Who should be the leader of the Decepticons in TF2?

[Chris B]

Its probably a given that Megatron will will back in the sequel, but he'll probably be out of commission for much of the film. So who do you want to see as the new leader of the Decepticons in TF2. I would choose Shockwave. From a story perspective, I think that it makes sense for him to believe that it is only logical, due to Starscream's failure in obtaining the Allspark, for him to lead the Decepticons.

[srnrew]

http://www.seibertron.com/comics/universe/original/ratbat.jpg

Ratbat just like in the comics, lol

[Spidey]

I'm thinking Starscream will wind up inadvertently drawing Unicron to Earth, and either he'll be the next primary antagonist, or he'll find the remains of Megatron and turn him into Galvatron, and HE'LL be the next primary antagonist. One or the other.

[Lando81]

megatron'll return somehow.

[Super Kal]

http://www.botchthecrab.com/archive/decepticon/1986/galvatron.gif

[Spidey]

^ S'what I'm thinkin'.

[CaptainClown]

Megatron, you could do something like ohh North Korea sent a sub to fetch the remains of transformers since they didn't know what was going on and then add some crazy dialogue that says oh it reactivated by the fact its a nuclear sub. Something stupid and bam you got the deceptions back. Or have Soundwave be in charge of the new decepticons until megatron comes back. Its easy

[The Shredder]

http://www.botchthecrab.com/archive/decepticon/1986/galvatron.gif
Megs getting an upgrade sounds about right.

[Avangarde]

Shockwave is a must, boo to Galvatron, maybe in the third movie but dont bring him in so freakin early. Galvatron in the second movie would be the most ridiculous idea ever. We only just got Megatron and you already want Galvatron, the hell people?

[The_Guyver]

Movie 1: Megatron.
Movie 2: Galvatron.
Movie 3: Unicron.
^(Not as leader of the decepticons, but the antagonist)

[mMark]

should never be Starscream, that will make the whole thing a big joke.

[psylockolussus]

Starscream baby!

He was better than Megatron in the movie

[tamron]

Starscream should lead, but have dissention and betrayal within the ranks until Megs returns and firmly retakes command.

[Starscreamer]

Let Starscream rule for a change! at least until Megatron returns. No way should or would he take a back seat to Shockwave

[Golgo-13]

Shockwave is a must, boo to Galvatron, maybe in the third movie but dont bring him in so freakin early. Galvatron in the second movie would be the most ridiculous idea ever. We only just got Megatron and you already want Galvatron, the hell people?

Agreed. We only got a mere taste of Megs in the last 20 minutes of the movie, and ppl want to get rid of him already..?

And everyone saying that Megs will be absent from most of film 2, and that another Decepticon will lead is a complete rehash of film 1. Megs needs to be resurrected within the first 10 minutes of movie 2 imo.

I like the idea of maybe China or Russia tampering with the remains, in order to do some reverse engineering of their own, and mistakenly waking him up.

[Arcturus]

I'd like to see Shockwave come to earth with the intention of reviving Megatron, and in Megatrons absence he could be the leader with Starscream griping about it.

[Rezzo]

Megatron should return as Galvatron

[Ravsuh]

I'm thinkin Starscream went back to the Decepticon's base to get reinforcements and Shockwave will be the new leader to retrieve Megatron and revive him. I mean Shockwave was in the video game so they have designs for him.

[TNC9852002]

Starscream would never revive Megatron.....

would he??

-TNC

[CaptainClown]

Have Soundwave lead the decepticons and then starscream and shockwave try and throw a coup, so basically a civil war between the decepticons. The autobots are trying to stop both Soundwave from reviving megatron, then megatron is revived and finish your plot.

[FVD]

Megatron should be revived to lead. I'd like to see some kinda dissention in the ranks. Bring in Shockwave and Soundwave above all.

[Mal'Akai]

I'm up for Megatron being rebuilt into Galvatron.

[Mal'Akai]

I'm thinkin Starscream went back to the Decepticon's base to get reinforcements and Shockwave will be the new leader to retrieve Megatron and revive him. I mean Shockwave was in the video game so they have designs for him.
What did Shockwave look likw in the game?

[Grievous]

http://www.botchthecrab.com/archive/decepticon/1986/galvatron.gif
yes:up:

[Golgo-13]

No Galvatron, yet. we barely got Megatron.

