirus]

Bulls still ain't doing sh**.

[nolan's roll'n]

Bulls still ain't doing sh**.
Yeah I thought that'd trade their 9th 1st round pick I forgot his name but they could trade him or Luol Deng for Pau Gasol.

[L.A.]

Yeah I thought that'd trade their 9th 1st round pick I forgot his name but they could trade him or Luol Deng for Pau Gasol.
Horrible trade for the Grizz. You already have Rudy who's going to be an All Star. You need help at the SG position!

[Ben Urich]

Grizzlies sign C Milicic

Billups resigns with Pistons.

Suns get Rudy Fernandez and 1st round pick for James Jones.

Jason Kapono signs with Raptors.

Welcome to last week. :huh:

[DarthRekal]

I'm legitimately scared of Charlotte. You should be, too.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.. i already jumped on the Bobcats bandwagon.. check a few pages back... GET OFF!:cmad: :hyper:

[Ghostvirus]

Don't fear the Bobcats people. That FEAR you smell is just residue from Jordan. No worries the team still blows harder than Paris Hilton when a man is in reach.

[DarthRekal]

Bulls and Lakers still ain't doing sh**.

Fixed :csad:

[Ben Urich]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.. i already jumped on the Bobcats bandwagon.. check a few pages back... GET OFF!:cmad: :hyper:

I've been a Bobcats fan since I actually watched them play a few months ago. Gerald Wallace? Walter Herrmann? Are you kidding me? As Bill Simmons said, it's like someone took a fantasy team and gave them uniforms, fans, and an arena.

[Ben Urich]

Also, it's hilarious to me how people find my blog. Earlier today, got there by Googling this phrase (http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=otis+smith+not+qualified+to+be+gm&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8). :woot:

[The Riddler]

rockets just pulled off one of the biggest steals of the offseason.

[Jerry!]

That being......

[Ben Urich]

Trading Vassilis Spanoulis to the Spurs for Jackie Butler and Luis Scola.

[Jerry!]

NO!! GODAMMIT PAXSON!! WHAT ARE YOU DOIN...ahhh just kidding Pax, I have no idea who the **** they, you're alright on this one.

[Trainwreck2100]

POS cap clearing trade.

[Ben Urich]

I doubt the Spurs will miss Butler that much. And they still have Splitter in Brazil, so I don't think they'll miss Scola. At worst, it's a lateral move. When you're the Champions of the World, you can afford to make lateral moves.

[bananafish]

Scola is supposed to be a pretty decent PF/C prospect. And is possibly going to come to the NBA this year. No source for that, just from reading other boards. And on RealGM, most on the Rockets board are guessing if Scola does indeed come over, he'd be their starting PF. So for a guy (Spanoulis, what with Mike James, Aaron Brooks, Rafer Alston and even John Lucas III) that was on the fringes of even being on the team, that's a pretty sweet deal.

[The Riddler]

scola is known as one if not the best player not playing in the nba. scola plays on the same team oberto, ginobili and splitter play(ed) on and he is better than oberto and splitter.

also, butler is still really young and can grow into a backup role behind yao.

vassilis spanoulis is never playing in america again, and so this was a money, roster clearing move by the spurs.

the move is incredibly one sided since it just gives a division rival their biggest need for essentially nothing in return.

[Ben Urich]

Today's free-agency news:

Steve Blake (back) to Portland.


Chucky Atkins to Denver.

Morris Peterson to New Orleans.

D-Fish to L.A.
Wow. :dry:

[Mister J]

That Blake news hurt me. I think Mo Williams would have signed with the Heat by now if it were going to happen. The numbers aren't close (I've even read where the Bucks upped their offer to 6Y/51M) so it's a simple matter of whether you want to get paid or have a chance to compete. I think he's just trying to jack up the offer from Milwaukee and Option #2 just signed with Portland.
****. Looks like we'll be running pretty much the same roster from last year until (hopefully) the trading deadline.

Did I say **** already? :down

[Ghostvirus]

That Blake news hurt me. I think Mo Williams would have signed with the Heat by now if it were going to happen. The numbers aren't close (I've even read where the Bucks upped their offer to 6Y/51M) so it's a simple matter of whether you want to get paid or have a chance to compete. I think he's just trying to jack up the offer from Milwaukee and Option #2 just signed with Portland.
****. Looks like we'll be running pretty much the same roster from last year until (hopefully) the trading deadline.

Did I say **** already? :down

The Heat were riddled with bad luck last year. Them having the same roster isn't really a bad thing, or a good thing. It is just a wait, & see thing. Hopefully they can have better luck than last year.

[Ben Urich]

Brevin Knight, man. I'm telling you.
I also read that Travis Diener is an option. Marquette backcourt for the win!

[L.A.]