[Arcturus]

No Galvatron, yet. we barely got Megatron.

Exactly, if and IF Megatron does get revived, I want him to keep his name as Megatron. The only difference this time around should be getting an earth alt.mode. I like Galvatron, but I don't think he has a place in this continuity. Like I said, I hope Shockwave shows up, as a temporary leader with the intentions of bring Megatron back, and Starscream opposes this, they can even duke it out.

[CaptainClown]

You could have it that Megatron was so badly damaged that he is forced to take on a earth alt mode. Making him severely less powerful then before, encouraging starscream and shock wave to lead a coup.

[Golgo-13]

You could have it that Megatron was so badly damaged that he is forced to take on a earth alt mode. Making him severely less powerful then before, encouraging starscream and shock wave to lead a coup.

Makes sense.

Imo, Megs looked more Galvatron'-ish than he did Megatron-ish in TF1.

[Spidey]

Imo, Megs looked more Galvatron'-ish than he did Megatron-ish in TF1.

I felt that way, too.

[CaptainClown]

Megatron reminded me of Junkman from Megaman 7

[Golgo-13]

Never really been a Shockwave fan myself, although i agree that it would be cool to see him in the sequel. So i think it's safe to assume that, just like in the cartoon, Shockwave in the one TF that should keep his Cybertronian mode indefinately.....?

[Avangarde]

Never really been a Shockwave fan myself, although i agree that it would be cool to see him in the sequel. So i think it's safe to assume that, just like in the cartoon, Shockwave in the one TF that should keep his Cybertronian mode indefinately.....?

I just hope they keep a lot of Shockwave's characteristics and looks intact if they do choose to have him in TF2. He needs to have atleast some purple in his colour scheme, a single eye/viewer, and one of his hands replaced with a weapon.

[CaptainClown]

When it comes to physical looks they might keep it, as for personality I have yet to see a Decepticon personality minus frenzy or whatever the boombox was called.

[Spidey]

When it comes to physical looks they might keep it, as for personality I have yet to see a Decepticon personality minus frenzy or whatever the boombox was called.

I don't know, I'd say we saw a little teensy-weensy bit of personality squeezed out of Barricade. He's obviously got a sadistic intimidation fetish.

[Avangarde]

I'm sure the problem with lack of character for Decepticons will be fixed for the next movie, its just a matter of how much.

[Golgo-13]

What do you guys think of alternator Shockwave? I too still want him to be purple but i still think he should be some vicious Cybertronian canon/weapon.


http://www.16bit.com/toypics/tfalt/shockblast/main-full.jpghttp://www.16bit.com/toypics/tfalt/shockblast/carangle-full.jpg

[CaptainClown]

Would be cool if he was a unique vehicle rather then another car. Cool model though

[Closerframe]

Starscream returns to Cybertron and recruits more Decepticons and brings them back to Earth to destroy the Autobots. More Autobots arrive after hearing Optimus's transmission.( At the end of Transformers) Then when Starscream thinks he has been defeated Megatron comes in. And Starscream basically ****s on himself...

[CaptainClown]

why would Starscream come back to earth?

[Closerframe]

Starscream has a big ego he'll believe that Megatron failed to destroy the Autobots. In the cartoon Starscream always believed the only way to destory the Autobots is Planning and Speed, while Megatron believed in mindless destrution. Michael Bay will find a way for Starscream to return...

[CaptainClown]

Well now that you enlightened me about why Starscream would come back. I can see him going to cybertron claiming the Autobots massacred the rest of the decpticons and he takes on being the new leader and wants to lead an assault back. Meanwhile on earth Soundwave and whatever left decepticons that are still around are recovering Megatron and reviving him.

[Chris B]

What do you guys think of alternator Shockwave? I too still want him to be purple but i still think he should be some vicious Cybertronian canon/weapon.

I would say an alien tank.

One interesting idea that others have proposed would be to have Shockwave turn into an alien jet that resembles a gun. Imagine his original gun mode with wings.

[Kebab gud]

Soundwave or Shockwave.. but with Starscream "acting" like the boss.. but all the desepticons looking at 'Wave as boss

[Ace 66]

IMO a unit of Decepticons should bring back Megs but Starscream should also have a few that follow him. 3 WAY DANCE BABY!!!

[Remy LeBeau X3]

I think that it would either be Megatron or Galvatron in TF2. But I think that the story behind Megatron becoming Galvatron might be a bit much, because they'd have to introduce Unicron, which I think is okay but I think that shouldn't give too much away about him. Most likely to keep the story simple and a little more realistic, if Megatron were to turn into Galvatron then he would have to undergo some type of power changing mechanism that would also be weird because he changed his name. Wouldn't make sense unless they follow his true storyline which may also be a bit weird/unrealistic. Therefore Galvatron may be a whole new character altogether, leading the Decepticons against the Autobots because they "killed" Megatron. I've thought of a story where Galvatron helped Optimus and Megatron rule Cybertron, but he left before the planet's civil war on a mission (perhaps to seek Unicron and try to destroy him). Galvatron comes back and finds out his home is destroyed slowly being rebuilt and that the known survivors are onboard the Ark (Autobots) and the Nemesis (Decepticons) correct me if I have that wrong. They are searching for their allies. Galvatron comes into contact with the Nemesis and finds the Decepticons on Earth who are infromed that Megatron was "betrayed" by Optimus. Galvatron then leads the Decepticons. Something along those lines would fit nicely.

[Starscreamer]

I think that it would either be Megatron or Galvatron in TF2. But I think that the story behind Megatron becoming Galvatron might be a bit much, because they'd have to introduce Unicron, which I think is okay but I think that shouldn't give too much away about him. Most likely to keep the story simple and a little more realistic, if Megatron were to turn into Galvatron then he would have to undergo some type of power changing mechanism that would also be weird because he changed his name. Wouldn't make sense unless they follow his true storyline which may also be a bit weird/unrealistic. Therefore Galvatron may be a whole new character altogether, leading the Decepticons against the Autobots because they "killed" Megatron. I've thought of a story where Galvatron helped Optimus and Megatron rule Cybertron, but he left before the planet's civil war on a mission (perhaps to seek Unicron and try to destroy him). Galvatron comes back and finds out his home is destroyed slowly being rebuilt and that the known survivors are onboard the Ark (Autobots) and the Nemesis (Decepticons) correct me if I have that wrong. They are searching for their allies. Galvatron comes into contact with the Nemesis and finds the Decepticons on Earth who are infromed that Megatron was "betrayed" by Optimus. Galvatron then leads the Decepticons. Something along those lines would fit nicely.


I think the "Allspark" being shoved into him will upgrade Megs into Galvatron nothing to do with Unicron. If there is a God Starscream will claim leadership for himself in an underhanded way at least once

[Grievous]

why would Starscream come back to earth?
good point,the allspark is gone.

[Spidey]

good point,the allspark is gone.

That's true, but he was there when Sam plunged the allspark into Megatron's chest, so he saw what happened and maybe he'll come back for Megatron's remains in an effort to salvage the allspark. And I'm sure he'll draw Unicron to Earth in one way or another.

[CaptainClown]

I really hope they don't put Unicron in for a longg time.

[Spidey]

I really hope they don't put Unicron in for a longg time.

Me either, but I think it'll happen.

[Remy LeBeau X3]

I think the "Allspark" being shoved into him will upgrade Megs into Galvatron nothing to do with Unicron. If there is a God Starscream will claim leadership for himself in an underhanded way at least once

Good point, I hadn't thought about it like that before. Well I find that acceptable, although the only problem in relation to realism about Megatron turning into Galvatron, is that why would he change his name? I know that he is simply getting an upgrade and all, but I wouldn't change my name if I suped up and became a beast. I mean I could still see it happening easily though. Good idea.

[Avangarde]

What do you guys think of alternator Shockwave? I too still want him to be purple but i still think he should be some vicious Cybertronian canon/weapon.


http://www.16bit.com/toypics/tfalt/shockblast/main-full.jpghttp://www.16bit.com/toypics/tfalt/shockblast/carangle-full.jpg

Hehe its funny when I bought this one, at first I bought it just because it was Shockwave (or Shockblast as it was labled due to naming rights) but I hated the fact that he was a car. In the end it grew on me only because of his robot mode but I cant help but remember that I also own Jazz as well that happens to be the same model Mazda :csad:

[rdh007]

This is how I'd like to see it:
Movie opens with Starscream leading.
Megatron gets revived by some MacGuffin or other.
Megatron returns to take his rightful place.
Starscream hails Megatron publically.
Starscream spends rest of movie trying to take power underhandedly.