I like the Hornets picking up Mo Pete! Damn the west just keeps getting better!:eek:

[Mister J]

The Heat were riddled with bad luck last year. Them having the same roster isn't really a bad thing, or a good thing. It is just a wait, & see thing. Hopefully they can have better luck than last year.
It is a wait and see kinda deal. Depends on hunger and effort, which has been a toss-up since this current incarnation was put together. That 'we'll turn it on when needed' **** can't fly anymore. Outside of that, there are a couple of holes and I am/was hoping to see at least one get filled before the season starts.

It isn't possible to have worse luck than last year.
(I hope) :(
Brevin Knight, man. I'm telling you.
I also read that Travis Diener is an option. Marquette backcourt for the win!
I read about the Diener thing and immediately thought of taking a season-ending asskicking at the hands of Kansas. Come to think of it, that bastard Kirk Hinrich was there for that. I don't like the parallelism at all. :down

[Ben Urich]

This Hornets blogger wears the same rose-colored glasses as GR87. :o
http://www.hornets247.com/post.php?id=288

Moving on, let's consider the Hornets starting five next season, ignoring the inevitable injuries of course...

Chris Paul
Morris Peterson
Peja Stojakovic
David West
Tyson Chandler

Oh man, that lineup makes me want to hug strangers. Throw Hilton Armstrong, Julian Wright, Rasual Butler, Bobby Jackson and Cedric Simmons into the mix, and we could be on to something here.


:dry:

[Fran]

I lost a few brain cells jsut now.

[The Dude]

about the Diener thing and immediately thought of taking a season-ending asskicking at the hands of Kansas. Come to think of it, that bastard Kirk Hinrich was there for that. I don't like the parallelism at all. :down

I'm still trying to forget that.:csad: Now all the memories are comming back.

[Ghostvirus]

It is a wait and see kinda deal. Depends on hunger and effort, which has been a toss-up since this current incarnation was put together. That 'we'll turn it on when needed' **** can't fly anymore. Outside of that, there are a couple of holes and I am/was hoping to see at least one get filled before the season starts.

It isn't possible to have worse luck than last year.
(I hope) :(


The Heat really do need to start thinking about getting a trainee center. Someone Shaq can pass his wisdom off to. Also a point guard would be nice.

[L.A.]

This Hornets blogger wears the same rose-colored glasses as GR87. :o
http://www.hornets247.com/post.php?id=288


:dry:
Thats a pretty good starting five! Playoffs next year!

[AhabTheArab]

Thats a pretty good starting five! Playoffs next year!


who would they possibly replace from this year? golden state? because i doubt it.

[Ben Urich]

The Heat really do need to start thinking about getting a trainee center. Someone Shaq can pass his wisdom off to. Also a point guard would be nice.

What, you don't like Earl Barron? :o

[L.A.]

who would they possibly replace from this year? golden state? because i doubt it.
They were like two games back from the 8th spot and pretty much everyone was injured! If they stay healty, they will be in. I think the Lakers will be out:(

[Ben Urich]

Mikki Moore to Sacramento.

Dude's going to average 7 and 5 if he's lucky. Mike Bibby is not Jason Kidd.

[The Riddler]

They were like two games back from the 8th spot and pretty much everyone was injured! If they stay healty, they will be in. I think the Lakers will be out:(

kobe > hornets.

[L.A.]

kobe > hornets.
lol One man cant do it all! Kobe has proven that.

[The Riddler]

lol One man cant do it all! Kobe has proven that.
seriously, the hornets look good on paper, but peja may not be the peja of old and morris peterson is a nice player, but nothing that will significantly alter the team's future.

if peja is peja, and peterson contributes more than marginally, they will be a playoff team.

[Ben Urich]

Mo Pete is overrated. Like, the Hornets adding him means nothing at all. He's not the missing piece or anything. If nothing else, he's replacing Devin Brown.

[LastSunrise1981]

Seems like NBA news has been pretty slow. The only real "blockbuster" signing that happened was Rashard Lewis going to Orlando. Any updates on Garnett and Kobe's situation?

And what in the world made Fisher want to go back to L.A.? Granted he's a decent defender that frustrates the offense, he can make key shots, and is a player with a big heart that shows in his play. L.A. is going to need more than him to even think about getting to the championship.

I will say had L.A. kept Fisher when they faced Phoenix in 2006 they would've won the series for sure. Fisher is the type of defender that can slow down and frustrate the quicker and more athletic point guards.

Here is a video of an historic NBA moment.

OLQl7UJOYUs

I'm sure the first video will bring a smile to Maximum Carnage's face and a smile to everyone. It was definitely a moment and a game to remember.

[Ben Urich]

Seems like NBA news has been pretty slow. The only real "blockbuster" signing that happened was Rashard Lewis going to Orlando. Any updates on Garnett and Kobe's situation?

And what in the world made Fisher want to go back to L.A.? Granted he's a decent defender that frustrates the offense, he can make key shots, and is a player with a big heart that shows in his play. L.A. is going to need more than him to even think about getting to the championship.

I will say had L.A. kept Fisher when they faced Phoenix in 2006 they would've won the series for sure. Fisher is the type of defender that can slow down and frustrate the quicker and more athletic point guards.

Here is a video of an historic NBA moment.

OLQl7UJOYUs

I'm sure the first video will bring a smile to Maximum Carnage's face and a smile to everyone. It was definitely a moment and a game to remember.

That video kills me. I was a die-hard Jazz fan. :csad:
I weep for my childhood. :csad:

[L.A.]

Hey who do you guys think are the Dark Horse for ROY??? I know Durant and Oden are the favs but other than those two who do you like?

I like the Clips rookie Al Thornton! He's been lighting it up in the Summer leage averaging 19ppg 7rpg! He reminds me of a more stronger and more intense Paul Perice!!!

I mean damn just look at this dunk!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBBBw3OoFrQ

[LastSunrise1981]

That video kills me. I was a die-hard Jazz fan. :csad:
I weep for my childhood. :csad:

Orlando did beat Chicago in 6 games once. :cwink: :yay: :woot:

[Ben Urich]

Orlando did beat Chicago in 6 games once. :cwink: :yay: :woot:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/news/2001/03/07/sayitaintso_magic/shaqpenny_big.jpg
:csad:

EDIT: lol @ Grant Hill in the second photo. What a coincidence. :csad:

[Ghostvirus]

Orlando did beat Chicago in 6 games once. :cwink: :yay: :woot:

But Chicago beat Orland in 4 the next year so... I don't know what that means, but it is something.:o

[LastSunrise1981]

But Chicago beat Orland in 4 the next year so... I don't know what that means, but it is something.:o

Very true. I just said that to lift up Ben's spirits a little bit. It was all in good fun really.

[DarthRekal]

i know y'all miss me.. but i cant stand this offseason:cmad:



i just dropped in to say

Kobe can kiss my A$$!


and the Lakers FO can SUCK IT!:cmad:

[Ghostvirus]

i know y'all miss me.. but i cant stand this offseason:cmad:



i just dropped in to say

Kobe can kiss my A$$!


and the Lakers FO can SUCK IT!:cmad:

WOW. I didn't even notice you were gone.:ninja:

[DarthRekal]

WOW. I didn't even notice you were gone.:ninja:

love you too:oldrazz:

[L.A.]

Bucks Resign Mo Williams for 6yr-52 Million!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2936550

[Mister J]

Bastard was just trying to get Milwaukee to up the offer by letting the Heat court him. Well played.

That's way too much money for him and I hope he has a ****ty season, but extremely well played on the part of he and his agent.

[Mister J]

No Blake. No Williams. Not even Chucky Atkins. :( :down

If they go after Francis, I'm calling for someone's job.
...It won't mean anything, but I'll do it. :cmad:

[L.A.]

Wow Paxson makes the move of the summer!!! Signs Joe Smith 2yrs-10 Million!!!:eek: :up:

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/cs-070713bulls,1,2115841.story?coll=cs-bulls-headlines

[Ghostvirus]

Wow Paxson makes the move of the summer!!! Signs Joe Smith 2yrs-10 Million!!!:eek: :up:

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/cs-070713bulls,1,2115841.story?coll=cs-bulls-headlines

Please tell me you are joking. He only averaged 8 pts. last season, & 12 overall career wise. Not to mention he is at the end of his career.:whatever:

Edit: Oh yeah. F**K you paxson!
DarthRekal: & F**K you Buss, & Kobe.

[Mister J]

Beat Her Down Ron-Ron and Haymaker Jackson Suspended 7 Games (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2936623)

This offseason sucks.

[Fran]

I just remembered the pool isn't done :o

[L.A.]

I just remembered the pool isn't done :o
But I won the pool already! Just officially annouced me as the winner!!!:cool:

[Fran]

Um, no.

[Ghostvirus]

The pool has been tainted, because Fran is mathmatically challenged.

[Fran]

Are you still in your pissy mood?

[Mister J]

The pool has been tainted, because Fran is mathmatically challenged.

Are you still in your pissy mood?
God, there's a great opportunity to make a 'pissed in the pool' reference. Unfortunately, I'm feeling rather lazy right now.:trans:

[Ghostvirus]

Are you still in your pissy mood?

No, but you still can't take a joke.:oldrazz:

[L.A.]

The pool has been tainted, because Fran is mathmatically challenged.
Exactly! I should have been annouced the winner months ago!!!:cmad: :cmad: :cmad:

[Ghostvirus]

Exactly! I should have been annouced the winner months ago!!!:cmad: :cmad: :cmad:

At the very least comitted for being dillusional.:o

[Fran]

I am computer challenged. They break too easily on me.

Change your pad soon, M_C, I'm working on the final standings right now.

[Ghostvirus]

I am computer challenged. They break too easily on me.

Change your pad soon, M_C, I'm working on the final standings right now.

Change my what?

Edit: Nevermind I get it. Hardy..Harrrr.:dry:

[Fran]

:heart:

[L.A.]