[Golgo-13]

I know some want Starscream to have his time in the spotlight, but prehaps we could accomadate both those that want Megatron in the leader role (like myself) and those that want Starscream as Decepticon leader by having two subplots going on at the same time. Prehaps Starscream could be trying to insert rulership over what's left of Cybertron, or the other Decepticons that might be on the Nemesis ship (for those that haven't read the prequel novel- it's the ship the Decepticons came to our solar system in)..meanwhile Megs is on earth-alive. With Barricade and scorponok.......

Remember Starscream will surely tell the other Decepticons that Megatron is dead, and maybe have him and Shockwave go at it for control.

I think TF2 can please both the Megatron fans plus the SS fans.


And yeah, plz NO GALVATRON! He wasn't even originally intended to be the same character according to Hasbro. That was something that the TF 86' movie came up with because they couldn't kill off Megatron and replace him, like they did Prime, because Megatron is indestrucatble.

Bad, bad idea!

[blind_fury]

Starscream is the Decepticon leader in name only. He gets all the glory while Shockwave handles all the tactical decisions. They both control Decepticon forces on both Cybertron and Earth using the space bridge.

Starscream is basically a stand-in leader for Megatron. He thinks it's for good while Shockwave and Soundwave desperately search for Megatrons remains in secret because they know Starscream is a maniacal fool unworthy of the position.

[VENOMisHERE]

Ah Ah Megatron Ya Think....always Hail Megatron.....

[cookiva]

Starscream should lead, but have dissention and betrayal within the ranks until Megs returns and firmly retakes command.

Here here. Exactly what should happen.

[Destructicus]

I think that the begining should show a few excavation crews in the sea where they dropped megs off in. The crews find megs and then we see them put him back together and throughout the film we see this crew try to recreate him into a new killing machine and try to inadvertantly control him. In the middle of the film they sic megs against the autobots and decepticons(Decepticons lead by Starscream). Megatron then breaks control and takes back the role of leader while killing the humans who gave him life. At the end of the film Soundwave shows up with an armada of Decepticons and pledges loyalty to Megatron. The movie ends with Optimus saying something about lighting our darkest hour and the movie ends.

[Electrofarce]

I have 3 possible leader choices for TF2:

1. Galvatron
2. Starscream
3. Shockwave

[Jick09]

I think they just shouldn't have a leader. their objective in the movie could be to found Megatron and reconstruct his body.

[CaptainClown]

they still would need a leader to plan that

[Rocker22]

Its most likely gonna be Starscream.

[CaptainClown]

I think its going to be Soundwave and starscream would be *****ing the whole time but they didnt have any real dialogue between the transformers to give them character so oh well

[Electrofarce]

I think its going to be Soundwave and starscream would be *****ing the whole time but they didnt have any real dialogue between the transformers to give them character so oh well

I doubt Soundwave will be the leader. The Decepticons need a large, powerful leader like Megatron, and from the G1 series Soundwave is only a tape deck making him at the most, 8 inches tall. The largest version of Soundwave is a Balkan MK6 Communications Vehicle, that would make him about 24 Feet Tall, still being dwarfed by the Decepticons.

[CaptainClown]

A leader for the decepticons doesn't have to be powerful just someone who is smart. Soundwave unlike his comrades think and might know weaknesses to the decepticons making him very fearsome. Soundwave is usually depicted as Megatrons 2nd in command, so Soundwave could lead a search party to recover Megatrons body. Starscream as you said would think Soundwave isn't powerful and he would try and overthrow Soundwave. Soundwave just has loyalties towards Megatron.

[Electrofarce]

A leader for the decepticons doesn't have to be powerful just someone who is smart. Soundwave unlike his comrades think and might know weaknesses to the decepticons making him very fearsome. Soundwave is usually depicted as Megatrons 2nd in command, so Soundwave could lead a search party to recover Megatrons body. Starscream as you said would think Soundwave isn't powerful and he would try and overthrow Soundwave. Soundwave just has loyalties towards Megatron.

Good point. Soundwave does have the potential to lead the Decepticons. Mind over matter.

[toddly6666]

I never liked Shockwave and Galvatron. Just stick with Megatron or give it to Starscream...

[shigsy2003]

Megatron....