I have decalred myself the winner!!!:cool:

[Ghostvirus]

I have decalred myself the winner!!!:cool:

You may be able to do that in the "special classes" you take, but no here bub!:cmad:

PATENT PENDING - What do you think of the Joe Smith thing. Good, bad, ugly?

[Fran]

You guys aren't gonna like it... :o

After one month and 4 days of a delay, thanks to the lovely people at Hewlett-Packard, I present to you...
THE 2007 NBA PLAYOFF POOL! FINAL STANDINGS. SPURS WIN THE NBA FINALS, 4-0. :up:
1. farmerfran - 177 points (CLE, SA, picked SA to win in 6)
2. NOFX - 175 points (CLE, SA, picked SA to win in 6)
3. batman44 - 162 points (CLE, SA, picked SA to win in 5)
4. Mister J - 161 points (CLE, SA, picked SA to win in 6)
5. NewYorkSpider - 135 points (CLE, CLE, picked CLE to win in 6)
6. fu manchu - 131 points (CLE, CLE, picked CLE to win in 5)
7. Ben Urich - 120 points (CLE, CLE, picked CLE to win in 6)
8. DarthRekal - 108 points (CLE, CLE, picked CLE to win in 5)
9. Maximum_Carnage - 106 points (DISQUALIFIED)
10. Ghostrider87 - 48 points (DISQUALIFIED)
11. BAH HUMBBUG! - 40 points (DISQUALIFIED)
12. The Riddler - 32 points (DISQUALIFIED)

THE WINNER OF THE 2007 NBA PLAYOFF POOL...

farmerfran!

:yay::up:

:o

[Mister J]

I call shenanigans! :cmad:

[Ghostvirus]

how the F***! did I get F***ing disqualified! What in the F****!!!!!!

[Fran]

Show me the picks! I didn't see your picks at all. You kinda lost the will to participate after the Bulls loss.

[Ghostvirus]

No I didn't I gave them to you. I don't have them, because it has been almost 2 months since I gave them to you. They might be in the original thread. Check there.

[Fran]

I never got a PM for your finals picks. I can assure you of that. I wouldn't delete them just to be an ass.

[Ghostvirus]

I didn't PM them I posted them.

[Fran]

Fine, I'll quick browse through the thread.

:cmad::meow:

[L.A.]

You guys aren't gonna like it... :o

After one month and 4 days of a delay, thanks to the lovely people at Hewlett-Packard, I present to you...
THE 2007 NBA PLAYOFF POOL! FINAL STANDINGS. SPURS WIN THE NBA FINALS, 4-0. :up:
1. farmerfran - 177 points (CLE, SA, picked SA to win in 6)
2. NOFX - 175 points (CLE, SA, picked SA to win in 6)
3. batman44 - 162 points (CLE, SA, picked SA to win in 5)
4. Mister J - 161 points (CLE, SA, picked SA to win in 6)
5. NewYorkSpider - 135 points (CLE, CLE, picked CLE to win in 6)
6. fu manchu - 131 points (CLE, CLE, picked CLE to win in 5)
7. Ben Urich - 120 points (CLE, CLE, picked CLE to win in 6)
8. DarthRekal - 108 points (CLE, CLE, picked CLE to win in 5)
9. Maximum_Carnage - 106 points (DISQUALIFIED)
10. Ghostrider87 - 48 points (DISQUALIFIED)
11. BAH HUMBBUG! - 40 points (DISQUALIFIED)
12. The Riddler - 32 points (DISQUALIFIED)

THE WINNER OF THE 2007 NBA PLAYOFF POOL...

farmerfran!

:yay::up:

:o
Dude I ****ing told you to add my points from the pistons and magic series!!! There is no way in hell I picked the pistons in 6!!! It was a no Brainer sweep!!! NOW ADD THOSE POINTS SO I CAN OFFICALLY BECOME THE WINNER!!!:mad:

[Fran]

No, I didn't see it at all.

I already told you to SHOW ME THAT POST, and you couldn't come up with results.

[Ghostvirus]

Fine, I'll quick browse through the thread.

:cmad::meow:

Yeah you better put a hello kitty at the end of that!:dry::ninja:

[L.A.]

No, I didn't see it at all.

I already told you to SHOW ME THAT POST, and you couldn't come up with results.
fine...*searching*

[Fran]

The last post I see in there of yours, M_C, is the one about you giving me the pool back.

[Ghostvirus]

Fine. It has been so long anyway. I don't really care. I will just win next year.

[Fran]

Will you prove us wrong?

[L.A.]

No, I didn't see it at all.

I already told you to SHOW ME THAT POST, and you couldn't come up with results.
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=270757&page=4&highlight=basketball

I know it says Pistons in 6 but there is no way I chose that! It must have been Hype Lag!!! And if you read on later in the thread when MC was doing to the poll I said The pistons in a sweep!!! It was hype lag!!! Now add me those points!!!

[Ghostvirus]

Will you prove us wrong?

Wrong about what?

Who is us?:dry:

[Fran]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=270757&page=4&highlight=basketball

I know it says Pistons in 6 but there is no way I chose that! It must have been Hype Lag!!! And if you read on later in the thread when MC was doing to the poll I said The pistons in a sweep!!! It was hype lag!!! Now add me those points!!!

Dude.

Dude.

No.

How in the hell can you say that? "Oh, I typed Pistons in four, but Hype Lag made it Pistons in six because it hates me." :confused:

[L.A.]

Dude.

Dude.

No.
Seriously what kind of person would pick Pistons in 6 agaisnt the magic???!!!! It soooo obvious it would be sweep!!! It was ****ing Hype lag!!! Now give me my points!!!!:cmad: :cmad: :cmad:

[Fran]

How in the hell do you expect me to believe that?

[L.A.]

How in the hell do you expect me to believe that?
look at the picks I've made!!! They been pretty dead on and consitant!!! Only by a game at most! WHy in the world would I pick the Pistons in 6???!!! Makes no damn sense!! I aint ****ing Ben!!! I dont the magic dont got **** against the pistons!!! I even told you this before the finals!!! Im not making it up!!! Now add me my points!!!:cmad: :cmad: :cmad:

[Fran]

I would add them until you said,

"It was ****ing Hype Lag!!!!"

[L.A.]

I would add them until you said,

"It was ****ing Hype Lag!!!!"
well thats the only explanation that made sense at the time!!! The only other thing I can think of I got my picks mixed without another team!

[Ghostvirus]

Do you really care LA? Seriously. Just move on man.

[L.A.]

It just burns me that some idiot who cant add and doenst know **** about b-ball is going to win the 2007 NBA POOL!!! Knowing that I got my picks right but because of Hype Lag im going to lose!!! Im the rightful winner on this one!!! I've been robbed!!!:mad:

[Ghostvirus]

Robbed of what? There was no prize.

[Fran]

You win my respect.

:oldrazz:

Just messin'.

[L.A.]

Robbed of what? There was no prize.
You obviously have no competitive heart! because than you would know what Im talking about!!!

[Ghostvirus]

I kind of know what you are talking about, but there is nothing to win. Can you honestly tell me who won the 2005-2006 pool? probably not. why? Because nobody cares.

Well except you.

[Jerry!]

Joe Smith = PJ Frown Ver. 2.0.

Just a wash really. Maybe a little better.

[Ghostvirus]

Joe Smith = PJ Frown Ver. 2.0.

Just a wash really. Maybe a little better.

That's what I figured.:whatever:

It is going to be another long. Up, & down season again.:csad:

[Fran]

2-1 in pools, baby. :word:

[Ben Urich]

Mourning is coming back for one more season. :huh::up:
One more year of this:
Yt3_RZpHfeI

:yay:

[Mister J]

:cmad:

[Fran]

:dry:

[Ben Urich]

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k7hhxkh4oOs
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baXnhJQlajY

[Mister J]

A plague on your house, Urich! A plague, I say!

*shakes fist* :cmad:

[Ben Urich]

Just to show I'm not biased...
vQR8ZNOdurE
:csad:

[Ghostvirus]

Mourning is coming back for one more season. :huh::up:
One more year of this:
Yt3_RZpHfeI

:yay:

Or This...:ninja:
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[Mister J]

Christ. Mamba. :down

Why did Francis push him? I can't stand that *******.

[Ben Urich]

That's from last season, which means the Magic won the game, so it doesn't matter. :o

[Ben Urich]

Christ. Mamba. :down

Why did Francis push him? I can't stand that *******.

He might start for you next season. :dry:

[Mister J]

There's a chance Miami now turns its interest to Steve Francis, who had his contract bought out by Portland recently. Lord, help me. :csad:

[Ghostvirus]

Francis may have some issues, but he is what you need, so what is the prob.?

[Mister J]

His issues are the problem. He's a whiny, malcontent, shoot-first PG, who's never really made a team contribution in his life. I think he's a chemistry nightmare. Granted, I haven't been able to stand him since he cried after getting drafted to Vancouver. Damn baby. :down

[NewYorkSpider]

You guys aren't gonna like it... :o

After one month and 4 days of a delay, thanks to the lovely people at Hewlett-Packard, I present to you...
THE 2007 NBA PLAYOFF POOL! FINAL STANDINGS. SPURS WIN THE NBA FINALS, 4-0. :up:
1. farmerfran - 177 points (CLE, SA, picked SA to win in 6)
2. NOFX - 175 points (CLE, SA, picked SA to win in 6)
3. batman44 - 162 points (CLE, SA, picked SA to win in 5)
4. Mister J - 161 points (CLE, SA, picked SA to win in 6)
5. NewYorkSpider - 135 points (CLE, CLE, picked CLE to win in 6)
6. fu manchu - 131 points (CLE, CLE, picked CLE to win in 5)
7. Ben Urich - 120 points (CLE, CLE, picked CLE to win in 6)
8. DarthRekal - 108 points (CLE, CLE, picked CLE to win in 5)
9. Maximum_Carnage - 106 points (DISQUALIFIED)
10. Ghostrider87 - 48 points (DISQUALIFIED)
11. BAH HUMBBUG! - 40 points (DISQUALIFIED)
12. The Riddler - 32 points (DISQUALIFIED)

THE WINNER OF THE 2007 NBA PLAYOFF POOL...

farmerfran!

:yay::up:

:o

5th again.:csad: Same as the NFL pool.

[Ghostvirus]

Considering Riley, Shaq, Wade, Mourning, & Payton are on that team. He better not b**ch! He better be happy.

[Ben Urich]

Lord, help me. :csad:

The Heat just met with Matt Barnes and the Warriors just met with James Posey... so why don't they just make the trade and get it over with? :huh:

[Mister J]

I get a really bad feeling they're going to sign Francis. There really aren't a lot of options left, he should be on the cheap and going into the season with the same PG situation as last year is pretty much asking for it. :(

[Ghostvirus]

I get a really bad feeling they're going to sign Francis. There really aren't a lot of options left, he should be on the cheap and going into the season with the same PG situation as last year is pretty much asking for it. :(

I really think you should take a wait, & see approach. If Francis works out. Miami could be very deadly next year.

[Mister J]

The Heat just met with Matt Barnes and the Warriors just met with James Posey... so why don't they just make the trade and get it over with? :huh:
All the GS talk I hear is about Pietrus. If/When Posey leaves, I hope it's a S&T. The forward situation is questionable as is.

[Ben Urich]

I get a really bad feeling they're going to sign Francis. There really aren't a lot of options left, he should be on the cheap and going into the season with the same PG situation as last year is pretty much asking for it. :(

Two over-the-hill point guards with knee troubles are better than one. :up:

[Ben Urich]

All the GS talk I hear is about Pietrus. If/When Posey leaves, I hope it's a S&T. The forward situation is questionable as is.

MYBAD. I confused the two guys.
I'd rather have Barnes. :huh:

[Jerry!]

Get Posey the **** out of the Eastern Conference all together. I'm tired of seeing him give cheap shots and break player's friggin noses.

[Ben Urich]

I like his socks. :up:
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/kelly_dwyer/02/21/worst.awards/t1_posey.jpg

[L.A.]

First Team Summer League All Stars

# Aaron Brooks – G, Houston Rockets
# Al Thornton – F, Los Angeles Clippers
# Craig Smith – F, Minnesota Timberwolves
# Javaris Crittenton – G, Los Angeles Lakers
# Jose Juan Barea – G, Dallas Mavericks
# Kevin Durant – F, Seattle SuperSonics
# Kyle Lowry – G, Memphis Grizzlies
# Louis Williams – G, Philadelphia 76ers
# Marco Belinelli – G, Golden State Warriors
# Rodney Stuckey – G, Detroit Pistons
# Rudy Gay – F, Memphis Grizzlies
# Randy Foye – G, Minnesota Timberwolves
# Spencer Hawes – C, Sacramento Kings
# Von Wafer – G, Denver Nuggets

http://www.nba.com/summerleague2007/players/summer_league_allstars.html

[L.A.]

I get a really bad feeling they're going to sign Francis. There really aren't a lot of options left, he should be on the cheap and going into the season with the same PG situation as last year is pretty much asking for it. :(
Nah He's going to be a clipper and once again hang out with his Brokeback buddy Mobley!!!
http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_association/francis-mobley.jpg

[Mister J]

That "I don't know how I get can out of bed tomorrow" business after Mobley was traded was a big WTF.

[The Riddler]

First Team Summer League All Stars

# Aaron Brooks – G, Houston Rockets
# Al Thornton – F, Los Angeles Clippers
# Craig Smith – F, Minnesota Timberwolves
# Javaris Crittenton – G, Los Angeles Lakers
# Jose Juan Barea – G, Dallas Mavericks
# Kevin Durant – F, Seattle SuperSonics
# Kyle Lowry – G, Memphis Grizzlies
# Louis Williams – G, Philadelphia 76ers
# Marco Belinelli – G, Golden State Warriors
# Rodney Stuckey – G, Detroit Pistons
# Rudy Gay – F, Memphis Grizzlies
# Randy Foye – G, Minnesota Timberwolves
# Spencer Hawes – C, Sacramento Kings
# Von Wafer – G, Denver Nuggets

http://www.nba.com/summerleague2007/players/summer_league_allstars.html

aaron brooks is an absolute beast, which was very surprising since i didn't completely agree with the rockets' pick.

daryll morey is a genius. :up:

[Ben Urich]

The Heat has expressed interest in free agent point guard Steve Francis, agent Jeff Fried said. Miami's other free agent options include Brevin Knight, Jannero Pargo and Smush Parker. Miami Herald

****, J. I am sorry. :csad:

[MakeMineMarvel]

Joe Smith = PJ Frown Ver. 2.0.

Just a wash really. Maybe a little better.
Tyrus Thomas will be the starting PF by mid-season. He's added the mid-range jumper, sometimes not leaving the gym till he hits 700. He dazzled in the summer league with an inside-outside game he didn't possess last year. He'll be the most popular Bull before the end of next season. Joe Smith is just holding a spot.

[Ben Urich]

Tyrus Thomas is fantastic. :up:
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I wonder how much burn he'll get, though. He's got to compete with Wallace, Smith, and Noah for minutes. :huh::down

[LastSunrise1981]

****, J. I am sorry. :csad:

I don't know. Under the right coaching staff Francis could be a great player. He would have to accept that he might have to come off the bench with Miami.

I've always liked Francis and I believe that he has great talent, it's his ego that taints the great talent he has in my opinion. You know Pat Riley wouldn't take much of the crap Francis tries to start, so it's safe to say he would get a quick attitude adjustment under Riley.

[Ghostvirus]

Tyrus Thomas is fantastic. :up:
iF3XGYxMxL0
I wonder how much burn he'll get, though. He's got to compete with Wallace, Smith, and Noah for minutes. :huh::down

Word.:up:

Tyrus has alot of energy. I think right now is only problem is his inability to control that energy. I could see a Noah Thomas combo down the road. I mean Noah is 7 ft. He could be a center if need be.

Tyrus Thomas will be the starting PF by mid-season. He's added the mid-range jumper, sometimes not leaving the gym till he hits 700. He dazzled in the summer league with an inside-outside game he didn't possess last year. He'll be the most popular Bull before the end of next season. Joe Smith is just holding a spot.

[Mister J]

****, J. I am sorry. :csad:
I'll say the same thing I said this morning when I saw this...

Jannero Pargo and Smush Parker! What the **** is wrong with the world?! :cmad:

:csad:

[Jerry!]

Tyrus Thomas will be the starting PF by mid-season. He's added the mid-range jumper, sometimes not leaving the gym till he hits 700. He dazzled in the summer league with an inside-outside game he didn't possess last year. He'll be the most popular Bull before the end of next season. Joe Smith is just holding a spot.

Well if he has added that mid-range jumper and can hit it with some consistency then its pretty much only a matter of time until he starts. If he is that good, then I don't he needs to worry about competing for time with Noah or Smith. Hell Noah could probably play back up for both forward positions and center if need be, so he will have his time without taking any or a little away from Tyrus.

Personally if Thomas shows he is that good during pre season, I would rather have him start the season in the starting lineup, and have Smith back up.

[LastSunrise1981]

I'll say the same thing I said this morning when I saw this...

Jannero Pargo and Smush Parker! What the **** is wrong with the world?! :cmad:

:csad:

What's wrong with Smush? Sure, he may be a bit on the inconsistent side. But give him some quality playing time he can be good. He can shoot, is very quick, and plays some pretty good defense. I feel he never got the time he deserved simply because Kobe couldn't put his ego aside.

[Mister J]

Parker strikes me as an ass who believes he's better than he actually is. He's had his moments, but he's also looked lost far too often. He imploded in the '06 playoffs against the Suns and wasn't worth anything them in '07. His sniping back and forth with Phil didn't do him any good either. Playing in the backcourt with the Viper will cramp your game a bit, but this guy seems to be an average talent at best. I really couldn't put him in the top half of PGs in the league.

[nolan's roll'n]

Have the Lakers not traded Kobe yet? WTF are they waiting for?!

[Ghostvirus]

Well if he has added that mid-range jumper and can hit it with some consistency then its pretty much only a matter of time until he starts. If he is that good, then I don't he needs to worry about competing for time with Noah or Smith. Hell Noah could probably play back up for both forward positions and center if need be, so he will have his time without taking any or a little away from Tyrus.

Personally if Thomas shows he is that good during pre season, I would rather have him start the season in the starting lineup, and have Smith back up.

I think Skiles should start Tyrus, & Noah in the beginning, & let Smith, & Wallace coach those two. Noah could play Center, & Tyrus PF. If they develope the way Tyrus seems to, & if Noah's skills equal is pick posistion. Noah, & Tyru could be a potent middle in a few years.

But Wallace, & Smith need to take on the teacher role. Smith I think would be cool with that. Wallace I am no sure he would be down with being the second guy.

[L.A.]

Report: Chinese team says Bucks not best for Yi
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2939260

[Jerry!]

I think Skiles should start Tyrus, & Noah in the beginning, & let Smith, & Wallace coach those two. Noah could play Center, & Tyrus PF. If they develope the way Tyrus seems to, & if Noah's skills equal is pick posistion. Noah, & Tyru could be a potent middle in a few years.

But Wallace, & Smith need to take on the teacher role. Smith I think would be cool with that. Wallace I am no sure he would be down with being the second guy.

I have to disagree with starting Noah. I just don't know what to expect from him, and neither does anyone else really. From the reports, Tyrus has really improved from last year and if you remember during the last season he had to earn his playing time over the entire year. He still makes mistakes and turnovers, just watch some of the Detroit series for that, but he has made a lot of strides and earned his playing time. Noah will have to do the same, can't just hand him the starter's role. Right now we can't judge him because we really have nothing to judge him on. Wallace can still help Noah out, he doesn't have to be back up to do that. By mid-season we should know more.

[nolan's roll'n]

When is KG going to be traded?! What are the T-Wolves waiting for?!

[Jerry!]

Last I heard he wanted to stay with the T' Wolves.

[nolan's roll'n]

Last I heard he wanted to stay with the T' Wolves.
Oh really?

[nolan's roll'n]

Anyone know when Kobe will be traded?

[Ben Urich]

Anyone know when Kobe will be traded?

Never (http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=240648).

[NewYorkSpider]

So Yi isn't going to play for the Bucks?

[Trainwreck2100]

The Bucks should just say FU china and hold onto his rights till the end of time

[Mister J]

Report: Chinese team says Bucks not best for Yi
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2939260
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/731/loluf8.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[L.A.]

Dont know why Bucks drafted him in the first place! Could have easily swap picks for Jeff Green.

[The Riddler]

Dont know why Bucks drafted him in the first place! Could have easily swap picks for Jeff Green.

well they're the bucks.

'nuff said.

[Ben Urich]

The Bucks should just say FU china and hold onto his rights till the end of time

They can't. If he doesn't sign with them or with any other professional team, NBA or otherwise, this season, he can enter next year's draft as a free-agent. The Bucks would get NO compensation.

[Ben Urich]

Carnage, do you need a new t-shirt? :huh:
http://bullsstore.seenon.com/img/product/cats/00022355-833195.jpg
http://bullsstore.seenon.com/detail.php?p=22355&SESSID=7f95bf4a5231fac38542541814b56236

:word:

[Ghostvirus]

Nice! That is definetely on my to buy list. Thanks

[L.A.]

Steve Francis goes back to Houston!!!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2942354

[The Riddler]

the rockets were already the most improved team in the nba before the francis deal.

they are now ready to take on the top 3 of the spurs/suns/mavs.

[L.A.]

Thats all moot if they dont get a PF that can slow down the likes of Duncan, Stoudamire, and Nowtiki.

[The Riddler]

Thats all moot if they dont get a PF that can slow down the likes of Duncan, Stoudamire, and Nowtiki.

scola, anyone?

he won't be able to stop them obviously, but he's a very good european player; many say the best.

do you know how many weapons the rockets have now?

yao ming, tracy mcgrady was enough to push utah to a game 7.

add bonzi wells, mike james, luis socla to fill the pf spot over...juwan howard, and now steve francis.

they have scoring all over the place and depth, and cut loose their weak spots.

[Ghostvirus]

the rockets were already the most improved team in the nba before the francis deal.

they are now ready to take on the top 3 of the spurs/suns/mavs.

Didn't you say that Last season.:cwink:

[The Riddler]

Didn't you say that Last season.:cwink:

yeah well i didn't expect the rockets' bench to miss the plane to utah. :cmad:

now i don't need to worry about that with so many legit scoring options.

espn ranked the rockets as the most improved team before the francis signing.

[L.A.]

scola, anyone?

he won't be able to stop them obviously, but he's a very good european player; many say the best.

do you know how many weapons the rockets have now?

yao ming, tracy mcgrady was enough to push utah to a game 7.

add bonzi wells, mike james, luis socla to fill the pf spot over...juwan howard, and now steve francis.

they have scoring all over the place and depth, and cut loose their weak spots.
Offensively there loaded but defense still win championships! They need to do one more trade to get a legit PF.

[DarthRekal]

Didn't you say that Last season.:cwink:

still not buying tmac stock :oldrazz:

[The Riddler]

Offensively there loaded but defense still win championships! They need to do one more trade to get a legit PF.

luis scola is a legit pf...albeit a european one.

they can always trade alston/head for haslem.

but i'd rather they keep alston.

[L.A.]

luis scola is a legit pf...albeit a european one.
I have yet to seen a legit PF from Euro!!! You might say Dirk but that dude cant defend and aint got no heart!

[Ghostvirus]

still not buying tmac stock :oldrazz:

I am just not buying it. I think his stock is cursed. There is not logical reason why Houston couldn't have beaten Utah. None.

[The Riddler]

I have yet to seen a legit PF from Euro!!! You might say Dirk but that dude cant defend and aint got no heart!

he was on the same team as ginobili and oberto.

they have heart? :huh:

also he was the second best player on that team behind manu.

[The Riddler]

I am just not buying it. I think his stock is cursed. There is not logical reason why Houston couldn't have beaten Utah. None.

stacy mclady showed up in the 4th quarter of game 7. :cmad: